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the writing on the helmet reads we have freedom, give us wings to protect it. have freedom, give us wings to protect it— protect it. next up for the president _ protect it. next up for the president is _ protect it. next up for the president is a _ protect it. next up for the president is a visit - protect it. next up for the president is a visit to - protect it. next up for the - president is a visit to ukrainian troops training in the south—west of england. we will bring you it's now known that more than 11,500 people
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were killed in turkey and syria by massive earthquakes as the search for survivors continues. cheering. dramatic footage emerges of one success. a family of six are pulled alive from the rubble, in the syrian city, of idlib. many in turkey say the government isn't doing enough as the president sees the destruction for himself, and counts his country's dead. as of now, unfortunately the number of deceased is 8,574. the number of injured is 49,133. the number of collapsed buildings is 6,444.
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hello there. welcome to bbc news. president volodymyr zelensky has met king charles at buckingham palace. the ukrainian leader is in the uk on a surprise visit. this is the moment of that historic meeting. a warm handshake before conversation with king charles iii. a little earlier during lunch time, the president addressed the pa ct westminster pact westminster hall. in his address he said he was confident that the effect of winning the war will be a warning to future enemies, he's now left the palace and has travelled down to dorset.
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president wilensky says he represents all ukrainians fighting for peace. i represents all ukrainians fighting for eace. ., represents all ukrainians fighting for eace. . ., for peace. i have come here and stand before _ for peace. i have come here and stand before you _ for peace. i have come here and stand before you on _ for peace. i have come here and stand before you on behalf- for peace. i have come here and stand before you on behalf of. stand before you on behalf of the brave _ on behalf of every defender of the sky who— on behalf of every defender of the sky who protects ukraine against enemy— sky who protects ukraine against enemy aircraft and missiles. on behalf_ enemy aircraft and missiles. on behalf of— enemy aircraft and missiles. on behalf of our tenth command who fi-ht behalf of our tenth command who fight to— behalf of our tenth command who fight to restore our ukrainian borders _ fight to restore our ukrainian borders. on behalf of our people were _ borders. on behalf of our people were being trained now, including here in_ were being trained now, including here in britain. thank you britain. the president also presented the speaker of the house with a fighter jet helmet. speaker of the house with a fighter 'et helmet. , ., speaker of the house with a fighter
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'et helmet. , . , , ., ~ a's i will explain. the helmet of a real ukrainian pilot. he was one of our most _ real ukrainian pilot. he was one of our most successful, and he is one of our— our most successful, and he is one of our kings — our most successful, and he is one of our kings. the writing on the helmet— of our kings. the writing on the helmet reads, we have freedom. give us wings— helmet reads, we have freedom. give us wings to _ helmet reads, we have freedom. give us wings to protect it.— us wings to protect it. meanwhile on the round us wings to protect it. meanwhile on the ground in _ us wings to protect it. meanwhile on the ground in ukraine _ us wings to protect it. meanwhile on the ground in ukraine there - us wings to protect it. meanwhile on the ground in ukraine there has - us wings to protect it. meanwhile on | the ground in ukraine there has been fierce fighting. russian forces are closing in. they have reached one of the main highways to the city. there is house to house fighting in some
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areas on the outskirts. president putin is pushing hard for a victory before the first anniversary of his invasion of ukraine before ukraine takes delivery of promised western tanks from ukraine. on the battlefield, we follow guardsman hunting for the enemy. every minute counts. russian forces are attacking from three sides. this is the safest — are attacking from three sides. this is the safest place here in the front— is the safest place here in the front line _ is the safest place here in the front line because we have 1.5 km from _ front line because we have 1.5 km from the — front line because we have 1.5 km from the russian true border. a russian — from the russian true border. a russian troops in vladimir is group. now that _ russian troops in vladimir is group. now that we are here, we will try to find somebody. if
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now that we are here, we will try to find somebody-— find somebody. if they find russian forces, find somebody. if they find russian forces. they — find somebody. if they find russian forces, they will _ find somebody. if they find russian forces, they will drop _ find somebody. if they find russian forces, they will drop this - find somebody. if they find russian forces, they will drop this modified | forces, they will drop this modified german grenade. held in place with a bit of velcro. taste german grenade. held in place with a bit of velcro-— bit of velcro. we know that here a lot of russian _ bit of velcro. we know that here a lot of russian soldiers _ bit of velcro. we know that here a lot of russian soldiers working, i lot of russian soldiers working, living, — lot of russian soldiers working, living, sitting and so on. so, we 'ust living, sitting and so on. so, we just give — living, sitting and so on. so, we just give them some gift and you will see — just give them some gift and you will see. here was our grenade. it will see. here was our grenade. is time for us will see. here was our grenade. it is time for us to move now that the drone is back in the grenade has been dropped. we can't stay in this location for more than two or three minutes, because there is a risk that we will be targeted here. few
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dared to venture out. it feels like a city on borrowed time. but some still survive here in their basements. in the depths of war. in this darkness, we find a bright spark. seven—year—old anna. she lives with her mother, grandfather, two caps, and a dog called muscat. she is happy to see a familiar face. pablo from the white angels, our ukrainian police team. anna knows how to spring a trap. it can bite, she says. i sit in the cellar almost
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all day long, she tells me. in the street, i walk and take my dog for a walk. but she is afraid of the booms, and constantly comes back. only in the morning, at dawn when it is quiet, i can take her out, she says. anna's mother has turned down police offers of evaporation. she says nowhere in ukraine is safe and she can't afford to go abroad. the police see it differently. they say this is no place for a child, especially now. you think it's too dangerous to be here now? yes it's
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dangerous. bombing _ dangerous to be here now? yes it's dangerous. bombing every - dangerous to be here now? yes it's dangerous. bombing every time. i dangerous to be here now? yes it's i dangerous. bombing every time. this place _ dangerous. bombing every time. this place is _ dangerous. bombing every time. this place is under attack in the evening, _ place is under attack in the evening, in the morning, every time. all pablo— evening, in the morning, every time. all pablo can — evening, in the morning, every time. all pablo can do is keep her warm with a new sleeping bag. and hope she survives another night in the city the russians are trying to shout into submission. bbc news. much more on the situation in ukraine. the reaction to the presidents visit to london, we will bring it to you later in the next hour. the number of dead and the earthquakes that struck turkey and syria has now risen to more than 11,500. aid agencies say the time is running out to form any more survivors in the rubble. visiting some of the worst affected areas today. with the very laces from southern turkey is tom. jar;
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today. with the very laces from southern turkey is tom.- today. with the very laces from southern turkey is tom. joy is the rarest of moments _ southern turkey is tom. joy is the rarest of moments here. - southern turkey is tom. joy is the rarest of moments here. a - southern turkey is tom. joy is the rarest of moments here. a family | southern turkey is tom. joy is the l rarest of moments here. a family of six is pulled from the rubble. god is great they shout as survivors are taken is great they shout as survivors are ta ken to safety. is great they shout as survivors are taken to safety. but nature does not respect the front lines. they are struggling to get to this devastated area. in southern turkey, help arriving, but only for some. in the city of adina, families of the missing wait and watch. eight bodies were pulled from the wreckage of this building overnight. 0ne were pulled from the wreckage of this building overnight. one of them a child. this persons two granddaughters were asleep when the quake stuck. mr; granddaughters were asleep when the uuake stuck. ~ , ., , , granddaughters were asleep when the uuake stuck. ~ , . , , ., quake stuck. my little lambs are one. quake stuck. my little lambs are gone- please — quake stuck. my little lambs are gone. please save _ quake stuck. my little lambs are gone. please save them, - quake stuck. my little lambs are gone. please save them, she i quake stuck. my little lambs are i gone. please save them, she says. there _ gone. please save them, she says. there is— gone. please save them, she says. there is an — gone. please save them, she says. there is an intense focus on one part of the rubble here, and every times it happens it brings a flicker
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of hope for the relatives waiting anxiously for any kind of news. so far, none of that has been what they wanted. as the teams here are among the best equipped, as we travel further afield the news is much worse. every now and then, paramedicsjoin the worse. every now and then, paramedics join the rescue teams. but each time, by now, a tragic ritual, another body is found. the families have to identify the dead as the crowd mourn. another tragedy unfolds on these broken streets. but many remain cut off. turkey says more than 20,000 troops and rescue workers are now dispatched. but there is growing anger to as collapsed buildings go un—searched and survivors go hungry. turkeys president visited the homeless in one region this morning, promising several hundred dollars to each family there. this
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several hundred dollars to each family there-— family there. as of now, unfortunately, _ family there. as of now, unfortunately, the - family there. as of now, i unfortunately, the number family there. as of now, - unfortunately, the number of deceased is 8574. the number injured even more _ deceased is 8574. the number injured even more a — deceased is 8574. the number injured even more. a number of collapsed buildings _ even more. a number of collapsed buildings is — even more. a number of collapsed buildings is 6444. and now even more. a number of collapsed buildings is 6444. and— buildings is 6444. and now in the darkness, there _ buildings is 6444. and now in the darkness, there is _ buildings is 6444. and now in the darkness, there is still _ buildings is 6444. and now in the darkness, there is still some - darkness, there is still some flashes of hope. this four—year—old is taken alive. after checking that she is ok, a high five. is taken alive. after checking that she is ok, a highfive. 0ne is taken alive. after checking that she is ok, a high five. one child would save where so many others are perishing. bbc news in southern turkey. perishing. bbc news in southern turke . ~ turkey. our middle east correspondent - turkey. our middle east correspondent anna - turkey. our middle east i correspondent anna foster turkey. our middle east - correspondent anna foster has turkey. our middle east _ correspondent anna foster has been speaking from the city here. the president has been visiting today to see the rescue relief effort that is under way. see the rescue relief effort that is under way-— see the rescue relief effort that is underwa . �*, , , under way. he's been visiting some of their survivors, _ under way. he's been visiting some of their survivors, visiting _
