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tv   Oath Keepers  BBC News  December 3, 2022 5:40pm-6:00pm GMT

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he was in a manic mode, and he would do that sometimes. he would sleep for days and then he would just get crazy about something and type for days. you know, reasonable person would probably say, well, i'm going to take my baby and go sit in the living room somewhere. but he would get upset if i tried to do that. i would have to stay in the room with him. so i'm trying to get this poor baby to sleep with this blasting music. and he kept saying, "wait till you see what i wrote." that was the night he typed up the ten orders we will not obey." so he posted it and it may have gone viral by morning. stewart rhodes is the founder of the oath keepers. do you guys have the current firepower to stand up against the federal government, if you people are ordered to do those things? it's the obligation all of us have sworn an oath to support - and defend the constitution. and so what we're calling on active
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duty military and police to do - is to simply stand downi and to refuse to comply with the unlawful orders. oath keepers catapulted from a draft blog post from a guy who's on the verge of being evicted for nonpayment of rent and whose children don't have any food to being a national news figure it's stewart rhodes. stewart rhodes, the founder of oath keepers. and then as time went on and stewart's apocalypse fantasy became more and more prominent, he would begin to turn oath keepers into a roving anti—government private army. we stress in oath keepers military, current serving and law enforcement for a reason.
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because we know that if the day should come in this country when a full— blown dictatorship will come or tyranny, we know that it can only happen if those men, our brothers in arms, go along and comply with unconstitutional unlawful orders. part of me was like, maybe this is a thing that will fix him because he kept saying the reason why he loses his temper, the reason why he's violent, the reason why he acts like this is because he hadn't found his path in life. and i needed to help him find his path and heal him. and then he will stop acting like this. and so part of me thought, well, maybe this will help fix whatever it is. horrified as i was by the coming apocalypse, the potential of oath keepers to mitigate or prevent this was a spot of hope for me. i had a childhood set of body armor. we sporadically attended tactical training, while stewart mocked me
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from the sidelines with his copy for not being a well drilled minuteman. i feel every bit as completely ridiculous wearing this right now as i ever did. i feel a lot of conflict over these guns. i have absolutely no idea whether i like shooting or like being a gun nerd, because every experience that i've had with shooting or firearms—related activity has been some kind of stewart or oath keeper activity and has been thoroughly unpleasant. there had been a gradually growing awareness that my home life was not ok, in particular with stewart getting increasingly unstable when he was at home and seeming to regard me as i got older
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as a rival male in some weird way, like a rival male authority in the household, that had to constantly be kept in check. and i also saw how, especially if the apocalypse was not actually happening, then all of this was pointless. the way we lived was pointless. the plan. it took a solid two years of effort, which is something that anyone should keep in mind. the next time somebody is talking about a domestic abuse case and says, "why didn't they just leave?" two years of planning. it was just so intolerable. it was just, just a dark and depressing existence and very hard to remember that there was life outside of that house. getting out was terrifying,
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heart pounding, adrenaline racing. our plan was to leave early in the morning and, you know, early morning comes and the kids and i are all exchanging glances. and stewartjust went into manic mode. we're on 20 acres in the middle of nowhere. so finally we came up with the idea that we were going to take the old some major appliance we had that was broken and take it to the dump. we also wanted to take a couple of those rifles, you know, to sell. dakota had it in his mind that we should take his favorite rifle, which i think was some type of sniper rifle that he didn't even know how to shoot. like my family's anxiety is ultra spiked because i am taking a risk, but it's a risk that has to be taken if we're going to be able to afford to go through with the divorce. and it's already been filed. when he was focused on something else for a few seconds, just walked up with my mum staring at me the entire time, picked up this rifle, turned around and carried it out the front door, stock folded to make it more compact and just pressed
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against my body like this. so it's concealed in front of me. dakota just walked right past him with that rifle. i had never been so afraid of anything and we all got in the car. and then dakota started to drive off and stewart stopped us just as we were leaving. and i canjust remember seeing the girl's eyes just bug out. a younger siblings all ducked down in the back seat because they are not supposed to be. nobody�*s mentioned them being in the car and i roll down the window expecting that we've been caught and this is about to turn into some kind of car chase. and he said, "pick up some steak on your way back." then that one moment kind of bothered me because ijust saw it almost in a disassociated way ofjust this person, whole life is about to change. he thinks he's going to have a steak dinner with his family tonight
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and everything's going to change. nothing will ever be the same again, from this moment on for him. and that was certainly true. i had a hard time separating. when something bad happens to stewart, something bad happens to me. and so it was... that was a huge part of that fear of emotionally like "he's going to be really upset with this." and just ijust rememberjust kind of sinking to the floor with my arms around my knees thinking "he's going to be so upset." but the days after were almost as bad. we didn't know if he was going to come into the house at night. the dogs bark at something, we think we hear him, think we see him everywhere. i mean, somebody had to stay awake and guard everyone. i had to switch directly from being effectively a basement neet in a pile of trash and tactical gear to accepting full adult
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responsibility and taking on effectively a head of household role under the most stressful conditions possible. i found the time and the mental energy to do everything that i could to make sure that the kids got to soccer games and do children's theatre and after—school activities and get to have to the fullest extent possible all of the normal childhood that i was denied and never going to get back. and all of us veterans who swore that oath until your age, 65, you can be called up as the militia to support and defend the constitution. it is hard to put into words - what exactly we witnessed today because we've not seen this before. we need back—up.
