tv Breakfast BBC News February 22, 2023 6:00am-9:00am GMT
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good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. our headlines today. intensive talks begin today to try and end the nurses�* strike, as the government recommends below inflation pay increases for millions of public sector workers in england next year. morrisons becomes the latest supermarket to limit the amount of fruit and veg you can buy because of a shortage of fresh produce. shamima begum — who fled london as a schoolgirl tojoin islamic state — finds out today if she's won her appeal against being stripped of her british citizenship in sport, how ruthless real madrid have liverpool
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reeling, letting in five goals at anfield for the first time in their history in the champions league. the swimming pools struggling to stay afloat — an urgent plea from grassroots sports bodies for more government help to pay the energy bills. something needs to happen in some capacity, because if it's not funding, well then, how are these places going to survive? we've actually got some rain around this morning quite widely. things were brighten up in the north and west later. it will feel chillier. good morning. it's wednesday, 22nd february. the health secretary, stephen barclay, is to meet representatives of the royal college of nursing this morning, after the union suspended a strike planned for next week in england. following months of disputes, the two sides have said they would begin intensive talks on pay, terms
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and conditions, and reforms. discussions about public sector pay for the next financial year are also underway. our health correspondent sophie hutchinson reports. no ifs, no buts, no nhs cuts! after a winter of strikes, finally, a glimmer of hope. nurses who've carried out six individual walk—outs, and who were planning to increase the pressure with the biggest, longest strike so far in england, have agreed to pause the action. now, instead of striking, today, leaders from the royal college of nursing will meet for intensive talks with ministers and officials. i've always said i wouldn't negotiate in public. the prime minister has now got the table prepared. we will be there and we will enter those negotiations in good faith as soon as they start. and we will make sure that no stone is left unturned, to make sure that that fair pay deal is reached as quickly as possible,
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so that we can bring a conclusion to these strikes. how successful will they be? initially, nurses had asked for a pay increase of 5% above inflation. since then, their union, the rcn, has said it would meet the government halfway. on the other side, ministers had insisted they would not renegotiate this year's pay deal. but a source close to the negotiations has said they may consider backdating a deal. pressure on the government has been ramping up, with ever bigger strikes planned, and junior doctors in england now deciding tojoin the picket lines. we need to see further progress made. there are, of course, other unions planning to take action, and we want to see industrial action across the nhs resolved, in order for the nhs to focus on the things that it wants to for patients. the desire to reach an agreement and avert more pain is perhaps understandable. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. meanwhile, teachers in parts
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of england are going ahead with planned strikes next week, despite a similar offer from the government to hold talks about pay. the national education union has rejected an invitation from education secretary gillian keegan to start formal pay talks in return for calling off industrial action. we sincerely regret the disruption of children's education that will take place, and the disruption of parents' working lives and their home lives. but we hope that parents will understand that we are taking this action with an aim in mind of stopping the problems of teacher recruitment and retention, which are growing because of workload, but also because of the pay situation in our schools. that's why we're taking this action. we believe — we know — there is disruption to children's education every day. it comes as attention is now turning to pay for the next financial year. millions of public sector workers in england will be offered
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a 3.5% pay increase under the proposals. but the latest figures show inflation was 10.1% injanuary, something rishi sunak pledged to halve this year. let's speak now to our political correspondent, nick eardley. we are already talking about next year. this is going to be crucial in any talks, isn't it?— any talks, isn't it? absolutely, it reall is. any talks, isn't it? absolutely, it really is- the _ any talks, isn't it? absolutely, it really is. the government - any talks, isn't it? absolutely, it really is. the government has i any talks, isn't it? absolutely, it. really is. the government has come up really is. the government has come up with that 3.5% figure that it thinks is fairfor up with that 3.5% figure that it thinks is fair for next year. but there is a process it has gone through. that figure could well go up. when i speak to people in the treasury about what they think would be a maximum level, the figure that is talked about is 5%, because ministers think that over that things would make inflation was, but below that, or at that level, it is
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probablyjust below that, or at that level, it is probably just about manageable. below that, or at that level, it is probablyjust about manageable. next year's pay deal will really matter. what is really significant is that the government is now prepared to talk about this year's pay deal as well, how many times have we sat here in the morning on breakfast and said this process is completely stock? the unions want to talk about this year's pay deal. the government is refusing. that is not the case now. it is clear to me the government is prepared to talk about this year's pay deal. different options on the table about how to maybe give a one—off payment or maybe give a one—off payment or maybe to backdate pay a bid to make sure the public sector workers are getting a bit more. —— a base. we have seen that some unions are really open to that idea. this is not a silver bullet. it does not mean all the strikes will be called off. with the education unions we can see there is still the reluctance to call it off while this
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is negotiated. it is not guaranteed that what is discussed in the negotiations will be enough. but after weeks and months of it not been clear how the way through would been clear how the way through would be found, i think there is a glimmer now and a chance there could be a way out of this.— now and a chance there could be a way out of this. thank you very much indeed. supermarkets are introducing restrictions on the amount of certain fruits and vegetables that customers can buy. you might have noticed some empty shelves, after extreme weather caused supply issues across the uk. the shortages are only expected to last a few weeks. but in the meantime, shoppers may face limits on the number of cucumbers, peppers and tomatoes that they can take home. our business correspondent marc ashdown has more. if you've been to do your weekly shop in the past few days, you might have noticed a few gaps. social media has been awash with pictures from frustrated shoppers of empty shelves in the fresh fruit and veg aisle. now, some of the big supermarkets are taking steps to protect supplies.
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in asda, you can now only buy three each of tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, lettuce, salad bags, broccoli, cauliflower and raspberries. and in morrisons, from today, shoppers will be limited to two each of tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce and peppers. the supermarkets say extreme weather in european countries where they source their produce has impacted supply chains. they say the measures are to make sure all customers can still get hold of fruit and veg. we're thinking about some disruption maybe for the next fortnight or so, just a little bit less availability than you'd normally see in your supermarkets. but supermarkets are great at sorting through these challenges. we saw that during the pandemic. they'll be finding different suppliers to to get more produce onto the shelves. but also, after sort of — when we get into march and beyond, then we get a lot more of our product here in the uk, which makes it much easier. when there were food and fuel supply issues last year, the government's own office for budget responsibility said brexit had made things worse than in other countries.
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this time, some retail analysts say the problems are down to high energy costs, and extreme hot and cold weather affecting crops across europe. supermarkets say the imminent start of the uk growing season will help them maintain supplies in the spring. but the national farmers' union says the industry needs more support. the more we face shortages, the more it will drive food inflation. we've got to come up with a way of making sure we can keep producing what the nation needs. we've got 70 million people in this country. it's an island nation. food security needs to be taken really seriously. so far, none of the other major supermarkets have introduced limits. asda and morrisons say the temporary measures should only need to be in place for a matter of weeks. mark ashdown, bbc news. more on that throughout the morning. shamima begum, who left britain tojoin the islamic state group, is set to find out whether she has
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won her appeal against being stripped of her british citizenship. shamima begum left the uk in february 2015 to join the islamic state group in syria. four years later, after she was found alive at a refugee camp, the then—home secretary sajid javid removed her british citizenship. our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford reports. this was shamima begum in february 2015, eight years ago, leaving gatwick airport with two school friends to go and join the islamic state group in syria. a friend who'd already gone there had persuaded them tojoin her. the three of them travelled through a bus station in turkey and were smuggled across the border by a man who, it later turned out, was providing information to canadian intelligence. she spent the next four years in islamic state territory, emerging after the caliphate collapsed, but she immediately had her british citizenship removed by sajid javid, who was then the home secretary. she's been in the camps in northern syria ever since.
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at least with prison sentences you know that there will be an end. but here, you don't know if there's going to be an end. she will hear today if her challenge of sajid javid's decision is successful. her lawyers have argued that, rather than being stripped of her citizenship, she should have been treated as a victim of trafficking for sexual purposes, because she was married to an adult fighter within weeks of arriving in syria. and richard barrett, who specialised in counter—terrorism at both mi6 and the united nations, believes leaving women such as shamima begum in the camps creates more risk, not less. at least if she were in london, there would be procedures for monitoring her. the local community would be aware of her. and there also might be ways to ensure that she wasn't still radical, trying to bring her back into society. there's no such programme available in the camps in north—east syria. what do you think you'll be doing in seven years' time from now? still be in this camp!
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really? yeah. you don't think you'll be home? nope~ _ not at all? nope. why not? because isis was the worst thing of the 21st century, and i was a part of it. and now i have to face the consequences of my actions. and this camp is the consequences of my actions. in court, lawyers for the government argued that shamima begum was still a risk to national security, with some of the secret evidence heard behind closed doors. and today, she will hear whether the judge agreed. daniel sandford, bbc news. president biden will finish his trip to poland today, by holding talks with the leaders of countries along nato's eastern european border, from estonia to bulgaria. the meeting with the group — which is known as as the bucharest nine — will concentrate on regional defence and the supply of more aid to ukraine.
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snp leadership contender kate forbes has insisted that her campaign is still on track, despite losing the backing of several government ministers over her opposition to gay marriage. key backers of the finance secretary have withdrawn their support, after she said she would have voted against same—sex unions if she'd have been at holyrood when the legislation was passed. our scotland political correspondent andrew kerr reports. kate forbes has had a roller—coaster campaign since she made her views on equal marriage clear. i am a practising christian. i practice the teachings of most mainstream religions, whether that's islam, judaism, christianity, that marriage is between a man and a woman. but that's what i practice. as a servant of democracy, in a country where this is law, i would defend to the hilt your right, and anybody else's right, to live and to love without harassment or fear.
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views on equal marriage led some snp politicians, who'd initially backed her, to withdraw support, including gillian martin, claire haughey and tom arthur. my views are very clear on the matter. i think equal marriage is one of the great achievements of the scottish parliament and it is very important for me that any candidate for first minister is fully behind that. but other backers are standing strong. she's endeavoured to be very honest, and i think we need to be able - to make that distinction - between rational fact and reason in government, and personal views. is this a fair campaign or is she being scapegoated for some of her views? no, i think you've asked me about my views. you were at my launch yesterday. you asked me about my views on these matters. track record in these matters. it's for each candidate to speak about what their views are. and it's important. you're going for the top job in the country. people want to know what you support, how you will defend their rights, whether you will defend their rights. this has become an intensely fierce snp contest to replace nicola sturgeon. andrew kerr, bbc news holyrood.
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at least one person has died in a powerful tropical storm that is battering the east coast of madagascar. cyclone freddy has caused schools and transport routes to close on the island, with winds recorded higher than 120 kilometres per hour. this comes just weeks after another tropical storm killed 33 people and left thousands without shelter. some devastating pictures there. it is quarter past six. nothing quite so dramatic at home. matt has got the weather. good morning. the weather. good morninu. ., the weather. goodmornina. ., ~ ., the weather. good morninu. ., ~ ., ., good morning. good morning. what a different sort— good morning. good morning. what a different sort of— good morning. good morning. what a different sort of day _ good morning. good morning. what a different sort of day it _ good morning. good morning. what a different sort of day it is _ good morning. good morning. what a different sort of day it is today. - different sort of day it is today. we start off with some rain quite widely. we have not seen that quite widespread for a while. misty and murky over the hills. things will brighten up later. with it comes a chillier feel.
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brighten up later. with it comes a chillierfeel. not particularly chilly out there right now. temperatures above where they should be. cooler in parts of western scotland and northern ireland. outbreaks of rain quite widely. some snow falling over the scottish hills. some heavier bursts of rain over central and eastern england, where there has barely any rainfall this month so far. turning brighter both with shiao reconditioned through wales and the south—west. gradually brightening up parts of central, northern and western england. reasoning that will hold on to cloud all day long. a rather grey day. forthe to cloud all day long. a rather grey day. for the rain and drizzle at times. winds in a north—westerly direction. for many, temperatures are not rising through the day. back down to values you normally expect to see at this stage in february. a cool end to the day. tonight, wintry showers over the tops of the hills pushing south are england and wales.
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for wales, the midlands, northwood, clearing skies later means it will be a colder night. some frost, some ice. whilst we will see some cloud over the next few days, with some rain topping and tailing the country, many places will be dry. the outlook for the weekend is dry too. that sounds very good. thank you. for hundreds of years, church bells have rung out to proclaim special events, as well as to call people to worship. new recruits to bell ringing are in decline, but with just over ten weeks to go until the coronation of king charles, a campaign is underway to fill the vacancies. jo black has been speaking to those who'll be responsible for showing new—comers the ropes. bells ring the unmistakable sound of church bells has been part of the soundscape across towns and cities for centuries. they help us celebrate, commemorate, and are a weekly call to worship. now, with just over ten weeks to go
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until the coronation, there is a shortage of bell ringers who will ring for the king. and so the race is on to find and train people up. all yours. that hand stroke, stretch and pull through. st lawrence's in ipswich, a deconsecrated church, is now a community hub. we're told the bells here are the oldest entire ring of five bells in the country, dating back to the 14005. and the weekly ringing session held here on a wednesday lunchtime, is today doubling up as a training exercise for some who have come to answer this particular coronation call. we want to make sure that there are ringers for every church so that we can all ring out for ring for the king, for the coronation. but some of our beginners here today learnt because of the queen'sjubilee, and they wanted to be able to ring for that. and then, a lot of them rang when the queen died. so we've had this constant
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teaching of beginners right the way through since that original push. another day, another church, and another practice session. as the day starts to fade over st clement's, the group is back on the ropes again. the team here vary in age, beliefs, backgrounds and experience. get the bell rising, so, - a longer pull at both strokes. freya, an a—level student, isjust i7, and has only been ringing since november. fiona, an occupational therapist, is 55, and even though she is new to this hobby, her late grandfather was an established bell ringer for many years. so, when we ring rounds in a minute, you can control that... and 61—year—old grandfather yanis is a buddhist and used to bell ring in the early 905. now, after a 30 year absence, he's back in a ringing chamber. i saw some advert about needing more bell ringers to ensure
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that all the churches were ringing for the king's coronation. and because he's such a great environmentalist, and i'm an environmentalist, too, i thought i'd come back and ring for the coronation. i was surprised. i thought i'd have to start right from the very beginning again. but the basic control of the bell, very basic control of the bell, was a bit like riding a bike. but i'm still very much focusing onjust trying to fully control that bell. i think my grandfather would be extremely proud. and to be ringing for the coronation, he would be dead chuffed. at the moment i'm excited about it. i can't imagine that i'm going to be quite ready. but i think i will — i hope i will. but yeah, is a once in a lifetime opportunity, isn't it, really? it'll be really amazing, enjoyable. something to remember. i'd encourage younger people to really get involved with it, because it is really
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enjoyable and you make lots of friends very quickly. but, with a shortage of ringers and teachers, is bell ringing seen, perhaps unfairly, as a bit old fashioned? no, it's super cool. it's absolutely super cool. and no one would ever believe that it wasn't. there is still enough time to learn before coronation day. and these new members know they will be part of something historic, and they hope to keep on ringing for many more years to come. jo black, bbc news in ipswich. super cool. fancy giving it a go? good for your arm strength. cheaper than a gym membership. more fun. sounds better. after some practice. later in the programme, jo will be with the bell ringers at st paul's church in birmingham.
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let's have a look at today's papers. and several front pages focus on the war in ukraine. the times reports that russia's president vladimir putin is ready to abandon its arms control treaty with the us. "it's ok to be scared, but we fight" — that's the mirror's headline, as it carries an image of two women standing between burnt—out tanks in kyiv. the telegraph leads with the latest on public sector strikes, but its main image features the princess of wales attempting to flip a pancake during a visit to a nursing home in berkshire. that was like all of us last night. first pancake, never any good. hers didn't look great, to be honest. and one of the most read stories on the bbc news website this morning features an interview with the pilot of a british fighterjet, which crashed off a royal navy aircraft carrier. he tells of his relief after managing to eject.
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what a dramatic story that is. inside the papers, i'd really like to hearfrom you inside the papers, i'd really like to hear from you this inside the papers, i'd really like to hearfrom you this morning if you have been affected by this shortage of fruit and vegetables at some of the supermarkets. some of them said to be rationing fruit and veg in some places. asda and morrisons rationing certain fruit and veg because of a shortage of supply. rationing is a really strong word, isn't it? whether it is rationing yet, i don't know. we are told, don't panic buy, it will be over in a couple of weeks. if you are passing your supermarket, you casually think i will pick up the last couple of cucumbers and pepper. we will speak to ben later about the supply and what is happening. let us know what the supply is where you are. in the times today, and lots of the papers, they have a picture of michael gove dancing in a nightclub in aberdeen. i'm not sure about
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this. simon mills has written a piece about the rules for dancing over 50. piece about the rules for dancing over50. i piece about the rules for dancing over 50. i think there are no rules. i think you just dance. dance! just dance. dance like nobody is watching. michael gove was grooving to donna summer, ifeel the love. the times of dance songs to dad dance to. are you ready? number one on the dad dancing chart, number one, chubby checker, the twist. you try and stay sat down when that is playing. and you try to dance to it and now do your back in when you are over 50! david bowie, suffragette city is number two. the pretenders, don't get me wrong. numberfour, the rolling stones, get off my cloud. dire straits are in there, of course. walk of life. that is a classic. five, keep on moving. dario
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g, sunshine. they must be to tune, for those people who have never been to a beta. —— ibiza. this is the latest fashion. it's all about sam smith. is it london fashion week? there is a fashion we gone somewhere. that isjust an a fashion we gone somewhere. that is just an average night in london. i'd definitely go for the one of the right. that's me. i'd go for the one that completely covers my face! i do that if i was dad dancing. 25 minutes past six. we've all found ourselves a bit lost on the way home before. but nothing quite like a homing—pigeon called bob, who took a wrong turn and ended up 4000—miles away from his loft. bob went missing during a race from the channel isles to tyneside last year, and turned up weeks later in the united states. now, his travels have been made into an illustrated book. andrew hartley has more.
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howya, bob. yourfriends are here to see you again. he just might be the most famous racing pigeon in the world. seven months on from his detour across the atlantic, bob's back home, blissfully unaware that his adventure has been immortalized in print. well, the illustrations just speak for themselves. they just jump out at you. i think it's so easy flowing right the way through the book. it tells the story from start to finish. and i think the kids will look at it like, and we've to keep the story as true as it comes. to me, it brings the story to life again. it couldn't have been any better, in my opinion. the author and illustrator is an old pal from the north—east, now living in spain. i'm really, really excited about it. the buzz and the hype so far has been lovely. everybody i know is calling and sending messages. the pictures tell their own story, but the words just cement it.
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so i needed something pretty — pretty picture to go along with pretty words, basically. and what a story. bob's epic trip started in guernsey in the channel islands. his 400 mile race back to winlaton was expected to take no more than ten hours. instead, he took a wrong turn, probably hitching a ride on a ship, and ended up 4000 miles away in the small town of monroeville, alabama. so what next for bob — a movie or tv series? we'd love to see something for the children, a little series or something, or a little movie. obviously, if the interest�*s there. ijust wish the pigeon could talk. the book's said to be flying off the shelves, with two more adventures already drawn and written. as for bob, well, his racing days are over. instead, alan has very different plans for him. he's done his bit. he's now going to have a good life.
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as it stands now, he's going to just breed. he's in your mind all the time. if anything happened to him, i don't know what i'd feel like. a fitting new life for a bird who's clocked up more than his fair share ofair miles. andrew hartley, bbc news. iamso i am so happy that bob and alan are reunited. bob might have a bit of a taste for it. it might go to his head. i think hejust it. it might go to his head. i think he just needs to stay at home now. next step, australia. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london, i'mjim wheble. met police counter—terror officers are investigating threatening letters sent to an activist and tv presenter. the letters claim to come from a banned neo—nazi group and were sent to india willoughby, who is transgender,
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and dr shola mos—shogbamimu the met said they contained "vile language and threats". no arrests have yet been made. katie price has said she is "shocked and upset" after a police misconduct hearing was told that eight met police officers were part of a whatsapp group which made offensive remarks about her son, harvey. six of the eight officers concerned have now resigned. the covid pandemic was the main reason for bus service cuts across hertfordshire, according to the county council. data from the department for transport shows the county has had a 56% reduction in its bus services since 2017, the highest in england. friday marks one year since the russian invasion of ukraine and shortly after that of course hundreds of londoners opened their doors to refugees fleeing the conflict. celia and her husband steve from leyton were one such to family to help out.
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they took in anastasia's family who they had met before on a visit to ukraine in 2005. we hadn't met anastasia's partner borsan, and suddenly, they're here, and nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow. they really help us with everything. so, with the school, celia helped me with some stuff with the council. i will never forget about this. let's take a look at the tubes now. there's a good service service on the tubes this morning, although the district line is part suspended between turnham green and richmond, and on the london overground there is a part suspension. now onto the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello there, good morning. it's been a very dry month so far across the capital. mild and springlike too over the last few days but changes are afoot. there is some wet weather in the forecast to come over the next couple of days, and there will also be a drop in temperature before high pressure
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builds back in as we head through the weekend. for this morning, a frost free start to the day. there is some cloud, some outbreaks of mostly light, patchy rain and drizzle. on and off throughout the day but it won't be raining all the time. there will be lots of long dry spells about as well and the wind turns a bit more north—westerly. temperatures on a par with yesterday, could be nine to 10 degrees celsius for most of us. so for most of us, cooler feeling air digging in behind that cold front, maybe some clear spells for a time it will be a chilly start to the day on thursday. but again with some outbreaks of rain and plenty of cloud. that's all set to clear away to leave us with some sunshine as we go through thursday afternoon but also a rather chilly northerly wind. again, perhaps a passing shower on friday. that's it from me, there's a nice story on our facebook page about nine—year—old henry newman from east london who's had his first book published. but for now back tojon and sally.
