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this is bbc news, i'm ben brown. tonight at 5pm... six of the best — england start their world cup campaign in qatar by half a dozen goals past iran. meanwhile, wales kick off against the united states in two hours�* time — it's the first world cup tournament for wales in 64 years. both england and wales say their captains will not be wearing one love rainbow armbands to promote diversity because fifa have threatened yellow cards if they do.
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in other news — at least 162 people have died after a powerful earthquake shook the indonesian province of west java. hundreds are injured. lawyers for shamima begum tell a court she was a victim of human trafficking — when she travelled to syria to join the islamic state group seven years ago. and the prime minister rules out a swiss—style deal with the european union, after speculation ministers could seek closer ties with brussels. hello. england have made a dream start at the qatar world cup against iran. they've thrashed them 6—2 — the goals coming from jude bellingham, jack grealish, raheem sterling, and marcus rashford, and two by bukayo saka. the iranian team did not sing their national anthem in support of protesters
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against their regime. wales get their first world cup campaign for 64 years under way against the usa this evening. let's go to lucy hockings, in doha. welcome to doha. the world cup is now in full swing. we've been watching a match between senegal in the netherlands in group a. it is currently still goalless at half—time, lots of opportunities so far but no goals. it was much more exciting earlier when england secured a conference a victory in their opening world cup match against iran. so much to talk about here, but let's start by showing you a little bit of that action on the field first. this goal was scored by marcus rashford, he'd onlyjust come on to substitute when he found the net, that's the first time he's done so in a major tournament. some
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consolation for iran, he put his name on the scoresheet, he did it twice giving the iranian supporters to celebrate. there was the football but before the match had even started, there was so much controversy once again swirling around the stadium. in the last few hours, it's been confirmed that england, wales and other european nations will not wear the one love armband because of a threat of players being booked. when the players actually reached the pitch, many of the iranian team refused to sing the national anthem. the captain had already spoken out against the government in tehran. that sentiment was matched by iranian fans, here they are arriving to the stadium. the song you can
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hear them singing as the song of resistance in iran as stomach or after the protests over the death of mansa amini continue in countries across the country —— across the country. we saw the labour organisation holding a candlelit vigil, are all part of a protest against qatar's human rights record. they'd also coincided with the start of the world cup, day of the dead. they wanted to raise awareness of qatar's migrant workers fatalities. 6500 footballs were laid out across the stadium. human rights —— that's the stadium. human rights —— that's the number that human rights groups say have died in the construction of the stadium in the lead up to the tournament. i've been speaking to the secretary general of amnesty international who is in mexico right now, and what she wanted to emphasise was that a lot of
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footballers on the way, it's continue that fans can pin you to focus on the controversy surrounding them. i focus on the controversy surrounding them. ., ., ., focus on the controversy surrounding them. . ., ., “ them. i want to tell them to think about the iranian _ them. i want to tell them to think about the iranian team, _ them. i want to tell them to think about the iranian team, not - them. i want to tell them to think about the iranian team, notjust l about the iranian team, notjust the anniversary of a football game, but as young men who have taken an incredible risk today. they've taken an incredible risk by refusing to sing the anthem. i want the fans to think about them. because when they go back to iran, they could be arrested or tortured, or sentenced to death as many protesters have been. 58 children in iran have died — that cannot be evacuated from the stadium. it is not a rights free zone, we need to understand that football can be a fantastic way for people to come together. but that can only be done
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if we understand we owned the human rights of everybody, including the migrant workers and the athletes of iran. so i'm begging the fans to please think of the risks they've taken so that they could offer you that. the rights of lgbtq+ are recognised under international law. it is shameful that fifa should have prevented athletes from wearing the arm band which is an armband of around non—discrimination and equality. have you spoken to the lgbt people of qatar, have you spoken to those who are facing the death penalty because they are engaged in a relationship with a same—sex partner? this is what we are talking about. let's not use the
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word culture, it's not about culture wars here, it's about people dying, about lgbtq+ people facing the death penalty. it's human rights, it's basic recognition of a right to life. ., , ., ~ , life. one of the big talking points toda has life. one of the big talking points today has been _ life. one of the big talking points today has been the _ life. one of the big talking points today has been the participation l life. one of the big talking points. today has been the participation of iran in this tournament, and also the reaction of the iranian players when they took to the pitch today. i'm nowjoined by iran's warner junior world champion wrestler, he is also... which is focused on banning the islamic public of iran from tournaments due to its human rights violations. very good to have you with us. can you tell me first what your reaction was when you watched the players go onto the pitch today and remain completely silent during the national anthem?
