this is bbc news i'm clive myrie. the headlines at 5 ambulance workers stage industrial action across many parts of england and wales in their dispute over pay — as union leaders criticise the prime ministerfor not being willing to negotiate a man has been given a life sentence for murdering his pregnant partner and three children aged between 11 and 13 in derbyshire they had all by the nature of the relationship come to trust damien bendall and he shattered the trust ukraine's president volodomyr zelensky will arrive in washington in the coming hours — his first overseas trip since war broke out. it's early closing time for thousands of pubs this winter hit by rising energy bills,

and staff shortages. and the build—up to the bbc sports personality of the year is beginning with some of the biggest stars of the exporting world arriving here i had of the sermon it tonight. good afternoon and welcome to bbc news. tens of thousands of ambulance workers, including paramedics and call handlers, are on strike in england and wales, as part of their dispute over pay and conditions. health officials warn patient safety is at risk, while the unions say ambulance crews will respond to life threatening emergencies. the industrial action began at midnight across wales, the west midlands and the north of england. then, from six o'clock this morning, it extended to the east midlands and the south. the east of england and the isle

of wight are unaffected. and this afternoon, ambulance workers and paramedics in london joined picket lines. with the latest, here's our health correspondent, jim reed. when do we want it? now! paramedics early this morning on the picket line coventry. ambulance staff say this dispute is about pay, which hasn't kept up with inflation, but also patient safety. we can spend four, five hours in the back of an ambulance sometimes waiting to go into the hospital. often we can hear over the radio there is a cardiac arrest and people we cannot get to. i have worked here 24 years and never seen it like this before. and all the experienced staff are walking. you can't replace that overnight. it is really stressful. as a result people have chosen other employment to go to. _ we are losing staff. ambulances were still leaving today to go to the most life—threatening emergencies. the situation will vary by region. most category one calls, such as someone not breathing

or in cardiac arrest, will be responded to, as may some category two calls like strokes and serious burns. but other urgent problems, like a woman in late stage labour or an elderly person falling in their home, might not be answered or be delayed. the government has accused unions of making a conscious decision to inflict harm on patients. the three unions striking today have refused to work with us at a national level. they've insisted on only having local arrangements in terms of the coverage of life—threatening and emergency calls. there is further uncertainty on the day because some of the emergency calls, whether they respond or not will be decided on the day in the call centres by members. unions reacted furiously to suggestions they are deliberately causing harm. every time the health secretary speaks, my head is in my hands. i have never seen such an abdication of leadership than i have from rishi sunak and the health secretary. we have negotiated

locally all of the cover. category ones will all be answered. but the important thing to say is that this government has walked away from the negotiating table. this strike did not need to happen. 600 troops have been trained to step in and drive ambulances, although they are not allowed to treat patients or use blue lights. in brighton the military could be seen, alongside paramedics bringing patients into hospital. this strike comes at a time when ambulance services are already under intense pressure. in gloucester this week, long queues of vehicles were stuck outside hospital because there was no space inside to unload patients. that same problem has driven up response times across the country, with eight services in england declaring critical incidents this week. this strike could not be happening at a worse time because of the pressures the nhs faces. that is why yesterday, in a letter to the prime minister and again today, we are appealing

to both sides to try to find a way of coming to the table and avoiding further industrial action. ambulance staff in northern ireland also went on strike last week, while in scotland a new pay offer has just been rejected by one union, but a strike has not yet been called. strike action here in liverpool and across most of the rest of england and wales will continue through the day. with no breakthrough in talks and signs the dispute is getting more heated, expect further disruption next week and perhaps into the new year. let's talk to our correspondent frances read who's in west london. francis what has been the situation there on the strike they? the strike started here — there on the strike they? the strike started here around _ there on the strike they? the strike started here around midday - there on the strike they? the strike started here around midday today. | started here around midday today. they will go on till midnight tonight here in west london and we

have not actually hurt that many sirens wailing. not many blue flashing lights you would normally get outside and a and e in london or across england and with in midwinter. it is been quiet and you and usually. the army and armed forces have been helping drive ambulances across london as they have across the country. we just seen two marines turn up in one of the ambulances to bring in a patient in the last 30 minutes or so. but the london evidence service said it declared a business continuity incident even before the strikes. that was because of the winter pressures. this has added to that. i didn't look inside a and eat their way room is full but not as busy as usual. what a lot of people have been saying is they have called 111 this morning and they have been told to make their own way to a and e they can have an endless but if they can get here they can be seen. that's what people have done and

people we have spoken to has said it is pretty quiet in there. it seems a lot faster than usual and they were surprised by that.— lot faster than usual and they were surprised by that. thank you frances thank ou surprised by that. thank you frances thank you for — surprised by that. thank you frances thank you for that. _ the nhs pay review body is an independent organisation which advises the government on health service salaries. jerry cope used to chair it and hejoins me now. hello to you thank you for being with us. we have the government rishi sunak, steve barclay pointing continually into the recommendation made earlier this year by the peer review body concerning a particular level of increase. and nurses paid. are they right to do that? yes. are they right to do that? yes, i don't think _ are they right to do that? yes, i don't think you _ are they right to do that? yes, i don't think you can _ are they right to do that? yes, i don't think you can run - are they right to do that? yes, i don't think you can run into - don't think you can run into systems. you either have a review body system or a direct negotiating system. at the moment you have a review body system and both start party should stick with that in my

idea. , ., idea. so, when you were renting the pate review — idea. so, when you were renting the pate review body — idea. so, when you were renting the pate review body in _ idea. so, when you were renting the pate review body in 2014 _ idea. so, when you were renting the pate review body in 2014 and - pate review body in 2014 and 2015. jeremy hunt, the health secretary refused to accept your suggestion that there should be a 1% pay rise for nurses. that there should be a 1% pay rise for nurses-— that there should be a 1% pay rise for nurses. ., , ., ., for nurses. how did you feel about that? i for nurses. how did you feel about that? i got — for nurses. how did you feel about that? i got very — for nurses. how did you feel about that? i got very annoyed _ for nurses. how did you feel about that? i got very annoyed about - for nurses. how did you feel about that? i got very annoyed about it. | that? i got very annoyed about it. if my memory serves me right, i got annoyed about it and it didn't happen again. annoyed about it and it didn't happen again-— annoyed about it and it didn't hauenauain. ., happen again. ok, so do you view believe then? _ happen again. ok, so do you view believe then? that _ happen again. ok, so do you view believe then? that those - happen again. ok, so do you view believe then? that those people i happen again. ok, so do you view. believe then? that those people who are on the pay review body now are, obviously, i would love to ask them myself. do you think they're particularly happy about the fact that steve barclay is sticking to their recommendation? in spite of their recommendation? in spite of the huge rise in inflation that we have seen with him or i think they are probably happy they are sick into the recommendation. i think there will be _ into the recommendation. i think there will be looking _ into the recommendation. i think there will be looking into - into the recommendation. i think there will be looking into the - into the recommendation. i think| there will be looking into the next round to decide whether they didn't

