oui’ most embarrassing time in our country's history in my opinion. then our give up on energy independence and even energy independence and even energy dominance, we are going to be dominant in six months, more than any other nation times to. we had this alljust three years ago, our raging crime statistics, if you look in democrat run cities, numbers the likes of which we have never seen before, the open threat by various countries of the use of nuclear weapons, something never mentioned or discussed by outside nations during the trump administration in which could very well lead under the biden administration's leadership, two and all out nuclear world war three, two and all out nuclear world warthree, it two and all out nuclear world war three, it can happen. we are not very far away from it, believe it or not. an economy that has been crippled by the

biggest inflation we have seen in more than 60 years and a military that i used to defeat isis in four weeks, they said it would take four years. four weeks. to kill al—baghdadi and sol amini, that has now gone awoke at the top levels to try to indoctrinate everyone down to indoctrinate everyone down to the lowest ranking patriot but now they have really stepped up their efforts by indicting the 45th president of the united states, who received... the united states, who received. . ._ the united states, who received... ~ , �* m received... crowd: boo! more votes than _ received... crowd: boo! more votes than anyone _ received... crowd: boo! more votes than anyone in _ received... crowd: boo! more votes than anyone in the - votes than anyone in the history of our country. and in the wings they've got a local racist democrat district attorney in atlanta who was doing everything in or her power to indict me over and

absolutely perfect phone call, even more perfect than the one they made with the president of ukraine, remembera kid saying that's a perfect call. this one was more perfect. nobody said sir, you shouldn't say that. many people have inaudible , at the end of the call we agreed to continue our conversation about election fraud, and election fraud specifically in georgia at a later time.— specifically in georgia at a later time. specifically in georgia at a latertime. , , ., later time. many people on the -hone later time. many people on the phone including _ later time. many people on the phone including lots _ later time. many people on the phone including lots of - phone including lots of lawyers, nobody found anything wrong with a perfect call and tell a book promotion to many months later, all of a sudden they say i remember trump making a call, let's look at that. this fake case was brought only to interfere with the upcoming 2024 election and it should be dropped immediately. immediately.

it should be dropped immediatel . immediatel . ~ , immediately. immediately. crowd cheers. immediately. immediately. crowd cheers- then _ immediately. immediately. crowd cheers. then you _ immediately. immediately. crowd cheers. then you have _ immediately. immediately. crowd cheers. then you have a _ immediately. immediately. crowd cheers. then you have a radical. cheers. then you have a radical left lunatic— cheers. then you have a radical left lunatic known _ cheers. then you have a radical left lunatic known as _ cheers. then you have a radical left lunatic known as a _ cheers. then you have a radical left lunatic known as a bomb - left lunatic known as a bomb thrower harassing my people pay after day known as the boxes hoax, as we call it, just so everyone knows a come under what is known as the presidential records act which was designed and approved by congress long agojust was designed and approved by congress long ago just for this reason. underthe congress long ago just for this reason. under the act, congress long ago just for this reason. underthe act, i'm supposed to negotiate with the national archives and records administration, which as of this date is a radical left troublemaking organisation that red flags the constitution of the united states and the bill of rights as dangerous and triggering, can you imagine? this is what we have to deal with. but there is no criminality under the

presidential records act. this is not what it is all about. we were negotiating in very good faith in order to return some or all of the documents that are openly and in very plain sight brought with me to mar—a—lago from our beautiful white house just as virtually every other president has done in the past. when fbi and d0] officials were here, i've told my lawyer to show them the very secure storage room in which they were locked. the fbi's request and writing was could you please put another lock on the door. we immediately complied. it's a lot different than the biden situation, isn't it? the next thing i'm no we were raided by many gun toting

fbi agents who took whatever they wanted including my passports and medical records. everybody was in shock, nobody had ever heard of such a raid before. can't even believe it, who would think that could happen today? we who would think that could happen today?— who would think that could happen today? we have been listenin: happen today? we have been listening in — happen today? we have been listening in there _ happen today? we have been listening in there to - happen today? we have been listening in there to donald . listening in there to donald trump speaking after this historic day where he was arraigned in a court in new york, this is the first time he has been speaking since that arraignment, facing 34 counts of criminal charges in new york and we heard the former president of course repeating some of the false claims that the 2020 election was stolen but he also did speak about this case, apparently very carefully. some on the script, some of the script and that is something you want to talk about with katty and brian here in the studio because both of you were watching this and saying in part this is a campaign speech, on script and