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thanks for having me. before coming here i was watching some of the reaction from people inside iran on social media. it is unbelievable, people are celebrating losing their own national team. so they were celebrating the winning of england's team over their national team. why? because they don't consider this team the national team, they consider it as the islamic republic team. it wasjust consider it as the islamic republic team. it was just a few days ago that the athletes went and shook the hand of the president of iran — the same hand that has cracked down hard on those protesters. so these athletes have been under a lot of criticism. so do i think that this is enough for these athletes to make the iranian people happy? i don't know, we will see in the next few days. but i think people expect solidarity while teenagers are
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getting killed in this difficult situation. , ., ., . , situation. given how passionately iranians feel _ situation. given how passionately iranians feel about _ situation. given how passionately iranians feel about football, - situation. given how passionately iranians feel about football, that l iranians feel about football, that does seem remarkable that they are celebrating an england victory. and the fact that the players took the pitch and responded to that criticism, and remained silent today — i've been speaking to the head of amnesty, they say they've but themselves at risk by doing that. do they face arrest? i themselves at risk by doing that. do they face arrest?— they face arrest? i should say that riaht they face arrest? i should say that right now. — they face arrest? i should say that right now. the _ they face arrest? i should say that right now, the main _ they face arrest? i should say that right now, the main risk _ they face arrest? i should say that right now, the main risk is - they face arrest? i should say that right now, the main risk is those l right now, the main risk is those teenagers on the street take the real risk, they are at the front line. they are getting killed — 14,000, most young people, have been arrested. the women who are leading this revolution are the leaders, they are at the front line, they're taking the big risk. my sister was
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arrested alongside a lot of other people. a lot of people have been arrested — so i don't think it's a big risk for those athletes, and these people expect them to show more solidarity than to remain in silence. 50 more solidarity than to remain in silence. , ., more solidarity than to remain in silence. ,, ., silence. so when you say more solidarity. _ silence. so when you say more solidarity, what _ silence. so when you say more solidarity, what are _ silence. so when you say more solidarity, what are you - silence. so when you say more| solidarity, what are you looking silence. so when you say more - solidarity, what are you looking for from these players with eyes on them around the world? they remained silent during the national anthem, what else? i silent during the national anthem, what else? , ., ., what else? i should say that right now, a what else? i should say that right now. a lot — what else? i should say that right now. a lot of _ what else? i should say that right now, a lot of athletes _ what else? i should say that right now, a lot of athletes have beenl now, a lot of athletes have been arrested and jailed, and those who were brave enough to speak up because the government wants them to remain silent, those who have been braid enough have been threatened on their social media— but since two months ago, these athletes have been
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criticised because they remained silent and there support was not enough on social media for these people. so these people, if they were holding the pictures of those teenagers, those leaders who have been killed, they can hold a picture of mansa amini — i think this is what people need more, because right now in this revolution, everybody should help this revolution. the city of curtis... city of what should help this revolution. the city of what my people are being arrested and dying in iran, i know — i know you did not dust you did not want to go to this event at all, you wrote a letter to fifa to ask that iran being dumb be banned from this tournament. iran being dumb be banned from this tournament-— iran being dumb be banned from this tournament. what was fifa's reaction to this letter? _ tournament. what was fifa's reaction to this letter? you _ tournament. what was fifa's reaction to this letter? you know— tournament. what was fifa's reaction to this letter? you know the - tournament. what was fifa's reaction to this letter? you know the history | to this letter? you know the history of fifa, they — to this letter? you know the history
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of fifa, they are _ to this letter? you know the history of fifa, they are ignoring _ to this letter? you know the history of fifa, they are ignoring those - of fifa, they are ignoring those concerns and focusing purely on the game. we asked if to ban iran because the iranian regime wants to because the iranian regime wants to be accepted, and they always use sports washing. unfortunately it was disappointing, we will continue to try to ban iran from all international competition. but the focus is on women, life, freedom. theyjust focus is on women, life, freedom. they just want to change things from the islamic state of iran to the democratic republic of iran. they want to take their freedom and dignity back, and everybody, including these athletes, should support those young girls and women. thank you very much forjoining us, great to hear your thoughts, they
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were copperheads civilly beaten but shown very much how politics and sports are still very intertwined, and we are seeing it obviously inside the stadium and the pitch. a big moment today where wales make theirfirst appearance big moment today where wales make their first appearance of the tournament in more than 60 years. they'll play the us in the next few hours. i've been to being to the former wales international. it’s former wales international. it's 'ust a former wales international. it's just a huge _ former wales international. it�*s just a huge moment, 64 years since the last world cup. when you are faced with all the heartbreak, the near misses, everything that we felt over the last few years, great football nation, now it's just a time to celebrate and it's just a big party happening right now. share big party happening right now. are ou big party happening right now. are you checking a big party later? i know you're hosting an event later tonight. —— expecting a big party.
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yes, as soon as i finish here. a big party, i'll watch the game, some questions and answers, some analysis. but we will enjoy the world cup, everyone willjust have a really fun night tonight. i'm really looking forward to that and i'll be the special guest there, so it's really nice. what a way to do it, in cardiff, in the capital, we will celebrate. cardiff, in the capital, we will celebrate-— cardiff, in the capital, we will celebrate. ., , , celebrate. robert, here in delhi i've been speaking _ celebrate. robert, here in delhi i've been speaking to _ celebrate. robert, here in delhi i've been speaking to some - celebrate. robert, here in delhi l i've been speaking to some welsh fans, they are incredibly emotional about this moment. usually proud of the team, really backing the team and expecting some pretty big results. but can you put us in the minds of the players right now because mike what are they going through in these few hours before the match? i through in these few hours before the match?— the match? i think the biggest thin , the match? i think the biggest thing. what — the match? i think the biggest thing, what the _ the match? i think the biggest thing, what the players - the match? i think the biggest thing, what the players are - the match? i think the biggest i thing, what the players are going there right now, they can't wait to get the game kicked off, the national anthem and get on the pitch. it's ok to train but the anticipation and excitement of the
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world —— world cup on the world stage, what you go through as a player, you're like, i don't want to train any more, i want to be on the pitch in front of the fans and play in the world cup." so that's where they are right now. they'll be super excited, and great anticipation happening. but i'm also very proud that they are the team right now that'll represent the nation. robert reflectin: that'll represent the nation. robert reflecting the _ that'll represent the nation. robert reflecting the views _ that'll represent the nation. robert reflecting the views of _ that'll represent the nation. robert reflecting the views of welsh - that'll represent the nation. robert reflecting the views of welsh fans i reflecting the views of welsh fans here in doha. 0ne quick story to bring you, taking us back to the england— iran game earlier. there was a lot of confusion at the stadium where the match took place. that's because a lot of players getting into the stadium, they missed the beginning of the match because the fee ticketing app crashed, so hundreds of fans
