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crisis, though. it is the climate crisis. as europe goes head to head with the united states on subsidies for green investment he will ask what it means for business, international trade and the future of the planet. i will discuss that with these two. there they are. and we will assess the impact on business with way griffiths the big boss of the car—maker say yet which has just announced an electric car battery plant in spain. and later in the programme, the man behind the cinema magic. iwill speak the programme, the man behind the cinema magic. i will speak to the boss of visual effects giant frame store. i will ask him about working on the world's biggest movies and what the future holds for film, tv and gaming.
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wherever you arejoining me wherever you are joining me from around the world, once again, a big hello and warm welcome to the show. just days before the un issued its latest wake—up call to the world about global warming, the european union laid out its ambitions to boost the green economy. it has announced plans for massive subsidies to manage the near $400 billion already committed by us presidentjoe biden in his signature information reduction act. in washington, dc the issue topped the agenda at the meeting between the eu president and president biden taking precedence even over the war in
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ukraine. you make the first topic we discussed is information reduction act and, indeed, discussed is information reduction actand, indeed, we discussed is information reduction act and, indeed, we welcome the inflation reduction act because it is a massive investment in the green transition, moving towards a net zero economy. it is mirrored by the green deal industrial plan in the european union. the amounts of money we are talking about for these subsidies is huge. the american inflation reduction act puts aside $269 billion in subsidies and tax credits for clean energy and technology. the aim is to drive up demand for american—made products so if you want a subsidy for an electric car the battery for it must be made in the battery for it must be made in the usa. it is claimed green industries in america added 100,000 jobs in the first five months after the act was signed into law. but the eu is fighting back. in february, the commissioner announced its queen industrial deal pledging more than one quarter of trillion dollars for the green transition and then, earlier this month, two more big
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announcements for big subsidies. they are not yet know. they need to be approved by governments and the eu parliament but one of the main goals is to subsidise clean technology where these 40% of the product is made in the eu. but despite the big numbers by the eu and us lag behind china. in 2022 alone more than half $1 trillion was invested in the sector in china. compare that to the 141 billion in the us, it is also way ahead of germany, france and the uk. so can these subsidies really make a difference to climate change and what impact a massive subsidies in one part of the world have elsewhere? let's talk to gareth from the london based energy and climate
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intelligence unit. good to have you on the show this week. we are talking about some big numbers. the question is, are they big enough numbers to tackle the climate crisis? you might definitely big enough to make a difference. they may not be quite enough quite yet. the reportjust published in the state of climate change globally suggest we need something like three — six times the level of investment we currently have to get on track but if you take the us $369 billion committed under the inflation reduction act alongside a couple of other pieces of legislation with money attached, may be as much as $500 billion, that is a step change in investment. it will help put the us a lot closer to getting on track for its current emissions target and also will lavage considerably more investment. that 500 billion could leverage something like 1.2 trillion in private investment on top of that. what we are seeing is this big dog is coming together. the us, eu, china is doing its own thing way out front. i wonder where it leaves
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other smaller players. including in that the uk. it has left the european union. where does that anyone who maybe doesn't have as deep pockets?— deep pockets? overall, it pits as aloball deep pockets? overall, it pits as globally in _ deep pockets? overall, it pits as globally in a _ deep pockets? overall, it pits as globally in a very _ deep pockets? overall, it pits as globally in a very good _ deep pockets? overall, it pits as globally in a very good situation. got some of the biggest economies on the planet competing to fund the clean transition that the science is very clear we everyone to get on track for 1.5 degrees. the uk has led the way on investment in climate changed. it has moved markets. it has grown industries and brought supply chains to the uk to help the transition. i think there is a risk in the short term of the uk is not able to clarify the policy situation, to improve the regulatory situation, to improve the regulatory situation in the uk and to keep providing public investment that leverages that, that it will get left behind and squeezed between the
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eu and us. it is a very valuable industry. net zero is valuable to the uk economy. recent calculations showed it is worth 70 billion a year and employs 840,000 people. that is something like five times what the oil and gas industry employs so it is worth fighting for. it is worth investing in and it is cheaper to investing in and it is cheaper to invest in it than to bear the costs of not making that transition fast enough. quite mccallum did the subsidies have to last? because they are expensive and i wonder if this is about changing behaviour in the short term or making a marked shift in the longer term because countries cannot afford to keep paying this? we've got a clear example here in the uk. if you look at offshore wind a decade, maybe 15 years ago, all the talk of offshore wind was to dismiss it and say it is expensive, we cannot afford to subsidise this. it is more expensive than nuclear. but subsidising in the right way,
