going to continue him. he is going to continue that— him. he is going to continue that story— him. he is going to continue that story because it is a story— that story because it is a story that has been working for him _ story that has been working for him so— story that has been working for him. so outside of the courtroom i think that there will be _ courtroom i think that there will be an impact. why is it we have heard democrats so quiet on this case, president biden refusing to comment at all and all the other democrats lining up behind him to not issue any statement on this case? i don't think there is anything to be gained by democrats, to pylon at this point. i don't think you will find many democrats will find any redeeming qualities in the former president. if you talk to many democrats, you will probably hear them say that he should have been indicted years ago, so i don't think there is much to be gained. the democrats are hoping that alvin bragg has all his ducks in a row. find

hoping that alvin bragg has all his ducks in a row.— his ducks in a row. and is able to make a _ his ducks in a row. and is able to make a good _ his ducks in a row. and is able to make a good go _ his ducks in a row. and is able to make a good go of - his ducks in a row. and is able to make a good go of this - his ducks in a row. and is able l to make a good go of this case. there is no sense in speculating about it as a democrat. we stay in arm's length away and that the prosecutor do his thing. we're auoin to prosecutor do his thing. we're going to pick _ prosecutor do his thing. we're going to pick up _ prosecutor do his thing. we're going to pick up on _ prosecutor do his thing. we're going to pick up on that - prosecutor do his thing. we're going to pick up on that point| going to pick up on that point injust a moment but going to pick up on that point in just a moment but we heard donald trump speaking earlier, touching on a number of points. a list of grievances that he detailed in a speech and we want to bring in the babysitting expect the bbc�*s anthony zurker. babysitting expect the bbc's anthony zurker.— babysitting expect the bbc's anthony zurker. what did you find? ithink_ anthony zurker. what did you find? i think an _ anthony zurker. what did you find? i think an airing - anthony zurker. what did you find? i think an airing of - find? i think an airing of grievances is a great way to describe it. talking about the two impeachment cases brought against them. the russian investigation with federal council. all that is familiar territory for anyone who's followed donald trump over the years but he did kind of pivot into more of a traditional campaign speech, to take

advantage of this national spotlight. where all the major cable news networks up looking this up to criticisejoe biden and talk about why he thinks is bad for america, and he thinks is campaign and movement is what america needs but i was at a trump rally a couple of weeks ago and a lot of what he said today sounded very familiar. donald trump has been saying on the campaign trail up until now. . ~' the campaign trail up until now. . ~ , ., the campaign trail up until now. . ~ . the campaign trail up until now. . . ., now. thank you so much for checking — now. thank you so much for checking in _ now. thank you so much for checking in on _ now. thank you so much for checking in on that - now. thank you so much for checking in on that for - now. thank you so much for checking in on that for us. l now. thank you so much for checking in on that for us. i | checking in on that for us. i want to bring it back into the studio. brian, what do you make what we heard from anthony? this airing of grievances? it’s this airing of grievances? it's stunning. _ this airing of grievances? it�*s stunning, actually. i got a message from a friend of mine, a moderate, who thinks the speech is awesome. clearly the message is working, what he's trying to say, us against them. it is clearly hit a note, this

guy was a never trumper and he sent me a message, how can you get involved in the campaign was to mark this effect is bleeding into the broader republican party. all the oxygen for any other candidate whojumps into oxygen for any other candidate who jumps into the oxygen for any other candidate whojumps into the race. that is my suspicion for the next four months.— four months. this has been very aood in four months. this has been very good in terms — four months. this has been very good in terms of _ four months. this has been very good in terms of fundraising. i good in terms of fundraising. we don't _ good in terms of fundraising. we don't know the exact numbers. they raised $7 million since _ numbers. they raised $7 million since he _ numbers. they raised $7 million since he was indicted, which is significantly more than was raised _ significantly more than was raised in _ significantly more than was raised in the weeks after his campaign announcement was made. they'd _ campaign announcement was made. they'd been sending out those $47 campaign please 40 search with a _ $47 campaign please 40 search with a fake mugshot on them so this is— with a fake mugshot on them so this is a — with a fake mugshot on them so this is a useful way for him not — this is a useful way for him not to— this is a useful way for him not to sustain the spotlight, checking with our producers, and — checking with our producers, and several of the cable television networks in the united _ television networks in the united states, they're running the in — united states, they're running the in its — united states, they're running the in its entirety which is free — the in its entirety which is free our— the in its entirety which is free our time by donald trump. he said —

