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live from london. this is bbc news. donald trump is set to leave his home in florida to fly to new york, to face charges related to alleged hush money payments to a porn star. the man who shot 9—year—old olivia pratt—korbel in her own home in liverpool is given a life sentence for her murder — with a minimum of 42 years. finland will officially become a member of nato on tuesday. the move is seen as a major strategic setback for vladimir putin. the moments before a pro—war blogger, was killed in an explosion in st petersburg. a 26—year—old woman's been detained by russian authorities.
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welcome to bbc news. let's return to events in florida. if in showing you pictures for the last while. the open because we are expecting in the next few moments if we are following the time schedule laid out by the former president to see donald trump leave the building and head to the airport and then begin the journey to new york. that is where of course all the focus is going to be with that indictment, those court proceedings, for the first time ever a former president has faced a criminal prosecution and those details of that criminal
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prosecution, they will be made public tomorrow. but we know of the indictment in terms of the actual charges and the detail, we will learn a lot more as that is laid out in court tomorrow. today we will see the former president make that move. there is still no actual clarity of perhaps what we will get tomorrow, the optics, whether we get a mug shot of the former president, whether cameras will be allowed in the courtroom for the list of charges. a lot of those things the judge himself, the media have made requests for cameras, he will make a decision on that, at some stage tomorrow. we are keeping an eye on those pictures, we will return just as soon as there is any movement there in florida. and bring you the very latest. before we turn to that it gives us a chance to catch up
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with that breaking news we brought you in the last hour or so. and lets return to that breaking news we bought you half an hour ago that the killer of a nine—year—old girl in liverpool has been jailed for 42 years for her murder. thomas cashman — who's 3a — was found guilty last week of shooting dead the girl at herfamily home during a chase with a convicted drug dealer. his lawyer told manchester crown court that cashman was refusing to come to the dock for sentencing — claiming that prosecutors sang "we are the champions" when he was convicted. let's take a look at the moment cashman�*s sentence was pronounced at manchester crown court. on count one, for the murder of olivia pratt—korbel, the sentence will be life imprisonment. the minimum term will be 42 years, less the time the defendant has already spent on remand. on count two, the attempted murder ofjoseph nee, the sentence is life imprisonment with a minimum term of 22 years. on count three, wounding cheryl korbel with intent to do grievous bodily harm to another, the sentence is ten
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years imprisonment. on counts four and five, the firearms offences, the sentence is 18 years imprisonment on each. all those sentences are to be served concurrently, meaning that the shortest period the defendant will be required to serve before he can be considered for early release from the sentence of life imprisonment is 42 years, less the 182 days he has served on remand. after he has served that minimum term, he can only be released if the parole board decide that it is appropriate. he would then remain on licence for the remainder of his life. that was thejudge that was the judge making her statement as she passed sentence she talked about the shot notjust in liverpool but right across the country and in the last few minutes we have been hearing statements from olivia's family have a listen.
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i would especially like i would like to especially thank our family liaison officers, detective constable louise wright and julie moses, who have worked so hard and professionally with boundless dedication, to achieve this result. we welcome the sentence given, but what i can say is that my family and i have already started our life sentence, having to spend the rest of our lives without olivia. we are overwhelmed by the outstanding support of the public, during this horrific time, and wish to say thank you. we now ask for time and space to try and process what has happened, over the past few months, and most importantly, grieve for our olivia she was so cruelly stolen from us. thank you.