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hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. coming up on breakfast this morning. we'll bejoined by dr malcolm russell from the uk international search and rescue team, who has recently returned from turkey after helping the victims of the catastrophic earthquakes. the average person uses more than 123 million words in their lifetime but what if you could only say 140 words each day? that's the subject of a new play starring aidan turner and jenna coleman. they'll be here to tell us more at 8.50. the animation studio aardman, best known for wallace and gromit, has worked with save the children to create a film about refugee families fleeing the conflict in ukraine. we'll speak the charity's ambassadors dom joly and natasha kaplinsky at 0905.
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asda and morrisons have introduced restrictions on the amount of fruit and vegetables customers can buy, after a shortage in some products including salad, peppers and tomatoes. ben is at a wholesale market in london for us and can explain what's behind the supply issues. we thought we would get an idea of where everything is coming from. good morning, how are the supplies there? , ., , , ., there? there is absolutely no shortaae there? there is absolutely no shortage here. _ there? there is absolutely no shortage here. we _ there? there is absolutely no shortage here. we are - there? there is absolutely no shortage here. we are here l there? there is absolutely no i shortage here. we are here near heathrow airport, the project gets distributed right across the uk. we have got cucumbers, aubergines, these are from spain, fresh tomatoes, boxes and boxes from morocco, free and sweet peppers and entities. people will have seen on
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social media pictures of empty shelves. shortages in some places are so bad that asda and morrisons have limited the number of items that people can buy, maybe two or three per customer. at this time of year we import most of our fresh produce from abroad, places like spain and morocco when the weather has been so bad it is hit the hardest. as a result of those poor harvests, it means there you might think we grow a lot of this stuff in the uk but at this time of year we need to do that in green hymns and folk farmers the high energy costs mean it is not viable to do that. —— you need to do that in greenhouses. if we want to ensure good supplies, the national farmers' union say we need to import less and support
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local growers. all this at a time when food prices are rising at the fastest rate record, food prices rising more than 16%. let's find out what the knock—on effect is. paul has been here working through most of the night for a good many years. what is happening to the wholesale price of a box of tomatoes? more than double- _ price of a box of tomatoes? more than double. it _ price of a box of tomatoes? more than double. it is _ price of a box of tomatoes? more than double. it is always - than double. it is always fluctuating. we are willing to pay for this_ fluctuating. we are willing to pay for this so— fluctuating. we are willing to pay for this so we still get the supplies, but it is short supply, everything at a premium. people watchin: everything at a premium. people watching at— everything at a premium. people watching at home _ everything at a premium. people watching at home might - everything at a premium. people watching at home might think i everything at a premium. people. watching at home might think that everything at a premium. people i watching at home might think that i go to make small local independent grocery store and there is stuff there but it is more expensive, why have they got it at the big supermarket shelves are empty? supermarkets are genuinely ——
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generally— supermarkets are genuinely —— generally tied into a purchasing programme which pays for set about over a _ programme which pays for set about overa certain time, programme which pays for set about over a certain time, which keeps stable _ over a certain time, which keeps stable prices. the gamble is the growing — stable prices. the gamble is the growing conditions, if crops fluctuate, which they will, that affects — fluctuate, which they will, that affects prices dramatically. the supermarkets have done everything they can _ supermarkets have done everything they can to keep prices regulated and stable but your local independent chapel come to the wholesale market and pay the wholesale market and pay the wholesale price. often there will be more _ wholesale price. often there will be more expensive than the supermarket, sometimes _ more expensive than the supermarket, sometimes it is less, it depends on the time _ sometimes it is less, it depends on the time of— sometimes it is less, it depends on the time of the season. at the moment— the time of the season. at the moment they will be paying more than the supermarkets but they were ten realty _ the supermarkets but they were ten really have — the supermarkets but they were ten really have it. —— they will generally— really have it. —— they will generally have it. really have it. -- they will generally have it.- really have it. -- they will generally have it. when we talk about shortages, _ generally have it. when we talk about shortages, the _ generally have it. when we talk about shortages, the importantj generally have it. when we talk i about shortages, the important point to emphasise is, by what you need, get what you would normally get, don't go out and buy more than you would need an stock app. partly
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because it is good to make the shortages worse and partly because it will go off before you can use it and that it is no good to anyone. that will have the weather later and he will explain how the weather in morocco and spain in this country to be reliable imports, how it is looking for the next few weeks and whether things will improve. maybe look away if you are a liverpool fan, what happened? something we have not seen _ fan, what happened? something we have not seen before, _ fan, what happened? something we have not seen before, liverpool- have not seen before, liverpool conceding five goals at home in europe. conceding five goals at home in euro e. ., ., ., ., conceding five goals at home in euroe. ., ., ., ., ., ., europe. having gone to have an zero u -. europe. having gone to have an zero un- football — europe. having gone to have an zero un- football is _ europe. having gone to have an zero up. football is cruel— europe. having gone to have an zero up. football is cruel at _ europe. having gone to have an zero up. football is cruel at times. i up. football is cruel at times. today we _ up. football is cruel at times. today we will _ up. football is cruel at times. today we will see _ up. football is cruel at times. today we will see they - up. football is cruel at times. today we will see they were l up. football is cruel at times. | today we will see they were on up. football is cruel at times. i today we will see they were on a mini revival, two games on the bounce, they were going into this match against real madrid, the 14 times winners in europe, a great
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start and it'll alljust times winners in europe, a great start and it'll all just fall apart. maybe they could not cut five a day. -- get _ maybe they could not cut five a day. -- get their— maybe they could not cut five a day. —— get their five a day. it was a humbling last night in a competition liverpool love the most. to concede five goals in europe at home hasn't happened before. and whilst the scoreline was eye catching so we're a couple of mistakes from both goalkeepers as andy swiss can show us. here we go again. nine months after losing in the final, liverpool were out for real revenge. but could they get it? well, just watch this. fantastic ball! first, darwin nunez sparked anfield euphoria with a moment of fantasy football and soon it was 2—0, thanks to a goalkeeping howler. oh, he's made a mess! mo salah the scorer, but one thibaut courtois would probably rather forget. the drama had barely begun, though, as real madrid brilliantly hit back through viniciusjunior before he then levelled things up after another goalkeeping gaffe.
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alisson's blunder making it 2—2. and it was only halftime. and after it, guess what? first real took the lead through eder militao, before two goals from karim benzema completed a quite staggering turnaround. 5—2 to real madrid on a night when liverpool's dream start turned into a nightmare. well, what an incredible game that was. but for liverpool fans here, that won't be much consolation. they now have a huge mountain to climb in the second leg in madrid if they're to keep their champions league hopes alive. andy swiss, bbc news, anfield. so unpick all that. real confident of progressing to the quarterfinals. liverpool have to win and score three goals at a stadium real haven't lost in all season. difficult, well, klopp certainly thinks so. i think carlo thinks the tie is over. and i think it is well, in this moment.
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but in three weeks, that's how it is in these moments. the closer you get to the game, the bigger our chances become. and the less likely the tie is over. but tonight, with the 5—2, and you see the game and it's like, well, they are pretty good in counterattacking, we have to score there three goals. so take some risks and that could be a bit tricky. now over to you manchester city, although pep guardiola doesn't strike me as a man who believes in destiny. but he sounded as though the destination of the trophy is already decdided. whether that's city's first remains to be seen. they're in germany to play leipzig. at the end, the destiny is already written. we do our best what we have done, we have been close, sometimes not, sometimes closer. it is not an exception now. this is my feeling, i live that position. i have the feeling what we have done all of us
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for many years, whatever happened to us, it's going to fail. whatever i do personally with the future, i'm going to fail. nothing will be enough. the big question around the six nations this weekend still remains. will the wales and england game happen? wales head coach warren gatland delaying naming his team amid an ongoing dispute which could see the players strike. we can get more now from bbc rugby commentator gareth rhys owen. molly, gareth. in a macro good. we know a training session was tuesday and warren gatland is delaying naming his team, pointing towards the game being called off? it interesting, today is d—day, the planes asked for a resolution today, wednesday, before the game on saturday. training cancelled, they are on a day off today, the team name was delayed to give the players
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an opportunity to continue opportunities for discussions. warren gatlin was told yesterday, he was optimistic but he conceded the threat of strike was genuine. the players are unhappy for a number of reasons but mainly due to their own welfare. , , . , , reasons but mainly due to their own welfare. , , ., , , ., ., , welfare. gives a sense of what needs to chance. welfare. gives a sense of what needs to change- it — welfare. gives a sense of what needs to change. it seems _ welfare. gives a sense of what needs to change. it seems unthinkable i welfare. gives a sense of what needs to change. it seems unthinkable thatj to change. it seems unthinkable that we are days away from a huge match in the six nations, millions of pounds at stake, what needs to happen for rugby fans and anyone interested in sport to see this game to happen? the interested in sport to see this game to ha en? ., interested in sport to see this game to hauen? ., . ., , , to happen? the game in wales is financed slightly _ to happen? the game in wales is financed slightly differently, i to happen? the game in wales is financed slightly differently, it i to happen? the game in wales is financed slightly differently, it is| financed slightly differently, it is the region and the union, they have failed to come up with an agreement. this impasse means that around 70 to 7076 professional players out of
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contract in the summer with no prospect of employment. they feel that these individuals have been let down badly. in addition they had been given some draft contracts as to whether futures would go on, and the players are suggesting these contracts are not necessarily stare. there is a threatened suggestion —— they are not necessarily fair. there is a threatened suggestion they may have to go on strike against their will, there is a lack of representation on these boards, and specifically the idea that wages would be reduced but in addition, 80% of basic guaranteed, 20% dependent on player performances. how many games they play, how many games on a winner. rugby players have been told day after day due to concussion and injury that they really need to manage their workload, city games and they do not feel 100%. these contracts
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suggesting —— city games out. these contracts are suggesting opposite. i don't think there will be an agreement today but they hope will be there will be some assurances given to the players or some draft contract that will appease them and allow this game to go ahead on saturday. allow this game to go ahead on saturda . . ~ allow this game to go ahead on saturda . ., ,, , ., ., allow this game to go ahead on saturda . ., ,, ., , , ., ,, ., saturday. thank you for speaking to us, aaivin saturday. thank you for speaking to us. giving us _ saturday. thank you for speaking to us, giving us some _ saturday. thank you for speaking to us, giving us some context - saturday. thank you for speaking to us, giving us some context as i saturday. thank you for speaking to us, giving us some context as to i saturday. thank you for speaking to | us, giving us some context as to how it is shaping up closer to that game this weekend. there is the self—imposed deadline at the players are put on with a cast of those negotiations today, if things were to change over the coming days, they could stand down. i to change over the coming days, they could stand down.— could stand down. i know it is difficult for _ could stand down. i know it is difficult for the _ could stand down. i know it is difficult for the fans _ could stand down. i know it is difficult for the fans but i could stand down. i know it is difficult for the fans but the i difficult for the fans but the players must feel very strongly about this to be taking this kind of action. ':: :: , about this to be taking this kind of action. ' :: :: , . about this to be taking this kind of action. ':: :: , ., ., about this to be taking this kind of action. ' i: i: , ., ., ., about this to be taking this kind of action. ' :: :: , ., ., ., , action. 10096, and how it had been allowed to get _ action. 10096, and how it had been allowed to get to _ action. 10096, and how it had been allowed to get to this _ action. 10096, and how it had been allowed to get to this point, i action. 10096, and how it had been allowed to get to this point, it i allowed to get to this point, it seems crazy you have players out of contract at the end of the season and you are in the middle of the six nations as well, it seems crazy it has taken this long and the players
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feel they have been pushed into a corner. a lot will pay out in the coming days but it seems unthinkable that one of the biggest matches in the six nations, wales and england, a packed stadium, maybe £10 million potentially going to be lost. it will be a huge moment for rugby. thank you very much, see you later. gyms and swimming pools are struggling to stay afloat due to rising energy costs. sports organisations and top athletes have written to the prime minister, warning if the government scales back its energy support scheme from april as planned, that could be the "final straw". matt graveling reports. in the deep end. in at the deep end. in just six weeks, facilities like this will see their income dive as gyms, leisure centres and pools fall from the government support scheme to help with rising energy costs. the industry has called this the final straw and today
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has appealed for help. this letter sent to the prime minister, rishi sunak, has been signed by more than 200 organisations and people, all pleading with the government not to cut the funding. some of the national sporting bodies on here include british cycling and england netball, but the government say they've already provided £18 billion to schools and leisure centres to help get them through the winter, as well as made a £1 billion package available to get the sector through the pandemic. the clubs will find it increasingly difficult to survive because we have to put the prices up to them. they have to pass it on to the kids. and again, it's the poorer families that will suffer. mark oversees a number of venues, including this outdoor lido in london. he says grassroots sports will suffer, especially swimming. britain will still have pools, britain will still have swimmers, but it will become an elite activity rather than something we've all grown up with, expecting to be available to all of us. and of course, there's the health and safety issue as well with swimming. if people can't swim, then we end up with drownings.
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and drownings is a concern for one signatory of today's letter. olympic champion swimmer rebecca adlington. fundamentally, it's obviously children that learn how to swim, but actually there is adults that get themselves into danger. there are so many drownings that are happen in each year and it's getting worse. a lot of parents that don't take their children swimming or can't afford to, the school has that responsibility. but if these pools are closing, well, then how can the school even access them? the organisation behind today's letter say funding cuts will lead to further closures and more ill health, an issue already costing the country billions every year. you'll see multi—sport facilities being restricted, including football. you'll see bespoke programmes for women, for people from ethnically diverse communities, for disabled people as well, all being restricted. withjust under a month until the budget, those working in the leisure sector are now pleading for a little more
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help to stay afloat. matt graveling, bbc news. as energy bills are rising, it is the help they need. it is as energy bills are rising, it is the help they need.— as energy bills are rising, it is the help they need. it is and we will follow _ the help they need. it is and we will follow that _ the help they need. it is and we will follow that story _ the help they need. it is and we will follow that story over i the help they need. it is and we will follow that story over the i the help they need. it is and we i will follow that story over the next few weeks. we have been talking about the shortage of some fruit and vegetables in the supermarket and has some of the stores are introducing policies to restrict sales from this morning. that will explain to us how the weather is having an impact on some of the stuff being grown in europe, matt? yes, huge area of high pressure is stubbornly sitting across europe, that has impact in parts of france particularly where they have had their longest dry spell on record. unbelievable for this stage in the winter. it has had an impact on water levels in italy, look at the
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low canals in venice, struggling getting around for some. that same stubborn area of high pressure has been directing low pressure towards iceland and morocco, morocco is the chief going area, that has brought —— chief growing area. it has impacted ferries and transport across the region. over the next week or so. there are more areas of low pressure set to push into parts of north—west africa that is high pressure re—establishing itself across parts of europe. let's get back to the uk. four months in the uk we have got —— for once, we have got no pressure. spring flowers will be blooming. you can see the extent
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of the cloud across the uk. there is rain across the uk. outbreaks of rain across the uk. outbreaks of rain will continue through the day, central and eastern england staying county committee, murky and damp. the tops of the hills the showers will be wintry. temperatures closer to where they should be in the stage of february. more cloud and outbreaks of rain in england and wales. by the end of the night, anywhere from mid wales to the midlands north, they could be a frost and icy conditions. a chilly start tomorrow morning. some high
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pressure is trying to build him but not quite there yet, to the north a bit there will be showers, to the south there is cloud, slowly brightening up but it turns wet and windier in the north of scotland. in between, are present in a day after the chilly start, fine in the sunshine. thursday night into friday, there is when fronts start to push down, high pressure not quite building in yet so more cloud and outbreaks of rain particularly in the east, west and areas should be dry. thank you. birthdays are always best when you celebrate them with friends, and for d—day veteran ken and code—breaker margaret, this weekend was a very special occassion. they met through the charity, blind veterans uk, and discovered
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that not only were they born on the same day, but that they were both turning 100 at the weekend. their families arranged a special video call during their birthday parties so they could wish each other many happy returns. abi smitton reports. # happy birthday to you happy birthday to you # happy birthday... from opposite ends of the country, friends ken and margaret are celebrating their centenaries. born on the same day 100 years ago. hello, ken. hello, hello. nice seeing you again. nice seeing you. never thought we'd reach this age together. ken and margaret both served in world war two. margaret was a code—breaker working at bletchley park. i've never told anybody, not even my family, don't even know the coding that we used. and nobody else has said anything
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because it would have been up. i've seen where they've put different things up that's come up and it's never come up yet. and i know they haven't got it because their historians are trying their hardest to get it out of me and i'll not tell them. ken was in the army. he fought on d—day, landing on sword beach. the first one, they run up the beach. and the french, little french man on the top of the beach and he said, "hello, tommy, i knew you'd come back one day." when you look back and think how near you was to death, you know, back here today, 100 years old, it don't seem real. it was a chance meeting that led to ken and margaret becoming friends and finding out that they shared a birthday. he was on the next table to me and we're talking across to one
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another and he says, "when were you born, margaret?" and i says, oh, and then he started telling me when he was. and then we worked it all out and he was born on the same day as me. and i thought, "oh, that's nice." so after that, we've got plenty to talk about. and he said that it didn't know what the weather was like on the day he was born. i says, "well, i do, it snowed!" they met through blind veterans uk, the charity for former service people suffering with sight loss. i think that speaks to the camaraderie of our veterans and our members. it's not a surprise. they have some amazing times together and the fact that they're able to celebrate, for two of our blind veterans to celebrate their 100th birthday is not extraordinary, but it is quite wonderful. grandad? hello! this is from all your grandchildren. we've all got together. and done you a present. surrounded by grandkids and great grandkids... 0h, gracious me!
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ken and margaret were the stars of the show. as well as matching parties, singers and cake, ken and margaret both received birthday cards from the king. i wasn't bothered until it came, and i'm like, ooh! a little heart flutter. cheering. my wife and i are so pleased to know that you are celebrating your 100th birthday. even after the party is wrapped up, there was reason to continue celebrating. the birth of ken's newest great grandson. 100 years to the day after ken and margaret. bye, ken, happy birthday! bye! abi smitton, bbc news.
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what a surprise to end on! they did not tell us what _ what a surprise to end on! they did not tell us what happened - what a surprise to end on! they did not tell us what happened at i what a surprise to end on! they did not tell us what happened at the i what a surprise to end on! they did. not tell us what happened at the end because they said, you will love it. on the birthday! love that story. ken and market, happy birthday, and baby, welcome! time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london. i'mjim wheble. the head of the metropolitan police is calling for a pay award for his officers that's close to the current rate of inflation. sir mark rowley says that must come with additional government funding, otherwise the met will be forced to have fewer officers. the government's recommended a 3.5% pay rise increase for almost all public sector workers for the next financial year. counter—terror officers
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are investigating threatening letters sent to an activist and tv presenter. the letters claim to come from a banned neo—nazi group and were sent to india willoughby, who is transgender, and dr shola mos—shogbamimu. the met said they contained "vile language and threats". no arrests have yet been made. friday marks one year since the russian invasion of ukraine, and shortly after that, of course, hundreds of londoners opened their doors to refugees fleeing the conflict. celia and her husband steve from leyton were one such to family to help out. they took in anastasia's family who they had met before on a visit to ukraine in 2005. we hadn't met anastasia's partner borsan, and suddenly, they're here, and nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow. they really help us with everything. so, with the school,
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celia helped me with some stuff with the council. i will never forget about this. let's take a look at the tubes now. now onto the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello there, good morning. it's been a very dry month so far across the capital. mild and springlike too over the last few days but changes are afoot. there is some wet weather in the forecast to come over the next couple of days, and there will also be a drop in temperature before high pressure builds back in as we head through the weekend. for this morning, a frost free start to the day. there is some cloud, some outbreaks of mostly light, patchy rain and drizzle. on and off throughout the day but it won't be raining all the time. there will be lots of long dry
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spells about as well and the wind turns a bit more north—westerly. temperatures on a par with yesterday, could be nine to 10 degrees celsius for most of us. so for most of us, cooler feeling air digging in behind that cold front, maybe some clear spells for a time it will be a chilly start to the day on thursday. but again with some outbreaks of rain and plenty of cloud. that's all set to clear away to leave us with some sunshine as we go through thursday afternoon but also a rather chilly northerly wind. again, perhaps a passing shower on friday. that's it from me. there's a nice story on our facebook page about nine—year—old henry newman from east london, who's had his first book published. but for now, back to sally and john.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. our headlines today. intensive talks begin to try and end the nurses strike, as the government recommends below inflation pay increases next year for millions of public sector workers in england. morrisons becomes the latest supermarket to limit the amount of fruit and veg you can buy, because of a shortage of fresh produce. shamima begum — who fled london as a schoolgirl tojoin islamic state — finds out today if she's won her appeal against being stripped of her british citizenship struggling to fund the cost of social care, and how people with disabilities — likejulia — end up facing
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legal action because she can't afford to pay i try not to think that way. you know, i'm always trying to be positive. but the fight is wearing me out and making me more ill. ruthless real madrid — a night of unwanted records for liverpool, who let in five at home in europe for the first time in their history.. we'll be hearing all about the appeal to recruit more bell ringers, in time for the king's coronation. to be fairthough, to be fair though, the weather outside of the window made not make you want tojump outside of the window made not make you want to jump out of bed. outside of the window made not make you want tojump out of bed. summer rain. things will brighten up later. it will feel chillier. good morning. it's wednesday, 22nd february.
