this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh with the headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. fifa's president hits back at western critics of qatar's human rights record, accusing them of hypocrisy. i think for what we europeans have been doing in the last 3,000 years around the world, we should be apologising for the next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons. the final details of a deal to help the poorest countries worst affected by climate change are being thrashed out at un climate talks in egypt. it looks like the talks will go on

late into the night here in sharm el—sheikh. iwill late into the night here in sharm el—sheikh. i will have the latest news. rishi sunak offers ukraine an extra 60 million dollars�* worth of military aid to help counter aerial attacks in his first visit to kyiv since taking office. hello and welcome to bbc news. 0n the eve of the world cup kick—off in qatar, the focus has been more on politics than sport. fifa president gianni infantino accused western countries of hypocrisy for criticising the human rights record of the host country and made a passionate defence of qatar and the tournament. 0ur sports editor, dan roan, reports from doha. despite everything, qatar is determined to put on a show —

a celebration to mark the opening of the fan park in doha tonight on the eve of the world cup. but fifa has come under fire for bringing the event here amid human rights concerns, and today the game's most powerful figure turned on his critics in an extraordinary speech. today i feel gay. today i feel disabled. today i feel a migrant worker. because i know what it means to be discriminated. but that was just the start. infantino then appeared to liken his own experience as a redheaded child of immigrants in switzerland to the plight of gay people in the middle east. as a foreigner in a foreign country, as a child at school, i was bullied because i had red hair. qatar has been under mounting

scrutiny, especially in europe over its treatment of migrant workers and the lgbt community, and infantino then turned on the critics. i think for what we europeans have been doing in the last 3,000 years around the world, we should be apologising for the next 3,000 years before starting to give moral lessons. it's just hypocrisy. isn't it hypocritical on the one had to say that fifa stands for equality and non—discrimination, while at the same time supporting an event in a country which has discriminatory laws? the only weapon that we have is this, is the ball, and we have to try with this to engage. infantino praised qatar for recent labour reforms and said europe was in no position to criticise on migrant rights, but his comments have been condemned. ifound itjaw—dropping to listen to. it really felt like it was a way to try and dismiss very legitimate human rights criticisms, to try and treat them as culture war

issues rather than universal values that fifa has committed to uphold. as for fifa's late u—turn with beer banned at world cup stadia, infantino was no less defiant. i think, personally, if for three hours a day you cannot drink a beer, you will survive. gianni infantino intended just then to hit back against this tournament's critics amid a barrage of negative headlines in the build—up. but after that remarkable hour and a half—long press conference on the eve of this tournament, once again the focus is away from the football. 0rganisers hope tonight's festivities will kick—start the excitement, but right now this world cup seems more divisive than ever. lets talk now to mihir bose, sports journalist and author.

good to have you with us. what do you make of those comments from gianni infantino?— gianni infantino? extraordinary. i don't know— gianni infantino? extraordinary. i don't know who _ gianni infantino? extraordinary. i don't know who wrote _ gianni infantino? extraordinary. i don't know who wrote them, - gianni infantino? extraordinary. i don't know who wrote them, and| gianni infantino? extraordinary. i i don't know who wrote them, and if gianni infantino? extraordinary. i - don't know who wrote them, and if it was a scriptwriter he or she should be shot. i have covered several fifa world cups going back more than 30 years and knew many of the precedents. i cannot believe anybody else making a speech like this. actually what he has done is trivialise the whole issue and has insulted a lot of emigrants, he has spoken about the fact that he had red hair and was bullied, he could have changed the colour of his hair! people can change the colour of their skin, people can change the colour of theirskin, do people can change the colour of their skin, do they not —— does he not know that? for him to equate

himself with the migrants who had been to qatar is really quite shocking, then to talk about how all this doesn't matter, this is part of peter's problem, here is a man who went to bali on tuesday to lecture at the g20 world leaders on how football can bring peace in ukraine. this is a man who i think has forgotten what the world cup is. fifa is not a mini—state, he is not the president of the country, he is the president of the country, he is the president of the country, he is the president of the sports body holding a tournament, a wonderful tournament, a tournament that could be magical to the activities of the people on the field of play, but he is just an administrator and i think he has forgotten that. you isjust an administrator and i think he has forgotten that.— isjust an administrator and i think he has forgotten that. you have said toda that he has forgotten that. you have said today that you _ he has forgotten that. you have said today that you hate _ he has forgotten that. you have said today that you hate the _ he has forgotten that. you have said today that you hate the idea - he has forgotten that. you have said today that you hate the idea of - he has forgotten that. you have said today that you hate the idea of the l today that you hate the idea of the world cup taking place in qatar, but you will still watch. do you still feel the same after listening to him

tonight? i feel the same after listening to him toniaht? , ., . tonight? i will still watch the football because _ tonight? i will still watch the football because it _ tonight? i will still watch the football because it could - tonight? i will still watch the football because it could be l football because it could be magical. i used to play football, not very well. watching great players and watching my favourite team, i can relive those dreams, provided of course my teams come up to expectations, often they make me feel sad and miserable, but if they do it will be wonderful! sport is one thing that can bind people together. you do not have to know a word of spanish to know that leonel messi is a fantastic footballer. people who don't know english don't have to note the language to look at how wonderful a striker harry kane is. that is how football can bridge people. the people who run football jese that had exploited to try to create a patient —— position for themselves what they don't deserve, and which they have no authority to exercise. ., ~ , ., ,