have enough information to come to a balanced judgment last time. i think theissue balanced judgment last time. i think the issue for government is the next round may take too long and we have a right mess in the nhs at the moment. so i would if i were the government asked the body to accelerate, fast their next set of recommendations and take into account anything that may have been missed for in their last report. [10 missed for in their last report. do ou missed for in their last report. do you see any suggestion from steve barclay and the government that they are likely to do that? yes. barclay and the government that they are likely to do that?— are likely to do that? yes, i do see one or two — are likely to do that? yes, i do see one or two it _ are likely to do that? yes, i do see one or two it took _ are likely to do that? yes, i do see one or two it took glimmers. - are likely to do that? yes, i do see one or two it took glimmers. i - are likely to do that? yes, i do see one or two it took glimmers. i see | one or two it took glimmers. i see it less suggestion that the unions might find that acceptable. it might need a little sweetener as well. but if you stick with pay review bodies the solution has to be somewhere in that space. if you decide to ditch review bodies that is a dangerous course to go down. i think scotland are about to find out how difficult that might might the sweetener be to

the unions that anything is backdated? for instance number one. that is clearly an option. i think the dates of infant mentation resident backdated. 0r the dates of infant mentation resident backdated. or a non—consolidated payment. which sort of deals with the present, if you like. to deal with the cost of living prices.— like. to deal with the cost of living prices. the other and to remember — living prices. the other and to remember and _ living prices. the other and to remember and you _ living prices. the other and to remember and you can - living prices. the other and to remember and you can clear. living prices. the other and to i remember and you can clear this living prices. the other and to - remember and you can clear this up. part of your remix is a lot to staffing levels, and staff retention and recruitment. now, we know, everybody knows, that there is a huge crisis across the nhs in terms of staffing levels and getting enough people into thejobs of staffing levels and getting enough people into the jobs that need to be filled. has enough weight, do you think, and given to that by the current review body in relation to the amount of pay they offered? i relation to the amount of pay they offered? ., �* relation to the amount of pay they offered? . �* , offered? i haven't seen the recent evidence i think _ offered? i haven't seen the recent evidence i think it _ offered? i haven't seen the recent evidence i think it is _ offered? i haven't seen the recent evidence i think it is more - offered? i haven't seen the recent evidence i think it is more a -

evidence i think it is more a retention problem than a recruitment issue. universities are still getting applications for people to be nurses. but, ithink getting applications for people to be nurses. but, i think it is a retention issue and then the issue you have to ask yourselves. is it pay that is causing it retention if or pressure of work? and that is quite a trickyjudgment for a review body to take and it will decide how much of retention issue is due to pay and how much is due to the very difficult working conditions nurses find themselves in.— difficult working conditions nurses find themselves in. shouldn't it be u . find themselves in. shouldn't it be u- to the find themselves in. shouldn't it be up to the staff _ find themselves in. shouldn't it be up to the staff were _ find themselves in. shouldn't it be up to the staff were doing - find themselves in. shouldn't it be up to the staff were doing the - find themselves in. shouldn't it be up to the staff were doing the jobl up to the staff were doing the job now to make it clear to the review body that actually come up pay is a huge issue here?— huge issue here? yes, and that is what trade _ huge issue here? yes, and that is what trade unions _ huge issue here? yes, and that is what trade unions quite _ huge issue here? yes, and that is what trade unions quite properly. huge issue here? yes, and that is. what trade unions quite properly do to the review body. and they say that. what the review body does it goes around and talk to stop in the private out of the sight of managers and trade unions and that helps it form itsjudgment.— and trade unions and that helps it form itsjudgment. form its 'udgment. there have been other form itsjudgment. there have been other -a form itsjudgment. there have been other pav review — form itsjudgment. there have been other pay review bodies _ form itsjudgment. there have been other pay review bodies whose - other pay review bodies whose recommendations have been ditch over the last few month. 0ne

recommendations have been ditch over the last few month. one wonders, as you say, there shouldn't be too systems. 0ne you say, there shouldn't be too systems. one wonders if the pay review bodies across a number of sectors are fit for purpose. i think that is a legitimate _ sectors are fit for purpose. i think that is a legitimate question - sectors are fit for purpose. i think that is a legitimate question from j that is a legitimate question from time to time but it is the system we have at the moment. let me give an example which is the armed forces. they don't have a trade union. they are not going to go on strike. they need something like a pay review body. so right at the top of them you're going to have a peer review body system. the issue is how many sectors that covers. and that should always be reviewed from time to time but not in the middle of a dispute i don't think. but not in the middle of a dispute i don't think-— don't think. ok, that's interesting, ou icked don't think. ok, that's interesting, you picked a _ don't think. ok, that's interesting, you picked a centre _ don't think. ok, that's interesting, you picked a centre where - don't think. ok, that's interesting, you picked a centre where they're. you picked a centre where they're not going to go on strike. 50 you picked a centre where they're not going to go on strike.- not going to go on strike. so they need a fair _ not going to go on strike. so they need a fair system _ not going to go on strike. so they need a fair system exactly, - not going to go on strike. so they need a fair system exactly, so i i need a fair system exactly, so i would like you to pick a sector where they could go on strike ie nurses. in where they could go on strike ie nurses. , . ., , ., . nurses. in this particular instance in this instance _ nurses. in this particular instance in this instance is _ nurses. in this particular instance

in this instance is a _ nurses. in this particular instance in this instance is a peer- nurses. in this particular instance in this instance is a peer review l in this instance is a peer review will be but it fit for purpose? i think so. i'm slightly biased as a former chair and i accept that. but i think, former chair and i accept that. but ithink, i know former chair and i accept that. but i think, i know from having set in those meeting rooms. we have very able people who think independent and come to a balanced judgment. i think that is the best i think you can handle any situation where going on strike is incredibly difficult and life—threatening. so i think nurses are over the line they should have a paper review body. you nurses are over the line they should have a paper review body.— have a paper review body. you say the think have a paper review body. you say they think they _ have a paper review body. you say they think they are _ have a paper review body. you say they think they are independent i they think they are independent those people in the room are the question the nurses say they are not that's almost an insult. i question the nurses say they are not that's almost an insult.— that's almost an insult. i know they are independent. _ that's almost an insult. i know they are independent. trade _ that's almost an insult. i know they are independent. trade unions - that's almost an insult. i know they are independent. trade unions of i are independent. trade unions of course may disagree with some of the judgements i'm sure the governments have agreed disagreed with judgements i've made. that is different from saying i think you've got it wrong. to say they are not independent is plain wrong. we are auoin to independent is plain wrong. we are going to leave _ independent is plain wrong. we are going to leave it — independent is plain wrong. we are going to leave it there _ independent is plain wrong. we are going to leave it there jerry - independent is plain wrong. we are going to leave it there jerry it - independent is plain wrong. we are going to leave it there jerry it is - going to leave it therejerry it is good to talk to you thank you for