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incentivising and leveraging private investment to crew the industry, deployed offshore wind at a phenomenal rate which brought down costs, improve the technology, through the companies and industry, provided jobs, through the companies and industry, providedjobs, high—qualityjobs through the companies and industry, provided jobs, high—qualityjobs in provided jobs, high—quality jobs in areas provided jobs, high—qualityjobs in areas of the uk that very much welcome them and now offshore wind is cheaper than gas. white make these subsidies already announced are still in their infancy but i wonder what difference they are making already and i suppose that comes down to corporate thinking about where they may set out, whether they have the financial support to invest in new r and d and ::-= tech. we've seen some green tech. we've seen some announcements from companies that camino, battery companies, car companies, that they may switch investments to the us because of the subsidy that is on offer but this is not a zero—sum game. in the end, a
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huge part of this, these clean technology industries, did not exist 15, 20 years technology industries, did not exist 15,20 years ago. technology industries, did not exist 15, 20 years ago. they have grown as a result of the need and investment. making it abundantly clear that the need is still there first to expand these industries, expand this transition. and more of that investment will grow, continue to grow those industries, continue to grow those industries, continue to grow the opportunities. it is about investing in the right way at the right time. it investing in the right way at the ri . ht time. , investing in the right way at the right time-— right time. it is so good to talk to. right time. it is so good to talk to- thank _ right time. it is so good to talk to- thank you _ right time. it is so good to talk to. thank you for _ right time. it is so good to talk to. thank you for being - right time. it is so good to talk to. thank you for being with i right time. it is so good to talkj to. thank you for being with us right time. it is so good to talk. to. thank you for being with us on the programme. it is clear this is also about creating jobs and business. but is it also about governments protecting their own economies? pamela is an expert on trade law at the university of sussex. it is good to have you on the programme. if you take the word
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green out of the subsidies it is essentiallyjust green out of the subsidies it is essentially just state aid, green out of the subsidies it is essentiallyjust state aid, isn't it? essentially 'ust state aid, isn't it? , , ., , ., ., it? yes, it is a state aid. the differences _ it? yes, it is a state aid. the differences in _ it? yes, it is a state aid. the differences in the _ it? yes, it is a state aid. the differences in the eu - it? yes, it is a state aid. the differences in the eu it - it? yes, it is a state aid. the differences in the eu it is - it? yes, it is a state aid. the. differences in the eu it is very carefully regulated under this framework whereas in the us, they are not so interested in international laws and norms to regulate their subsidies. talk international laws and norms to regulate their subsidies. talk to me about the difference. _ regulate their subsidies. talk to me about the difference. why - regulate their subsidies. talk to me about the difference. why is - regulate their subsidies. talk to me about the difference. why is the - regulate their subsidies. talk to me about the difference. why is the usj about the difference. why is the us taking such a different approach? the us is, in terms of a power game, the us has always felt it has been able to guide the international trade system just through its dominance whereas the eu is very much a proponent of the international rules —based system under the wto and internally to ensure a level playing field among member states? ensure a level playing field among memberstates? it ensure a level playing field among member states?— ensure a level playing field among member states? it suggest that by -auttin the member states? it suggest that by putting the word — member states? it suggest that by putting the word green _ member states? it suggest that by putting the word green in - member states? it suggest that by putting the word green in front - member states? it suggest that by putting the word green in front of. putting the word green in front of this, the us is able to throw out all of those internationally agreed
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laws. you make there is a real problem with greenwashing at the moment and the us is supporting its domestic industry and domestic production through these local content requirements which actually violates international trade those under the wto but their filters and the government at the moment to try and stop these transgressions but, the end of the day, this is a subsidy rate and china obviously is ahead of the game and the real problem is that a subsidy raise is really a trade war and we know what happens when there are trade wars, what happened just before the second world war and we also know that poor countries can't play this game. this is a rich country _ countries can't play this game. ti 3 is a rich country racer you actually exacerbating global inequalities. interesting that you mention this is a developed world issue. where does
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all of this leave the developing world? there is not of subsidies to business. .,, ., world? there is not of subsidies to business. ., , , , , business. those without subsidies are left out _ business. those without subsidies are left out of— business. those without subsidies are left out of this _ business. those without subsidies are left out of this game - business. those without subsidies are left out of this game and - business. those without subsidies are left out of this game and they| are left out of this game and they just have to hope that they can afford to import these goods and they might not be the cheapest and they might not be the cheapest and they might not be the most green of what we would like the world to be pursuing. forthose what we would like the world to be pursuing. for those countries it is kind of like india and indonesia. they look to see how the us is flouting international rules and they think, well were just going to have to play the same game. do you fight fire with fire or do you have the moral high ground? when you have fight fire with fire or do you have the mora pressures nd? when you have fight fire with fire or do you have the mora pressures at? when you have fight fire with fire or do you have the mora pressures at home n you have fight fire with fire or do you have the mora pressures at home such have fight fire with fire or do you have the mora pressures at home such as ve domestic pressures at home such as unemployment and poverty, then
