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subsection four a, to section 51 subsection four 3, which requires that the to section 51 subsection four a, which requires that the court is satisfied, amongst other things, but it is in the interests ofjustice to make the direction. the interest of justice in a criminal case are frequently subject to the interest of the defendant. respect for the law must be genuine and effective, substantial and real. the lord chief justice has provided the court with guidance which must be considered alongside all the circumstances of the case. in particular, factors which are set out in section 51 subsection six of the cja. one of those factors is the need for the defendant to attend in person. paragraph nine of the guidance invites attention to such factors as the potential penalty to be imposed and in paragraph 18, whether a live
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link would risk damaging international relations so as to be contrary to the interests of justice. when sentence is to be imposed for an offence that involves a fatality there must be a strong public interest in the offender being before the court in person, in other words, a need for the defendant to attend in person. as will become apparent, i concluded provisionally and subject to heeding the submissions in mitigation today, that the barrier presenting to your adherence to the guidance given to you by your government employee was relevant to my decision and it would not interfere with the due administration ofjustice given the sentence i was likely to impose. the alternatives would have been to withdraw your bail if you had not attended today, the result would have been a warrant for your arrest
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which would have been extant until executed or withdrawn. the issuing of a warrant would have been close to an empty gesture and it would stall progress in this case. another option open to the court would have been to conduct a sentence in your absence as you are represented by counsel and the court has material upon which to proceed. it would have been perverse to refuse this video link in these circumstances and on the 5th of december i granted the application which remained a joint one by the defence and prosecution. in an eloquent impact statement, charlotte charles, harry dunn's mother has expressed her sorrow at not being able to comfort her son as he lay on the side of the road or in hospital. she is full of regret. her other son,
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hospital. she is full of regret. her otherson, harry's hospital. she is full of regret. her other son, harry's twin, feels emptiness. the deep suffering of the entire family at the unusual course of events i have outlined has generated the persistence that she and harry's father have shown. she wants justice for her son as she promised him. although they have been left with a gaping hole, the family is determined to provide a legacy for him in projects to help others. who are you, answer clueless? you are a citizen of the united states of america —— and happily married with children of your own aged seven, nine and 1a years. you accompanied your husband having arrived a few weeks before the accident. you had been socialising on the base on the 27th of august. with your husband and
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children. he left the base before you and according to the material before me you chose to drive home the way he did even though you are less familiar than another route you knew. you have express your condolences through a statement read by counsel on your behalf at the ceiling. causing death by dangerous driving contrary to section to be of the road safety act can be committed in various ways. sometimes a moment's inattention can lead to tragic results. this is not such a case. you drove along the wrong side of the road for much more than a moment. and you did not realise what you are doing even when you came to a bend on a road when all drivers on a bend on a road when all drivers on a natural carriageway would naturally check they were driving
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safely. it seems to me your conduct albeit careless rather than deliberate falls at the other extreme, taking everything into account, your behaviour on this occasion was not far short of deliberately dangerous driving which results in a death. i bear in mind this was a short of driving and you are not familiar with english roots. the sentencing council guideline places the starting point for sentence for your fence at 15 months custody. the range it provides is nine months— three years custody. the death of harry dunn is of course the highest degree of harm. but that is inherent in the charge in the starting point of 15 months. there are none of the aggravating features that may appear in some such cases, for example, you were not driving
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uninsured. there is mitigation in your case. in particular, you are not compelled to submit yourself to this charge. and these proceedings, but have chosen to do so. you had only limited experience of driving in this country. you offered assistance to harry dunn at the scene and have never denied responsibility for his death. other features shut shows the short time you drove before the collision also alleviate the gravity to a degree. you are to be treated as of good character apart from two minor driving matters in 1997 and 2006, both of which resulted in fines. anyone who has caused death by driving would be expected to feel remorseful. but remorse is important for sentencing purposes and i accept
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you felt and feel genuine morse. these features require a reduction in the starting point and i allow three months. you indicated a guilty plea to this offence in the magistrates' court and entered that plea at the first opportunity in the crown court. the law requires a one third discount to recognise this. the shortest term of imprisonment commensurate with the seriousness of the offence is therefore eight months imprisonment. it follows that the offence is so serious that neither a final loan or community sentence can be justified for it. imprisonment must always be the last resort. your offence passes the custody threshold as i have indicated but before deciding no alternative is appropriate i have considered whether that can be
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avoided. i ordered a presentence report at the last hearing. you will have seen that report. the author has provided me with a great deal of useful information about you. and she has consulted senior officers and officials at his majesty's prisons and probation service. however the author concludes with no recommendation to the court and state that her inquiries do not reveal any practical way in which a form of community sentence or any other non—custodial disposal imposed by this court could be managed in the united states of america. it is obvious no enforcement can be carried out and no breach of an order could be prosecuted effectively while you remained abroad. equally, no restorative justice process can take place exceptin justice process can take place except in person. i am grateful to the probation service for the inquiries they have made. council on
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your behalf has submitted sentence should be deferred and you would arrange to do some form of voluntary work in recompense. i do not consider that there is any purpose in deferring sentence, as the presentence report makes clear you are not someone who needs rehabilitation. you need to be sentenced and both you and the family of harry dunn can move on. if our to impose family of harry dunn can move on. if ourto impose an family of harry dunn can move on. if our to impose an immediate custodial sentence you would be unlawfully at large thereafter. i would order you to return to the united kingdom to serve it. the sentence would be put into effect if and when you enter the jurisdiction and surrendered to a police station. before doing so i have considered whether it is possible to suspend the sentence. you have the strong personal mitigation i have already summarised. you are also a mother of young children who would suffer disproportionate harm from your
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immediate imprisonment and i am satisfied that appropriate punishment can be achieved without immediate custody. please stand up. you are disqualified from driving for 12 months for the offence of causing the death of harry dunn are your careless driving, the sentence is eight months imprisonment, suspended for 12 months. there will be no additional requirements. the sentence means that if in the next 12 months you commit any offence, whether or not it is of the same type for which i am sentencing you today, you would find yourself before the court again and it's likely that the sentence would be brought into operation either in full or in part. thank you very much. you may sit down.