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under way. he's been visiting some of their survivors, visiting some - under way. he's been visiting some of their survivors, visiting some ofl of their survivors, visiting some of the tented cities, and he has been talking about what the turkish government will try to do to help people. he has talked about a payment or equivalent around $500 to families in the affected areas. he was again talking about the number of buildings that are being destroyed, around six and a half hours and they believe in this area. the number of killed and injured, as course as you were saying keeps rising all the time. when you look at an apartment building like this —— | at an apartment building like this —— i was watching them take bodies out of here last night and again this morning. that is what that big digger is doing. it is pulling aside all of this rubble until they see the sign of the body. this morning was an armour clad in a purple top. at one point it was a leg. and then they stop and gently with their hands remove the body and they give it to the loved ones. the loved ones, many of whom you will see on the fringes here, they come and go and they wait for news because what
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they really want —— they know that their loved ones have already perished inside this building, but what they want our essentially some kind of answers. they want a body. they want to be able to have a funeral. they want to be able to see their loved 11 final time. when that does happen, the emotion —— i watched one man earlier today identify the body of his father. to be on the middle of something like that, just witnessing that extraordinary grief and emotion at the worst moment in that persons life and to realise that that is only one story, only one experience being replicated throughout streets and towns and cities. it really gives you an idea, a small idea not of the scale of this but as of the human toll but it has taken as well. anna, we talk about 11,000 dead. these are people, theirfamilies, their children. these are entire livelihoods that are gone. right
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across southern turkey into syria. some of the most already devastated parts of the world because of that ongoing war in syria. and now this. you're right. the point again that you make about those small numbers and remembering that they are individuals —— there was a woman i was standing next to this morning who was waiting for the body of her daughter. they found a small makeup bag. that was the first thing they found. and when they handed it across to her she clutched it close. it wasn't yet the body of her daughter, but it was something to move her a step closer. as you say as well, northwest syria, really important in all of this. that is the rubble home area of syria. it is where thousands of people have been displaced for over a decade since the beginning of the civil war and syria. it is where aid cannot arrive quickly the way it has. it's taken
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several days to get here, but here, planes come around, trucks, cars, people can move where in north wisteria —— we talk about this on the programme before —— there is only one open which has to be given a mandate by the council it was every year —— it's now every six months —— because of objections last summer. that makes it enormously difficult to just suddenly lined up aid and take them through. it doesn't work that way. it puts the people are not part of the region —— they are having to wait even longer for the help that they so desperately need. we for the help that they so desperately need. for the help that they so deseratel need. ~ ., ., ., ., desperately need. we are going to go back to our top _ desperately need. we are going to go back to our top story, _ desperately need. we are going to go back to our top story, which - desperately need. we are going to go back to our top story, which is - desperately need. we are going to go back to our top story, which is the - back to our top story, which is the visit of the president to london. 0ur political correspondent is here
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and we are going to talk to director of defence of security institute. and here in the studio i am joined by a research fellow and manager of the ukraine forum in the russia and eurasia programme at the think tank chatham house and our political correspondent. it's great to have you with us. i want to talk to helen first. 0ne you with us. i want to talk to helen first. one wonders, helen, how that love can be translated into pressure potentially from parliamentarians on the government to give president zelenskyy what he wants, which is fighterjets. it zelenskyy what he wants, which is fiuhter 'ets. , zelenskyy what he wants, which is fighterjets— fighter 'ets. it is. boris johnson has fighterjets. it is. boris johnson has immediately _ fighterjets. it is. boris johnson has immediately applied - fighterjets. it is. boris johnson has immediately applied the i fighterjets. it is. boris johnson - has immediately applied the pressure after president zelenskyy six beat earlier on. he put out a speech saying the uk needed to give ukraine what it needed, and that means planes. he was pretty bold about it.
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that has increased the pressure to an extent. the way that president zelenskyy made his pitch, his plea as you like as part of that speech was very powerful, handing over a helmet, he said, from a real ukrainian pilot, saying we have freedom, give us wings. it was a very powerful way of doing that. i think perhaps that will increase the pressure. we have seen a slight shift this afternoon from downing street after that speech. downing street after that speech. downing street has now said the defence secretary ben wallace has been tasked with investigating what claims the uk may be able to provide but did stress that this was a long—term solution. but did stress that this was a long-term solution. but did stress that this was a lonr-term solution. , ., ., ., long-term solution. jonathan here in the studio. long-term solution. jonathan here in the studio- he _ long-term solution. jonathan here in the studio. he is _ long-term solution. jonathan here in the studio. he is asking _ long-term solution. jonathan here in the studio. he is asking for- long-term solution. jonathan here in the studio. he is asking for fighter i the studio. he is asking for fighter jets. ben wallace is going to have a look at what is in the cupboard. what is likely to be in the cupboard?— what is likely to be in the cupboard? what is likely to be in the cuboard? ., ., ., cupboard? not an awful lot the cupboard- _ cupboard? not an awful lot the cupboard. there _ cupboard? not an awful lot the cupboard. there is _ cupboard? not an awful lot the cupboard. there is a _ cupboard? not an awful lot the cupboard. there is a certain i cupboard? not an awful lot the - cupboard. there is a certain amount of political _ cupboard. there is a certain amount of political expediency or in the plans— of political expediency or in the plans have not been thought through ithink— plans have not been thought through i think it's _ plans have not been thought through i think it's fair to say. so there
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is a _ i think it's fair to say. so there is a danger— i think it's fair to say. so there is a danger of writing checks that you will— is a danger of writing checks that you will struggle to cash. that said. — you will struggle to cash. that said. if— you will struggle to cash. that said, if there is a will there will be away — said, if there is a will there will be away. and we do know that for example — be away. and we do know that for example there are around 20 typhoon trans one _ example there are around 20 typhoon trans one jets which are due to come out of— trans one jets which are due to come out of service — trans one jets which are due to come out of service soon, potentially you could _ out of service soon, potentially you could give — out of service soon, potentially you could give ukraine that. but you remember, you've got to first of all trained pilots to fly them. they are struggling — trained pilots to fly them. they are struggling to train their own pilots~ — struggling to train their own pilots in _ struggling to train their own pilots. in one case, nine years to train _ pilots. in one case, nine years to train a _ pilots. in one case, nine years to train a fighterjet pilot. so are they— train a fighterjet pilot. so are they going to interrupt their programme and their own security needs— programme and their own security needs and — programme and their own security needs and priorities to do that because — needs and priorities to do that because mark don't have to if they are going — because mark don't have to if they are going to give them. again, as helen— are going to give them. again, as helen said. — are going to give them. again, as helen said, they are talking about the long—term. but there's also the maintenance of these aircraft. you have _ maintenance of these aircraft. you have to _ maintenance of these aircraft. you have to train engineers. so were not looking _ have to train engineers. so were not looking at— have to train engineers. so were not looking at something that even if it's possible will happen imminently. this will take a year to 18 mohths—
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imminently. this will take a year to 18 months if— imminently. this will take a year to 18 months if you're going to give it the nod _ 18 months if you're going to give it the nod and do it. it's not impossible. but you do feel like at the moment they are struggling to work out how they're going to do this _ work out how they're going to do this. , ., ., ., this. they were going to get tanks ruestion this. they were going to get tanks question now _ this. they were going to get tanks question now they _ this. they were going to get tanks question now they are. _ this. they were going to get tanks question now they are. the - this. they were going to get tanks i question now they are. the different elements and components of nato and so on, they have competing interests to. further down the line, we may end up sending the object. this to. further down the line, we may end up sending the object.- end up sending the ob'ect. this is what we have t end up sending the ob'ect. this is what we have seen _ end up sending the object. this is what we have seen throughout i end up sending the object. this is| what we have seen throughout the end up sending the object. this is - what we have seen throughout the war from the very start. the question is, whether at this critical moment and ukraine is at the critical moment, where russia is amassing a new wave of offensive operations throughout the spring and summer campaign, and we do know that putin is not giving up on his war aims. ukraine needs both to defend and potentially liberate more of its
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territory. ukrainian armed forces are proving they are capable of doing it. they have morale, they have training which i had before from the uk government and other allies. , we don't want this war to turn into the long smoldering war in europe. so the question is, are we able to put resources, dedicate resources into training and try to boost and send a political message to putin, because weapon supply is not only about the kit it's also about the message that we can all get for it. about the message that we can all net for it. ., ,,., about the message that we can all net for it. ., get for it. professor, ifi could bring you _ get for it. professor, ifi could bring you in — get for it. professor, ifi could bring you in now. _ get for it. professor, ifi could bring you in now. the - get for it. professor, ifi could bring you in now. the timing i get for it. professor, if i could| bring you in now. the timing is clear coming up to the anniversary of this war, but also the possibility of some kind of spring offensive from the russians. we were hearing about the situation on the ground. just explain the significance of the battle that is going on for that particular city at the moment. i
