tv Breakfast BBC News March 23, 2023 6:00am-9:01am GMT
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good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. fighting for his political career — borisjohnson swears he didn't lie to parliament over partygate. good morning. is the cost of borrowing set to rise again? the bank of england is expected to increase interest rates later today. i'll love the details. —— i will have the details. back to school — the headteacher whose life was saved by the defibrillator he bought to protect his pupils. late drama in the race to buy manchester united —
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there's confusion as the two main bidders ask for more time and get the deadline extended, and several new suitors get their bids in. and its sunshine and showers across the uk once again. quite blustery for england and wales. details here on breakfast. good morning. it's thursday, the 23rd of march. our main story. borisjohnson's political future hangs in the balance, after he was questioned by mps investigating whether he misled parliament over lockdown parties in downing street. during a three—hour session, the former prime minister repeatedly denied lying to the commons about events in number 10, and insisted that he believed at the time the gatherings were necessary for work purposes. our political correspondent, helen catt reports. i swear by almighty god that the evidence i shall give before this committee shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. it is rare for an mp to have to swear on the bible
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before giving evidence in parliament. but this was, after all, a hearing about truth — mrjohnson adamant he'd told it. i'm here to say to you, hand on heart, that i did not lie to the house. for around three hours, mps on the privileges committee questioned mrjohnson about why he told the commons that covid guidance had not been broken in downing street. they showed him photographs like this one, of a leaving due in november 2020, which they said suggested he himself had seen guidance being broken. the guidance does not say you can have a thank you party and as many people in the room as you like, if it's very important you thank people. the guidance doesn't say that. i accept that not everybody is perfectly socially distanced in that picture, but that did not mean to me, when i stood up in the house of commons and said that the guidance was followed completely, i was not thinking of that event and thinking that somehow that contravened the guidance.
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absolutely not. we were making a huge effort to follow the guidance. mrjohnson also said that he would believe until the day he died that it had been his job to thank staff, and gatherings to do so had been essential. would you have advised anyone else in the country, _ if they'd asked you at one of the press conferences i at that time, to have a large social gathering in their garden? - it was not a large social gathering. it was a gathering intended... and i really must insist on this point. people who say that we were partying in lockdown simply do not know what they are talking about. people who say that that event was a purely social gathering are quite wrong. those around mrjohnson believe the hearing went well. i thought he gave a very robust defence of himself, actually. i thought he addressed the points very well. i think we also need to remember this is not a reinvestigation of partygate. really the committee is talking about
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parliamentary procedure, whether that's been followed or not, and whether the accounts that he had given are correct. mrjohnson's critics took a different view. i got the impression by the end that he knows perfectly well. that the rules weren't followed. he's always known that the rules weren't perfectly followed, - and he's always sort i of tried to cover it up. it will be for the committee to decide if it thinks mrjohnson committed a contempt, and if it was inadvertent, reckless or deliberate. their report is not expected until late spring or early summer. helen catt, bbc news, westminster. our chief political correspondent nick eardleyjoins us now. good morning. so, we have seen the evidence. many of us were sitting glued to it. but now i suppose it is all about what happens next. what does this committee do with that? good morning. the committee still has to go over the evidence. it could look for some new stuff before it comes up with his final conclusions. but i think we will see that by the summer. and i think we
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got a few suggestions yesterday, a few hints at what they were thinking in some of the questioning to boris johnson. you heard of the chairwoman of the committee, harriet harman, saying that she thought the assurances that borisjohnson had been given about the rules and guidance being followed were flimsy. we heard one of the conservative mps on the committee, sir bernard jenkin, saying that he doesn't think borisjohnson got the right sort of advice, that he could have looked more for proper advice from his senior aides, more for proper advice from his senioraides, like more for proper advice from his senior aides, like the top civil servant in the country, the cabinet secretary simon case. then we had another conservative mp, alberto costa, telling borisjohnson that he thought it should have been obvious to him that the rules weren't followed. he had set them and he had been at some of the events. in boris johnson —— borisjohnson's defence boils down to basically when he spoke to parliament he was doing so in good faith, based on what he
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thought at the time. he doesn't think the rules and guidance were broken, because even things like leaving dos were reasonably necessary for work. under his interpretation of the guidance, that was ok. it will be for the committee now to go away and have a look at all of that and decide if it thinks mrjohnson's arguments stack up. remember, it is trying to figure out if misleading the house of commons was accidental, reckless or deliberate. that is what it is looking into now. it was a busy afternoon here yesterday. an interesting moment to put this out. rishi sunak�*s tax returns, something we have been waiting for four weeks. they dropped in the middle of boris johnson's committee session. a cynic would suggest they were trying to get that out at a time when everybody was distracted by something else. but let me quickly tell you, it shows us that rishi sunak earned about £45 million in income in the three years covered in
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this. he paid about £1 million in tax. there was a lot going on here yesterday. tax. there was a lot going on here esterda . , . , , tax. there was a lot going on here esterda . , , ., yesterday. this was “ust part of the sto . yesterday. this was 'ust part of the story. indeed. — yesterday. this was just part of the story. indeed. thanks, _ yesterday. this was just part of the story. indeed. thanks, nick. - we'll have more reaction to borisjohnson's evidence just after half past six. investigators are trying to work out what caused a ship to tip over in edinburgh, injuring 35 people, eight of whom remain in hospital. the research vessel petrel was in dry dock in leith when it became dislodged from its holding and slipped to a 45 degree angle. our scotland correspondent james shaw is there. good morning to you. this was a dramatic incident and a lot of people injured. is it any clearer what happened? an people injured. is it any clearer what happened? an extraordinary incident, charlie. _ what happened? an extraordinary incident, charlie. i'm _ what happened? an extraordinary incident, charlie. i'm not- what happened? an extraordinary incident, charlie. i'm not sure - what happened? an extraordinary incident, charlie. i'm not sure i i incident, charlie. i'm not sure i have ever heard of anything like this happening at the docks here in edinburgh. first of all, you can see the petrel, the research vessel belonging to the us navy. you can
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clearly see it is at a very steep angle, read about 45 degrees. you can see the name of it picked out in white on the bow, now. it has been in the dry dock in leith for about three years, laid up, not been used since the start of the covid crisis. it was a huge emergency at leith docks yesterday morning sometime between eight o'clock and 8:30am. workers reported hearing a loud noise. 0ne worker said he knew somebody working on the ship. they had gone for a toilet break. then the accident happened. when they came back they couldn't find their workmates. clearly a large number of people were working in and around the ship. as you say, we know that 35 people were injured. 23 taken to hospital. 12 treated at the scene.
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but it sounds as though there were people, a large number of people coming in and around the boat. some sort of work, possibly maintenance work, happening at the time. but how this extraordinary, unprecedented accident happened, that is something that investigators, health and safety executive investigators, will be trying to find out in the hours and days ahead.— be trying to find out in the hours and days ahead. a scottish parliamentary committee has found serious failings in the way a contract to build two ferries was awarded. among the problems identified by the panel was nicola sturgeon's decision to prematurely announce the shipyard, ferguson's, as the preferred bidder. the committee said taxpayers and island communities had been badly let down by the project. planned rail strikes in march and april have been called off. rmt union members, who work at 14 train companies, were set to walk out on thursday and friday of next week. the rail delivery group — which represents train companies — welcomed the move, and said
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it is now focused on working constructively towards a settlement. the head of the social media app tiktok is expected to give evidence to the us congress today over security concerns. shou zi chew is likely to face a barrage of questions on tiktok�*s relationship with the chinese state, what data it collects, and what it does with it. 0ur north america technology correspondent, james clayton has more. hi, everyone! it's shou here, i'm the ceo of tiktok. tiktok�*s boss usually keeps a low profile. but this week he published this tiktok ahead of a congressional hearing, where he'll be grilled by us politicians. he's decided to come out fighting. in that same video he claims that tiktok has 150 million users in the us. in a country where facebook is in decline, tiktok has seen exponential growth. but with that huge influence has come concern. this is the head of the fbi being quizzed earlier this month in congress.
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could they use tiktok to control data on millions of users? eh, yes. could they use it to control the software on millions of devices, given the opportunity to do so? yes. what's even more concerning for tiktok is it appears to have done the impossible — unite the democrats and the republicans. i think that this is going to be uncharted territory for him, and it will be really, really interesting to see whether he sinks or swims. i think that there is a real risk that if this hearing doesn't go well, that has a massive impact on the future of tiktok. whether you think tiktok is a security concern depends on who you ask. but what we do know is tiktok collects a lot of information. by its own admission, the company collects usage information, device information, your ip address. it can even collect biometric identifiers and biometric information, such as face prints and voice prints. some say, so what? instagram collects
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similar information. 0thers, though, say it's the link to china that's the problem. the concern is that if tiktok in the united states is sharing personal information with its parent company in china, that the chinese government could potentially either access this personal information, or use it to target propaganda to specific users, or in other potentially nefarious ways. but the problem with banning tiktok is we have not actually seen evidence of the chinese government accessing this information through tiktok. tiktok has found itself once again at the heart of a diplomatic battle between the us and china. when donald trump tried to ban the app in 2020, tiktok managed to survive. three years later, it's once again fighting for its future. and what happens today in congress may well help decide its fate. james clayton, bbc news. the prince of wales has visited british troops near the ukrainian border.
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prince william is on an official two—day visit to poland, which continues today when he meets the polish president. but his trip to meet the troops in the south—east was kept secret, for security reasons, until he was back in warsaw. ijust wanted to come here in person to say thank you for all that you're doing, keeping everyone safe out here, and keeping an eye on what's going on. so, just a big thank you for what you do on a day to day basis. i know some of you are coming to the end of your time out here, so looking forward to a bit of rnr when you get home. but you're doing a really importantjob out here, and defending ourfreedoms is really important and everyone back home thoroughly supports you. those are the main story is at 13 minutes past six. matt has got the weather. what a beautiful place that is behind you. it is. good morning. the west of scotland yesterday. a rainbow in the distance. a sign of showery conditions, which will have again today. another day of changeable
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weather. there will be sunshine, a few showers. another windy day, particularly across england and wales. not as windy today in scotland and northern ireland. temperatures are very similar to yesterday. may be a degree or down on what we saw yesterday. there is some rain around. some lively showers through the rac pushing into northern england. more persistent rain in the far north of scotland. it will drift northwards during the day. a few showers in the south. in between, drier weather. southern scotland could get away without seeing any showers. any downpours you see will be pushing along the sky quite quickly across england and wales. strong winds whipping up high seas. temperatures still in the high side for the stage in march. 13 to 15 or 16 degrees in many areas through this afternoon. through the afternoon into the evening rush hour, more persistent rain in the
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channel islands, southern counties of england, sliding towards east anglia. that could be further north into the south and east midlands too. a wet end to the day. showery elsewhere. a mixture of clear spells and showers tonight. especially in the northern half of the country. quieter further south. temperatures down a little bit on what we saw last night. slightly flashier tomorrow. —— slightly fresher. through the weekend we headed towards british summer time. for one or two of you, it will feel a bit more like a british wintertime. more in half an hour. that more like a british winter time. more in half an hour.— more like a british winter time. more in half an hour. that is not exactl a more in half an hour. that is not exactly a nice — more in half an hour. that is not exactly a nice nod _ more in half an hour. that is not exactly a nice nod to _ more in half an hour. that is not exactly a nice nod to finish - more in half an hour. that is not exactly a nice nod to finish on, | more in half an hour. that is not| exactly a nice nod to finish on, is it? it's spring, it? it' sspring yo , u it? it' 5 spring, you get it? it's spring, you get a little bit of everything, don't you?— it's spring, you get a little bit of everything, don't you? well, not winter. everything, don't you? well, not winter- just _ everything, don't you? well, not winter. just warning _ everything, don't you? well, not winter. just warning you. - everything, don't you? well, not winter. just warning you. just. winter. just warning you. just la in: winter. just warning you. just laying the _ winter. just warning you. just laying the ground. _ winter. just warning you. just laying the ground. we - winter. just warning you. just laying the ground. we have i winter. just warning you. just. laying the ground. we have been warned. thank _ laying the ground. we have been warned. thank you. _ we'll find out later if the bank of england plans to further increase the cost of borrowing, by rising interest rates from the current level of 4%.
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hannah can tell us more. we have had moves around the world, around the united states, european central bank, and also we had that inflation figure? yes, a lot of people would say, why make it harder for yes, a lot of people would say, why make it harderfor us? it is tough already. it's a tricky balancing act for the bank of england at the moment. last month they predicted that the rate at which prices are rising had peaked. but, of course, yesterday we learned that inflation unexpectedly rose to 10.4% in february, a near 40—year high. the spike was driven by soaring food prices, which are now rising quicker than at any time in the last 45 years. and it means the uk has the highest inflation of all the major economies in the so—called g7 — the only one still in double figures. now, in order to keep a lid on those prices, the bank of england often chooses to increase the cost of borrowing in order to discourage us all from spending. the current base rate is at 4% and it's gone up ten times in a row
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since december of 2021. economists had thought the bank might not put up the rate this time because of the recent turmoil that higher rates have caused in the banking sector, such as the collapse of the american silicon valley bank and its uk arm, as well as the takeover of credit suisse. but yesterday's inflation figures are likely to cause their monetary policy committee to think again. and higher interest rates could mean yet higher mortgage rates, rents — and more cost to pay off debt such as loans and credit cards. i visited a factory in the west midlands to find out if staff there are concerned. at this chemical factory in west bromwich, interest rates affect what many staff can afford. so, we've got reactors all down here. we've got one to four. and people like sam are waiting to see how the bank of england reacts as the cost of living continues to rise. it's a bad thing for anybody trying to sort of get on the property ladder.
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interest rates going up, i suppose it benefits those with all the savings. but for most young people sort of starting out in life, it seems to hit us the most. it is very difficult. we have to cut down the way we live. we can't go out as much as we used to. we can't have as many takeaways. we can't go to the attractions, or whatever, that we used to. it's definitely a hit on our sort of quality of life. by putting household budgets under even more pressure. the bank of england believes raising interest rates can bring prices down. but for people like melissa, who's already in debt, it could make paying that off even more expensive. obviously, i have an overdraft where that is what i reach now into every month. i discuss it with my partner regularly, like, how are we going to get out of this rut ofjust cycling around debt? how would you feel if interest rates do go up again? it's just prolonging that cycle. like... yeah, i...
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but also at this point, i wouldn't be shocked because there is nothing out there giving me hope. so to go up again, it'sjust another slap in the face, really. her colleague, aidan, is more hopeful. it'll definitely come to an end. the question more is when it will come to an end. - i'm quite hopeful that right now it's at its worst. - i think it'll definitely get better. it's just a matter of when, really. and with gas and oil costs having driven inflation over the past year, the boss here believes there's really one thing the government should focus on. energy, energy, energy. yes, we protect it. so, we bought ahead our energy from 2019 to 2023, september. it's currently about 1.6, 1.7 million, there or thereabouts. when we come off of that, it goes up to between three and five million, depending on who quotes us. that is a significant increase in our costs. so i think the government really has to look again
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at supporting smes like ourselves in terms of the energy. today, the focus will be on how to balance people's different needs, as the bank of england works out how best to bring down prices without eroding the economy further. it's worth mentioning as well that the federal reserve in the us, they were facing a similar dilemma to here in the uk — trying to find that balance between curbing inflation and not creating tension in the financial sector — and they did decide to put up interest rates again yesterday, and fairly often what happens over there also happens here later. we'll get that rates decision at midday but in the meantime you can find out more about how changes to interest rates will affect you. that's on our website at bbc.co.uk? news, where you will find a section called cost of living: tackling it together. worth saying, charlie and naga, the bank of england have been putting up
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these rights since december 2021. a lot of people feeling it in their pockets. but the effect on the economy will probably see —— take time to come through. we will only see that in the next few months. thank you. let's have a look at today's papers. and many of the front pages lead with borisjohnson's three—hour session at the privileges committee, where mps are investigating whether he deliberately misled parliament over lockdown gatherings in downing street. the telegraph describes mrjohnson as defiant, and says the former prime minister dismissed allegations against him as "complete nonsense". �*flimsy partygate answers leave johnson on the brink�* — that's how the guardian reports it, adding that he could be formally reprimanded if found to have recklessly misled parliament. the sun instead chooses to lead with prince william's visit to poland, where he met british troops close to the border with ukraine. the prince told them they were "defending our freedoms" from putin's russia, according to the paper. and one of the most read stories on the bbc news website this morning features the us court case involving gwyneth paltrow.
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the hollywood star is being sued by a retired eye doctor over a skiing collision in 2016. the actress is counter—suing the doctor in a trial expected to last until next week. just on the inside pages, this page, you will probably see the picture they are, which is not what i am talking about. the us president giving bruce springsteen the national medal of arts at the white house. this is about by gets. —— bag wet. a lot of people want it, what the beggars say, undercooked. they can put them in the open and warm them up? no, when people buy them from the shop, a lot of people are asking... they blame the us for this. in america they like their white bread do we. traditionally, they say,
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french baguettes are crisper. there is a big row going on. the issue emerged last month when sebastian thomas, a television news anchor, tweeted a photograph of a well cooked by get next to an undercooked one. 0k? he was on tv. he sent out this tweet. he said the well cooked one was obviously much better. he said he was prepared to fight a duel with anyone who thought otherwise. that's dedication, isn't it? apparently it gives you flatulence to eat undercooked baguettes. nutritionists say that is fact. undercooked food is not good. 23 minutes past six. if you're a regular breakfast viewer you'll know we've been following the work of mark king, who has spent the last 11 years getting heart defibrillators installed in schools, in memory of his son 0liver, who died of a cardiac arrest aged just 12. this week mark returned to one primary school where his foundation had already
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fitted a defibrillator, and it was for a very special assembly. the children had gathered to welcome back their headteacher nick sheeran, seven months after he suffered a heart attack in school. his life was saved by some quick—thinking colleagues and, of course, the defibrillator. breakfast�*s john maguire reports. good morning, everybody. good morning. there's a special assembly at birkdale primary school this morning. but what the children don't know is just how special. my 0llie was a keen and a talented sportsman, and he had an uncompromising zest for life. they're listening to mark king. he travels the length and breadth of the uk to tell schools about his son 0liver, who died of a sudden cardiac arrest when he was just 12 years old. very emotional seeing the kids. when i do assembly with all the kids, ijust see 0llie's face in there. you know, and it's...
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mark's been here before, ten years ago. the school was impressed. and since then, he has raised money to buy four defibrillators that, in an emergency, could shock the heart and save a life. the headteacher decided the machines could help to protect his pupils. but on the last day of term, last summer, it was the head himself who collapsed. he survived, but has been off work ever since. until today. cheering hello! applause so, you're pleased to see me then? yes! i am so pleased to see you all of you. it's been a long time.