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that was thejudge that was the judge there at the old bailey just that was the judge there at the old baileyjust passing sentence on anne sacoolas, the american citizen who caused the death of harry dunn who was 19, three years ago by careless driving. eight months suspended for 12 months and disqualification for 12 months and disqualification for 12 months and disqualification for 12 months as well. the judge saying that there were strong mitigating circumstances, not least that anne sacoolas is the mother of young children. to remind you, the background to the case, the citizen of the united states anne sacoolas sentenced over the death of the teenager harry dunn. 45 years old, anne sacoolas pleaded guilty in october to causing harry dunn's death by careless driving. joining us live now is robin brant, who's outside the old bailey.
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we saw thejudge's we saw the judge's sentencing remarks and anne sacoolas was appealing by video link not in person as a family would have wanted but by video link? you person as a family would have wanted but by video link?— but by video link? you heard the words of the _ but by video link? you heard the words of the justice _ but by video link? you heard the words of the justice sentencing l but by video link? you heard the - words of the justice sentencing anne sacoolas to eight months in prison, 12 monthsjust sacoolas to eight months in prison, 12 months just convocation from driving as well, but that sentence and this is the crucial part of it, suspended for a 12 month period. what started out on 8pm of the evening of the 27th of august 2019, has now ended here as the sun begins to go down outside the old bailey on the 8th of december 2022. it has been frankly tragic for absolutely everyone involved. from the very beginning, anne sacoolas and we had in a statement read by the prosecution in court number one little earlier, she admitted what
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she had done. it was my fault, she told the police. i was stupid. she said she did not realise she was driving on the wrong of the road. the american side of the road as she referred to it, for 350 metres up to 26 seconds after she left the raf base just before she got to a rise in the road and a bend on that country road and harry dunn was coming round the corner and he went straight into her. he was thrust onto the front of her volvo, the windscreen, over the car, and he landed on the road behind her. his bike cut fire and he sustained devastating injuries. at one point, we heard that he had told anne sacoolas, do not let me die. that did not happen. he did dilator at those injuries at thejohn radcliffe hospital. what we have now is the
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end of the legal proceedings here. we have the eight month custodial sentence. that is somewhere in the middle of what the sentencing guidelines recommend. it starts out with a community service order and goes up to three years in prison. i think the key thing now is that the justice that harry dunn's family wanted to see in an extremely moving victim impact statement that was read by charlotte george before sentencing earlier in the court, i sat with other members of the media and saw her. it was very upsetting to watch, she herself was upset throughout, she described how their life has basically stopped. hours and that of her ex—husband and harry's win. it was very, very upsetting to listen to her it was described by the judges upsetting to listen to her it was described by thejudges being eloquent. she has said how she promised harry that she would get
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justice and no mother ever breaks a promise, she told the court. the key thing now is, is that sentence enough? is that the justice for the family? it is a custodial sentence. in theory, anne sacoolas faces the prospect of jail in theory, anne sacoolas faces the prospect ofjail for in theory, anne sacoolas faces the prospect of jail for what she in theory, anne sacoolas faces the prospect ofjail for what she did. even though has been suspended. of course she is not here. she has not been here since the 15th of september 2019. we now learn that the us government, her employer, has advised her that if she was to return to the uk and trace this legal proceeding that would place significant us interests at risk. that's the most information we have ever heard about speculation about herjob ever heard about speculation about her job and ever heard about speculation about herjob and may be that of her husband as well, the reason they were working at raf croton, the reason she was leaving the race in the first place was because she may have been in of the us intelligence agencies. i think we are going to
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hearfrom harry's mother and father possibly later when they come out from the court. i suspect they well be grant glad to see a custodial sentence will have been passed but the reality is anne sacoolas will never pass that sentence because she is never coming back to this country. is never coming back to this count . ~ , ., ., country. we will be hearing from the famil and country. we will be hearing from the family and the _ country. we will be hearing from the family and the judge _ country. we will be hearing from the family and the judge said _ country. we will be hearing from the family and the judge said in - country. we will be hearing from the family and the judge said in the - family and the judge said in the sentencing remarks about the family's deep suffering. how it had been three years of heartbreak but to summarise, anne sacoolas the american citizen sentenced to eight months in prison but suspended 12 months in prison but suspended 12 months and disqualified for driving from 12 months. we will bring you reaction from harry dunn's family as soon as we get that.
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prince harry has said he sacrificed everything he knows tojoin meghan in her world, in the first episodes of a docu—series about the duke and duchess of sussex, released by the streaming service netflix this morning. he also said that meghan had sacrificed everything she ever knew and the freedom that she had tojoin him. life in the royal family, press intrusion and racism are among the topics they discuss. prince harry and meghan no longer receive money from the royal family, and the couple earn much of their income from commercial arrangements. our royal correspondent sarah campbell reports. she sacrificed everything that she ever knew, the freedom that she had, tojoin me in my world. and then pretty soon after that, i ended up sacrificing everything that i know tojoin her in her world. their story in their words. almost three hours of interviews,
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home videos and footage. the level of hate that has been stirred up in the last three years, especially against my wife and my son. this is my mum outside with archie. i am genuinely concerned for the safety of my family. these first three episodes document the events which led up to the couple stepping back from the royal family. they detail how they met and fell in love. and what that meant for meghan�*s life. so i would say to the police, "if any other women in toronto said to you, 'i have six grown men who are sleeping in their cars around my house and following everywhere i go and i feel scared,�* wouldn't you say it was stalking?" and they said, "yes, but there is really nothing we can do because of who you are dating." there are interviews with friends and meghan's family, including her mother. i felt unsafe a lot. i can't just walk my dogs, i can't just go to work. i there was a someone there waiting for me, following me to work. - i was being stalked by the paparazzi. . and glimpses of private moments with members of the royal family, including the first meeting
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with catherine, the now—princess of wales. iwas a hugger, i have always been a hugger, i didn't realise that that is really jarring for a lot of brits. i guess i started to understand very quickly that the formality on the outside carried through on the inside. much of the docuseries so far focuses on the couple's struggles with the media and the reaction from other members of the royal family. it is almost like a rite of passage and some members of the family are like, "right, but my wife had to go through that, so why should your girlfriend be treated any differently? why should you get special treatment, why should she be protected ? " and i said, "the difference here is the race element."
