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this is bbc news —— these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. shamima begum — who left london as a schoolgirl tojoin islamic state — finds out in the next few minutes if she's won her appeal against being stripped of her british citizenship. against being stripped isis was the worst thing of the 21st—century and i was a part of it and now i have to face the consequences of my actions. president biden is to meet leaders of countries along nato�*s eastern border, to talk defence and aid to ukraine. the government is meeting officials from the royal college of nursing today, to start what have been described as "intensive talks" on pay, terms and conditions. morrisons becomes the latest supermarket to limit the amount of fruit and veg you can buy,
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because of a shortage of fresh produce. bells ringing. and we'll be hearing all about the appeal to recruit more bell ringers, in time for the king's coronation. hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world. a british woman who joined the islamic state group is about to find out whether she can regain her uk citizenship. shamima begum was 15 years old when she travelled to syria, where she married an islamic state fighter. she was later stripped of her british citizenship on grounds of national security, but has appealed against that decision. begum says she was a victim of human trafficking,
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and should be allowed to return to britain from the refugee camp in northern syria where she now lives. our home affairs correspondent daniel sandford reports. this was shamima begum in february 2015, eight years ago, leaving gatwick airport with two school friends to go and join the islamic state group in syria. a friend who'd already gone there had persuaded them tojoin her. the three of them travelled through a bus station in turkey and were smuggled across the border by a man who, it later turned out, was providing information to canadian intelligence. she spent the next four years in islamic state territory, emerging after the caliphate collapsed, but she immediately had her british citizenship removed by sajid javid, who was then the home secretary. she's been in the camps in northern syria ever since. at least with prison sentences you know that there will be an end. but here, you don't know if there's going to be an end. she will hear today if her challenge of sajid javid's decision is successful.
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her lawyers have argued that, rather than being stripped of her citizenship, she should have been treated as a victim of trafficking for sexual purposes, because she was married to an adult fighter within weeks of arriving in syria. and richard barrett, who specialised in counter—terrorism at both mi6 and the united nations, believes leaving women such as shamima begum in the camps creates more risk, not less. at least if she were in london, there would be procedures for monitoring her. the local community would be aware of her. and there also might be ways to ensure that she wasn't still radical, trying to bring her back into society. there's no such programme available in the camps in north—east syria. what do you think you'll be doing in seven years' time from now? still be in this camp! really? yeah. you don't think you'll be home? nope~ _ not at all? nope. why not? because isis was the worst thing
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of the 21st century, and i was a part of it. and now i have to face the consequences of my actions. and this camp is the consequences of my actions. in court, lawyers for the government argued that shamima begum was still a risk to national security, with some of the secret evidence heard behind closed doors. and today, she will hear whether the judge agreed. daniel sandford, bbc news. and we will bring you that decision as soon as we hear it. we will be speaking to a home affairs correspondence about it. president biden will come under pressure to offer further security guarantees when he meets leaders of nine countries from the eastern part of nato later today. mr biden is in the polish capital, warsaw, where yesterday he renewed his promise that washington would continue to support ukraine. but at a meeting of the �*bucharest nine�* nations, he's likely to face demands for nato troops to be permanently stationed
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on the alliance�*s eastern flank, rather than rotated in and out, as they currently are. earlier i spoke to our eastern europe correspondent rainsford in warsaw. there are several thousand people in the embankments here in warsaw. lots of ukrainian flags flying in support. sirens wailing. we are going to have more sirens here today. there has been an awful lot of police security, of course, for this visit. notjust becausejoe biden is here but also the leaders of nine countries in town to discuss support for ukraine, to discuss that message thatjoe biden brought here to warsaw. talking about the war in ukraine very much as a fight in defence of freedom. that's how he's now describing what happening there. and it's the way many people in this part of the well think, part of the world think, because i think they feel the threat from the ukraine war,
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the threat from russian aggression much more keenly here than in other parts of the west. this is eastern europe, it's a country that knows all about the threat from russia historically, of course. and we in fact have recently been on the eastern border of poland where two farmers were killed when a missile that strayed over the borderfrom ukraine, thought to be a ukrainian missile on that occasion, killed two people in a field. they are increasing their security, increasing their defences. there are patriot missile systems on poland's eastern border. these are countries that want to feel that nato is united in protecting them against what they see as a very significant threat. a threat they've been warning against for a very long time, but here we have a president biden meeting these nine leaders right on russia's doorstep? this will not go unnoticed by president putin? no, it won't. of course, president putin has been couching his invasion as a response to a threat from nato right from the start. but here they would argue that threat is completely the other way around, that russia's invasion was unprovoked and that it is putin's war of choice. that's the language we heard again from joe biden
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in his speech here in warsaw. a speech that went down extremely well. as i say, there were crowds there, there were many people with the american flag. he was a very popular visitor and i think nobody has failed to notice that it is a second visit byjoe biden to poland in undera year. this region is certainly speaking with a louder voice these days because of its proximity to that war and because it has been a sort of moral voice, if you like, a warning about the russian threat for some time. sirens wail. another big convoy of cars in the background. like it's very much at the heart of the response to that ukraine war right at the moment. let's go to washington and speak to rachel rizzo, senior fellow at the atlantic council's europe centre. it is very early in the morning so we are very much obliged to you for talking to us at this time of day.
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how has the change in focus affected the biden administration's foreign policy? i the biden administration's foreign oli ? ~ �* policy? i think the biden administration _ policy? i think the biden administration had - policy? i think the biden administration had a - policy? i think the biden i administration had a couple policy? i think the biden - administration had a couple of policy? i think the biden _ administration had a couple of goals when they came into office. the first was to focus on china in the indo—pacific region and the second was to repair the relationship with europe that had been so badly damaged during the four years of tron�*s presidency. but as we have seen over the last year that is not what has happened with the russian invasion of ukraine. this administration's focus is very much shifted to notjust repairing the relationship with europe but showing unwavering support to native's eastern flank. we have seen that happen with biden�*s two trips to poland within one year and his surprise visit to kyiv a couple of days ago and the many pledges of weaponry and financial aid he has sent ukraine since russia invaded
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last february. his sent ukraine since russia invaded last february-— last february. his visit will be a validation _ last february. his visit will be a validation for _ last february. his visit will be a validation for many _ last february. his visit will be a validation for many countries i last february. his visit will be a validation for many countries in eastern europe who have long said russia posed a threat. how difficult is it for him to balance his relationships between those countries in the east of europe and those in the west? i countries in the east of europe and those in the west?— those in the west? i think western euro ean those in the west? i think western european leaders _ those in the west? i think western european leaders are _ those in the west? i think western european leaders are aware - those in the west? i think western european leaders are aware the . european leaders are aware the geopolitical centre of europe has shifted east, at least for now. i think biden has definitely managed those relationships, even as some do stops with western europe, most recently frustrations over the inflation reduction act have occurred. but even among these frustrations, we have to remember that coming into office, but i don't really wanted to focus on these relationships and he has donejust that. he has been highly complimentary of german chancellor olaf scholz, stepping up to the plate, leaning germany of russian energy, greening to send leopard tanks to ukraine. he also welcomed
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french president emmanuel macron with a full state visit. i think relations are good there. how much has he not relations are good there. how much has he got to _ relations are good there. how much has he got to manage _ relations are good there. how much has he got to manage expectationsl has he got to manage expectations about how far his support can go? i think this trip specifically was a symbolic one for president biden. not only does he want to reaffirm the us' unwavering support to both ukraine and europe, but it also marked the first time a us president made a journey to a war zone not controlled by us troops. it is extremely symbolic and shows that the united states is committed to this, committed to supporting ukraine in the long haul. when you look at poland, it is one of the united states' strongest allies in europe, it has one of the highest amount of defence spending in line with nato targets. it happens to share one of the continent's longest borders with ukraine, meaning it is literally on the front lines of this
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war. so this is symbolic but it is also in the united states' interest to make sure the support continues, to make sure the support continues, to make sure sanctions continue and to make sure sanctions continue and to make sure the us continues to hold together this unified nato line. w hold together this unified nato line. .. ., ~ hold together this unified nato line. ., ~ _, , hold together this unified nato line. ., ~' ,, , . line. rachel, thank you very much for our line. rachel, thank you very much for yourtime- _ line. rachel, thank you very much for your time. thanks. _ the chinese communist party official in charge of foreign policy, wang yi, has been holding talks in moscow with russia's top diplomat, sergei lavrov. their meeting comes at a time of rising global diplomatic tensions over moscow's war on ukraine. on tuesday, mr wang met moscow's security chief, nikolai patrushev. they said china and russia "opposed all forms of bullying." this was an apparent reference to warnings from washington on new sanctions on russia. they also said they opposed the introduction of a "cold war mentality". mr wang may also meet
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president putin during his visit. earlier, i spoke to bbc�*s china correspondent stephen mcdonell about the current situation between china and the us which have gone particularly askew in recent days since the chinese balloon debacle and how much this pushes china and russia towards one another. well, they've already been building relations, you know, right back to the declaration of this no limits friendship at the time of the winter olympics here. but it's interesting, as this visit is taking place in moscow with china's senior foreign policy official having several meetings and he may even meet vladimir putin, governments seem to be able to convince themselves that their own lines make perfect sense within their little sort of box of self—justification that they live in. but you wonder if the governments of russia and china can see just how contradictory some of these positions seem. so, for example, wang yi comes out of a meeting with russia's senior security official and they both
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declare, well, what they're both interested in is peace and stability. now, this comes on the one—year anniversary of the invasion of ukraine. also, the two are saying they don't want more of a move towards a cold war mentality. well, again, this comes as china is accused of already supplying this dual use technology for the russian war effort, equipment that could be used to repair russian fighterjets or scramble enemy communications. so, you know, china can say it's neutral in all of this and russia can speak about concepts like peace and not having a cold war, but the facts on the ground seem to conflict with these ideas quite drastically.
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bringing you some breaking news. british steel intend to close their coke ovens which turn coal into coke for their blast furnaces. this puts potentially 300 jobs at risk in scunthorpe. apparently this proposal is part of the drive to overcome global economic challenges and build a green and sustainable future. last year the company saw its bills for energy and carbon increased by £190 million last year. they said this decisive action is required because of the unprecedented rise in operating costs, surging inflation and the need to improve environmental performance. but british steel has played a crucial role in ensuring the uk has its own supply of high—quality steel and they are saying their statement, to make sure we can deliver the steel that britain requires, we are undergoing the biggest transformation in our 130 year
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history. of course, there's people doing the work at scunthorpe are very concerned about what it means for them. we'll be hearing from our correspondent nick garnett later on that story. china and japan are holding their first high—level defence talks for four years. the talks are aimed at reducing tension between the world's second and third most powerful economies. beijing is concerned about tokyo's decision to double defence spending over the next five years. tokyo is worried about china's increasingly aggressive stance towards taiwan, and over disputed claims to islands in the south china sea. the japanese foreign affairs minister, shigeo yamada, says it's important to continue dialogue. translation: we are facing many challenges and issues _ as well as some opportunities in relations between japan and china. this is particularly in the field of security, including the situation surrounding the senkaku islands in the east china sea, the increased military activities by china in the area around japan, its cooperation with russia, and the balloon—shaped flying objects that have been confirmed
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in our airspace in the past. breaking news, we arejust breaking news, we are just hearing that shamima begum has lost her appeal against the removal of her uk citizenship. this is a woman who, at the age of 15 in 2015, left the uk and travelled to syria to join the islamic state group and she was stripped of her british citizenship by the home secretary at the time, sajid javid, because of her involvement with the extremist group. she has appealed against having her citizenship stripped, but she has now lost that appeal. let's speak to a security expert from the university of buckingham. thank you
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forjoining us this morning. to what extent was that expected the decision to be? it extent was that expected the decision to be?— extent was that expected the decision to be? , , . ., decision to be? it is very much what i exected decision to be? it is very much what i exnected the _ decision to be? it is very much what i expected the decision _ decision to be? it is very much what i expected the decision to _ decision to be? it is very much what i expected the decision to be. - decision to be? it is very much what i expected the decision to be. i - i expected the decision to be. i hope it sort of settles the matter. this is a tragedy for shamima begum, but it is also much more of a tragedy for the people who lost their lives at the hands of the brutal, sadistic so—called islamic state whom she supported. it is also a question of politics, what would have been the implications if she had been allowed to come back to the uk and regain her citizenship? she wasn't the only person who has been stripped of her citizenship, about 150 people have also been stripped of their citizenship. all of them would have appealed. and had she come back to the united kingdom, whatever her own views where she would have been treated as an icon
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by islamists in the united kingdom. so i am not surprised. the politics of it were wrong, but the bottom line is, this is the law and all of us believe in lawfulness. the government has been found not to have broken the law, as i sound not surprised and i think we should draw a line under the matter of shamima begum. i a line under the matter of shamima beuum. ., , a line under the matter of shamima beuum. . , ., begum. i am sure in time that will ha en, begum. i am sure in time that will happen. but _ begum. i am sure in time that will happen. but at _ begum. i am sure in time that will happen, but at the _ begum. i am sure in time that will happen, but at the moment - begum. i am sure in time that will happen, but at the moment this . begum. i am sure in time that will happen, but at the moment this is fresh news. she was only 15 when she left the country, a child, a minor under british law. are you surprised that hasn't had more of an effect on the thinking of politicians and judges, for that matter? i am not surrised judges, for that matter? i am not surprised for _ judges, for that matter? i am not surprised for a _ judges, for that matter? i am not surprised for a rather _ surprised for a rather straightforward reason, which is that she has shown no real remorse. when david lloyd, the times journalist went to speak to her, the first person to carry out an in—depth interview with her, he said
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there was no sign of remorse on her part. she spoke to him like any other extremist, radical islamist to whom he had previously spoken and speaks. there was no sense she wanted to reform, she wished to rehabilitate herself. no, none of that. i think rehabilitate herself. no, none of that. ithink if rehabilitate herself. no, none of that. i think if she had said, look, i was 15 and i was stupid, i was brainwashed and if she were to name the people she could claim had brainwashed her, ithink the people she could claim had brainwashed her, i think the 15—year—old aspect would be different, would have carried more weight. but she didn't, she repeatedly did not do it. so i think now she has got to try and work her passage back to the values that the vast majority of british people have and it will be tough for her, but she'll manage.—
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and it will be tough for her, but she'llmanaae. �*, ., ~ ., . she'll manage. let's talk about that in a second. — she'll manage. let's talk about that in a second. i— she'll manage. let's talk about that in a second, i want— she'll manage. let's talk about that in a second, i want to _ she'll manage. let's talk about that in a second, i want to bring - she'll manage. let's talk about that in a second, i want to bring you - she'll manage. let's talk about that in a second, i want to bring you a i in a second, i want to bring you a line from the special immigration appeals commission, which has been hearing this case. it says, shamima begum's appeal has been dismissed on all grounds. you say that if she had said i was 15, an idiot and all grounds. you say that if she had said i was 15, an idiotand i had been brainwashed, surely that is the point, if you are 15, you are indoctrinated, radicalised, how can you have an normal set of values that we would expect of an adult? i think these cultural issues are very complicated. perhaps particularly with somebody of my age to judge. on the whole, you look at things like you know, self identifying your gender and so on, the move is towards getting people younger and younger all the time. i feel it was very clearly a conscious decision, made with careful planning and
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forethought by shamima begum at the age of 15. notjust to go off and support the vile so—called islamic state, but also to give herself up in a form of marriage, a formal form of marriage to anotherjihadist. if she is old enough to do that, she is old enough to realise she threw away her british passport the minute she left are safe shows. but her british passport the minute she left are safe shows.— left are safe shows. but we don't believe a 15-year-old _ left are safe shows. but we don't believe a 15-year-old is - left are safe shows. but we don't believe a 15-year-old is old - left are safe shows. but we don't i believe a 15-year-old is old enough believe a 15—year—old is old enough to get married. she is a british child, therefore a british responsibility? i child, therefore a british responsibility?— child, therefore a british responsibility? child, therefore a british resonsibili ? ~ , ., , child, therefore a british resonsibili ? ~ , ., responsibility? i think she was a british responsibility _ responsibility? i think she was a british responsibility up - responsibility? i think she was a british responsibility up to - responsibility? i think she was a british responsibility up to the l british responsibility up to the point where she threw her british citizenship and respect for the values that goes together with british citizenship, until she threw that away. the moment she did that she took her life into her own hands. it is tragic and yes, from an
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english perspective, 15 is very young. there is no doubt about it. but in other countries, in other countries people can be lawfully married at the age of 15 and even younger. we have to be very careful about saying that if it is her choice to do that... if it was her free will to do that, we have got to be very careful in saying, no, you cannot do it. supposing she had been arrested and prevented in that way from going out, we might be having a different conversation now. but she was determined to do it. she was determined to do it. her defence has blamed absolutely everybody you can think of, from her school in london, to the metropolitan police, counterterror police and even an agent of the canadian secret intelligence service. they have all been blamed and the one person who hasn't been blamed as shamima herself. i think that would have
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made a difference. i think she can work her way back to the united kingdom, she can re—earn her citizenship by showing she is genuinely remorseful and doing all she can to redeem and rehabilitate herself. working, for example, with surviving ucd women who were so brutally tortured by the people shamima supported.— brutally tortured by the people shamima supported. surely she could have worked — shamima supported. surely she could have worked her— shamima supported. surely she could have worked her way _ shamima supported. surely she could have worked her way back _ shamima supported. surely she could have worked her way back to - shamima supported. surely she could have worked her way back to those i have worked her way back to those values you talked about hadley brought her back home, had we tried to de—radical i is her, had the government granted her some form of rehabilitation or even put her on trial? figs rehabilitation or even put her on trial? �* , ., ., , rehabilitation or even put her on trial? �* , . . , . rehabilitation or even put her on trial? ~ , . ., , ., ., rehabilitation or even put her on trial? ~ , . ., ., , trial? as far as a trial is concerned, _ trial? as far as a trial is concerned, that - trial? as far as a trial is concerned, that is - trial? as far as a trial is concerned, that is a - trial? as far as a trial is - concerned, that is a nonstarter. trial? as far as a trial is _ concerned, that is a nonstarter. the offence is, it is alleged she committed and which the judges think she clearly did participate in, were committed outside the jurisdiction
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of the united kingdom. the witnesses, where they are still alive will be dispersed all over the place. no, if she had come back to the uk she would not be tried, i am sure of that. but whatever she herself has in her heart, we don't have a window to her soul, we can only go by what she has said in public, she would nevertheless be treated as a beacon by islamists in the united kingdom. we are still reeling from the horror, for example, of the assassination of sir david amis mp, or even worse, if that were possible, the manchester arena bombing. these are things that strike very deeply at the heart of our british culture and our british values. so we have to do everything we can do to deter others from going the same path and doing the same
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things that shamima begum did. it is tough, it is tragic, as i say. it is a tragedy for everybody, but most of all for the victims and every responsible government, every successive home secretary who has agreed with this decision has understood that their primary duty is to keep this country safe and prevent people who want to do us harm from doing so. and you may say she got caught up in that, you may say it wasn't her free will. i disagree with you, i think it was her free will, disagree with you, i think it was herfree will, but disagree with you, i think it was her free will, but the consequences are severe and they have to be severe. ., ~' are severe and they have to be severe. ., ~ , ., y are severe and they have to be severe. ., ~ ,, , . ., i. severe. thank you very much for your time. we severe. thank you very much for your time- we will— severe. thank you very much for your time. we will have _ severe. thank you very much for your time. we will have more _ severe. thank you very much for your time. we will have more reaction - severe. thank you very much for your time. we will have more reaction to l time. we will have more reaction to that decision not to reinstate uk citizenship to shamima begum throughout the day on bbc news. let return to the british steel story now. the company has announced it is going to close its coke ovens in
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scunthorpe which is in north lincolnshire. i'm joined now by our north of england correspondent nick garnett. what is the reason for this? let me explain where i am, you can probably see some large chimneys, the black ones are pumping out smoke at the moment and they do so 2a hours a day and those are the coking ovens that will be closed under british steel's plans. it will be closed under british steel's lans. ., ' . will be closed under british steel's lans. . ' . ,': :: :: will be closed under british steel's lans. . ;;:: :: plans. it will affect 300 “obs. those ovens i plans. it will affect 300 “obs. those ovens partially h plans. it will affect 300 jobs. those ovens partially burned| plans. it will affect 300 jobs. - those ovens partially burned coal. the coal is imported from all over europe and further afield as well, from colombia. it is brought here and partially burned and then the burning process is stopped and then the coke is moved over to the production ovens, the blast furnaces and is used to make the steel. british steel wants to shut down production of it. not because of prices of the raw products as such, but because of the rise in energy prices overall. the company says it
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is paying £170 million more than it did last yearfor is paying £170 million more than it did last year for not only its fuel, but also the prices it has to pay in terms of carbon emissions. the coke is used to fuel those blast furnaces. british steel will now have to import the coke, the finish coke from new places. the unions are furious and they say it is going to cause all sorts of problems because you are then relying on the actual fuel to burn in the oven is to be imported. and that means supplies could be disrupted, prices could rise out of control and nothing is in the company where it is currently made. the union say it is devastating for the area, 300 jobs in an area such as scunthorpe is a huge amount. there are 4000 workers on site, but those 300 jobs, very difficult to see where else they would work. what the company is hoping is the company will turn round and re—employ those workers in
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the production site, where there is apparently a staff shortage at the moment. that is the and that their negotiations, that will be starting tomorrow. he. the blast furnaces will continue to operate here. there is a demand for the steel that is produced here but this is a site that has been under threat since the 19705 that has been under threat since the 1970s and in 2019 the company was liquidated and bought by a chinese company which promised to invest heavily in the company. the unions say that investment hasn't yet been seen. but the negotiations. tomorrow, they will go on for 60 days and hopefully both sides hope they can come to some negotiation, which will mean the workers will transfer over and carry on getting jobs, but in the production side of the company. irlick jobs, but in the production side of the company-— jobs, but in the production side of the coman . . ~' the company. nick garnett thank you ve much the company. nick garnett thank you very much in — the company. nick garnett thank you
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very much in scunthorpe. _ the company has announced it is going to close its coke ovens in england's health secretary, stephen barclay, is meeting representatives of the royal college of nursing after the union suspended a strike planned for next week. following months of disputes, the two sides have said they would begin intensive talks on pay, terms and conditions, and reforms. government proposals for next year's public sector pay in england are also being drawn up. here's our health correspondent, sophie hutchinson. no ifs, no buts, no nhs cuts! after a winter of strikes, finally, a glimmer of hope. nurses who've carried out six individual walk—outs, and who were planning to increase the pressure with the biggest, longest strike so far in england, have agreed to pause the action. now, instead of striking, today, leaders from the royal college of nursing will meet for intensive talks with ministers and officials. i've always said i wouldn't negotiate in public. the prime minister has now got the table prepared. we will be there and we will enter
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those negotiations in good faith as soon as they start. and we will make sure that no stone is left unturned, to make sure that that fair pay deal is reached as quickly as possible, so that we can bring a conclusion to these strikes. how successful will they be? initially, nurses had asked for a pay increase of 5% above inflation. since then, their union, the rcn, has said it would meet the government halfway. on the other side, ministers had insisted they would not renegotiate this year's pay deal. but a source close to the negotiations has said they may consider backdating a deal. pressure on the government has been ramping up, with ever bigger strikes planned, and junior doctors in england now deciding tojoin the picket lines. we need to see further progress made. there are, of course, other unions planning to take action, and we want to see industrial action across the nhs resolved, in order for the nhs to focus on the things that it wants to for patients. the desire to reach an agreement and avert more pain is perhaps understandable. sophie hutchinson, bbc news.