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that the statement in the last few minutes let's talk now to him our home editor. just about every detail of the story is so shocking is it not? , , ., ., of the story is so shocking is it not? , ,., ., of the story is so shocking is it not? , ., . , not? yes it is one of those crimes that affects _ not? yes it is one of those crimes that affects not _ not? yes it is one of those crimes that affects not just _ not? yes it is one of those crimes that affects not just those - that affects not just those connected and caught up in it but a whole city in liverpool and indeed, i would say probably the whole country. and who has caught up with the details of this terrible crime, this little girl caught, released in the crossfire of gang wars in liverpool, shot through the front door of her home as she came down scared trying to talk to her mother. just awful, any parent or individual cannot help be moved by that. today we have been hearing the victim impact statements given by the family, that thejudge in court heard a stop to be honest anyone who heard a stop to be honest anyone who heard those, really emotional and distressing to hear this sort of agonies they have been through. i wasjust agonies they have been through. i was just struck by listening to
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olivia's mother they're talking about how they are just the starting their life sentence. how they needed to try and process what had gone on. and that they must in no way, almost start the grieving process. she seemed to be saying. and i think thatis seemed to be saying. and i think that is probably right. because this family will have been caught up in the process, first of all the aftermath of the awful incident itself. then the long torturous process of trying to achieve justice which they finally did. and as you can hear it, this is a family who know the theyjust need a bit of space not to come to terms with what has happened. we space not to come to terms with what has happened-— has happened. we were saying that cashman actually _ has happened. we were saying that cashman actually refused _ has happened. we were saying that cashman actually refused to - has happened. we were saying that cashman actually refused to come l cashman actually refused to come into the courtroom to hear the sentence. tell me more about that and thejudge also sentence. tell me more about that and the judge also said that there were reasons, that i need to explain why that this is a case that
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attracts a whole life order. what were the reasons that she laid out for not doing that? first were the reasons that she laid out for not doing that?— for not doing that? first levy on cashman not — for not doing that? first levy on cashman not appearing. - for not doing that? first levy on cashman not appearing. i - for not doing that? first levy on cashman not appearing. i think| cashman not appearing. i think people may suggest another nastiness on top of the horror on top of all of his crimes. certainly people were saying that it was a sign of his kallis that he was not prepared to come to court and face the families of his victims and indeed the judge as she gave her sentence. there is this rather strange, to many in england and wales in which the jurisdiction this court case was happening about the life sentence was tops of a murder of this kind automatically means you get sentenced to life imprisonment, but life imprisonment can mean one of two things, it can meet a whole life term in which case, life means life.
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you stay in prison until you die. thejudge in this you stay in prison until you die. the judge in this case you stay in prison until you die. thejudge in this case did not you stay in prison until you die. the judge in this case did not feel, they felt that there were some aspects of the killing, perhaps the almost accidental nature of the victim which meant it was not a whole life tariff type of case. that being said, thejudge can then whole life tariff type of case. that being said, the judge can then set within a very complicated technical boundaries, which obviously are unchallengeable potentially, a minimum term to be served. the starting point for that she said was 30 years with no mitigation so it was a question of how how many are forgetting factors there were she decided they were a number of abrogating factors and get a sentence of 42 years minimum and thatis sentence of 42 years minimum and that is a very significant addition on top of 30. the family who were in court at the time were in tears. there were people hugging and they came out, as he heard and said that
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they felt that they had got justice. it is a complicated process. yes, it is life imprisonment, it is possible that cashman at the age of perhaps 75 or six maybe at that point be able to apply for parole but there is no certainty that he would get parole or be released and even if you got to the point where the parole board were convinced that he was no longer a threat, at that point he would be on licence and could be recalled at any moment. so in effect thomas cashman, although he may not be in prison for all of the rest of his life, will certainly have extreme restrictions on his paper from have extreme restrictions on his paperfrom here until have extreme restrictions on his paper from here until he have extreme restrictions on his paperfrom here until he dies. have extreme restrictions on his paper from here until he dies. thank ou ve paper from here until he dies. thank you very much _ paper from here until he dies. thank you very much for — paper from here until he dies. thank you very much for taking _ paper from here until he dies. thank you very much for taking us - paper from here until he dies. thank you very much for taking us through that, mark. we arejuggling some big stories here on the programme this one in particular in the next little while with like pictures coming to us us from mar—a—largo in florida where he is due to move
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ahead in florida we will see tomorrow. interesting detailfrom our correspondent in new york detailing that a whole host of legal and security officials coordinating this move today and what we are likely to see in court tomorrow when donald trump voluntarily surrenders and appears in court. i was to sing and appears in court. i was to sing a little earlier, media organisations have opinions on how it should be handled and several outlets have asked the judge, already to allow cameras inside the courtroom to capture those proceedings. something that does not usually happen. third letter suggests a limited number of photographers, videographers and be allowed inside and argue the gravity of the proceeding and consequently the need for the broadcast and possible access cannot be
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overstated, stated in the letter. interesting that the judge will issue an order on that later today. he has told the manhattan district attorney office to donald trump's attorneys to submit any objections so perhaps we will get the decision in the next little while. in the next little while will receive the moments where the former president goes from his home to the plane for top we saw on the tarmac a little earlier friday to take a short hop to new york. and of course a huge story, this criminal proceedings getting under way. and of course so much hanging on it in terms of what is being laid out by the attorney general and the backdrop, of course it's notjust a legal story, it is a political story with donald trump putting himself forward as the 2024
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candidate for the election. and of course the impact all of this has on that political battle. so all of thoseissues that political battle. so all of those issues and questions thrown into the mix and donald trump, when he gets back to mar—a—largo will have a news conference and i'm sure will address a lot of that between that moment and this moment. we will see all of those images around to the courthouse and the proceedings. crucial in the main part of what we will learn tomorrow is the nature of the charges, the number of charges, the charges, the number of charges, the details on the charges that surround that incitement. so all of that lies ahead over the next 24 hours. around the world and across the uk you are watching bbc news.