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as expected diana, harry's mother, is referenced several times, including the now discredited panorama interview which prince william requested never be shown again, but is shown in his brother's documentary. i think we all now know she was deceived into giving the interview, but at the same time, she spoke the truth of her experience. joining us now is the author and therapist mandy saligari, whose also a parenting and relationships expert you know a bit about families. is this going to add fuel to the tensions there already are in the royal family and particularly between the brothers william and harry? between the brothers william and har ? ., , ~' , harry? hello. yes, quite likely. when there _ harry? hello. yes, quite likely. when there is _ harry? hello. yes, quite likely. when there is already - harry? hello. yes, quite likely. | when there is already something harry? hello. yes, quite likely. - when there is already something of difficulty or argument going on,
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when people take positions, and try to enforce their perspective or point of view such as may be doing a netflix series, something of that place, it means the other side often reinforces their position. sadly, standing upfor reinforces their position. sadly, standing up for yourself or trying to represent yourself not to the people involved but to other people, can reinforce the rift or argument. in terms of reinforcing the argument, harry and meghan are doing argument, harry and meghan are doing a six part netflix series followed by a book. which we have been told is going to be pretty explosive. we don't know, we have not had any bombshell renovations so far. what you think the rest of the royal family's reaction is going to be and what should be? ital? family's reaction is going to be and what should be?— what should be? italy difficult. i would be speculating, _ what should be? italy difficult. i would be speculating, i- what should be? italy difficult. i would be speculating, i am - what should be? italy difficult. i would be speculating, i am notl
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would be speculating, i am not buying clothes stores but i have been behind the closed doors and i know that if people in the position of harry and meghan said they are going out there to give their perspective, their point of view, their story, perspective, their point of view, theirstory, not perspective, their point of view, their story, not to the family, but to anotherjudge and jury, in this case the general public, perhaps rallying public support may be splitting public opinion. that would reflect what happens in many families. which is we end up with two different opinions. if you do not go to the people you are arguing with and talk to people around the people you might be arguing with or have a different perspective to, then yes, that will reinforce, that will be very likely to reinforce the difficulties. when i think about the responses in the royal house, i imagine there will be a deep sigh about may be trouble coming. airing
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your dirty linen in public, it is not dirty linen, it's a love story, i get that. but there is something about doing it very separately to the rest of the family. saying this is our perspective, our point of view, when everybody gives their view, when everybody gives their view, their story, it is wise to be mindful that you are also part of a family whatever family letters. lots fa m ily whatever fa m ily letters. lots of family whatever family letters. lots of individuals have their own story within families but it is wise to remember, it is kind to remember that you also belong to a wider setting, a family setting and there may be implications. i have no idea if they discussed it with the family or not but i think they should have done. inaudible
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a&e units across the uk are under serious pressure. it's not good. all laid in trolleys like this. from this hospital in york... ambulance staff are waiting with their patients to come to the emergency department cubicles, which are currently full. to the royal victoria in belfast. to these corridors in milton keynes. i've just spoken to the nurses. they've just asked us just to wait in the queue - until they have space available. doctors say they're most concerned about the sickest patients who need to be moved on from the emergency department to another ward of the hospital, for surgery or more complex treatment. near record numbers are now stuck in a&e for hours until a free bed can be found, partly because hospitals are struggling to discharge patients into social care. if your hospital is full, and more than 19 out of 20 of our beds are full at the moment, that means that it's very challenging for emergency departments to transfer patients
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from the emergency department onto the wards, and that, of course, increases waiting times. you've had a few days of the treatment. you've had some rehabilitation. how's it feeling now? well, it's feeling 0k, really, - until i stand up and have to use it. those long waits in a&e are a big risk for the most vulnerable. in surrey, 90—year—old pat is recovering after falling and breaking her pelvis. with the physiotherapist this morning, did you manage the session? yes. i had to have assistance to get on the bed. - when she got to a&e, a specialist team sent her straight to a bed here in a designated unit for the most frail, so she wouldn't have to wait in pain. someone like pat, it was really key that we could identify her needs very early on, which were around managing her pain, which were around managing her bone health and some of her breathing problems. and it's because of that and the early identification and early work with her that she's now able to actually return home. well, it was a shock, i of course, but it does,
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shakes you up, doesn't it? i've got over it really now. it's the anticipation i of when you go home, how are you going to cope? the frailty wards and the team next door in the acute medical centre in epsom are both designed to take the pressure off a&e. the idea is that more complex cases are sent here quickly for treatment before either being referred to specialists or ideally sent home to free up the bed. we don't want anyone to stay in hospital any longer than they need to, but we know that with an elderly population, to make sure that happens, it needs a whole team effort. we can'tjust continue working the way we've historically worked. the government has said there is more money to improve a&e performance in england, but with colder weather on its way and rates of flu are also rising, hospitals are bracing for a busy winter. jim reed, bbc news.