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i was very overwhelmed by seeing them for the first time. you start homing in on familiar faces i've not seen for several, several months. start feeling for the children, and, you know, it all kicks in, the reality of it all, how lucky i am to be here, and the reasons for me being here. the 0liver king foundation provides notjust the machines, but also training for staff. when mr sheeran suffered his cardiac arrest, colleagues started first aid and were using one of the defibrillators in just 32 seconds. i think if you'd have asked me . several years ago, "do you think you'd ever be able to do chest - compressions on someone and use a defib?", i'd have probably gone, i "oh, no, i'm not one of those people that could step up and do that." but actually, something happens. i don't know what it is, - but something just happens. there was a sense of positiveness about the whole situation. there was no negative. there was no, what's going to happen? it was all very positive. you know, this is what we do,
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these are the roles we've got. we'll carry this out and the outcome will be positive. and then it's only afterwards that you realise the gravity of the whole situation. emotional seeing him for the first time, - because we have supported one - another throughout, and then he come in and he's back to his usual self of, "yeah, here i am!" - and it was nice to see _ the children's reaction, wasn't it? it was. they've missed him. nick is number 68. that's the number of people who've been successfully treated with the foundation's defibrillators. i'm the luckiest headteacher on the planet, really, and so grateful to everyone and the part that they played in saving my life and allowing me to be back in school today for the first time in months and months. i'm all raring to go. much more chilled than i used to be. i'm certainly not going to worry as much about things really. really, really ecstatic that our debit that was there,
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that we trained the staff on, was used to save his life. the kids love him, obviously. we've seen them in the hall, all welcoming him back. he's been well missed, because he's a massive personality in this school, and everywhere he goes, probably. just like our 0llie. 0llie was like a ripple. wherever he went, people just warmed to him. nick has got the same personality. 100%. i love him to bits. rock music plays the return of the headteacher also means the return of the staff band abcd, and they're saluting this week's star of the week, mark king. his foundation has placed more than 6,000 defibrillators in schools. and following his campaign, the government's pledge to put machines into all schools in england by the summer. it's hoped they won't be needed, but if that need arises, they'll be there, ready for deployment,
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ready to save precious lives. john maguire, bbc news birkdale, near southport. ican i can only imagine how emotional that was. that reunion. and how loved is mark for doing what he did? then you have got nick, completely loved by his pupils. absolutely. lucky has had a teacher in the world. we have met mark a number of times on this programme. —— luckiest head teacher. we are always asking what success would be for him. it isjust always asking what success would be for him. it is just that. now, how do you feel about a noise like this. snoring is that supposed to be snoring? do we know who that was? is it someone involved in this programme? it is a generic snow, is it? ——
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snoring. do you find it mildly annoying, or does it trigger a stronger reaction? if it makes you angry, disgusted or even panicked, then you might have a condition called misophonia, which afflicts around one in five of us, according to a new study. we'll speak to one of the researchers at ten to nine. it is not just it is notjust snoring. it is everyday noises that people make that you find disproportionately annoying or anything like that. that could be one of them. loud breathing, chewing, perhaps it affects you. you can tweet us, or email, and you can now send us a message on whatsapp — the number is 0330123 0440, orjust scan the qr code with your phone's camera. don't forget to tell us your name and where you're from. are we asking for examples of the noise? do we have the means by which
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we could hear the noise? they can send a message on what's up. we don't need to hear it. just tell us. it makes it interesting, albeit more revolting. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello. good morning from bbc london. i'm victoria hollins. the nhs is to start a new polio vaccination campaign in london schools for under 115 over fears that uptake is still lagging behind the rest of the country. the most recent tests last detected the virus in sewage in early november but in lesser quantities than in the first part of 2022. health officials believe the spread of poliovirus may have slowed down but say there's no room for complacency. what we're trying to do now that we have less polio virus in the sewage is to target those children who remain unvaccinated. we really don't want to have a case of paralysis. even one case would be a real tragedy. because it's completely preventable with vaccination. so the nhs will be reaching out
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to parents of children aged one to 11 in london and asking them to come forward and catch their children up. it's been three years since the first lockdown. in that time, the way many of us work and shop has completely changed. data from the 0ns shows londoners have the highest levels of hybrid working of anywhere in great britain now — four in 10 workers reported both working from home and travelling to work. 19% said they work at home only. but this is having an affect on businesses based near offices. the footfall has, like, shrunk than it was before. however, we have a good presence on google, so people still come in and they still come and purchase from us, so it's gone down slightly, but then in other areas like online, that's picked up. there are plans for 10,000 electric chanrging points to be installed across surrey over the next seven years. the scheme by surrey county council and charge point provider connected kerb
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is expected to cost £60 million and will be met by the company which will charge users. the council aims to be a carbon net—zero county by 2050 and says electric vehicles are a big part of that. let's take a look at the tubes now. good news on the tube as all lines are running a good service. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's a dry and bright star this morning with some sunshine but it's going to be another unsettled day with some heavy, blustery showers. low pressure to the west of the uk driving the fronts through. it will be a windy day with the wind gusting up to 40 mph, so dry for many to start but the showers quick to arrive, blowing on on the south—westerly wind. still some sunny spells but through the afternoon heavier, more persistent rain from the south but temperatures still reaching 14 celsius. a wet evening but the rain will clear away post midnight, dry with clear skies,
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so temperatures dropping to five or six celsius. tomorrow morning, it will be another bright start with some sunshine, but another unsettled day on the cards. we will see further showers, fronts coming in from the south—west, still breezy for friday and it will stay and settled will stay unsettled into the weekend for saturday and a cold day for sunday and a northerly flow means temperatures dropping especially overnight, sunday into monday, where we are likely to wake up to a frost on monday morning. that's it. have a look at our website for all the latest news or the bbc news app. we're back in half an hour. bye. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. westminster saw a return yesterday to a familiar topic — the "parties", or "gatherings" or "work events" which were held at downing street during the covid pandemic — and whether the then prime minister borisjohnson knew they breached lockdown rules. he was questioned for three hours by a committee of mps, often whilst being shown
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images of himself surrounded by colleagues during events he defended as "essential". we're joined now by the founder of conservative home, tim montgomerie along with hannah brady, from covid—19 bereaved families forjustice. i'm going to start with you, hannah, if we may. you're one of the many people who lost a loved one during the pandemic. did you listen yesterday, and if so, how was that for you? i yesterday, and if so, how was that for ou? , , , ., for you? i did listen yesterday and i found i could _ for you? i did listen yesterday and i found i could not _ for you? i did listen yesterday and i found i could not help _ for you? i did listen yesterday and i found i could not help but - for you? i did listen yesterday and i found i could not help but switch| i found i could not help but switch it on _ i found i could not help but switch it on i've — i found i could not help but switch it on. i've been trying to move on from _ it on. i've been trying to move on from what — it on. i've been trying to move on from what happened in may 2022 me and my— from what happened in may 2022 me and my family and when my dad passed away from _ and my family and when my dad passed away from covid but to have a key being _ away from covid but to have a key being brought up because of boris johnson's — being brought up because of boris johnson's continued trying to cling to some _
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johnson's continued trying to cling to some sort of power is really, really _ to some sort of power is really, really painful and the things i thought— really painful and the things i thought i had moved on from came to the surface _ thought i had moved on from came to the surface yesterday for me. like what? the — the surface yesterday for me. like what? the sense _ the surface yesterday for me. like what? the sense of— the surface yesterday for me. like what? the sense of injustice, - the surface yesterday for me. like what? the sense of injustice, the | what? the sense of in'ustice, the sense what? the sense of in'ustice, the that — what? the sense of in'ustice, the sense that while _ what? the sense of in'ustice, the sense that while we _ what? the sense of injustice, the sense that while we were - what? the sense of injustice, the sense that while we were doing l what? the sense of injustice, the l sense that while we were doing our utmost_ sense that while we were doing our utmost to _ sense that while we were doing our utmost to keep people safe to the point _ utmost to keep people safe to the point where we had nine people at an outdoor— point where we had nine people at an outdoor funeral in the rain for my dad, _ outdoor funeral in the rain for my dad. and — outdoor funeral in the rain for my dad. and i— outdoor funeral in the rain for my dad, and i felt it was myjob as a daughter— dad, and i felt it was myjob as a daughter to _ dad, and i felt it was myjob as a daughter to be able to prepare him for his_ daughter to be able to prepare him for his funeral, put him in the close — for his funeral, put him in the close that _ for his funeral, put him in the close that we wanted. he was in a closed _ close that we wanted. he was in a closed coffin in a hazardous waste ba l closed coffin in a hazardous waste hag we _ closed coffin in a hazardous waste bag we were told, so to them here boris _ bag we were told, so to them here borisjohnson said he felt it was his borisjohnson said he felt it was hisjoh — borisjohnson said he felt it was hisjoh to— borisjohnson said he felt it was hisjob to say borisjohnson said he felt it was his job to say goodbye to colleagues leaving _ his job to say goodbye to colleagues leaving with gatherings, let's call them, _ leaving with gatherings, let's call them, was really deeply offensive. how were — them, was really deeply offensive. how were you able to say goodbye to your father in hospital? how were you able to say goodbye to yourfather in hospital? taste how were you able to say goodbye to your father in hospital?— your father in hospital? we were ermitted your father in hospital? we were permitted into _ your father in hospital? we were permitted into intensive - your father in hospital? we were permitted into intensive care - your father in hospital? we were permitted into intensive care on| your father in hospital? we were i permitted into intensive care on the night _ permitted into intensive care on the night they— permitted into intensive care on the night they were going to turn his oxygen— night they were going to turn his oxygen down and we were given a full ppe on_ oxygen down and we were given a full ppe on the _ oxygen down and we were given a full ppe on the understanding that we could _ ppe on the understanding that we could not— ppe on the understanding that we could not touch him. he had not known _ could not touch him. he had not
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known actual human touch apart from ppe since _ known actual human touch apart from ppe since his birthday on the 17th of march — ppe since his birthday on the 17th of march when he turned 55. it was such a _ of march when he turned 55. it was such a shock — of march when he turned 55. it was such a shock to see a fit and healthy— such a shock to see a fit and healthy man reduced to this sort of unconscious thing in a bed that i did not— unconscious thing in a bed that i did not recognise any more as my dad~ _ did not recognise any more as my dad~ he _ did not recognise any more as my dad~ he had — did not recognise any more as my dad. he had lost so much weight. it was probably the most traumatic thing _ was probably the most traumatic thing about me and my sister will ever go— thing about me and my sister will ever go through. i�*m thing about me and my sister will ever go through.— thing about me and my sister will ever go through. i'm sure it doesn't aet an ever go through. i'm sure it doesn't get any easier _ ever go through. i'm sure it doesn't get any easier to — ever go through. i'm sure it doesn't get any easier to go _ ever go through. i'm sure it doesn't get any easier to go through - ever go through. i'm sure it doesn't get any easier to go through those l get any easier to go through those moments and we appreciate you doing that. in terms of some of the specifics and the bits you know about, there was a lot of attention on the parties or gathering that took place in the garden at number 10 downing street, something people will be familiar with because the reporting on it. it's a place you've actually been to, isn't it?- reporting on it. it's a place you've actually been to, isn't it? yes, our camaian actually been to, isn't it? yes, our campaign group — actually been to, isn't it? yes, our campaign group met _ actually been to, isn't it? yes, our campaign group met boris - actually been to, isn't it? yes, ouri campaign group met boris johnson actually been to, isn't it? yes, our. campaign group met boris johnson in campaign group met borisjohnson in that garden in september 2021 and it was suggested as an outdoor meeting place because we didn't want to meet inside _ place because we didn't want to meet inside. there was quite high covid
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rates _ inside. there was quite high covid rates at _ inside. there was quite high covid rates at the — inside. there was quite high covid rates at the time. i remember walking — rates at the time. i remember walking through downing street and we were _ walking through downing street and we were in masks, trying to keep a social— we were in masks, trying to keep a social distance and there was little to none _ social distance and there was little to none of— social distance and there was little to none of that that we saw in downing — to none of that that we saw in downing street, even in wide areas like staircases. when we got outside. _ like staircases. when we got outside. i_ like staircases. when we got outside, i neverthought like staircases. when we got outside, i never thought i would be sat here _ outside, i never thought i would be sat here thinking that the place we had met— sat here thinking that the place we had met borisjohnson as bereaved people _ had met borisjohnson as bereaved people to _ had met borisjohnson as bereaved people to covid, told our loved ones stories. _ people to covid, told our loved ones stories, shared images we've never shared _ stories, shared images we've never shared with— stories, shared images we've never shared with anybody, was actually the place — shared with anybody, was actually the place that four days after my dad died. — the place that four days after my dad died, on the day we were signing his death _ dad died, on the day we were signing his death certificate, the place that borisjohnson had his cheese and wine, — that borisjohnson had his cheese and wine, it never occurred to us that— and wine, it never occurred to us that such — and wine, it never occurred to us that such a — and wine, it never occurred to us that such a cruel could be done that he would _ that such a cruel could be done that he would suggest meeting in a place that he _ he would suggest meeting in a place that he knew he had had a gathering at. , ., ., ., ., that he knew he had had a gathering at. tim, you have heard what hannah said there. — at. tim, you have heard what hannah said there, and _ at. tim, you have heard what hannah said there, and i _ at. tim, you have heard what hannah said there, and i think— at. tim, you have heard what hannah said there, and i think there - at. tim, you have heard what hannah said there, and i think there will - said there, and i think there will be many people in the country who have had similar awful experiences and have this emotion and this
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reaction to how borisjohnson presented himself to that committee yesterday. in your opinion, how do you think he came across? did he, first, come across as sympathetic so people like hannah who were listening could see that, and did he come across as believable? good mornin: , come across as believable? good morning. and _ come across as believable? good morning, and first _ come across as believable? good morning, and first of _ come across as believable? good morning, and first of all - come across as believable? good morning, and first of all my - come across as believable? good morning, and first of all my deepest consolations — morning, and first of all my deepest consolations to— morning, and first of all my deepest consolations to hannah. _ morning, and first of all my deepest consolations to hannah. it's - consolations to hannah. it's horrible _ consolations to hannah. it's horrible to _ consolations to hannah. it's horrible to hear— consolations to hannah. it's horrible to hear a _ consolations to hannah. it's horrible to hear a story- consolations to hannah. it'si horrible to hear a story about consolations to hannah. it's - horrible to hear a story about how she had _ horrible to hear a story about how she had to — horrible to hear a story about how she had to say— horrible to hear a story about how she had to say goodbye _ horrible to hear a story about how she had to say goodbye so - she had to say goodbye so inadequately— she had to say goodbye so inadequately by— she had to say goodbye so inadequately by normal. she had to say goodbye so - inadequately by normal standards to her father _ inadequately by normal standards to her father i— inadequately by normal standards to her father. i don't _ inadequately by normal standards to her father. idon't think— inadequately by normal standards to her father. idon't think boris- her father. i don't think boris johnson _ her father. i don't think boris johnson came _ her father. i don't think boris johnson came across - her father. i don't think boris johnson came across well, i johnson came across well, unfortunately, _ johnson came across well, unfortunately, yesterday, i johnson came across well, i unfortunately, yesterday, at johnson came across well, - unfortunately, yesterday, at all. i think— unfortunately, yesterday, at all. i think he _ unfortunately, yesterday, at all. i think he had _ unfortunately, yesterday, at all. i think he had convinced _ unfortunately, yesterday, at all. i think he had convinced himself, l unfortunately, yesterday, at all. i. think he had convinced himself, and ithink— think he had convinced himself, and i think honestly, _ think he had convinced himself, and i think honestly, to _ think he had convinced himself, and i think honestly, to himself, - think he had convinced himself, and i think honestly, to himself, that. i think honestly, to himself, that he was _ i think honestly, to himself, that he was wrong, _ i think honestly, to himself, that he was wrong, that _ i think honestly, to himself, that he was wrong, that he _ i think honestly, to himself, that he was wrong, that he did - i think honestly, to himself, thati he was wrong, that he did behave well in _ he was wrong, that he did behave well in the — he was wrong, that he did behave well in the time _ he was wrong, that he did behave well in the time he _ he was wrong, that he did behave well in the time he was _ he was wrong, that he did behave well in the time he was in - he was wrong, that he did behavel well in the time he was in downing street— well in the time he was in downing street and — well in the time he was in downing street and i— well in the time he was in downing street and i felt _ well in the time he was in downing street and i felt he _ well in the time he was in downing street and i felt he came - well in the time he was in downing street and i felt he came to- well in the time he was in downing street and i felt he came to the . street and i felt he came to the committee _ street and i felt he came to the committee yesterday— street and i felt he came to the committee yesterday with - street and i felt he came to the committee yesterday with him i street and i felt he came to the - committee yesterday with him feeling a sense _ committee yesterday with him feeling a sense of— committee yesterday with him feeling a sense of injustice _ committee yesterday with him feeling a sense of injustice and _ committee yesterday with him feeling a sense of injustice and some - committee yesterday with him feeling a sense of injustice and some of- committee yesterday with him feeling a sense of injustice and some of the l a sense of injustice and some of the questions _ a sense of injustice and some of the questions he — a sense of injustice and some of the questions he took, _ a sense of injustice and some of the questions he took, vertically- a sense of injustice and some of the questions he took, vertically from . questions he took, vertically from conservative _ questions he took, vertically from conservative mps, _ questions he took, vertically from conservative mps, seemed - questions he took, vertically from conservative mps, seemed to -
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questions he took, vertically from . conservative mps, seemed to really -et conservative mps, seemed to really get under— conservative mps, seemed to really get under his — conservative mps, seemed to really get under his skin _ conservative mps, seemed to really get under his skin and _ conservative mps, seemed to really get under his skin and rather- conservative mps, seemed to really get under his skin and rather than . get under his skin and rather than perhaps— get under his skin and rather than perhaps being _ get under his skin and rather than perhaps being the _ get under his skin and rather than perhaps being the sympathetic. perhaps being the sympathetic character — perhaps being the sympathetic character that _ perhaps being the sympathetic character that would _ perhaps being the sympathetic character that would have - perhaps being the sympathetic| character that would have been persuasive _ character that would have been persuasive for _ character that would have been persuasive for the _ character that would have been persuasive for the country, - character that would have been persuasive for the country, hel character that would have been - persuasive for the country, he came over as _ persuasive for the country, he came over as quite — persuasive for the country, he came over as quite prickly— persuasive for the country, he came over as quite prickly at _ persuasive for the country, he came over as quite prickly at times - over as quite prickly at times yesterday _ over as quite prickly at times yesterday. and _ over as quite prickly at times yesterday. and i— over as quite prickly at times yesterday. and i don't - over as quite prickly at times yesterday. and i don't think. over as quite prickly at times . yesterday. and i don't think that will have — yesterday. and i don't think that will have helped _ yesterday. and i don't think that will have helped his— yesterday. and i don't think that will have helped his cause - yesterday. and i don't think that will have helped his cause when| yesterday. and i don't think that . will have helped his cause when the committee — will have helped his cause when the committee decides _ will have helped his cause when the committee decides to _ will have helped his cause when the committee decides to make - will have helped his cause when the committee decides to make its - committee decides to make its judgment — committee decides to make its judgment on _ committee decides to make its judgment on his— committee decides to make its judgment on his time - committee decides to make its judgment on his time in- committee decides to make itsi judgment on his time in number committee decides to make its - judgment on his time in number 10 downing _ judgment on his time in number 10 downing street _ judgment on his time in number 10 downing street. you— judgment on his time in number 10 downing street.— judgment on his time in number 10 downin: street. ., ., ~' downing street. you worked with him. what reflections _ downing street. you worked with him. what reflections do _ downing street. you worked with him. what reflections do you _ downing street. you worked with him. what reflections do you have - downing street. you worked with him. what reflections do you have when - what reflections do you have when you looked at how prepared he was, and as you say, there were some prickly moments where perhaps he felt more under attack and under scrutiny. felt more under attack and under scrutin . , ~ scrutiny. yes, i think the thing we really learned _ scrutiny. yes, i think the thing we really learned yesterday, - scrutiny. yes, i think the thing we really learned yesterday, and - scrutiny. yes, i think the thing we really learned yesterday, and i . really learned yesterday, and i don't _ really learned yesterday, and i don't know _ really learned yesterday, and i don't know whether _ really learned yesterday, and i don't know whether you - really learned yesterday, and i don't know whether you would| really learned yesterday, and i- don't know whether you would agree with this, _ don't know whether you would agree with this, when _ don't know whether you would agree with this, when he _ don't know whether you would agree with this, when he made _ don't know whether you would agree with this, when he made his- with this, when he made his statements— with this, when he made his statements to _ with this, when he made his statements to the _ with this, when he made his statements to the house . with this, when he made his statements to the house of| with this, when he made his- statements to the house of commons at the _ statements to the house of commons at the time _ statements to the house of commons at the time he— statements to the house of commons at the time, he certainly— statements to the house of commons at the time, he certainly gave - statements to the house of commons at the time, he certainly gave the - at the time, he certainly gave the impression — at the time, he certainly gave the impression he _ at the time, he certainly gave the impression he had _ at the time, he certainly gave the impression he had received - at the time, he certainly gave the i impression he had received advice, inclusive _ impression he had received advice, inclusive advice _ impression he had received advice, inclusive advice that _ impression he had received advice, inclusive advice that he _ impression he had received advice, inclusive advice that he had - impression he had received advice, i inclusive advice that he had behaved according _ inclusive advice that he had behaved according to — inclusive advice that he had behaved according to the _ inclusive advice that he had behaved according to the rules. _ inclusive advice that he had behaved according to the rules. now, - inclusive advice that he had behaved according to the rules. now, i- inclusive advice that he had behaved according to the rules. now, i wouldi according to the rules. now, i would have assumed. _ according to the rules. now, i would have assumed, and _ according to the rules. now, i would have assumed, and i— according to the rules. now, i would have assumed, and i think— according to the rules. now, i would have assumed, and i think most- have assumed, and i think most people — have assumed, and i think most people of— have assumed, and i think most people of fair— have assumed, and i think most people of fairjudgment - have assumed, and i think most people of fairjudgment would . have assumed, and i think most. people of fairjudgment would have
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assumed _ people of fairjudgment would have assumed that — people of fairjudgment would have assumed that that _ people of fairjudgment would have assumed that that would _ people of fairjudgment would have assumed that that would have - people of fairjudgment would have i assumed that that would have meant civil servants, — assumed that that would have meant civil servants, independent _ assumed that that would have meant civil servants, independent people i civil servants, independent people who work — civil servants, independent people who work in — civil servants, independent people who work in downing _ civil servants, independent people who work in downing street - civil servants, independent people| who work in downing street whose professional— who work in downing street whose professionaljudgment_ who work in downing street whose professionaljudgment had - who work in downing street whose professionaljudgment had come i who work in downing street whosel professionaljudgment had come to the view— professionaljudgment had come to the view that — professionaljudgment had come to the view that he _ professionaljudgment had come to the view that he had _ professionaljudgment had come to the view that he had behaved - professionaljudgment had come to| the view that he had behaved within the view that he had behaved within the rules _ the view that he had behaved within the rules. what _ the view that he had behaved within the rules. what we _ the view that he had behaved within the rules. what we learned - the view that he had behaved within. the rules. what we learned yesterday in evidence _ the rules. what we learned yesterday in evidence that _ the rules. what we learned yesterday in evidence that the _ the rules. what we learned yesterday in evidence that the committee - in evidence that the committee published — in evidence that the committee published in _ in evidence that the committee published in the _ in evidence that the committee published in the morning - in evidence that the committee published in the morning and l in evidence that the committee - published in the morning and during the questioning _ published in the morning and during the questioning was _ published in the morning and during the questioning was that _ published in the morning and during the questioning was that no - published in the morning and during the questioning was that no civil- the questioning was that no civil servants— the questioning was that no civil servants had _ the questioning was that no civil servants had given _ the questioning was that no civil servants had given him - the questioning was that no civil servants had given him that- the questioning was that no civil. servants had given him that advice that he _ servants had given him that advice that he had — servants had given him that advice that he had been— servants had given him that advice that he had been within _ servants had given him that advice that he had been within the - servants had given him that advice that he had been within the rules. | that he had been within the rules. what _ that he had been within the rules. what he _ that he had been within the rules. what he seemed _ that he had been within the rules. what he seemed to _ that he had been within the rules. what he seemed to be _ that he had been within the rules. what he seemed to be relying - that he had been within the rules. what he seemed to be relying onl that he had been within the rules. . what he seemed to be relying on was the advice _ what he seemed to be relying on was the advice of— what he seemed to be relying on was the advice of a — what he seemed to be relying on was the advice of a few— what he seemed to be relying on was the advice of a few political— the advice of a few political appointments, _ the advice of a few political appointments, people - the advice of a few political appointments, people who| the advice of a few political. appointments, people who he the advice of a few political- appointments, people who he has known _ appointments, people who he has known for— appointments, people who he has known for a — appointments, people who he has known for a while _ appointments, people who he has known for a while in _ appointments, people who he has known for a while in a _ appointments, people who he has known for a while in a political - known for a while in a political capacity. — known for a while in a political capacity, rather— known for a while in a political capacity, rather than- known for a while in a political capacity, rather than those - known for a while in a politicall capacity, rather than those civil servants, — capacity, rather than those civil servants, and _ capacity, rather than those civil servants, and i— capacity, rather than those civil servants, and i think— capacity, rather than those civil servants, and i think that- capacity, rather than those civil servants, and i think that will. capacity, rather than those civil. servants, and i think that will have hurt him _ servants, and i think that will have hurt him as— servants, and i think that will have hurt him as well— servants, and i think that will have hurt him as well because - servants, and i think that will have hurt him as well because what - servants, and i think that will have hurt him as well because what the | hurt him as well because what the committee — hurt him as well because what the committee are _ hurt him as well because what the committee are looking _ hurt him as well because what the committee are looking for- hurt him as well because what the committee are looking for is - hurt him as well because what the committee are looking for is not i committee are looking for is not that he — committee are looking for is not that he misled _ committee are looking for is not that he misled the _ committee are looking for is not that he misled the house - committee are looking for is not that he misled the house of- committee are looking for is not - that he misled the house of commons. that is— that he misled the house of commons. that is established. _ that he misled the house of commons. that is established. it's _ that he misled the house of commons. that is established. it's whether- that he misled the house of commons. that is established. it's whether he - that is established. it's whether he intentionally— that is established. it's whether he intentionally or— that is established. it's whether he intentionally or recklessly - that is established. it's whether he intentionally or recklessly misled . intentionally or recklessly misled the house — intentionally or recklessly misled the house of— intentionally or recklessly misled the house of commons. - intentionally or recklessly misled the house of commons. and - intentionally or recklessly misled the house of commons. and i. intentionally or recklessly misled . the house of commons. and i think the house of commons. and i think the way— the house of commons. and i think the way he — the house of commons. and i think the way he suggested _ the house of commons. and i think the way he suggested that - the house of commons. and i think the way he suggested that he - the house of commons. and i think the way he suggested that he had i the way he suggested that he had been reassured _ the way he suggested that he had been reassured that _ the way he suggested that he had been reassured that he _ the way he suggested that he had been reassured that he was - the way he suggested that he had| been reassured that he was within the guidance _ been reassured that he was within the guidance, that's— been reassured that he was within the guidance, that's the _ been reassured that he was within the guidance, that's the problem. | the guidance, that's the problem. just a _ the guidance, that's the problem.
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just a quick— the guidance, that's the problem. just a quick thought _ the guidance, that's the problem. just a quick thought on _ the guidance, that's the problem. just a quick thought on this - the guidance, that's the problem. just a quick thought on this one. i the guidance, that's the problem. i just a quick thought on this one. as you say, borisjohnson came in a very, very clear in his own mind that the inquiry had no evidence upon which to base the case. do you think something emerged during that three—hour sequence that was evidence? do you think that has become clear now in a way it wasn't before? i become clear now in a way it wasn't before? ~ , , before? i think this is the thing that boris johnson _ before? i think this is the thing that boris johnson will- before? i think this is the thing that boris johnson will rely - before? i think this is the thing that boris johnson will rely on. | that boris johnson will rely on. there — that boris johnson will rely on. there wasn't _ that boris johnson will rely on. there wasn't a _ that boris johnson will rely on. there wasn't a smoking - that boris johnson will rely on. there wasn't a smoking gun, i that boris johnson will rely on. there wasn't a smoking gun, if that boris johnson will rely on. - there wasn't a smoking gun, if you like _ there wasn't a smoking gun, if you like there — there wasn't a smoking gun, if you like. there wasn't _ there wasn't a smoking gun, if you like. there wasn't a _ there wasn't a smoking gun, if you like. there wasn't a real— there wasn't a smoking gun, if you like. there wasn't a real new - there wasn't a smoking gun, if you like. there wasn't a real new piece | like. there wasn't a real new piece of evidence — like. there wasn't a real new piece of evidence that _ like. there wasn't a real new piece of evidence that would _ like. there wasn't a real new piece of evidence that would absolutelyl of evidence that would absolutely damn _ of evidence that would absolutely damn him. — of evidence that would absolutely damn him. but _ of evidence that would absolutely damn him, but one _ of evidence that would absolutely damn him, but one of— of evidence that would absolutely damn him, but one of the - of evidence that would absolutely - damn him, but one of the committee members. _ damn him, but one of the committee members. sir— damn him, but one of the committee members, sir bernard _ damn him, but one of the committee members, sir bernard jenkin - damn him, but one of the committee members, sir bernard jenkin asked i members, sir bernard jenkin asked him why— members, sir bernard jenkin asked him why he — members, sir bernard jenkin asked him why he had _ members, sir bernard jenkin asked him why he had not— members, sir bernard jenkin asked him why he had not sought - members, sir bernard jenkin asked him why he had not sought legal. him why he had not sought legal advice _ him why he had not sought legal advice or— him why he had not sought legal advice or something _ him why he had not sought legali advice or something authoritative before _ advice or something authoritative before he — advice or something authoritative before he spoke _ advice or something authoritative before he spoke to _ advice or something authoritative before he spoke to the _ advice or something authoritative before he spoke to the houses. advice or something authoritative before he spoke to the houses ofi before he spoke to the houses of parliament— before he spoke to the houses of parliament and _ before he spoke to the houses of parliament and sir— before he spoke to the houses of parliament and sir bernard - before he spoke to the houses of parliament and sir bernard said i parliament and sir bernard said that's— parliament and sir bernard said that's what— parliament and sir bernard said that's what i_ parliament and sir bernard said that's what i would _ parliament and sir bernard said that's what i would have - parliament and sir bernard said that's what i would have done i parliament and sir bernard saidi that's what i would have done if parliament and sir bernard said i that's what i would have done if i knew _ that's what i would have done if i knew i_ that's what i would have done if i knew i was— that's what i would have done if i knew i was speaking _ that's what i would have done if i knew i was speaking on - that's what i would have done if i knew i was speaking on a - that's what i would have done if i knew i was speaking on a matter| that's what i would have done if i . knew i was speaking on a matter of such gravity. — knew i was speaking on a matter of such gravity. and _ knew i was speaking on a matter of such gravity, and i— knew i was speaking on a matter of such gravity, and i think— knew i was speaking on a matter of such gravity, and i think that's - such gravity, and i think that's where — such gravity, and i think that's where boris _ such gravity, and i think that's where borisjohnson _ such gravity, and i think that's where borisjohnson is - such gravity, and i think that's where borisjohnson is in - such gravity, and i think that's . where borisjohnson is in trouble for behaving _ where borisjohnson is in trouble for behaving recklessly. - where borisjohnson is in trouble for behaving recklessly. you - where borisjohnson is in troublel for behaving recklessly. you can't appear— for behaving recklessly. you can't appear into — for behaving recklessly. you can't appear into somebody's - for behaving recklessly. you can't appear into somebody's soul - for behaving recklessly. you can't appear into somebody's soul and | appear into somebody's soul and absolutely — appear into somebody's soul and absolutely know _ appear into somebody's soul and absolutely know that _ appear into somebody's soul and absolutely know that they - absolutely know that they deliberately— absolutely know that they deliberately misled, - 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can say— deliberately misled, but i think you can say he — deliberately misled, but i think you can say he probably _ deliberately misled, but i think you can say he probably behaved - can say he probably behaved recklessly— can say he probably behaved recklessly by— can say he probably behaved recklessly by not _ can say he probably behaved recklessly by not trying - can say he probably behaved recklessly by not trying to i can say he probably behaved . recklessly by not trying to seek can say he probably behaved - recklessly by not trying to seek the absolute _ recklessly by not trying to seek the absolute legal— recklessly by not trying to seek the absolute legal advice _ recklessly by not trying to seek the absolute legal advice that - recklessly by not trying to seek the absolute legal advice that would i absolute legal advice that would have established _ absolute legal advice that would have established and _ absolute legal advice that would have established and perhaps i absolute legal advice that would - have established and perhaps saved him from _ have established and perhaps saved him from this — have established and perhaps saved him from this mess _ have established and perhaps saved him from this mess he _ have established and perhaps saved him from this mess he has - have established and perhaps saved him from this mess he has got - him from this mess he has got himself— him from this mess he has got himself into. _ him from this mess he has got himself into.— him from this mess he has got himself into. . ., , ., ., . himself into. hannah, you watched all of it yesterday. _ himself into. hannah, you watched all of it yesterday. you _ himself into. hannah, you watched all of it yesterday. you have - himself into. hannah, you watched all of it yesterday. you have your l all of it yesterday. you have your opinion now of borisjohnson. does it matter what the committee decides, for you? i it matter what the committee decides, for you?— it matter what the committee decides, for you? i think it does matter. decides, for you? i think it does matter- i _ decides, for you? i think it does matter. i think, _ decides, for you? i think it does matter. i think, firstly, - decides, for you? i think it does matter. ithink, firstly, boris. matter. ithink, firstly, boris johnson shouldn't be anywhere near politics. he's proved too volatile and he was stood down as an mp once before for lying about an affair, so the fact he's getting a second or third chance is ridiculous but hopefully the committee will show mps from every party that you cannot treat the rules or guidance in place at any time is one rule for one and one rule for another. we at any time is one rule for one and one rule for another.— one rule for another. we really appreciate _ one rule for another. we really appreciate you _ one rule for another. we really appreciate you coming - one rule for another. we really appreciate you coming to - one rule for another. we really appreciate you coming to see l one rule for another. we really| appreciate you coming to see it again. thank you so much. tim montgomery, thank you for your time
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as well this morning. mike has a lot to talk about this morning when it comes to the sport. good morning, mike. . . , manchester united fans are on tenderhooks again, as there's new confusion over who their clubs new owners might be if indeed the glazer family do end up selling. the race to buy the club was blown wide open late last night. for so long, from either qatari banker sheikh jassim, or ineos owner, sirjim ratcliffe — both with reported world record bids, believed to be in the region of 5 billion pounds. before last night's 9 o'clock deadline, they had been the only two interested parties to go public — and it was understood they'd submitted revised offers. but it later emerged that their bids hadn't been received, and that the deadline has now been extended for them. and then it emerged that the deadline had been met by �*several�* other potential investors. it's unclear what the new time frame is for any new offers for the club.