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actually missed the very beginning of the match. a lot of frustration on social media being expressed by fans who were at the stadium at the time because people were paying a fortune for their tickets to fly over dedeaux hall, up to £150 to get in. waiting in the heat outside the stadium for a couple of hours, they found out they could neck to get in because their ticket wasn't showing up because their ticket wasn't showing up on the app —— they couldn't get in. incredible frustrating for those fans, but once they were in and saw the goals, i'm sure they were thrilled with the results. so maybe that anger has been somewhat lessened by the result that they witnessed at the stadium. back to you in london. lucy, thank you very much. how frustrating would that be if you went all the way to qatar and couldn't get into the game? let's speak to larry shaw, who wasn't at the stadium but was very much watching from here. thank you for being with us. what did you think of the game in england because my performance, how far did they get
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in this tournament? == my performance, how far did they get in this tournament?— in this tournament? -- england's performance _ in this tournament? -- england's performance. i— in this tournament? -- england's performance. i quite _ in this tournament? -- england's performance. i quite sympathise | in this tournament? -- england's - performance. i quite sympathise with those fans who couldn't get in because i think england made a hash of it —— fifa made a hash of it. these applications that you need to get into sports events back at home, you need it to get into rugby matches, it's amazing they didn't dummy trial it. hopefully they didn't miss too much. 0nto the game, england can really only beat what's in front of them — iran were quite poon in front of them — iran were quite poor, they were fairly solid early on, if you robust challenges going in. but after half—time, they completely faded. i thought england did well, the first game of the tournament, to score six goals is
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excellent. but listening to gareth southgate on the tv afterwards, he was rather upset about the two goals they conceded, a bit of a hiatus in defence, penalties that may be shouldn't have been and one that shouldn't have been and one that should have been given for england in the first half. so he will get everybody�*s feet on the ground, and really it makes for an exciting finale to the group, for the united kingdom, because should wales beat the usa this evening — and i'm pretty sure, from what i've seen, they will be iran — that it looks like we could have two home nations qualifying for the next round which would be excellent. but putting aside all the political issues that have preceded this tournament and all the virtue signalling with these things that have been happening — i think putting rainbow leases on,
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rainbow flags on your aeroplanes, qatar won't be the least bit bothered. but for fifa to come down and say to england, if you wear such and say to england, if you wear such an armband, you could face a yellow card — that is absolutely ridiculous... card - that is absolutely ridiculous. . ._ card - that is absolutely ridiculous... ., ., ridiculous... thank you for your views on _ ridiculous... thank you for your views on the — ridiculous... thank you for your views on the politics _ ridiculous... thank you for your views on the politics of - ridiculous... thank you for your views on the politics of fifa - ridiculous... thank you for your views on the politics of fifa and england's chances, larry shaw there, and england fan walking —— watching at home. we can also talk about the wales game against the us. 0ur wales correspondent tomos morgan is in cardiff. this is such a big moment for wales because it's theirfirst this is such a big moment for wales because it's their first world cup tournament in 64 years? as because it's their first world cup tournament in 64 years? 64 years, a number of near — tournament in 64 years? 64 years, a number of near misses _ tournament in 64 years? 64 years, a number of near misses in _ tournament in 64 years? 64 years, a number of near misses in the - tournament in 64 years? 64 years, a number of near misses in the last. number of near misses in the last few years, that one in 2017 against the republic of ireland — i remember watching that game with my head in my hands, but they finally made it after the success of qualifying for
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euro 2016 and getting to the semifinals there, qualifying again for the semifinals there, the world cup has always remained elusive, and finally we are here. this place is only been open for about a quarter of an hour, it'll be filling up pretty fast. 0ne of an hour, it'll be filling up pretty fast. one thing you'll see a lot of in the next week and a half, two weeks or so is this bucket hat. synonymous for wells fans, everyone will be wearing it, there's even a massive one out in doha to represent wales. the first game with usa will be tough, we've only played them twice, drew wants. so let's get the thoughts of two of the 1500 fans are so who will be coming to this venue here to watch. james and jacob watson. what does it mean to you as a wales football fan to finally see wales in the world cup? obviously wells haven't _ wales in the world cup? obviously wells haven't been _ wales in the world cup? obviously wells haven't been in _ wales in the world cup? obviously wells haven't been in the - wales in the world cup? obviously wells haven't been in the world i wales in the world cup? obviouslyl wells haven't been in the world cup since _ wells haven't been in the world cup since i958~ — wells haven't been in the world cup since 1958. my wells haven't been in the world cup since1958. my grandfather
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remembers. it'sjust absolutely remembers. it's just absolutely amazing — remembers. it'sjust absolutely amazing to be here, after way too long _ amazing to be here, after way too lonu. �* , amazing to be here, after way too lon._ �*, , amazing to be here, after way too lonu. �*, , ., amazing to be here, after way too lonu. ..,, long. it's become a bit infectious because since _ long. it's become a bit infectious because since 2016, _ long. it's become a bit infectious because since 2016, it's - long. it's become a bit infectious because since 2016, it's now i long. it's become a bit infectious i because since 2016, it's now getting to the point where actually qualifying for the major tournaments is starting to slowly become the norm. i is starting to slowly become the norm. ~' is starting to slowly become the norm. ~ ,., i. �* is starting to slowly become the norm. ~ ,., ,, �* ., is starting to slowly become the norm. ~ ,, �* ., . is starting to slowly become the norm. ~ �* ., . ., norm. i think so, you've got a lot of young boys — norm. i think so, you've got a lot of young boys coming _ norm. i think so, you've got a lot of young boys coming through i norm. i think so, you've got a lot of young boys coming through in | of young boys coming through in helping — of young boys coming through in helping out, _ of young boys coming through in helping out, you've _ of young boys coming through in helping out, you've got... - of young boys coming through in helping out, you've got... 50. of young boys coming through in helping out, you've got... so i. helping out, you've got... sol think— helping out, you've got... sol think with _ helping out, you've got... sol think with the _ helping out, you've got... sol think with the younger - helping out, you've got... sol think with the younger talent, | helping out, you've got... so i- think with the younger talent, only happen— think with the younger talent, only happen more — think with the younger talent, only happen more more _ think with the younger talent, only happen more more in— think with the younger talent, only happen more more in big - think with the younger talent, only- happen more more in big tournaments. the big _ happen more more in big tournaments. the big question — happen more more in big tournaments. the big question for— happen more more in big tournaments. the big question for you _ happen more more in big tournaments. the big question for you guys— happen more more in big tournaments. the big question for you guys is, - the big question for you guys is, we've got big shoes to fill. any predictions? tht, we've got big shoes to fill. any predictions?— we've got big shoes to fill. any redictions? ~ . . , predictions? a solid start against america, there _ predictions? a solid start against america, there will _ predictions? a solid start against america, there will be _ predictions? a solid start against america, there will be a - predictions? a solid start against america, there will be a big i predictions? a solid start against i america, there will be a big crunch match— america, there will be a big crunch match against england. did america, there will be a big crunch match against england.— match against england. did you go out to any of— match against england. did you go out to any of the _ match against england. did you go out to any of the qualifiers? i match against england. did you go out to any of the qualifiers? how l out to any of the qualifiers? how much of you been following over the last few years? we much of you been following over the last few years?—