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the health secretary, stephen barclay, is to meet representatives of the royal college of nursing this morning, after the union suspended a strike planned for next week in england. following months of disputes, the two sides have said they would begin intensive talks on pay, terms and conditions, and reforms. government proposals for next year's public sector pay are also being drawn up. here's our health correspondent, sophie hutchinson. no ifs, no buts, no nhs cuts! after a winter of strikes, finally, a glimmer of hope. nurses who've carried out six individual walk—outs, and who were planning to increase the pressure with the biggest, longest strike so far in england, have agreed to pause the action. now, instead of striking, today, leaders from the royal college of nursing will meet for intensive talks with ministers and officials. i've always said i wouldn't negotiate in public. the prime minister has now got the table prepared. we will be there and we will enter
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those negotiations in good faith as soon as they start. and we will make sure that no stone is left unturned, to make sure that that fair pay deal is reached as quickly as possible, so that we can bring a conclusion to these strikes. how successful will they be? initially, nurses had asked for a pay increase of 5% above inflation. since then, their union, the rcn, has said it would meet the government halfway. on the other side, ministers had insisted they would not renegotiate this year's pay deal. but a source close to the negotiations has said they may consider backdating a deal. pressure on the government has been ramping up, with ever bigger strikes planned, and junior doctors in england now deciding tojoin the picket lines. we need to see further progress made. there are, of course, other unions planning to take action,
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and we want to see industrial action across the nhs resolved, in order for the nhs to focus on the things that it wants to for patients. the desire to reach an agreement and avert more pain is perhaps understandable. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. meanwhile, teachers in parts of england are going ahead with planned strikes next week, despite a similar offer from the government to hold talks about pay. the national education union has rejected an invitation from education secretary gillian keegan to start formal pay talks in return for calling off industrial action. we sincerely regret the disruption of children's education that will take place, and the disruption of parents' working lives and their home lives. but we hope that parents will understand that we are taking this action with an aim in mind of stopping the problems of teacher recruitment and retention, which are growing because of workload, but also because of the pay situation in our schools. that's why we're taking this action. we believe — we know — there is disruption to children's education every day. it comes as attention is now turning to pay
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for the next financial year. millions of public sector workers in england will be offered a 3.5% pay increase under the proposals. let's speak now to our political correspondent, nick eardley. morning to you. is this going to solve anything? it morning to you. is this going to solve anything?— morning to you. is this going to solve anything? it might, is the honest answer _ solve anything? it might, is the honest answer at _ solve anything? it might, is the honest answer at this _ solve anything? it might, is the honest answer at this morning. | solve anything? it might, is the i honest answer at this morning. for months, we have said here on breakfast and talked about these talks being stuck, because the government saying, we can't talk about this year's pay deal, the unions were saying, we have to talk about this your�*s pay deal. what has changed now is that the government is putting the pay deal for 2022, 2023, back on the table. it is something that ministers are now being allowed to discuss in those pay talks. it doesn't mean that they will definitely be a deal. we don't know the specifics. i think the most likely outcome is that of the government would offer to backdate next pay, next year's pay deal
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offer, a bit more money to nurses and other public sector workers who fall under these offers. but nothing is guaranteed. they will still be a ceiling, a maximum to what can be offered. when you talk to people in the treasury, the people who control the treasury, the people who control the purse strings, they say, look, if you have widespread pay deals over 5%, that could make inflation worse. it could make or challenge of bringing down inflation even harder. that is contested, but that is where the treasury is coming from. i do think there is a lot more room for manoeuvre this morning. it is definitely progress, the fact that the nursing union is sitting down with government ministers this morning. the rcn said its confident of some sort of deal come be struck. i don't think they would be sitting down if that was not the case. but it doesn't mean necessarily that all the strikes will be solved. we've said it once, we've said it a million times, when it comes to pay
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deals, it is all about the detail, that will be the crucial thing. thank you. supermarkets are introducing restrictions on the amount of certain fruits and vegetables that customers can buy. you might have noticed some empty shelves, after extreme weather caused supply issues across the uk. the shortages are only expected to last a few weeks, but in the meantime, shoppers may face limits on the number of cucumbers, peppers and tomatoes that they can take home. our business correspondent marc ashdown has more. if you've been to do your weekly shop in the past few days, you might have noticed a few gaps. social media has been awash with pictures from frustrated shoppers of empty shelves in the fresh fruit and veg aisle. now, some of the big supermarkets are taking steps to protect supplies. in asda, you can now only buy three each of tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, lettuce, salad bags, broccoli, cauliflower and raspberries. and in morrisons, from today,
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shoppers will be limited to two each of tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce and peppers. the supermarkets say extreme weather in european countries where they source their produce has impacted supply chains. they say the measures are to make sure all customers can still get hold of fruit and veg. we're thinking about some disruption maybe for the next fortnight or so, just a little bit less availability than you'd normally see in your supermarkets. but supermarkets are great at sorting through these challenges. we saw that during the pandemic. they'll be finding different suppliers to to get more produce onto the shelves. but also, after sort of — when we get into march and beyond, then we get a lot more of our product here in the uk, which makes it much easier. when there were food and fuel supply issues last year, the government's own office for budget responsibility said brexit had made things worse than in other countries. this time, some retail analysts say the problems are down to high energy costs, and extreme hot and cold weather affecting crops across europe. supermarkets say the imminent start
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of the uk growing season will help them maintain supplies in the spring. but the national farmers' union says the industry needs more support. the more we face shortages, the more it will drive food inflation. we've got to come up with a way of making sure we can keep producing what the nation needs. we've got 70 million people in this country. it's an island nation. food security needs to be taken really seriously. so far, none of the other major supermarkets have introduced limits. asda and morrisons say the temporary measures should only need to be in place for a matter of weeks. mark ashdown, bbc news. president biden will finish his trip to poland today, by holding talks with the leaders of countries along nato's eastern european border, from estonia to bulgaria. our eastern europe correspondent, sarah rainsford, joins us now from warsaw. a lot of talking in the next few hours. what will be the focus of
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those discussions?— hours. what will be the focus of those discussions? yeah, a lot of talkin: , those discussions? yeah, a lot of talking. but _ those discussions? yeah, a lot of talking. but a _ those discussions? yeah, a lot of talking, but a lot _ those discussions? yeah, a lot of talking, but a lot of _ those discussions? yeah, a lot of talking, but a lot of things i those discussions? yeah, a lot of talking, but a lot of things to i talking, but a lot of things to discuss because with the war in ukraine right on poland's border, poland is playing a pretty major role in leading the response to what is happening there. there is a lot of pride here in poland that they are hosting the us president for the second time in under a year. but also, this gathering, the bucharest nine, from the baltics to the bulgaria, on the eastern flank of nato, who have become much louder voices in terms of the position taken by the nato alliance, and are pushing for much more support for ukraine, talking about military support increasing, but also, i think is significant that they are making sure the united states is committed, and nato is committed, to defending this region of the world, the eastern edge of nato. in the last few days we have seen german troops bringing patriot anti—aircraft missiles to the
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eastern edge of poland to defend against the possibility, the possibility of an accident, a misfiring, the possibility of the war in ukraine escalating onto nato territory. it is about defending nature, as well as pushing for more help for ukraine. an awful lot to discuss with president biden here in warsaw in this capitaljust this afternoon. thanks for that update. snp leadership contender, kate forbes, has insisted that her campaign is still on track, despite losing the backing of several government ministers over her opposition to gay marriage. key backers of the finance secretary have withdrawn their support, after she said she would have voted against same—sex unions if she'd have been at holyrood when the legislation was passed. british steel is expected to announce that it will close its coking ovens in scunthorpe, putting 300 jobs at risk. coke ovens are used to turn coal into coke, which is needed to fuel the blast furnaces at the plant. the closure would mean
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that the british steel industry will need to import its coke rather than creating it in britain. at least one person has died in a powerful tropical storm that is battering the east coast of madagascar. cyclone freddy has caused schools and transportroutes to close on the island, with winds recorded higher than 120 kilometres—per—hour. this comes just weeks after another tropical storm killed 33 people and left thousands without shelter. we will keep across the details of that in the hours to come. 12 minutes past seven. matt has got the weather. it felt quite springlike to me. mild, the birds were singing. is this going to continue? no! ., ., , , this going to continue? no! ., ., , - no! come on, 'ust say yes! yes, it will. yes, — no! come on, 'ust say yes! yes, it wau. yes, it — no! come on, just say yes! yes, it will. yes, it will. _ no! come on, just say yes! yes, it will. yes, it will. just _ no! come on, just say yes! yes, it will. yes, it will. just turn - no! come on, just say yes! yes, it will. yes, it will. just turn away i will. yes, it will. just turn away for the next minute and a half.
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things are changing. good morning. returning to where we should be at this stage in february. unusually mild. not too chilly out there at the moment. it will feel chillier later on. that is when many of you have got rid of a damp and misty start and brighten things up. let's look at what is happening temperature wise. widely in single figures. about where we should be for the state in february. not as pretty cold. western scotland and northern ireland the chill is pushing its way in. that is as rain continues to ease after a damp overnight. we have got rain in central and eastern england. not seen much of that this month. fragmented rain bands. on and off. drizzle, lots of low cloud, misty and murky over the hills. this morning, scotland and the northern runner and the northern runner brightens into sunshine. sunshine and western england and wales later on. wintry on the tops of the hills. much brighter compared to this morning. eastern counties of england
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stay cloudy and damp with some drizzle. winds coming from the north—west, which means temperatures will not rise much true today. staying around seven to nine celsius for most. where we should be at this stage in february. it means a colder night tonight. some cloud, further showers and in that i'm wales working their way south. the sky is clear from working their way south. the sky is clearfrom mid—wales, midlands, clear from mid—wales, midlands, northwoods. clearfrom mid—wales, midlands, northwoods. frost and ice an issue into tomorrow morning. rain tomorrow top and tail of the country. as we head into the weekend to fulfil nice enoughin head into the weekend to fulfil nice enough in the sunshine, but cooler than we started this week. 0k. than we started this week. ok. thank you. more than 60,000 adults with disabilities and long—term illnesses in england were chased for debts by councils last year, after failing to pay for their social care support at home. claimants say they can't afford the charges amid rising food and rent prices, along with the additional costs of living with disabilities. councils maintain they only take action as a last option. here's our social affairs
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editor, alison holt. this has become julia brosnan's world. most of her days are spent within the four walls of her bedroom. she has back problems, severe mobility issues, and a rare skin condition. i can't cook for myself any more. i can't carry things. i can barely walk, because my legs are numb and they don't hold me. her local council charges her nearly £60 a week for the 13 hours of care they provide her with. going through her bills, she says she simply can't afford to pay. she gets about £300 a week in benefits. that covers her household bills and the extra costs of the creams, air filters and specialised food she needs. basically, ijust stop opening their letters because i can't do anything about it. i haven't got the money to give them. julia now owes the council £4,700, and it's taking legal action against her. she's constantly worried the bailiffs will be
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knocking on her door. you know, i can't see a way ahead. and that's upsetting? i try not to think that way. you know, i'm always trying to be positive. but the fight is wearing me out, and making me more ill. nearly 80 out ofjust over 150 councils in england responded to a bbc request for data about the numbers, likejulia, struggling to pay care charges. in the last financial year, more than 60,000 people with disabilities and care needs were chased by councils because they'd run up debts. legal action was taken in 330 cases. disability campaigners say it is a sign of how difficult life has become. basic foodstuffs have gone up, rents have increased. i think they're expecting people to live on very, very little money if you want social care, and that is discriminatory. we provide the very best care
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that we can for them - for the money that we have. but there is only so much money in the system. i councils say rising demand and squeezed budgets mean they have to collect money that is owed. but legal action is a last resort. what the councils should be doing, and i think the vast majority of- councils do in the vast majority of cases, is that they work- with residents to find a solution, to find the financial route - through this, so that it is i a fair and equitable system. and julia's council, east sussex, maintains it does that with its clients. but until a solution is found in her case, she says she lives with constant worry. i'm just surviving, you know. that's how my life is. i keep thinking, well, one day they might wake up and realise, actually, i can't pay it. alison holt, bbc news. we're joined now by jackie o'sullivan from the learning disability charity, mencap. morning to you. i hope you are able
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to hear some of that report. i am just wondering how familiar a story thatis just wondering how familiar a story that is to you, is that a story you recognise?— recognise? i'm afraid it is. over the last number— recognise? i'm afraid it is. over the last number of— recognise? i'm afraid it is. over the last number of years - recognise? i'm afraid it is. over the last number of years we i recognise? i'm afraid it is. over. the last number of years we have recognise? i'm afraid it is. over- the last number of years we have had calls from people slapped with large charges in terms of care packages. more recently, we have been getting calls from people who really can't afford, just likejulia, to take up that care. it is something we are familiar with. what is shocking though, what your research shows, is the scale of this. 60,000 people who are disabled and have long—term health conditions chased for debt. over 300 prosecuted. that is really shocking. over 300 prosecuted. that is really shockina. ~ , , , over 300 prosecuted. that is really shockin~.~ , , , ., ,, over 300 prosecuted. that is really shockina. , , , ., shocking. why is this happening now? quite simply. — shocking. why is this happening now? quite simply, there _ shocking. why is this happening now? quite simply, there is _ shocking. why is this happening now? quite simply, there is not _ shocking. why is this happening now? quite simply, there is not enough i quite simply, there is not enough money in the system. councils, i don't think for one minute local authorities want to do that. no one goes into social care and becomes a social care commissioner to chase disabled people for care payments. i think they are forced to because there isn't enough money for them to
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serve all of the needs of their residents. serve all of the needs of their residents— serve all of the needs of their residents. ~ ., ., ~ ., ,., residents. when we look at the sort of --eole residents. when we look at the sort of people who _ residents. when we look at the sort of people who are _ residents. when we look at the sort of people who are being _ residents. when we look at the sort of people who are being given i residents. when we look at the sort | of people who are being given these charges, slapped with these charges, what sort of people are they? are they the most vulnerable, or are they the most vulnerable, or are they people who are already getting support from families?— support from families? without ruestion support from families? without question they _ support from families? without question they are _ support from families? without question they are the _ support from families? without question they are the most i question they are the most vulnerable. by definition they are living on benefits. we know those aren't terribly generous. they are also dependent on social care to live. and in some cases people are getting support from families. but thatis getting support from families. but that is putting huge amounts of strain on very stretched family budgets. so one case we had recently, we had a couple who themselves were living on state pensions, who were trying to subsidise their daughter with a learning disability, who is 45, and he was being charged £84 a week for some daycare. they were reduced to going around at night wearing head torches because they couldn't afford torches because they couldn't afford to turn the electricity on. that is simply wrong. the idea that
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stretched families can somehow chip in to cover for stretched families can somehow chip in to coverfor their stretched families can somehow chip in to cover for their loved ones, thatis in to cover for their loved ones, that is not a good idea. so in to cover for their loved ones, that is not a good idea.- in to cover for their loved ones, that is not a good idea. so we have the local government _ that is not a good idea. so we have the local government authority i the local government authority already talking about stretched budgets. we have the government pointing to the funding they already provide for councils, for social care. is this becoming a political football? ~ ,., , care. is this becoming a political football? ~ , ,, ., care. is this becoming a political football? ~ , ~ ., ., football? well, it sounds like a lot of money- — football? well, it sounds like a lot of money- iout _ football? well, it sounds like a lot of money. but it _ football? well, it sounds like a lot of money. but it actually - football? well, it sounds like a lot of money. but it actually isn't i of money. but it actually isn't enough. so, there have been multiple house of commons select committee report and house of lords report, that say at least double that amount of money needs to go into the system to stabilise it. those are groups of mps from all parties. there is also widespread consensus among expert bodies like the health foundation that we need between eight and £12 billion just to stabilise the system. it sounds like a lot but it is not enough and local authorities are being faced with increasing need, and there is simply —— they simply aren't able to pay for it all. ., . ,
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all. councils say they only take action as an — all. councils say they only take action as an absolute - all. councils say they only take action as an absolute final- all. councils say they only take i action as an absolute final resort. is there perhaps a situation somewhere where people are not aware of how they should be budgeting for this? should they be more educated about how to do this? i this? should they be more educated about how to do this?— about how to do this? i think more information _ about how to do this? i think more information is _ about how to do this? i think more information is always _ about how to do this? i think more information is always a _ about how to do this? i think more information is always a good i about how to do this? i think more| information is always a good thing, but i really don't think that is going to fix this problem. it is so desperate, and people's budgets are so tight, and as your report clearly showed, people are faced with increased cost of living expenses, which are disproportionately affecting those on social care and benefits. i really don't think it is a matter of simply managing budgets better. plus, we also know that some of those care packages, particularly for people with a learning difficulty, that help them finance and help them manage their household budgets, are actually being cut. i am really worried that people are spiralling into debt. and we are going to see the consequences. the human consequences of people who are not able to pay their rent and and
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“p not able to pay their rent and and up homeless and worse. —— end. you up homeless and worse. -- end. you are the chair— up homeless and worse. -- end. you are the chair of— up homeless and worse. -- end. you are the chair of a _ up homeless and worse. —— end. you are the chair of a group of charities helping care users. what do you suggest to people watching this morning who are struggling, who might be getting into financial difficulties?— difficulties? what are their options? _ difficulties? what are their options? i _ difficulties? what are their options? i think— difficulties? what are their options? i think appeal. i difficulties? what are their options? ithink appeal. if| difficulties? what are their- options? i think appeal. if your council does come and ask you to contribute towards your social care, do look at it and do try to appeal. talk to your council to see if you can find a resolution. i think giving up a care package should be your last resort. if you have a learning disability, all of this is terribly complex and you might need support. go to the mencap health line. —— helpline. there is advice and information you can follow. but do appeal. don'tjust worry and information you can follow. but do appeal. don't just worry about is. i think people are terrified. they are on low incomes as it is. they are on low incomes as it is. they depend on their social care to live. and if they could pay these charges, they certainly would, because they are terrified. jackie
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o'sullivan from _ because they are terrified. jackie o'sullivan from mencap, - because they are terrified. jackie o'sullivan from mencap, thank. because they are terrified. jackie o'sullivan from mencap, thank you. interesting looking at the responses on social media this morning. a real variety between different councils in different parts of the country, the way that is affecting them. the animation studio aardman, best known for wallace and gromit, has worked with the charity, save the children, to create a short film to highlight the experiences of refugee children fleeing conflict. the film, called home, will be shown to primary school children across the uk to mark the one—year anniversary of the invasion of ukraine. tim muffett visited a school in margate for the premiere. popcorn... red carpet arrivals... ..and at holy trinity and stjohn's primary school in margate, a movie exclusive. so we're really excited. we've been asked to host the world premiere of the aardman animation home. good afternoon, everybody. how lovely to see you. peter lord, co—founder of aardman animation, the studio that brought us wallace
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and gromit, chicken run, shaun the sheep, and now... welcome to the world premiere of home. we wanted to make an inspirational film about refugees and what it means to be a refugee. home tells the story of an orange circle starting a new life in an unfamiliar world of purple triangles. doesn't use language, which is a thing we've done a lot of — notably, shaun the sheep. we hope this film could play anywhere in the world and tell the same sort of story.
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over the past year, like many schools, this one has welcomed refugees from ukraine. now, arriving in an unfamiliar place, having said goodbye to friends and family far away, well, it can be hugely unsettling for anyone. but for children, it can be especially hard, as tatiana has discovered. she fled ukraine last summer with her two young daughters. it's like, uncertainty. they didn't know where we were going. and like, the worst part was that they were travelling without their dad. the biggest part of my heart is still there in ukraine. how has it been? how have you managed when it comes to settling in? for the girls, it was so hard to socialise at the very beginning. but the school, they found new friends here, the teachers, so they are supporting constantly. we always had a buddy system up, so every child that arrives
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in the class has a buddy to look after them, show them around the school, to be with them at lunchtimes, as well as just to kind of look out for them. this short film has been made in partnership with the charity save the children. there is no end in sight for the violence in ukraine. so we're seeing more and more families across the borders every day. currently, four million ukrainian children have fled the country. i think they deserve from us this tolerance and compassion and friendship that this film really reflects. i think it was really good - because it's helping other people from a different country.
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it was great because it showed how to introduce people when they move to a new town. i really like the film because at the end everyone got treated nicely. a smile is the same in any language, and love is the same in any language. so i hope, when those ukrainian children go back to ukraine one day, i hope they will learn that love wins. home does what animation can do best. tell a story when there are no words. tim muffett, bbc news. really simple but really beautiful film. we will be talking about this in more detail with the comedian dom jolley, who grew up in the lebanese
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civil war and came to the uk. and newsreader natasha kaplinsky, who has taken in a ukrainian family. if you are going to get a train this morning, you might need to double, triple check the details. national rail have tweeted there is a problem with real—time information about journey planning on their systems. the real—time is not necessarily been displayed. it is being investigated and will be resolved as soon as possible. the time is 7:28am. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london, i'mjim wheble. the head of the metropolitan police is calling for a pay award for his officers that's close to the current rate of inflation. sir mark rowley says that must come with additional government funding, otherwise the met will be forced to have fewer officers. the government wants a 3.5% increase for almost
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all public sector workers for the next financial year. counter—terror officers are investigating threatening letters sent to an activist and tv presenter. the letters claim to come from a banned neo—nazi group and were sent to india willoughby, who is transgender, and dr shola mos—shogbamimu the met said they contained "vile language and threats". no arrests have yet been made. friday marks one year since the russian invasion of ukraine and shortly after that of course hundreds of londoners opened their doors to refugees fleeing the conflict. celia and her husband steve from leyton were one such to family to help out. they took in anastasia's family who they had met before on a visit to ukraine in 2005. we hadn't met anastasia's partner borsan, and suddenly, they're here, and nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow. they really help us with everything. so, with the school, celia helped me with some stuff with the council.