and which they have no authority to exercise. ., ~' , ., , . and which they have no authority to exercise. ., ~ , ., , . ., exercise. thank you very much for our exercise. thank you very much for your comments. _ thank you very much for your comments. representatives from nearly 200 countries are reported to be close to agreeing a landmark deal which would see wealthy nations compensate developing states for the impact of disasters caused by climate change. so—called �*loss and damage funding' has been a sticking point during the two weeks of talks at the cop—27 climate summit in egypt. negotiations were extended by a day in the hope of making a breakthrough, with delegates being urged to "rise to the occasion". 0ur climate editor, justin rowlatt, is in sharm el—sheikh and sent this report. it has been a day of bargaining and brinkmanship here in egypt. the european union said it would walk away from the talks if the final deal doesn't have ambitious targets for cutting emissions. we want a good decision. but it's better to have no decision than a bad decision. we still believe a good

decision is within reach, but all partners will have to work very hard to make that possible. one of the key disputes has been over who should pay for the loss and damage climate change is already wreaking in vulnerable countries, like the terrible floods in pakistan this summer. developed countries have conceded there should be some kind of dedicated fund, but who should pay into it and who should get the cash has been hotly disputed. then, as workmen began to dismantle the now—empty pavilions, we got news of a breakthrough on loss and damage. i am pleased and relieved because this is for the first time after 30 years that we bring into an institution what we've been calling for, and i think this is a milestone and particularly symbolic because it's happening in africa. the hope was it would break the logjam in negotiations here. but as the sun set over the conference centre tonight,

that remained elusive. developed countries and developing nations need to come to some kind of agreement on how we're going to up ambition to make sure we cut our greenhouse gas emissions to be in line with the 1.5 degree temperature goal. all eyes are now on room 2. that is where the final negotiations are taking place. justin rowlatt, bbc news, sharm el sheikh, egypt. and justin joins us now. this i was in glasgow last year for cop26, this is very reminiscent of that, talks going into extra time, lots of talks about climate justice, and those countries who have suffered disproportionately because of climate change. where are we now? i wish i could give you a clear answer on that. we thought that the deal that seems to have been done on loss and damage would break the

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done tonight. we probably won't see final done tonight. we prbbably wan�*t see final agreement done tonight. we probably won't see final agreement coming forward the final agreement coming forward until the morning. what the final agreement coming forward untilthe morning.— until the morning. what level of frustration _ until the morning. what level of frustration are _ until the morning. what level of frustration are you _ until the morning. what level of frustration are you sensing - until the morning. what level of frustration are you sensing from until the morning. what level of - frustration are you sensing from the countries like the maldives, for example, here saying the worst effects of climate change? last year, if you could have bottled the ambition that was in the room, you would have thought that something would have thought that something would have thought that something would have happened by this time, by cop27, yet here we are still trying to pin down the details of the deal. let's be clear, the understanding is that the deal has been done, so the loss and damage deal has been done and now we are talking about other stuff, what they call mitigation cutting carbon emissions. the deal has been done. if that deal holds as talks continue into the night, we are talking about an historic deal on loss and damage. the developing

nations have wanted this, notjust last year in glasgow, when they first began this talks 30 years ago. yet president macron is saying this deal is insufficient to meet the challenges. deal is insufficient to meet the challenges-_ deal is insufficient to meet the challen: of 5, ., efigfie; ’ deal is insufficient to meet the challeng of climate a �*t’ 7 deal is insufficient to meet the challeng of climate change. ’ 7 deal is insufficient to meet the challeng of climate change. the t ' cutting isn't good on cutting emissions isn't good enough, but on loss and damage, the maldives, he mentioned, are delighted by this. loss and damage wasn't even on the agenda three weeks before the stocks began, despite having been something that has been talked by developing nations for 30 years. by hook or by crook, this has been a very chaotic conference, by hook or by crook the egyptians, we are not there yet, but they look like they might have got it through. if they have, whatever

else has happened at this conference, that would be an historic thing in terms of climate action on climate justice. there are funding arrangements with might open up funding arrangements with might open up opportunities for new flows of funds and, for example from the world bank and the imf, something that hasn't happened in the past. it is a very interesting deal, if it goes through, and that is what we are waiting for, to see if it will go through here in sharm el—sheikh. thank you so much. rishi sunak has made his first visit to ukraine since becoming prime minister. he held talks with president zelenksy and pledged £50 million in defence aid. 0ur political correspondent ione wells reports. a warm reception on a snowy day in kyiv. very good to see you. a warm reception on a snowy day in kyiv. very good to see you. chatter. i've got my coat for later. in footage released by the ukrainian government and number 10,

rishi sunak can be seen laying flowers at a memorial for victims of the war. he met with emergency responders and announced a new package of air defence to help protect ukrainian civilians and infrastructure from russian air strikes. ukraine has faced months of intense russian aerial attacks. forces there say there have been 148 missile strikes on critical services, leaving 10 million people without power. the prime minister's main message was to confirm the uk's support for the country would continue. as prime minister of the united kingdom, i'm proud of how we stood with you from the very beginning. and i am here today to say that the united kingdom will continue to stand with you. we will stand with you until ukraine has won the peace and security it needs and deserves. and then we will stand with you as you rebuild your great country. thank you so much, rishi.