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teachers in parts of england are going ahead with planned strikes next week, despite an offer from the government to hold talks about pay. the education secretary gillian keegan said she would start formal pay talks with the national education union as long as it called off its industrial action, but it refused. let's get more on a story that we have just been breaking. let's get more on a story that we havejust been breaking. shamima begum, the schoolgirl from london whojoined begum, the schoolgirl from london who joined the islamic state group when she was 15, she had her uk citizenship stripped by the then home secretary sajid javid. she appealed against that and today she has found that she has lost. our home affairs correspondent daniel sanford is in central london at the special immigration appeals commission where the case was heard. daniel, we were hearing that the judge said it has been dismissed on
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all grounds. judge said it has been dismissed on all rounds. . , judge said it has been dismissed on all grounde— all grounds. that is right. we have 'ust come all grounds. that is right. we have just come uo _ all grounds. that is right. we have just come up from _ all grounds. that is right. we have just come up from the _ all grounds. that is right. we have just come up from the basement l just come up from the basement courtroom here with the full judgment in our hands. mrjustice jdy judgment in our hands. mrjustice jay has said that all nine grounds of shamima begum's appeal have been dismissed. he said the strongest grounds were once around the suggestion that actually rather than voluntarily travelling to syria as a 15—year—old she had effectively been trafficked, she had been persuaded and groomed to go there and was essentially a victim of trafficking or sexual exploitation. the judges clearly felt that was a strong argument and they said there was a credible suspicion that she had been trafficked to syria within the meaning of relevant international legal instruments. thejudges meaning of relevant international legal instruments. the judges also said there were arguable breaches of duty and that certain organisations in the uk knew that shamima begum's
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and had already travelled to syria and had already travelled to syria and should have been aware there was and should have been aware there was a risk that she might follow. however, despite that and having clear sympathy for that argument, thejudges have clear sympathy for that argument, the judges have concluded clear sympathy for that argument, thejudges have concluded it clear sympathy for that argument, the judges have concluded it is clear sympathy for that argument, thejudges have concluded it is not really relevant to the legal aspects of this case. they have said that because shamima begum is in syria then essentially those duties on the secretary of state to worry about the people being trafficked are not relevant in this case and in the end the decision as to whether or not someone poses a threat to national security is a decision for the secretary of state, the home secretary, and the judges concluded that it was naught made in an irrational or illegal way and that decision to strip shamima begum of her british citizens, leaving her in effect in limbo and a camp in north—eastern syria, should stand. she isn't the only person who has had citizenship stripped from her?
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no, she is not, but she is of course by far the most high—profile case. and perhaps one of the most contentious ones because some of those who have had their citizenship stripped, for example people who are members of the kidnap gang and murder gang that killed british and american hostages, had clearly committed very serious acts of murder and other violence. the argument about shamima begum is always been that she had willingly gone to syria to join the islamic state group and had been there for four years and therefore she had already started being radicalised and would have been further radicalised by her time in the islamic state group. but there has always been concerned about her age, the fact that she travelled aged 15, should that make a difference? there has no evidence been seen that she has no evidence been seen that she has been involved in violence or anything like that, should that make anything like that, should that make
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a difference? thejudges hear quite a difference? thejudges hear quite a lot of secret evidence from m15 in these court hearings that we were not present to hear, thejudges clearly felt that it is the secretary of state, the home secretary of state, the home secretary was myjob, to make a decision about whether shamima begum posed a threat to national security and they have not seen anything that suggests that decision has been made wrongly in fact or in law. you suggests that decision has been made wrongly in fact or in law.— wrongly in fact or in law. you say this leaves _ wrongly in fact or in law. you say this leaves her _ wrongly in fact or in law. you say this leaves her in _ wrongly in fact or in law. you say this leaves her in limbo - wrongly in fact or in law. you say this leaves her in limbo still - wrongly in fact or in law. you say this leaves her in limbo still in i this leaves her in limbo still in this leaves her in limbo still in this camp in syria. what other options are there for her perhaps in the future to make her way back to britain? , ., ., ., britain? first of all, there are 0 tions britain? first of all, there are options to _ britain? first of all, there are options to appeal _ britain? first of all, there are options to appeal this - britain? first of all, there are i options to appeal this decision, this is not the final court on this matter, so she will be able to appeal this up the line and i would imagine we will hear fairly shortly whether or not she intends to do that. and then she does have in theory bangladeshi citizenship. so in theory she could go and try and
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live in bangladesh, but the bangladeshi government has always made it clear that they don't want her to go and live there. she was born in the uk, she spent her entire life before she travelled to syria in the uk and they don't feel they have any responsibility for her. that then leaves her in the camp in north—east syria. the problem with thatis north—east syria. the problem with that is this is not a prison that is being run by a recognised government, this is a detention camp essentially that has been run by a rebel group in north—east syria. it is not a very permanent situation. there is a risk of people escaping, there is a risk of the camp being overrun if there is any further bits of the civil war, there is the risk of the civil war, there is the risk of the civil war, there is the risk of the kurdish run administration in north—east syria saying we don't want to take responsibility for all these people that travelled round these people that travelled round the world to join islamic state, so we are going to set them free. all of those are possibilities. britain is starting to be a bit of an
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outlier in this. america, australia, some european countries, have started to accept people back from the camps in north—east syria and try to reintegrate them into their society, but the british government has always taken the position that if you travelled to syria to join islamic state, if you have dual nationality, or the possibility of dual nationality, there is a very high likelihood he will be stripped of your british citizenship and you will not be allowed to come back and shamima begum is very much in that category. of course she is incredibly high profile, which means there is a lot of focus on her. she says she is not the only one, but she is a very good example of a very difficult decision that had to be made on this issue.— difficult decision that had to be made on this issue. daniel sanford re ”ortin made on this issue. daniel sanford reporting from _ made on this issue. daniel sanford reporting from that _ made on this issue. daniel sanford reporting from that special- reporting from that special immigration commission. a little bit more detail about what the judge in this case said when giving the decision at the tribunal. he said he
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accepted that reasonable people will differ over the circumstances of her case. the commission fully recognise the considerable force in sebaceous advance on behalf of shamima begum, but the secretary of state was my conclusion, that she travelled voluntary to syria, is as stark as it is unsympathetic. further, there is some merit in the argument that those advising the secretary of state see this as a black and white issue and many would say there are shades of grey. he continued, if asked to evaluate all the circumstances of this case, reasonable people with knowledge of all the relevant evidence will differ, in particular in relation to theissue differ, in particular in relation to the issue of the extent to which her travel to syria was voluntary and the weight to be given to that factor in the context of all others. likewise, reasonable people will differ as to the threat she posed in february 2019 to the national security of the united kingdom and as to how that threat should be balanced against all counter
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considerations. however, under our constitutional settlement, the sensitive issues are for the secretary of state to evaluate and not for the commission. the words of mrjustice jake when delivering the decision of the tribunal in the shamima begum case. she has lost her appeal, she will not get back to uk citizenship and it was not unlawful to do that. england's health secretary steve barclay is meeting representatives from the royal college of nursing today to try to move forward in the pay dispute which has led to unprecedented strikes across england. let's speak now to the chair of the health and social care committee, steve brine. thank you forjoining us. what believe has changed that could enable these intensive talks to take place? i enable these intensive talks to take lace? ~ . enable these intensive talks to take . lace? ~' ., ., , enable these intensive talks to take lace? ~ ., .,, . ., enable these intensive talks to take lace? ~' ., .,, . ., , place? i think what has changed is the unions have _ place? i think what has changed is the unions have decided _ place? i think what has changed is the unions have decided to - place? i think what has changed is l the unions have decided to take the strike action away, it is not stopped, it has been suspended, i
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think that has opened up a more meaningful conversation. i think it is very easy to say well somebody flipped. i don't think that is the case. this is not reopening the current pay deal, nor is it pre—empting next year's pay deal. i have always said i think the landing strip to end this on the agenda for change, rememberthis strip to end this on the agenda for change, remember this is more than just nurses, is for the pay review body to report quicker than it would. we heard from them just before half term. and for that to be backdated further than normal. normally it would go back to the 1st of april. i think the landing strip is for it to go back a bit further. i think the fact that conversation has been hard has been enough to ask the unions to suspend the current strikes, which has led to a more meaningful, trustworthy conversation
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thatis meaningful, trustworthy conversation that is starting right now with the health secretary. i think it is great. health secretary. i think it is areat. , �* health secretary. i think it is areat. w . health secretary. i think it is areat. , �* . , health secretary. i think it is areat. n ., , ., ., great. isn't that 'ust a way of lettin: great. isn't thatjust a way of letting everybody _ great. isn't thatjust a way of letting everybody save - great. isn't thatjust a way of letting everybody save face. | great. isn't thatjust a way of i letting everybody save face. we great. isn't thatjust a way of - letting everybody save face. we are not unpicking last year, we are not looking ahead to next year, but we might give people more money in back pay at some point? what might give people more money in back pay at some point?— pay at some point? what is wrong with saving _ pay at some point? what is wrong with saving face? _ pay at some point? what is wrong with saving face? at _ pay at some point? what is wrong with saving face? at the _ pay at some point? what is wrong with saving face? at the end - pay at some point? what is wrong with saving face? at the end of i pay at some point? what is wrong | with saving face? at the end of the day talking to nursing staff this morning and listening to see what is coming in, the number one word that i would use is relief. the waiting lists, which is part of the workload pressure that nursing staff feel, why they are so burned out and so understandably burnt out, is only getting worse with every strike day. so if people can save face and that leads to getting on with the day job, which is treating my constituents, your viewers, then i don't care what you call it. it is also letting _ don't care what you call it. it is also letting the _ don't care what you call it. it is also letting the government save face as well. as you say, if there
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is relief all round as we move on thatis is relief all round as we move on that is progress. but there will be other unions, i know health and social care is your brief, but there are other unions inside the health service and outside it, who will be looking at this and saying if the rcn can land the sort of talks with some promise, what about us? the other wa some promise, what about us? iie: other way they some promise, what about us? "iie: other way they can some promise, what about us? iie: other way they can look some promise, what about us? i““ie: other way they can look it is if the rcn are prepared to be big enough to suspend their strike to have meaningful then we, could maybe do the same instead of this posturing. sorry, it is notjust them. we have seen the bma announced that the junior doctors have voted overwhelmingly in favour of strike action, we got that yesterday. how do we avoid the strikes happening in the future? what sort of commitment or change in approach to public sector pay does the government need to look at to make sure that people don't get left behind as they feel
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it, over many years?— don't get left behind as they feel it, over many years? when we had the head of the nhs _ it, over many years? when we had the head of the nhs pay _ it, over many years? when we had the head of the nhs pay review _ it, over many years? when we had the head of the nhs pay review body i head of the nhs pay review body earlier this month they were frustrated the government had not responded to their evidence, which is what they did yesterday. it was one of the points to unlock this. the pay review process, it was behind itself partly because of the change of government at the end of last summer. i don't think that has helped. i think the government needs to rebuild the trust in the pay review process. if you didn't have an independent pay review process, you would have to invent one, but it has taken a knock because it has been trashed by the opposition, by the unions, by some members of the media, not yourself, but some members of the media have trashed it as a government stitch up. i don't think it is, but it needs to be rebuilt and that trust and relationship between government and unions with the independent pay
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review body sitting between them, that needs rebuilding, and the answer to your question going forward. the biggest pay rise would be to get inflation under control, which is what is driving this, which is understandable. irate which is what is driving this, which is understandable.— is understandable. we appreciate our is understandable. we appreciate your clarity _ is understandable. we appreciate your clarity over _ is understandable. we appreciate your clarity over who _ is understandable. we appreciate your clarity over who was - is understandable. we appreciate. your clarity over who was involved. thank you. some more breaking news regarding the shamima begum case, she lost her challenge over the decision to deprive her of her uk citizenship today. that was because she is regarded as a threat to national security, the then home secretary sajid javid took away her citizenship after she had chosen to leave the uk and went to join the islamic state group in syria when she was 15. a home office spokesperson is quoted as saying today, we are pleased that the court has found in favour of the government's position in this case. the priority is to maintain the safety and priority of the uk and we
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will robustly defend any decision made in doing so. more than 60,000 adults with disabilities and long—term illnesses in england were chased for debts by councils last year, after failing to pay for their social care support at home. claimants say they can't afford the charges amid rising food and rent prices, along with the additional costs of living with disabilities. councils maintain they only take action as a "last option". here's our social affairs editor, alison holt. this has become julia brosnan's world. most of her days are spent within the four walls of her bedroom. she has back problems, severe mobility issues, and a rare skin condition. i can't cook for myself any more. i can't carry things. i can barely walk, because my legs are numb and they don't hold me. her local council charges her nearly £60 a week for the 13 hours of care they provide her with. going through her bills, she says she simply can't afford to pay. she gets about £300 a week in benefits.
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that covers her household bills and the extra costs of the creams, air filters and specialised food she needs. basically, ijust stop opening their letters because i can't do anything about it. i haven't got the money to give them. julia now owes the council £4,700, and it's taking legal action against her. she's constantly worried the bailiffs will be knocking on her door. you know, i can't see a way ahead. and that's upsetting? mm. i try not to think that way. you know, i'm always trying to be positive. but the fight is wearing me out, and making me more ill. nearly 80 out ofjust over 150 councils in england responded to a bbc request for data about the numbers, likejulia, struggling to pay care charges. in the last financial year,
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more than 60,000 people with disabilities and care needs were chased by councils because they'd run up debts. legal action was taken in 330 cases. disability campaigners say it is a sign of how difficult life has become. basic foodstuffs have gone up, rents have increased. i think they're expecting people to live on very, very little money if you want social care, and that is discriminatory. we provide the very best care that we can for them - for the money that we have. but there is only so much money in the system. i councils say rising demand and squeezed budgets mean they have to collect money that is owed. but legal action is a last resort. what the councils should be doing, and i think the vast majority of- councils do in the vast majority of cases, is that they work- with residents to find a solution, to find the financial route - through this, so that it is i a fair and equitable system. and julia's council, east sussex, maintains it does that with its clients. but until a solution is found in her case, she says she lives
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with constant worry. i'm just surviving, you know. that's how my life is. i keep thinking, well, one day they might wake up and realise, actually, i can't pay it. alison holt, bbc news. alison is actuallyjoining me now in the studio. a lot of these problems go back a very long way and point to very complex needs that some of these people have. complex needs that some of these people have-— complex needs that some of these people have. absolutely. the thing to remember— people have. absolutely. the thing to remember here _ people have. absolutely. the thing to remember here is _ people have. absolutely. the thing to remember here is to _ people have. absolutely. the thing to remember here is to be - people have. absolutely. the thing to remember here is to be eligible| to remember here is to be eligible for council funded social care, help with your day—to—day living, you have to have very high care needs either from disabilities or long—term health conditions, and low income, low assets and savings. it has to be less than £23,250, and that figure hasn't changed for a long time. so you have got an
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increasingly small group of people and they are also charged and many of those people are on benefits and they will say we just can't find the money because prices have gone up, but also we know that council care charges have increased significantly in recent years. so they say they are between a rock and a hard place. there is an argument from some quarters that everyone should have a minimum level of income, a minimum level of provision, but of course thatis level of provision, but of course that is easier said than done. yes. that is easier said than done. yes, social care — that is easier said than done. yes, social care is _ that is easier said than done. yes, social care is an _ that is easier said than done. yes, social care is an area _ that is easier said than done. yes, social care is an area which i that is easier said than done. i'eis social care is an area which has been argued about, planned, proposals, reports, goodness knows what else, for several decades now about what sort of a care system we should provide people with. what we do know is that at the moment we have a care system where very few people get local authority help. most people are expected to fund themselves, whether it is home care
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or care homes, but as we see here those people who do get local authority help are being chased for debts or really struggling. council say we are under huge pressure, we haven't got the money to deal with this. the government says it is put in extra funding in, but then we come back to the plan about what is the future like? what should it look like? ., , , , ., like? that is the big question. alison, thank _ like? that is the big question. alison, thank you _ like? that is the big question. alison, thank you very - like? that is the big question. alison, thank you very much. | a court in iran has sentenced a german—iranian dissident to death on the charge of "corruption on earth". jamsheed sharmahd is accused of being a leader of a pro—monarchist terrorist group. he denies the claim. amnesty international condemned what it called a sham trial. his daughter spoke to the bbc�*s azaday moshiri after his sentencing. jamshid sharmahd can only look on powerless. he's become yet another dual national iran has sentenced to death. amnesty international says mr sharmahd hasn't had access to a lawyer of his own choosing and that
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he was forced to confess. for his daughter gazelle, this is the moment she's been dreading. absolute terror. this is the most terrifying thought that you can have is somebody kidnapped your dad and they're going to assassinate him. they're going to kill him. that's what the regime has done. they kidnapped him two and a half years ago. that was the worst moment of my life. mrjamshid sharmahd lived in the united states. he's believed to have been kidnapped by iranian agents in dubai in 2020 and then forcibly taken to iran through oman. oman alleges he left for iran of his own free will. that year, iran's intelligence ministry announced it had arrested mr sharmahd. they said it had followed a complex operation. the last time i was allowed to speak to my father was more than one and a half years ago. he told us that his teeth has broken off. he doesn't have... he has no more teeth in his mouth.