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sorry if you could not hear me in the lead up to that introduction to that report but we have got our seven problems fixed. that report but we have got our seven problems fixed. victoria bourne is in ilford at king george's hospital. what is the picture there? it is related here, _ what is the picture there? it is related here, it— what is the picture there? it is related here, it has _ what is the picture there? it 3 related here, it has been a steady stream of ambulances arriving all day. full of people waiting to go in to get some emergency treatment. to give you a picture of what the ideas like we had new figures released this morning, not every trust released data but the one which runs king, they recorded one of the worst performances on waiting on a&e outside of the main a&e in the country. only 29.8% of patients are either admitted, transferred or discharged within four hours here.
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the target is 95%. most people have told me that they have become accustomed to, it has deemed drilled into them, they will have a long wait if they do come to a&e. into them, they will have a long wait if they do come to me. thank ou ve wait if they do come to me. thank you very much _ wait if they do come to me. thank you very much indeed. _ now it's time for a look at the weather. it is cold, it has been a very cold day whenever you have been that many have been compensated with lovely wintry sunshine. it stays cold for the next few days into the weekend, snowshoe was generally affecting coastal areas and this is where we see icy stretches overnight, expecting sharp severe overnight frost. coastal areas will see the showers, central areas stay dry. this patchy cloud will affect east anglia. don't be surprised seeing the odd snow flurry in the
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south—east in the morning but a very cold night to come. moral cold and frosty start but affecting coastal areas once again, many places will see the sunshine into the afternoon. another cold day. colder than that around coastal areas. cold into the weekend. sunshine around but increasing chance of freezing fog patches through saturday night into sunday. see you later. we are going to go back to the old bailey where anne sacoolas the american citizen has been sentenced to eight months injail suspended for a has been sentenced to eight months in jail suspended for a year. for causing the death by dangerous driving of harry dunn the 19—year—old three years ago. he was a 19 euros motorcyclist hit by her vehicle when showers driving on the wrong side of the road. thejudge
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hasjust sentenced her, given her that suspended sentence, eight months in prison but suspended for a year and disqualified from driving for a year as well. those factors is the need for the defendant to attend in person. we are expecting a reaction from harry dunn's family and we are going to get that any moment outside the old bailey where those microphones are in moments and we will be pinning that he live as soon as we get that and i'm sure we will be hearing from the foreign secretary james cleverly that he hoped the judgment in this case provides some closure to harry dunn's family. he also says the government has learned important lessons from exemptions from diplomatic immunity as you will remember anne sacoolas who was working as an american base near the scene of that accident had claimed diplomatic immunity and left britain for the united states very shortly at that incident and that collision
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in which harry dunn died and in fact she has appeared for sentencing today for the video link if she didn't appear today for the video link if she didn'tappear in today for the video link if she didn't appear in person and her family said they were incredibly disappointed that she didn't appear in person but she did appear by video link. let's go back to the respondent who has been covering the case for robin brant and we're expecting to hear from case for robin brant and we're expecting to hearfrom harry case for robin brant and we're expecting to hear from harry dunn's family any moment now and i will be interesting to see their reaction to their suspended sentence and i think these are the family now so why do we just listening straightaway? —— why don't we just listen in straightaway?— why don't we just listen in straiahtawa ? . ., , straightaway? 0k, we are ready. closer to the _ straightaway? 0k, we are ready. closer to the microphone. - straightaway? 0k, we are ready. closer to the microphone. good l closer to the microphone. good afternoon everybody. we have just come out of what has to be one of the most extraordinary legal cases
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in english history. it isjust absolutely incredible. ijust want to just, absolutely incredible. ijust want tojust, again, paid tribute to absolutely incredible. ijust want to just, again, paid tribute to the coverage of the heirs. we all heard what thejudge said. coverage of the heirs. we all heard what the judge said. a calm, dignified persistent manner in which they've campaigned forjustice for their son and i think is unprecedented and i am just in all of them. in terms of the sentence, it was pretty much everything that we expected. mrs anne sacoolas i think was trying to persuade the court that she should be allowed to do some sort of community service or scrub toilets, clean graffiti. that is not how we do things after the death of somebody in criminal circumstances and i want to pay tribute also to this is just doing an outstanding job in behalf of our
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legal system and our country. just finally for me i hand over to my son who is one of harry dunn's childhood friends and wants to say a few words as well before we take questions. look, our real enemy here is not mrs anne sacoolas. we know she made a mistake that last night and i dare say all of us and everybody watching at home has made mistakes on the road. we know she didn't intend to kill harry. our real enemy here is the us government. who, after having's death, instead of coming to do the right thing for his family coming to kick them in the stomach and continuing to kick them in the stomach for three years. and if it weren't for their friends, their community and you guys in the media and great british and american public and millions of people in the world helping us they would have got away with it. well, they didn't get away with it. well, they didn't get away with it today. we have all heard the judges criticisms of the us government. the cowardly approach
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for ensuring judgment is done here is appalling and i don't think i understand why the americans have behaved this way but as i going to tell you we finish this part of the campaign today and we are absolutely determined to make sure this never happens to the british family again. thank you, i set.— thank you, i set. thank you for bein: thank you, i set. thank you for being here- _ thank you, i set. thank you for being here- i— thank you, i set. thank you for being here. i grew— thank you, i set. thank you for being here. i grew up - thank you, i set. thank you for being here. i grew up with - thank you, i set. thank you for| being here. i grew up with have thank you, i set. thank you for i being here. i grew up with have a smooth _ being here. i grew up with have a smooth nursery, secondary and primary— smooth nursery, secondary and primary school. harry was a great person _ primary school. harry was a great person who — primary school. harry was a great person who was very caring and was driving _ person who was very caring and was driving on _ person who was very caring and was driving on the right side of the vote — driving on the right side of the vote the _ driving on the right side of the vote. the way the us covenant has treated _ vote. the way the us covenant has treated this — vote. the way the us covenant has treated this family with utter disdain _ treated this family with utter disdain. overfamily wanted treated this family with utter disdain. over family wanted to do an old charlotte was interested in was to give _ old charlotte was interested in was to give an — old charlotte was interested in was to give an apology and a mere explanation of what happened. you never _ explanation of what happened. you never wanted to take anne sacoolas away from _ never wanted to take anne sacoolas away from her kids and a message to the us— away from her kids and a message to the us government from the younger generation— the us government from the younger generation is you are not our
