tv Breakfast BBC News March 6, 2023 6:00am-9:01am GMT
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good morning. welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. our headlines today... refugee charities criticise plans to stop migrants from crossing the channel in small boats by banning them from returning to the uk for life. one of britain's most notorious and violent prisoners, charles bronson, makes his latest bid for freedom at a public parole hearing. caring for a loved one with dementia. we're hearing how families cope with such a cruel disease. nina will be sharing her own personal story. in sport... seventh heaven for liverpool. a record—breaking victory forjurgen klopp�*s side
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against rivals manchester united. good morning. as we go through this week it _ good morning. as we go through this week it will_ good morning. as we go through this week it will turn much colder with some _ week it will turn much colder with some of— week it will turn much colder with some of us— week it will turn much colder with some of us seeing snow. today we had snow across_ some of us seeing snow. today we had snow across parts of the north and north-east — snow across parts of the north and north—east of scotland. as we can further— north—east of scotland. as we can further sound cloudy with limited sunshine — further sound cloudy with limited sunshine and still relatively mild. the cold — sunshine and still relatively mild. the cold air will feed into night and through the rest of the week. all the _ and through the rest of the week. all the details later on in the programme. it's monday, the 6th of march. our main story. asylum seekers who cross the channel in small boats will be banned for life from returning to the uk or ever applying for british citizenship, under new laws expected to be announced by the government tomorrow. refugee groups say the proposals, which involve sending all small boat passengers to another country, such as rwanda, are unworkable. our political correspondent helen catt reports.
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small boats like these brought more than 16,000 migrants into the uk last year — an unfair and immoral trade, according to the prime minister, which he's personally pledged to stop. it is not cruel or unkind to want to break the stranglehold of criminal gangs, who trade in human misery and who exploit our system and laws. enough is enough. proposed new laws will be unveiled tomorrow to stop people who come to the uk through illegal routes from being able to claim asylum. instead, they will be detained and removed, according to the home secretary. the government will also announce tomorrow that once they are removed, they will be banned for life from the uk and barred from ever applying for british citizenship. legal challenges have stalled the government's flagship plan announced last summer to send asylum seekers to rwanda and some have doubts about the new legislation. just seems that it's more
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pandering to public opinion, rather than providing a clear plan as to how things are going to work. it's not really workable in terms of the wording so far. so the devil will be in the detail. especially in relation to where it says we're going to remove people to rwanda or other countries. that's quite problematic because we don't have agreements to return people to other countries. the refugee council has claimed it would lead to tens of thousands of refugees who would have been granted asylum in the uk being locked up in detention. working with france to tackle crossings is also considered vital by the government. the prime minister is due to meet the french president, emmanuel macron, on friday. for his pledge to stop the boats, this could be a pivotal week. helen catt, bbc news. let's speak to our chief political correspondent nick eardley. this correspondent nick eardley. is going to be a huge
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over this is going to be a huge story over the next few days and a big issue for rishi sunak. absolutely. it will issue for rishi sunak. absolutely. u will define — issue for rishi sunak. absolutely. it will define the _ issue for rishi sunak. absolutely. it will define the premiership - issue for rishi sunak. absolutely. it will define the premiership of i it will define the premiership of rishi sunak. he has made it one of his big test. he has promised as prime minister he will stop the small boats are riding in the south coast of england from the north of france. cider is quite radical, the idea that people would be banned from ever arriving in the uk if they take a small boat. that is a radical plan and bound to face legal challenges. it will face some criticism from charities. that from the prime minister is this has public support. i will be chatting to some conservative mps as well who think the small boats issue is really defining one. some are not convinced that what we have heard so
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far goes far enough. they want the uk to talk about leaving the european convention on human rights because that would remove some legal bars stopping people being sent to rwanda, for example. this is a really divisive issue, there are lots of views about whether the government is taking the right approach. rishi sunak is determined to go ahead with it and feels a lot of voters, particularly in red wall seats willjudge him on whether he succeeds. mil seats will 'udge him on whether he succeeds. �* , , ., ., succeeds. all eyes also on the appointment _ succeeds. all eyes also on the appointment system - succeeds. all eyes also on the appointment system today. i succeeds. all eyes also on the i appointment system today. sue succeeds. all eyes also on the - appointment system today. sue gray, the senior civil servant, who we all associate with partygate will be explaining why she now wants to work with sir keir starmer and the labour
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party. with sir keir starmer and the labour pa . . , with sir keir starmer and the labour pa. . ., ., with sir keir starmer and the labour pa. ., ., , party. really controversial how this came about _ party. really controversial how this came about. she _ party. really controversial how this came about. she has _ party. really controversial how this came about. she has quit _ party. really controversial how this came about. she has quit her- party. really controversial how this came about. she has quit herjob . party. really controversial how this i came about. she has quit herjob in government to go and work for keir starmer as his chief of staff. today she is going to put her application form into the body which vets civil servants going to do newjobs. one question that will be asked is, when she started talking to keir starmer about going to work for him as a labour employee. labour will not answer that question. i have asked them several times. they say we need to let the process play out. it is controversial. there are some conservative mps saying, hold on a minute, if the grey was chatting to the labour party, that is a problem for her impartiality while she is still working for government. labour said it did not happen when she was investigating borisjohnson. there is a question about whether she would have declared earlier that she
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was speaking to labour. i am not sure we will get an answer is that this process happens behind closed doors and we get a report at the end. it is controversial and it has got a lot of people at westminster pretty angry. you got a lot of people at westminster pretty angry-— got a lot of people at westminster pretty angry. you are going to have a very busy — pretty angry. you are going to have a very busy day. — pretty angry. you are going to have a very busy day, aren't _ pretty angry. you are going to have a very busy day, aren't you? - pretty angry. you are going to have a very busy day, aren't you? thank| a very busy day, aren't you? thank you for now. ambulance workers in england have called off strikes, which were due to take place today and wednesday. the unite union will enter pay talks with ministers. two other ambulance workers' unions — unison and gmb — had already paused their walkouts after what they said was a "huge shift" in the government's position. russian reservist troops have been sent into battle with ukrainians with only light firearms and shovels — that's according to the uk ministry of defence. the intelligence report comes as both sides continue to fight for the eastern city of bakhmut in a bid to take control of the area. our diplomatic correspondent james landale is in kyiv. james, what do these reports tell us about the russian offensive?
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well, i think it tells us just how it and fears the fighting is around the city of bakhmut in eastern ukraine, orwhat the city of bakhmut in eastern ukraine, or what is left of the city. essentially russian forces hold the south and east and the ukrainians hold the centre. the fighting is better, street by street, house by house door by door. there is the report that the british ministry of defence are reporting that somersaults have been carried out by russian forces with just firearms and shovels. they are about 20 inches long and are designed for digging trenches. lots of trenches are being dug in eastern ukraine right now. they are also designed to be weapons, they sharpen one side of it. it is their equivalent of a bayonet. it shows just how close the
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combat is now that some soldiers are using these shovels to try to assault ukrainian positions. it might tell us something about the state of russian ammunition stocks that share waves of russian soldiers being thrown into this battle, many thousands of them are dying and a lot of them are going into battle simply with firearms and their shovels. the fighting is better and there are reports that ukraine are beginning to contemplate making tactical withdrawals. beginning to contemplate making tacticalwithdrawals. i beginning to contemplate making tactical withdrawals. i do not think anything will move here very fast at the moment. anything will move here very fast at the moment-— the moment. thank you very much indeed. the notorious prisoner charles bronson will launch his latest bid for freedom at a public parole hearing, which starts today. the 70—year—old, who now uses the name charles salvador, is one of the uk's longest—serving prisoners and has a reputation for attacking staff and other inmates. our correspondent sean dilley reports.
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i've got a horrible, nasty, vicious, violent past. i've never killed anyone. charles bronson speaking on a channel a documentary. he has, though, harmed many people. the 70—year—old was convicted of armed robbery and wounding under his real name, michael peterson, in 197a. a year later, he attacked another inmate with a glass jug and became notorious for assaulting prisoners and staff. his offending continued. his sentences increased. all told, he said he held 11 hostages in nine different sieges. among them, his own solicitor and a prison librarian, for whom he demanded a ransom of a helicopter, a cup of tea and an inflatable doll. he's been involved in rooftop protests and repeated violence against inmates. in 2014, he received a two—year sentence for holding a prison governor in a headlock. now he says he's changed. never harmed a woman, never harmed a child. i'm focused, i'm sound. i can actually smell
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and taste freedom, like i've never, ever done in my life. later, the first day of a public parole hearing will begin at the high court in london. bronson is the second prisoner to have his case heard in public since the rules changed last year. the majority of people released each year from prison are released automatically. the parole board will look at people who've committed some of the most serious offenses — to consider whether it is safe to release them. each year, we review about 16,000 people and we release about 4,000 people. and it's all about looking at the evidence of the offenses that they've committed and the progress they've made in custody to determine whether it is safe for the public for those people to be released. the parole board'sjob is not to decide on their personal feelings towards a man who freely admits to having a horrible, nasty, vicious past. but instead they must decide whether he still presents a risk to others. sean dilley, bbc news.
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a mural dedicated to the rugby league star and motor neurone disease campaigner rob burrow has been vandalised. the artwork, which was unveiled outside the leeds beckett university union building in 2020, has been splattered with brown liquid. rob's dad geoff described the vandals as "sick cowards." insiders at the social media giant twitter have told bbc�*s panorama that the company is no longer able to protect users from online abuse, state co—ordinated disinformation and child sexual exploitation — following mass sackings and changes under new owner elon musk. exclusive academic research, and testimony from twitter users, supports their allegations, suggesting hate is thriving under musk�*s leadership. our social media and disinformation correspondent marianna spring reports. with more than 350 million users, twitter�*s often described
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as the town square of the internet. but since elon musk took over last october, the company has been in chaos. the personal abuse i receive on twitter has tripled. so i headed to san francisco to look for answers. twitter used to have around 7,500 employees. now at least half of them have been fired or chosen to leave, including lisa jennings young. she worked on features designed to protect users like me from online hate. thanks so much for having us. it was not at all perfect, but we were trying and we were making things better. one of these protective measures was a nudge function to scan tweets and ask users if they wanted to reconsider posting something potentially abusive. twitter�*s own research, seen by the bbc, appears to show the nudge and other safety tools being effective. so overall, 60% of users deleted or edited their reply when given a chance via the nudge. is it still happening? is there anyone working on it? no. there's no—one there to work on that at this time.
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the nudge does still exist. but when lisa and i tried it out, it appeared to be working less consistently. no nudge. one engineer still working at twitter, agreed to speak anonymously about what's been unfolding on the inside. it's like a building, where all the pieces are on fire. when you look at it from the outside, the facade looks fine, but i can see that nothing is working. like others i spoke to, he said it's been difficult to maintain features intended to protect twitter users from trolling and harassment. people like ellie wilson. while at university in glasgow, she was raped. she started sharing her experience as a survivor on social media last summer. but when she tweeted about her attacker injanuary after the takeover, she received dozens of abusive replies. the trolls' accounts targeting her had become more active since the takeover. some were newly created or appeared to have been reinstated after musk�*s amnesty on previously
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banned accounts. what would you say to elon musk if you had the opportunity? i would ask, "why are these accounts that are bullying and harassing people still allowed on the platform?" i would like him to read some of the messages that i've been sent and tell me why those accounts are still allowed to be on twitter. musk has used votes on twitter to make decisions about its future. these polls have no statistical value but, having contacted him every way possible, i used one to try to catch his attention. over 40,000 twitter users voted and 89% of them said they'd like elon musk to do an interview with me. neither twitter nor musk have responded to the points raised in this investigation. twitter says defending and respecting the user's voice remains one of its core values. but the users i've spoken to are left with questions. marianna spring, bbc news. the makers of toblerone are planning to remove the matterhorn mountain
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peakfrom its packaging when some of the chocolate's production is moved from switzerland to slovakia. you will recognise it from their shelves. the image of the alpine peak has been used since 1970 but strict rules mean swiss national symbols cannot be used to promote milk—based products that are not made exclusively in switzerland. it is not going forever. it is going to be a generic mountain image, not that particular mountain. there is only one matterhorn. we might have snow over the next few days. i have read allsorts of warnings about whether that is to come. what is true? john is right. snow is in the
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forecast. the met office has a couple of weather warnings for northern and eastern scotland and north—east england. not snow but also the risk of ice. there could be disruption to travel today also tomorrow. to 20 centimetres as possible in high ground in the north of scotland. we will see some of that getting down to lower levels as well. what is happening is we have this weather front producing cloud and drizzly rain as it sinks south. in the south we hang on to the cloud. we will see the rain arrive. behind it there will be sunshine and showers. a lot of them will be wintry with cold areas digging in behind. it may look like it will feel about 5 degrees but it will be colder than that. there will be sleet in the south, widespread frost and ice. northern ireland went northern scotland, eastern scotland
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and parts of eastern england are where we will see further snow showers. a lot of dry weather. it will feel cold. with the strength of the wind it will feel sub zero. look at aberdeen. it will feel like -5. that look at aberdeen. it will feel like —5. that is chilly. look at aberdeen. it will feel like -5. that is chilly.— let's go to hollywood. this time next week, we'll know who triumphed at the oscars and whether the ceremony passed without anyone getting slapped. one of the most fancied films — with a whopping nine nominations — is the dark comedy, the banshees of inisherin. our us west coast correspondent sophie long has been speaking to its director and three of its stars, who are all up for an oscar. now, if i've done something to you, just tell me what i've done to you.
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you didn't do anything to me. ijust don't like you no more. you liked me yesterday. the banshees of inisherin focuses on an intensely local conflict between two men when one unilaterally declares an end to theirfriendship. but it's resonated around the world. globally, universally, we all do go through much of the same things. so to feel it as colloquial and then see it go out into the world and be received by people from all sorts of, you know, the corners of the globe that we share is pretty surprising and cool. what's the best bit about being nominated for an oscar for you? just that they can't take it away. it is. it's like, you know, yeah, you're part of the history of the cinematic world in a way that i wanted to contribute to it. yeah. mad. did not see it coming. reserve the right to continue to say i did not see it coming and mean it. you know, it's one of the most
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shocking surprises i've had in 25 years of being an actor, how this film has been received. the picturesque and profane intermingle as the complexities of life and friendship are explored through brutal, dark comedy, earning the banshees of inisherin no less than nine oscar nominations. have you been rowing? we haven't been rowing. i don't think we've been rowing. have we been rowing? why wouldn't he answer the door to me? maybe he just doesn't like you no more. ijust start giggling because it just seems like really surreal and something i've wanted my whole life. yeah. so it's a dream come true. our gang are friends, being here with a film that we care about and like, and it isn't really oscar bait. it's kind of unusual
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and darker than some of those can be. to be proud of something and have this kind of glamorous, strange, almost silly thing as part of it, i like it — how do. how do, padraic. sit somewhere else. huh? er...but i have my pint there, colm. he has his pint there, colm, - from when he came in and ordered his pint before. well, ok, i'll sit somewhere else. to be here isjust an absolute joy. and look, we're doing it a while, this fella and me, and so... you can't legislate for what they're feeling. i didn't think i was looking forward to it, but i was. i thought i might, but i didn't. like, that's just a human thing. er, but it's not... it was a significant thing. joyous. yeah. it's there. it's done. what are you going to wear? oh, that's the question! what are you going to wear, big man? i know what i'm going to wear.
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i know what he's going to wear as well. watch out. watch this space. oh, yeah. tasty. i'm going to large. tasty. can't be waiting around for any more of this madness! - good luck to them. we will know soon. we will take a look every morning this week at some of the films in the shortlist for the oscars. you will know about them evenif oscars. you will know about them even if you have not seen them. let's take a look at some of today's newspapers. migrant crossings lead the front pages. the times reports that tens of thousands of asylum seekers could be detained under the government's £3 billion plan. there's also a picture of borisjohnson who has nominated his father for a knighthood. the former prime minister put stanleyjohnson's name on his resignation honours list, according to the paper.
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no comment from either of them. the guardian writes that rishi sunak faces criticism that his plans to stop small boat crossings are "unworkable" and the paper quotes campaigners who describe the proposals as "inhumane and costly." the daily express reports a claim that "ending the migrant crisis can win an election." the paper says that lee anderson, the conservative deputy chairman, believes the new legislation is a "clear dividing line" with labour. and the daily telegraph continues with its coverage of matt hancock's leaked whatsapp messages. the paper reports that the former health secretary rejected advice from the uk's chief medical officer to replace 14—day covid quarantines with five days of testing in november 2020. in quite the early days of the pandemic. across the uk, almost a million people are living with some form of dementia. it's an illness which can impact your memory, your mood and even your movement. it can also come at a huge financial and emotional cost for the loved ones around you. so, over the next few months, we're going to look at what it's like caring for someone
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with dementia, and what can be done to make things easier. we're going to start with someone who'll be familiar to you — our very own nina warhurst. nina's dad chris was diagnosed with dementia last year and it was down to nina and her sisters amy and mel to try to make some sense of it all. my dad is a funny man is how i'd sum up. ever since being little, he could give a little side eye at somebody — a stranger that he would just know we'd all find funny and we would all collapse in laughter. and he can still do that, even after all these years. he's funny. that is probably a word that most people, his colleagues, his friends, his family would use for him — he's very funny. and he's charming, he's a very charming man. he can still very much make me laugh. we can still make him laugh. that wit and humour is still very much there. not sure we always know
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what we're laughing at or about, but the laughter is very much there. so what year is that photo? that's the boy. who's that? georgie. george best. yeah. what do you remember about him? i remember him lifting the european cup. yeah. you were friends with him. oh, yeah. you used to go out with him. yeah. we used to go to old trafford to watch united play. yeah. and george bush would be there, wouldn't he? watching as well. and he always still came and said hello, didn't he? oh, it's more than that. those were the days, eh? yeah. this is what i don't understand about dementia. so we had an incredibly engaged and switched on gp. his social care team were supportive and empathetic. when he ended up in emergency care, salford royal hospital was amazing. he had three daughters who were engaged and wanted to do the best
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by him and still we collectively felt like we were in freefall. and until you have a clear diagnosis, you can't necessarily get all the support that you need. so you're left as a carer thinking you're trying your best but that you're failing everywhere. i had two very young girls. i had full—time work and a husband and to try and juggle all of that, it was near impossible. when i wasn't with him, i was thinking about him and it just takes over you completely. a really hard bit, and ifeel guilty now when i think about it is that he was getting on my nerves and having to do all these practical things was getting me down and because of that stress,
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we stopped having nice times together. we stopped enjoying one another�*s company. and i feel like that last year when we had him at home, we won't get that back now. and that's really hard, and i feel guilty about that. yeah. i do feel really guilty about that. sorry. # it's a dirty old town # dirty old town.# lovely. so it's been about a year now, hasn't it, since he moved in? because he's been there since, yeah, february 2022. and he's a lot more settled now. looking back to a year ago. yeah, absolutely. and i think, you know, that's because he's got the right care, isn't it? and we were absolutely
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doing our best. i feel really positive now about the future with my dad because his basic needs are being met. he's in a wonderful care home. he has regular visits with us. he's resting a lot. he's physically looking well. and i know we have great times ahead of us. nina and her sisters talking what life has been like. if you've cared for someone with dementia, we'd like to hear what it's been like for you and your family. and there's a new way to contact us at bbc breakfast. you can now send us a message on whatsapp — the number is 0330123 0440 — orjust scan the qr code with your phone's camera and that will automatically start a chat with us. scan it in, open up your camera, say the number into your contacts and then you never need to do that again. you will have all the time.