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so there is physical torture. he is a parkinson, he has parkinson's disease. they don't give him his medication on time. i hope we can put more and more pressure to stop this, to save my dad's life. so you mentioned the fact that these are show trials. rights groups have been saying it's a show trial. of course, the iranian government is insisting that they believe your father was part of a terrorist organization. what's your response to that? i mean, what is your response when the biggest terrorist organization calls somebody else a terrorist? this comes just over a month after iran executed british—iranian dual national alireza akbari. he was a former deputy iranian defense minister who was convicted of spying for the united kingdom. state tv released this video of what appeared to be a forced confession. germany's foreign minister called mr sharmahd's death sentence absolutely unacceptable and promised a strong reaction.
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but for now, he and his family must wait and hope for a better outcome. azadeh moshiri, bbc news. at least four people have been killed in a powerful tropical storm that is battering the east coast of madagascar. cyclone freddy has inflicted heavy damage on buildings, and caused power cuts and flooding. among the casualties was a 27—year—old man who drowned near the town of mahanoro. the weather system has rapidly weakened as it heads south—west across madagascar. by al qaeda militants are not entitled to afghan central bank funds frozen in the united states. thejudge, george daniels, said if he allowed the three and a half billion dollars to be used to compensate the victims it would mean recognising the taliban as the legitimate government in afghanistan, which the biden administaton does not do.
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at the time of the attacks the ruling taliban allowed al-qaeda to operate from afghanistan. lawyers say they will appeal. it's 58 years since the civil—rights campaigner malcolm x was shot dead in the city of new york. now his daughter is suing the police, the fbi and the cia, saying they covered up evidence regarding his death. the family are seeking a hundred—million dollars in damages as tim allman reports. he was an iconic figure in black america's struggle for rights. his death in a decade marred by political violence. there had long been questions about the murder of malcom x. now at the very place where he was killed his daughter says she wants answers. for years our family — says she wants answers. for years our family has — says she wants answers. for years our family has fought _ says she wants answers. for years our family has fought for - says she wants answers. for years our family has fought for the i says she wants answers. for years our family has fought for the truth j our family has fought for the truth to come to light concerning his murder and we would like our father to receive the justice that he
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deserves. to receive the 'ustice that he deserves.— to receive the 'ustice that he deserves. , ., ., ., ., deserves. this man, thomas hagan, was convicted _ deserves. this man, thomas hagan, was convicted of _ deserves. this man, thomas hagan, was convicted of killing _ deserves. this man, thomas hagan, was convicted of killing malcolm i deserves. this man, thomas hagan, was convicted of killing malcolm x, i was convicted of killing malcolm x, along with two other men who were later acquitted. truths; along with two other men who were later acquitted-— later acquitted. why people should realise that freedom _ later acquitted. why people should realise that freedom is _ later acquitted. why people should realise that freedom is something l realise that freedom is something they have what they are born. the famil of they have what they are born. the family of malcolm x accuses various government bodies, including the fbi and the cia, failing to prevent his wrongful death. it is also claiming there was concealed evidence that would have cleared the two men who were wrongly convicted of his murder. �* ,., ., were wrongly convicted of his murder. ~ ,., ., , were wrongly convicted of his murder. ~ ., , ., murder. also for this great injustice — murder. also for this great injustice we _ murder. also for this great injustice we will _ murder. also for this great injustice we will be - murder. also for this great injustice we will be filing i murder. also for this great injustice we will be filing a | injustice we will be filing a wrongful death lawsuit against these governmental entities for $100 million. ., ~' governmental entities for $100 million. ., ~ . million. the new york police department _ million. the new york police department says _ million. the new york police department says it - million. the new york police department says it will i million. the new york police department says it will not l million. the new york police - department says it will not comment on pending legal action and there has been no word from the fbi or cia. for nearly 60 years the death of malcolm x has been shrouded in mystery. his family hope this lawsuit may finally reveal the truth. to orman, bbc news. you are
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watching bbc news. thank you for joining us. hello, for many of you the afternoon will be a good deal brighter than the morning. we started off a rather grey, misty and marquee. here is the clearer skies to the west, but these are shower cards which will continue to move in with the bright spells across northern and western areas. staying fairly cloudy across central and eastern england, misty over the hills, patchy rain and drizzle, rain returning to parts of northern england later in the day. a breeze coming in from the north and north—west and that is dropping the temperature so it barely lifts from what we saw first thing this morning. coolerthan what we saw first thing this morning. cooler than in recent days, but that is where we should be at this stage in february. this evening
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and overnight in england and wales will see a zone of cloud and showery rain, even a bit of wet snow on the tops of the hills push its way southwards. in between from mid wales to the midlands northwards there is a chance of frost and ice around as temperatures drop lower than we have seen for a few days. that is under this ridge of high pressure which extends in. this weather system on the northern edge of it will bring increasingly wet and windy weather across the far north of scotland, the western and the northern isles later on. early cloud and outbreaks of rain to the south of the country become confined to the channel islands. much of england and wales will have a fine day with with sunny spells throughout. temperatures similar to today, but less of a breeze. thursday night on friday the high pressure shifts westwards and that allows the weather system across scotland to drift southwards. it is
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really in scotland and northern and eastern england where we see the biggest influence on it. outbreaks of rain and drizzle, nothing desperately heavy. strong winds down the eastern coast. to the west a bit breezy but a bit brighter. temperatures between seven and 10 degrees. it will feel cool on the eastern coast given the strength of the wind. at the weekend the winds is down and high—pressure bills in across the country and that means a lot of dry weather over the weekend and into next week. we see out february on a dry note with sunny spells by drake with ross and patchy fog by night.
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this is bbc news. the headlines at 11... shamima begum — who left london as a schoolgirl to join islamic state —loses appeal againt the removal of her british citizenship. this is a tragedy for her but more of a tragedy for those who lost their lives at the hands of the brutal, sadistic so—called islamic state. british steel has announced the closure of its coking ovens in scunthorpe with the loss of 300 jobs. struggling to fund the cost of social care — and how people with disabilities end up facing legal action because they can't afford to pay. the government is meeting officials from the royal college of nursing today, to start what have been described as "intensive talks"
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on pay, terms and conditions. and — coming up at 12 noon, we will have live coverage of prime minister's questions. in the last hour, a british woman who joined the islamic state group has lost her legal challenge to regain her uk citizenship. shamima begum was 15 years old when she travelled to syria, where she married an islamic state fighter. she was later stripped of her british citizenship on grounds of national security, but has appealed against that decision. begum had said she was a victim of human trafficking, and should be allowed to return to britain from the refugee camp in northern syria where she now lives.
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our home affairs correspondent, daniel sandford, has the latest we have just come up from the basement courtrooms here with the fulljudgment in our hands. the judge said that all nine grounds of the appeal have been dismissed. he said the strongest grounds were ones around the suggestion that actually, rather than voluntarily travelling to syria as a 15—year—old, she had effectively been trafficked, she had been persuaded, and groomed to go there and was essentially a victim of trafficking for sexual exploitation. thejudges of trafficking for sexual exploitation. the judges clearly felt that was a strong argument and they said there was a credible suspicion that she had been trafficked to syria and the judges also said that they were arguable breaches of duty in that certain
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organisations in the uk new that shamima begum's friends had already travelled to syria and should have been aware that there was a risk that she might follow. however, despite that and having some clear super thief with that argument, the judges have concluded that it is not really relevant to the legal aspects of this case. they said because shamima begum is in syria, then essentially, those duties of the secretary of state to worry about those who have been trafficked and not relevant to this case and in the end, the decision as to whether or not someone poses a threat to national security is a decision for the secretary of state, the home secretary and the judges concluded that it was not made in an illegal or rational way and therefore the decision to strip shamima begum of her british citizenship, leaving her in effect, in limbo in a camp in north—east syria, should stand.
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let's get more now from josh baker who's in central london at the special immigration appeals commission. he hosts the bbc podcast 'the shamima begum story�*. thank you for being with us. what is your reaction to this decision? to be your reaction to this decision? “in be honest with you, it was to be expected. i think many people felt it would be very hard for shamima begum to find a route to get the government to review its decision. however, interestingly, as i was working out, a member of her defence team made it clear that in his view, this was not over. i think that tells us there may still be more to come on this. tells us there may still be more to come on this-— tells us there may still be more to come on this. you have spent some time with her. _ come on this. you have spent some time with her, tell _ come on this. you have spent some time with her, tell us _ come on this. you have spent some time with her, tell us your- come on this. you have spent some time with her, tell us your view i come on this. you have spent some time with her, tell us your view of l time with her, tell us your view of her and herfull story? time with her, tell us your view of her and her full story?— time with her, tell us your view of her and her full story? well, i have sent her and her full story? well, i have spent time — her and her full story? well, i have spent time talking _ her and her full story? well, i have spent time talking to _ her and her full story? well, i have spent time talking to shamima i her and her full story? well, i have i spent time talking to shamima begum for over a year and spent time talking to shamima begum for overa yearand in spent time talking to shamima begum for over a year and in essence, when you have conversations with her, you are dealing with free people. there
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is the naive 15—year—old who left london for a terror group, there is the girl who had herformative london for a terror group, there is the girl who had her formative years inside a terror state that has a blunt single—mindedness and then there is the woman who spent the last four years reflecting on her decisions who now very much want to come back to britain and have her day in court. that said, in her heart of hearts, she always suspected it may go this. do you have sympathy _ suspected it may go this. do you have sympathy with _ suspected it may go this. do you have sympathy with her, - suspected it may go this. do you have sympathy with her, having | suspected it may go this. do you i have sympathy with her, having spent the time with her, because she is a hugely controversial figure, a very polarising figure, isn't she? it is not for me _ polarising figure, isn't she? it is not for me to — polarising figure, isn't she? it is not for me to have _ polarising figure, isn't she? it 3 not for me to have sympathy or not, my job not for me to have sympathy or not, myjob is to examine the full account that she has given me and understand whether she is telling the truth or not. i do think there is an interesting question to be had about how we assess risk because some people would say it is also a risk to leave these people there and thatis risk to leave these people there and that is part of the conversation we definitely need to be looking at. when i say it polarises opinion, i
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suppose there are two camps, those who say, she was just 15, not young enough to get married, for example, and those who would say she should never be forgiven was what she did. totally, a lot of people think that shamima begum had agency in her decisions to leave and from my conversations with her, it has been interesting because what is clear is, she certainly was provided detailed information by iso members in assyria, she was being lured by a friend who was there, telling her it was the right thing to do to come and join but at the same time, shamima begum also went out of her way to come in essence, gather information herself, find others who could help her, so it is a very nuanced situation. can could help her, so it is a very nuanced situation.— could help her, so it is a very nuanced situation. can you see any government _ nuanced situation. can you see any government in _ nuanced situation. can you see any government in the _ nuanced situation. can you see any government in the future _ government in the future ever—changing of this policy? i suppose some would say, what is in it for any politician to give her what she wants?— what she wants? that is an interesting _ what she wants? that is an
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interesting point. - what she wants? that is an interesting point. as i what she wants? that is an interesting point. as it i what she wants? that is an i interesting point. as it stands at the moment, we are obviously talking about shamima begum but there are thousands of people like her from as many as 56 nations in these camps that are often considered insecure. other nations have recently started to repatriate their citizens so as a policy, it is becoming clear that perhaps britain is more isolated than its allies in this decision. that said, you cannot ignore the fact that people who have been with isis pose a threat and coming back here would present a threat to the pretty topic. here would present a threat to the pretty topic-— pretty topic. thank you. are you doin: pretty topic. thank you. are you doing another _ pretty topic. thank you. are you doing another podcast _ pretty topic. thank you. are you doing another podcastjust i pretty topic. thank you. are you doing another podcastjust on i pretty topic. thank you. are you i doing another podcastjust on what has happened today? this doing another podcast 'ust on what has happened today?_ has happened today? this will be covered in episode _ has happened today? this will be covered in episode ten _ has happened today? this will be covered in episode ten which i has happened today? this will be covered in episode ten which will| has happened today? this will be i covered in episode ten which will be out in a few weeks, along with some other revelations that we have not broadcast yet. other revelations that we have not broadcast yet-—
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anthony glees is a security expert at the university of buckingham it settles the matter. this is a tragedy for shamima begum but it is also much more of a tragedy for all the people who lost their lives at the people who lost their lives at the hands of the brutal, sadistic, so—called islamic state, whom she supported. it is also a question of politics. what should be the implications if she had been allowed to come back to the uk and regain her citizenship? she was not the only person who had been stripped of her citizenship. 150 people we are told have also been stripped of their citizenship. all of them would have appealed and had she come back to the uk, whatever her own views where, she would have been treated as an icon by islamist in the uk so iam not as an icon by islamist in the uk so
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i am not surprised. the politics of it were wrong but the bottom line is, this is the law and all of us believe in lawfulness. the government has been found not to have broken the law and i am not surprised and i think we should now draw a line under the matter of shamima begum. british steel has announced it will close its coking plant in scunthorpe with the lost of up to 260 jobs saying high inflation and energy costs make operations uneconomical. unions say the move will be 'devastating' for scunthorpe and british steel workers across the uk. i'm joined now by our north of england correspondent nick garnett. tell us more about the decision and the reasons that are being given for it. ., ., ,., , the reasons that are being given for it. one of the reasons, you can see on the right-hand _ it. one of the reasons, you can see on the right-hand side _ it. one of the reasons, you can see on the right-hand side of— it. one of the reasons, you can see on the right-hand side of your - on the right—hand side of your screen the moment, there are two large chimneys, one of them is black and pumping out smoke. it does that
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24—hour is a day. they are the cooking ovens that will be closed down at the far end this massive site discomfort. 4,000 people are employed here. 300 of them are in the cooking dance, the ovens themselves. cooke is the fuel that is used to burn inside the blast furnaces. there are three furnaces here, two of them are always late and that is the fuel that they use to actually operate on. it is made by partially burning coal which is then stopped and then it is used in then stopped and then it is used in the very high temperature inside the blast furnaces. the problem is, it causes huge amounts of carbon emissions and the company, british steel, has to pay for producing that much carbon. last year alone, the price of that went up by £70 million. 0n price of that went up by £70 million. on top of huge energy price rises, £120 million of price rises in the amount of fuel that it uses here, but is a huge amount of money.
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nearly £210 and the government has invested 300 and pounds in this site. you can see that most of that money has been spentjust on fuel to run the place in the first place. what the company wants to do is shutdown the production of that coke and import it instead. the unions are furious at this. they say that what will happen then is that we will be, as a country, beholden to other countries to provide cook that could be at a different price, withheld at any time, it could cripple the steel industry and they want something done about it, either assurances that other methods of getting it will be put in place or preferably, that this stays open. that was never going to happen for the long—term, though. these ovens were likely, because of the amount of emissions, to be shut by 2026 so the company wanted to shut them down now, the unions on them to stay open for a little longer. what is up slightly certain though is the devastation of this will cause to
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scunthorpe. this is a town built on the steel. take that and those 300 jobs out and it will have a huge effect on the area. rishi sunak will face keir starmer and other mps at the dispatch box at prime minister's questions — we'll bring you that live. let's speak to our political correspondent lone wells. what are you expecting to be raised at the chamber this afternoon? fine at the chamber this afternoon? one ofthe at the chamber this afternoon? one of the ke at the chamber this afternoon? (he: of the key issues at the chamber this afternoon? qua: of the key issues that at the chamber this afternoon? ©1a: of the key issues that will be raised today is the current lack of a new deal with the eu over trading agreements for northern ireland. rishi sunak will not be able to come to prime minister's questions armed with what the government hoped they would have this week, a signed and sealed the deal with the eu to try to resolve some of those trading issues between great britain and northern ireland that have resulted as part of that post—brexit trading
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deal with the eu. i think it is likely that the labour leader sir keir starmer will remind the government of this but also remind rishi sunak of labour�*s offer to support the government in getting any deal that they do manage to agree through parliament. if they cannot guarantee the support of some of their own conservative backbench mps. where we are at the moment, essentially the government is continuing to thrash out negotiations with the eu to try and get that deal but there are several keyissues get that deal but there are several key issues on the government's mind at the moment and we may get a flavour of some of those at pmqs as well today. one of those is that the government once any deal that they reach to try to appease the dup in northern ireland who are currently refusing to go back into government until they do get a deal that they are happy with as well. secondly, there is this issue of whether some of the more hard lined brexit here tory mps would be happy with any deal as well. i think it will be interesting to watch if we can get
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any reaction from tory mps or dup mps today. we will have full coverage of prime minister's questions. you are watching bbc news. the powerful tropical cyclone freddy lashing the island of madagascar has killed at least four people. teachers in parts of england are going ahead with planned strikes next week — despite an offer from the government to hold talks about pay. the education secretary gillian keegan said she would start formal pay talks with the national education union as long as it called off its industrial action, but it refused.
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we sincerely regret the disruption to children's education that will take place and the disruption to parents working lives and their home lives but we hope the parents will understand that we are taking this action with an aim in mind stopping the problems for teacher recruitment and retention which are growing because of workload but also because of the pay situation in our schools. the health secretary, stephen barclay, is to meet representatives of the royal college of nursing this morning after the union suspended a strike planned for next week in england. following months of disputes, the two sides have said they would begin 'intensive talks' on pay, terms and conditions, and reforms. government proposals for next year's public sector pay are also being drawn up. here's our health correspondent, sophie hutchinson. no ifs, no buts, no nhs cuts! after a winter of strikes, finally, a glimmer of hope.