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sometimes it is easier politically to just sometimes it is easier politically tojustjoin sometimes it is easier politically to justjoin the sometimes it is easier politically tojustjoin the subsidy sometimes it is easier politically to justjoin the subsidy game and thatis to justjoin the subsidy game and that is not the most efficient use of resources or the most effective way to mitigate the planets crisis. we are talking about three big blocks. china, the eu and us. i wonder, after breck said, the uk's departure from the eu, where does this leave the uk? the departure from the eu, where does this leave the uk?— departure from the eu, where does this leave the uk? the uk has been t in: to this leave the uk? the uk has been trying to have _ this leave the uk? the uk has been trying to have a _ this leave the uk? the uk has been trying to have a sort _ this leave the uk? the uk has been trying to have a sort of _ this leave the uk? the uk has been trying to have a sort of green - trying to have a sort of green industrial under brexit. the problem is the uk is equally conditioned by the international rules —based system and so we already have the eu actually bring in the uk consultations and the wto because of its low carbon subsidies so the uk has as much to worry about by these rules as any other country and again, the uk hasn't got the resources that the us has so in terms of the industry, maybe it is more about new tech rather than more about new techxatbe: than. on electric more about new tecbxatbe: than. on electric vehicles and focusing on electric vehicles and solar panels which are already mature industries, maybe we need to think even further ahead of the game and the kit hydrogen and further on because it does seem to be a waste of time to try to catch up.—
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of time to try to catch up. thank ou so of time to try to catch up. thank you so much- — of time to try to catch up. thank you so much. really— of time to try to catch up. thank you so much. really good - of time to try to catch up. thank you so much. really good to - of time to try to catch up. thank. you so much. really good to have your thoughts on the programme. what impact does this have on business? if you are a car—maker deciding where to make your next generation of electric cars, could subsidies influence your decision? let's talk to somebody who is tackling that. the boss of sayed. thank you for being on the programme this week and talk to me about that investment you are making. electric battery production there. how important were subsidies in making that decision? the total investment and together with their partners, it is a 10 billion euros investment in electrifying spain and that investment is split across different areas. developing small electric cars that were going to build here in spain in our two plants. the other is preparing the plan so the
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plants themselves need to be prepared for electrification then the big news last week where we were laying the foundation with the prime minister and the king of spain for the first giguere factory battery plant in spain in valencia. when you look around — plant in spain in valencia. when you look around the _ plant in spain in valencia. when you look around the world _ plant in spain in valencia. when you look around the world to _ plant in spain in valencia. when you look around the world to see - plant in spain in valencia. when you look around the world to see where l look around the world to see where you might expand operations, how influential is that subsidy in where you establish? it is influential is that subsidy in where you establish?— you establish? it is playing a key role at the _ you establish? it is playing a key role at the moment _ you establish? it is playing a key role at the moment and - you establish? it is playing a key role at the moment and we - you establish? it is playing a key role at the moment and we have j you establish? it is playing a key i role at the moment and we have to make sure that europe, that we maintain our competitiveness against the us seven decision for the 10 billion investment in spain, the spanish government played a key role. we had a unique moment in time, unique opportunity that we could use to support us in making a
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decision particularly for the new activity of the battery plant in valencia. that was absolutely key and essential and, as i say, looking ahead, when we see what is happening in the united states and also in canada and the north american region, europe needs to maintain competitiveness. that region, europe needs to maintain competitiveness.— region, europe needs to maintain competitiveness. that neither gets us onto that _ competitiveness. that neither gets us onto that story _ competitiveness. that neither gets us onto that story and _ competitiveness. that neither gets us onto that story and headlines i competitiveness. that neither gets us onto that story and headlines of late. you are part of the vw group. there is a lot of speculation that the group may instead of setting up that big investment in eastern europe that money might go to the us to take advantage of some of the new subsidies. how much truth is in that? i subsidies. how much truth is in that? ., ., , that? i cannot comment on the plans ofthat that? i cannot comment on the plans of that group — that? i cannot comment on the plans of that group but _ that? i cannot comment on the plans of that group but we _ that? i cannot comment on the plans of that group but we can _ that? i cannot comment on the plans of that group but we can confirm - that? i cannot comment on the plans of that group but we can confirm we | of that group but we can confirm we are doing our electrification here for the battery electric plans. i think you also need battery plans close to where you produce and reproduce more in spain so it makes a lot of sense for us to have that battery plant here in spain. there