free our time by donald trump. he said a — free our time by donald trump. he said a lot of area time, or yesterday— he said a lot of area time, or yesterday with his plane sitting _ yesterday with his plane sitting on the runway, today with— sitting on the runway, today with the _ sitting on the runway, today with the trip down to the da's office. — with the trip down to the da's office, into the courthouse. and — office, into the courthouse. and again with his speech. that is the _ and again with his speech. that is the kind _ and again with his speech. that is the kind of campaign money that costs _ is the kind of campaign money that costs an awful lot of money _ that costs an awful lot of money with another candidate. they _ money with another candidate. they can't— money with another candidate. they can't compete with this. | they can't compete with this. i want they can't compete with this. want to they can't compete with this. i want to bring anthony back in. the former resident is still speaking. what else have you been hearing?— speaking. what else have you been hearing? once again, he is talkin: been hearing? once again, he is talking about — been hearing? once again, he is talking about what _ been hearing? once again, he is talking about what he's - talking about what he's been talking about what he's been talking about what he's been talking about on the campaign trail stop what's interesting is that going into today, there was some concern there might be some surprises in this indictment, new details, new charges. i think maybe even some republicans have come down and defended donald trump over the past week. maybe a little concerned they might have gotten out. but in reality, what they are dealing with here, the fact that there were no new surprises. that's an

instance where donald trump is probably relieved right now. you just lost your picture there... we're hearing trump still speaking there. david, maybe we can come to you. do you agree with that assessment? that there is nothing new in this indictment that alvin bragg released today. i’m this indictment that alvin bragg released today. i'm not sure i agree _ bragg released today. i'm not sure i agree with _ bragg released today. i'm not sure i agree with that - bragg released today. i'm not sure i agree with that that. sure i agree with that that there is nothing new. what alvin bragg did was put together an indictment that is really, as i mentioned earlier, a really tightly woven quilt, that he covered all the possible bases, from the national inquirer to michael cohen, to all the people involved here. all of the evidence in a very tight way. it's going to be very hard to punch holes in that.- it's going to be very hard to punch holes in that. david, i'm auoin to

punch holes in that. david, i'm going to jump _ punch holes in that. david, i'm going to jump in _ punch holes in that. david, i'm going to jump in there - punch holes in that. david, i'm going to jump in there and - going tojump in there and interrupted briefly because it looks like he has wrapped up his speech, we'lljust listen to that for a moment. we see him just walking off the stage. the big crowds are cheering him on. this is quite an importantand cheering him on. this is quite an important and big show. the same music that he plays at his campaigns. it certainly think about this. it's a good way of him to money and get free our time on american cable television networks and it puts the other candidates in a tricky position because they can't be seen to do anything but in a sense of support the former president in this particular legal battle. how of a pivot from supporting him in this legal battle. it's far too

early for any of us to say. significantly more likely that donald trump wins the nomination for the white house. there are only three of them at the moment. there will be others whojump in, see how those debates go and how those campaigns go. the trump team, at least in the short—term, i imagine this feels like a good night for them. imagine this feels like a good night forthem. paradoxically night for them. paradoxically given that night forthem. paradoxically given that he is the first american president ever to be arrested and indicted and charged. we did listen to the entire speech but if i'm not wrong, it was about 30 minutes or so. what do you make of what he delivered, from what we heard at least? it's the grievance stuff but it's what connects to the campaign. image we are dealing with more than anything else is that in 2016 and 2015, you would call the networks interviews from his apartment. now he'sjust networks interviews from his apartment. now he's just going down the stairs and doing interviews. it's always