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nurses who've carried out six individual walk—outs, and who were planning to increase the pressure with the biggest, longest strike so far in england, have agreed to pause the action. now, instead of striking, today, leaders from the royal college of nursing will meet for intensive talks with ministers and officials. i've always said i wouldn't negotiate in public. the prime minister has now got the table prepared. we will be there and we will enter those negotiations in good faith as soon as they start. how successful will they be? initially, nurses had asked for a pay increase of 5% above inflation. since then, their union, the rcn, has said it would meet the government halfway. on the other side, ministers had insisted they would not renegotiate this year's pay deal. but a source close to the negotiations has said
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they may consider backdating a deal. pressure on the government has been ramping up, with ever bigger strikes planned, and junior doctors in england now deciding tojoin the picket lines. we need to see further progress made. there are, of course, other unions planning to take action, and we want to see industrial action across the nhs resolved, in order for the nhs to focus on the things that it wants to for patients. the desire to reach an agreement and avert more pain is perhaps understandable. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. news coming in, a teacher has been stabbed to death in france. in bordeaux in the south—west of
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france. country's education minister is on his way to the scene, saying, my thoughts are with the family, colleagues and pupils. i will be going to the site straightaway. but as a teacher who has been stabbed to death by a pupil at a high school in south—west of france. president biden will finish his trip to poland today by holding talks with the leaders of countries who sit along nato's eastern flank — from estonia to bulgaria. the meeting with the group — which is known as as the bucharest nine — will concentrate on regional defence and the supply of more aid to ukraine. our eastern europe correspondent sarah rainsford is in warsaw. just telus a bit more about what the president will do today and who he will meet. , , ., , ., president will do today and who he willmeet. , , ., ., ., will meet. this is really a follow on to that _ will meet. this is really a follow on to that big — will meet. this is really a follow on to that big speech _ will meet. this is really a follow on to that big speech that - will meet. this is really a follow on to that big speech that joe i will meet. this is really a follow - on to that big speech that joe biden on to that big speech thatjoe biden made here last night when he addressed a crowd of several thousand on the embankment and
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talked about the unwavering commitment of the us and nato of course to supporting ukraine in its war against russia and the follow on is this meeting here of the bucharest mine, an informal grouping of countries on the eastern flank of nato, many of them like poland itself, border ukraine, who have a close history of talking about russian aggression and a lot of worry about the threat from russia historically. now they are here to give the message, i think, that this region wants to see strong support for ukraine in its war, they want to see an increase in military support and also, they want to hear from the us and nato as a whole that they are committed to guaranteeing the security of this region, given the strong thread that they feel here from russia to the east. just to explain that to you with one example, we were on the eastern
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border of poland in the last few days and we spoke to a farmer who talked about how nervous people where there about the war spilling over the borderfrom ukraine. there was a missile that hit polish soil in november and killed two farmers so people are worried and that is why we also saw missile systems being operated by german troops on opponents being operated by german troops on opponent's instant border to protect against that very escalation the people are worried about. just standin: people are worried about. just standing back, _ people are worried about. just standing back, how would you assess the significance of this visit to the significance of this visit to the region byjoe biden? he went to kiva, he went to ukraine, he has beenin kiva, he went to ukraine, he has been in poland and resell him last night with a defiant speech, how much has had meant to people there in poland and also ukraine? i much has had meant to people there in poland and also ukraine?- in poland and also ukraine? i think it has meant— in poland and also ukraine? i think it has meant a _ in poland and also ukraine? i think it has meant a lot. _ in poland and also ukraine? i think it has meant a lot. certainly - in poland and also ukraine? i think it has meant a lot. certainly for. it has meant a lot. certainly for ukraine, hugely important and symbolic thatjoe biden actually went there. a big surprise visit that they were not expecting. here
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in poland and in this region, i think it is a very important that poland is basking in the limelight, it is the second visit by a us president in under a year and joe biden has come here, he said this is the critical relationship, he used that word for times. he also thanked poland for its support for ukraine. poland for its support for ukraine. poland has become a much louder voice from this region from nato, from the eu indeed, in leading cause to support, to back, to arm ukraine. we sought ukrainian soldiers here in poland training on leopard two battle tanks being provided by nato and that was something that poland pushed for and eventually europe and nato is providing. a real moment for poland on the international stage and emphasising its new role and status as it does seem that nato as a whole is pushing now, pivoting towards the east.
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more than 60,000 adults with disabilities and long—term illnesses in england were chased for debts by councils last year, more than 60,000 adults with disabilities and long—term after failing to pay for their social care support at home. claimants say they can't afford the charges amid rising food and rent prices, along with the additional costs of living with disabilities. councils maintain they only take action as a "last option". here's our social affairs editor, alison holt. this has become julia brosnan's world. most of her days are spent within the four walls of her bedroom. she has back problems, severe mobility issues, and a rare skin condition. i can't cook for myself any more. i can't carry things. i can barely walk, because my legs are numb and they don't hold me. her local council charges her nearly £60 a week for the 13 hours of care they provide her with. going through her bills, she says
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she simply can't afford to pay. she gets about £300 a week in benefits. that covers her household bills and the extra costs of the creams, air filters and specialised food she needs. basically, ijust stop opening their letters because i can't do anything about it. i haven't got the money to give them. julia now owes the council £4,700, and it's taking legal action against her. she's constantly worried the bailiffs will be knocking on her door. you know, i can't see a way ahead. and that's upsetting? i try not to think that way. you know, i'm always trying to be positive. but the fight is wearing me out, and making me more ill. nearly 80 out ofjust over 150 councils in england responded to a bbc request for data about the numbers, likejulia, struggling to pay care charges.
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in the last financial year, more than 60,000 people with disabilities and care needs were chased by councils because they'd run up debts. legal action was taken in 330 cases. disability campaigners say it is a sign of how difficult life has become. basic foodstuffs have gone up, rents have increased. i think they're expecting people to live on very, very little money if you want social care, and that is discriminatory. we provide the very best care that we can for them - for the money that we have. but there is only so much money in the system. - councils say rising demand and squeezed budgets mean they have to collect money that is owed. but legal action is a last resort. what the councils should be doing, and i think the vast majority of- councils do in the vast majority of cases, is that they work- with residents to find a solution, to find the financial route - through this, so that it is i a fair and equitable system. and julia's council, east sussex, maintains it does that with its clients. but until a solution is found
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in her case, she says she lives with constant worry. i'm just surviving, you know. that's how my life is. i keep thinking, well, one day they might wake up and realise, actually, i can't pay it. alison holt, bbc news. we can now speak to svetlana kotova from the charity inclusion london, which has been campaigning on this issue. i cannot pay it, as we heard at the end of that report, yet about 60,000 people are being chased for debts? yes, to us, this is really important and often overlooked. people on the lowest income, because income only comes from benefits, are forced to pay for care and to give up to 40% of what they get in benefits for care charging. we think this is just
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really wrong and the government cannot give with one hand and take with another. these are people with very high support needs, many of whom will not be able to work or supplement their income in any other way. pushing them into dire poverty by taking their money away to pay for very basic support they need to live a life, is wrong. this why disabled people call care charging a tax on the city. disabled people call care charging a tax on the city-— tax on the city. what are some of the country _ tax on the city. what are some of the country beating _ tax on the city. what are some of the country beating factors? - tax on the city. what are some of the country beating factors? it i tax on the city. what are some of the country beating factors? it is| the country beating factors? it is inflation presumably which is over 10% at the moment, high—energy costs and so on and so on? yes. 10% at the moment, high-energy costs and so on and so on?— and so on and so on? yes, of course now with the — and so on and so on? yes, of course now with the cost _ and so on and so on? yes, of course now with the cost of _ and so on and so on? yes, of course now with the cost of living _ and so on and so on? yes, of course now with the cost of living crisis, i now with the cost of living crisis, disabled people have higher energy needs because they need to operate equipment, many of them need to keep warm to manage their health condition but then there are also extra disability costs that people
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have. we estimated it to be £600 a month and for people with higher support needs, many of whom are those people who get social care, those people who get social care, those costs are up to 1,000. people are left with so much less that they cannot afford to live like this. it is true, we see many cases where people are literally choosing between heating, eating and essential care they need. we heard from the local _ essential care they need. we heard from the local government - essential care they need. we heard i from the local government assocation there, representing councils, that they have two chase these debts but in the end, it is only a very last resort that they take legal action, do you accept that? we resort that they take legal action, do you accept that?— resort that they take legal action, do you accept that? we have seen cases where _ do you accept that? we have seen cases where they _ do you accept that? we have seen cases where they take _ do you accept that? we have seen cases where they take legal i do you accept that? we have seenj cases where they take legal action and there is a wider problem because there are many people who just cannot afford it and they receive letters asking them to pay and threatening legal action.
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they are frightened to go to councils and ask for help even when they struggle because they are worried that this will make things even worse for them.— worried that this will make things even worse for them. thank you very much forjoining _ even worse for them. thank you very much forjoining us. _ now it's time for a look at the weather with matt taylor. for some, the grey and murky conditions will continue. patchy rain and drizzle. elsewhere, those guys continue to dry up. showers into scotland and northern ireland which could be wintry over the hills. temperatures peaking at around nine to 11 degrees but by the
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end of the afternoon, it will feel cooler than that as the north—westerly wins in. a chillier night tonight. shari raine pushing south and the odd bit of sleet on the tops of the highest hills about anywhere from mid—wales northwards, with clearing skies, frost and maybe some ice potential into tomorrow morning. a sunny start in these areas. showery rain becoming confined to the channel islands. scotland and northern ireland, cloudy. temperatures not that vastly different to today but with a slight wind and in the sunshine, it should not feel too bad. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines: shamima begum, who left london as a schoolgirl tojoin islamic state, loses her appeal against the removal of her british citizenship. british steel has announced the closure of its coking ovens
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in scunthorpe, with the loss of 300 jobs. struggling to fund the cost of social care, and how people with disabilities end up facing legal action because they can't afford to pay. the government is meeting officials from the royal college of nursing today, to start what have been described as "intensive talks" on pay, terms and conditions. sport now, and a full round—up from the bbc sport centre. don't talk about the liverpool result, because it was a disaster. i'm afraid it will come up at some point! a decision is expected later today on whether wales against england will go ahead this saturday in the six nations. the wales players have set today as the final deadline to come to an agreement with the wru to agree terms of a new contract, or they'll go on strike. welsh coach warren gatland
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is hopeful both sides can come to an agreement and delayed naming his team yesterday. rugby commentator gareth rhys owen says the players are after some key assurances. specifically, the idea that wages would be reduced, but in addition 80% basic guaranteed, 20% dependent on player performances. how many games they play, how many games they win. if you look at the context right now, rugby players are being told they after day, due to concussion and injury, they need to manage their workload, they need to sit these games out if they are not feeling 100%. these contracts are suggesting the very opposite. i don't think the union and the regions will come to an agreement today, but the hope will be that the players are given some assurances or players are given some assurances 01’ some players are given some assurances or some draft contracts that would appease them and allow this game to
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go ahead on saturday. one other rugby union line to bring you, and leicester tigers have appointed australian dan mckellar as their head coach for the 2023—24 season. the 46—year—old had been part of eddiejones' coaching set—up at australia but now moves to the premiership title holders as the permanent replacement for steve borthwick, who left for the england job in december. jurgen klopp says liverpool must take the positives from last night's 5—2 home defeat to real madrid in the champions league last 16 first leg. liverpool were 2—0 up early in the match before defensive mistakes left the tie heavily in the spanish giants' favour. but the german coach says he saw plenty of improvement in the performance and hopes to get back to winning ways away at crystal palace on saturday. we have to take the good things as welt _ we have to take the good things as welt it_ we have to take the good things as well. it would be horrible if you don't _ well. it would be horrible if you don't do — well. it would be horrible if you don't do that. it is a different game —
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don't do that. it is a different game at _ don't do that. it is a different game at palace, of course. but the intensity. _ game at palace, of course. but the intensity, the effort we showed, the football _ intensity, the effort we showed, the football we played, pretty much everything was like we want to see for ourselves. so we have to make sure _ for ourselves. so we have to make sure that _ for ourselves. so we have to make sure that we — for ourselves. so we have to make sure that we keep that. i know, 5—2 could _ sure that we keep that. i know, 5—2 could be _ sure that we keep that. i know, 5—2 could be damaging, but i hope i can make _ could be damaging, but i hope i can make your— could be damaging, but i hope i can make your that is not the case. there are concerns that closure of leisure centres, gyms and pools because of the on—going energy price crisis, will increase the risks of drownings and harm britain's long—term olympic medal prospects. that's according to double olympic swimming champion rebecca adlington. she has joined 200 sports organisations and athletes in signing a letter which has been sent to the prime minister today. it contains a stark warning that government plans to cut the sector's funding support in april will leave grass routes clubs struggling to pay to use facilities and many lose access with some venues forced to shut permanently.
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it will happen, isn't it? across not only swimming but other sports as well to be shutdown for two years with coronavirus, and now on the back of this, facilities are closing up back of this, facilities are closing up and down the country. it has that knock—on effect for grassroots sports and then affecting the elite programme. there are fantastic sports that happen at the olympics, but it is one of those that we will start to see less and less, especially over the upcoming olympics, just because, how can people go to olympics for swimming if there are no swimming holes? —— no swimming pools? the international olympic committee says it wants to see a "strong team" from ukraine at next year's olympics games. ukraine has threatened to pull out of paris 2024 if the ioc allows russian athletes to compete. it comes as 30 nations including the uk have signed a pledge to support to an ongoing ban on russian and belarusian athletics
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from competing in international sporting events. this morning the ioc released a statement stating the olympic games can set an example for a world where everyone respects the same rules and one another. that's all the sport for now. ido i do apologise about the item. apology accepted, we will get over it. thank you. two british supermarket chains are restricting the amount of some fruits and vegetables that customers can buy, in response to recent shortages of fresh produce. shoppers at asda and morrisons will face limits on the number of cucumbers, peppers and tomatoes that they can take home. the supply problems — which are also affecting ireland — have largely been caused by extreme weather conditions in northern africa and southern spain, the regions from which the uk gets a large part of these products at this time of year. our business correspondent, marc ashdown, has more. if you've been to do your weekly shop in the past few days, you might have noticed a few gaps. social media has been awash
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with pictures from frustrated shoppers of empty shelves in the fresh fruit and veg aisle. now, some of the big supermarkets are taking steps to protect supplies. in asda, you can now only buy three each of tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, lettuce, salad bags, broccoli, cauliflower and raspberries. and in morrisons, from today, shoppers will be limited to two each of tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce and peppers. the supermarkets say extreme weather in european countries where they source their produce has impacted supply chains. they say the measures are to make sure all customers can still get hold of fruit and veg. we're thinking about some disruption maybe for the next fortnight or so, just a little bit less availability than you'd normally see in your supermarkets. but supermarkets are great at sorting through these challenges. we saw that during the pandemic. they'll be finding different suppliers to get more produce onto the shelves. but also, after sort of...
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when we get into march and beyond, then we get a lot more of our product here in the uk, which makes it much easier. when there were food and fuel supply issues last year, the government's own office for budget responsibility said brexit had made things worse than in other countries. this time, some retail analysts say the problems are down to high energy costs, and extreme hot and cold weather affecting crops across europe. supermarkets say the imminent start of the uk growing season will help them maintain supplies in the spring. but the national farmers' union says the industry needs more support. the more we face shortages, the more it will drive food inflation. we've got to come up with a way of making sure we can keep producing what the nation needs. we've got 70 million people in this country. it's an island nation. food security needs to be taken really seriously. so far, none of the other major supermarkets have introduced limits. asda and morrisons say the temporary measures should only need to be in place for a matter of weeks. mark ashdown, bbc news.
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i'm joined now by tom holder, a spokesman for the british retail consortium. we are hearing that this is a limited problem for a limited amount of time. is there a danger that people might start panic buying in other shops? people might start panic buying in othershops? i people might start panic buying in other shops?— other shops? i don't think people should, these _ other shops? i don't think people should, these are _ other shops? i don't think people should, these are not _ other shops? i don't think people should, these are not the - other shops? i don't think people should, these are not the kind i other shops? i don't think people should, these are not the kind of| should, these are not the kind of items which you need to stock up ten or 15 cucumbers, and they don't particularly store well. the reason why those limits have been put in place is not really aimed at the ordinary customer, it is to prevent some restaurants or a cafe is that might be getting those items and are having problems with their own supply chains going to their local supermarket and sort of grabbing a whole load, meaning that customers have to go without. it is a temporary measure as we find new suppliers to provide those salad vegetables and also to get us over as we approach the uk growing season. , , , ., ., ,
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season. this is predominantly caused, season. this is predominantly caused. as — season. this is predominantly caused, as we _ season. this is predominantly caused, as we were _ season. this is predominantly caused, as we were saying i season. this is predominantly i caused, as we were saying there, by cold weather in morocco and spain, is that right?— is that right? yes, that is where we aet most is that right? yes, that is where we get most of — is that right? yes, that is where we get most of those _ is that right? yes, that is where we get most of those salad _ is that right? yes, that is where we | get most of those salad vegetables, cucumbers, lettuces, peppers. morocco is a bit of a back—up. but the weather has affected both the main country we get it from other back—up country, causing issues with supply chain for those items. we have heard that this kind of highlights dangers with uk food security, ourfood chain is not as stable and guaranteed as we think it is. �* ., , ., �* , . is. i'm not sure that's true. we see, b is. i'm not sure that's true. we see. by and — is. i'm not sure that's true. we see, by and large, _ is. i'm not sure that's true. we see, by and large, the - is. i'm not sure that's true. we see, by and large, the items . is. i'm not sure that's true. we i see, by and large, the items that people want to buy are available all year round when they want to buy them. that is testament to the resilience and strength of those supply chains. the fact we are all in arms because we can't get
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tomatoes, which are not a traditional winter vegetable in the uk, all year round for a few weeks showed just how good it is most of the time. so i don't think people need to worry on the resilience front. we have incredibly sophisticated supply chains that are effective at getting the items customers want all year round. 50 customers want all year round. so basically you are saying this is a short—term problem, we don't need to be too worried about it? short-term problem, we don't need to be too worried about it?— be too worried about it? absolutely. peole be too worried about it? absolutely. people need — be too worried about it? absolutely. people need to _ be too worried about it? absolutely. people need to be _ be too worried about it? absolutely. people need to be patient, - be too worried about it? absolutely. | people need to be patient, purchased responsibly and be patient with shop staff whose fault it isn't that there are fewer items in the shops. 0k, thank you. so far, three candidates have put themselves forward to replace nicola sturgeon as first minister of scotland.