president zelensky thanked the prime ministerfor supporting his country and the dialogue they had. his visit comes after a difficult week for him and the chancellor, who announced a range of tax rises and public spending squeezes. the uk's foreign aid and defence budgets won't go up as planned yet until the economic situation improves. ministers blamed the war in ukraine for the dire economic situation in the uk. 0pposition parties argue political decisions played a role too. there is a clear desire to avoid public fatigue with the conflict and demonstrate the positives of supporting ukraine, an easier message to sell, perhaps, than the economic headlines they face back home. ione wells, bbc news. the headlines: fifa's president has hit back at western critics of world cup host qatar's human rights record, accusing them of hypocrisy.

the final details of a deal to help the poorest countries worst affected by climate change are being thrashed out at un climate talks in egypt. more on that story now and sophia kianni is a un advisor and founder of climate cardinals, a youth—led not for profit working to translate climate change research. tell us a bit more about what your group is doing, and what it is hoping to achieve and see come out of this latest cop, cop27 in sharm el—sheikh. of this latest cop, cop27 in sharm el-sheikh. ., . ., , , el-sheikh. youth climate activists believe for _ el-sheikh. youth climate activists believe for the _ el-sheikh. youth climate activists believe for the pushing _ el-sheikh. youth climate activists believe for the pushing of- el-sheikh. youth climate activists believe for the pushing of a - el-sheikh. youth climate activists believe for the pushing of a loss l believe for the pushing of a loss and damage fund since the beginning of cop. this language is very encouraging, and we hope that these countries do commit to a loss and damage fund. countries like the us

have an obligation to make sure we are providing adequate finance. lstallion are providing adequate finance. when i soke to a are providing adequate finance. when i spoke to a former _ are providing adequate finance. when i spoke to a former president of the maldives a couple of weeks ago about this summit, he was telling me about the work that young activists are doing in the maldives and how they have been encouraged to make their voices heard, but he felt that those voices heard, but he felt that those voices weren't fully being heard in sharm el—sheikh. voices weren't fully being heard in sharm el-sheikh._ voices weren't fully being heard in sharm el-sheikh. what is your view on that? this _ sharm el-sheikh. what is your view on that? this was _ sharm el-sheikh. what is your view on that? this was the _ sharm el-sheikh. what is your view on that? this was the first - sharm el-sheikh. what is your view on that? this was the first cop - sharm el-sheikh. what is your view on that? this was the first cop thatj on that? this was the first cop that we were ever able to have a dedicated youth space. i was able to also organise a youth dialogue between 30 young activists in the un secretary general, so i do think this is one of the first cop that young people had a dedicated space and could have their voices heard, no word near enough for what we need, but it was a big step forward. 0n the big target of stopping global

warming going above 1.5 degrees by the end of the decade, where do you think we are on that? i the end of the decade, where do you think we are on that?— think we are on that? i think that that will be _ think we are on that? i think that that will be really _ think we are on that? i think that that will be really be _ think we are on that? i think that that will be really be defined - think we are on that? i think that that will be really be defined by i that will be really be defined by how ambitious our pledges are at cop, and whether there is follow—through. we saw the countryside committed to honour billions of dollars in finance but that money has not been put on the table. while it is great to see all these commitments, the real question will come down to a matter of follow—through, and that is what determines if he will stay beneath 1.5. ,., determines if he will stay beneath 1.5. going back to young voices bein: 1.5. going back to young voices being heard. — 1.5. going back to young voices being heard, why— 1.5. going back to young voices being heard, why do _ 1.5. going back to young voices being heard, why do you - 1.5. going back to young voices being heard, why do you think| 1.5. going back to young voices - being heard, why do you think that young people are so important in tackling this problem? sometimes there seems to be a disconnect between the young activists saying we are trying to protect your future, and the people who are

making those decisions, the vested interests involved in this process? it is exactly like you said. we are all speaking from a personal position of fear and concern, in the sense that we have everything to lose. we aren't coming to these climate discussions being paid to participate, this is not ourjob. i am a full—time student. advocacy is something i do out of necessity because i'm scared about the future if we don't take climate action. we are already experiencing the impacts of climate problems three times faster than our grandparents. 0ur leaders can't even call themselves leaders can't even call themselves leaders that they don't commit to climate action, which includes phasing out of fossil fuels. great to talk to you. — phasing out of fossil fuels. great to talk to you, thank _ phasing out of fossil fuels. great to talk to you, thank you - phasing out of fossil fuels. great to talk to you, thank you so - phasing out of fossil fuels. great l to talk to you, thank you so much, and good luck with your work.

nearly 100 young lebanese men are reported to havejoined the so—called islamic state terror group in the last year, but rather than simply being drawn in by the extreme ideology, they're trying to find a way to escape the country's financial crisis. with the vast majority of lebanese people living in poverty, the terror group is using deprived areas as a recruiting ground to fuel its insurgency in iraq. 0ur middle east correspondent anna foster reports. in the back streets of tripoli, hope is in short supply, so is food, electricity and water, the very basics of life. the struggle for survival makes many people desperate, but some have taken extreme measures, joining a terror group responsible for murdering thousands. translation: i wanted to join the islamic state | because of the poverty here, then i would get close to my god and live comfortably, not worried about the cost of living.