joining us and shedding some light on this area. many thanks. meanwhile, nurses in scotland have rejected the latest pay offer from the nhs. the royal college of nursing in scotland 'overwhelmingly�* rejected the scottish government's offer by 82% in a consultative ballot. rcn scotland says it will continue planning for industrial action and will announce strike dates in the new year. 0ur correspondent, lisa summers is in edinburgh and she explained what the dispute is over. the deal here in scotland would have seen health care workers given an average of 7.5% pay increase and it was billed as the best in the whole of the uk. and the fact that such a high proportion of rcm members have rejected it will be a real blow to the scottish government and the first minister because she personally intervened, meeting nursing leaders to see if there was anything that could be done to get this deal over the line. but it leaves a complicated picture in scotland because other unions including unison, who also represent some of the nursing workforce, have already accepted the deal

and others like the gmb who represent the majority of ambulance workers have turned it down. so, i'm told there is a willingness to get back round the table on all sides but it's quite hard to see where the negotiations will go. so, while strikes are not guaranteed here in scotland in the new year, they are certainly getting a lot closer. a man who admitted murdering a pregnant woman, her son and daughter and her daughter's friend has been sentenced to a whole—life prison term. damien bendall killed his four victims with a claw hammer at a house in derbyshire back in 2021. phil mackie sent this update from derby crown court. this morning we had a change of plea from damien bendall he originally pleaded guilty for manslaughter and not murder. the forward victims were terry houses her daughter her son

and macy's friend who was at a sleepover in killamarsh on the night that damien brendan committed these murders. so he change his plea to murders. so he change his plea to murderfirst thing. the prosecution opened the case and then there was sentencing in which he gave damien bendall five whole life sentences. the murders including the rape of lacey was up it was a harness case. i can't go into detail but he killed them with a hammer. it was an awful afternoon and the families were in court had not hurled a lot of the details before and had already gone through hell. and here it they were having to hear some of the most gruesome information about some of their loved ones. when mrjustice salinas told mendel he was going to prison for the rest of the life and there was no pearl several of the

funding said yes that is what they wanted. that is also what ben does barrister said what she wanted. we also heard about his back on. he had also heard about his back on. he had a long string of offences, some of them violent. he was serving it suspended sentence at the time of the murder. i sentence for arson and he has been sentences that within the holy life sentence. he was called violence and controlling by the judge. called violence and controlling by thejudge. we heard some really very sad statements of members of the children's family and terry harris his family. their victim impact statements which were read out on their behalf in court. the most memorable of all of those was angela smith who was lacey grandmother and grandmother. they said when she was a runt they used to tell her there

were no monsters and how wrong they were. his barrister said he was quite unexpected and unwanted and wanting a whole life murder and he was at everett drug user. some of those awful details on the night he had been selling off his partner possessions to fuel his drug habit. after he killed them and he took john's ex—boss into at sold it to drugs came back and then use those drugs came back and then use those drugs before calling the police who turned up in killamarsh the next morning and made their discovery. so five whole life sentences for damien bendall today. we have just five whole life sentences for damien bendall today. we havejust seen families leaving it has been a horrible date today. nothing they said in their impact statements would bring their loved ones back but they will get what they wanted which was that the sentence.

ukraine's president, volodymyr zelensky is travelling to washington on his first trip abroad since the russian invasion in february. he'll address a joint session of congress, and hold talks with president biden at the white house, where a new package of military aid will be announced. with the latest from kyiv, our correspondent hugo bachega has this report. this is president zelensky yesterday in bakhmut, meeting troops engaged in some of the fiercest battles in this war. today, he'll be in washington — his first foreign trip since russia invaded in february. it's a trip full of security risks and was only confirmed hours before it was due to start. here's the president at a train station in poland ahead of his flight to washington. the us has been ukraine's most important ally in the war. it has committed tens of billions of dollars in aid and weapons, more than any other country. and there is more to come. president biden will announce a package with military aid, including patriot missiles. this is a sophisticated air

defence system that they ukrainians say they need to defend their country from air strikes. russia's campaign targeting critical infrastructure has left millions of people without electricity, heating and water. this as temperatures plummet below freezing. ukraine says russia is using winter as a weapon, trying to break ukrainian morale. but people here say they are determined to resist. 300 days into the war, ukraine is warning against complacency, saying russia, despite military setbacks, still poses a major threat. for president zelensky this visit is an opportunity to speak to those criticising the us support to his country and make the case for even more help. in moscow, president vladimir putin said he would ensure the safety of people across russia, including in the ukrainian regions he claims to have annexed. he said the main nato countries were using all their military

power against russia. our state department correspondent barbara plett usher is at the white house. barbara one wonders what kind of reception president zelensky is going to get. we are hearing voices grow a bit louder in washington on the republican side that perhaps there are limits to america's largess i suppose when it comes to supplying weapons and back in ukraine in this war.— supplying weapons and back in ukraine in this war. yes, that's ri . ht. ukraine in this war. yes, that's riuht. i ukraine in this war. yes, that's right- i can _ ukraine in this war. yes, that's right. i can assure _ ukraine in this war. yes, that's right. i can assure you - ukraine in this war. yes, that's right. i can assure you he - ukraine in this war. yes, that's right. i can assure you he will i ukraine in this war. yes, that's i right. i can assure you he will get a fulsome welcome at the white house where his first visit since outside visit since the beginning of the war. he is going from the front line where he was yesterday to the white house today to stand next to president biden in this very important, symbolic image. of us continuing and sustaining support

for current as the war drags on. then he's going to move down confucian avenue to address a joint session of congress. you are right, at the hollow republicans are taking over the house of representatives next year and they have indicated they may not be as fulsome in terms of supporting millions, of billions of supporting millions, of billions of dollars of aid which is having on to note. 0ne of dollars of aid which is having on to note. one of the senior leaders said we won't be writing a blank check. there are mixed feelings among republicans. iwas check. there are mixed feelings among republicans. i was looking at statements from senior congressional leaders. 0n the democratic to excite offensive lacey said this is about democracy itself. as senior centre on the democratic side was saying he was an ambassadorfor on the democratic side was saying he was an ambassador for freedom itself. that kind of lofty rhetoric. then a senior republican said this is about cold heart american interest. we have to defeat russia otherwise there will be more crisis in europe. so there are republicans