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you can still get in touch with us by e—mail and on twitter as well. we love hearing from you every morning. much more coming up here on the programme. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm asad ahmad. a family from north london who lost relatives in the earthquake in turkey a month ago have spoken to bbc london of the huge support they've received from londoners wanting to help. the meter family went to turkey before the earthquake for a family funeral. but after the earthquake struck, they buried seven more family members caught up in the devastation. donations have helped but the family say aid is still needed. they've got food. they're missing out on a little bit of water, but the main thing is getting an actual roof over their head. because the tents aren't, it's not good enough, because it's —5, minus six degrees there constantly. driving test examiners across london
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are taking the first of ten days of strike action. more than 20 test centres including ones in chingford, wood green, erith and isleworth are closed as more than 1,600 members of the pcs union employed by the dvla take action over pay, pensions and jobs. a reminder that fares across london transport have gone up by an average of almost 6%. the change came into effect yesterday which means an extra ten pence on single bus journeys and 30 pence more for a pay—as—you—go tube fare. travelcards have also gone up in price. with just over two weeks to go before islam's holy month of fasting begins, a world first, in the form of a pop—up ramadan pavilion complete with a pop—up mosque has been created on the grounds of the victoria and albert museum in south kensington. the colourful structure designed by london architect, shahid saleem draws inspiration from the v&a's archives and represents the history of mosques and muslims in britain.
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it's free to visit and the reusable and compostable pavilion will then go on a world tour. let's take a look at the tubes now. pretty much a good service on all lines, minor delays on the circle lines, minor delays on the circle line because of cube cancellations. now onto the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. it might be the start of the meteorological spring, but it will feel very much as if we're being plunged back into winter this week. some very cold air, a bitter northerly wind, widespread frost by night and also some possible snowfall as well. now, this morning, well it is a frosty start to the day for some, the temperatures having dropped a little below freezing last night in places. there will be some early brightness around. some brighter spells but then cloud will thicken into the afternoon, the wind will pick up and eventually will start to see some showery outbreaks of rain too.
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temperatures a little milder than they were yesterday but this is a cold front and behind it is that very chilly arctic air sinking down from the north. and that will be with us throughout the day on tuesday. which is looking still rather cloudy, perhaps some brighter spells later, but just a bit northerly wind blowing, and temperatures a lot lower than they have been of late. and of course with the added wind—chill it will feel colder than this. keep an eye on the forecast over the next couple of days or so because there's lots of uncertainty regarding the middle of the week. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. coming up on today's programme. it's 25 years since the singer george michael was "outed" by the press but he refused to be ashamed of his sexuality. we'll speak to the director of a new documentary. george webster has already blazed
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a trail as the first cbeebies presenter with down's syndrome, now he's published a book. george will be on the sofa with his co—author. and we'll speak to the boss of a lincolnshire antique store that received a flying visit from the hollywood starjohnny depp. and he spent some money as well! good! the government says its keeping one of the prime minister's key pledges. refugee charities say it's a flawed idea which would shatter the uk's international commitments. in the coming days, plans to crack down on people who enter the uk illegally by crossing the channel in small boats will be laid out in parliament. if those plans become law, anyone who does so will be removed from britain, banned from returning and prohibited from claiming citizenship. simonjones has been looking back at how the crossings began and why they've been so hard to stop.
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it is 2014 and two migrants are rescued from a child's dinghy, one of the first images captured of what would become known as the small boat crossings. over the years, those small boats have got much bigger, packed with more and more people looking for a new life in the uk. in 2019, the then home secretary, sajid javid, came to dover to declare a major incident. back then on busy days around 50 people would make it to the uk. now more than 1,000 people have been known to arrive in a single day. and these are the figures that tell the story. in 2018, 299 people crossed the channel on small boats. by 2020, that rose to more than 8,000. and last year, more than 45,000 people made the crossing. this year, home office officials are believed to be preparing for up to 80,000 arrivals. it was a crackdown in france on migrants trying to stow away
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on lorries that led to more people taking to the water. the uk has given millions of euros to the french authorities to try to stop the boats setting off from beaches in northern france. but the french police admit they can't have officers stationed on every stretch of coastline. in the uk, it's an issue that divides communities, with some questioning how many of those arriving are genuine refugees fleeing persecution and how many are economic migrants, particularly with a big increase in the number of albanians making the crossing. it frightens me, it bothers me. i don't... i think there's too many. you wouldn't come across the channel unless you were desperate. we can't cope, can we? that's what i think. you've got to understand that these people are coming from war—torn countries and stuff. and if you was in their situation, you'd want the same thing happening to you. the dangers of the crossings are all too real. in december, this was the distressing scene in the world's busiest shipping lane when a boat sank, claiming at least four lives. many more would have perished in the cold water if a passing
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fishing boat hadn't come to their aid. charities say what's needed are more safe and legal routes to reach the uk and they point out fewer people claim asylum here than in countries like france and germany. we need a more general safe legal route to asylum. the resettlement programmes and safe legal routes that we have currently aren't fit, aren't adequate for the amount of people that we should be taking and are taking legally. the criteria for these are very narrow and most people won't get protection under them. so we need a more general safe legal route. until we give people the alternative, a safe alternative, we won't see a stop to the small boats. they will continue to come. last year, the government unveiled plans to send some asylum seekers to rwanda, but they're still on hold due to legal challenges. and to introduce the nationality and borders act with a new offence of knowingly arriving without permission. but now it's planning further, tougher legislation. the prime minister has made this one of his top five priorities. we will pass new laws
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to stop small boats, making sure that if you come to this country illegally, you are detained and swiftly removed. later this week, rishi sunak will meet the french president, with channel crossings high on the agenda, expect more talk of closer cooperation, a renewed commitment to tackle the people smugglers. but critics say we've heard this all before to little effect. and new crackdowns won't stop the desire of many to reach the uk. simon jones, bbc news. we're joined now by enver solomon, chief executive of the refugee council. good lawday, mr sullivan. your reaction to these latest proposals?
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unfortunately i don't think they going to work. i don't think they are going to stop the boat and deliver what the perimeter wants to deliver, which is an admirable objective, the boat smuggling is highly dangerous and the people smugglers behind the need to be dealt with but the solution is not a final crackdown. the solution is to target the people smugglers, not the victims, the refugees in the boats. and it's to work with our european partners to come up with a deal because it is a global challenge that not one government can deal with. ., ., _ ., with. the government would say that that is art with. the government would say that that is part of — with. the government would say that that is part of the _ with. the government would say that that is part of the plan, _ with. the government would say that that is part of the plan, to _ with. the government would say that that is part of the plan, to deal- that is part of the plan, to deal with the people who do assist in crossings over the channel. let’s crossings over the channel. let's remember _ crossings over the channel. let's remember who _ crossings over the channel. let's remember who these _ crossings over the channel. let�*s remember who these people are, they are men, women and children and we have looked at the data from country life afghanistan, where people are being tortured and chased down, beaten, countries like iran where there is an autocratic regime, and then war—torn countries like syria and eritrea where people have to escape bullets and bombs. these are the people who are coming across the channel. the government's own data
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shows that two thirds of those coming across the channel last year will be allowed to stay in this country as refugees so what the government is now doing is effectively saying to refugees, you can't stay here, we are going to let you stay here even though that has always been the case, they have always been the case, they have always been the case, they have always been given a fair hearing and it is a really desperate attempt to deal with what is a challenge but it is not going to stop people coming because they can't, because they have a connection to the uk, they can speak english, they have community connections or they are from countries like afghanistan where there is a link to the uk. the --eole where there is a link to the uk. the people who — where there is a link to the uk. the people who make peace countries are from a variety of different backgrounds and have a variety of different stories and as you mentioned, some of them fleeing desperate situations but there has to be an element of deterrent at some point because not everybody has the same back story. trio. some point because not everybody has the same back story.— the same back story. no, not everybody — the same back story. no, not everybody has _ the same back story. no, not everybody has got _ the same back story. no, not everybody has got the - the same back story. no, not everybody has got the same l the same back story. no, not- everybody has got the same back story, i agree with that, i'm not
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naive. but the way you deal with this if you give people a fair hearing when they get here, by making timely, good quality decisions in a way that allows people to have their case heard. france and germany get far more asylum applications, they make decisions in a matter of months. in this country, because the government has created an asylum system which is disorderly, which is chaotic, and highly expensive, decisions aren't taken for over a year and a half. that doesn't act as any kind of deterrent to anybody. that simply says to people, you come here and you can wait in the system for months, over18 you can wait in the system for months, over 18 months, for your case to be heard. the way you deal with the system is you give people a fair hearing, you make good, timely decisions, and that is the most effective way of saying to people, if you come here and you are a refugee, of course we will welcome you. but if you're not, your case will be rejected. and then you've got to make sure that you actually
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return people, support them to be returned, because you support them to be returned, they will return to the countries they have come from if their cases rejected. what the countries they have come from if their cases rejected.— their cases re'ected. what are the ractical their cases rejected. what are the practical steps — their cases rejected. what are the practical steps that _ their cases rejected. what are the practical steps that need - their cases rejected. what are the practical steps that need to - their cases rejected. what are the practical steps that need to be - practical steps that need to be taken in order to process these claims more quickly?— taken in order to process these claims more quickly?- taken in order to process these claims more quickly? well, it's very simle, claims more quickly? well, it's very simple. and — claims more quickly? well, it's very simple. and it— claims more quickly? well, it's very simple, and it happens _ claims more quickly? well, it's very simple, and it happens in _ claims more quickly? well, it's very simple, and it happens in our- simple, and it happens in our neighbouring countries. we have enough staff for a start, you make sure they are well trained, you make sure they are well trained, you make sure they are well trained, you make sure they are well equipped to do thejob, and you make sure sure they are well equipped to do the job, and you make sure that when people arrive, there is a system of process which is known as triage where if you clearly are from a country such as afghanistan where 98% of people will be allowed to stay in this country, you quickly move that case through the system. if you're from a country such as india, where less than 5% of people will be allowed to stay in this country, you make a decision rapidly to look at that case and determine if it can count stay or can't and if it can't you enable the person to return to india through a deal with
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the indian government. that's the way to deal with the system and it can be done, and the european countries do it, we have had a government obsessed with security and pushing people away, tough talk, and pushing people away, tough talk, and it has failed to run the asylum system fairly, orderly way.- system fairly, orderly way. thank ou, system fairly, orderly way. thank you. enver— system fairly, orderly way. thank you, enver solomon. _ you, enver solomon. another shock in the topsy—turvy season in the sport. another shock in the topsy-turvy season in the sport.— season in the sport. having seen this -la season in the sport. having seen this play out _ season in the sport. having seen this play out yesterday, - season in the sport. having seen| this play out yesterday, liverpool beating manchester united by seven goals, i don't know if it was more surprising watching it all is if someone told you the score... you would never _ someone told you the score... you would never have _ someone told you the score... you would never have predicted it. did| would never have predicted it. did ou hear would never have predicted it. you hear the would never have predicted it. d c you hear the score? would never have predicted it. li c you hear the score? liverpool won it 7-0. i you hear the score? liverpool won it 7-0. ., ., ., ., you hear the score? liverpoolwon it 7-0. ., ., ., ., ., 7-0. i had it on the radio and i thou~ht 7-0. i had it on the radio and i thought it _ 7-0. i had it on the radio and i thought it was _ 7-0. i had it on the radio and i thought it was wrong. - 7-0. i had it on the radio and i thought it was wrong. surely l 7-0. i had it on the radio and i i thought it was wrong. surely not. 7-0. i had it on the radio and i - thought it was wrong. surely not. i know and feel is not a happy hunting ground for manchester united but they have just won a trophy and you
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think, they are on the up. i they have just won a trophy and you think, they are on the up.— think, they are on the up. i wonder what odds you _ think, they are on the up. i wonder what odds you could _ think, they are on the up. i wonder what odds you could have - think, they are on the up. i wonder what odds you could have got - think, they are on the up. i wonder what odds you could have got on i what odds you could have got on that _ what odds you could have got on that. ., ., ., ., �* that. you do wonder, don't you? astonishing _ that. you do wonder, don't you? astonishing stuff _ that. you do wonder, don't you? astonishing stuff yesterday. - extraordinary afternoon at anfield and a record breaking one too. six of the seven goals coming in the second half. eight days after united had lifted a trophy at wembley. joe lynskey reports. this was a result you had to see to believe. in all the games between them, there's never been one quite like this. for united, it was brutal, for liverpool, it was a record. and yet for 43 minutes it had been in the balance. gakpo's shot is in. brilliantly finished. injanuary, cody gakpo signed for liverpool when he might havejoined united. now that choice had changed the game. half time, 1—0, and it would get better quickly. 90 seconds from the restart, darwin nunez made it two. what had been a tight match was now all liverpool's. and it's clipped in by gakpo. gakpo lofted in his second,
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his team kept on rising. when it falls to mo salah in this match, it feels inevitable. he's now scored against united in five games in a row, this time as part of a collection. another nunez header, another goal. salah then was back to make it six. and there was still time. salah plays it through. it was behind firmino, but he's found a way to score their most magnificent seven. they'd not beaten united by this margin before, and these games can change a season. liverpool now have the top four in sight. united's title hopes are over. it's unprofessional. this is unacceptable and we let the fans down and i'm really disappointed and angry about it. it sounds like a day from another season, like, it doesn't fit really in this season so far. so even better it feels in the moment because it's so incredibly important for us. we need results. we need results,
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we need performances. and tonight we got both. manchester united have lost 7—0 before, but that was in the 1930s. this kind of scoreline comes round once in a lifetime. joe lynskey, bbc news. well, try following that! everton and nottingham forest drew two all in the day's other game. brennanjohnson enhancing his reputation with two goals for forest, as everton missed the chance to climb out of the relegation zone. celtic are nine points clear at the top of the scottish premiership again after beating ten—man st mirren 5—1. they trailed 1—0 at the break but made their extra man count in the second half. substitute liel abada one of five different scorers as they made it a very comfortable afternoon. this felt like watching the arsenal team's of old as they beat chelsea to win the women's league cup. four years since they last lifted a trophy, they were 3—1 winners against chelsea.
