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stay with us on bbc, don't do stay with us on bbc, don't forget you can go to our website for all the latest information and update on those headlines, thanks for watching. live from washington. this is bbc news, welcome to viewers on pbs in america. hello, i'm sumi somaskanda. it's been a historic day here in the us, donald trump has been arraigned at a court in new york. he is now officially the first former us president to ever face criminal charges. we have been watching the scene in mar—a—lago. where we've been hearing from former president donald trump as he made his first public comments after pleading not guilty to sa criminal charges at a court hearing in new york. he's accused of falsifying business records. we've been watching as he has addressed a large crowd at his residence there in florida. here is some of what he's said.
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the only crime that i have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those who seek to destroy it. from the beginning, the democrats spied on my campaign, remember that. they attacked me with an onslaught of fraudulent investigations. russia, russia, russia. ukraine, ukraine, ukraine. impeachment hugs number one, impeachment hugs number one, impeachment hugs number two. the illegal and unconstitutional raid on mar—a—lago right here. the laying through the courts, doj laying through the courts, d0] and fbi relentlessly pursuing republicans. the unconstitutional changes to election laws by not getting approvals from state legislators. the millions of votes stuffed into ballot boxes and all court on government cameras and just recently the
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fbi and d0] in collusion with twitter and facebook in order not to say anything bad about the hunter biden laptop from howell which exposes the biden family as criminals and which according to the pollsters would have made a 17 point difference in the election result and we needed a lot less than that, like about 16 .9. it would have been in ourfavour. not my favour, our favour, because our country is going to hell. . . , because our country is going to hell. . ., , hell. that was donald trump s-ueakin hell. that was donald trump speaking just _ hell. that was donald trump speaking just a _ hell. that was donald trump speaking just a short - hell. that was donald trump speaking just a short while l hell. that was donald trump i speaking just a short while ago in florida at his residence in mar—a—lago's copy let's go to michelle fleury in new york who is covering everything with the court proceedings. ijust want to get your take on what we heard in the scenes in new york and florida. it heard in the scenes in new york and florida-— and florida. it couldn't be more stark, _ and florida. it couldn't be
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more stark, we _ and florida. it couldn't be more stark, we had - and florida. it couldn't be. more stark, we had donald and florida. it couldn't be - more stark, we had donald trump here in the court room behind me and the typical provider we are used to seeing from him was absent. it was a more sombre donald trump that appeared in court here it you fast for a couple of hours he's in a ballroom, back and florida, his adopted home and this is the trump we are used to seeing, certainly in the political arena and this very much felt like a political speech. here he was right out the gate basically going after the democrats are saying they have been after me from the beginning, harking back to that 2020 election that he still feels was stolen from him and then he started to take aim at then he started to take aim at the district attorney alvin bragg, his wife and also, interestingly, he took aim at jack smith, the special counsel because you have to remember that while we are focused today on donald trump's legal problems here in new york, there are others whirling around in the background. you've got the special counsel jack smith who is looking into
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donald trump's role in the january six riots on the capital. you've also got him looking into the handling of secure documents that were seized in a raid on mar—a—lago and on top of that you've got a district attorney in georgia again who donald trump mentioned in his speech and she is looking into whether or not he interfered into the election, something donald trump referred to a short while ago as a perfect phone call, echoing the comments and posturing within before when he talked about phone call in the past involving ukraine. besides all of those _ past involving ukraine. besides all of those cases _ past involving ukraine. besides all of those cases of _ past involving ukraine. besides all of those cases of course, i all of those cases of course, the other investigations he is facing, this is the case where he is facing an indictment to give us an idea where things go from here because as we have heard there is not another hearing until december. know, and in that _ hearing until december. know, and in that time _ hearing until december. know, and in that time i _ hearing until december. know, and in that time i think - hearing until december. know, and in that time i think you - and in that time i think you are going to see lawyers from both sides preparing as much as they can. if you think to
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donald trump's legal team they are going to be focused on the emotions they are going to try to bring. willoughby for example to try to have the case dismissed outright? is it going to be about moving to another venue? donald trump has alluded to that in one of his post— today, saying staten island which is typically a more republican part of the city then perhaps the rest of the island manhattan is known as. wouldn't be better for the trail go there? so i think this is the sort of thing you might expect from his lawyers. in the case of alvin bragg we saw that statement of fact that was released today that told us a bit more about their case but they are going to try to flesh out more of that and try to build their case so a lot of work ahead but all eyes now on december and as thejudge work ahead but all eyes now on december and as the judge said trouble had to appear on that occasion as is the law for all defendants involved in new york terminal proceedings.— defendants involved in new york terminal proceedings. thank you so much michelle _ terminal proceedings. thank you so much michelle for— terminal proceedings. thank you so much michelle for your - so much michelle for your insight there from new york. and if you havejust