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just over 100 days since the end of their world cup, england are preparing to start the journey towards the next major tournament. they're in italy for a euro 2024 qualifier tonight. they're taking on the team who beat them in the last european championship final in 2021, but england's players now have the belief they can win a major tournament — that's according to declan rice. manager gareth southgate meanwhile is looking forward to the challenge of taking on one of the world's strongest sides and in italy, where england haven't won since 1961. it's the sort of challenge we've got to start to take on and the type of game we have to start winning. we haven't won here since 1961, so we are also seeing another bit of history we are trying to break down, and that's a great challenge for this team. italy didn't qualify for the world cup, but they still have some outstanding players and they're going to have high motivation as well, so it's going to be a fabulous game.
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stand—in northern ireland captain craig cathcart believes michael 0'neill�*s return as northern ireland manager can inspire the country to euro 2024 qualification. they are missing steven davis and jonny evans through injury, but are big favourites to open their campaign with a win against san marino — who have never won a competitive match in their history. it's 0'neill�*s first game back since being re—appointed in december. now, after scoring twice for his club brighton at the weekend, teenager evan ferguson continues to do no wrong — as he scored on his first start for the republic of ireland. they beat latvia 3—2, in a friendly in dublin — ferguson with their second goal. the 18 year old has now been on target seven times in 20 games in his maiden season with brighton. ireland begin their euro qualifiers on monday against france. scotla nd scotland and wales have their first matches on saturday. chelsea women's manager emma hayes says she was satisfied with her side's win at lyon in the quarterfinals of the champions league —
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but warns the job is only half done. chelsea beat the defending champions 1—0 in france — guro reiten with the only goal. both sides hit the post, but it's chelsea with the advantage heading back to stamford bridge next week. it was a day to forget for british players in the opening round of the miami 0pen. emma raducanu is out. she was beaten by canada's bianca andreescu in a battle of two former us open winners. after losing the first set, raducanu won the second to force a decider — but fell short losing it 6—2. defeat too for andy murray. murray did stage a fightback in the second set to make it 5—5 and his opponent was worried thinking, here he is again with his usual fightback that this time he could not level it up that this time he could not level it up in the end and went out. kyle edmund also bowed out of the competition. so maybe murray was a bit tired. he's already had seven marathon final set deciding wins
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already this year alone, so maybe that took its toll one fight back too far for andy murray. it’s that took its toll one fight back too far for andy murray. it's 'ust his ammo — too far for andy murray. it's 'ust hrs ammo at fl too far for andy murray. it's 'ust his ammo at the i too far for andy murray. it's 'ust his ammo at the moment. h too far for andy murray. it's just i his ammo at the moment. thanks too far for andy murray. it's just - his ammo at the moment. thanks very much. speak to you later. let's have a look at the weather with matt. a lovely start for summer and we have got east lothian in the east of scotland here, but there are some downpours around now, some of them heavy and sundry and a few more to come during the day and quite windy again, but this time mainly for england and wales. details at the moment show where the thundery showers are putting across the irish sea into north west england are more persistent rain in north scotland which will drift north and hang around 0rkney for a good part of the day. a few showers in the south and many will start the day dry but we will see showers develop more widely through the day in england and wales and into northern ireland. the best of the dry weather will be mainland scotland this afternoon but even here one or two showers. breezy for england and wales, whipping up rough seas towards the south—west and
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winds touching gale force or few but again the winds are coming in from the south—west, a very mild direction and temperatures up to 15 or16 direction and temperatures up to 15 or 16 degrees in eastern england. we finish the afternoon across the channel islands and southern england with more cloud and persistent rain to take us into the evening rush hour particularly across the south—east and east anglia but it could be further north into parts of the south east midlands for a while. it clears through to night and then back to clear skies and showers. showers tonight most frequent across the northern half of the country and temperatures back to mid—single figures for most as we start tomorrow morning. tomorrow will be a story of sunshine and showers for many. some of them heavy and thundery, still on the mile side but this week and there are changes afoot as low pressure gradually pushes towards the east and we open the door on sunday to northerly winds and for one or two there could be sleet or snow. that's how it's looking. couples intending to separate could be forced to try to settle their financial
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and childcare arrangements without going to court. the government wants to introduce a mandatory mediation session before any court hearing. let's take a look at some figures. in 2021, more than 113,000 divorces were granted in england and wales, which is nearly ten per cent more than the previous year. the new system could help up to 19,000 separating families resolve their issues away from the courtroom — which would decrease the backlog of cases that family courts are struggling under. it would also reduce the number of children witnessing their parents going through a lengthy legal dispute — which can lead to anxiety, depression and anti—social behaviour. we're nowjoined byjoanne edwards, a family lawyer and mediator. good morning to you. so, mandatory mediation, you would have to do it before being granted a divorce. good thing or bad thing? the before being granted a divorce. good thing or bad thing?— thing or bad thing? the detail of the proposals —
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thing or bad thing? the detail of the proposals is _ thing or bad thing? the detail of the proposals is yet _ thing or bad thing? the detail of the proposals is yet to _ thing or bad thing? the detail of the proposals is yet to be - thing or bad thing? the detail of the proposals is yet to be seen. | thing or bad thing? the detail of. the proposals is yet to be seen. it is a consultation which is launching for a _ is a consultation which is launching for a 12_ is a consultation which is launching for a 12 week period, but our understanding is that any couple wanting — understanding is that any couple wanting to issue, any financial application in the court, would have to go— application in the court, would have to go to _ application in the court, would have to go to mediation first, subject to certain— to go to mediation first, subject to certain exceptions. clearly if there has been — certain exceptions. clearly if there has been domestic abuse or there are safeguarding concerns about children, there would be exceptions around _ children, there would be exceptions around that. broadly speaking, i really— around that. broadly speaking, i really welcome the proposals and look forward to seeing the detail, as i say. — look forward to seeing the detail, as i say, but from my perspective and everything i've experienced day to day. _ and everything i've experienced day to day. the — and everything i've experienced day to day, the family courts are an absolute — to day, the family courts are an absolute crisis. there are too many cases. _ absolute crisis. there are too many cases. too — absolute crisis. there are too many cases, too many applications being issued _ cases, too many applications being issued and — cases, too many applications being issued and they are taking too long to be _ issued and they are taking too long to be resolved. the missed opportunity, i think, to be resolved. the missed opportunity, ithink, is to be resolved. the missed opportunity, i think, is that it needs— opportunity, i think, is that it needs to _ opportunity, i think, is that it needs to be broader thanjust mediation, first of all. there are lots alternative to court. mediation is not _ lots alternative to court. mediation is not a _ lots alternative to court. mediation is not a one — lots alternative to court. mediation is not a one size fits all and what is not a one size fits all and what is crucial— is not a one size fits all and what is crucial is — is not a one size fits all and what is crucial is that people who can't afford _ is crucial is that people who can't afford legal advice have some funding — afford legal advice have some funding for initial legal advice so they can —
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funding for initial legal advice so they can work out what is the best option— they can work out what is the best option for— they can work out what is the best option for them and then hopefully resolve _ option for them and then hopefully resolve things completely away from the family _ resolve things completely away from the family court. gne resolve things completely away from the family court.— the family court. one of the issues when ou the family court. one of the issues when you have _ the family court. one of the issues when you have a _ the family court. one of the issues when you have a backlog _ the family court. one of the issues when you have a backlog in - the family court. one of the issues when you have a backlog in the - when you have a backlog in the family courts is that the process is drawn out, and children are witnessing, this is for couples with children,... its witnessing, this is for couples with children. . . -— children,... its for any couple at all. it children,... its for any couple at all- it might _ children,... its for any couple at all. it might be _ children,... its for any couple at all. it might be childless - children,... its for any couple at| all. it might be childless couples with money issues to sort out and it can be _ with money issues to sort out and it can be married or unmarried couples with children issues to sort out. the problem is when you have a backlog like the moment, if you add mediation into the mix, it extends even further and enforced mediation extends even further, so would there ever be an option to say, actually, we are sorted, we are fine and we know where we are going and we don't want this. irate know where we are going and we don't want this. ~ ., ., , , want this. we have to distinguish between cases. _ want this. we have to distinguish between cases. plenty _ want this. we have to distinguish between cases. plenty of- want this. we have to distinguish between cases. plenty of cases i want this. we have to distinguish l between cases. plenty of cases do -et between cases. plenty of cases do get resolved away from the family courts _ get resolved away from the family courts at — get resolved away from the family courts at present and they reach agreements early on whether through mediation _ agreements early on whether through mediation and a different process and that— mediation and a different process and that is— mediation and a different process and that is great but the whole point _ and that is great but the whole point at — and that is great but the whole point at the moment is there is no
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real filter— point at the moment is there is no real filter for cases going to the family— real filter for cases going to the family court, so last year very approximately 50,000 children cases were issued and about 40,000 money cases— were issued and about 40,000 money cases and _ were issued and about 40,000 money cases and there has been a doubling and how— cases and there has been a doubling and how long children cases are taken _ and how long children cases are taken to— and how long children cases are taken to resolve in the last six years. — taken to resolve in the last six years. so— taken to resolve in the last six years, so now it takes around 12 months — years, so now it takes around 12 months for— years, so now it takes around 12 months for a children case to be resolved — months for a children case to be resolved. so if any of the cases can be taken _ resolved. so if any of the cases can be taken away from the family courts. — be taken away from the family courts, the idea being that those cases— courts, the idea being that those cases that — courts, the idea being that those cases that really are resolvable but are going _ cases that really are resolvable but are going through any filter first, would _ are going through any filter first, would go — are going through any filter first, would go into a mediation process and it— would go into a mediation process and it means that the family court will be _ and it means that the family court will be saved for the truly deserving cases where there are safeguarding issues and concerns for children— safeguarding issues and concerns for children which frankly need to be dealt _ children which frankly need to be dealt with more quickly. gn children which frankly need to be dealt with more quickly.- dealt with more quickly. on the financial basis, _ dealt with more quickly. on the financial basis, if— dealt with more quickly. on the financial basis, if one _ dealt with more quickly. on the financial basis, if one of - dealt with more quickly. on the financial basis, if one of the - financial basis, if one of the partner is withholding financial settlement, and they are suffering, this extends the process. potentially does. it will be for the mediator— potentially does. it will be for the mediator to determine whether it had broken _ mediator to determine whether it had broken down, so i mediated my
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practice — broken down, so i mediated my practice with lots of my mediation clients _ practice with lots of my mediation clients it— practice with lots of my mediation clients it might get to the point where — clients it might get to the point where i— clients it might get to the point where i say to them, i don't think you are _ where i say to them, i don't think you are going to resolve things, so maybe _ you are going to resolve things, so maybe it's — you are going to resolve things, so maybe it's time to think about alternative options. the next one might— alternative options. the next one might not— alternative options. the next one might not be caught, but what we know _ might not be caught, but what we know from — might not be caught, but what we know from that mediation voucher scheme _ know from that mediation voucher scheme launched two years ago that has been _ scheme launched two years ago that has been extended under the proposals today with a further 15 million _ proposals today with a further 15 million going into that is that mediation generally is very successful. success rates are high and i_ successful. success rates are high and i think— successful. success rates are high and i think something like 79% of cases— and i think something like 79% of cases dealt with under the voucher scheme _ cases dealt with under the voucher scheme have been successful, so if any more _ scheme have been successful, so if any more cases can be resolved just because _ any more cases can be resolved just because they are not getting into that process or a different process at the _ that process or a different process at the moment, that will be a huge success _ at the moment, that will be a huge success. ~ . y ., at the moment, that will be a huge success. . ., , ., at the moment, that will be a huge success. . ., .,~ , ., at the moment, that will be a huge success. ., ., ., success. what you say makes a lot of sense and you _ success. what you say makes a lot of sense and you can _ success. what you say makes a lot of sense and you can see _ success. what you say makes a lot of sense and you can see the _ success. what you say makes a lot of sense and you can see the logic- success. what you say makes a lot of sense and you can see the logic of. sense and you can see the logic of trying to keep it out of the courts, but then you start talking about practicalities. there is a now, and at the end of it if everyone agrees this would be great, what money would be needed and how many mediation experts will be need for
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it to come injust like mediation experts will be need for it to come in just like that, and whether they come from? there is the rub, whether they come from? there is the rub. really- — whether they come from? there is the rub, really. there _ whether they come from? there is the rub, really. there is _ whether they come from? there is the rub, really. there is a _ whether they come from? there is the rub, really. there is a good _ whether they come from? there is the rub, really. there is a good network i rub, really. there is a good network of mediators — rub, really. there is a good network of mediators and there would clearly need to— of mediators and there would clearly need to be _ of mediators and there would clearly need to be a scaling up of the proposals. need to be a scaling up of the proposals-— need to be a scaling up of the proposals. give me a sense of proportion- — proposals. give me a sense of proportion. scaling _ proposals. give me a sense of proportion. scaling up - proposals. give me a sense of proportion. scaling up means| proposals. give me a sense of. proportion. scaling up means it needs to go from 10% up to 90%? have you any idea? fist needs to go from 10% up to 90%? have you any idea?— you any idea? at the moment, resolution. — you any idea? at the moment, resolution, the _ you any idea? at the moment, resolution, the family - you any idea? at the moment, resolution, the family lawyers| resolution, the family lawyers association, we have 1500 mediators in the _ association, we have 1500 mediators in the family mediation count is about— in the family mediation count is about 5000 in total. and it might be around _ about 5000 in total. and it might be around 19,000 families might be assisted — around 19,000 families might be assisted by diverting it away from court _ assisted by diverting it away from court so _ assisted by diverting it away from court so it — assisted by diverting it away from court so it might be there needs to be a doubling of the mediation community. so that will take time. more _ community. so that will take time. more broadly, there needs to be a good _ more broadly, there needs to be a good financial commitment to this. as i say. _ good financial commitment to this. as i say. for— good financial commitment to this. as i say, for resolution and me personally, that should notjust be focused _ personally, that should notjust be focused on — personally, that should notjust be focused on mediation. the whole system _ focused on mediation. the whole system needs looking at. the system is broken _
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system needs looking at. the system is broken. but if we had that funding _ is broken. but if we had that funding for some legal advice initially. _ funding for some legal advice initially, you would find people would — initially, you would find people would be diverted to the right course — would be diverted to the right course or— would be diverted to the right course or could sort things out themselves, because a lot of the difficulty— themselves, because a lot of the difficulty at the moment with legal aid cuts _ difficulty at the moment with legal aid cuts ten years ago there's been aid cuts ten years ago there's been a quadrupling in the number of people — a quadrupling in the number of people self representing in family courts _ people self representing in family courts. they are often litigating things— courts. they are often litigating things that are not achievable but they don't— things that are not achievable but they don't know they are not achievable because it is a minefield. so anything that means they can _ minefield. so anything that means they can get some initial advice will be — they can get some initial advice will be very, very helpful. joanne, thank ou will be very, very helpful. joanne, thank you very — will be very, very helpful. joanne, thank you very much. _ a lot of expertise from you and it is 12 weeks, and then the consultation gets looked at. yes we await the results _ consultation gets looked at. yes we await the results of _ consultation gets looked at. yes we await the results of the _ await the results of the consultation. thank you. we'll be speaking to the best—selling author harlan coben later this morning. he's sold 80 million books worldwide — his thrillers have been adapted for the screen — his fans include bruce springsteen — and he'sjust released his 35th novel.
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harlan will be on the sofa just at five—past—nine. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london i'm victoria hollins. the nhs is to start a new polio vaccination campaign in london schools for under 11s, over fears that uptake is still lagging behind the rest of the country. the most recent tests last detected the virus in sewage in early november, but in lesser quantities than in the first part of 2022. health officials believe the spread of poliovirus may have slowed down but say there's no room for complacency. what we're trying to do now that we have less polio virus in the sewage is to target those children who remain unvaccinated. we really don't want to have a case of paralysis. even one case would be a real tragedy. because it's completely preventable with vaccination. so the nhs will be reaching out to parents of children aged one to 11 in london and asking them
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to come forward and catch their children up. londoners are being invited to share memories of lost loved ones on the third anniversary of lockdown. a wall covered with hundreds of daffodils has been unveiled by charity marie curie on the south bank to mark its national day of reflection. the charity will also mark a minute's silence at 12 today to remember those who died during the pandemic and support those grieving in lockdown. this weekend is a highlight in london's sporting calendar, the boat race between oxford and cambridge universities. the volunteer lifeboat crew members from chiswick rnli will be on duty, monitoring the shoreline from start to finish on the four mile route along the thames and keeping the huge crowds safe on the banks of the river during the race. the tides run extremely fast. the
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underwater obstacles are extremely dangerous. and people forget that it is a dangerous river, so they don't look after themselves quite as much as they could do around the water. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's a dry and bright star this morning with some sunshine but it's going to be another unsettled day with some heavy, blustery showers. low pressure to the west of the uk driving the fronts through. it will be a windy day with the wind gusting up to 40 mph, so dry for many to start but the showers quick to arrive, blowing on on the south—westerly wind. still some sunny spells but through the afternoon heavier, more persistent rain from the south but temperatures still reaching 14 celsius. a wet evening but the rain will clear away post midnight, dry with clear skies, so temperatures dropping to five or six celsius. tomorrow morning, it will be another bright start with some sunshine, but another unsettled day on the cards.
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we will see further showers, fronts coming in from the south—west, still breezy for friday and it will stay unsettled into the weekend for saturday and a cold day for sunday and a northerly flow means temperatures dropping especially overnight, sunday into monday, where we are likely to wake up to a frost on monday morning. that's it. have a look at our website for all the latest news or the bbc news app. we're back in half an hour. bye. good morning, welcome
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to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today. fighting for his political career — borisjohnson swears he didn't lie to parliament over partygate. good morning. is the cost of borrowing set to rise again? the bank of england is expected to rise interest rates later today after food prices cause inflation to climb unexpectedly. i food prices cause inflation to climb unexpectedly-_ unexpectedly. i will have the details. unexpectedly. i will have the details- we _ unexpectedly. i will have the details. we will— unexpectedly. i will have the details. we will hear - unexpectedly. i will have the details. we will hear from i unexpectedly. i will have the | details. we will hear from the terror attack victims who still are not receiving the compensation they are entitled to. good morning. fresh confusion in the race to buy manchester united as the two main bidders ask for more time and get the deadline extended. several new suitors get their bids in on time. racing across the world — we'll meet the dad and daughter taking part in the hit tv series, making their way across canada with no phone, no flights and very little cash.
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and of course i will have the weather, which again is a day of sunshine and showers. windiest in england and wales. details here on breakfast. good morning. it's thursday, the 23rd of march. borisjohnson's political future hangs in the balance after he was questioned by mps investigating whether he misled parliament over lockdown parties in downing street. during a three—hour session, the former prime minister repeatedly denied lying to the commons about events in number 10, and insisted that he believed at the time the gatherings were necessary for work purposes. 0ur political correspondent, helen catt reports. i swear by almighty god that the evidence i shall give before this committee shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. it is rare for an mp to have to swear on the bible before giving evidence in parliament. but this was, after all, a hearing about truth — mrjohnson adamant he'd told it.
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i'm here to say to you, hand on heart, that i did not lie to the house. for around three hours, mps on the privileges committee questioned mrjohnson about why he had told the commons that covid guidance had not been broken in downing street. they showed him photographs like this one, of a leaving do in november 2020, which they said suggested he himself had seen guidance being broken. the guidance does not say you can have a thank you party and as many people in the room as you like, if it's very important you thank people. the guidance doesn't say that. i accept that not everybody is perfectly socially distanced in that picture, but that did not mean to me, when i stood up in the house of commons and said that the guidance was followed completely, i was not thinking of that event and thinking that somehow that contravened the guidance. absolutely not. we were making a huge effort to follow the guidance. mrjohnson also said that he would believe until the day he died that it had been his job to thank staff, and gatherings to do
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so had been essential. would you have advised anyone else in the country, _ if they'd asked you at one of the press conferences i at that time, to have a large social gathering in their garden? - it was not a large social gathering. it was a gathering intended... and i really must insist on this point. people who say that we were partying in lockdown simply do not know what they are talking about. people who say that that event was a purely social gathering are quite wrong. those around mrjohnson believe the hearing went well. i thought he gave a very robust defence of himself, actually. i thought he addressed the points very well. i think we also need to remember this is not a reinvestigation of partygate. really the committee is talking about parliamentary procedure, whether that's been followed or not, and whether the accounts that he had given are correct. mrjohnson's critics took a different view. i got the impression by the end that he knows perfectly well.
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that the rules weren't followed. he's always known that the rules weren't perfectly followed, - and he's always sort i of tried to cover it up. it will be for the committee to decide if it thinks mrjohnson committed a contempt, and if it was inadvertent, reckless or deliberate. their report is not expected until late spring or early summer. helen catt, bbc news, westminster. 0ur chief political correspondent nick eardleyjoins us now. good morning. so we had of the set piece yesterday, the kind of theatre around this moment. but at the heart of it was a very simple question in a way about evidence. where did this take us? ,., ., ., ., ., , take us? good morning. yeah, it was. and it was about _ take us? good morning. yeah, it was. and it was about why _ take us? good morning. yeah, it was. and it was about why boris _ take us? good morning. yeah, it was. and it was about why boris johnson i and it was about why boris johnson misled parliament. he came out fighting, as you would probably expect, actually. ithink fighting, as you would probably expect, actually. i think you can summarise his argument basically as, i told parliament what i thought was true at the time, and i do think
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that those events, which we have all seen pictures of, of tables with bottles of per cycle, they were still necessary for work and it was fair to be at those leaving do giving speeches. but i've got to say listening to some of the questions asked by members of the committee, some of them are clearly pretty sceptical, actually. so, harriet harman, the labour chair, described at one point to some of mrjohnson's evidence as flimsy. the conservative mp, the veteran sir bernard jenkin, said at one point that mrjohnson had not taken proper advice because he had not gone to senior civil servants and other senior people in downing street to ask if the rules had been followed. he also suggested that the committee didn't agree with mrjohnson's interpretation of his own rules. so, the committee will go away now and have a look at that evidence. have a look at all the other evidence they have compiled. they may even take some more. it
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will be a few weeks before we see any conclusions. but i do think we will see a report from them before the summer holidays. so, that will come to a head in a few weeks. there was a lot going on yesterday. a busy afternoon in westminster. interesting time for number 10 to publish this, something we have been promised for weeks, rishi sunak�*s tax return. a dropped at half past four yesterday afternoon. in the middle of that borisjohnson session. a cynic might suggest number 10 didn't want to much attention on the prime minister's tax affairs. it tells us something that we had a pretty good idea of, that we had a pretty good idea of, that rishi sunak has quite a lot of money, £4.7 million in income in three years. he paid well over £1 million in tax on that. we are still going over the finer detail of some of that. but interesting timing there, i thought, of that. but interesting timing there, ithought, to of that. but interesting timing there, i thought, to drop thatjust as we were all distracted by rishi sunak�*s predecessor. as we were all distracted by rishi sunak's predecessor.— as we were all distracted by rishi sunak's predecessor. thank you very much. the cost of borrowing money
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is expected to rise again this afternoon, when the bank of england's monetary policy committee meets. hannah can tell us more. people are struggling quite a bit at the moment, as we well know, so they might well ask themselves, why now? why raise interest rates again just when things are difficult? why raise interest rates again 'ust when things are difficult?�* when things are difficult? yeah, it is, of when things are difficult? yeah, it is. of course. _ when things are difficult? yeah, it is. of course. a — when things are difficult? yeah, it is, of course, a really _ when things are difficult? yeah, it is, of course, a really tricky - is, of course, a really tricky balancing act. the idea, the principal, is that raising interest rates makes it more expensive for us all to borrow. that means we effectively have less money to spend. in theory, that would bring prices down. the bank of england now is that times are tough, that that is that times are tough, that that is a difficult message for people. they argue simply that rising prices poses an even bigger danger to many families across the country and that's why they need to raise interest rates when they do that. that won't be much comfort without
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to the 1.5 million families who are looking to renegotiate a mortgage this year. for example, anybody looking to take out a loan. 0bviously they raise interest rates to tackle inflation, traditionally. but because inflation was supposed to come down, that was a surprise, that interest rates might have come down? . , ,, , down? yeah, the shock rise in inflation driven _ down? yeah, the shock rise in inflation driven by _ down? yeah, the shock rise in inflation driven by food - down? yeah, the shock rise in inflation driven by food prices| down? yeah, the shock rise in - inflation driven by food prices that we saw yesterday is what has led many people to think that interest rates are more likely to go up than had previously been expected, quite rightly. if we had been having this conversation 24 hours ago, i might have said it was on a knife edge. now it is looking more likely. there is also the context, the collapse recently of silicon valley bank in the us, and the takeover of credit suisse. that had been linked to rising interest rates. that had led many people to think this may be won't happen. it did not put the federal reserve off yesterday in the
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us. they raise interest rates. we often follow what they tend to do. it is looking likely this might happen today. it is looking likely this might happen today-— it is looking likely this might happen today. it is looking likely this might ha-hen toda . . . ., ,. planned rail strikes in march and april have been called off. rmt union members, who work at 14 train companies, were set to walk out on thursday and friday of next week. the rail delivery group — which represents train companies — welcomed the move, and said it is now focused on working constructively towards a settlement. a scottish parliamentary committee has found serious failings in the way a contract to build two ferries was awarded. among the problems identified by the panel was the decision of the scottish first minister nicola sturgeon to prematurely announce the shipyard, ferguson's, as the preferred bidder. the committee said taxpayers and island communities had been "badly let down" by the project. investigators are trying to work out what caused a ship to tip over in edinburgh, injuring 35 people, eight of whom remain in hospital. the research vessel petrel was in dry dock
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in leith when it became dislodged from its holding and slipped to a 45 degree angle. 0ur scotland correspondent james shaw is there. james, good morning. 0bviously james, good morning. obviously we heard about this yesterday. more people emerging as injured? that’s people emerging as in'ured? that's rirht. we people emerging as in'ured? that's right. we think_ people emerging as in'ured? that's right. we think a _ people emerging as injured? that's right. we think a total _ people emerging as injured? that's right. we think a total of _ people emerging as injured? that's right. we think a total of 35 - people emerging as injured? that�*s right. we think a total of 35 people injured. eight of them still in hospital. but let's take a closer look at this vessel, the name, still lying at that angle of 45 degrees at the moment. —— the petrel. you can probably see the helipad to the left of the picture in the name of it in white inscribed. you can see what a severe angle it is. we believe there may have been scaffolding on the superstructure. there might have been people working on that scaffolding. there is a possibility that his house some, or many of these people, were injured, possibly
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falling as that dramatic incident happened around about eight o'clock to half past eight yesterday morning. a huge emergency response. multiple emergency vehicles. ambulances, police, coastguard, helicopter, an air ambulance was also called in. and many of those people taken to hospital. this is a research vessel. it is designed to explore the very deep ocean. it has looked for us navy vessels like the indianapolis, which was lost during the second world war. but it has been here in leith since about 2020. it hasn't actually been operational since the start of the covid crisis. now it looks as though they were quite a lot of people working on the vessel at the time this accident happened. 0ne vessel at the time this accident happened. one person who works at the docks described how someone he knew, who was working on the ship, took a toilet break, and when they came back they couldn't find their
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friends after this extraordinary, unprecedented accident. investigations as to how it happened, possibly to do with strong winds, we would expect to start pretty soon. winds, we would expect to start pretty soon-— winds, we would expect to start re soon. , ~ ., pretty soon. james, i know you will kee- us pretty soon. james, i know you will keep us updated. _ pretty soon. james, i know you will keep us updated. thank— pretty soon. james, i know you will keep us updated. thank you. - the head of the social media app tiktok is expected to give evidence to the us congress today over security concerns. shou zi chew is likely to face a barrage of questions on tiktok�*s relationship with the chinese state, what data it collects and what it does with it. the app has already been banned on government—owned devices in the us, the uk and many eu states, due to privacy and security concerns. the prince of wales has visited british troops near the ukrainian border. prince william is on an official two—day visit to poland, which continues today when he meets the polish president. his trip to meet the troops in the south—east was kept secret, for security reasons, until he was back in warsaw.