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going on for that particular city at the moment-— going on for that particular city at the moment. i think it has quite a bit of significance _ the moment. i think it has quite a bit of significance because - the moment. i think it has quite a bit of significance because all - bit of significance because all sides— bit of significance because all sides have _ bit of significance because all sides have devoted _ bit of significance because all sides have devoted very- bit of significance because all - sides have devoted very substantial resources _ sides have devoted very substantial resources to — sides have devoted very substantial resources to it. _ sides have devoted very substantial resources to it. in _ sides have devoted very substantial resources to it. in the _ sides have devoted very substantial resources to it. in the russian - sides have devoted very substantial resources to it. in the russian case| resources to it. in the russian case to the _ resources to it. in the russian case to the offensive _ resources to it. in the russian case to the offensive and _ resources to it. in the russian case to the offensive and ukraine, - resources to it. in the russian case to the offensive and ukraine, and l to the offensive and ukraine, and pretty— to the offensive and ukraine, and pretty significant— to the offensive and ukraine, and pretty significant forces, - to the offensive and ukraine, and pretty significant forces, not - pretty significant forces, not perhaps _ pretty significant forces, not perhaps all— pretty significant forces, not perhaps all the _ pretty significant forces, not perhaps all the best - pretty significant forces, not perhaps all the best recent i pretty significant forces, not - perhaps all the best recent sources or forces— perhaps all the best recent sources or forces but— perhaps all the best recent sources or forces but significant _ perhaps all the best recent sources or forces but significant into - or forces but significant into defending _ or forces but significant into defending it. _ or forces but significant into defending it. so— or forces but significant into defending it. so if— or forces but significant into defending it. so if it - or forces but significant intoj defending it. so if it were to or forces but significant into i defending it. so if it were to be lost -- — defending it. so if it were to be lost -- a — defending it. so if it were to be lost -- a lot— defending it. so if it were to be lost —— a lot depends _ defending it. so if it were to be lost —— a lot depends on - defending it. so if it were to be lost —— a lot depends on how. defending it. so if it were to be i lost —— a lot depends on how big a price _ lost —— a lot depends on how big a price russia has _ lost —— a lot depends on how big a price russia has paid to _ lost —— a lot depends on how big a price russia has paid to gain- lost —— a lot depends on how big a price russia has paid to gain if- price russia has paid to gain if indeed — price russia has paid to gain if indeed the _ price russia has paid to gain if indeed the city _ price russia has paid to gain if indeed the city does _ price russia has paid to gain if indeed the city does fall, - price russia has paid to gain if. indeed the city does fall, because the greater— indeed the city does fall, because the greater that _ indeed the city does fall, because the greater that price, _ indeed the city does fall, because the greater that price, the - indeed the city does fall, because the greater that price, the less i the greater that price, the less resources _ the greater that price, the less resources russian _ the greater that price, the less resources russian will- the greater that price, the less resources russian will have, i the greater that price, the less i resources russian will have, both the greater that price, the less - resources russian will have, both in terms _ resources russian will have, both in terms of— resources russian will have, both in terms of men — resources russian will have, both in terms of men but _ resources russian will have, both in terms of men but in _ resources russian will have, both in terms of men but in terms - resources russian will have, both in terms of men but in terms of- terms of men but in terms of material— terms of men but in terms of material for _ terms of men but in terms of material for taking _ terms of men but in terms ofj material for taking offensives elsewhere _ material for taking offensives elsewhere i_ material for taking offensives elsewhere. i think— material for taking offensives elsewhere. i think the - material for taking offensives elsewhere. i think the next i material for taking offensives i elsewhere. i think the next few months — elsewhere. i think the next few months are _ elsewhere. i think the next few months are likely _ elsewhere. i think the next few months are likely to _ elsewhere. i think the next few months are likely to see - elsewhere. i think the next few months are likely to see quite i elsewhere. i think the next few| months are likely to see quite a overall— months are likely to see quite a overall terms— months are likely to see quite a overall terms the _ months are likely to see quite a overall terms the battlefront. months are likely to see quite a overall terms the battlefront is| overall terms the battlefront is relatively— overall terms the battlefront is relatively static _ overall terms the battlefront is relatively static but _ overall terms the battlefront is relatively static but probably i overall terms the battlefront is - relatively static but probably some gains _ relatively static but probably some gains from — relatively static but probably some gains from ukrainians _ relatively static but probably some gains from ukrainians elsewhere. i relatively static but probably somel gains from ukrainians elsewhere. it doesn't _ gains from ukrainians elsewhere. it doesn't feel— gains from ukrainians elsewhere. it doesn't feel to _
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gains from ukrainians elsewhere. it doesn't feel to me _ gains from ukrainians elsewhere. it doesn't feel to me that _ gains from ukrainians elsewhere. it doesn't feel to me that we - gains from ukrainians elsewhere. it doesn't feel to me that we are - doesn't feel to me that we are anywhere _ doesn't feel to me that we are anywhere near— doesn't feel to me that we are anywhere near either- doesn't feel to me that we are anywhere near either side - doesn't feel to me that we are . anywhere near either side making doesn't feel to me that we are - anywhere near either side making the sort of— anywhere near either side making the sort of decisive — anywhere near either side making the sort of decisive breakthrough - anywhere near either side making the sort of decisive breakthrough that - sort of decisive breakthrough that would _ sort of decisive breakthrough that would allow— sort of decisive breakthrough that would allow an _ sort of decisive breakthrough that would allow an end _ sort of decisive breakthrough that would allow an end to _ sort of decisive breakthrough that would allow an end to the - sort of decisive breakthrough that would allow an end to the war - sort of decisive breakthrough that would allow an end to the war toi would allow an end to the war to come _ would allow an end to the war to come that's _ would allow an end to the war to come. that's why actually- would allow an end to the war to come. that's why actually does i would allow an end to the war to| come. that's why actually does a discussion— come. that's why actually does a discussion we've _ come. that's why actually does a discussion we've just— come. that's why actually does a discussion we've just been - come. that's why actually does a | discussion we've just been having about— discussion we've just been having about the — discussion we've just been having about the supply— discussion we've just been having about the supply of _ discussion we've just been having about the supply of fighter- discussion we've just been havingl about the supply of fighter aircraft errors _ about the supply of fighter aircraft errors is— about the supply of fighter aircraft errors is important, _ about the supply of fighter aircraft errors is important, not— about the supply of fighter aircraft errors is important, not because i errors is important, not because it's going — errors is important, not because it's going to _ errors is important, not because it's going to make _ errors is important, not because it's going to make a _ errors is important, not because it's going to make a difference i errors is important, not because| it's going to make a difference in the next — it's going to make a difference in the next months, _ it's going to make a difference in the next months, but _ it's going to make a difference in the next months, but because i it's going to make a difference in the next months, but because if| it's going to make a difference in - the next months, but because if this war does— the next months, but because if this war does go— the next months, but because if this war does go on — the next months, but because if this war does go on much— the next months, but because if this war does go on much longer- the next months, but because if this war does go on much longer it - the next months, but because if this war does go on much longer it will. war does go on much longer it will be absolutely _ war does go on much longer it will be absolutely key _ war does go on much longer it will be absolutely key towards - war does go on much longer it will be absolutely key towards the - war does go on much longer it will be absolutely key towards the endj war does go on much longer it will. be absolutely key towards the end of the year _ be absolutely key towards the end of the year and — be absolutely key towards the end of the year and 2024. _ be absolutely key towards the end of the year and 2024.— the year and 2024. sure. before i them to respond _ the year and 2024. sure. before i them to respond to _ the year and 2024. sure. before i them to respond to that, - the year and 2024. sure. before i them to respond to that, we're i the year and 2024. sure. before i i them to respond to that, we're just going to bring life pictures. this is where we are expecting the press conference, joint press conference with president zelenskyy. and rishi sunak. that is coming in the next few minutes. when we get it we will of course bring it with you here on bbc news. the suggestion that this could be a psychologicalfillet bbc news. the suggestion that this could be a psychological fillet for the russians if they do take the city, strategically, perhaps less critical. but as malcolm chambers
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was suggesting, if this conflict does go on into another year, three, four, five, then the amount of weaponry that the west is providing will be crucial in order to maintain the situation.— the situation. absolutely. and i think ukraine _ the situation. absolutely. and i think ukraine has _ the situation. absolutely. and i think ukraine has to _ the situation. absolutely. and i think ukraine has to re-equip l the situation. absolutely. and i i think ukraine has to re-equip its think ukraine has to re—equip its military across the board, and we are already seeing infantry, we are seeing the battle tanks, the armoured vehicles, the new electronic warfare abilities, drones. and of course you need the full kit in order to operate effectively. you need this air force to protect your battlefield tanks, otherwise it's a waste of resource because you need the umbrella over it. but i think in the east where the heavy fighting is going on, putin is trying to retake for the anniversary. it's impossible, because he only controls 50% of the