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friend — generation is you are not our friend. this is not how allies treat one another. this has turned into a massive _ one another. this has turned into a massive international dispute. but i've spent— massive international dispute. but i've spent time with the family every— i've spent time with the family every day— i've spent time with the family every day and what we have to go through _ every day and what we have to go through on— every day and what we have to go through on a daily basis is awful and unacceptable but this is not an isolated _ and unacceptable but this is not an isolated incident. the us government are treating _ isolated incident. the us government are treating many families around the world — are treating many families around the world like this, as much as they try and _ the world like this, as much as they try and hide — the world like this, as much as they try and hide it and i would just encourage you to watch this state is me and _ encourage you to watch this state is me and my— encourage you to watch this state is me and my team will focus on exposing _ me and my team will focus on exposing and fighting them on every corner— exposing and fighting them on every corner -- _ exposing and fighting them on every corner -- to — exposing and fighting them on every corner —— to watch this space. thank you very— corner —— to watch this space. thank you very much _ corner —— to watch this space. thank you very much. we corner -- to watch this space. thank you very much-— corner -- to watch this space. thank you very much. we are happy to take as many questions _ you very much. we are happy to take as many questions for _ you very much. we are happy to take as many questions for the _ you very much. we are happy to take as many questions for the parents i you very much. we are happy to take as many questions for the parents as j as many questions for the parents as we like. we've got a bit of time. lisa, that you want step forward? report —— how are you feeling? jab report -- how are you feeling? job done. report —— how are you feeling? job done. properly complete now. anne sacoolas has a criminal record for
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the rest of her life. they will move thatis the rest of her life. they will move that is something he was government never thought they would say and we have worked tirelessly and relentlessly to make sure that she, in the end, still had to do what you and i would have had to have done so, yes, harry, we've done a! and we are good. just that we've done it and we are good. we would have been happy with anything. and we are good. we would have been happy with anything-— happy with anything. we've never been invested _ happy with anything. we've never been invested in _ happy with anything. we've never been invested in what _ happy with anything. we've never been invested in what the - happy with anything. we've never been invested in what the judge l happy with anything. we've never i been invested in what the judge was going to hand down. froze, it was just all about doing the right thing, getting to the ukjustice system and done. if anne sacoolas said she would meet with you and that would help how do you feel about that? to with you and that would help how do you feel about that?— you feel about that? to much, too little, too late. _ you feel about that? to much, too little, too late. job _ you feel about that? to much, too little, too late. job is _ you feel about that? to much, too little, too late. job is done - you feel about that? to much, too little, too late. job is done now. i little, too late. job is done now. if you want to do the right and give us the beginning. we have waited
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four years and then put the torch and then try to do the right thing when it is going to make you look good, that is not what we want. i have reached out an olive branch to the many, many times and never once has it been accepted and, you know, look, it is up to the parents. we move forward now. she will have to live with what she's done and the way that they have treated this family for the rest of their lives. we have to live without harry. our conscience is clear and, yeah... umpire: hit conscience is clear and, yeah... umpire: , ., . conscience is clear and, yeah... umpire: _, . umpire: in your victim impact statement. — umpire: in your victim impact statement, what _ umpire: in your victim impact statement, what it _ umpire: in your victim impact statement, what it is - umpire: in your victim impact statement, what it is done - umpire: in your victim impact statement, what it is done to | umpire: in your victim impact i statement, what it is done to you umpire: in your victim impact - statement, what it is done to you as a family? _ statement, what it is done to you as a family? reallym _ statement, what it is done to you as a family? really... broken- statement, what it is done to you as a family? really... broken nose. - statement, what it is done to you as a family? really... broken nose. ——| a family? really... broken nose. —— reatly— a family? really... broken nose. —— really broken — a family? really... broken nose. —— really broken us. _ a family? really... broken nose. —— really broken us. everything - a family? really... broken nose. —— really broken us. everything i- a family? really... broken nose. —— really broken us. everything i said l really broken us. everything i said in that— really broken us. everything i said in that statement _ really broken us. everything i said in that statement is _ really broken us. everything i said in that statement is 100% - really broken us. everything i said in that statement is 100% true, i really broken us. everything i said i in that statement is 100% true, you know, _ in that statement is 100% true, you know. and — in that statement is 100% true, you know. and some _ in that statement is 100% true, you know, and some. you _ in that statement is 100% true, you know, and some. you can - in that statement is 100% true, you know, and some. you can never- in that statement is 100% true, you | know, and some. you can never put into words— know, and some. you can never put into words how— know, and some. you can never put into words how bad _
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know, and some. you can never put into words how bad things _ know, and some. you can never put into words how bad things are. i know, and some. you can never put into words how bad things are. butl into words how bad things are. but you have _ into words how bad things are. but you have to— into words how bad things are. but you have to keep _ into words how bad things are. but you have to keep going. _ into words how bad things are. but you have to keep going. you - into words how bad things are. but you have to keep going. you can'tl you have to keep going. you can't -ive you have to keep going. you can't give up _ you have to keep going. you can't give up irte— you have to keep going. you can't i ive u . _ . ., ., you have to keep going. you can't rive u.~ ., .,, ., you have to keep going. you can't hiveu_. ., .,, ., ., give up. we have to show nile and the other children _ give up. we have to show nile and the other children that _ give up. we have to show nile and the other children that actually, i give up. we have to show nile and | the other children that actually, do you know what? we can live our lives again somehow. we have got to try and figure out how we do that. we have all got therapy and everything in place and we are hoping that with an awful lot of help around us including ourfamily and an awful lot of help around us including our family and friends that we will get there and we will do it and ourfamily that we will get there and we will do it and our family and friends have been extremely affected as well and they are all quite a few family and friends as well who were pretty polly to after having watched a betis has devastated many lives, not just the parents and the siblings —— we were pretty poorly. it was hell. i knew i wasn't going to be able to do it without breaking. but it had
