this is bbc news with the latest headlines. the global financial institution the imf is predicting the uk to be the only major economy to shrink in 2023 — but says the government is shifting in the right direction. five years after a report into the treatment of the families of the hillsborough disaster, the author criticises the government, saying it's intolerable that it still hasn't responded. ministers set out a plan to improve nature in england — but campaigners have questioned whether it goes far enough to stop the loss of wildlife. under its new plan the government says everyone will live within 15 mins walk of a green space or water. do you currently have access to nature? let me know how

important this is to you on twitter @annitabbc #bbcyour questions "united in music" — the slogan for this year's eurovision contest is unveiled as the official eurovsion handover ceremony takes place today in liverpool. and coming up — on the third anniversary of brexit, we'll have a special phone in on the impact. my colleague nicky campbell will be asking what your experience has been so far, in the next half an hour. hello and welcome to bbc news. the uk economy is due to get smaller this year and do worse than other major nations, including russia — that's according to the world's most important international financial organisation, the

international monetary fund. it predicts the uk economy will shrink by 0.6% this year. it believes the uk will be the only country among the world's major economies to see its economy get smaller. it says its forecast reflects the uk's high energy prices, high inflation and high interest rates. the us, germany, france, italy and japan are all expected to grow. but there is a note of optimisim — the imf believes things will improve in 2024, forecasting the economy will grow by 0.9%. the chancellorjeremy hunt has said that "the uk outperformed many forecasts last year — and that if we stick to our plan to halve inflation, the uk is still predicted to grow faster than germany and japan over the coming years." let's speak now to our economics correspondent, andy verity. good morning. first of all, tell us in a little more detail the reasons

behind the imf forecast for the uk economy. it behind the imf forecast for the uk econom . , , ., economy. it is interesting, for exam - le economy. it is interesting, for example it — economy. it is interesting, for example it says _ economy. it is interesting, for example it says we _ economy. it is interesting, for example it says we are - economy. it is interesting, for example it says we are quite i example it says we are quite dependent on gas prices and other economies are too, germany and italy are much more dependent on gas from russia than the uk, but i think what it is focusing on its retail prices and the fact that although there has been some government support, it has not been as generous as in other countries so the high prices we are paying for energy will mean consumers have less to spend on everything else, meaning less economic activity in other areas and thatis economic activity in other areas and that is one reason why they predict we will be the only economy to shrink. this is a substantial downgrade, to be clear, from six months ago, one year ago, partly because of deliberate policies. fiscal and monetary policy, the fact that interest rates are rising and

tax policy is taking money out of the economy rather than putting it back into the economy, that means that we the households and firms have less money to spend on everything else. the have less money to spend on everything else.— have less money to spend on everything else. have less money to spend on eve hinu else. ., , ., everything else. the report does not mention brexit, _ everything else. the report does not mention brexit, is _ everything else. the report does not mention brexit, is that _ everything else. the report does not mention brexit, is that there - everything else. the report does not mention brexit, is that there are - everything else. the report does not mention brexit, is that there are a i mention brexit, is that there are a surprise. mention brexit, is that there are a surrise. , ., , ., , ., surprise. there is only a small amount of _ surprise. there is only a small amount of analysis _ surprise. there is only a small amount of analysis and - surprise. there is only a small| amount of analysis and debate surprise. there is only a small. amount of analysis and debate -- amount of analysis and debate —— individual waiting, amount of analysis and debate —— individualwaiting, i amount of analysis and debate —— individual waiting, i am sure the imf will have a lot to say about brexit and other factors unique to the uk but they have not specifically mentioned brexit as a factor, it is the fact policy is geared to trying to dampen down inflation. we have higher inflation inflation. we have higher inflation in the uk than most other countries in the uk than most other countries in advanced economies, still more than io%, still double digits, in the united states it has gone well down to less than 7% and similarly in other euro area countries, so that higher inflation means the bank of england has to work harder by raising interest rates in order to

take money out of the economy and take money out of the economy and take some of the heat out of edge, some of the upward pressure on prices. fiscal policy, the government says it has a plan to tackle inflation and what that effectively means there is a keep saying we can't afford this, this and that, meaning it is putting less money into the economy than it otherwise would and that is one of the reasons there is less money for everybody to spend and why the imf projects we will be the weakest economy for growth next year of any advanced economy, notjust the g7 but the top 15 most developed countries. it is really striking that they predict that russia will grow in spite of all the international sanctions, whereas our economy won't. international sanctions, whereas our economy won't-— economy won't. finally and briefly, when a big — economy won't. finally and briefly, when a big organisation _ economy won't. finally and briefly, when a big organisation like - economy won't. finally and briefly, when a big organisation like the - economy won't. finally and briefly, | when a big organisation like the imf puts together a forecast for the uk economy like this, what sort of impact will that have on the average person? it impact will that have on the average erson? , ., , ., ., .,

person? it is only a forecast, in a wa the person? it is only a forecast, in a way the answer _ person? it is only a forecast, in a way the answer to _ person? it is only a forecast, in a way the answer to that _ person? it is only a forecast, in a way the answer to that is - person? it is only a forecast, in a way the answer to that is zero, . person? it is only a forecast, in a way the answer to that is zero, it| way the answer to that is zero, it is an economist forecasting what will happen. what will impact the average person watching this is that the fiscal policies of the government and interest rates. we expect the bank of england's monetary policy committee this week to make a decision on interest rates, only a minority, less than 10% of households, have variable rate interest rates so they might see their interest rates go up immediately, but as we have seen in the last few months, if interest rates are expected to be higher over the next two or three years, that means when you come off your fixed rate mortgage you could pay more, thatis rate mortgage you could pay more, that is how it could affect ordinary families. �* , , ., ~ that is how it could affect ordinary families. �* , , . ~' , ., joining me now is our political correspondent, nick eardley. good morning. tell us more about how the government is responding to this. ,., ., the government is responding to this. , ., ., ., the government is responding to this. ,., ., ., , ., this. good morning. the message from the treasury — this. good morning. the message from the treasury this _ this. good morning. the message from the treasury this morning _ this. good morning. the message from the treasury this morning as _ this. good morning. the message from

the treasury this morning as they - the treasury this morning as they accept there are short—term challenges. i think they are trying to be more optimistic about longer term visions. the primary thing that the chancellor and the prime minister keep saying at every opportunity as they think getting inflation down is absolutely key, that will help with the cost of living, with mortgages that andy verity was just talking about and help to get the uk economy back on track. there is a debate playing out at westminster, increasingly publicly on the front page of some of the conservative supporting newspapers with some conservative mps suggesting tax cuts are essential if this is going to boost growth. i think the chances of those calls being heated in the budget in march are slim to none. rishi sunak and the chancellorjeremy hunt has proven to be quite stubborn when it comes to sticking to their plan.

there is a debate about strategy, the labour party saying the government's growth plan is not good enough, but they have a better one that would be based on green growth instead. what i think you will hear from ministers today is a message that there is a short—term challenge, the longer term prospect is better that they will caveat that by saying longer term prospects are only better in the short term —— if the short term plan and structure, meaning focusing on inflation. i suppose you have to wonder how long the government and say, and jeremy hunt did this at the end of last week, that the uk, like other major economies, is facing global headwinds when most of those other major economies, according to the imf, are predicted to do better than the uk. i imf, are predicted to do better than the uk. 4' imf, are predicted to do better than the uk. ~ ., �* , imf, are predicted to do better than theuk. ~ ., , the uk. i think that it's absolutely true and certainly _ the uk. i think that it's absolutely true and certainly an _ the uk. i think that it's absolutely true and certainly an argument. the uk. i think that it's absolutely l true and certainly an argument you can accept from opposition parties,

this is notjust about the impact of the pandemic, notjust about some of the pandemic, notjust about some of the economic challenges with inflation, it is also, labour would argue for example, about the conservative party's management of the economy. there is a big debate about how best to make sure the uk gets back on its economic feature, i think it will be a defining debate of the next 18 months in the run—up to a general election probably late next year but the eminent challenge i thinkjeremy hunt faces from his own party is that one of what you do about tax cuts —— at the eminent challenge. he is appearing at a 1922 committee meeting this afternoon and i would fully expect some backbenchers who are exercised about tax cuts to bring that up, they would say what they call the tax burden is too high and they would argue that needs to come down so there is more money for people to

spend to get the economy moving again. the government does not agree and the calculation it has made as if you get inflation down, people will have more money to spend. i don't think people will change their mind on that. don't think people will change their mind on that-— mind on that. thank you, nick eardle , mind on that. thank you, nick eardley. our— mind on that. thank you, nick eardley, our political - eardley, our political correspondent. we can speak now to yael selfin, chief economist at the global accountancy firm kpmg. good to have you with us, just the imf's good to have you with us, just the imf�*s forecast for it with kpmg's? they are actually a little more optimistic than us and quite a few other analysts to expect the economy to shrink by more like 0.9% at this stage, although dato keeps coming. we could see changes, these are just forecasts at the start of the year. i wanted to put it into context in the sense that this is a relatively mild contraction. if you look at the