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every day there are collisions where people are killed or seriously injured or more and those are caused by people on their mobile phones. that's why safer roads humber wants its own van like this in the future. live with bbc news let's turn out to another major story. nato's secretary general, said the country will officially become a member of the �*military alliance' on tuesday. it's been fast—tracked because of russia's invasion of ukraine. here'sjens stoltenberg making the announcement from brussels. this is a historic week. tomorrow, we will welcome finland as the 31st member of nato, making finland safer and our alliance stronger. we will raise the finnish flag for the first time here at the nato headquarters. it will be a good day for finland's security, for nordic security and nato
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as a whole. paul adams our diplomatic correspondent gave us his analysis. it is a significant moment and it is one that has been coming since last year when it was clear that sweden and finland were both on a fast track to join the alliance. and indeed, jens stoltenberg, speaking earlier today, was at pains to point out that this has been the fastest accession process in the alliance's history, and making it clear once again that this was a direct result of russia's invasion of ukraine, pointing out that, as he said early on last year, that russia had declared that its intention was to have less nato presence in eastern europe and that the result of its invasion of ukraine was the exact opposite. that nato's border with russia was now going to double as a result of finland's
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accession to the alliance and that in finland, nato is acquiring an extremely capable ally with large, well developed, well maintained armed forces, with dozens of the latest american made fighter jets and so forth. so this is a really big moment for the alliance. it enhances the alliance's capability and it is a clear rebuff to everything vladimir putin said he wanted to see in europe. exactly on that point, paul, for decades vladimir putin really was aggrieved by nato expansion. the irony of all of this is, post that invasion of ukraine, he has now got more nato on his doorstep. yes, and, you know, this time last year or a little earlier than this time last year, support for nato membership in finland was pretty hit and miss. but you saw that climbing sharply after the invasion and it became an absolute inevitability, frankly,
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by the middle of last year that finland would join. so this is really a complete reversal of what moscow would see as its interests. it is an incomplete process inasmuch is it does not yet include sweden, and that is because turkey continues to have problems with the swedish accession due to what turkey sees as rather lax attitude on the part of the swedish authorities towards kurdish exiles who the turks see as terrorists. that is something that turkey says it has seen finland taking action on to its satisfaction and that is why we are seeing finland joining and not sweden. although the nato secretary general, jens stoltenberg, says he expects sweden to follow pretty soon and that by the next nato summit in the summer, both countries would be members. earlier i spoke tojulianne smith —
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the us ambassador to nato who started by giving her reaction to finland joining nato. that coming up in a moment but back to florida now, the convoy coming through the gate as donald trump heads to the airport out of the gates across the bridge there at mar—a—largo and onwards toward the airport. it's the eye out of the corner of my eye pictures from the airport as well. so that movement of the former president, that appears to be under way. there, thejet, on the tarmac and donald trump begins his journey to the tarmac and donald trump begins hisjourney to new the tarmac and donald trump begins his journey to new york where we will see that court appearance tomorrow. details still being fleshed out as we speak, the judge do to make a ruling on what we will or it will not be able to see in the court. but a stark moment that will
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appear tomorrow, a former president faces criminal prosecution. keeping an eye on those pictures when donald trump arrives there. we will all return to it. let's return to those developments around nato we will play the interview with the us investor in a moment but first of all let's bring ina bring in a columnist. let's speak to elisabeth braw, a columnist with foreign policy, a senior fellow in defence as security at the american enterprise institute. thank you for being with us on the state that is announced. how important is this moment? t5 important is this moment? t3 extremely important since nato has been founded as an alliance, but finland always wanted to remain
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outside because it did not have a choice. . , �* outside because it did not have a choice. ., , �* , outside because it did not have a choice. .,, �* , , choice. elizabeth i'm so sorry but i'm 'ust choice. elizabeth i'm so sorry but i'm just going _ choice. elizabeth i'm so sorry but i'm just going to _ choice. elizabeth i'm so sorry but i'm just going to interrupt - choice. elizabeth i'm so sorry but. i'm just going to interrupt because as you are speaking we have cut two shots from florida to see donald trump, that convoy that i was talking aboutjust trump, that convoy that i was talking about just a trump, that convoy that i was talking aboutjust a short while ago, going through the shot and there it is, you can see centre screen, the cars taking the former president. the security detail, as is always the case with movements involving a former president, but especially in this case with the knowledge, everyone knows he will be making thatjourney knowledge, everyone knows he will be making that journey from knowledge, everyone knows he will be making thatjourney from florida to new york to face those criminal charges. all to do with the alleged hush money payments to stormy daniels back in 2016 before the 2016