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for a long time they were the dominant force in women's football. their managerjonas eidevall says this victory will give them the belief they can get back there again. alessia russo scored a hat—trick as manchester united extended their lead at the top of the women's super league. the england striker helping them to a five—one win over leicester to take them three points clear of second placed manchester city who beat tottenham. there were also wins for aston villa and reading. it's no wonder she is the most exciting british track star in a generation. where keeley hodgkinson goes, most tend to follow, some distance behind. the olympic and world silver medallist taking victory here in the 800 metres at the european indoor championships. and it was an emotional win too, dedicating her victort to one dedicating her victory to one of her former coaches who died last week. and it was golden double for gb,
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team captainjazmin sawyers winning the long jump. her mark of seven metres a world leading distance this year. and as the reality of what she's done sank in, she could hardly believe it. that is her first major title. a huge jump. talking of winning things, is anyone going to beat max verstappen to the driver's title in formula one this season? the red bull driver won the opening race in bahrain after starting from pole. mercedes driver lewis hamilton predicting the gap is already too big to make up, despite a full 22 races lying ahead. he finished fifth, verstappen taking the chequered flag 12 seconds ahead of his teamamte sergio perez, fernando alonso was third. i know there is a long way to go but lewis hamilton already feels like the writing is on the wall in the seasonis the writing is on the wall in the season is only one race old. thank ou ve season is only one race old. thank you very much. — season is only one race old. thank you very much, john. _ season is only one race old. thank
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you very much, john. it _ season is only one race old. thank you very much, john. it looked - season is only one race old. thank. you very much, john. it looked quite nice there. not so nice here at the moment. it is going to get chilly. good morning, ithink moment. it is going to get chilly. good morning, i think the picture says it all, carol. it certainly does, snow is on the card this week and it's going to be much colder than last week with night—time widespread frosts, some of us seeing temperatures as low as -10. . of us seeing temperatures as low as -10. ~ , . of us seeing temperatures as low as -10. ~ ' . ., , of us seeing temperatures as low as -10. ~ ' . ., ., of us seeing temperatures as low as -10. ~ ' . ., , ., ., ., -10. the met office has awarded ad for the snow _ -10. the met office has awarded ad for the snow for _ -10. the met office has awarded ad for the snow for today _ -10. the met office has awarded ad for the snow for today and - -10. the met office has awarded ad i for the snow for today and tomorrow, north and east scotland and england, and as well as that, watch out for ice. travel disruption as possible because of this combination. we could be up to 20 centimetres of snow in higher ground in northern scotland, five to ten in north—east england but it will not be all falling on high ground, we will see some in lower levels as well. it is all coming in behind the cold front, bringing in rain and drizzle as it sinks south, allowing arctic air to flow in behind it, turning colder, snow showers across the far north of
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scotland, on and off as it goes through the course of the day, intercepted with some sunshine. here is the weather front through the morning, continuing thejourney south, taking catchy like rain and drizzle with it. any sunshine will be eradicated. behind it showers are likely to full as sleet. these are the temperatures, we still are in the temperatures, we still are in the milder air is we push for the south. furthersouth. the milder air is we push for the south. further south. as the cold front sinks south, taking rain, sleet and snow when it, behind it to the cold air speaks in. a widespread frost, the risk of ice on treated surfaces and these are the temperatures tonight. —— on untreated surfaces. the snow showers continuing to pile in northern scotland, the east coast of england and into northern ireland. one or two in north wales as well. that is
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how we start tomorrow, the weather front clears away from the south, a lot of dry weather tomorrow, quite sunny but if you are in an area exposed to the northerly wind, northern scotland, northern ireland and parts of eastern scotland, this is where we are going to see most of the snow showers. we could see the odd flurry inland but not as many as round the coasts. temperatures might be 1—7 on the thermometer but when you add on the wind chill, it's going to feel some zero four many of us. as we head through tuesday night, all of the blue represents how cold it will be, —10 in parts of the highlands. watch out for ice and a widespread frost. we are not done with the snow, either. that sounds ominous. thank you for
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the warning, at least we know. pleasure! the former civil servant sue gray will approach the government appointments watchdog today to discuss her potential new role as chief of staff to the labour leader sir keir starmer. it's been controversial because it was ms gray who led a highly—critical report into lockdown gatherings held in downing street. we can speak now to the shadow health secretary wes streeting. good morning. ithink good morning. i think the crucial thing we need to know is, when did sue gray start talking to keir starmer and labour about thisjob starmer and labour about this job because starmer and labour about thisjob because she is an independent, impartial civil servant? she because she is an independent, impartial civil servant?- because she is an independent, impartial civil servant? she will be disclosina impartial civil servant? she will be disclosing that _ impartial civil servant? she will be disclosing that as _ impartial civil servant? she will be disclosing that as part _ impartial civil servant? she will be disclosing that as part of- impartial civil servant? she will be disclosing that as part of the - disclosing that as part of the process which is still ongoing so there is not much i can or should say in relation to the process. i would gently point out that keir starmer�*s chief of staff previously, sam white, departed towards the very end of last year, and of course the
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recruitment process for a new chief of staff would have started beyond that. so you can draw your own conclusions. just to underline the fact that there is quite rightly a process that governs these types of appointments, because this is not the first time that someone who has had a senior role in the seve civil service or the diplomatic service has gone on to work for the next prime ministerfor a has gone on to work for the next prime minister for a different political party and that is a string of government because you want people who understand how government works, prepared to help the opposition party as it prepares for government. to do that important work which is what, if the process comes to a successful conclusion, sue gray will be doing is chief of staff to the leader of the opposition, that crucial work of preparing labourfor opposition, that crucial work of preparing labour for government so we can hit the ground running on day one and put our promises into action. , ., , , ., one and put our promises into action. , .,, i. action. ok, but if, as you point out, action. ok, but if, as you point out. the _ action. ok, but if, as you point out. the job — action. ok, but if, as you point out, the job was _ action. ok, but if, as you point out, the job was advertised - action. ok, but if, as you point out, the job was advertised a l action. ok, but if, as you point. out, the job was advertised a few weeks ago, if it turns out she has
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been speaking to labour for a few weeks about potentially keep doing this job, weeks about potentially keep doing thisjob, you can see weeks about potentially keep doing this job, you can see why some in whitehall will find that were either unnerving or even an acceptable become —— unacceptable because she is at the same time an independent civil servant. i is at the same time an independent civil servant-— civil servant. i find that a bit hard to swallow, _ civil servant. i find that a bit hard to swallow, to - civil servant. i find that a bit hard to swallow, to be - civil servant. i find that a bit i hard to swallow, to be honest. civil servant. i find that a bit - hard to swallow, to be honest. you can look at serious conservative politicians, i realise they are in short supply today, but if you look at previous serious conversation —— contented politicians, francis maude, george osborne, all saying that sue gray is someone of impeccable personality. she has worked for civil servants, labour and conservative, no one has ever suggested that she gossips about the previous administration, or divulges things that she isn't meant to, she
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is a consummate professional by all accounts. it says a lot about the current conservative party and white rishi sunak finds current conservative party and white rishi sunakfinds it current conservative party and white rishi sunak finds it so current conservative party and white rishi sunakfinds it so hard to manage the rabble that we have had all sorts of crackpot conspiracy theories rolled out for an appointment which is, i can understand why they might find it embarrassing that people are looking to labour and want to work with labour as potentially the next government, but i think it's sad that some conservatives have chosen to traduce the reputation of a good civil servant in this way or pretend that they have not been examples in the past, ed llewellyn was a diplomat before and after working for david cameron as his chief of staff. it's one of these stories which preoccupies a lot of people in westminster, i doubt most people across the country care very much at all about this story and they care more about things like the cost of living or small boats.— living or small boats. small boats matter to a _
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living or small boats. small boats matter to a lot _ living or small boats. small boats matter to a lot of _ living or small boats. small boats matter to a lot of voters, - living or small boats. small boats matter to a lot of voters, people | matter to a lot of voters, people waiting to hear the detail of rishi sunak wants to do that in the next couple of days but from what you have seen, and we have had some detail are ready, is this the kind of policy that labour will support? it doesn't seem like anything new, to be honest. priti patel the former home secretary has described this as window dressing and said there is nothing new in these proposals. we are pulling our hair out because like everyone else, we are watching these small boats come across, it is incredibly dangerous, completely unacceptable way for people to arrive, but it's partly because the government goes after headline grabbing gimmicks, ratherthan grabbing gimmicks, rather than trying grabbing gimmicks, ratherthan trying to solve the actual problem. we have put forward our own proposals, taking hundreds of millions of pounds that would be wasted on the reminder scheme, put it into the national crime agency so we can start rounding up and arresting the criminal gangs that are trafficking people, but also, they realise this is a boring point but it is the most effective, speeding up the and decision—making of the asylum claims. fewer than 1%
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of the asylum claims. fewer than 1% of small bite arrivals are being processed and that is a disgrace. the numbered of returns and failed applications are down something like 80% compared to a labour left office in 2010. speeding up the quality of decision—making at the speed of decision—making at the speed of decision—making is so important and returning people where they have got failed claims is also essential. the final thing i will add, we have got to have safe routes. look at the afghan resettlement scheme, only 22 people on pathway two were resettled from afghanistan and more than 8000 afghans are coming across the channel including people who fought for this country. so they have got to sort out those three things, decision—making, safe crossings and making sure we cut down the criminal gangs. making sure we cut down the criminal ans. ., making sure we cut down the criminal iians, ., making sure we cut down the criminal trans. ., , making sure we cut down the criminal ianis. ., , ., making sure we cut down the criminal iains. ., , ., gangs. you say there is nothing new, but what this — gangs. you say there is nothing new, but what this apparently _ gangs. you say there is nothing new, but what this apparently is _ gangs. you say there is nothing new, but what this apparently is going - gangs. you say there is nothing new, but what this apparently is going to l but what this apparently is going to say that anyone who arrives, in a small boat in britain, would be banned from ever returning or being able to claim citizenship here in
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the future. that is new and if that has become law, and i appreciate thatis has become law, and i appreciate that is a big if, would you overturn it if you win the election? 50 that is a big if, would you overturn it if you win the election?- it if you win the election? so what do we say to _ it if you win the election? so what do we say to an — it if you win the election? so what do we say to an afghan _ it if you win the election? so what do we say to an afghan soldier - it if you win the election? so what l do we say to an afghan soldier who has fought for this country, comes over on a small boat? thank you for risking your life, mate, but you're now going back to afghanistan where we felt it before, failed you again and failing you for the third time. the government wants a particular policy to wind up in court so they can go on a rampage with labour. would you call it a gimmick? i can go on a rampage with labour. would you call it a gimmick? i don't think it will — would you call it a gimmick? i don't think it will see _ would you call it a gimmick? i don't think it will see the _ would you call it a gimmick? i don't think it will see the light _ would you call it a gimmick? i don't think it will see the light of - would you call it a gimmick? i don't think it will see the light of day, - think it will see the light of day, i don't think it will go through parliament, i don't think anyone in their right mind thinks it is sensible. theyjust want their right mind thinks it is sensible. they just want to their right mind thinks it is sensible. theyjust want to come on programmes like this and say it is terrible leftyjudges and labour lawyers that have doctors doing this. they need to get a grip on the
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speed of decision—making, making sure there are so scheme is that people can use in going after the criminal gangs that are exploiting people because i don't want to see people because i don't want to see people arriving on small boats, i feel for the coastal communities who see people washing up on their shores everyday in the most desperate situations, it's not right, it's not fair and it's the responsibility of 13 years of failed immigration policy and this isjust the latest in long line of gimmicks. this is why we need to ask an alternative level—headed labour government to help with these problems. government to help with these iroblems. ,., ., government to help with these problems-— government to help with these iroblems. ., ., problems. report on the front page ofthe problems. report on the front page of the times — problems. report on the front page of the times that _ problems. report on the front page of the times that boris _ problems. report on the front page of the times that boris johnson - problems. report on the front page of the times that boris johnson has | of the times that borisjohnson has nominated his father stanleyjohnson nominated his father stanley johnson for nominated his father stanleyjohnson for his —— for a knighthood, what you make of that? i for his -- for a knighthood, what you make of that?— for his -- for a knighthood, what you make of that? i did see that, i can't wait to _ you make of that? i did see that, i can't wait to see _ you make of that? i did see that, i can't wait to see boris _ you make of that? i did see that, i can't wait to see boris johnson's . can't wait to see boris johnson's honours list. i think there is a reason why it has been held up and i think it speaks to a pattern of boris johnson's think it speaks to a pattern of borisjohnson's behaviour around boris johnson's behaviour around cronyism, borisjohnson's behaviour around cronyism, i couldn't care less, to
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be honest, whether stanleyjohnson gets a knighthood. what i do find it extraordinary is there are still many conservative mps who to this day continue to defend boris johnson's behaviour. that's why rishi sunak finds the conservative party such an ungovernable, not able to beat lee did rabble because they continue to desecrate not able to be led rabble and it is now time for the conservatives to be in opposition, get theiract the conservatives to be in opposition, get their act together and let a serious party do some governing for a way. we and let a serious party do some governing for a way.— and let a serious party do some governing for a way. we will wait to see what happens, _ governing for a way. we will wait to see what happens, thank— governing for a way. we will wait to see what happens, thank you, - governing for a way. we will wait to see what happens, thank you, wes| see what happens, thank you, wes streeting. see what happens, thank you, wes streetini. ., ~ see what happens, thank you, wes streetini. ., ,, , ., time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london. if i'm a family from north london who lost relatives turkey a month ago have spoken of the huge support
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they have received. but after the earthquake struck, they ended up burning seven more family members caught up in the devastation. donations have helped, but the families see aid is still needed. they have got food. they are missing out on a little bit of water, but the main thing is again an actual roof over their heads, because the tents are not good enough because it is minus six degrees constantly. direct driving test examiners across london are taking the first of ten days of strike action. more than 1600 members of the pcs union employed by the dvla take action over pay and pensions and jobs.
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a reminder that fares across london transport have gone up by an average of almost 6%. the change came into effect yesterday which means an extra ten pence on single bus journeys and 30 pence more for a pay—as—you—go tube fare. travelcards have also gone up in price. with just over two weeks to go before islam's holy month of fasting begins, a world first, in the form of a pop—up ramadan pavilion complete with a pop—up mosque has been created on the grounds of the victoria and albert museum in south kensington. the colourful structure designed by london architect shahid saleem draws inspiration from the v&a's archives and represents the history of mosques and muslims in britain. it's free to visit and the reusable and compostable pavilion will then go on a world tour. let's take a look at the tubes now. line because of tube cancellations. now onto the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. it might be the start of the meteorological spring, but it will feel very much as if we're being plunged back into winter this week. some very cold air, a bitter northerly wind, widespread frost by night and also
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some possible snowfall as well. now, this morning, well it is a frosty start to the day for some, the temperatures having dropped a little below freezing last night in places. there will be some early brightness around. some brighter spells but then cloud will thicken into the afternoon, the wind will pick up and eventually will start to see some showery outbreaks of rain too. temperatures a little milder than they were yesterday but this is a cold front, and behind it is that very chilly arctic air sinking down from the north. and that will be with us throughout the day on tuesday. which is looking still rather cloudy, perhaps some brighter spells later, but just a bitter northerly wind blowing, and temperatures a lot lower than they have been of late. and of course with the added wind—chill, it will feel colder than this. keep an eye on the forecast over the next couple of days or so because there's lots of uncertainty regarding the middle of the week. that's it. i'll be back in half an hour.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. our headlines today — anyone crossing the channel in a small boat would be banned from ever returning to the uk, but refugee charities say the new government plans are unfair and unworkable. one of britain's most notorious and violent prisoners, charles bronson, makes his latest bid for freedom at a public parole hearing. caring for a loved one with dementia. we're hearing how families cope with such a cruel disease. nina will be sharing her own personal story. in sport — seventh heaven for liverpool. a record—breaking victory forjurgen klopp's side against rivals manchester united on an extraordinary afternoon. good
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on an extraordinary afternoon. morning. as we go week, good morning. as we go through this week, turning much colder than it has been. snow and the forecast, potentially as far south as southern england. today we have a weather front moving south taking its cloud, patchy rain and drizzle with it. behind it, cold air digs in with snow showers in the north. all the details later in the programme. good morning. it's monday the 6th of march. our main story — asylum seekers who cross the channel in small boats will be banned for life from returning to the uk or ever applying for british citizenship, under new laws expected to be announced by the government tomorrow. refugee groups say these proposals, which involve sending all small boat passengers to another country, such as rwanda, are unworkable. our political correspondent helen catt reports. small boats like these brought more than 45,000 migrants into the uk last year — an unfair and immoral trade, according to the prime minister, which he's personally pledged to stop. it is not cruel or unkind
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to want to break the stranglehold of criminal gangs, who trade in human misery and who exploit our system and laws. enough is enough. proposed new laws will be unveiled tomorrow to stop people who come to the uk through illegal routes from being able to claim asylum. instead, they will be detained and removed, according to the home secretary. the government will also announce tomorrow that once they are removed, they will be banned for life from the uk and barred from ever applying for british citizenship. legal challenges have stalled the government's flagship plan announced last summer to send asylum seekers to rwanda and some have doubts about the new legislation. just seems that it's more pandering to public opinion, rather than providing a clear plan as to how things are going to work. it's not really workable in terms of the wording so far. so the devil will be in the detail. especially in relation
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to where it says we're going to remove people to rwanda or other countries. that's quite problematic because we don't have agreements to return people to other countries. the refugee council has claimed it would lead to tens of thousands of refugees who would have been granted asylum in the uk being locked up in detention. working with france to tackle crossings is also considered vital by the government. the prime minister is due to meet the french president, emmanuel macron, on friday. for his pledge to stop the boats, this could be a pivotal week. helen catt, bbc news. let's speak to our chief political correspondent nick eardley. nick — how important are these plans for rishi sunak? a big deal because rishi sunak has made it one of the big test of his premiership, in his words, stop the small boats. it is an issue that a lot of conservative mps care about
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what they think it really matters to their constituents, and they are determined to come up with a plan. the big question is, as this one going to work? the idea of the government has is by doing things like banning people from ever coming back to the uk, telling them that their asylum application will be automatically rejected, but you remove some of the incentives. you tell people who are thinking of crossing the channel, it is just not going to work. there's no point risking it. the question is, will this achieve anything that hasn't been tried before? wejust this achieve anything that hasn't been tried before? we just had wes streeting from the labour party on breakfast saying there is nothing new in this, it is gimmicks, because it has all been tried before. privately, chatting to some tory mps, they are saying they are not convinced it necessarily goes far enough either, they want to see for example the uk leaving the european convention of human rights, which governs some of the laws that the uk
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has to follow. i am pretty sure that whatever the government announces tomorrow, it will face a legal challenge, that could mean that this is delayed a bit, it could mean there are big rows in parliament about whether or not it should happen. but what we are getting from the prime minister is a signal that he is prepared to go pretty far in trying to fulfil that promise to stop small boats, and that he wants to, he believes, try some new things out to see if they work in a way that previous plans just have not. and sue gray will formally tell the government appointments watchdog later about herjob offer from sir keir starmer. and timing on this is crucial, isn't it? it and timing on this is crucial, isn't it? ., , , and timing on this is crucial, isn't it? ., y , , it? it really is, the big question is when did _ it? it really is, the big question is when did sue _ it? it really is, the big question is when did sue gray _ it? it really is, the big question is when did sue gray tell-
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it? it really is, the big question is when did sue gray tell the i it? it really is, the big question i is when did sue gray tell the civil service that keir starmer was looking to employ her? probably most famous civil servant in the country, we are now expecting her to go and work for the labour leader after conducting the investigation into partygate. that has caused fury among borisjohnson's allies, saying it raises questions about the integrity of her report. it looks as though this process started it while after that report was concluded, but the question being asked is, did she tell of the civil service early enough that she was chatting to sir keir starmer? i am told she will fill our application form to the body that vets civil servants going to work for political parties. she will fill out that form today. she will fill out that form today. she will tell them when she started talking to the labour party. again, we just asked labour frontbencher wes streeting about it, no answers publiclyjust wes streeting about it, no answers publicly just yet. wes streeting about it, no answers publiclyjust yet. it might be a few weeks before we find out, but sooner or later, that will come out. filth. or later, that will come out. oh, thank you _ or later, that will come out. oh, thank you very _ or later, that will come out. oh,
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thank you very much. _ police officers searching for five friends who were reported missing after a night out in newport, south wales, have found three of them dead, and two with serious injuries. the group had been missing since the early hours of saturday. gwent police say the car was recovered in the early hours of today, off the a48. the force has not revealed which of them has died. ambulance workers in england have called off strikes which were due to take place today and wednesday. the unite union will enter pay talks with ministers. two other ambulance workers' unions — unison and gmb — had already paused their walkouts after what they said was a "huge shift" in the government's position. the notorious prisoner charles bronson will launch his latest bid for freedom at a public parole hearing which starts today. the 70—year—old, who now uses the name charles salvador, is one of the uk's longest serving prisoners and has a reputation for attacking staff and other inmates. this our correspondent sean dilley reports.
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i've got a horrible, nasty, vicious, violent past. i've never killed anyone. charles bronson speaking on a channel 4 documentary. he has, though, harmed many people. the 70—year—old was convicted of armed robbery and wounding under his real name, michael peterson, in 1974. a year later, he attacked another inmate with a glass jug and became notorious for assaulting prisoners and staff. his offending continued. his sentences increased. all told, he said he held 11 hostages in 9 different sieges. among them, his own solicitor and a prison librarian, for whom he demanded a ransom of a helicopter, a cup of tea and an inflatable doll. he's been involved in rooftop protests and repeated violence against inmates. in 2014, he received a two—year sentence for holding a prison governor in a headlock. now he says he's changed. never harmed a woman, never harmed a child. i'm focused, i'm sound.
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i can actually smell and taste freedom, like i've never, ever done in my life. later, the first day of a public parole hearing will begin at the high court in london. bronson is the second prisoner to have his case heard in public since the rules changed last year. the majority of people released each year from prison are released automatically. the parole board will look at people who've committed some of the most serious offenses to consider whether it is safe to release them. each year, we review about 16,000 people and we release about 4,000 people. and it's all about looking at the evidence of the offences that they've committed and the progress they've made in custody to determine whether it is safe for the public for those people to be released. the parole board'sjob is not to decide on their personal feelings towards a man who freely admits to having a horrible, nasty, vicious past. but instead they must decide whether he still presents a risk to others. sean dilley, bbc news.
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a mural dedicated to the rugby league star and motor neurone disease campaigner rob burrow has been vandalised. the artwork, which was unveiled outside the leeds beckett university union building in 2020, has been splattered with brown liquid. rob's dad geoff described the vandals as "sick cowards." the makers of toblerone are planning to remove the matterhorn mountain peak from its packaging when some of the chocolate's production is moved from switzerland to slovakia. the image of the alpine peak has been used since 1970 but strict rules mean swiss national symbols cannot be used to promote milk—based products that are not made exclusively in switzerland. and we've had several
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message this morning, pointing out that there is a hidden bear within that famous matterhorn image, if you look carefully it's rearing up on its hind legs and standing in profile. sally gasps. in all of my professional years of toblerone eating, i have never seen the bear before. toblerones are currently mid—in the swiss city of bern, known as the city of bears. if the mountain has to go, surely the bear has to go as well. more contributed than you think. will it still takes the same? that is the most important thing. —— taste the
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same. it's 7.14. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. some tricky travelling conditions can possible some disruption as well, so if you are on remove, do bear that in well, so if you are on remove, do bearthat in mind. well, so if you are on remove, do bear that in mind. today we have a weather front, bear that in mind. today we have a weatherfront, it is bear that in mind. today we have a weather front, it is south, taking cloud, rain and drizzle with it. behind it, cold airfading and across scotland, northern england and northern ireland, and we will continue with wintry showers peppering the far north and north—east of scotland. coming south, cloudy, starting with a little bit of sunshine, but that will fill in, and this patchy light rain and drizzle will continue its journey heading southwards. behind it, cold air still digging journey heading southwards. behind it, cold airstill digging in, any showers likely to be obsolete at lower levels, and these are our temperatures, one in lubbock to eat
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in cardiff and plymouth. the evening and overnight, the weatherfront will take its cloud, patchy light rain and drizzle, snow coming in behind it, but we snow largely on areas exposed to the northerly wind, sun northern ireland, northern scotland, eastern and north—eastern england. a cold night, the risk of ice on untreated surfaces, and a widespread frost. into tomorrow, eventually we lose that weather front, a lot of dry weather around, some sunshine as well, but again where we have the northerly wind is where we have the northerly wind is where we have the northerly wind is where we will see the snow showers, and although these are the temperatures you will see on your thermometer, it will feel much colder than that because of the wind. a quick peek at wednesday, potential you can see some snow getting on across southern counties for a time as well. carol, thank you very much, more detailfrom for a time as well. carol, thank you very much, more detail from you as the programme goes on. it's exactly four weeks since the devastating earthquakes which killed more than 50,000 people across turkey and syria. many of those who survived have been left without homes, and are now living in tents
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and train carriages as our correspondent anna foster reports. these trains haven't left the station for a month. they're homes instead now to earthquake survivors. yilmaz and five of his family live in this carriage. they sleep on the seats, the few possessions they have around them. translation: they wanted to provide tents to us, but i refused. _ tents are cold and this place has a notoriously strong wind. when it blows, all the tents will end up on the sea. afad, the turkish disaster management agency, says around 2 million people have left the quake zone altogether. 1.5 million more are still here and struggling. there's anger, too, that so many buildings were allowed to have
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design features that struggle to withstand an earthquake. more than 160,000 either collapsed or were badly damaged. and it wasn'tjust the old ones. this is a well—to—do area. it's close to the park and there are lots of modern buildings. all of them should have stayed up. but look, this one is so new that you can still see the stickers in the glass on the top floor. nobody had even moved in there yet, and yet it has still toppled to the ground. the scale of the task ahead is enormous. there isn't enough mechanical equipment in the country to clear the rubble quickly. so places like iskenderun's collapsed hospital wing stay as they are. personal medical notes litter the ruins. there are smashed pieces of equipment and medicines lying on the floor. it's a moment frozen in time. people across southern turkey simply
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don't know how long they'll be living like this for. some, like this woman, want to stay as close to home as they can. she's sleeping in a tent right outside her damaged house. translation: my valuable articles are in there. - thieves are roaming around. the police are barely keeping them away. lots of thieves. how can i leave here? sprawling tented camps are the new towns. big promises have been made for a programme of permanent rebuilding. but it won't happen quickly. you can't deal with devastation on a scale like this in days or even in weeks. the impact of this is going to be felt by people here in southern turkey for years. anna foster, bbc news, antakya. anna fosterjoins us now.