achmed, not his real name, was only 17 when he tried to join the so—called islamic state online with hopes of going to iraq. within hours he was arrested, he said he did it because he was desperate. translation: it makes me want to kill myself. - i owe people money but i can't afford to give it back. this is one of the poorest places in lebanon. life here is hard and opportunities are scarce, and that is one reason why these young men are leaving. without money, they rely on the terror group to smuggle them out. mohammed represents several of their families. translation: here is i separated from the state. look at these poor areas, nobody cares about it and this class will be recruited to isis. a year ago, this man vanished, killed fighting for islamic state, according to this voice message, although the language is far less sophisticated than the group would normally use.

translation: he told us - he was going to see his fiancee and would be back at noon. he went out and never came back. his family don't understand why a young man preparing for his wedding would leave. they believe he could still be alive, but the army in iraq says he travelled there and attacked a military base. shortly afterwards, they killed him and five other lebanese islamic state members in an airstrike. what will happen if you find them carrying out attacks in your country? translation: if you go to fight | with them, you will face either| being arrested or killed by the iraqi armed forces. don't be the fuel for their wars. it is a stark message to a struggling country. there is little hope on the horizon, only painful memories,

and if it's youth see joining a terror organisation as their brightest hope, it is a damning indictment of what lebanon has become. malaysia's snap election appears likely to end with a hung parliament. two opposition coalitions won most votes, though each fell far short of a majority. the election commission said a coalition led by the opposition leader anwar ibrahim was leading with sixty—one seats, while the rival alliance led by the former prime minister muhedin yassin, had one seat fewer. the governing umno party was trailing further behind. the anonymous artist banksy has released video footage of his artwork in ukraine. the pieces feature people doing daily tasks and have been painted onto war—torn buildings in the cities of hostomel, horenka and borodyanka. the footage also shows a man's hand creating the art, but as is typical for a man who goes to extreme lengths to protect his id, banksy�*s face is never seen. here's a look at the art.

nasa expects humans to visit the moon for lengthy stays sometime this decade. officials say that, as part of the agency's artemis mission, habitats will be need to be created there to support

scientific operations. hello there. weather headlines in recent days have been dominated by the relentless heavy rainfall that we had seen across eastern scotland. in aboyne in aberdeenshire, we had a month and a half of rain since last wednesday, and there is more wet weather to come, but it looks likely over the next five days that the heaviest of the rain will be further south and west. the darker the blues, the heavier the rain. and you can see across the far north—east, hopefully not quite as much. there is still some wet weather to come, though, on sunday, from this frontal system. around an inch of rain before it clears through. it will clear quite quickly on a sunday morning, easing away from eastern scotland and south—east england, allowing for some sunshine to come through. a brisk westerly wind will quickly driving some sharp, squally showers, some of these heavy with hail

and some thunder. but most of the showers will be out to the west, so with the sunshine, we are likely to see temperatures about where they should be for this time of year, seven to 12 degrees. now, the showers will start to fade away through the evening, and we keep some clear skies, potentially, in the far north—east of scotland, but at the same time the next system moves in, yet more wet and windy weather on its way, accompanied by gale force gusts of winds in the strongest and heaviest of the rain. but ahead of it, under the clear skies, perhaps temperatures here low enough for a touch of light frost. some of that wet weather will gradually push its way steadily north—east on monday. a level of uncertainty as to just wear that rain is likely to gather but keep abreast of the forecast, rain is likely through northern ireland, parts of wales, south—west england, and eventually into north—west england, scattered showers following on behind, drier but cooler conditions on the far north of scotland. and that colder air potentially

sitting in scotland for a couple of days, tapping into the cold air sitting across scandinavia. that means that these weather fronts potentially could enhance the risk of some wintry showers to higher ground as they drift out of aberdeenshire into the northern isles, but on the hole on tuesday, there will be some sunny spells coming through, and again a similar kind of feel to the weather, seven to 11 degrees. the remainder of the week stays unsettled, a real autumnal flavour. there will be showers, longer spells of rain, it will be windy with it, the best of the drier weather, however, into the far north—east.

hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the political

commentatorjo phillips and nigel nelson, political editor of the sunday people and the sunday mirrror. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... shameless — the sunday express condemns the fifa president's defence of qatar hosting the world cup. sir geoff hurst tells the england team "you can do it" in the sunday mirror. the observer leads on news that labour leader sir keir starmer will replace the house of lords with an elected chamber to restore trust in politics. the sunday telegraph has conservative party chairman nadhim zahawi saying tories still want to cut taxes before the next election. senior government figures are planning to put britain on the path to frictionless trade with the european union — that's in the sunday times. and the sun on sunday reports that boy george has threatened to quit itv�*s i'm a celebrity get me out of here after an explosive rant at tv crews.