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let's take a look at the tubes now. there's a good service on most of the tubes this morning, although the district line is part suspended between turnham green and richmond, on the london overground there are severe delays out of euston due to a signal failure. and on the bakerloo line, hammersmith and city and jubilee lines all have minor delays as well. now onto the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello there, good morning. it's been a very dry month so far across the capital. mild and springlike too over the last few days but changes are afoot. there is some wet weather in the forecast to come over the next couple of days, and there will also be a drop in temperature before high pressure builds back in as we head through the weekend.
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for this morning, a frost free start to the day. there is some cloud, some outbreaks of mostly light, patchy rain and drizzle. on and off throughout the day but it won't be raining all the time. there will be lots of long dry spells about as well and the wind turns a bit more north—westerly. temperatures on a par with yesterday, could be nine to 10 degrees celsius for most of us. so for most of us, cooler feeling air digging in behind that cold front, maybe some clear spells for a time it will be a chilly start to the day on thursday. but again with some outbreaks of rain and plenty of cloud. that's all set to clear away to leave us with some sunshine as we go through thursday afternoon but also a rather chilly northerly wind. again, perhaps a passing shower on friday. that's it from me, there's a nice story on our facebook page about nine—year—old henry newman from east london who's had his first book published but for now back to sally and jon.
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hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. shamima begum, who left britain to join the islamic state group, is set to find out today whether she has won her appeal against being stripped of her british citizenship. let's remind ourselves of her story. shamima begum was 15 years old when she left the uk in february 2015 to join the islamic state group in syria. four years later, she was found alive at a refugee camp and the then—home secretary, sajid javid, removed her british citizenship. today, the special immigration appeals commission will rule on her citizenship case. shamima begum has given her account of what happened to bbc reporterjoshua baker, who has retraced herjourney for the podcast and documentary �*the shamima begum story'. i'm curious, because we first started talking, believe it or not, almost a year ago now.
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what's changed since then? nothing, i don't know. you know, my situation, legally, is still the same, i still don't have citizenship. at least with prison sentences you know that there will be an end but here you don't know that there's going to be an end. what do you think you'll be doing in seven years' time from now? still be in this camp. really? yeah. you don't think you'll be home? no. not at all? nope. why not? because isis was the worst thing of the 21st century and i was a part of it and now i have to face the consequences of my actions and this camp is the consequences of my actions. we're joined now byjoshua baker who hosts the bbc podcast �*the shamima begum story�*.
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there is also a documentary on iplayer. he followed this story the beginning, when shamima begum left when she wasjust 15. beginning, when shamima begum left when she was just 15. how significant is this hearing today? what we're looking at today is in essence of the big british government has to reconsider its decision to take away shamima begum's citizenship. in 2090 and it was removed, the government decided she was correct and it was in the public good to take away her citizenship and leave her in syria. her lawyers have said that at that point, the british government failed to consider that shamima begum was a victim of trafficking for sexual exploitation and they want the british government to reconsider that decision on that basis. today the judge will that decision on that basis. today thejudge will determine that decision on that basis. today the judge will determine whether they have to do that. we the judge will determine whether they have to do that.— the judge will determine whether they have to do that. we 'ust heard that cli of they have to do that. we 'ust heard that cup of you t they have to do that. we 'ust heard that clip of you speaking i they have to do that. we just heard that clip of you speaking to - they have to do that. we just heard that clip of you speaking to her- they have to do that. we just heard that clip of you speaking to her in l that clip of you speaking to her in the camp and she said she does not expect to be coming back to britain
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anytime said whatever the decision today? he anytime said whatever the decision toda ? ., , �* today? he doesn't, and regardless of which way the — today? he doesn't, and regardless of which way the decision _ today? he doesn't, and regardless of which way the decision goes, - today? he doesn't, and regardless of which way the decision goes, two i today? he doesn't, and regardless ofj which way the decision goes, two she doesn't, regardless of how the decision goes, she will remain in syria. the british government could appeal or come to the same conclusion again. 50 appeal or come to the same conclusion again.— appeal or come to the same conclusion again. so this will be auoin conclusion again. so this will be going through — conclusion again. so this will be going through the _ conclusion again. so this will be going through the courts - conclusion again. so this will be i going through the courts regardless of what happens today? yes. going through the courts regardless of what happens today?— going through the courts regardless of what happens today? yes, this is nothin: of what happens today? yes, this is nothing with — of what happens today? yes, this is nothing with this _ of what happens today? yes, this is nothing with this jemima _ of what happens today? yes, this is nothing with this jemima beckhaml nothing with thisjemima beckham story, it is keeps going and this is the next stage. —— shamima begum story. even if she loses i think she will bring the case to the court system with a legal team again. you have interviewed her several times, what will be going through her mind as she waits to hear this decision? the shamima begum of the day is someone who has spent four years at a camp in syria reflecting on the decisions she made and i think he is
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she would say desperate to come home and have her day in court. i think she understands that there is a lot of public outrage daughter decision and it is very unlikely that that will happen so i think he will not be expecting the decision to go her way. be expecting the decision to go her wa . ., be expecting the decision to go her wa , ., " ., be expecting the decision to go her wa. ., «a, .,, be expecting the decision to go her wa. ., ~ ., ., , be expecting the decision to go her wa . ., ~ ., ., , ., way. you know only too well how divisive she _ way. you know only too well how divisive she is _ way. you know only too well how divisive she is from _ way. you know only too well how divisive she is from the _ way. you know only too well how divisive she is from the figure i way. you know only too well how l divisive she is from the figure from the response to your podcast and the documentary, some people thought it should not have even been made, she should not have even been made, she should not have had the opportunity to give her story. it should not have had the opportunity to give her story-— to give her story. it has been to extremes. _ to give her story. it has been to extremes. we _ to give her story. it has been to extremes, we have _ to give her story. it has been to extremes, we have had - to give her story. it has been to extremes, we have had a i to give her story. it has been to extremes, we have had a lot i to give her story. it has been to extremes, we have had a lot of| extremes, we have had a lot of praise and love on social media but there has also been outrage and i understand that because her story is divisive. i would say, for the first time shamima begum said what she said with a definitive account and a team of investigative journalists poured over it to see when she was telling the truth and not so that's
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quite an important service when she is trying to come back to the uk. how have you seen her changed or has she not changed, how has your argument evolved? she she not changed, how has your argument evolved?— she not changed, how has your argument evolved? she is in part three people. — argument evolved? she is in part three people. in _ argument evolved? she is in part three people, in part— argument evolved? she is in part three people, in part the - argument evolved? she is in part three people, in part the naive i three people, in part the naive 15—year—old girl who left sticky chocolate to a war zone, she is a girl who has had her growing up in a terraced date has harsh single—mindedness in some places, and she is also a woman reflecting on these decisions so you are reflecting on all of these personalities.— reflecting on all of these personalities. reflecting on all of these ersonalities. ~ , ., , personalities. when you use words like naive. — personalities. when you use words like naive, some _ personalities. when you use words like naive, some people _ personalities. when you use words like naive, some people will- personalities. when you use words like naive, some people will be i like naive, some people will be horrified because people will say she knew exactly what she was doing, she knew exactly what she was doing, she was going and she was not naive at all. i she was going and she was not naive at all. ~' , ., ~' she was going and she was not naive at all. ~' i. ~ .,. , at all. i think if you knew exactly where you _ at all. i think if you knew exactly where you are — at all. i think if you knew exactly where you are going _ at all. i think if you knew exactly where you are going a _ at all. i think if you knew exactly where you are going a distal i at all. i think if you knew exactly i where you are going a distal decided to go but you are naive to the
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environment, that is the definition of naive. shamima begum was certainly fed a lot of information of how to get to syria by isis, she had a best friend who was there providing you information that she did have agency in —— but she did have agency in her decision to go so it is nuanced. it have agency in her decision to go so it is nuanced-— it is nuanced. it will come down to how much — it is nuanced. it will come down to how much of _ it is nuanced. it will come down to how much of a _ it is nuanced. it will come down to how much of a threat _ it is nuanced. it will come down to how much of a threat she - it is nuanced. it will come down to how much of a threat she is i it is nuanced. it will come down to how much of a threat she is now. it is nuanced. it will come down to | how much of a threat she is now to the uk. �* . ., , how much of a threat she is now to the uk. a ., , ., how much of a threat she is now to theuk. ., the uk. actually, no, the decision is all about _ the uk. actually, no, the decision is all about the _ the uk. actually, no, the decision is all about the shamima - the uk. actually, no, the decision is all about the shamima begum l the uk. actually, no, the decision. is all about the shamima begum of 2019. the shamima of today doesn't really factor into the process. it's all about whether she posed a threat in 2019 and if so whether british government right to take away her citizenship. it’s government right to take away her citizenshi -. �* , ., .,, ~ citizenship. it's almost like the case has been _ citizenship. it's almost like the case has been but _ citizenship. it's almost like the case has been but temple i citizenship. it's almost like the | case has been but temple since citizenship. it's almost like the - case has been but temple since 2019? yes, it's all about that moment in 2019, not who she is now. but this is very political. — 2019, not who she is now. but this is very political, not _ 2019, not who she is now. but this is very political, not the _
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2019, not who she is now. but this is very political, not the judge's i is very political, not the judge's decision but the political replications around it. johnny mercer, the government minister has said today she clearly represents a threat so that will be going on in the minds of a lot of people today. when i think we talk about threat, there are two ways to look at it. it would be ridiculous to think that anyone who has been with isis could not be a threat, they absolutely could. but what security experts, serving and former, are said to me is that we also need to consider that leaving people in syria doesn't necessarily make us safer, it is a much more complex situation than just leaving them over there so to speak. just leaving them over there so to seak. �* , . ., speak. and he will be in court toda ? i speak. and he will be in court today? twill— speak. and he will be in court today? i will in _ speak. and he will be in court today? i will in deed. - speak. and he will be in court today? i will in deed. what i speak. and he will be in court i today? i will in deed. what time are we expecting _ today? i will in deed. what time are we expecting a _ today? i will in deed. what time are we expecting a decision? _ today? i will in deed. what time are we expecting a decision? about i today? i will in deed. what time are| we expecting a decision? about 1015 but do not hold _ we expecting a decision? about 1015 but do not hold me _ we expecting a decision? about 1015 but do not hold me to _ we expecting a decision? about 1015 but do not hold me to that. - we expecting a decision? about 1015 but do not hold me to that. it - we expecting a decision? about 1015 but do not hold me to that. it could | but do not hold me to that. it could be a lona but do not hold me to that. it could be a long and _ but do not hold me to that. it could be a long and complex _ but do not hold me to that. it could be a long and complexjudgment. l be a long and complexjudgment. thank you forjoining us.
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you can listen to the shamima begum story on bbc sounds and watch the documentary on the bbc iplayer. it is just it isjust coming up it is just coming up to it isjust coming up to 7:40am. a busy night of sport. fix, it isjust coming up to 7:40am. a busy night of sport.— it isjust coming up to 7:40am. a busy night of sport. a bad night for liverool busy night of sport. a bad night for liverpool and _ busy night of sport. a bad night for liverpool and you _ busy night of sport. a bad night for liverpool and you can _ busy night of sport. a bad night for liverpool and you can realise - busy night of sport. a bad night for liverpool and you can realise how i liverpool and you can realise how cruel how sport can be, a brilliant start a new thought they had turned a corner, they had won games on the bounce after a difficult season but then you come up against real madrid. it was always going to be a challenging night. i didn't think they expected it to be quite this challenging. ruthless real, limp liverpool. it had started so well, but ended with an unwanted slice of history. a stroke of genius from darwen nunez and a second from m0 salah had the fans dreaming. but how it turned, viniciusjunior with a huge helping hand for his second as real pulled level. and the goals continued. three more in the second half,
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5—2 they lost, the first they've conceded that many at home in europe. they've now a mountain to climb in the second leg. i think carlo thinks the tie is over. it's one result which was the opposite of what we wanted, we made mistakes around the goal, and i said that a couple of times, a defeat is a defeat if you don't learn from it. if you don't learn tonight that the start of the game was outstanding and the way we played it was like we want to be and that's what we have to keep doing. i will allow this one came to be influential. manchester city will hope to fair better against rb leipzig in germany tonight. there's a trophy on the line for england too. sarina wiegman�*s side looking to retain the arnold clark cup, when they take on belgium in a winner takes all. 28 match unbeaten
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run they're on now. we wait to see how they will fare later. ~ ., , , ., ., later. the world cup is around the corner this — later. the world cup is around the corner this summer _ later. the world cup is around the corner this summer so _ later. the world cup is around the corner this summer so it - later. the world cup is around the corner this summer so it will - later. the world cup is around the corner this summer so it will be i corner this summer so it will be exciting for them. that form could certainly get them the at the moment potentially after their euro success. it's one of the biggest games in the british sporting calendar and brings in £10 million for the welsh economy, but today we should find out if wales v england in the six nations will go ahead on saturday. welsh coach warren gatland delayed naming his team yesterday with the players threatening to strike over an ongoing dispute surrounding their contracts. the players set a self imposed deadline for matters to be resolved or they'd strike. wales have lost their opening two six matches, while england suffered defeat to scotland before beating italy last time out.
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there has been things going on behind, we are well aware of that. when it's come to training, they have applied themselves very well so i'm pleased with that. fire have applied themselves very well so i'm pleased with that.— i'm pleased with that. are you hope for this game _ i'm pleased with that. are you hope for this game will— i'm pleased with that. are you hope for this game will take _ i'm pleased with that. are you hope for this game will take place? - for this game will take place? absolutely, yeah. a record breaking performance for england's cricketers at the women's t20 world cup against pakistan. they posted a score of 213 runs, that's the highest total in the tournament's history. nat sciver—brunt top—scored with an unbeaten 81. now they've got a semi final with south africa coming up on friday. talking of big wins. rugby league, a sport no stranger to defying the odds. super league champions st helens producing a golden point victory against nrl champions penrith panthers giving them an incredible win in the world club challenge. the first super league side to win the trophy in australia since 1994. head coach paul wellens and tommy makinson are with us. we will speak to them in a moment.
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here's how it happened. the world club challenge is under way, st helens versus penrith. st helens find their way through, the pass was on the line, they're going to score the first try. and this team has got one heck of a scrapbook. oh, what a kick. he's done it! what a kick. 12 all, the scoreline in the world club challenge. 80 minutes done and dusted, champion v champion. they need to add another round to the heavyweight bout. walmsley, right inside the posts. roby calls the shots. left foot shot, they've done it, a little humpback, lewis dodd, lewis dodd has won the world club challenge for st helens. tommy and paul are with us. good
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morning, gents. is it sinking in, the first time it has been done since the 905? what an achievement. it is pretty special for us for a club, it's wonderful to play that side, penrith, we had confidence and belief that we could go there and get results. the lads, could not have more respect for the way they went about it, it was phenomenal and wonderful to be a part of. this went about it, it was phenomenal and wonderfulto be a part of.— wonderful to be a part of. this was our first wonderful to be a part of. this was your first game — wonderful to be a part of. this was your first game in _ wonderful to be a part of. this was your first game in charge, - wonderful to be a part of. this was your first game in charge, you - wonderful to be a part of. this was i your first game in charge, you might yourfirst game in charge, you might as well retire now, where'd you go from here?— as well retire now, where'd you go from here? �* ., ., , ., ., from here? a lot of people have that suggestion! — from here? a lot of people have that suggestion! the _ from here? a lot of people have that suggestion! the main _ from here? a lot of people have that suggestion! the main reason - from here? a lot of people have that suggestion! the main reason i - from here? a lot of people have that suggestion! the main reason i took. suggestion! the main reason i took thejob was to suggestion! the main reason i took the job was to work with this fantastic group of players, i have known them for a number of years now. i know how hard they work and how determined they are for success. that makes myjob easier and i am looking forward to more times like this. , ., , , ., ., ., this. give a sense of how tough it is. it has this. give a sense of how tough it is- it has not _ this. give a sense of how tough it is. it has not been _ this. give a sense of how tough it is. it has not been done - this. give a sense of how tough it is. it has not been done since - this. give a sense of how tough it is. it has not been done since the 90s, the world championship area when you pit yourself against the
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worlds best in penrith. did you believe you could do it, and is the significance of what you have achieved sinking in? we significance of what you have achieved sinking in?- achieved sinking in? we had confidence _ achieved sinking in? we had confidence that _ achieved sinking in? we had confidence that we - achieved sinking in? we had confidence that we could - achieved sinking in? we had l confidence that we could beat achieved sinking in? we had - confidence that we could beat one of the best_ confidence that we could beat one of the best sides in the world but to do it_ the best sides in the world but to do it so— the best sides in the world but to do it so far— the best sides in the world but to do it so far away, it's surreal, looking — do it so far away, it's surreal, looking at— do it so far away, it's surreal, looking at that trophy, it's amazing. it's definitely worth the [on- amazing. it's definitely worth the long trio — amazing. it's definitely worth the lona tri.~ . , amazing. it's definitely worth the lonutri-. ., , ., amazing. it's definitely worth the lonu-tri. ., , ., , long trip. what makes it so far? is it auoin long trip. what makes it so far? is it going there _ long trip. what makes it so far? is it going there and _ long trip. what makes it so far? is it going there and playing - long trip. what makes it so far? is it going there and playing in - it going there and playing in australia, the strength of the competition, what makes it so hard to win this trophy? the competition, what makes it so hard to win this trophy?— to win this trophy? the strength of the competition _ to win this trophy? the strength of the competition is _ to win this trophy? the strength of the competition is great, _ to win this trophy? the strength of the competition is great, they - to win this trophy? the strength of the competition is great, they are l the competition is great, they are double—time premiers over there the competition is great, they are double—time premiers overthere in australia, _ double—time premiers overthere in australia, the travel, getting used to the _ australia, the travel, getting used to the heat, everything, and to achieve — to the heat, everything, and to achieve greatness over there, we knew _ achieve greatness over there, we knew we — achieve greatness over there, we knew we could but to actually do it is something special. i think it cements — is something special. i think it cements us as one of the best sides in histo . . , ~ in history. it was like there were moments _ in history. it was like there were moments of _ in history. it was like there were moments of magic, _ in history. it was like there were moments of magic, where - in history. it was like there were moments of magic, where the i in history. it was like there were - moments of magic, where the game just turned. talk as to how that
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happened and what it was like to be a part of it. it happened and what it was like to be a art of it. . , happened and what it was like to be a artofit. , happened and what it was like to be aartofit. , ., . a part of it. it was 'ust magic, 22 olden a part of it. it was 'ust magic, 22 golden point. — a part of it. it wasjust magic, 22 golden point, which _ a part of it. it wasjust magic, 22 golden point, which is— a part of it. it wasjust magic, 22 golden point, which is crazy, - a part of it. it wasjust magic, 22 golden point, which is crazy, notj golden point, which is crazy, not many— golden point, which is crazy, not many games go to that. we had our young _ many games go to that. we had our young calf— many games go to that. we had our young calf back lewis dodd kicking two with _ young calf back lewis dodd kicking two with the game, he has been through— two with the game, he has been through some turmoil. how two with the game, he has been through some turmoil.— two with the game, he has been through some turmoil. how is that for pressure! _ through some turmoil. how is that for pressure! we _ through some turmoil. how is that for pressure! we have done it fourj for pressure! we have done it four times in a — for pressure! we have done it four times in a row. — for pressure! we have done it four times in a row, lewis _ for pressure! we have done it four times in a row, lewis dodd - for pressure! we have done it four times in a row, lewis dodd doingl times in a row, lewis dodd doing that coming back from adversity shows _ that coming back from adversity shows the bunch of [ads we are and the character in the group. it shows the bunch of lads we are and the character in the group.- the character in the group. it 'ust all came did fl the character in the group. it 'ust all came did and i the character in the group. it 'ust all came did and slotted �* the character in the group. it 'ust all came did and slotted into e the character in the group. itjust l all came did and slotted into place. it was _ all came did and slotted into place. it was literally— all came did and slotted into place. it was literally meant _ all came did and slotted into place. it was literally meant to _ all came did and slotted into place. it was literally meant to be, - all came did and slotted into place. it was literally meant to be, going. it was literally meant to be, going over there — it was literally meant to be, going over there and creating history, the whole _ over there and creating history, the whole trip _ over there and creating history, the whole trip was built around this one moment— whole trip was built around this one moment and speaking to our captain james _ moment and speaking to our captain james roby, it felt like it was meant — james roby, it felt like it was meant to— james roby, it felt like it was meant to be.— james roby, it felt like it was meant to be. james roby, it felt like it was meantto be. ~ meant to be. when you say you spoke about it, meant to be. when you say you spoke about it. what — meant to be. when you say you spoke about it, what did _ meant to be. when you say you spoke about it, what did you _ meant to be. when you say you spoke about it, what did you say? _ meant to be. when you say you spoke about it, what did you say? how - meant to be. when you say you spoke about it, what did you say? how do i about it, what did you say? how do you handle that pressure? from a coachin: you handle that pressure? from a coaching perspective, _ you handle that pressure? from a coaching perspective, that's - coaching perspective, that's something we plan and prepare for for a long time. we put ourselves in
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that situation on the training field. it's one thing doing it on the training field, another being able to do it under such pressure like we did at the weekend. that's why i hold this group of players in the highest regard. doing it under pressures is what matters in the top end of sport. pressures is what matters in the top end of sport-— end of sport. tough going over there, end of sport. tough going over there. tough — end of sport. tough going over there, tough getting back. - end of sport. tough going over there, tough getting back. we| end of sport. tough going over- there, tough getting back. we have been on a globetrotting _ there, tough getting back. we have been on a globetrotting journey. i been on a globetrotting journey. essentially it took 53 hours door to do through various publications along the way. it was made all the long —— complications along the way. but it was easier after the win. it but it was easier after the win. it can sometimes take that long to get to london on the train. that is twice as long as it should have done. what happened? who booked that ticket? irate done. what happened? who booked that ticket? ~ . , done. what happened? who booked that ticket? ~ ., , ., ., . ,, ticket? we are trying to track the personnel. _ ticket? we are trying to track the personnel. we — ticket? we are trying to track the personnel, we can _ ticket? we are trying to track the personnel, we can sense - ticket? we are trying to track the personnel, we can sense and - ticket? we are trying to track the personnel, we can sense and big | ticket? we are trying to track the - personnel, we can sense and big eyes to the _ personnel, we can sense and big eyes to the house! it's one of those things. — to the house! it's one of those things. we _ to the house! it's one of those things, we deal with the situation, we just— things, we deal with the situation, we just pleased to get the victory.