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last few years? we were here at the last few years? we were here at the last qualifier — last few years? we were here at the last qualifier for _ last few years? we were here at the last qualifier for the _ last few years? we were here at the last qualifier for the ukraine - last few years? we were here at the last qualifier for the ukraine game, | last qualifier for the ukraine game, that was— last qualifier for the ukraine game, that was an — last qualifier for the ukraine game, that was an unreal— last qualifier for the ukraine game, that was an unreal experience i last qualifier for the ukraine game, that was an unreal experience and i last qualifier for the ukraine game, i that was an unreal experience and we celebrated _ that was an unreal experience and we celebrated with — that was an unreal experience and we celebrated with friends, _ that was an unreal experience and we celebrated with friends, it _ that was an unreal experience and we celebrated with friends, it was - celebrated with friends, it was really— celebrated with friends, it was really good _ celebrated with friends, it was really good it— celebrated with friends, it was really good-— really good. it sounds like an obvious question _ really good. it sounds like an obvious question but - really good. it sounds like an obvious question but i'll- really good. it sounds like an obvious question but i'll ask| really good. it sounds like an | obvious question but i'll ask it anyway — would a win tonight cap off the greatest ever as a wells fan for you —— wales fan? the greatest ever as a wells fan for you -- wales fan?— the greatest ever as a wells fan for you -- wales fan? after1958, being here and the — you -- wales fan? after1958, being here and the world _ you -- wales fan? after1958, being here and the world cup _ you -- wales fan? after1958, being here and the world cup in _ you -- wales fan? after1958, being here and the world cup in 2022 is i here and the world cup in 2022 is fantastic — here and the world cup in 2022 is fantastic. carrying us into this tournament, being captain, ithink you can— tournament, being captain, ithink you canask— tournament, being captain, ithink you can ask for anyone better. jacob and james. — you can ask for anyone better. jacob and james. thank — you can ask for anyone better. jacob and james, thank you. _ you can ask for anyone better. jacob and james, thank you. we've - you can ask for anyone better. iacm and james, thank you. we've got about an hour and james, thank you. we've got aboutan hourand and james, thank you. we've got about an hour and a half until kick off now, this place is filling up quite quickly, people getting a beer in, the bucket hats are now in force. it'll be quite an occasion tonight, let's hope we can the footsteps of england stop what i know it's pretty noisy out there but
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if you can hear me, as a student of welsh football, what's your score prediction for tonight? welsh football, what's your score prediction fortonight? i welsh football, what's your score prediction for tonight? i probably wasn't built for football, more so for rugby. but if i was a betting man, i'd go 1—0 wales. gareth bale free kit, may be 40 minutes in? that would be my prediction.— free kit, may be 40 minutes in? that would be my prediction. sounds good, thank ou would be my prediction. sounds good, thank you very — would be my prediction. sounds good, thank you very much. _ rishi sunak has said the uk will not realign with eu laws to boost trade, after downing street sought to play down suggestions the government was considering closer ties with member states. speaking at the cbi conference in birmingham, mr sunak said brexit provided new opportunities to control migration and strike new trade deals.
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0ur political correspondent alex forsyth is at the cbi conference in birmingham. alex, that idea that was floated in one of the papers over the weekend, that england might see a swiss style arrangement with the eli. that england might see a swiss style arrangement with the— arrangement with the eu, they've been tuite arrangement with the eu, they've been quite quick— arrangement with the eu, they've been quite quick to _ arrangement with the eu, they've been quite quick to shoot - arrangement with the eu, they've been quite quick to shoot that i arrangement with the eu, they've i been quite quick to shoot that down? this conference happens once a year but there's been one focus of this particular gathering, and that is how do businesses grow in the current economic picture when england faces a recession, with inflation going up, interest rates and a squeeze on public finances? trade has been part of that conversation. there were reports in the sunday times that number ten might be considering trying to go for some sort of swiss style arrangement with the eu, which basically means less friction when it comes to trade, easier to trade, but much closer to ties than having some eu rules. that cause some real disquiet amongst conservative mps, particularly those who supported
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brexit for some time. today the prime minister rishi sunak made clear as prime minister, he would not be following any sort of arrangement with the eu which required the uk to follow eu rules and regulations. this is what he had to say earlier. under my leadership, the united kingdom will not pursue any relationship with europe that relies on alignment with the eu laws. now, i voted for brexit, i believe in brexit. and i know that brexit can deliver and is already delivering enormous benefits and opportunities for the country. migration being an immediate one — where we have proper control of our borders and are able to have a conversation with the country about the type of migration that we want and need. the prime minister they are talking about migration. the boss of the cbi suggested there should be more immigration to plug some labour shortages in the market at the moment. the p m —— pm wouldn't be swayed on that, he wanted to tackle
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what he called illegal immigration. this is more of the prime minister's attempt to restore some stability after the turbulence, but the question is about how to achieve growth that a seed —— has seemed so elusive. growth that a seed -- has seemed so elusive. �* ., , growth that a seed -- has seemed so elusive. �* ., _ . �* nhs leaders in scotland have discussed a radical plan that would make wealthy people pay for health service treatment. it would mean abandoning the founding principles of the nhs that make it free at the point of delivery. here's our scotland editor james cook in glasgow. this is a minute of a meeting held by nhs chief executives in september — and in it, they appear to have discussed all sorts of ideas for the reform of the nhs — most controversially, of course, that suggestion there could be a two—tier service where those who can afford to go private. but also plenty of other ideas apparently on the table, including cutting the funding of new drugs, perhaps restricting access to free prescriptions, which are state funded in scotland,
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and also discharging patients from hospital earlier is one possibility, even if that leads to increased risk. now the most controversial has been immediately knocked down by the scottish government, the first minister, nicola sturgeon, telling us that the founding principles of the nhs are not up for discussion, and indeed, the prime minister echoing those points in his speech this morning, as well. so what we have here is perhaps an indication from within the nhs that there is a very serious crisis and that something significant does need to change, even if the politicians say it won't be as significant as completely abandoning the founding principles of the nhs. dave west, deputy editor at the health service journal, joins me now. thanks for being with us, how significant is it that these officials, and they were officials,