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presidential election to keep quiet. the attorney general in new york had been looking at a range of financial activity, re—pivoted his own investigation and landed with this criminal indictment we heard about on thursday. there he see the convoy going across the bridge as it heads towards the airport. at the start of what will be a frenetic 24 hours. because once he is in new york, a slight pause there, he will head to trump tower on fifth ave, there he will consult his lawyers and of course the mechanics of tomorrow then become centre stage as he fee faces, we know about the indictment but the exact nature of the charges, that will be the critical thing to keep an eye out in terms of the detail. in terms of details being
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talked about two us media, those familiar with the case saying the former president is being charged with falsifying business records in the first degree and that is a felony under us law. i will take you back to the tarmac and show you the pictures there of the jet because in the next little while, the former president will get on board the jet as he heads towards new york. a sort of familiar talking but one of the charges of a felony under us law. but talk of potentially more than 30 charges. according to one legal expert the detail in those charges may explain why we have seen this indictment on thursday. so much of that detail we will learn in the court, but that rather terms ahead so i will bring back our
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correspondent in florida watching what we are. barbara, the first moment in many moments over the next 24 hours that will make headlines right around the world.— right around the world. that's ri . ht. right around the world. that's right- there — right around the world. that's right. there were _ right around the world. that's right. there were many - right around the world. that's right. there were many many| right around the world. that's - right. there were many many cameras trained capturing every detail. there was a camera outside the gate as he exited. i counted 12 cars coming out of the gate and then various shots along the bridge, also an aerial shot that will track his movements to the airport where you have already seen his plane on the tarmac. when he gets to new york, there will be cameras capturing his every movement as he moves to trump tower where he is planning to spend the night. and of course the events actually happened tomorrow on tuesday when he goes to the courtroom. again huge media presence to record that. courtroom. again huge media presence to record that-— to record that. barbara let's go riaht to record that. barbara let's go right back _ to record that. barbara let's go right back to — to record that. barbara let's go right back to basics _ to record that. barbara let's go right back to basics for - to record that. barbara let's go right back to basics for people | right back to basics for people watching all around the world. we
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got there over the hush payments but explain why this is so significant and important. tt is explain why this is so significant and important.— explain why this is so significant and important. it is it significant because this _ and important. it is it significant because this is _ and important. it is it significant because this is the _ and important. it is it significant because this is the first - and important. it is it significant because this is the first time - and important. it is it significant because this is the first time a l because this is the first time a former us president has ever been charged with criminal activity. it is also significant because he is running for president again. so it crosses a thundery or a threshold in us history and it also means the coming months when mr trump will be campaigning have been thrown into uncertainty. —— boundary. the logistics of the campaign, whether he is on trial and what it means as to the republican representative, which he is running for, perhaps it will give him even more support than he would have otherwise had. and what it will mean if he is finally elected in the general election as someone who has perhaps been convicted. all of these things have
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made the coming elections very uncertain. , , , made the coming elections very uncertain-— made the coming elections very uncertain. , ,, , . , uncertain. dissing pictures as you talkin: to uncertain. dissing pictures as you talking to us _ uncertain. dissing pictures as you talking to us of _ uncertain. dissing pictures as you talking to us of the _ uncertain. dissing pictures as you talking to us of the convoy - uncertain. dissing pictures as you talking to us of the convoy going | talking to us of the convoy going past of donald trump's supporters. —— discussing. in terms of what we are likely to see is being decided as we are speaking but in terms of potential optics tomorrow, what are people anticipating? brute potential optics tomorrow, what are people anticipating?— people anticipating? we are anticipating _ people anticipating? we are anticipating that _ people anticipating? we are anticipating that he - people anticipating? we are anticipating that he will - people anticipating? we are anticipating that he will be i anticipating that he will be fingerprinted, possibly photographed in the way that people who have been invited routinely are, but of course it is not going to be routine because he will be surrounded by his secret service security detail which is why one of the reasons why there was such a long k travelling to the airport because that secret service security is travelling with him throughout. then he will appear