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-- we _ we just pleased to get the victory. -- we can— we just pleased to get the victory. —— we can send some big guys to the house! _ -- we can send some big guys to the house! ~ . , -- we can send some big guys to the house!_ we _ -- we can send some big guys to the house!_ we are - -- we can send some big guys to the house!_ we are back i -- we can send some big guys to the house!_ we are back at j house! what is next? we are back at castleford on — house! what is next? we are back at castleford on sunday, _ house! what is next? we are back at castleford on sunday, so _ house! what is next? we are back at castleford on sunday, so it's - house! what is next? we are back at castleford on sunday, so it's a - house! what is next? we are back at castleford on sunday, so it's a huge| castleford on sunday, so it's a huge challenge for this group. we are very proud of what we have achieved in recent years, but we want to continue this success and it will be a great opportunity for us to start that journey. a great opportunity for us to start that journey-— that journey. you must be a bit jet-lagged. _ that journey. you must be a bit jet-lagged. getting _ that journey. you must be a bit jet-lagged, getting back- that journey. you must be a bit jet-lagged, getting back and i that journey. you must be a bit - jet-lagged, getting back and playing jet—lagged, getting back and playing must be quite hard. to jet-lagged, getting back and playing must be quite hard.— must be quite hard. to get us here at this early... _ must be quite hard. to get us here at this early... we _ must be quite hard. to get us here at this early... we have _ must be quite hard. to get us here at this early... we have added - must be quite hard. to get us here at this early... we have added to l at this early... we have added to our at this early... we have added to your pain! _ at this early... we have added to your pain! over— at this early... we have added to your pain! over the _ at this early... we have added to your pain! over the coming - at this early... we have added to your pain! over the coming days| at this early... we have added to i your pain! over the coming days we will start to — your pain! over the coming days we will start to get _ your pain! over the coming days we will start to get our _ your pain! over the coming days we will start to get our body _ your pain! over the coming days we will start to get our body back- your pain! over the coming days we will start to get our body back and l will start to get our body back and be ready to perform over the weekend-— be ready to perform over the weekend. ., ., ., , weekend. five in a row potentially for ou, weekend. five in a row potentially for you. tommy? _ weekend. five in a row potentially for you, tommy? he _ weekend. five in a row potentially for you, tommy? he wants - weekend. five in a row potentially for you, tommy? he wants to - weekend. five in a row potentially . for you, tommy? he wants to sustain this period of dominance you are having in the domestic game, can you do it? are you well placed to win a five in a row? j do it? are you well placed to win a five in a row?— five in a row? i don't see any reason why _ five in a row? i don't see any reason why we _ five in a row? i don't see any
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reason why we can't, - five in a row? i don't see any reason why we can't, we - five in a row? i don't see any| reason why we can't, we have five in a row? i don't see any - reason why we can't, we have done it for years— reason why we can't, we have done it for years now. — reason why we can't, we have done it for years now, we are getting stronger~ _ for years now, we are getting stronger. the team is the same, we haven't— stronger. the team is the same, we haven't lost anyone, so watch this space _ haven't lost anyone, so watch this sace. ~ ., , ., , haven't lost anyone, so watch this sace. ., , , haven't lost anyone, so watch this sace. ., , space. who gets to put the trophy on the mantelpiece? _ space. who gets to put the trophy on the mantelpiece? i _ space. who gets to put the trophy on the mantelpiece? ithink— space. who gets to put the trophy on the mantelpiece? i think it'll- space. who gets to put the trophy on the mantelpiece? i think it'll be - space. who gets to put the trophy on the mantelpiece? i think it'll be at i the mantelpiece? i think it'll be at a first class _ the mantelpiece? i think it'll be at a first class cabin _ the mantelpiece? i think it'll be at a first class cabin somewhere. - the mantelpiece? i think it'll be at i a first class cabin somewhere. does it still have — a first class cabin somewhere. does it still have some _ a first class cabin somewhere. lire" it still have some champagne in it? it is dry! laid out for us! thank you for coming in. we are all a bit matching this morning. it is unplanned. we are in the pink and so is matt, good morning. yes, unbelievable, miles away from you but in the same colours obviously in tune this morning. the weather ofjune —— is not in tune. a lot of rain around in some areas,
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some areas it will be welcome. things will brighten up to the day across northern and western areas but it will feel cooler. that clearer weather ads towards the west, the cooler conditions pushing south, these are shower clouds but the thicker glad we have got across the thicker glad we have got across the country is bringing outbreaks of rain. have your best across central and eastern england, some across scotland —— still the odd moderate burst of rain. misty and murky throughout the day in central and eastern england. most of you will brighten up shower clouds around will push across northern and western areas, turning wintry on the tops of the hills. we have seen 16 or 17 degrees, this is a big drop. closer to where we should be, about
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10 degrees. showers across england and wales overnight, sleet and snow on the tops of the hills. from mid—wales, midlands and north, skies clearing, frost and ice into thursday morning. a ridge of high pressure extending in, to the north we have weather fronts bringing wet and windy weather to parts of the far north of scotland through thursday. the south, southern counties of england, the channel islands is staying cloudy, outbreaks of rain and drizzle, staying brighter. it is going to be a dry day tomorrow, a chilly start but a pleasant enough day with some sunny spells throughout. we finished the day with some wet and windy weather across northern scotland, these weather fronts with high pressure working its way south across the country had to friday. not much rain around on it, i weatherfront brings some rain and drizzle across parts of scotland and northern england,
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when you the north sea coast, further west is a little bit dry and brighter with sunshine at times. temperatures will feel cooler than that in the breeze. what happens beyond that, into the weekend it looks like a ridge of high pressure will build it properly and that will the weather down. emphasis will be on the dry weather, cooler than of late, overnight frost and fog but right through the weekend into this next week, it will be dry and bright foremost. for hundreds of years, church bells have rung out to proclaim special events, as well as to call people to worship. can you hear them? i do feel like we are in matching _ can you hear them? i do feel like we are in matching outfits, _ can you hear them? i do feel like we are in matching outfits, it— can you hear them? i do feel like we are in matching outfits, it feels - are in matching outfits, it feels like we are going to a wedding!
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new recruits to bell—ringing are in decline, but with just over ten weeks to go until the coronation of king charles, a campaign is under way to fill the vacancies. jo black is at st paul's church in birmingham this morning, and can tell us more. morning, jo. yes, the shortage of bell-ringers _ morning, jo. yes, the shortage of bell-ringers has _ morning, jo. yes, the shortage of bell-ringers has been _ morning, jo. yes, the shortage of bell-ringers has been an - morning, jo. yes, the shortage of bell-ringers has been an issue . morning, jo. yes, the shortage ofj bell-ringers has been an issue for morning, jo. yes, the shortage of. bell-ringers has been an issue for a bell—ringers has been an issue for a while but the forthcoming coronation has highlighted the problem and there are pockets in the country which are well served but some do have a shortage. i have been speaking to some bell—ringers in ipswich you have come forward to doing for the king. —— to ring for the king. bells ring the unmistakable sound of church bells has been part of the soundscape across towns and cities for centuries. they help us celebrate, commemorate, and are a weekly call to worship. now, with just over ten weeks to go until the coronation, there is a shortage of hell ringers who will ring for the king. and so the race is on to find and train people up. all yours. that hand stroke, stretch and pull through.
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st lawrence's in ipswich, a deconsecrated church, is now a community hub. we're told the bells here are the oldest entire ring of five bells in the country, dating back to the 1a00s. and the weekly ringing session held here on a wednesday lunchtime, is today doubling up as a training exercise for some who have come to answer this particular coronation call. we want to make sure that there are ringers for every church so that we can all ring out for ring for the king, for the coronation. but some of our beginners here today learnt because of the queen'sjubilee, and they wanted to be able to ring for that. and then, a lot of them rang when the queen died. so we've had this constant teaching of beginners right the way through since that original push. i saw some advert about needing more bell ringers to ensure that all the churches were ringing
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for the king's coronation. and because he's such a great environmentalist, and i'm an environmentalist, too, i thought i'd come back and ring for the coronation. at the moment i'm excited about it. i can't imagine that i'm going to be quite ready. but i think i will — i hope i will. but yeah, i's a once in a lifetime opportunity, isn't it, really? i'd encourage younger people to really get involved with it, because it is really enjoyable and you make lots of friends very quickly. but, with a shortage of ringers and teachers, is bell ringing seen, perhaps unfairly, as a bit old fashioned? no, it's super cool. it's absolutely super cool. and no one would ever believe that it wasn't. there is still enough time to learn before coronation day. and these new members know they will be part of serie something historic, and they hope to keep on ringing for many more years to come.
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lets talk to some bell—ringers about this. lets talk to some bell-ringers about this. �* , lets talk to some bell-ringers about this. 3 ,, . ~ lets talk to some bell-ringers about this. �*, ,, .«r ., this. let's speak to the reverend first, we this. let's speak to the reverend first. we have — this. let's speak to the reverend first, we have heard about the i first, we have heard about the shortage of bell—ringers in some parts of the country but you are oversubscribed?— parts of the country but you are oversubscribed? yes, we have a stron: oversubscribed? yes, we have a strong and _ oversubscribed? yes, we have a strong and lively _ oversubscribed? yes, we have a strong and lively team, - oversubscribed? yes, we have a strong and lively team, it - oversubscribed? yes, we have a strong and lively team, it is - oversubscribed? yes, we have a| strong and lively team, it is hard to be part of the team and we also recruit here so we have a school to teach people bell—ringing. and that is full up, so we are ok. teach people bell-ringing. and that is full up, so we are ok.— is full up, so we are ok. thank you so much- — is full up, so we are ok. thank you so much. elizabeth, _ is full up, so we are ok. thank you so much. elizabeth, you _ is full up, so we are ok. thank you so much. elizabeth, you have - is full up, so we are ok. thank you so much. elizabeth, you have been bell—ringing for a couple of years, 12 years old, what is it like being so young and bell—ringing, what do you get out of it? it’s so young and bell-ringing, what do you get out of it?— you get out of it? it's the friends, ou you get out of it? it's the friends, you make — you get out of it? it's the friends, you make friends _ you get out of it? it's the friends, you make friends with _ you get out of it? it's the friends, you make friends with so - you get out of it? it's the friends, you make friends with so many i you get out of it? it's the friends, i you make friends with so many people all over the world and you have a connection you did with other people and those friendships stay forever. it is quite a sociable thing. simon, we have been talking to people about this shortage, and some people have said that they would like to just
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turn up on the day on their local church and start bell—ringing but you do need a little bit more training rather than just turning up? training rather than 'ust turning u . ? , ., , training rather than 'ust turning u? , ., , , ., training rather than 'ust turning up? yes, as you have seen that from watchin: up? yes, as you have seen that from watching the — up? yes, as you have seen that from watching the bell-ringers _ up? yes, as you have seen that from watching the bell-ringers upstairs, i watching the bell—ringers upstairs, it is a _ watching the bell—ringers upstairs, it is a highly skilled activity so it is a highly skilled activity so it takes— it is a highly skilled activity so it takes many hours of face—to—face one-on-one — it takes many hours of face—to—face one—on—one tuition. at leading to rin- one—on—one tuition. at leading to ring the _ one—on—one tuition. at leading to ring the king is the first step. you don't need _ ring the king is the first step. you don't need to _ ring the king is the first step. you don't need to be _ ring the king is the first step. you. don't need to be musical or good at maths? , , . ., ., maths? rhythm is good, coordination and a sense — maths? rhythm is good, coordination and a sense of— maths? rhythm is good, coordination and a sense of adventure _ maths? rhythm is good, coordination and a sense of adventure is _ maths? rhythm is good, coordination and a sense of adventure is good. i and a sense of adventure is good. you have — and a sense of adventure is good. you have been ringing for a few years, it's something to do, if someone asks what you are doing at the weekend you have got something to say it is interesting. what would you say to someone who is at home considering this ring for the king? it's a really good opportunity to learn _ it's a really good opportunity to learn to— it's a really good opportunity to learn to ring _ it's a really good opportunity to learn to ring-— it's a really good opportunity to learn to rina. , ., , ., ., learn to ring. there is a shortage, not enough _ learn to ring. there is a shortage, not enough to _ learn to ring. there is a shortage, not enough to man _ learn to ring. there is a shortage, not enough to man every - learn to ring. there is a shortage, not enough to man every bell i learn to ring. there is a shortage, i not enough to man every bell which
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would be a good starting point, i'm told. you don't have to be into maths, musical, you don't really have to be fit but you need a bit of training, maybe ten to 20 hours, i'm told. if you are interested, now could be the time to start. you know what ou could be the time to start. you know what you have _ could be the time to start. you know what you have got _ could be the time to start. you know what you have got to _ could be the time to start. you know what you have got to do, _ could be the time to start. you know what you have got to do, then, i could be the time to start. you know what you have got to do, then, jo. i | what you have got to do, then, jo. i had a go last week and that was absolutely terrible!— had a go last week and that was absolutely terrible! needs must! all hands to the — absolutely terrible! needs must! all hands to the ropes! _ absolutely terrible! needs must! all hands to the ropes! we _ absolutely terrible! needs must! all hands to the ropes! we will - absolutely terrible! needs must! all hands to the ropes! we will be i absolutely terrible! needs must! all hands to the ropes! we will be back| hands to the ropes! we will be back with jo later. hands to the ropes! we will be back withjo later. dare hands to the ropes! we will be back with jo later-— with jo later. are you going to have a no? with jo later. are you going to have a go? no. — with jo later. are you going to have a go? no. i— with jo later. are you going to have a go? no. i might— with jo later. are you going to have a go? no, i might put— with jo later. are you going to have a go? no, i might put on _ with jo later. are you going to have a go? no, i might put on some i with jo later. are you going to have i a go? no, i might put on some cables on the roof- — a go? no, i might put on some cables on the roof. you _ a go? no, i might put on some cables on the roof. you would _ a go? no, i might put on some cables on the roof. you would break - a go? no, i might put on some cables on the roof. you would break them. i | on the roof. you would break them. i break everything! _ stay with us, headlines coming up.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. 0ur headlines today. intensive talks begin to try and end the nurses strike, as the government recommends below inflation pay increases next year for millions of public sector workers in england. morrisons becomes the latest supermarket to restrict the number of fruit and veg items that each person can buy because of shortages. i am at a wholesale market in west london to find out why and what it means for you. shamima begum — who fled london as a schoolgirl tojoin islamic state —
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finds out today if she's won her appeal against being stripped of her british citizenship. in sport, how ruthless real madrid have liverpool reeling, letting in five goals at anfield for the first time in their history in the champions league. aidan turner and jenna coleman will be here to tell us about their new play, looking at silence, body language, and the words we use. in whether it is actually grey, misty and quite in whether it is actually grey. misty and quite wet in whether it is actually grey, misty and quite wet out there for some of you. things were brighten up later but it will feel cooler. full forecast here on breakfast. good morning. it's wednesday, 22nd february. the health secretary, stephen barclay, is to meet representatives of the royal college of nursing this morning, after the union suspended a strike planned for next week in england. following months of disputes, the two sides have said they would begin intensive talks on pay, terms and conditions, and reforms.
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government proposals for next year's public sector pay are also being drawn up. here's our health correspondent, sophie hutchinson. no ifs, no buts, no nhs cuts! after a winter of strikes, finally, a glimmer of hope. nurses who've carried out six individual walk—outs, and who were planning to increase the pressure with the biggest, longest strike so far in england, have agreed to pause the action. now, instead of striking, today, leaders from the royal college of nursing will meet for intensive talks with ministers and officials. i've always said i wouldn't negotiate in public. the prime minister has now got the table prepared. we will be there and we will enter those negotiations in good faith as soon as they start. and we will make sure that no stone is left unturned, to make sure that that fair pay deal is reached as quickly as possible, so that we can bring a conclusion to these strikes. how successful will they be?
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initially, nurses had asked for a pay increase of 5% above inflation. since then, their union, the rcn, has said it would meet the government halfway. 0n the other side, ministers had insisted they would not renegotiate this year's pay deal. but a source close to the negotiations has said they may consider backdating a deal. pressure on the government has been ramping up, with ever bigger strikes planned, and junior doctors in england now deciding tojoin the picket lines. we need to see further progress made. there are, of course, other unions planning to take action, and we want to see industrial action across the nhs resolved, in order for the nhs to focus on the things that it wants to for patients. the desire to reach an agreement and avert more pain is perhaps understandable. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. meanwhile, teachers in parts of england are going ahead with planned strikes next week —
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despite a similar offer from the government to hold talks about pay. the national education union has rejected an invitation from education secretary gillian keegan to start formal pay talks in return for calling off industrial action. we sincerely regret the disruption of children's education that will take place, and the disruption of parents' working lives and their home lives. but we hope that parents will understand that we are taking this action with an aim in mind of stopping the problems of teacher recruitment and retention, which are growing because of workload, but also because of the pay situation in our schools. that's why we're taking this action. it comes as attention is now turning to pay for the next financial year. millions of public sector workers in england will be offered a 3.5% pay increase under the proposals. let's speak now to our political correspondent, nick eardley.
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good morning. there is a lot going on here. negotiations about this year, talking about have the numbers for next year. but do you get the sense that politically there is any kind of movement? are we looking to an end to all these strikes? j kind of movement? are we looking to an end to all these strikes?— an end to all these strikes? i think there is some _ an end to all these strikes? i think there is some political _ an end to all these strikes? i think there is some political movement| an end to all these strikes? i think i there is some political movement on this. i think four months the government said it won't talk again about this year's pay deal, the one that lasts from april 2020 two, two april 23. that lasts from april 2020 two, two april23. ministers that lasts from april 2020 two, two april 23. ministers have always said, we are not revisiting that. i think that is on the table. there is the prospect that could be improved, may be by backdating next year's pay deal to make sure that people get a bit extra money for this year. whether that is enough to end all of this has been going on for a while and the government has never been
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able to come up with the extra cash needed to pay for it. chatting to people around the treasury, my understanding is they are not going to put new money up for these pay deals at the moment. that will limit what can be offered. there is also a sense within government that anything over 5% would make inflation worse. so, that seems to be still a bit of a ceiling when it comes to the broad public sector, that the government doesn't want to give loads of people pay deals over 5%, because they think that would make inflation worse. remember, as well, although the nurses are meeting the health secretary today, the ambulance drivers, the junior doctors, some of the other people in strike are not in that place at the moment. so, that is not going to mean and sudden end to the strikes we have been covering, but i do think it opens a door. it means there is a bit more optimism. nurses
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would not be getting around the table if they didn't think there was a realistic prospect of a new deal here, which they could sell to their members, so in that sense, definite progress. members, so in that sense, definite rouress. , . ~' members, so in that sense, definite rouress. , ., ~ i. progress. interesting. thank you very much _ progress. interesting. thank you very much indeed. _ some supermarkets are introducing restrictions on the amount of certain fruits and vegetables that customers can buy. you might have noticed some empty shelves, after extreme weather caused supply issues across the uk. the shortages are only expected to last a few weeks, but in the meantime — shoppers may face limits on the number of cucumbers, peppers and tomatoes that they can take home. our business correspondent marc ashdown has more. if you've been to do your weekly shop in the past few days, you might have noticed a few gaps. social media has been awash with pictures from frustrated shoppers of empty shelves in the fresh fruit and veg aisle. now, some of the big supermarkets are taking steps to protect supplies. in asda, you can now only buy three each of tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, lettuce,
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salad bags, broccoli, cauliflower and raspberries. and in morrisons, from today, shoppers will be limited to two each of tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce and peppers. the supermarkets say extreme weather in european countries where they source their produce has impacted supply chains. they say the measures are to make sure all customers can still get hold of fruit and veg. we're thinking about some disruption maybe for the next fortnight or so, just a little bit less availability than you'd normally see in your supermarkets. but supermarkets are great at sorting through these challenges. we saw that during the pandemic. they'll be finding different suppliers to to get more produce onto the shelves. but also, after sort of — when we get into march and beyond, then we get a lot more of our product here in the uk, which makes it much easier. when there were food and fuel supply issues last year, the government's own office for budget responsibility said brexit had made things worse than in other countries. this time, some retail analysts say the problems are down to high
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energy costs, and extreme hot and cold weather affecting crops across europe. supermarkets say the imminent start of the uk growing season will help them maintain supplies in the spring. but the national farmers' union says the industry needs more support. the more we face shortages, the more it will drive food inflation. we've got to come up with a way of making sure we can keep producing what the nation needs. we've got 70 million people in this country. it's an island nation. food security needs to be taken really seriously. so far, none of the other major supermarkets have introduced limits. asda and morrisons say the temporary measures should only need to be in place for a matter of weeks. mark ashdown, bbc news. shamima begum, who left britain to join the islamic state group, is set to find out whether she has won her appeal against being stripped of her british citizenship. she left the uk in february 2015 to join the islamic state group in syria.
