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the next details the potential cabinet row brewing over a number 10 plan to cut the number of foreign students in the uk, amid today's the ft reports on president zelenskyy vowing to thwart russia's attacks on ukraine's power networks. the guardian leads with growing controversy over a ppe company linked to the conservativepeer michelle mone sparking angry reaction from mps. the sun reports that david walliams is stepping down from britain's got talent. the mail says that gps have voted to limit the hours 9—5. will start with politics. the front page of the eye. student visa
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crackdown. set to spark a major cabinet row. can you talk through what's going on here? it is cabinet row. can you talk through what's going on here?— what's going on here? it is a fillip to the figures _ what's going on here? it is a fillip to the figures we _ what's going on here? it is a fillip to the figures we got _ what's going on here? it is a fillip to the figures we got today. - what's going on here? it is a fillip to the figures we got today. we l what's going on here? it is a fillip i to the figures we got today. we saw that net migration is 500,000 people per year. that is well over the 10,000 target that home secretary suella braverman talked about. we know that home secretary has talked about how she wants to crack on student visas. it is not so much foreign students, she wants to crack down on the ability for foreign students to bring otherfamily members. currently students can bring over several people, their mum, dad, sometimes children. suella braverman wants to cut those numbers. so we are looking forward to this cabinet row. do they have
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support in the back benches? is it actually going to happen? with this government, we hear a lot about cutting immigration numbers but these numbers show that immigration is getting higher. what these numbers show that immigration is getting higher-— is getting higher. what is your instinct? do _ is getting higher. what is your instinct? do you _ is getting higher. what is your instinct? do you think- is getting higher. what is your instinct? do you think this - is getting higher. what is your - instinct? do you think this showdown will take place? i instinct? do you think this showdown will take place?— will take place? i think suella braverman — will take place? i think suella braverman will _ will take place? i think suella braverman will be _ will take place? i think suella braverman will be allowed i will take place? i think suella braverman will be allowed to | braverman will be allowed to crackdown on the dependence that students can bring over. how big a difference that makes to the overall number is going to be pretty marginal. i don't think we will see numbers plummeting as a result. it’s numbers plummeting as a result. it's been dominating headlines for days. one of the things i found interesting was that it is 170,000 more _ interesting was that it is 170,000 more than — interesting was that it is 170,000
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more than the previous record in 2016. _ more than the previous record in 2016. the — more than the previous record in 2016, the year we voted to leave the european _ 2016, the year we voted to leave the european union. 1.1 million people -ot european union. 1.1 million people got into_ european union. 1.1 million people got into this country in the year up tojune _ got into this country in the year up tojune. this — got into this country in the year up tojune. this is a net migration figure. — tojune. this is a net migration figure. so— tojune. this is a net migration figure, so around 600,000 left the uk. figure, so around 600,000 left the uk only— figure, so around 600,000 left the uk. only about 70,000 of those were asylum _ uk. only about 70,000 of those were asylum seekers who applied for asylum — asylum seekers who applied for asylum here. that puts into perspective, the so—called crisis that some — perspective, the so—called crisis that some of the newspapers have been _ that some of the newspapers have been whipping up. with people coming over from europe on small boats. that— over from europe on small boats. that is_ over from europe on small boats. that is a — over from europe on small boats. that is a tiny fraction of the number_ that is a tiny fraction of the number of people who ended up here. i'm surprised to learn, i didn't know— i'm surprised to learn, i didn't know that _ i'm surprised to learn, i didn't know that overseas students were allowed _ know that overseas students were allowed to bring family members. i would _ allowed to bring family members. i would have thought there is an easy target _ would have thought there is an easy target for— would have thought there is an easy target for suella braverman. it is