so let's begin... we are going to start with the independent, a pretty striking front page of the world cup, and the headline, qatar, 2022, and the human cost that tarnishes football's greatest prize. and all of this in the context of these extraordinary comments. it the context of these extraordinary comments. 5, , the context of these extraordinary commenta— comments. it was unbelievable to listen to him _ comments. it was unbelievable to listen to him and _ comments. it was unbelievable to listen to him and it _ comments. it was unbelievable to listen to him and it has _ comments. it was unbelievable to listen to him and it has been - comments. it was unbelievable to listen to him and it has been well| listen to him and it has been well reported throughout the day, these bizarre comments is about how he feels he is disabled, he is gay, he is a migrant, because he was discriminated against because he had ginger hairand discriminated against because he had ginger hair and freckles. it is not going to cut it, and there are many questions, still, we are 21t hours less than it actually gets under way, there are many, many questions still being asked, and i think this picture on the front at the

independent which always does such print picture headlights, qatar 2022 and the human cost that tarnishes football's greatest prize, the really sad thing is that this shouldn't be a great cause for celebration, the first world cup in a muslim country, the first arab world cup but actually 12 years since they were awarded the rights to host dead and 2a, 48—hour before they start, qatar and as there is to be a ban on alcohol. 6500 migrant workers have died since it was awarded, there are reports from human rights watch, amnesty international that have gone on for years and we know that people have been working for as little as 45p an hour to build the stadio, and by the accounts of fans that had travelled from all over the world at huge expense to stay there, they are not staged in particularly plush

circumstances or surrounding. nigel, what does his — circumstances or surrounding. nigel, what does his contribution, - circumstances or surrounding. nigel, what does his contribution, what - what does his contribution, what does that make to the why more sober discussions thatjoe has mentioned? i'm sure it makes a great contribution at all. it was such a peculiar— contribution at all. it was such a peculiar rant. the whole point here is that _ peculiar rant. the whole point here is that fifa — peculiar rant. the whole point here is that fifa decided on qatar for the world — is that fifa decided on qatar for the world cup. it is the greatest show_ the world cup. it is the greatest show on — the world cup. it is the greatest show on earth and it comes down to the question of how they made that decision _ the question of how they made that decision if— the question of how they made that decision. if you just take lgbt rights — decision. if you just take lgbt rights. obviously it is up to an individual— rights. obviously it is up to an individual country to decide its own laws and _ individual country to decide its own laws and qatar has and will imprison people _ laws and qatar has and will imprison people for— laws and qatar has and will imprison people for same—sex acts but surely it would _ people for same—sex acts but surely it would have occurred to fifa that maybe _ it would have occurred to fifa that maybe having a big international audience — maybe having a big international audience in a country like that was

perhaps— audience in a country like that was perhaps not the best bet. so it is not the _ perhaps not the best bet. so it is not the laws of qatar, the choice of qatar. _ not the laws of qatar, the choice of qatar. and — not the laws of qatar, the choice of qatar, and then he suddenly goes on, gianni _ qatar, and then he suddenly goes on, gianni infantino, this extraordinary idea that _ gianni infantino, this extraordinary idea that somehow western countries should _ idea that somehow western countries should apologise for the 3000 years of its history, and ijust can't see the point — of its history, and ijust can't see the point of— of its history, and ijust can't see the point of that. the italian players _ the point of that. the italian players aren't going to apologise for the _ players aren't going to apologise for the roman empire of the spanish ones for— for the roman empire of the spanish ones for the armada or the french ones _ ones for the armada or the french ones for— ones for the armada or the french ones for poking the eyes out of an english _ ones for poking the eyes out of an english king with an arrow, so it wasiust— english king with an arrow, so it wasi'ust a — english king with an arrow, so it wasjust a most peculiar rant english king with an arrow, so it was just a most peculiar rant where he should _ was just a most peculiar rant where he should have actually addressed theissues he should have actually addressed the issues that are bothering people _ the issues that are bothering people. it the issues that are bothering .eo ale, . ., , the issues that are bothering --eole. . 5, , the issues that are bothering --eole. . ., , ., ., people. it certainly does mean that this world cup _ people. it certainly does mean that this world cup is _ people. it certainly does mean that this world cup is starting, - people. it certainly does mean that this world cup is starting, as - people. it certainly does mean that this world cup is starting, as this l this world cup is starting, as this headline in the independent suggests, with very much the focus on the politics rather than on the game. let's move on to the observer, nigel, i will get you to start off on this one, abolish lords to restore trust in politics. the

labour leader believes the public but lack faith in the particle system has been undermined by successful —— successive tory leaders adding peerages to lackeys and donors. i leaders adding peerages to lackeys and donors. ~ 5, leaders adding peerages to lackeys and donors. ~ ., , and donors. i think that part is true although _ and donors. i think that part is true although i _ and donors. i think that part is true although i think _ and donors. i think that part is true although i think the - and donors. i think that part is. true although i think the labour leader— true although i think the labour teader or— true although i think the labour leader or to think carefully about the idea — leader or to think carefully about the idea of abolishing the lords or turning _ the idea of abolishing the lords or turning it — the idea of abolishing the lords or turning it into an elected chamber. the problem here is there has been and other— the problem here is there has been and other attempts over the last 30 years _ and other attempts over the last 30 years to _ and other attempts over the last 30 years to reform the house of lords, or even— years to reform the house of lords, or even abolish it, and every time that they— or even abolish it, and every time that they do that, you always come up that they do that, you always come up against — that they do that, you always come up against the danger of an unintended consequence, you kind of take, _ unintended consequence, you kind of take, to _ unintended consequence, you kind of take, to get — unintended consequence, you kind of take, to get rid of it, you take a bil take, to get rid of it, you take a big break— take, to get rid of it, you take a big break out of the british constitution and you don't know quite _ constitution and you don't know quite what the result will be. for instance. — quite what the result will be. for instance, one of the arguments against — instance, one of the arguments against it— instance, one of the arguments against it is the 26 bishops in the house _ against it is the 26 bishops in the house of— against it is the 26 bishops in the house of lords. it seems completely mad to _ house of lords. it seems completely mad to have clerics who are legislators as i write as they do in

