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premier league teams taking short domestic flights like this one to and from matches despite it being worse for the environment than travelling by road or rail has raised serious questions overjust how committed the top of the sport truly is to sustainability. last weekend, a positioning flight came all the way from inverness to take bournemouth to birmingham for a match against aston villa, the plane going on empty to liverpool. the next day, another positioning flight from aberdeen picked the team up and took them home before returning back to scotland. leaguei forest green rovers are known as the country's most sustainable club, and its owner told me he was dismayed by our findings. i think it's shocking data injust two months. it's an illusion to think there is a gain for a flight of that duration. and modern coaches are very comfortable, and aren't going to impair the performance of a player over that relatively short distance.
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the carbon impact is one thing and it might not be the biggest thing, but the optics, you've got premier league teams setting a very bad example for the rest of the country. the fa says it is the responsibility of each club to make their own travel choices and some in the game point out that these flights make up a small proportion of domestic air travel. in a statement, the premier league said it recognises the need to take action on climate change and is committed to reducing so what did these fans at stamford bridge feel about the issue? flights arejust easier than the train. sometimes trains get cancelled more than planes and people get piled on. climate change is a big topic for people and they should be trying to set an example like sorts of other organisations in the world. a generation ago it was all very different. what's the theory then behind hiring a plane to fly bournemouth to an away match? it's a bit extravagant. yes, it's only a one off, tony. these days with more money and more matches in football than ever, persuading top clubs to remain grounded could be a challenge. dan roan, bbc news.
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no amount of money can undo the trauma of being caught up in a terror attack, or bring back a loved one — but it can cover bills for victims who can no longer work, and pay for therapy or even funerals. but the bbc has been told the uk government's compensation scheme is "broken". the campaign group survivors against terror says the process is stressful, demeaning, and that it magnifies the initial pain of the attack. jayne mccubbin has been speaking to three terrorism survivors about their experiences. i lost the person i was. myjob. my working life. my career. yeah. at the mem arena in manchester, a bomb'sjust gone off in the foyer. 0k. the greatest loss was the love of my life, my elaine. i've seen this kid curled up in a ball in the shower. can't get the screams out of her head.
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she describes the blood on her feet and she can still feel it. when zoe and paul experienced the very worst, they thought their government would be there. instead, they say they felt abandoned. we've received nothing, absolutely nothing. i thought, this is... this is it. my life... my life is over. these were the last photographs taken by zoe of her daughter millie in tunisia 2015, just before their life changed forever. we were playing darts by the pool. it was like a pop, pop, pop noise coming from the beach. and i knew even then, i knew what it was. a lone gunman killed 38 people that day. as holidaymakers fled, the family was separated. millie was chased along a hotel corridor, where the gunman threw a grenade. for a time, that cost her her hearing. just... it'sjust horrific. it's completely changed her life.
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when she returned home, prime minister david cameron sent this letter and a promise. "i am determined the government does everything it can to support "you, to make sure the government provides the best possible support." instead, they say they have had to fight for compensation and therapy. how are you? good. how are you? today, millie is trying to rebuild her life in america, still unable to talk about what happened in sousse. millie started with panic attacks about a month after the attack, and they've never stopped. she's never had any real treatment, therapy. it's like nobody cares. what we all went - through was horrific. and the fact that we . aren't being helped is, in my opinion, offensive. our hearts all go out to the victims of these appalling terrorist acts. our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and with their friends,
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families and loved ones. sympathy is never in short supply when there is yet another terror attack. but campaign group survivors against terror say victims are consistently let down by the cica, the criminal injuries compensation authority. paul's partner, elaine, was killed in the manchester arena bomb attack. he spent eight months in hospital recovering from his own extensive injuries. while still in hospital, people told me there was, you know... ..the whole nation were behind the people who'd lost or injured. you won't have anything to worry about. you just concentrate on getting getting better and getting over this. and it never happened. i came out in february to nothing. the first letter, on top. paul shows me almost four years�* worth of correspondence fighting for compensation. june �*22.
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"we are ready to assess your application for compensation. "you told us you sustained injuries." that's. .. that's just worded totally wrong. well, the cica is set up for injuries, you know, fights outside pubs, you know, crash—for—cash claims, they sort of view you as... you're on the make. yes. yes, very much so. and that's how they make me feel. survivors against terror say this system isn't what the public would expect and is not what survivors deserve. it's a nightmare. most of the organisations i've come across, i've just stumbled across or i've found myself. late last year, paul appeared on the bbc breakfast sofa. and suddenly... yeah. ..everything changed. yeah. the same day, my solicitor received a phone call. it shouldn't take sitting on the red sofa to make the cica take action.
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the ministry ofjustice told us, "the criminal injuries compensation "scheme is one of the most generous in the world. "but we know more must be done to support victims of terrorism, "which is why the government is reviewing the support available." everything went so quick, but i've been stabbed in my stomach, in my lung at the back and on my face as well. when marine, a french national, was stabbed in the london bridge terror attack in 2017, her government was proactive in offering fast financial, practical and psychological support. we receive a lump sum for in advance of the compensation, which will come after. i had a psychologist coming to my home actually every week. it was all organised. it's kind of simple, when you think about it, but it's what it should be.
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she was one of a group of campaigners who, this week, went to westminster to demand change — a survivors�* charter, one which alleviates the pain of an attack, instead of magnifying it. jayne mccubbin, bbc news. access to nature should be a human right, that's what 100 uk citizens behind a so—called people's plan for reversing the decline in british nature say. in a new report they demand urgent action to ensure everyone has access to green spaces and that rivers and wetlands are restored to full health. they also call for a permanent "people's assembly" that puts the public at the heart of decisions over how to use the land. helen briggs has this report. come down here and just sort of escape it all... rebecca has been visiting the fields near her oxfordshire home since she was a child. growing up with nature on my doorstep, we've always enjoyed being in and around it and it does
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need to be protected. it's really scary to think what the children of today are going to grow up in. so, when she was randomly selected to be part of the people's plan for nature, shejumped at the chance. the plan goes across lots of different things. it's everyone�*s responsibility to get involved and and take part, make those little changes. at this hotel in birmingham, 100 people from across the uk have been meeting over the past year to share ideas and devise their own plan for bringing wildlife back from the brink. and they're calling for a complete overhaul in the way we treat nature, from the food we eat and how we use the land, to tougher action on preventing pollution. here at the university of reading, scientists have been monitoring declines in plants and animals on home soilfor decades, and they say nature's in a lamentable state. despite the number of plans that we've had, the government haven't
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met targets for restoring nature. there are 70,000 species in the uk — from fungi, plants, insects and mammals — and around 2/5 of those are in decline. a people's plan for nature is really important because it allows civil society and business and government to work together towards a shared goal. what's the main message from ordinary people about what we need to be doing to restore nature? just any little change, you can help, and do, do it, i think would be it. it's no change is too small. 0ur islands are known for their natural wonders, from bluebells, to butterflies and badgers, but experts say reversing decades of devastating losses will involve efforts from every one of us, on a scale we've never seen before. helen briggs, bbc news, in the thames valley.
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i began this hour talking about the congressional hearing in washington. let's hear the later stage, this is the chief executive of tiktok, shou zi chew. ., ., , .., , zi chew. there are many companies with shared — zi chew. there are many companies with shared resources _ zi chew. there are many companies with shared resources on _ zi chew. there are many companies with shared resources on some - with shared resources on some services — with shared resources on some services but it doesn't include anything _ services but it doesn't include anything that involves us user data. it is anything that involves us user data. it is stored — anything that involves us user data. it is stored by default in american soil by— it is stored by default in american soil by an — it is stored by default in american soil by an american company. but currentl soil by an american company. emit currently there is interconnected it systems? currently there is interconnected it sstems? ., ,, ., ,, . systems? congressman, with respect i will have to get — systems? congressman, with respect i will have to get back— systems? congressman, with respect i will have to get back to _ systems? congressman, with respect i will have to get back to you, _ systems? congressman, with respect i will have to get back to you, this - will have to get back to you, this could _ will have to get back to you, this could he — will have to get back to you, this could he a — will have to get back to you, this could be a very broad question. we could _ could be a very broad question. we could he _ could be a very broad question. we could be using microsoft windows. if you could be using microsoft windows. you could could be using microsoft windows. if you could get back with that, yes. can employees access tiktok user
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data? ., ., ., . ., , , data? not after pro'ect texas, this is not allowed. — data? not after pro'ect texas, this is not allowed. are— data? not after project texas, this is not allowed. are there - data? not after project texas, this i is not allowed. are there employees emlo ed is not allowed. are there employees employed by — is not allowed. are there employees employed by both — is not allowed. are there employees employed by both companies - is not allowed. are there employees i employed by both companies including tiktok? i employed by both companies including tiktok? ., �* ~ i employed by both companies including tiktok?_ i will - tiktok? i don't think so. i will allow you _ tiktok? i don't think so. i will allow you to _ tiktok? i don't think so. i will allow you to come _ tiktok? i don't think so. i will allow you to come back- tiktok? i don't think so. i will allow you to come back with l tiktok? i don't think so. i will| allow you to come back with a written response. i allow you to come back with a written response.— allow you to come back with a written response. i will go back and check to be — written response. i will go back and check to be very — written response. i will go back and check to be very sure. _ written response. i will go back and check to be very sure. thank - written response. i will go back and check to be very sure. thank you. l written response. i will go back and check to be very sure. thank you. i | check to be very sure. thank you. i am also concerned _ check to be very sure. thank you. i am also concerned about _ check to be very sure. thank you. i am also concerned about an - check to be very sure. thank you. i am also concerned about an issue. check to be very sure. thank you. i i am also concerned about an issue our chairwoman brought up about an apparent pattern of misrepresentation from your company in regards to the amount and extent of data that you are collecting, as well as how much has been accessed from inside china. there are dozens of reports that include people in the people's republic of china have been accessing data on us users directly contradicting several statements by tiktok employees and i'm referencing project raven, which was reported on by forbes last october. a bid investigation
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revealed... sorry, iam october. a bid investigation revealed... sorry, i am out of time do you want to respond to that? we do you want to respond to that? we do not condone the effort by certain former_ do not condone the effort by certain former employees to access us tiktok user data _ former employees to access us tiktok user data to— former employees to access us tiktok user data to identify the source of leaked _ user data to identify the source of leaked confidential information. we condemu— leaked confidential information. we condemn those actions and we find are highly— condemn those actions and we find are highly reputable law firm who investigated the incident. we took swift. _ investigated the incident. we took swift, disciplinary action against employees and implementing measures to make _ employees and implementing measures to make sure this doesn't happen again _ to make sure this doesn't happen aaain. ,, ., ., to make sure this doesn't happen alain. ,, ., ., ~' , to make sure this doesn't happen aaain. ,, ., ., ,, , ., again. shou zi chew, a key part of this is pushing _ again. shou zi chew, a key part of this is pushing back— again. shou zi chew, a key part of this is pushing back against - again. shou zi chew, a key part of this is pushing back against the i this is pushing back against the stories of staff members who were involved in providing private data from tiktok users, including journalists which is one of the key concerns. that is the energy committee of the us congress and that hearing continues. we havejust heard from richard hudson, a north carolina republican and we will have more questions in the next hour. you are watching bbc news.
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a lot more rainbows to be spotted out there i suspect. it will be unsettled for the rest of the week some wet and windy weather and also sunshine at times. mild at the moment but turning colder over the weekend. forthe moment but turning colder over the weekend. for the rest of this afternoon, widespread sunny spells and showers but it is dry across scotland than yesterday. heavy rain for the northern isles and bahrain to the south of england and eventually east anglia by the end of the day. the street with a south—westerly breeze toward south facing codes with some overtopping here at high tide. the temperature is mild for the time of year, peaking between 12 and 15 celsius. through this evening and overnight this area rain towards the south 0akley and there is some uncertainty to the northern extent of the rain. clear skies developing are still some showers across northern ireland and scotland. the frost free start to friday.
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this is bbc news — welcome if you're watching here in the uk or around the globe. i'm shaun ley. our top stories... tiktok�*s chief appears at the us congress, telling a hearing that the company takes concerns over user data and national security "very seriously". explosion. 0n the frontline in southern ukraine, where troops loyal to kyiv are holding their defences, despite constant attacks from russian shelling. more protests in israel after parliament ratifies a law that would make it more difficult for courts to remove a prime minister deemed unfit for office.