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anna, the scale of this crisis is just vast, isn't it? yes, and this building, you can see, infour yes, and this building, you can see, in four weeks, absolutely nothing has been done to it. no clearing, nothing. this is another new building that should have stayed up. it was and were a couple of years old, and again you can see how it has just been ripped from its foundations and fallen down. and what you have here now is attempts to try to make it a little more comfort for people who survived. you have these containers that have been brought in. but actually, nobody is living in these yet, they have not been plumbed in. they are there but they are not operational. you still have people you can see in the far distance living in tents, doing what
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they can, using the small amount of food that is provided to them. one thing that is particularly noticeable this morning, the wind that yilmaz talked about that comes blowing in off the sea, it keeps picking up great gusts of dirt and bits of broken glass and blowing it all around here, and bits of broken glass and blowing it allaround here, and it bits of broken glass and blowing it all around here, and it really gives you an indication of how grim, how difficult life is here now four weeks on four people, and how much longer it will continue to be that way. longer it will continue to be that wa . ~ ., longer it will continue to be that wa , �* ., ., " longer it will continue to be that wa. . . .," longer it will continue to be that wa. . ., .mi, , way. indeed. anna, thank you very much indeed _ way. indeed. anna, thank you very much indeed for _ way. indeed. anna, thank you very much indeed for that _ way. indeed. anna, thank you very much indeed for that update, - much indeed for that update, important we keep going back to that story. a year ago, sir ernest shackleton's ship the endurance was discovered beneath the ice in antarctica, after laying frozen in time for more than 100 years. now the leaders of the expedition that found her have made another discovery — they've located the entry for her sinking in the archives of lloyds of london, the ship's insurers. our science editor rebecca morelle went for a look. it was the shipwreck they thought would never be found. but a year ago, sir ernest shackleton's lost ship,
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endurance, was discovered, lying 3,000 metres down in the antarctic deep, almost perfectly preserved, frozen in time. but this remarkable find has set the expedition team off on another quest. this time at lloyd's insurers in the city of london. whenever a large ship is lost to the sea, it's recorded in pen and ink in a loss book. it's a tradition that still happens today, but it goes back to 1774. and the hope was they'd find shackleton's ship on the day she sank. we've come to where the archives are stored. there are 140 loss books going back hundreds of years. shackleton's endurance sank in november 1915, so you'd expect the record to be in this loss book here for 1915. but the news of the sinking in antarctica took a while to reach london. and in fact, the record has been discovered in this book here
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injune 1916. and now, a century after it was written, the book is being opened up again. so these were all the loss books from lloyd's, and this is the loss book. john shears, who discovered endurance in antarctica, has brought alexandra shackleton, ernest shackleton's granddaughter, to see the record. and as you can see... amazing. ..endurance, british, crushed by ice in the weddell sea and afterwards founded. he would never have seen this entry, would he? gee, that's a good question. it was an amazing experience. i didn't know there was an entry in the loss book. i knew very little about the loss book. it's all part of the amazing pattern of more and more information surfaces. these were the final moments of endurance captured in footage restored and released by the bfi. we know from shackleton's diary that the ship sank beneath the ice on the 21st of november 1915. it took the endurance crew six months and a trek of hundreds
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of miles to get to safety. incredibly, they all survived. so shackleton was only able to send a telegram back to a newspaper in london at the end of may, 1916. your grandfather sent a report on the 31st of may in the falklands, that was reported by the chronicle in their late edition on the 1st. shackleton's ship endurance was the first ship to be insured what lloyd's called into the ice zone. at that time, she was one of the strongest wooden ships ever built. so lloyd's actually thought that she was a very good risk. but of course, he lost the ship. and lucky for him, he had the insurance policy, and we now know that the insurance policy paid out. shackleton was paid £15,000 by the insurers weeks after the loss book entry was made. in today's money, that's more than £1,000,000. so what will happen to the wreck now? i think she should be left as she is, miraculous. she still exists in the wonderful, beautiful form she is.
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she should just be left there. i've even had people come to say to me, "it's better she'd never have been discovered, more romantic." but i'm very happy she has been discovered. but i never thought there would be images, let alone beautiful images. so for now, the ship will be left resting in the darkness of this remote corner of the world. but her stories and the discoveries will keep on coming. rebecca morelle, bbc news. if you've ever cared for a loved one with dementia, you are not alone. around a million people are living with the illness, and it can be reallly tough. our breakfast colleague nina knows that all too well. her dad chris has dementia, and nina has been trying her best to look after him, along with her sisters amy and mel. nina's made a film about that experience.
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we'll play it at around 8.10, and nina willjoin us for a chat afterwards. we've had loads of supportive messages this morning. lizzie said, "we lost my opa — grandad — last year. he had late stage vascular dementia. he was the bedrock of our family, so i was very moved by nina's story as the guilt she feels is something that i empathize with on every level." another message of support saying, "when nina said that she was getting stressed with the everyday caring and missed the good times, that's exactly how i felt. you are not alone, nina, and we should have no guilt because we did our best at the time."
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keep your messages coming in. time now to get the news, travel, and weather where you are. good morning, i'm asad ahmad. the a&e department at croydon hospital remains closed this morning after a fire in a clinic room which led to 80 patients being evacuated. it broke out yesterday afternoon. no—one was hurt and the hospital says all other services are now operating normally, including scheduled surgery and outpatient clinics. a family from north london who lost relatives in the earthquake in turkey a month ago have spoken to bbc london of the huge support they've received from londoners wanting to help. the meter family went to turkey before the earthquake
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for a family funeral. but after the earthquake struck they buried seven more family members caught up in the devastation. donations have helped but the family say aid is still needed. they've got food. they're missing out on a little bit of water, but the main thing is getting an actual roof over their head. because the tents aren't, it's not good enough, because it's —5, minus six degrees there constantly. with just over two weeks to go before islam's holy month of fasting begins, a world first in the form of a pop—up ramadan pavilion complete with a pop—up mosque has been created on the grounds of the victoria and albert museum in south kensington. the colourful structure designed by london architect shahid saleem draws inspiration from the v&a's archives and represents the history of mosques and muslims in britain. it's free to visit and the reusable and compostable pavilion will then go on a world tour.
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before the travel, a reminder that fares across london transport have gone up by an average of almost 6%. the change came into effect yesterday, which means an extra ten pence on single bus journeys and 30 pence more for a pay—as—you—go tube fare. let's take a look at the tubes now. issues on the circle, jubilee, metropolitan and picadilly lines. due to a combination of train cancellations and signal failures. now onto the weather with elizabeth. hello, good morning. it might be the start of the meteorological spring, but it will feel very much as if we're being plunged back into winter this week. some very cold air, a bitter northerly wind, widespread frost by night and also some possible snowfall as well. now, this morning, well it is a frosty start to the day for some, the temperatures having dropped a little below freezing last night in places. there will be some early brightness around. some brighter spells but then cloud will thicken into the afternoon, the wind will pick up and eventually
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will start to see some showery outbreaks of rain too. temperatures a little milder than they were yesterday but this is a cold front, and behind it is that very chilly arctic air sinking down from the north. and that will be with us throughout the day on tuesday. which is looking still rather cloudy, perhaps some brighter spells later, but just a bitter northerly wind blowing, and temperatures a lot lower than they have been of late. and of course with the added wind—chill, it will feel colder than this. keep an eye on the forecast over the next couple of days or so because there's lots of uncertainty regarding the middle of the week. that's it. i'll be back in an hour. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. monday morning, let's get a recap on the busy weekend. what
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monday morning, let's get a recap on the busy weekend.— monday morning, let's get a recap on - the busy weekend._ who the busy weekend. what happened? who knows, that the busy weekend. what happened? who knows. that is — the busy weekend. what happened? who knows, that is the _ the busy weekend. what happened? who knows, that is the question. _ the busy weekend. what happened? who knows, that is the question. they - knows, that is the question. they cannot believe _ knows, that is the question. they cannot believe it _ knows, that is the question. they cannot believe it either! - knows, that is the question. they cannot believe it either! juergen l cannot believe it either! juergen klo i i cannot believe it either! juergen klopp understandably _ cannot believe it either! juergen klopp understandably smiling. i cannot believe it either! juergen i klopp understandably smiling. you play your rivals, you get away with a win and you will take it, but for manchester united to win against liverpool 7—0. manchester united to win against liverpool 7-0-_ liverpool 7-0. normally it is juerien liverpool 7-0. normally it is juergen klopp _ liverpool 7-0. normally it is juergen klopp hugging - liverpool 7-0. normally it is juergen klopp hugging a - liverpool 7-0. normally it is - juergen klopp hugging a player, it's not even _ juergen klopp hugging a player, it's not even that, he is being hugged because _ not even that, he is being hugged because he is so shocked! yes, i'm sure that is — because he is so shocked! yes, i'm sure that is still _ because he is so shocked! yes, i'm sure that is still going _ because he is so shocked! yes, i'm sure that is still going on _ because he is so shocked! yes, i'm sure that is still going on this - sure that is still going on this morning! once in a while there is a result that stops you in your tracks. and this was certainly it. it will take a while for united fans to digest. for liverpool, a special afternoon, a moment for the fans to say i was there, and one that says, liverpool are back. joe lynskey reports. this was a result you had to see to believe. in all the games between them, there's never been one quite like this. for united, it was brutal, for liverpool, it was a record. and yet for 43 minutes it had been in the balance. gakpo's shot is in. brilliantly finished. injanuary, cody gakpo
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signed for liverpool when he might havejoined united. now that choice had changed the game. half time, 1—0, and it would get better quickly. 90 seconds from the restart, darwin nunez made it two. what had been a tight match was now all liverpool's. and it's clipped in by gakpo. gakpo lofted in his second, his team kept on rising. when it falls to mo salah in this match, it feels inevitable. he's now scored against united in five games in a row, this time as part of a collection. another nunez header, another goal. salah then was back to make it six. and there was still time. salah plays it through. it was behind firmino, but he's found a way to score their most magnificent seven. they'd not beaten united by this margin before, and these games can change a season. liverpool now have the top four in sight. united's title hopes are over.
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it's unprofessional. this is unacceptable and we let the fans down and i'm really disappointed and angry about it. it sounds like a day from another season, like, it doesn't fit really in this season so far. so even better it feels in the moment because it's so incredibly important for us. we need results. we need results, we need performances. and tonight we got both. manchester united have lost 7—0 before, but that was in the 1930s. this kind of scoreline comes round once in a lifetime. joe lynskey, bbc news. huge entertainment for the neutral. everton and nottingham forest wasn't bad either. although no chance of topping seven, 2—2 this finished, brennanjohnson enhancing his growing reputation with both forest goals, as everton missed the chance to climb out of the relgation zone. celtic are nine points clear at the top of the scottish premiership again after beating st mirren 5—1. they trailed 1—0 at the break but made their extra man
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count in the second half. substitute liel abada one of five different scorers as they made it a very comfortable afternoon. it was a result which arsenal hope will establish themselves as the leading side in women's football once again. four years since they last lifted a trophy, they were 3—1winners against chelsea here to lift the league cup. for a long time they were the dominant force, their managerjonas eidevall says this victory will give them the belief they can get back their again. get back there again. it's no wonder she is the most exciting british track star in a generation. where keeley hodgkinson goes, most tend to follow, some distnace behind. some distance behind. the olympic and world silver medallist taking victory indoor championships. here in the 800 metres at the european indoor championships. and it was an emotional win too, dedicating her victory to one of her former coaches who died last week. and it was golden double for gb, team captainjazmin sawyers winning the long jump. her mark of seven metres a world
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leading distance this year. and as the reality of what she's done sank in, she could hardly believe it. that is her first major title. a huge jump. talking of winning things, is anyone going to beat max verstappen to the driver's title in formula one this season? the red bull driver won the opening race in bahrain after starting from pole. mercedes driver lewis hamilton predicting the gap is already too big to make up, despite a full 22 races lying ahead. he finished fifth, verstappen taking the chequered flag 12 seconds ahead of his teamamte sergio perez, fernando alonso was third. potential procession, may be, for max verstappen because mike could well be. asylum seekers who cross the channel on small boats will be removed from britain and banned from returning or claiming citizenship.