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kate forbes, ash regan and humza yousaf have launched campaigns to become the next snp leader, and a series of other prominent names have ruled themselves out. kate forbes has insisted that her campaign is still on track, despite losing the backing of several government ministers over her opposition to gay marriage. key backers of the finance secretary have withdrawn their support, after she said she would have voted against same—sex unions if she'd have been at holyrood when the legislation was passed. our scotland correspondent, alexandra mackenzie, joins me now. this is turning out to be a fascinating contest, isn't it? we have those contenders so far and we don't know how much longer kate forbes, for example will be in the race. , , , ., race. yes, she is remaining in the race. yes, she is remaining in the race for now. _ race. yes, she is remaining in the race for now, and _ race. yes, she is remaining in the race for now, and it _ race. yes, she is remaining in the race for now, and it has _ race. yes, she is remaining in the race for now, and it hasjust i race. yes, she is remaining in the race for now, and it hasjust been j race. yes, she is remaining in the i race for now, and it hasjust been a race for now, and it has just been a week since nicola sturgeon announced her resignation. it seems a lot longer since that happened, because a lot has happened since then. we
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have been getting a lot of reaction to kate forbes' comments over the last couple of days and this morning we heard from the first minister, we don't have that interview yet, but i have some of the comments. nicola sturgeon has said that the views of the next first minister of scotland do matter, as people look to the leader to see someone who will stand up leader to see someone who will stand up for them and their rights to stop nicola sturgeon also said that scotland is a socially progressive country, and that is the majority opinion. those the words of nicola sturgeon. she said, of the finance secretary, capes —— kate forbes, she will face reaction to whatever she has said, and the first minister will be put under continued pressure to respond to questions on their views. the first minister was also
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joined by angus robertson this morning, he has said that he will not be standing was that when asked again if he would change his mind, he said he would not be changing his mind on that. the deputy first minister, john swinney, was also speaking on radio scotland this morning. he said this would impact negatively on kate forbes's campaign, he questioned whether it would be appropriate for someone with her views to be snp leader, but he didn't: her to pull out. john swinney has previously been first minister, he decided not to run. if asked he would change his mind, it didn't sound like keyword. the free church of scotland, of which kate forbes is a member, they have also put out a statement saying that it
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was composed of people from all political persuasions, some of whom will not share kate's politics, particularly over an independent scotland. they also said they were concerned at the level of anti—christian intolerance, which has been displayed, they said, on social media and by some political and media commentators. so lots of reaction on this. i think this is an argument that is going to play out quite prominently in the next hours and days. i'm sure it is. thank you for that update. interesting to hear, in particular, what nicola sturgeon has been saying. england's health secretary, stephen barclay, is meeting representatives of the royal college of nursing after the union suspended a strike planned for next week. following months of disputes, the two sides have said they would begin "intensive talks" on pay, terms and conditions, and reforms. government proposals for next year's public sector pay in england
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are also being drawn up. here's our health correspondent, sophie hutchinson. no ifs, no buts, no nhs cuts! after a winter of strikes, finally, a glimmer of hope. nurses who've carried out six individual walk—outs, and who were planning to increase the pressure with the biggest, longest strike so far in england, have agreed to pause the action. now, instead of striking, today, leaders from the royal college of nursing will meet for intensive talks with ministers and officials. i've always said i wouldn't negotiate in public. the prime minister has now got the table prepared. we will be there and we will enter those negotiations in good faith as soon as they start. and we will make sure that no stone is left unturned, to make sure that that fair pay deal is reached as quickly as possible, so that we can bring a conclusion to these strikes. how successful will they be? initially, nurses had asked for a pay increase of 5% above inflation.
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since then, their union, the rcn, has said it would meet the government halfway. on the other side, ministers had insisted they would not renegotiate this year's pay deal. but a source close to the negotiations has said they may consider backdating a deal. pressure on the government has been ramping up, with ever bigger strikes planned, and junior doctors in england now deciding tojoin the picket lines. we need to see further progress made. there are, of course, other unions planning to take action, and we want to see industrial action across the nhs resolved, in order for the nhs to focus on the things that it wants to for patients. the desire to reach an agreement and avert more pain is perhaps understandable. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. let's speak now to onay kasab, national lead officer of the union unite.
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thank you very much indeed for being with us. tell us about your union's position, vis—a—vis the pay talks. thank you for having the on the programme. unfortunately, unite the union has not been invited to any pay talks. we have to remember that as well as the nurses, there are other workers at the nhs, at the nhs, if you like, is a family, one part cannot function without the others. what about the ambulance workers, the cleaners, porters, the care assistance? we haven't had any invitation from the government to discuss pay. invitation from the government to discuss pay-— discuss pay. why do you think the nurses have. _ discuss pay. why do you think the nurses have, in _ discuss pay. why do you think the nurses have, in the _ discuss pay. why do you think the nurses have, in the form - discuss pay. why do you think the nurses have, in the form of i discuss pay. why do you think the nurses have, in the form of the i nurses have, in the form of the royal college of nursing? they are suspending their proposed strike action. would you do the same? we haven't action. would you do the same? - haven't had an invitation. why the
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government has chosen to invite only the rcn, you would have to ask the government. we are willing to sit down, we are prepared to negotiate. we haven't had that invitation. the government's submission to the 23—24 pay body, putting forward 3.5%, which is little more than a sick joke in our view, doesn't really bode well for the future and going forward. but i will say this again today. if we are invited to talks, we will sit down and negotiate. but there was no invitation for the union to attend the talks. if there were an invitation _ union to attend the talks. if there were an invitation to _ union to attend the talks. if there were an invitation to talks - union to attend the talks. if there were an invitation to talks and i union to attend the talks. if there| were an invitation to talks and the government said, come and talk to us, but please pause any proposed strike action, would you do that? would you suspend the proposed industrial action? that would you suspend the proposed industrial action?—
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would you suspend the proposed industrial action? that would be a decision for _ industrial action? that would be a decision for our _ industrial action? that would be a decision for our members - industrial action? that would be a decision for our members to i industrial action? that would be a l decision for our members to make. let's get the invite to the meeting, lets get invited to that meeting first of also we can put that to our members. we have to get past that first step first of all. as i said, the government's submission to the pay review body does not bode well going forward. in fact, what it does do is it signals that what we will end up with is more strikes going forward into the spring, if that is all they are willing to put forward. so you are saying that... i mean, this proposal of 3.5% from the government review board, it is not enough? a lot of people are wondering, there must be some sort of area, a landing zone as it has been called, where there could be potential compromise in terms of what the government offer and what the health unions are prepared to accept. £31 the health unions are prepared to accet. .., , , the health unions are prepared to accet. u, , , ., accept. of course there will be a landin: accept. of course there will be a landing zone. — accept. of course there will be a landing zone. a _
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accept. of course there will be a landing zone, a compromise, i accept. of course there will be a i landing zone, a compromise, whatever you want to call it. we have been involved in over 500 disputes over the years, they have been a lot of negotiations and compromises that have led to wins for our members. we are willing to sit down and compromise, but there is a big difference between 3.5% and the rpi rate of inflation, which is running at over 13%. when we are in dispute already, when the government knows how angry people are about pain in the nhs and we have said what the impact of this is on the level of vacancies, of the level of service in the nhs, for the government to talk about 3.5% is a sickjoke. ok. talk about 3.596 is a sick 'oke. ok, the rive talk about 3.596 is a sick 'oke. ok, they give very * talk about 3.5% is a sickjoke. 0k, they give very much for being with us —— thank you very much. we can take you to moscow now because there is a big concert under way, lots of russian flags being
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waved their scenes in moscow ahead of russian president b putin giving a speech ahead of the anniversary of the invasion of ukraine, which is on friday. a concept there, as you can see, and more scenes of patriotically further in moscow as russia approaches that anniversary of the invasion of ukraine that president putin ordered a year ago, where so many people on both sides have died. ukrainians and russians, soldiers and civilians. president putin blames the west. the war, ukraine for provoking the war, then we heard from president biden in warsaw, saying that, if anything, the west is more united than ever in
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its determination to resist what he called autocracy. we can take you to the house of commons for prime minister is questions. this government's _ minister is questions. t1; government's commitment to scotland... you are watching politics live. it is under ten minutes until prime minister's questions with the prime minister, and the leader of the opposition. while we are on the subject of politics, one of the things nicola sturgeon said was that things nicola sturgeon said was that things have got worse. it has things nicola sturgeon said was that things have got worse.— things have got worse. it has got immeasurably — things have got worse. it has got immeasurably worse. _ things have got worse. it has got immeasurably worse. people i things have got worse. it has got i immeasurably worse. people seem to be prepared to say all kinds of things to you, notjust online but in person as well, by e—mail, all those kinds of things. that makes it difficult for women in politics,
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because any abuse that a politician gets, for a woman there is an extra layer of misogyny on top of that. there is a layer of racism for some as well. it there is a layer of racism for some as well. , , ., . ., i. as well. it is very toxic. have you noticed that _ as well. it is very toxic. have you noticed that as _ as well. it is very toxic. have you noticed that as well? _ as well. it is very toxic. have you noticed that as well? i _ as well. it is very toxic. have you noticed that as well? i have i as well. it is very toxic. have you noticed that as well? i have only| noticed that as well? i have only been in parliament _ noticed that as well? i have only been in parliament since - noticed that as well? i have only been in parliament since 2019. l noticed that as well? i have only been in parliament since 2019. i | noticed that as well? i have only i been in parliament since 2019. i do -et been in parliament since 2019. i do get abuse. — been in parliament since 2019. i do get abuse, but it is standard, sorry -- tory— get abuse, but it is standard, sorry -- tory some — get abuse, but it is standard, sorry —— tory some stuff. social media is driving _ —— tory some stuff. social media is driving it. _ —— tory some stuff. social media is driving it. our— —— tory some stuff. social media is driving it, our divisive politics is making — driving it, our divisive politics is making it — driving it, our divisive politics is making it worse. we need to be clear that it _ making it worse. we need to be clear that it is _ making it worse. we need to be clear that it is unacceptable to rate public — that it is unacceptable to rate public figures personally in the way that happens. that said, we need to put up _ that happens. that said, we need to put up with— that happens. that said, we need to put up with a fair degree of criticism _
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put up with a fair degree of criticism. i can well imagine that nicola _ criticism. i can well imagine that nicola sturgeon has had enough of it. i nicola sturgeon has had enough of it. ., ~ ., nicola sturgeon has had enough of it. i do think that did contribute? i think there _ it. i do think that did contribute? i think there are _ it. i do think that did contribute? i think there are a _ it. i do think that did contribute? i think there are a range - it. i do think that did contribute? i think there are a range of i i think there are a range of different things that contributed to her decision, but i think that is one of them. is her decision, but i think that is one of them.— her decision, but i think that is one of them. is it getting worse? eve one one of them. is it getting worse? everyone says — one of them. is it getting worse? everyone says it _ one of them. is it getting worse? everyone says it is _ one of them. is it getting worse? everyone says it is getting - one of them. is it getting worse? | everyone says it is getting worse, it probably — everyone says it is getting worse, it probably is _ everyone says it is getting worse, it probably is was _ everyone says it is getting worse, it probably is was to _ everyone says it is getting worse, it probably is was to be _ everyone says it is getting worse, it probably is was to he get - everyone says it is getting worse, it probably is was to he get a i everyone says it is getting worse, it probably is was to he get a bit. it probably is was to he get a bit of it as — it probably is was to he get a bit of it as a — it probably is was to he get a bit of it as a reporter, _ it probably is was to he get a bit of it as a reporter, but - it probably is was to he get a bit of it as a reporter, but nowhere| of it as a reporter, but nowhere near _ of it as a reporter, but nowhere near as— of it as a reporter, but nowhere near as bad _ of it as a reporter, but nowhere near as bad. you _ of it as a reporter, but nowhere near as bad. you still— of it as a reporter, but nowhere near as bad. you still get - of it as a reporter, but nowhere near as bad. you still get a i of it as a reporter, but nowhere near as bad. you still get a fair| near as bad. you still get a fair bit of— near as bad. you still get a fair bit of it— near as bad. you still get a fair bit of it on— near as bad. you still get a fair bit of it on twitter _ near as bad. you still get a fair bit of it on twitter and - near as bad. you still get a fair bit of it on twitter and e—maill near as bad. you still get a fair. bit of it on twitter and e—mail to stop— bit of it on twitter and e—mail to stop it _ bit of it on twitter and e—mail to stop it is — bit of it on twitter and e—mail to stop it is gross _ bit of it on twitter and e—mail to stop it is gross and _ bit of it on twitter and e—mail to stop it is gross and depressing i bit of it on twitter and e—mail to i stop it is gross and depressing and i know— stop it is gross and depressing and i know lots— stop it is gross and depressing and i know lots of— stop it is gross and depressing and i know lots of people _ stop it is gross and depressing and i know lots of people who - stop it is gross and depressing and i know lots of people who were i i know lots of people who were incredibly— i know lots of people who were incredibly interested _ i know lots of people who were incredibly interested in - i know lots of people who were | incredibly interested in politics, checks — incredibly interested in politics, checks what _ incredibly interested in politics, checks what people _ incredibly interested in politics, checks what people go - incredibly interested in politics, checks what people go into, i incredibly interested in politics, | checks what people go into, but incredibly interested in politics, i checks what people go into, but they would _ checks what people go into, but they would resist — checks what people go into, but they would resist the _ checks what people go into, but they would resist the idea _ checks what people go into, but they would resist the idea of— checks what people go into, but they would resist the idea of going - checks what people go into, but they would resist the idea of going into. would resist the idea of going into parliament— would resist the idea of going into parliament as _ would resist the idea of going into parliament as an _ would resist the idea of going into parliament as an mp _ would resist the idea of going into parliament as an mp and - would resist the idea of going into parliament as an mp and it - would resist the idea of going into parliament as an mp and it is- parliament as an mp and it is getting — parliament as an mp and it is getting poorer— parliament as an mp and it is getting poorer for— parliament as an mp and it is getting poorer for it. - parliament as an mp and it is getting poorer for it. i- parliament as an mp and it is getting poorer for it. i don't. parliament as an mp and it is- getting poorer for it. i don't know how you — getting poorer for it. i don't know how you solve _ getting poorer for it. i don't know how you solve it, _ getting poorer for it. i don't know how you solve it, it _ getting poorer for it. i don't know how you solve it, it is _ getting poorer for it. i don't know how you solve it, it is a _ getting poorer for it. i don't know how you solve it, it is a shame. . how you solve it, it is a shame. keir_ how you solve it, it is a shame. keir starmer— how you solve it, it is a shame. keir starmer talking _ how you solve it, it is a shame. keir starmer talking about - how you solve it, it is a shame. keir starmer talking about his. keir starmer talking about his loathing of borisjohnson. you surprised by that? 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loathing of boris johnson. you surprised by that?— loathing of boris johnson. you surprised by that? no, i saw that loathin: surprised by that? no, i saw that loathing first _ surprised by that? no, i saw that loathing first hand. _ surprised by that? no, i saw that loathing first hand. he _ surprised by that? no, i saw that loathing first hand. he had - surprised by that? no, i saw that loathing first hand. he had a - surprised by that? no, i saw that| loathing first hand. he had a huge out respect for theresa may, and i think he would say the same about rishi sunak, but there was... they were very different characters, so i wasn't surprised one bit. triers? were very different characters, so i wasn't surprised one bit. new work for boris johnson _ wasn't surprised one bit. new work for boris johnson at _ wasn't surprised one bit. new work for boris johnson at one _ wasn't surprised one bit. new work for boris johnson at one stage, - wasn't surprised one bit. new work for boris johnson at one stage, do | for borisjohnson at one stage, do you think he loathed keir starmer? no, he is not a hater. i don't think he despises — no, he is not a hater. i don't think he despises anybody, which is part of his— he despises anybody, which is part of his appeal. people genuinely saw him as— of his appeal. people genuinely saw him as a _ of his appeal. people genuinely saw him as a generous character. he had all sorts— him as a generous character. he had all sorts of— him as a generous character. he had all sorts of flaws, but i don't think— all sorts of flaws, but i don't think he _ all sorts of flaws, but i don't think he was filled with hate. he invited _ think he was filled with hate. he invited it. — think he was filled with hate. he invited it, that's for sure. it was a pretty— invited it, that's for sure. it was a pretty depressing sight, the amount— a pretty depressing sight, the amount of vitriol he get from mps who hated — amount of vitriol he get from mps who hated him at a personal level and that— who hated him at a personal level and that was a shame. is who hated him at a personal level and that was a shame.- and that was a shame. is loathing the wron: and that was a shame. is loathing the wrong word, _ and that was a shame. is loathing the wrong word, then, _ and that was a shame. is loathing | the wrong word, then, considering and that was a shame. is loathing - the wrong word, then, considering we are talking about the treatment of each other in the political sphere?