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we start in the us, where the head of the social media app, tiktok, has been giving evidence to congress over security concerns. shou zi chew is likely to face a barrage of questions on tiktok�*s relationship with the chinese state, what data it collects and what it does with it. republican cathy rodgers is chairing the hearing, and she stood firm on the possibility of a nationwide us ban. i expect today you will say anything to avoid this outcome, like you are, 100% responsible for what tiktok does, that you suddenly endorse a national day privacy standard, that project texas is more than a
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marketing scheme, that tiktok doesn't harm our innocent children. 0r doesn't harm our innocent children. or that your ties to chinese communist party through bytedance is just a myth. we are not buying it. that is cathy rodgers, who is the chair of that committee in the us congress. however, ceo shou zi chew seemed to want to distance both himself and tiktok from any connection to china and its government. nepa us tiktok data is stored by default in oracle servers. emir; default in oracle servers. only personnel— default in oracle servers. only personnel operating _ default in oracle servers. only personnel operating in - default in oracle servers. only personnel operating in a - default in oracle servers. only personnel operating in a new company called _ personnel operating in a new company called tiktok us data security can control— called tiktok us data security can control access to this data. additionally, we have plans for this company— additionally, we have plans for this company to report to an independent american _ company to report to an independent american board with strong security credentials. now, there is still some — credentials. now, there is still some work to do. we have legacy us data sitting _
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some work to do. we have legacy us data sitting on our servers in their junior— data sitting on our servers in their junior and — data sitting on our servers in their junior and singapore. we are deleting _ junior and singapore. we are deleting those and we expect that to be complete this year. when that is done, _ be complete this year. when that is done, all— be complete this year. when that is done, all protected us data will be under— done, all protected us data will be under the — done, all protected us data will be under the protection of us law and under— under the protection of us law and under the — under the protection of us law and under the control of the us led security— under the control of the us led security team. this eliminates the concern _ security team. this eliminates the concern that some of you have shared with me _ concern that some of you have shared with me that— concern that some of you have shared with me that tiktok user data can be subject— with me that tiktok user data can be subject to _ with me that tiktok user data can be subject to chinese law. this goes further, — subject to chinese law. this goes further, lry— subject to chinese law. this goes further, by the way, than what any other— further, by the way, than what any other company in our industry has done _ other company in our industry has done we — other company in our industry has done. we also provide unprecedented transparency and security for the source _ transparency and security for the source code for the tiktok app and recommended engine. third party validation — recommended engine. third party validation is like 0racle recommended engine. third party validation is like oracle and others will validation is like 0racle and others will review— validation is like oracle and others will review and validate our source code _ will review and validate our source code and _ will review and validate our source code and algorithms. this will help ensure _ code and algorithms. this will help ensure the — code and algorithms. this will help ensure the integrity of the code that powers what americans see on our app _ that powers what americans see on our app we — that powers what americans see on our app. we will further provide access— our app. we will further provide access to — our app. we will further provide access to researchers which helps them _ access to researchers which helps them study and monitor our current ecosystem — them study and monitor our current ecosystem. we believe we are the only, _ ecosystem. we believe we are the only, the — ecosystem. we believe we are the only, the only company that offers this level— only, the only company that offers this level of transparency. shou
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only, the only company that offers this level of transparency.- this level of transparency. shou zi chew, this level of transparency. shou zi chew. and — this level of transparency. shou zi chew. and my _ apologies for getting his name incorrectly pronounced earlier. let's bring you some live pictures now from washington, where tiktok�*s chief executive is taking questions from the us house of representatives energy and commerce committee. this committee is chaired by republicans, but there is little difference in fat, in the position of the two parties are adopting on this one. let's hearfrom miss chelsea, who i think i'm right in saying is a democrat. i chelsea, who i think i'm right in saying is a democrat.— chelsea, who i think i'm right in saying is a democrat. i yelled back. the chair recognises _ saying is a democrat. i yelled back. the chair recognises the _ saying is a democrat. i yelled back. the chair recognises the lady - saying is a democrat. i yelled back. the chair recognises the lady from | the chair recognises the lady from florida for five minutes.— the chair recognises the lady from florida for five minutes. thank you, madam chairwoman. _ florida for five minutes. thank you, madam chairwoman. mr— florida for five minutes. thank you, madam chairwoman. mr chew, - florida for five minutes. thank you, madam chairwoman. mr chew, are| florida for five minutes. thank you, i madam chairwoman. mr chew, are you aware _ madam chairwoman. mr chew, are you aware of— madam chairwoman. mr chew, are you aware of shooting pain's comment during _ aware of shooting pain's comment during may of 2021 during a communist party session where he instructed — communist party session where he instructed colleagues to target different countries, different audiences with short form video? are you aware _ audiences with short form video? are you aware of— audiences with short form video? are you aware of these comments, yes or
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no? ., , , ., ., ., you aware of these comments, yes or no? ., ,, ., ., ., ., ., ., ., no? congresswoman, i am not aware of these comments- — no? congresswoman, i am not aware of these comments. ok. _ no? congresswoman, i am not aware of these comments. ok. as _ no? congresswoman, i am not aware of these comments. ok. as was _ no? congresswoman, i am not aware of these comments. ok. as was pointed i these comments. ok. as was pointed out by chairwoman _ these comments. ok. as was pointed out by chairwoman cathy _ these comments. ok. as was pointed out by chairwoman cathy rodgers, i these comments. ok. as was pointedl out by chairwoman cathy rodgers, you have regular— out by chairwoman cathy rodgers, you have regular contact with chinese communist party secretary, who is your boss— communist party secretary, who is your boss at— communist party secretary, who is your boss at bytedance, correct? no. he is neither _ your boss at bytedance, correct? no. he is neither my — your boss at bytedance, correct? no. he is neither my boss, nor do we have _ he is neither my boss, nor do we have regular— he is neither my boss, nor do we have regular contact. _ he is neither my boss, nor do we have regular contact. but- he is neither my boss, nor do we have regular contact.— have regular contact. but do you have regular contact. but do you have regular _ have regular contact. but do you have regular contact _ have regular contact. but do you have regular contact with - have regular contact. but do you - have regular contact with bytedance? with the _ have regular contact with bytedance? with the ceo of bytedance. this man i with the ceo of bytedance. this man i refer— with the ceo of bytedance. this man i refer to _ with the ceo of bytedance. this man i refer to is _ with the ceo of bytedance. this man i refer to is the — with the ceo of bytedance. this man i refer to is the editor— with the ceo of bytedance. this man i refer to is the editor my— i refer to is the editor my colleague _ i refer to is the editor my colleague a _ i refer to is the editor my colleague a few - i refer to is the editor my colleague a few minutesl i refer to is the editor my. colleague a few minutes ago i refer to is the editor my— colleague a few minutes ago shared that bytedance _ colleague a few minutes ago shared that bytedance and... _ colleague a few minutes ago shared that bytedance and... share - colleague a few minutes ago shared that bytedance and... share legal. that bytedance and... share legal teams. _ that bytedance and... share legal teams. is — that bytedance and... share legal teams. is this— that bytedance and... share legal teams, is this correct? _ that bytedance and... share legal teams, is this correct? also, - that bytedance and... share legal teams, is this correct? also, my. teams, is this correct? also, my colleague — teams, is this correct? also, my colleague confirmed _ teams, is this correct? also, my colleague confirmed that - teams, is this correct? also, my colleague confirmed that your. colleague confirmed that your company, _ colleague confirmed that your company, bytedance - colleague confirmed that your company, bytedance can- colleague confirmed that your- company, bytedance can currently access — company, bytedance can currently access your _ company, bytedance can currently access your data, _ company, bytedance can currently access your data, yes, _ company, bytedance can currently access your data, yes, we - company, bytedance can currently access your data, yes, we have . company, bytedance can currently access your data, yes, we have to| company, bytedance can currently. access your data, yes, we have to be more _ access your data, yes, we have to be more specificm _ access your data, yes, we have to be more specific... yes? _ access your data, yes, we have to be more specific... yes? i— access your data, yes, we have to be more specific... yes? i am _ access your data, yes, we have to be more specific... yes? i am not- more specific... yes? lam not asking — more specific... yes? lam not asking after _ more specific... yes? lam not asking after project _ more specific... yes? lam not asking after project texas, - more specific... yes? lam not asking after project texas, i. more specific... yes? i am notl asking after project texas, i am asking — asking after project texas, i am asking now _ asking after pro'ect texas, i am asking now.— asking after pro'ect texas, i am askini now. , ., ., , , , . asking now. some user data is public data, which — asking now. some user data is public data, which means _ asking now. some user data is public data, which means everybody - asking now. some user data is public data, which means everybody can - asking now. some user data is public| data, which means everybody can see that. ~ ., , , data, which means everybody can see
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that. . ., , , ., , that. what is interesting to me is ou have that. what is interesting to me is you have used — that. what is interesting to me is you have used the _ that. what is interesting to me is you have used the word - that. what is interesting to me is - you have used the word transparency over half— you have used the word transparency over half a _ you have used the word transparency over half a dozen _ you have used the word transparency over half a dozen times _ you have used the word transparency over half a dozen times in _ you have used the word transparency over half a dozen times in opening i over half a dozen times in opening testimony— over half a dozen times in opening testimony and _ over half a dozen times in opening testimony and subsequently - over half a dozen times in opening testimony and subsequently again| over half a dozen times in opening . testimony and subsequently again in your answers — testimony and subsequently again in your answers to _ testimony and subsequently again in your answers to my _ testimony and subsequently again in your answers to my colleagues, - testimony and subsequently again in your answers to my colleagues, yetl your answers to my colleagues, yet the interesting _ your answers to my colleagues, yet the interesting thing _ your answers to my colleagues, yet the interesting thing to— your answers to my colleagues, yet the interesting thing to me - your answers to my colleagues, yet the interesting thing to me is - your answers to my colleagues, yet the interesting thing to me is that. the interesting thing to me is that bytedance, — the interesting thing to me is that bytedance. your— the interesting thing to me is that bytedance, your parent _ the interesting thing to me is thatj bytedance, your parent company, the interesting thing to me is that- bytedance, your parent company, has .one bytedance, your parent company, has gone out — bytedance, your parent company, has gone out of— bytedance, your parent company, has gone out of the — bytedance, your parent company, has gone out of the way — bytedance, your parent company, has gone out of the way to _ bytedance, your parent company, has gone out of the way to hide _ bytedance, your parent company, has gone out of the way to hide an - gone out of the way to hide an airbrush— gone out of the way to hide an airbrush corporate _ gone out of the way to hide an airbrush corporate structure i gone out of the way to hide an i airbrush corporate structure ties gone out of the way to hide an - airbrush corporate structure ties to the ccp. _ airbrush corporate structure ties to the ccp. the — airbrush corporate structure ties to the ccp, the company's _ airbrush corporate structure ties to the ccp, the company's founder. airbrush corporate structure ties to. the ccp, the company's founder and their activities. _ the ccp, the company's founder and their activities. you _ the ccp, the company's founder and their activities. you can— the ccp, the company's founder and their activities. you can look- the ccp, the company's founder and their activities. you can look no- their activities. you can look no further— their activities. you can look no further than _ their activities. you can look no further than the _ their activities. you can look no further than the fact _ their activities. you can look no further than the fact that - their activities. you can look no- further than the fact that bytedance website _ further than the fact that bytedance website has — further than the fact that bytedance website has been _ further than the fact that bytedance website has been scrapped. - further than the fact that bytedance website has been scrapped. in- further than the fact that bytedance website has been scrapped. in fact, | website has been scrapped. in fact, website has been scrapped. in fact, we found _ website has been scrapped. in fact, we found pages— website has been scrapped. in fact, we found pages from _ website has been scrapped. in fact, we found pages from the _ website has been scrapped. in fact, we found pages from the beijing. we found pages from the beijing internet— we found pages from the beijing internet association, _ we found pages from the beijing internet association, the - we found pages from the beijing | internet association, the internet association — internet association, the internet association charged _ internet association, the internet association charged with - internet association, the internet i association charged with communist party building — association charged with communist party building work _ association charged with communist party building work of _ association charged with communist party building work of internet - party building work of internet companies _ party building work of internet companies in _ party building work of internet companies in beijing. - party building work of internet companies in beijing. they- party building work of internet i companies in beijing. they have party building work of internet - companies in beijing. they have been archived, _ companies in beijing. they have been archived, but— companies in beijing. they have been archived, but since _ companies in beijing. they have been archived, but since deleted. - companies in beijing. they have been archived, but since deleted. makes . archived, but since deleted. makes you kind _ archived, but since deleted. makes you kind of— archived, but since deleted. makes you kind of wonder— archived, but since deleted. makes you kind of wonder why. _ archived, but since deleted. makes you kind of wonder why. yes- archived, but since deleted. makes you kind of wonder why. yes or- archived, but since deleted. makesj you kind of wonder why. yes or no, bytedance — you kind of wonder why. yes or no, bytedance is — you kind of wonder why. yes or no, bytedance is required _ you kind of wonder why. yes or no, bytedance is required to— you kind of wonder why. yes or no, bytedance is required to have - you kind of wonder why. yes or no, bytedance is required to have a - bytedance is required to have a member— bytedance is required to have a member of— bytedance is required to have a member of the— bytedance is required to have a member of the chinese - bytedance is required to have a - member of the chinese government on its board _ member of the chinese government on its board with _ member of the chinese government on its board with veto _ member of the chinese government on its board with veto power? _ member of the chinese government on its board with veto power? no. - member of the chinese government on its board with veto power?— its board with veto power? no, that is not its board with veto power? no, that is riot correct- _ its board with veto power? no, that is not correct. bytedance _ its board with veto power? no, that is not correct. bytedance and - its board with veto power? no, that is not correct. bytedance and some | is not correct. bytedance and some chinese _ is not correct. bytedance and some chinese businesses and you are talking — chinese businesses and you are talking about a very special subsidiary that is for chinese business _ subsidiary that is for chinese business license... i�*m subsidiary that is for chinese business license... i'm going to have to move — business license... i'm going to have to move on, _ business license... i'm going to have to move on, mr _ business license... i'm going to have to move on, mr chew. - business license... i'm going to| have to move on, mr chew. you business license... i'm going to - have to move on, mr chew. you have repeatedly_ have to move on, mr chew. you have repeatedly said — have to move on, mr chew. you have repeatedly said there _ have to move on, mr chew. you have repeatedly said there is _ have to move on, mr chew. you have repeatedly said there is no _ have to move on, mr chew. you have repeatedly said there is no threat, i repeatedly said there is no threat, that this _ repeatedly said there is no threat, that this is — repeatedly said there is no threat, that this is a — repeatedly said there is no threat, that this is a platform _ repeatedly said there is no threat, that this is a platform for- that this is a platform for
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entertainment— that this is a platform for entertainment and- that this is a platform for entertainment and fun. i that this is a platform for. entertainment and fun. but i that this is a platform for- entertainment and fun. but i have that this is a platform for— entertainment and fun. but i have to ask you. _ entertainment and fun. but i have to ask you. if— entertainment and fun. but i have to ask you. ifthere— entertainment and fun. but i have to ask you, if there is _ entertainment and fun. but i have to ask you, if there is no _ entertainment and fun. but i have to ask you, if there is no threat - entertainment and fun. but i have to ask you, if there is no threat to - ask you, if there is no threat to americans. _ ask you, if there is no threat to americans. if— ask you, if there is no threat to americans, if there _ ask you, if there is no threat to americans, if there is - ask you, if there is no threat to americans, if there is no - ask you, if there is no threat toj americans, if there is no threat ask you, if there is no threat to i americans, if there is no threat to our data _ americans, if there is no threat to our data privacy— americans, if there is no threat to our data privacy and _ americans, if there is no threat to our data privacy and security, - americans, if there is no threat to our data privacy and security, whyj our data privacy and security, why did an _ our data privacy and security, why did an internal— our data privacy and security, why did an internal memo _ our data privacy and security, why did an internal memo from - our data privacy and security, whyl did an internal memo from tiktok, corporate — did an internal memo from tiktok, corporate headquarters, _ did an internal memo from tiktok, corporate headquarters, explicitlyl corporate headquarters, explicitly coach _ corporate headquarters, explicitly coach senior— corporate headquarters, explicitly coach senior management - corporate headquarters, explicitly coach senior management to, - corporate headquarters, explicitly. coach senior management to, quote, downplay— coach senior management to, quote, downplay the — coach senior management to, quote, downplay the parent _ coach senior management to, quote, downplay the parent company, - downplay the parent company, bytedance? _ downplay the parent company, bytedance? why _ downplay the parent company, bytedance? why would - downplay the parent company, bytedance? why would they i downplay the parent company, . bytedance? why would they say, downplayed — bytedance? why would they say, downplayed the _ bytedance? why would they say, downplayed the china _ bytedance? why would they say, | downplayed the china association bytedance? why would they say, - downplayed the china association and downplay _ downplayed the china association and downplay ai? — downplayed the china association and downplay ai? this _ downplayed the china association and downplay ai? this is _ downplayed the china association and downplay ai? this is from _ downplayed the china association and downplay ai? this is from an - downplay ai? this is from an internal— downplay ai? this is from an internal memo _ downplay ai? this is from an internal memo from - downplay ai? this is from an internal memo from your. downplay ai? this is from an - internal memo from your company. why. _ internal memo from your company. why. if— internal memo from your company. why. if you — internal memo from your company. why. if you had _ internal memo from your company. why, if you had nothing _ internal memo from your company. why, if you had nothing to- internal memo from your company. why, if you had nothing to hide, . why, if you had nothing to hide, would _ why, if you had nothing to hide, would you — why, if you had nothing to hide, would you need _ why, if you had nothing to hide, would you need to _ why, if you had nothing to hide, would you need to downplay - why, if you had nothing to hide, would you need to downplay the association _ would you need to downplay the association with _ would you need to downplay the association with bytedance - would you need to downplay the association with bytedance and i association with bytedance and china? — association with bytedance and china? ., ,, ., ., ., ., china? congresswoman, i have not seen this memo... _ china? congresswoman, i have not seen this memo... you _ china? congresswoman, i have not seen this memo... you can - china? congresswoman, i have not seen this memo... you can answerj seen this memo... you can answer that question- _ seen this memo... you can answer that question. mr _ seen this memo... you can answer that question. mr chew, _ seen this memo. .. you can answer that question. mr chew, i - seen this memo... you can answer that question. mr chew, i would i seen this memo... you can answer. that question. mr chew, i would like to address _ that question. mr chew, i would like to address your— that question. mr chew, i would like to address your attention _ that question. mr chew, i would like to address your attention to - that question. mr chew, i would like to address your attention to the - to address your attention to the screen — to address your attention to the screen for— to address your attention to the screen for a _ to address your attention to the screen for a short _ to address your attention to the screen for a short video, - to address your attention to the screen for a short video, if - to address your attention to the screen for a short video, if you i screen for a short video, if you don't _ screen for a short video, if you don't mind _