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that's what the government is planning to announce this week. we can speak now to the science and technology secretary michelle donelan. good morning, iam good morning, i am actually going to start about talking to you about what you want to talk about, the announcement you are in bristol to make today as part of the government's latest technology news, what is it? , government's latest technology news, whatisit? ~~, ., government's latest technology news, whatisit? , ., ., what is it? basically, today we are settini what is it? basically, today we are setting out — what is it? basically, today we are setting out that _ what is it? basically, today we are setting out that this _ what is it? basically, today we are setting out that this is _ what is it? basically, today we are setting out that this is a _ setting out that this is a government that that is taking action in the here and now with £370 million to rocket based science and technology but we are also planning for the future and laying out a framework, a science and technology framework, a science and technology framework to get a position of being a science and technology super power by 2030. and we are relentlessly focused on the because what the outcomes of all of this mean? they mean better health care for you and me, our children, grandchildren, cleaner, greener transport, me, our children, grandchildren, cleaner, greenertransport, it means we can be tackling things like
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climate change, reducing our energy bills in the future, that we can be proactive as well as reactive and we already know that we have a booming tech sector, we are one of the only three countries in the world to have a tech sector which is valued at over $1 trillion, that happened just last year. we are not complacent, we want to continue to drive investment notjust by want to continue to drive investment not just by the want to continue to drive investment notjust by the government but also private investment. we want to ensure that our researchers are equipped with the best equipment and labs, so we are announcing 50 million going into labs today. this is a government which is really determined to enable people to have better paid jobs and ensure that they are based here in the uk. n they are based here in the uk. i mentioned at the start of this interview the news that asylum seekers who cross the channel on small boats are going to be removed from britain and banned for returning and claiming citizenship, what you make of these proposals, do you agree with them? we what you make of these proposals, do you agree with them?— what you make of these proposals, do you agree with them? we haven't seen the exact proposals _ you agree with them? we haven't seen the exact proposals at _ you agree with them? we haven't seen the exact proposals at the _ you agree with them? we haven't seen the exact proposals at the moment - the exact proposals at the moment but what we are saying is that this
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is a key priority for the prime minister and the government, one of the five top pledges to the general public, that we will stop the boats. we have id taken action in this area under this prime minister including the record deal with the french government, the deal with the maignan government, the increase in the number of people to ensure we can process cases —— they deal with the albanian government. this week we are bringing through legislation which is based on the principle that if people are travelling here through illegal routes they should not be allowed to stay which i think it is common sense and right and the correct approach that the government is really tackling one of the key things which comes up on the doorstep and is coming up from my constituents and around the country. you say the government is tackling this issue but we are seeing record numbers of migrants, even after the rwanda scheme was announced, thousands have crossed the channel. wes streeting in the last hour said the government simply need to get a
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grip and tackle things like the speed of decision—making because when asylum seekers get here they are waiting too long for a decision. i will try that again, i know we have had a couple of issues. i i will try that again, i know we have had a couple of issues. i think i have have had a couple of issues. i think i have lost — have had a couple of issues. i think i have lost you. _ have had a couple of issues. i think i have lost you, no, _ have had a couple of issues. i think i have lost you, no, you _ have had a couple of issues. i think i have lost you, no, you are - have had a couple of issues. i think i have lost you, no, you are back. i i have lost you, no, you are back. you are saying the government is tackling this issue head—on but the weather is —— wes streeting saying the government needs to get a grip because we have record numbers of migrants coming across, so you have had plenty of time to tackle it and it hasn't worked? louie had plenty of time to tackle it and it hasn't worked?— had plenty of time to tackle it and it hasn't worked? we have identified the problem. _ it hasn't worked? we have identified the problem. you — it hasn't worked? we have identified the problem, you are _ it hasn't worked? we have identified the problem, you are quite - it hasn't worked? we have identified the problem, you are quite right- it hasn't worked? we have identified the problem, you are quite right in i the problem, you are quite right in saying that, we have got 45,000 people who travelled here illegally last year. a few years ago there was only 300. that's why we are coming forward with additional legislation so whilst wes streeting might say the government needs to get a grip i would argue we are getting a grip, that's the very point of a bringing
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forward this legislation and saying it isn't ok if you travel here illegally, mainly these people have travelled across a number of safe countries before they make the journey to come to here on the small boats. the majority of these people do not necessarily need to claim asylum, a lot of them are economic migrants. it is important that the government tackles it head on which is why we are bringing forward legislation and detail will be coming over the next few days which is why the prime minister has been clear this is a top priority from the government. it clear this is a top priority from the government.— clear this is a top priority from the government. if you are not travelling _ the government. if you are not travelling from _ the government. if you are not travelling from ukraine, - the government. if you are not - travelling from ukraine, afghanistan and hong kong, what is the legal route into this country? i and hong kong, what is the legal route into this country?— and hong kong, what is the legal route into this country? i think the fiiures route into this country? i think the figures are — route into this country? i think the figures are around _ route into this country? i think the figures are around 480,000 - route into this country? i think the l figures are around 480,000 people have managed to secure asylum between 2015 and to date via those safe routes. we have been clear as a government we have been opening up more safe routes. first of all we
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need to tackle the illegal routes which is what we are doing this week. if which is what we are doing this week. , ., ., ., which is what we are doing this week. ., ., ., , week. if you are for example lranians. _ week. if you are for example iranians, fearing _ week. if you are for example | iranians, fearing persecution, week. if you are for example - iranians, fearing persecution, what is the legal route to come to the country? b5 is the legal route to come to the count ? �* , �* is the legal route to come to the count ? n�* is the legal route to come to the count tn , country? as i've said, we will be oiienin country? as i've said, we will be opening up _ country? as i've said, we will be opening up more _ country? as i've said, we will be opening up more safe _ country? as i've said, we will be opening up more safe routes, i country? as i've said, we will be | opening up more safe routes, we country? as i've said, we will be - opening up more safe routes, we have taken... ~ . pi opening up more safe routes, we have taken- - -_ we - opening up more safe routes, we have taken. . ._ we have - taken... where are they? we have taken... where are they? we have taken 480,000 — taken... where are they? we have taken 480,000 since _ taken... where are they? we have taken 480,000 since 2015, - taken... where are they? we have taken 480,000 since 2015, we - taken... where are they? we have i taken 480,000 since 2015, we have a record on this of protecting people in cases of need. we can't take everybody, that is a basic principle here. if we look at what we are tackling this week, we are tackling people coming here illegally. as i said before, many of those people have travelled through a number of safe countries before they make the journey to the uk. that's not ok. we have got to close down that route. notjust have got to close down that route. not just for have got to close down that route. notjust for the have got to close down that route. not just for the interests have got to close down that route. notjust for the interests of british citizens but the interests of those people who make that very dangerous route and criminal gangs are exploiting them doing there. forgive me, i'm struggling to hear the answer to this question, what is
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the answer to this question, what is the legal route if you are iranians, fearing persecution want to come to this country? i’m fearing persecution want to come to this country?— this country? i'm not going to get into the specifics _ this country? i'm not going to get into the specifics of _ this country? i'm not going to get into the specifics of country i into the specifics of country access. what i have said is that there are safe routes available. it there are safe routes available. if you can't answer it, how does someone who desperately needs help answer it? ., ., ~i ~i someone who desperately needs help answer it? ., ., ,, ,, ., ., answer it? look, i think that that is irossl answer it? look, i think that that is grossly unfair, _ answer it? look, i think that that is grossly unfair, and _ answer it? look, i think that that is grossly unfair, and not - answer it? look, i think that that is grossly unfair, and not the i is grossly unfair, and not the immigration minister. and the science and technology and innovation secretary of state. that isn't the point here. the point is we are going to open up other safe routes as i have said various times today. we do need to tackle illegal immigration. those boats are not filled with people coming from countries that desperately need help. many times they are filled with people who are actually economic migrants. and they have been exploited by criminal gangs who take their money on a very perilous
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journey. that's something we have got to stop and get a grip of, that's what we are doing this week. so you don't know? i that's what we are doing this week. so you don't know?— so you don't know? i didn't say i don't know. _ so you don't know? i didn't say i don't know. i— so you don't know? i didn't say i don't know, i said... _ so you don't know? i didn't say i don't know, i said... so - so you don't know? i didn't say i don't know, i said... so tell- so you don't know? i didn't say i don't know, i said... so tell me, then. don't know, i said... so tell me, then- l'm _ don't know, i said... so tell me, then- l'm not— don't know, i said... so tell me, then. i'm not here _ don't know, i said... so tell me, then. i'm not here as— don't know, i said... so tell me, then. i'm not here as an - don't know, i said... so tell me, i then. i'm not here as an immigration la er to then. i'm not here as an immigration lawyer to go — then. i'm not here as an immigration lawyer to go through _ then. i'm not here as an immigration lawyer to go through specific- then. i'm not here as an immigration lawyer to go through specific case i lawyer to go through specific case by case processes that an individual could follow. what i'm telling you is the government is doing this week in terms of legislation to make good on one of the prime minister's five key priority pledges to the british nation. it shows we are a government dealing with the problems at hand, coming forward with that bill. we have already taken measures, one of the points you made before is about the points you made before is about the backlog, getting through that process it quicker, we have added more casework offices and enforcement officers, we are tackling this in a variety of ways. that's what the government is about delivering. rishi sunak�*s proposal will involve detaining hundreds of
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thousands of people, where are you planning to put them? the rand —— at the rwanda scheme could take hundreds but not thousands, where would these people go? the hundreds but not thousands, where would these people go?— would these people go? the details ofthe would these people go? the details of the scheme _ would these people go? the details of the scheme will _ would these people go? the details of the scheme will be _ would these people go? the details of the scheme will be out _ would these people go? the details of the scheme will be out in - would these people go? the details of the scheme will be out in terms | of the scheme will be out in terms of the scheme will be out in terms of the scheme will be out in terms of the legislation in the coming days. you will get mill information in a few more days.— days. you will get mill information in a few more days. finally, a story on the front — in a few more days. finally, a story on the front page _ in a few more days. finally, a story on the front page of _ in a few more days. finally, a story on the front page of the _ in a few more days. finally, a story on the front page of the times, i in a few more days. finally, a storyj on the front page of the times, i'm guessing you will have seen the front pages of the paper, former prime minister borisjohnson who is nominating his father for a knighthood. what do you make of that? ~ ., ., knighthood. what do you make of that? . ., ., , ., y knighthood. what do you make of that? ., ., , , that? well, i read that story, it is speculation. _ that? well, i read that story, it is speculation. of— that? well, i read that story, it is speculation, of course, _ that? well, i read that story, it is speculation, of course, at - that? well, i read that story, it is speculation, of course, at this i speculation, of course, at this moment in time so we will have to see if it is true or not. it moment in time so we will have to see if it is true or not. iii it moment in time so we will have to see if it is true or not.— see if it is true or not. if it is true, see if it is true or not. if it is true. what — see if it is true or not. if it is true, what do _ see if it is true or not. if it is true, what do you _ see if it is true or not. if it is true, what do you make i see if it is true or not. if it is true, what do you make of l see if it is true or not. if it is i true, what do you make of it? see if it is true or not. if it is - true, what do you make of it? there is a process — true, what do you make of it? there is a process in _ true, what do you make of it? there is a process in place _ true, what do you make of it? there is a process in place for— true, what do you make of it? there is a process in place for prime i is a process in place for prime ministers to nominate people for
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peerages, for honorary, titles and awards, that's always been the case in political parties of every colour. let's wait and see whether this story is true before we start speculating and talking about ifs, may bes and pats. the speculating and talking about ifs, may bes and pats.— may bes and pats. the times suggested — may bes and pats. the times suggested when _ may bes and pats. the times suggested when theresa i may bes and pats. the times| suggested when theresa may may bes and pats. the times i suggested when theresa may put in her resignation honours, it was 60 people, david cameron, 62, boris johnson has 100 at the moment who have been put forward for awards. any fort liz truss yet? hat have been put forward for awards. any fort liz truss yet?— any fort liz truss yet? not sure about that! _ any fort liz truss yet? not sure about that! you _ any fort liz truss yet? not sure about that! you are _ any fort liz truss yet? not sure about that! you are watching i about that! you are watching breakfast, but we should be calling ourselves brrrrreakfast because it is really chilly this week! lien; is really chilly this week! very iood, is really chilly this week! very good. jon! — there has been some snow in the
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shetlands, the met office has some weather warnings for snow and ice, up weather warnings for snow and ice, up to 20 centimetres in higher ground in the highlands, five to ten centimetres across higher ground in north—east england but some will get down to lower levels and it could be disruptive. all coming in behind a weather front disruptive. all coming in behind a weatherfront sinking disruptive. all coming in behind a weather front sinking south, with cloud and patchy rain. the arctic air is feeding in wintry showers and we will continue with them on and off through the day. the weather front is moving through northern ireland, wales and northern england, continuing to journey southwards, a lot of cloud, any early sunshine is eradicated and the cold air is digging in behind it. wintry showers across scotland and temperatures 1 degrees in lerwick but milder towards plymouth. this evening and overnight, the weather front continues to journey south and the cold air will continue to filter south behind it. some parts of the
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highlands could get down to —8 and we're starting with a widespread frost and the of untreated surfaces that are at risk of ice on untreated surfaces. we have some snow coming in on the areas on the chilly wind, a few showers inland. dry weather in the south, a bit of sunshine early on but these are the temperatures. one to 5 degrees, widely. when you are adding on the strength of the wind, it will feel some 04 many parts of the country. it will feel like —5 in aberdeen. overnight, tuesdayis like —5 in aberdeen. overnight, tuesday is going to be even colder, we could have a low of —10 in the highlands, —5 and around birmingham. we are starting with the risk of ice where we have had fallen snow, and a widespread frost. then we run into publications and a bit of uncertainty with the weather
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forecast. arctic air is in place and atlantic air is trying to come in from the south. that is milder. depending on weather fronts and up and low pressure coming in from the atlantic will depend on when we get snow. a lot of uncertainty in the forecast but we think we will see some snow across southern england before it reverts back to rain later, and then share the snow overnight into the south—west. where it is pushed further north it is dry and bright but itjust needs the milder air to push a bit more north and it could completely change the distribution of the snow. so keep watching the forecast. it all looks rather unpredictable, thank you, carol. as children are heading back to school this morning, one group of ten—year—old friends have a fresh new 'look�* — they've all shaved their heads.
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it's not a fashion statement but a gesture of support for their mate, oliver — who lost his hair while being treated for a brain tumour. this is oliver's army arriving on stage for a school assembly with a difference. the difference being that a group of heads are about to be shaved by oliver and a team of local hairdressers. how are you feeling ahead of all this doing for you this morning? it's nice to know that my friends at school are supporting me. what's weird is before i had my hairfall out, my hair was longer than any of these. now that these guys are getting theirs shaved, i'm going to be the only one with hair. the boys themselves came up with the plan, including oliver's twin brother, george. i was, of course, devastated when i heard the news that he had cancer, and instantly ijust knew that i had to do something to help. and now we're here. what do you think of your brother doing this for you? i think he has just helped me through this so much. and so before an enthusiastic audience, it was haircut time. cheering
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reuben, you've gone bald here, straight down the middle, how does that feel? it's crazy. yeah. i want to know what i look like. you look so weird, you do! it's gone. you look almost unrecognisable right now. i know. are you the same child that was here a few minutes ago? yeah, but i feel like i went a bit too far. it's been a devastating time for all of us, but events like this really do make a difference. they describe themselves as a wall of friends around oliver. theyjust want to protect him. they want to look after him. and they want to do everything they can to just help us get through this. is it really that bad? yes, it is! the children have just really thought about how it must feel
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for oliver at the moment. we've got such amazing examples of youngsters today and what they're able to achieve. no head shaving for you, but a lovely pink do. thank you very much. i got up very early to do this. after ten minutes or so, the cuts were complete. i honestlyjust don't know what to say. they've supported me through all of this and i think they were just brave to do it. so you all feeling good now, boys? yep, yep. bit cold on my head, but...! and how do you think they look now? like me. and that's good, isn't it? yeah! unless, of course, parents take the wrong children home after school! with that, it was time to reveal the latest oliver's army fundraising total, which is now past £17,000. ian haslam, bbc news.
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what proper friends. aren't they brilliant? well done, lads, good luck, oliver! they are going to feel the cold but all of them are brilliant. george webster is used to being a trailblazer. two years ago he became the first regular cbeebies presenter to have down's syndrome. now he's written a children's book, co—authored by the cbeebies producer who first invited george for an audition. before we meet both of them, let's take a quick look at george's journey so far. just a little while ago, my wishes came true. i became a presenter on cbeebies and off i flew! hello, i'm your new friend george. do you like movies? brilliant! we are about to make one. shall we add some oats for extra energy? oh, yeah, we can put in the milk too. oh, course, dodge! what's around the corner? we'll never know. but these dancing shoes are made for dancing, so off we go!
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whoo! it's so much fun to groove with george. show us some more, george! i cannot believe i'm here. # we are happy to meet you, glad to see your face # come on in, let the fun begin, because our place is your place! george and his co—author claire taylorjoin us now. good morning. author! how is that? it's really fun. it'sjust, we are proud of the book. it’s it's really fun. it's 'ust, we are proud of the book.i proud of the book. it's an incredible _ proud of the book. it's an incredible feeling - proud of the book. it's an incredible feeling to i proud of the book. it's an incredible feeling to have j proud of the book. it's an i incredible feeling to have it out there. — incredible feeling to have it out there, isn't it, george?- there, isn't it, george? yeah, incredible. _ there, isn't it, george? yeah, incredible. when _ there, isn't it, george? yeah, incredible. when you - there, isn't it, george? yeah, incredible. when you have i there, isn't it, george? yeah, incredible. when you have it i there, isn't it, george? yeah,| incredible. when you have it in there, isn't it, george? yeah, i incredible. when you have it in your hand and you _ incredible. when you have it in your hand and you think, _ incredible. when you have it in your hand and you think, i _ incredible. when you have it in your hand and you think, i wrote - incredible. when you have it in your hand and you think, i wrote that, i hand and you think, i wrote that, and loads of people are going to read it, what sort of feelings you have? , , ., , .,
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have? just proud feelings, and really happy _ have? just proud feelings, and really happy feelings _ have? just proud feelings, and really happy feelings of - have? just proud feelings, and i really happy feelings of memories, childhood memories. and i hope this will inspire lots of kids and their parents. will inspire lots of kids and their iarents. ., ., , ., parents. you have been reading the story aloud — parents. you have been reading the story aloud to _ parents. you have been reading the story aloud to people, _ parents. you have been reading the story aloud to people, what - parents. you have been reading the story aloud to people, what is i parents. you have been reading the story aloud to people, what is the i story aloud to people, what is the reaction? .. ., story aloud to people, what is the reaction? ., ., , , reaction? the reaction has been brilliant, everyone _ reaction? the reaction has been brilliant, everyone has- reaction? the reaction has been brilliant, everyone has been i reaction? the reaction has been i brilliant, everyone has been loving the book. and also, i'm glad to hear all of these bullion responses to the book. , ., the book. tell us about the book itself, where _ the book. tell us about the book itself, where did _ the book. tell us about the book itself, where did it _ the book. tell us about the book itself, where did it come - the book. tell us about the book itself, where did it come from i the book. tell us about the book. itself, where did it come from and what is the idea? it itself, where did it come from and what is the idea?— what is the idea? it started off as a ioem, what is the idea? it started off as a poem. claire — what is the idea? it started off as a poem, claire roach, _ what is the idea? it started off as a poem, claire roach, for- what is the idea? it started off as a poem, claire roach, for when i | what is the idea? it started off as i a poem, claire roach, for when i was launched on cbeebies. —— that claire wrote. i know it is called this is me. it's introducing me to cbeebies. and then from that, me and mum and dad and clare were having a discussion about making it into a book. so we were approached by different publishers and we chose
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scholastic, they were wonderful. and then from that, we wrote some rough memories. bhd then from that, we wrote some rough memories. �* then from that, we wrote some rough memories. . .., then from that, we wrote some rough memories. . .. ., then from that, we wrote some rough memories. . ., ., memories. and it came into colour with our brilliant _ memories. and it came into colour with our brilliant illustrator - memories. and it came into colour with our brilliant illustrator tim i with our brilliant illustrator tim budge — with our brilliant illustrator tim budge and. we with our brilliant illustrator tim ltudge and-— with our brilliant illustrator tim budie and. . ., ., ., budge and. we have got some of the iictures budge and. we have got some of the pictures behind _ budge and. we have got some of the pictures behind you, _ budge and. we have got some of the pictures behind you, this _ budge and. we have got some of the pictures behind you, this is - budge and. we have got some of the pictures behind you, this is me, i pictures behind you, this is me, thatis pictures behind you, this is me, that is you! it has all come together. that is you! it has all come together-— that is you! it has all come toiether. �*, ., ., ., together. it's all about me growing u i together. it's all about me growing u- with together. it's all about me growing up with my — together. it's all about me growing up with my family _ together. it's all about me growing up with my family and _ together. it's all about me growing up with my family and friends, i together. it's all about me growing up with my family and friends, and | up with my family and friends, and also celebrating differences. differences are not necessarily scary or bad. it can be a good thing. everyone has our own talents, we are all unique and we all have our own glow inside a. leslie we are all unique and we all have our own glow inside a.— we are all unique and we all have our own glow inside a. we are going to talk a little _ our own glow inside a. we are going to talk a little bit _ our own glow inside a. we are going to talk a little bit about _ our own glow inside a. we are going to talk a little bit about you - our own glow inside a. we are going to talk a little bit about you in i to talk a little bit about you in front of you, george, apologies! tell us about george? he front of you, george, apologies! tell us about george?— tell us about george? he is incredible, _ tell us about george? he is incredible, we _ tell us about george? he is incredible, we spotted i tell us about george? he is incredible, we spotted him | tell us about george? he is l incredible, we spotted him on tell us about george? he is i incredible, we spotted him on a tell us about george? he is - incredible, we spotted him on a bbc bitesize _ incredible, we spotted him on a bbc bitesize video about busting the