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four years later, the then home secretary sajid javid removed her british citizenship. our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford reports. this was shamima begum in february 2015, eight years ago, leaving gatwick airport with two school friends to go and join the islamic state group in syria. a friend who'd already gone there had persuaded them tojoin her. the three of them travelled through a bus station in turkey and were smuggled across the border by a man who, it later turned out, was providing information to canadian intelligence. she spent the next four years in islamic state territory, emerging after the caliphate collapsed, but she immediately had her british citizenship removed by sajid javid, who was then the home secretary. she's been in the camps in northern syria ever since. at least with prison sentences you know that there will be an end. but here, you don't know if there's going to be an end. she will hear today if her
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challenge of sajid javid's decision is successful. her lawyers have argued that, rather than being stripped of her citizenship, she should have been treated as a victim of trafficking for sexual purposes, because she was married to an adult fighter within weeks of arriving in syria. and richard barrett, who specialised in counter—terrorism at both mi6 and the united nations, believes leaving women such as shamima begum in the camps creates more risk, not less. at least if she were in london, there would be procedures for monitoring her. the local community would be aware of her. and there also might be ways to ensure that she wasn't still radical, trying to bring her back into society. there's no such programme available in the camps in north—east syria. what do you think you'll be doing in seven years' time from now? still he in this camp! really? yeah. you don't think you'll be home? nope _ not at all? nope. why not?
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because isis was the worst thing of the 21st century, and i was a part of it. and now i have to face the consequences of my actions. and this camp is the consequences of my actions. in court, lawyers for the government argued that shamima begum was still a risk to national security, with some of the secret evidence heard behind closed doors. and today, she will hear whether the judge agreed. daniel sandford, bbc news. that decision at about half past ten this morning. president biden will finish his trip to poland today by holding talks with the leaders of countries along nato's eastern european border, from estonia to bulgaria. the meeting with the group — which is known as as the bucharest nine — will concentrate on regional defence and the supply of more aid to ukraine. there are problems with national rail�*s system which provides information
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about train times, including journey planners — which means passengers don't know if their service is running or if it's on time. in a twitter post, national rail enquiries says "there is a problem with real—time information on a number of systems including journey planners. this is being investigated and will be resolved as soon as possible." customers are also being advised to purchase tickets onboard or from ticket offices. breaking news. it hasjust breaking news. it has just been resolved. all sorted out. system is no longer showing the wrong information. there you go. that was quick. i was going to say back to normal, but may be the other way is more normal! snp leadership contender kate forbes has insisted that her campaign is still on track, despite losing the backing of several government ministers over her opposition to gay marriage. 0ur scotland correspondent lorna gordonjoins us now from glasgow. lorna, outgoing first minister nicola sturgeon has been asked
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for her opinion on the leadership race, hasn't she? what has she said? good morning. the snp is a party renowned for party discipline. independence is the issue that unites its members. what you are seeing is that aside from that, it is a pretty big tent containing people with a wide range of views. nicola sturgeon has said she will not endorse any candidate to be her successor. but speaking last night, i think she was a sign posting what values she thinks her priority, and indeed perhaps her successor, should have. the snp has many times, including, i'm pretty— the snp has many times, including, i'm pretty certain, by all of you at one time — i'm pretty certain, by all of you at one time or— i'm pretty certain, by all of you at one time or another, been accused wrongly. _ one time or another, been accused wrongly. in— one time or another, been accused wrongly, in my view, i'm not embracing _ wrongly, in my view, i'm not embracing debate on issues. so, perhaps we are seeing the opposite of that— perhaps we are seeing the opposite of that right now. but it's really important, i think,
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of that right now. but it's really important, ithink, people look of that right now. but it's really important, i think, people look to the snp _ important, i think, people look to the snp as— important, i think, people look to the snp as the government in scotland — the snp as the government in scotland to be clear in the values of the _ scotland to be clear in the values of the kind — scotland to be clear in the values of the kind of scotland we are. fair. _ of the kind of scotland we are. fair. open, _ of the kind of scotland we are. fair, open, inclusive, tolerant country — country. this has been a country. — this has been a difficult few days for kate forbes. she had said she wanted to run that campaign on a platform of honesty. some people might say for a politician to be so candidate is refreshing. some might say that her views are offensive and it has certainly been a red line for some people in her party. some of her fellow some people in her party. some of herfellow msps in her some people in her party. some of her fellow msps in her party. some people in her party. some of herfellow msps in her party. others are saying she has been treated very unfairly. that other candidates for the position of snp party leader and first minister, their views are not being subjected to the same forensic questioning. the second candidate out of the three is asked regan. she has not yet made herself available for interviews to be questioned. she
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said she will be at some point. what we do know that she supports gay marriage. she opposes the gender recognition reform bill legislation because she believes it could be exploited by predatory men. hamza yusuf supports gay marriage. he also says he supports the controversial gender recognition reform bill. thank you. british steel is expected to announce that it will close its coking ovens in scunthorpe — putting 300 jobs at risk. coke ovens are used to turn coal into coke, which is needed to fuel the blast furnaces at the plant. the closure would mean the british steel industry will need to import its coke rather than creating it in britain. at least one person has died in a powerful tropical storm that is battering the east coast of madagascar. cyclone freddy has caused schools and transport routes to close on the island, with winds recorded higher than 120 kilometres—per—hour. beachside hotels in mauritius have also been damaged by floods. this comes just weeks after another
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tropical storm killed 33 people and left thousands without shelter. and b format gives us the weather for the uk for the next couple of days, he can explain a bit about that cycle in what has been going on. yes, this is the cyclone from space. it is moving quite rapidly across madagascar. the problem is it will head towards mozambique, where it could strengthen again. we will be keeping an eye on it. lots of cloud on our shores. quite a grey, misty and murky start. some proper rain. things were brighten up through the day. sunny spells, will feel cooler thanit day. sunny spells, will feel cooler than it has none of light. certainly a chillier start than the past few mornings. as you can see from the temperatures, still above where we should be at this time infirmary. that will change tomorrow morning. out there at the moment there is quite a bit of rain so far this
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morning. it is starting to fragment. you can see the blue—collar ors fragmenting. still pretty white in eastern scotland. patchy rain and drizzle elsewhere. western and northern areas were brighten up this afternoon. showers in northern scotland, northern ireland, wales, drifting towards the south—west. another band in northern england later on. away from these eastern counties, it will stay grey, misty and damp all day long. the breeze will drop the temperature. compared to what we have at the moment, barely lifting through the day. 79 celsius during the afternoon. those are closer to where we should be at the state in february. tonight we will see cloud and patchy rain pushed its way across england and wales. it will get colder on the tops of the hills. sleet and snow. clearer skies in between. the chance of frost and ice around. rain topping and tailing the country tomorrow. the outlook for the weekend is a dry one. . ~' the outlook for the weekend is a dry
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one. ., ~ , ., last week, we brought you the remarkable story of dr malcolm russell, who rescued someone from beneath the rubble in turkey, five days after the earthquakes which killed more than 114,000 people. malcolm is the medical director of the uk international search and rescue team, and has recently returned home, after being deployed to gaziantep in south—east turkey. before we speak to him, let's remind ourselves of his work. a british medical team on the ground in turkey starting a new day, trying to make that tiny difference. success. a woman is pulled from a collapsed building. it has taken 18 hours of painstaking work to get to this happy ending. scrabbling through the rubble, british rescue teams like this one led by doctor malcolm russell, were part of an
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international effort tasked with pulling people out and giving hope. it's malcolm, the doctor. i'm ok, yeah. i'm ok. it's malcolm, the doctor. i'm ok, yeah- i'm 0k-_ it's malcolm, the doctor. i'm ok, yeah. i'm ok. this man was rescued from a collapsed _ yeah. i'm ok. this man was rescued from a collapsed hotel _ yeah. i'm ok. this man was rescued from a collapsed hotel after - yeah. i'm ok. this man was rescued from a collapsed hotel after the i from a collapsed hotel after the team heard knocking. ok. from a collapsed hotel after the team heard knocking. ok, right, nice and steady. — team heard knocking. ok, right, nice and steady. guys- — team heard knocking. ok, right, nice and steady, guys. here, _ team heard knocking. ok, right, nice and steady, guys. here, a _ team heard knocking. ok, right, nice and steady, guys. here, a man i team heard knocking. ok, right, nice and steady, guys. here, a man was i and steady, guys. here, a man was tra ed in and steady, guys. here, a man was trapped in a — and steady, guys. here, a man was trapped in a collapsed _ and steady, guys. here, a man was trapped in a collapsed building i and steady, guys. here, a man was trapped in a collapsed building two | trapped in a collapsed building two floors up. j’m trapped in a collapsed building two floors u -. �* ., ., i. floors up. i'm going to give you some medicine _ floors up. i'm going to give you some medicine now— floors up. i'm going to give you some medicine now for - floors up. i'm going to give you some medicine now for your i floors up. i'm going to give you i some medicine now for your pain. they got him out from under the rubble but his leg was badly injured. they needed to get him down this letter and out of the building. ideally you want to bring in that way _ ideally you want to bring in that wa . , ., ., , ideally you want to bring in that wa. , ., ., way. his airway, breathing and circulation _ way. his airway, breathing and circulation are _ way. his airway, breathing and circulation are ok _ way. his airway, breathing and circulation are ok at _ way. his airway, breathing and circulation are ok at the i way. his airway, breathing and i circulation are ok at the moment.
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currently it is not time critical. 0k, currently it is not time critical. ok, we will have a b plan option. in the meantime, if we need to out quickly. ht the meantime, if we need to out ruickl . , ., ., ., quickly. it is more than two weeks since the massive _ quickly. it is more than two weeks since the massive 7.8 _ quickly. it is more than two weeks since the massive 7.8 quake i quickly. it is more than two weeks i since the massive 7.8 quake crushed the lives of these people. the aftershocks have killed many more. rebuilding lives will take time. dr malcolm russelljoins us now. good morning. welcome back home. it must be a relief to get back after going through all that. you have been to earthquake zones before. i do ever seen anything on this scale? no, i hadn't, to be honest. i had been to the earthquake in new zealand, in christchurch, and the tsunami in 2011, and nepal in 2015. at the scale of these was just incredibly vast. we train uncertain collapsed building structures. it was like that and another thousand.
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a whole city in devastation. ianthem was like that and another thousand. a whole city in devastation. when we soke to a whole city in devastation. when we spoke to you — a whole city in devastation. when we spoke to you last _ a whole city in devastation. when we spoke to you last time _ a whole city in devastation. when we spoke to you last time you _ a whole city in devastation. when we spoke to you last time you told i a whole city in devastation. when we spoke to you last time you told us i spoke to you last time you told us about the rescue of a man who had beenin about the rescue of a man who had been in the rubble for five days. for those people who did come out after a lengthy amount of time being underneath all of that, what is the prognosis like for them? how much danger were they in command how much care do they need once they are out? well, when someone is buried for that length of time, a lot depends on their physiology. thirst is a major issue, lack of water. the temperature was reasonably ok. and of course people were in their beds, so they had some thermal protection. whether they have been compounded by significant trauma, obviously that comes into it. because in terms of survivability, if someone is entombed, trapped in a space but not injured, they have a greater prospect of doing well. just looking at these pictures _
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prospect of doing well. just looking at these pictures here, _ prospect of doing well. just looking at these pictures here, you - prospect of doing well. just looking at these pictures here, you got i prospect of doing well. just looking at these pictures here, you got so i at these pictures here, you got so much footage from so much work, but can you remember this particular case? . , ., can you remember this particular case? ., i. can you remember this particular case? ., , , , case? yeah, you can see my nursing colleague. — case? yeah, you can see my nursing colleague, deborah _ case? yeah, you can see my nursing colleague, deborah swann, - case? yeah, you can see my nursing colleague, deborah swann, and i case? yeah, you can see my nursing colleague, deborah swann, and a i colleague, deborah swann, and a small medical team just reviewing a patient. he had his leg trapped. it was under a concrete block for three to four days. once we had extricated him, this was a reasonable working space, he was in its outer space, we got out to this position. then we had to lower him down about ten, 12 feet into a corridor to get him out of the building. at this point we have now got the space to review him, give him some more pain relief, check his observations, before working out how we are going to extricate him and lower him down safely. extricate him and lower him down safel . �* , extricate him and lower him down safely-_ yes- - extricate him and lower him down safely-_ yes- i - extricate him and lower him down safely._ yes. i don't safely. and he is ok? yes. i don't have a follow _ safely. and he is ok? yes. i don't have a follow up _ safely. and he is ok? yes. i don't have a follow up on _ safely. and he is ok? yes. i don't have a follow up on this _ safely. and he is ok? yes. i don't have a follow up on this particularj have a follow up on this particular patient. but he came out alive. he
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was in reasonably good shape. he unfortunately may lose his leg from the catastrophic damage that was done. but to get him out, to get him hydrated and into hospital, was a real achievement, actually. you also rescued a man _ real achievement, actually. you also rescued a man and _ real achievement, actually. you also rescued a man and a _ real achievement, actually. you also rescued a man and a woman - real achievement, actually. you also rescued a man and a woman in i real achievement, actually. you also rescued a man and a woman in a i rescued a man and a woman in a hotel. , ., , ., hotel. tell us about them? these two eo - le hotel. tell us about them? these two people have — hotel. tell us about them? these two people have been _ hotel. tell us about them? these two people have been in _ hotel. tell us about them? these two people have been in a _ hotel. tell us about them? these two people have been in a hotel— hotel. tell us about them? these two people have been in a hotel that i hotel. tell us about them? these two people have been in a hotel that had i people have been in a hotel that had collapsed. it was on friday, leading into five days after the earthquake. our team, we are a 77 person strong team and four dogs, were searching the area. they had been back to do a final check on a building and heard a voice, heard some tapping. then located them. it was really all hands to the pump. the whole team then worked for about 18, 20 hours before we could get access to them. once we'd got to them, they were still badly trapped. a lady came out
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first. the gentleman had a beam across his legs. we had to spend about five hours, when we got to him, breaking it up to release him. and of course we provided medical support through that. it was a huge team effort. a bit like a relay race. everybody working flat out. in those close confines, people work hard for ten to 15 minutes, and then rotate. there is only room for one person every time. so everyone was in there breaking up to space. breaking debris and contrary to get into. j breaking debris and contrary to get into. . . breaking debris and contrary to get into. ., ., ., ., “ breaking debris and contrary to get into. ., ., ., ., ~ i. into. i am in all of the work you do. it's incredible. _ into. i am in all of the work you do. it's incredible. we - into. i am in all of the work you do. it's incredible. we have i into. i am in all of the work you i do. it's incredible. we have been reporting in the past couple of days about there being more air strikes. so when you are in those buildings, deep underground trying to rescue people, you know there is a risk that if there is another tremor you could be in even greater danger. that is true. we rely on training experience and our colleagues. and our huge collective experience and
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what we do. it might look dangerous, but we plan our route again as safely as we can. we take appropriate risks. but we look for where we might shelter. you can see aftershocks there.— aftershocks there. looking at the conditions here, _ aftershocks there. looking at the conditions here, the _ aftershocks there. looking at the conditions here, the spaces i aftershocks there. looking at the conditions here, the spaces are i conditions here, the spaces are tiny, the debris is piled up. yeah, it is uuite tiny, the debris is piled up. yeah, it is quite a _ tiny, the debris is piled up. yeah, it is quite a squeeze, _ tiny, the debris is piled up. yeah, it is quite a squeeze, some i tiny, the debris is piled up. yeah, it is quite a squeeze, some of i tiny, the debris is piled up. yeah, i it is quite a squeeze, some of these gaps, to actually get through. then we have to look out for the patient at the other end. and then, of course, once we do have them free, we have to work out how we are going to get them out. so, crawl into these places. then look at how we can get them onto a stretcher and navigate them back out again. j can get them onto a stretcher and navigate them back out again. i know that ou navigate them back out again. i know that you have — navigate them back out again. i know that you have been _ navigate them back out again. i know that you have been contacted, - navigate them back out again. i know that you have been contacted, a i that you have been contacted, a person that he rescue to you down and found you on twitter, is that right? and found you on twitter, is that riuht? , a,
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and found you on twitter, is that riuht? , c, c, right? yes. that last gentleman you saw. i right? yes. that last gentleman you saw- i believe _ right? yes. that last gentleman you saw. i believe that _ right? yes. that last gentleman you saw. i believe that him. _ right? yes. that last gentleman you saw. i believe that him. very - saw. i believe that him. very limited contact, but he posted on twitter, basically saying, thanks very much for what you did. here we no. which very much for what you did. here we 90- which is — very much for what you did. here we go. which is nice _ very much for what you did. here we go. which is nice to _ very much for what you did. here we go. which is nice to hear. _ very much for what you did. here we go. which is nice to hear. often - very much for what you did. here we go. which is nice to hear. often a i go. which is nice to hear. often a atient, go. which is nice to hear. often a patient. when _ go. which is nice to hear. often a patient, when you _ go. which is nice to hear. often a patient, when you have _ go. which is nice to hear. often a patient, when you have handed . go. which is nice to hear. often a - patient, when you have handed them overin patient, when you have handed them over in a situation like this, they are lost in the system. malcolm, you are lost in the system. malcolm, you are my hero. — are lost in the system. malcolm, you are my hero, thank— are lost in the system. malcolm, you are my hero, thank you _ are lost in the system. malcolm, you are my hero, thank you so _ are lost in the system. malcolm, you are my hero, thank you so much, - are lost in the system. malcolm, you. are my hero, thank you so much, take care. , ., care. the first thing i would say is, this care. the first thing i would say is. this is _ care. the first thing i would say is. this is a _ care. the first thing i would say is, this is a huge _ care. the first thing i would say is, this is a huge team. - care. the first thing i would say is, this is a huge team. it - care. the first thing i would say is, this is a huge team. it is - care. the first thing i would say l is, this is a huge team. it is great to have a message like that. but we don't see it in those terms of heroics. we are a professional organisation. we train for this. we chose to work in that environment. our patients should just expect a decent standard of care and that is what we try to provide. we decent standard of care and that is what we try to provide.— what we try to provide. we should stress that — what we try to provide. we should stress that when _ what we try to provide. we should stress that when you _ what we try to provide. we should stress that when you go _ what we try to provide. we should stress that when you go out - what we try to provide. we should stress that when you go out to - stress that when you go out to turkey, or a song like this, you are self—sufficient, you do not rely on resources, you take your own keita?