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to be done. it had to be done. how do you feel? i’m to be done. it had to be done. how do you feel?— do you feel? i'm still in shock, i think. do you feel? i'm still in shock, i think- i'm _ do you feel? i'm still in shock, i think. i'm still— do you feel? i'm still in shock, i think. i'm still processing i do you feel? i'm still in shock, i think. i'm still processing how l do you feel? i'm still in shock, i i think. i'm still processing how we -ot think. i'm still processing how we got to— think. i'm still processing how we got to the — think. i'm still processing how we got to the stage. within right to make _ got to the stage. within right to make fighting for the last four years — make fighting for the last four years. again if it is really sunk in yet _ years. again if it is really sunk in yet it— years. again if it is really sunk in yet it has— years. again if it is really sunk in yet. it has been such a battle, such a relentless — yet. it has been such a battle, such a relentless time and actually today is the _ a relentless time and actually today is the day— a relentless time and actually today is the day that has been decided and noiustice _ is the day that has been decided and nojustice has been passed on sentence _ nojustice has been passed on sentence has been passed we have fought _ sentence has been passed we have fought off — sentence has been passed we have fought off in everything you can and i am fought off in everything you can and lam immensely fought off in everything you can and i am immensely proud of this family and thank— i am immensely proud of this family and thank you all of you for supporting us in this momentous day. it has _ supporting us in this momentous day. it has been _ supporting us in this momentous day. it has been such an emotional
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statement. it has been such an emotional statement-— it has been such an emotional statement. , ., ., , , ,, statement. oh, my goodness me. she should have been _ statement. oh, my goodness me. she should have been there. _ statement. oh, my goodness me. she should have been there. we _ statement. oh, my goodness me. she should have been there. we would i should have been there. we would have been. i think it is despicable that she didn't come over on the judges orders. yes, huge. each cupboard. you know, we had an option at the beginning of all of this to take things lying down and to have have a's life swept aside or stand and fight and face every hurdle but we have tojump and fight and face every hurdle but we have to jump over many, and fight and face every hurdle but we have tojump over many, many times in the last three years, three months. we weren't cowards. we didn't back away from the us government or the uk government in the beginning. we didn't back down because we have values. maybe she doesn't. this because we have values. maybe she doesn't. �* . . because we have values. maybe she doesn't. r . . , because we have values. maybe she doesn't. �* , . ., , , ., because we have values. maybe she doesn't. �* , . ., , ., , doesn't. as a family, you have been throu~h doesn't. as a family, you have been through so — doesn't. as a family, you have been through so much. _ doesn't. as a family, you have been through so much. going _ doesn't. as a family, you have been through so much. going to - doesn't. as a family, you have been through so much. going to the i doesn't. as a family, you have been | through so much. going to the white house. how'd you on that? it is auoin to house. how'd you on that? it is going to take — house. how'd you on that? it is going to take as _ house. how'd you on that? it is going to take as an _ house. how'd you on that? it 3 going to take as an awful long time
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to sink everything in. you know, with the campaign were going along at the pace that it has done, you don't get time in between to merely reflect on the fact you've just got back from a face he was president trump at the time. you don't get any time to reflect on wanting to the next either because it is on the next either because it is on the next one, the next part of the next zone another next travel to or manchester or whatever just zone another next travel to or manchester or whateverjust met zone another next travel to or manchester or whatever just met the next zoom meeting or the next travel to london or manchester or whatever. there was a time to rest. we are going to leave our campaign in the hands of brad and isaac. we will be behind them 100%. we will publish ears pop up in many cases over the coming months and possibly years to make sure this never happens to another family ever again, make sure this never happens to anotherfamily ever again, certainly another family ever again, certainly in anotherfamily ever again, certainly in this country. that was also our number one aim alongside getting justice for harry. so, yes, just
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watch this space. we are going to continue to work to make was of us like we have. continue to work to make was of us like we have-— like we have. when he heard the explanation _ like we have. when he heard the explanation of _ like we have. when he heard the explanation of why _ like we have. when he heard the explanation of why she - like we have. when he heard the explanation of why she didn't i like we have. when he heard the i explanation of why she didn't come, what was in your head? the explanation of why she didn't come, what was in your head?— what was in your head? the us government — what was in your head? the us government again _ what was in your head? the us government again the - what was in your head? the us government again the same i what was in your head? the us government again the same asj what was in your head? the us i government again the same as her despicable, really. how on earth can they treat what is meant to be one of their closest allies in this way? you know, absolutely disgusted. i'm disgusted. film; you know, absolutely disgusted. i'm disausted. �* , ., disgusted. any other questions? , what ou disgusted. any other questions? , what you have _ disgusted. any other questions? , what you have always _ disgusted. any other questions? , what you have always wanted i disgusted. any other questions? , what you have always wanted as l what you have always wanted as harry's inquest. ? it is what you have always wanted as harry's inquest. ?_ harry's inquest. ? it is going to take as a _ harry's inquest. ? it is going to take as a markdown _ harry's inquest. ? it is going to take as a markdown might i harry's inquest. ? it is going to| take as a markdown might wail. harry's inquest. ? it is going to i take as a markdown might wail. we are under no illusion. it is not going to be next month. we may get it next year. the going to be next month. we may get it next year-— it next year. the next step now is this family _