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insight there from new york. and if you have just been joining us we have our us special correspondent katty kay here and also formally communications director on donald trump's team so you have both been watching this entire day, just want to start again with your impressions of what we have seen today on this very historic day. i we have seen today on this very historic day-— historic day. i think michelle is riaht, historic day. i think michelle is right, donald _ historic day. i think michelle is right, donald trump - historic day. i think michelle is right, donald trump woke historic day. i think michelle i is right, donald trump woke up this morning not knowing what the charges were, he didn't know what was in that indictment and he was, those brief moments that we saw him travelling down to the courthouse, he looked stern, he looks, i don't know if angry is the word but he had a severe expression on his face as he walked into the courtroom and you see him now going into that ballroom which exactly the kind of environment he loves, chanting his name, chanting usa, having driven past crowds of people who had trump flags and big american flags and his
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backin and big american flags and his back in his environment and i think he and his legal team at least r saying that they don't believe that the charges will hold, that there isn't sufficient evidence to charge him with a felony on and that he can use this both to raise money and to go around the country on a kind of campaign series of rallies and you can hear him tonight practising some of the language that he is going to use. some of the language that he is going to use-— going to use. yes, this is definitely _ going to use. yes, this is definitely another - going to use. yes, this is definitely another thread | going to use. yes, this is l definitely another thread in the rally speech. but i'll look at the — the rally speech. but i'll look at the contrasting images that we had — at the contrasting images that we had earlier this morning trump _ we had earlier this morning trump arriving at the courthouse with a stern look, the sort — courthouse with a stern look, the sort of _ courthouse with a stern look, the sort of angry look to where he was — the sort of angry look to where he wasjust greeting the sort of angry look to where he was just greeting the crowd, it has— he was just greeting the crowd, it has been less than what, six hours? — it has been less than what, six hours? it — it has been less than what, six hours? it is _ it has been less than what, six hours? it isjust a completely different— hours? it isjust a completely different aura. by hours? it isjust a completely different aura.— different aura. by the way, trump rally _ different aura. by the way, trump rally speech - different aura. by the way, trump rally speech is - different aura. by the way, trump rally speech is can l different aura. by the way, l trump rally speech is can go different aura. by the way, - trump rally speech is can go on for a very long time, it could
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go on all night. let's bring in our other guests, they have been joining our other guests, they have beenjoining us through our other guests, they have been joining us through this evening as well so david, i want to come to you. just a reminder of yours, we have been talking a lot about what we might hear from talking a lot about what we might hearfrom donald trump. he was indeed careful, but what he said about this case? in fact he didn't speak about the indictment in this case. what other folks have said, indictment in this case. what otherfolks have said, this is a campaign speech, it is not a speech to defend himself, it is not a speech to undermine the charges of the case, it has nothing to do with the case, and everything to do with about his campaign, everything to do about the dog whistles he usually sends out to his base and really that's what it was all about. and really that's what it was all about-— and really that's what it was all about. ., ., ., all about. 0k, we are going to net our all about. 0k, we are going to get your take _ all about. 0k, we are going to get your take stephanie - all about. 0k, we are going to
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get your take stephanie in - all about. 0k, we are going to get your take stephanie in a l get your take stephanie in a moment but i want to go right to our reporter barbara plett—usher because she is at mar—a—lago, she has been covering the speech for us there tonight. we can see the room is empty there pretty much, we can see that it is full, there are cheering crowds there, what was the speech like? i there, what was the speech like? ., ., , ., like? i thought it was quite a short speech _ like? i thought it was quite a short speech by _ like? i thought it was quite a short speech by donald - like? i thought it was quite a i short speech by donald trump's standards and it was obviously sort of split screen with the court appearance today so he was back to his regular platform with his regular crowd and i think he seemed heartened ljy and i think he seemed heartened by their chairs and their claps but he also seemed pretty intense and angry still throughout the speech and he did talk about of course the investigation saying several times that it was aimed at interfering in the 2024 election and lashing out at the district attorney who brought about like some of your guests have been saying he didn't
