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temperatures north to south 8—12 . that is a touch above what we would expect at this time of year. for the rest of the week, weather systems lining up in the atlantic in taking aim at bringing further rain at times. looking quite unsettled through the week ahead. for the most part, it will stay mild but we will see some colder air close to the north of scotland. heading through the weekend, christmas began, it may be that that cold air sinks a little further southwards for a time. a lot of uncertainty about that, generally speaking the week ahead will be mild, summery at times but it may turnjust a little mild, summery at times but it may turn just a little colder for some of us over the weekend.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me i've got the broadcasterjames lewer and the broadcaster james lewer and the education broadcasterjames lewer and the education editor of the sunday times, sian griffiths. a very good evening to both of you. i'm just going to take you through some of those front pages. we will start off with the metro, on their front page is a warning from the head of britain's armed forces who says his personnel are not spare capacity. to replace workers walking out as part of strike action. the financial times highlights a surge in covert wind cases in china as the
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government there eases lockdown measures. the i is warning in a delay on emergency services cost times. the mirror is also leading on the nhs but the tabloid claims that it is the conservative government that are risking lives by failing to avert strike this week. the guardian leads on an investigation into workers who produce genes for tesco in thailand. the paper reports claims of forced labour and illegally low pay in poor conditions. the daily mail says itv pundit gary neville has caused controversy during the world cup final by comparing striking uk workers with migrant labourers in qatar. and on the front page of the times, we have the paper suggesting that passengers might face to our
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queues at passport control this christmas due to strike action. that's if you're travelling, of course. we will begin our chats. james and sian, very good evening to you. we are going to start off with it just you. we are going to start off with itjust has you. we are going to start off with it just has to you. we are going to start off with itjust has to be a better football. let's get that out of the way. sian, i wonder if you could kick that for us, on the front page of the guardian. us, on the front page of the guardian-— us, on the front page of the guardian. �*, , ., ., ., guardian. it's the photo and the headline, champions! _ guardian. it's the photo and the headline, champions! messy's l headline, champions! messy's crowning glory. after an extraordinary final this afternoon, which has been called the greatest world cup final ever and argentina won against france, it was a real roller—coaster game and i think one of the loveliest things about it is this personal story, personal triumph or lionel messi, 35 years old, probably his last world cup. scoring a number of the goals for argentina and just a lovely, kind
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of, final moment for him. as argentina beat france, there seem to have been two key players in the game. there was messy and kylian mbappe. most of them play for paris saint—germain and when you watch it, you have this feeling that as one scored then the other scored and it was that feeling like anything you can do, i can do better. as one commentator put it. it was a really exciting game to watch. we commentator put it. it was a really exciting game to watch.— exciting game to watch. we were heafina exciting game to watch. we were hearing that _ exciting game to watch. we were hearing that a — exciting game to watch. we were hearing that a lot. _ exciting game to watch. we were hearing that a lot. the _ exciting game to watch. we were l hearing that a lot. the excitement. the paper goes on to say it was the greatest world cup final ever played, james, was that you're feeling? did you watch it? i did watch it, feeling? did you watch it? i did watch it. yes. _ feeling? did you watch it? i did watch it, yes, i _ feeling? did you watch it? i did watch it, yes, i was _ feeling? did you watch it? i did watch it, yes, i was actually - watch it, yes, i was actually surrounded by lots of argentinian fans _ surrounded by lots of argentinian fans it _ surrounded by lots of argentinian fans. it was extraordinary. for all football_ fans. it was extraordinary. for all football romantics like myself, i have _ football romantics like myself, i have to — football romantics like myself, i have to include myself in that, it was truly— have to include myself in that, it was truly brilliant to watch. i think— was truly brilliant to watch. i think a — was truly brilliant to watch. i think a lot of us wanted this outcome _ think a lot of us wanted this outcome unless you are french, of
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course, _ outcome unless you are french, of course, or— outcome unless you are french, of course, or may resilient. messy, as sian has_ course, or may resilient. messy, as sian has touched on, is considered one of— sian has touched on, is considered one of the — sian has touched on, is considered one of the greatest players of all time _ one of the greatest players of all time and — one of the greatest players of all time and certainly in our generation probably— time and certainly in our generation probably him and cristiano ronaldo are probably the two standout stars of world _ are probably the two standout stars of world football for the last 15, 20 years — of world football for the last 15, 20 years. this was the one thing that was— 20 years. this was the one thing that was missing from his cabinet, reaiiy~ _ that was missing from his cabinet, reaiiy~ he's— that was