tv The Big Cases BBC News March 11, 2023 11:30pm-12:01am GMT
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baby were shot dead in hamburg on thursday. eight others were wounded in the attack on a group of jehovah's witnesses. you are watching bbc news. now, big cases: homegrown terrorist. screaming and shouting. phone call: i'm at the men arena in manchester, - there's a bomb just gone off in the foyer. phone call: a very loud bang go off, i evacuating the station immediately. i definitely a bomb. people injured, at least 20 casualties. 10.31, may 22nd, 2017. least 20 casualties. salman abedi detonates a bomb in the city room entrance to the manchester arena. still got mass casualties, it does look like it has i been like a nail bomb.
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there's bolts and shrapnel everywhere inside. - an area packed full of happy children and their families leaving the ariana grande concert. 22 people are killed. hundreds injured. it's the most devastating terrorist attack on uk soil since the london bombings in july 2005. the bomber was a young mancunian radicalised to the point where he could kill and maim children in the heart of the city he was born and raised in. what was salman abedi's journey towards mass murder? could the attack have been stopped? the final day of the manchester arena inquiry. it has lasted more than two years, heard from 267 witnesses and collected tens of thousands of pages of evidence. it's the day when the families of the 22 victims will hear inquiry chairman sirjohn saunders' verdict on how the security services dealt with salman abedi, someone who had been known to them for years before the attack.
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he said there were failures. there was a realistic possibility that actionable intelligence could have been obtained which might have led to actions preventing the attack. the reasons for this missed opportunity included a failure by the security service, in my view, to act swiftly enough. those that played any part in the murder of our children will never, ever get forgiveness, from top to bottom, mi5 to the associates of the attacker, we will always believe that you all played a part in the murder of our children. as a result of these failures, at the very least, a real possibility of preventing this attack was lost. this is a devastating conclusion for us. may 23rd, the day after the arena attack. the hunt for answers has begun.
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detectives and forensic teams descend on salman abedi's home. it's the starting point of a trial that will lead from the unremarkable streets of inner—city south manchester to a north african war zone and into the dark complexities of radicalisation. salman abedi was a mancunian of libyan background, born and raised on these streets. he went to primary school round the corner, secondary school down the road, he was a manchester united supporter, played football on the streets with his mates, took little interest in schoolwork. a pretty typical teenage boy. but those teenage years became increasingly unstable. there were fights, shouting matches with teachers, petty crime. the head teacher at burnage high school described him as unlikeable, lacklustre, just not engaged. moss side/hume was a big hunting ground for people trying
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to recruit young people, especially for is and other related groups... ..due to social deprivation, people feeling marginalised, disenfranchised. ismael lee south spends his life trying to tackle the spread of islamic extremism. he says of some young muslims like salman abedi were seduced by the violent glamour of the is story, a stark contrast to their lives here. these things you would see on every day news, front page of the newspapers, muslims, benefit frauds, benefit thieves, so muslims were very demonised, muslim youths were demonised and disenfranchised, so many muslims felt under attack. so, when people were seeing the marketing of is, they were saying, here i am hated but this could be a place a place where i could live, where i'm free, where i could live in like a utopia.