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region and he is making very low progress at a very high cost. he's not going to get it. this is clear. i think throughout time as ukraine retrained its troops, and they are already in training in the uk, and the us bases in germany, it will be prepared to both inflict a heavier cost. let's remember what we are here out. we are trying to defeat the russian troops on ukrainian territory. nobody threatens the territory. nobody threatens the territory of the russian federation. i think the sooner the russian leadership understands this, the faster they will be an end to this war. i faster they will be an end to this war. ., faster they will be an end to this war. . ., faster they will be an end to this war. ., ., . ., faster they will be an end to this war. . ., . ., . ., ., ., faster they will be an end to this war. . .,. ., ., ., ., war. i want to chat, jonathan, about russia and — war. i want to chat, jonathan, about russia and their _ war. i want to chat, jonathan, about russia and their capability _ war. i want to chat, jonathan, about russia and their capability and - war. i want to chat, jonathan, about russia and their capability and a - russia and their capability and a second. but these are life pictures that were showing you now. this is from dorset and it's where ukrainian troops are being trained by british forces. president zelenskyy and rishi sunak there. that's where we are going to get thatjoint news conference, hopefully in the next few minutes, which will we will bring you here. we are talking a lot
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jonathan about the capability of ukraine. what about the russians? i was they are about six months ago. talking to analysts saying the way that russians fight wars as they just chuck another log on the fire, another log on the fire. it's a grinding machine of men. you just pummel, and primal, and pummel. are they running out of men? are they getting anywhere near that because did they have weapon? they continue to make weapons in a way that ukrainians cannot. that's why president zelenskyy is here. but what is their military capability on the ground?— the ground? well it's not as strong as it started _ the ground? well it's not as strong as it started that's _ the ground? well it's not as strong as it started that's for _ as it started that's for sure. they've _ as it started that's for sure. they've lost a lot of men, some estimates — they've lost a lot of men, some estimates as many as a killed and wounded — estimates as many as a killed and wounded. which is astonishing. you've — wounded. which is astonishing. you've always got to remember when you say— you've always got to remember when you say that, that ukraine is lost a lot of— you say that, that ukraine is lost a lot of men — you say that, that ukraine is lost a lot of men-— lot of men. that's important to oint lot of men. that's important to point out- _ lot of men. that's important to point out. but _ lot of men. that's important to point out. but we _ lot of men. that's important to point out. but we do _ lot of men. that's important to point out. but we do not - lot of men. that's important to point out. but we do not know| lot of men. that's important to i point out. but we do not know the exact figures of _
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point out. but we do not know the exact figures of how _ point out. but we do not know the exact figures of how much - point out. but we do not know the i exact figures of how much omissions russia _ exact figures of how much omissions russia is— exact figures of how much omissions russia is producing. some estimate there _ russia is producing. some estimate there is— russia is producing. some estimate there is a _ russia is producing. some estimate there is a very limited number of accurate — there is a very limited number of accurate precision cruise, missiles they can _ accurate precision cruise, missiles they can produce in the month at the moment _ they can produce in the month at the moment. there are suggestions from western— moment. there are suggestions from western intelligence that they may be running low on artillery rounds. but they— be running low on artillery rounds. but they are still using them in large _ but they are still using them in large quantities, perhaps not as large _ large quantities, perhaps not as large of— large quantities, perhaps not as large of a — large quantities, perhaps not as large of a quantity as they were using _ large of a quantity as they were using six— large of a quantity as they were using six months ago. so they have seen a _ using six months ago. so they have seen a reduction in the number of arterial— seen a reduction in the number of arterial rebounds being fired. but they have — arterial rebounds being fired. but they have mobilised 200,000 people, and they— they have mobilised 200,000 people, and they control the prisons, —— mark— and they control the prisons, —— mark patrol— and they control the prisons, —— mark patrol the prisons, just like a private _ mark patrol the prisons, just like a private military army that is fighting _ private military army that is fighting. they have resources. you have _ fighting. they have resources. you have to _ fighting. they have resources. you have to remember history as well. huge _ have to remember history as well. huge sums — have to remember history as well. huge sums of people being thrown into the _ huge sums of people being thrown into the battle by the russians. they're — into the battle by the russians. they're not really that worried
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about — they're not really that worried about losses. it is the end goal but is important to them. i think it would — is important to them. i think it would be a _ is important to them. i think it would be a fool to rule out russia's capabilities. there is no doubt that they are _ capabilities. there is no doubt that they are now much weaker than they are, and _ they are now much weaker than they are, and there are questions if they are going _ are, and there are questions if they are going to— are, and there are questions if they are going to launch an eminent offensive, which lots of people believe — offensive, which lots of people believe they will and some say they have already started, have they got the resources to keep that going? will they— the resources to keep that going? will they culminate? so i think there _ will they culminate? so i think there are — will they culminate? so i think there are big questions. but the fact that — there are big questions. but the fact that president zelenskyy is here _ fact that president zelenskyy is here app— fact that president zelenskyy is here app and for weapons, asking for aircraft. _ here app and for weapons, asking for aircraft, tells you they know that there's _ aircraft, tells you they know that there's war is far from over. i 'ust want to say there i there's war is far from over. i 'ust want to say there are i there's war is far from over. i 'ust want to say there are some h there's war is far from over. inst want to say there are some parallels in history, but let's remember this is not a defensive war that russia is not a defensive war that russia is fighting on its territory like in the second world war. this is an offensive war. they don't know the train. the terrain is very open, it's very difficult to progress in
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this counteroffensive. but also let's remember sanctions. there were new sanctions imposed today to prevent russians aviation, to replenish the stock, to rearm. i think this is significant. more pressure should be put on limiting russian capacity to finance the war and to actually rearm. has russian capacity to finance the war and to actually rearm.— russian capacity to finance the war and to actually rearm. has an up and that regard? — and to actually rearm. has an up and that regard? quite _ and to actually rearm. has an up and that regard? quite a _ and to actually rearm. has an up and that regard? quite a lot _ and to actually rearm. has an up and that regard? quite a lot has - that regard? quite a lot has been done, but that regard? quite a lot has been done. but i _ that regard? quite a lot has been done, but i think— that regard? quite a lot has been done, but i think there _ that regard? quite a lot has been done, but i think there are - that regard? quite a lot has been. done, but i think there are pockets where russia uses the dark market. there are still companies that are trying to violate sanctions. in the private sector we find some of the civilian industry now used for military industry. we need stronger oversight. we have just had a response from their embassy in britain to my whining london against sending fighterjets to ukraine saying that such a move would have military and political consequences for the european continent. and the entire world. this is being reported by the
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reuters news agency, quoting the task news agency. so i response there from the russians on the suggestion that mr zielinski is asking for russian fighterjets. at this stage, i should welcome our viewers on bbc world for analysis and continuing coverage on president volodymyr zelenskyy�*s impromptu visit to london today. mark, if i could bring you in on that response from russia concerning the suggestion that fighterjets might, suggestion that fighter jets might, might suggestion that fighterjets might, might not be in the offering. lots of threats have come from vladimir putin, and what we have seen throughout this war is the gradual increase in the level of support that the west has been willing to give. they have done it in stages. shoulder propelled launches onto military vehicles and now tanks. this has been, one
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assumes, calibrated to marry in relation to russia's possible response to any escalation from the west, and i wonder if the russians are now saying, "watch it, don't send them fighterjets." how that could affect the calculus for washington and brussels and paris and london. washington and brussels and paris and london-— and london. that's a very good question- _ and london. that's a very good question- i _ and london. that's a very good question. i think— and london. that's a very good question. i think the _ and london. that's a very good question. i think the united - and london. that's a very good i question. i think the united states in particular have to analyse this as well and have adopted a policy, wouldn't you agree, of gradually boiling the frog and not putting everything we can write at the beginning but gradually adding new and more sophisticated capabilities as the war has gone on and now we are moving into the debate, of course, but fighter aircraft. are moving into the debate, of course, but fighteraircraft. but are moving into the debate, of course, but fighter aircraft. but i have to say that russia has said this before, they said this in to battle tanks, i don't find it all
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convincing. it's what we would expect them to say, when you? so i thinks the risks of escalation are actually quite low, providing that we stick, ukraine sticks to the policy of not attacking the territory of russia itself with western supplied weapons. and providing russia still feels it can achieve what it wants to achieve, at least to some extent by the use of its conventional forces. where escalation risks may start to arise, if russia sees itself facing a comprehensive defeat in ukraine and possibly involving crimea, but we are a long way away from that moment. that is not where we are right now. i think the prospect for the next few months is about to my possibly russia making some more advanced moves and the donbas, and possibly ukraine with extra support
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launching a counteroffensive against a land bridge to crimea or elsewhere, but i think the prospect for escalation for now is relatively limited. ., , ., . ., , limited. helen, do you detect any softening in _ limited. helen, do you detect any softening in the _ limited. helen, do you detect any softening in the union _ limited. helen, do you detect any softening in the union there - limited. helen, do you detect any. softening in the union there seems to be between labour and the conservatives? and how to best handle the ukraine situation? are they still lockstep in unity on this? , , ., , , . , this? they seem to pretty much be so. this? they seem to pretty much be so- naturally. _ this? they seem to pretty much be so. naturally, what _ this? they seem to pretty much be so. naturally, what was _ this? they seem to pretty much bej so. naturally, what was interesting was to— so. naturally, what was interesting was to watch my ministers questions earlier— was to watch my ministers questions earlier which came directly before president — earlier which came directly before president zelensky gave his speech in parliament. that was really an outbreak— in parliament. that was really an outbreak of unity, there was very little _ outbreak of unity, there was very little differentiation between labour — little differentiation between labour and the conservatives on this and the _ labour and the conservatives on this and the government seems they are standing _ and the government seems they are standing shoulder to shoulder and what needs to be done to help ukraine — what needs to be done to help ukraine. actually, that is something else come _ ukraine. actually, that is something else come away from the very specific— else come away from the very specific ask that you president zelensky made this morning for those planes, _ zelensky made this morning for those planes, the _ zelensky made this morning for those planes, the other thing that has been _ planes, the other thing that has been gained from his visit here