missing from his cabinet, really. he's won everything in world football, _ really. he's won everything in world football, the corporate america with argentina. _ football, the corporate america with argentina, the world cup was the last crowning glory. i have to say i do love _ last crowning glory. i have to say i do love some of the imagery i'm seeing _ do love some of the imagery i'm seeing for— do love some of the imagery i'm seeing for tomorrow's papers. he's -ot seeing for tomorrow's papers. he's got this— seeing for tomorrow's papers. he's got this awesome black cloak over him like _ got this awesome black cloak over him like he — got this awesome black cloak over him like he has some sort of god. what _ him like he has some sort of god. what is _ him like he has some sort of god. what is that? have you worked it out? it looks very nice, very boudoir like, actually. i out? it looks very nice, very boudoir like, actually. i think it's areat. it boudoir like, actually. i think it's great- it puts — boudoir like, actually. i think it's great. it puts the _ boudoir like, actually. i think it's great. it puts the focus - boudoir like, actually. i think it's great. it puts the focus on - boudoir like, actually. i think it's great. it puts the focus on him l boudoir like, actually. i think it's| great. it puts the focus on him in the picture. _ great. it puts the focus on him in the picture, as well. i know the guardian— the picture, as well. i know the guardian and other papers have it. it guardian and other papers have it. it was _ guardian and other papers have it. it was an— guardian and other papers have it. it was an incredible match as sian
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said, _ it was an incredible match as sian said. 470. — it was an incredible match as sian said, 470, 80 minutes of normal argentina — said, 470, 80 minutes of normal argentina looked in control, then france _ argentina looked in control, then france ali— argentina looked in control, then france all of a sudden came into it and then— france all of a sudden came into it and then the extra time was like playing — and then the extra time was like playing ball. ijust didn't know where — playing ball. ijust didn't know where it— playing ball. ijust didn't know where it was going to go and then it went to _ where it was going to go and then it went to the — where it was going to go and then it went to the shoot—out and we had the romantic— went to the shoot—out and we had the romantic ending that many people wanted~ _ romantic ending that many people wanted. so yeah, fantastic.- wanted. so yeah, fantastic. looks like the king's _ wanted. so yeah, fantastic. looks like the king's eight. _ wanted. so yeah, fantastic. looks like the king's eight. let's - wanted. so yeah, fantastic. looks like the king's eight. let's move l like the king's eight. let's move on. let's turn to the front page of the metro, sian, this is not our battle. , . . the metro, sian, this is not our battle. , ., ., ., the metro, sian, this is not our battle. , ., ., battle. yes, a wave of strikes cominu battle. yes, a wave of strikes coming up — battle. yes, a wave of strikes coming up and _ battle. yes, a wave of strikes coming up and a _ battle. yes, a wave of strikes coming up and a lot - battle. yes, a wave of strikes coming up and a lot of- battle. yes, a wave of strikes coming up and a lot of the . battle. yes, a wave of strikes i coming up and a lot of the front pages tomorrow reflecting the disruption that is going to be caused over the christmas period. this is the story on the front of the metro. it is the head of britain's armed forces, who says that he is a bit worried about the idea that troops are going to be used to drive ambulances, do some logistical work, because the ambulance workers are going out on
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strike. he is pointing out that the armed forces have their own primary role, they are busy themselves. and, that it role, they are busy themselves. and, thatitis role, they are busy themselves. and, that it is not necessarily sensible to rely on troops to step in when people take strike action. he has tried very hard not to get too political but it is an interesting morning from him that as the government and the unions ratchet up this battle that is going on, that may be the army does not want to get drawn it heavily into it. and also, of course, many of the soldiers are not particularly well paid themselves. some of them are earning less than some of the strikers that are going out on the picket lines. so an interesting story.— are going out on the picket lines. so an interesting story. james, we are sticking _ so an interesting story. james, we are sticking with _ so an interesting story. james, we are sticking with strike _ so an interesting story. james, we are sticking with strike action, - so an interesting story. james, we are sticking with strike action, i i are sticking with strike action, i wonder if we could include what is going on within the nhs with the front page story on the financial times, and just pulling out
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altogether, it's been described as chaos on the front page of the financial times.