of script. what did you hear that stuck out to you? i think with trump. _ that stuck out to you? i think with trump, after— that stuck out to you? i think with trump, after having - with trump, after having listened to donald trump now at least since 2015 when he announced he was running for president you sort of get to know when he is reading the prompter because there is a certain way he does it, it is more stilted and controlled. the cadence of it is a little flatter, actually, and when he goes off script, he is more energised and more energetic and he needs of the crowd a little bit more. and here i think as we are listening to him now you can tell the energy and the room collapses a bit, that mightjust be the way the microphones are set up, we might not be hearing the feedback from the crowd but he likes most to go off script. he likes most to go off script. he likes to rest, he likes to feel the energy and to feed to the energy. he likes to give it back and in this case it is a bit more tricky for him to do because his lawyers will have said to him, you have to be a bit more care. be so going off script is hard for him to do in

this context but this feels like a campaign rally, doesn't feel like want to you as well? it very much does, you are 100% right, _ it very much does, you are 100% right, when_ it very much does, you are 100% right, when he is reading the energy— right, when he is reading the energy level is usually not the same — energy level is usually not the same as— energy level is usually not the same as opposed when he is off script. _ same as opposed when he is off script. but— same as opposed when he is off script, but you canjust see it, script, but you canjust see it. this _ script, but you canjust see it. this is _ script, but you canjust see it, this isjust the list of the _ it, this isjust the list of the greatest grievances, adding another— the greatest grievances, adding another one to that list and i suspect— another one to that list and i suspect we will hear a speech in 3- — suspect we will hear a speech in 3- four_ suspect we will hear a speech in 3— four months with respect to georgia, adding that george wanted — to georgia, adding that george wanted as long list of grievances. but sort of fits in the narrative that these guys have — the narrative that these guys have been coming after me and ultimately four years. now we need — ultimately four years. now we need to— ultimately four years. now we need to win more than ever. he did also need to win more than ever. he: did also speak about this current indictments i want to bring in david as well to ask you, david kelly, we were speaking before donald trump started to teach, we were asking you what he might need to have to do there to be careful in what language he uses. what did he do there, was he careful?— he careful? what they didn't care was _ he careful? what they didn't care was getting _ he careful? what they didn't

care was getting into - he careful? what they didn't care was getting into the - he careful? what they didn't| care was getting into the fact of getting into this particular case. for once he listened to his lawyers apparently, this is really a campaign speech where he talks about everything, which is whatever one is listening about today which is the indictment. he is avoiding all the important issues and then really using the opportunity here to make a campaign speech. this opportunity here to make a campaign speech.- opportunity here to make a campaign speech. as he at risk from the judge's _ campaign speech. as he at risk from the judge's warnings? - from the judge's warnings? well, i don't know if... it may be thejudge, it well, i don't know if... it may be the judge, it also could be his lawyers. but you also hear the dog whistle is too because anytime he 0uters the george soros line, is part of the whole far—right qanon theme. but it doesn't relate to the facts of this indictment. i just want to bring stephanie in on this and ask what you have made of what we have heard from

donald trump so far. we made of what we have heard from donald trump so far.— donald trump so far. we all said to the _ donald trump so far. we all said to the same _ donald trump so far. we all said to the same thing - donald trump so far. we all said to the same thing that| donald trump so far. we all i said to the same thing that we work in that he would be speaking very directly and strongly to his base and that is exactly what he is doing. is giving all of those coded messages that strike a chord with his supporters and he is just going to ride this out. he likes to present himself as aggrieved and he is personally aggrieved, we have an aggrieved country, we have in his estimation a country that is going to heck in a handbag because he is no longer president, and he is very disciplined about that message. very little else but definitely about that message and it is resonating with the people that are in the room and his supporters at home. brian, i'm

cufious supporters at home. brian, i'm curious because _ supporters at home. brian, i'm curious because as _ supporters at home. brian, i'm curious because as we - supporters at home. brian, i'm curious because as we said - supporters at home. brian, i'm curious because as we said youj curious because as we said you are the comms director for the trump transition team, we heard from some of our reporters that earlier today when we saw those still images of donald trump in court he was stony faced and didn't answer reporter's questions and we see him here describe what the stay has been like from your experience to donald trump? he like from your experience to donald trump?— like from your experience to donald trump? he woke up not understanding _ donald trump? he woke up not understanding what _ donald trump? he woke up not understanding what the - donald trump? he woke up not understanding what the full - understanding what the full charges were going to be so there was a tremendous amount of concern about what the entire was actually going to be. he had heard a lot from other people in the media about what they were about 34 is a lot so he woke up with that big question mark weighing over his head. as the day advanced, he was just quiet, sitting there, talking to staff, talking to lawyers, understanding the process a little bit better and i haven't had a chance to debrief with everybody post arraignment but my guess is just basing his mood and seeing what they have is that they