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today— been gained from his visit here today is— been gained from his visit here today is that show of solidarity, not just — today is that show of solidarity, not just within the uk, today is that show of solidarity, notjust within the uk, but more widely— notjust within the uk, but more widely that the symbolism of president zelensky in his khaki, standing — president zelensky in his khaki, standing in the oldest part of parliament, westminster hall, where the king _ parliament, westminster hall, where the king stood not so many months a-o the king stood not so many months ago and _ the king stood not so many months ago and almost the exact same spot to address _ ago and almost the exact same spot to address mps, looking at this room that was packed to the rafters with mps, _ that was packed to the rafters with mps, members of the house of lords, with others— mps, members of the house of lords, with others all standing there in complete — with others all standing there in complete silence listening to him cheering. — complete silence listening to him cheering, applauding, that sends a very strong message that support for ukraine _ very strong message that support for ukraine is— very strong message that support for ukraine is still strong in the last. do you _ ukraine is still strong in the last. do you have relatives in ukraine? part of my family lives in ukraine. where _ part of my family lives in ukraine. where are— part of my family lives in ukraine. where are they? _ part of my family lives in ukraine. where are they?— where are they? they are in the western part _ where are they? they are in the western part of _ where are they? they are in the western part of ukraine, - where are they? they are in the western part of ukraine, but - where are they? they are in the western part of ukraine, but as | where are they? they are in the i western part of ukraine, but as we say now. _ western part of ukraine, but as we say now. no— western part of ukraine, but as we say now. no part _ western part of ukraine, but as we say now, no part of _ western part of ukraine, but as we say now, no part of ukraine - western part of ukraine, but as we say now, no part of ukraine is- say now, no part of ukraine is spared — say now, no part of ukraine is spared in _ say now, no part of ukraine is spared in this— say now, no part of ukraine is spared in this war _ say now, no part of ukraine is spared in this war a _ say now, no part of ukraine is spared in this war a that - say now, no part of ukraine is spared in this war a that was. say now, no part of ukraine is- spared in this war a that was going to be _ spared in this war a that was going to be my— spared in this war a that was going to be my question, _ spared in this war a that was going to be my question, actually. - to be my question, actually. ballistic— to be my question, actually. ballistic missiles _ to be my question, actually. ballistic missiles or- to be my question, actually. ballistic missiles or to - to be my question, actually. j ballistic missiles or to string power— ballistic missiles or to string power stations, _ ballistic missiles or to string power stations, there - ballistic missiles or to string power stations, there a - ballistic missiles or to string - power stations, there a shortage of electricity— power stations, there a shortage of electricity all — power stations, there a shortage of
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electricity all over— power stations, there a shortage of electricity all over ukraine. - power stations, there a shortage of electricity all over ukraine. there i electricity all over ukraine. there is disruption, _ electricity all over ukraine. there is disruption, you _ electricity all over ukraine. there is disruption, you know, - electricity all over ukraine. there is disruption, you know, of- electricity all over ukraine. there - is disruption, you know, of economy, ukraine _ is disruption, you know, of economy, ukraine has— is disruption, you know, of economy, ukraine has lost _ is disruption, you know, of economy, ukraine has lost thomas _ is disruption, you know, of economy, ukraine has lost thomas 55% - is disruption, you know, of economy, ukraine has lost thomas 55% of- is disruption, you know, of economy, ukraine has lost thomas 55% of its i ukraine has lost thomas 55% of its gdp _ ukraine has lost thomas 55% of its gdp. ., ~ , ., ukraine has lost thomas 55% of its gdp. ., ~ i. ., ukraine has lost thomas 55% of its gdp. ., ., ., . t ukraine has lost thomas 55% of its gdp. ., ., ., . �* ., gdp. thank you for that. we've now not the gdp. thank you for that. we've now got the press _ gdp. thank you for that. we've now got the press conference _ gdp. thank you for that. we've now got the press conference with - gdp. thank you for that. we've now got the press conference with rishil got the press conference with rishi sunak and volodymyr zelenskyy. it is a rivile . e sunak and volodymyr zelenskyy. it is a privilege to stand with you here today, _ a privilege to stand with you here today, mr — a privilege to stand with you here today, mrzielinski, a privilege to stand with you here today, mr zielinski, and a happy you here in_ today, mr zielinski, and a happy you here in the _ today, mr zielinski, and a happy you here in the united kingdom. the path from ukraine to the uk has been well trodden— from ukraine to the uk has been well trodden the past six months with 10,000 _ trodden the past six months with 10,000 of— trodden the past six months with 10,000 of your soldiers making the journey— 10,000 of your soldiers making the journey for— 10,000 of your soldiers making the journey for military training and more _ journey for military training and more arriving every week. just a few days ago. _ more arriving every week. just a few days ago, dozens arrived to learn how to _ days ago, dozens arrived to learn how to operate our challenger two tanks _ how to operate our challenger two tanks i'm — how to operate our challenger two tanks. i'm told they are already mastering — tanks. i'm told they are already mastering the art of driving the 6210 _ mastering the art of driving the 6210 sophisticated weapons which will soon — 6210 sophisticated weapons which will soon be making a difference on the of— will soon be making a difference on the of your— will soon be making a difference on the of your country. all of the united — the of your country. all of the united kingdom, you men and women are learning _ united kingdom, you men and women are learning how to, and and control nato standard weapons, whether that is in your— nato standard weapons, whether that is in your own warfare, tank operations— is in your own warfare, tank operations or basic training. their dedication. —
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operations or basic training. their dedication, courage and determination is a credit to you and your country. volodymyr zelenskyy, your country. volodymyr zelenskyy, your visit _ your country. volodymyr zelenskyy, your visit here today underlines our two countries close and enduring friendship. we will always be by your side — friendship. we will always be by your side, your staunch and unwavering friends. we both know the people _ unwavering friends. we both know the people of— unwavering friends. we both know the people of ukraine's incredible strength and inspiring bravery will ultimately defeat tire any. that is why we _ ultimately defeat tire any. that is why we are — ultimately defeat tire any. that is why we are training and arming them with the _ why we are training and arming them with the equipment they needed to push back— with the equipment they needed to push back russian forces. and as i said to _ push back russian forces. and as i said to her— push back russian forces. and as i said to her earlier today, we are also _ said to her earlier today, we are also accelerating the delivery of our equipment, the equipment of our allies— our equipment, the equipment of our allies to _ our equipment, the equipment of our allies to ensure that it reaches your— allies to ensure that it reaches your front _ allies to ensure that it reaches your front line in coming days and weeks. _ your front line in coming days and weeks. not — your front line in coming days and weeks, not months or years. ukrainian _ weeks, not months or years. ukrainian crews who arrived last week— ukrainian crews who arrived last week will— ukrainian crews who arrived last week will be using challenger two tanks _ week will be using challenger two tanks to— week will be using challenger two tanks to defend ukraine's sovereign territory— tanks to defend ukraine's sovereign territory next month. and i am pleased — territory next month. and i am pleased that today we have agreed that we _ pleased that today we have agreed that we will expand our training programme, a programme that has
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trained _ programme, a programme that has trained 10,000 troops in the last six months — trained 10,000 troops in the last six months alone to your marines and fighter— six months alone to your marines and fighterjet_ six months alone to your marines and fighterjet pilots. ensuring the armed — fighterjet pilots. ensuring the armed forces of ukraine are able to defend _ armed forces of ukraine are able to defend their country for generations to come _ defend their country for generations to come. we must arm ukraine in the short— to come. we must arm ukraine in the short term, _ to come. we must arm ukraine in the short term, but we must bolster ukraine for— short term, but we must bolster ukraine for the long term. your country— ukraine for the long term. your country cannot be left vulnerable to attack _ country cannot be left vulnerable to attack ever— country cannot be left vulnerable to attack ever again. today we have signed _ attack ever again. today we have signed the — attack ever again. today we have signed the london declaration further— signed the london declaration further deepening our cooperation and in _ further deepening our cooperation and in the — further deepening our cooperation and in the coming days, we will mark and in the coming days, we will mark a year— and in the coming days, we will mark a year since — and in the coming days, we will mark a year since this needless and unprovoked invasion, and russia will see more _ unprovoked invasion, and russia will see more than ever that their tactics — see more than ever that their tactics are _ see more than ever that their tactics are only solidifying western resolve _ tactics are only solidifying western resolve. only convincing us to go further— resolve. only convincing us to go further and — resolve. only convincing us to go further and faster to help you, president _ further and faster to help you, president zelensky, and we well. after— president zelensky, and we well. after all. — president zelensky, and we well. after all, you told me last week that collective international unity is your _ that collective international unity is your greatest weapon, and you can