who believe that i want to keep the aid flowing but there are others who say it is too much and not sustainable and neat so it needs to do more of its share and we need to spend money at home if there is going to be a recession. it would become more difficult to pass aid packages in the new year though it won't stop altogether. with that in mind congress is right now working on a $45 billion charge of increased aid to ukraine which they want to get through before the end of the air. ., ~ , ., get through before the end of the air. ., ~ i. ., ., air. indeed thank you for that barbara. i'm joined now by the former cia chief russia analyst, and director of grand strategy at the us thinktank the quincy institute, george beebe. george thank you forjoining us it is good to see you. first of all what do you think of these voices that are beginning to, you know, be heard in the united states particularly on the republican side. that actually there is a limit to

the amount of support ukraine should get from america? i the amount of support ukraine should get from america?— get from america? i think those voices reflect _ get from america? i think those voices reflect an _ get from america? i think those voices reflect an important - get from america? i think those i voices reflect an important concern about this war. the united states and nato have done a good job of aiding ukraine in its self defence. we have it denied russia the ability to conquer kyiv. we have showing the russians are incapable of seizing and occupying the vast bulk of ukraine so long as we continue this assistance. but keeping the russians at bay does not bring this war to a successful conclusion by itself. so the question we are facing now is how do we transition from the successful defence of ukraine into a plan that will bring this war to an end. the options there are difficult ones. escalating the war, providing ukraine with a kind of offence of capabilities it would require to

drive the russians off of all ukrainian territory is fraught with escalatory risk. he could bring the united states and nato into a direct war with russia. but compromising in some way, which would be required to achieve a negotiated settlement. it is something there is little appetite for in ukraine, in the west, and in russia. so hot we are going to come out of this war with a stable of settlements is a real challenge. i think those voices reflect concerns about that. do you think america _ reflect concerns about that. do you think america should _ reflect concerns about that. do you think america should be _ reflect concerns about that. do you think america should be supplyingl think america should be supplying patriot missile defence systems for instance? there seems to be a debate about that. i don't know if they have an offence of capabilities but they have certainly a good defence. so why is there a debate about those, for instance? i so why is there a debate about those, for instance?— so why is there a debate about those, for instance? i think the debates about _ those, for instance? i think the debates about the _ those, for instance? i think the debates about the patriots i those, for instance? i think the debates about the patriots is i those, for instance? i think the debates about the patriots is a | debates about the patriots is a technical debate. are the ukrainians capable of mastering this advanced

technology. using it effectively on the battlefield? that is what has been holding the united states back until this point. i think our pentagon experts have concluded that the ukrainians have done quite a good job of mastering other advanced systems. so they have grown more confident that the ukrainians can handle the patriot. that said i don't think the picture it is a game changer in this war. it will certainly help ukraine's ability to defend itself against russian attacks. but it is not an offence insisting sub it is not going to drive the russians off ukrainian territory. ii drive the russians off ukrainian territo . ., ., ., ., , territory. if we are going to reap some kind _ territory. if we are going to reap some kind of — territory. if we are going to reap some kind of accommodation i territory. if we are going to reap some kind of accommodation in | territory. if we are going to reap i some kind of accommodation in this work. the only kind of accommodation that vladimir putin suggests he is going to accept is some kind of annexation. wouldn't that mean him

being effectively allowed to hang on to land that he has taken illegally? contravening every single international statutes when it comes to international law? as a result of that isn't that a president that is being set for the future? territory is the more _ being set for the future? territory is the more indestructible - being set for the future? territory is the more indestructible aspect | being set for the future? territory i is the more indestructible aspect of this war. clearly, you can't come away with and into this war in the russians have illegally seized and held vast amounts of ukraine. ukrainians aren't going to accept that. i the same token, unless the russians come out of this with something other than complete humiliation was up they are not going to agree to end the war. so squaring that circle is going to be a difficult thing. there are other aspects of this war that i think can

be addressed diplomatically first. there is a strategic aspect, the relationship between russia and nato. between the us and russian militaries. that is an issue that we are going to have to talk to the russians about. there has to be some sort of compromise on that. if we can find what a way of handling that strategic aspect of the war, it is possible that the territorial issue can be quick kick down the road to some degree. it seems not weird for territorial issues to remain unresolved unless the fighting ends. that might be something. so something like may be deed done best region stays onto the words ends. thank you for your analysis george. members of the scottish parliament

have restarted their debate on proposals aimed at simplifying the process which allows people to legally change their gender. msps are considering more than 150 amendments to the planned legislation, which the scottish government says will ensure dignity for trans people. critics argue the plans are a threat to women and girls. and we can cross to holyrood and our scotland correpsondent lorna gordon i hundred and 50 amendments suggest this is seriously controversial measure. how far are they getting lorna? , ., ., ., , ., lorna? they got through roughly half ofthe lorna? they got through roughly half of the amendments _ lorna? they got through roughly half of the amendments yesterday - lorna? they got through roughly half of the amendments yesterday in i lorna? they got through roughly half of the amendments yesterday in thatj of the amendments yesterday in that marathon sitting in parliament which was widely seen as perhaps the longest sitting of this parliament ever. at the moment, it is looking like today, perhaps, could be longer. we certainly expected to go late into the night. 150 admin mints is a lots of stuff to get through. within the last few minutes we have

hit perhaps one of the most contested areas. a set of amendments with the 2010 quality act. the minister here in scotland who is charged with getting this through ins parliament instruction that changes might be out with the competence of parliament and my point is at risk. a former minister here who is part of the largest rebellion of snp msps seen it since the snp came to part, she resigned at an earlier point in the legislative process because she doesn't agree with this bill. she said to msps that the message being sent out to women and girls is that you don't matter. she added she is going to vote as if women do matter i'm going to vote against the bill. she is part of a group of some woman campaigners who believe that there are safeguarding issues with this

bill that it could allow some predatory men to use the provisions of the bill to access single—sex women only spaces. their concerns are that they want to slow down this process, to put in more amendments. to put in more and safeguarding measures. the scottish government believe there are good safeguarding measures in place in this bill and they believe that transgender people are marginalised, discriminated against in the process needs to be simplified and speed up to help them change their gender on their gender under birth certificate. fii< change their gender on their gender under birth certificate.— under birth certificate. 0k lorna thank you- _ the comedianjoe lycett, who shredded a picture of david beckham over his links to qatar, has confirmed that he played two comedy gigs in the country in 2015. let's get more from our entertainment correspondent colin paterson. 0n the face of it this seems utterly bizarre given the whole brouhaha