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myth _ bitesize video about busting the myth of— bitesize video about busting the myth of down syndrome and it popped up myth of down syndrome and it popped up on _ myth of down syndrome and it popped up on nry— myth of down syndrome and it popped up on my phone and i saw his sparkly eyes, _ up on my phone and i saw his sparkly eyes, effervescent personality, and this connection to the camera. and we brought— this connection to the camera. and we brought you went for a screen testi _ we brought you went for a screen test. didn't— we brought you went for a screen test, didn't we? at cbeebies. and the rest _ test, didn't we? at cbeebies. and the rest is — test, didn't we? at cbeebies. and the rest is history. and you have achieved — the rest is history. and you have achieved the world, a bafta within a yeari _ achieved the world, a bafta within a year. as— achieved the world, a bafta within a year, as best presenter, which is phenomenal. strictly! and now the book _ phenomenal. strictly! and now the book so _ phenomenal. strictly! and now the book. so george isjust fantastic. are you _ book. so george isjust fantastic. are you loving life? | book. so george is 'ust fantastic. are you loving life?— are you loving life? i absolutely love my life- — are you loving life? i absolutely love my life. i _ are you loving life? i absolutely love my life. i really _ are you loving life? i absolutely love my life. i really do. - are you loving life? i absolutely love my life. i really do. i- are you loving life? i absolutely love my life. i really do. ithink| love my life. i really do. ithink we can tell- — love my life. i really do. ithink we can tell. whenever - love my life. i really do. ithink we can tell. whenever i - love my life. i really do. ithink we can tell. whenever i see i love my life. i really do. ithink we can tell. whenever i see on| love my life. i really do. i think- we can tell. whenever i see on the telly, your enthusiasm, your insight on everything, look at you here, dancing around. you are having the time of your life.— dancing around. you are having the time of your life.- you - dancing around. you are having the time of your life. yeah. you have iot lots time of your life. yeah. you have got lots of _ time of your life. yeah. you have got lots of fans _ time of your life. yeah. you have got lots of fans now, _ time of your life. yeah. you have got lots of fans now, how - time of your life. yeah. you have got lots of fans now, how has i time of your life. yeah. you have| got lots of fans now, how has life changed for you? it’s got lots of fans now, how has life changed for you?— got lots of fans now, how has life changed for you? it's 'ust brilliant to have rots * changed for you? it's 'ust brilliant to have lots of i changed for you? it's 'ust brilliant to have lots of role i changed for you? it'sjust brilliant
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to have lots of role models. i changed for you? it'sjust brilliant to have lots of role models. with | to have lots of role models. with kids with all abilities. it important to everyone to have a royal medal —— role model in their life. we can all dream big, and it's kids seeing me achieving my dreams which will inspire them to achieve their dreams and their future. so now you are the role model. their dreams and their future. so i now you are the role model. yeah. what sort of _ now you are the role model. yeah. what sort of response _ now you are the role model. yeah. what sort of response has - now you are the role model. yeah. what sort of response has there i now you are the role model. yeah. i what sort of response has there been to george as a presenter? we know how loved he is, but beyond that, the bigger response? j how loved he is, but beyond that, the bigger response?— how loved he is, but beyond that, the bigger response? i think what's brilliant, cbeebies _ the bigger response? i think what's brilliant, cbeebies has _ the bigger response? i think what's brilliant, cbeebies has the - the bigger response? i think what's brilliant, cbeebies has the motto, l brilliant, cbeebies has the motto, everyone — brilliant, cbeebies has the motto, everyone is welcome. to bring george to the _ everyone is welcome. to bring george to the channel and show that everyone _ to the channel and show that everyone is absolutely welcome, as george _ everyone is absolutely welcome, as george says, he is the most credible role n1odel~— george says, he is the most credible role model. not only for the children— role model. not only for the children watching our channel, but also the _ children watching our channel, but also the grown—ups as well, just make _ also the grown—ups as well, just make sure — also the grown—ups as well, just make sure that everyone is accepting of differences and including people like george and friends along the way _ like george and friends along the way and — like george and friends along the way. and to know how this book out there _ way. and to know how this book out
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there to _ way. and to know how this book out there to spread the message further isjust— there to spread the message further isjust a _ there to spread the message further isjust a scam isn't it, george? the reaction _ isjust a scam isn't it, george? the reaction is — isjust a scam isn't it, george? the reaction is lovely, —— it isjust an acei _ reaction is lovely, —— it isjust an ace. isn't — reaction is lovely, —— it isjust an ace. isn't it. _ reaction is lovely, —— it isjust an ace, isn't it, george? we have had people _ ace, isn't it, george? we have had people with — ace, isn't it, george? we have had people with down syndrome, without, all reading _ people with down syndrome, without, all reading the book, that's what it's about, — all reading the book, that's what it's about, including everyone. everyone. _ it's about, including everyone. everyone, yes. it's about, including everyone. everyone. yes-— it's about, including everyone. everyone, yes. it's about, including everyone. eve one, es. ., i . ., everyone, yes. what difference would it have made — everyone, yes. what difference would it have made to _ everyone, yes. what difference would it have made to you _ everyone, yes. what difference would it have made to you as _ everyone, yes. what difference would it have made to you as a _ everyone, yes. what difference would it have made to you as a small - everyone, yes. what difference would it have made to you as a small child i it have made to you as a small child if there had been a book you have that would have been able to read when you were young?— that would have been able to read when you were young? there wasn't an one when you were young? there wasn't anyone with — when you were young? there wasn't anyone with down _ when you were young? there wasn't anyone with down syndrome - when you were young? there wasn't anyone with down syndrome in i when you were young? there wasn't anyone with down syndrome in a - when you were young? there wasn't i anyone with down syndrome in a book when i was growing up when i was younger. and on tv as well. and that's why i wanted to write this book. just to celebrate the difference. i book. just to celebrate the difference.— book. just to celebrate the difference. ~ ., , ., ., ., difference. i know, george, one of the challenging — difference. i know, george, one of the challenging things _ difference. i know, george, one of the challenging things when - difference. i know, george, one of the challenging things when you i difference. i know, george, one of. the challenging things when you work for cbbc is you have to handle hacker the dog. i have struggled in the past with him. how on earth do you manage hacker? fin the past with him. how on earth do you manage hacker?— the past with him. how on earth do you manage hacker? on cbeebies, we have dodge- — you manage hacker? on cbeebies, we have dodge- 0h. _ you manage hacker? on cbeebies, we
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have dodge. oh, that's _ you manage hacker? on cbeebies, we have dodge. oh, that's dodge, - you manage hacker? on cbeebies, we have dodge. oh, that's dodge, not- have dodge. oh, that's dodge, not hacker! is he _ have dodge. oh, that's dodge, not hacker! is he less _ have dodge. oh, that's dodge, not hacker! is he less naughty? - have dodge. oh, that's dodge, not hacker! is he less naughty? he - have dodge. oh, that's dodge, not hacker! is he less naughty? he is i have dodge. oh, that's dodge, not| hacker! is he less naughty? he is a sweeter version _ hacker! is he less naughty? he is a sweeter version of _ hacker! is he less naughty? he is a sweeter version of hacker. - hacker! is he less naughty? he is a sweeter version of hacker. but - hacker! is he less naughty? he is a | sweeter version of hacker. but they look very similar! _ sweeter version of hacker. but they look very similar! he _ sweeter version of hacker. but they look very similar! he is _ sweeter version of hacker. but they look very similar! he is still - sweeter version of hacker. but they look very similar! he is still very - look very similar! he is still very chee , look very similar! he is still very cheeky. he _ look very similar! he is still very cheeky. he pays _ look very similar! he is still very cheeky. he pays a _ look very similar! he is still very cheeky, he pays a lot _ look very similar! he is still very cheeky, he pays a lot of - look very similar! he is still very cheeky, he pays a lot of tricks . look very similar! he is still very| cheeky, he pays a lot of tricks on me! i cheeky, he pays a lot of tricks on me! . cheeky, he pays a lot of tricks on me! , ,. , cheeky, he pays a lot of tricks on me! , , ~' , cheeky, he pays a lot of tricks on me! , ~' ., me! i will 'ust say, keep away from hacker! me! i willjust say, keep away from hacker! you _ me! i willjust say, keep away from hacker! you still _ me! i willjust say, keep away from hacker! you still see _ me! i willjust say, keep away from hacker! you still see him _ me! i willjust say, keep away from hacker! you still see him in - me! i willjust say, keep away from hacker! you still see him in the - hacker! you still see him in the corridors! _ hacker! you still see him in the corridors! you _ hacker! you still see him in the corridors! you have _ hacker! you still see him in the corridors! you have worked - hacker! you still see him in the| corridors! you have worked with hacker! you still see him in the - corridors! you have worked with him as well. corridors! you have worked with him as well- george _ corridors! you have worked with him as well. george can _ corridors! you have worked with him as well. george can deal _ corridors! you have worked with him as well. george can deal with - as well. george can deal with anyone _ as well. george can deal with an one. �* as well. george can deal with an one. ~ ,, as well. george can deal with anone. ,,,, .y anyone. and so cbeebies, strictly, the book, what _ anyone. and so cbeebies, strictly, the book, what is _ anyone. and so cbeebies, strictly, the book, what is next? _ anyone. and so cbeebies, strictly, the book, what is next? i- anyone. and so cbeebies, strictly, the book, what is next? i have - the book, what is next? i have achieved a _ the book, what is next? i have achieved a lot _ the book, what is next? i have achieved a lot already! - the book, what is next? i have achieved a lot already! i - the book, what is next? i have achieved a lot already! i wouldl the book, what is next? i have - achieved a lot already! i would like to do lots, i have got some things coming up, some theatre work, and bbc radio leeds make a difference awards, i like to do lots of things, i would like to do more acting. more cbeebies! we have got some book festivals coming up. film. cbeebies! we have got some book festivals coming up.— festivals coming up. oh, my goodness! — festivals coming up. oh, my goodness! you _ festivals coming up. oh, my goodness! you are - festivals coming up. oh, my i goodness! you are everywhere!
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festivals coming up. oh, my - goodness! you are everywhere! he wants to be james bond, don't you? james _ wants to be james bond, don't you? james bond, doctor who, wants to be james bond, don't you? james bond, doctorwho, death wants to be james bond, don't you? james bond, doctor who, death in paradise, lots of things!— paradise, lots of things! there is no stopping _ paradise, lots of things! there is no stopping you! _ paradise, lots of things! there is no stopping you! good _ paradise, lots of things! there is no stopping you! good luck - paradise, lots of things! there is no stopping you! good luck with | paradise, lots of things! there is i no stopping you! good luck with the book, thank you for coming in. thank ou for book, thank you for coming in. thank you for having _ book, thank you for coming in. thank you for having us. _ george and claire's book is called "this is me!" stay with us, headlines coming up. good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and sally nugent. our headlines today —
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anyone crossing the channel in a small boat would be banned from ever returning to the uk, but refugee charities say the new government plans are unfair and unworkable. one of britain's most notorious and violent prisoners, charles bronson, makes his latest bid for freedom at a public parole hearing. caring for a loved one with dementia. we're hearing how families cope with such a cruel disease. nina will be sharing her own personal story. in sport, seventh heaven for liverpool. a day to remember for the fans, a moment to forget for manchester united in this record—equalling defeat. good morning. turning colder as we go through this week, with some snow on the forecast. today, a band of cloud, rain and drizzle moves south, and behind that cold air feeds in with
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increasing amounts of wintry showers today in the north of scotland. all the details later in the programme. good morning. it's monday the 6th of march. our main story — asylum seekers who cross the channel in small boats will be banned for life from returning to the uk or ever applying for british citizenship, under new laws expected to be announced by the government tomorrow. refugee groups say the proposals, which involve sending all small boat passengers to another country, such as rwanda, are unworkable. our political correspondent helen catt reports. small boats like these brought more than 16,000 migrants into the uk last year — an unfair and immoral trade, according to the prime minister, which he's personally pledged to stop. it is not cruel or unkind to want to break the stranglehold of criminal gangs, who trade in human misery and who exploit our system and laws. enough is enough.
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proposed new laws will be unveiled tomorrow to stop people who come to the uk through illegal routes from being able to claim asylum. instead, they will be detained and removed, according to the home secretary. the government will also announce tomorrow that once they are removed, they will be banned for life from the uk and barred from ever applying for british citizenship. legal challenges have stalled the government's flagship plan announced last summer to send asylum seekers to rwanda, and some have doubts about the new legislation. just seems that it's more pandering to public opinion, rather than providing a clear plan as to how things are going to work. it's not really workable in terms of the wording so far. so the devil will be in the detail. especially in relation to where it says we're going to remove people to rwanda or other countries. that's quite problematic because we don't have agreements to return people to other countries. the refugee council has claimed it would lead to tens of thousands
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of refugees who would have been granted asylum in the uk being locked up in detention. working with france to tackle crossings is also considered vital by the government. the prime minister is due to meet the french president, emmanuel macron, on friday. for his pledge to stop the boats, this could be a pivotal week. helen catt, bbc news. let's speak to our chief political correspondent nick eardley. nick, how important are these plans for rishi sunak? one of the five key pledges he has made to the electorate, and it is quite a bold promise, stop the small boats is what the government is saying. and i think when we get that legislation tomorrow, the argument the government will make is by telling people that they won't be eligible for asylum if they arrive on small boats, and that they will
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be deported from the country and refused entry in the future, that will the government will argue, dis— incentivise people from making the most perilous channeljourneys in the first place. i think it will come up against a lot of opposition, we had from the labour party on the programme earlier saying it was nothing more than a gimmick, there were no new ideas in this, refugee charities will say it means that genuine asylum seekers are treated like criminals, but we had about half an hour ago from michelle dornan, and her argument was that something essential was needed. have a listen to what she told breakfast. it isn't 0k a listen to what she told breakfast. it isn't ok if you travel here illegally _ it isn't ok if you travel here illegally. men with these people have travelled across a number of safe countries before they then make that journey to come to the uk and small_ that journey to come to the uk and small boats. we know that the majority — small boats. we know that the majority of those people as well do not necessarily need to be claiming asylum, _ not necessarily need to be claiming asylum, a _ not necessarily need to be claiming asylum, a lot of them are economic
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migrants _ asylum, a lot of them are economic migrants it— asylum, a lot of them are economic migrants. it is important that the government tackles this head on, which _ government tackles this head on, which is _ government tackles this head on, which is why we are bringing forward legislation — which is why we are bringing forward legislation. details will be out over— legislation. details will be out over the — legislation. details will be out over the next few days, and it is why the — over the next few days, and it is why the prime minister and home secretary— why the prime minister and home secretary have been very clear that this is— secretary have been very clear that this is a _ secretary have been very clear that this is a top— secretary have been very clear that this is a top priority for this government.— this is a top priority for this government. ., , ., , government. the details of this, jon. government. the details of this, jon, will government. the details of this, jon. will be _ government. the details of this, jon, will be really _ government. the details of this, jon, will be really important. - government. the details of this, jon, will be really important. isl jon, will be really important. is there much new it that gives politicians and the public a sense that the government has a plan to stop small boats crossings. i think it is highly likely if not inevitable that there will be legal challenges to this as well. but what you will hear from us over the next few days —— what you'll hear from the government over the next few daysis the government over the next few days is an insistence that it is this seriously and has a plan to crack down. this seriously and has a plan to crack down-— this seriously and has a plan to crack down. . ~ ., ., ., ~ crack down. ok, nick, for now, thank ou ve crack down. ok, nick, for now, thank you very much- _ police officers searching for five friends — who were reported missing after a night out in south wales — have found three of them dead, and two with serious injuries. the group had been missing since the early hours of saturday, when they were last seen in cardiff. gwent police say the car was recovered in the early hours
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of today, off the a48. the force has not revealed which of them have died. ambulance workers in england have called off strikes which were due to take place today and wednesday. the unite union will enter pay talks with ministers. two other ambulance workers' unions — unison and gmb — had already paused their walk—outs after what they said was a "huge shift" in the government's position. the notorious prisoner charles bronson will launch his latest bid for freedom at a public parole hearing which starts today. the 70—year—old, who now uses the name charles salvador, is one of the uk's longest serving prisoners and has a reputation for attacking staff and other inmates. in a channel 1! documentary which aired last week, he insisted he had reformed. a mural dedicated to the rugby league star and motor neurone disease campaigner rob burrow has been vandalised. the artwork, which was unveiled outside the leeds beckett university union building in 2020, has been splattered with brown liquid. rob's dad geoff described
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the vandals as "sick cowards." the makers of toblerone are planning to remove the matterhorn mountain peakfrom its packaging when some of the chocolate's production is moved from switzerland to slovakia. the image of the alpine peak has been used since 1970, but strict rules mean swiss national symbols cannot be used to promote milk—based products that are not made exclusively in switzerland. and we've had several message this morning, pointing out that there is a hidden bear within that famous matterhorn image — if you look carefully, it's rearing up on its hind legs and standing in profile. toblerones are currently made in bern, which is also known as the city of bears.
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somebody else is just method and said there is a hidden fish beneath the bear. —— somebody else hasjust messaged. is there? down at the bottom? i don't know. and then within the fish... bottom? i don't know. and then within the fish. . .— within the fish... no, stop! loads of other things _ within the fish... no, stop! loads of other things have _ within the fish... no, stop! loads of other things have come - within the fish... no, stop! loads of other things have come on - within the fish... no, stop! loads of other things have come on this morning about different logos we have seen every day, things we have never noticed. the only thing i am concerned about is whether or not the toblerone will taste the same. good morning, everybody, up to 20 centimetres of snow on higher ground today and tomorrow is what is forecast. low ground will see some of that as well, but not much, and across the north—east of england, five to ten centimetres is quite possible, particularly higher values on higher ground. as well as that, some ice to watch out for as well. you can see where we have got to be
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weather front, you can see where we have got to be weatherfront, it is you can see where we have got to be weather front, it is something south, and it is taking its cloud with it. some of us saw a little glimmer of two of sunshine, the cold air digging in, already has a in across the north of scotland, where we are seeing prolific wintry showers at the moment, we will continue with them on and off throughout the day interspersed with some sunshine. temperatures today one to about eight celsius, still in the milder air one to about eight celsius, still in the milderair in one to about eight celsius, still in the milder air in the south, but adding on the strength of the wind, it will feel more like —2 in aberdeen. this evening and overnight, a weather front continues to push down towards the south, the cold air continues to dig in behind it, and we will continue to see some wintry showers especially in areas exposed to that northern women. in sheltered glens, could fall as low as —8, the risk of ice. and
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tomorrow, some mist and fog to start the day. the time is 8.10. across the uk, almost a million people are living with some form of dementia. it's an illness which can impact your memory, your mood, and even your movement. it can also come at a huge financial and emotional cost for the loved ones around you. so, over the next few months, we're going to look at what it's like caring for someone with dementia, and what can be done to make things easier. we're going to start with someone who'll be familiar to you — our very own nina warhurst. nina's dad chris was diagnosed with dementia last year, and it was down to nina and her sisters amy and mel to try to make some sense of it all. we're going to speak
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to nina in a moment, but first this is her family's story. my dad is a funny man is how i'd sum him up. ever since being little, he could give a little side eye at somebody — a stranger that he would just know we'd all find funny and we would all collapse in laughter. and he can still do that, even after all these years. he's funny. that is probably a word that most people, his colleagues, his friends, his family would use for him — he's very funny. and he's charming, he's a very charming man. he can still very much make me laugh. we can still make him laugh. that wit and humour is still very much there. not sure we always know what we're laughing at or about, but the laughter is very much there. he was a really hard worker, and i think work was always very, very important to him. my dad is someone who has a very strict social conscience. he thinks a lot about doing the right thing, letting people down is his absolute worst nightmare. he knows me, he knows my sisters.
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if i walk into the room, he can see in my eyes, he'll say something like, "you look like you've been working too much, angel." or, "you must have had a good sleep last night," and he will be right. because he still knows me, gets me. and he just still has to give that little side—eye and i'll be in hysterics. so what year is that photo? that's the boy. who's that? georgie. george best. yeah. what do you remember about him? i remember him lifting the european cup. yeah. you were friends with him. oh, yeah. you used to go out with him. yeah. we used to go to old trafford to watch united play. yeah. and george best would be there, wouldn't he? watching as well. and he always still came and said hello, didn't he?
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oh, it's more than that. those were the days, eh? yeah. the thing that bonded me and my dad was i was the only girl who played football, for the school team, and in the league, and football became a huge part of our relationship, and was for 30 years. and now when i look back on it, i wonder whether i loved football that much or whether ijust loved having that time me and him. and he was so, so proud to have his little girl playing in a boys' league. when we knew the signs were coming in, it was so hard to get a diagnosis. and i don't know why. where do you start, do we speak to social services, do we speak to the gp? we spoke to all these people, and we weren't moving on. and we were like, "what do we do?" i remember literally screaming, "what do i do?"
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because nobody could help us, nobody could help us. this is what i don't understand about dementia. so we had an incredibly engaged and switched—on gp. his social care team were supportive and empathetic. when he ended up in emergency care, salford royal hospital was amazing. he had three daughters who were engaged and wanted to do the best by him and still we collectively felt like we were in freefall. i remember, i would go round in the day and make sure he had his morning medication and give him a hot lunch and then leave him a dinner to have in the evening and i would go round the next day the food would still be there and i'd say, "why haven't you eaten it, dad?" and he would say, "i didn't know who it was for," even though he lived alone. on another occasion he put a boxed pizza in the oven, on another occasion he left his house in the middle of the night, so you are worried about safety. and until you have a clear diagnosis, you can't necessarily get
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all the support that you need. so you're left as a carer thinking you're trying your best but that you're failing everywhere. he was living in manchester, and i was living in shrewsbury. and i had two very young girls. i had full—time work and a husband and to try and juggle all of that, it was near impossible. when i wasn't with him, i was thinking about him and it just takes over you completely. a really hard hit, and ifeel guilty now when i think about it, is that he was getting on my nerves and having to do all these practical things was getting me down and because of that stress, we stopped having nice times together. we stopped enjoying one another�*s company. and i feel like that last year when we had him at home,
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we won't get that back now. and that's really hard, and i feel guilty about that. yeah. i do feel really guilty about that. sorry. even then when you get the diagnosis, there is no clarity in the system about what happens next. if we compare it with something else, if you have a cancer diagnosis or liver failure or heart failure, i think the pathway is quite clear. you will be directed along that pathway to a specialist. let's call this what it is, this is brain failure. and let's bring the same territory to other parts of our health and body that are failing us, let's try and bring clarity to dementia diagnosis. # it's a dirty old town # dirty old town.# lovely.