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that is a look at some of the main stories. 13 minutes past seven. matt has got bright skies over norwich. look at that. i has got bright skies over norwich. look at that-— look at that. i have ended. good morninr. look at that. i have ended. good morning. blue _ look at that. i have ended. good morning. blue skies _ look at that. i have ended. good morning. blue skies for- look at that. i have ended. good morning. blue skies for some . look at that. i have ended. good morning. blue skies for some of| look at that. i have ended. good . morning. blue skies for some of you already this morning. do not be fooled though because they won't last all day long for everyone. if you are about to step out the door, bring something waterproofjust in case. it will be a day when potentially there could be a few showers coming your way. some more than others. and a windy day again. this time many across england and wales. light winds for scotland and northern ireland compared to yesterday. if you are about to step out the door, it is fresher than it was yesterday morning. not a great deal. five to 9 degrees where we should be for this time in march. showers through wales and north—west england. a rumbles of thunder and flashes of lightning with that. an area of more persistent rain the area for north of the highlands. showers developing more widely causing them, wales, northern ireland, as we go through
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the day. not too many across scotland. even where the showers are in the forecast, you might get lucky. where the showers do come along, they will push across the sky quite quickly for england and wales. strong to gale force winds. rough seas. here are the temperatures for the afternoon. another very mild day. ten to 15, maybe 60 degrees. this afternoon, even after a dry start, we finish with rain across the channel islands, parts of southern england into the south—east. it could be further north into parts of the midlands and east anglia. it certainly means a wet rush hour. that gradually clears during the first part of the night. the rest of the night, many areas in the south will stay dry. plenty of showers coming and going for the northern half of the uk, where temperatures again will be down to meet single figures. slightly fresher than yesterday across the south. into friday, another story of sunshine and showers. showers heavy infantry and widespread. set to get a chillier, particularly on sunday. thank you.
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no amount of money can undo the trauma of being caught up in a terror attack, or bring back a loved one. but it can cover bills for victims who can no longer work, and pay for therapy or even funerals. but breakfast has been told the government's compensation scheme is broken. the campaign group survivors against terror says the process is stressful, demeaning, and that it magnifies the initial pain of the attack. jayne mccubbin has been speaking to three terrorism survivors about their experiences. i lost the person i was, myjob, my working life, my career. the greatest loss was the love of my life, my elaine. i've seen this kid curled up in a ball in— i've seen this kid curled up in a ball in the _ i've seen this kid curled up in a ball in the shower. can't get
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screams— ball in the shower. can't get screams of their head. she describes the blood _ screams of their head. she describes the blood on her feet. she can still feel it _ the blood on her feet. she can still feel it. ~ ., ., ., feel it. when zoe and paul experienced _ feel it. when zoe and paul experienced at _ feel it. when zoe and paul experienced at the - feel it. when zoe and paul experienced at the very i feel it. when zoe and paul - experienced at the very worst, they thought they got mike wood be there. instead, they say they felt abandoned.— instead, they say they felt abandoned. ~ . ., abandoned. we receive nothing. absolutely _ abandoned. we receive nothing. absolutely nothing. _ abandoned. we receive nothing. absolutely nothing. i _ abandoned. we receive nothing. absolutely nothing. i thought, i abandoned. we receive nothing. i absolutely nothing. i thought, this is it, my life is over.— is it, my life is over. these were the last photographs _ is it, my life is over. these were the last photographs taken - is it, my life is over. these were the last photographs taken by i is it, my life is over. these were i the last photographs taken by zoe is it, my life is over. these were - the last photographs taken by zoe of her daughter millie in tunisia, 2015, just before their life changed forever. irate 2015, just before their life changed forever. ~ , ._ 2015, just before their life changed forever. ~ , ., , _ forever. we were playing darts by the hool. forever. we were playing darts by the pool- it _ forever. we were playing darts by the pool. it was _ forever. we were playing darts by the pool. it was like _ forever. we were playing darts by the pool. it was like a _ forever. we were playing darts by the pool. it was like a pop, - forever. we were playing darts by the pool. it was like a pop, pop, l the pool. it was like a pop, pop, p0p the pool. it was like a pop, pop, pop noise — the pool. it was like a pop, pop, pop noise coming from the beach. even _ pop noise coming from the beach. even then— pop noise coming from the beach. even then i— pop noise coming from the beach. even then i knew what it was. a lone runman even then i knew what it was. a lone gunman killed _ even then i knew what it was. a lone gunman killed 38 _ even then i knew what it was. a lone gunman killed 38 people _ even then i knew what it was. a lone gunman killed 38 people that - even then i knew what it was. a lone gunman killed 38 people that die - even then i knew what it was. a lone gunman killed 38 people that die as| gunman killed 38 people that die as holiday—makers fled the family were separated. millie was chased along a hotel corridor where the government through a grenade. for a time it cost her her hearing. it’s
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through a grenade. for a time it cost her her hearing.— cost her her hearing. it's 'ust terrific. h�* cost her her hearing. it's 'ust terrific. it completely i cost her her hearing. it'sjustl terrific. it completely changed cost her her hearing. it'sjust - terrific. it completely changed her life. ~ . terrific. it completely changed her life. . , ., life. when she returned home, the prime minister _ life. when she returned home, the prime minister david _ life. when she returned home, the prime minister david cameron - life. when she returned home, the| prime minister david cameron sent this letter and a promise. instead, they say they have had to fight for compensation and therapy. haifa they say they have had to fight for compensation and therapy. how are ou? compensation and therapy. how are you? good- — compensation and therapy. how are you? good- how — compensation and therapy. how are you? good. how are _ compensation and therapy. how are you? good. how are you? _ compensation and therapy. how are you? good. how are you? today, i you? good. how are you? today, millie is trying — you? good. how are you? today, millie is trying to _ you? good. how are you? today, millie is trying to rebuild - you? good. how are you? today, millie is trying to rebuild her - you? good. how are you? today, millie is trying to rebuild her life | millie is trying to rebuild her life in america, still unable to talk about what happened.- in america, still unable to talk about what happened. millie started with hanic about what happened. millie started with panic attacks _ about what happened. millie started with panic attacks about _ about what happened. millie started with panic attacks about a _ about what happened. millie started with panic attacks about a month - with panic attacks about a month after— with panic attacks about a month after the — with panic attacks about a month after the attack. they've never stopped — after the attack. they've never stopped. she's never had any real treatment. — stopped. she's never had any real treatment, therapy. it's like nobody cares _ treatment, therapy. it's like nobody cares. ~ . . treatment, therapy. it's like nobody cares. . . ., ., cares. what we all went through was horrific. cares. what we all went through was horrific- the — cares. what we all went through was horrific. the fact _ cares. what we all went through was horrific. the fact we _ cares. what we all went through was horrific. the fact we aren't _ cares. what we all went through was horrific. the fact we aren't being - horrific. the fact we aren't being helped _ horrific. the fact we aren't being helped is. — horrific. the fact we aren't being helped is. in— horrific. the fact we aren't being helped is. in my— horrific. the fact we aren't being helped is, in my opinion, - horrific. the fact we aren't being. helped is, in my opinion, offensive. 0ur helped is, in my opinion, offensive. our hearts— helped is, in my opinion, offensive. our hearts all— helped is, in my opinion, offensive. our hearts all go _ helped is, in my opinion, offensive. our hearts all go out _ helped is, in my opinion, offensive. our hearts all go out to _ helped is, in my opinion, offensive. our hearts all go out to the - helped is, in my opinion, offensive. our hearts all go out to the victimsl our hearts all go out to the victims of these appalling terrorist acts. hour thoughts and prayers are with
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the victims — hour thoughts and prayers are with the victims and with their friends, families— the victims and with their friends, families and loved ones. sympathy is never in short — families and loved ones. sympathy is never in short supply _ families and loved ones. sympathy is never in short supply when _ families and loved ones. sympathy is never in short supply when there - families and loved ones. sympathy is never in short supply when there is i never in short supply when there is yet another terror attack. but campaign groups, survivors against terror, say people are consistently let down by the criminal injuries compensation authority. paul's partner elaine was killed in the manchester arena bomb attack. he spent eight months in hospital recovering from his own extensive injuries. recovering from his own extensive in'uries. ~ . recovering from his own extensive in'uries. ~ , , ., injuries. while still in hospital heo . le injuries. while still in hospital people told — injuries. while still in hospital people told me _ injuries. while still in hospital people told me there - injuries. while still in hospital people told me there was, . injuries. while still in hospital| people told me there was, you injuries. while still in hospital- people told me there was, you know, the whole nation were behind the people who had lost or injured. you won't have anything to worry about, just concentrate on getting better and getting over this. it just concentrate on getting better and getting over this.— and getting over this. it never happened? — and getting over this. it never happened? i— and getting over this. it never happened? i come _ and getting over this. it never happened? i come out - and getting over this. it never happened? i come out in - and getting over this. it never - happened? i come out in february two nothinr. happened? i come out in february two nothing- paul— happened? i come out in february two nothing. paul chose _ happened? i come out in february two nothing. paul chose me _ happened? i come out in february two nothing. paul chose me almost - happened? i come out in february two nothing. paul chose me almost four i nothing. paul chose me almost four ears of nothing. paul chose me almost four years of correspondence _ nothing. paul chose me almost four
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years of correspondence fighting . nothing. paul chose me almost fouri years of correspondence fighting for compensation. june 22. "we are ready to assess your application for compensation. " you told us you sustained injuries.— sustained in'uries. that is 'ust word it sustained injuries. that is 'ust word it totally i sustained injuries. that is 'ust word it totally wrong. i sustained injuries. that is 'ust word it totally wrong. it h sustained injuries. that is 'ust word it totally wrong. it ish sustained injuries. that isjust word it totally wrong. it is set| sustained injuries. that isjust i word it totally wrong. it is set up for injuries, fights outside pubs, crash for cash claims. they sort of view you as... crash for cash claims. they sort of view you as- - -_ crash for cash claims. they sort of view you as... you are on the make to es, view you as... you are on the make to yes. very — view you as... you are on the make to yes. very much _ view you as... you are on the make to yes, very much so. _ view you as... you are on the make to yes, very much so. that's - view you as... you are on the make to yes, very much so. that's how i to yes, very much so. that's how they make _ to yes, very much so. that's how they make me — to yes, very much so. that's how they make me feel. _ to yes, very much so. that's how they make me feel. survivors - to yes, very much so. that's how - they make me feel. survivors against terror say the — they make me feel. survivors against terror say the system _ they make me feel. survivors against terror say the system is _ they make me feel. survivors against terror say the system is what - they make me feel. survivors against terror say the system is what the - terror say the system is what the public would expect and is not what survivors deserve. it’s public would expect and is not what survivors deserve.— public would expect and is not what survivors deserve. it's a nightmare. most of the — survivors deserve. it's a nightmare. most of the organisations _ survivors deserve. it's a nightmare. most of the organisations i - survivors deserve. it's a nightmare. most of the organisations i have - most of the organisations i have come across, i havejust most of the organisations i have come across, i have just stumbled across or by myself. late come across, i have 'ust stumbled across or by myself._ come across, i have 'ust stumbled across or by myself. late last year, paul appeared _ across or by myself. late last year, paul appeared on _ across or by myself. late last year, paul appeared on the _ across or by myself. late last year, paul appeared on the breakfast - paul appeared on the breakfast sulphur. and suddenly, everything changed? sulphur. and suddenly, everything chanced? . , changed? yeah, the same day my solicitor received _ changed? yeah, the same day my solicitor received a _ changed? yeah, the same day my solicitor received a uncle. - changed? yeah, the same day my solicitor received a uncle. it - solicitor received a uncle. it shouldn't take you sitting in the red sulphur to make the cic i take
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action. . . . action. the criminal in'uries compensation * action. the criminal injuries compensation scheme - action. the criminal injuries compensation scheme is i action. the criminal injuriesl compensation scheme is one action. the criminal injuries - compensation scheme is one of the most generous in the world, we were told. but we know that more must be done to support victims of terrorism, which is why the government is reviewing the support available. , ,., a available. everything went so quick. i've been available. everything went so quick. i've been sat _ available. everything went so quick. i've been sat in _ available. everything went so quick. i've been sat in my— available. everything went so quick. i've been sat in my stomach. - available. everything went so quick. i've been sat in my stomach. in - available. everything went so quick. i've been sat in my stomach. in my| i've been sat in my stomach. in my lungs, my back and do my face as well. ~ n. lungs, my back and do my face as well. ~ ~. ., . well. when marine, a french national. _ well. when marine, a french national, was _ well. when marine, a french national, was stabbed - well. when marine, a french national, was stabbed in - well. when marine, a french national, was stabbed in the | well. when marine, a french - national, was stabbed in the london bridge attack in 2017, her government was proactive in offering fast financial practical and psychological support. irate fast financial practical and psychological support. fast financial practical and -s cholor-icalsu hort. ~ . ., psychological support. we received a lum . psychological support. we received a lum sum psychological support. we received a lump sum in — psychological support. we received a lump sum in advance _ psychological support. we received a lump sum in advance of _ psychological support. we received a lump sum in advance of the - lump sum in advance of the compensation, which will come after. i had a psychologist coming into my home, actually, every week. it was all organised. it's kind of simple when you think about it. but at what is —— it is what it should be. she
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is -- it is what it should be. she was one of— is -- it is what it should be. she was one of a _ is -- it is what it should be. she was one of a group _ is —— it is what it should be. she was one of a group of campaigners who, this week, went to westminster to demand change. a survivors' charter, one which alleviates the pain of an attack instead of magnifying it. jane mccubbin, bbc news. we're joined now by paul price, who we just saw injayne's piece, and brendan cox, who co—founded survivors against terror. morning. paul, the first time you were here, which was only one other time before, as you said in that report, almost desperation. you just needed to be heard because you had gone through so many places. and then, as soon as you came off the programme, i need to go through this again in my head, what exactly
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happened? i again in my head, what exactly happened?— again in my head, what exactly ha-hened? _ happened? i was contacted by the compensation _ happened? i was contacted by the compensation board. _ happened? i was contacted by the compensation board. they- happened? i was contacted by the compensation board. they said i happened? i was contacted by the i compensation board. they said they wanted to get this sorted. this has been dragging on for five and a wanted to get this sorted. this has been dragging on forfive and a half years. and the same day they said, you know, my solicitor got a named person from the organisation to contact. they said, we want to sort out his claim as soon as possible. has it been sorted out? in principle, yes, it has now. it is not finalised, but in principle, it has. as i said in the peace there, it shouldn't take coming on here to speed up a process. they have been added for five and a half years. it is notjust the length of added for five and a half years. it is not just the length of the is notjust the length of the process, it is the way the process is done. as we said, thomas like you are taken back to that moment over and over again to relive and almost justify, i am and over again to relive and almost justify, iam hurt, iam and over again to relive and almost justify, i am hurt, i am a victim
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here? . . here? yeah, even the letters, the whole wording _ here? yeah, even the letters, the whole wording is, _ here? yeah, even the letters, the whole wording is, we _ here? yeah, even the letters, the whole wording is, we don't - here? yeah, even the letters, the| whole wording is, we don't believe you. please prove to us that you have sustained these injuries, police prove to us this happened to you. one example for me that was dehumanising was, when i was still in hospital, they wanted photographic evidence of scarring throughout my body. i asked my solicitor to come and take those pictures in hospital. your dignity is already out the window. i was bedbound at the time. but then, four years later, again, they wanted more photographic evidence.— years later, again, they wanted more photographic evidence. what, to show ou are still photographic evidence. what, to show you are still injured? _ photographic evidence. what, to show you are still injured? to _ photographic evidence. what, to show you are still injured? to show- photographic evidence. what, to show you are still injured? to show the i you are still in'ured? to show the scarrin: you are still injured? to show the scarring across _ you are still injured? to show the scarring across my _ you are still injured? to show the scarring across my body. - you are still injured? to show the scarring across my body. who i you are still injured? to show thei scarring across my body. who am you are still injured? to show the. scarring across my body. who am i going to ask you take those pictures? not my family or friends. 0nce pictures? not my family or friends. once again my solicitor had to step in. again, feeling dehumanised, put on show. i asked whoever took the photographs to send them back to
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ensure they were inducted. thea;r ensure they were inducted. they don't believe _ ensure they were inducted. they don't believe you. _ ensure they were inducted. they don't believe you. another reason you are speaking to us today is because there are still people, still waiting. when you look at the facts of this, the manchester arena bombing happened on the 22nd of may 2017. you will correct me if i've got this wrong, 29 people are still awaiting the outcome of the compensation?— awaiting the outcome of the compensation? awaiting the outcome of the com hensation? . �* , . , compensation? yeah, there's many more that have _ compensation? yeah, there's many more that have given _ compensation? yeah, there's many more that have given up. _ compensation? yeah, there's many more that have given up. the i compensation? yeah, there's many i more that have given up. the process is round more that have given up. the process is ground them _ more that have given up. the process is ground them down? _ more that have given up. the process is ground them down? i _ more that have given up. the process is ground them down? i had - more that have given up. the process is ground them down? i had a - is ground them down? i had a solicitor looking _ is ground them down? i had a solicitor looking after - is ground them down? i had a solicitor looking after me. if. is ground them down? i had a| solicitor looking after me. if it wasn't for that, i couldn't have done it. it's that hard. a battle. brendan, do you want to pick up on the themes? there are clearly common themes about the impact on the individual and the slowness of the process and how damaging that is? i think it's huge. when paul and i first spoke — think it's huge. when paul and i first spoke about this, the awful thing _ first spoke about this, the awful thing was — first spoke about this, the awful thing was it wasn't a surprise. there — thing was it wasn't a surprise. there are _ thing was it wasn't a surprise. there are so many victims and survivors— there are so many victims and survivors of—
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there are so many victims and survivors of attacks we have got very— survivors of attacks we have got very similar stories, been treated as if they— very similar stories, been treated as if they are criminals. being treated — as if they are criminals. being treated as _ as if they are criminals. being treated as if they are trying to get money— treated as if they are trying to get money from a system. you saw that in the package _ money from a system. you saw that in the package. prime ministers, politicians, the sense of, we will look _ politicians, the sense of, we will look after — politicians, the sense of, we will look after you, we will make sure you are _ look after you, we will make sure you are ok. — look after you, we will make sure you are ok, exactly what the public would _ you are ok, exactly what the public would expect, exactly what is not happening. again, is that piece showed. — happening. again, is that piece showed, what is happening at the minute _ showed, what is happening at the minute is — showed, what is happening at the minute is that instead of the criminal— minute is that instead of the criminal injuries compensation authority— criminal injuries compensation authority being balm on the wounds and making sure people are looked after. _ and making sure people are looked after. that— and making sure people are looked after, that they can keep up their payments— after, that they can keep up their payments on their mortgages, or adapt _ payments on their mortgages, or adapt their house to wheelchairs or whatever— adapt their house to wheelchairs or whatever else, instead of that, they are dehumanising people. they are making _ are dehumanising people. they are making them more stressed and more anxious— making them more stressed and more anxious than— making them more stressed and more anxious than they would have been. that is— anxious than they would have been. that is not— anxious than they would have been. that is not the way the system should — that is not the way the system should operate what is the reason that is— should operate what is the reason that is being given for the delays? for the _ that is being given for the delays? for the scrutiny? some people say the scrutiny is fair enough. it is money that needs to be allocated fairly and reasonably. iloathed
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money that needs to be allocated fairly and reasonably.— fairly and reasonably. what is the reason? we _ fairly and reasonably. what is the reason? we have _ fairly and reasonably. what is the reason? we have not _ fairly and reasonably. what is the reason? we have not had - fairly and reasonably. what is the reason? we have not had a - fairly and reasonably. what is the reason? we have not had a clear| reason? we have not had a clear reason — reason? we have not had a clear reason i— reason? we have not had a clear reason. i think there is probably a broken _ reason. i think there is probably a broken culture at the organisation. the compensation authority. it is probably— the compensation authority. it is probably the way they deal with other— probably the way they deal with other inquiries. there are perhaps people _ other inquiries. there are perhaps people taking them for a ride in other— people taking them for a ride in other cases. as paul has said, there is no _ other cases. as paul has said, there is no issue _ other cases. as paul has said, there is no issue about needing medical information to be able to process your claim. — information to be able to process your claim. but month in, month out, more _ your claim. but month in, month out, more and _ your claim. but month in, month out, more and more requests for photographs, more and more... it is the way— photographs, more and more... it is the way that— photographs, more and more... it is the way that you are treated. again, as per— the way that you are treated. again, as per the _ the way that you are treated. again, as per the letter to paul, people saying. — as per the letter to paul, people saying, you claim you are injured. he was— saying, you claim you are injured. he was in— saying, you claim you are injured. he was in hospital for months. it's not hard _ he was in hospital for months. it's not hard to— he was in hospital for months. it's not hard to show he was injured. just the — not hard to show he was injured. just the entire basis of it. what happened, in 2018 the government recognised that there is a big problem _ recognised that there is a big problem at the criminal injuries compensation authority. they say there _ compensation authority. they say there is _ compensation authority. they say there is going to be a review. that review _ there is going to be a review. that review was— there is going to be a review. that review was under way. we have not had a _ review was under way. we have not
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had a response. in 2020, they said they would — had a response. in 2020, they said they would be a new fund supporting survivors. _ they would be a new fund supporting survivors. that has not materialised. that is why this week we went— materialised. that is why this week we went to — materialised. that is why this week we went to government to say that has to— we went to government to say that has to change. we went to government to say that has to change-— has to change. paul, did you ever receive an — has to change. paul, did you ever receive an explanation, _ has to change. paul, did you ever receive an explanation, or- has to change. paul, did you ever receive an explanation, or an i receive an explanation, or an apology, for the time that it took? no apology. the explanation, which came through my solicitor, he said, basically, i was having ongoing surgery. i've still got more surgery ahead. after every surgery my medical records were changed. i think they see ica kept on saying, we want to make the right decision. you get more surgery and things are happening to you. they kept on saying, we want to make the right decision. for nearly six years i have lived off my savings. i think it is very important _ have lived off my savings. i think it is very important as _ have lived off my savings. i think it is very important as well- have lived off my savings. i think it is very important as well to i it is very important as well to think, if this isn'tjust give me compensation because i suffered in a terror attack, compensation because i suffered in a terrorattack, ora compensation because i suffered in a terror attack, or a violent incident, this is, how do you get on with the rest of your life? you
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touched upon this, brendan. if one person in one house bringing the income into a house is taken, that halves your income. it comes to adapting physically. iam halves your income. it comes to adapting physically. i am sure you are physically adapting a house. funeral gusts as well. all of these things add up. it is notjust reward me. —— funeral costs. things add up. it is not 'ust reward me. -- funeral costs._ things add up. it is not 'ust reward me. -- funeral costs. absolutely. it is very practical— me. -- funeral costs. absolutely. it is very practical things. _ me. -- funeral costs. absolutely. it is very practical things. in _ me. -- funeral costs. absolutely. it is very practical things. in those i is very practical things. in those instances. — is very practical things. in those instances, in the aftermath of the tax, people should have all the capacity— tax, people should have all the capacity to concentrate on dealing with injuries, telling their kids their— with injuries, telling their kids their partner has died. alongside that you — their partner has died. alongside that you are thinking, might not be able to— that you are thinking, might not be able to keep up repayments on my house _ able to keep up repayments on my house. . ., ., , able to keep up repayments on my house. . ., .,, ., , house. paul, one last thought. it is never a wrong _ house. paul, one last thought. it is never a wrong time _ house. paul, one last thought. it is never a wrong time to _ house. paul, one last thought. it is never a wrong time to ask. - house. paul, one last thought. it is never a wrong time to ask. how- house. paul, one last thought. it is| never a wrong time to ask. how are you? you have detailed a lot about your ongoing surgery. haifa you? you have detailed a lot about your ongoing surgery.— you? you have detailed a lot about your ongoing surgery. how are you? eve da your ongoing surgery. how are you? every day is _ your ongoing surgery. how are you? every day is different. _ your ongoing surgery. how are you? every day is different. some - your ongoing surgery. how are you? every day is different. some days i l every day is different. some days i am fine. some days are not. to where i've come from, i never thought,
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they said i would never walk unaided again, at 1.1 they said i would never walk unaided again, at1.i was they said i would never walk unaided again, at 1.1 was going to lose my leg, i have come a long way. i think i need to acknowledge how far i have come. but, yeah, every day, i miss her. i love her. and i miss her every single day.— her. i love her. and i miss her every single day. and you are, of course, talking _ every single day. and you are, of course, talking about _ every single day. and you are, of course, talking about alone. i every single day. and you are, of| course, talking about alone. yes. thank you — course, talking about alone. yes. thank you for— course, talking about alone. yes. thank you for coming _ course, talking about alone. yes. thank you for coming in. - course, talking about alone. .e3 thank you for coming in. and thank you on behalf of those still fighting. brendan, thank you as well. i've passed seven. —— half past seven. that applause is from students at a school whose head teacher, seven months previously, had had a heart attack. nick sheron's life was saved by quick thinking colleagues who are able to
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have because —— help because a defibrillator had been installed in the school. it was all part of moves by the 0liver king foundation. it isa it is a wonderful story. we will bring it to you about quarter past eight. it is well worth hearing. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london. i'm victoria hollins. the nhs is to start a new polio vaccination campaign in london schools for under 115 over fears that uptake is still lagging behind the rest of the country. the most recent tests last detected the virus in sewage in early november but in lesser quantities than in the first part of 2022. health officials believe the spread of poliovirus may have slowed down but say there's no room for complacency. what we're trying to do now that we have less polio virus in the sewage is to target those children who remain unvaccinated. we really don't want to have a case of paralysis. even one case would be a real tragedy.