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not democratically elected representatives, or even talking about this idea of a two—tier nhs where the wealthier pay for their treatment? it where the wealthier pay for their treatment?— treatment? it is, without any details of _ treatment? it is, without any details of the _ treatment? it is, without any details of the discussions i treatment? it is, without any i details of the discussions taking place amongst senior officials in scotland, a significant step for them to be seen to be taking discussing that very dramatic step, which as you said would be a pretty clear and obvious step away from the founding principles of the nhs, and i guess that's why it's been rapidly disowned by the politicians, by the health secretary in scotland. i5 health secretary in scotland. is evidence of how hard pressed to the nhs is in scotland in particular that they are even thinking about an idea like this?— idea like this? that's right, that idea like this? that's right, that idea and some _ idea like this? that's right, that idea and some others _ idea like this? that's right, that idea and some others that i idea like this? that's right, that idea and some others that were idea like this? that's right, that i idea and some others that were put forward, as well, are absolutely a reflection of the financial pressures that the nhs is under in
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scotland, especially with the various budget. curbs are having to be made but it's the case across the rest of the uk and england where financial pressures, as well as staffing pressures and pressures from the service, the fact that there's a lot of demand on service with covid going on, and the knock on effects of covid from the last couple years. a number of those things have been consistent in —— considered, like access to medicines, having to make progress on that has come up in the last decade when the health system has been under severe financial strain, and parts of the country have talked about having more rationing and prioritisation over who has more access to care, but there's been examples of senior nhs officials
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actually talking about encouraging people to use private care instead if they've got the means. although the reality is _ if they've got the means. although the reality is that _ if they've got the means. although the reality is that ever _ if they've got the means. although the reality is that ever since - if they've got the means. although the reality is that ever since the i the reality is that ever since the nhs was founded, there have been things like prescription charges — the founder of the nhs resigned in the founder of the nhs resigned in the 1950s because there were charges for eye care industry, and so on. and more recently there's been plenty of evidence in parts of the uk, they are virtually impossible to access, like nhs dentistry care, so those people are forced to use private health care. at the minute england is focusing on adjusting the age and access to free prescriptions. so there are aspects of that, but they have been fairly closely guarded over the decades and changing entitlement to routine
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planned operations like a knee operation or cataracts appears to be what suggested in the document, it's quite a separate and significant step away from that.— quite a separate and significant step away from that. very good to talk to you. _ step away from that. very good to talk to you, dave. _ now it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. hi there, good evening, it's been a cold day and a wet day for many parts of the uk. last night brought the coldest weather of the autumn so far, after that shall he start there have been places in northern scotland that have been freezing today, —— shall restart. this band has brought some flooding issues, the rain petering out across central parts of the uk overnight, at the same time a swathe of gales likely to develop over england with some sharp showers. generally speaking not as cold as it was last night but there will still be places that see a touch of frost. now tomorrow a
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somewhat dry, calm her day, still somewhat dry, calm her day, still some rain in eastern and northwestern scotland, some rain in the channel islands, but more in the way of sunshine, lighter winds, so it shouldn't feel quite as cold. those are the temperatures, 6—12 c. it does actually turn milder as the week wears on but there will still be spells of rain and wind at times. hello this is bbc news. the headlines... six of the best of england and start their world cup campaign in qatar by putting half a dozen goals past iran. some england vans missed the start of the game after fifa's ticket app crashed. whales kick off their tournament against the us and just an hour their tournament against the us and justan hourand their tournament against the us and just an hour and a half's time. it's
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the fast road cup tournament for whales and 64 years. both england and wales say their captains will not be wearing one love rainbow armbands to promote diversity because fifa have threatened yellow cards if they deal. away from the world cup, the prime minister has ruled out a swiss style deal with it european union after speculation that ministers could seek closer ties with brussels. at least 162 people have died after a powerful earthquake shook the indonesian province of west java, hundreds have been injured. lawyers freshening the bag them have told the court that she was a victim of human trafficking when she travelled to syria to join the islamic state group seven years ago. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's gavin. good evening. england are off to a great start —
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at the world cup in qatar — after their 6—2 hammering of iran this afternoon. fans had some trouble getting into their opening match at the khalifa stadium — due to problems with the e—ticketing system before kick off. those that did make it in, saw england take the lead thanks tojude bellingham's header, just after half an hour. the 19—year—old rising to meet luke shaw's cross — the pressure had been building ahead of that goal. bukayo sa ka was on the scoresheet twice, either side of a raheem sterling goal. marcus rashford, and jack grealish here finishing things off... who dedicated his goal celebration — to a young fan with cerebral palsy. the same condition his sister has. 0bviously, about a month ago, we got on really well. having cerebral palsy like my little sister as well, so cimino, he asked me to do a celebration for him and likely for him it came at the world cup. that
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is what it is all about, for me, it's just is what it is all about, for me, it'sjust doing a is what it is all about, for me, it's just doing a celebration, is what it is all about, for me, it'sjust doing a celebration, but for him, you know, that will mean the world to him, i'm sure, especially me doing it at the world cup. so finley, that one is for you. what a gesture. well, despite the margin of victory, manager gareth southgate said the team still have to improve after conceding two late goals in the match. to win by that margin to play as we did for the majority of the game can make out to be really happy. that's the players preparing. they looked ready. we wanted to be that type of team and they dealt with the game really well. it was a sticky first half, lots of stoppages but we where a real threat throughout that. our pricing was really good. 0ur movement was really good. we will have to be right on our game against the states. it is great. it's a great start, but we are going to have to be better. wales, who are in the same group as england, will end a 64—year world cup wait tonight when they play the united states. an estimated 3,000 wales fans
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have travelled to qatar. in 1958, they made the quarter finals without winning a game — before losing to the eventual champions, brazil. for all the players in 2022, they want to make the most of this long—awaited opportunity — and the fans are very much behind them, as they've been telling our correspondent hwyel griffith. it isa it is a mixture of emotions. it's incredible. it has been a dream of mine, welsh football has been in my heart since i was seven years old. so a mixture of excitement, nerves, and most of all pride. just thinking, and mentioned to my dad who obviously i inherited the passion from him and he would be looking down. so proud of the last few years. just enjoying the whole experience. the it feels really surreal, yeah, yeah. thud experience. the it feels really surreal, yeah, yeah. and what are our surreal, yeah, yeah. and what are your hepes _ surreal, yeah, yeah. and what are your hopes for _ surreal, yeah, yeah. and what are your hopes for today's _ surreal, yeah, yeah. and what are your hopes for today's game? i i surreal, yeah, yeah. and what are i your hopes for today's game? i win. confidence? — your hopes for today's game? i win. confidence? yes. _ your hopes for today's game? i win. confidence? yes. you _ your hopes for today's game? i win. confidence? yes. you had _ your hopes for today's game? i win. confidence? yes. you had to - your hopes for today's game? i win. confidence? yes. you had to think. confidence? yes. you had to think about it. yeah, _ confidence? yes. you had to think about it. yeah, we _ confidence? yes. you had to think about it. yeah, we are _ confidence? yes. you had to think about it. yeah, we are going i confidence? yes. you had to think about it. yeah, we are going to i confidence? yes. you had to think. about it. yeah, we are going to win.