— chaos on the front page of the financial times. story, as well, talking about the fact that the government are still very determined as we have been hearing _ very determined as we have been hearing from oliver dowden, very determined to face down the unions ahead _ determined to face down the unions ahead of— determined to face down the unions ahead of tomorrow's strikes by the mn _ ahead of tomorrow's strikes by the mn there — ahead of tomorrow's strikes by the rcn. there are some tory mps, this piece _ rcn. there are some tory mps, this piece touches on it, that are concerned _ piece touches on it, that are concerned about that and what it will mean — concerned about that and what it will mean. we are having more strikes — will mean. we are having more strikes expected, of course, this week— strikes expected, of course, this week and — strikes expected, of course, this week and more chaos, as this piece touches— week and more chaos, as this piece touches on— week and more chaos, as this piece touches on in— week and more chaos, as this piece touches on in the financial times, and if— touches on in the financial times, and if this— touches on in the financial times, and if this negotiations don't happen, _ and if this negotiations don't happen, the rcn asked suggesting that there will be more in the new year _ that there will be more in the new year it's — that there will be more in the new year. it's not looking good for everyone. _ year. it's not looking good for everyone, really. but forthe government, what they choose to do next. _ government, what they choose to do next. will _ government, what they choose to do next. will he — government, what they choose to do next, will be really important and this is— next, will be really important and this is another big week in terms of dealing _ this is another big week in terms of dealing with the strikes, and they are coming in all sorts of directions as i am sure we are about to touch _
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directions as i am sure we are about to touch on — directions as i am sure we are about to touch on with some of the other front— to touch on with some of the other front pages, as well. as to touch on with some of the other front pages, as well.— front pages, as well. as dilemma 'ust front pages, as well. as dilemma just before _ front pages, as well. as dilemma just before we — front pages, as well. as dilemma just before we move _ front pages, as well. as dilemma just before we move on, - front pages, as well. as dilemma just before we move on, sian, i front pages, as well. as dilemma | just before we move on, sian, it's interesting that whenever we get an issue like this, we've had a series of issues in the last few months, it highlights some of the unease and the splits within the conservative party. the splits within the conservative pa . . . the splits within the conservative pa . , , , ., , the splits within the conservative party. yes. this story, if you look at the number _ party. yes. this story, if you look at the number of _ party. yes. this story, if you look at the number of strikes - party. yes. this story, if you look at the number of strikes that - party. yes. this story, if you look at the number of strikes that are | at the number of strikes that are now coming up, we've got nurses, ambulance workers, border control staff, postalworkers, rail ambulance workers, border control staff, postal workers, rail workers, and number of unions due to walk out over the next few weeks. there is a split in the conservative party. the hard liners on the right do not want the government to cave into the unions, they want to be seen as very tough, rishi sunak writing in one of the sunday papers today saying the unions are being like the grinch, they want to steal christmas. we are not going to give in. but against that, you have voices like jake berry arguing that especially in terms of the nurse's dispute that the government ministers should be getting back round the table, they
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should be showing themselves to be at least willing to negotiate. the nurses have asked for something approaching i9%, they have been offered 4%. there is a big gap between those two. butjust to take a hard—line position and say no, we are not going to move that from the recommendations of the independent pay review body i think is something that not many tory backbenchers feel very comfortable with in the case of nurses, at least. find very comfortable with in the case of nurses, at least.— nurses, at least. and of course, james, nurses, at least. and of course, james. border _ nurses, at least. and of course, james, border force _ nurses, at least. and of course, james, border force staff- nurses, at least. and of course, james, border force staff are i nurses, at least. and of course, l james, border force staff are also walking out. front page of the times. . walking out. front page of the times. , ., , , , , times. yes, absolutely. this is obviously _ times. yes, absolutely. this is obviously this _ times. yes, absolutely. this is obviously this week, _ times. yes, absolutely. this is obviously this week, a - times. yes, absolutely. this is obviously this week, a lot - times. yes, absolutely. this is obviously this week, a lot of i times. yes, absolutely. this is - obviously this week, a lot of people will be _ obviously this week, a lot of people will be flying home for christmas and going — will be flying home for christmas and going to lots of different destinations, myself included actually, i'm flying to spain for christmas, so this will potentially affect— christmas, so this will potentially affect me — christmas, so this will potentially affect me. a lot of concern over this. _ affect me. a lot of concern over this. just — affect me. a lot of concern over this, just reading this front—page, 'ust this, just reading this front—page, just having — this, just reading this front—page, just having a look at it over the last five. — just having a look at it over the last five, ten minutes or so, people could _ last five, ten minutes or so, people could have — last five, ten minutes or so, people could have two hour wait at passport control _ could have two hour wait at passport control this— could have two hour wait at passport control. this piece on the front of the times— control. this piece on the front of the times is— control. this piece on the front of the times is saying, as border force