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absolutely. our team is self—sufficient. we are a un classified heavy rescue team. 77 people and be dogs, we can be self—sufficient for ten days. we take our own food and water. we put in requests for vehicles and fuel, probably the only things that we require. but the aim is not to impact on the affected country more than we need to.— than we need to. finally, one quick cuestion. than we need to. finally, one quick question- for— than we need to. finally, one quick question. for all— than we need to. finally, one quick question. for all these _ than we need to. finally, one quick question. for all these images - than we need to. finally, one quick question. for all these images we | question. for all these images we are seeing, everyone i know, it takes them back and they get claustrophobic. how do you do —— how do you handle that mentally? we train do you handle that mentally? , train really hard. we have amazing support from our headquarters in merseyside. we run regular exercises. we get used to doing it. for us as a medical team, wejust try to do the right thing for the patient. try to do the right thing for the atient. ., ., ., ., ,., ., patient. you have got more important thins on patient. you have got more important things on your — patient. you have got more important things on your mind. _ patient. you have got more important things on your mind. yes, _ patient. you have got more important things on your mind. yes, often - patient. you have got more important things on your mind. yes, often what| things on your mind. yes, often what we do is very — things on your mind. yes, often what we do is very simple _ things on your mind. yes, often what we do is very simple but _ things on your mind. yes, often what we do is very simple but it _ things on your mind. yes, often what we do is very simple but it is - things on your mind. yes, often what we do is very simple but it is the - we do is very simple but it is the simple things that make a
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difference, hopefully. well, they have made _ difference, hopefully. well, they have made a _ difference, hopefully. well, they have made a difference. - difference, hopefully. well, they have made a difference. you - difference, hopefully. well, they. have made a difference. you must difference, hopefully. well, they- have made a difference. you must be massively proud of your team. the medical team. _ massively proud of your team. mg; medical team, the massively proud of your team. tug; medical team, the fire massively proud of your team. tug; medicalteam, the fire and massively proud of your team. tug; medical team, the fire and rescue service that were with us, the whole team. we are part of a big organisation. i'm very honoured to be part of that. organisation. i'm very honoured to be part of that-— be part of that. well done. thanks so much for— be part of that. well done. thanks so much for coming _ be part of that. well done. thanks so much for coming in _ be part of that. well done. thanks so much for coming in and - be part of that. well done. thanks i so much for coming in and explaining a bit more. it is only when we see it here and talk to you in person that we get an understanding of what it was like. thank you. breakfast is on bbc one until a quarter—past nine, when morning live takes over. we can find out what they have planned. good morning. absolutely fascinating hearing from doctor malcolm and the brilliant work orchy team do. —— his team do. coming up on morning live, as a winter of sky high bills comes to an end, there's no spring thaw in sight for our finances with energy, broadband and council tax bills set to rise again. the jump is just six weeks away, matt allwright tells us
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what to do right now to prepare. it might be called april fools day, but the first will be _ no laughing matter. i'll explain how to claim support, including a £200 payment- that's landing in millions of bank accounts this month. i and rising costs means rising crime. rav wilding investigates how scammers are charging for loans that don't exist. he talks to a lender that's seen a 900% increase, to find out how you can spot the con. also on the show, dr oscar's got his finger on the pulse of the health headlines. i'll sort fact from fiction, - and tell you if there's a magic time of the day to exercise, . and if a pill has been invented to cure the dreaded hangover. plus, as mortgage rates finally drop below li%, jacqui joseph has her top tips for selling your home in an instant. she almost got taken out by a camera there! actor felicity montagu tells us why the whole family
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can enjoy her new bbc drama beyond paradise. and nancy xu's back for another round of strictly fitness. see you at 9:15. that's everything. that's enough! that's everything. that's enough! that's plenty! thank you. malcolm russell, who was just here, as that's plenty! thank you. malcolm russell, who wasjust here, as he was leaving he told us they have no impact all their stuff, they have cleaned it up. then they repack it and they are ready to go. we said to him, what next? he said, whatever happens, we go there. ready to go again. incredible. i would argue with him saying they are not heroes. i think they are. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london, i'mjim wheble. the head of the metropolitan police is calling for a pay award for his officers that's close to the current rate of inflation of io.i%. sir mark rowley said that sort of increase must come
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with additional government funding otherwise the met will be forced to have fewer officers. the government wants a 3.5% increase for almost all public sector workers for the next financial year. counter—terror officers are investigating threatening letters sent to an activist and tv presenter. the letters claim to come from a banned neo—nazi group and were sent to india willoughby, who is transgender, and dr shola mos—shogbamimu who said a death threat was posted through her front door. the met said they contained "vile language and threats". no arrests have yet been made. friday marks one year since the russian invasion of ukraine and shortly after that of course hundreds of londoners opened their doors to refugees fleeing the conflict. celia and her husband steve from leyton were one such to family to help out.
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they took in anastasia's family who they had met before on a visit to ukraine in 2005. we hadn't met anastasia's partner or son, and suddenly, they're here, and nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow. they really help us with everything. so, with the school, celia helped me with some stuff with the council. let's take a look at the tubes now. there's a good service on most of the tubes this morning, although the district line is part suspended between turnham green and richmond due to a signal failure. and the bakerloo line, and jubillee line, have minor delays. now onto the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello there, good morning. it's been a very dry month so far across the capital. mild and springlike too over the last few days but changes are afoot. there is some wet weather in the forecast to come over the next couple of days,
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and there will also be a drop in temperature before high pressure builds back in as we head through the weekend. for this morning, a frost free start to the day. there is some cloud, some outbreaks of mostly light, patchy rain and drizzle. on and off throughout the day but it won't be raining all the time. there will be lots of long dry spells about as well and the wind turns a bit more north—westerly. temperatures on a par with yesterday, could be nine to 10 degrees celsius for most of us. so for most of us, cooler feeling air digging in behind that cold front, maybe some clear spells for a time it will be a chilly start to the day on thursday. but again with some outbreaks of rain and plenty of cloud. that's all set to clear away to leave us with some sunshine as we go through thursday afternoon but also a rather chilly northerly wind. again, perhaps a passing shower on friday. that's it from me, there's a nice story on our facebook page about nine—year—old henry newman from east london who's had his first book published but for now back to sally and jon.
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hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. asda and morrisons have introduced restrictions on the amount of fruit and vegetables customers can buy, after a shortage in some products including salad, peppers and tomatoes. so good luck if you are going to the shops this morning! where is the
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hold—up, what is going on? it's a different picture on the supermarket shelves from the rest of us. we have not no shelves from the rest of us. we have got no shortages _ shelves from the rest of us. we have got no shortages here. _ shelves from the rest of us. we have got no shortages here. this - shelves from the rest of us. we have got no shortages here. this is - shelves from the rest of us. we have got no shortages here. this isjust i got no shortages here. this isjust one stall, one of the wholesalers. people at home will have noticed in their local supermarket, perhaps empty shelves, and the main reason behind it is the bad weather from spain and morocco. there is a shortage of supply and that is why you will have seen the empty supermarket shelves. let's speak to one of the wholesalers here stop how much is a box gone up? it one of the wholesalers here stop how much is a box gone up?— much is a box gone up? it has doubled. _ much is a box gone up? it has doubled, from _ much is a box gone up? it has doubled, from £5 _ much is a box gone up? it has doubled, from £5 £10. - much is a box gone up? it has doubled, from £5 £10. you . much is a box gone up? it has| doubled, from £5 £10. you got
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len , doubled, from £5 £10. you got plenty. so _ doubled, from £5 £10. you got plenty. so why _ doubled, from £5 £10. you got plenty, so why have _ doubled, from £5 £10. you got plenty, so why have people - doubled, from £5 £10. you got| plenty, so why have people not doubled, from £5 £10. you got - plenty, so why have people not got any in the supermarkets? in plenty, so why have people not got any in the supermarkets?— any in the supermarkets? in the bearinnin any in the supermarkets? in the beginning when _ any in the supermarkets? in the beginning when the _ any in the supermarkets? in the beginning when the price - any in the supermarkets? in the beginning when the price goes l any in the supermarkets? in the i beginning when the price goes up, any in the supermarkets? in the beginning when the price goes up, it was very— beginning when the price goes up, it was very difficult for us, customers said they— was very difficult for us, customers said they would come to the supermarket to get it half of the money — supermarket to get it half of the money. but now supermarkets have put restrictions_ money. but now supermarkets have put restrictions on, they will come back to the _ restrictions on, they will come back to the market. so restrictions on, they will come back to the market-— to the market. so it is the small independent _ to the market. so it is the small independent grocers _ to the market. so it is the small independent grocers who - to the market. so it is the small independent grocers who are i to the market. so it is the small- independent grocers who are buying from you, they are paying you more. supermarket prices is a contract price _ supermarket prices is a contract price and — supermarket prices is a contract price and not the right money. that is wh ou price and not the right money. that is why you will _ price and not the right money. that is why you will he _ price and not the right money. trust is why you will he see it in independent shops at a higher price. the shortage in supermarkets was so extreme that asda and morrisons are limiting how many items of fresh fruit and veg each customer can buy at a time when food prices are high. it is a problem for many households. prices are really high, if there is a lack of supply, presumably that pushesit a lack of supply, presumably that pushes it higher? it a lack of supply, presumably that pushes it higher?— pushes it higher? it will do, i think it is _ pushes it higher? it will do, i think it is important, - pushes it higher? it will do, i think it is important, one i pushes it higher? it will do, i l think it is important, one item pushes it higher? it will do, i i think it is important, one item in six in— think it is important, one item in six ina— think it is important, one item in six in a supermarket trolley is
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fruit. — six in a supermarket trolley is fruit. veg _ six in a supermarket trolley is fruit, veg or salad and prices were already— fruit, veg or salad and prices were already going up before this shortage. the price of a cucumber was up _ shortage. the price of a cucumber was up 42%. — shortage. the price of a cucumber was up 42%, the price of a kilo of potatoes— was up 42%, the price of a kilo of potatoes was up 22%. these prices are hitting — potatoes was up 22%. these prices are hitting pupils budgets when they are hitting pupils budgets when they are spending £500 per year on fruit and veg _ are spending £500 per year on fruit and vet. ., ., ., , and veg. there are other factors affectin: and veg. there are other factors affecting the _ and veg. there are other factors affecting the price _ and veg. there are other factors affecting the price of— and veg. there are other factors affecting the price of food i affecting the price of food including high energy prices. any sign when food prices might slow down or even level off or dare i say it come down in price?— down or even level off or dare i say it come down in price? yes, energy rices it come down in price? yes, energy prices bleed _ it come down in price? yes, energy prices bleed into _ it come down in price? yes, energy prices bleed into every _ it come down in price? yes, energy prices bleed into every part - it come down in price? yes, energy prices bleed into every part of i it come down in price? yes, energy prices bleed into every part of the i prices bleed into every part of the snooty— prices bleed into every part of the supply chain so it is fertiliser, diesel. — supply chain so it is fertiliser, diesel, distribution to get it to a place _ diesel, distribution to get it to a place like — diesel, distribution to get it to a place like this. at the moment we are not— place like this. at the moment we are not seeing the rate of inflation slowing, _ are not seeing the rate of inflation slowing, it — are not seeing the rate of inflation slowing, it has gone up in the last month _ slowing, it has gone up in the last month i— slowing, it has gone up in the last month. i don't think these shortages will heln _ month. i don't think these shortages will help. we do think inflation will help. we do think inflation will fold — will help. we do think inflation will fold this year but that doesn't mean _ will fold this year but that doesn't mean the — will fold this year but that doesn't mean the prices will fall, just that they will— mean the prices will fall, just that they will go up at a less quick rate — they will go up at a less quick rate. �* . ~ they will go up at a less quick rate. �* ., ,, ., rate. and whenever we talk about thin . s like rate. and whenever we talk about things like shortages, _
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rate. and whenever we talk about things like shortages, i— rate. and whenever we talk about things like shortages, i get i rate. and whenever we talk about i things like shortages, i get e-mails things like shortages, i get e—mails saying, talking about it, you're just making the situation worse. let me finish with one thought, by what you would normally buy, don't overstock up because especially with fresh fruit and produce, it will go off before you can get through it and it is no good to you or anyone else. . , , and it is no good to you or anyone else, ,, , , ., . and it is no good to you or anyone else. ,, , , ., . ., else. sensible advice, we will not e-mailyou. _ else. sensible advice, we will not e-mailyou, promise! _ else. sensible advice, we will not e-mailyou, promise! but- else. sensible advice, we will not e-mailyou, promise! but if- else. sensible advice, we will not e-mailyou, promise! but if you | else. sensible advice, we will not i e-mailyou, promise! but if you can brina us e-mailyou, promise! but if you can bring us back— e-mailyou, promise! but if you can bring us back some _ e-mailyou, promise! but if you can bring us back some of _ e-mailyou, promise! but if you can bring us back some of those - bring us back some of those tomatoes, we will appreciate it. thank you very much. birthdays are always best when you celebrate them with friends, and for d—day veteran ken and code—breaker margaret, this weekend was a very special occassion. they met through the charity, blind veterans uk, and discovered that not only were they born on the same day and they were both turning 100 at the weekend. their families arranged a special video call during their birthday parties so they could wish each other many happy returns. abi smitton reports. # happy birthday to you
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happy birthday to you # happy birthday... from opposite ends of the country, friends ken and margaret are celebrating their centenaries. born on the same day 100 years ago. hello, ken. hello, hello. nice seeing you again. nice seeing you. never thought we'd reach this age together. ken and margaret both served in world war two. margaret was a code—breaker working at bletchley park. i've never told anybody, not even my family, don't even know the coding that we used. and nobody else has said anything because it would have been up. i've seen where they've put different things up that's come up and it's never come up yet. and i know they haven't got it because their historians
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are trying their hardest to get it out of me and i'll not tell them. ken was in the army. he fought on d—day, landing on sword beach. the first one, they run up the beach. and the french, little french man on the top of the beach and he said, "hello, tommy, i knew you'd come back one day." when you look back and think how near you was to death, you know, back here today, 100 years old, it don't seem real. it was a chance meeting that led to ken and margaret becoming friends and finding out that they shared a birthday. he was on the next table to me and we're talking across to one another and he says, "when were you born, margaret?" and i says, oh, and then he started
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telling me when he was. and then we worked it all out and he was born on the same day as me. and i thought, "oh, that's nice." so after that, we've got plenty to talk about. and he said that it didn't know what the weather was like on the day he was born. i says, "well, i do, it snowed!" they met through blind veterans uk, the charity for former service people suffering with sight loss. i think that speaks to the camaraderie of our veterans and our members. it's not a surprise. they have some amazing times together and the fact that they're able to celebrate, for two of our blind veterans to celebrate their 100th birthday is not extraordinary, but it is quite wonderful. grandad? hello! this is from all your grandchildren. we've all got together. and done you a present. surrounded by grandkids and great grandkids... 0h, gracious me! ken and margaret were the stars of the show. as well as matching parties, singers and cake, ken and margaret both received birthday cards from the king.
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i wasn't bothered until it came, and i'm like, ooh! a little heart flutter. cheering. my wife and i are so pleased to know that you are celebrating your 100th birthday. even after the party is wrapped up, there was reason to continue celebrating. the birth of ken's newest great grandson. 100 years to the day after ken and margaret. bye, ken, happy birthday! bye! abi smitton, bbc news. we love that story, it's really lovely. ijust begging to the reporter, literally on the phone. we have a name for the baby —— i have just spoken to the reporter. he is
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called sonny. just spoken to the reporter. he is called sonny-— just spoken to the reporter. he is called sonn . ., , called sonny. good morning, sonny! ken and margaret _ called sonny. good morning, sonny! ken and margaret upstaged - called sonny. good morning, sonny! ken and margaret upstaged on i called sonny. good morning, sonny! ken and margaret upstaged on their| ken and margaret upstaged on their 100th birthday!— 100th birthday! liverpool was u sta . ed 100th birthday! liverpool was unstaged last _ 100th birthday! liverpool was upstaged last night. - 100th birthday! liverpool was upstaged last night. yes, i 100th birthday! liverpoolwas| upstaged last night. yes, they 100th birthday! liverpoolwas- upstaged last night. yes, they were on a mini revival— upstaged last night. yes, they were on a mini revival but _ upstaged last night. yes, they were on a mini revival but it _ upstaged last night. yes, they were on a mini revival but it seems i upstaged last night. yes, they were on a mini revival but it seems to i upstaged last night. yes, they were on a mini revival but it seems to be| on a mini revival but it seems to be all over. it on a mini revival but it seems to be all over. , ., ., ., , all over. it is not all over, it is real madrid. _ all over. it is not all over, it is real madrid. yedlin _ all over. it is not all over, it is real madrid. yedlin klopp i all over. it is not all over, it is real madrid. yedlin klopp has all over. it is not all over, it is i real madrid. yedlin klopp has said, he thinks their— real madrid. yedlin klopp has said, he thinks their european _ real madrid. yedlin klopp has said, he thinks their european dreams i real madrid. yedlin klopp has said, | he thinks their european dreams are over. ——juergen klopp. trying to qualify for next year's champions league, back in the premier league. where from here after the club's worst european defeat? it looked so different when darwen nunez put them ahead, before mo salah added a second. but madrid were merciless, level. viniciusjunior with a huge helping hand for his second as real pulled level. there were three more in the second half, 5—2 they lost.
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their european dreams in tatters, leaving jurgen klopp to accept the ties over. i think carlo thinks the tie is over. and i think it as well, in the moment. but in three weeks, that's how it is in these moments. the closer you get to the game, the bigger our chances become. and the less likely the tie is over. but tonight, with the 5—2, and you see the game and it's like, well, they are pretty good in counterattacking, we have to score there three goals. so take some risks and that could be a bit tricky. not easy in a stadium where real madrid had not lost this season. manchester city will hope to fair better against rb leipzig in germany tonight. and there's a trophy on the line for england too. sarina wiegman's side looking to retain the arnold clark cup, when they take on belgium in a winner takes all. 28 match unbeaten run they're on now, ahead of the world cup to come this summer. we want to win the tournament. this whole tournament, all that we
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do right now is to get ready and be ready for the 22nd ofjuly when the world cup starts. but ready for the 22nd ofjuly when the world cup starts.— ready for the 22nd ofjuly when the world cup starts. but we also want to win the tournament. _ world cup starts. but we also want to win the tournament. but - world cup starts. but we also want to win the tournament. but every l to win the tournament. but every game we play, we want to win. but we want to see many players. whoever is on the pitch, goes on the pitch to win the game. it’s on the pitch, goes on the pitch to win the game-— win the game. it's all about momentum. _ win the game. it's all about momentum, that's - win the game. it's all about momentum, that's what i win the game. it's all about i momentum, that's what they win the game. it's all about - momentum, that's what they want, maintaining momentum. you collect another trophy, and then it is shaking up nicely for the world cup. she has obviously got that date marked on the calendar. thank you very much indeed. let's go to the weather now with matt. yes, we were talking about the conditions in spain and morocco which have impacted the fruit and veg, a big area of high pressure has been stubbornly sitting over much of europe, the great part of this year. france has had its longest dry spell
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on record, remarkable considering it is the winter. it has had an impact on water levels in italy as well, look at the venice canals, it has stopped some of the gondolas from getting around. that whole area of high pressure has caused rain bearing areas of low pressure to come in and it has been diverted to north africa so in morocco we have had strong winds and bring supplies and producing rain and snow. that will continue into next week. back to our shores, it will brighten up with some in the north and west, you can see the satellite, a lot of cloud elsewhere. outbreaks of rain quite widely which is starting to fragment into slightly more showery conditions. it will remain damp and drizzly around eastern areas. the rain is easing a little bit in eastern scotland and will continue to do so. sunny conditions, a few
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showers around, showered through parts of wales, drifting towards the south—west. we will see some outbreaks of rain returned to northern england later. eastern areas will stay cloudy, wet and areas will stay cloudy, wet and areas drier and brighter. cooler than in recent days, temperatures back to where they should be, 79 degrees. and tonight pretty chilly, rain at times pushes —— 7—9. tonight pretty chilly, rain at times, and we will see some ice tomorrow morning. iam i am looking at the wind there the atlantic. because that is relevant to the next story. we've all found ourselves a bit lost on the way home before but nothing quite like a homing—pigeon called bob, who took a wrong turn and ended up aooo—miles away from his loft. bob went missing during a race from the channel isles to tyneside last year and turned up weeks later in the united states. now, his travels have been made into an illustrated book. andrew hartley has more.
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howya, bob. yourfriends are here to see you again. he just might be the most famous racing pigeon in the world. seven months on from his detour across the atlantic, bob's back home, blissfully unaware that his adventure has been immortalized in print. well, the illustrations just speak for themselves. they just jump out at you. i think it's so easy flowing right the way through the book. it tells the story from start to finish. and i think the kids will look at it like, and we've to keep the story as true as it comes. to me, it brings the story to life again. it couldn't have been any better, in my opinion. the author and illustrator is an old pal from the north—east, now living in spain. i'm really, really excited about it. the buzz and the hype so far has been lovely. everybody i know is calling and sending messages. the pictures tell their own story, but the words just cement it.
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sol needed something pretty — pretty picture to go along with pretty words, basically. and what a story. bob's epic trip started in guernsey in the channel islands. his 400 mile race back to winlaton was expected to take no more than ten hours. instead, he took a wrong turn, probably hitching a ride on a ship, and ended up 4000 miles away in the small town of monroeville, alabama. so what next for bob — a movie or tv series? we'd love to see something for the children, a little series or something, or a little movie. obviously, if the interest�*s there. ijust wish the pigeon could talk. the book's said to be flying off the shelves, with two more adventures already drawn and written. as for bob, well, his racing days are over. instead, alan has very different plans for him. he's done his hit. he's now going to have a good life.
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as it stands now, he's going to just breed. he's in your mind all the time. if anything happened to him, i don't know what i'd feel like. a fitting new life for a bird who's clocked up more than his fair share ofair miles. andrew hartley, bbc news. it's so good that bob and alan are reunited. ., ., , ., , , ., reunited. you are probably wondering wh we are reunited. you are probably wondering why we are in — reunited. you are probably wondering why we are in front _ reunited. you are probably wondering why we are in front of— reunited. you are probably wondering why we are in front of some - reunited. you are probably wondering why we are in front of some lemons. | why we are in front of some lemons. this is not about shortages! the average person uses more than 123—million—words in their lifetime but what if you could only say 140 words each day? you would struggle! he would really struggle! that's the subject of new romantic comedy play lemons lemons lemons lemons lemons, starring aidan turner and jenna coleman as married couple oliver and bernadette. they join us now.