recession that we are expected to see in the uk, we are expecting peak to trough, output to fall by around 1.6, 1.7, relatively to trough, output to fall by around 1.6,1.7, relatively mild to trough, output to fall by around 1.6, 1.7, relatively mild compared to even the early 90s recession where there was a contraction of 2.75 and more than double that during the great recession of 2008, 2009. so even though we are seeing a slowdown in the uk and it may be worse than other countries, it is still not a major recession that we expect this year. still not a major recession that we exoect this year-— expect this year. that is the more ositive expect this year. that is the more positive outlook. _ expect this year. that is the more positive outlook. why _ expect this year. that is the more positive outlook. why are - expect this year. that is the more positive outlook. why are we - expect this year. that is the more positive outlook. why are we now| expect this year. that is the more - positive outlook. why are we now are seeing this differential between the uk economy and other major economies? tell us your thoughts are not specifically. irate economies? tell us your thoughts are not specifically-— not specifically. we have a backdrop of weaker economic _ not specifically. we have a backdrop of weaker economic momentum - of weaker economic momentum globally. it is unfortunate the uk is just facing more globally. it is unfortunate the uk isjust facing more headwinds, potentially, in total balance of

other countries, for example in europe generally we are facing higher energy costs and based on the way the energy market works in the uk we have higher retail energy costs too. we have not necessarily felt this in the us as much. there are slightly higher interest rates, the bank of england has raised interest rates and we are likely to see higher interest rates in the uk than in the rest of europe for the rest of this year and potentially even further, and we have ever headwinds, the labour market, the housing market, which you have already talked about, where we are more exposed to the rise in interest rates because of the way our mortgage market works, other countries, their mortgages tend to be fixed for longer. we have a big

proportion of mortgages fixed but for a relatively short duration of between two and five years, so even though not everyone will be exposed immediately, as andy said, within a year we could see 50% of mortgage holders exposed to a rise in interest rates and they are potentially already factoring that into their spending decisions. there is more here that makes it more vulnerable, if you like. after? vulnerable, if you like. very briefl , vulnerable, if you like. very briefly, when _ vulnerable, if you like. very briefly, when the _ vulnerable, if you like. very l briefly, when the government vulnerable, if you like. very briefly, when the government talks about growth, we are hearing businesses want more clarity around trading arrangements with the eu. what specific policies does the government need to deliver to turn this around, briefly, if you would? in order to encourage business investment you need more clarity in terms of the environment and also trading relationships. the more clarity we can have, the better.

yael selfin, thank you very much, chief economist at kpmg. the author of a report written five years ago about the hillsborough disaster has said it's intolerable that the government still hasn't responded to the document. 97 people died as a a result of the crush on the terraces at the sheffield wednesday ground in 1989. bishopjamesjones wrote his review about the experiences of the hillsborough families in 2017. later today police will become the first major public body to respond to the report. judith moritz reports. the horror of hillsborough continues to be felt almost 3a years after the crush on the terraces that killed 97 liverpool supporters. police failures were the main cause of the disaster, but the fans were wrongly blamed and, for years, theirfamilies fought forjustice. # walk on, walk on with hope...# in 2016, they rejoiced when fresh inquests returned verdicts of unlawful killing.

the former bishop of liverpool, jamesjones, was then commissioned to write a report about the experience of the hillsborough families to ensure their pain and suffering wouldn't be repeated. the government is yet to respond. i think we have to put ourselves in the shoes of the families. this year, it will be 3a years since the tragedy. and for them to wait for so long for a response to these 25 points of learning is intolerable and adds to their pain and, i think, in some instances, even affects their own grieving. let's hope that's only the beginning of what's going to be done. margaret aspinall, whose sonjames was killed, is one of those who has campaigned on behalf of the hillsborough families. she is also critical of the time it's taken to hear from government. i rememberwriting — idon't know who it was to,

to somebody in government — to say i hope this report does not get put on a shelf gathering dust for years, like other things in the past have done. we are now into 2023. how long does it take to read a report, to come out with the findings or what you think should happen? when bishopjames published this report in 2017, he made 25 recommendations, just under half of which were directed at the police. today, there will be the first national police response to it and, i understand, for the first time, an apology issued on behalf of all of the police forces in england and wales. there are calls for there to be a hillsborough law which would help victims of future mass tragedies. the government says it will publish its response to the bishop's report in due course. the government has revealed its blueprint for how

to clean up air and water, boost nature and reduce waste in england by 2030. under the 25—year environmental plan, everyone will live within 15 minutes' walk of a green space or water, habitat for wildlife will be expanded and there will be 25 new or enlarged national nature reserves and more money will go to protecting rare wildlife, such as hedgehogs and red squirrels. joining me now is our climate editor, justin rowlatt. good morning, just in. the independent office for environmental protection said government efforts to improve england's environment and protect nature are far short of what is needed. there is a frequent failure to meet its own legally binding targets, its report said. what will this plan due to try to change that? the what will this plan due to try to change that?— what will this plan due to try to chance that? ., . ., , ., , change that? the overall ambition is to halt and reverse _

change that? the overall ambition is to halt and reverse the _ change that? the overall ambition is to halt and reverse the decline - change that? the overall ambition is to halt and reverse the decline of. to halt and reverse the decline of nature, today rishi sunak said he believed today because my plan will ensure that. a very ambitious target the government has set itself —— said he believed the government because my plan will ensure that. there is new work on wildlife habitats, 2000 square miles of edge, new and expanded national nature reserves, efforts to make water use more efficiency in buildings, action to get councils to reduce air pollution, all of these things together, added to, the government's point is that this is added to what the government is already doing and one of the other really important announcements according to the government is it will put environmental protection at the heart of all new environmental policy. you have to see this in the round, we have set these ambitious targets, it has acknowledged it is on the back foot at the moment and has said this is how it will troll

everything the government does together to try to hit the targets by 2030, so it is really ambitious. i have to say, wildlife charities today have been a little bit muted in their reception, they want to wait and see whether this is really a whole government response and they say the step change in action and ambition needed is absolutely huge and the wildlife trust said where is the cash? i and the wildlife trust said where is the cash? ., , and the wildlife trust said where is the cash? . , , and the wildlife trust said where is the cash? ., , ., ,., ., and the wildlife trust said where is the cash? ., , ., ., ., the cash? i was 'ust about to ask ou that, the cash? i wasjust about to ask you that, where _ the cash? i wasjust about to ask you that, where is _ the cash? i wasjust about to ask you that, where is the _ the cash? i wasjust about to ask you that, where is the cash? - the cash? i wasjust about to ask i you that, where is the cash? sorry, what were — you that, where is the cash? sorry, what were you _ you that, where is the cash? sorry, what were you saying? _ you that, where is the cash? sorry, what were you saying? you - you that, where is the cash? sorry, i what were you saying? you mentioned the wildlife trust _ what were you saying? you mentioned the wildlife trust under _ what were you saying? you mentioned the wildlife trust under the _ the wildlife trust under the charities working to protect the natural world. charities working to protect the naturalworld. —— charities working to protect the natural world. —— and other charities. you say their responses muted, is that cash behind the rhetoric, cash for delivery? there is some cash. _ rhetoric, cash for delivery? there is some cash, but _ rhetoric, cash for delivery? there is some cash, but in _ rhetoric, cash for delivery? there is some cash, but in the - rhetoric, cash for delivery? there is some cash, but in the list - rhetoric, cash for delivery? there is some cash, but in the list of. is some cash, but in the list of policies we have discussed is just not very much. they would say you

have to add to that, for example the efforts of the government is making to make farming more environmentally friendly, they have this environmental land management plan which replaces the eu common agricultural policy post brexodus, they say it is focused on making sure subsidies are directed towards protecting nature, they say 70% of englanders farmland, making that more environmentally friendly should make a huge difference. they say look at what we are doing that, look at the efforts we are making to clean up the water system elsewhere, reduce sewage spills etc, they would say you have to look out all of this stuff if you are going to take it seriously, which would add up to many billion pounds of expenditure, but it's what they would say. environmental charities would say thatis environmental charities would say that is not delivering on the catastrophic decline. they assess

149 key species and be say of those species, since 1970 they had declined by 82%. the world wildlife fund says england is one of the most nature depleted countries on earth. a huge effort needs to be made to change that and the environmental charities are saying that as they see it at the moment that is not enough to deliver that.- see it at the moment that is not enough to deliver that. thank you very much. _ enough to deliver that. thank you very much, justin _ enough to deliver that. thank you very much, justin rowlatt, - enough to deliver that. thank you very much, justin rowlatt, our. very much, justin rowlatt, our climate editor. john paul davies has tweeted, saying nature and its environment should be accessible for us all, embracing nature and spending quality time in an environment where wildlife dominates can improve mental health, clear our minds and promote healing. we would love to hear what you think needs to happen in orderfor the government because my plant to be delivered.