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before thejudge, at throughout. then he will appear before the judge, at that point but charges will be made public. they have not been yet. we just have a general idea about what the issue is and what the charges may be. then he will plead, according to his lawyer he will plead not guilty. his lawyer has also said that he will fight this in every way that he can. but we are not expecting, at this point, for him to make comments at the courthouse. of course, that could change because mr trump is famously unpredictable. the plan is for him to come back here to mar—a—largo and have public comments on tuesday night to his supporters in the media. basically to have a purse conference in prime time. slightly unfair for me _ conference in prime time. slightly unfair for me to _ conference in prime time. slightly unfair for me to ask— conference in prime time. slightly unfair for me to ask this _ conference in prime time. slightly unfair for me to ask this of - conference in prime time. slightly unfair for me to ask this of you . conference in prime time. slightly| unfair for me to ask this of you but what is the general consensus in terms of the timeline that the prosecutors hope to actually complete this all by? we don't really have _ complete this all by? we don't really have a — complete this all by? we don't really have a sense _ complete this all by? we don't really have a sense of - complete this all by? we don't really have a sense of the - complete this all by? we don't - really have a sense of the timeline, actually. it is not quite clear when
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the trial would actually start and how long it would take. i think that is why it has thrown the election schedule into a bit of uncertainty. because once the trial schedule is there, people can plan around it but at this point people do not know. it also depends on the length of time that would have an impact on the different stages on how it would affect the election. flirt different stages on how it would affect the election.— different stages on how it would affect the election. of course what we don't know _ affect the election. of course what we don't know in _ affect the election. of course what we don't know in terms _ affect the election. of course what we don't know in terms of- affect the election. of course what we don't know in terms of the - we don't know in terms of the politics is how all of this affects all of that. politics is how all of this affects all of that-— all of that. that is true. the olitical all of that. that is true. the political team _ all of that. that is true. the political team around - all of that. that is true. the political team around mr . all of that. that is true. the - political team around mr trump is trying to capitalise on this because it means it may give him a boost in the election or in france. in fact it is already raised $5 million, they say based on the indictment, based on the way that they are treating it calling it political persecution saying that he is a
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victim and targeted by democrats. that has responded so far. he has also had a number, tens of thousands of volunteers, republican volunteer sign—up, voter volunteer so it looks as if it is boosting his popularity or support amongst republican voters. so i think the first impact is going to be on the republican primary. will this give mr trump a boost to help him win the republican nomination? that is uncertain. the bigger question after that is how it will affect him in a general election. will the majority of us voters want him to return to office, or rather if he has been indicted, or rather if he has been indicted, or perhaps convicted, with a general voter would decide that they would vote against them. the voter would decide that they would vote against them.— vote against them. the point has been made _ vote against them. the point has been made over— vote against them. the point has been made over what _ vote against them. the point has been made over what we - vote against them. the point has been made over what we have i vote against them. the point has i been made over what we have seen over the last four or five days after this indictment is to energise
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his base but one republican strategist was making the obvious point which is that on current polling, he is below 50% in terms of the general public support. he needs to get over that 50% and candy with all of this? in the background? we don't all of this? in the background? - don't know, basically but we can look at the past year or so. he has lost support from republican leading independents and some independence we saw that in the midterm election results. and a lot of that was connected to the attack on capitol hill onjanuary the connected to the attack on capitol hill on january the 6th connected to the attack on capitol hill onjanuary the 6th and his role in that which has been investigated by a congressional committee. so the question then becomes, would sympathy for him over this court case, with the view that the court cases pool size, one that he is pushing, one that the district attorney is denying, would that become prevalent? with that then change peoples minds? or is the bigger picture of his actions in

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