a however. — legislators as i write as they do in a however, take the bishops out in the church— a however, take the bishops out in the church of england may well disestablish and the danger there is what does _ disestablish and the danger there is what does that due to the monarchy? will what does that due to the monarchy? witt people _ what does that due to the monarchy? will people start asking questions about— will people start asking questions about whether we should have monitored at all, given that the key planks— monitored at all, given that the key planks of— monitored at all, given that the key planks of the monarchy is that the kin- planks of the monarchy is that the king is— planks of the monarchy is that the king is the — planks of the monarchy is that the king is the supreme governor of the church— king is the supreme governor of the church of— king is the supreme governor of the church of england? you king is the supreme governor of the church of england?— church of england? you are looking at lots of questions _ church of england? you are looking at lots of questions that _ church of england? you are looking at lots of questions that this - church of england? you are looking at lots of questions that this might| at lots of questions that this might raise. joe, your view on this article in the observer? i’m raise. joe, your view on this article in the observer? i'm sorry, i can't article in the observer? i'm sorry, i can't help _ article in the observer? i'm sorry, i can't help nigel's _ article in the observer? i'm sorry, i can't help nigel's constitutional. i can't help nigel's constitutional expertise on the lords spiritual but i think it is worth noting that there are 784 sitting members of their house, and it is the only upper house in the world that is bigger than its lower house, and second—largest legislative chamber in the world, only behind the chinese national people's congress. it is vastly overpopulated, and i

think certainly david cameron broke the record and has since been superseded by borisjohnson, if indeed his next lot of resignation honours are anything to go by, inputting a record number of people inputting a record number of people in there. the problem is, and there was an attempt during the coalition, because it is something that the liberal democrats have always talked about reforming the house of lords, if you have an elected second chamber, you'd then get into the rather difficult position of people seeking election, and you could end “p seeking election, and you could end up with, i don't know, somebody like liz truss, for instance in the house of lords, she stood for election, she was voted the winner, and look what happened there. there is a lot to be said for people being in the house of lords who were scrutinising and doing the heavy lifting, if you like, that doesn't necessarily get donein

like, that doesn't necessarily get done in the commons, a line by line analysis of laws and proposals. and there is a huge value in having people there who know what they are talking about, whether they are scientists, academics, you know, historians or whatever it is. 50. historians or whatever it is. so, what are second _ historians or whatever it is. so, what are second election chamber provide the sorts of checks and balances you are talking about? we balances you are talking about? 2 definitely need a second chamber but the problem is if you have an elected second chamber, you wouldn't necessarily get the people who perhaps ought to be there because of their expertise and knowledge because they wouldn't necessarily stand for election, but it certainly needs overhauling in this ridiculous handing out of gongs because someone worked for a prime minister for two weeks is utterly ridiculous and it does further undermine faith in politics so i agree with keir starmer there.— politics so i agree with keir starmer there. ,, ., , , starmer there. the sunday times next, starmer there. the sunday times next. britain _ starmer there. the sunday times next, britain mulls _ starmer there. the sunday times next, britain mulls swiss - starmer there. the sunday times

next, britain mulls swiss style i starmer there. the sunday times | next, britain mulls swiss style ties with brussels. jo, the government believes eu relations of boring and could relate to frictionless trade. interesting one. it could relate to frictionless trade. interesting one.— interesting one. it might lead to frictionless _ interesting one. it might lead to frictionless trade _ interesting one. it might lead to frictionless trade but _ interesting one. it might lead to frictionless trade but it - interesting one. it might lead to frictionless trade but it won't - interesting one. it might lead to. frictionless trade but it won't lead to a friction list tory party. you've only got to mention the thawing of relations with the eu and the right wing of the conservative party are up in arms are saying, over my dead body. so rishi sunak will face the same problem of all his predecessors that any move towards better relations with europe and anything that might see us moving towards a single market is going to be hugely resisted. whether he has got, you know, whether he has got the backbone to visit that, sadly there seems to be a more cordial relationship between sue nak and emmanuel macron, the french president, and certainly there is a

calmer sense, president, and certainly there is a calmersense, i president, and certainly there is a calmer sense, i think, president, and certainly there is a calmer sense, ithink, around britain is behaving which i think our european partners and friends would welcome. but if we could go down the swiss route which would see a much greater improvement in trade, but it would also lead to more freedom of movement, you know, i mean, jeremy hunt has hinted at it. it is the elephant in the room, the question is, we know absolutely that brexit has caused an enormous and out of damage to the economy, and thatis out of damage to the economy, and that is notjust me saying it, that is the obr and the is and various other bodies saying that, and i think that what we have to do is if we are looking for grown—up, serious government, which lord knows we need, then actually we need politicians who are willing to have that conversation and say hang on a minute it is enough that we are not