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so it's been about a year now, hasn't it, since he moved in? because he's been there since, yeah, february 2022. and he's a lot more settled now. looking back to a year ago. yeah, absolutely. and i think, you know, that's because he's got the right care, isn't it? and we were absolutely doing our best. but now, all needs are being met, got professionals caring for him, and he looks a whole world of difference, doesn't he? so when we do see him now, we have a lovely time. we can be his daughters, go out for lunch, have coffee. i can do his dentist appointments and look after him and it makes all the difference to all of us. i feel really positive now about the future with my dad because his basic needs are being met. he's in a wonderful care home. he has regular visits with us. he's resting a lot. he's physically looking well.
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and i know we have great times ahead of us. we had a big party for his 80th birthday and he only managed an hour but it was a really special hour, and we've moved our expectations about what fun times with dad are. but there are plenty more of them to come. and dementia shouldn't be seen as this death sentence is just a tragedy with no good times to be had, because that's not true. we need to reconsider what dementia is and what living alongside dementia is. nina is with us this morning. he would love this, his mum and dad there, who also lived with dementia. it is really nice. i there, who also lived with dementia. it is really nice.— it is really nice. i guess the first auestion it is really nice. i guess the first question is. _ it is really nice. i guess the first question is, why _ it is really nice. i guess the first question is, why was _ it is really nice. i guess the first question is, why was it - it is really nice. i guess the first question is, why was it so - question is, why was it so important for you and your sisters to tell your dad's story? i for you and your sisters to tell your dad's story?— your dad's story? i think there's two reasons- — your dad's story? i think there's two reasons. the _ your dad's story? i think there's two reasons. the first _ your dad's story? i think there's two reasons. the first is - your dad's story? i think there's two reasons. the first is that i your dad's story? i think there's| two reasons. the first is that we were surprised at how hard it was.
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his parents had dementia, he was prepared for it, he expected it, so his house was in order, his paperwork and we thought that transition would be as smooth as it could possibly be. but first of all, the diagnosis, so from the early signs that something was wrong, it is a protracted process, because they are monitoring somebody�*s deterioration of a set period of time, and if they dropped considerably in that time, it is stressful for the considerably in that time, it is stressfulfor the family considerably in that time, it is stressful for the family and it becomes quite dangerous. that was really hard, but on top of that, you're ticking another adult�*s life, you're ticking another adult�*s life, you're taking over the phone, their conscience, dentalappointments, everything, so all of that life admin falls on your plate, and some organisations were really supportive and empathetic, and others it was like banging your head against a break wall. while you're looking after someone, as every dementia care will know, who's asking million questions at the time, and i had two tiny kids, so the collective mass of
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stress was huge, it was really huge, and it was almost like the grief, the pain of i am losing this person who i love, you have not even got time for that, that is on the back burner because you are running on anxiety and adrenaline all the time. i know one of the challenges that families can have is that the person who has been diagnosed, they can change, their personality can change significantly, can't it? so all of these changes can be ok if they are cooperating and they are going along with you, but actually, at times, they might not want their life to change in this way, ought to move home, orto change in this way, ought to move home, or to give things away, or even give control of their life away, and that is something that can be really tough, isn't it? taste away, and that is something that can be really tough, isn't it?— be really tough, isn't it? we have been quite _ be really tough, isn't it? we have been quite fortunate _ be really tough, isn't it? we have been quite fortunate that - be really tough, isn't it? we have been quite fortunate that my - be really tough, isn't it? we have been quite fortunate that my dad| be really tough, isn't it? we have - been quite fortunate that my dad has never got particularly angry, i know that can happen with different forms of dementia, it is very important to see everybody�*s dementia journey is completely different. he did not
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necessarily understand it was happening, so when we mooted conversations about changing the set up, may be giving some respite care, he thought that nothing was wrong. so having to move him, it felt like it was against his will of having to tell little serbs all the time, it broke your heart, but it was in his best interest. —— little fibs. and there were times when you thought, we are not going to get over this hump if i did not fib to him. there were times as well when he would phone me and say, you need to come round, and then i got there, he would say, what are you doing here? and it is hard not to be cross about that. ifelt guilty and it is hard not to be cross about that. i felt guilty because i was getting angry with him and taking it out on him, and i had two tiny kids at home that i was not seeing as much, and i wasn't focused at work, and there are these ripples on you as a daughter or a husband or a wife
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or a sibling that then go through yourfamily as well, or a sibling that then go through your family as well, and you feel like you are in freefall. you your family as well, and you feel like you are in freefall.— like you are in freefall. you and our like you are in freefall. you and your sisters _ like you are in freefall. you and your sisters has _ like you are in freefall. you and your sisters has been _ like you are in freefall. you and your sisters has been fantastic. j like you are in freefall. you and - your sisters has been fantastic. we have known about this and what you have known about this and what you have done in the way you have looked after him has been remarkable, it is what anybody would want their family to do for them. that figure, a million people with dementia, you think of that, but then you think of a million families, the number of people, many millions across the country, who are affected by dementia, it is enormous, doesn't it? ., ., ., , dementia, it is enormous, doesn't it? ., ., , ., it? yeah, and it has been good for me and my _ it? yeah, and it has been good for me and my sisters, _ it? yeah, and it has been good for me and my sisters, we _ it? yeah, and it has been good for me and my sisters, we all- it? yeah, and it has been good for me and my sisters, we all realise| me and my sisters, we all realise that we are good at different things. my older sister is very practical, my youngersister things. my older sister is very practical, my younger sister is naturally empathetic and a carer, and so we have all assumed different roles, and now he is in a really great care home thanks to clive and the gang who looked after him, everything has shifted, all three of us say we lost that parent—daughter
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dynamic, we had so much fun together, we laughed together as a family, because we were all in a state of high anxiety for a long time, and now he is happier, he is more comfortable, less stressed, we can all assume those rules again, and we are having a laugh again, like the warhurst gang always used to. it is nice. he like the warhurst gang always used to- it is nice-— to. it is nice. he would not be laughing _ to. it is nice. he would not be laughing about _ to. it is nice. he would not be laughing about the _ to. it is nice. he would not be laughing about the football. laughing about the football yesterday, though, would he? i cannot believe you went there! yesterday, though, would he? i- cannot believe you went there! your sto has cannot believe you went there! your story has resonated _ cannot believe you went there! your story has resonated enormously, we have had a lot of messages. the sponsors, my mum was diagnosed with alzheimer's three years ago. i am contemplating having to leave myjob and move nearer her in the next year, it is devastating. another one says, my mum passed away from dementia injanuary last says, my mum passed away from dementia in january last year, says, my mum passed away from dementia injanuary last year, it is hard to see your loved one to to do it in front of your ice. my heart goes out to nina and her sisters
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because so many of us knowjust how painful it is. it is that practical thing of, how do i make sure they are safe? and on top of that, if you're looking for a care home, the financial you're looking for a care home, he: financial impact is you're looking for a care home, true: financial impact is absolutely huge, we are in a position where we have been able to rent out his house and then subsidises care with his savings, but that will come to an end, that will not last forever, and then there are big decisions about where the funding comes from beyond that point. it is really difficult. i do want to say that there is these happy times that we full see now, people say things like, why don't you take to a dementia coffee morning or a keep fit cloud? and you think, no, that is not him. just because he has dementia, he is still an individual, he would hate a coffee morning with strangers, he always would have, so we have to remember to respect them as individuals that they remain. and individuals that they remain. and every story _ individuals that they remain. and every story is _ individuals that they remain. and every story is different. nina, thank you so much to you and your sisters and your dad for that film,
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a family from north london who lost relatives in the earthquake in turkey a month ago have spoken to bbc london of the huge support they've received from londoners wanting to help. the meter family went to turkey before the earthquake for a family funeral. but after the earthquake struck, they buried seven more family members caught up in the devastation. donations have helped but the family say aid is still needed. they've got food. they're missing out on a little bit of water, but the main thing is getting an actual roof over their head. because the tents aren't, it's not good enough, because it's —5, minus six degrees there constantly. with just over two weeks to go before islam's holy month of fasting begins, a world first in the form of a pop—up ramadan pavilion complete with a pop—up mosque has been created on the grounds of the victoria and albert museum in south kensington. the colourful structure designed by london architect shahid saleem draws inspiration from the v&a�*s archives
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and represents the history of mosques and muslims in britain. it's free to visit and the reusable and compostable pavilion will then go on a world tour. before the travel, a reminder that fares across london transport have gone up by an average of almost 6%. the change came into effect yesterday which means an extra ten pence on single bus journeys and 30 pence more for a pay—as—you—go tube fare. let's take a look at the tubes now. issues on thejubilee, metropolitan and piccadilly lines due to a combination of train cancellations and signal failures. now onto the weather with elizabeth. hello, good morning. it might be the start of the meteorological spring, but it will feel very much as if we're being plunged back into winter this week. some very cold air, a bitter northerly wind, widespread frost by night and also some possible snowfall as well. now, this morning, well it is a frosty start
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to the day for some, the temperatures having dropped a little below freezing last night in places. there will be some early brightness around. some brighter spells but then cloud will thicken into the afternoon, the wind will pick up and eventually will start to see some showery outbreaks of rain too. temperatures a little milder than they were yesterday but this is a cold front, and behind it is that very chilly arctic air sinking down from the north. and that will be with us throughout the day on tuesday. which is looking still rather cloudy, perhaps some brighter spells later, but just a bitter northerly wind blowing, and temperatures a lot lower than they have been of late. and of course with the added wind—chill, it will feel colder than this. keep an eye on the forecast over the next couple of days or so because there's lots of uncertainty regarding the middle of the week. that's it, i'll be back in half an hour. hello, this is breakfast
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withjon kay and sally nugent. we have had a massive response already about nina's film about her dad's dementia.— dad's dementia. christine says, my husband was _ dad's dementia. christine says, my husband was diagnosed _ dad's dementia. christine says, my husband was diagnosed when - dad's dementia. christine says, my husband was diagnosed when he i dad's dementia. christine says, my i husband was diagnosed when he was 57. i have lost my friend and husband of a0 years, i love him dearly, but it's very hard to be a carer with an unknown future. somebody else said, they lost their daughter on the 5th ofjanuary this year, she was only a2 years old and says, there is an even worse shortage of care for people with younger dementia. i never wish this sort of experience on anybody. we will keep reading your messages and return this return story in the future. we will read every single one, but we cannot reply to all of you.
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let's return now to our main story which is the government's plan to crack down on people who enter the uk illegally by crossing the channel in small by crossing the channel in small boats. if those proposals become law, anyone who does so will be removed from britain, banned from returning and prohibited from claiming citizenship. we can speak now to someone who has made thatjourney. ali crossed the channel by small boat in 2021, after fleeing iran. hejoins us now from reading. good morning, ali. thank you for joining us. i think what i would really like to do is just get a sense of why you did it, a journey that you knew was full of risks, do you want to just take us through your story, why did you get into that boat to cross the channel to come here?— that boat to cross the channel to come here? ,., ., ., i. come here? good morning, everyone. because of religious _ come here? good morning, everyone. because of religious persecution, - come here? good morning, everyone. because of religious persecution, i - because of religious persecution, i left iran. and while there was nothing more on the table except
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finding a safe place for the rest of my life, i did thatjourney. and i think the most important thing that we need to consider is that passing the channel is not for fun or adventure. it'sjust the channel is not for fun or adventure. it's just something to survive. and trying to survive is a strong instinct that everyone has. so i did that, just to save my life. that even doing that was incredibly dangerous. you saw, as you did it, the risks involved.— dangerous. you saw, as you did it, the risks involved. yes, absolutely, es. the risks involved. yes, absolutely, yes- passing _ the risks involved. yes, absolutely, yes- passing the — the risks involved. yes, absolutely, yes. passing the channel, - the risks involved. yes, absolutely, yes. passing the channel, in - the risks involved. yes, absolutely, yes. passing the channel, in a - the risks involved. yes, absolutely, | yes. passing the channel, in a small boat, while it is four times more than capacity, it's full of danger, and dress, and lots of other things. but while you have no other option, you have to choose it. what
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but while you have no other option, you have to choose it.— you have to choose it. what did you see, what happened _ you have to choose it. what did you see, what happened to _ you have to choose it. what did you see, what happened to somebody l you have to choose it. what did you | see, what happened to somebody on your boat? see, what happened to somebody on our boat? . see, what happened to somebody on our boat? , ., ., ., , your boat? yes, one of the guards 'ust, he your boat? yes, one of the guards just. he fell— your boat? yes, one of the guards just. he fell in _ your boat? yes, one of the guards just, he fell in the _ your boat? yes, one of the guards just, he fell in the water. - your boat? yes, one of the guards just, he fell in the water. and - your boat? yes, one of the guards just, he fell in the water. and in l your boat? yes, one of the guards just, he fell in the water. and in a| just, he fell in the water. and in a second, you have to think, do you want to save or do you want to put your life in danger, as well? and finally i made that decision, and i just tried to survive him and fortunately i succeeded. you managed to ull him fortunately i succeeded. you managed to pull him out— fortunately i succeeded. you managed to pull him out of— fortunately i succeeded. you managed to pull him out of the _ fortunately i succeeded. you managed to pull him out of the water— fortunately i succeeded. you managed to pull him out of the water and - fortunately i succeeded. you managed to pull him out of the water and he - to pull him out of the water and he survived. . to pull him out of the water and he survived.- you _ to pull him out of the water and he survived. yes. you probably thought, if i reach survived. yes. you probably thought, if! reach in. — survived. yes. you probably thought, if! reach in. i — survived. ies you probably thought, if i reach in, i could be pulled in, i could be also lost here. ifi reach in, i could be pulled in, i could be also lost here.- i could be also lost here. yes, exactl . i could be also lost here. yes, exactly- lots _ i could be also lost here. yes, exactly. lots of _ i could be also lost here. yes, exactly. lots of things. - i could be also lost here. yes, exactly. lots of things. but i i could be also lost here. yes, | exactly. lots of things. but you have to choose the best option in the second. so i did that decision and i am very happy that i did. alli. and i am very happy that i did. ali, ou said and i am very happy that i did. ali, you said that _ and i am very happy that i did. ali, you said that you got in that boat to cross the channel to come to the uk because it was your only option, the only thing left on the table. i
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suppose what our viewers might be wondering is, could you not have stayed somewhere where you first found refuge, maybe even stayed in france, why did you have to come to the uk? , ., ., ., the uk? first of all, we need to know about _ the uk? first of all, we need to know about that _ the uk? first of all, we need to know about that asylum - the uk? first of all, we need to i know about that asylum seekers, the uk? first of all, we need to - know about that asylum seekers, they don't choose their destination. normally, it's chosen by the smugglers. so asylum seekers have no power to choose their final destination for lots of them have no idea about the asylum process or anything about that. most of the things are done by smugglers not asylum seekers. 50 things are done by smugglers not asylum seekers.— things are done by smugglers not asylum seekers. so you didn't know ou are asylum seekers. so you didn't know you are coming _ asylum seekers. so you didn't know you are coming to _ asylum seekers. so you didn't know you are coming to the _ asylum seekers. so you didn't know you are coming to the uk? - asylum seekers. so you didn't know you are coming to the uk? yes. - you are coming to the uk? yes. sor , you are coming to the uk? yes. sorry. just _ you are coming to the uk? yes. sorry. just trying _ you are coming to the uk? yes. sorry. just trying to _ you are coming to the uk? ies sorry, just trying to understand, why come here, that is what a lot of people in the uk want to know, why do so many people seeking asylum
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across the channel to come to the uk rather than staying where they are and where they first arrived to seek refuge? a5 and where they first arrived to seek refu . e? �* . and where they first arrived to seek refu . e? �* , ., and where they first arrived to seek refuue? �* , ., , ., ., , refuge? as i mentioned before, lots of them, they _ refuge? as i mentioned before, lots of them, they don't _ refuge? as i mentioned before, lots of them, they don't know _ refuge? as i mentioned before, lots of them, they don't know where - refuge? as i mentioned before, lots| of them, they don't know where they are. they are normally kept in small places or in a forest for a while, and they say, ok, let's go. most asylum seekers don't know where they are exactly. and others, actually, they try to arrive in england because i think about 50% of them are from safe countries. i have no idea about them. but asylum seekers especially from the middle east, they have no idea about the final destination. and they don't choose that. it's something chosen by the smugglers, asylum seekers. i realise that every person _ smugglers, asylum seekers. i realise that every person in _ smugglers, asylum seekers. i realise that every person in every _ smugglers, asylum seekers. i realise that every person in every situation l that every person in every situation
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is going to be different. what is your situation well, ali, what status do you have? == your situation well, ali, what status do you have?- your situation well, ali, what status do you have? -- what is your situation now? _ status do you have? -- what is your situation now? to _ status do you have? -- what is your situation now? to be _ status do you have? -- what is your situation now? to be honest, - status do you have? -- what is your situation now? to be honest, rightl situation now? to be honest, right now, i'm in limbo for 20 months, situation now? to be honest, right now, i'm in limbo for20 months, i have been staying in a hotel with nothing to do because as you asylum seekers are seekers —— nothing to do because as you asylum seekers —— as you know, asylum seekers —— as you know, asylum seekers are not allowed to work. i am just waiting and waiting. the government _ am just waiting and waiting. the government is _ am just waiting and waiting. the government is trying to stop small boats crossing the channel, the kind of boat that you wearing. can you understand why the government is understand why the government is under such pressure and so many people in the uk have real concerns about this? . people in the uk have real concerns about this? , people in the uk have real concerns about this?— about this? yes, i can understand. enalish about this? yes, i can understand. english people _ about this? yes, i can understand. english people and _ about this? yes, i can understand. english people and the _ about this? yes, i can understand. i english people and the government. but i think the policy that they are trying to implement won't work. because the mindset of asylum
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seekers is wrong. until we don't correct our mind about asylum seekers especially from the middle east i don't think we will solve the problems. 50 east i don't think we will solve the roblems. , ., ., ., problems. so when you hear that the government — problems. so when you hear that the government is _ problems. so when you hear that the government is going _ problems. so when you hear that the government is going to _ problems. so when you hear that the government is going to say, - problems. so when you hear that the government is going to say, anybody| government is going to say, anybody who arrives in the uk in a small boat will be sent away, will never be able to claim asylum here in the future, getting tougher on this, do you think that would be a deterrent? would that have put you off getting about crossing the channel? ih would that have put you off getting about crossing the channel? in w; about crossing the channel? in my oinion, about crossing the channel? in my opinion. no- _ about crossing the channel? in my opinion. no- it— about crossing the channel? in my opinion, no. it won't _ about crossing the channel? in my opinion, no. it won't work. - about crossing the channel? in my| opinion, no. it won't work. because ithink opinion, no. it won't work. because i think asylum seekers that they are passing the channel by boat, they are trying to survive. so while you are trying to survive. so while you are trying to survive, i think you have lots of important things to think more than thinking about transferring to ruan that being deported. —— transferring to rwanda.