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salman abedi accessed extreme islamist propaganda online but it was his immediate family who exerted the strongest influence. his father, ramadan abedi, was a hardcore islamist who fled gaddafi's regime. he arrived in manchester with his wife samir in 1993 and settled into what was to become the largest libyan exile community in the uk. people living in this area call it little tripoli. ramadan was a member of the libyan islamic fighting group. it's thought all the key figures in this organisation lived in manchester at some point. in 2010 there was a report produced by thejoint terrorism analysis centre, which is jtac. that's an office that exists in the heart of mi5. and within that report, they highlighted that the libyan community, or members of the libyan community, were at risk of being radicalised, the younger members, at risk of being radicalised by some of the older members who had perhaps lived through the gaddafi regime,
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who had got a different view around islamism and that this activity was going on. i would like to think that if that report that if that report arrived on somebody�*s desk today they would look at it and think, 0k, we need some sort of community strategy to try and disrupt what's going on or actually understand better what's going on and identify those specific individuals who are involved. i see no evidence in the inquiry that that happened. one of those libyan extremists living in extremists living in the city was this man, anas al—libi, a friend of ramadan abedi. given asylum here in 1995, he was later arrested by the us government accused of plotting attacks on us embassies in nairobi and dar es salaam. this 180—page text on how
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to wage a jihadist war was found in his flat. it's now known as the "manchester manual". salman abedi's brothers ismail and hashim were also significant influences. the investigation revealed they both had large amounts of material relating to is. ismail, bbc news, can i ask you if you questions, please, ismail? ismail refused to give evidence to the inquiry or talk to the bbc and is now in libya. why won't you speak to the inquiry? hashim was jailed for life for his part in planning the arena attack. disengaged, angry, salman abedi was, according to one expert witness to the arena inquiry, ripe for radicalisation. his close family clearly held the law in this country in pretty scant regard, it didn't really matter too much if they broke it. that was the first thing. so, he had no connection to the legal side of british life in the sense of being law—abiding, getting a law—abiding worldview. as we've already mentioned, for various reasons such as lack of parental support, he didn't engage with that massive
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mechanism of mainstream education, that wasn't open to him, although he did try, to be fair, he had various moments when he tried to engage. and so, really, he had no active connection to law—abiding british society. i must admit, i've never seen such a complete picture of the petri dish absolutely brimming with germs, if you like — call to prayer. didsbury mosque. the abedi family worshipped here. the arena inquiry heard claims from the families' legal teams that the mosque had turned a blind eye to extremism. sirjohn didn't find any evidence of that, or that it radicalised to salman abedi, but he said it wilfully ignored highly charged political tensions between libyan factions there. for the first time, the mosque agreed to answer those extremism allegations. how can people say that we have radicalised
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or are radicalising people? as i mentioned to other people, my children could have been at the arena. there were muslim children at the arena. what that person salman abedi did was evil. and he definitely did not become radicalised by listening to a ten minute sermon here orjoin forces with other so—called terrorists or other radicalised people at this centre. we have no room for radicalisation, i can say that 100%. i'm very sure. tell me about your relationship with the police and security services, there was some criticism that this mosque had not worked that closely, but were you ever told anything about abedi, were you ever given any worrying information? we were never told anything about abedi, and i will reiterate and repeat that, we were never told anything about abedi or anybody else. there were other terrorists who we were told used
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to frequent the centre, we never knew them, we were never told about them. of course i'm going to criticise the police, if they knew, had they been told by the counter—terrorism unit that these people are frequenting this mosque or that mosque? and remember something else, it is not only this mosque that these people frequented. i do feel that this centre is being used as a scapegoat, i really do feel that. i know that the police and the ctu will always do their best, but as i said to you earlier on and i repeat it, if we are not aware of these radical people who are coming to this centre to pray and go, i cannot help the police. they refuse to tell us. we never know anything about what's going on. we want to really put this behind us but again i cannot put everything that's happened behind me. 22 victims have gone, i cannot forget about them. may their souls rest in peace.
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whatever happened in manchester, it was the collapse of the gaddafi regime in 2011 and the years of civil war that followed that appear to have played a major part in turning radicalised salman abedi into a killer. from 2011, salman abedi and his brothers made numerous trips to libya to join their parents and may have fought with with the libyan islamic fighting group. anyone being involved in a conflict zone is likely to instigate a degree of trauma, they will have seen things, experienced things that we would not normally expect especially young teenagers to go through in the united kingdom. but also, alongside that, we see a normalisation of violence, we see a normalisation of violence such that it becomes a solution to problems. it becomes something that they can't imagine doing because they can it becomes something that they can imagine doing because they can see other people doing, but it also reinforces a sense of masculinity and especially where becoming a hero, a defender, being willing
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to protect through violence, through willingness to take up arms, is linked to being a hero, a good man. following his trips to libya, salman abedi became increasingly withdrawn, the partying stopped, he was seen in the street outside his home chanting prayers and wearing robes. he argued with fellow muslims who condemned is. he intensified his contact with this man, abdalraouf abdallah, who had also fought in libya. the pair exchanged hundreds of texts, in some of them salman abedi talked of martyrdom. abdallah was laterjailed for trying to recruit fighters for is. salman abedi visited him in prison. abdallah gave evidence at the arena inquiry. i didn't play any part of radicalisation or anything, and again, just to tell you that my fight was against
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gaddafi and assad and the dictators in our countries. did you ever have any suspicion that he would become a suicide bomber? not me or my friends or anyone. had... ..any idea what was going on in salman�*s head. the fact is when it happened, i heard it on the radio because i was on basic at the time in prison, and i actually called my friend ilyas on the prison phone and i was crying and confused and shocked. i said, what the hell happened? i thought he was in libya. he said, it's true, it is him, it was on the news. so, what happened to salman, it's a very... it's something that i can never, ever, ever take out of my mind, it's haunting me till now, because he's my friend and the salman that i knew, he had never, ever spoke
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about something like that. salman abedi returned from his final visit to libya in early may 2017, an unhappy, angry young man radicalised by his family, his friends, online propaganda and exposure to violent conflict. he was days away from launching his devastating attack. he put the bomb together here at a rented city centre flat, the parts collected over several weeks with the help of his younger brother hashim. at seven in the evening, salman abedi set out to maim and kill. the rucksack he was carrying was packed with 3,000 nuts and bolts around the explosive. salman abedi's final journey to the arena. as the crowds filled the city room he detonated the device. witnesses said he smiled as he did so.