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important — target for suella braverman. it is important when we talk about the argument, to point out the foreign office _ argument, to point out the foreign office are — argument, to point out the foreign office are likely to be against cracking _ office are likely to be against cracking down on student visas as well as— cracking down on student visas as well as the — cracking down on student visas as well as the department for education. both of those departments see foreign students coming to the uk as— see foreign students coming to the uk as a _ see foreign students coming to the uk as a good thing. fire see foreign students coming to the uk as a good thing.— see foreign students coming to the uk as a good thing. are you shaking our uk as a good thing. are you shaking your head? — uk as a good thing. are you shaking your head? just _ uk as a good thing. are you shaking your head? just in _ uk as a good thing. are you shaking your head? just in case _ uk as a good thing. are you shaking your head? just in case you - uk as a good thing. are you shaking your head? just in case you were . your head? just in case you were shaking your head, do you want to come back on that?— shaking your head, do you want to come back on that? there are two big olitical come back on that? there are two big political issues _ come back on that? there are two big political issues here, _ come back on that? there are two big political issues here, legal— political issues here, legal migration numbers, people coming here to study, people coming to work in the nhs and also those routes from ukraine and afghanistan and hong kong. separate to that a huge political problem for this government is illegal migration numbers. those channel boat
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crossings, we are up to around 50,000 this year and anybody who thinks this is not a huge electoral issueis thinks this is not a huge electoral issue is in my opinion, naive. this is a huge issue with voters and mps and it is crucial that the government get a grip on that crisis. who has control of our borders? are they coming here through legal means and that is what the illegal immigration crisis is. and matthew, you're shaking your head? it and matthew, you're shaking your head? , ., ., . and matthew, you're shaking your head? ., ,, head? it is a toxic political issue, because papers _ head? it is a toxic political issue, because papers such _ head? it is a toxic political issue, because papers such as - head? it is a toxic political issue, because papers such as hers, - head? it is a toxic political issue, | because papers such as hers, they whip _ because papers such as hers, they whip up _ because papers such as hers, they whip up this hysteria about illegal migration. some of these people should _ migration. some of these people should not be coming here, we do need _ should not be coming here, we do need to— should not be coming here, we do need to have control of our borders but we _ need to have control of our borders but we need to get this into perspective. it is a tiny fraction,
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the albanians coming over, 10,000 may he _ the albanians coming over, 10,000 may be 14,000. 1.1 million people immigrated to britain in the year. the overall— immigrated to britain in the year. the overall figure is one million. we have — the overall figure is one million. we have to — the overall figure is one million. we have to get this in perspective, it is a _ we have to get this in perspective, it is a toxic— we have to get this in perspective, it is a toxic issue because the papers — it is a toxic issue because the papers wanted to be. we it is a toxic issue because the papers wanted to be. we have to leave it there. _ papers wanted to be. we have to leave it there. we _ papers wanted to be. we have to leave it there. we will _ papers wanted to be. we have to leave it there. we will come - papers wanted to be. we have to j leave it there. we will come back papers wanted to be. we have to i leave it there. we will come back to you, you will have a right to reply in the next edition. moving to the front page of the financial times, zelensky vows ukraine will thwart russia's attacks on power networks. zelensky calling it a war of strength and resilience. what do we learn from this? this is an interview — what do we learn from this? this is an interview they've _ what do we learn from this? this is an interview they've done _ what do we learn from this? this is an interview they've done with - an interview they've done with president zelensky, like every
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interview, it is moving but it is also making you will them on, the great and heroism of that leader and his people against this russian onslaught, it'sjust incredible. in this interview he is talking about the russian missiles, they have taken a new approach which is to bombard ukraine to knock out their power supplies. they are targeting the civilian population and are trying to grind down the resolve and determination. it is an incredible statistic which says that 80% of the country has been plunged into darkness because of that onslaught knocking out the power supplies. president zelensky as ever shows what it means to be a wartime leader facing down a tyrant. he said that
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this makes them more determined than ever to win and he points out that he has to win the war on the battlefield because there is no negotiating with russia. there is no deal that could satisfy vladimir putin. here zelensky —ish showing how rock—solid that resolve is. matthew, things like crime crimea? he says that if anyone can win back crimea _ he says that if anyone can win back crimea without using military he would _ crimea without using military he would love to hear it. crimea is ukraine — would love to hear it. crimea is ukraine and it was stolen by vladimir— ukraine and it was stolen by vladimir putin. if that was attempted to be won back by ukraine, putin could _ attempted to be won back by ukraine, putin could use tactical nuclear weapons — putin could use tactical nuclear weapons. one of the things that