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we are going _ about it. yeah, we are going to win. we are going to _ about it. yeah, we are going to win. we are going to win. _ about it. yeah, we are going to win. we are going to win. to _ about it. yeah, we are going to win. we are going to win. to syria - about it. yeah, we are going to win. we are going to win. to syria whenl we are going to win. to syria when ou see we are going to win. to syria when you see brazilian _ we are going to win. to syria when you see brazilian fans _ we are going to win. to syria when you see brazilian fans and - we are going to win. to syria when you see brazilian fans and the i we are going to win. to syria when you see brazilian fans and the big i you see brazilian fans and the big countries that whales are on the same table as them now. we are ready now. we waited a long time for this. there are redshirts everywhere and everyone _ there are redshirts everywhere and everyone is — there are redshirts everywhere and everyone isjust _ there are redshirts everywhere and everyone isjust having _ there are redshirts everywhere and everyone isjust having such - there are redshirts everywhere and everyone isjust having such an- everyone isjust having such an exciting — everyone isjust having such an exciting day _ everyone isjust having such an exciting day. it's _ everyone isjust having such an exciting day. it's amazing. i not too long for kick for that one. we're into the second half, of the second game of the day — senegal and the netherlands in group a. this is the latest from the al thumama stadium in doha. it's been a game of few clear cut chances so far — the winners hoping to keep pace with ecuador in the group, who beat qatar in the opening game yesterday. that's all the sport for now. see you again at 6:30pm. thank you, gavin. let's talk about space now.
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the nasa's artemis spacecraft has arrived at the orbit of the moon, after launching last wednesday. this is the most powerful rocket the american government agency has ever built and its part of the artemis programme which aims to land humans on the moon. that's all in the future. let's talk about what's going on now. let's speak now to professorjeffrey hoffman, former nasa astronaut, who teaches at the massachusetts institute of technology. very good to have it with us. thank you so much for your time. what do you so much for your time. what do you make of this artemis 0rion mission? how important do you think it is? it’s mission? how important do you think itis? ,~ it is? it's absolutely critical if we are going _ it is? it's absolutely critical if we are going to _ it is? it's absolutely critical if we are going to get - it is? it's absolutely critical if we are going to get people i it is? it's absolutely critical if. we are going to get people back it is? it's absolutely critical if- we are going to get people back to the moon and the next few years. this is basically a rehearsal of what would be done with the next artemis mission, which will carry
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people. again, it's not landing on the moon it's sort of like apollo eight going around the moon. although, it will be using a slightly different orbits retrograde orbits, don't need to go into the details, but basically, everything has gone well so far in it bodes well for the next attempt. just tell us a bit more _ well for the next attempt. just tell us a bit more about _ well for the next attempt. just tell us a bit more about what - well for the next attempt. just tell us a bit more about what is - well for the next attempt. just tell us a bit more about what is the i us a bit more about what is the long term plan? what is the big idea here? i was outlining that the idea is to get humans back to the moon in 2025, but that is just a staging post. i 2025, but that is 'ust a staging ost. , . , post. i see it a little bit differently. _ post. i see it a little bit differently. the - post. i see it a little bit differently. the moon i post. i see it a little bit| differently. the moon is post. i see it a little bit _ differently. the moon is interesting in its own right for both scientific exploration and because of the possibility that there may be useful resources on the moon, in particular near the south pole of the moon and some of the permanently shadowed craters. there may be large deposits
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of water which could be converted into rocket fuel and that would certainly help us on the way to mars because we wouldn't have to take all that fuel from the surface of the earth. that is what people are talking about when they talk about going to mars. although, in addition, i would say thatjust the experience of working on the surface of another planetary body, remember, we haven't done that for 50 years. we need to build back some of our experience, some of our expertise and that will also help us eventually to get to mars. you say we haven't — eventually to get to mars. you say we haven't done _ eventually to get to mars. you say we haven't done that _ eventually to get to mars. you say we haven't done that for _ eventually to get to mars. you say we haven't done that for 50 i eventually to get to mars. you say we haven't done that for 50 years. why haven't we done it for so long? i remember as a little boy watching the moon landing, huge excitement and then it all stopped, the expiration of the moon. ides i and then it all stopped, the expiration of the moon. as i did with great _ expiration of the moon. as i did with great excitement. - expiration of the moon. as i did with great excitement. but i expiration of the moon. as i didj with great excitement. but let's remember, apollo was never designed to be sustainable. apollo was a direct challenge to get to the moon before the russians dead. it was a race, we won, and then we stopped.