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actually talk about it very much. he talked about other cases, he talked at some length about the case involving the classified documents that he brought from the white house here to mar—a—lago and got some good booing from the crowd about that. and he talked about the georgia case which is an investigation about whether he tried to overturned the election in that state so it's seems he is more concerned about those cases than this one. we heard a lot of the usual things he says when he is campaigning, so i'd agree with some of your commentators that it did sound a bit like a campaign speech and the crowd reacted like a campaign rally, so perhaps this is more of the kind of thing we're going to be hearing over the next months. we just talked to michelle in new york about the trail but where do things go for donald trump there in florida now? i
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think that he is going to be focusing on the campaign. 0bviously focusing on the campaign. obviously has legal team is going to be working through the indictment and coming up with a strategy about how to approach it but here in mar—a—lago he has got his political campaign team and as we have discussed they are going to try to capitalise on the indictment to whip up little support so i think they are going to continue with the schedule for the primary is, that that is the primary is, that that is the election of the republican nominee for president, they will continue with events and probably rallies, that will be i think the next thing on his plate. i think the next thing on his late. �* i think the next thing on his late, �* ., i think the next thing on his late. �* ., , i think the next thing on his plate. and barbara, “ust one more question _ plate. and barbara, just one more question before - plate. and barbara, just one more question before we - plate. and barbara, just one more question before we letj plate. and barbara, just one - more question before we let you go. what are the been like the last two days there reporting from mar—a—lago? to last two days there reporting from mar-a-lago?_ last two days there reporting from mar-a-lago? to put it into mrtrump's_ from mar-a-lago? to put it into mr trump's words, _ from mar-a-lago? to put it into mr trump's words, it _ from mar-a-lago? to put it into mr trump's words, it has - from mar-a-lago? to put it into mr trump's words, it has been i from mar-a-lago? to put it into mr trump's words, it has been a | mr trump's words, it has been a little bit surreal because it was a weighty time and we had heard that he and his and rises
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were taken aback by the advisers, they hadn't expect it to happen now and they thought it was going to be happening much later so they were kind of taken aback by it and had to digest it, so to speak, but then they started to present it as this, part of their campaign that could be used to whip up support so they became rather bullish about it but at the same time there wasn't a huge amount of support to be seen. you had dozens of people coming out with flags and statements on the bridge outside mar—a—lago and also other places but it wasn't like this surge of support you could actually see so it seemed like he was hunkering down in mar—a—lago and then he went out into the big bad to do his indictment and then came back here once again to his century and invited the supporters in. all right barbara, thank you so
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much for your reporting there from mar—a—lago tonight, really interesting to talk to you. we have been hearing about the charges donald trump has been facing. there are a lot and it is quite compensated that we want to take you through that one more time. donald trump pleaded not guilty to 34 charges of business fraud. all of the charges were related to falsifying business rep in the first degree. that is connected to several instances of hush money payments during donald trump's 2016 presidential campaign in an alleged attempt to cover up potentially damaging information, most prominently what we keep hearing about force as these $130,000 to the former porn star stormy daniels. we also heard about two other instances, $150,000 to an unidentified woman who alleged she had a sexual relationship with trump and $30,000 to a former trump tower doorman. he claimed to know a story about a
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child trump allegedly had out of wedlock which was determined to be untrue stopping donald trump is also accused of violating state and federal election laws and is accused of using what is called a catch and kill scheme to identify, purchase and very negative information and boots his electoral prospects. the charges were announced by alvin bragg, in his remarks trump referred to alvin bragg specifically saying that prosecution is election interference.— prosecution is election interference. . ., , prosecution is election interference. . ., interference. our elections are like those _ interference. our elections are like those of _ interference. our elections are like those of a _ interference. our elections are like those of a third _ interference. our elections are like those of a third world - like those of a third world country and now this massive election interference at a scale never seen before in our country beginning with the radical left george soros backed prosecutor alvin bragg of new york, who campaigned on the fact that he would get president donald trump. i'm going to get him, i'm going to get him. this is a guy campaigning.- get him. this is a guy campaigning. get him. this is a guy camaiuanin. g , ., get him. this is a guy camaiuanin. , , . ., campaigning. 0k. just want to