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be sure _ is your greatest weapon, and you can be sure that — is your greatest weapon, and you can be sure that we will deliver on that, — be sure that we will deliver on that, not— be sure that we will deliver on that, notjust now, but too long into the future.— that, notjust now, but too long into the future. thank you so much. thank ou into the future. thank you so much. thank you so _ into the future. thank you so much. thank you so much. _ into the future. thank you so much. thank you so much. prime - into the future. thank you so much. i thank you so much. prime minister... translation: the thank you so much. prime minister... translation:— translation: the dear prime minister, dear _ translation: the dear prime minister, dearjournalists, - translation: the dear prime| minister, dearjournalists, dear participants, all the british, today, together with the prime minister, we are putting the final touches on our negotiations, and this is exactly here on this military base with our ukrainian were undergoing —— our ukrainian warriors undergoing their training. we began today with some defence issues, together with rishi sunak, and we obviously also continue discussing this defence issue in my address to the british parliament, and we are closing this day again with the defence issues. we have a very strong defence package from
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great britain, we have already received some significant number of armoured vehicles, and we have agreed to honour them with longer range missiles and the training of our aviation warriors with regards to the... managing the unmanned vehicles, and i believe that together we will cover this difficult path to our common victory. of course, today, i'm not able to share with you all of the details that we have been talking about and how it is specifically we are going to strengthen ukraine, however, i would like to say that this day has become very fruitful and i am grateful to the prime ministerfor and i am grateful to the prime minister for understanding our needs and for his helpful advice, and for the decisions that are truly helping our ukrainian warriors to become stronger. i'm also grateful to his
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majesty for the opportunity to have a meeting and conversation with him. and i'm grateful to all of the members of the british parliament who today, during my address, clearly showed that great britain will never betray their brave spirit. i'm also grateful to everyone in the united kingdom who was today standing with ukrainian flags in london, and we noticed as we were passing by, thank you for your support. today it is very clear that we are standing together with great britain, together with the prime minister. he signed a declaration of unity, document that truly records principles of our interaction and mutual support. this is truly a new level of our relations. we also emphasised the achieved a level of support, whether
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it's security, sanctions, political and economical cooperation, something that truly strengthened both countries. we also discussed our position on the international plan and my deep gratitude to rishi sunak and all of great britain for your readiness and willingness to work with us in executing the ukrainian peace formula. and also would like to thank all of our ukrainian warriors, every soldier, sergeant, officerand ukrainian warriors, every soldier, sergeant, officer and general. ukrainian warriors, every soldier, sergeant, officerand general. 0ur estate is doing and will be doing to make sure that on the front line, we have everything... ukraine will be among those countries who has everything to defend their people. glory to everyone fighting for ukraine. many thanks to everyone who helped ukraine. again, thank you,
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rishi sunak, thank you to all the people in great britain. thank you for the 350 days of unity. glory to ukraine. . ~ for the 350 days of unity. glory to ukraine. ., ,, , ., for the 350 days of unity. glory to ukraine. ., ,, i. ., ., , , ukraine. thank you, volodymyr zelenskyy. _ ukraine. thank you, volodymyr zelenskyy, thank _ ukraine. thank you, volodymyr zelenskyy, thank you _ ukraine. thank you, volodymyr zelenskyy, thank you for - ukraine. thank you, volodymyr zelenskyy, thank you for the i ukraine. thank you, volodymyr l zelenskyy, thank you for the kind words _ zelenskyy, thank you for the kind words and — zelenskyy, thank you for the kind words. and we have time for a few questions — words. and we have time for a few questions from the media. let's start— questions from the media. let's start with — questions from the media. let's start with itv news. is there someone _ start with itv news. is there someone here?— start with itv news. is there someone here? .. ~ . someone here? hello. mr president, first of all, someone here? hello. mr president, first of all. you _ someone here? hello. mr president, first of all, you have _ someone here? hello. mr president, first of all, you have made _ someone here? hello. mr president, first of all, you have made a - someone here? hello. mr president, first of all, you have made a broad i first of all, you have made a broad and emotional— first of all, you have made a broad and emotional appeal— first of all, you have made a broad and emotional appeal today- first of all, you have made a broad and emotional appeal today for. first of all, you have made a broad and emotional appeal today for for the supports _ and emotional appeal today for for the supports i_ and emotional appeal today for for the supports. ithink— and emotional appeal today for for the supports. i think a _ and emotional appeal today for for the supports. i think a lot- and emotional appeal today for for the supports. i think a lot of- the supports. i think a lot of british— the supports. i think a lot of british people _ the supports. i think a lot of british people want - the supports. i think a lot of british people want to - the supports. i think a lot of british people want to know| the supports. i think a lot of- british people want to know about the specifics _ british people want to know about the specifics. for— british people want to know about the specifics. for example, - british people want to know about the specifics. for example, whenl british people want to know about i the specifics. for example, when do you believe — the specifics. for example, when do you believe this _ the specifics. for example, when do you believe this russian _ the specifics. for example, when do you believe this russian offensive i you believe this russian offensive will happen? _ you believe this russian offensive will happen? how— you believe this russian offensive will happen? how many— you believe this russian offensive will happen? how many fighter. you believe this russian offensive i will happen? how many fighterjets do you _ will happen? how many fighterjets do you need? — will happen? how many fighterjets do you need? when— will happen? how many fighterjets do you need? when do— will happen? how many fighterjets do you need? when do you - will happen? how many fighterjets do you need? when do you need i will happen? how many fighterjets i do you need? when do you need them and what _ do you need? when do you need them and what happens _ do you need? when do you need them and what happens if— do you need? when do you need them and what happens if you _ do you need? when do you need them and what happens if you don't- do you need? when do you need them and what happens if you don't get- and what happens if you don't get them? _ and what happens if you don't get them? and — and what happens if you don't get them? and to _ and what happens if you don't get them? and to you, _ and what happens if you don't get them? and to you, mr— and what happens if you don't get them? and to you, mr prime - and what happens if you don't get- them? and to you, mr prime minister, you seem _ them? and to you, mr prime minister, you seem to— them? and to you, mr prime minister, you seem to be — them? and to you, mr prime minister, you seem to be inching _ them? and to you, mr prime minister, you seem to be inching towards- them? and to you, mr prime minister, you seem to be inching towards a - you seem to be inching towards a position— you seem to be inching towards a position of— you seem to be inching towards a position of being _ you seem to be inching towards a position of being able _ you seem to be inching towards a position of being able to - you seem to be inching towards a position of being able to providei position of being able to provide fighter— position of being able to provide fighterjets _ position of being able to provide fighterjets for _ position of being able to provide fighterjets for the _ position of being able to provide fighterjets for the ukrainians, i position of being able to provide i fighterjets forthe ukrainians, can you offer— fighterjets forthe ukrainians, can you offer absolute _ fighterjets forthe ukrainians, can you offer absolute clarity - fighterjets forthe ukrainians, can you offer absolute clarity here - fighterjets forthe ukrainians, can you offer absolute clarity here andj you offer absolute clarity here and now? _ you offer absolute clarity here and now? will— you offer absolute clarity here and now? will they— you offer absolute clarity here and
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now? will they get _ you offer absolute clarity here and now? will they get them, - you offer absolute clarity here and now? will they get them, and - you offer absolute clarity here and now? will they get them, and if. now? will they get them, and if when? — now? will they get them, and if when? . ~' ,, now? will they get them, and if when? ., ,, i. ., now? will they get them, and if when? . ~' i., ., , ., when? thank you for the question. wh don't when? thank you for the question. why don't l — when? thank you for the question. why don't i start _ when? thank you for the question. why don't i start and _ when? thank you for the question. why don't i start and i _ when? thank you for the question. why don't i start and i will - when? thank you for the question. why don't i start and i will do - why don't i start and i will do that first _ why don't i start and i will do that. first of all, we have been very clear— that. first of all, we have been very clear and we've been clear for a long _ very clear and we've been clear for a long time — very clear and we've been clear for a long time that when it comes to the provision of military assistance to ukraine. — the provision of military assistance to ukraine, nothing is off the table. — to ukraine, nothing is off the table, and that is because we are determined to ensure that the president and his people can be victorious— president and his people can be victorious against russian aggression. and we have backed up that rhetoric with action. last year. — that rhetoric with action. last year, behind the united states, we were the _ year, behind the united states, we were the single largest donor of military— were the single largest donor of military equipment to ukraine and we said that _ military equipment to ukraine and we said that we would match or exceed that amount on the two and half billion pounds again this year. use he came _ billion pounds again this year. use he came to — billion pounds again this year. use he came to the provision of main battle _ he came to the provision of main battle tanks, we where the first g7 nation _ battle tanks, we where the first g7 nation i_ battle tanks, we where the first g7 nation. i announced that weeks ago, something _ nation. i announced that weeks ago, something that the president and i had discussed previously. it was important — had discussed previously. it was important in order to ensure that ukraine _ important in order to ensure that ukraine could make progress on the battlefield, and i think we helped to lead _ battlefield, and i think we helped to lead an international conversation which led to many other countries _ conversation which led to many other countries following us in providing