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i don't think it is. but i do agree with everything that has been said about the politics, it has got more toxic, it is far worse for female politicians and journalists, to be honest. this is not a call for sympathy, but even when i was an advisor, i got abuse online ad messages of hate. it is really tough, it is brutal, it is putting people off. i don't know how he would stop it, i would perhaps start by shutting twitter down. to think this is unusual or heartening?— to think this is unusual or hearteninu? , , , heartening? friendship across the barricades _ heartening? friendship across the barricades. ukraine _ heartening? friendship across the barricades. ukraine is _ heartening? friendship across the barricades. ukraine is a _ heartening? friendship across the barricades. ukraine is a special. barricades. ukraine is a special point, — barricades. ukraine is a special point, he — barricades. ukraine is a special point, he wants— barricades. ukraine is a special point, he wants to _ barricades. ukraine is a special point, he wants to make - barricades. ukraine is a special point, he wants to make a - barricades. ukraine is a special point, he wants to make a bigi barricades. ukraine is a special- point, he wants to make a big deal about— point, he wants to make a big deal about being — point, he wants to make a big deal about being pro—nato, _ point, he wants to make a big deal. about being pro—nato, pro—ukraine, willing _ about being pro—nato, pro—ukraine, willing to _ about being pro—nato, pro—ukraine, willing to work — about being pro—nato, pro—ukraine, willing to work together. _ about being pro—nato, pro—ukraine, willing to work together. that - about being pro—nato, pro—ukraine, willing to work together. that fits - willing to work together. that fits the nice _ willing to work together. that fits
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the nice thing _ willing to work together. that fits the nice thing. ukraine _ willing to work together. that fits the nice thing. ukraine really- the nice thing. ukraine really stands — the nice thing. ukraine really stands totally— the nice thing. ukraine really stands totally apart - the nice thing. ukraine really stands totally apart from - the nice thing. ukraine really- stands totally apart from politics here, _ stands totally apart from politics here, as — stands totally apart from politics here, as both— stands totally apart from politics here, as both leaders— stands totally apart from politics here, as both leaders have - stands totally apart from politics | here, as both leaders have made clear _ here, as both leaders have made clear l— here, as both leaders have made clear. ~ . here, as both leaders have made clear. ~' , . , clear. i think it is regrettable, we should be able _ clear. i think it is regrettable, we should be able to _ clear. i think it is regrettable, we should be able to use _ clear. i think it is regrettable, we should be able to use tough - should be able to use tough language, but i want to emphasise, these _ language, but i want to emphasise, these politicians talk all the time, we worked on a treasury select committee and on a personal level, david _ committee and on a personal level, david cameron and brown used to work together _ david cameron and brown used to work together. forall of david cameron and brown used to work together. for all of the abuse that is going _ together. for all of the abuse that is going on— together. for all of the abuse that is going on out there, i think we are quite — is going on out there, i think we are quite protected by the walls of westminster and people treat each other— westminster and people treat each other pretty well inside parliament. talking _ other pretty well inside parliament. talking of— other pretty well inside parliament. talking of human relationships, within the conservative party over the northern ireland protocol and the northern ireland protocol and the deal that the prime is hoping to announce this week, if not today, prevented by wings of the conservative party andy democratic
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unionist party, if the are to be believed. does it show his weakness that he has not been able to override those parts of the conservative party? irate override those parts of the conservative party? we are in the middle of a _ conservative party? we are in the middle of a negotiation _ conservative party? we are in the middle of a negotiation which - conservative party? we are in the middle of a negotiation which you | middle of a negotiation which you don't _ middle of a negotiation which you don't know the details of, so it is too early— don't know the details of, so it is too early to— don't know the details of, so it is too early to tell. he is a consensual politician, he wants to trring _ consensual politician, he wants to bring people along he has a challenge of reconciling the demands of the _ challenge of reconciling the demands of the eu _ challenge of reconciling the demands of the eu with a necessity of honouring the good friday agreement, which entails consent of both communities in northern ireland. that is— communities in northern ireland. that is why— communities in northern ireland. that is why the dup matter so much and it— that is why the dup matter so much and it will— that is why the dup matter so much and it will be difficult. they have been _ and it will be difficult. they have been constructive themselves and are honouring _ been constructive themselves and are honouring the process that the prime minister— honouring the process that the prime minister is _ honouring the process that the prime minister is leading, so let's see... should _ minister is leading, so let's see... should tell— minister is leading, so let's see... should tell three macro have brought the dup on—board from the beginning? there are conversations going on all the time _ there are conversations going on all the time with all of the parties in northern— the time with all of the parties in northern ireland.— the time with all of the parties in northern ireland. gavin barwell, the chief of staff — northern ireland. gavin barwell, the chief of staff for _ northern ireland. gavin barwell, the chief of staff for theresa _ northern ireland. gavin barwell, the chief of staff for theresa may, - northern ireland. gavin barwell, the chief of staff for theresa may, said l chief of staff for theresa may, said that it chief of staff for theresa may, said thatitis chief of staff for theresa may, said that it is been seven years now, it should be clear now that there is no
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no brexit where all of the uk is free to diverged from eu rules but the border between ireland and northern ireland stays as it is today full to view either accept a border between ireland or northern ireland or you have special arrangements or you have a soft brexit. which is it?— arrangements or you have a soft brexit. which is it? there will have to be an accepting _ brexit. which is it? there will have to be an accepting of— brexit. which is it? there will have to be an accepting of the _ brexit. which is it? there will have to be an accepting of the fact - brexit. which is it? there will have to be an accepting of the fact that| to be an accepting of the fact that they theresa may deal did not work. we are _ they theresa may deal did not work. we are now— they theresa may deal did not work. we are now in a new world where the northern— we are now in a new world where the northern ireland protocol is a residue — northern ireland protocol is a residue of that deal, it was understood that it was a temporary deal~ _ understood that it was a temporary deal~ l— understood that it was a temporary deal. . . understood that it was a temporary deal. . , . , ., , deal. i hear this about it being temporary- — deal. i hear this about it being temporary- l— deal. i hear this about it being temporary. i have _ deal. i hear this about it being temporary. i have not - deal. i hear this about it being temporary. i have not heard . deal. i hear this about it being i temporary. i have not heard that deal. i hear this about it being - temporary. i have not heard that at the time. when your colleague was sitting here yesterday, i don't remember that being a salient point when it was signed up to. absolutely it was a temporary _ when it was signed up to. absolutely it was a temporary arrangement, - when it was signed up to. absolutely it was a temporary arrangement, it l it was a temporary arrangement, it has always— it was a temporary arrangement, it has always supposed to have been there _ has always supposed to have been there for— has always supposed to have been there for a — has always supposed to have been there for a period. the opportunity now is— there for a period. the opportunity now is before us, with a genuinely
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good _ now is before us, with a genuinely good will— now is before us, with a genuinely good will and a constructive attitude _ good will and a constructive attitude from the government to try and resolve this, which was always going _ and resolve this, which was always going to _ and resolve this, which was always going to have to be resolved. not a big problem- _ going to have to be resolved. not a big problem. how— going to have to be resolved. iirrt — big problem. how dangerous is it for ten throw? i big problem. how dangerous is it for ten throw? ~ . ten throw? i think it is quite dangerous _ ten throw? i think it is quite dangerous. he _ ten throw? i think it is quite dangerous. he thinks - ten throw? i think it is quite dangerous. he thinks he - ten throw? i think it is quite| dangerous. he thinks he has ten throw? i think it is quite - dangerous. he thinks he has this new deal that— dangerous. he thinks he has this new deal that is— dangerous. he thinks he has this new deal that is a — dangerous. he thinks he has this new deal that is a matter— dangerous. he thinks he has this new deal that is a matter of _ dangerous. he thinks he has this new deal that is a matter of improvement| deal that is a matter of improvement and he _ deal that is a matter of improvement and he is _ deal that is a matter of improvement and he is trying — deal that is a matter of improvement and he is trying to— deal that is a matter of improvement and he is trying to sell— deal that is a matter of improvement and he is trying to sell that _ deal that is a matter of improvement and he is trying to sell that to - deal that is a matter of improvement and he is trying to sell that to the - and he is trying to sell that to the dup _ and he is trying to sell that to the dup it— and he is trying to sell that to the dup if he — and he is trying to sell that to the dup if he can— and he is trying to sell that to the dup. if he can do _ and he is trying to sell that to the dup. if he can do that, every- and he is trying to sell that to the| dup. if he can do that, every tory mp for— dup. if he can do that, every tory mp for follow. _ dup. if he can do that, every tory mp for follow. that _ dup. if he can do that, every tory mp for follow. that is _ dup. if he can do that, every tory mp for follow. that is the - dup. if he can do that, every tory mp for follow. that is the key- dup. if he can do that, every toryi mp for follow. that is the key thing and he _ mp for follow. that is the key thing and he wants— mp for follow. that is the key thing and he wants to _ mp for follow. that is the key thing and he wants to bring _ mp for follow. that is the key thing and he wants to bring back- and he wants to bring back power—sharing _ and he wants to bring back power—sharing in - and he wants to bring back power—sharing in northernj and he wants to bring back- power—sharing in northern ireland will stop— power—sharing in northern ireland will stop the — power—sharing in northern ireland will stop the danger— power—sharing in northern ireland will stop the danger is _ power—sharing in northern ireland will stop the danger is that - power—sharing in northern ireland will stop the danger is that you . will stop the danger is that you rake _ will stop the danger is that you rake over— will stop the danger is that you rake over old _ will stop the danger is that you rake over old wounds, - will stop the danger is that you rake over old wounds, you - will stop the danger is that you . rake over old wounds, you thrust brexit— rake over old wounds, you thrust brexit and — rake over old wounds, you thrust brexit and all— rake over old wounds, you thrust brexit and all of— rake over old wounds, you thrust brexit and all of those _ rake over old wounds, you thrust brexit and all of those divisions i brexit and all of those divisions back— brexit and all of those divisions back into — brexit and all of those divisions back into the _ brexit and all of those divisions back into the limelight - brexit and all of those divisions back into the limelight and - brexit and all of those divisions back into the limelight and you | back into the limelight and you don't _ back into the limelight and you don't get — back into the limelight and you don't get the _ back into the limelight and you don't get the dup— back into the limelight and you don't get the dup signed - back into the limelight and you don't get the dup signed up, l back into the limelight and you - don't get the dup signed up, don't bring _ don't get the dup signed up, don't bring back— don't get the dup signed up, don't bring back power—sharing - don't get the dup signed up, don't bring back power—sharing and - don't get the dup signed up, don't bring back power—sharing and you i don't get the dup signed up, don't. bring back power—sharing and you are taking _ bring back power—sharing and you are taking on— bring back power—sharing and you are taking on a _ bring back power—sharing and you are taking on a row— bring back power—sharing and you are taking on a row that _ bring back power—sharing and you are taking on a row that you _ bring back power—sharing and you are taking on a row that you don't - bring back power—sharing and you are taking on a row that you don't need . taking on a row that you don't need to. taking on a row that you don't need to it _ taking on a row that you don't need to it will— taking on a row that you don't need to it will come _ taking on a row that you don't need to. it will come down _ taking on a row that you don't need to. it will come down to _ taking on a row that you don't need to. it will come down to whether i taking on a row that you don't need to. it will come down to whether orj to. it will come down to whether or not he _ to. it will come down to whether or not he succeeds. _ this which would keir starmer go for in terms of the choices laid out
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there? . . . ' . in terms of the choices laid out there? . , . , . ., ., there? that is a difficult one to answer. this _ there? that is a difficult one to answer. this is _ there? that is a difficult one to answer. this is incredibly - there? that is a difficult one to i answer. this is incredibly complex and difficult. i think he has done the right thing saying... and difficult. i think he has done the right thing saying. . ._ and difficult. i think he has done the right thing saying... you're not sa in: the right thing saying... you're not saying very — the right thing saying... you're not saying very much _ the right thing saying... you're not saying very much about _ the right thing saying... you're not saying very much about it! - the right thing saying... you're not saying very much about it! i - the right thing saying... you're not saying very much about it! i think i saying very much about it! i think what keir starmer _ saying very much about it! i think what keir starmer has _ saying very much about it! i think what keir starmer has done - saying very much about it! i think what keir starmer has done the l saying very much about it! i think i what keir starmer has done the last couple of days by saying if rishi sunak gets a deal, he will back it. i think that is a sign. that is before he knows what the deal might be. i think you can stop there because we have prime minister's questions. mr speaker, i am delighted that we have beenjoined by a delegation from key. this friday there will be a national moment of reflection to demonstrate our solidarity with ukraine. this morning i had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others in addition to my duties in this house and i shall have further such meetings later today can associate myself with the prime minister was not comments with
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regards to the bravery of the ukrainian people. labour have asked his government on three occasions to commit to a police response to every domestic abuse call. to date, no answer has been forthcoming. could the prime minister provide a response today? just this week, we announced new measures to tackle violence against women and girls. this is a government that introduced a landmark domestic abuse act that is rolling out a special advisers for those who suffer and putting more funding to support victims. we will continue to do everything we can to make sure that women and girls are safe everywhere in our country. the warm welcome given to ukrainian refugees about so many is extremely heart—warming. does the prime minister understand though how upset my constituents are to have bookings for weddings and other special family events cancelled when the
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home office to cover a much loved hotel and would he redouble his efforts to put an end to this practice? my practice? my honourable friend was my constituents and indeed the whole country can be proud of the welcome they have given to people from ukraine over the last year. i can assure him that we are committed to reducing the number of asylum seekers are big hotels at vast cost to taxpayers and considerable disruption to communities. i am grateful to the leadership of the home secretary and immigration minister infinding home secretary and immigration minister in finding a sustainable solution and the home secretary will make a formal update in the coming weeks on progress in setting up alternative sites. the weeks on progress in setting up alternative sites.— weeks on progress in setting up alternative sites. the leader of the opposition. — alternative sites. the leader of the opposition. sir— alternative sites. the leader of the opposition, sir keir— alternative sites. the leader of the opposition, sir keir starmer. - alternative sites. the leader of the opposition, sir keir starmer. can l alternative sites. the leader of the opposition, sir keir starmer. can i | opposition, sir keir starmer. can i 'oin the opposition, sir keir starmer. can i join the prime _ opposition, sir keir starmer. can i join the prime minister _ opposition, sir keir starmer. can i join the prime minister in - opposition, sir keir starmer. cami join the prime minister in his comments about ukraine? i have the privilege as trick of seeing first—hand the courage and resilience of the ukrainian people and we must continue to stand united in this house in support of ukraine.
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can i also say that the thoughts of the whole house on the whole country will be with the family of nicola bulley at this very, very difficult time. can i welcome the new member for west lancashire to her first pmqs. mr speaker, the labour party is proud to be the party of the good friday agreement and peace and prosperity in northern ireland. we welcome attempts to make the protocol work more effectively. does the prime minister agree with me that it has been poorly commented and that the basis for any deal must be removing unnecessary checks on goods. mr be removing unnecessary checks on noods. ~ ,,, . ,, . be removing unnecessary checks on noods. ~ .~ . goods. mr speaker, that may welcome ofthe goods. mr speaker, that may welcome of the honourable _ goods. mr speaker, that may welcome of the honourable lady _ goods. mr speaker, that may welcome of the honourable lady to _ goods. mr speaker, that may welcome of the honourable lady to her - goods. mr speaker, that may welcome of the honourable lady to her place i of the honourable lady to her place and associate myself with the remarks about nicola bulley�*s family. as he knows, we are still in active discussions with the european union but he should know that i am a conservative and unionist and any agreement that we reach needs to
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check all boxes. it needs to ensure sovereignty for northern ireland and it needs to safeguard northern ireland's place in our union and it needs to find practical solutions to the problems faced by people and businesses. i will be resolute in fighting for what is best for northern ireland and the lighted kingdom. irate northern ireland and the lighted kinadom. ~ . . northern ireland and the lighted kinudom_ . ., ., ., kingdom. we all agree that the rotocol kingdom. we all agree that the protocol can — kingdom. we all agree that the protocol can be _ kingdom. we all agree that the protocol can be improved. - kingdom. we all agree that the protocol can be improved. butl kingdom. we all agree that the - protocol can be improved. but there are trade—offs and we need to face up are trade—offs and we need to face up to them. his predecessor told businesses that there would be no forms, no checks, no barriers of any kind. that was absolute nonsense and it destroyed trust, so in the interests of restoring trust, will he confirm that to avoid a hard border on the island of ireland, the deal he is negotiating is going to see northern ireland continue to follow some eu law. mr
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see northern ireland continue to follow some eu law. mr speaker, i think the other _ follow some eu law. mr speaker, i think the other gentleman - follow some eu law. mr speaker, i think the other gentleman is - follow some eu law. mr speaker, i. think the other gentleman is jumping ahead. we are still... we are still... we are still in intensive discussions with the european union to ensure that we can find agreement that meets the tests that i set and that meets the tests that i set and thatis that meets the tests that i set and that is sovereignty for northern ireland, northern ireland's place in our precious union and it is to find practical solutions to the problems faced by people and businesses. i have spent time engaging and listening to those committees in northern ireland, businesses and political parties, i have a good understanding of what is required and i will keep fighting until we get it. and i will keep fighting until we aet it. ~ . and i will keep fighting until we aet it. ~ , , , get it. the prime minister is biting his to: ale get it. the prime minister is biting his toggle but _ get it. the prime minister is biting his toggle but at _ get it. the prime minister is biting his toggle but at some _ get it. the prime minister is biting his toggle but at some point, - get it. the prime minister is biting his toggle but at some point, the l his toggle but at some point, the irreconcilable is on his benchers are going to twig and they're going to come after him. the former trade minister says there can be no role for the european ofjustice in
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northern ireland so when the prime minister be honest with them and tell them, that is not quite to happen. mr tell them, that is not quite to hauen. ~ . . happen. mr speaker, again, we need to keep going — happen. mr speaker, again, we need to keep going to _ happen. mr speaker, again, we need to keep going to actually _ happen. mr speaker, again, we need to keep going to actually secure - to keep going to actually secure acceptable agreement but for the other boat gentleman to be talking about a deal that he has not even seen, but we are still negotiating, thatis seen, but we are still negotiating, that is not finalised, and it is his usual position when it comes to the european union. it is give the eu a blank cheque and agree to anything they offer. it is not a strategy, mr speaker, that is surrender. mr speaker, that is surrender. mr speaker, it is not my questions he is avoiding, it is their questions he is avoiding. his predecessors wasted months pushing the northern ireland protocol bill. if implement
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it, it would tie us up in battles with the eu, the united states and others are precisely the time we should be building common ground to boost our economy and show unity against residents put in. the prime minister clearly one is a close relationship with the eu so can he confirm that if there is a deal, he will pull the protocol bill? mr will pull the protocol bill? m speaker, the honourable gentleman once to put the eu first, i want to put northern ireland first. on these questions, the honourable gentleman said he would respect the result of the referendum and then he promised to back a second one. all the while, he was constantly putting to frustrate brexit. i know with the british people know, that this question, he cannot be trusted to stick up for britain. mr
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question, he cannot be trusted to stick up for britain.— stick up for britain. mr speaker, the sound _ stick up for britain. mr speaker, the sound you — stick up for britain. mr speaker, the sound you hear _ stick up for britain. mr speaker, the sound you hear is _ stick up for britain. mr speaker, the sound you hear is they're . the sound you hear is they're maturing the prime minister, pulling the will of their ayes it is the 20 for the anniversary of the good friday agreement, the 30th anniversary of downing street declaration. tony blair and john major both recognised that politics in northern ireland is built on trust and not telling people what they want to hear. and the need to take seriously the concerns of both communities, nationalist and unionist. it is vital therefore so can the prime minister confirmed that whatever deal he brings back, this house will get a vote on it. mr this house will get a vote on it. m speaker, of course parliament will express its view but what is crucial, what is crucial here is that this is not about his desire to play political games in this house with the situation. this is about
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what is best for the people and communities of northern ireland. that, mr speaker, is what i will keep fighting for. mr that, mr speaker, is what i will keep fighting for.— that, mr speaker, is what i will keep fighting for. mr speaker, i take it from _ keep fighting for. mr speaker, i take it from that _ keep fighting for. mr speaker, i take it from that that _ keep fighting for. mr speaker, i take it from that that this - keep fighting for. mr speaker, i | take it from that that this house will get a vote and i look forward to that vote in due course. everyone knows the basis of this deal has been agreed for weeks but it is the same old story. the country has to wait while he plucks up the courage to take on the malcontents, the reckless, the wreckers on his own benches, but i am here to tell him that he does not need to worry about that he does not need to worry about that because we will put country before party and ensure that labour voted to get it through. he should accept our offer, ignore the house of indignation on his side who will never take yes for an answer. why doesn't he just get on with it? mr doesn't he just get on with it? m speaker, what i am doing is talking
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and listening to the people of northern ireland. that is the right thing to do. it is to make sure that we can respond to the concerns of the unit committees and businesses in northern ireland and that is what i will keep doing but the honourable gentleman talks about his plans. we have heard that tomorrow he is going to announce a five admissions but we already know what they are. it is uncontrolled immigration, reckless spending, it is higher debt and it is a softer sentences and for the fifth pledge, mr speaker, we all know it is that he reserves the right to change his mind on the otherfour. last year, the coroner determined that content promoted at morley russell contributed to her death but they were only able to make the
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decision after years of campaigning to gain access to that information. does the prime minister agree that otherfamilies should does the prime minister agree that other families should not have to suffer and relative data should be more readily available to families and coroner service? flan more readily available to families and coroner service?— more readily available to families and coroner service? can i 'oin my riuht and coroner service? can i 'oin my right honourable * and coroner service? can i 'oin my right honourable friend _ and coroner service? can ijoin my right honourable friend and - and coroner service? can ijoin my right honourable friend and pay l right honourable friend and pay tribute to the family for their tireless and dignified campaigning on behalf of all families who have been bereaved in such tragic circumstances. the companies already have, the corners rather, already have, the corners rather, already have statutory power to require evidence to be given or produced for the purposes of their investigation by the government is listening carefully to the concerns of parliamentary colleagues and two bereaved families, the ministry of justice and so on are leading those discussions to ensure that we have the right set of procedures in place. the right set of procedures in lace. . ., ,, place. the leader of the snp. wholesale — place. the leader of the snp. wholesale gas _ place. the leader of the snp. wholesale gas prices - place. the leader of the snp. wholesale gas prices have . place. the leader of the snp. | wholesale gas prices have full place. the leader of the snp. - wholesale gas prices have full and about 75% since their peak yet in