about shredding thousands of pounds in public because of dicken beckham being over there and so forth. so what is the bones are are the bones of the story? he was asking david beckham to step back from being an ambassador for qatar given this debt line —— deadline, it is because in qatar, it is illegal to be gay. that is why he was doing it. on the tv show those broadcast last thursday, he's put about david beckham being disgraced for not having responded in david beckham centre statements eventually saying that he was glad to have stimulated debate about key issues surrounding this. he did not mention specifically lgbt issues but he did say surrounding issues. those we can go and then suddenly it is made headlines thatjoejoe lycett played

two comedy shows there in 2015. we have not heard back from him yet but he has put out a statement saying oh, i have been caught in sin, was not trying to hide this, i have written about this in my own book. he brought out a guide to life in 2016 and he said mentioned going to clubs and performing there. he said that he was only paid a few hundred pounds and he was paid by an english promoter. it was not qatar money. he seemed to be saying that this was completely different. but i simply do not understand in this show which is almost an hour long, why did you not to say, i played qatar in 2015 there was a dreadful experience and i really regretted things have to change. as we, he was interviewed by the new york times and talked about it, why did you not mention it in the channel for show? that is what

you want to speak to him in the bad news is we have given them until six o'clock if he does not get back to us, were going to shred £10,000 of your money. us, were going to shred £10,000 of your money-— us, were going to shred £10,000 of our mone . , ., , your money. listen, 24 hour news, he can come to — your money. listen, 24 hour news, he can come to us _ your money. listen, 24 hour news, he can come to us after _ your money. listen, 24 hour news, he can come to us after the _ your money. listen, 24 hour news, he can come to us after the six _ your money. listen, 24 hour news, he can come to us after the six o'clock. can come to us after the six o'clock news and no question about that. but he is an incredibly smart guy and i cannot believe that he did not foresee all of this, bearing in mind that, as you say, it is out that that, as you say, it is out that that human to qatar but he did not mention it during the whole debate about david beckham. i mention it during the whole debate about david beckham.— about david beckham. i don't know what to say- _ about david beckham. i don't know what to say. who's _ about david beckham. i don't know what to say. who's advising - about david beckham. i don't know what to say. who's advising him i about david beckham. i don't know what to say. who's advising him or| what to say. who's advising him or is this just another stunt? is this the next show? is he going to do a show about becoming public enemy number one? it is interesting. beneath the tweets that he is his fans are very divided over this. there are a lot of disappointed people if this is a stone, this is a

really risky one because there are people who are angry and the word hypocrite is getting used a lot. we look forward to hearing from joe. do you have the shutter ready? the shredder is ready and i do not want to lose my money or 20p of it. right, we're going to get some sports news now and from the bbc sport centre, katz is there. some the biggest names in sport will be coming together to celebrate the achievements of stars who have made a real difference tonight. the 2022 bbc sports personality awards will be getting underway in just over an hour live on the bbc with a shortlist of six candidates. let's cross to sarah mulkerrins — so who has been arriving on the red carpet so far? the atmosphere is building here and a lot of the athletes have been talking about the fact that it's quite nice after the last couple of

years of not having big events like this that they're able to come here tonight and see everybody and celebrate what is been a jam—packed a momentous year in sport. they've been coming onto the red carpets from about five o'clock, we've seen lots of them coming through and some of the nominees which i will run you through shortly but we have the english manager and when the heroes of the home soil at wembley during the summer and we have seenjessica and chris hoyer in here. cricketers and chris hoyer in here. cricketers and rugby players and there is certainly an anticipation building or the way down the red carpet and people are being interviewed by media and outlets and big screens is well behind me which are shown below those big moments that we have all enjoyed in sport over the last 12 months. we did have the minute to speak to her and we asked her about her reflections now coming to the end of a big yearfor her and her

england team. i5 end of a big year for her and her england team-— england team. is the realisation that we have — england team. is the realisation that we have done _ england team. is the realisation that we have done and - england team. is the realisation that we have done and been i england team. is the realisation l that we have done and been given england team. is the realisation i that we have done and been given so many— that we have done and been given so many athletes and we are celebrating sports _ many athletes and we are celebrating sports in _ many athletes and we are celebrating sports in england and that is really nice and _ sports in england and that is really nice and yes, we had a fantastic year— nice and yes, we had a fantastic year the — nice and yes, we had a fantastic year the team and yet, winning the euros _ year the team and yet, winning the euros is _ year the team and yet, winning the euros is very— year the team and yet, winning the euros is very special and i will never— euros is very special and i will never forget it. and no one will forget — never forget it. and no one will forget it— never forget it. and no one will forget it but with the team, this is been _ forget it but with the team, this is been really— forget it but with the team, this is been really special. it was more than _ been really special. it was more than i _ been really special. it was more than i expected but it surprised me a little _ than i expected but it surprised me a little bit — than i expected but it surprised me a little bit and everyone is so energetic. something to be really proud _ energetic. something to be really proud of— energetic. something to be really proud of and yeah, i am glad we are moving _ proud of and yeah, i am glad we are moving on — and we know there's a shortlist of six contenders for the sports personality of the year. just run us through who they are. to be six people on the awards. i will tell you those six nominees

are. the nominees, you get all the details of the nine o'clock when the winter is due and you run to those nominees and if the 18—year—old gymnast who won three metals at the world championships this year and bronze in the all—around and really notable and british athlete and we have beth in the england team who won the euros and what a phenomenal performance and scored six goals, player of the tournament was the golden boot and being nominated by various football awards and the third of our nominees for this and a brilliant career as a scottish curler and it's been various 0lympics over the years and was finally able to cling a gold medal

in beijing back in february with the one that had been missing from this, now retired and since then, ronnie 0'sullivan keeps breaking records and snicker. winning a seventh world title at the crucible earlier this year and stephen increase record and 46 years old, became the oldest person to do that. and we have been stokes at the t20 world cup winning cricket team in australia just about a month ago and promoted to captain of the testing and went to a torrid time previous to his tenure and one when in 17 and is really turned things around. nine out of ten since then, the most recent test series win, 3—0 win in pakistan. and jake whiteman, the athlete who surprised

everyone, i think in oregon when he won gold in the 1500 metres, beating the legendary favourite for that title. he then went on to win silver the 800 metres in munich at the europeans before that, it was such a busy summer. 1500 metre bronze in the commonwealth games and so those are the six nominees and will be able to watch that from six 45 and all the details will be on there in the bt sport website.— all the details will be on there in the bt sport website. thank you very much and we — the bt sport website. thank you very much and we are _ the bt sport website. thank you very much and we are looking _ the bt sport website. thank you very much and we are looking forward i the bt sport website. thank you very much and we are looking forward to i much and we are looking forward to it indeed and that is all the support for now. back to you. the sharing of passwords for online