—— the government's plans. that aim is for us all to be within a 15 minute walk of a green space or water. get in touch about that on twitter. today marks three years since the uk's official departure from the european union in 2020. since then, the country has endured a global pandemic, followed by an energy crisis, making it difficult to assess the full impact of leaving. recent polls suggest a shift in public opinion and that many voters now consider brexit to have been a mistake. and coming up later this hour we will be staying with brexit and joining our colleagues at 5live. nicky campbell will be taking your calls on how the brexit transition is getting on. stay with us on the news channel, as we will be broadcating nicky's show right here from 9:30. the death toll in the suicide bombing at a mosque in the pakistani city of peshawar, has risen to 92. rescue teams are still trying to find bodies under the rubble of the damaged building. it is the latest in a string

of attacks targeting police. the pakistani taliban denied involvement after an initial claim by one of its commanders. a bbc investigation in egypt has revealed how dating apps and online activity are being used to abuse and blackmail people for their sexuality and gender identity. criminal gangs are targeting vulnerable people online — and the state police are also using similar tactics. this report by bbc arabic�*s ahmed shihab—eldin features some distressing scenes from the start. a group of friends ambushed by someone they thought they could trust — naked, terrified, and forced to dance at knife—point. the whole humiliating ordeal was filmed and posted online. it was viewed more than 2 million times. these are the victims of gangs targeting lgbtq people in egypt. translation: they were the most . disgusting six hours of my life. . i could have died.

i was scared to death. leila, who identifies as transgender, was in the video. sharing her story with us is risky, so she has chosen a 3d face tracking mask to conceal her identity. we have also changed her name. being exposed as transgender leaves leila open to targeting by the police. there is no explicit law against homosexuality in egypt, but our investigation has found that the law against debauchery, originally a sex work charge, is being used to criminalise the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer community. queer is an offensive word to some, but for the people i spoke to, it was their preferred term to describe their sexual orientation or gender identity. any positive depiction of homosexuality is banned in the media here. on this call—in show on state tv, the presenter tells a mother worried about her gay son that he needs treatment.

this stigma and the way the law is being used leaves people like leila vulnerable to attack. by interviewing other victims and through online research, we were able to confirm the identity of one of the leaders of the gang. his name is yahia. he is the man with the knife in the video. we have evidence that his gang has carried out at least four similar attacks. sahid is just 18 and another of yahia's victims. translation: he asked for money, which i didn't have, _ so he called my parents, and the video spread all around egypt. he wanted to report the attack to the police, but his lawyer advised him against it. translation: he said, - "both of you will be jailed." because i am a gay man and because he stole. he said his offence isn't as big as mine in egyptian society. we found the police themselves have been impersonating users on dating apps to find and arrest members of the lgbtq community.

we have been given exclusive access to extraordinary police transcripts and investigation records that show in detail exactly how street level police are targeting people online. in some of the exchanges, the police seem to be pressuring people into offering sex for money. but in others, there is no mention of any financial transaction, so the transcripts appear to show evidence that people are being arrested for their sexuality. police forces in egypt receive training from the uk via the un. the egyptian interior ministry did not respond to the bbc�*s request for comment. yahia denied involvement in any attacks. lgbtq people in egypt are forced

to hide their sexuality to survive. leila and sahid hope their stories can help break the silence. ahmed shihab—eldin, bbc news. you can watch the full investigation, queer egypt under attack, on bbc iplayer now. more than a quarter of children will have seen pornography by the time they've left primary school. a report by the children's commissioner for england found consumption of adult content is widespread among young people, and often involving violence towards women. our technology reporter, shiona mccallum, joins me now. good morning. a deeply, deeply troubling reports. where are the safety features, where are the features that are supposed to stop children seeing this kind of material? it children seeing this kind of material?— children seeing this kind of material? , . , . , ., material? it is a difficult question and one im _ material? it is a difficult question and one i'm sure _

material? it is a difficult question and one i'm sure many— material? it is a difficult question and one i'm sure many parents i material? it is a difficult question - and one i'm sure many parents across the country will be asking themselves, because this report really shines a spotlight on the extent to which young people are exposed to pornography. 0ne extent to which young people are exposed to pornography. one in ten have seen it by the time they were nine, 27%, overa quarter, had have seen it by the time they were nine, 27%, over a quarter, had seen it by the time they had left primary school and have to say they had seen something by the time they were 13. it is notjust the shocking top lines coming out of this report but also the nature of the content young people are seeing. they are seeing pornography with sexual violence, coercive pornography and the children's commissioner who commissioned this report to look at some of the behaviours, the knock—on effect when children see this kind of content, what happens to them, said there was an example of a 12—year—old strangling another 12—year—old strangling another 12—year—old during their first kiss

because it was something that was normalised that they had seen online. ., , normalised that they had seen online. . , ., ., online. clearly the mental health im acts online. clearly the mental health impacts and _ online. clearly the mental health impacts and the _ online. clearly the mental health impacts and the behavioural - online. clearly the mental health impacts and the behavioural and | impacts and the behavioural and social impacts of children seeing this at such a young age, you have just given one example, are really shocking. 0nce just given one example, are really shocking. once they had seen something like that, how do they own seeit? something like that, how do they own see it? ., . , something like that, how do they own see it? , ., ., ., see it? exactly, and one of the recommended _ see it? exactly, and one of the recommended things - see it? exactly, and one of the recommended things is - see it? exactly, and one of the recommended things is the - see it? exactly, and one of the - recommended things is the measure is coming into the 0nline safety bill which has been going through parliament for a couple of years, it is now in the house of lords and there is the hope that pornography will be included and there will be more stricter age verification controls on pornography to try to prevent the exposure to young people, obviously parents trying to limit smartphone use, perhaps not letting people be on the internet in their room alone, lots of measures can be taken but what is interesting in this report is how children are coming across this content, the

majority seeing it on twitter, others on snapchat and social media. i spoke to one woman whose son was only eight years old, had typed in a couple of swear words into a search engine and other pads come in adult content websites so quickly, you can be exposed so quickly. they rachel brookes really keen to reiterate that this was notjust brookes really keen to reiterate that this was not just the centrefold stuff that had been going around for years, this is pornography with violence depicting women in a bad light and also the young people saying they felt women were expecting to have these violent approaches, which is clearly very shocking. approaches, which is clearly very shockina. ., ., approaches, which is clearly very shockina. ., ,, , ., , approaches, which is clearly very shockina. ., ~' , . approaches, which is clearly very shockina. ., ,, , . ., shocking. thank you very much for that report. _ shocking. thank you very much for that report, shiona _ shocking. thank you very much for that report, shiona mccallum. - shocking. thank you very much for that report, shiona mccallum. we | that report, shiona mccallum. we will be talking to dame rachel de souza, the children's commissioner for england, in the next hour. now it's time for a look

at the weather with carol kirkwood. good morning. for many of us today, it will be a sunny and dry day but it will be a sunny and dry day but it will be windy where ever you are. we have blustery showers, most of which will be moving swiftly across scotland and some on higher ground in the hills will be wintry nature. could catch the odd shower in northern england, northern ireland and the south—west. but here some sunshine. temperatures 5—12 north to south. as we head on through the evening and overnight, the wind will strengthen even further. further gales across the north of scotland, even severe gales for a time with gusts of 70—80 mph in the far north of scotland, potentially damaging gales. showers persisting here. the weather front eventually sink south into northern england and northern ireland and on either side some clear sunshine and a chilly start to the day first thing tomorrow. tomorrow, the weather front sinks further south taking the rain with it before it will retreat northwards once again. for scotland, england

and wales and southern parts of northern ireland, it should remain largely dry some sunshine. hello this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh. the headlines: the global financial institution, the imf, is predicting the uk to be the only major economy to shrink in 2023 — but says the government is shifting in the right direction. five years after a report into the treatment of the families of the hillsborough disaster — the author criticises the government, saying it's intolerable that it still hasn't responded. ministers set out a plan to improve nature in england — but campaigners have questioned whether it goes far enough to stop the loss of wildlife. "united in music" — the slogan for this year's eurovision song contest is unveiled, as the official eurovsion handover ceremony takes place today, in liverpool. sport now and time for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre.

good morning... we are talking transfer deadline day. it is a day that football fans can go a little crazy for, but come the end of it later, in all likelihood we may see the british transfer fee broken twice. the biggest money is likely to be spent by chelsea on enzo fernandez, a world cup winner with argentina, here he is scoring in qatar. the £105 million offered would be the highest transfer fee paid by a british club. chelsea have already signed six players this month, and taken another on loan. if it comes off, it would take their spending past half a billion pounds since the club's new american owners took over. the bbc understands manchester united have rejected a world record bid from arsenal for alessia russo. the england forward's contract up in the summer, so there could be some movement today. the fee is believed to be more than the record of £400,000

barcelona paid for england midfielder keira walsh. the deadline for domestic transfers in the women's super league is 5pm today. one major transfer that looks to have been agreed is a deal worth around £42 which will see pedro porro join tottenham from sporting lisbon. —— 40 -- 40 £2 —— 40 £2 million. the spanish international flew into luton in the early hours of this morning to have a medical as part of a transfer likely to cost around £42 million. antonio conte has been determined to strengthen his right wing—back position and views the 23—year—old, who spent three years as a manchester city player without making a single first—team appearance for the blues, as the ideal choice. one more transfer to tell you about. in the last few minutes, we understand leicester have agreed a £15 million deal with stoke for australia defender harry souttar. don't forget you can keep across all of the latest transfer speculation and confirmed deals throughout the day on the bbc sport website.

for some clubs, it's notjust players jetting in to save the day. everton hope that will be their new manager sean dyche, who has replaced frank lampard. he spent ten years in charge of burnley, and moves to goodison with the club 19th, two points from safety. and the task facing him, keeping them in the premier league. that is his main priority. staying with football... the wrexham story could be set for another plot twist. beat sheffield united in their fa cup replay, they'll welcome tottenham to the racecourse ground in the fifth round. already there are west ham, who will face manchester united after they beat derby last night, 2—0, thanks to goals from jarrod bowen and michail antonio. elsehwere, holders chelsea host 14—time winners arsenal in the fifth round of the women's fa cup. they beat liverpool 3—2 on sunday, with a hat—trick from sam kerr.