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because it's completely preventable with vaccination. so the nhs will be reaching out to parents of children aged one to 11 in london and asking them to come forward and catch their children up. londoners are being invited to share memories of lost loved ones on the third anniversary of lockdown. a wall covered with hundreds of daffodils has been unveiled by charity marie curie on the south bank to mark its national day of reflection. the charity will also mark a minute's silence at 12 today to remember those who died during the pandemic and support those grieving in lockdown. this weekend is a highlight in london's sporting calendar — the boat race between oxford and cambridge universities. the volunteer lifeboat crew members from chiswick rnli will be on duty, monitoring the shoreline from start to finish on the four—mile route along the thames and keeping the huge crowds safe on the banks of the river during the race. the tides run extremely fast. the underwater obstacles
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are extremely dangerous. and people forget that it is a dangerous river, so they don't look after themselves quite as much as they could do around the water. let's take a look at the tubes now. still pretty good news if you are planning on using the tube. most lines running a good service. just thejubilee line with minor delays. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's a dry and bright star this morning with some sunshine but it's going to be another unsettled day with some heavy, blustery showers. low pressure to the west of the uk driving the fronts through. it will be a windy day with the wind gusting up to 40 mph, so dry for many to start but the showers quick to arrive, blowing in on the south—westerly wind. still some sunny spells but through the afternoon heavier, more persistent rain from the south but temperatures still reaching 14 celsius. a wet evening but the rain will clear away post midnight, dry with clear skies, so temperatures dropping to five or six celsius.
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tomorrow morning, it will be another bright start with some sunshine, but another unsettled day on the cards. we will see further showers, fronts coming in from the south—west, still breezy for friday and it will stay unsettled into the weekend for saturday and a cold day for sunday and a northerly flow means temperatures dropping especially overnight, sunday into monday, where we are likely to wake up to a frost on monday morning. that's it. have a look at our website for all the latest news or the bbc news app. we're back in half an hour. bye. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. the labour leader sir keir starmer says he'll halve levels of violence against women and girls within a decade of his party taking office — if he's elected. he'll also pledge to raise confidence in the police following that damning report into the metropolitan service by baroness casey.
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we're joined now by the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, who's in stoke ahead of sir keir�*s speech there later today. thank you very much for your time this morning. halving the levels of violence against women and girls. how? , ., ., ., violence against women and girls. how? ,., ., ., ., violence against women and girls. how? ,., ., ., . ., violence against women and girls. how? ,., ., ., ., ., ., how? good morning, charlie. you are rirht, this how? good morning, charlie. you are right. this is — how? good morning, charlie. you are right. this is an _ how? good morning, charlie. you are right, this is an ambitious _ how? good morning, charlie. you are right, this is an ambitious mission i right, this is an ambitious mission because _ right, this is an ambitious mission because we — right, this is an ambitious mission because we do need to halve the level— because we do need to halve the level of— because we do need to halve the level of serious violence including halving _ level of serious violence including halving the level of violence against _ halving the level of violence against women and girls across our country. _ against women and girls across our country. it— against women and girls across our country. it is— against women and girls across our country. it is shamefully high and persistently high as well. it has to start with — persistently high as well. it has to start with overhauling the way the police _ start with overhauling the way the police and — start with overhauling the way the police and criminaljustice system respond _ police and criminaljustice system respond to— police and criminaljustice system respond to domestic abuse and sexual assault. _ respond to domestic abuse and sexual assault. for— respond to domestic abuse and sexual assault. for example, putting domestic— assault. for example, putting domestic abuse experts into 999 control— domestic abuse experts into 999 control rooms so victims get the right— control rooms so victims get the right response from the very beginning the first time they make the call— beginning the first time they make the call to— beginning the first time they make the call to the police, so you intervene _ the call to the police, so you intervene early to prevent domestic
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abuse _ intervene early to prevent domestic abuse escalating and getting worse and worse. it means also having specialist — and worse. it means also having specialist rape investigation units in every— specialist rape investigation units in every police force. it's frankly shocking — in every police force. it's frankly shocking and shameful that we don't have and _ shocking and shameful that we don't have and having specialist rape courts — have and having specialist rape courts to — have and having specialist rape courts to speed up justice, have and having specialist rape courts to speed upjustice, because at the _ courts to speed upjustice, because at the moment only around one and a half percent _ at the moment only around one and a half percent of reported rapes actually — half percent of reported rapes actually even get prosecuted. that is just _ actually even get prosecuted. that isjust appalling. we have to actually even get prosecuted. that is just appalling. we have to turn that around. it means action across policing _ that around. it means action across policing at — that around. it means action across policing at mccrindle justice system. _ policing at mccrindle justice system. it's one of the issues that was raised — system. it's one of the issues that was raised as part of louise casey's damning _ was raised as part of louise casey's damning report, the failure on tackling — damning report, the failure on tackling violence against women and -irls tackling violence against women and girls and _ tackling violence against women and girls and that's why we are making a part of— girls and that's why we are making a part of the _ girls and that's why we are making a part of the labour party mission on crime _ part of the labour party mission on crime alongside raising confidence, restoring _ crime alongside raising confidence, restoring confidence in the police which _ restoring confidence in the police which means wider action to tackle all crimes— which means wider action to tackle all crimes and get police on the beat _ all crimes and get police on the beat as— all crimes and get police on the beat as well.— all crimes and get police on the beat as well. some people get a little dismayed _ beat as well. some people get a little dismayed by _ beat as well. some people get a little dismayed by the _ beat as well. some people get a little dismayed by the languagel little dismayed by the language around these things. is the the same as a pledge? are you saying you will
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do this or hope to do this? the reason keir _ do this or hope to do this? the reason keir starmer has described these _ reason keir starmer has described these as— reason keir starmer has described these as being missions for the labour— these as being missions for the labour government is that this is something we need to work across government to do and we need everybody involved. we need the police _ everybody involved. we need the police to — everybody involved. we need the police to change, the criminal justice — police to change, the criminal justice system to change but we also need everybody working together i’i l ht need everybody working together right through from schools working on prevention of knife crime right through— on prevention of knife crime right through to — on prevention of knife crime right through to local councils from organisations, which is why he describes— organisations, which is why he describes as a mission. we are saying — describes as a mission. we are saying this _ describes as a mission. we are saying this is our commitment and this is— saying this is our commitment and this is what— saying this is our commitment and this is what we plan to do, and this is how— this is what we plan to do, and this is how we — this is what we plan to do, and this is how we will work with everyone to do so. _ is how we will work with everyone to do so. , , ., do so. the problem, you understand, is that every — do so. the problem, you understand, is that every administration _ do so. the problem, you understand, is that every administration that i is that every administration that has come into government has made a pledge about crime and bringing crime down, so let's talk about specifics. undera labour specifics. under a labour administration, specifics. undera labour administration, would you commit that a police officer goes out to every incident recorded of domestic violence? we
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every incident recorded of domestic violence? ~ ~, every incident recorded of domestic violence? ~ ,, ~' , every incident recorded of domestic violence? i, ~ , , i, violence? we do think they should, es. m violence? we do think they should, yes- my question — violence? we do think they should, yes. my question was _ violence? we do think they should, yes. my question was very - violence? we do think they should, yes. my question was very specific| yes. my question was very specific and i asked _ yes. my question was very specific and i asked it _ yes. my question was very specific and i asked it in _ yes. my question was very specific and i asked it in a _ yes. my question was very specific and i asked it in a specific - yes. my question was very specific and i asked it in a specific way. - and i asked it in a specific way. would they go out? you think they should, but under a labour administration given the pledge you are putting out, would a police officer attend every incident of domestic violence, every report? we domestic violence, every report? we do expect them to, yes. because we think_ do expect them to, yes. because we think this _ do expect them to, yes. because we think this is — do expect them to, yes. because we think this is the job police need to do. think this is the job police need to do we _ think this is the job police need to do we see — think this is the job police need to do. we see really awful cases, including — do. we see really awful cases, including the west midlands where the police did not respond, they did not respond to really serious domestic— not respond to really serious domestic abuse calls, and in the end, _ domestic abuse calls, and in the end. two— domestic abuse calls, and in the end, two women lost their lives as a resutt— end, two women lost their lives as a result so— end, two women lost their lives as a result so that's why this is so important _ result so that's why this is so important. and we would hold the police _ important. and we would hold the police to _ important. and we would hold the police to account for this as well. we are _ police to account for this as well. we are setting high standards. we know_ we are setting high standards. we know across the country there are police _ know across the country there are police officers who are doing excellent work on tackling violence,
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but overall, the system isjust not working _ but overall, the system isjust not working and that is why we in the labour_ working and that is why we in the labour government would set higher standards— labour government would set higher standards and expect police forces to meet _ standards and expect police forces to meet those high standards as well, _ to meet those high standards as well, and — to meet those high standards as well, and you've also got to deal with some — well, and you've also got to deal with some of the prevention issues. for example, we know young men are often _ for example, we know young men are often targeted by online extreme misogyny. the way in which algorithms work, that social media companies — algorithms work, that social media companies don't take responsibility for. companies don't take responsibility for~ this _ companies don't take responsibility for~ this is — companies don't take responsibility for. this is why this is about prevention but also about much stronger— prevention but also about much stronger and swifter police response. stronger and swifter police response-_ stronger and swifter police resonse. �* , . , stronger and swifter police resonse. �* , . y ., response. i'm very much trying to net a response. i'm very much trying to get a handle _ response. i'm very much trying to get a handle on _ response. i'm very much trying to get a handle on what _ response. i'm very much trying to get a handle on what it _ response. i'm very much trying to get a handle on what it is - response. i'm very much trying to get a handle on what it is you - get a handle on what it is you are committing to. so in a similar vein, will you commit under a labour administration that all victim of residential burglaries would be visited by a police officer? yes. visited by a police officer? yes, that's already _ visited by a police officer? yes, that's already the _ visited by a police officer? yes, that's already the commitment and we continue _ that's already the commitment and we continue to— that's already the commitment and we continue to support that. but that's already the commitment and we continue to support that.— continue to support that. but the lanauuae continue to support that. but the language here — continue to support that. but the language here again _ continue to support that. but the language here again becomes . language here again becomes interesting, because what you said
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is kind of what everyone says and what ordinary people would say. i would expect that if i'm the victim of domestic violence allegations, i would expect that and hope for it. what you are saying is the same as everyone else says, you would hope for it and expect it, but we all live in the real world and we know that's not happening. but what would be different with you in charge? what would be different is that we would _ what would be different is that we would set — what would be different is that we would set standards for police forces — would set standards for police forces and then we would also have a much _ forces and then we would also have a much stronger system around standards to take action when police forces _ standards to take action when police forces don't meet those standards, so at _ forces don't meet those standards, so at the _ forces don't meet those standards, so at the moment the way the home office _ so at the moment the way the home office works is they are very hands off and _ office works is they are very hands off and may take a back—seat. if police _ off and may take a back—seat. if police forces going to effectively what is — police forces going to effectively what is called special measures where — what is called special measures where they are not succeeding, for example. — where they are not succeeding, for example, that's what happened to the metropolitan police, the home office stands _ metropolitan police, the home office stands back and shrug their shoulders and says nothing to do with us — shoulders and says nothing to do with us. we want to see our stronger standards— with us. we want to see our stronger standards regime where there is stronger— standards regime where there is stronger action and intervention at
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an early— stronger action and intervention at an early stage when police forces go wrong, _ an early stage when police forces go wrong, and — an early stage when police forces go wrong, and we would put national standards — wrong, and we would put national standards in place including mandatory standards. for example, we have had _ mandatory standards. for example, we have had the _ mandatory standards. for example, we have had the louise casey report and part of— have had the louise casey report and part of it _ have had the louise casey report and part of it was not tackling sexual assault _ part of it was not tackling sexual assault and domestic abuse by police officers _ assault and domestic abuse by police officers. truly shocking that is not being _ officers. truly shocking that is not being dealt with. we would set national— being dealt with. we would set national standards underpinned by law that _ national standards underpinned by law that there should be vetting standards and standards if a police officer— standards and standards if a police officer is _ standards and standards if a police officer is investigated for domestic abuse _ officer is investigated for domestic abuse or— officer is investigated for domestic abuse or rape, they should be automatically suspended. it is shameful they are not. what we are saying _ shameful they are not. what we are saying are _ shameful they are not. what we are saying are setting standards for the police _ saying are setting standards for the police and — saying are setting standards for the police and ultimately the police have _ police and ultimately the police have to — police and ultimately the police have to do that job. it's police and ultimately the police have to do thatjob. it's not going to be _ have to do thatjob. it's not going to be home office ministers who would _ to be home office ministers who would be — to be home office ministers who would be walking out, or labour home office _ would be walking out, or labour home office minister is going and knocking on peoples doors. that is for the _ knocking on peoples doors. that is for the police to do. at a labour home _ for the police to do. at a labour home office would set those standards and would take action if the standards are not met. we would follow _ the standards are not met. we would follow up _ the standards are not met. we would follow up with police forces to make sure we _ follow up with police forces to make sure we are — follow up with police forces to make sure we are getting the action. i think— sure we are getting the action. i think police forces do want to do this but— think police forces do want to do this but they are not getting the
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support— this but they are not getting the support from the home office to do it and _ support from the home office to do it and not— support from the home office to do it and not having that partnership working. — it and not having that partnership working, and as part of this, we would _ working, and as part of this, we would ensure there are 13,000 more neighbourhood police and pcs owes on the beat _ neighbourhood police and pcs owes on the beat in _ neighbourhood police and pcs owes on the beat in communities because we have lost— the beat in communities because we have lost that neighbourhood connection. if you get neighbourhood police, _ connection. if you get neighbourhood police, they often know the community and they know who is vulnerable — community and they know who is vulnerable to getting drawn into knife _ vulnerable to getting drawn into knife crime because we need to halve that as _ knife crime because we need to halve that as welt — knife crime because we need to halve that as well. they know which families— that as well. they know which families are vulnerable and where they can _ families are vulnerable and where they can get the intelligence and they can get the intelligence and the reports around things like domestic abuse as well. so we have to have _ domestic abuse as well. so we have to have the — domestic abuse as well. so we have to have the police back in the community and we don't see that at the moment. that is what labour would _ the moment. that is what labour would restore.— the moment. that is what labour would restore. , ., ~ would restore. yvette cooper, thank ou for would restore. yvette cooper, thank you for your — would restore. yvette cooper, thank you for your time. _ would restore. yvette cooper, thank you for your time. thanks, - would restore. yvette cooper, thank you for your time. thanks, charlie. i you for your time. thanks, charlie. what is happening _ you for your time. thanks, charlie. what is happening at _ you for your time. thanks, charlie. what is happening at manchester l what is happening at manchester united? it’s what is happening at manchester united? �* , . what is happening at manchester united? 3 . , what is happening at manchester united? �* , ., , ., what is happening at manchester united? 2 ., , ., | united? it's all up in the air. i thouuht united? it's all up in the air. i thought this _ united? it's all up in the air. i thought this would _ united? it's all up in the air. i thought this would be - thought this would be straightforward. thought this would be strairhtforward. . , straightforward. manchester united fans have been _ straightforward. manchester united fans have been excited _ straightforward. manchester united fans have been excited all - straightforward. manchester united fans have been excited all week- straightforward. manchester united | fans have been excited all week and i've been on the forums to see their reaction to their potentially hitting the jackpot of them big two
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bidders and torque of 2 billion to spend on players and management over three years if one of the big takeovers went through and then suddenly last night it's all up for grabs again. suddenly last night it's all up for grabs again-— suddenly last night it's all up for crabs aaain. .,, ., ., ., grabs again. there was a deadline of sorts. grabs again. there was a deadline of sorts- nine — grabs again. there was a deadline of sorts. nine o'clock— grabs again. there was a deadline of sorts. nine o'clock last _ grabs again. there was a deadline of sorts. nine o'clock last night, - grabs again. there was a deadline of sorts. nine o'clock last night, but. sorts. nine o'clock last night, but was it a real deadline?— was it a real deadline? there was talk the deadline _ was it a real deadline? there was talk the deadline had _ was it a real deadline? there was talk the deadline had been - was it a real deadline? there was talk the deadline had been met i was it a real deadline? there was i talk the deadline had been met but thenit talk the deadline had been met but then it came out that we haven't got any bids, the people in new york expecting them to come in and they said the two main bidders have not submitted any bids. i will try to explain. to put the fans minds at rest, they are very nervous and checking their phones. the race to buy manchester united was blown wide open late last night. for so long, it looked as though the new investment would come from either qatari banker sheikh jassim, or ineos owner, sirjim ratcliffe — both with reported world record bids. somewhere in the region of £5 billion. before last night's 9 o'clock deadline they had been, the only two interested parties to go public — and it was understood
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they'd submitted revised offers. but it later emerged that their bids hadn't been received, and that the deadline has now been extended for them — and then it emerged that the deadline had been met by �*several�* other potential investors. it's unclear what the new timeframe is for any new offers for the club. just over 100 days since the end of their world cup and england are preparing to start the journey towards the next major tournament. they're in italy for a euro 2024 qualifier tonight. no england team has won in italy since the early 1960's and even though the italians failed to make the world cup, they are the reigning european champions, having beaten england in the final in 2021. despite that declan rice feels they've learned from that.. even though we lost, as a group of players, there was a belief in the room that we can compete with the best. it's down to us now to go that one step ahead and beat a top nation and win a trophy. that's all that is on our mind,
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starting tomorrow night, trying to beat italy and starting our campaign off well. northern ireland are also in action tonight and are big favourites to open their campaign with a win against san marino — who have never won a competitive match in their history. it's michael o'neill�*s first game back in charge since being re—appointed as manager in december. scotland and wales have their first matches on saturday. what a result for chelsea's women in the quarter finals of the champions league. they beat the defending champions, lyon, 1—0 in france — guro reiten with the only goal. both sides hit the post — but it's chelsea with the advantage heading back to stamford bridge next week for the second leg. now he's regarded as one of the best goal keepers to have ever played in the premier league, in the premier league, and now petr cech, the former chelsea and arsenal keeper, is excelling in goal, and could be about to lift another
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trophy, for chelmsford. he's taken his skills onto the ice — cech has spent time, with the guildford phoenix hockey team here, but now turns out, as a netminder for the the chelmsford chieftains. and this weekend, they take on invicta dynamos, in a two—legged final in the national league division one, south, cup. tough old game, ice hockey. at least you have the padding on, i don't know whether it's more difficult going a goal in the ice hockey or in the premier league for chelsea. i wouldn't want to do either. i wouldn't want to do either. i wouldn't mind being in the ice hockey, the padding is they are the goals are quite small. in hockey, the padding is they are the goals are quite small.— goals are quite small. in your wide and varied — goals are quite small. in your wide and varied career _ goals are quite small. in your wide and varied career you _ goals are quite small. in your wide and varied career you have - goals are quite small. in your wide and varied career you have done i and varied career you have done that. ., , ,., ., and varied career you have done that. ., , ., , , that. oh, i am spotting a sunrise. we are being _ that. oh, i am spotting a sunrise. we are being spoiled _ that. oh, i am spotting a sunrise. we are being spoiled by - that. oh, i am spotting a sunrise. we are being spoiled by matt - that. oh, i am spotting a sunrise. | we are being spoiled by matt with some glorious pictures. good morning. ido i do spoil it straight afterwards. you are — i do spoil it straight afterwards. you are standing in front of it, yes. you are standing in front of it, es. . ~' you are standing in front of it, es. ., ~ ,., ., ., . yes. fighting talk. good morning. we have a bit of— yes. fighting talk. good morning. we have a bit of sunshine _ yes. fighting talk. good morning. we have a bit of sunshine across - yes. fighting talk. good morning. we have a bit of sunshine across the - have a bit of sunshine across the country — have a bit of sunshine across the country this— have a bit of sunshine across the country this morning, a beautiful start— country this morning, a beautiful start to _ country this morning, a beautiful start to the day for some of you and
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if you're _ start to the day for some of you and if you're going to head out of the door, _ if you're going to head out of the door, be — if you're going to head out of the door, be wary. take a look at this. a weather— door, be wary. take a look at this. a weather watcher is shot from cumbria, — a weather watcher is shot from cumbria, difference guys and it will be one _ cumbria, difference guys and it will be one of— cumbria, difference guys and it will be one of those days where we see the cloud _ be one of those days where we see the cloud bubble up and some of us will see _ the cloud bubble up and some of us will see downpours heading our way. a big _ will see downpours heading our way. a big picture from space shows all the clouds — a big picture from space shows all the clouds swirling around in a massive — the clouds swirling around in a massive area of low pressure in the atlantic _ massive area of low pressure in the atlantic. these are the shower clouds — atlantic. these are the shower clouds and the more widespread cloud is in the _ clouds and the more widespread cloud is in the south later but for the time _ is in the south later but for the time being, heavy, thundery downpours pushing across northern england _ downpours pushing across northern england and north—west wales. more persistent— england and north—west wales. more persistent rain to the north of mainland _ persistent rain to the north of mainland scotland will be drifting slowly _ mainland scotland will be drifting slowly across orkney but will linger for a good — slowly across orkney but will linger for a good part of the day and the odd shower elsewhere. mostly dry but showers _ odd shower elsewhere. mostly dry but showers will build up across england and wales— showers will build up across england and wales more widely with more persistent— and wales more widely with more persistent rain pushing in through the channel islands and southern counties — the channel islands and southern counties later as well. and it will be quite — counties later as well. and it will be quite a — counties later as well. and it will be quite a blustery day. the wind is not as _ be quite a blustery day. the wind is not as strong as yesterday across scotland _ not as strong as yesterday across scotland and northern ireland, but england _ scotland and northern ireland, but england and wales could seek wins top gale _ england and wales could seek wins top gale force but like yesterday and so _ top gale force but like yesterday and so far— top gale force but like yesterday and so far this week the wind is coming — and so far this week the wind is coming in— and so far this week the wind is coming in from the south—west so a
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mild stable — coming in from the south—west so a mild stable temperatures up to 15 or 16 degrees. a few of you will get through— 16 degrees. a few of you will get through the day dry but we will go into the _ through the day dry but we will go into the evening rush hour with more persistent— into the evening rush hour with more persistent rain to the south—east corner— persistent rain to the south—east corner and — persistent rain to the south—east corner and we could get into the midlands — corner and we could get into the midlands for a time. it clears tonight, _ midlands for a time. it clears tonight, then clear spells and a scattering of showers, most frequent for the _ scattering of showers, most frequent for the northern half of the country and temperatures in mid—single figures — and temperatures in mid—single figures as— and temperatures in mid—single figures as we start tomorrow, so fairly— figures as we start tomorrow, so fairly similar if a bit cooler than today — fairly similar if a bit cooler than today a— fairly similar if a bit cooler than today. a quick look at tomorrow before _ today. a quick look at tomorrow before we — today. a quick look at tomorrow before we go. a sunny start for a few before we go. a sunny start fora few of— before we go. a sunny start for a few of you — before we go. a sunny start for a few of you but the shower clouds building — few of you but the shower clouds building up, quite widespread especially for england, wales and northern— especially for england, wales and northern ireland and when we see them _ northern ireland and when we see them they— northern ireland and when we see them they could be thundery but it will change over the weekend and turns— will change over the weekend and turns colder by sunday.— will change over the weekend and turns colder by sunday. matt, thank ou ve turns colder by sunday. matt, thank you very much- _ a new series of race across the world began on bbc one last night. it's the show where five teams have to travel vast distances without the usual mod cons like smart phones, credit cards. . . .and aeroplanes. this time they're trying to cross canada from vancouver in the west
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to stjohn's in the east. let's see how they got on in the first episode. across the water, one of the three teams on a wet and windy vancouver island. monique and ladi are looking for a way off it. the island. monique and ladi are looking for a way off it— for a way off it. the only ferry is in two days- _ for a way off it. the only ferry is in two days. then _ for a way off it. the only ferry is in two days. then the _ for a way off it. the only ferry is in two days. then the next - for a way off it. the only ferry is in two days. then the next one | for a way off it. the only ferry is - in two days. then the next one again is when? ., ., , ~ in two days. then the next one again is when? . ., , .. so is when? that would be next week. so we have to get — is when? that would be next week. so we have to get on _ is when? that would be next week. so we have to get on that _ is when? that would be next week. so we have to get on that ferry. - is when? that would be next week. so we have to get on that ferry. two - we have to get on that ferry. two reach prince _ we have to get on that ferry. two reach prince rupert, the teams on vancouver island must catch a ferry from the north. running just once a week, the next departs in two days' time, almost 400 kilometres away. if we knew this before hand, i wouldn't have come this route, i would have done a different route. but have come this route, i would have done a different route.— have come this route, i would have done a different route. but we don't know what the _ done a different route. but we don't know what the problems _ done a different route. but we don't know what the problems would - done a different route. but we don't know what the problems would be l done a different route. but we don't i know what the problems would be with a different _ know what the problems would be with a different route. it's not like we can go— a different route. it's not like we can go on— a different route. it's not like we