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stewart is on trial for seditious conspiracy. he is looking at roughly 20 years. he is being charged with trying to essentially delay the election and cause mayhem. and i think that the case is pretty good. phone records placed stewart rhodes on the capitol steps on january 6th, communicating with oath keepers before they breached the doors. stewart fundamentally saw the continuing trump administration and trump's staying in power as his best bet. they charge you with seditious conspiracyl as if you planned january 6th. they're trying to hang this on president trump and also on the entire maga movement.
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so they have to manufacture a nonexistent plot, which is absurd, you know. if you look at the people what people did that day, that's not an insurrection. that's a mostly peaceful protest. that's what that really was. i mean, there was no attempt to overthrow the government. it would have looked very differently if that had been the intent that day. that's all i'm going to say. stewart is helping to spin a narrative in direct contradiction of the plainly evident facts, to create a storyline in which he is the martyr he's always wanted to be. i want him to go to prison because it's the only way we're safe. and that's what it means for me. no child support. it also means if i can't get this divorce finalised, i mean, he's being sued by everyone. he's being sued literally for millions of dollars. i could be on the hook for all of that.
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it's a difficult situation all the way around, but it's a much, much better situation with him in prison. i'm safer, the kids are safer and the rest of country is safer with him in prison. byjoining the volunteer fire department, i had... something outside of myself that was not this all encompassing apocalypse myth, for the first time in my life. more than anything else, i saw people who lived up to the endless, empty rhetoric that i was surrounded by growing up, about sacrifice and civil responsibility. i'd heard all of the words at a thousand speaking engagements, and joining the fire department was the first time i'd ever seen anyone live it. the threat of stewart being able to rebuild his following certainly weighs
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on my mind. stewart based his entire identity, especially in founding oath keepers, around this idea of service to the united states constitution, standing up against all enemies, foreign and domestic. and i don't believe in rhetoric any more. and i believe that any promise is only as good as the intent behind it. hello there. over the last few days, the temperatures have been falling. it's felt a lot colder than it has done of late.
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and then, in fact, as we head into the middle part of this upcoming week, we could be looking at the coldest spell of the season so far, with an arctic northerly, which could bring a great chance of snow across many northern areas and widespread hard overnight frost. before we reach that point, though, we're in the cold air, but not bitterly cold air. it's coming in from the east, quite a brisk easterly wind which, when you factor in the wind with these sorts of temperatures, then it will feel quite bitter. and these showers will continue to feed into north sea coastal areas during the course of sunday, a few into eastern parts of northern ireland. otherwise, some sunshine for the north—west, and western fringes of england and wales should see a little bit of brightness here and there, but it will be a cold day. like i mentioned, we've got highs of 5 to 7 degrees. factor in the wind, that easterly wind — particularly across england and wales — it'll feel colder than that. as we head into monday, subtle changes. i think the winds become a little bit lighter across england and wales and they'll be coming in from a more north—easterly direction. they're still feeding in a few
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showers across the north sea coast. elsewhere, a lot of dry weather around. best of the sunshine towards the west. and i think the winds are a little bit lighter. should feel a bit warmer. i think a degree or so up, we're up to highs of eight or nine degrees in places. still, close to the north sea coast, around five or six degrees. then we start to see some changes as we head deeper into the new week. higher pressure builds across greenland, lower pressure across scandinavia. that allows a northerly airflow to develop between the pressure systems and it's going to drag down arctic air across the country. so it really will start to turn much colder as we move through the day on tuesday. certainly, the northern half of the country, where any showers moving in will be increasingly wintry, with the chance of some settling snow across the north highlands there. certainly over the higher ground, but even down to lower levels as well by the end of tuesday. to the south, there'll be some sunny spells around and one or two showers perhaps. it isn't until we reach wednesday, with this cold front spreading south across the country, then we're really into the cold srctic air. you can see the blue colours right
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across the uk on wednesday. and this wind will be quite a feature across the far north, so that'll add the wind chill to the temperature. and there'll be frequent snow showers across the north of scotland, the northern isles, significant accumulations of snow in places, even down to lower levels. and a few snow showers affecting coastal areas, particularly down the north sea coast. but central southern areas, it will be bright, with some sunshine, but it's going to be a cold day. temperatures in low single digits. factor in the wind, it'll feel colder than those temperatures suggest. as we head into thursday, a chance of an area of low pressure moving in across the north of the uk. that may enhance the sleet and snow showers across scotland. some of these snow showers getting in towards northern ireland, perhaps running into the irish sea, affecting north wales, perhaps in towards north—west england, the cheshire gap. so we could see sleet and snow showers pretty much anywhere in the north and the west. again, central southern areas in the best of the sunshine, but it will be another very cold day. as we move towards the end of this upcoming week and then into the following weekend, it does look like we're
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staying in the cold air. mass areas of low pressure loitering around could enhance sleet and snow activity at times, but at this far out, it's a little bit uncertain to the details of these areas of low pressure. but i think one things for certain, for the upcoming week and beyond, it looks like we're staying in the cold air mass. it really will be cold, overnight frost and increasing chance of snow, particularly across northern areas.
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