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it was very expensive. designed to be sustainable. the hope is that we will not go just to bring back a few pieces of rock and plant a flag, we are going to go to stay to set up a scientific base, much like we have at the south pole and use that as a basis for exploration of other parts of the moon, and also to look and see, is there really water in these cratersand so, how can we get access to it? get it out and exploit it to use as rocket fuel? so there is a lot to done and this is only a very first small step. well, i would call it a pretty large step, but it is so far successful.— it a pretty large step, but it is so far successful. one small step for man, as somebody _ far successful. one small step for man, as somebody once - far successful. one small step for man, as somebody once said. i far successful. one small step for man, as somebody once said. he| man, as somebody once said. he mentioned they are about establishing a base camp on the
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longer term, establishing a base camp on the longerterm, in establishing a base camp on the longer term, in future centuries, could you envisage an idea where we colonise the moon and we have people living there all the time and perhaps using its resources? well, whether people — perhaps using its resources? well, whether people are _ perhaps using its resources? well, whether people are going - perhaps using its resources? -ii whether people are going to live there permanently, that is a little hard to say. it's a pretty bleak environment. although, if you look at some of the places, you know, backin at some of the places, you know, back in the 19th century, if somebody had taken a look at the nevada desert and said some day there is going to be a great city here and people are going to live, they would've thought you where crazy, and yet we have las vegas, you know, who knows what will happen on the moon? i suspect is a place for tourists to go for short stays, aiming, i've experienced a lunar gravity and nasa's aeroplane which can create either a zero gravity or lunar gravity. it is a lot of fun, lunar gravity. it is a lot of fun,
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lunar gravity, i could jump up, do a flip in the air and come down on my feetjust like an olympic athlete and, you know, you sort of wonder, older people, it would be great if you could get out of your wheelchair and throw away your cane, because at 16 the gravity, you will feel young again. you can do things that you never imagined, you know, over the crest of human history, how much money has been spent in the quest for remaining young, to keep our youth? so i am optimistic that there is a future for humanity on the surface of the moon is. fascinating to talk to you- _ surface of the moon is. fascinating to talk to you. i _ surface of the moon is. fascinating to talk to you. i love _ surface of the moon is. fascinating to talk to you. i love the _ surface of the moon is. fascinating to talk to you. i love the idea i surface of the moon is. fascinating to talk to you. i love the idea of i to talk to you. i love the idea of las vegas on the surface of the moon. professor, former nasa astronauts, many thanks for taking the time to talk to us. thank you. pleasure, i always enjoy talking to the bbc stop at thank you very much for that. the bbc stop at thank you very much forthat. former the bbc stop at thank you very much for that. former nasa astronaut who now for that. former nasa astronaut who no , ., for that. former nasa astronaut who now teaches at the massachusetts institute of technology. _
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at least one 162 people have been killed, in a powerful earthquake, which has shaken the indonesian province of west java. officials say at least 56 people have died after a powerful earthquake shook the province of west java. 700 people were being treated for injuries, many of them serious. the five—point—six magnitude quake, was felt, a—hundred kilometres away in the capital, jakarta — where offices were evacuated, in the central business district. valdya baraputri from the bbc�*s indonesian service is there. i can tell you when the earthquake happened, iam injakarta, 100 kilometres away from the epicentre of the earthquake, the capital city of indonesia where i am based with the bbc. when it happened i was working from home on the 31st floor. comedy told your vocation is, the stronger the tremor. indonesia has dozens of earthquakes every year in indonesia
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about the tremor of this earthquake is the most intense i have experienced in a long time. the earthquake is a 5.6 richter scale magnitude. it also forces people out of tall buildings, government and business buildings in the area here injakarta, including people who are working in bbc indonesia's office. the tremor lasted for more than a minute. people stayed out for longer in case of another wave of earthquake. the location or the epicentre of the earthquake is more than 100 kilometres from cianjur district in west java province. however, it sent an intense tremor because the location of
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the earthquake is centred on land. land earthquakes do not send tsunamis but they rattle the area stronger than an earthquake that is centred in the sea. and immigration —— an immigration hearing in london is considering whether a woman whojoined islamic state militants in syria should have had her british citizenship removed. lawyers for shamima begum argue that she was a victim of trafficking when she travelled to the country at the age ofjust 15. she remains in a camp in northern syria, nearly eight years after running away from home in london. our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford has been giving us more details.
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she was 15 —— but shamima begum was a 15—year—old when she left in the uk in february 2015 with two school friends. she travelled to the islamic state—controlled territory in syria — and very, very quickly she was married to one of the foreign fighters there who were part of the islamic state group. she re—emerged four years later when the islamic state collapsed in syria, into a detention camp, and immediately had her british citizenship taken off her by the then—home secretary, sajid javid. her lawyers today arguing that that was an overhasty move by sajid javid, just within days of her re—emerging, and they are saying in particular that the home office hadn't considered that she might have been a victim of trafficking for sexual exploitation, because she ended up being married to an adult man, aged just 15. one per legal team, in quite an impassioned opening, saying that "at its heart, this case concerns a british child, aged 15, was persuaded, influenced and affected with herfriends by a determined and effective isis propaganda machine."
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but in response, the home office is saying, "well, that's not entirely relevant because what we're considering here is the fact that she poses" — and they say that when she re—emerged in syria in 2019, she had left only for safety, and not because of a genuine disengagement from the group. she gave multiple press interviews, and at that time, she expressed no remorse. the m15 assessment of her risk is that anyone who has travelled to isis—controlled territory could have been radicalised and exposed — and in particular, that begum's activities prior to and during her travel to syria demonstrated a determination and commitment to aligning with the islamic state group. there was also a little window on some of the evidence that might have been heard in secret, which was that the police had had a report that when one of shamima begum's friends had expressed a desire to come back towards the end of 2015, it seemed that shamima begum wasn't
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expressing a desire like that at that time. russian forces in southern ukraine have stepped up their shelling of the recently liberated kherson region. officials said the emergency services were searching for possible victims in the rubble of a residential building. the city of kherson remains largely without power or mains water following the withdrawal of russian troops ten days ago. 0ur ukraine correspondent james waterhouse has sent this report from there. a week on from occupation, kherson has started the long process of healing. after eight months of being cut off, this is the wait for food donations. in a life with little food or water, this goes a long way. translation: we can manage things without power. -
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children are happy, our homes are warm. we feel relatively comfortable. and now we're here in the square, my kid on my shoulders. you see, that is freedom. it's also a chance to restore and reconnect with those who matter most. more than half of the city's 380,000 population had left. those who stayed brought closer by a common goal of survival. how are you? very well, vsyo khorosho. "things are good," he says. we ask how his week of freedom has been. "better than everything else. even though there's no power
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and water, it's freedom. that's a problem, though. 0therwise, things are good and they're going to get better". what is it? he speaks ukrainian. it's eggplant done like shashlik. mm, good? delicious, yeah, delicious. beautiful. dya kuyu. there's an optimism unaffected by the russians being 600 metres away. kherson's liberation means russian forces only occupy territory there, on the eastern bank of the dnipro river. but this isn't a clear boundary — they left some soldiers behind. and it's also not clear whether the ukrainian counter—offensives will slow just because winter is setting in. kherson's recovery will carry on regardless.