0ther ties will see wsl leaders manchester united taking on durham. beaten finalists last year, manchester city will travel to bristol city. the opening game of this year's fifa women's world cup has been moved stadium australia in sydney. the game between the hosts and republic of ireland was due to be played at the much smaller sydney football stadium. stadium australia has a capacity ofjust over 83,000 spectators and fifa expect over 100,000 fans to attend the opening day of fixtures. last week, football australia ceo jamesjohnson told bbc sport that seeing the lionesses sell out old trafford for their opening game of last summer's euros had inspired them to look at using a larger stadium. it's going to be a huge labour women's football because we also have our fan festival is up and running, there will be tens of thousands of people there, as well as what we know will be millions of fans watching on broadcast all over the world. so we are certainly

putting this tournament beyond greatness and the opening match day will certainly show us out. it will indeed, looking _ will certainly show us out. it will indeed, looking forward - will certainly show us out. it will indeed, looking forward to - will certainly show us out. it will indeed, looking forward to the l will certainly show us out. it will indeed, looking forward to the start of that. that's all the sport for now. thank you very much. and let'sjoin nicky campbell. three years since the uk officially left the eu. 1st of january 2020, the uk officially left the european union after many years. we are marking that momentous moment three years on on the phone into day and asking very simple question, brexit, how is it for you? some great callers have been coming in. some texts as well. very well informed, as many people are on this topic, because it is affecting all of our lives and is still as passionate as ever. some of the most thunderous phone—ins i have ever done are on this topic over a number of years. we arejoined by this topic over a number of years. we are joined by simonjack,

business editor, katya adler, europe editor and chris mason, our political editor. it is all happening. and alison in the west midlands. the dorling —— good morning all. alison, brexit, how is it for you?— it for you? difficult. i mean, i am in business— it for you? difficult. i mean, i am in business myself. _ it for you? difficult. i mean, i am in business myself. i— it for you? difficult. i mean, i am in business myself. i deal- it for you? difficult. i mean, i am in business myself. i deal with i it for you? difficult. i mean, i am in business myself. i deal with a | in business myself. ideal with a lot of— in business myself. ideal with a lot of businesses stop i have to say, _ lot of businesses stop i have to say, the — lot of businesses stop i have to say, the majority of my customers are manufacturers. yes, they are definitely— are manufacturers. yes, they are definitely feeling the pain but i think— definitely feeling the pain but i think it's — definitely feeling the pain but i think it's difficult, isn't it? it is difficult — think it's difficult, isn't it? it is difficult to pick because we have had brexit. — is difficult to pick because we have had brexit, we have had covid now we have the _ had brexit, we have had covid now we have the war— had brexit, we have had covid now we have the war in ukraine. now we have rising _ have the war in ukraine. now we have rising energy— have the war in ukraine. now we have rising energy prices, so businesses are really, really feeling the pain, definitely. really, really feeling the pain, definitel . , really, really feeling the pain, definitely-— really, really feeling the pain, definitel . , . , ., ., , definitely. yes, that is a really important _ definitely. yes, that is a really important point. _ definitely. yes, that is a really important point. it's _ definitely. yes, that is a really important point. it's very - definitely. yes, that is a really i important point. it's very difficult to unravel all of those factors and

to unravel all of those factors and to just nail what brexit, what is the brexit effect? it is a point very well made. it the brexit effect? it is a point very well made.— the brexit effect? it is a point very well made. it is. iactually voted for— very well made. it is. i actually voted for brexit. _ very well made. it is. i actually voted for brexit. i've _ very well made. it is. iactually voted for brexit. i've got - very well made. it is. iactually voted for brexit. i've got my i very well made. it is. i actually l voted for brexit. i've got my own reasons — voted for brexit. i've got my own reasons for— voted for brexit. i've got my own reasons for that. can voted for brexit. i've got my own reasons for that.— reasons for that. can i ask what they are? _ reasons for that. can i ask what they are? yes. _ reasons for that. can i ask what they are? yes, i _ reasons for that. can i ask what they are? yes, i wanted - reasons for that. can i ask what they are? yes, i wanted the - reasons for that. can i ask what they are? yes, i wanted the ukj reasons for that. can i ask what i they are? yes, i wanted the uk to reasons for that. can i ask what - they are? yes, i wanted the uk to be in charre they are? yes, i wanted the uk to be in charge of— they are? yes, i wanted the uk to be in charge of our— they are? yes, i wanted the uk to be in charge of our own _ they are? yes, i wanted the uk to be in charge of our own laws. _ they are? yes, i wanted the uk to be in charge of our own laws. i - they are? yes, i wanted the uk to be in charge of our own laws. i thoughtl in charge of our own laws. i thought we should _ in charge of our own laws. i thought we should have our own sovereignty. immigration— we should have our own sovereignty. immigration was a point for me as welt _ immigration was a point for me as welt but, — immigration was a point for me as well. but, actually... and also, i think— well. but, actually... and also, i think we — well. but, actually... and also, i think we were mis—sold. we were told that we _ think we were mis—sold. we were told that we would have a lot more money in the _ that we would have a lot more money in the uk _ that we would have a lot more money in the uk. we would be sending best overseas, _ in the uk. we would be sending best overseas, to— in the uk. we would be sending best overseas, to the eu. the nhs would have more _ overseas, to the eu. the nhs would have more money, we would have more money— have more money, we would have more money and _ have more money, we would have more money and actually, we were totally mis-soid _ money and actually, we were totally mis-soid i— money and actually, we were totally mis—sold. i will take money and actually, we were totally mis—sold. iwill take responsibility for that _ mis—sold. iwill take responsibility for that i— mis—sold. iwill take responsibility for that. i should have researched it more _ for that. i should have researched it more myself. but it is up to our

government, ouradministration, to government, our administration, to be government, ouradministration, to be clear— government, ouradministration, to be clear with the people of the uk. and they— be clear with the people of the uk. and they were not. do be clear with the people of the uk. and they were not.— and they were not. do you think a lot of it was _ and they were not. do you think a lot of it was disingenuous? - and they were not. do you think a | lot of it was disingenuous? people say there was disingenuousness on both sides. james, ceo of a pet food company. i buy a lot of this stuff, not necessarily yours but do you echo that in any way, that is not what the british public were sold? yes, absolutely. leaving the eu for our business — yes, absolutely. leaving the eu for our business has _ yes, absolutely. leaving the eu for our business has led _ yes, absolutely. leaving the eu for our business has led to— yes, absolutely. leaving the eu for our business has led to a _ our business has led to a significant _ our business has led to a significant increase - our business has led to a significant increase in. our business has led to a - significant increase in bureaucracy and red _ significant increase in bureaucracy and red tape _ significant increase in bureaucracy and red tape so— significant increase in bureaucracy and red tape. so to _ significant increase in bureaucracy and red tape. so to export- significant increase in bureaucracy and red tape. so to export our- significant increase in bureaucracy. and red tape. so to export our foods to the _ and red tape. so to export our foods to the eu, _ and red tape. so to export our foods to the eu, we — and red tape. so to export our foods to the eu, we have— and red tape. so to export our foods to the eu, we have to _ and red tape. so to export our foods to the eu, we have to apply- and red tape. so to export our foods to the eu, we have to apply for- and red tape. so to export our foods to the eu, we have to apply for a - to the eu, we have to apply for a health— to the eu, we have to apply for a health check, _ to the eu, we have to apply for a health check, we _ to the eu, we have to apply for a health check, we have _ to the eu, we have to apply for a health check, we have veterinary check _ health check, we have veterinary check in — health check, we have veterinary check in the _ health check, we have veterinary check in the uk _ health check, we have veterinary check in the uk and _ health check, we have veterinary check in the uk and we - health check, we have veterinary check in the uk and we have - health check, we have veterinary check in the uk and we have to l health check, we have veterinary . check in the uk and we have to have another— check in the uk and we have to have another one — check in the uk and we have to have another one in— check in the uk and we have to have another one in calais— check in the uk and we have to have another one in calais and _ check in the uk and we have to have another one in calais and then - check in the uk and we have to have another one in calais and then a - another one in calais and then a customs — another one in calais and then a customs check— another one in calais and then a customs check and _ another one in calais and then a customs check and then - another one in calais and then a customs check and then the - another one in calais and then a . customs check and then the goods another one in calais and then a - customs check and then the goods go on. customs check and then the goods go on where _ customs check and then the goods go on. where previously, _ customs check and then the goods go on. where previously, this _ customs check and then the goods goj on. where previously, this movement of goods— on. where previously, this movement of goods was— on. where previously, this movement of goods was completely _ of goods was completely frictionless. _