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morning. do we need to explain lemons lemons _ morning. do we need to explain lemons lemons lemons - morning. do we need to explain l lemons lemons lemons lemons morning. do we need to explain - lemons lemons lemons lemons lemons morning. do we need to explain _ lemons lemons lemons lemons lemons a little bit? . ., , ._ , lemons lemons lemons lemons lemons a little bit? . ., , , ., little bit? what the play is about itself? sure! _ little bit? what the play is about itself? sure! so, _ little bit? what the play is about itself? sure! so, bernadette i little bit? what the play is about| itself? sure! so, bernadette and oliver_ itself? sure! so, bernadette and oliverare— itself? sure! so, bernadette and oliver are together— itself? sure! so, bernadette and oliver are together for— itself? sure! so, bernadette and oliver are together for a - itself? sure! so, bernadette and oliver are together for a numberj itself? sure! so, bernadette and i oliver are together for a number of years— oliver are together for a number of years when— oliver are together for a number of years when a — oliver are together for a number of years when a piece _ oliver are together for a number of years when a piece of— oliver are together for a number of years when a piece of legislation i oliver are together for a number of years when a piece of legislation is| years when a piece of legislation is passed _ years when a piece of legislation is passed where _ years when a piece of legislation is passed where everybody— years when a piece of legislation is passed where everybody in - years when a piece of legislation is passed where everybody in the i passed where everybody in the country — passed where everybody in the country can _ passed where everybody in the country can only _ passed where everybody in the country can only speak- passed where everybody in the country can only speak 140 i passed where everybody in the i country can only speak 140 words passed where everybody in the - country can only speak 140 words per day to— country can only speak 140 words per day to speak — country can only speak 140 words per day to speak so _ country can only speak 140 words per day to speak. so this _ country can only speak 140 words per day to speak. so this is _ country can only speak 140 words per day to speak. so this is a _ country can only speak 140 words per day to speak. so this is a study - country can only speak 140 words per day to speak. so this is a study of i day to speak. so this is a study of their— day to speak. so this is a study of their relationship— day to speak. so this is a study of their relationship over _ day to speak. so this is a study of their relationship over six - day to speak. so this is a study of their relationship over six years, i their relationship over six years, three _ their relationship over six years, three years _ their relationship over six years, three years before _ three years before the limit and three years after. _ three years before the limit and three years after. 50, _ three years before the limit and three years after.— three years after. so, getting twitter vibes _ three years after. so, getting twitter vibes here, _ three years after. so, getting twitter vibes here, 140 i three years after. 50, getting - twitter vibes here, 140 characters are used to be?— twitter vibes here, 140 characters are used to be? yes, i suppose so. but it is like _ are used to be? yes, i suppose so. but it is like they _ are used to be? yes, i suppose so. but it is like they are _ are used to be? yes, i suppose so. but it is like they are physically - but it is like they are physically unable — but it is like they are physically unable to— but it is like they are physically unable to speak after that. sol guess— unable to speak after that. sol guess you _ unable to speak after that. sol guess you see the breakdown of their relationship to a certain extent and you see _ relationship to a certain extent and you see how they begin to communicate and what they choose to say and _ communicate and what they choose to say and not _ communicate and what they choose to say and not say. sometimes they have five words _ say and not say. sometimes they have five words and can say the most profound — five words and can say the most profound thing to each other or other— profound thing to each other or other times they have an argument and they— other times they have an argument and they physically cannot. they can
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choose not to _ and they physically cannot. they can choose not to have _ and they physically cannot. they can choose not to have the _ and they physically cannot. they can choose not to have the argument. choose not to have the argument because — choose not to have the argument because they _ choose not to have the argument because they are _ choose not to have the argument because they are not _ choose not to have the argument because they are not going - choose not to have the argument because they are not going to - choose not to have the argument l because they are not going to have enough _ because they are not going to have enough words _ because they are not going to have enough words left. _ because they are not going to have enough words left. 50 _ because they are not going to have enough words left.— enough words left. so is it about communication, _ enough words left. so is it about communication, is _ enough words left. so is it about communication, is it _ enough words left. so is it about communication, is it about - enough words left. so is it about communication, is it about howl enough words left. so is it about. communication, is it about how to communicate and help may be communicate and help may he sometimes wed get you into trouble? yeah, i think it's about —— words can get— yeah, i think it's about —— words can get you _ yeah, i think it's about —— words can get you into trouble? yes, it's about— can get you into trouble? yes, it's about the — can get you into trouble? yes, it's about the study of a relationship over six— about the study of a relationship over six years and by bringing in this concept you see certain things highlighted and distilled. what we have been getting a lot from the audience — have been getting a lot from the audience is that it feels very much like a _ audience is that it feels very much like a mirror— audience is that it feels very much like a mirror image, there is a lot reflected — like a mirror image, there is a lot reflected back.— like a mirror image, there is a lot reflected back. it really makes you think, reflected back. it really makes you think. what — reflected back. it really makes you think, what would _ reflected back. it really makes you think, what would you _ reflected back. it really makes you think, what would you say - reflected back. it really makes you think, what would you say if - reflected back. it really makes you think, what would you say if you i reflected back. it really makes you i think, what would you say if you had a limit? and a cut—off point? how does it work, does that mean you never have more than 140 words at a time to speak? in never have more than 140 words at a time to speak?— never have more than 140 words at a | time to speak?_ a time to speak? in each scene, yes. a lot of the scenes _ time to speak? in each scene, yes. a lot of the scenes are _ time to speak? in each scene, yes. a lot of the scenes are before - time to speak? in each scene, yes. a lot of the scenes are before the - lot of the scenes are before the limit _ lot of the scenes are before the limit so — lot of the scenes are before the limit so we _ lot of the scenes are before the limit so we can— lot of the scenes are before the limit so we can freely— lot of the scenes are before the limit so we can freely speak - lot of the scenes are before the limit so we can freely speak sol lot of the scenes are before the i limit so we can freely speak so it is not _ limit so we can freely speak so it is notiust— limit so we can freely speak so it is notiust140 _ limit so we can freely speak so it is notjust 140 words! _ limit so we can freely speak so it is notjust140 words!— limit so we can freely speak so it is notjust140 words! is not 'ust140 words! really easy to is notjust140 words! really easy to learn your _ is notjust140 words! really easy to learn your lines! _
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is notjust140 words! really easy to learn your lines! it's _ is notjust140 words! really easy to learn your lines! it's great, - is notjust140 words! really easy to learn your lines! it's great, we| to learn your lines! it's great, we seak to learn your lines! it's great, we speak five _ to learn your lines! it's great, we speak five words _ to learn your lines! it's great, we speak five words in _ to learn your lines! it's great, we speak five words in a _ to learn your lines! it's great, we speak five words in a narrow - speak five words in a narrow neverhas! _ speak five words in a narrow neverhasl— speak five words in a narrow neverhas! ., , ., ., , , speak five words in a narrow neverhas! ., , ., ., ,, ., neverhas! you start ad-libbing and the director _ neverhas! you start ad-libbing and the director is _ neverhas! you start ad-libbing and the director is like, _ neverhas! you start ad-libbing and the director is like, hang _ neverhas! you start ad-libbing and the director is like, hang on - neverhas! you start ad-libbing and the director is like, hang on a - the director is like, hang on a minute! . , . the director is like, hang on a minute! ., , ., , ., the director is like, hang on a minute! . , ., , ., ~' the director is like, hang on a minute! .,, ., i. ,, ., minute! has it made you think about our own minute! has it made you think about your own relationships _ minute! has it made you think about your own relationships and _ minute! has it made you think about your own relationships and how - minute! has it made you think about your own relationships and how you | your own relationships and how you interact? _ your own relationships and how you interact? yes, we did so much stuff interact? yes, we did so much stuff in rehearsals— interact? yes, we did so much stuff in rehearsals to understand how it feels _ in rehearsals to understand how it feels to _ in rehearsals to understand how it feels to be — in rehearsals to understand how it feels to be limited under restricted and what _ feels to be limited under restricted and what that does to humans and the psychology _ and what that does to humans and the psychology and they are two very different — psychology and they are two very different characters, how they cope under _ different characters, how they cope under that — different characters, how they cope under that law. i�*m different characters, how they cope under that law.— under that law. i'm looking at this, i imaaine under that law. i'm looking at this, i imagine that _ under that law. i'm looking at this, i imagine that if _ under that law. i'm looking at this, i imagine that if you _ under that law. i'm looking at this, i imagine that if you cannot - under that law. i'm looking at this, i imagine that if you cannot say - i imagine that if you cannot say words, you have to find other ways to communicate with each other. apart from butting heads! i don't know what's _ apart from butting heads! i don't know what's going _ apart from butting heads! i don't know what's going on _ apart from butting heads! i don't know what's going on in - apart from butting heads! i don't know what's going on in that - apart from butting heads! i don't i know what's going on in that scene! what _ know what's going on in that scene! what do _ know what's going on in that scene! what do you — know what's going on in that scene! what do you do? _ know what's going on in that scene! what do you do?— know what's going on in that scene! what do you do? telepathy, clearly! how do we do _ what do you do? telepathy, clearly! how do we do it, _ what do you do? telepathy, clearly! how do we do it, how _ what do you do? telepathy, clearly! how do we do it, how do _ what do you do? telepathy, clearly! how do we do it, how do we - how do we do it, how do we communicate? _ how do we do it, how do we communicate? i— how do we do it, how do we communicate? i guess - how do we do it, how do we | communicate? i guess there how do we do it, how do we - communicate? i guess there are ways of constructing — communicate? i guess there are ways of constructing sentences _ communicate? i guess there are ways of constructing sentences that - communicate? i guess there are ways of constructing sentences that you - of constructing sentences that you don't _ of constructing sentences that you don't use — of constructing sentences that you don't use a — of constructing sentences that you don't use a lot _ of constructing sentences that you don't use a lot of— of constructing sentences that you don't use a lot of words. _ of constructing sentences that you don't use a lot of words. you - of constructing sentences that you don't use a lot of words. you can i don't use a lot of words. you can use fewer— don't use a lot of words. you can
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use fewer words, _ don't use a lot of words. you can use fewer words, but _ don't use a lot of words. you can use fewer words, but its- don't use a lot of words. you can use fewer words, but its any- don't use a lot of words. you can| use fewer words, but its any kind don't use a lot of words. you can i use fewer words, but its any kind of communication, _ use fewer words, but its any kind of communication, it's _ use fewer words, but its any kind of communication, it's not _ use fewer words, but its any kind of communication, it's notjust- use fewer words, but its any kind of communication, it's not just the - communication, it's notjust the words _ communication, it's notjust the words that— communication, it's notjust the words that we _ communication, it's notjust the words that we use, _ communication, it's notjust the words that we use, so - communication, it's notjust the words that we use, so typing. communication, it's not just the| words that we use, so typing and texting _ words that we use, so typing and texting is — words that we use, so typing and texting is the _ words that we use, so typing and texting is the same. _ words that we use, so typing and texting is the same. there - words that we use, so typing and texting is the same. there is - words that we use, so typing and texting is the same. there is a l texting is the same. there is a morse — texting is the same. there is a morse code _ texting is the same. there is a morse code scene. _ texting is the same. there is a morse code scene. we - texting is the same. there is a morse code scene.— texting is the same. there is a morse code scene. we tried to learn morse code scene. we tried to learn morse code- — morse code scene. we tried to learn morse code- it _ morse code scene. we tried to learn morse code. it doesn't _ morse code scene. we tried to learn morse code. it doesn't go _ morse code scene. we tried to learn morse code. it doesn't go very - morse code scene. we tried to learn morse code. it doesn't go very well. i morse code. it doesn't go very well. there are different _ morse code. it doesn't go very well. there are different ways _ morse code. it doesn't go very well. there are different ways of - morse code. it doesn't go very well. there are different ways of doing . there are different ways of doing it. , . ., , ., there are different ways of doing it. ,_, ., there are different ways of doing it. ,f it. restrictions of a different kind, it. restrictions of a different kind. we _ it. restrictions of a different kind. we are _ it. restrictions of a different kind, we are all— it. restrictions of a different kind, we are all thinking - it. restrictions of a different l kind, we are all thinking about it. restrictions of a different - kind, we are all thinking about the pandemic and lockdown, but interestingly this was written before the pandemic?- interestingly this was written before the pandemic? yes, that's what's so interesting _ before the pandemic? yes, that's what's so interesting about - before the pandemic? yes, that's what's so interesting about this i what's so interesting about this play. _ what's so interesting about this play. it— what's so interesting about this play, it was written about eight years _ play, it was written about eight years ago— play, it was written about eight years ago so pre—lockdown, pre—brexit. but you at absolutely cannot _ pre—brexit. but you at absolutely cannot help but make those comparisons but it was before that. and how _ comparisons but it was before that. and how we — comparisons but it was before that. and how we handle those restrictions on relationships. find and how we handle those restrictions on relationships.— on relationships. and how damaging that can be. — on relationships. and how damaging that can be. i _ on relationships. and how damaging that can be, i imagine. _ on relationships. and how damaging that can be, i imagine. yes, - on relationships. and how damaging that can be, i imagine. yes, we - on relationships. and how damaging that can be, i imagine. yes, we see| that can be, i imagine. yes, we see it with oliver _ that can be, i imagine. yes, we see it with oliver and _ that can be, i imagine. yes, we see it with oliver and bernadette, - that can be, i imagine. yes, we see it with oliver and bernadette, they| it with oliver and bernadette, they io it with oliver and bernadette, they go through. — it with oliver and bernadette, they go through. we _ it with oliver and bernadette, they go through, we don't _ it with oliver and bernadette, they go through, we don't know- it with oliver and bernadette, they go through, we don't know at - it with oliver and bernadette, they go through, we don't know at the i it with oliver and bernadette, they. go through, we don't know at the end of the _ go through, we don't know at the end of the relationship _ go through, we don't know at the end of the relationship whether— go through, we don't know at the end of the relationship whether they - of the relationship whether they make _ of the relationship whether they make it — of the relationship whether they make it or— of the relationship whether they make it or not, _ of the relationship whether they make it or not, but— of the relationship whether they make it or not, but it _ of the relationship whether they make it or not, but it has - of the relationship whether they make it or not, but it has a - of the relationship whether they| make it or not, but it has a huge impact _ make it or not, but it has a huge impact on — make it or not, but it has a huge impact on who _ make it or not, but it has a huge impact on who they _ make it or not, but it has a huge impact on who they are - make it or not, but it has a huge impact on who they are as - impact on who they are as individuals— impact on who they are as individuals and _ impact on who they are as individuals and as - impact on who they are as individuals and as a - impact on who they are as.
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individuals and as a couple. impact on who they are as i individuals and as a couple. . impact on who they are as - individuals and as a couple. .that individuals and as a couple. . that connection — individuals and as a couple. . that connection between _ individuals and as a couple. . connection between the individuals and as a couple. . thai! connection between the two individuals and as a couple. . connection between the two of individuals and as a couple. _ connection between the two of you on stage is going to be crucial. that relationship. are you old friends, did you know one yet another? it’s did you know one yet another? it's not at all! did you know one yet another? it's rrot at all! so _ did you know one yet another? it's not at all! so it _ did you know one yet another? it's not at all! so it was _ did you know one yet another? it's not at all! so it was a _ did you know one yet another? it's not at all! so it was a real- not at all! so it was a real struggle! _ not at all! so it was a real struggle! you _ not at all! so it was a real struggle! you do - not at all! so it was a real struggle! you do need - not at all! so it was a real struggle! you do need to| not at all! so it was a real. struggle! you do need to be telepathic. _ struggle! you do need to be telepathic, i— struggle! you do need to be telepathic, i imagine, - struggle! you do need to be| telepathic, i imagine, acting struggle! you do need to be i telepathic, i imagine, acting in that way — telepathic, i imagine, acting in that wa . , telepathic, i imagine, acting in thatwa. , ,, �*, that way. yes, as well because it's a two hander. _ that way. yes, as well because it's a two hander, you _ that way. yes, as well because it's a two hander, you are _ that way. yes, as well because it's a two hander, you are smiling, - that way. yes, as well because it's| a two hander, you are smiling, you only have each other. we have what we call the ellipsis, we have a carpet and it is us and there is absolutely nothing to hide behind. there are 100 and do scenes in the play so it is very athletic and it is covering six years and non—chronological so we go from the first time limits to the end of their relationship to the law coming in. ihla their relationship to the law coming in. ., , ., , , their relationship to the law coming in. ., , ., ,, ., it'sa in. no props, no furniture. it's a beautiful— in. no props, no furniture. it's a beautiful set, _ in. no props, no furniture. it's a beautiful set, though. _ in. no props, no furniture. it's a beautiful set, though. a - in. no props, no furniture. it's a i beautiful set, though. a gorgeous set to look at. i know it is stark but it looks like a beautiful production. but it looks like a beautiful production-—
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but it looks like a beautiful! production._ at but it looks like a beautiful - production._ at least you production. yeah, yeah. at least you have not a production. yeah, yeah. at least you have got a carpet. — production. yeah, yeah. at least you have got a carpet, we _ production. yeah, yeah. at least you have got a carpet, we don't - production. yeah, yeah. at least you have got a carpet, we don't even - have got a carpet, we don't even have _ have got a carpet, we don't even have a _ have got a carpet, we don't even have a carpet! _ have got a carpet, we don't even have a carpet! l— have got a carpet, we don't even have a carpet!— have a carpet! i wonder if body lanatuae have a carpet! i wonder if body language is — have a carpet! i wonder if body language is really _ have a carpet! i wonder if body language is really important i have a carpet! i wonder if body language is really important in| have a carpet! i wonder if body - language is really important in this play. i'mjust language is really important in this play. i'm just saying, just noticing that the body language, i am always very conscious that sometimes i think if i turn away, it is not very friendly of me. a bit like you are, aidan! �* ., _ , aidan! but then we are in symmetry with each other. _ aidan! but then we are in symmetry with each other. there _ aidan! but then we are in symmetry with each other. there is _ with each other. there is something happening there _ with each other. there is something happening there. we _ with each other. there is something happening there-— happening there. we do that all the time. it is interesting, _ happening there. we do that all the time. it is interesting, we _ happening there. we do that all the | time. it is interesting, we happened to both wear — time. it is interesting, we happened to both wear pink— time. it is interesting, we happened to both wear pink this _ time. it is interesting, we happened to both wear pink this morning. - time. it is interesting, we happened to both wear pink this morning. we | to both wear pink this morning. we did comment on that backstage. to both wear pink this morning. we i did comment on that backstage. and so did our did comment on that backstage. jinn. so did our weather presenter did comment on that backstage. a"u:c so did our weather presenter matt and so did sally on morning live and no one no one talk about it. titer;r no one no one talk about it. they said, is no one no one talk about it. they said. is it — no one no one talk about it. they said. is it your— no one no one talk about it. they said, is it your stylist? _ no one no one talk about it. they said, is it your stylist? no, that doesn't — said, is it your stylist? no, that doesn't happen! it said, is it your stylist? no, that doesn't happen!— doesn't happen! it was 'ust coincidence. i doesn't happen! it was 'ust coincidence. we * doesn't happen! it was 'ust coincidence. we are i doesn't happen! it wasjust coincidence. we are quite l doesn't happen! it was just - coincidence. we are quite similar as well _ coincidence. we are quite similar as well we _ coincidence. we are quite similar as well we didn't _ coincidence. we are quite similar as
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well. we didn't coordinate! - coincidence. we are quite similar as well. we didn't coordinate! it- coincidence. we are quite similar as well. we didn't coordinate! it is- well. we didn't coordinate! it is weird. wherever _ well. we didn't coordinate! weird. wherever you well. we didn't coordinate! it! it: weird. wherever you work well. we didn't coordinate! weird. wherever you work and whatever you do, i have sat in meetings at work and around the table, every bloke is wearing a checked shirt.— checked shirt. blue shirt and chinos is something we _ checked shirt. blue shirt and chinos is something we see _ checked shirt. blue shirt and chinos is something we see a _ checked shirt. blue shirt and chinos is something we see a lot _ checked shirt. blue shirt and chinos is something we see a lot in - checked shirt. blue shirt and chinos is something we see a lot in the - is something we see a lot in the office _ is something we see a lot in the office. ~ . , �* is something we see a lot in the office. ~ .,, �* ,., is something we see a lot in the office. ~ �* ,.,, office. wasn't there some story about wimbledon? _ office. wasn't there some story about wimbledon? i _ office. wasn't there some story about wimbledon? i was - office. wasn't there some story about wimbledon? i was sat i office. wasn't there some story - about wimbledon? i was sat behind ou at about wimbledon? i was sat behind you at wimbledon, _ about wimbledon? i was sat behind you at wimbledon, at _ about wimbledon? i was sat behind you at wimbledon, at wimbledon, | about wimbledon? i was sat behind i you at wimbledon, at wimbledon, at the wimbledon! mr; you at wimbledon, at wimbledon, at the wimbledon!— the wimbledon! my grandma kept t in: to the wimbledon! my grandma kept trying to trying _ the wimbledon! my grandma kept trying to trying to _ the wimbledon! my grandma kept trying to trying to touch _ the wimbledon! my grandma kept trying to trying to touch his - the wimbledon! my grandma kept trying to trying to touch his hair i trying to trying to touch his hair because it was so lovely and i kept saying, grandma, stop touching that. it was so we have got to worry about your grandma's body language with aidan! _ your grandma's body language with aidan! lovely to meet you, thank you for coming _ aidan! lovely to meet you, thank you for coming in— aidan! lovely to meet you, thank you for coming in and being so in sync. -- the— for coming in and being so in sync. —— the players coming to manchester?
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yes, —— the players coming to manchester? yes. 21st _ —— the players coming to manchester? yes. 21st of— —— the players coming to manchester? yes, 21st of the 25th of man —— much. lemons, lemons, lemons, lemons, lemons runs at the harold pinter theatre in london until 18 march, manchester opera house from 2! to 25 march, and theatre royal in brighton from 28 march to i april. you didn't have to learn all of that, we did it
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