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can go on google. but you know what, it's not— can go on google. but you know what, it's not that _ can go on google. but you know what, it's not that deep, we are here now, so i think— it's not that deep, we are here now, so i think we — it's not that deep, we are here now, so i think we need to find a bus that— so i think we need to find a bus that can — so i think we need to find a bus that can take us north. father and daughter duo ladi and moniquejoin us now. when you came in i was trying to assess the body language and see who had annoyed more —— who more, but it was like we are in it together and i will go to you first, monique. did you suggest this? i will go to you first, monique. did you suggest this?— will go to you first, monique. did you suggest this? i did. i suggested it to dad, you suggest this? i did. i suggested it to dad. and _ you suggest this? i did. i suggested it to dad. and i _ you suggest this? i did. i suggested it to dad, and i don't _ you suggest this? i did. i suggested it to dad, and i don't know- you suggest this? i did. i suggested it to dad, and i don't know why - it to dad, and i don't know why because i've never backpacked, and i was like, oh, we should do a challenge and we get to travel together and see a lot of the world, so why not? so we sort of stumbled into it and ifeel like so why not? so we sort of stumbled into it and i feel like we are really close anyway, so in terms of our relationship i didn't have any qualms. our relationship i didn't have any aualms. , , . .,, qualms. there is being close with our qualms. there is being close with your parents _ qualms. there is being close with your parents and _ qualms. there is being close with your parents and then _ qualms. there is being close with your parents and then there - qualms. there is being close with your parents and then there is - qualms. there is being close with i your parents and then there is going on holiday under challenging circumstances and travelling. it was
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ok, circumstances and travelling. it was ok. honestly. _ circumstances and travelling. it was ok. honestly. it— circumstances and travelling. it was ok, honestly, it was _ circumstances and travelling. it was ok, honestly, it was fine. _ circumstances and travelling. it was ok, honestly, it was fine. i- circumstances and travelling. it was ok, honestly, it was fine. i don't i ok, honestly, it was fine. i don't think tension were that high. we are not argumentative people. who think tension were that high. we are not argumentative people.— not argumentative people. who is in char: e? not argumentative people. who is in charae? i not argumentative people. who is in charge? i am — not argumentative people. who is in charge? i am the _ not argumentative people. who is in charge? i am the dad, _ not argumentative people. who is in charge? i am the dad, so _ not argumentative people. who is in charge? i am the dad, so i— not argumentative people. who is in charge? i am the dad, so i got - not argumentative people. who is in charge? i am the dad, so i got to . not argumentative people. who is in charge? i am the dad, so i got to bej charge? i am the dad, so i got to be in charue, charge? i am the dad, so i got to be in charge. and _ charge? i am the dad, so i got to be in charge. and i— charge? i am the dad, so i got to be in charge, and i allowed _ charge? i am the dad, so i got to be in charge, and i allowed my - charge? i am the dad, so i got to be | in charge, and i allowed my daughter to take _ in charge, and i allowed my daughter to take control of certain things. 0k, to take control of certain things. 0k. is— to take control of certain things. 0k. is that — to take control of certain things. ok, is that right? is that the right portrayal? he 0k, is that right? is that the right ortra al? �* . ., portrayal? he thinks i'm in charge, but i'm the — portrayal? he thinks i'm in charge, but i'm the leader. _ portrayal? he thinks i'm in charge, but i'm the leader. i'm _ portrayal? he thinks i'm in charge, but i'm the leader. i'm in - portrayal? he thinks i'm in charge, but i'm the leader. i'm in charge. l but i'm the leader. i'm in charge. so he is allowing you to follow his advice and you're allowing him to think he is in charge.— think he is in charge. absolutely. that's an interesting _ think he is in charge. absolutely. that's an interesting dynamic. is| that's an interesting dynamic. is that how it works, ladi? i that's an interesting dynamic. is that how it works, ladi?- that's an interesting dynamic. is that how it works, ladi? i raised as a princess. — that how it works, ladi? i raised as a princess, so... _ that how it works, ladi? i raised as a princess, so... you _ that how it works, ladi? i raised as a princess, so... you can _ that how it works, ladi? i raised as a princess, so... you can raise i a princess, so... you can raise someone _ a princess, so... you can raise someone as— a princess, so... you can raise someone as a _ a princess, so... you can raise someone as a princess - a princess, so... you can raise someone as a princess and i a princess, so... you can raisej someone as a princess and it's a princess, so... you can raise i someone as a princess and it's all very lovely but it's not always practical. did think about this trip is perhaps an opportunity to equip monique with more tools? yes. is perhaps an opportunity to equip monique with more tools? yes, it's all about the _ monique with more tools? yes, it's all about the small _ monique with more tools? yes, it's all about the small little _ monique with more tools? yes, it's all about the small little life - all about the small little life lessons that sometimes this particular generation, and i would
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say monique in particular, may kind of gloss over. you know, this is about life lessons, so if dad is never around, she can equip herself and navigate the world as best as possible. i and navigate the world as best as ossible. , , ., ., possible. i will put you on the sot. possible. i will put you on the spot- 0n _ possible. i will put you on the spot- on your— possible. i will put you on the spot. on your behalf, - possible. i will put you on the spot. on your behalf, what i possible. i will put you on the | spot. on your behalf, what did possible. i will put you on the i spot. on your behalf, what did you learn from your daughter? so far we are hearing all of the learning is going in that direction, but what did you learn? for me it's about learning that my daughter is brilliant. ,, , , , , brilliant. she is resilient, she is smart, brilliant. she is resilient, she is smart. she _ brilliant. she is resilient, she is smart. she is — brilliant. she is resilient, she is smart, she is hard-working, i brilliant. she is resilient, she is| smart, she is hard-working, and brilliant. she is resilient, she is i smart, she is hard-working, and she smart, she is hard—working, and she can actually navigate her way through things quite well, so, you can do this, oh, you are not too bad at that, so it was really good to see that because she's an adult and growing into her adult hood, and she is no longer a child any more, well, she will always be my child, but she is an adult in her own right. i learnt a lot about her. so monique was riaht, learnt a lot about her. so monique was right, because _ learnt a lot about her. so monique was right, because she _ learnt a lot about her. so monique was right, because she just - learnt a lot about her. so monique was right, because she just pulled |
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was right, because she just pulled the wool over your eyes and got you to do stuff. the wool over your eyes and got you to do stuff-— the wool over your eyes and got you to do stuff-- if _ the wool over your eyes and got you to do stuff.- if you _ the wool over your eyes and got you to do stuff.- if you pretend l to do stuff. exactly! if you pretend ou can't to do stuff. exactly! if you pretend you can't do _ to do stuff. exactly! if you pretend you can't do it. — to do stuff. exactly! if you pretend you can't do it, someone - to do stuff. exactly! if you pretend you can't do it, someone will i to do stuff. exactly! if you pretend you can't do it, someone will step| you can't do it, someone will step in and do it. you can't do it, someone will step in and do it— you can't do it, someone will step in and do it._ for| in and do it. that's exactly it. for those people _ in and do it. that's exactly it. for those people who _ in and do it. that's exactly it. for those people who haven't - in and do it. that's exactly it. for those people who haven't seen . in and do it. that's exactly it. for i those people who haven't seen the programme, you are given a budget but the budget is too small to make the journey, but the budget is too small to make thejourney, which is an enormous journey, so give us a sense of how hard it was, the scale of what you had to achieve without spoiling anything? it had to achieve without spoiling an hinu ? . , had to achieve without spoiling an hinu? . ., had to achieve without spoiling an him? . ., , anything? it was challenging, very challenging- _ anything? it was challenging, very challenging. you _ anything? it was challenging, very challenging. you come _ anything? it was challenging, very challenging. you come across i challenging. you come across challenges that you don't expect or anticipate — challenges that you don't expect or anticipate. 35m challenges that you don't expect or antici ate. �* ., , , ., anticipate. an example being what? an example — anticipate. an example being what? an example being _ anticipate. an example being what? an example being getting _ anticipate. an example being what? an example being getting to - anticipate. an example being what? an example being getting to the i an example being getting to the ferry terminal and expecting the ferry— ferry terminal and expecting the ferry to — ferry terminal and expecting the ferry to be there, like in london or england _ ferry to be there, like in london or england and — ferry to be there, like in london or england and it not being there. and that can be for _ england and it not being there. fific that can be for days on england and it not being there. el"ic that can be for days on end. it's gone a few days ago and you have to wait. �* , ,., , gone a few days ago and you have to wait. n, , gone a few days ago and you have to wait. absolutely, so it was very challenging- — wait. absolutely, so it was very challenging. are _ wait. absolutely, so it was very challenging. are you _ wait. absolutely, so it was very challenging. are you based i wait. absolutely, so it was very challenging. are you based in l wait. absolutely, so it was very l challenging. are you based in the ci ? in challenging. are you based in the city? in london? _ challenging. are you based in the city? in london? what— challenging. are you based in the city? in london? what was- challenging. are you based in the city? in london? what was it i challenging. are you based in the city? in london? what was it likej challenging. are you based in the i city? in london? what was it like as a city dweller relying on the kindness of strangers, because that
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doesn't tend to be something that citydwellers do. ila. doesn't tend to be something that citydwellers do.— citydwellers do. no, you have got the blinkers _ citydwellers do. no, you have got the blinkers on, _ citydwellers do. no, you have got the blinkers on, blinkers - citydwellers do. no, you have got the blinkers on, blinkers on, i citydwellers do. no, you have got the blinkers on, blinkers on, on l citydwellers do. no, you have got l the blinkers on, blinkers on, on the way to— the blinkers on, blinkers on, on the way to work— the blinkers on, blinkers on, on the way to work on the tube, you don't even _ way to work on the tube, you don't even look— way to work on the tube, you don't even look up — way to work on the tube, you don't even look up and i found that quite hard and _ even look up and i found that quite hard and i— even look up and i found that quite hard and i would say, dad, you go and talk— hard and i would say, dad, you go and talk to— hard and i would say, dad, you go and talk to that person. i am hard and i would say, dad, you go and talk to that person.— and talk to that person. i am old school, and talk to that person. i am old school. so _ and talk to that person. i am old school, so i've _ and talk to that person. i am old school, so i've grown _ and talk to that person. i am old school, so i've grown up - and talk to that person. i am old school, so i've grown up with i and talk to that person. i am old | school, so i've grown up with not having a mobile phone and instant technology, so the art of having conversations, building relationships with people, i'm ok with that. i must admit there were some times where you're thinking, that person looks a bit dodgy but we need to get out of here. but in truth, just having that conversation with people, being conversational, being relationship driven and not transactional, that is the way which you do it. and then there are the maps. you do it. and then there are the ma s. ., you do it. and then there are the ma 5. ., ., " ., ., ., you do it. and then there are the ma s. ., ., " ., ., ., maps. you talk about an age thing. i dare sa , maps. you talk about an age thing. i dare say. had _ maps. you talk about an age thing. i dare say. had you — maps. you talk about an age thing. i dare say, had you ever _ maps. you talk about an age thing. i dare say, had you ever looked i maps. you talk about an age thing. i dare say, had you ever looked at i maps. you talk about an age thing. i dare say, had you ever looked at a i dare say, had you ever looked at a map, and this is not a criticism, had you opened a map, a paper map? i
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remember printing of 80 z had you opened a map, a paper map? i remember printing of 80 2 direction is when _ remember printing of 80 2 direction is when i _ remember printing of 80 2 direction is when i was younger, but that's about— is when i was younger, but that's about it — is when i was younger, but that's about it. ., ., ., ., ., about it. -- a to z. you would have been familiar— about it. -- a to z. you would have been familiar with _ about it. -- a to z. you would have been familiar with the _ about it. -- a to z. you would have been familiar with the idea - about it. -- a to z. you would have been familiar with the idea of- been familiar with the idea of finding things on a map. definitely. not too many _ finding things on a map. definitely. not too many years _ finding things on a map. definitely. not too many years ago. _ finding things on a map. definitely. not too many years ago. but, i finding things on a map. definitely. not too many years ago. but, yes, | finding things on a map. definitely. | not too many years ago. but, yes, i definitely am familiar with the maps and i can navigate and i can do those things reasonably well. i'm not saying i'm an expert, but getting around and finding the places on the map is good but nobody understands the vastness of canada. no, land, sea, no air. talking of the sea, let's take a look. with time to kill before the ferry departs the island, an opportunity to catch sight of the killer whales that follow schools of pacific salmon as they migrate north. i’m salmon as they migrate north. i'm hoinr to salmon as they migrate north. i'm hoping to see a dolphin. i will, my god, _ hoping to see a dolphin. i will, my god, it's _ hoping to see a dolphin. i will, my god, it's a — hoping to see a dolphin. i will, my god, it's a sea lion.— hoping to see a dolphin. i will, my god, it's a sea lion. sounds like we saw something _ god, it's a sea lion. sounds like we saw something that _ god, it's a sea lion. sounds like we saw something that sounds -
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god, it's a sea lion. sounds like we saw something that sounds like i god, it's a sea lion. sounds like we | saw something that sounds like you snoring. this feels like why we came on this adventure, because this is priceless. i don't know what i'm looking at. there is the guy. i’m looking at. there is the guy. i'm hoinu looking at. there is the guy. i'm heping just _ looking at. there is the guy. i'm heping just to — looking at. there is the guy. i'm hoping just to chill out —— in the heat _ hoping just to chill out —— in the heat and — hoping just to chill out —— in the heat and have a swim. that is fine to m _ heat and have a swim. that is fine to me. ~ . heat and have a swim. that is fine to me-- there. _ heat and have a swim. that is fine to me.- there, c. _ heat and have a swim. that is fine to me.- there, c.— heat and have a swim. that is fine l to me.- there, c._ i to me. what? there, c. i blinked. i mean, to me. what? there, c. i blinked. i mean. you've _ to me. what? there, c. i blinked. i mean, you've seen _ to me. what? there, c. i blinked. i mean, you've seen some amazing l mean, you've seen some amazing things. we are talking today about people annoying habits, little ordinary things that get on your nerves. you just spent a lot of time with your dad in close proximity. have there been things that have been really annoying that he has done? . , been really annoying that he has done? ., , ,, ., , done? little habits? snoring, but that's not his _ done? little habits? snoring, but that's not his fault, _ done? little habits? snoring, but that's not his fault, but _ done? little habits? snoring, but that's not his fault, but it's - done? little habits? snoring, but that's not his fault, but it's the i that's not his fault, but it's the worst— that's not his fault, but it's the worst thing ever. i like silence,
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pitch— worst thing ever. i like silence, pitch black, going to sleep. is worst thing ever. i like silence, pitch black, going to sleep. is it pitch black, going to sleep. is it bad? very _ pitch black, going to sleep. is it bad? very bad. _ pitch black, going to sleep. is it bad? very bad, like a walrus. it is fair to ask bad? very bad, like a walrus. it is fairto ask ladi bad? very bad, like a walrus. it is fair to ask ladi the same thing. let'sjust say that fair to ask ladi the same thing. let's just say that monica doesn't necessarily take in her surroundings sometimes and misses things, so, that's annoying. it's like, didn't you see that? no, totally oblivious. you have spoiled nothing about what is coming up, because let's not forget it is a competition, so we will see how you fared, but the first episode was yesterday and thank you so much both of you for coming in. race across the world is on bbc one on wednesdays at 9pm — and on the iplayer. we were asking questions about little things, and noises, like snoring we have heard about. but there are other sounds. are we going to be talking about chewing? chewing.
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it does actually make me... it makes my neck do that. it it does actually make me... it makes my neck do that-— my neck do that. it doesn't sound too bad. don't— my neck do that. it doesn't sound too bad. don't play _ my neck do that. it doesn't sound too bad. don't play it _ my neck do that. it doesn't sound too bad. don't play it again, - my neck do that. it doesn't sound | too bad. don't play it again, come on, it's alloying. _ too bad. don't play it again, come on, it's alloying. can _ too bad. don't play it again, come on, it's alloying. can we _ too bad. don't play it again, come on, it's alloying. can we make - too bad. don't play it again, come on, it's alloying. can we make it l on, it's alloying. can we make it louder? if— on, it's alloying. can we make it louder? if you _ on, it's alloying. can we make it louder? if you find _ on, it's alloying. can we make it louder? if you find it _ on, it's alloying. can we make it louder? if you find it really - louder? if you find it really annoying _ louder? if you find it really annoying or _ louder? if you find it really annoying or you _ louder? if you find it really annoying or you are - louder? if you find it really - annoying or you are panicking. if it makes you angry, disgusted or even panicked then you might have a condition called misophonia, which afflicts around one in five of us, according to a new study. we'll speak to one of the researchers at 850, we'd love to hear which noises you can't stand. you can tweet us, or email, and you can now send us a message on whatsapp — the number is 0330123 olilio, orjust scan the qr code with your phone's camera. and if you found that annoying. i don't do that routinely. i bet and if you found that annoying. i don't do that routinely.— don't do that routinely. i bet you don't do that routinely. i bet you do something. _ don't do that routinely. i bet you do something. do _ don't do that routinely. i bet you do something. do you _ don't do that routinely. i bet you do something. do you click - don't do that routinely. i bet you do something. do you click your| do something. do you click your fingers? i do something. do you click your finaers? ., �* ~' do something. do you click your finaers? ., �* ~ do something. do you click your fingers?_ you i do something. do you click your. fingers?_ you don't fingers? i don't think so. you don't know yourself. _ fingers? i don't think so. you don't know yourself, that's _ fingers? i don't think so. you don't know yourself, that's the _ fingers? i don't think so. you don't know yourself, that's the problem. j know yourself, that's the problem. lovely to see you all. thank you very much. lovely to see you all. thank you very much-—
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lovely to see you all. thank you very much. i very much. but you are annoying. i don't do that _ very much. but you are annoying. i don't do that particular _ very much. but you are annoying. i don't do that particular thing. - time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london, i'm victoria hollins. the nhs is to start a new polio vaccination campaign in london schools for under 11s, over fears that uptake is still lagging behind the rest of the country. the most recent tests last detected the virus in sewage in early november, but in lesser quantities than in the first part of 2022. health officials believe the spread of poliovirus may have slowed down but, say there's no room for complacency. londoners are being invited to share memories of lost loved ones on the third anniversary of lockdown. a wall covered with hundreds of daffodils has been unveiled by charity marie curie on the south bank to mark its national day of reflection. the charity will also mark a minute's silence at 12 today, to remember those who died during the pandemic and support those grieving in lockdown.
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there are plans for 10,000 electric chanrging points to be installed across surrey over the next seven years. the scheme, by surrey county council, and charge point provider connected kerb is expected to cost £60 million. the council aims to be a carbon net—zero county by 2050 let's take a look at the tubes now. now onto the weather. today will see a fine start to the day with plenty of sunshine. cloudier with showers by the afternoon, these turning to longer spells of rain in the afternoon. we're back in half an hour. there's always more on our website. see you soon. good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today. fighting for his political career, borisjohnson fighting for his political career,
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boris johnson swears fighting for his political career, borisjohnson swears he did not lie to parliament over partygate. good morning. is the cost of borrowing set to rise again? the bank of england is expected to increase interest rates later today after food increase interest rates later today afterfood prices increase interest rates later today after food prices caused increase interest rates later today afterfood prices caused inflation to climb unexpectedly. good morning. late drama in the race to buy manchester united as the two main bidders ask for more time and get the deadline extended, while several new suitors get their bids in on time. cheering. back to school, the head teacher whose life was saved by the defibrillator he bought to protect his pupils. and whilst it is a sunny start to the day for some, there will be some showers and some longer spells of rain in the south later. full forecast to on breakfast. good morning. it's thursday, the 23rd of march. our main story. borisjohnson's political future hangs in the balance after he was questioned by mps investigating whether he misled parliament over lockdown parties
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in downing street. during a three—hour session, the former prime minister repeatedly denied lying to the commons about events in number 10, and insisted that he believed at the time the gatherings were necessary for work purposes. our political correspondent, helen catt reports. i swear by almighty god that the evidence i shall give before this committee shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. it is rare for an mp to have to swear on the bible before giving evidence in parliament. but this was, after all, a hearing about truth — mrjohnson adamant he'd told it. i'm here to say to you, hand on heart, that i did not lie to the house. for around three hours, mps on the privileges committee questioned mrjohnson about why he had told the commons that covid guidance had not been broken in downing street. they showed him photographs like this one, of a leaving do
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in november 2020, which they said suggested he himself had seen guidance being broken. the guidance does not say you can have a thank you party and as many people in the room as you like, if it's very important you thank people. the guidance doesn't say that. i accept that not everybody is perfectly socially distanced in that picture, but that did not mean to me, when i stood up in the house of commons and said that the guidance was followed completely, i was not thinking of that event and thinking that somehow that contravened the guidance. absolutely not. we were making a huge effort to follow the guidance. mrjohnson also said that he would believe until the day he died that it had been his job to thank staff, and gatherings to do so had been essential. would you have advised anyone else in the country, _ if they'd asked you at one of the press conferences i at that time, to have a large social gathering in their garden? - it was not a large social gathering. it was a gathering intended... and i really must insist on this point. people who say that we were partying
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in lockdown simply do not know what they are talking about. people who say that that event was a purely social gathering are quite wrong. those around mrjohnson believe the hearing went well. i thought he gave a very robust defence of himself, actually. i thought he addressed the points very well. i think we also need to remember this is not a reinvestigation of partygate. really the committee is talking about parliamentary procedure, whether that's been followed or not, and whether the accounts that he had given are correct. mrjohnson's critics took a different view. i got the impression by the end that he knows perfectly well. that the rules weren't followed. he's always known that the rules weren't perfectly followed, - and he's always sort i of tried to cover it up. it will be for the committee to decide if it thinks mrjohnson committed a contempt, and if it was inadvertent, reckless or deliberate. their report is not expected until late spring or early summer. helen catt, bbc news, westminster.
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our chief political correspondent nick eardleyjoins us now. good morning. 0k, good morning. ok, that part of the show is done and dusted. now it is all about the verdict?— all about the verdict? morning to ou nara. all about the verdict? morning to you naga- it _ all about the verdict? morning to you naga- it is — all about the verdict? morning to you naga. it is indeed. _ all about the verdict? morning to you naga. it is indeed. i- all about the verdict? morning to you naga. it is indeed. ithink. all about the verdict? morning to you naga. it is indeed. ithink itl you naga. it is indeed. i think it will be a few weeks before we get that from mps on the committee. they want to safety through the evidence. they may look for some more. i think we will get a report from them before the summer holidays. but i also think you can read a bait into what they are thinking already from some of the responses. you heard from the seven mps on the committee yesterday. to take a couple of examples, harriet harman, the chair of the committee, said she felt some of the committee, said she felt some of borisjohnson's evidence had been flimsy. the conservative mp, sir bernard jenkin, a veteran in parliament. he said that he didn't think borisjohnson had taken proper
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advice from his aides. he suggested the committee didn't agree with mr johnson �*s own interpretation of his own guidance. so, in that sense it doesn't bode all that well for the former pm. his argument was twofold. it was basically, look, i was honest with parliament because i told mps what i genuinely thought time. we also hide in helen's piece that he was adamant even some of these events where people were huddled around a table with bottles of alcohol, he thought that was essential for work purposes because it was leaving dos and he thought it was fair enough for him to be there under the guidance. it is up to mps to decide if they agree. it was a very busy session. a very busy afternoon in parliament yesterday. seems like a good time to try to get some other news out. that is exactly what number 10 did with his. rishi sunak's tax return. we had been promised it for weeks. it finally came yesterday, half past four
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yesterday afternoon, as boris johnson was in full flow. a cynic might suggest that with some careful media management to keep it out of the headlines. to tell you briefly what it says, rishi sunak, in the three years from 2019, earned a lot of money. about {4.5 million. he paid about £1 million of money. about £4.5 million. he paid about £1 million in tax. i am told that after rishi sunak published his tax return, we will get keir starmer�*s in the next 2a hours as well. get keir starmer's in the next 24 hours as well.— get keir starmer's in the next 24 hours as well. , , hours as well. timing is everything, nick, as hours as well. timing is everything, nick. as you — hours as well. timing is everything, nick, as you well _ hours as well. timing is everything, nick, as you well know. _ hours as well. timing is everything, nick, as you well know. it _ hours as well. timing is everything, nick, as you well know. it is - hours as well. timing is everything, nick, as you well know. it is time i nick, as you well know. it is time to say goodbye now. thank you very much. planned rail strikes in march and april have been called off. rmt union members, who work at 14 train companies, were set to walk out on thursday and friday of next week. the rail delivery group — which represents train companies — welcomed the move, and said it is now focused on working constructively towards a settlement. some news we have received in the
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last few minutes from west midlands police. a man will appear in court today charged with the attempted murders of two men set on fire after leaving mosques. he will appear at birmingham magistrates' court charged with an attack in edgbaston three days ago, and an incident in ealing, west london last month. he is alleged to have sprayed a substance on the men before setting them alight. that news just coming in the last few minutes. eight minutes past eight. the head of the social media app tiktok is expected to give evidence to the us congress today over security concerns. shou zi chew is likely to face a barrage of questions on tiktok�*s relationship with the chinese state, what data it collects and what it does with it. the app has already been banned on government—owned devices in the us, the uk and many eu states, due to privacy and security concerns. hi, everyone! it's shou here, i'm the ceo of tiktok. tiktok�*s boss usually keeps a low profile. but this week he published this tiktok ahead of a congressional hearing, where he'll be grilled
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by us politicians. he's decided to come out fighting. in that same video he claims that tiktok has 150 million users in the us. in a country where facebook is in decline, tiktok has seen exponential growth. but with that huge influence has come concern. this is the head of the fbi being quizzed earlier this month in congress. could they use tiktok to control data on millions of users? eh, yes. could they use it to control the software on millions of devices, given the opportunity to do so? yes. what's even more concerning for tiktok is it appears to have done the impossible — unite the democrats and the republicans. i think that this is going to be uncharted territory for him, and it will be really, really interesting to see whether he sinks or swims. i think that there is a real risk that if this hearing doesn't go well, that has a massive impact on the future of tiktok.