of goods was completely frictionless. there - of goods was completely frictionless. there was i of goods was completelyl frictionless. there was no of goods was completely - frictionless. there was no checks, no additional _ frictionless. there was no checks, no additional costs. _ frictionless. there was no checks, no additional costs. we _ frictionless. there was no checks, no additional costs. we also - frictionless. there was no checks, no additional costs. we also have| frictionless. there was no checks, i no additional costs. we also have to do this— no additional costs. we also have to do this now— no additional costs. we also have to do this now for— no additional costs. we also have to do this now for northern _ no additional costs. we also have to do this now for northern ireland. i no additional costs. we also have to do this now for northern ireland. soj do this now for northern ireland. so northern— do this now for northern ireland. so northern ireland _ do this now for northern ireland. so northern ireland is _ do this now for northern ireland. so northern ireland is de _ do this now for northern ireland. so northern ireland is de facto - do this now for northern ireland. so northern ireland is de facto no - northern ireland is de facto no longer— northern ireland is de facto no ionger a — northern ireland is de facto no ionger a part— northern ireland is de facto no ionger a part of— northern ireland is de facto no longer a part of the _ northern ireland is de facto no longer a part of the united - northern ireland is de facto no - longer a part of the united kingdom from a _ longer a part of the united kingdom from a customs _ longer a part of the united kingdom from a customs perspective. - longer a part of the united kingdom from a customs perspective. you i longer a part of the united kingdoml from a customs perspective. you can send _ from a customs perspective. you can send goods— from a customs perspective. you can send goods freely— from a customs perspective. you can send goods freely from _ from a customs perspective. you can send goods freely from dublin - from a customs perspective. you can send goods freely from dublin to - send goods freely from dublin to belfast _ send goods freely from dublin to belfast but — send goods freely from dublin to belfast but i _ send goods freely from dublin to belfast but i can't _ send goods freely from dublin to belfast but i can't do _ send goods freely from dublin to belfast but i can't do the - send goods freely from dublin to belfast but i can't do the same i send goods freely from dublin to i belfast but i can't do the same from london _ belfast but i can't do the same from london to— belfast but i can't do the same from london to belfast. _ belfast but i can't do the same from london to belfast. and _ belfast but i can't do the same from london to belfast. and to _ belfast but i can't do the same from london to belfast. and to quote - belfast but i can't do the same from london to belfast. and to quote lizl london to belfast. and to quote liz truss. _ london to belfast. and to quote liz truss. that — london to belfast. and to quote liz truss. that is — london to belfast. and to quote liz truss. that is a _ london to belfast. and to quote liz truss, that is a disgrace. _ london to belfast. and to quote liz truss, that is a disgrace. laughter i knew i truss, that is a disgrace. laughter i knew i was — truss, that is a disgrace. laughter i knew i was going _ truss, that is a disgrace. laughter i knew i was going to _ truss, that is a disgrace. laughter i knew i was going to get _ truss, that is a disgrace. laughter i knew i was going to get that - truss, that is a disgrace. laughter i knew i was going to get that in i i knew i was going to get that in there! _ i knew i was going to get that in there! it — i knew i was going to get that in there! it has— i knew i was going to get that in there! it has driven— i knew i was going to get that in there! it has driven a _ i knew i was going to get that in there! it has driven a wedge - i knew i was going to get that in - there! it has driven a wedge between us and _ there! it has driven a wedge between us and our— there! it has driven a wedge between us and our largest _ there! it has driven a wedge between us and our largest trading _ there! it has driven a wedge between us and our largest trading partner i us and our largest trading partner and any— us and our largest trading partner and any friction _ us and our largest trading partner and any friction into _ us and our largest trading partner and any friction into that - and any friction into that arrangement— and any friction into that arrangement will- and any friction into that arrangement will be - and any friction into that - arrangement will be incredibly costly— arrangement will be incredibly costly for— arrangement will be incredibly costly for british _ arrangement will be incredibly costly for british businesses i arrangement will be incredibly i costly for british businesses and also consumers _ costly for british businesses and also consumers because - costly for british businesses and i also consumers because ultimately costly for british businesses and - also consumers because ultimately it will lead _ also consumers because ultimately it will lead to— also consumers because ultimately it will lead to increased _ also consumers because ultimately it will lead to increased prices. - also consumers because ultimately it will lead to increased prices. stay- will lead to increased prices. stay riaht will lead to increased prices. stay right there. i _ will lead to increased prices. stay right there, i want _ will lead to increased prices. right there, i want to will lead to increased prices. lila- right there, i want to bring in will lead to increased prices.- right there, i want to bring in andy in the mendips on that point. i think you were a great enthusiast for brexit, good morning? goad for brexit, good morning? good morninu. for brexit, good morning? good morning. good _ for brexit, good morning? good morning. good to _ for brexit, good morning? good morning. good to have - for brexit, good morning? good morning. good to have you - for brexit, good morning? good| morning. good to have you won. for brexit, good morning? good - morning. good to have you won. what would ou morning. good to have you won. what would you say — morning. good to have you won. what would you say to _ morning. good to have you won. what would you say to james _ morning. good to have you won. what would you say to james who _ morning. good to have you won. what would you say to james who has - morning. good to have you won. what would you say to james who has said i would you say to james who has said it has driven a wedge between us and our biggest trading partner and made for a very rough ride for

businesses, what would you say? i would totally agree with what he has 'ust would totally agree with what he has just said _ would totally agree with what he has just said. we are sheep farmers basically— just said. we are sheep farmers basically a — just said. we are sheep farmers basically a diapering in brand for brand _ basically a diapering in brand for brand and — basically a diapering in brand for brand and i think the bureaucracy, i think— brand and i think the bureaucracy, i think our— brand and i think the bureaucracy, i think our politicians are basically incompetent. they could have sorted a lot of— incompetent. they could have sorted a lot of this _ incompetent. they could have sorted a lot of this out. they caused a lot of friction— a lot of this out. they caused a lot of friction with the european union over the _ of friction with the european union over the way they left. i mean, how — over the way they left. i mean, now... british export to france, there _ now... british export to france, there is— now... british export to france, there is supposed to be border control— there is supposed to be border control posts to check on what is going _ control posts to check on what is going out — control posts to check on what is going out and what is coming in on both sides — going out and what is coming in on both sides of the channel. the government have done absolutely nothing _ government have done absolutely nothing to look into that situation. so basically, trade has near enough to stop _ so basically, trade has near enough to stop for— so basically, trade has near enough to stop for the farming industry across— to stop for the farming industry across the _ to stop for the farming industry across the english channel. | to stop for the farming industry across the english channel. i think this is really _ across the english channel. i think this is really interesting _ across the english channel. i think this is really interesting because i this is really interesting because we had a previous caller saying this. brexit is still a great idea and still fantastic for this country

but it hasn't been done properly. what is properly, andy? properly, liz truss went _ what is properly, andy? properly, liz truss went around _ what is properly, andy? properly, liz truss went around the - what is properly, andy? properly, liz truss went around the world i liz truss went around the world heralding — liz truss went around the world heralding all these fantastic new trade _ heralding all these fantastic new trade deals. she went to australia, it was— trade deals. she went to australia, it was all— trade deals. she went to australia, it was all over the news that they had done — it was all over the news that they had done this fantastic trader with australia — had done this fantastic trader with australia. what she didn't tell us, it was— australia. what she didn't tell us, it was all— australia. what she didn't tell us, it was all one way. the yield prices he has _ it was all one way. the yield prices he has absolutely collapsed because basically _ he has absolutely collapsed because basically all the processors have gone _ basically all the processors have gone looking for cheap meat and brought— gone looking for cheap meat and brought in huge container loads from australia, _ brought in huge container loads from australia, cheap mutton, which is cutting _ australia, cheap mutton, which is cutting our— australia, cheap mutton, which is cutting our business off at the knees — cutting our business off at the knees. , ., , ., , knees. george used as the environment _ knees. george used as the environment minister - knees. george used as the| environment minister when knees. george used as the i environment minister when he knees. george used as the - environment minister when he left government said it is a terrible deal and has not been good for british farmers but do you still think brexit is a good idea? i think the premise _ think brexit is a good idea? i think the premise of— think brexit is a good idea? i think the premise of brexit _ think brexit is a good idea? i think the premise of brexit is _ think brexit is a good idea? i think the premise of brexit is still - think brexit is a good idea? i think the premise of brexit is still a - the premise of brexit is still a good — the premise of brexit is still a good idea. the premise of brexit is still a good idea-— the premise of brexit is still a aood idea. ~ . , , , good idea. what is the premise? basically that — good idea. what is the premise? basically that we _ good idea. what is the premise? basically that we can _ good idea. what is the premise? basically that we can trade - good idea. what is the premise? basically that we can trade with l good idea. what is the premise? i basically that we can trade with the rest of— basically that we can trade with the rest of the — basically that we can trade with the rest of the world. in the past, i think— rest of the world. in the past, i think the — rest of the world. in the past, i think the problem has been that basically— think the problem has been that basically when we were part of the