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just a matter of weeks, the british government, the westminster government, intends to increase energy bills by a further £500. what would motivate a prime minister to do such a thing? mr would motivate a prime minister to do such a thing?— would motivate a prime minister to do such a thing? mr speaker, what we are doinu is do such a thing? mr speaker, what we are doing is providing _ do such a thing? mr speaker, what we are doing is providing tens _ do such a thing? mr speaker, what we are doing is providing tens of- are doing is providing tens of billions of pounds of support for people with their energy bills. critically the most vulnerable and we are also, opposed by the snp, investing to produce more home—grown gas here. i would say to the honourable gentleman, one of his own members of parliament said this week that if the snp were a pizza company, the product would be slow, wrong and costly. i would say to him it is time to focus on the issues that matter to the people of scotland and producing more energy is one of them. i scotland and producing more energy is one of them.— is one of them. i am not sure that ener: is one of them. i am not sure that energy bills _ is one of them. i am not sure that energy bills don't _ is one of them. i am not sure that energy bills don't matter- is one of them. i am not sure that energy bills don't matter to - is one of them. i am not sure that energy bills don't matter to the i energy bills don't matter to the people of scotland, it is a winning strategy for this prime minister but let us get real, the fact that
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wholesale gas prices have full and by 75% means a windfall to the prime minister and the chancellor of around £15 billion so what they are saying as it stands is that they intend to raid the pockets of ordinary scots, whilst lining the pockets of westminster. mr speaker, it is time to set aside any notion of an energy price increase but instead protect households and perhaps reduce bills by £500. does he not agree? irate perhaps reduce bills by £500. does he rrot agree?— he not agree? we are saving households _ he not agree? we are saving households across _ he not agree? we are saving households across the - he not agree? we are saving households across the uk, l he not agree? we are saving - households across the uk, including in scotland, £900 for their energy bills as a result of our energy bill guarantee. in the coming years, we will spend £12 billion protecting the most vulnerable families, pensioners across the united kingdom but the best way to reduce peoples bills is to half inflation as we have promised to do and it is to produce more home—grown energy here
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in the uk. that is something that this government supports, maybe he could confirm whether the snp support that? the could confirm whether the snp support that?— could confirm whether the snp su ort that? ~ . support that? the prime minister will be well _ support that? the prime minister will be well aware _ support that? the prime minister will be well aware of _ support that? the prime minister will be well aware of the - support that? the prime minister will be well aware of the dogged | will be well aware of the dogged campaign of the honorourable member for north west norfolk for a rebuild of the queen elizabeth hospital in king's lynn, constructed from failing concrete where ceilings are now supported by more than 3,000 wooden and metal props. as the prime minister also aware of the strength of feeling locally in support of a rebuild, notjust in north west norfolk but in north, norwich, mid norfolk, huntingdon, north west cambridge. will he support our campaign? flan cambridge. will he support our campaign?— cambridge. will he support our cam-rain? ., ,, ., ., campaign? can i find by honourable ffiend campaign? can i find by honourable friend and indeed _ campaign? can i find by honourable friend and indeed my _ campaign? can i find by honourable friend and indeed my honourable i friend and indeed my honourable friend and indeed my honourable friend from north west norfolk because i know they are great supporters of this project and over the last year or so, the queen elizabeth hospital has been allocated over £50 million to
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address the most immediate issues of the site but i also know they have expressed their interest in being part of a new hospital programme. the department is looking through all those beds and he will know that i cannot comment on specific ones but the select hospitals will be announced in due course. band but the select hospitals will be announced in due course. and i thank the prime minister _ announced in due course. and i thank the prime minister for _ announced in due course. and i thank the prime minister for his _ announced in due course. and i thank the prime minister for his efforts - the prime minister for his efforts in relation to the northern ireland protocol. it is unacceptable that northern ireland has been put in this place with a particle imposed upon us that harms our place in the united kingdom. it must be replaced with arrangements that are acceptable and restore our place in the uk and its internal market. does the uk and its internal market. does the prime minister accept how important the constitutional and democratic issues are in relation to getting a solution? will he agree with me that it is unacceptable that eu laws are imposed on northern ireland with no democratic scrutiny or consent and will he ensure me
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that he will address these fundamental constitutional issues and do so notjust by tricking the protocol, but by rewriting the legally binding treaty text? flan protocol, but by rewriting the legally binding treaty text? can i legally binding treaty text? can i thank the right _ legally binding treaty text? can i thank the right honourable gentleman for his question but also thank him for his question but also thank him for the role he has played in recent months in articulating unionists concerns. i have heard loud and clear when he says he ones and needs theseissues clear when he says he ones and needs these issues resolved so he has a basis to work with others to restore power sharing and i know that that is genuine. he raised the question of practical issues and it is vital that these are addressed but it also raises a vital question about the constitutional and legal framework in which these arrangements exist. i can assure him that i agree, addressing the democratic deficit is an essential part of the negotiations that remain ongoing with the european union. just as he
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has been consistent, so have i and i can assure him that this is at the very heart of the issues that must be addressed. the very heart of the issues that must be addressed.— very heart of the issues that must be addressed. ~ , . , be addressed. the prime minister has made fixina be addressed. the prime minister has made fixing illegal _ be addressed. the prime minister has made fixing illegal immigration - made fixing illegal immigration across the channel one of his key top priorities. he has also said that legislation will be required to stop it. i completely agree. so, can he tell us when we can expect to see this legislation coming forward, as time is of the essence. can he explain why sorting out this issue did not feature on the home office and secretary's favourite top three priorities for his department. mr priorities for his department. m speaker, i thank the other friend for her question. she is right, legal crossings puts peoples lives at risk and it is unfair on those who migrate here illegally and that
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is why one of our five pledges to the british people is to stop the boats. we are working at pace on the legislation. it is important that it works and in the meantime, our deals with albania and france are already yielding benefits but what i can tell her is, we want a system whereby if someone arrives in our country illegally, they will not be able to stay. instead, they will be detained and removed to a country that they come from or a safe alternative. that is a system of the home secretary and i are working hard to put in place and that is what our legislation will delay delivery. taste what our legislation will delay delive . ~ . ., . delivery. we are now inflated with the highest _ delivery. we are now inflated with the highest tax _ delivery. we are now inflated with the highest tax burden _ delivery. we are now inflated with the highest tax burden and - delivery. we are now inflated with| the highest tax burden and biggest drop in disposable income since the second world war and attends opinions of pounds of taxpayer money was wasted on a world beating track and trace system, ppa that was not fit for, not to mention the contracts who went to tory chums, so
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when will the prime minister help us to recover some of that most money so that striking nurses and teachers can be paid the decent wage that they so richly deserve? mr speaker, i am ve they so richly deserve? mr speaker, i am very pleased — they so richly deserve? mr speaker, i am very pleased that _ they so richly deserve? mr speaker, i am very pleased that the _ i am very pleased that the government is in intensive talks with the royal of nursing to find a way forward. we are keen to discuss these conditions and i am glad those conversations are now happening. i would say the honourable gentleman really cares about the impact of working people but maybe him and his party should stand up to their union paymasters and back our minimum service laws. i paymasters and back our minimum service laws-— service laws. i would like to thank the prime minister _ service laws. i would like to thank the prime minister for _ service laws. i would like to thank the prime minister for his - service laws. i would like to thank the prime minister for his support in the launch of the new regular treat reform group. with the prime minister commit to working with our group into specific areas? first, to improve the accountability and responsiveness of our regular tours to both stakeholders and parliament? secondly, to improve the economic
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potential in key growing areas of the economy such essential services, artificial intelligence and advanced manufacturing? ma; artificial intelligence and advanced manufacturing?— artificial intelligence and advanced manufacturina? y ., .~ , manufacturing? my other friend makes an excellent point _ manufacturing? my other friend makes an excellent point and _ manufacturing? my other friend makes an excellent point and he _ manufacturing? my other friend makes an excellent point and he is _ manufacturing? my other friend makes an excellent point and he is right - an excellent point and he is right about the importance of getting our regular tree framework right to drive growth and prosperity and that is why my right audible friend, the chancellor, has set out an extensive review of retained eu law in five growth areas including sciences, green industries and digital technology, but also, the government chief scientific adviser is losing work to consider how the uk can better regulate emerging technologies enabling their rapid and safe introduction. it technologies enabling their rapid and safe introduction.— and safe introduction. it was a pleasure to — and safe introduction. it was a pleasure to meet _ and safe introduction. it was a pleasure to meet the - and safe introduction. it was a l pleasure to meet the delegation and safe introduction. it was a - pleasure to meet the delegation from cave before questions and confirm that across this house, we are united in our support for ukraine and its brave heroes. mr speaker, the conservatives manifesto promised 40 the conservatives manifesto promised a0 new hospitals after three years, most of these hospitals have not
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even got planning permission yet. committees feel betrayed and taken for granted. as itv showed yesterday, st helier hospital is literally crumbling but there is still no plan to save it. a hospital in cambridgeshire has sewage linking into its words on a roof that could collapse at any moment. does the prime minister agree that these are conditions no patients, doctors or nurses should have to put up with? can he tell the house...— can he tell the house... order! please do _ can he tell the house... order! please do not _ can he tell the house... order! please do not take _ can he tell the house... order! please do not take advantage. | can he tell the house... order! - please do not take advantage. prime minister i please do not take advantage. prime minister i am — please do not take advantage. prime minister i am proud _ please do not take advantage. prime minister i am proud that _ please do not take advantage. prime minister i am proud that we - please do not take advantage. prime minister i am proud that we are - minister i am proud that we are investing record sums into the nhs under this government. also record sums in nhs capital, butjust going on upgrading almost 100 hospitals, developing a0 large—scale developments but also investing in more scanners, ambulances across—the—board so we can deliver
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vital care to people and i am very pleased that the most recent statistics on urgent emergency care showed considerable improvement from the challenges we faced over december and we are now on a clear path to getting people the treatment they need in the time they needed. i they need in the time they needed. i welcome the government was my commitment to tackling illegal migration and the issue of small boats. can i ask my right honourable friend if he will reconsider the government's proposal to relocate approximately 500 single male asylum seekers to be consigned in stafford and can i ask him to beat mid—may urgently to discuss this, given the huge amount of objections i have received from constituents on this issue? . , u. received from constituents on this issue? , , .. u, received from constituents on this issue? , , g issue? firstly, can i welcome my honourable _ issue? firstly, can i welcome my honourable friend _ issue? firstly, can i welcome my honourable friend back- issue? firstly, can i welcome my honourable friend back to - issue? firstly, can i welcome my honourable friend back to her. issue? firstly, can i welcome my i honourable friend back to her place and i know that this is an issue thatis and i know that this is an issue that is concerning her and her constituents and it is why we must absolutely stop the boats and stem the tide of illegal migrants to
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relieve this pressure on our local committees but i will ensure that she meets with the home secretary as soon as possible to discuss her concerns and hopefully we can arrange that meeting in the coming days. arrange that meeting in the coming da s. . arrange that meeting in the coming da s. , ., , ., , . days. this month it is the two-year anniversary — days. this month it is the two-year anniversary and _ days. this month it is the two-year anniversary and the _ days. this month it is the two-year anniversary and the cost _ days. this month it is the two-year anniversary and the cost of- days. this month it is the two-year anniversary and the cost of living i anniversary and the cost of living crisis, this has been a lifeline to hundreds of thousands of people in scotland. when the prime minister followed leadership of the scottish government and introduce an equivalent child payment? the best wa to equivalent child payment? the best way to ensure _ equivalent child payment? the best way to ensure that _ equivalent child payment? the best way to ensure that children - equivalent child payment? the best way to ensure that children grow. equivalent child payment? the best way to ensure that children grow up not in poverty is to make sure they grow up not in a workless household. there are almost 1 grow up not in a workless household. there are almost1 million grow up not in a workless household. there are almost 1 million fewer children growing up in close households, hundreds of thousands children fewer in poverty and that is because this government is on the side of parents and make sure they have the jobs they need because ultimately, that is the best poverty
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strategy, to have everybody in work. i have previously called out in this house the appalling level of service that my constituents and yours received from train operator, transpennine. last month, transpennine. last month, transpennine had the largest number of cancellations of any service provider in the uk but it turns out that even this figure was fiddled because transpennine had cancelled over 1,000 trains before 10:30 before so that they do not show up in the statistics. does the prime minister agree with me that this practice is totally unacceptable, as is their level of service? i practice is totally unacceptable, as is their level of service?— is their level of service? i agree with my honourable _ is their level of service? i agree with my honourable friend, - is their level of service? i agree with my honourable friend, thej with my honourable friend, the current service levels or unacceptable. the real north partnership which is managing the contract is working with the company on an improvement plan. the rail minister is having weekly meetings with real north partnerships to monitor its progress and whilst the transpennine contract expires in
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may, and we are working on a new contract, if ministers conclude the operator cannot be turned around, then other decisions may have to be made. {lit then other decisions may have to be made. :: , ., , made. of the ao promised new hositals made. of the ao promised new hospitals referred _ made. of the ao promised new hospitals referred to _ made. of the ao promised new hospitals referred to by - made. of the ao promised new hospitals referred to by my - made. of the ao promised new. hospitals referred to by my right honourable friend, 11 of those are in the south—west of england. three of them surround my constituency in barnstaple, dorchester and taunton, but none of them has planning permission. it has been reported that staff at eastbourne district general hospital were told that there town would not get any hospital and it was a barefaced lie. given that the prime minister claims his mandate rests on a manifesto that promised a0 new hospitals, when will bcm? the that promised 40 new hospitals, when will bcm? ., , will bcm? the government is committed — will bcm? the government is committed to _ will bcm? the government is committed to building - will bcm? the government is committed to building 40 - will bcm? the government is| committed to building 40 new committed to building a0 new hospitals as part of the new hospitals as part of the new hospital programme. in the south—west, eight out of the 11 schemes to have full outline planning permission approved and the
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remaining three schemes, due to when they are delivered, would not be expected to have planning permission at this stage and we are working with the trust to go through that process, so everything is on track and we will bring those hospitals to the people in the south—west. £3 million centre to wolverhampton to trial a new better health app that will support people to make better choices about their diet and fitness. will he welcomed this and also celebrate our grassroots sports clubs in wolverhampton, especially the cycle speedway club who celebrated their diamond jubilee last year but up. can celebrated their diamond jubilee last year but up.— last year but up. can i 'oin my honourable * last year but up. can i 'oin my honourable friend _ last year but up. can i 'oin my honourable friend in h last year but up. can ijoin my - honourable friend in commending all her local sporting organisations for thejob her local sporting organisations for the job they her local sporting organisations for thejob they do her local sporting organisations for the job they do and she is absolutely right that prevention is absolutely right that prevention is absolutely better than a cure in ensuring we can support people to
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live healthy, fulfilling lives and thatis live healthy, fulfilling lives and that is part of our plan and that is why we are investing in football pitches, tennis courts and you facilities over the country i'm glad her constituents are benefiting. the government has not only broken its possible promises, it has also broken its plan for thousands of more doctors with a number of gps have fallen. gps are seeing more patients and across the uk, they have also seen the number of qualified gps fall. when the prime minister and his government's neglect of local health services and retain the gps we need? the neglect of local health services and retain the gps we need?— neglect of local health services and retain the gps we need? the fact of this, retain the gps we need? the fact of this. there — retain the gps we need? the fact of this. there are _ retain the gps we need? the fact of this, there are 2,200 _ retain the gps we need? the fact of this, there are 2,200 more - retain the gps we need? the fact of this, there are 2,200 more gps - retain the gps we need? the fact of this, there are 2,200 more gps in l this, there are 2,200 more gps in general practice today, 15,000 more doctors in the nhs and there are 30,000 more nurses and that is because we are putting record funding in and backing the nhs and getting patients the care that they
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need. . . ., ~ , getting patients the care that they need. . g ., ., ., need. can i commend my honourable ffiend need. can i commend my honourable friend in seizing _ need. can i commend my honourable friend in seizing and _ need. can i commend my honourable friend in seizing and grasping - need. can i commend my honourable friend in seizing and grasping the - friend in seizing and grasping the nettle and seeking to negotiate an agreement on the northern ireland protocol. does he share my frustration with the expressed views of people who are commenting upon a deal that has yet to be reached and does he agree with me that the best way to reduce or even end the jurisdiction of the cj eu is through treaty change itself and not through domestic legislation in this parliament? mr domestic legislation in this parliament?— domestic legislation in this parliament? ~ , parliament? mr speaker, my right honourable — parliament? mr speaker, my right honourable friend _ parliament? mr speaker, my right honourable friend is _ parliament? mr speaker, my right honourable friend is absolutely . honourable friend is absolutely right. we need to keep going, but he is also right that we need to find enduring solutions to the challenges faced by the people of northern ireland and that is why, as my right honourable friend mentioned earlier, it is absolutely right that we address the constitutional and legal
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framework of our arrangements and ensure we can put in place new arrangements that secure northern ireland's place in the uk. the prime minister is no stranger to paying fines, but last week the £2.3 billion he paid to the eu after the uk government allowed chinese fraudsters to flood europe with cheap goods is the worst waste of public money. my question is simple, if he can find £2.3 billion to pay a fine, why can't he pay nhs workers and others the pay increases they deserve? mr speaker, he may not have seen that the royal college of nursing are now in talks with government about resolving the disputes, and i'm grateful to them for entering into those talks with a spirit of constructive attitude, and also calling off their strikes next week. i would urge him and his colleagues to be on the side of working people.
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that is to back our laws, to deduce minimum safety levels across the nhs, which is the best way to make your you are on the side of hard—working families. i hard—working families. i wholeheartedly support my prime and's priority to stop the boats, so could he please bring in the small boats bill next week? i could he please bring in the small boats bill next week?— boats bill next week? i thank my honourable _ boats bill next week? i thank my honourable friend _ boats bill next week? i thank my honourable friend for _ boats bill next week? i thank my honourable friend for his - boats bill next week? i thank my| honourable friend for his support. boats bill next week? i thank my i honourable friend for his support. i share with him the same desire, which is to stop the boats, for all of the reasons we have discussed in the session. he should rest assured that we are working intensely and as quickie as possible to bring forward that legislation, because what i want is what he wants, to ensure that those people who come here illegally will simply not be allowed to stay. illegally will simply not be allowed to sta . , . , , , illegally will simply not be allowed tosta. .,, , to stay. during recess, my community in warrington — to stay. during recess, my community in warrington was _ to stay. during recess, my community in warrington was rocked _ to stay. during recess, my community in warrington was rocked by _ to stay. during recess, my community
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in warrington was rocked by the - in warrington was rocked by the murder of a 16—year—old schoolgirl. what support will be offered to our community to make sure they have the support they need to support her classmates and her family as we try to heal from this appalling tragedy? i thank the honourable lady for raising this issue and bikes pressed my sympathies to the family and friends for what has happened. i know she will be supporting them at this difficult time. she should note that she will have what she needs from the government. i can't ask the prime minister to stop time or tired, but i might ask to offset it. in south devon, the line is being eroded and i need him to lobby the department for transport to make sure that we can get the repairs done. natural england is standing in the wake of this vital link and stopping us from
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doing the developments we need to do. will he support me? mr speaker, my honourable _ do. will he support me? mr speaker, my honourable friend _ do. will he support me? mr speaker, my honourable friend is _ do. will he support me? mr speaker, my honourable friend is a _ do. will he support me? mr speaker, my honourable friend is a fantastic. my honourable friend is a fantastic campaigner for my honourable friend is a fantastic campaignerfor his area, and this issueis campaignerfor his area, and this issue is causing frustration and concern in his community. he is right to raise it and i'm sure he will get the appropriate meeting to deal with that issue. that completes prime minister's questions. it that completes prime minister's questions. ., , . . questions. it does indeed. we had rishi sunak there. i couple of pieces of news that were coming in. one concerning nicola bulley, whose body was discovered this week, three weeks after she disappeared. the inquest into her death has opened at lancashire coroner's court and it has been
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hearing that she was identified by her dental records. we are also hearing news that train drivers working for the london underground will strike for 2a—hour is, which will strike for 2a—hour is, which will be on march the 15th, which is budget day, in their pay dispute. they are saying that 99% of drivers voted for strike action on a 77% turnout. a british woman who joined the so—called islamic state group has lost her legal challenge to regain her uk citizenship. shamima begum was 15 years old when she travelled to syria, where she married an islamic state fighter. she was later stripped of her british citizenship on grounds of national security, but appealed against that decision. begum claimed she was a victim of human trafficking, and should be allowed to return to britain from the refugee camp in northern syria where she now lives. our home affairs correspondent, daniel sandford, has the latest.