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22 dead, more than 200 injured. could m15 and counter—terrorism officers have prevented the attack? that was the focus of the third part of the manchester arena inquiry in 2022. much of the evidence was heard behind closed doors, a decision that angered families of the victims. but the inquiry did reveal that abedi had been known to police and m15 for years. members of the libyan community reported abedi to an antiterrorism hotline. no further action was taken. m15 twice classified abedi as a subject of interest but he was regarded as low level and his case file was closed. in 2014, abdalraouf abdallah�*s phone was seized in a counter—terrorism raid on his manchesterflat.
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there was no attempt to track down his friend salman who sent texts about martyrdom. when abdallah�*s phone was seized, abedi's telephone number was on that phone, it was identified as a distinct phone number, but no further investigative work was done to figure out who that person was. for me, it is again another missed opportunity. m15 knew that he was visiting abdallah. does the detail of what was in those messages, had they been ascribed back to abedi, possibly change our view of the intensity of the contact that he was having and the nature of the contact that he was having with abdallah? i think probably yes. in 2015 and 2016, salman abedi's name cropped up during investigations into extremists in manchester.
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his case wasn't reopened. may 2016 and concerns were raised that he had travelled from turkey into libya. he wasn't questioned on his return. in 2017 he returned from another trip to libya days before the attack, again, he wasn't spoken to. that stop could have been useful. we don't know but it could have been useful, and for a number of reasons. first of all, it is possible that they would have gained intelligence from the material that you would have had on him — a phone, commonly. but secondly, it could also have acted as a disruption or deterrent, you know, coming back from your route to libya, landing at heathrow or manchester or wherever it might be and being stopped by the police under the terrorism act is probably going to say to you, you're being watched. and might that have affected his psyche, might that have changed his approach? we will never know. but the scale of the challenge faced by the security services
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can't be underestimated. in 2017, they were dealing with around 800 active investigations into potential terrorist attacks. there were 3,000 subjects of interest that were being monitored at some level. but there were more than 20,000 former or lapsed subjects of interest no longer being monitored, and salman abedi was in this category. for the families of the 22 victims and the survivors of the attack, the third volume of the arena report was the one they'd been waiting for, answers to the big question, could the security services have anticipated and stopped salman abedi's attack? there are plenty of "might"s and "could have"s in sirjohn saunders' 200—page report, but he does conclude there were missed opportunities, two pieces of intelligence relating to abedi that may have led to the plot being uncovered. this, according to sirjohn, could have led police to the car
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where the bomb was being stored. the criticism of m15 prompted a rare public apology from the agency, but they refused to take questions. gathering covert intelligence is difficult. but had we managed to seize the slim chance we had, those impacted might not have experienced such appalling loss and trauma. i am profoundly sorry that m15 did not prevent the attack. martyn hett was one of abedi's 22 victims. pr manager, coronation street superfan, described by his friends as a one—man hen party. he suffered unsurvivable injuries in the blast. for his mother, figen murray, sirjohn saunders' findings weren't a surprise. turning the clock back, i'm sure things would maybe been done differently,
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with the benefit of hindsight, but hindsight wasn't there, and whatever went wrong went wrong, and you can't turn the clock back, so, this is the situation we are faced with. a lot of the families have got a real intense anger, as i'm sure you can understand, you haven't, have you? i have not been angry, because anger to me is not a very useful emotion. i'd much rather channel my energy into proactivity and moving forward, because, do you know, martyn was such a fun—loving and people—loving guy, he was so full ofjoy, and i think if i was angry, depressed, sad all the time, i'd do his very essence a disservice. the day after the anniversary