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we will leave the committee while it is plain that video and we will go live to capitol hill and our correspondent, michelle fleury. this is not the only country that has concerns about this. the british parliament has just today announced a ban on its staff using tiktok in any official capacity and on any official equipment, following the regulation of the british government that has done the same. tiktok is in some trouble, isn't it, on this question of regulatory control? and indeed, more importantly, the dissemination of data to government agencies back in china?— agencies back in china? look, when ou see agencies back in china? look, when you see these _ agencies back in china? look, when you see these kinds _ agencies back in china? look, when you see these kinds of _ agencies back in china? look, when you see these kinds of hearings, . you see these kinds of hearings, there is often an element of grandstanding, but i think what is notable already, what we are seeing is that the parties on both sides are actually united in their concern about tiktok and that is leading to some pretty testy exchanges, a lot
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of it centring around this concern that it of it centring around this concern thatitis of it centring around this concern that it is untrustworthy because of its connections to china, but it is potentially a vehicle for spying for un—americans. it is perhaps a vehicle for manipulating americans and potentially being used for blackmail. so i think that is being reflected in the tone and, as you mentioned, we already have these us government bans in terms of people able to use tiktok and now the uk is following suit. the big question is, can the ceo do enough to kind of calm nerves here, to try and sort of tamp down some of the torque that has returned, which is this idea of banning tiktok altogether from the united states? this is something that was first floated by donald trump a couple of years ago. in that context, trump a couple of years ago. in that context. how _ trump a couple of years ago. in that context, how much _ trump a couple of years ago. in that context, how much is _ trump a couple of years ago. in that context, how much is this _ trump a couple of years ago. in that context, how much is this kind - trump a couple of years ago. in that context, how much is this kind of. context, how much is this kind of following the precedent that was set by the decisions on huawei, which obviously is a telecoms company, slightly different, but in a sense
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of the concerns seem to be the same? absolutely, this is all part of the escalating tensions between the us and china. i think what is going to be interesting, and it is the point you are seeing the ceo of tiktok, shou zi chew, try to make, is that this is a platform which has 150 million users in the united states. it has many small businesses that use and rely on its platform, and it brought a bunch of influences to capitol hill yesterday to make the point that they derive their income from this platform. so the point he is making is when you're talking about that many people, one in three americans potentially using this site, what happens if a ban is successful? many americans would notice. would they be happy about that? i mean, he is making the bets that? i mean, he is making the bets that they wouldn't be. lawmakers are saying, well, perhaps national security concerns trump that. what security concerns trump that. what about the point— security concerns trump that. what about the point that _ security concerns trump that. what about the point that he _ security concerns trump that. what about the point that he himself made during his opening statement to the committee about an hour ago, that
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actually the whole platform's approach, its use of technology and its use of disseminating the information it has, for example, for the benefit of advertisers, is no different from that that is used by apps globally, notjust his app? i mean, data privacy is not a new concern. i think it is one that is shared, as you point out, beyond tiktok. the same is true, you could say, for matter�*s reveals, for youtube's, which is owned by google, that concern exists. what makes this different is the ownership, the connection to china and that is where he faces more scrutiny, more questions, he is taking the heat that other big american tech giants are not right now and they are probably feeling quite relieved that the spotlight is on tiktok and the question is do they, as you point out, go the way of huawei? there
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does seem to be this building of sentiment in that direction, which perhaps explains why the company has spent more than $13 million in lobbying effort to try to avert that outcome. ~ . , ., ., outcome. michelle fleury, for now, thank ou outcome. michelle fleury, for now, thank you very _ outcome. michelle fleury, for now, thank you very much. _ outcome. michelle fleury, for now, thank you very much. we _ outcome. michelle fleury, for now, thank you very much. we are - outcome. michelle fleury, for now, thank you very much. we are going| outcome. michelle fleury, for now, i thank you very much. we are going to go back to the committee and hear from what is happening from representative of california, whose questioning shou zi chew. i will get ou on the questioning shou zi chew. i will get you on the specific— questioning shou zi chew. i will get you on the specific records - questioning shou zi chew. i will get you on the specific records you're i you on the specific records you're talking about.— talking about. ok, i will wait for that. talking about. ok, i will wait for that- over— talking about. ok, i will wait for that. over the _ talking about. ok, i will wait for that. over the past _ talking about. ok, i will wait for that. over the past few - talking about. ok, i will wait for that. over the past few years, i that. over the past few years, alarming — that. over the past few years, alarming information brought to li-ht alarming information brought to light by— alarming information brought to light by whistle—blowers have shown that social _ light by whistle—blowers have shown that social media companies intimately aware of the effect their products— intimately aware of the effect their products have on young women, political— products have on young women, political extremism and more. despite — political extremism and more. despite this, they withheld their studies — despite this, they withheld their studies or declined to investigate further~ _ studies or declined to investigate further~ in — studies or declined to investigate further. in either case, it shows a pattern— further. in either case, it shows a pattern of— further. in either case, it shows a pattern of invasive or negligent behaviour that i find concerning in the extreme. mr chew, does tiktok conduct _ the extreme. mr chew, does tiktok conduct its — the extreme. mr chew, does tiktok conduct its own studies on the
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effect — conduct its own studies on the effect of— conduct its own studies on the effect of its algorithms in content distribution models on mental health or safety? _ distribution models on mental health or safety? and if so, how and when those _ or safety? and if so, how and when those findings made public? and if not, those findings made public? and if not. do _ those findings made public? and if not. do you — those findings made public? and if not, do you believe they are necessary? not, do you believe they are necessa ? ., , , ., ., , not, do you believe they are necessa ? ., ,, ., ., , ., necessary? congresswoman, we rely on external third _ necessary? congresswoman, we rely on external third parties _ necessary? congresswoman, we rely on external third parties and _ necessary? congresswoman, we rely on external third parties and fund - external third parties and fund their research to help us understand some of these issues. for example, we worked with the digital wellness lab and the boston children's hospital to understand the 60 minute time minute dammit we put on all under 16 users and we support legislation that provides more funding for research, for example, the nih. ,, ., ., , , the nih. ok. tiktok tailors its recommended _ the nih. ok. tiktok tailors its recommended content - the nih. ok. tiktok tailors its recommended content based| the nih. ok. tiktoktailors itsi recommended content based on the nih. ok. tiktoktailors its- recommended content based on users' activity— recommended content based on users' activity to— recommended content based on users' activity to encourage people to spend — activity to encourage people to spend more time on the app. while this practice is by no means unique to tiktok. — this practice is by no means unique to tiktok, given the prevalence of young _ to tiktok, given the prevalence of young users and the digestible nature — young users and the digestible nature of short form video, i am concerned — nature of short form video, i am concerned about the app's tendency to exacerbate existing mental health challenges. mr chu, does tiktok have
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different— challenges. mr chu, does tiktok have different policies for amplifying content — different policies for amplifying content that would be related to depression or dieting, versus content. _ depression or dieting, versus content, like gardening and sports? if content, like gardening and sports? if yes. _ content, like gardening and sports? if yes, describe these policy differences. if no, why not? congresswoman, thank you, this is a great question. the answer is yes, we are trying out some policies, together with experts, to understand content that are not inherently harmful, like extreme fitness, for example, but should not be seen too much. these are models we are building and we are trying to understand, together with experts, how best to implement them across our platform, particularly for younger users.— our platform, particularly for younger users. our platform, particularly for ounier users. , , younger users. ok, so in cases where users have — younger users. ok, so in cases where users have been _ younger users. ok, so in cases where users have been engaging _ younger users. ok, so in cases where users have been engaging with - users have been engaging with potentially harmful content, i believe — potentially harmful content, i believe it is imperative that the 8pp believe it is imperative that the app take — believe it is imperative that the app take steps to moderate that behaviour, ratherthan app take steps to moderate that behaviour, rather than continuing to promote _ behaviour, rather than continuing to promote it — behaviour, rather than continuing to aromote it. ., ., , ., promote it. that means, in a sense- -- _ promote it. that means, in a sense- -- i — promote it. that means, in a sense... i apologise, - promote it. that means, in a sense... i apologise, i- promote it. that means, in a | sense... i apologise, i wasn't clear. first, anything that is
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violative and harmful will be removed. what i meant to say was that content that is not inherently harmful, like some of the extreme fitness videos about people running 100 miles, it is not inherently harmful, but if we show them too much, the experts are telling us that we should disperse them more and make sure they are not seen too regularly, especially by young individuals. 50 regularly, especially by young individuals.— regularly, especially by young individuals. �* ., ., individuals. so you're intentional about that. _ individuals. so you're intentional about that, then? _ individuals. so you're intentional about that, then? it _ individuals. so you're intentional about that, then? it is _ individuals. so you're intentional| about that, then? it is something you arem — about that, then? it is something you are... we about that, then? it is something you are- - -— you are... we are working on it, es. you are... we are working on it, yes- you're _ you are... we are working on it, yes. you're working _ you are... we are working on it, yes. you're working on - you are... we are working on it, yes. you're working on it? - you are... we are working on it, yes. you're working on it? i - you are... we are working on it, i yes. you're working on it? i yelled back. yes. you're working on it? i yelled back- the — yes. you're working on it? i yelled back. the chair _ yes. you're working on it? i yelled back. the chair recognises - yes. you're working on it? i yelled back. the chair recognises the - back. the chair recognises the gentleman _ back. the chair recognises the gentleman from _ back. the chair recognises the gentleman from florida, - back. the chair recognises the gentleman from florida, for i back. the chair recognises the i gentleman from florida, for five minutes — gentleman from florida, for five minutes. ., .. gentleman from florida, for five minutes. ., ,, , ., gentleman from florida, for five minutes. ., ., . ., minutes. thank you, madam chair. i appreciated — minutes. thank you, madam chair. i appreciated very _ minutes. thank you, madam chair. i appreciated very much. _ minutes. thank you, madam chair. i appreciated very much. thank - minutes. thank you, madam chair. i appreciated very much. thank you i minutes. thank you, madam chair. i l appreciated very much. thank you for holding _ appreciated very much. thank you for holding here. mr chew, your algorithms have prioritised providing harmful content directly to children, like self—harm challenges and even suicide. just three _ challenges and even suicide. just three days ago, italy opened an investigation into tiktok over user
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safety— investigation into tiktok over user safety concerns after the so—called french _ safety concerns after the so—called french scar — safety concerns after the so—called french scar challenge went viral on your platform. i know you know about the blackout— your platform. i know you know about the blackout challenge, which others may know _ the blackout challenge, which others may know as the choking challenge that encourages children to bring themselves to the point of unconsciousness or in some cases, tragically. _ unconsciousness or in some cases, tragically, death. if that isn't enough. _ tragically, death. if that isn't enough. i— tragically, death. if that isn't enough, iwant tragically, death. if that isn't enough, i want to share the story of a 16—year—old boy from new york, who a16—year—old boy from new york, who tragically— a 16—year—old boy from new york, who tragically ended his life a year ago. — tragically ended his life a year ago. by— tragically ended his life a year ago, by stepping in front of a train — ago, by stepping in front of a train i— ago, by stepping in front of a train. i wanted to thank his parents again. _ train. i wanted to thank his parents again. they— train. i wanted to thank his parents again, they are here, iwant train. i wanted to thank his parents again, they are here, i want to again, they are here, iwant to thank— again, they are here, iwant to thank his— again, they are here, i want to thank his parents for being here today— thank his parents for being here today and — thank his parents for being here today and allowing us to show this. mr chew. _ today and allowing us to show this. mr chew, your company destroyed their lives — mr chew, your company destroyed their lives. your company destroyed their lives. your company destroyed their lives —
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their lives. your company destroyed their lives i— their lives. your company destroyed their lives. i admire their courage to be _ their lives. i admire their courage to be here — their lives. i admire their courage to be here and share chase's story, in the _ to be here and share chase's story, in the hope — to be here and share chase's story, in the hope that it will prevent this from _ in the hope that it will prevent this from happening to other families _ this from happening to other families. the contents in chase's page _ families. the contents in chase's page was— families. the contents in chase's page was not a window to discovery, as you _ page was not a window to discovery, as you boldly claimed in your testimony. it wasn't content from a creator— testimony. it wasn't content from a creator that — testimony. it wasn't content from a creator that you are invited to roam the hill— creator that you are invited to roam the hill today or stem content that children— the hill today or stem content that children in— the hill today or stem content that children in china sea. instead, his au children in china sea. instead, his 4“ page _ children in china sea. instead, his au page was sadly a window to discover— au page was sadly a window to discover suicide. it is unacceptable, sir, that even after knowing — unacceptable, sir, that even after knowing all these dangers, you still claim _ knowing all these dangers, you still claim tiktok is something grand to behold _ claim tiktok is something grand to behold i_ claim tiktok is something grand to behold. i want you to see what chase would _ behold. i want you to see what chase would see _ behold. i want you to see what chase would see. and i think, again, would you share _ would see. and i think, again, would you share this content with your
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children. — you share this content with your children, with your two children? would _ children, with your two children? would you — children, with your two children? would you want them to see this? and again. _ would you want them to see this? and again. i— would you want them to see this? and again. iwant— would you want them to see this? and again, i want to warn everyone watching — again, i want to warn everyone watching that you may find this content — watching that you may find this content disturbing, but we need to watch _ content disturbing, but we need to watch this. — content disturbing, but we need to watch this, please.— watch this, please. player tip... you have _ watch this, please. player tip... you have got — watch this, please. player tip... you have got kill _ watch this, please. player tip... you have got kill yourself. - watch this, please. player tip... you have got kill yourself. a - watch this, please. player tip... i you have got kill yourself. a word? riiht you have got kill yourself. a word? right now? — you have got kill yourself. a word? right now? i'm _ you have got kill yourself. a word? right now? i'm going _ you have got kill yourself. a word? right now? i'm going to _ you have got kill yourself. a word? right now? i'm going to put - you have got kill yourself. a word? right now? i'm going to put a - right now? i'm going to put a shoti un right now? i'm going to put a shotgun in — right now? i'm going to put a shotgun in my _ right now? i'm going to put a shotgun in my mouth - right now? i'm going to put a shotgun in my mouth and - right now? i'm going to put a | shotgun in my mouth and blow right now? i'm going to put a - shotgun in my mouth and blow the brains _ shotgun in my mouth and blow the brains out — shotgun in my mouth and blow the brains out of the back of my head. cook _ this is a cute story. my brother, who— this is a cute story. my brother, who was— this is a cute story. my brother, who was addicted _ this is a cute story. my brother, who was addicted to _ this is a cute story. my brother, who was addicted to painkillers, blew— who was addicted to painkillers, blew his — who was addicted to painkillers, blew his head _ who was addicted to painkillers, blew his head off— who was addicted to painkillers, blew his head off on _ who was addicted to painkillers, blew his head off on this - who was addicted to painkillers, blew his head off on this date i blew his head off on this date street— blew his head off on this date street bridge! _ blew his head off on this date street bridge! iunite.— blew his head off on this date street bridge!— blew his head off on this date street bridge! blew his head off on this date street bride! . ., ., ., , street bridge! we are going to pull awa from street bridge! we are going to pull away from the _ street bridge! we are going to pull away from the committee - street bridge! we are going to pull away from the committee at - street bridge! we are going to pull away from the committee at this i away from the committee at this moment. we were not expecting that to be played live like that. apologies for that, that is pretty disturbing and in a sense, that is the purpose of this committee, to
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challenge the apps organisers about why this material is freely available on tiktok. it is obviously not a concern unique to tiktok, it's something we have seen in other apps as well. so this is the chief executive's response. ... as well. so this is the chief executive's response. to its users. executive's response. to its users- yes _ executive's response. to its users- yes or — executive's response. to its users. yes or no, _ executive's response. to its users. yes or no, please? - users. yes or no, please? respectfully, if you don't mind, i would just like to start by saying it is devastating to hear about the news of, as a father myself yes, yes. news of, as a father myself yes, es. ., ., news of, as a father myself yes, es. ,, ., , , news of, as a father myself yes, es. , , .. news of, as a father myself yes, es. , , ., , ., yes. so, yes or no? i will repeat the question- — yes. so, yes or no? i will repeat the question. do _ yes. so, yes or no? i will repeat the question. do you _ yes. so, yes or no? i will repeat the question. do you have - yes. so, yes or no? i will repeat the question. do you have full i the question. do you have full responsibility over the algorithms used by— responsibility over the algorithms used by tiktok to prioritise content to its— used by tiktok to prioritise content to its users. — used by tiktok to prioritise content to its users, yes or no? congressmen, we do take these issues very seriously... teri congressmen, we do take these issues very seriously- - -_ congressmen, we do take these issues very seriously. . ._ do - very seriously... yes or no? do nrovide very seriously... yes or no? do provide resources _ very seriously... yes or no? do provide resources for _ very seriously... yes or no? do provide resources for anyone i very seriously... yes or no? do i provide resources for anyone who types in anything that... sir. provide resources for anyone who types in anything that. . .- types in anything that... sir, yes or no? i types in anything that... sir, yes or no? i see _ types in anything that... sir, yes or no? i see you're _ types in anything that... sir, yes or no? i see you're not - types in anything that... sir, yes