trading with our nearest partners. and many people pointed out that jeremy hunt didn't use the word brexit in his hour—long autumn statement on thursday, and if as that in the harmony mentions —— as nadhim zahawi mentions on another page if they are there to cut taxes, if they are going to grow the economy, they will need to do more trade with our nearest neighbours. well, yes indeed. the idea that i can tap _ well, yes indeed. the idea that i can tap -- — well, yes indeed. the idea that i can tap —— cut taxes before the etection— can tap —— cut taxes before the election goes totally against everything thatjeremy election goes totally against everything that jeremy hunt was doing _ everything that jeremy hunt was doing in— everything that jeremy hunt was doing in the autumn statement. so, what we've _ doing in the autumn statement. so, what we've got is we've got tax rises _ what we've got is we've got tax rises now — what we've got is we've got tax rises now but we've got cuts that have _ rises now but we've got cuts that have been— rises now but we've got cuts that have been postponed until after the election _ have been postponed until after the election. where i can't see nadhim zahawi _ election. where i can't see nadhim zahawi can — election. where i can't see nadhim zahawi can say we will have tax cuts before _ zahawi can say we will have tax cuts before the _ zahawi can say we will have tax cuts before the election, if you then have _ before the election, if you then have cuts— before the election, if you then have cuts in public services coming down _ have cuts in public services coming down the _ have cuts in public services coming down the road. so, unless there is

actually— down the road. so, unless there is actually a — down the road. so, unless there is actually a huge gross, ijust cannot see this _ actually a huge gross, ijust cannot see this happening. the way that the tory chairman seems to think it will wort— tory chairman seems to think it will work as— tory chairman seems to think it will work as inflation should be down to about— work as inflation should be down to about 2% _ work as inflation should be down to about 2% by 2024, that will give the leeway _ about 2% by 2024, that will give the leeway to _ about 2% by 2024, that will give the leeway to cut taxes, but you've still got — leeway to cut taxes, but you've still got those cuts to think about, so the _ still got those cuts to think about, so the first— still got those cuts to think about, so the first thing is that jeremy hunt, — so the first thing is that jeremy hunt, assuming he is still chancellor, then, we'll have to reverse — chancellor, then, we'll have to reverse those before we could actually — reverse those before we could actually think about bringing taxes back down again. let�*s actually think about bringing taxes back down again.— actually think about bringing taxes back down again. let's move on to the paper. — back down again. let's move on to the paper. the _ back down again. let's move on to the paper, the front _ back down again. let's move on to the paper, the front page - back down again. let's move on to the paper, the front page which i back down again. let's move on to| the paper, the front page which has that story from nadhim zahawi or featuring the —— nadhim zahawi, the sunday telegraph, but we are going to look at a couple of picture stories now. there is rishi sunak making —— meeting president zelensky. nigel, talk to us about this. it zelensky. nigel, talk to us about this. 5, , zelensky. nigel, talk to us about this. ., , ., ., , this. it was one of the first thing that rishi sunak _ this. it was one of the first thing

that rishi sunak needed - this. it was one of the first thing that rishi sunak needed to - this. it was one of the first thing that rishi sunak needed to do, i this. it was one of the first thing i that rishi sunak needed to do, and it is quite _ that rishi sunak needed to do, and it is quite right, we should be showing — it is quite right, we should be showing each new prime minister, and we have _ showing each new prime minister, and we have had _ showing each new prime minister, and we have had three in three months, bear in _ we have had three in three months, bear in mind, — we have had three in three months, bear in mind, what we should actually— bear in mind, what we should actually show is we do support ukraine, — actually show is we do support ukraine, and we will continue doing so. ukraine, and we will continue doing so now. _ ukraine, and we will continue doing so. now, the prime minister came bearing _ so. now, the prime minister came bearing gifts, £50 million worth, so ukraine _ bearing gifts, £50 million worth, so ukraine will now have 125 anti—aircraft guns to knock out the missiles _ anti—aircraft guns to knock out the missiles that tried to knock out their— missiles that tried to knock out their infrastructure. there are a load _ their infrastructure. there are a load of— their infrastructure. there are a load of gizmos coming in to deal with those iranian made drones that the russians are using. so, i think that generally speaking, one says, look, _ that generally speaking, one says, look. this— that generally speaking, one says, look. this is— that generally speaking, one says, look, this is a good thing, we must show— look, this is a good thing, we must show ukraine that we really will stand _ show ukraine that we really will stand shoulder to shoulder with them, — stand shoulder to shoulder with them, and we will do it right until them, and we will do it right until the end _ them, and we will do it right until the end until they can get the russians— the end until they can get the russians off their soil. and from president lenski's _ russians off their soil. and from president lenski's perspective, l russians off their soil. and from i

president lenski's perspective, jo, clearly this is part of the pr campaign, isn't it, to show him on the ground with various leaders around the world making that trip to kyiv, demonstrating, i guess that it is not a low —— no go zone, is it? no it is not i think it is very important that you demonstrate the support, you demonstrate your willingness to go there, and this, i think, is the first opportunity that the prime minister has had to go there because he has been in egypt and bali and so he has —— is now in ukraine. soi and bali and so he has —— is now in ukraine. so i think it is also sending out a clear signal because there are mumblings and murmurings going on that there is a sort of, a sense of, there is a desire for some sort of diplomatic solution, it is extremely difficult to see how you could have that with putin still in moscow, and president zelensky has more or less ruled out any chance of talks or anything, but i think it is