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struck— weapons. one of the things that struck me — weapons. one of the things that struck me was the politics of it. we don't _ struck me was the politics of it. we don't think— struck me was the politics of it. we don't think of this in terms of ukrainian _ don't think of this in terms of ukrainian politics. zelensky is a hero— ukrainian politics. zelensky is a hero but— ukrainian politics. zelensky is a hero but the pistes suggest that if you were — hero but the pistes suggest that if you were to try and do a deal then the ukrainians might throw him out because _ the ukrainians might throw him out because public opinion seems to be behind _ because public opinion seems to be behind the — because public opinion seems to be behind the opinion of driving out the russians. since february, half ofthe _ the russians. since february, half ofthe land — the russians. since february, half of the land that the russians occupied _ of the land that the russians occupied has been won back by ukraine — occupied has been won back by ukraine. they won back kherson a few weeks _ ukraine. they won back kherson a few weeks ago _ ukraine. they won back kherson a few weeks ago. the russian forces have been _ weeks ago. the russian forces have been pummelled on the battlefield and the _ been pummelled on the battlefield and the russians are resorting to bombing — and the russians are resorting to bombing infrastructure and plunging 80% of— bombing infrastructure and plunging 80% of ukraine into darkness. also, without _ 80% of ukraine into darkness. also, without water you can imagine the
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implications. ukraine faces a do or die winter— implications. ukraine faces a do or die winterand i hope implications. ukraine faces a do or die winter and i hope that we will stand _ die winter and i hope that we will stand by— die winter and i hope that we will stand by them.— stand by them. won little detail, the caital stand by them. won little detail, the capital is _ stand by them. won little detail, the capital is water _ stand by them. won little detail, the capital is water supply - stand by them. won little detail, the capital is water supply has i stand by them. won little detail, i the capital is water supply has been cut. some residents are using snow for washing and cooking. we are barely getting started when it comes to winter. if you look at the photo on the front page, a woman is picking through the rubble. those attacks on civilian infrastructure, water, power, reminds us that it is ordinary people that will bear the brunt of this.— brunt of this. exactly. ukrainians see this as _ brunt of this. exactly. ukrainians see this as their _ brunt of this. exactly. ukrainians see this as their war _ brunt of this. exactly. ukrainians see this as their war of _ see this as their war of independence. russia has been trying to dominate the country for to long and they do see this as their do or die moment to face russia down and face their independence. 0ur defence
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editor has spent the past year in ukraine and he did a report for us early in the week which talked about the citizens getting their water from the river. it goes to show the hardship that the country is enduring. remarkable that public support is so high, because they are the ones with something to fight for. ~ . ., the ones with something to fight for. ~ ., for. we will come back to the uk. the front page — for. we will come back to the uk. the front page of _ for. we will come back to the uk. the front page of the _ for. we will come back to the uk. the front page of the guardian. . for. we will come back to the uk. l the front page of the guardian. the picture there of strike disruption. this is a picture of children striking _ this is a picture of children striking in solidarity with teachers in glasgow. much wider strikes are anticipated in the weeks ahead. we are heading into the christmas period — are heading into the christmas period so— are heading into the christmas period so nurses, postal workers. people _ period so nurses, postal workers. people are — period so nurses, postal workers. people are terrified of the idea of
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nurses— people are terrified of the idea of nurses going on strike. i don't know if we _ nurses going on strike. i don't know if we have _ nurses going on strike. i don't know if we have time to go into their arguments on both sides. a whole lot of people _ arguments on both sides. a whole lot of people are going on strike in the build-up— of people are going on strike in the build-up to — of people are going on strike in the build—up to christmas, people who wouldn't _ build—up to christmas, people who wouldn't do so unless they were desperate. we know that we are in a mess— desperate. we know that we are in a mess as _ desperate. we know that we are in a mess as a _ desperate. we know that we are in a mess as a country, whatever the causes. — mess as a country, whatever the causes, brexit, vladimir putin is war, _ causes, brexit, vladimir putin is war. the — causes, brexit, vladimir putin is war, the pandemic, the cost of living _ war, the pandemic, the cost of living crisis— war, the pandemic, the cost of living crisis is really gripping. people — living crisis is really gripping. people are struggling. it is it it is interesting to see how public opinion— is interesting to see how public opinion will come out. people are terrified _ opinion will come out. people are terrified of— opinion will come out. people are terrified of nurses going on strike and care — terrified of nurses going on strike and care in— terrified of nurses going on strike and care in hospitals being reduced. mick lynch — and care in hospitals being reduced. mick lynch was on the air, his union is not _ mick lynch was on the air, his union is not going — mick lynch was on the air, his union is not going on strike and most of us will— is not going on strike and most of us will be — is not going on strike and most of us will be celebrating that. at christmas people want to see their