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or no? i see you're not willing i types in anything that... sir, yes or no? i see you're not willing to answer— or no? i see you're not willing to answer the — or no? i see you're not willing to answer the question. 0r take any response — answer the question. 0r take any response ability for your parents' company's, the technology and the homes _ company's, the technology and the homes it— company's, the technology and the homes it creates. it isjust very, very— homes it creates. it isjust very, very sad — homes it creates. it isjust very, very sad. very sad. this is why congress — very sad. very sad. this is why congress needs to enact a comprehensive privacy and data security— comprehensive privacy and data security law to give americans more control— security law to give americans more control over — security law to give americans more control over their information and to protect — control over their information and to protect our children. we must save _ to protect our children. we must save our— to protect our children. we must save our children from big tech companies like yours, continue to abuse _ companies like yours, continue to abuse and — companies like yours, continue to abuse and manipulate them for your own gain~ _ abuse and manipulate them for your own gain i— abuse and manipulate them for your own gain. i will yield back, abuse and manipulate them for your own gain. iwill yield back, madam chair~ _ own gain. i will yield back, madam chair. ., , . ,, chair. the gentleman gives back. the chair. the gentleman gives back. the chair recognises _ chair. the gentleman gives back. the chair recognises the _ chair. the gentleman gives back. the chair recognises the lady _ chair. the gentleman gives back. the chair recognises the lady from - chair recognises the lady from florida — chair recognises the lady from florida for— chair recognises the lady from florida for five _ chair recognises the lady from florida for five minutes. - chair recognises the lady from florida for five minutes. thank you, madam chair- _ florida for five minutes. thank you, madam chair. colleagues, - florida for five minutes. thank you, madam chair. colleagues, it - florida for five minutes. thank you, madam chair. colleagues, it is - madam chair. colleagues, it is urgent — madam chair. colleagues, it is urgent that the congress pass an online _ urgent that the congress pass an online data privacy law that protects _ online data privacy law that protects the personal privacy of americans online and particularly
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our kids — americans online and particularly our kids. while this hearing shines a light— our kids. while this hearing shines a light on— our kids. while this hearing shines a light on tiktok, this hearing also should _ a light on tiktok, this hearing also should serve as a call to action for the congress to act now to protect americans— the congress to act now to protect americans from surveillance, tracking. _ americans from surveillance, tracking, personal data gathering and adjective algorithmic operations that serve _ and adjective algorithmic operations that serve up harmful content and has a _ that serve up harmful content and has a corrosive effect on our kids' mental— has a corrosive effect on our kids' mental and — has a corrosive effect on our kids' mental and physical well—being. has a corrosive effect on our kids' mentaland physicalwell—being. for mental and physical well— being. for many— mental and physical well— being. for many years. — mentaland physicalwell—being. for many years, i have sounded the alarm in this— many years, i have sounded the alarm in this committee of how big tech platforms — in this committee of how big tech platforms like tiktok and facebook and instagram incessantly surveilled, track, gather personal, private _ surveilled, track, gather personal, private information and use it along with data _ private information and use it along with data brokers to target and influence — with data brokers to target and influence our behaviour. this is a much _ influence our behaviour. this is a much broader issue than tiktok in china _ much broader issue than tiktok in china there — much broader issue than tiktok in china. there are other malign actors across— china. there are other malign actors across the _ china. there are other malign actors across the world who gather data to use it _ across the world who gather data to use it as _ across the world who gather data to use it as an — across the world who gather data to use it as an element of social
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control— use it as an element of social control and influence peddling and worse _ control and influence peddling and worse. and as i detailed in this committee last year, when he passed the online _ committee last year, when he passed the online privacy law, the harms to children— the online privacy law, the harms to children are — the online privacy law, the harms to children are very serious. and demand — children are very serious. and demand swift action. big tech platforms profit immensely from keeping — platforms profit immensely from keeping children addicted. they do not care _ keeping children addicted. they do not care about the privacy, safety and health— not care about the privacy, safety and health of our kids. they are the modern _ and health of our kids. they are the modern day— and health of our kids. they are the modern day tobacco and cigarette companies. for so long, these companies _ companies. for so long, these companies resisted and misled congress — companies resisted and misled congress and took the congress, it took action— congress and took the congress, it took action by the congress to actually— took action by the congress to actually protect our kids and to outlaw — actually protect our kids and to outlaw smoking by young people. in early 2020, based upon the growing body of _ early 2020, based upon the growing body of evidence to harm of kids online. _ body of evidence to harm of kids online. i— body of evidence to harm of kids online, i introduced the kids privacy— online, i introduced the kids privacy act and the kids act and i
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want _ privacy act and the kids act and i want to— privacy act and the kids act and i want to thank all of the researchers, the young people, the parents. _ researchers, the young people, the parents, the surgeon general of the united _ parents, the surgeon general of the united states, who have explained the correlation between social media usage _ the correlation between social media usage and _ the correlation between social media usage and body dissatisfaction, disordered eating habits, anxiety, depression, self injury, suicide ideation— depression, self injury, suicide ideation and cyber bullying. heck, frances— ideation and cyber bullying. heck, frances haugen, the facebook whistle—blower, was right here and testified _ whistle—blower, was right here and testified to us that facebook and instagram conducted research on this topic. _ instagram conducted research on this topic. they— instagram conducted research on this topic, they knew and understood the harms. _ topic, they knew and understood the harms. but _ topic, they knew and understood the harms, but they continued to elevate profits _ harms, but they continued to elevate profits over _ harms, but they continued to elevate profits over the well— being of children _ profits over the well— being of children. and tiktok does the same. last congress, when we passed the adp pa. _ last congress, when we passed the adp pa, the committee incorporated many— adp pa, the committee incorporated many of— adp pa, the committee incorporated many of these important child online and safety _ many of these important child online and safety provisions from my bills, but we _ and safety provisions from my bills, but we can— and safety provisions from my bills, but we can make v1118th congress's version _ but we can make v1118th congress's version of— but we can make v1118th congress's version of this bill, of this new
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law even— version of this bill, of this new law even more protective of children and i— law even more protective of children and i look— law even more protective of children and i look forward to working with chair— and i look forward to working with chair and — and i look forward to working with chair and the ranking and i look forward to working with chairand the ranking memberto make that happen _ chairand the ranking memberto make that happen. mr chew, tiktok has incredible — that happen. mr chew, tiktok has incredible sway over children in the us. incredible sway over children in the us but _ incredible sway over children in the us but you — incredible sway over children in the us. but you don't have a very good track— us. but you don't have a very good track record — us. but you don't have a very good track record. in 2019, tiktok was hit with— track record. in 2019, tiktok was hit with the — track record. in 2019, tiktok was hit with the largest civil penalty by the — hit with the largest civil penalty by the federal trade commission in a children's— by the federal trade commission in a children's privacy case. four years later. _ children's privacy case. four years later. tiktok— children's privacy case. four years later, tiktok still has not taken sufficient — later, tiktok still has not taken sufficient action to fix the problems. i assume this is because child users— problems. i assume this is because child users are incredibly profitable to your bottom line. sow — profitable to your bottom line. so... ., . profitable to your bottom line. so... ., , ., , ., ., so... that is cathy castro, a democrat — so... that is cathy castro, a democrat for _ so... that is cathy castro, a democrat for florida, - so... that is cathy castro, a - democrat for florida, questioning shou zi chew, the chief executive of tiktok. we will return to that hearing injust tiktok. we will return to that hearing in just a few moments, but let me bring you some of the day's and other news in brief. french president emmanuel macron has defended his decision to push through an unpopular reform
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to the pension system, despite a wave of protests across the country. this is the scene as a protest this morning where demonstrators blocked the road with burning tyres. they said that —— but the protesters were protesting this change any pension law. mass protests are taking place across israel, hours after parliament approved part of the government's plan to reform the judiciary. protesters blocked roads and chanted anti—government slogans, while police used water cannon to try to disperse the rallies in tel aviv. the opposition believes the law was tailored to protect the prime minister benjamin netanyahu from any fallout from his trials for alleged corruption. those are the latest stories from bbc world news. more on our website. do so with us.
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hello, good afternoon. it's still very mild out there, some more sunny spells and showers to come in the forecast and plenty more rainbows to be spotted as well. some very typically springlike weather, it's very changeable and it will stay unsettled as we head through the rest of the week. so more wet and windy weather at times, but also some sunshine and then it will turn colder over the course of the weekend. for the rest of the afternoon there will be widespread showers, also some sunny spells, too. it's a bit drier across much of scotland than we saw yesterday and the winds are lighter, but still some heavy rain across the northern isles and more heavy rain moving towards the south of england by the end of the afternoon, eventually stretching into east anglia. it's blustery with a brisk south—westerly wind,
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especially for south—west facing coasts, still some coastal overtopping here at high tide. the air is mild, temperatures peaking between 12 and 15 celsius, so well above the seasonal average. as we head through this evening and overnight then our area of rain towards the south of england will be pushing its way out of east anglia as we head through the small hours. still some uncertainty as to the northern extent of this rain. there will be a lot of clear skies around, temperatures, though, frost—free between a and 7 celsius and more showers throughout the night across northern ireland and scotland and they'll continue tomorrow morning. the centre of low pressure is across northern ireland so these showers could be really rather slow—moving. elsewhere, the showers will blow along really quite swiftly on the brisk south—westerly wind, possibly the windiest day of the week for england and wales and some of the showers will have some lightning, some thunder and some hail at times. the air is still mild, temperatures will peak between 12 and 1a degrees, but that is about to change as this area of low pressure pours its way out of scotland into the north sea on friday night. we start to draw in more of a northerly wind, allowing that colder arctic air to push southwards, so some
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of the showers could turn out to be a bit wintry, there will be a bit of wind chill. it's a bit of a messy picture on saturday because further south across england and wales there will be fewer showers with lighter winds and the air still is mild here. still is mild here, this rain set to push in on saturday night into sunday morning. also on saturday night into sunday morning, we re—enter british summer time with the clock springing forward by one hour. but it won't feel very summery at all, it's going to feel an awful lot like winter. because as our area of low pressure pours its way eastwards again, it will see the northerly wind become more widespread, some cold air and a widespread frost.
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this is bbc news. i'm shaun ley. the headlines. tiktok�*s chief appears at the us congress, telling a hearing that the company takes concerns over user data and national security "very seriously". who is facing tough questions from democrats and republicans about tiktok�*s relationship with china. the bank of england announces an increase in interest rates for an eleventh consecutive time — following an unexpected jump in inflation the uk inflation rate. how green is the premier league? bbc sport research finds evidence of top flight teams using short—haul domestic flights — rather than more environmentally friendly transport options — to get to and from matches.
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more protests in israel after parliament ratifies a law that would make it more difficult for courts to remove a prime minister deemed unfit for office. england manager gareth southgate insist that recent history is irrelevant and that his squad must show humility as they aim to qualify for euro 202a. the road to the tournament in germany starts tonight and england face familiar opposition, coming up against italy, who beat england in the final of the last european championships. 0ur reporterjane dougal is in naples.
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only the top two in group c will qualify for the euros. they'll be up against northern macedonia and ukraine, as well as others. they will be hoping to be in the top team to qualify. it's a pretty intimidating game, against italy, in naples, and at the diego maradona stadium. england have not beaten italy since 2012, a long time. and when they did that was in a friendly so they do not have the best record against italy. at a press conference yesterday gareth southgate spoke about that record but said now was the time for england to turn that around. it is the type of challenge we have to take on and the type of game we have to start winning, we have not won here since 1961 so that is a bit of history we are trying to break down. is a bit of history we are trying to break down-—
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is a bit of history we are trying to break down. italy didn't qualify for the world cup _ break down. italy didn't qualify for the world cup despite _ the world cup despite having outstanding players and they will have high motivation as well so it is going _ have high motivation as well so it is going to — have high motivation as well so it is going to be a fabulous game. michael— is going to be a fabulous game. michael 0'neill is going to be a fabulous game. michael o'neill is in charge for michael 0'neill is in charge for northern— michael o'neill is in charge for northern ireland in san marino. he was northern ireland in san marino. hg. was in northern ireland in san marino. he: was in charge when they qualified for euro 2016, the one time they have qualified for the tournament. san marino have never won a competitive match and michael 0'neill has urged his squad to embrace the campaign. to o'neill has urged his squad to embrace the campaign. to en'oy the epenenee — embrace the campaign. to en'oy the exemence we fl embrace the campaign. to en'oy the experience, we have t embrace the campaign. to en'oy the experience, we have been h embrace the campaign. to enjoy the experience, we have been togetherl experience, we have been together for a0 odd days over the five caps so we have to make there is the best possible experience we can. if you qualify it always feels good but nonetheless we have to make sure that going forward everyone develops from that and the young players in particular because beyond this campaign they will be the backbone of the campaign.
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jim ratcliffe and the qataris are set to issue new bids to buy manchester united.- set to issue new bids to buy manchester united. other potential investors to — manchester united. other potential investors to bet _ manchester united. other potential investors to bet it _ manchester united. other potential investors to bet it offers _ investors to bet it offers yesterday. the us investment company, elliott, has offered to buy part of the club. european football's governing body uefa has said it will launch an investigation into claims barcelona paid for favourable refereeing decisions. earlier this month a court heard barcelona have been indicted for "corruption", "breach of trust" and "false business records" with prosecutors alleging the catalan club paid over £7 million tojose maria enriquez negreira, who is the former vice—president of spain�*s referees�* committee. the club deny any wrongdoing. ronnie 0�*sullivan is damaging the
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sport with misguided criticisms according to the governing body chair, steve dawkins. in an interview with the sportsman this week ronnie 0�*sullivan said snooker is in the worst place it has ever been and said players are afraid to speak out but in response, dawkins said snooker is bigger than any player and challenged ronnie 0�*sullivan to act more like a role model. and that�*s all the sport for now. i�*ll be back throughout the day here on the bbc news channel. let�*s turn to the uk — where interest rates have gone up again — by a quarter of a percentage point to a.25 per cent. that�*s the 11th successive jump in the cost of borrowing in less than 18 months. the bank of england�*s decision to raise rates again — follows yesterday�*s inflation figures, which were higher than expected. and also the decision by the us federal reserve bank. here�*s our economics correspondent, andy verity. what does this house mean to us? it means everything, basically. it means 20 years of memories, it means watching your kids grow up
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in the same house for 20 years. watching them go off to the school around the corner and coming home every day, watching theirfriends coming in and playing. in cambridge, neil sutton works from home and also cares for his wife, who is seriously ill. but their mortgage bill has gone from £255 at the start of last year, to £1,a60 now. with no way to remortgage at their age to a better deal, he is likely to be forced to sell and move further from the hospital where she�*s treated. it takes your breath away, whenever i see a santander envelope coming through the letterbox. you know, you think, oh, god, not another one. we are just so used to it going up every other month that i am blase to it. you despair quietly inwardly, but i can�*t let that show because you have got to keep things running here and do what you can
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to keep up with it. now, the bank of england has raised its official rate for the 11th time in a row, to a.25%, the highest since 2008, hitting neil and millions like him on variable mortgages. the increase in the official rate by 0.25% means borrowers on a typical tracker mortgage will pay about £2a a month more. those on standard variable rate mortgages face a £15jump. since rates started rising in december 2021, a typical tracker loan has gone up by £39a a month and the typical variable rate by 251. with rates expected to peak soon and then come down, mortgage brokers are adapting their advice to their customers. if you think, like i do, interest rates will stay at the sort of levels we are seeing now, it might be more prudent to take a fixed rate. now you can get some five—year fixes below the a% level, starting with a three, and that is quite a good option for people. after the run on silicon valley
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bank in the us and uk, and the demise of credit suisse, the bank of england acknowledged volatile financial markets, partly caused by rapid rate rises. just a few days ago, the expectations have been that the bank of england would keep rates on hold because of the international financial markets turmoil we have experienced. and then we had the inflation reading which came through higher than expected. so the policymakers are having to balance the domestic inflation risks against the threat that credit growth and loan growth could slow quite dramatically, which would be bad for the economy. the bank of england said it was costing banks more to raise funds on wholesale money markets, something that also happened in the credit crunch of 2007. but it said the uk banking system remained resilient. andy verity is now with us now.