streaming services such as netflix may be illegal, that's according to the intellectual property office. the government body says the practice, common among friends and families, breaks copyright law. netflix have never indicated they'd take legal action against anyone caught sharing their account, but have said they'll be rolling out new features next year to make sharing easier, including more fees. so, what does all this mean? joining me now is technology journalist chris stokel—walker, and senior lecturer in intellectual property law, hayleigh bosher. and qfor and q forjoining us at first of all, do you agree that this could be all, do you agree that this could be a legal? i all, do you agree that this could be a leual? ~ all, do you agree that this could be aleaal? ~ . , a legal? i think technically there are, it is hard _ a legal? i think technically there are, it is hard to _ a legal? i think technically there are, it is hard to say. _ a legal? i think technically there are, it is hard to say. i - a legal? i think technically there are, it is hard to say. ithink- are, it is hard to say. i think definitely there are some, when you have your netflix subscription, you have your netflix subscription, you have a contract with netflix and in those terms, they say do not share your password. and the other things that they mention, it will only be in specific circumstances like being

get a criminal offence, that it would be different. chris, do you give out your password? i would be different. chris, do you give out your password?- give out your password? i could suddenly find _ give out your password? i could suddenly find myself _ give out your password? i could suddenly find myself arrested i give out your password? i could | suddenly find myself arrested in give out your password? i could i suddenly find myself arrested in i said so _ suddenly find myself arrested in i said so. we suddenly find myself arrested in i said so. ~ �* , ., , said so. we weren't sure if it was illeual, said so. we weren't sure if it was illegal. so _ said so. we weren't sure if it was illegal. so your — said so. we weren't sure if it was illegal, so your fine. _ said so. we weren't sure if it was illegal, so your fine. my - said so. we weren't sure if it was| illegal, so your fine. my girlfriend will be using _ illegal, so your fine. my girlfriend will be using my _ illegal, so your fine. my girlfriend will be using my netflix _ illegal, so your fine. my girlfriend will be using my netflix account i will be using my netflix account there _ will be using my netflix account there and — will be using my netflix account there and i will keep an eye out for there and i will keep an eye out for the police — there and i will keep an eye out for the police at the door. i'm not alone — the police at the door. i'm not alone so _ the police at the door. i'm not alone. so many households believe share _ alone. so many households believe share this, — alone. so many households believe share this, they release the data when _ share this, they release the data when they— share this, they release the data when they were trying to crack down on this _ when they were trying to crack down on this this— when they were trying to crack down on this. this is something that happens — on this. this is something that happens and it's something that is 'ust happens and it's something that is just a _ happens and it's something that is just a reality. people sharing the passwords and even the culture secretary — passwords and even the culture secretary said she gave her password to her— secretary said she gave her password to her children, it's reality that this happens. it's unfortunate but i don't _ this happens. it's unfortunate but i don't think— this happens. it's unfortunate but i don't think police don't waste their time at _ don't think police don't waste their time at this stuff but one suspects and maybe not netflix either given

that so— and maybe not netflix either given that so many people do it and infect with their trying to do is make it a little _ with their trying to do is make it a little easier. make some money out of it, _ little easier. make some money out of it. put— little easier. make some money out of it, put the fees up that would make _ of it, put the fees up that would make sense, when did? they realise this opportunity there in various different— this opportunity there in various different countries and the idea that you — different countries and the idea that you can pay users and five users — that you can pay users and five users that _ that you can pay users and five users that you can have on anyone accounts _ users that you can have on anyone accounts of — users that you can have on anyone accounts of parents who want to watch _ accounts of parents who want to watch some things that the churches may be _ watch some things that the churches may be wooden. but you can and it seems _ may be wooden. but you can and it seems like — may be wooden. but you can and it seems like a — may be wooden. but you can and it seems like a sensible halfway house rather _ seems like a sensible halfway house rather than — seems like a sensible halfway house rather than trying to track people into police — rather than trying to track people into police stations and into court into police stations and into court in order— into police stations and into court in order to — into police stations and into court in order to try to litigate this. if i in order to try to litigate this. if i -et in order to try to litigate this. i get a in order to try to litigate this. if i get a family plan, media, the wife and three kids, five less and instead of having one of the kids in the family plan, i have my friend in belfast doing that. that's a part of the family plan that i'm paying for is that illegal? the

the family plan that i'm paying for is that illegal?— is that illegal? the idea of the family plan — is that illegal? the idea of the family plan according - is that illegal? the idea of the family plan according to i is that illegal? the idea of the family plan according to the i is that illegal? the idea of the i family plan according to the netflix licence that's about households and technically, that's not really 0k. they would rather is that each household have their own with her trying to do is make it easierfor individual users to create their own profiles and make it more user—friendly to do that and they're trying to make it per household is what the licence says but as you said, netflix are really unlikely to ever enforce that contract in accord because they do not want to sue their customers. of them want to do is find a way to make it easier and encourage people to want to pay for their own household subscriptions. why do you think international property officers have come up with this? what is behind this? it’s a this? what is behind this? it's a bit of an odd — this? what is behind this? it's a bit of an odd one _ this? what is behind this? it's a bit of an odd one but _ this? what is behind this? it's a bit of an odd one but the - this? what is behind this? it�*s a. bit of an odd one but the thing about this, the property off thought about this, the property off thought about aborting the integrity and therefore, registering the report

therefore, registering the report the value in all areas, creative institutes and it's about understanding that sometimes if you like it doesn't matter, i repaid a subscription, doesn't matter to give it to somebody else and the point is, i think it's that, it's important that we pay for these services because there is value in the things that we are getting netflix to invest more and creating more great tv and film documentaries. forthem, it's about appointing integrity and i think they may have come on a bit strong but i see where they're coming from. one suspects given the cost of 0ne suspects given the cost of living crisis comes in many households are having difficulty paying the three subscription services that they may have had in the good times now, it's probably down to one. we will probably see more sharing rather than less in the future, partly because megan netflix perhaps cotton onto that? subscription fatigue is real thing you think— subscription fatigue is real thing

you think about some of your favourite _ you think about some of your favourite series and some of them will be _ favourite series and some of them will be on — favourite series and some of them will be on one service and one will be on _ will be on one service and one will be on another. and it will be very useful— be on another. and it will be very useful as — be on another. and it will be very useful as well and bundled into a licence _ useful as well and bundled into a licence fee but it does seem pretty obvious— licence fee but it does seem pretty obvious that this is going to happen _ obvious that this is going to happen. we do not want to go too far into cracking — happen. we do not want to go too far into cracking down on this because she didn't — into cracking down on this because she didn't push people to illegal websites rather than sharing their passwords instead, they go to places we can— passwords instead, they go to places we can get— passwords instead, they go to places we can get the stuff completely free without _ we can get the stuff completely free without using a password and that opens— without using a password and that opens its — without using a password and that opens its own risks because there also sorts— opens its own risks because there also sorts of viruses and malware that can — also sorts of viruses and malware that can be — also sorts of viruses and malware that can be installed on your computer if you do that. so, i would much _ computer if you do that. so, i would much rather— computer if you do that. so, i would much rather have the gray area of using _ much rather have the gray area of using passwords and friends and family— using passwords and friends and family rather than directing people to these _ family rather than directing people to these pretty bad websites with this outright piracy and nobody gets any money— this outright piracy and nobody gets any money at all. this outright piracy and nobody gets any money at all-— any money at all. good to see you both and thank— any money at all. good to see you both and thank you _ any money at all. good to see you both and thank you for _ any money at all. good to see you both and thank you forjoining i any money at all. good to see you both and thank you forjoining us. |