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battle _ countries following us in providing battle tanks to ukraine. so when it comes— battle tanks to ukraine. so when it comes to _ battle tanks to ukraine. so when it comes to fighter combat aircraft, of course _ comes to fighter combat aircraft, of course they— comes to fighter combat aircraft, of course they are part of the conversation, indeed we have been discussing — conversation, indeed we have been discussing that today and have been previously — discussing that today and have been previously. and that is why we have announced — previously. and that is why we have announced today that we will be training — announced today that we will be training ukrainian airfor us announced today that we will be training ukrainian air for us on nato— training ukrainian air for us on nato standard platforms. because the first step _ nato standard platforms. because the first step in being able to provide advanced — first step in being able to provide advanced aircraft is to have soldiers _ advanced aircraft is to have soldiers or aviators that are capable _ soldiers or aviators that are capable of using them. that is a process— capable of using them. that is a process that takes some time. we started _ process that takes some time. we started that process today, that is because _ started that process today, that is because we are keen to support the president— because we are keen to support the president and his country in delivering a victory, nothing is off the table. — delivering a victory, nothing is off the table, and our leadership on this issue — the table, and our leadership on this issue is something that we all collectively should be proud of, and i collectively should be proud of, and i know— collectively should be proud of, and i know that — collectively should be proud of, and i know that the president is grateful— i know that the president is grateful for them. translation: thank you. _ grateful for them. translation: thank you, thank— grateful for them. translation: thank you, thank you _ grateful for them. translation: thank you, thank you very - grateful for them. translation: thank you, thank you very much. | thank you, thank you very much. thank you, thank you very much. thank you, thank you very much. thank you for your question. with regard to the equipment that we need, of course, there is a lot of equipment we need, and a lot of different equipment. it all depends
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on the situation, depends on the situation on the battlefield, kind of in the military, but also what's happening within the country. you know how the are fighting against the iranian drones. there are hundreds of thousands of them and we are fighting against them with various means, and that includes our ballistic missiles, because this unmanned vehicle, these iranian drones, they hit civilians infrastructure, educational infrastructure, educational infrastructure, hospitals, schools, civilians, because they are trying to threaten ukrainians, they are trying to make them flee, but ukrainians are not going to flee, because they survive. when we talk about this, we do need air defence systems, and we are grateful to everyone who is providing them, and that also, when we have those systems that allow people to go to
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work and work, and once people work, obviously this money, they will not just go for pensions or other social welfare, but also this goes to support our warriors. that is why it is very important that we have everything needed to support people in theirjobs. and when we talked about the battlefield, what are our priorities? of course, armoured vehicles. you know, we know that our enemy has got thousands of units of armoured vehicles, back from the soviet era, and nato armoured vehicles, they are the best, and here they are on a few of them coming you know? when you only have ten nato armoured vehicles against 1000 soviet armoured vehicles, well, what are the chances, you know? we have no way out. we have to stand firm. we need armoured vehicles, we
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need tanks, we need fighterjets, and obviously we have spent a lot of time talking about this together, and you have just heard what the prime minister mentioned, today and tomorrow, we will be meeting with the eu leaders and discussing this issue, and also longer—range missiles, that is our priority, and i am very grateful that britain has finally heard us in that regard, and i do hope that other countries will also hear us when it comes to long—range missiles, because we do need to push back the russian, so people can just live. as for the offensive, what can i say? frankly, we live in a state of war, what can i say here? we cannot be just thinking about the offensive. the offensive has never happened. it's just been a different kind of intensity. so all we need is to let
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us make russians think about ukrainian counteroffensive, 0k? they need to be thinking about this, they need to be thinking about this, they need to be thinking about this, they need to be thinking how they should be leaving our territory. that's all i would like to share with you. thank you stop thank you, mr president. i call on bbc ukraine. she speaks ukrainian applause security, it's understandable. mr; security, it's understandable. my question is to you, mr rishi sunak, you know— question is to you, mr rishi sunak, you know that— question is to you, mr rishi sunak, you know that ukrainian _ question is to you, mr rishi sunak, you know that ukrainian soldiers, l you know that ukrainian soldiers, they are — you know that ukrainian soldiers, they are dying _
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you know that ukrainian soldiers, they are dying every— you know that ukrainian soldiers, they are dying every day. - you know that ukrainian soldiers, they are dying every day. don't i you know that ukrainian soldiers, i they are dying every day. don't you think— they are dying every day. don't you think that _ they are dying every day. don't you think that that _ they are dying every day. don't you think that that decision _ they are dying every day. don't you think that that decision about - think that that decision about warplanes— think that that decision about warplanes is— think that that decision about warplanes is taking _ think that that decision about warplanes is taking too - think that that decision aboutj warplanes is taking too long? think that that decision about - warplanes is taking too long? the other— warplanes is taking too long? the other question _ warplanes is taking too long? the other question is _ warplanes is taking too long? the other question is what _ warplanes is taking too long? the other question is what are - warplanes is taking too long? the other question is what are your i other question is what are your steps _ other question is what are your steps to— other question is what are your steps to clear _ other question is what are your steps to clear the _ other question is what are your steps to clear the reputation i other question is what are your steps to clear the reputation of london — steps to clear the reputation of london as— steps to clear the reputation of london as a _ steps to clear the reputation of london as a city— steps to clear the reputation of london as a city that _ steps to clear the reputation of london as a city that is - steps to clear the reputation of london as a city that is still - london as a city that is still laundering _ london as a city that is still laundering russian- london as a city that is still laundering russian money. j london as a city that is still - laundering russian money. thank london as a city that is still _ laundering russian money. thank you. ithink— laundering russian money. thank you. i think you _ laundering russian money. thank you. i think you heard — laundering russian money. thank you. i think you heard from“ _ laundering russian money. thank you. l think you hear— i think you heard from the president's _ i think you heard from the president's previous - i think you heard from the i president's previous answer i think you heard from the - president's previous answer about the very— president's previous answer about the very immediate need, and that is air defence _ the very immediate need, and that is air defence and long—range missiles. and that's _ air defence and long—range missiles. and that's a — air defence and long—range missiles. and that's a conversation that we have _ and that's a conversation that we have been— and that's a conversation that we have been having most recently about how it _ have been having most recently about how it can _ have been having most recently about how it can we provide air defence to protect— how it can we provide air defence to protect the — how it can we provide air defence to protect the ukrainian population? that has— protect the ukrainian population? that has been the thing we talked about— that has been the thing we talked about most and all of our conversations, which is why we have provided _ conversations, which is why we have provided thousands of surface to air missiles _ provided thousands of surface to air missiles and air defence systems and will continue to do so. more are coming — will continue to do so. more are coming over the next few weeks, and as the _ coming over the next few weeks, and as the president said, probably the most _ as the president said, probably the most crucial capability right here and now — most crucial capability right here and now is— most crucial capability right here and now is the main battle tanks, which _ and now is the main battle tanks, which we —
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and now is the main battle tanks, which we lead on, but also those long-range — which we lead on, but also those long—range missiles. that and all the talking that we have done in the planning _ the talking that we have done in the planning for how we can have decisive — planning for how we can have decisive victory on the battlefield and make — decisive victory on the battlefield and make progress, it requires long—range missiles which currently the range _ long—range missiles which currently the range is not fair, and that is a conversation _ the range is not fair, and that is a conversation we have been having and we hope _ conversation we have been having and we hope that britain can lead. but when _ we hope that britain can lead. but when it— we hope that britain can lead. but when it comes to protecting soldiers. _ when it comes to protecting soldiers, we feel very acutely the tragedy— soldiers, we feel very acutely the tragedy and the hardship that your country— tragedy and the hardship that your country men are going through. we both have _ country men are going through. we both have had the privilege of meeting — both have had the privilege of meeting some of them today i've met some _ meeting some of them today i've met some in— meeting some of them today i've met some in the _ meeting some of them today i've met some in the past, their bravery is inspiring — some in the past, their bravery is inspiring. it's awe—inspiring to see you as _ inspiring. it's awe—inspiring to see you as the — inspiring. it's awe—inspiring to see you as the ordinary citizens, young men _ you as the ordinary citizens, young men and _ you as the ordinary citizens, young men and women who are fighting to defend _ men and women who are fighting to defend their country and being trained — defend their country and being trained to do so here, and they go not with— trained to do so here, and they go not withjust our wishes not with just our wishes and training. _ not with just our wishes and training, but they go with our full support with all the equipment that we can— support with all the equipment that we can continue to provide them will continue _ we can continue to provide them will continue to— we can continue to provide them will continue to do so. rest assured, we are here _ continue to do so. rest assured, we are here with— continue to do so. rest assured, we are here with you, with your people and will— are here with you, with your people and will continue to provide you
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with whatever we can to ensure your safety _ with whatever we can to ensure your safety and _ with whatever we can to ensure your safety and indeed your success. with regard _ safety and indeed your success. with regard to _ safety and indeed your success. with regard to sanctions, as he saw at the beginning of this conflict, used to be _ the beginning of this conflict, used to be the _ the beginning of this conflict, used to be the finance minister, and we put in _ to be the finance minister, and we put in place. — to be the finance minister, and we put in place, which the president talked _ put in place, which the president talked about earlier today, probably the most _ talked about earlier today, probably the most extensive and forward leaning — the most extensive and forward leaning sanctions package of any country— leaning sanctions package of any country at the beginning of this conflict — country at the beginning of this conflict to demonstrate very clearly that russia's aggression was unacceptable and we would punish them _ unacceptable and we would punish them in _ unacceptable and we would punish them in every which way we could. we have announced for the sanctions today— have announced for the sanctions today but — have announced for the sanctions today but continually, when it comes today but continually, when it comes to sanctions, we have, ithink, lead, _ to sanctions, we have, ithink, lead. and _ to sanctions, we have, ithink, lead, and you will remember the conversations we had on things like swift. _ conversations we had on things like swift, banks right at the beginning of this— swift, banks right at the beginning of this conflict, it was britain that— of this conflict, it was britain that led _ of this conflict, it was britain that led the way in pushing for strict — that led the way in pushing for strict sanctions, and as we've announced _ strict sanctions, and as we've announced for the today, wherever we can continue _ announced for the today, wherever we can continue to tighten them and do more, _ can continue to tighten them and do more. we _ can continue to tighten them and do more, we will look to do so as we have done — more, we will look to do so as we have done today. next, let's go to sky news, please.—