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mortgages only affect under one third of people, who currently have a mortgage. third of people, who currently have a mortgage-— third of people, who currently have a mortgage. about one further buzz rent, two thirds _ a mortgage. about one further buzz rent, two thirds of _ a mortgage. about one further buzz rent, two thirds of us _ a mortgage. about one further buzz rent, two thirds of us own _ a mortgage. about one further buzz rent, two thirds of us own and - a mortgage. about one further buzz rent, two thirds of us own and half. rent, two thirds of us own and half of those have paid off their mortgage or it is very small so the numbers it affects in terms of big movements in mortgage payments is relatively small. lots of people have credit cards and other forms of unsecured debt, and 0.25% up and down were not make a big difference when the differences 18—20% but nevertheless savers are going to see rates rise with these rates will not? there has been pressure on building societies to raise them faster. ~ ., building societies to raise them faster. . ., ., , faster. what about the broader economic impact _ faster. what about the broader economic impact 's _ faster. what about the broader economic impact 's experts - faster. what about the broader i economic impact 's experts have faster. what about the broader - economic impact 's experts have been economic impact �*s experts have been predicting that rates will probably not rise much more than a quarter of 1% then start to fall back but that still leaves price is set at a higher level.— still leaves price is set at a higher level. still leaves price is set at a hiher level. . ., ., , ., higher level. we had got used to su nerlow higher level. we had got used to superlow interest _
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higher level. we had got used to superlow interest rates, - higher level. we had got used to superlow interest rates, a - higher level. we had got used to j superlow interest rates, a legacy higher level. we had got used to i superlow interest rates, a legacy of the financial crisis and the fact that the bank of england did not feel confident to raise rates because growth was so weak for so long. it has raised rates recently because it has got to head off inflation. the markets have thousands of people speculating as to how low interest rates will go, it is called swaps traders in the city, and they are predicting rates may go up to a.5 in the next few months but they also predict that by the end of this year they will be coming down again which is why mortgage brokers say maybe you might want neither a variable or fixed rate, you�*ve got to take your view as to where interest rates will go. what about the other issues the bank is wrestling with? as well as giving the board figure, they also give us an indication of their thinking and what lies behind it.— what lies behind it. there is something _ what lies behind it. there is something quite _ what lies behind it. there is something quite serious - what lies behind it. there is i something quite serious going what lies behind it. there is - something quite serious going on here, it is what happened at silicon valley bank, and at credit suisse,
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which was reeling from the blow of the greensill capital saga which kicked a multi—billion dollar hole in its balance sheet as well as another scandal it lost a huge amount of money on so those points of the financial system which we are already vulnerable are vulnerable to the fact that interest rates have risen because many of them have big investments in government bonds, fixed rate instruments, i could explain the mechanism but when the interest rates go up the bonds go down the price quite sharply and we saw that in the liz truss episode last october. they are worth less, to put it crudely. they can act when interest rates rose as a result of the mini budget some bonds halved in value which had what really happened before. it is value which had what really happened before. . ., value which had what really happened before. , ., , ., before. it is fine to be in negative eiui if before. it is fine to be in negative equity if you _ before. it is fine to be in negative equity if you don't _ before. it is fine to be in negative equity if you don't have _ before. it is fine to be in negative equity if you don't have to - before. it is fine to be in negative equity if you don't have to sell. equity if you don�*t have to sell your house but it is when you have to crystallise the losses.— to crystallise the losses. when you are forced to _ to crystallise the losses. when you are forced to sell, _ to crystallise the losses. when you are forced to sell, as _ to crystallise the losses. when you are forced to sell, as silicon - are forced to sell, as silicon valley bank was, then you realise that those losses at the trouble comes out in your life, and the
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reason that wholesale value costs are going up is because banks are worried about each other a�*s credit so they are worried that if i give you money what happens if i if you go under,, i might charge you a little higher interest rate to secure it, just to ensure myself against the risk that you do not pay me back. that is what happened in the credit crunch and it is happening not yet on the credit crunch they�*ll back the same phenomena is happening so we have to watch out about the other vulnerable points of the financial system are. andy verity, thank you very much. the swedish furniture chain, ikea, has pledged to better protect its uk workforce from sexual harassment — after a complaint by a former member of staff. it�*s the latest major employer to sign an agreement with the uk equality watchdog, following a similar move by mcdonald�*s last month. the watchdog told the bbc that it was rare to take this kind of action. ikea said it did "not tolerate harassment of any kind".
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i�*m joined now byjemima 0lchawski in east london, ceo of the charity, fawcett, which campaigns for gender equality and women�*s rights at work. let�*s talk about this report first of all, if you could. is this becoming more common or is it duty at relatively new mechanisms? the eiuali at relatively new mechanisms? the equality and _ at relatively new mechanisms? iie: equality and human rights commission have used their regulatory powers to investigate with ikea, and have now quoted this legally binding agreement with them. it is good to see them taking those steps. but it is important to look at the wider prevalence of this issue. a0% of women experience sexual harassment at work. we often talk about cases where individuals have reported, but the vast majority of women never report those experiences. a in ten women don�*t report any experiences of sexual harassment. —— eight in
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ten. it is good to see ikea being held accountable but all women deserve to be safe in the workplace so actually what is necessary is much wider reform, and that is why fawcett has been working with wera hobhouse mp on a private members�* bill which would place a duty on employers to take reasonable steps to prevent sexual harassment. what to prevent sexual harassment. what do ou to prevent sexual harassment. what do you think — to prevent sexual harassment. what do you think are _ to prevent sexual harassment. what do you think are the _ to prevent sexual harassment. what do you think are the chances of this approach changing cultures �*s it is approach changing cultures 's it is reall approach changing cultures '5 it 3 really important. as chef to a duty to take reasonable steps to prevent takes responsibility away from individual women bringing a complaint and either raising it with managers through the employment tribunal which is incredibly difficult, arduous and expensive. an overarching dutyjust to difficult, arduous and expensive. an overarching duty just to fulfil their responsibilities. it is a clear indicator of where responsibility lies and that shifts the balance of risk for employers about the steps they need to be
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taken, and we know from our research that people in the workplace want this, so a5% of managers say that they want to get this right, what they want to get this right, what they do not feel they have the right information and knowledge to respond appropriately when complaints are made. we have a full toolkit on our website to help employers respond appropriately and have a good culture that tackle sexual harassment but we cannotjust rely on those who are taking proactive steps, women in every workplace deserve those protections. i am sure that the equality _ deserve those protections. i am sure that the equality and _ deserve those protections. i am sure that the equality and human - deserve those protections. i am sure that the equality and human rights i that the equality and human rights commission would echo that, but i suppose the test of this for mcdonald�*s for which this approach was mentioned last month and now from ikea, is does it change things, and if it doesn�*t, if it does not change them sufficiently quickly, what mechanisms the commission will use or whether there will be much incentive for the commission to do anything else. i do incentive for the commission to do anything else-— incentive for the commission to do
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anything else. i do think we need to look at the resourcing _ anything else. i do think we need to look at the resourcing of _ anything else. i do think we need to look at the resourcing of the - look at the resourcing of the commission and make sure we maximised their powers to enforce and investigate, wherever possible. they are only one organisation and we have a lot of employers in this country. it is important to be aware that the majority of women work with small employers, who are much less likely to be investigated in this way, by the e hrc. i welcome this positive approach from them, and hope they would be able to continue to invest in proper compliance, and it is important to look at what are the levers that they have where those employers do not comply with the plans that have been put in place. mackinacjemima 0lchawski, thank you very much for being with us on bbc news, from the fawcett society. a bbc newsnight investigation has found hundreds of teenagers at risk of homelessness have been placed in adult accommodation — such as hostels. charities say it�*s never appropriate to place 16 or 17—year—olds
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in adult settings without specialist support as they could be exploited. today the government announced it�*s going to ban unregulated accommodation for some children in this age group. that was always one of my favourite photographs of him. from the day he was born ben nelson—roux�*s parents say he was their sunshine. he loved his hats. but by 16 he was a victim of criminal exploitation, was heavily reliant on drugs and alcohol, and had suicidal thoughts. it's really difficult when your child gets to a point that you can't keep them safe, because they won't let you, and he was so much bigger and stronger than me. desperate, kate and barry turned to their local authority who must legally provide accommodation to 16 and 17—year—olds whose family relationships have broken down and risk homelessness. north yorkshire county council told us ben was offered accommodation under section 20 of the children�*s act, which entitled him to a package of support, but they say he declined the offer. his parents argue he wasn�*t
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properly informed. in february 2020, ben moved into this homeless hostel, described as a temporary last resort by his local councils. a lot of the people in there had suffered significant trauma. a lot of the people in there were dealing with serious substance addiction. he was taken by one of them to a crack den. we wanted him in secure accommodation because we thought something seriously bad was going to happen. just two months later, ben was found dead in his room. it was really obvious that it was far too late. when you lose a child the one thing you have is guilt, you know, i feel guilty i wasn�*t there. how often are children like ben put in such adult worlds? newsnight sent a freedom of information request to all 333 councils in england, and based on data from the 276 that
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responded, 53a 16 and 17—year—olds had been placed in adult accommodation without contracted care and support over the past five years, despite government guidance advising against it. and the number of teenagers affected is likely to be even higher, as a third of councils who responded told us they don�*t even collect the data. ben had taken multiple drugs before his death, but his family will never know how he died because a full postmortem wasn�*t carried out, due to covid restrictions. a coroner ruled it can�*t be concluded that ben�*s accommodation contributed to his death, but his family disagree and fear for others like him. he was basically dumped in there because it was the only accommodation they had. there was absolutely nothing additional put in place to make things safer for a child in an adult hostel, nothing.
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an example of the problems are unveiled tonight on newsnight and of course on the bbc iplayer. that report from anna collinson. if you follow any premier league footballers on social media, you�*ve probably seen snapshots and selfies of them travelling to orfrom matches by plane — even for very short trips. an investigation by bbc sport can now reveal how often these types of flights are happening — and what it means for the premier league�*s commitment to being environmentally sustainable. our sports editor dan roan has the details. everton arriving by coach for their match against chelsea at the weekend. but this was just the final step of theirjourney to stamford bridge, having flown to london for the fixture 2a hours earlier, and they�*re far from alone. the bbc�*s uncovered evidence that in just two months there were 81 domestic flights by premier league clubs across just 100 matches, including cup competitions, and that the shortest flight was just 27 minutes.
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0ne top manager admits it�*s an issue the game must now tackle. i think it�*s something we have to do better with, is my personal opinion. that�*s not to say it�*s straightforward, because there�*s factors, but i think it�*s an area we can improve. but it�*s notjust the planes that take teams to fixtures. a positioning flight, as it�*s known, arriving at liverpool airport last week to pick up everton forjust a 35—minute journey south for that game against chelsea, one of 37 such flights, often largely empty, that we found evidence of in the two—month window. premier league teams taking short domestic flights like this one to and from matches, despite it being worse for the environment than travelling by road or rail, has raised serious questions overjust how committed the top of the sport truly is to sustainability. last weekend, a positioning flight came all the way from inverness to take bournemouth to birmingham
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for a match against aston villa, the plane going on empty to liverpool. the next day, another positioning flight from aberdeen picked the team up and took them home before returning back to scotland. league one forest green rovers are known as the country�*s most sustainable club and its owner told me he was dismayed by ourfindings. i think it�*s shocking data injust two months. it�*s an illusion to think there is a gain for a flight of that duration. you know, modern coaches are very comfortable and aren�*t going to impair the performance of a player over that relatively short distance. the carbon impact is one thing and it might not be the biggest thing, but the optics, you�*ve got premier league teams setting a very bad example for the rest of the country. the fa says it�*s the responsibility of each club to make their own travel choices and some in the game point out these flights make up a small proportion of domestic air travel. in a statement, the premier league said it recognises the need to take action on climate change and is committed to reducing its overall climate impact. this includes aims to achieve net zero emissions by 20a0. so what did these fans at stamford
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bridge feel about the issue? the plane�*s just easier, isn�*t it? you know, the train, sometimes trains get cancelled much more than planes, and then people get piled on. if climate change is a big topic for people, then they should be trying to set an example like lots of other organisations in the world. a generation ago it was all very different. what's the theory then behind hiring a plane to fly— bournemouth to an away match? it's a bit extravagant. _ yeah, it�*s only a one—off, though, tony. but these days, with more money and more matches in football than ever, persuading top clubs to remain grounded could be a challenge. dan roan, bbc news. a senior wealthy nigerian politician and his wife have been found guilty of plotting to traffick a 21—year—old man to the uk so he could be exploited for his kidney. a medical middleman was also found guilty. prosecutors said the organ was to be removed and given to the couple�*s 25—year—old daughter — though she was cleared of the same charge. the metropolitan police this afternoon commended the victim for speaking out.
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this is the first edition of its kind in the uk. we could not have achieved this without the courage of one person, are victims of iro. i want to commend him for his bravery in speaking out. the metropolitan police service is committed to tackling exploitation in all forms. we can only succeed by working with partners in the uk and overseas. i would like to thank our colleagues in the crown prosecution service, the human tissue authority and other partners, have worked so hard to help achieve this conviction today. we do understand the challenges, as no place is the same. specialist officers from the met�*s modern slavery and exploitation teams understand this and we will make sure that victims are signposted and safeguarded, with the help of partners. modern slavery is all around us. we need the public�*s help in identifying potential victims of
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trafficking and exploitation to bring offenders to justice and to protect the vulnerable. access to nature should be a human right, according to a group of 100 uk citizens who are publishing a "people�*s plan" for restoring nature. they�*re calling for urgent action on everything from restoring the health of rivers and wetlands, to food hubs for locally—grown food. 0ur science correspondent, helen briggs, met one of the people taking part. come down here and just sort of escape it all... rebecca has been visiting the fields near her 0xfordshire home since she was a child. growing up with nature on my doorstep, we�*ve always enjoyed being in and around it and it does need to be protected. it�*s really scary to think what the children of today are going to grow up in. so when she was randomly selected to be part of the people�*s plan for nature, she jumped at the chance. the plan goes across lots of different things. it�*s everyone�*s responsibility to
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get involved and and take part, make those little changes. at this hotel in birmingham, 100 people from across the uk have been meeting over the past year to share ideas and devise their own plan for bringing wildlife back from the brink. and they�*re calling for a complete overhaul in the way we treat nature, from the food we eat and how we use the land to tougher action on preventing pollution. here at the university of reading, scientists have been monitoring declines in plants and animals on home soilfor decades, and they say nature�*s in a lamentable state. despite the number of plans that we've had, the government haven't met targets for restoring nature. there are 70,000 species in the uk — from fungi, plants, insects and mammals — and around 2/5 of those are in decline. a people's plan for nature is really important because it allows civil society and business and government to work together towards a shared goal.