have two, the campaign has to feel that they are sort of winning this round because now you have, the republican party unified in opposition of this da and what he's doing, you have the former attorney general, the former democratic attorney general of new york andrew cuomo even questioned the veracity of this case and then you have public opinion that says that is a political hack job. that says that is a political hackjob. i think at the end of the day his feeling this is probably as best as he could get out of it and public opinion is on his side and he's going to keep pushing forward because he is winning the new cycle. because he is winning the new cle. ., . , cycle. you and they were speaking _ cycle. you and they were speaking before, - cycle. you and they were speaking before, a - cycle. you and they were speaking before, a week| cycle. you and they were - speaking before, a week ago, and you — speaking before, a week ago, and you at that point were saying _ and you at that point were saying that this was the weakest of the cases against donald — weakest of the cases against donald trump and it is probably worth— donald trump and it is probably worth reminding our view is that— worth reminding our view is that the _ worth reminding our view is that the fact that donald trump is being — that the fact that donald trump is being charged in the hushed medicates with stormy daniels doesn't — medicates with stormy daniels doesn't mean that there couldn't be further indictments

in the — couldn't be further indictments in the other investigations against _ in the other investigations against him but i wonder whether this charge today and the fact— whether this charge today and the fact that there has in so much — the fact that there has in so much media coverage, yesterday a plane _ much media coverage, yesterday a plane flying up and all of the hours that were spent by the hours that were spent by the press here on that means that— the press here on that means that even_ the press here on that means that even if there are indictments in the other cases that could be against donald trump — that could be against donald trump whether it takes some of the oxygen out of the balloon. does _ the oxygen out of the balloon. does it— the oxygen out of the balloon. does it slightly takes some of the wind out of that? we can ask that _ the wind out of that? we can ask that directly to david. does _ ask that directly to david. does that threaten other possible indictments down the road? — possible indictments down the road? it— possible indictments down the road? ., , possible indictments down the road? ., ., ., road? it has nothing to do with the other indictments - road? it has nothing to do with the other indictments down - road? it has nothing to do with | the other indictments down the road and i think we will see, each one is going to take its own path, each one has its own set of facts and law so i really don't think this has any impact on the other cases. i think there might be some thought and the prosecutors and the other cases about a wish he

hadn't gone first because this is a perception that this isn't the most important case this is not the most solid case and the others would like to go forward but at the same time, look. i think alvin bragg has found a case where, he has talked about the rule of law, this is their bread—and—butter, this type of case, these types of charges and are just so happens that the former president is the one who committed these types of violations and they should go forward but it doesn't impact these other cases in any meaningful way, these other cases in any meaningfulway, is these other cases in any meaningful way, is my estimation. meaningfulway, is my estimation.— meaningfulway, is my estimation. ., ., , estimation. maybe not legally but 'ust estimation. maybe not legally but just to _ estimation. maybe not legally butjust to follow-up, - estimation. maybe not legally but just to follow-up, do - estimation. maybe not legally butjust to follow-up, do you | but just to follow—up, do you think that the da was also weighing up the political of moving forward with this case? the political consequences of this case, there will be political consequences in any case you bring against the former president. this is somebody who has really thought he rises above the rule of law

and it is really important that alvin bragg is driven by the thought that the rule of law applies to everybody and it's his duty to enforce it, it's his duty to enforce it, it's his duty to enforce it, it's his duty not to look the other wayjust because of who it is and so i'd just think that each case needs to be looked at on its own merits and i don't see a spillover politically from one case to the other. stephanie, do you agree with that? i stephanie, do you agree with that? ., ~ stephanie, do you agree with that? . ~ ., , that? i agree. all of these cases will _ that? i agree. all of these cases will be _ that? i agree. all of these cases will be heard - that? i agree. all of these - cases will be heard separately. as far— cases will be heard separately. as far as — cases will be heard separately. as far as in the courtroom, they— as far as in the courtroom, they are _ as far as in the courtroom, they are all separate but politically, this is trump i think— politically, this is trump i think trying to string along a story— think trying to string along a story that he has been telling since — story that he has been telling since before he started to run, that _ since before he started to run, that the — since before he started to run, that the wild or irrational radical— that the wild or irrational radical left is out to get him and — radical left is out to get him and everyone else that like

him — and everyone else that like him he _ and everyone else that like him. he is going to continue that— him. he is going to continue that story— him. he is going to continue that story because it is a story— that story because it is a story that has been working for him _ story that has been working for him so— story that has been working for him. so outside of the courtroom i think that there will he _ courtroom i think that there will be an impact. why is it we have heard democrats so quiet on this case, president biden refusing to comment at all and all the other democrats lining up behind him to not issue any statement on this case? i don't think there is anything to be gained by democrats, to pylon at this point. i don't think you will find many democrats will find any redeeming qualities in the former president. if you talk to many democrats, you will probably hear them say that he should have been indicted years ago, so i don't think there is much to be gained. the democrats are hoping that alvin bragg has all his ducks in a row. find

hoping that alvin bragg has all his ducks in a row.— his ducks in a row. and is able to make a _ his ducks in a row. and is able to make a good _ his ducks in a row. and is able to make a good go _ his ducks in a row. and is able to make a good go of -