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staff are _ the times is saying, as border force staff are walking out. as i said before. — staff are walking out. as i said before, coming from all sorts of different — before, coming from all sorts of different angles and happening at lots of— different angles and happening at lots of different airports. not just focus _ lots of different airports. not just focus on — lots of different airports. not just focus on one particular one, the action— focus on one particular one, the action will— focus on one particular one, the action will affect heathrow, gatwick, birmingham, manchester cardiff. _ gatwick, birmingham, manchester cardiff, glasgow, from the 27th, the 23rd. _ cardiff, glasgow, from the 27th, the 23rd. till— cardiff, glasgow, from the 27th, the 23rd, till boxing day, new year's eve _ 23rd, till boxing day, new year's eve many— 23rd, till boxing day, new year's eve. many flights are projected equating to 200 million airline seats — equating to 200 million airline seats. enormous amount of impact. i'm concerned ahead of this week. we will see _ i'm concerned ahead of this week. we will see how— i'm concerned ahead of this week. we will see how that goes. the i'm concerned ahead of this week. we will see how that goes.— will see how that goes. the front .a i e will see how that goes. the front -a~e of will see how that goes. the front page of the _ will see how that goes. the front page of the daily _ will see how that goes. the front page of the daily express, - will see how that goes. the front| page of the daily express, you've dealt with it quite nicely for us, sian, ijust want dealt with it quite nicely for us, sian, i just want to show the view is that front—page, the headline is nurses will do a deal to end the strikes. you summarised the position of the royal college of nursing, but the front page of the i is interesting because they go on to show that the impact on the nhs
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crisis, this winter, the impact it's going to have on patients ahead of the strikes is also one that we need to keep an eye on. sian? yes. the strikes is also one that we need to keep an eye on. sian? yes, well, the general — to keep an eye on. sian? yes, well, the general secretary _ to keep an eye on. sian? yes, well, the general secretary of _ to keep an eye on. sian? yes, well, the general secretary of the - to keep an eye on. sian? yes, well, the general secretary of the rcn - to keep an eye on. sian? yes, well, the general secretary of the rcn is l the general secretary of the rcn is signalling that she does want to get back around the table with the government to try to talk about pay, at least to talk about it, to try and reach some sort of compromise of 4% and 5% above inflation which is around i9%. she is a warning, now, and other people are as well, that patient safety could be at risk with the strikes, with the ambulance workers and the nurses out. yes, troops are stepping in to drive some of the ambulances, i think 600 troops are coming in, and another 600 offering logistical support, but as a unions point out, these are not trained health service staff. do they know what to do in an
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emergency? i think there are growing concerns that hopefully no lights will be lost because of the strikes but the strikes in the nhs could lead to some significant health problems for people. so pat cullen very much urging the government to get round the table but also issuing an ultimatum and saying that if the government doesn't then she is prepared to call further action in the new year. so it's a really difficult position, the ice story, i think is saying this. delayed 999 call response times are costing lives, already and i think many of the unions are trying to highlight, yes they want a better pay deal for their members that they are also trying to highlight in the public sector that there have been funding cuts and that already we are seeing in the nhs record waiting times, all kinds of pressures and strains on the system and i have seen nurses holding up placards saying per
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patient funding for the nhs is less than per patient funding in france or germany. that is what they are saying. or germany. that is what they are sa inc. , . or germany. that is what they are sa in. g , ., ., or germany. that is what they are sa inc. , ., ., or germany. that is what they are sa in. , ., ., saying. just going to give you back 20 seconds. _ saying. just going to give you back 20 seconds, james, _ saying. just going to give you back 20 seconds, james, interesting i saying. just going to give you back. 20 seconds, james, interesting that flu and pneumonia have killed more people than covid this autumn already. i people than covid this autumn alread . . . . people than covid this autumn alread . ., , , people than covid this autumn alread . , ., people than covid this autumn alread. , ., ., already. i was 'ust looking at that, 'ust auoin already. i was 'ust looking at that, just going to — already. i wasjust looking at that, just going to mention _ already. i wasjust looking at that, just going to mention that, - already. i wasjust looking at that, just going to mention that, yes, . just going to mention that, yes, that is. — just going to mention that, yes, that is. i— just going to mention that, yes, that is, i don't know if i'm surprised _ that is, i don't know if i'm surprised or not. in a way i think it's kind — surprised or not. in a way i think it's kind of— surprised or not. in a way i think it's kind of not surprising, but clearly — it's kind of not surprising, but clearly the _ it's kind of not surprising, but clearly the knock—on effect of lots of things — clearly the knock—on effect of lots of things is clear with the paramedics as sian has been saying, the strike _ paramedics as sian has been saying, the strike action, so, yeah... underscoring the pressure on the nhs, i think. underscoring the pressure on the nhs, ithink. we underscoring the pressure on the nhs, i think. we will have another look at the papers and get more of your thoughts on that, james, on the nhs strikes, as well. but sian, thank you very much, james thank you, and thank you for being with us for this edition of the papers. i'll be back with you at 11pm,
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