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what�*s the main message from ordinary people about what we need to be doing to restore nature? just any little change, you can help and do, do it, i think would be it. it�*s no change is too small. 0ur islands are known for their natural wonders, from bluebells to butterflies and badgers, but experts say reversing decades of devastating losses will involve efforts from every one of us, on a scale we�*ve never seen before. helen briggs, bbc news in the thames valley. now it�*s time for a look at the weather with elizabeth rizzini. good afternoon. plenty more sunny spells and showers to come in the forecast with more rainbows to be spotted out there, i suspect. remaining unsubtle to the rest of the week, with some sunshine at
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times, mild at the moment but turning colder over the weekend. for the rest of this afternoon, widespread sunny spells and showers for much of the uk but it is drier across scotland than yesterday. heavy rain for the northern isles, rain to the south of england reaching east anglia by the end of the day. blustery with a brisk south—westerly blowing to south—west facing curse against some coastal overtopping possible at high tide. temperatures again mild for the time of year peaking between 12—15 celsius. this area of rain to the south will clear as we head into the small hours, with some uncertainty as to the noni northern extent of it but still some showers across northern ireland and scotland, and a frost free start to friday.
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this is bbc news — welcome if you�*re watching here in the uk or around the globe. i�*m shaun ley. our top stories... the us congress puts the chinese social media app tiktok in the spotlight. the chief executive giving evidence before congress on thursday, asking if it can be trusted not to spy for beijing? all protected us data will be under the protection of us law. this eliminates the concern some of you have shared with me that tiktok user data can be subject to chinese law. we�*ll have the very latest from washington on the arguments for and against the hugely popular social media app. also this hour... clashes across plans to reform israel�*s judiciary continue
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into a 12th week. protestors say they give the government too much power. also ahead — the flying footballers — the bbc has investigated how often premier league teams take planes to and from matches and what that means for the environment. hello, if you havejustjoined us, welcome to bbc news. we start in the us, where the head of the social media app tiktok has been giving evidence to congress over security concerns. shou zi chew is facing a barrage of questions on tiktok�*s relationship with the chinese state, what data it collects and what it does with it.
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his dress that it was a singapore —based company and not china owned —— he stressed. republican cathy mcmorris rodgers is chairing the hearing, and she stood firm on the possibility of a nationwide us ban. i expect today you will say anything to avoid this outcome, like you are, "100% responsible" for what tiktok does, that you suddenly endorse a national data privacy standard, that project texas is more than a marketing scheme, that tiktok doesn�*t harm our innocent children. or that your ties to the chinese communist party through bytedance isjust a myth. we are not buying it. the response from ceo shou zi chew was polite but defiant.
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he seemed to want to distance both himself and tiktok from any connection to china and its government. us tiktok data is stored by default in oracle servers. only vetted personnel operating in a new company called tiktok us data security can control access to this data. additionally, we have plans for this company to report to an independent american board with strong security credentials. now, there is still some work to do. we have legacy us data sitting on our servers in virginia and singapore. we are deleting those and we expect that to be complete this year. when that is done, all us data will be under the protection of us law and under the control of the us—led security team. this eliminates the concern that some of you have shared with me that tiktok user data can be subject to chinese law. this goes further, by the way, than what any other company in our industry has done. we also provide unprecedented transparency and security for the source code for the tiktok app and recommendation engine. third party validators like oracle and others will review and validate our source code and algorithms. this will help ensure the integrity of the code that powers what americans see on our app.
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we will further provide access to researchers, which helps them study and monitor our content ecosystem. we believe we are the only, the only company that offers this level of transparency. that is shou zi chew, the chief executive talking live there of tiktok during the course of the last couple of hours. the hearing are still continuing and will continue for some time yet. i�*m joined now by wasim khaled, a disinformation and risk intelligence expert, and ceo of risk intelligence platform blackbird.ai. i don�*t know how much of the hearing you have been able to follow, but in terms of the concerns expressed about how tiktok operates, are the legitimate ones? you about how tiktok operates, are the legitimate ones?— about how tiktok operates, are the legitimate ones? you know, there are many reasons — legitimate ones? you know, there are many reasons why _ legitimate ones? you know, there are
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many reasons why there _ legitimate ones? you know, there are many reasons why there are _ legitimate ones? you know, there are many reasons why there are so - legitimate ones? you know, there are many reasons why there are so many| many reasons why there are so many fears over the platform. i think verse it is important to say that many of these fears are not isolated to just tiktok but all social media platforms. concerns around the influence on american youth, the app is immensely popular amongst young people in the us which has led to concerns about the impact that it might have on mental health, wellbeing, the privacy of its users. in today�*s earrings, it was a key opening theme. there were accusations of promoting potentially harmful content, dangerous challenges, or self—harm. harmful content, dangerous challenges, orself—harm. 0f harmful content, dangerous challenges, orself—harm. of course there is also disinformation, propaganda. the platform, like all platforms, is acceptable to the spread of misinformation by malicious actors, the algorithm can contribute to the rapid dissemination of misleading information. and of course there are data privacy and security because tiktokers owned by, or was founded by a chinese company bytedance. they have been accused of potentially electing and sharing the user data
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with the ccp, the chinese government, and the reason it is a concern today and at the last few years is that there is 150 million american users that are on the platform and tiktokers not like other platforms. its parent company bytedance has executives which have ties to the chinese communist party and it is the only social media platform that is this popular that belongs to a geopolitical arrival of the us. that is where billy the fears are focused on the most. the committee — fears are focused on the most. the committee hearing itself hasjust broken up —— that is aware really the fears are focused on at the most. it isjust the fears are focused on at the most. it is just after one o�*clock... what are my thing, it is late morning, so maybe a coffee break. this hearing is a full hearing, it ratherfeels
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break. this hearing is a full hearing, it rather feels as if it is an inquisition as much as an investigation as he is the only witness. you know, it very much can come off that way, i think. i think much of it and the audience which is being today may not really understand to what level the ccp uses technology and technology platforms to shape or eliminate narratives that benefit them politically and economically. this has been well _ politically and economically. ii 3 has been well documented with the great firewall of china, as it is called, that blocks american social media platforms and you can imagine us congress members and others who are for, say, the ban of tiktok, which i think is a separate argument, whether one should be banning platforms, but the real discussion is they are adversarial because it is popular amongst children in the us and that while the chinese government doesn�*t
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control tiktok on paper, if there was any potential that dominant narratives, storylines that have so many mines looking at their up all the time, if an adversarial nation could control that narrative at a national level, especially with what has been happening with the russian propaganda in years past, they are aggressive because frankly in some ways they need to be. there are some real concerns that are founded here because in any other form of propaganda on social media platforms in the past let�*s say russian propaganda, they don�*t control the platform. they have to try pretty hard to try to dominate a certain part of the narrative, they have to do work. here, there is at least the perception that the ccp could tell tiktok to turn a dial during a moment of geopolitical tension and
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across a platform be able to shape that narrative and promote friendly narratives, demote unfriendly narratives, demote unfriendly narratives, things of that nature. watson callard, an expert on this information. —— wasim khaled. we will bring you more if we get more from washington. the commander of ukraine�*s ground troops claims russian forces trying to capture the besieged eastern city of bakhmut are taking considerable losses and running out of steam. our correspondent quentin sommerville, and camera operator darren conway, have been to the front line where some of the fiercest fighting of the war has taken place. explosion. this is dima�*s daily duty. for months, the first separate tank brigade have been
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under russian attack, but they�*ve barely given the enemy an inch of ukrainian soil. this way. come on. run, run, run. straight to me. open ground here is the enemy�*s friend. come on. this way. there are spotter drones above. russian eyes are always watching. down, down, down, down. ..waiting for movement. get in. get down. that is two russian shells thatjust come in. i think it�*s tank fire. i think very close to these positions. it gives you an idea of how exposed it is here. there�*s absolutely no tree cover. the safest place for these men is in the trenches. they�*ve already taken a couple of casualties here in the last week. he pants. you all right? yeah?
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keep down. the bombardments never stop. explosion quentin sommerville and his camera operator darren conway with ukrainian troops on the front line — and you can see their full report on tonight�*s six o�*clock news here on bbc one. and afterwards on the bbc iplayer. a senior wealthy nigerian politician, his wife and a medical "middleman" have been found guilty of an organ—trafficking plot, which saw them bring a 21—year—old man to the uk from lagos for his kidney. prosecutors told the old bailey the organ was to be removed and given to the couple�*s daughter. she was cleared of the same charge. here�*s our home affairs correspondent, tom symonds. a young nigerian man walks into a west london police station with a remarkable story. he�*s run away because people
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want to take his kidney. weeks before, daniel — not his real name — had been selling mobile phone accessories in the markets of lagos. at the other end of the nigerian social scale, ike ekweremadu, a powerful senator, and his wife, beatrice. their daughter, sonia, has a debilitating kidney condition. she needs a transplant. for help, ekweremadu turned to this man, dr obinna obeta... i'm fine, i'm ok. ..who�*d posted his own transplant on facebook afterfinding a young nigerian donor. obeta suggested his donor�*s friend, daniel. in lagos, the young market trader was told to get some tests. he thought a wealthy man was helping him travel to britain for a better life. the impression that i have is that he was told that there would be some form of employment for him in a manner, some form of assistance. was he told that he would be
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required to give a kidney? my understanding is that that was never a subject of discussion. he flew to britain, there was nojob. while waiting for meetings with doctors, he slept on a sofa at a flat where dr obeta lived here in south london and he was taken for lunch at this restaurant — and there was a reason for that. sonia ekweremadu was there and her picture was taken with daniel. while she was acquitted, the court heard her parents and obeta were falsely claiming daniel and sonia were cousins. when daniel met a kidney specialist here at the royal free in london, he says he suddenly realised the real reason he was in britain. the doctor called a halt to the transplant. this kidney trafficking expert says all donors need to have an emotional connection with the recipient, or be a family member. for individuals that come over, we would assume that they�*ve come for a particular purpose and they�*ve
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given consent and they are willing to engage in that process, so clearly at some point that alarm bell will ring that this is not a valid consent and this person is under duress. sonia ekweremadu�*s transplant never happened but obinna obeta�*s did at the royal free, and a key figure in both cases was an nhs doctor from cambridgeshire. chris agbo runs a side business helping foreign patients get treatment in britain. dr agbo... the court heard he even examined daniel at the flat in south london. i wonder if i could ask you some questions about the role you played in arranging or helping to arrange the donor. so did he know the young donor was being exploited? did you see the donor yourself? any idea why he ended up in this country without realising why he was here? no answers. he is being investigated by the police and general medical council. this unusual case demonstrates what can happen when seriously ill patients are desperate for a cure.
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tom symonds, bbc news. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is travelling to the uk for talks on trade and security. he leaves amid unprecedented political turmoil, with protests taking place for a twelfth consecutive week against his government�*s plans forjudicial reform. it also comes as fears grow of worsening violence in israel and the occupied palestinian territories. here�*s our middle east correspondent tom bateman. car horns beep drumming protestors shout israelis are stopping the traffic over their politicians�* plan to overhaul their courts. weeks of protest are boiling over into bitter division. car horns beep protestors shout this is a fight for the flag. and now it�*s spilling blood onto the streets of tel aviv. he sprayed us with mace. and then i tried to stop him and he
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hit me with the can on the face. how does this make you feel about all of this, what is happening in your country? we have a dictator in israel that is trying to make these people hurt us. you tell your government, you tell your people. the demonstrators had reached the british embassy last week, wanting foreign governments to add pressure as mr netanyahu heads abroad, visiting london today. muzzling of legal protections by the new coalition of the ultra religious and the far right. this government is the first post—zionist, messianic government. my father and his brothers didn't fight in wars for a theocracy for orthodox jews. the israeli leader is caught between deepening dissent and a coalition he needs to survive. and he is vowing to push on.
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translation: we will not accept anarchy. . there are those who are calling for blocking the highways, for military refusal, for blood in the streets and to attack public figures. we will not accept this. we will not accept violence by any side. but his far right and religious coalition is under growing international pressure over both its rhetoric and its policies, amid spiralling violence. in the west bank, the protests feel a world away. for palestinians, the faces of israel�*s forces may change, but the occupation remains. and things are getting much worse. for people here, it feels like a crisis arriving from all sides. israel�*s most extreme government in its history, a palestinian leadership losing its limited security grip on key cities around here.
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and that is why the fears are growing that the west bank could slip out of control. this was the scene of a palestinian gun attack that killed two israelis in the town... ..before israeli settlers went on a rampage, attacking homes, like here, at the front door of this woman. her home still bears the scars and she tells me no—one protects them. translation: we are suffering all the time. | settlers descend from the mountain, burn olive trees and attack homes. i am afraid that they will occupy hawara because of our strategic location on the main road. for over a year, i have seen militants re—arm in nearbyjenin and nablus, as violence grips this region. israel�*s political turmoil comes amid calls for calm that may be impossible to heed. tom bateman, bbc news, jerusalem.