european — basically when we were part of the european union, our politicians never_ european union, our politicians never had — european union, our politicians never had to think for themselves. theyiust _ never had to think for themselves. theyjust trotted off to the european union, they came out with some _ european union, they came out with some directive or another which they come _ some directive or another which they come back— some directive or another which they come back to this country are made to law, _ come back to this country are made to law, which by a lot of extra cost on the _ to law, which by a lot of extra cost on the business and i think basically— on the business and i think basically people in this country, especially small businesses, were getting _ especially small businesses, were getting fed up of it. the tea lady in a scout— getting fed up of it. the tea lady in a scout hall has to have a tea certificate! _ in a scout hall has to have a tea certificate!— in a scout hall has to have a tea certificate! ., , , ., ., certificate! james, when you hear that, what _ certificate! james, when you hear that, what do _ certificate! james, when you hear that, what do you _ certificate! james, when you hear that, what do you say? _ certificate! james, when you hear that, what do you say? our - certificate! james, when you hear. that, what do you say? our largest tradin: that, what do you say? our largest trading partner— that, what do you say? our largest trading partner for _ that, what do you say? our largest trading partner for my _ that, what do you say? our largest trading partner for my business i that, what do you say? our largest trading partner for my business is l trading partner for my business is actually— trading partner for my business is actuallyjapan _ trading partner for my business is actuallyjapan. japan— trading partner for my business is actuallyjapan. japan is _ trading partner for my business is actuallyjapan. japan is our- trading partner for my business isi actuallyjapan. japan is our largest export— actuallyjapan. japan is our largest export customer— actuallyjapan. japan is our largest export customer and _ actuallyjapan. japan is our largest export customer and our— actuallyjapan. japan is our largest export customer and our second i export customer and our second largest— export customer and our second largest is— export customer and our second largest is hong _ export customer and our second largest is hong kong _ export customer and our second largest is hong kong and - export customer and our second largest is hong kong and china. | export customer and our second i largest is hong kong and china. we traded _ largest is hong kong and china. we traded with — largest is hong kong and china. we traded with these _ largest is hong kong and china. we traded with these partners - largest is hong kong and china. we traded with these partners when i largest is hong kong and china. we| traded with these partners when we were members— traded with these partners when we were members of— traded with these partners when we were members of the _ traded with these partners when we were members of the european- traded with these partners when we i were members of the european union. so this— were members of the european union. so this idea _ were members of the european union. so this idea that— were members of the european union. so this idea that we _ were members of the european union. so this idea that we had _ were members of the european union. so this idea that we had to _ were members of the european union. so this idea that we had to leave - so this idea that we had to leave the european _ so this idea that we had to leave the european union, _ so this idea that we had to leave the european union, leave - so this idea that we had to leave the european union, leave the i the european union, leave the customs — the european union, leave the customs union— the european union, leave the customs union to _ the european union, leave the customs union to do _ the european union, leave the customs union to do our - the european union, leave the customs union to do our own i the european union, leave the - customs union to do our own trade deals— customs union to do our own trade deals because _ customs union to do our own trade deals because we _ customs union to do our own trade deals because we were _ customs union to do our own trade deals because we were hemmed i customs union to do our own trade i deals because we were hemmed into only trading — deals because we were hemmed into only trading with _ deals because we were hemmed into only trading with the _ deals because we were hemmed into only trading with the eu _ deals because we were hemmed into only trading with the eu is _ deals because we were hemmed into only trading with the eu is amply- only trading with the eu is amply not true — only trading with the eu is amply not true we _ only trading with the eu is amply not true. we traded _ only trading with the eu is amply not true. we traded all— only trading with the eu is amply not true. we traded all across i only trading with the eu is amply. not true. we traded all across asia, across— not true. we traded all across asia, across the _ not true. we traded all across asia, across the middle _ not true. we traded all across asia, across the middle east _ not true. we traded all across asia, across the middle east prior- not true. we traded all across asia, across the middle east prior to - not true. we traded all across asia, across the middle east prior to the i across the middle east prior to the invasion— across the middle east prior to the invasion of— across the middle east prior to the

invasion of ukraine, _ across the middle east prior to the invasion of ukraine, with- across the middle east prior to the invasion of ukraine, with russia. i across the middle east prior to the i invasion of ukraine, with russia. so the idea _ invasion of ukraine, with russia. so the idea we — invasion of ukraine, with russia. so the idea we had _ invasion of ukraine, with russia. so the idea we had to _ invasion of ukraine, with russia. so the idea we had to go _ invasion of ukraine, with russia. so the idea we had to go it— invasion of ukraine, with russia. so the idea we had to go it alone - invasion of ukraine, with russia. so the idea we had to go it alone to- the idea we had to go it alone to -et the idea we had to go it alone to get our— the idea we had to go it alone to get our own— the idea we had to go it alone to get our own trade _ the idea we had to go it alone to get our own trade deals, - the idea we had to go it alone to get our own trade deals, it's- the idea we had to go it alone to| get our own trade deals, it'sjust not true — get our own trade deals, it's 'ust not true. ., , ., �* �* get our own trade deals, it's 'ust not true. . ,~ ~ ~ ., , not true. katya adler, al europe idea, not true. katya adler, al europe idea. hello. _ not true. katya adler, al europe idea, hello, welcome _ not true. katya adler, al europe idea, hello, welcome back. - not true. katya adler, al europe i idea, hello, welcome back. hello. hello, idea, hello, welcome back. hello. hello. what _ idea, hello, welcome back. hello. hello, what about _ idea, hello, welcome back. hello. hello, what about this _ idea, hello, welcome back. hello. hello, what about this notion, - hello, what about this notion, really interesting stuff from andy in the mendips, what about this notion that we were previously absolutely stymied with the ridiculous regulations? i think we heard mention of the tea lady and it was all about breaking free from those. borisjohnson wrote a lot of stuff when he was a journalist about all of this and some said he kind of exaggerated it somewhat. what is the truth of it all?— truth of it all? well, he did exaggerate _ truth of it all? well, he did exaggerate many - truth of it all? well, he did exaggerate many issues i truth of it all? well, he did l exaggerate many issues with truth of it all? well, he did - exaggerate many issues with the european union but does the eu make regulations for work life, for example, and a work environment that is then applied across the european countries? it does. 50, yes, there is some resentment and you picked that up in other european countries.

in france, in the south of france at local market recently when i was reporting there, you had people saying, who are they to tell us how to make our cheeses or are they hygiene rules when we've been doing this all our lives? we hygiene rules when we've been doing this all our lives?— this all our lives? we went our own government _ this all our lives? we went our own government to _ this all our lives? we went our own government to tell— this all our lives? we went our own government to tell us _ this all our lives? we went our own government to tell us how - this all our lives? we went our own government to tell us how to - this all our lives? we went our own government to tell us how to make our cheeses. government to tell us how to make our cheeses-_ government to tell us how to make our cheeses. , r ., ., ., our cheeses. exactly! we won our own government — our cheeses. exactly! we won our own government to — our cheeses. exactly! we won our own government to tell _ our cheeses. exactly! we won our own government to tell us _ our cheeses. exactly! we won our own government to tell us how _ our cheeses. exactly! we won our own government to tell us how to - our cheeses. exactly! we won our own government to tell us how to make . government to tell us how to make our cheese. when you are an eu member state, our cheese. when you are an eu memberstate, does our cheese. when you are an eu member state, does brussels interfere in every single part of your life? absolutely not. there are areas of life where eu countries, to be part of the club, agreed to pull some sovereignty but these are only in certain areas. the uk had more opt out when it was a member state than any others. an opt out on pooling immigration laws, when it came to emigration outside of the eu and opted out ofjoining the euro, for example. the rebate laws for the united kingdom. was that enough of those who wanted complete

sovereignty? no, it wasn't, and that was the reason many people voted for brexit. however, the other point that was made there about trade rules, so actual big trade deals. as an eu member state, your trade deals are negotiated by the european commission on behalf of the member state. so each member of the eu needs to be on board with those. but it has —— is left to each country to make its own bilateral deals. so make its own bilateral deals. 50 germany is one of china's biggest trading partners, even though it is an eu member state and those trade deals, it's like the bilateral deals, it's like the bilateral deals, is not something shared by others. so we did have that freedom even as a member state. like all of these things, it is not black and white. it is various shades of grey. so some powers are sort of pulled in brussels but by no means all. qm. brussels but by no means all. 0k, thank ou brussels but by no means all. 0k, thank you very _ brussels but by no means all. 0k, thank you very much. chris, i want to bring you in as well here, chris mason, our esteemed political editor. we are hearing a lot this

morning from people who love the idea of brexit and think it will be and should be a wonderful thing for this nation, for these nations, but they are saying it has not been done right. the politicians are blowing it through their incompetence. this is a facet of the human condition. you see it in religion, you see it in politics and throughout history. if things are not working out, people say it has not been done right. it is not pure enough, we're not going far enough. we are hearing a lot of that. we not going far enough. we are hearing a lot of that-— a lot of that. we are. some will conclude it _ a lot of that. we are. some will conclude it has _ a lot of that. we are. some will conclude it has not _ a lot of that. we are. some will conclude it has not worked - a lot of that. we are. some will conclude it has not worked wellj a lot of that. we are. some will - conclude it has not worked well say it has _ conclude it has not worked well say it has not _ conclude it has not worked well say it has not been done right and others — it has not been done right and others will say it was wrong in the first place — others will say it was wrong in the first place i— others will say it was wrong in the first place. i think it comes back to the _ first place. i think it comes back to the point simon was making 15 or 20 minutes— to the point simon was making 15 or 20 minutes ago. the referendum itsetf— 20 minutes ago. the referendum itself forced a binary choice but the flavour of brexit or indeed, to a degree, — the flavour of brexit or indeed, to a degree, the flavour of remain, had the boat _ a degree, the flavour of remain, had the boat gone the other way, was still open — the boat gone the other way, was still open to some discussion. certainly. _ still open to some discussion. certainly, how brexit felt, how it