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thank you forjoining us here on bbc breakfast this morning, we appreciate you taking the time to tell us your story.— john vine is a former chief inspector of borders and immigration. he joins us now from our london newsroom. morning, mr vine. i morning, mrvine. i hope you are able to hear ali telling us his storyjust able to hear ali telling us his story just there. able to hear ali telling us his storyjust there. how often times, we don't know anyone's story, we don't know the journey they have taken, orwhere don't know the journey they have taken, or where they have come from, and their motivations for arriving in this country. i'm just interested to know, with your previous role in mind, what's your reaction to the suggestion about the new laws coming in to tackle the issue of small boats crossing the channel? well, it reresents boats crossing the channel? well, it represents one _ boats crossing the channel? well, it represents one of _ boats crossing the channel? well, it represents one of them _ boats crossing the channel? well, it represents one of them radical - represents one of them radical departures in asylum policy that certainly i have witnessed in my time in my former role —— one of the most radical departures. it's difficult when you listen to
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individual stories not to have some empathy with asylum seekers. they are coming to the uk for a variety of reasons, and in migration flows there are a whole mix of people. and one of the really difficult issues at the home office has to do is separate out those people and listen to their claims for asylum, and make a judgment accordingly. to their claims for asylum, and make ajudgment accordingly. so to their claims for asylum, and make a judgment accordingly. so behind all the statistics, what ali's story represents, of course, is a human story. and when people meet asylum seekers they very often understand a bit better about where they come from, and some of the motivation for coming to the uk. so in relation to this announcement, it represents a big departure because of the first time the government is going to say, well, if you come by an illegal route and you cannot claim asylum, —— then you cannot claim a sign, your claim will be inadmissible, you will be returned to a third say
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country presumably within a reasonable time and that has all sorts of implications for the home office, the government and i can foresee a tremendous number of practical problems.— foresee a tremendous number of practical problems. that's what i'm aoinu practical problems. that's what i'm auoin to practical problems. that's what i'm going to ask _ practical problems. that's what i'm going to ask you — practical problems. that's what i'm going to ask you about. _ practical problems. that's what i'm going to ask you about. what - practical problems. that's what i'm going to ask you about. what are i practical problems. that's what i'm i going to ask you about. what are the practical problems? when you say this is a radical change, i imagine an awful lot of work needs to be done to put those changes in place. not weeks, months, possibly years, so tell me the practical issues. well, first of all, we have 150,000 backlog in the existing asylum queue. ali, when you ask him where he was, he said he was in limbo, his case is probably in that queue. in the home office productivity in dealing with asylum cases is very low, much lower than it used to be five or ten years ago. working through that queue is going to take an awful lot of time, many years, they need extra staff and resources, people with training to do it. in
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relation to the new policy, one of the things that will happen is instead of people being put into hotels to await an asylum decision, if they are deemed inadmissible for asylum, then they will place an immigration detention. then where are those centres going to be? at the moment i think there are seven, they are usually full. but i foresee under this policy, there will be thousands of people held in immigration immigration pending removal. and thirdly, the home office arejust not removal. and thirdly, the home office are just not very good at removing people from the uk whose asylum claim has been dismissed. and so say, ten years ago, they used to be a5,000 removals per year. on average stop it was fairly flat at that level for a number of years. i think in 2021 there were less than 10,000. and so irrespective of this new policy, the governmentjust aren't very good at enforcing removals from the uk. and where are
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these third countries? we have heard about rwanda, but we know that that policy are stuck in the courts. so it really isn't an effective policy at the moment. so where are the other countries, the agreements with other countries, the agreements with other countries? do they exist to remove people to them? it's not as if we can just take them to some other part of the world and drop them off. ., _ , ., them off. you say things are significantly _ them off. you say things are significantly worse _ them off. you say things are significantly worse now - them off. you say things are significantly worse now in i them off. you say things are - significantly worse now in terms of delays and backlogs than they were even five years ago. so how practical do you think this new policy that we hearing about might be in terms of implementation? i'm imagining that what you would say is, by the time someone gets in a boat, it's too late.— boat, it's too late. well, yes, it is. boat, it's too late. well, yes, it is- because _ boat, it's too late. well, yes, it is. because of _ boat, it's too late. well, yes, it is. because of course _ boat, it's too late. well, yes, it is. because of course the - boat, it's too late. well, yes, it. is. because of course the problem with the whole small boats issue is unlike people secreting themselves in containments and lorries which is equally dangerous, and there have been tremendous tragedies involving migrants of course that have died
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when they have been locked in lorries by organised crime groups, of course, once people are out to sea, in effect, it's a risky situation. you can't really turn people back at sea because you are liable to capsize the boat. and so it leaves the authorities with a real dilemma, as to taking people on shore, and there has been good cooperation between the french and british. only last november there was an extra £60 million announced by the home secretary to increase cooperation between law enforcement. i mean, i note that the prime minister is travelling, i hear the prime editor is travelling to france to speak to the french president at the end of the week. —— the prime minister is travelling to france. one of the best and quickest way of dealing with these things is to get the french to agree to an immediate return of people who cross the channel back to france but i don't
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think that will be successful so far. ~ ., ., , ., ~ far. we will wait to see, thank you for 'oinin: far. we will wait to see, thank you forjoining us- _ far. we will wait to see, thank you forjoining us. thank _ far. we will wait to see, thank you forjoining us. thank you. - we are reflecting on a few hours of topsy—turvy football. once in awhile of result happens that stops you in your tracks. of result happens that stops you in your tracks-— of result happens that stops you in ourtracks. . ., , , your tracks. that was won yesterday, liverool your tracks. that was won yesterday, liverpool against _ your tracks. that was won yesterday, liverpool against manchester - your tracks. that was won yesterday, j liverpool against manchester united, it needs no introduction because of the history between them, but for liverpool to win 7—0. the the history between them, but for liverpool to win 7-0._ liverpool to win 7-0. the zero is even more _ liverpool to win 7-0. the zero is even more shocking _ liverpool to win 7-0. the zero is even more shocking than - liverpool to win 7-0. the zero is even more shocking than the - liverpool to win 7-0. the zero is - even more shocking than the seven. juergen klopp will be delighted. united have not had the best of seasons —— they have not had the better seasons, livable, seasons —— they have not had the betterseasons, livable, but united won a trophyjust eight days ago. there will be t—shirts made about this one. a record breaking day for liverpool. the biggest win over their rivals, and to think they were only 1—0 up at half time through cody gakpo — who almostjoined united instead of liverpool.
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mo salah struck twice as they cruised to victory, this goal making him liverpool's highest premier league goal—scorer. managerjurgen klopp delighted with his team's performance. i don't know, it sounds like a day from another season. like, it doesn't fit really in season series so far. so even better it feels in the moment, because it's so incredibly important for us. we need results, and for results we need performances and tonight we got both. a super performance from the start, from the start a super performance. there were errors, it was not our standard. we didn't play as a team. there were 11 players on the pitch but they did not pull together. and you look at this and it's unprofessional. we have to overthink this, what happened exactly, and take our lessons out. his facial expression said it all.
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for united, theirjoint biggest defeat in the club's history. fun afternoon for gary neville, working alongside former liverpool defenderjamie carragher. that commentary box must have been fun yesterday afternoon for one person at least. celtic are nine points clear at the top of the scottish premiership again after beating st mirren 5—1. they trailed 1—0 at the break but made their extra man count in the second half. substitute liel abada one of five different scorers as they made it a very comfortable afternoon. it was a result which arsenal hope will establish themselves as the leading side in women's football once again. four years since they last lifted a trophy, they were 3—1winners against chelsea here to lift the league cup. for a long time they were the dominant force, their managerjonas eidevall says this victory will give them the belief they can get back their again. alessia russo scored a hat—trick as manchester united extended their lead at the top of the women's super league. the england striker helping them to a 5—1win over leicester
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to take them three points clear of second placed manchester city who beat tottenham. there were also wins for aston villa and reading. and congratulations to andrew gilding who at the age of 52 has become a major winner, beating darts ace michael van gerwen in the final of the uk open championship. a huge 200/1 outsider ahead of the tournament in minehead, he took van gerwen to a thrilling deciding leg. it's a first ever televised title for 'goldfinger�*. and a reminder to never give up! what do you mean, the grand old age to 52? ii what do you mean, the grand old age to 52? , ., what do you mean, the grand old age t052? ., ,_ what do you mean, the grand old age t052? y , ., to 52? if you apply yourself to something — to 52? if you apply yourself to something for— to 52? if you apply yourself to something for such _ to 52? if you apply yourself to something for such a - to 52? if you apply yourself to something for such a long - to 52? if you apply yourself to l something for such a long time! to 52? if you apply yourself to - something for such a long time! that hit a nerve. — something for such a long time! that hit a nerve, john! _ something for such a long time! that hit a nerve, john! may _ something for such a long time! that hit a nerve, john! may slightly! - something for such a long time! that hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age i hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age doesnt hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age doesn't aet hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age doesn't get in _ hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age doesn't get in the _ hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age doesn't get in the way _ hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age doesn't get in the way of _ hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age doesn't get in the way of dance. - hit a nerve, john! may slightly! age doesn't get in the way of dance. i i doesn't get in the way of dance. i don't know. —— in the way of darts.
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does your eyesight go a little bit? i think you should stop speaking, john watson! read in the room, john! what about— john watson! read in the room, john! what about 53? we will speak to you later. �* , ., what about 53? we will speak to you later. �* ,, ., ,., what about 53? we will speak to you later. �* i. ., ., , what about 53? we will speak to you later. �* ., .,, later. are you about to put your classes later. are you about to put your glasses on? _ later. are you about to put your glasses on? yes, _ later. are you about to put your glasses on? yes, i— later. are you about to put your glasses on? yes, i can't - later. are you about to put your glasses on? yes, i can't read i later. are you about to put your| glasses on? yes, i can't read it, hel me glasses on? yes, i can't read it, help me out! — when the singer george michael was arrested for a lewd act in a los angeles public toilet, and subsequently outed as gay, he could have let the public shaming destroy him. instead he turned it into his own story of acceptance and liberation. 25 years on, those events have been explored in a documentary for channel a. take a look. on april 7th, 1998, at approximately 16a8 hrs, beverly hills police officers arrested the singer known as george michaels. mr michaels was arrested for a violation of 6a7a, engaging in a lewd act.
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he was by himself. the officers observed the act and arrested mr michaels. no question, that was a completely self—destructive act. i always kind of presumed that the press by then knew i was gay. there was so much rumour out there. you know, the world was turning into this place where really, people thought they deserved to know. and i completely resented that. we're nowjoined by the director of that documentary, michael ogden. good morning. hello. 25 years ago, it's amazing — good morning. hello. 25 years ago, it's amazing because _ good morning. hello. 25 years ago, it's amazing because in _ good morning. hello. 25 years ago, it's amazing because in some - good morning. hello. 25 years ago, it's amazing because in some ways it feels like yesterday, and yet it feels like yesterday, and yet it feels like yesterday, and yet it feels like we are in a very
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different place today. it does, doesnt different place today. it does, doesn't it? — different place today. it does, doesn't it? it's _ different place today. it does, doesn't it? it's a _ different place today. it does, doesn't it? it's a really - different place today. it does, | doesn't it? it's a really strange thing to look back at that period of time. it's a moment where you feel it could go all terribly wrong for george, and particularly when you look at the newspapers, and what they were saying, and the sort of language that was used around him and about what happened. as kenny goss says, they really shamed him, they did that. and what's amazing is george said, i'm not going to be shamed, i'm going to step out and be the man who i am, quite a moment. kenny goss was his former partner who speaks in the film. what's fascinating about this is we have seen it many times before, a paper can get hold of any story, the person at the centre of it doesn't have control over it. how did he manage to take ownership of his own story? i manage to take ownership of his own sto ? ., . manage to take ownership of his own sto ? ~' , ., ., story? i think, he is in a position, it's a time — story? i think, he is in a position,
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it's a time before _ story? i think, he is in a position, it's a time before social— story? i think, he is in a position, it's a time before social media, i story? i think, he is in a position, | it's a time before social media, so that's really key. people don't realise that. so you had no direct way of dealing with your public. but what he did was that amazing interview with cnn, he went on us tv on the us news, and he took ownership. he said, yes, i'm gay, i'm not ashamed, i don't think i've done anything wrong and that switched it around. and then of course within months he had released outside, which made a joke of it. and suddenly it was heroic. iie outside, which made a joke of it. and suddenly it was heroic. he had been arrested _ and suddenly it was heroic. he had been arrested in _ and suddenly it was heroic. he had been arrested in public _ and suddenly it was heroic. he had been arrested in public toilets, - and suddenly it was heroic. he had been arrested in public toilets, we | been arrested in public toilets, we should explain, so he took the mickey out of his situation, dressed up mickey out of his situation, dressed up as a police officer, dancing in the public toilets. hejust up as a police officer, dancing in the public toilets. he just went with it, didn't he? it’s the public toilets. he 'ust went with it, didn't he? it's amazing, isn't it? and — with it, didn't he? it's amazing, isn't it? and it's _ with it, didn't he? it's amazing, isn't it? and it's really - with it, didn't he? it's amazing, isn't it? and it's really fun - with it, didn't he? it's amazing, isn't it? and it's really fun and i isn't it? and it's really fun and joyous. and it turned something which could be quite difficult into entertainment and fun and joyous and seizing a moment. and saying it's all right, it's ok to be gay and 0k to be like this. all right, it's ok to be gay and ok to be like this.—
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all right, it's ok to be gay and ok to be like this. why had he not said that any time _ to be like this. why had he not said that any time before? _ to be like this. why had he not said that any time before? he _ to be like this. why had he not said that any time before? he had - to be like this. why had he not said that any time before? he had been| to be like this. why had he not said i that any time before? he had been in the public eye for such a long time. did we learn in the film what his fear was? . ., did we learn in the film what his fear was? , ~ ,., fear was? yes, i think so. i think--- — fear was? yes, i think so. i think... i'm _ fear was? yes, i think so. i think... i'm gay, _ fear was? yes, i think so. i think... i'm gay, and - fear was? yes, i think so. i think... i'm gay, and what| fear was? yes, i think so. i i think... i'm gay, and what you realise is you should neverjudge somebody for when they choose to come out because it's their own journey and their own story. when i put this together and i was making this with my series producer and the execs, we spent a lot of time looking at him and his story and listening to audio and watching interviews, and what you realise is that he was going through the same process as lots of gay people go through. they come out to a friend, they come up to someone they love, they come up to someone they love, they build it in steps. —— they come out to someone they love. that's what he was doing. as he said, you we had no right to know, it's his call. ., , ~' call. younger viewers might think in this day and — call. younger viewers might think in this day and age. — call. younger viewers might think in this day and age, why _ call. younger viewers might think in this day and age, why would - call. younger viewers might think in this day and age, why would it - call. younger viewers might think in this day and age, why would it be i call. younger viewers might think in | this day and age, why would it be an issue? why would somebody not come out if they were young pop star?
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going back to what i said at the beginning, 25 years ago was a very different time, climate, the politics, it would have been a big deal, wouldn't it? completely. if you go back even earlier to the 80s when he was in wham, he was a huge international pop star at the height of the aid process. there was a moral panic about aids and gay people. the idea stepping out would have been difficult. so people. the idea stepping out would have been difficult.— have been difficult. so what was life like for _ have been difficult. so what was life like for people _ have been difficult. so what was life like for people like - have been difficult. so what was life like for people like that - have been difficult. so what was life like for people like that at i life like for people like that at the time? it life like for people like that at the time? ., . life like for people like that at the time?— life like for people like that at the time? ., ., , , . the time? it was really difficult, i talked to holly _ the time? it was really difficult, i talked to holly johnson _ the time? it was really difficult, i talked to holly johnson about - the time? it was really difficult, i i talked to holly johnson about this, talked to hollyjohnson about this, he got a lot of stick. there was lots of gossip in the papers about him that was very negative. and i think that makes it really hard, it makes it really hard to be above that line. iirate makes it really hard to be above that line. ~ ., makes it really hard to be above that line. ~ . , , ., ., that line. we get a glimpse of that in the documentary. _ that line. we get a glimpse of that in the documentary. we _ that line. we get a glimpse of that in the documentary. we have - that line. we get a glimpse of that in the documentary. we have got. that line. we get a glimpse of that| in the documentary. we have got a clip of kenny goss, george's former
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partner, describing one of their dates before he came out, this was in 1996. iirate dates before he came out, this was in 1996. ~ ., ., ., y in 1996. we went to a really expensive — in 1996. we went to a really expensive place. _ in 1996. we went to a really expensive place. and - in 1996. we went to a really expensive place. and as - in 1996. we went to a really expensive place. and as we| in 1996. we went to a really - expensive place. and as we were entering, he turns around and falls down like 12 steps down to the bottom of it. and so he injured his ankle. but he got through dinner and everything. he had a little rip in his thing. he took me back and showed me his videos. i didn't know his music and things like that. it was cute. the two people were so different. the man on stage had all this confidence and performed as large and the man that i knew didn't necessarily have all that confidence.— necessarily have all that confidence. ., , , confidence. he was a very complex character. — confidence. he was a very complex character, wasn't _ confidence. he was a very complex character, wasn't he, _ confidence. he was a very complex character, wasn't he, rights - confidence. he was a very complex character, wasn't he, rights to - confidence. he was a very complex character, wasn't he, rights to the| character, wasn't he, rights to the end. after coming out he then still had struggles in his life. completely, but i think what is
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amazing is he became a campaigner and defended for lgbtq plus rights and defended for lgbtq plus rights and was always there to say, you cannot judge and was always there to say, you cannotjudge our lifestyle. the rest of his life was troubled, but he was still making headlines repeatedly. and often about his sexuality again. but he always said, i'm not ashamed, i won't be ashamed, and look back on this period with horror, and i think that's true. this period with horror, and i think that's true-— this period with horror, and i think that's true. how challenging was it to persuade _ that's true. how challenging was it to persuade people _ that's true. how challenging was it to persuade people to _ that's true. how challenging was it to persuade people to talk- that's true. how challenging was it to persuade people to talk about i that's true. how challenging was it to persuade people to talk about it or are people looking back in horror now and thinking, why were we even this in this situation? it’s now and thinking, why were we even this in this situation?— this in this situation? it's always a challenge _ this in this situation? it's always a challenge to _ this in this situation? it's always a challenge to gain _ this in this situation? it's always a challenge to gain people's - this in this situation? it's always| a challenge to gain people's trust to be able to talk about this. we spoke to journalists and deputy editors and they were brilliant and kind and generous to talk to me because we are talking about a subject that was difficult and
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problematic. but it's really useful to look back at that time i look at where we have come in who we were actually as a nation and where we are today, because we have moved forward but we haven't at the same time. �* . forward but we haven't at the same time. �* , , , �* ., time. it's interesting, isn't it, to hear the music _ time. it's interesting, isn't it, to hear the music as _ time. it's interesting, isn't it, to hear the music as the _ time. it's interesting, isn't it, to hear the music as the backdrop | time. it's interesting, isn't it, to i hear the music as the backdrop to time. it's interesting, isn't it, to - hear the music as the backdrop to it because the music is still now for us in our minds, it still feels very contemporary. but yet the ear and the politics and the context is so different. did the politics and the context is so different. , , , . . ., different. did his music change after this? _ different. did his music change after this? i — different. did his music change after this? i think _ different. did his music change after this? i think it's - after this? i think it's interesting, - after this? i think it's interesting, it - after this? i think it's interesting, it always after this? i think it's - interesting, it always there in after this? i think it's _ interesting, it always there in his music, what he was at his sexuality was always there. fast lovers about him and sexuality, —— fast love is about him and his sexuality. his message was there and you had to listen but people chose not to. so interesting. the documentaries into parts, is that right?— parts, is that right? yes, it starts toniaht. parts, is that right? yes, it starts tonight- -- _ parts, is that right? yes, it starts tonight- -- it— parts, is that right? yes, it starts tonight- -- it is— parts, is that right? yes, it starts tonight. -- it is in _ parts, is that right? yes, it starts tonight. -- it is in two _
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parts, is that right? yes, it starts tonight. -- it is in two parts. - parts, is that right? yes, it starts| tonight. -- it is in two parts. nine o'clock tonight _ tonight. -- it is in two parts. nine o'clock tonight and _ tonight. -- it is in two parts. nine o'clock tonight and then _ tonight. -- it is in two parts. ninej o'clock tonight and then tomorrow night. i have seen the first one i look forward to the second one. thank you and lovely to talk to you. you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8:59.
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