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if you follow any premier league footballers on social media, you�*ve probably seen snapshots and selfies of them travelling to or from matches by plane . an investigation by bbc sport can now reveal how often these types of flights are happening — and what it means for the premier league�*s commitment to being environmentally sustainable. is that hollow? our sports editor dan roan has the details. everton arriving by coach for their match against chelsea at the weekend. but this was just the final step of theirjourney to stamford bridge, having flown to london for the fixture 2a hours earlier, and they�*re far from alone. the bbc�*s uncovered evidence that in just two months there were 81 domestic flights by premier league clubs across just 100 matches, including cup competitions, and that the shortest flight was just 27 minutes. one top manager admits it�*s an issue the game must now tackle. i think it�*s something we have to do better with,
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is my personal opinion. that�*s not to say it�*s straightforward, because there�*s factors, but i think it�*s an area we can improve. but it�*s notjust the planes that take teams to fixtures. a positioning flight, as it�*s known, arriving at liverpool airport last week to pick up everton forjust a 35—minute journey south for that game against chelsea, one of 37 such flights, often largely empty, that we found evidence of in the two—month window. premier league teams taking short domestic flights like this one to and from matches, despite it being worse for the environment than travelling by road or rail, has raised serious questions overjust how committed the top of the sport truly is to sustainability. last weekend, a positioning flight came all the way from inverness to take bournemouth to birmingham for a match against aston villa, the plane going on empty to liverpool. the next day, another positioning flight from aberdeen picked the team up and took them home before returning back to scotland. league one forest green rovers
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are known as the country�*s most sustainable club and its owner told me he was dismayed by ourfindings. i think it�*s shocking data injust two months. it�*s an illusion to think there is a gain for a flight of that duration. you know, modern coaches are very comfortable and aren�*t going to impair the performance of a player over that relatively short distance. the carbon impact is one thing and it might not be the biggest thing, but the optics, you�*ve got premier league teams setting a very bad example for the rest of the country. the fa says it�*s the responsibility of each club to make their own travel choices and some in the game point out these flights make up a small proportion of domestic air travel. in a statement, the premier league said it recognises the need to take action on climate change and is committed to reducing its overall climate impact. this includes aims to achieve net zero emissions by 20a0. so what did these fans at stamford bridge feel about the issue? the plane�*s just easier, isn�*t it? you know, the train, sometimes trains get cancelled much more than planes, and then people get piled on. if climate change is a big topic for people, then they should be
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trying to set an example like lots of other organisations in the world. a generation ago it was all very different. what's the theory, then, i behind hiring a plane to fly bournemouth to an away match? it's a bit extravagant. yeah, it�*s only a one—off, though, tony. but these days, with more money and more matches in football than ever, persuading top clubs to remain grounded could be a challenge. dan roan, bbc news. and danjoins me now. they are fascinating findings. i suppose the question is what happens next, if anything? suppose the question is what happens next, ifanything? i suppose the question is what happens next. if anything?— next, if anything? i think there will be, next, if anything? i think there will be. as _ next, if anything? i think there will be. as a — next, if anything? i think there will be, as a result _ next, if anything? i think there will be, as a result of - next, if anything? i think there will be, as a result of this, - will be, as a result of this, renewed pressure on the fa and premier league perhaps as well to perhaps come up with some recommendations, for example tell clubs that they should not or cannot travel by airline of their distance travelling to an away fixture is less than a certain number of miles, 100 for example. there is a lot of sympathy, there has to be said, for
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clubs given the pressure on the fixture calendar. there is huge congestion, more matches being played than ever before and for the top players with more matches, a bigger world cup than ever in three years�* time, you can understand why these clubs are looking to take players to away matches by the plane to try to maximise comfort and convenience and look for those performance marginal gains that could, in the final reckoning, being the difference between staying in the difference between staying in the premier league are being relegated. on the other hand, i think there is a lot of concern that because of the profile of these clubs, it may set a poor example, but it raises questions over how committed some of these clubs are to sustainability. i think it depends on whether the club is in the country, newcastle united and the north, bournemouth on the south coast, they have more knees than ——
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reason to need to want to travel than those in other areas of the country built up its an interesting debate but one that fit below have to address increasingly. what debate but one that fit below have to address increasingly. what about an argument _ to address increasingly. what about an argument that _ to address increasingly. what about an argument that those _ to address increasingly. what about an argument that those involved - to address increasingly. what about an argument that those involved in | an argument that those involved in bookings might say, we do not rely on scheduled flights because we can�*t rely on those. some of these questions you drew attention to, perfectly legitimate about the position, it may be because of the planes are based in one place because of other customers have other flights to do for commercial reasons, and the football teams frankly aren�*t paying enough to get at the sole use of those planes? i�*m at the sole use of those planes? i'm sure there at the sole use of those planes? i“n sure there is some merit in that argument. yes, the other hand, and many would look at the unprecedented amounts of money swishing around at the football industry right now. when you consider the amount of money spent on players and transfer windows, record salaries, record agents�* fees, they may say why can�*t you afford to have your own private jet? and that would therefore mean you would not have to have these positioning flights, the so—called
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ghost lights as the industry knows them which are largely often entirely empty —— these are so—called ghost flights. and the emissions these flights result in. flying does have a larger impact than travelling by road or rail, so i think it is something the premier league will have to look at. the fa have said ultimately is up to the club to decide. they can�*t dictate terms. it is for them to decide their own travel arrangements, but when you look at certain organisations, bbc sport included, it has brought in a no domestic flights policy a couple of years ago and other companies and organisations around the world, so it will not be a surprise if the premier league comes under the same pressure. premier league comes under the same aressure. . ~' premier league comes under the same aressure. . ~ , :, y premier league comes under the same aressure. . ~ ,, y : pressure. thank you very much, dan roan. we pressure. thank you very much, dan roan- we will _ pressure. thank you very much, dan roan. we will end _ pressure. thank you very much, dan roan. we will end with _ pressure. thank you very much, dan roan. we will end with some - pressure. thank you very much, dan roan. we will end with some live . roan. we will end with some live pictures of that inquiry of shou zi chew, the chief executive of tiktok,
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the social media at, is taking place. you�*re watching bbc news. hello, good afternoon. it�*s still very mild out there. some more sunny spells and showers to come in the forecast and plenty more rainbows to be spotted as well. some very typically spring—like weather. it�*s very changeable and it will stay unsettled as we head through the rest of the week. so more wet and windy weather at times, but also some sunshine. and then it will turn colder over the course of the weekend. for the rest of the afternoon, there�*ll be some widespread showers, also some sunny spells, too. it�*s a bit drier across much of scotland than we saw yesterday. and the winds are lighter, but still some heavy rain across the northern isles and more heavy rain moving towards the south of england by the end of the afternoon, eventually stretching into east anglia. it�*s blustery with a brisk south—westerly wind, especially for southwest—facing coasts.
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still some coastal overtopping here at high tide and the air is mild. temperatures peaking between 12 and 15 degrees celsius. so well above the seasonal average. now, as we head through this evening and overnight, then our area of rain towards the south of england will be pushing its way out of east anglia as we head through the small hours. still some uncertainty to the northern extent of this rain. there will be a lot of closed skies around temperatures, though, frost—free between four and seven degrees celsius. some more showers throughout the night across northern ireland and scotland and they�*ll continue tomorrow morning. the centre of low pressure is across northern ireland, so these showers could be really rather slow—moving. but elsewhere the showers will blow along really quite swiftly on that brisk south—westerly wind, possibly the windiest day of the week for england and wales. and some of the showers will have some lightning, some thunder and some hail at times. the air is still mild. temperatures will peak between 12 and 1a degrees. but that is about to change as this area of low pressure pours its way out of scotland into the north sea on friday night, we will start to draw in more
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of a northerly wind, allowing that colder arctic air to push southwards. so some of these showers could turn out to be a bit wintry. there will be some wind chill. it�*s a bit of a messy picture on saturday because further south across england and wales, there�*ll be fewer showers with lighter winds and the air still is mild here with this rain set to push in on saturday night into sunday morning. also on saturday night into sunday morning, we re—enter british summer time with the clocks springing forward by one hour, but it won�*t feel very summery at all. in fact, it�*s going to feel an awful lot more like winter, because as our area of low pressure pulls its way eastwards again, we�*ll see the northerly wind become more widespread, some cold air and a widespread frost.
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this is bbc news — welcome if you�*re watching in the uk or around the globe. i�*m shaun ley. our top stories. lawmakers in the us question the ceo of video—sharing app tiktok, amid growing calls in a number of countries for it to be banned over concerns around user data and national security. the uk government has banned the app from all official phones. clashes continue for a twelth consecutive week in israel against the government�*s plans to limit the power of the judiciary. protestors say it will give the goverment — and prime minister benjamin netanyahu — too much power. the bank of england announces an increase in interest rates
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for an eleventh consecutive time, from a% to a.25%. and the flying footballers — the bbc has investigated how often premier league teams take planes to and from matches, and the impact the use of short—haul flights has on the environment. hello and welcome to bbc news. we are expecting a news conference from the world athletics governing body chaired by sebastian kerk and we will bring you that as soon as we get it because they will make an important announcement on transgender athletes and whether tra nsgender athletes and whether they transgender athletes and whether they can take part in events designed for women. before that we will rejoin the committee hearing,
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this is a congresswoman from michigan questioning the chief executive of tiktok, and they are discussing with chew shou zi whether or not that will be something that should be changed, its approach to the security of the date of its users. let�*s hear what he has to say. users. let's hear what he has to sa . , users. let's hear what he has to sa. . ~ users. let's hear what he has to sa. , ~ , say. does tiktok still use inferences _ say. does tiktok still use inferences that _ say. does tiktok still use inferences that were - say. does tiktok still use | inferences that were made say. does tiktok still use - inferences that were made in part say. does tiktok still use _ inferences that were made in part or inferences that were made in part or in all precise gps information collected from us users? would you re neat that collected from us users? would you repeat that 's _ collected from us users? would you repeat that 's does _ collected from us users? would you repeat that 's does tiktok _ collected from us users? would you repeat that 's does tiktok use - repeat that 's does tiktok use inferences _ repeat that 's does tiktok use inferences you _ repeat that 's does tiktok use inferences you gave _ repeat that 's does tiktok use inferences you gave made - repeat that 's does tiktok use i inferences you gave made using repeat that 's does tiktok use - inferences you gave made using an part or in whole, precise aps information collected from us users �*s information collected from us users 's that would be a very technical ruestion 's that would be a very technical question that — 's that would be a very technical question that i _ 's that would be a very technical question that i would _ 's that would be a very technical question that i would have - 's that would be a very technical question that i would have to i 's that would be a very technical i question that i would have to check and get _ question that i would have to check and get back to you. has question that i would have to check and get back to you.— and get back to you. has tiktok at and get back to you. has tiktok at
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an time and get back to you. has tiktok at any time persuaded _ and get back to you. has tiktok at any time persuaded chinese i any time persuaded chinese government with precise gps information or inferences made from that data? . information or inferences made from that data? :, .., information or inferences made from that data? :, :., , ., information or inferences made from that data? :, .. , ., ., that data? that i can give you a straiiht that data? that i can give you a straight no- _ that data? that i can give you a straight no. even _ that data? that i can give you a straight no. even if— that data? that i can give you a straight no. even if congress i that data? that i can give you a i straight no. even if congress were to be on tiktok— straight no. even if congress were to be on tiktok i'm _ straight no. even if congress were to be on tiktok i'm concerned i straight no. even if congress were | to be on tiktok i'm concerned that to be on tiktok i�*m concerned that china or others would still have access to us consumer data by purchasing it through data brokers. will you commit not to sell any of tiktok�*s data to data brokers now or in the future? igiigfe tiktok's data to data brokers now or in the future?— tiktok's data to data brokers now or in the future? we do not do that, we do not in the future? we do not do that, we do riot sell — in the future? we do not do that, we do not sell data _ in the future? we do not do that, we do not sell data to _ in the future? we do not do that, we do not sell data to data _ in the future? we do not do that, we do not sell data to data brokers i do not sell data to data brokers now _ do not sell data to data brokers now. ~ , :, ::, do not sell data to data brokers now. ~ i. _, :, :, do not sell data to data brokers now. ~ :, :, :, now. will you commit to not do it in the future? — now. will you commit to not do it in the future? there _ now. will you commit to not do it in the future? there are _ now. will you commit to not do it in the future? there are certain - the future? there are certain members — the future? there are certain members of _ the future? there are certain members of the _ the future? there are certain members of the industry i the future? there are certain members of the industry you j the future? there are certain i members of the industry you do the future? there are certain - members of the industry you do this and i— members of the industry you do this and i think— members of the industry you do this and i think there has to be broad legislation— and i think there has to be broad legislation to help the whole industry address this problem. | industry address this problem. i think industry address this problem. think i am industry address this problem. i think i am out of time, thank you, madam chair. the think i am out of time, thank you, madam chair-— madam chair. the chair yields five minutes to _ madam chair. the chair yields five minutes to the _ madam chair. the chair yields five minutes to the gentleman - madam chair. the chair yields five minutes to the gentleman from i minutes to the gentleman from alabama. —
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minutes to the gentleman from alabama. mr— minutes to the gentleman from alabama, mr palmer. - minutes to the gentleman from alabama, mr palmer.— minutes to the gentleman from alabama, mr palmer. ~ . alabama, mr palmer. when the chinese communist government _ alabama, mr palmer. when the chinese communist government bought - alabama, mr palmer. when the chinese communist government bought a - alabama, mr palmer. when the chinese communist government bought a share | communist government bought a share and bytedance, it has been described as its way of gaining control, and companies have a choice in selling a stake to the government, and when the chinese government moved to buy shares in bytedance, will you inform beforehand, yes or no? congressmen, iiaytedance-u — beforehand, yes or no? congressmen, bytedance. .. what _ beforehand, yes or no? congressmen, bytedance. .. what you _ beforehand, yes or no? congressmen, bytedance. .. what you or _ beforehand, yes or no? congressmen, bytedance. .. what you or anyone i beforehand, yes or no? congressmen, | bytedance. .. what you or anyone from tiktok asked — bytedance. .. what you or anyone from tiktok asked your _ bytedance. .. what you or anyone from tiktok asked your opinion _ bytedance. .. what you or anyone from tiktok asked your opinion on _ bytedance. .. what you or anyone from tiktok asked your opinion on the i tiktok asked your opinion on the sale of shares in bytedance to the chinese communist government �*s this chinese communist government 's this hasn't chinese communist government '5 this hasn't happened. chinese communist government 's this hasn't happened. did _ chinese communist government 's this hasn't happened. did you _ chinese communist government 's this hasn't happened. did you or— chinese communist government 's this hasn't happened. did you or anyone i hasn't happened. did you or anyone em-lo ed hasn't happened. did you or anyone employed or— hasn't happened. did you or anyone employed or affiliated _ hasn't happened. did you or anyone employed or affiliated with - hasn't happened. did you or anyone employed or affiliated with tiktok i employed or affiliated with tiktok say anything about this today chinese communist government, about using a platform for conducting misinformation campaigns or restrictions so that nothing is
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posted that reflects badly on the chinese communist government or for surveillance and data collection for use against anyone, did any of you or anyone affiliated with tiktok raise any concerns about that �*s congressmen, we do not collect... i did congressmen, we do not collect... did not ask congressmen, we do not collect... i did not ask you that, did you raise any concerns about it, because that is why we are here. ipiigfe any concerns about it, because that is why we are here.— is why we are here. we do not promote _ is why we are here. we do not promote or— is why we are here. we do not promote or remove... - is why we are here. we do not promote or remove... to i is why we are here. we do not - promote or remove. .. to communicate promote or remove... to communicate in any form _ promote or remove. .. to communicate in any form or— promote or remove... to communicate in any form or fashion _ promote or remove... to communicate in any form or fashion with _ promote or remove... to communicate in any form or fashion with the - in any form or fashion with the directors of bytedance that there might be concerns about government control over content, yes or no? you either you didn't. l control over content, yes or no? you either you didn't.— either you didn't. i 'ust want to make this h either you didn't. i 'ust want to make this clear, _ either you didn't. i just want to make this clear, we _ either you didn't. i just want to make this clear, we do - either you didn't. i just want to make this clear, we do not - either you didn't. i just want to - make this clear, we do not remove or promote _ make this clear, we do not remove or promote content at the request of the chinese government. it promote content at the request of the chinese government.- promote content at the request of the chinese government. it even gets down to the — the chinese government. it even gets down to the hours _ the chinese government. it even gets down to the hours that _ the chinese government. it even gets down to the hours that they _ the chinese government. it even gets down to the hours that they worked. l down to the hours that they worked. so, obviously you didn't say anything. there is a serious concern
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chinese companies, about doing anything against what the chinese communist government want, i want to ask you this, is tiktok screened against malicious content from child predators, yes or no? yes. against malicious content from child predators, yes or no?— against malicious content from child predators, yes or no? yes, we do... drug cartels — predators, yes or no? yes, we do... drug cartels was _ predators, yes or no? yes, we do... drug cartels was india _ predators, yes or no? yes, we do... drug cartels was india cut _ predators, yes or no? yes, we do... drug cartels was india cut tiles, - drug cartels was india cut tiles, child content... drug cartel was engaged in a police chase with the spanish authorities and they posted it on tiktok and got over a million views, why wasn't that taking down? would you have done it with traffickers or terrorist 's do you withhold content from nations that might be committing crimes against humanity? might be committing crimes against humani ? ., , , ., might be committing crimes against humani ? ., ,, ., , ., ., humanity? congressmen, a platform has freedom — humanity? congressmen, a platform has freedom of _ humanity? congressmen, a platform has freedom of expression... - humanity? congressmen, a platform has freedom of expression... you i has freedom of expression... you talk about — has freedom of expression... you talk about that, _ has freedom of expression... you talk about that, yes _ has freedom of expression... wm. talk about that, yes or no, do you screen against content from nations that commit crimes against humanity?