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is another factor i would like to bring to the table, notjust inventions but if you are going to build a battery electric vehicles with zero emissions you need renewable energy to do that. it does not make sense to build batteries, electric batteries with fossil fuel generated electricity so in the case of spain with 50% of energy sourced from renewable energy and the potential that becoming more. you can see behind me the sun is shining. the sun shines through the day so we have a huge potential of renewable energy and i think that plays an important role, a decisive role in the case of spain. luglhat plays an important role, a decisive role in the case of spain.— role in the case of spain. what is the tipping _ role in the case of spain. what is the tipping point? _ role in the case of spain. what is the tipping point? when - role in the case of spain. what is the tipping point? when are - role in the case of spain. what is the tipping point? when are we i role in the case of spain. what is - the tipping point? when are we more likely to be in electric vehicle than one fuelled by fossil fuels? that will depend a lot on the country, i think. that will depend a lot on the country, ithink. if that will depend a lot on the country, i think. if we look in the north of europe it is already very advanced. the average across all of europe is 20% of sales are electric
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vehicles, germany is slightly higher and scandinavian countries are even higher. the uk also are 20 or 25%. in southern europe they are lagging behind particularly here in spain with only 10% electrification so it is different in different markets. but i think a lot of it will depend on how committed the european governments are in their individual markets to support the acceleration to electrification not only in terms of incentives for electric cars but the charging infrastructure is one of the biggest worries the consumers have so that has to speed up as well and from a spanish point of view i am needing the car industry here in spain and we are pushing the government to speed up with concrete actions in this area. can government to speed up with concrete actions in this area.— actions in this area. can acclimate to wait that _
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actions in this area. can acclimate to wait that long? _ actions in this area. can acclimate to wait that long? the _ actions in this area. can acclimate to wait that long? the targets - actions in this area. can acclimate to wait that long? the targets for| to wait that long? the targets for 2030 50 emissions is an ambitious target when you see where we are today and where we want to be it is one cycle of a car and obviously, cars are not the only producer of c02 and emissions so we need to do ourjob but we want to be part of the solution. we are speeding up. i think 2025 onwards with a small battery electric vehicles we will see the number of electric cars going up considerably and we want to be fully electric brand by 2030. we just have to start speeding up now. it is good to talk to. enjoy that sunshine. we then talking about subsidies for green technology but here in the uk, the government has alsojust announced here in the uk, the government has also just announced extra
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here in the uk, the government has alsojust announced extra help here in the uk, the government has also just announced extra help for the film industry. generous tax credits for productions based in the country but the big blockbuster movies really need financial help? let's talk to sir william sergeant who founded one of the world's most successful reduction companies. welcome to talking business. we've been discussing green subsidies on the programme and there are now subsidies for your industry, too. what green subsidies might help the planet is a right that we subsidise your industry? do you need financial help? to your industry? do you need financial hel? ., , your industry? do you need financial hel? .,, , , your industry? do you need financial hel? .,, , help? to be competitive. it is an inward investment _ help? to be competitive. it is an inward investment so _ help? to be competitive. it is an inward investment so dismally . help? to be competitive. it is an i inward investment so dismally that would not come here. we get £7 inward investment so dismally that would not come here. we get e7 of value for every £1 would not come here. we get e7 of value for every e1 of tax credit so if we did not have that we would have additional benefit, very simple. no tax credit, the business
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would not come here.— simple. no tax credit, the business would not come here. those credits make it more _ would not come here. those credits make it more financially _ would not come here. those credits make it more financially viable - would not come here. those credits make it more financially viable to i make it more financially viable to operate in a certain country, don't they? talk to me about what would happen if they were not on offer. can you still afford to do it somewhere in the like the uk? the holl ood somewhere in the like the uk? tue: hollywood studios somewhere in the like the uk? tta: hollywood studios is somewhere in the like the uk? tt2 hollywood studios is co—funded with an american company so if we didn't have the tax credits production would basically go to different parts of the world and a community we spent 25 years building. the creative industries is the fastest—growing part of the economy and has been for the past decade so we would basically be giving up something that we are world leaders in. and when she give it up it is very difficult to get it back. you