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james waterhouse, bbc news, kherson. more than 12,000 albanians have arrived in the uk on small boats in the last year, but despite the numbers, we rarely hear their stories. the bbc has spoken to a man who arrived in the uk illegally, but was rapidly deported, one of a tiny number to have been sent home in this way. newsnight�*s international correspondentjoe inwood met him in the albanian capital of tirana. it is a dangerous and illegal journey filmed by a man we're calling artan. we're hiding his identity as he fears reprisals from the people smugglers. we've come to meet him in the albanian capital, tirana, to hear about his journey to the uk and experience as one of the very few to have been sent back so quickly on a deportation flight. the money had been agreed in advance via a uk whatsapp number.
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we paid £3,500 each. it was cold, stormy and incredibly scary. it took us almost an hour to get the dinghy going, by which time traffickers had all left. he saw for himself the cooperation between british and french authorities as they made the crossing. a french police boat appeared 20 minutes into ourjourney. they accompanied us from a distance of maybe 200 metres. they stayed for three hours, maybe longer. then we crossed into uk waters and called the british police. the huge rise in the number of albanians arriving on the kent coast has caused furious debate in the uk, with the home secretary controversially calling it an invasion. less often discussed is why people are coming over. to answer that, there is really only one place to start. we're travelling north to a region called kukes, just on the border with kosovo. this is the part of albania
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where many of the young men and women who've left for the uk have come from. indeed, so many have left from the region, there are now real concerns around depopulation. you can see it at the local football club. the under 17s team is full of players. by the time they get to under 19s, they can barely put out a side. so many can't follow their dream here. so they choose to go outside the country. people will look around on this, you have a lovely stadium here and a good pitch. to the outsider, it seems nice. what is the problem? the problem is people. people is so bad. no future here, no future. translation: it's painful to talk about it. _
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it touches us all, straight in our hearts. it scratches our wounds. my own children have left. we are left alone here. it's a huge problem. there are undoubtedly problems with the uk asylum system where applications can take years to process. but according to a leading opposition mp, there are also issues of corruption in albania made worse by government inaction. if you are born poor in albania, you remain poor independently of how much you work. and we should acknowledge that as politicians. it's linked with high corruption, especially in the north of the country. most people who have arrived in small boats claim asylum. artan did not. within five days, he was being deported. translation: i was told, tomorrow l morning you will arrive in tirana. l at that moment i was so upset i can't describe it. i have never had any problems with the authorities. i have never broken the law. although presumably at that point you realised you had committed
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a crime because you'd entered the uk illegally? yes, that's understandable. and ultimately, that's why they deported us. but nevertheless, we had hoped that they might show us some compassion. there is really very little all sides agree on in this increasingly tempestuous debate, except maybe that the current system is not working for anyone except the people smugglers. joe inwood, bbc news, albania. where there will come up in a moment. just a quick update from the world cup and the netherlands game at the moment, the netherlands are one up one zero against senegal with eight minutes of injury time into the last couple of minutes. it's nearly all over there. looks like senegal are going to win that 11—0 against senegal. 0f senegal are going to win that 11—0 against senegal. of course, in an hour or so, against senegal. of course, in an hour orso, it's against senegal. of course, in an hour or so, it's whales against the united states. whales's first
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tournament for a 64 years. let's have a look at the weather now. thank you. that evening to you. a pretty cold day out there across many parts of the uk. in the north of scotland where we held onto bright skies until sundown, temperatures really struggled after what was a really cold start. minus 5.5 celsius this morning in the highlands. the coldest morning of the autumn so far. but it's also felt quite cold for as i... further south underneath this band of heavy rain. it brought flooding across some areas particularly in the south and southwest of england. underneath that rain band right now, yes, does he of very chilly indeed. those are the temperatures if you are about to head out and about. what we have is low—pressure in charge, this low pressure centre moving east reds. the rain will tend to peter out across parts of northern england, north wales, southern scotland, but as this squeeze nice bars works towards the southwest of england that could give rise to gals around some exposed posts later in the
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night. plenty of showers affecting the channel islands. broadly speaking, going to be as cold as it is last night, but some places particularly in scotland will once again see a touch of frost. now, tomorrow shouldn't feel quite as cold because they're going to be as much cloud or as much rain. some rain in eastern scotland, in northwest scotland and the channel islands at least for a time. elsewhere, we will see some spells of sunshine. temperatures to the afternoon between 6—12 celsius but not as windy as it has been today. as we look further ahead, yet another area of the pressure pushing in from the atlantic to bring more heavy rain northeastward through the day on wednesday. this band of wet weather moving across most areas and behind it we will see a return to sunny spells but also some hefty showers for northern ireland, wales, the southwest of england, the winds picking up around some of these western costs as well. if you spent at the temperatures, while you can just about see that they are heading
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upwards, certainly a degree or so higher in that process continues into thursday, the southerly winds starting to bring some somewhat milder air. another band of rain yet another to take us through the day on thursday. most of us up into double digits and that process of things getting a little milder continues to friday and particularly into the weekend. higher temperatures by day and by night. saturday night is looking particularly mild but with that we will see some outbreaks of rain and some brisk winds at times. more weather throughout the evening, but thatis weather throughout the evening, but that is all from me for now.
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