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it next year. the next step now is this family have _ it next year. the next step now is this family have to _ it next year. the next step now is this family have to have - it next year. the next step now is this family have to have an i it next year. the next step now is. this family have to have an inquest and an inquest is to determine how harry came to meet his death. we still do not have any details of what happened to him that night, unbelievably after all this time, so the next phase of this campaign will turn to that but hopefully sometime next year it will be very involved inquest. given that we now know that harry was not the first person to die outside the united states air force base. there have been thousands of people killed or seriously injured over the decades at the hands of american drivers. and it must stop. so that will be the focus of the inquest and then after that, look, the way this family were tweeted at the outset which —— the way this family were treated at the outset, which shocked me, there are lessons to be learned. we will be having a parliamentary
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inquiry into the whole scandal, billy, and i think we have to acknowledge to today for the first time that we have learnt lessons but we want to work with them in parliament to make sure that should this happen to another family again they don't have to go to this family so these parents are heroes. they have to cope without their son every day. but they are thinking about the next family down the road and they are dedicating their lives to that project which, you know, i don't how much comfort it gives them to go to bed at night that they are leaving a legacy for harry and that his life did matter, that will make other people safer and their absolute heroes in my view. reporter:- heroes in my view. reporter: , , ., ., reporter: they said they had learnt lessons. reporter: they said they had learnt lessons- they — reporter: they said they had learnt lessons. they think _ reporter: they said they had learnt lessons. they think they _ reporter: they said they had learnt lessons. they think they lent - lessons. they think they lent enough? _ lessons. they think they lent enough? -- _ lessons. they think they lent enough? -- de _
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lessons. they think they lent enough? -- de think- lessons. they think they lent enough? -- de think they i lessons. they think they lent l enough? -- de think they have lessons. they think they lent i enough? -- de think they have lent enough? —— de think they have lent enough? —— de think they have lent enough? i think we'll be having extensive discussions with the foreign office and, look, i think it has to be open and transparent. have a learnt lessonsnot only time will tell. i think i was involved another case recently outside raf lakenheath where we worked with the foreign office and in that case we didn't let the person responsible go and she will stay in a justice system so if that is anything to go by, yes, it is looking positive. that is all you can ever hope in life. people do make mistakes and governments make mistakes and we don't believe that anyone was intentionally trying to harm harry but we have to... reporter: t0 harm harry but we have to... reporter:— harm harry but we have to... reporter: to believe that... directly? _ reporter: to believe that...
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directly? i — reporter: to believe that... directly? i can't _ reporter: to believe that... directly? i can't answer i reporter: to believe that... directly? i can't answer that l reporter: to believe that... - directly? i can't answer that today. probably not- _ directly? i can't answer that today. probably not. no, _ directly? i can't answer that today. probably not. no, not— directly? i can't answer that today. probably not. no, not really. - directly? i can't answer that today. probably not. no, not really. i- probably not. no, not really. i thinkthat's — probably not. no, not really. i think that's a _ probably not. no, not really. i think that's a difficult - probably not. no, not really. i| think that's a difficult question. ivor was encouraged in the past to have what we call the past to have what we call restorative justice meetings. they are very, very powerful when you have an offender in front of the victim and they talk to each other, but that is usually done fairly early on and it does allow the parties to explain how they feel to each other, may be for they feel to each other, may be for the defendant to express some remorse but, you know, and i think some of you were there, we were thrust into the oval office in 2019 with apparently mrs anne sacoolas in the next room and had not been made aware that that was the purpose of a visit to the white house and i culled it into the meeting because we cannot meet a person who has just killed your son a few weeks earlier in the oval office with the world media there with president trump, you know, going for his glory moment. you know, ithought
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you know, going for his glory moment. you know, i thought it was the most disgraceful thing in the whole campaign. these people were, you know, just a few weeks on from losing harry. they were like rabbits in the headlights. and the poor mother didn't even know where she was. she didn't even know what the oval office was and there was president from planning to ambush her. in different circumstances maybe we would have met her, had they done it properly, maybe but not they done it properly, maybe but not the way and i am so disappointed in the way and i am so disappointed in the us government and i don't know what is going on in washington and the department ofjustice and the state department and their decision is usually suboptimal and as isaac said if they want a war we will start a war said if they want a war we will starta warand said if they want a war we will start a war and we are not going to let british citizens suffer at their hands any more. any more questions?
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are redone? that you all so much for coming. thank you, thank you. studio: was spokesman for harry dunn's family but also harry dunn's mother saying there that harry, we've done it, job done, so clearly happy with that suspended sentence on anne sacoolas has received, eight months injail but on anne sacoolas has received, eight months in jail but suspended for a year. in a statement, harry dunn's mother saying that she was grateful for the words of the judge and saying that her promise to get justice for her son is well and truly complete and that is harry dunn, the night four years ago when harry dunn was killed by anne sacoolas's careless driving. we have had a statement a few moments ago from anne sacoolas he was on a video link watching her statement there. i
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will read you her statement. anne sacoolas says i want to extend again my serious condolences to harry dunn's family and friends. my tragic mistake led to the loss of harry and i live with this regret every single day. anne sacoolas goes on to say there is not a day that goes by having isn't on my mind and i am deeply sorry for the pain that i have caused. it's for this reason that i have been so committed to a resolution to this case since 2019. anne sacoolas goes on to say i know there is nothing i can say to kind of change what has happened. i only hope the truth and resolution to this case will bring a measure of comfort and peace. as always, i remain willing to meet and apologise to have a's family directive that would support their healing. how was a young man with his whole life ahead of him and i cannot imagine the loss and i to deeply grieved for
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heavy and his family. that statement from and so clueless. we can go back to robin vance has been at the old bailey for. interesting that the old bailey for. interesting that the family there and harry dunn's mother saying she was grateful for the suspended sentence and says that it justice achieved the suspended sentence and says that itjustice achieved but also says it is despicable that anne sacoolas hadn't come over to disk case for this court appearance, for the sentencing. this court appearance, for the sentencing-— this court appearance, for the sentencin_ ., ,. ., , ., sentencing. what is clear is that that is a mother, _ sentencing. what is clear is that that is a mother, a _ sentencing. what is clear is that that is a mother, a grieving - sentencing. what is clear is that. that is a mother, a grieving mother who was satisfied that he has delivered justice for her dead son. job done she said and then kind of exalted in front of the cameras are just over the road by the entrance to the criminal court by saying harry, we've done it. we have heard it in an extremely moving victim impact statement read out by harry dunn's family in a court earlier