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hour user's... yes that commit crimes against humanity? hour user's- - -— hour user's. .. yes or no, yes or no? michael beckham, _ hour user's. .. yes or no, yes or no? michael beckham, your _ hour user's. .. yes or no, yes or no? michael beckham, your vice - hour user's. .. yes or no, yes or no? | michael beckham, your vice president and head _ michael beckham, your vice president and head of— michael beckham, your vice president and head of public policy for the americas, — and head of public policy for the americas, ac part of the team that help you _ americas, ac part of the team that help you prepare for this meeting, or no? _ help you prepare for this meeting, or no? can— help you prepare for this meeting, or no? carr i — help you prepare for this meeting, or no? can i clarify you mean? michael— or no? can i clarify you mean? michael beckerman. where is he at this moment? i5 michael beckerman. where is he at this moment?— michael beckerman. where is he at this moment?_ he - michael beckerman. where is he at this moment?_ he is| this moment? is probably... he is sittin: this moment? is probably... he is sitting right _ this moment? is probably... he is sitting right behind _ this moment? is probably... he is sitting right behind you. _ this moment? is probably... he is sitting right behind you. i - this moment? is probably... he is sitting right behind you. i want - this moment? is probably... he is sitting right behind you. i want to| sitting right behind you. i want to know why when he was on jake sitting right behind you. i want to know why when he was onjake tapper on cnn and asked repeatedly to condemn chinese communist government treatment for the uyghur people, when that treatment has been classified by the united states as a genocide, ora classified by the united states as a genocide, or a crime against humanity then why after multiple questions mr beckerman refused to address that? are you afraid of the
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chinese communist government 's are you concerned... public policy, head of public policy for the americas, and an on american television, news channel, why couldn't he condemn 's in your mac is important to look at our platform and if you open the platform and look at any... everybody understands that this is policy except maybe you, personnel is policy. let me conclude with this. and i hate to bring this up. this, the chinese cummins government political and military strategy you have repeatedly used the word transparency throughout this hearing and every time you have said it what i have heard is deception. i yield
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back. . ., , , back. the chair recognises the gentleman _ back. the chair recognises the gentleman from _ back. the chair recognises the gentleman from texas, - back. the chair recognises the gentleman from texas, for- back. the chair recognises the | gentleman from texas, for five minutes — gentleman from texas, for five minutes i— gentleman from texas, for five minutes. ., ., ., , ., gentleman from texas, for five minutes. ., ., ., ~ minutes. i have got to tell you, mr chew, as minutes. i have got to tell you, mr chew. as the _ minutes. i have got to tell you, mr chew, as the father _ minutes. i have got to tell you, mr chew, as the father of _ minutes. i have got to tell you, mr chew, as the father of a _ minutes. i have got to tell you, mr. chew, as the father of a 16-year-old chew, as the father of a 16—year—old that like social media, much of your evasiveness in answering these questions really disturbs me. because i can tell you that the teenagers of today don't want to be on facebook, they want your platform, and you are asked to come before this committee to testify about many things and a lot of us are worried about our kids' personal data. as the co—chair of the congressional conference, tiktok is the real�*s most powerful and extensive propaganda machine elanga chinese communist party to use tiktok's platform to influence public opinion and undermine the integrity of our democratic elections and i have report called
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tiktok and facebook failed to detect election misinformation in the us while youtube succeeds and this was published by the nonprofit global witness and the cyber security firm democracy at nyu, and the purpose was to test platforms like tiktok and whether or not they can detect and whether or not they can detect and take down false political ads targeted at us voters, young voters, ahead of last year's mid—term elections and according to this report, 90% of misinformation ads tested were approved by your platform. that is 90% of ads containing false and misleading election information went undetected on tiktok. i willjust add some colour to the type of misleading ads that were approved by tiktok, putting adverts that will live on tiktok that said the wrong election date and actually encourage people to vote twice, you know that voting twice is a felony, mr chew? you know that it is illegal to vote twice.
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any misinformation that comes order is something we take very seriously. i am is something we take very seriously. lam talking — is something we take very seriously. i am talking particularly about this type of misinformation because it can run rampant on tiktok and given that tiktok you are appealing to young and diverse user base. we are auoin to young and diverse user base. we are going to pull— young and diverse user base. we are going to pull out _ young and diverse user base. we are going to pull out from _ young and diverse user base. we are going to pull out from this _ young and diverse user base. we are going to pull out from thisjust - young and diverse user base. we are going to pull out from thisjust for i going to pull out from this just for a moment to bring you some breaking news. we knew this was coming but nonetheless we're giving the details. labor leader keir starmer has published his tax return following the publication of the prime minister's yesterday. he paid £118,500 on income tax and capital gains, since 2020. i'm more than a million between 2019—2022, in total. mr sunak was the first prime minister to release such a summary of his tax affairs. injanuary this year it is how much he earns and the
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taxi pace. another bit of breaking news, story to keep an eye on and we will have more on it during the course of the next few hours, prime minister binyamin netanyahu has summoned the defence minister after reports in israeli media and the last couple of hours that he was going to go on television tonight, thursday, and call for a halt to the judicial reform, the one that the knesset has approved that has been causing protest after 13 weeks amid concerns. the reason that matters of course is the question of whether it could endanger the future of the coalition. were that minister to be sacked, and in if he turns up and says i'm not going to do that so thatis says i'm not going to do that so that is a senior member of binyamin netanyahu pass own party, the likud. we will keep watching back to see what the outcome is and whether the minister goes ahead with that interview, perhaps it is a
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pre—recorded interview, munoz? —— who knows? there's a new compensation scheme opening today for hundreds of postmasters, who were wrongly accused of stealing money from branch accounts in what became known as the horizon it scandal. they won a landmark legal action four years ago that paved the way for convictions to be overturned and the setting up of an official inquiry. but they were never able to recover their losses because their settlement was swallowed up in legal costs. here's our business correspondent, emma simpson. they uncovered the wrongdoings of the post office. accused of theft when all along faulty software was to blame. cheering celebrations after winning the first legal battle, but they've had to fight for proper compensation ever since. like sue palmerfrom essex. i wake up in the morning and i think about it. i go to bed and i think about it. and when i'm awake most of the night, that's all you think about. because they kept promising, the government kept promising. she was prosecuted and found not guilty,
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but still lost everything, including her home. over the years, itjust became worse and worse, itjust... until the high court sheriffs came and they they put all our furniture in the front garden. you know, the final humiliation. and that's when i had to go bankrupt. a year ago, the government said a new compensation fund was coming. but when sue got her interim payment in december, a big chunk of it went to pay off her bankruptcy debts instead. ifound i owe more than i started off owing 17 years ago because of the interest over the years. so the money went to fees. that doesn't seem right or fair. none of this is fair, is it? but the post office minister is promising sue and everyone else will finally get full and fair compensation, whatever the cost. we're keen to put them back into the place they were prior
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to this mistreatment happening by the post office. so we're very clear about that. for example, if people lost their house through bankruptcy, that financial position should be restored. so you're going to put it right? absolutely. but for some, it's already too late. this solicitor represents many of the victims. clients are mine are dying before they ever receive compensation. | these are mature people. many of them took on their post offices in their 40s and 50s - and 60s as retirement businesses. they're getting no younger and they need help now, . not next week, not next month, and not next year. _ the government wants to get all the claims settled by next august. sue is desperate to move on from her tiny council flat. you can't give me back the years, but you can make the years i've got left a lot more comfortable. i don't want fortunes. i want a home with a front door. that's what i want.
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a 28—year—old man has been charged with two counts of attempted murder after two elderly men were set alight outside mosques in birmingham and london. west midlands police said mohammed abbkr, of edgbaston, birmingham, is being kept in custody ahead of an appearance at a magistrates�* court. isa is a live pictures from paris, the latest street protests. interesting side bar to this following the decision by president macron to push through a pension reform raising the retirement age from 62, up to 64, which was subsequently survived a vote of no confidence in his government. something else to point out, jean—luc melenchon, the leader of the parliamentary left coalition, hasissued of the parliamentary left coalition, has issued a warning to king charles not to come on his state visit
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scheduled for the beginning of the weekend. nothing against you here, you are the king of the english, but you are the king of the english, but you should stay away from versailles, where a state banquet is being held starting next week, for the king and his queen consort, camilla. there is a news conference taking place right now chaired by former desert with mp sebastian coe who now chairs the world athletics organisation. —— former conservative mp. this will give us an idea of the policy from world athletics towards transgender women and female competition. there is talk of confirmation that this may happen. the committee has been meeting in the last couple of hours to try and agree this. and notjust transgender athletes but also those classified as dsd, who have differences in sexual development, the most
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important example of that is caster semenya, the 800 metres champion from south africa. the proposal would affect the amount of blood testosterone just below the level, has to stay below that level fun not just one year as it is at the moment but for two years, so we will get to news conference. let's a listen. that news conference. let's a listen. git resource costs. the council will adopt a resolution and therefore the task force will prompt.— task force will prompt. thank you. are ou task force will prompt. thank you. are you finished? _ task force will prompt. thank you. are you finished? thank— task force will prompt. thank you.
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are you finished? thank you, - task force will prompt. thank you. | are you finished? thank you, sorry, i thouuht are you finished? thank you, sorry, i thought that _ are you finished? thank you, sorry, i thought that your _ are you finished? thank you, sorry, i thought that your feet _ are you finished? thank you, sorry, i thought that your feet had - are you finished? thank you, sorry, i thought that your feet had frozen. | i thought that your feet had frozen. thank you for that. i am sure there may be some questions that will come your way towards the end of the press conference but let me just digress for a moment, because i would just like to take this opportunity, and i know that i speak on behalf of all my council colleagues and those members of the task force, for the herculean work that you and the team have done over the last seven years. it has been exemplary, it has been painstaking, and i know at times it has been painful. this work was absolutely essential. it followed the process, and we, and i come i would like to think that those athletes that are going to be competing, i hope, in future years in russia, do so with the confidence of the rest of the sport. we still have some way to go.
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i think it is worth pointing out that alongside this reinstatement, there is a list of 35 special conditions to be applied for a period of three years, with a review at the end of that period, to determine whether or not it is necessary to maintain those conditions as they are, or with variations for a further period. the council will then approve the recommendation to continue to exclude russian and belarusian athletes and officials from all of our world athletics series events or championships. our continental tour meetings and other international competitions, and that is for the foreseeable future because of the invasion and ongoing war in ukraine. the full details of exclusion are included in the press release that will be issued at the end of this press conference. both federations
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have 24—hour is to respond to the council's decision for counsel again to consider. the council has also approved the establishment of a working group to advise and recommend to the council the conditions that would need to be met for the restrictions on athletes and officials from rusaf and the belarus athletics member federation participating in the world athletics series events to be lifted. this will be set up in the next few weeks. let me now move on to the dsd and transgender regulations. the world athletics council has today taken the decisive action to protect the female category in our sport, and to do so by restricting the participation of transgender and dsd athletes. the decision was taken in consultation with a number of
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stakeholders, including a 40 member federations. our coaches, athletes and through the athletes commission, as well as a range of other community groups, including transit groups, un experts, the international olympic committee and para—athletics. let me if i may start with the transgender athletes. the majority of those consulted stated that transgender athletes should not be competing in the female category. many believe there is insufficient evidence that trans women do not retain advantage over biological women and more evidence than any physical advantages have been ameliorated before they are willing to consider an option for inclusion into the female category. i like dsd athletes, there are no transgender athletes competing in tra nsgender athletes competing in international competition transgender athletes competing in international competition in athletics —— unlike. therefore no
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opposition exist on the front line, the field of play across the different disciplines that are specific to our sport, endurance running, sprints, throws, jumps and road events. why the science is insufficient to justify maintaining testosterone suppression for transgender athletes, the council tra nsgender athletes, the council agreed transgender athletes, the council agreed it must be guided by our overarching principle, which is to protect female category. we cannot, in all conscience, leave our transgender regulations as they were, for at least one year, where were, for at least one year, where we are unsure about the impact of doing so across all our disciplines, so we need to know more and we need to know more now. the council has agreed to exclude male—to—female transgender athletes who have been through male puberty from female world ranking competitions, from
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march 31 this year. however, in order to do further research into the transgender eligibility guidelines we will be establishing a working group whose remit will be to consult specifically with transgender athletes, to seek views on competing in athletics to review and maybe commission additional research, where there is currently limited research and to put forward recommendations to council. the working group will include an independent chair, up to three council members, two athletes for the athletes commission, a transgender athlete from athletics, three representatives from the member federations and representatives of the world athletics health and science department. let me, if i may now, turn to our dsd eligibility. the
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world athletics council today decided to reduce the testosterone threshold for dsd athletes to 2.59 ability to spell little across all events. we had dsd athletes competing in unrestricted events in our sport and we have 15 years of data and for are directly from our own sport and our dsd athletes. as far as our medical manager is aware there is no relevant athlete and by that i mean dsd athlete injumping or throwing events. among the 13 athletes the medical manager has beenin athletes the medical manager has been in contact with, we mentioned in our consultation paper, all have declined testosterone suppression or a complete medical assessment because of this, they have not been eligible to compete in the restricted event since 2019. all those athletes still competing in
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the unrestricted events, around half our competing and running events over the mile and the other half competing in distances below 400. we want to give the dsd athletes who are already competing in our sport, in the unrestricted events, all of those outside of 400, to one mile, the opportunity to resume competition but our scientific advice is that six months is the minimum period necessary to ensure they are naturally high testosterone levels are no longer giving them an advantage over biological women. these interim provisions are only four athletes who are currently competing in the unrestricted events, throwing, jumping, running below 400 and, or beyond the mile. the interim provisions do not apply to the previously restricted events. the six month duration chosen for the interim provision is a
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compromise to provide and allow the relevant athletes who had previously competed in unrestricted events, an opportunity to compete, in compliance with our dsd regulations that were approved today. the six—month period is in line with the required suppression for the current dsd regulations and according to the available science. it is enough to bring haemoglobin levels, a key determinant of performance for natural male levels to normal female levels. it is unlikely to be sufficient to produce enough performance advantage in the power, strength —based disciplines. therefore, we believe that the interim provisions are likely to level the playing field in running events beyond the mile, where 55% of are identified, relevant athletes compete. it is likely to still be insufficient to reduce the unfair advantage the relevant athlete
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experiences and sprinting events, where 45% of the identified, relevant athletes are currently competing. dsd athletes who have been competing in the unrestricted events can applied to benefit from a reduced six—month period to maintain testosterone levels under 2.5 nanomls per litre provided they apply and suppress the testosterone level to 2.5 nanomls per litre, before 1st ofjuly of this year, 2023, so none of these athletes will be eligible to compete in the world athletics championships in budapest in august. they will be eligible to compete in other events after that six—month period, including the paris olympic games next year, if and only if they maintain their testosterone at the required level. i know there is a lot of detail
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ido i do understand that it is better than _ i do understand that it is better than tv, — i do understand that it is better than tv, but it is quite difficult to unmute _ than tv, but it is quite difficult to unmute everybody individually so if you _ to unmute everybody individually so if you wait _ to unmute everybody individually so if you wait until the end we can ask questions — if you wait until the end we can ask questions directly, thanks. 0k, ok, so how do you feel about the ioc trying _ ok, so how do you feel about the ioc trying to— ok, so how do you feel about the ioc trying to allow russians to compete as neutrals — trying to allow russians to compete as neutrals despite ukraine were still going on. | as neutrals despite ukraine were still going on-— as neutrals despite ukraine were still going on. i think the position ofthe still going on. i think the position of the council _ still going on. i think the position of the council statement - still going on. i think the position of the council statement today i still going on. i think the position of the council statement today is| of the council statement today is very clear. there is no ambiguity about it to stop the primacy for the decision around eligibility rests with the international federation. that is something that was agreed at the court of opposition when we were
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