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whether you think tiktok is a security concern depends on who you ask. but what we do know is tiktok collects a lot of information. by its own admission, the company collects usage information, device information, your ip address. it can even collect biometric identifiers and biometric information, such as face prints and voice prints. some say, so what? instagram collects similar information. others, though, say it's the link to china that's the problem. the concern is that if tiktok in the united states is sharing personal information with its parent company in china, that the chinese government could potentially either access this personal information, or use it to target propaganda to specific users, or in other potentially nefarious ways. but the problem with banning tiktok is we have not actually seen evidence of the chinese government accessing this information through tiktok. tiktok has found itself once again at the heart of a diplomatic battle
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between the us and china. when donald trump tried to ban the app in 2020, tiktok managed to survive. three years later, it's once again fighting for its future. and what happens today in congress may well help decide its fate. james clayton, bbc news. investigators are trying to work out what caused a ship to take over in edinburgh, injuring 35 people, eight of whom remain in hospital. the research vessel petrel became dislodged from its holding in leith and slipped to a 45 degrees angle. the health and safety executive say investigations are ongoing. a scottish parliamentary committee has found serious failings in the way a contract to build two ferries was awarded. among the problems identified by the panel was the decision of the scottish first minister nicola sturgeon to prematurely announce the shipyard, ferguson's, as the preferred bidder. the committee said taxpayers
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and island communities had been "badly let down" by the project. the prince of wales has visited british troops near the ukrainian border. prince william is on an official two—day visit to poland, which continues today when he meets the polish president. his trip to meet the troops in the south—east was kept secret, for security reasons, until he was back in warsaw. ijust wanted to come here in person to say thank you for all that you're doing, keeping everyone safe out here, and keeping an eye on what's going on. so, just a big thank you for what you do on a day to day basis. i know some of you are coming to the end of your time out here, so looking forward to a bit of rnr when you get home. but you're doing a really importantjob out here, and defending ourfreedoms is really important and everyone back home thoroughly supports you. those are the main stories. we are going to look at the weather with batter. cast your eye over the scene outside of our building in salford quays. it looks very calm, doesn't
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it? that quays. it looks very calm, doesn't it? that is what i will say. some ripples there. a bait of a breeze. there is somebody rowing. i suppose the contrast is the brilliant pictures you have offered us all morning. i tried to raise you but we just couldn't. we often can with that view, but not today. i've got a bigger pool to dredge. some wonderful weather watchers pictures this morning. another one from cornwall. this is from porth. some choppy seas in the south—west. some choppy seas in the south—west. some high tides. strong to gale force winds whipping those waves up. please guys here though. you saw the cloud in salford. 5k? please guys here though. you saw the cloud in salford.— cloud in salford. sky is coming and auoin cloud in salford. sky is coming and going today- _ cloud in salford. sky is coming and going today. there _ cloud in salford. sky is coming and going today. there is _ cloud in salford. sky is coming and going today. there is the - cloud in salford. sky is coming and going today. there is the chance i cloud in salford. sky is coming and j going today. there is the chance of some _ going today. there is the chance of some heavy— going today. there is the chance of some heavy showers _ going today. there is the chance of some heavy showers coming - going today. there is the chance of some heavy showers coming your i going today. there is the chance of- some heavy showers coming your way. do not _ some heavy showers coming your way. do not step _ some heavy showers coming your way. do not step out — some heavy showers coming your way. do not step out of— some heavy showers coming your way. do not step out of the _ some heavy showers coming your way. do not step out of the door _ some heavy showers coming your way. do not step out of the door without - do not step out of the door without something — do not step out of the door without something waterproof _ do not step out of the door without something waterproof in _ do not step out of the door without something waterproof in mind. - do not step out of the door without i something waterproof in mind. iniindz;r something waterproof in mind. windy in the south- — something waterproof in mind. windy in the south. england _ something waterproof in mind. windy in the south. england and _ something waterproof in mind. in the south. england and wales the breeze yesterday. scotland and northern ireland not quite as windy. temperatures not far off where they were this time yesterday morning. we
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have seen some heavy thundery showers in the north and west of wales into north—west england. they will be tracking eastwards. showers into the west of northern ireland. more rain in mainland scotland. that will push northwards. it could linger around the orkney all day long. many will spend the bulk of the day dry, if not completely sell. more persistent rain and working towards the south later. still the chance of some heavy and thundery showers this afternoon. windiest for england and wales, winds 40 to 50 mph. rough seas in the south—west. wherever you are, again a day of temperature is above average. 15, maybe 16 degrees in eastern parts of england. we finished the day and for the evening rush hour, may be going to work in the sunshine, coming home from, heavy and persistent rain in east anglia. it could move further north into the midlands. it does clear during the first part of the night. clear spells and showers into the morning. showers more frequent in the northern half of the country
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tomorrow. more sunshine. this weekend it does turn cooler. particularly on sunday. thank you. just a quarter past eight. time now for a tale about a primary school teacher who considers himself the luckiest head teacher alive. yes, with very good reason. nick sheron suffered a heart attack at school seven months ago. his colleagues were able to bring out a life—saving defibrillator in less than a minute. this is because his school in birkdale, merseyside, had previously received a visit from mark king. mark king has spent the last 11 years getting heart defibrillators installed in schools and sports centres in memory of his son, oliver. john maguire can explain more. good morning, everybody. good morning. there's a special assembly at birkdale primary school this morning. but what the children don't know
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is just how special. my ollie was a keen and a talented sportsman, and he had an uncompromising zest for life. they're listening to mark king. he travels the length and breadth of the uk to tell schools about his son oliver, who died of a sudden cardiac arrest when he was just 12 years old. very emotional seeing the kids. when i do assembly with allthe kids, ijust see our ollie's face in there. you know, and it's... mark's been here before, ten years ago. the school was impressed. and since then, he has raised money to buy four defibrillators that, in an emergency, could shock the heart and save a life. the headteacher decided the machines could help to protect his pupils. but on the last day of term, last summer, it was the head himself who collapsed. he survived, but has been off work ever since. until today.
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cheering hello! applause so, you're pleased to see me then? yes! i am so pleased to see you all of you. it's been a longtime. i was very overwhelmed by seeing them for the first time. you start homing in on familiar faces i've not seen for several, several months. start feeling for the children, and, you know, it all kicks in, the reality of it all, how lucky i am to be here, and the reasons for me being here. the oliver king foundation provides notjust the machines, but also training for staff. when mr sheeran suffered his cardiac arrest, colleagues started first aid and were using one
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of the defibrillators in just 32 seconds. i think if you'd have - asked me several years ago, "do you think you'd ever be able to do chest compressions - on someone and use a defib?", i'd have probably gone, - "oh, no, i'm not one of those people that could step up and do that." - but actually, something happens. i don't know what it is, - but something just happens. there was a sense of positiveness about the whole situation. there was no negative. there was no, what's going to happen? it was all very positive. you know, this is what we do, these are the roles we've got. we'll carry this out and the outcome will be positive. and then it's only afterwards that you realise the gravity of the whole situation. emotional seeing him for the first time, because we have supported one another throughout, - and then he come in and he's back to his usual self. of, "yeah, here i am!" and it was nice to see _ the children's reaction, wasn't it? it was. they've missed him. nick is number 68. that's the number of people who've been successfully treated with the foundation's defibrillators. i'm the luckiest headteacher
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on the planet, really, and so grateful to everyone and the part that they played in saving my life and allowing me to be back in school today for the first time in months and months. i'm all raring to go. much more chilled than i used to be. i'm certainly not going to worry as much about things. really, really ecstatic that our defib that was there, that we trained the staff on, was used to save his life. the kids love him, obviously. we've seen them in the hall, all welcoming him back. he's been well missed, because he's a massive personality in this school, and everywhere he goes, probably. just like our ollie. ollie was like a ripple. wherever he went, people just warmed to him. nick has got the same personality. 100%. — ilove him to bits. rock music plays the return of the headteacher also means the return of the staff band abcd,
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and they're saluting this week's star of the week, mark king. his foundation has placed more than 6,000 defibrillators in schools. and following his campaign, the government's pledge to put machines into all schools in england by the summer. it's hoped they won't be needed, but if that need arises, they'll be there, ready for deployment, ready to save precious lives. john maguire, bbc news birkdale, near southport. there is so much to love about that story. we have followed of the campaign closely. you always think, when will be the time it is used in someone's life is saved? there is a perfect example. {lin someone's life is saved? there is a perfect example-— perfect example. on a really trivial note, i perfect example. on a really trivial note. i loved _ perfect example. on a really trivial note, i loved the _ perfect example. on a really trivial note, i loved the band's _ perfect example. on a really trivial note, i loved the band's name. - perfect example. on a really trivial. note, i loved the band's name. abcd.
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kids are loving it. we have had some really lovely feedback to run in that report this morning. nick's wifejo that report this morning. nick's wife jo has just that report this morning. nick's wifejo hasjust said, my that report this morning. nick's wifejo has just said, my lovely husband will never be able to thank you enough, the mark king foundation. just thanking the oliver king foundation. and all the staff who brought him back to life. liverpool heart and chest hospital. the other thing that is lovely about that of course is hearing directly from the other teachers, the other staff, who were in that moment. everyone worries about what he would do, could you cope? they said, absolutely. we got the information, we've got the equipment, you can do it. 21 minutes past eight. at midday today we will get a decision from the bank of england on interest rates. counter to more recent expectations, hannah, good morning,
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it is now predicted that we are going to see a rise in interest rates, when we thought there was some hope we were settling down? yes, 48 hours ago we would have been having _ yes, 48 hours ago we would have been having a _ yes, 48 hours ago we would have been having a very _ yes, 48 hours ago we would have been having a very different conversation. that all changed yesterday. let's look at why. it is a tricky _ yesterday. let's look at why. it is a tricky balancing act for the bank of england at the moment. last month they predicted the rate at which prices _ they predicted the rate at which prices are — they predicted the rate at which prices are rising had peaked. but yesterday— prices are rising had peaked. but yesterday we learned that inflation, unexpectedly, rose to 10.4% in february. — unexpectedly, rose to 10.4% in february. a _ unexpectedly, rose to 10.4% in february, a 40 year high. the spike was driven— february, a 40 year high. the spike was driven by soaring food prices, which _ was driven by soaring food prices, which are — was driven by soaring food prices, which are now rising quicker than at any time _ which are now rising quicker than at any time in — which are now rising quicker than at any time in the last 45 years. it means— any time in the last 45 years. it means the _ any time in the last 45 years. it means the uk has the highest inflation — means the uk has the highest inflation of all the major economies inflation of all the major economies in the _ inflation of all the major economies in the so—called g7, the only one still in _ in the so—called g7, the only one still in double figures. in order to keep— still in double figures. in order to keep a _ still in double figures. in order to keep a lid — still in double figures. in order to keep a lid on those prices, the bank of england _ keep a lid on those prices, the bank of england often chooses to increase the cost _ of england often chooses to increase the cost of _ of england often chooses to increase the cost of borrowing in order to discourage — the cost of borrowing in order to discourage us all from spending. the current— discourage us all from spending. the current base — discourage us all from spending. the current base rate is at 4% and it
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has gone — current base rate is at 4% and it has gone up ten times in a row since decemher— has gone up ten times in a row since december 2021. has gone up ten times in a row since december2021. economists has gone up ten times in a row since december 2021. economists had thought— december 2021. economists had thought the bank would not put up the rate _ thought the bank would not put up the rate at— thought the bank would not put up the rate at this time because of the recent— the rate at this time because of the recent turmoil that higher rates have _ recent turmoil that higher rates have caused in the banking sector, such as _ have caused in the banking sector, such as the — have caused in the banking sector, such as the collapse of silicon valley — such as the collapse of silicon valley bank and its uk arm, as well as the _ valley bank and its uk arm, as well as the takeover of credit suisse. yesterday's figures are likely to cause _ yesterday's figures are likely to cause the — yesterday's figures are likely to cause the monetary policy committee to think— cause the monetary policy committee to think again. that could mean higher— to think again. that could mean higher mortgage rates, rents and more _ higher mortgage rates, rents and more gusts to pay off debts such as loans— more gusts to pay off debts such as loans and _ more gusts to pay off debts such as loans and credit cards. i visited a loans and credit cards. ivisited a factory— loans and credit cards. ivisited a factory in— loans and credit cards. i visited a factory in the west midlands to find out if— factory in the west midlands to find out if staff there are concerns. at this chemical factory in west bromwich, interest rates affect what many staff can afford. so, we've got reactors all down here. we've got one to four. and people like sam are waiting to see how the bank of england reacts as the cost of living continues to rise. it's a bad thing for anybody trying to sort of get on the property ladder. interest rates going up, i suppose it benefits those with all the savings.
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but for most young people sort of starting out in life, it seems to hit us the most. it is very difficult. we have to cut down the way we live. we can't go out as much as we used to. we can't have as many takeaways. we can't go to the attractions, or whatever, that we used to. it's definitely a hit on our sort of quality of life. by putting household budgets under even more pressure. the bank of england believes raising interest rates can bring prices down. but for people like melissa, who's already in debt, it could make paying that off even more expensive. obviously, i have an overdraft where that is what i reach now into every month. i discuss it with my partner regularly, like, how are we going to get out of this rut ofjust cycling around debt? how would you feel if interest rates do go up again? it's just prolonging that cycle. a like... yeah, i... but also at this point, i wouldn't be shocked
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because there is nothing out there giving me hope. so to go up again, it'sjust another slap in the face, really. her colleague, aiden, is more hopeful. it'll definitely come to an end. the question more is when it will come to an end. - i'm quite hopeful that right now it's at its worst. - i i think it'll definitely get better. i it's just a matter of when, really. and with gas and oil costs having driven inflation over the past year, the boss here believes there's really one thing the government should focus on. energy, energy, energy. yes, we protect it. so, we bought ahead our energy from 2019 to 2023, september. it's currently about 1.6, 1.7 million, there or thereabouts. when we come off of that, it goes up to between three and five million, depending on who quotes us. that is a significant increase in our costs. so i think the government really has to look again at supporting smes like ourselves in terms of the energy. today, the focus will be on how to balance
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people's different needs, as the bank of england works out how best to bring down prices without eroding the economy further. so so what is expected today is a 0.2% -- 0~25%_ so what is expected today is a 0.2% -- 0~25% rise _ so what is expected today is a 0.2% —— 0.25% rise. the bank of england has previously said it expects the peak— has previously said it expects the peak to— has previously said it expects the peak to he — has previously said it expects the peak to be about 4.5% later this year~ _ peak to be about 4.5% later this year~ there _ peak to be about 4.5% later this year. there will be many people hoping — year. there will be many people hoping it — year. there will be many people hoping it does not go higher than that _ hoping it does not go higher than that we — hoping it does not go higher than that. we will get the decision at midday— that. we will get the decision at midday today. in the meantime there is more _ midday today. in the meantime there is more about how the changes will affect— is more about how the changes will affect you — is more about how the changes will affect you and how to get help with the rising _ affect you and how to get help with the rising cost of living, on our website — the rising cost of living, on our website. you will find a section called — website. you will find a section called cost of living, tightening it together~ — called cost of living, tightening it together. i think the thing is a lot of people — together. i think the thing is a lot of people don't spend their lives thinking — of people don't spend their lives thinking about what the bank of england — thinking about what the bank of england base rate is, or interest rates _ england base rate is, or interest rates but— england base rate is, or interest rates. but when it hits you, it can
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really _ rates. but when it hits you, it can really hit — rates. but when it hits you, it can really hit you. even when you just consider— really hit you. even when you just consider mortgages, there will be 1.5 consider mortgages, there will be l~5 million— consider mortgages, there will be 1.5 million people this year we negotiating will be affected by the kinds of— negotiating will be affected by the kinds of decisions they make today. because _ kinds of decisions they make today. because they will potentially see massive jumps because they will potentially see massivejumps in because they will potentially see massive jumps in their payments. thank you. breakfast on bbc one until quarter past nine. what happens then, you are asking? morning live takes over, is the question. it's always good to give them information. helen and getting out there. good morning. out there. good morninu. ., ., ., outthere. good morninu. ., ., ., ., good morning. following on from that, the cost _ good morning. following on from that, the cost of— good morning. following on from that, the cost of living _ good morning. following on from that, the cost of living crisis - good morning. following on from that, the cost of living crisis is i that, the cost of living crisis is at the top of our menu too. a fresh wave of soaring bills is set to hit millions of households on the 1st of april. consumer champion matt allwright has last—minute hikes to help you save money. allwright has last-minute hikes to help you save money.— help you save money. yes, i have created a — help you save money. yes, i have created a five-point _ help you save money. yes, i have created a five-point plan - help you save money. yes, i have created a five-point plan to - help you save money. yes, i have| created a five-point plan to tackle created a five—point plan to tackle rising bills. on used subscriptions and requesting a water metre could keep cash in your pocket. plus. keep cash in your pocket. plus,
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with the tallest sunflowers. see you at 9:15am. . «a with the tallest sunflowers. see you at 9:15am. ., i, ., ., at 9:15am. thanks, guys. have a good one. time at 9:15am. thanks, guys. have a good one- time for— at 9:15am. thanks, guys. have a good one. time for the _ at 9:15am. thanks, guys. have a good one. time for the news, _ at 9:15am. thanks, guys. have a good one. time for the news, travel - at 9:15am. thanks, guys. have a good one. time for the news, travel and i one. time for the news, travel and weather where you are. this hello. good morning from bbc london. good this morning from bbc london. i'm victoria hollins. the nhs is to start a new polio vaccination campaign in london schools for under 11s over fears that uptake is still lagging behind the rest of the country. the most recent tests last detected the virus in sewage in early november but in lesser quantities than in the first part of 2022. health officials believe the spread of poliovirus may have slowed down but say there's no room for complacency. what we're trying to do now that we have less polio virus in the sewage is to target those children who remain unvaccinated. we really don't want to have a case of paralysis. even one case would be a real tragedy. because it's completely preventable with vaccination. so the nhs will be reaching out to parents of children aged one
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to 11 in london and asking them to come forward and catch their children up. londoners are being invited to share memories of lost loved ones on the third anniversary of lockdown. a wall covered with hundreds of daffodils has been unveiled by charity marie curie on the south bank to mark its national day of reflection. the charity will also mark a minute's silence at 12 today to remember those who died during the pandemic and support those who grieved in lockdown. this weekend is a highlight in london's sporting calendar — the boat race between oxford and cambridge universities. the volunteer lifeboat crew members from chiswick rnli will be on duty, monitoring the shoreline from start to finish on the four—mile route along the thames and keeping the huge crowds safe on the banks of the river during the race. the tides run extremely fast. the underwater obstacles are extremely dangerous. and people forget that it is a dangerous river, so they don't look after themselves quite as much as they could
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do around the water. let's take a look at the tubes now. still pretty good news if you are planning on using the tube. most lines running a good service. just thejubilee line with minor delays. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's a dry and bright star this morning with some sunshine but it's going to be another unsettled day with some heavy, blustery showers. low pressure to the west of the uk driving the fronts through. it will be a windy day with the wind gusting up to 40 mph, so dry for many to start but the showers quick to arrive, blowing in on the south—westerly wind. still some sunny spells but through the afternoon heavier, more persistent rain from the south but temperatures still reaching 14 celsius. a wet evening but the rain will clear away post midnight, dry with clear skies, so temperatures dropping to five or six celsius. tomorrow morning, it will be another bright start with some sunshine, but another unsettled day on the cards. we will see further showers, fronts coming in from the south—west,
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still breezy for friday and it will stay unsettled into the weekend for saturday and a cold day for sunday and a northerly flow means temperatures dropping especially overnight, sunday into monday, where we are likely to wake up to a frost on monday morning. that's it. have a look at our website for all the latest news or the bbc news app. we're backjust after 9. bye. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. thousands of scottish women who were forced to give up their babies for adoption — because they were unmarried — have received an official government apology. in one of her last acts as first minister, nicola sturgeon said the mothers had been through a living nightmare of shame and grief. our correspondent, duncan kennedy, has followed the women's campaign for recognition and an apology.
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elspeth, lisa, sharon, just some of the 60,000 women in scotland forced to give up their newborn babies for adoption. with them, too, is jano, at peace now, but 40 years ago as a young, unmarried, pregnant woman, it was very different. the worst of it was the experience when i went to hospital. like those thousands of other young women from the 50s, 60s and 70s, jano was shunned by everyone around her, including staff at the nhs hospital she went to give birth in. the circumstances of the delivery were brutal, the way i was treated when i arrived in hospital was brutal. and it was shocking to me to be treated like that in the nhs.