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families _ christmas people want to see their families. ~ ., christmas people want to see their families. ~ . ., , ., . ,, christmas people want to see their families. ~ . ., .~ ., families. what do you make of the ublic families. what do you make of the public opinion. _ families. what do you make of the public opinion, the _ families. what do you make of the public opinion, the unions - families. what do you make of the public opinion, the unions have . families. what do you make of the i public opinion, the unions have been saying that in polling, the public is supporting them. i saying that in polling, the public is supporting them.— saying that in polling, the public is supporting them. i think we will have a bunch _ is supporting them. i think we will have a bunch of— is supporting them. i think we will have a bunch of strikes, _ is supporting them. i think we will have a bunch of strikes, we - is supporting them. i think we will have a bunch of strikes, we have i is supporting them. i think we will i have a bunch of strikes, we have had train strikes that has affected the overground and the london underground. those are rolling strikes, the unions are leading the troops out over christmas but the week between christmas and new year. the big test, is what will happen this winter if the nurses go on strike. that will be a huge test of public opinion. we don't know where that will land yet. a lot will depend on if they do go on strike, how do they go on strike. is care put at risk, will people blame the nurses union or the government? we will have to see how that comes up.
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theoretically we are staring at a winter with train strikes, postal strikes, teachers on strike, health workers on strike. we haven't seen this kind of situation since the 19805. this kind of situation since the 1980s. public opinion may be sympathetic now because they were absolute heroes in the pandemic and nurses always have a lot of public support. but might that wane if we seek longer ambulance queues and people not being able to get to their appointments. that support can wane and we will have to see. a lot of it comes down to how they will actually strike and the impact that has. ., ., ., , , actually strike and the impact that has. ., , , . ., has. the root of this is inflation, each individual _ has. the root of this is inflation, each individual strike _ has. the root of this is inflation, each individual strike has - has. the root of this is inflation, each individual strike has its i has. the root of this is inflation, | each individual strike has its own
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circumstances but underlying it all is this extraordinary inflation. this is information that we haven't seen _ this is information that we haven't seen for— this is information that we haven't seen for decades. the problem for the government, its our problem as well, _ the government, its our problem as well, we _ the government, its our problem as well, we may have sympathy for these strikes. _ well, we may have sympathy for these strikes. i_ well, we may have sympathy for these strikes. ido. — well, we may have sympathy for these strikes, ido, if well, we may have sympathy for these strikes, i do, if you think of the knock-on— strikes, i do, if you think of the knock—on effects of the postal strikes — knock—on effects of the postal strikes i_ knock—on effects of the postal strikes. i try to go down to the post— strikes. i try to go down to the post office _ strikes. i try to go down to the post office five times and found it closed _ post office five times and found it closed. businesses are a priority, if they— closed. businesses are a priority, if they are — closed. businesses are a priority, if they are unable to do business through— if they are unable to do business through the post office and people are unable to get to work on the trains, _ are unable to get to work on the trains, then that further entrenches our problems. it entrenches the recession— our problems. it entrenches the recession and it is a negative cycle — recession and it is a negative cycle it— recession and it is a negative cycle. it entrenches us in the cost of living _ cycle. it entrenches us in the cost of living crisis. we all have to try and work— of living crisis. we all have to try and work together to support, where we feel— and work together to support, where we feel we _ and work together to support, where we feel we can, if the government can come — we feel we can, if the government can come to — we feel we can, if the government can come to the negotiating table, it absolutely must because the
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