looked. — certainly, how brexit felt, how it looked, the consequences of brexit are hugely— looked, the consequences of brexit are hugely broad canvas on which politicians — are hugely broad canvas on which politicians could paint. in many ways. — politicians could paint. in many ways, one _ politicians could paint. in many ways, one of the quirks of what happened — ways, one of the quirks of what happened immediately after the brexit— happened immediately after the brexit referendum was the election of the _ brexit referendum was the election of the prime minister in theresa may from the _ of the prime minister in theresa may from the conservative party who had backed _ from the conservative party who had backed remain in the first place and so felt _ backed remain in the first place and so felt she _ backed remain in the first place and so felt she had to come to a degree, define _ so felt she had to come to a degree, define her— so felt she had to come to a degree, define her kind of born—again zeal around _ define her kind of born—again zeal around the — define her kind of born—again zeal around the brexit that many labelled in the _ around the brexit that many labelled in the sense it needed a label to be attached _ in the sense it needed a label to be attached to it, was quite hard. in other— attached to it, was quite hard. in other words, leaving some of the big ecohomic_ other words, leaving some of the big economic structures of the european union _ economic structures of the european union which — economic structures of the european union which were not obligatory whilst _ union which were not obligatory whilst leaving the eu and is completing brexit in a technical sense _ completing brexit in a technical sense but of course many would argue that if— sense but of course many would argue that if you _ sense but of course many would argue that if you stay in those structures, you are not properly leaving _ structures, you are not properly leaving and therefore you are not in a position— leaving and therefore you are not in a position where you can extract potentially some of the advantages associated with leaving. i think what _ associated with leaving. i think what is — associated with leaving. i think what is fascinating, to pick up on a conversation — what is fascinating, to pick up on a conversation you are having two minutes — conversation you are having two minutes ago with a caller, is the question—

minutes ago with a caller, is the question of— minutes ago with a caller, is the question of where politics is now. the argument we had expressed about pat's labour should put it in their manifesto — pat's labour should put it in their manifesto that they should be another — manifesto that they should be another referendum. —— perhaps labour~ — another referendum. —— perhaps labour~ if— another referendum. —— perhaps labour. if that is your hope, you will be _ labour. if that is your hope, you will be disappointed. there is a real sense _ will be disappointed. there is a real sense in politics now among labour, — real sense in politics now among labour, the conservatives and the liberai— labour, the conservatives and the liberal democrats, less so the smpw — liberal democrats, less so the smp. .. �* , liberal democrats, less so the smp... �* , ., liberal democrats, less so the smp- - -_ i - liberal democrats, less so the smp..._ | think| smp. .. are they for it? i think their conclusion _ smp. .. are they for it? i think their conclusion is _ smp. .. are they for it? i think their conclusion is people - smp. .. are they for it? i think their conclusion is people are | smp. .. are they for it? | think i their conclusion is people are fed up their conclusion is people are fed up of— their conclusion is people are fed up of the — their conclusion is people are fed up of the whole brexit conversation. that there _ up of the whole brexit conversation. that there is no desire, they conclude, _ that there is no desire, they conclude, for... in any broad sense for re—litigating all of that argument, even though the opinion polls argument, even though the opinion poiis do— argument, even though the opinion polls do suggest there has been a shift towards a consistent shift towards — shift towards a consistent shift towards a majority of people being in favour _ towards a majority of people being in favour of being in the european union _ in favour of being in the european union rather than being out of it. but political parties do not detect a sufficient appetite for an immediate real litigation of the argument and plunging back into that kind of— argument and plunging back into that kind of conversation, not least

because — kind of conversation, not least because it _ kind of conversation, not least because it would not be remotely straightforward. if the uk entertained that idea, the terms of entry— entertained that idea, the terms of entry going back and would probably be very— entry going back and would probably be very different than the ones we left. be very different than the ones we left so— be very different than the ones we left. so instead you are getting an argument which chimes with the conversation we're having this morning. _ conversation we're having this morning, about trying to make brexit work~ _ morning, about trying to make brexit work but— morning, about trying to make brexit work. but how that happens and the trade-offs— work. but how that happens and the trade—offs involved will be the essence — trade—offs involved will be the essence of the debate to come. simon. — essence of the debate to come. simon. i— essence of the debate to come. simon, i will bring you in in a second, sorry to disappoint you. that is ok, there are some direct business consequences of what chris is saying. business consequences of what chris is sa in. .. business consequences of what chris is sa in. ., . business consequences of what chris is sa inc. ., . ., business consequences of what chris is sa in. .. . ., . is saying. hold that thought and we will be right — is saying. hold that thought and we will be right you. _ is saying. hold that thought and we will be right you. chris _ is saying. hold that thought and we will be right you. chris said - is saying. hold that thought and we will be right you. chris said that - will be right you. chris said that labour think people are fed up with the conversation. i am looking at the conversation. i am looking at the calls, we are getting so many calls on this. people want to answer the question, brexit, how is it for you? simon, willand jenny the question, brexit, how is it for you? simon, will and jenny and mary. well, how are you feeling at the moment how is it for you? brexit is a total mess. _ moment how is it for you? brexit is a total mess, isn't _ moment how is it for you? brexit is

a total mess, isn't it? _ moment how is it for you? brexit is a total mess, isn't it? most - moment how is it for you? brexit is a total mess, isn't it? most people| a total mess, isn't it? most people know— a total mess, isn't it? most people know i_ a total mess, isn't it? most people know i have — a total mess, isn't it? most people know i have been on the bbc quite a lot of— know i have been on the bbc quite a lot of time _ know i have been on the bbc quite a lot of time saying i voted for boris — lot of time saying i voted for boris i_ lot of time saying i voted for boris. i voted for him because i thought— boris. i voted for him because i thought he _ boris. i voted for him because i thought he would get it over the line and — thought he would get it over the line and then covid hit and we know history— line and then covid hit and we know history as _ line and then covid hit and we know history as it— line and then covid hit and we know history as it looks. the conservative party have completely messed _ conservative party have completely messed it _ conservative party have completely messed it up. conservative party have completely messed it uh— messed it up. brexit is a beautiful idea but it's _ messed it up. brexit is a beautiful idea but it's been _ messed it up. brexit is a beautiful idea but it's been blown? - messed it up. brexit is a beautiful i idea but it's been blown? absolutely blown to bits — idea but it's been blown? absolutely blown to bits because _ idea but it's been blown? absolutely blown to bits because they - idea but it's been blown? absolutely blown to bits because they need - idea but it's been blown? absolutely blown to bits because they need to l blown to bits because they need to sit down _ blown to bits because they need to sit down with... in 2016, surely by 2019— sit down with... in 2016, surely by 2019 before — sit down with... in 2016, surely by 2019 before covid hit, they could have _ 2019 before covid hit, they could have sat — 2019 before covid hit, they could have sat around the table and negotiated a deal. these guys are supposed — negotiated a deal. these guys are supposed to be very clever people. they are _ supposed to be very clever people. they are obviously not very clever that they — they are obviously not very clever that they can't sit down... then again. — that they can't sit down... then again. look— that they can't sit down... then again, look what rishi sunak has done _ again, look what rishi sunak has done with— again, look what rishi sunak has done with the people on strike. it isjust— done with the people on strike. it isjust ridiculous.— isjust ridiculous. what about eo - le isjust ridiculous. what about people who _ isjust ridiculous. what about people who would _ isjust ridiculous. what about people who would say - isjust ridiculous. what about people who would say to - isjust ridiculous. what about people who would say to you | isjust ridiculous. what about - people who would say to you that we had a deal, we are in this massive club of trading nations and it was a great deal, what would you say to those people? i great deal, what would you say to those people?— great deal, what would you say to those people? i wouldn't say was a treat those people? i wouldn't say was a

great deal- — those people? i wouldn't say was a great deal. going _ those people? i wouldn't say was a great deal. going forward - those people? i wouldn't say was a great deal. going forward in - those people? i wouldn't say was a great deal. going forward in the i great deal. going forward in the future, — great deal. going forward in the future, looking into the future is a great _ future, looking into the future is a great and — future, looking into the future is a great and wonderful thing, if we could _ great and wonderful thing, if we could do— great and wonderful thing, if we could do it. the problem is, it still— could do it. the problem is, it still would _ could do it. the problem is, it still would state that when we voted out and _ still would state that when we voted out and i_ still would state that when we voted out and i know a lot of directors who _ out and i know a lot of directors who voted — out and i know a lot of directors who voted out because they wanted out, they— who voted out because they wanted out, they wanted their own stuff. but the _ out, they wanted their own stuff. but the thing is, what the farmer said before, the bureaucracy of it all is _ said before, the bureaucracy of it all is absolutely ludicrous. why haven't — all is absolutely ludicrous. why haven't they sat down and sorted it? same _ haven't they sat down and sorted it? same reason they won't do anything else _ same reason they won't do anything else. anything you want a politician to do— else. anything you want a politician to do these — else. anything you want a politician to do these days, you have to wait for it. _ to do these days, you have to wait for it. it's — to do these days, you have to wait for it, it's now taking years. it's not taking — for it, it's now taking years. it's not taking days any more. theyjust want _ not taking days any more. theyjust want to— not taking days any more. theyjust want to argue amongst themselves who is doing _ want to argue amongst themselves who is doing what. sit around the table, -et is doing what. sit around the table, get it— is doing what. sit around the table, get it sorted out. the first thing they— get it sorted out. the first thing they need — get it sorted out. the first thing they need to do is sort the northern lreland _ they need to do is sort the northern ireland issue out and then sort the paperwork— ireland issue out and then sort the paperwork out for all of these companies struggling with paperwork. you hear— companies struggling with paperwork. you hear it— companies struggling with paperwork. you hear it so many times, is costing — you hear it so many times, is costing so— you hear it so many times, is costing so much... paperwork, paperwork. _ costing so much... paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. - costing so much... paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. that i costing so much... paperwork, i paperwork, paperwork. that leads me to simon. some great points, thank you very much indeed. it is more