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both during and after delivery, she was given no pain relief, and despite her screams, had stitches without anaesthetic. she was then left abandoned, alone, in a room. i had a very thin covering cover and my memory thinks it was a sheet, but i don't remember if it was a sheet or paper. it was very cold, i was very, very cold and i was left there for four hours. you used a word when you were giving birth to describe your experience. what was that? i used the word torture. it was painful, but it wasn't the pain that was the issue, it was that you know someone is hurting you and they know they are hurting you and they don't care. they are doing what they're doing almost deliberately hurting you. i think that is torture. do you think he did that because you were unmarried? i do. i think the question that's difficult for us to fathom is, how do good people, and most people are good people,
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how do good people get persuaded in theirjobs to do things like that? when was the first time, the first time you saw your baby son? i never saw my baby as a baby. i saw my son when he was a grown man at 31 years old. did you give your baby away? i did not. the horror of what happened to these women is almost impossible to comprehend. jano and others campaigned for years to get an apology for the treatment they received, and the pressure they were put under to hand over their babies. and now, finally, they have been given one. to the mothers who had their babies taken away from them, to the sons and daughters who were separated from their parents, to the fathers who were denied their rights, and to the families who have lived with the legacy, for the decades of pain that you have suffered, i offer today a sincere, heartfelt
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and unreserved apology. we are sorry. applause. the power of one word. we've had the apology, you got there in the end. yes. what does it mean? it means, as we said, i've no longer got to use that phrase that i gave up my baby foradoption, because the responsibility has passed now. the shame has been transferred to the government, the power has been transferred back to us. you went on to have other children and you were reunited with your son. what did this whole experience of forced adoption do to you? i missed first words, first steps, going to school, all those lovely landmarks parents
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have, but what i really grieve not being there to pick up the pieces of that and hold him back up. that is the bit that there is a prolonged grief about and a prolonged loss of that i could not do better. that was duncan kennedy reporting. and thank you so much to all of those people who are honest and open about the they have gone a long time. joining us now is dr michael lambert, who researches the history of the nhs. i thought you nodding as i saw you. to do that. it's one of those fundamentals. we can talk about the statistics, are
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you any patrons of society about marriage and the reason i nodded along was in essence there was a government led sponsored series of policies that cascaded from the top all the way through where you would have an official interacting with other and leaving them with no option to have their child taken away. it option to have their child taken awa . . , option to have their child taken awa , ., , ., option to have their child taken awa . ., , ., , . ., option to have their child taken awa. ., ,~ ., ., away. it was made very clear what she had been _ away. it was made very clear what she had been through _ away. it was made very clear what she had been through when - away. it was made very clear what| she had been through when talking away. it was made very clear what - she had been through when talking to duncan. what is the significance of this apology from the first minister, nicola sturgeon? and there
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is a difference between that apology from the scottish government and the government representing —— representing england and wales. it’s representing england and wales. it's a question of degree. the first minister's _ a question of degree. the first minister's statement was an apology, very heartfelt and profound and that came _ very heartfelt and profound and that came across in her speaking. what is important _ came across in her speaking. what is important she has realised there is an injustice — important she has realised there is an injustice for everyone involved, it's the _ an injustice for everyone involved, it's the birth — an injustice for everyone involved, it's the birth mothers, the adopted adults. _ it's the birth mothers, the adopted adults. the — it's the birth mothers, the adopted adults, the families and communities torn apart— adults, the families and communities torn apart as a result of that and she has— torn apart as a result of that and she has been very conscious of how she has been very conscious of how she has— she has been very conscious of how she has sculpted her statement. in a way that— she has sculpted her statement. in a way that draws on an apology almost nine years _ way that draws on an apology almost nine years ago to the day in australia _ nine years ago to the day in australia whenjulia nine years ago to the day in australia when julia gillard apologised in 2013 for australia in similar— apologised in 2013 for australia in similar circumstances and set of relations, — similar circumstances and set of relations, and the way this is not 'ust relations, and the way this is not just a _ relations, and the way this is not just a national issue in scotland and england but also an international one, the large changes across— international one, the large changes across time. what is significant is
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that nicola — across time. what is significant is that nicola sturgeon has set the benchmark and stood up and recognised and accepted what she said that — recognised and accepted what she said that she was morally responsible in her role as first minister— responsible in her role as first minister in _ responsible in her role as first minister in taking the government forward _ minister in taking the government forward. but minister in taking the government forward. �* �* , ., forward. but the british government has apologised _ forward. but the british government has apologised for _ forward. but the british government has apologised for society's - has apologised for society's behaviour at that time. the british government _ behaviour at that time. the british government response _ behaviour at that time. the british government response to _ behaviour at that time. the british government response to the - behaviour at that time. the british government response to the jointl government response to the joint committee on human rights inquiry into the _ committee on human rights inquiry into the forced adoption, it says sorry— into the forced adoption, it says sorry 15— into the forced adoption, it says sorry 15 or— into the forced adoption, it says sorry 15 or 16 times, the word sorry but at _ sorry 15 or 16 times, the word sorry but at no _ sorry 15 or 16 times, the word sorry but at no point in the report do they— but at no point in the report do they apologise for their involvement.— they apologise for their involvement. ., ., , involvement. what does history tell us, and involvement. what does history tell us. and that — involvement. what does history tell us. and that is _ involvement. what does history tell us, and that is your _ involvement. what does history tell us, and that is your area, _ involvement. what does history tell us, and that is your area, an - us, and that is your area, an official apology, and you can see what difference it makes to an individual. what about the future? what is the significance in terms of policy in terms of making sure anything like that can't happen again stop i think that's a political decision about learning from the past.— political decision about learning fromtheast. ., from the past. taking on board the lived experience _ from the past. taking on board the lived experience of— from the past. taking on board the lived experience of everyone - lived experience of everyone involved _ lived experience of everyone involved about the harm, the injustice _ involved about the harm, the injustice and the difficulties endured and feeding those forward
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into policies and breaking away from the strictures and constraints that really _ the strictures and constraints that really are — the strictures and constraints that really are taken for granted. | really are taken for granted. suppose really are taken for granted. i suppose in a way, if people don't hear a profound sorry, the assumption is that, actually, kind of things were acceptable. i agree entirel . of things were acceptable. i agree entirely- ls— of things were acceptable. i agree entirely- is it _ of things were acceptable. i agree entirely. is it that _ entirely. is it that straightforward? | entirely. is it that. straightforward? it entirely. is it that - straightforward? it is that straightforward. - straightforward? it is that straightforward. the - straightforward? it is that l straightforward. the weight straightforward? it is that - straightforward. the weight of opinion— straightforward. the weight of opinion and direction of travel means— opinion and direction of travel means the government unwillingness to issue _ means the government unwillingness to issue an— means the government unwillingness to issue an apology, it's a matter of inevitability that they will have to give _ of inevitability that they will have to give one at some stage because the weight of historical evidence and lived — the weight of historical evidence and lived experience and the opinion of those _ and lived experience and the opinion of those involved signifies the deep involvement in government to recognise this moment in time and also wait _ recognise this moment in time and also wait for the results.— also wait for the results. doctor michael lambert, _ also wait for the results. doctor michael lambert, interesting i also wait for the results. doctor michael lambert, interesting to also wait for the results. doctor i michael lambert, interesting to talk to you and thank you for your time with us on the sofa.— to you and thank you for your time with us on the sofa. thank you very much. with us on the sofa. thank you very much- the — with us on the sofa. thank you very much. the anxious _ with us on the sofa. thank you very much. the anxious wait _ with us on the sofa. thank you very much. the anxious wait for i much. the anxious wait for manchester _ much. the anxious wait for
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manchester united i much. the anxious wait for manchester united fans i much. the anxious wait for l manchester united fans goes much. the anxious wait for i manchester united fans goes on rather unexpectedly because the race to buy the club is wide open again and it's no longer about the two main parties. it had looked for so long that the new investment would come from the qatari banker sheikh jassi orjim radcliffe with world record reported gains of around £5 billion, but before the deadline only to interested parties had gone public and it is understood they had submitted revised and upped their but it later emerged that their bids had not been received in the place neededin had not been received in the place needed in needed in america in new york so the deadline has now been extended for them. then we learned that the initial deadline had been met by several other potential investors. the takeover timeframe and is now unclear but you have to say the signs for the current owners are still encouraging. thea;r say the signs for the current owners are still encouraging.— are still encouraging. they will want this result. _ are still encouraging. they will want this result. they i are still encouraging. they will want this result. they don't i are still encouraging. they will. want this result. they don't want are still encouraging. they will- want this result. they don't want to dra- want this result. they don't want to drag this— want this result. they don't want to drag this on — want this result. they don't want to drag this on. they have two very interested — drag this on. they have two very interested parties and i think these parties _ interested parties and i think these parties will come close to the valuation— parties will come close to the valuation that the glazer family
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once _ valuation that the glazer family once and — valuation that the glazer family once and i think we will have a deal shortly _ once and i think we will have a deal shortl . . shortly. the last time the england men's team _ shortly. the last time the england men's team won _ shortly. the last time the england men's team won in _ shortly. the last time the england men's team won in italy _ shortly. the last time the england men's team won in italy the i shortly. the last time the england l men's team won in italy the beatles were getting famous and harold macmillan was prime minister. it was the early 1960s and it's tonight when england start theirjourney towards euro 2024 on the road begins in naples. just over a hundred days since england's world cup ended, in a tournament, and the italians failed to qualify for that, and they are the reigning european champions having beaten england in the final 2021. i'm excited about playing in a city that loves football, with a great history. we always ask our fans to be good tourists and respect local culture. and we hope that the game in the next couple of days passes with no problems. northern ireland's second spell under the management of michael o'neill should begin with a win. they are big favourites to open a
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campaign with a win against san marino who have never won a competitive match in their history. o'neill was reappointed as manager in december. scotland and wales have their first matches in qualifying on saturday. and the 'will it�* / 'won't it�* debate about whether tyson fury�*s highly anticipated fight with oleksandr usyk continues with promoter frank warren now saying the heavyweight clash is off — and he "does not think" it will happen in the nearfuture. talks over a bout at wembley stadium on 29 april have broken down, despite usyk agreeing a 70/30 purse split in fury�*s favour. the issue seems to be over the split for a second fight, a sequel or rematch later in the year. fury currently holds the wbc heavyweight belt while ukraine's usyk, who beat britain's anthonyjoshua for a second time last year, has the others in the division. but warren said the fight is now a "dead duck" however, this is boxing, and with boxing, they like a bit of a sideshow. the off, out of the ring
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drama is almost as big as the drama in it, so you would not be surprised if the dead duck was revived. they have until the 1st of april two finally agree to the fight, so the doc may have some life in it yet stop anything else you want to say about that duck? no, because i'm quite interested in the neck story. yes, you would be. the story is about footballers and when they travel on planes, even though it's short distances. have you witnessed this, teams getting on planes to just go a few hundred miles? yes. this, teams getting on planes to just go a few hundred miles? yes, it seems pretty — just go a few hundred miles? yes, it seems pretty common _ just go a few hundred miles? yes, it seems pretty common and - just go a few hundred miles? yes, it seems pretty common and it i just go a few hundred miles? yes, it seems pretty common and it has i just go a few hundred miles? yes, it i seems pretty common and it has been for a long time, and seems pretty common and it has been fora long time, and in seems pretty common and it has been for a long time, and in the past. managers have talked about the comfort, maybe not cramped on a coach or worrying about trains being delayed or cancelled. the coach or worrying about trains being delayed or cancelled.— delayed or cancelled. the detail is art of a delayed or cancelled. the detail is part of a bbc— delayed or cancelled. the detail is part of a bbc investigation. it i part of a bbc investigation. it looked at how many times these kind of flights are quite short distances are taking place for premier league
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commitments to being environmentally sustainable. everton arriving by coach for their match against chelsea at the weekend, but this was just the final step of their journey to stamford bridge having flown to london for the fixture 24 hours earlier, they are far from alone. the bbc has uncovered evidence that in just two months there were 81 domestic flights by premier league clubs across just 100 matches including club competitions, and the shortest flight was just 27 minutes. one top manager admits it's an issue the game must now tackle. i think it's something we have to do better with. it's my personal opinion. that's not to say it straight forward because there are different factors, but it's an area we can improve. but it's notjust the planes that take teams to fixtures. a positioning flight, as it's known, arriving at liverpool airport last week to pick up everton forjust a 35 minute journey south for that game against chelsea. one of 37 such flights, often largely empty, that we found evidence
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of in the two month window. premier league teams taking short domestic flights like this one to and from matches despite it being worse for the environment than travelling by road or rail has raised serious questions overjust how committed the top of the sport truly is to sustainability. last weekend, a positioning flight came all the way from inverness to take bournemouth to birmingham for a match against aston villa, the plane going on empty to liverpool. the next day, another positioning flight from aberdeen picked the team up and took them home before returning back to scotland. league1 forest green rovers are known as the country's most sustainable club, and its owner told me he was dismayed by our findings. i think it's shocking data injust two months. it's an illusion to think there is a gain for a flight of that duration. and modern coaches are very comfortable, and aren't going to impair the performance of a player over that relatively short distance. the carbon impact is one
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thing and it might not be the biggest thing, but the optics, you've got premier league teams setting a very bad example for the rest of the country. the fa says it is the responsibility of each club to make their own travel choices and some in the game point out that these flights make up a small proportion of domestic air travel. in a statement, the premier league said it recognises the need to take action on climate change and is committed to reducing so what did these fans at stamford bridge feel about the issue? flights arejust easier than the train. sometimes trains get cancelled more than planes and people get piled on. climate change is a big topic for people and they should be trying to set an example like sorts of other organisations in the world. a generation ago it was all very different. what's the theory then behind hiring a plane to fly bournemouth to an away match? it's a bit extravagant. yes, it's only a one off, tony. these days with more money and more matches in football than ever, persuading top clubs to remain grounded could be a challenge. dan roan, bbc news.
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we've been talking this morning about noises that really set your teeth on edge. for example you might hate snoring. we will be talking about this over the next five or six minutes so you might wish to mute your tv because you might be one of the people we are talking about. then you might have a condition called misophonia, which afflicts around one in five of us according to a new study. we arejust we are just saying if there are certain noises like snoring, which might cause you problems. we are going to talk to one of the researchers behind the study, but first let's learn about some of the other noises that can really great. the chalkboard when it screeches, it gives _ the chalkboard when it screeches, it gives tingles down you. it�*s the chalkboard when it screeches, it gives tingles down you.— gives tingles down you. it's like nails on a _ gives tingles down you. it's like nails on a it's _ gives tingles down you. it's like
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nails on a it's horrible. i gives tingles down you. it's like nails on a it's horrible. -- i gives tingles down you. it's like nails on a it's horrible. -- nails| nails on a it's horrible. -- nails on a chalkboard. _ nails on a it's horrible. -- nails on a chalkboard. i'm _ nails on a it's horrible. -- nails on a chalkboard. i'm not i nails on a it's horrible. -- nails on a chalkboard. i'm not going| nails on a it's horrible. -- nails i on a chalkboard. i'm not going to sa who on a chalkboard. i'm not going to say who snores. _ on a chalkboard. i'm not going to say who snores. a _ on a chalkboard. i'm not going to say who snores. a fork _ on a chalkboard. i'm not going to say who snores. a fork on i on a chalkboard. i'm not going to say who snores. a fork on a i on a chalkboard. i'm not going to | say who snores. a fork on a plate. oh, es, say who snores. a fork on a plate. oh. yes. metal— say who snores. a fork on a plate. oh, yes, metal grinding _ say who snores. a fork on a plate. oh, yes, metal grinding together. i say who snores. a fork on a plate. i oh, yes, metal grinding together. a oh, yes, metal grinding together. fork or knife on a plate. that annoys me. fork or knife on a plate. that annoys me— fork or knife on a plate. that annoys me.- chewing i fork or knife on a plate. that i annoys me.- chewing sounds. fork or knife on a plate. that annoys me. yeah. chewing sounds. you know, annoys me. yeah. chewing sounds. you know. that's — annoys me. yeah. chewing sounds. you know. that's just _ annoys me. yeah. chewing sounds. you know, that'sjust like, _ annoys me. yeah. chewing sounds. you know, that'sjust like, really _ know, that'sjust like, really annoying _ know, that's 'ust like, really annoying.— know, that's 'ust like, really anno in. ., ., annoying. people eating. loud eaters, annoying. people eating. loud eaters. it— annoying. people eating. loud eaters, it really _ annoying. people eating. loud eaters, it really winds i annoying. people eating. loud eaters, it really winds me i annoying. people eating. loud eaters, it really winds me up i annoying. people eating. loud i eaters, it really winds me up and gets on my nerves. my brother does it all the time. it does irritate me. drjane gregory is a clincial psychologist from the university of oxford — which did this research jointly with king's college london — and who also experiences misophonia herself. let's clarify this because you are
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an expert in the field, and a moment ago you were pretty much holding your ears and closing your eyes when noises were happening because this is a very real thing and the reason you do what you do now is because when you were younger, you had a real problem. when you were younger, you had a real problem-— when you were younger, you had a real roblem. ~ , , . .,, real problem. absolutely. when i was a kid, it used — real problem. absolutely. when i was a kid, it used to _ real problem. absolutely. when i was a kid, it used to drive _ real problem. absolutely. when i was a kid, it used to drive me _ real problem. absolutely. when i was a kid, it used to drive me nuts. ii a kid, it used to drive me nuts. i get really angry and upset my parents had no idea why i was so bothered. ~ . . . parents had no idea why i was so bothered. ~ ., . ., bothered. what was the particular thin that bothered. what was the particular thing that was _ bothered. what was the particular thing that was the _ bothered. what was the particular thing that was the problem? if i bothered. what was the particularj thing that was the problem? if it's ok talking about it. i don't want to take you back to trauma. what was it? take you back to trauma. what was it? , ., , ., ., , it? the big ones for me growing up were the sounds _ it? the big ones for me growing up were the sounds of— it? the big ones for me growing up were the sounds of loud _ it? the big ones for me growing up were the sounds of loud eating i it? the big ones for me growing upj were the sounds of loud eating and pigeons outside my window when i was trying to relax or sleep or read, it used to drive me mad because i couldn't relax or concentrate and it was like my brainjust... so couldn't relax or concentrate and it was like my brainjust... 50 it couldn't relax or concentrate and it was like my brainjust...— was like my brain 'ust... so it is the h was like my brain 'ust... so it is the of_ was like my brainjust... so it is the noise of those _ was like my brainjust... so it is the noise of those things. i was like my brainjust... so it is. the noise of those things. because thatis the noise of those things. because that is kind of what we are talking about, specifically, the noise. there are specific sounds that cause most people to be annoyed, most people are annoyed by the sound of loud eating. it's normal not to like
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that sound and that came out in the study that 85% of the general population say they don't like the sound. �* ,., population say they don't like the sound. �* , , population say they don't like the sound. ~ , , ~ population say they don't like the sound. ~ , ~ �*, sound. also because we think it's rude. sound. also because we think it's rude- exactly. — sound. also because we think it's rude. exactly, that's _ sound. also because we think it's rude. exactly, that's the i sound. also because we think it's rude. exactly, that's the other i rude. exactly, that's the other art, rude. exactly, that's the other part. it's _ rude. exactly, that's the other part. it's also _ rude. exactly, that's the other part, it's also the _ rude. exactly, that's the other part, it's also the meaning i rude. exactly, that's the other i part, it's also the meaning behind the sound, so there was one study where they put videos of a cute puppy 0" where they put videos of a cute puppy or something that played the same noise as a video with a person eating, and the reaction was less intense with people watching the puppy intense with people watching the puppy eating, even though the noise was exactly the same. we know it is notjust was exactly the same. we know it is not just the sound, was exactly the same. we know it is notjust the sound, it's also what it means. i notjust the sound, it's also what it means. ., �* ., ., ., ., , it means. i don't want to traumatise ou, but it means. i don't want to traumatise you. but when _ it means. i don't want to traumatise you, but when did _ it means. i don't want to traumatise you, but when did your— it means. i don't want to traumatise you, but when did your parents i you, but when did your parents realise you had mrfolia? i think your poor brother got the front of your poor brother got the front of your ir. —— misophonia. back your poor brother got the front of your ir. -- misophonia. back then nobody knew— your ir. -- misophonia. back then nobody knew what _ your ir. -- misophonia. back then nobody knew what it _ your ir. -- misophonia. back then nobody knew what it was - your ir. -- misophonia. back then nobody knew what it was on i your ir. -- misophonia. back then nobody knew what it was on the i your ir. -- misophonia. back then i nobody knew what it was on the term misophonia came out at around 2001, so i'm a child of the 80s and 90s so
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what it was and my poor twin brother, we were on this big family holiday to disneyland and almost as exciting as disneyland was the doughnut display in the american motel buffet breakfast and he was excited as you would become free doughnuts, and i couldn't stand it because i could hear him eating and it was slow loud and i couldn't enjoy what i was doing because his sound was driving me mad and i ended up sound was driving me mad and i ended up slapping the food out of his hand. some people do it a lot worse than that. mine is relatively mild, but in my family, that is a big deal. we are a pretty peaceful family, so i might as well have slapped across the face at that point. to slapped across the face at that oint. ., ., ,~' . .., , ., point. to ask the clinical question, a lot of people _ point. to ask the clinical question, a lot of people have _ point. to ask the clinical question, a lot of people have got _ point. to ask the clinical question, a lot of people have got in i point. to ask the clinical question, a lot of people have got in touch i a lot of people have got in touch with us and we will talk about the things and some are borderline comic, but what is the crossover point into a condition? something that has a serious psychological impact? what is the place between
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going that is annoying and it winds me up and it being something beyond that? a, �* , me up and it being something beyond that? i, �* , a, a, , i, that? that's a great question. the oint that? that's a great question. the point where _ that? that's a great question. the point where it _ that? that's a great question. the point where it becomes _ that? that's a great question. the point where it becomes a - that? that's a great question. the | point where it becomes a disorder, there is new research, a group of experts suggesting it should be considered a disorder because of the suffering people go through. we think one in five have a disorder and we think they have an extreme reaction, and the cut—off for that was it was a significant problem for me and it's classified as a disorder and has to cause significant distress and on a day to day basis and have an impact. so something like the noise _ and have an impact. so something like the noise of— and have an impact. so something like the noise of people _ and have an impact. so something like the noise of people eating, i like the noise of people eating, what would be the markers? people might be curious, what would be the markers when genuinely it has gone to a different place?— to a different place? some people end relationships _ to a different place? some people end relationships over— to a different place? some people end relationships over it. - to a different place? some people end relationships over it. i've - end relationships over it. i've spoken to people whose kids cannot go to school any more because of the
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sounds the classroom. people who have to eat separately from their family, that sort of thing, or who have moved house several times because of the noise of neighbours above. ., ., i” because of the noise of neighbours above. ., ., , ., ., because of the noise of neighbours above. ., ., ,, ., , .,, because of the noise of neighbours above. ., ., ., , ., above. how do you treat people for that? can you _ above. how do you treat people for that? can you get _ above. how do you treat people for that? can you get someone - above. how do you treat people for that? can you get someone who i above. how do you treat people for that? can you get someone who is | that? can you get someone who is really alarmed and worried in the way they are about being with someone when they are eating. can you make it ok? we someone when they are eating. can you make it ok?— you make it ok? we can make it tolerable- _ you make it ok? we can make it tolerable. that's _ you make it ok? we can make it tolerable. that's one _ you make it ok? we can make it tolerable. that's one of- you make it ok? we can make it tolerable. that's one of my - you make it ok? we can make it. tolerable. that's one of my things in the interest in the research is working out what are the aspects of this that can be treated and can be changed. this that can be treated and can be chanced. ~ ., ., ., , changed. would it have to be emotional. — changed. would it have to be emotional, psychological- changed. would it have to be - emotional, psychological therapy or physical? for example, laura from swindon says she has had misophonia since childhood and her trigger sounds are loud breathing and tapping, which make herfeel angry and physically sick, so she now uses noise reducing earplugs to manage her condition. there is honestly a physical response, but can you be
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trained or coached to kind of tolerate it more? it’s trained or coached to kind of tolerate it more?— trained or coached to kind of tolerate it more? �* , ., , ., ., tolerate it more? it's a compilation of thins. tolerate it more? it's a compilation of thinqs- we _ tolerate it more? it's a compilation of things. we don't _ tolerate it more? it's a compilation of things. we don't think _ tolerate it more? it's a compilation of things. we don't think there - tolerate it more? it's a compilation of things. we don't think there is i tolerate it more? it's a compilation of things. we don't think there is a | of things. we don't think there is a cure for it —— combination of things. but we want to bring the intensity of reaction, the anger and panic reaction down to this is annoying, i don't like it and i wouldn't stay in the room if i didn't have to do, but i can deal with it and the way we do that from a therapy perspective his work with people to try and change the association of the brain with a sound, so to teach the body and brain that this person is not trying to harm you. brain that this person is not trying to harm you-— to harm you. that is the thing. i don't know— to harm you. that is the thing. i don't know if— to harm you. that is the thing. i don't know if i _ to harm you. that is the thing. i don't know if i have _ to harm you. that is the thing. i don't know if i have it _ to harm you. that is the thing. i don't know if i have it or - to harm you. that is the thing. i don't know if i have it or not, i to harm you. that is the thing. i l don't know if i have it or not, and i don't think so but i do get very angry with certain noises and get a headache. i don't know if that's just my personality. loud breathing. chewing. excessive sniffing, people sucking breath through their teeth. it's quite a long list. breathing is
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quite a basic one. it’s it's quite a long list. breathing is quite a basic one.— it's quite a long list. breathing is quite a basic one. it's hard to tell someone you _ quite a basic one. it's hard to tell someone you are _ quite a basic one. it's hard to tell someone you are keeping - quite a basic one. it's hard to tell| someone you are keeping yourself alive, but it's killing me. just sto it, alive, but it's killing me. just stop it. that _ alive, but it's killing me. just stop it, that breathing thing. alive, but it's killing me. just| stop it, that breathing thing. i alive, but it's killing me. just - stop it, that breathing thing. i had the really loud _ stop it, that breathing thing. i had the really loud breath _ stop it, that breathing thing. i had the really loud breath for - stop it, that breathing thing. i w. the really loud breath for a long time and it was really hard work. aha, time and it was really hard work. a lack of sympathy. it _ time and it was really hard work. a lack of sympathy. it feels - time and it was really hard work. a lack of sympathy. it feels like - time and it was really hard work. a lack of sympathy. it feels like they| lack of sympathy. it feels like they are doinu lack of sympathy. it feels like they are doing it _ lack of sympathy. it feels like they are doing it deliberately _ lack of sympathy. it feels like they are doing it deliberately even - lack of sympathy. it feels like they| are doing it deliberately even when you know it is not. we are doing it deliberately even when you know it is not.— you know it is not. we had an anonymous — you know it is not. we had an anonymous one _ you know it is not. we had an anonymous one where - you know it is not. we had an anonymous one where a - you know it is not. we had an i anonymous one where a viewer you know it is not. we had an - anonymous one where a viewer said the whole family has misophonia, so when they eat together they put the radio i when they eat together they put the radioi really loud so when they eat together they put the radio i really loud so they don't hear each other�*s eating noises and then kirsty from haslemere cannot bear listening to other people eating and her children and husband have to eat their cereal in another room, and she says the worst noise is people eating chocolate. she showed us thinking about it. i think thatis showed us thinking about it. i think that is the whole sucking thing. probably the sucking thing and there are foods that seem like they should be quiet, so when they sound loud, it can cause a more intense
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reaction. like what? chocolate is a great example. bind reaction. like what? chocolate is a great example-— reaction. like what? chocolate is a great example-_ . i reaction. like what? chocolate is a i great example._ , when great example. and bananas. , when --eole eat great example. and bananas. , when people eat them. _ great example. and bananas. , when people eat them, it _ great example. and bananas. , when people eat them, it is _ great example. and bananas. , when people eat them, it is mushy - great example. and bananas. , when people eat them, it is mushy and - great example. and bananas. , when| people eat them, it is mushy and you can hear the saliva so if you hear something you're not supposed to be able to hear. if i something you're not supposed to be able to hear-— able to hear. ifi go like this. i crabbed able to hear. ifi go like this. i grabbed my — able to hear. ifi go like this. i grabbed my cup. _ able to hear. ifi go like this. i grabbed my cup, and - able to hear. ifi go like this. i grabbed my cup, and i'm - able to hear. ifi go like this. i| grabbed my cup, and i'm really looking forward to this. and i take a big old... i won't do it in case it really bothers people, but you take a big old slurp and then afterwards and there is that noise people make. the afterwards and there is that noise people make-— afterwards and there is that noise people make. the site afterwards. and the anticipation, _ people make. the site afterwards. and the anticipation, as _ people make. the site afterwards. and the anticipation, as i - people make. the site afterwards. and the anticipation, as i was - and the anticipation, as i was watching you, i could see that you wanted to. ., �* , watching you, i could see that you wanted to— watching you, i could see that you wanted to-_ watching you, i could see that you wanted to. ., �* , ., �* wanted to. that's a trigger thing. a lot of people _ wanted to. that's a trigger thing. a lot of people are _ wanted to. that's a trigger thing. a lot of people are really _ wanted to. that's a trigger thing. a lot of people are really annoyed - lot of people are really annoyed about that slapping.— lot of people are really annoyed about that slapping. yes, absolutely and that was — about that slapping. yes, absolutely and that was one _ about that slapping. yes, absolutely and that was one of _ about that slapping. yes, absolutely and that was one of the _ about that slapping. yes, absolutely and that was one of the top - about that slapping. yes, absolutely and that was one of the top triggers| and that was one of the top triggers in the study. mr; and that was one of the top triggers in the study-— in the study. my favourite one, to end on a lighter— in the study. my favourite one, to end on a lighter note _ in the study. my favourite one, to end on a lighter note and - in the study. my favourite one, to end on a lighter note and i'm - in the study. my favourite one, to end on a lighter note and i'm not| end on a lighter note and i'm not dismissing the sound because it something and it's great to raise awareness of it. it’s something and it's great to raise awareness of it._ something and it's great to raise awareness of it. it's also a way of deahnu awareness of it. it's also a way of dealing with _ awareness of it. it's also a way of dealing with it. _ awareness of it. it's also a way of dealing with it. that _ awareness of it. it's also a way of dealing with it. that is _ awareness of it. it's also a way of dealing with it. that is part - awareness of it. it's also a way of dealing with it. that is part of - awareness of it. it's also a way of| dealing with it. that is part of how i deal with
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dealing with it. that is part of how ideal with it, so humour, it might come across i'm not taking it seriously, but that is howl come across i'm not taking it seriously, but that is how i go. brilliant one from an anonymous viewer, possibly trying to spare their pet's blushes because they say their pet's blushes because they say the dog licking himself. it unbearable. thank you very much. good luck. you are watching breakfast.
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