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that she had promised herfamily she would deliverjustice for him and says that no country ever breaks promise like that to her son so for want of a better word they will be pleased about the sentence, eight months injail suspended pleased about the sentence, eight months in jail suspended for those 12 months but remember anne sacoolas has no plans to return to this country and so in that respect will not serve that sentence but on that offer from anne sacoolas to meet with that family, i mean, it is clear the dunn's are not interested. i mean, charlie george was asked about the prospect of a meeting. she says it's too much, too little and too late and in terms of the government they say it is the us government they say it is the us government to the real enemy, harry dunn's family here, for treating them in a cowardly way in with disdain. and on the specifics of anne sacoolas itself and even those around the dunn family know it was a mistake, a tragic mistake there was
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never any intent when she left raf croughton in her volvo on that night to kill harry but nonetheless they described him as despicable and they were disgusted at the factory continued to refuse to come here and face justice face—to—face in the court. despite disgusted at the fact that she... ——disgusted at the fact that she... freezing conditions across the uk have triggered cold weather payments — made by the government to those on the lowest incomes in some areas. the payments are issued when the weather is cold enough to potentially affect people's health. it comes as millions of people struggle to heat their homes. last night our reporter tim muffett joined outreach workers in london who are hoping to offer some warmth to people sleeping on the streets. it is absolutely freezing. a bitterly cold wednesday
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night in south london. rosie and the outreach team from holy trinity church in clapham are hoping to spread warmth when there's not much around. we have a lot of people living locally who really struggle with being able to heat their homes and keep themselves warm. hello, sir. how are you doing? some don't have homes to heat. rosie and her team are part of the warm welcome campaign. how are you? i'm all right, fine. 3,000 venues across the uk that are opening their doors as temperatures plunge. it's warm, are you going to get some porridge? ——it�*s warm and you'll get some porridge? terry was homeless for six years. i mean, you would use paperto keep warm. you would wrap yourself up and put it under your clothes to keep warm at night. he now has accommodation, but often visits the church in clapham to warm up. coming to these centres helps. getting a breakfast, getting company, getting advice.
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people reaching out to you helps. severe cold weather is expected across the uk. snow and ice warnings are in place in scotland, wales, northern ireland and the east coast of england. it's come at a time when we're suffering with things to do with the cost of living and people are trying to save money so they don't want to put their central heating on. and then on top of that, we are expecting this cold snap to last longer than just a day. you know, we're looking at maybe four or five days. heat is a big attraction right now. the union corner community centre in plymouth is now open for three days a week, offering company away from the cold. people here are generous and they are very hospitable. they're very kind and that's what's needed in this world, i think. in london, the severe emergency weather protocol has been activated, meaning more shelters will be made available to the homeless. it's thought the number of people either sleeping rough for the first time or living on the streets rose by around a quarter in london betweenjune and september, compared to the same period last year.
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rosie and her team will continue to offer a place in the warmth to as many as possible. they're gearing up for a busy winter. tim muffett, bbc news. now it's time for a look at the weather with stav. the first 50 pence coins bearing the image of king charles have entered circulation today. five million are being distributed to customers via post offices. the sculptor martinjennings used pictures of king charles on his 70th birthday to create the image. he said it's his smallest piece of artwork to date. now it's time for a look at the weather with stav. hello, there. despite it being sunny and vitamin e was today it was another very cold afternoon and wintry showers continue to be
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confined to coastal areas and that was what we will see on friday evening and the start of the weekend and will have wintry showers where icy stretches will be a problem. it is likely to be very cold with severe frost is forecast. you can see the blue colours, the arctic air has been enveloping the whole of the country through thursday and were last friday and into the weekend. they tonight again it is coastal areas which will see these wintry showers and many central and southern comics of the neighbours and inland areas will tend to remain dry with close skies. snow flurries in east anglia and the south—east by the end of the night and won't be surprised if in one or two areas even london and the home counties could see a light dusting of snow by that morning. very cold night where you are, minus 3——5 typically, perhaps even down to minus double digging in some areas so watch out to the ice risk and a cold and frosty morning but again dry, bright with plenty of sunshine for many of us skies of the south—east but snow
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showers continue to affect northern scotland and a few affecting irish sea coast as well. temperature wise know better than 2—5 c and in the wind across north and west areas it is actually colder than those temperatures adjust. as we head to the friday night, it looks like showers will continue, snow shows across the north and eastern scotland but more affecting western areas around ibc coast so it is here where we will see the ice risk once again and another very cold night coming to the start of saturday, —2 to —5, lower than that in a few spots. as we head into the weekend it stays cold while areas and the winds turn lighter and we start to see problems of patchy, freezing fog which could be dense and stubble to clear in places on saturday and sunday. you can see why. we're still in the cold air both saturday and sunday. low pressure just to the week, east, very weak affair with a few isobars and winds forming lighter. we can see some sunshine around come up very cold weather began on saturday, wintry showers
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and coastal areas, a bit grey with more low cloud and fog on sunday. don't forget you can we stay abreast of the weather where you are aware you are going by heading in to our bbc weather. see you later.
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this is bbc news. i'm reeta chakrabarti. the headlines at five: anne sacoolas, the us citizen who admitted causing the death of teenage motorcyclist harry dunn in 2019, is given an eight month prison sentence suspended for 12 months at the old bailey in london. we have worked tirelessly and relentlessly to make sure she in the end had to do what you and i had to done. harry, we've done it! nhs england say they do have a plan in place to deal with pressures on the health service after figures suggest an estimated seven point two million patients are waiting to start routine hospital treatment — a record high.
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