tailored around him. he sucks up tailored around him. he sucks up so much of the oxygen, it's hard for people to do. is literally walking less than 50 yards to a press conference out of where he lives. i guess one caveat would be, and we heard some criticism of this, is that really his campaign rallies turn out only to be a list of grievances and the world is against me, how does that play out over the course of the next year and four months? he definitely _ year and four months? he definitely has _ year and four months? he: definitely has to transition the message of, what this campaign is about the future. it has to be about the future but it gives him the opportunity to consolidate his base, to expand his gop base, to get a different look among independent voters who now see him as a recipient of political targeting. weirdly enough, is indicted but he is being viewed sympathetically which is something you usually don't

expect when somebody is indicted. expect when somebody is indicted-— expect when somebody is indicted. ~ . ~ ., indicted. what you think of that, having _ indicted. what you think of that, having seen - indicted. what you think of that, having seen these i indicted. what you think of - that, having seen these images of this big crowd on him, the donald trump and as brian said, seems like it's an opportunity for him to expand his base. was this a successful night for him? i this a successful night for him? ~ , . , him? i think it definitely was a successful— him? i think it definitely was a successful night. _ him? i think it definitely was a successful night. he - him? i think it definitely was a successful night. he is - a successful night. he is surrounded by his most adoring fans were helping him to project the image of someone who has been wronged but is going to stand up and fight the good fight, notjust for himself but all his supporters as well. that is a way in which he tends to like to be seen, as a fighter, as someone who is up against huge odds and intends to come out on top. i don't know how much this will expand his base. but i do know is very

clear this is really solidifying his base behind him. , ., ., , solidifying his base behind him. i. ., , ., him. david, your thoughts on this from _ him. david, your thoughts on this from what _ him. david, your thoughts on this from what you _ him. david, your thoughts on this from what you saw? - him. david, your thoughts on this from what you saw? is i him. david, your thoughts on this from what you saw? is a | this from what you saw? is a cam spray — this from what you saw? is a cam spray -- _ this from what you saw? is a cam spray -- campaign - this from what you saw? is a cam spray —— campaign speech that— cam spray —— campaign speech that i_ cam spray —— campaign speech that i think— cam spray —— campaign speech that i think speaks to his base _ that i think speaks to his base it _ that i think speaks to his base. it does nothing to advance his cause inside the courtroom. it wasjust advance his cause inside the courtroom. it was just a political— courtroom. it was just a political flurry, the way a look _ political flurry, the way a look at _ political flurry, the way a look at it. like i said, he was very— look at it. like i said, he was very careful not to address the facts _ very careful not to address the facts of— very careful not to address the facts of this case, he did not do anything to jeopardise facts of this case, he did not do anything tojeopardise his defensive. i think that was, as much — defensive. i think that was, as much as— defensive. i think that was, as much as i_ defensive. i think that was, as much as i hate to say this, it was — much as i hate to say this, it was a — much as i hate to say this, it was a thoughtful way to approach this by him. it was a careful— approach this by him. it was a careful tap _ approach this by him. it was a careful tap dance, if you will. you — careful tap dance, if you will. you talk _ careful tap dance, if you will. you talk to bit about the campaign fundraising. the numbers raised, the numbers for donald _ numbers raised, the numbers for donald trump. just since the indictment. where do things go for year? —

indictment. where do things go foryear? -- indictment. where do things go for ear? , ., for year? -- when things go from here? _ for year? -- when things go from here? the _ for year? -- when things go from here? the next- for year? -- when things go | from here? the next hearing for year? -- when things go i from here? the next hearing is december. tote from here? the next hearing is december-— from here? the next hearing is december. we won't know what the actual _ december. we won't know what the actual numbers _ december. we won't know what the actual numbers are - december. we won't know what the actual numbers are until - the actual numbers are until the actual numbers are until the next filing, results have to come in the end of this quarter. i don't know where this goes. i suspect, given the nature of 24— hour television, has been so much saturation coverage of this over the last two days. i suspect the appetite for much more coverage of this nature will die pretty quickly and if there isn't any particular development in the legal case, there really won't be much more news around this until december. i think the focus will start to shift back in a legal context to the mar—a—lago documents case and the georgia case, potentially the georgia case, potentially the january six case. it could be that we hear more from other cases. it's even possible that one of those of cases, were they to lead to an indictment,