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have worked — very difficult to get it back. you have worked on _ very difficult to get it back. you have worked on some huge productions, haven't you? things like top gun, harry potter, the marvel movies, you talked about. a lot of them are sequels. criticism that originality has gone out the window because you can just turn out sequels. is there any truth in that? what is wrong with harry potter, variations on the story. sequels, if you think about the marvel cinematic universe, we all want characters and stories. coronation street is however many times a week sequel but we like the characters without any benighted environments. t we like the characters without any benighted environments.- we like the characters without any benighted environments. i would love to see some — benighted environments. i would love to see some of— benighted environments. i would love to see some of your _ benighted environments. i would love to see some of your special _ benighted environments. i would love to see some of your special effects i to see some of your special effects in coronation street. there is the merging of television, movies and gaming now put up a huge part of what you do is gaming so talk to us about the direction of the industry
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overall because the lines are blurring between what was a traditional industry and a very new industry. i'm thinking of things like the last of us. a computer successful on television with very filmic production values. tt all filmic production values. it all comes down _ filmic production values. it all comes down to _ filmic production values. it all comes down to storytelling. l filmic production values. tit all comes down to storytelling. the direction has been to tell stories are previously quite often the plotlines and characterisations are now you've characters in games which you can actually make the most of. what is most exciting and all the things your company does right now? in a career working with technology companies in different forms of reality which we call mixed reality and immersive technologies so if you look at a game like fortnight, for example, we currently consume entertainment and live our lives in a digital sense with their mobile phones and laptops or whatever. you talk about the virtual world. it
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hasn't quite taken off yet as they thought it would. is it shaping out how you thought it would? tt is how you thought it would? it is shaina how you thought it would? it is shaping out — how you thought it would? it is shaping out into _ how you thought it would? tt 3 shaping out into all the components as a three—dimensional world. and, you know, when you look back at the internet, you are looking at the same analogies as we move into three—dimensional world in that it is like hollywood. nobody knows anything. nobody is guaranteed to be anything. nobody is guaranteed to be a winnerjust because you spend $10 billion. it is too early to end the matter verse. billion. it is too early to end the matter verse-— billion. it is too early to end the matter verse. keep on doing this ruite a matter verse. keep on doing this quite a while- — matter verse. keep on doing this quite a while. has _ matter verse. keep on doing this quite a while. has the _ matter verse. keep on doing this quite a while. has the industry i quite a while. has the industry changed in the way you thought it
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would? did you everforesee he would be creating the sort of stuff and you founded the business? we be creating the sort of stuff and you founded the business? we set up eiuht you founded the business? we set up eight people — you founded the business? we set up eight people in _ you founded the business? we set up eight people in a _ you founded the business? we set up eight people in a room _ you founded the business? we set up eight people in a room and _ you founded the business? we set up eight people in a room and wanted i you founded the business? we set up eight people in a room and wanted to j eight people in a room and wanted to be big in soho and then we wanted to be big in soho and then we wanted to be big in london but we always set out to be big in the world because film was where the action was. 0ur aspirations were global and ambitious and it is about storytelling and enabling story and so we look at now what will be happening in the next five years. it is about will someone pay for it now? will someone take the financial risk because it all comes back to the consumers buying something that then makes it financially feasible to do something different in storytelling. tt to do something different in storytelling-— to do something different in storytelling. it sounds really excitina. storytelling. it sounds really exciting. thank _ storytelling. it sounds really exciting. thank you - storytelling. it sounds really exciting. thank you so i
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showers. an improving picture across northern ireland. cold across northern scotland even though we have sunshine. temperatures typically between nine and 14 celsius this afternoon. this area of showers and longer spells of rain will start resulted this this band of cloud and rain pushing in from the south—west into wales, central southern england, for the now is a fair amount southern england, for the now is a fairamount of southern england, for the now is a fair amount of cloud. clearer skies of northern scotland but wintry showers and here we could see temperatures at or below freezing. 4-7 temperatures at or below freezing. 4—7 further south. don't forget the clocks move forward one hour to the early hours of sunday morning so we start on british summer time but this area of low pressure bringing cloud and rain to the southern half of the uk. as it starts to move eastward through the morning we will see the cold are rare across scotland and northern england digging down across the uk so this will signal a couple of days of colder weather for a wet start to the day on monday. that rain will be pulling away but leaving a legacy of
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cloud. sunshine developing through the midlands and across scotland. wintry showers for northern scotland, may be north—east england and temperatures will be struggling through sunday afternoon compared to saturday. monday will be a cold, frosty but sunny start for much of the uk. while developing to the day across parts of wales and south—west england. rain and snow pushing into the northern isles. a cold feeling day but then things start to change once again as we had three tuesday and beyond.
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