any money at all. good to see you | both and thank you forjoining us. j ambulance workers on strike over dispute over pay as they criticise the prime minister for dispute over pay as they criticise the prime ministerfor not being willing to negotiate. the man who murdered his pregnant partner and three children last year will spend the rest of his life in jail. president zelensky is due in washington and the next few hours that's his first trip abroad since russia invaded ukraine in february. the body representing many of britain's pubs, says a majority are considering cutting opening hours this winter, because of staff shortages and rising energy bills. the british beer and pub association, says more than 85 per cent of public houses, are considering closing for at least one day a week. bbc analysis has also found that 331 food service firms, like cafes, pubs and catering companies, say they're going bankrupt, filing for insolvency in november. that's up 57 per cent

compared to the same time last year. in all, well over 6,000 hospitality firms, have begun insolvency proceedings, since 2020. with more, here's our business reporter, noor nanji. it might be an early night. it p.m. tonight instead of ten. 0ne it might be an early night. it p.m. tonight instead of ten. one of a range of measures it's taking to keep going. we range of measures it's taking to keep going-— range of measures it's taking to kee uaoin.~ _, ., , ., keep going. we start of seven days a week and opening — keep going. we start of seven days a week and opening continuously i keep going. we start of seven days a week and opening continuously so i week and opening continuously so people can pop in and exactly, that did not happen and so we were busy, predominantly thursday to sunday and so we reflected that by closing our kitchen on monday, tuesday and wednesday interesting open as normal. if no one comes in, etc, step have got the choice come if they know there is no regulars coming in that they can close early because at the end of the day, does cost quite a bit of money to keep this building heated, etc. popping

into a local— this building heated, etc. popping into a local pub _ this building heated, etc. popping into a local pub in _ this building heated, etc. popping into a local pub in a _ this building heated, etc. popping into a local pub in a time - this building heated, etc. popping into a local pub in a time of- this building heated, etc. popping into a local pub in a time of day i into a local pub in a time of day and ordering a drink or some food, p°p�*up5 and ordering a drink or some food, pop—ups like this one, the cost of staying open on the day arising. many pups also do not have enough staff to keep the doors open. a new survey seen by the bbc found 86% of pubs are considering reducing training hours over the winter. 85 are considering closing completely on one or two days a week. in the form that more support is needed otherwise many more businesses will be forced to close, notjust temporarily but for good. s is a really difficult times, extremely difficult decisions, they want to stay open and abide that warm place for consumers to come into this winter about the same time, they are experiencing soaring inflation and eye watering energy bills and these costs are really eradicating in the chance whatsoever. to this,

including energy bills, the decision on extending that support will not be made into the new year. it is also introducing relief on business rates and extending a freeze on alcohol duty. back at the pub, customers understand what's having to change its hours. it’s customers understand what's having to change its hours.— to change its hours. it's very sad for both the _ to change its hours. it's very sad for both the customer— to change its hours. it's very sad for both the customer and i to change its hours. it's very sad for both the customer and for. to change its hours. it's very sad| for both the customer and for the people _ for both the customer and for the people who — for both the customer and for the people who work _ for both the customer and for the people who work here _ for both the customer and for the people who work here and - for both the customer and for thei people who work here and provide excellent — people who work here and provide excellent service. _ people who work here and provide excellent service.— excellent service. understand why the 're excellent service. understand why they're doing _ excellent service. understand why they're doing it. — excellent service. understand why they're doing it, but _ excellent service. understand why they're doing it, but you _ excellent service. understand why they're doing it, but you need i excellent service. understand why they're doing it, but you need a i they're doing it, but you need a place to meet up and you need to get out and you need to participate with other people. for out and you need to participate with other people-— out and you need to participate with other people. for now, the message is clear, other people. for now, the message is clear. get — other people. for now, the message is clear. get your _ other people. for now, the message is clear, get your orders _ other people. for now, the message is clear, get your orders in _ other people. for now, the message is clear, get your orders in early. i tens of thousands of ambulance workers, including paramedics and call handlers, are on strike in england and wales, as part of their dispute over pay and conditions. health officials warn patient safety is at risk, while the unions say ambulance crews will respond to life

threatening emergencies. the industrial action began at midnight across wales, the west midlands and the north of england. then, from six o'clock this morning, it extended to the east midlands and the south. the east of england and the isle of wight are unaffected. improved pay off are there but the members voted that down and that is clearly not boding well for this in england and northern ireland and is less than what is been offered to those in scotland. i less than what is been offered to those in scotland.— those in scotland. i think the situation in _ those in scotland. i think the situation in england - those in scotland. i think the situation in england is - those in scotland. i think the | situation in england is slightly different as the government has not come back to the table and starting negotiations with the unions. i think the ball is watching the prime minister's court, the health secretary is probably done as much as he can do at the moment and i think a lot of it actually in england would depend on the back bench, conservative mps will see a lot of the sum this coming out

already and some of them have been calling for the government to be more flexible when it comes to this but i think of mps particularly in the 1920s want to start putting pressure on the prime minister and onjeremy hunt, perhaps they can be forced to think again on pay and it's very interesting and does suggest that there could be some room for negotiation and does make unions rejected the paid deal with those accepted it as well. the dealer has — those accepted it as well. the dealer has been _ those accepted it as well. the dealer has been put on the table in scotland is not on the table in england but what you're suggesting is that actually, it will be pressure from the public, on their mps and pressure from mps on the government that might actually yield something here. i government that might actually yield something here.— something here. i think that's absolutely — something here. i think that's absolutely right _ something here. i think that's absolutely right and _ something here. i think that's absolutely right and i - something here. i think that's absolutely right and i think i something here. i think that's| absolutely right and i think the government isn't quite a fragile position at the moment and is not performing well in the polls, it's you turned in the past and they could do it again and perhaps that