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i remember coming downstairs and saying to my husband, the anniversary is over now, i now feel i need to go to schools, because i felt that young people are so vulnerable to radicalisation and ijust wanted to give them the tools to know what to do if they feel they are being radicalised. also the knowledge to even know and recognise how they are being or if they are being radicalised. obviously when the attack happened we didn't have the tv or radio on, because we were all really upset, understandably. and yet somebody kept buying newspapers and putting them on the dining room table, and i remember on day three walking past the table and going, oh, my god. and i saw the picture of him for the first time, because i didn't know who did the attack. and there he was on the front page, and the caption said he was 22 years old. so, i was shocked at the young age of the guy. so, i've forgiven salman abedi because as far as i'm concerned, he wasn't the true monster, the true monster is the ideology who turns people into extremists and turns them into people
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who go and kill. so, i feel that he was born innocent, and therefore i feel that on that day, 23 people died, not 22. people always mention 22, but actually, the 23rd person lost their life as well. and that was salman abedi. and now you're at the end of that two—year process, do you feel that word closure or how do you feel now? no, you know, martyn died out of sequence, it should have been me dying before him. so, he was ripped out of our lives, and he was young and full of life and joy, so, i've got a permanent martyn—shaped hole in my soul, that will always be there till the day i die. i feel very broken but not destroyed, and the brokenness is something that will
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hello there. the remaining snow will be melting during sunday as we get some much milder air, just for a while, though, because there is more snow in the forecast over the week ahead. and that weather front has been bringing some snow to the hills of northern england snd scotland, should be out of the way, though, by sunday morning, and following on from that, this is where we see the milder air coming in as the winds change direction to more of a south—westerly. there's still some cold air, though, to start the day in the far north of scotland, but otherwise, temperatures are going to be 5—8 celsius as we start the second half of the weekend. and with that milder air, there could be quite a lot of cloud, but we should see some sunshine here and there, more especially across eastern parts of england. we could see more rain coming back into scotland and across northern ireland, and then later in the day, some rain pushes into southwest england and towards wales as those
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south—westerly winds pick up. and this is what it does to the temperatures, it's still chilly in the far north of scotland, but otherwise temperatures generally will be in double figures. we're likely to make 1a celsius in the south east of england. with that milder air coming in, we see the snow melting, turning misty and murky in the hills, continued melting as we head overnight because we've got rain falling in many areas, but it will be turning colder in scotland. that rain turning to snow in scotland, especially in the hills. the winds pick up in the northwest, bringing in the colder air. the rain clears away from northern ireland, continues in northern parts of england and wales and to the south, where we've got some sunshine and a few showers as well. but it will be windy pretty much everywhere. the winds could be touching gale force in southern parts of england and wales. and later we could have some gales in the north west of scotland. that will make it feel colder, temperatures are going to be dropping through the day. in scotland and northern ireland, still making double figures across england and wales for one more day. but things will change overnight, that weather front sweeps rain south eastwards across the uk, and then the wind direction changes,
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and we all get this north westerly wind piling in on tuesday making it feel much colder and bringing with it a mixture of sunshine but also quite a few wintry showers. sleet and snow sweeping down across scotland, northern ireland into england and wales through the day as well. the temperatures in the south could reach 6—7 celsius. northern scotland we're struggling to around 2—3 celsius, but it will be windy, strongest winds probably down north sea coasts. and when you factor in the strength of the wind, well, then those temperatures are going to feel more like closer to freezing.
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this is bbc news — i'm mark lobel with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. the bbc�*s director general, tim davie, says he won't resign but apologises for widespread disruption to the corporation's sports output — after presenters and pundits walk out in support of the match of the day host, gary lineker. success for me is gary gets back on air, and together, we are giving to the audiences that world—class sports coverage, which as i say, i'm sorry we haven't been able to deliver today. the british chancellor meets the governor of the bank of england, to discuss the collapse of silicon valley bank — which mostly financed tech start—ups. tackling tourette's — a leading british charity hails a life—changing device that controls the syndrome's symptoms.
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