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we have just come up from the basement courtroom here, with the fulljudgment in our hands. mrjust j has said that all nine grounds of shamima begum's appeal have been dismissed. he said that the strongest grounds, around the suggestion that, rather than voluntarily travelling to syria as a 15—year—old, she had effectively been trafficked, he had been groomed and persuaded to go that, and was essentially a victim of trafficking for sexual exploitation, the judge clearly felt that that was a strong argument and they said it was a credible suspicion that ten point had been trafficked to syria, and the judges also said that there were arguable breaches of duty in that certain organisations in the uk that herfriend had already
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certain organisations in the uk that her friend had already travelled to syria and should have been aware that there was a risk that she might follow. however, despite that, and inclusivity for that argument, the judges concluded that it is not really relevant to the legal aspect of this case. they say that because shamima begum is in syria and essentially those duties on the secretary of state to worry about people being trafficked are not relevant for this case, and in the end, the decision as to whether or not someone poses a threat to national security is a decision for the secretary of state, the home secretary, and the judges concluded that it wasn't made in an illegal or irrational way, that decision, therefore the decision to strip shamima begum of british citizenship, effectively leaving her in limbo in a camp in north syria, should stand. anthony glees is a security expert
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at the university of buckingham. he says the court's decision was expected. it sort of settles the matter. this is, of course, a tragedy for shamima begum, but it is also more of a tragedy for all of the people who lost their lives at the hands of the brutal, sadistic so—called islamic state who she supported. there is also a question of politics. one of the implications, if she had been allowed to come back to the uk and regain her citizenship, she wasn't the only person who was stripped of her citizenship, 150 people or so have been stripped of their citizenship. all of them would have appealed and, had she come back to the united kingdom, whatever her own views work, she would have been treated as an icon by islamists in the united kingdom. i'm not surprised. the politics of it were wrong, but the bottom line is that
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this is the law and all of us believe in a lawfulness. the government is found not to have broken the law, which is not a surprise, and we should draw a line under the matter of shamima begum. british steel has announced plans to close its coking ovens in scunthorpe, with the loss of up to 260 jobs. the company's chinese owners say they've faced significant challenges because of high inflation and energy costs. unions say the move will be "devastating" for scunthorpe and british steel workers across the uk. a high—school pupil has stabbed a teacher to death in southwestern france. the 16—year—old suspect is reported to have taken a knife out of his rucksack and attacked the 50—year—old woman during a spanish lesson at the school in saint—jean—de—luz. the boy has been arrested. french media reports said the suspect showed signs of mental illness. our correspondent, hugo schofield,
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sent this update a short while ago. a teacher, aged about 50, has been stabbed and killed at this school in the south—west of france, near the spanish border. it was part of a semiprivate system which tend to bring in children of the better off, so a school with no history of trouble at all. what seems to have happened is that a boy of 16 brought a knife into class and, as far as we know, brought it out without warning and stabbed the teacher once in the chest, and later she died. the only added fact so far is that, from what we are hearing, the boy said he was possessed, that he had heard voices
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and this is what impelled him to do it. hugh schofield there, our paris correspondent. china's top diplomat, wang yi, has met president putin in moscow, after reaffirming the two countries' close relationship. the timing of the visit — just days before the first anniversary of russia's invasion of ukraine — is significant. china has refused to condemn the invasion, although it's stopped short of providing moscow with its unconditional backing. earlier, mr wang met his russian counterpart, sergei lavrov, and promised further agreements between the two countries, although they've not said what they would cover. two british supermarket chains are restricting the amount of some fruits and vegetables that customers can buy, in response to recent shortages of fresh produce. shoppers at asda and morrisons will face limits on the number of cucumbers, peppers and tomatoes that they can take home. the supply problems, which are also affecting ireland, have largely been caused by extreme weather conditions in northern africa and southern spain —
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the regions from which the uk gets a large part of these products at this time of year. our business correspondent, marc ashdown, has more. if you've been to do your weekly shop in the past few days, you might have noticed a few gaps. social media has been awash with pictures from frustrated shoppers of empty shelves in the fresh fruit and veg aisle. now, some of the big supermarkets are taking steps to protect supplies. in asda, you can now only buy three each of tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, lettuce, salad bags, broccoli, cauliflower and raspberries. and in morrisons, from today, shoppers will be limited to two each of tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce and peppers. the supermarkets say extreme weather in european countries where they source their produce has impacted supply chains. they say the measures are to make sure all customers can still get hold of fruit and veg. we're thinking about some disruption maybe for the next fortnight or so, just a little bit less availability than you'd normally see in your supermarkets.
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but supermarkets are great at sorting through these challenges. we saw that during the pandemic. they'll be finding different suppliers to to get more produce onto the shelves. but also, after sort of... when we get into march and beyond, then we get a lot more of our product here in the uk, which makes it much easier. when there were food and fuel supply issues last year, the government's own office for budget responsibility said brexit had made things worse than in other countries. this time, some retail analysts say the problems are down to high energy costs, and extreme hot and cold weather affecting crops across europe. supermarkets say the imminent start of the uk growing season will help them maintain supplies in the spring. but the national farmers' union says the industry needs more support. the more we face shortages, the more it will drive food inflation. we've got to come up with a way of making sure we can keep producing what the nation needs. we've got 70 million people in this country. it's an island nation. food security needs to be
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taken really seriously. so far, none of the other major supermarkets have introduced limits. asda and morrisons say the temporary measures should only need to be in place for a matter of weeks. mark ashdown, bbc news. i talked about this with tom holder, who warned against the public panic buying. who warned against the public panic bu inc. . . who warned against the public panic bu inc. , . ., ,, ., buying. these are not the kind of items ou buying. these are not the kind of items you need _ buying. these are not the kind of items you need to _ buying. these are not the kind of items you need to stock- buying. these are not the kind of items you need to stock up - buying. these are not the kind of items you need to stock up ten i buying. these are not the kind of| items you need to stock up ten or buying. these are not the kind of. items you need to stock up ten or 15 of, and they don't particular store well. the reason why those limits have been put in place is not really aimed at the ordinary customer, it is to prevent some restaurants or cafe is that might be getting those items and are having problems with their own supply chains, going to their own supply chains, going to the local supermarket and grabbing a whole load, meaning customers have to go without. it is a temporary
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measure as we find new suppliers to provide those salad vegetables and also to get us over as we approach the uk growing season. this also to get us over as we approach the uk growing season.— the uk growing season. this is predominately _ the uk growing season. this is predominately because, - the uk growing season. this is predominately because, as - the uk growing season. this is predominately because, as we j the uk growing season. this is - predominately because, as we were saying, by cold weather in morocco and spain, is that right?— and spain, is that right? that's where we _ and spain, is that right? that's where we get _ and spain, is that right? that's where we get most _ and spain, is that right? that's where we get most of - and spain, is that right? that's where we get most of our - and spain, is that right? that's| where we get most of our salad vegetables, cucumbers, lettuce, peppers and tomatoes. normally, spain is the big one and morocco is a bit of a back—up. but, just as it happens, the weather has affected both the main country and the back—up country, causing temporary problems to supply chains for those items. taste problems to supply chains for those items. ~ . ., items. we were hearing from the national farmers' _ items. we were hearing from the national farmers' union - items. we were hearing from the national farmers' union that - items. we were hearing from the national farmers' union that thisj national farmers' union that this highlights dangers with uk food security, in other words our food chain is not as stable and guaranteed as we think it is. i’m guaranteed as we think it is. i'm not sure guaranteed as we think it is. i“n not sure that's true. i think we see, by and large, the items people want to buy are available all year round when they want to buy them,
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and that is a testament to the resilience and strength of those supply chains. the fact we are up in arms because we cannot get tomatoes, which is not a traditional winter vegetable in the uk, for a few weeks, it shows how good it is for most of the time. we have incredibly sophisticated supply chains that are effective are getting the items customers want all year round. you sa this is customers want all year round. you say this is a — customers want all year round. you say this is a short—term problem and we don't need to be too worried about it? ~ ,,., , .,, ., about it? absolutely. people need to be atient, about it? absolutely. people need to be patient, purchase _ about it? absolutely. people need to be patient, purchase responsibly, . be patient, purchase responsibly, and show patients to those shop staff who are not responsible for the supply chain issues at this time. the headlines on bbc news: shamima begum, who left london as a schoolgirl tojoin islamic state,
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loses appeal againt the removal of her british citizenship. british steel has announced the closure of its coking ovens in scunthorpe with the loss of 300 jobs. struggling to fund the cost of social care, and how people with disabilities end up facing legal action because they can't afford to pay. england's health secretary, stephen barclay, is meeting representatives of the royal college of nursing after the union suspended a strike planned for next week. following months of disputes, the two sides have said they would begin "intensive talks" on pay, terms and conditions, and reforms. government proposals for next year's public sector pay in england are also being drawn up. earlier the national lead officerfor unite, onay kasab, told us more.
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we haven't had an invitation. why the government has chosen only to invite the rcn, you would have to ask the government. but we are happy to sit down, we are prepared to negotiate, but we haven't had that invitation. the government's submission to the 23—2a pay review body, putting forward 3.5%, which is little more than a sickjoke in our view, doesn't really bode well for the future and going forward. i would say this again today, if we are invited to talks, then we will sit down and negotiate. as of this moment, there is no invitation to our union to attend any talks was up we have been involved in disputes and involved in compromises that have led to wins for our members, so we are willing to sit down, willing
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to compromise, but there is a big difference between 3.5% and the rpi rate of inflation, which is currently running at 13%. we are in dispute already, when the government knows how angry people are about pay, and there is an impact on the level of services, for the government to talk about 3.5% is a sickjoke. let's ta ke let's take you back to the case of shamima begum. iher let's take you back to the case of shamima begum.— let's take you back to the case of shamima begum. let's take you back to the case of shamima beuum. . , , . , shamima begum. her lawyers have been s-ueakin shamima begum. her lawyers have been speaking outside — shamima begum. her lawyers have been speaking outside the _ shamima begum. her lawyers have been speaking outside the court _ shamima begum. her lawyers have been speaking outside the court after - shamima begum. her lawyers have been speaking outside the court after a - speaking outside the court after a judge said her appeal had been fully dismissed. firstly, to state what must be very
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obvious, this is an extraordinary judgment delivered and an extraordinary way, in which the commission is clearly deeply troubled by the case it is having to decide, by the limitations placed upon it by the supreme court. the implication, the outcome that we face is that no british child who has been trafficked outside the uk will be protected by the british state if the home secretary invokes national security. state if the home secretary invokes nationalsecurity. i state if the home secretary invokes national security. i think you would like to set number of things, daniel, and we have a number of collective things to remind you of when you read the judgment. collective things to remind you of when you read thejudgment. i collective things to remind you of when you read the judgment. when you read the 'udgment. i think what reall when you read the judgment. i think what reallyjumped _ when you read the judgment. i think what reallyjumped out _ when you read the judgment. i think what reallyjumped out of— when you read the judgment. i think what reallyjumped out of the - what reallyjumped out of the judgment is what the commission
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didn't— judgment is what the commission didn't say. — judgment is what the commission didn't say, it did not support what ten throw— didn't say, it did not support what ten throw did. —— what sajid javid did _ ten throw did. —— what sajid javid did this— ten throw did. —— what sajid javid did. this commission, which saw the same _ did. this commission, which saw the same material as sajid javid did not say anything like that at all. he described the case as finely balanced, and said that reasonable people _ balanced, and said that reasonable people might strongly and profoundly disagree _ people might strongly and profoundly disagree with the way in which the cases— disagree with the way in which the cases been determined. do you want to say— cases been determined. do you want to say anything more about trafficking?— to say anything more about trafficking? to say anything more about traffickin: ? , . trafficking? the findings that the commission _ trafficking? the findings that the commission found _ trafficking? the findings that the commission found is _ trafficking? the findings that the commission found is a _ trafficking? the findings that the commission found is a credible l commission found is a credible suspicion that ten won was trafficked, that she was harboured by the traffickers until 2019. a
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credible suspicion that they were extraordinary failures in the uk with preventing her travelling. reading the factual underpinning of what the commission considers to be made out on her behalf, you would feel that there would be no way that she could not have succeeded in her appeal. but you will equally see repeated as a thread through the judgment how the commission invokes the supreme court's view that its role is limited, and it cannot consider the merits of a case. it is limited to the most narrow grounds of administrative review. in consequence, you have a judgment in which the court is effectively saying, as things stand now, we are
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stuck in a way that we do not think reflects the findings we are making. that is basically it. in terms of the legal— that is basically it. in terms of the legal fight, it is nowhere near over~ _ the legal fight, it is nowhere near over~ we — the legal fight, it is nowhere near over. we will not go into details about _ over. we will not go into details about what that means at this stage. what else _ about what that means at this stage. what else thisjudgment about what that means at this stage. what else this judgment calls out for is _ what else this judgment calls out for is some courage and some leadership from the home secretary to look— leadership from the home secretary to look at— leadership from the home secretary to look at this case a fresh, in light— to look at this case a fresh, in light of— to look at this case a fresh, in light of the clear and compelling findings — light of the clear and compelling findings that this court has made. thank— findings that this court has made. thank you — findings that this court has made. thank you. we are going to challenge the decision, but we will not go into details was the challenges include — into details was the challenges include the government taking on responsibility of conducting its own review _ responsibility of conducting its own review. ~ . , . responsibility of conducting its own review. . . , ., review. what prospect is there of that? you have known _ review. what prospect is there of that? you have known before - review. what prospect is there of| that? you have known before they have known. _ that? you have known before they have known, she _
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that? you have known before they have known, she will _ that? you have known before they have known, she will have - that? you have known before they have known, she will have knownl that? you have known before they i have known, she will have known as you have broadcasted, so we will be speaking to them immediately now. she was not allowed to know the judgment until turning today. the la ers judgment until turning today. the lawyers for _ judgment until turning today. tie: lawyers for shamima begum judgment until turning today. ti9: lawyers for shamima begum outside the court after her appeal had been fully dismissed. at least four people have died in a cyclone in madagascar. it is because power cuts and flooding. among the casualties was a 27—year—old man who drowned. the weather system has rapidly weakened as it heads south—west across madagascar. we've all found ourselves a bit lost on the way home before, but not quite as lost as bob, the homing pigeon who took a wrong turn and ended up a,000 miles away from his loft.
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bob went missing during a race from the channel isles to tyneside last year, and turned up weeks later in the united states. now, his travels have been made into an illustrated book. andrew hartley has more. howay, bob. yourfriends are here to see you again. he just might be the most famous racing pigeon in the world. seven months on from his detour across the atlantic, bob's back home, blissfully unaware that his adventure has been immortalized in print. well, the illustrations just speak for themselves. they just jump out at you. i think it's so easy flowing right the way through the book. it tells the story from start to finish. and i think the kids will look at it like, and we've to keep the story as true as it comes. to me, it brings the story to life again. it couldn't have been any better, in my opinion. the author and illustrator is an old pal from the north—east, now living in spain. i'm really, really excited about it. the buzz and the hype
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so far has been lovely. everybody i know is calling and sending messages. the pictures tell their own story, but the words just cement it. so i needed something pretty — pretty picture to go along with pretty words, basically. and what a story. bob's epic trip started in guernsey in the channel islands. his a00 mile race back to winlaton was expected to take no more than ten hours. instead, he took a wrong turn, probably hitching a ride on a ship, and ended up a,000 miles away in the small town of monroeville, alabama. so what next for bob — a movie or tv series? we'd love to see something for the children, a little series or something, or a little movie. obviously, if the interest�*s there. ijust wish the pigeon could talk. the book's said to be flying off the shelves, with two more adventures already drawn and written. as for bob, well, his
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racing days are over. instead, alan has very different plans for him. he's done his bit. he's now going to have a good life. as it stands now, he's going to just breed. he's in your mind all the time. if anything happened to him, i don't know what i'd feel like. a fitting new life for a bird who's clocked up more than his fair share ofair miles. andrew hartley, bbc news. now it's time for a look at the weather with matt taylor. hello there. the weather is looking cooler than it was at the start of the week, and this afternoon we have scattered showers around. the cloud cover is across... we did have some brief brighter moments weather—wise
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in wales, but showers are set to move in here, one or two could be heavy through the afternoon, some patches of rain affecting eastern areas of england, but mostly falling quite light. quite a cloudy day today with the threat of some rain at times. cabbage 7010 celsius, cooler than recent days, but they are closer to average for this time of year. overnight, we will see more cloud and some outbreaks of rain. across the north, it is a cold night with clear skies and widespread frost, down to —3. heading into thursday, we have a ridge of high pressure to start the day across the north of the uk before weather fronts start to move into the far north of scotland later. with that cold and frosty start of the day, i think as cloud moves in over the cold air, it will trap some of the cold air, it will trap some of the cold air, it will trap some of the cold air near the surface, so quite a chilly day, with temperatures slow
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to rise was not eventually, turning windier and the rain pushes in. we'll probably see that temperatures rise into double figures across the north west. but for the most of the day, around seven to nine celsius for most of you. that area of low pressure dives towards norway, the weather fronts push down. pressure dives towards norway, the weatherfronts push down. we pressure dives towards norway, the weather fronts push down. we will see breaks in the cloud to the north of that across parts of scotland and northern england developing through the day. with that, a bit of brighter weather pushing into scotland and northern england, temperatures a bit higher, ten to 12 celsius. forthe temperatures a bit higher, ten to 12 celsius. for the weekend, temperatures a bit higher, ten to 12 celsius. forthe weekend, high pressure dominates the weather picture across the uk. it is getting stronger, so what that means is we will see some morning frosts around, but predominantly dry with lengthy spells of sunshine and temperatures around seven to 10 celsius. that is
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today at one — a woman who went to syria to join the islamic state group when she was 15 remains barred from the uk after losing a legal appeal. shamima begum was stripped of her british citizenship after being deemed a threat to national security and remains in a camp in northern syria. her lawyers say she will appeal the decision. also on the programme... just under 300 jobs are to go at british steel's scunthorpe plant with the closure of its coking ovens. and the unions fear that hundreds morejob cuts could and the unions fear that hundreds more job cuts could be in the pipeline and that the future of steelmaking in the uk is under threat.

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