could do it again and perhaps that could win back some voters in the sycamore consulate tory tone and we will sit down and talk about pain because as it stands, pay us completely off the table. their calculation. — completely off the table. their calculation, rishi _ completely off the table. their calculation, rishi sunak i completely off the table. their calculation, rishi sunak and i completely off the table. their| calculation, rishi sunak and so completely off the table. their calculation, rishi sunak and so on, that we are the party of this but we do not have the money and do not know where to get the money from and the rest of the country is having to knuckle down. why can't these public—sector workers, doesn't that carry some weight to some voters too? i carry some weight to some voters too? ~ , , . ., too? i think this is the context that is very — too? i think this is the context that is very important. - too? i think this is the context that is very important. we i too? i think this is the context that is very important. we are j that is very important. we are emerging from the pandemic and the nhs workers have gone through a very difficult time and worked incredibly hard and are under a lot of danger. nhs workers died during the pandemic and i think pay decline, we have seen that as well and that's been happening over a number of years this has been talked about by various unions and the loss of detail. and i really think that the

argument of everyone struggling at the moment, doesn't really wash and it's very short—term approach to take that view and they want to retain staff in the nhs and attract more staff into the nhs, they really need to start talking about paying about conditions. the need to start talking about paying about conditions.— need to start talking about paying about conditions. the public, at the moment on — about conditions. the public, at the moment on the _ about conditions. the public, at the moment on the side _ about conditions. the public, at the moment on the side of— about conditions. the public, at the moment on the side of the - about conditions. the public, at the moment on the side of the nurses i about conditions. the public, at the i moment on the side of the nurses and they feel that perhaps they should be some improved offer put on the table and looking at other disputes, the real work would say perhaps public sentiment is a little softer when it comes to supporting them. but is there a danger in the government perhaps deciding 0k, we are going to give the nurses a little bit more of what they want. when that, on the face of it set a precedent that preps the world workers can say, you cannot do that with the nurse workers, or the other services. that is the problem the government has. i

services. that is the problem the government has.— services. that is the problem the government has. i cannot speak to rail workers _ government has. i cannot speak to rail workers but _ government has. i cannot speak to rail workers but i _ government has. i cannot speak to rail workers but i would _ government has. i cannot speak to rail workers but i would say - government has. i cannot speak to rail workers but i would say that i government has. i cannot speak to rail workers but i would say that is| rail workers but i would say that is the public are very sympathetic, and to ambulance staff, it's notjust about nurses and nhs staff that have decided to strike, i think perhaps they have a different sympathy with they have a different sympathy with the public as others so the sacrifices they made during the pandemic and that still very fresh in peoples minds. do pandemic and that still very fresh in peoples minds.— in peoples minds. do you believe that there is _ in peoples minds. do you believe that there is any, _ in peoples minds. do you believe that there is any, is _ in peoples minds. do you believe that there is any, is there - in peoples minds. do you believe that there is any, is there any i that there is any, is there any avenue through constructive negotiations? is this the type of dispute that will go well into next year? i dispute that will go well into next ear? ~ �* , dispute that will go well into next ear? ~' �* , ., dispute that will go well into next ear? ~ �* , ., ., year? i think it's down to the prime minister and _ year? i think it's down to the prime minister and the _ year? i think it's down to the prime minister and the unions _ year? i think it's down to the prime minister and the unions and - year? i think it's down to the prime minister and the unions and made i year? i think it's down to the prime| minister and the unions and made it very clear that they could be happy to meet in the middle and they talked about scotland and the figure that they gave was 19% in scotland

was shown that they have may compromise if the prime minister was unwilling to compromise more strikes will be looming injanuary and over the next six months. will be looming in january and over the next six months.— the next six months. what kind of fiaure do the next six months. what kind of figure do you _ the next six months. what kind of figure do you think— the next six months. what kind of figure do you think they _ the next six months. what kind of figure do you think they might i the next six months. what kind of. figure do you think they might have if it's a 19%. i figure do you think they might have if it's a 19%-— if it's a 19%. i cannot speak to that. if it's a 19%. i cannot speak to that- these — if it's a 19%. i cannot speak to that. these negotiations- if it's a 19%. i cannot speak to that. these negotiations i i if it's a 19%. i cannot speak to i that. these negotiations i know that within unions want and they repeated this again and again, the talk about pay at any point and steve was reformed this morning and that the today programme and rishi sunak of chancellor. . ., ., today programme and rishi sunak of chancellor. .. ., ., ,, today programme and rishi sunak of chancellor. ., ., ,, ., chancellor. there came to talk about workin: chancellor. there came to talk about working conditions _ chancellor. there came to talk about working conditions we _ chancellor. there came to talk about working conditions we know - chancellor. there came to talk about working conditions we know that i working conditions we know that ambulance workers and nurses have talked about the difficulties and the pressures and strains and so on. do you understand why the government is saying that yes, we're going to talk about all that other stuff but not about pay? i

talk about all that other stuff but not about pay?— not about pay? i think pay links into that. those _ not about pay? i think pay links into that. those working - not about pay? i think pay links into that. those working in - not about pay? i think pay links into that. those working in the | not about pay? i think pay links - into that. those working in the nhs, pays more attractive and it's easier to retain people and people who trust leaders, hospital leaders, they lose staff because they have better pay, better conditions, better pay, better conditions, better morale at work and they've been waiting for a long time in the pandemic is made it worse and talking about winter pressures on the nhs and the pressures all year round and i think pay and conditions go hand—in—hand and to separate them. in conditions that they have to talk about it and pay as well. good to see you, annabelle. the six o'clock news but now it's time to look at the weather news. we've had

another day of say showers but the shadows of been quite heavy in the north there've been some rumbles of thunder around of the top of the mountain and it's not his cold as last week. we look at the radar you can see more rain coming in across southern counties to this evening as well and the roughest weather is a go to the evening and overnight and in between, clear skies and temperatures falling away with the decree or to of freezing and largely frost free but there can be quite a lot of spray and southern areas to contend with in showers in the north tending to ease a little bit and going towards the morning, clear skies and the best of sunshine if you like because of the south, how far north across england and wales, generally quite a lot of low clouds and drizzle is an downpour is the heaviest rain and heading towards the south and treasures across scotland and northern ireland in

northern england and generally later when some brisk northerly and temperatures here around the time of year and as you can see, it is mild for the south and that lessons until the start of christmas weekend and half an hour.

today at six... tens of thousands of ambulance workers on strike in england and wales and a bitter war of words between ministers and the unions. almost all trusts in england and all in wales have been affected. the health secretary said the unions had taken "a conscious choice to inflict harm on patients". this is a point when the system is already facing very significant pressure, that is the point at which the trade unions have chosen to take industrial action. on a normal day patients are suffering because there are 20 ambulances at every a&e department, so there are no ambulances to respond to the public, so patients are suffering every day.

we will be looking at what ambulance workers want