difficult to import and make the point you are going to make... but i want to put it to you first, simon jack, our business editor, it's more difficult for businesses to import and more difficult for businesses to export as well. that is not normally the case when we are talking about currency levels, is it?— currency levels, is it? there are two things _ currency levels, is it? there are two things here. i currency levels, is it? there are two things here. one i currency levels, is it? there are two things here. one of i currency levels, is it? there are two things here. one of the i currency levels, is it? there are i two things here. one of the biggest impact of the brexit vote and it has stayed with us since 2016 was the value of the pound fell very significantly. about 16—20% lower now than it was before the referendum. that has been consistent throughout. what that does is it makes everything you import more expensive, because your pound is going less file when you are importing stuff. 50 going less file when you are importing stuff.— going less file when you are im-aortin stuff. , ., importing stuff. so export should be... should — importing stuff. so export should be... should be i importing stuff. so export should be... should be cheap— importing stuff. so export should be... should be cheap about i importing stuff. so export shouldj be... should be cheap about 5096 importing stuff. so export should i be... should be cheap about 5096 of our exp°ft5 — be... should be cheap about 5096 of our exp°ft5 go _ be... should be cheap about 5096 of our exp°ft5 go to — be... should be cheap about 5096 of our exports go to the i be... should be cheap about 5096 of our exports go to the eu. i be... should be cheap about 5096 of our exports go to the eu. so i be... should be cheap about 5096 of our exports go to the eu. so the i our exports go to the eu. so the hassle and the extra cost and the red tape you are just hearing about there, that basically offsets the

cheapness, the advantage you are getting from the currency. so your imports are more expensive, your export should be more competitive but are less so because half of going where there is lots of red tape. so you end up losing and as a country, we import more than we export. so when the pound goes down, as it has since 2016, it pushes prices up, which is why we are towards the top of the pack when it comes to inflationary pressures in the last few years. we comes to inflationary pressures in the last few years.— the last few years. we can go to helua in the last few years. we can go to helga in rugby- _ the last few years. we can go to helga in rugby. good i the last few years. we can go to helga in rugby. good morning, | the last few years. we can go to i helga in rugby. good morning, are you there? helga in rugby. good morning, are ou there? . helga in rugby. good morning, are you there?— helga in rugby. good morning, are you there?_ are i you there? yes, i am there. are excellent- _ you there? yes, i am there. are excellent. how— you there? yes, i am there. are excellent. how is i you there? yes, i am there. are excellent. how is it i you there? yes, i am there. are excellent. how is it for i you there? yes, i am there. are excellent. how is it for you? it l isa is a brit—astrophe. it is the combined _ is a brit—astrophe. it is the combined effects of brexit and covid, — combined effects of brexit and covid, equala combined effects of brexit and

covid, equal a brit—astrophe. combined effects of brexit and covid, equala brit—astrophe. but covid, equal a brit-astrophe. but ou can't covid, equala brit—astrophe. pm you can't extricate, can you, you can't say how much brexit is responsible for because of covid and the war in... responsible for because of covid and the war in- - -— the war in... well, the thing is, es, we the war in... well, the thing is, yes. we were — the war in... well, the thing is, yes, we were misled. i the war in... well, the thing is, yes, we were misled. there i the war in... well, the thing is, i yes, we were misled. there were some very slick— yes, we were misled. there were some very slick marketing and advertising around _ very slick marketing and advertising around the — very slick marketing and advertising around the leave campaign. remain didn't— around the leave campaign. remain didn't exactly get its act together, we sort _ didn't exactly get its act together, we sort of— didn't exactly get its act together, we sort of rested on our laurels somewhat— we sort of rested on our laurels somewhat and we didn't explain all of the _ somewhat and we didn't explain all of the benefits of staying in the eu and all— of the benefits of staying in the eu and all the things that we would lose once — and all the things that we would lose once we had got out and such like _ lose once we had got out and such like we _ lose once we had got out and such like. we just rested on my laurels and were — like. we just rested on my laurels and were too complacent. like. we just rested on my laurels i and were too complacent.i we and were too complacent. chris... we ended and were too complacent. chris. .. we ended u- and were too complacent. chris... we ended up in — and were too complacent. chris... we ended up in the _ and were too complacent. chris... we ended up in the position i and were too complacent. chris... we ended up in the position we i and were too complacent. chris... we ended up in the position we are. i and were too complacent. chris... we ended up in the position we are. an . ended up in the position we are. interesting ended up in the position we are. in interesting point about the passion on both sides. let's not talk about the referendum. we should be where we are now. i withdraw that comment. i absolutely withdraw that comment.

but, what is the way ahead, how do you get rid of the red tape, will? ask downing street, they don't seem to want— ask downing street, they don't seem to want to _ ask downing street, they don't seem to want to do it. the quickest way for me. _ to want to do it. the quickest way for me, northern ireland, that is part of— for me, northern ireland, that is part of the — for me, northern ireland, that is part of the uk. that border is the biggest _ part of the uk. that border is the biggest issue of it all, deal with that first — biggest issue of it all, deal with that first and then deal with the tradition— that first and then deal with the tradition it can't be that hard, surely — tradition it can't be that hard, surely it— tradition it can't be that hard, surely. it is not the biggest plays in the _ surely. it is not the biggest plays in the world that the government are going _ in the world that the government are going to _ in the world that the government are going to and it is ridiculous that it took— going to and it is ridiculous that it took them three years to get it done _ it took them three years to get it done and — it took them three years to get it done and no one has sat down and made _ done and no one has sat down and made an— done and no one has sat down and made an agreement. it isjust ridiculous _ made an agreement. it isjust ridiculous. three years. it is like the strikes — ridiculous. three years. it is like the strikes will go on for three years. — the strikes will go on for three years, ridiculous. sit down with people — years, ridiculous. sit down with people and talk to them, it is easy. common— people and talk to them, it is easy. common sense.— people and talk to them, it is easy. common sense. . , . , a. ,., common sense. yes, yes. chris mason, it is re common sense. yes, yes. chris mason, it is pretty intractable i common sense. yes, yes. chris mason, it is pretty intractable if i it is pretty intractable if something can be pretty intractable. are they edging toward some kind of a solution? , . , , ., are they edging toward some kind of a solution? , . , , . ., , a solution? they appear to be. there is certainly a —

a solution? they appear to be. there is certainly a more i a solution? they appear to be. there is certainly a more positive i a solution? they appear to be. there is certainly a more positive mood i a solution? they appear to be. there is certainly a more positive mood in l is certainly a more positive mood in the conversation and both sides are making warm noises. in recent days, voices are a little quieter which is often an indication they are edging towards something towards an arrangement. the big question there is going to be if, and it still remains and if, if they come up with some sort of deal that both sides like, what do northern ireland's democratic unionist party make of it? because they are not a fan of this idea of a so—called border in the irish sea because the idea it cuts northern ireland from the rest of the uk. if there are checks that they still don't like the look of, evenif they still don't like the look of, even if they are less than the ones that exist now, are they going to be willing to go back into power sharing devolved government in northern ireland? if they are not, that remains a kind of big hangover of the borisjohnson brexit deal that led to that northern ireland protocol. �* �* .. that led to that northern ireland protocol. �* �* ., .. that led to that northern ireland protocol. �* �* ., ., protocol. and we're going to say aoodb e protocol. and we're going to say goodbye to _ protocol. and we're going to say goodbye to the _ protocol. and we're going to say goodbye to the team i protocol. and we're going to say goodbye to the team there i protocol. and we're going to say goodbye to the team there and l protocol. and we're going to say i goodbye to the team there and that brexit discussion. right now it is

time for a look at the with carol kirkwood. hello again. for many of us, it's going to be a dry day with some sunshine but windy. the strongest winds will be in the north of the country and this is where we'll also have the most frequent showers, some of those will be wintry in the hills in scotland but there will be a lot of sunshine around. could catch the odd shower in wales and the south—west of england, as well as northern ireland and northern england. as the winds continue to strengthen through the course of the night, that may be of some concern, particularly so across the north of scotland, where we're looking at gales, even severe gales, by the middle of the night when the winds do peak. we also have this weather front sinking south across scotland, getting into northern england and northern ireland through the night, with some clear skies on either side. the risk of some ice on untreated surfaces where we've had the showers in parts of the highlands. as we head on through the course of tomorrow, this weather front continues to sink a little bit further south before flipping round and headed north through the day. on either side, there will be some sunshine and the winds only very slowly easing.

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