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have done today. next, let's go to sky news, please. thank you, prime minister can — sky news, please. thank you, prime minister can affect _ sky news, please. thank you, prime minister can affect could _ sky news, please. thank you, prime minister can affect could ask - sky news, please. thank you, prime minister can affect could ask you - minister can affect could ask you first of all, there does seem to be a lag between ukraine asking for more sophisticated weaponry and it eventually being given. there are some more advanced artillery. it was eventually sent, they've asked for tanks and they will be sent eventually. they now want fighter jets and we are training their pilots, but we are not sending the jets. your predecessor, one of your predecessors close friend of president zelensky has wondered why we are not doing mark, why not send my so they can finish off the job now. what is holding the west back? why is there that lag? and mr president, good to see you again. if i can ask about fighterjets, how urgently do you need them? and what does it mean for your country if you don't get them? i does it mean for your country if you don't get them?— don't get them? i will take that first question. _ don't get them? i will take that first question. again, _ don't get them? i will take that first question. again, the - don't get them? i will take that | first question. again, the notion don't get them? i will take that. first question. again, the notion of the question, we have continually led to. _ the question, we have continually led to. in— the question, we have continually led to, in uk with a provision of equipment— led to, in uk with a provision of
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equipment to ukraine and whether it was right— equipment to ukraine and whether it was right at the beginning with anti-tank— was right at the beginning with anti—tank missiles, weather, as europe — anti—tank missiles, weather, as europe and _ anti—tank missiles, weather, as europe and the president of the importance of armoured vehicles, we have sent _ importance of armoured vehicles, we have sent hundreds, whether it is artillery— have sent hundreds, whether it is artillery guns, again, and the next few weeks. — artillery guns, again, and the next few weeks, and a set of batteries of artillery— few weeks, and a set of batteries of artillery guns will arrive. tanks we have _ artillery guns will arrive. tanks we have already talked about and are training _ have already talked about and are training combat aircraft for the first time _ training combat aircraft for the first time. indeed, something that we should — first time. indeed, something that we should have been doing a long time ago — we should have been doing a long time ago because we have a long—standing training relationship with ukraine that predates the war. that something as we look forward will want _ that something as we look forward will want to continue to do more of that as _ will want to continue to do more of that as we — will want to continue to do more of that as we want to make sure that the ukrainian armed forces are trained — the ukrainian armed forces are trained on _ the ukrainian armed forces are trained on nato standard equipment and greater operability between ukraine — and greater operability between ukraine and nato. we have been on the forward — ukraine and nato. we have been on the forward leaning adjuvant and providing — the forward leaning adjuvant and providing things as quickly as we can~ _ providing things as quickly as we can~ the — providing things as quickly as we can. the challenge of tanks are going _ can. the challenge of tanks are going to — can. the challenge of tanks are going to be on the battlefield as i said in_ going to be on the battlefield as i said in a — going to be on the battlefield as i said in a matter of weeks. i mean, you've _ said in a matter of weeks. i mean, you've seen — said in a matter of weeks. i mean, you've seen the ukrainian soldiers being _ you've seen the ukrainian soldiers being trained as fast as we can and
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providing _ being trained as fast as we can and providing them as fast as we can and we know— providing them as fast as we can and we know that they will make a difference and we think the president would tell you, we have been _ president would tell you, we have been having conversations for a few months _ been having conversations for a few months that i've had thisjob, and relatively— months that i've had thisjob, and relatively rapidly after we'd discussed what is necessary, ukraine sees that— discussed what is necessary, ukraine sees that we do respond and we galvanise — sees that we do respond and we galvanise others to respond. that's what we _ galvanise others to respond. that's what we have done and what we will continue _ what we have done and what we will continue to — what we have done and what we will continue to do.— what we have done and what we willl continue to do._ thank continue to do. translation: thank ou ve continue to do. translation: thank you very much- _ continue to do. translation: thank you very much- i— continue to do. translation: thank you very much. i would _ continue to do. translation: thank you very much. i would like _ continue to do. translation: thank you very much. i would like to - continue to do. translation: thank you very much. i would like to be - you very much. i would like to be honest with you here. in the history of this war, there are several pages, and one of those pages, in fact even sections in this war have been very special section for our worries and also great britain providing equipments, here we are talking about... our people had to
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rise up and fight with what they had you know? we are not doing any self—pity here, 0k? you know? we are not doing any self—pity here, ok? we were grateful for whatever we were getting. and we turned another page. we turned into fury, because russians were killing and murdering people. they were raping people. and we were ready to use any kind of weapons just to destroy them. we turned another page. artillery. we needed artillery. we needed to work in a different direction, and this is exactly where we received some help and support for example, in certain places, a visa great britain helped us a lot, but when it comes to that,
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it was a lot of help from the us and we are grateful for them for this page and history of the war, i think it is very important to understand that russia has no pity for their own people, theyjust keep on throwing their people into the battlefield. we have pity and we protect our people. we would not throw them just onto the battlefield. we needed to prepare them. in fact kind of marked a different stage in the war, and now we have come to this stagnation phase. you'vejust we have come to this stagnation phase. you've just asked we have come to this stagnation phase. you'vejust asked me we have come to this stagnation phase. you've just asked me what would happen if we don't get this fighterjet or longer—range fighter jet or longer—range missiles, or we fighterjet or longer—range missiles, or we don't have enough ammunition, everything obviously is running out and coming out of maintenance. if you don't have the artillery, you know, there will be stagnation. these people will be
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coming and living in our territory, and this will pose greater risks to all of the world because they've just now captured a nuclear station, and theyjust live there, you know? and this kind of risk will be everywhere because they are terrorists. and so without the weapons that we are discussing now and the weapons that we just discussed with rishi sunak earlier today and how britain is going to help us, you know, all of this is very important. without this, there will be stagnation, which will not bring anything good.— bring anything good. thank you. next,... that _ bring anything good. thank you. next,... that evening, - bring anything good. thank you. next,... that evening, mr - bring anything good. thank you. next,... that evening, mr per i next,... that evening, mr per minister- _ next,... that evening, mr per minister. she _ next,... that evening, mr per minister. she speaks - next,... that evening, mr per l minister. she speaks ukrainian transition wreck i will come to see you after the press conference because i would like to get a hug as well. translation: pond because i would like to get a hug as well. translation:— well. translation: and you have
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already summarised _ well. translation: and you have already summarised your - well. translation: and you have already summarised your day - well. translation: and you have i already summarised your day today, and yet i am very interested in your personal impressions, you know? . obviously you've hardly spent even a handful of days outside of ukraine, you know, in a different country just unburied the peaceful sky. so what are your personal impressions? what threatens me back at home? translation: you what threatens me back at home? translation:— what threatens me back at home? translation: ., ~ ., , , , , translation: you know, yes, this is m second translation: you know, yes, this is my second visit _ translation: you know, yes, this is my second visit outside _ translation: you know, yes, this is my second visit outside of _ translation: you know, yes, this is my second visit outside of ukraine - my second visit outside of ukraine after the beginning of the russian invasion. you know what's? i had to do two important things. first of all, i had to express our deep gratitude, deep gratitude to all the ukrainian people, to the people of great britain, to the government of great britain, to the government of great britain, to everyone who had been helping us to keep our lands,
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to make sure that we don't lose it, because this is our land which is dear to us. i think it's amazing that great britain has been so active in this fight. truly, i am grateful, we should not be forgetting anything we ponder all of these months, at any point, we could have lost our independence, and yet, and yet all of that time, we haven't had battalions of friends and allies, but we had a strong unitive friends, partners, allies and great britain has stood as our ally and friend here. ialso britain has stood as our ally and friend here. i also would like to say that what ever you can do, you know, we should be doing, and this is what we are trying to do. we're trying to remember who has been with us from the very first day of the
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war. today at six — more than 11,000 people are now confirmed dead jewel. in south—eastern turkey, a visit by president erdogan, who defended his government's response to the disaster. we report from the epicentre. the rescuers say they will come back tomorrow and the next day. they will return to sites like this for as long as it takes to return loved ones to their relatives. we'll have more from anna foster, our correspondent
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in maras, and we'll have the latest on the aid efforts

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