could come to trial before this one ever sees the light of day in a courtroom. we may not hear much more. we will hear it out on the campaign trail because he will use this as have just heard, a preview of the kinds of things he will say about it. it's going to be interesting. at what stage the other republican candidates, someone like ron desantis particularly, feels like they can criticise donald trump.— feels like they can criticise donald trump. feels like they can criticise donald trum. ~ . ., i. ~' donald trump. what do you think this means _ donald trump. what do you think this means his _ donald trump. what do you think this means his campaign? - donald trump. what do you think this means his campaign? she i this means his campaign? she makes a good _ this means his campaign? she makes a good point. this may die down— makes a good point. this may die down a _ makes a good point. this may die down a bit but the way he came — die down a bit but the way he came out— die down a bit but the way he came out at it today and mitt romney— came out at it today and mitt romney from utah is no donald trump — romney from utah is no donald trump fan, he voted twice to convict — trump fan, he voted twice to convict donald trump and he came — convict donald trump and he came out— convict donald trump and he came out and said he thought that— came out and said he thought that the — came out and said he thought that the da in this case was stretching the law, that it was a politically motivated case. so when _ a politically motivated case. so when donald trump goes to bed at— so when donald trump goes to bed at night, he thinks about

mitt — bed at night, he thinks about mitt romney on the cyberduck mitt romney on the cyberduck mitt romney on the cyberduck mitt romney is on his side, the republican party party writ large — republican party party writ large is _ republican party party writ large is on his side and the more — large is on his side and the more they follow ranks behind him, _ more they follow ranks behind him. the — more they follow ranks behind him, the harder it is for anyone, _ him, the harder it is for anyone, whether it is ron desantis or any of the other candidates to come out and directly— candidates to come out and directly criticised stop because they are criticising the entirety of the republican party— the entirety of the republican party and support. is going have — party and support. is going have an _ party and support. is going have an advantage debit rings may— have an advantage debit rings may die — have an advantage debit rings may die down a bit. maybe interesting to see our other candidates try to rest that spotlight back. another night of prayer time for donald trump, _ of prayer time for donald trump, because of his actions, dominated _ trump, because of his actions, dominated the headlines. even if it wasn't necessarily the most _ if it wasn't necessarily the most favourable light, it still was donald trump, everyone talking — was donald trump, everyone talking about him, no more oxygen— talking about him, no more oxygen left in the room politically. oxygen left in the room politically-— oxygen left in the room oliticall. �* , . politically. and “ust a quick response from h politically. and just a quick response from you? - politically. and just a quick response from you? 2016, | politically. and just a quick. response from you? 2016, he felt there was a new cycle constantly every three days, something you would pop up,

this has the potential of being stale and old but i guarantee you, trump is thinking about how to keep it interesting and exciting. and i think that is the sort of invisible hand here. you have a guy who is a media with and he is thinking about how to dominate the coverage on the controversial tweets is usually the way to do it. . ., . tweets is usually the way to do it. what a remarkable and interesting _ it. what a remarkable and interesting 24 _ it. what a remarkable and interesting 24 hours - it. what a remarkable and interesting 24 hours it - it. what a remarkable andj interesting 24 hours it has been, the past two days really as we see donald trump arraigned on criminal charges. the first former president to everface criminal the first former president to ever face criminal charges in new york earlier today, just returning to amenoni nasilasila and delivering a speech to a huge crowd of supporters and republican lawmakers. certainly a lot we will be covering and unpacking in the coming days. we will be covering that continuously on bbc, thank you to my guests and we will come back to you in just a little bit. and please

do stay with us on bbc, don't forget you can go to our website for all the latest information and update on those headlines, thanks for watching. live from washington. this is bbc news, welcome to viewers on pbs in america. hello, i'm sumi somaskanda. it's been a historic day here in the us, donald trump has been arraigned at a court in new york. he is now officially the first former us president to ever face criminal charges. we have been watching the scene in mar—a—lago. where we've been hearing from former president donald trump as he made his first public comments after pleading not guilty to 34 criminal charges at a court hearing in new york. he's accused of falsifying business records. we've been watching as he has addressed a large crowd at his residence there in florida. here is some of what he's said.

the only crime that i have committed is to fearlessly