a question of if we are in it, we are in it for the long haul. stand are in it for the long haul. and before we _ are in it for the long haul. and before we finish _ are in it for the long haul. and before we finish this chat, i want to get to, nigel, your paper the sunday mirror. sir geoff hurst channelling the spirit of 1966? absolutely and who better to do it than geoff hurst? what saying is that this — than geoff hurst? what saying is that this world cup is a bit more than _ that this world cup is a bit more than about— that this world cup is a bit more than about trying to when it, to make _ than about trying to when it, to make that _ than about trying to when it, to make that will come home or anything like that _ make that will come home or anything like that. 5, make that will come home or anything like that. ., ., ., , , , like that. that would obviously be ve aood like that. that would obviously be very good for _ like that. that would obviously be very good for lots _ like that. that would obviously be very good for lots of— like that. that would obviously be very good for lots of people's - very good for lots of people's perspective. very good for lots of people's perspective-— very good for lots of people's --ersective. �* ., ,., perspective. and the whole point would be, perspective. and the whole point would be. he _ perspective. and the whole point would be, he says, _ perspective. and the whole point would be, he says, that - perspective. and the whole point would be, he says, that we - perspective. and the whole point | would be, he says, that we really perspective. and the whole point. would be, he says, that we really do need _ would be, he says, that we really do need our— would be, he says, that we really do need our spirits lifted, and don't we just— need our spirits lifted, and don't we just come after the autumn statement? and concentrating on the world _ statement? and concentrating on the world cup— statement? and concentrating on the world cup and england's success is the way— world cup and england's success is the way to— world cup and england's success is the way to do it, so the idea is that— the way to do it, so the idea is that the — the way to do it, so the idea is that the players are not just out there _ that the players are not just out there to — that the players are not just out there to go and get the cup, they are there — there to go and get the cup, they are there to boost britain. gk, are there to boost britain. ok, we're out _ are there to boost britain. ok, we're out of — are there to boost britain. ok, we're out of time _ are there to boost britain. ok, we're out of time but - are there to boost britain. ok we're out of time but we will talk

again in a little under an hour. for the moment, jo and nigel, thank you very much. so, it is goodbye for now, we will be back very soon. climate scientists have warned that change needs to come from the top, from governments and companies. but science and innovation will play an important part. yeah. so this week we're going to look at some of the latest green ideas. and first off, take a deep breath. takes deep breath.

if you live in the green, it's easy to forget what life is like in the grey. the air literally can smell sweeter, and it's definitely cleaner. the world health organization says air pollution poses a major threat to health and climate, and it kills an estimated seven million people worldwide every year. now we're not all going to move back to nature. but what if we could bring nature into the cities? just outside berlin, this company is trying to freshen up our urban air. this is a bio filter which is sucking air in through the bottom and pumping it back out through this wall of moss. to illustrate that, we've got a smoke machine from the local discotheque. and if i just show you. there you go. it's going in through the bottom and out through the moss. and what happens to the air as it comes back out through the moss is where the magic happens. moss eats pollution.

it sticks to its tiny leaves. it's absorbed, digested, and then is turned into more moss. so as fans draw dirty air in, the bad stuff is left on the moss leaves, leaving cleaner air to flow back out. the idea of using moss�*s natural filtering properties came to the founder after he went for a jog. so i was in shanghai and i did a lot of exercise outdoors to get back in shape. so go for runs and after i think two or three months i started to have difficulties breathing and that's when i thought maybe i caught the flu, maybe i caught the cold, and it kept on lasting until the point i really left china, left shanghai and went went back to germany. and only after i came back, i realized, hey, there's definitely a connection to the air quality in china and my personal health.

that's when it clicked and i realized i have to do something about the air quality in cities. for the past eight years, green city solutions have been growing moss up to 15 times faster than in nature. each moss mat takes just under 12 weeks to grow. and i have to say, there's something very soothing about being in their greenhouse. do you just come in here and stroke the moss? when i'm stressed. cool thing about moss is that this plan doesn't have roots, so they can capture all nutrients through the walls, leaves or leaves surface. so you can imagine, like the normal plants, it takes the nutrients from the earth, but it's moss. it can capture everything. the second thing is, like every plant's moss can absorb c02 because it needs for photosynthesis, for the energy. but the benefit is the density of the moss is pretty high.

so we need this higher leaf surface ratio to capture as much as possible. so now we are going to take a sample. i can do it? for sure. let's tweeze some moss. perfect. now we can have a look under the microscope. there we go. and it's in the lab where we'll get to see moss's super power. the plant acts a lot like a human lung, whose high surface area can absorb a lot of the air in one go. and just like the lungs of a smoker, which end up getting blackened by tar, moss could act like the lungs of a city, eventually being covered in the stuff that we don't want to breathe. so this is from our one active products. and the black the black bits are the... exactly. this is the fine dust or particles from polluted air. and these are the green cells. and it means that the

moss is still healthy because it's green.