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net our campaigning. 0k. just want to get your reaction _ campaigning. 0k. just want to get your reaction to _ campaigning. 0k. just want to get your reaction to that - get your reaction to that because this is a theme we have heard from donald trump time again and how he has characterised alvin bragg in this case. physically i i was looking at my twitter feed to see how they were responding. the my twitter feed to see how they were responding.— were responding. the challenge coin: were responding. the challenge going forward — were responding. the challenge going forward for— were responding. the challenge going forward for alvin - were responding. the challenge going forward for alvin bragg, l going forward for alvin bragg, the district attorney. to try as far as possible to separate the political from the judicial. the challenge for american to do this. it must be seen as a legal process and not political but at the moment, and republican entirely political. and republican entirely political-— political. it's not only republican, - political. it's not only republican, it's - political. it's not only - republican, it's independent. they— republican, it's independent. they see _ republican, it's independent. they see this as a political process— they see this as a political process and that's not good. we should _ process and that's not good. we should not— process and that's not good. we should not be indicting the former— should not be indicting the former president and creating this political circus but this is where _ this political circus but this is where we are and this is the decision— is where we are and this is the decision the da made on the one thing _ decision the da made on the one thing i_ decision the da made on the one thing i will— decision the da made on the one thing i will say is, the trump world, — thing i will say is, the trump world, the _ thing i will say is, the trump world, the trump orbit does a
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really— world, the trump orbit does a really good job of pushing back against — really good job of pushing back against these things and creating mixed messages, disinformation. this will be another— disinformation. this will be another one of those examples. david, _ another one of those examples. david, your thoughts? in another one of those examples. david, your thoughts?— david, your thoughts? in the courtroom. _ david, your thoughts? in the courtroom, facts _ david, your thoughts? in the courtroom, facts matter. - david, your thoughts? in the i courtroom, facts matter. until recently, particularly in the way of the january six hearings, facts don't really matter, particularly when it comes to the base. so as much as we want alvin bragg to really focus on the judicial aspect of this, at the end of the day, there is going to be a set of facts that come out in the courtroom, it's really going to be important in that proceeding that how much of that really impacts the space and impacts the people outside the courtroom? i've lost confidence in how much that is really going to sway things. it is going to be incredibly difficult for the public watching this, who thinks it is
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a political persecution as opposed to a proper prosecution. it's going to be difficult to change their minds and that is really sad commentary the state of affairs in this polarised situation in the us. ,, , ., , ., in this polarised situation in the us. ,, , ., ., i] the us. stephanie, you agree? i auree. the us. stephanie, you agree? i agree- trump — the us. stephanie, you agree? i agree. trump does _ the us. stephanie, you agree? i agree. trump does a _ the us. stephanie, you agree? i agree. trump does a really - the us. stephanie, you agree? i| agree. trump does a really good 'ob agree. trump does a really good job framing for his supporters how— job framing for his supporters how they— job framing for his supporters how they should think about any trouble — how they should think about any trouble that he is in. he wanted _ trouble that he is in. he wanted to double down on some of those — wanted to double down on some of those messages that he's talked — of those messages that he's talked about before, that's why he was — talked about before, that's why he was talking about the fbi raid. — he was talking about the fbi raid, why he was talking about those — raid, why he was talking about those perfect calls. he frames it and — those perfect calls. he frames it and repeats it and repeats it and repeats it and repeats it until — it and repeats it and repeats it until his supporters are willing _ it until his supporters are willing to basically regurgitate those same lines to anyone — regurgitate those same lines to anyone who will listen. they are devoted to his message and he is _ are devoted to his message and
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he is committed to continue that— he is committed to continue that line _ he is committed to continue that line of attack, to make sure — that line of attack, to make sure that _ that line of attack, to make sure that is really knocking down — sure that is really knocking down any other republican that stands — down any other republican that stands on his way. i am sure that— stands on his way. i am sure that ron _ stands on his way. i am sure that ron desantis and nikki haley— that ron desantis and nikki haley were looking at this press _ haley were looking at this press conference and just shaking _ press conference and just shaking their head because they are thinking to themselves, here — are thinking to themselves, here we _ are thinking to themselves, here we go again stop thank you to all— here we go again stop thank you to all of— here we go again stop thank you to all of our guests, will come back— to all of our guests, will come back to — to all of our guests, will come back to all— to all of our guests, will come back to all in just a few moments. back to all in “ust a few moments._ back to all in “ust a few moments. �* ., ., ., moments. around the world and across the _ moments. around the world and across the uk, _ moments. around the world and across the uk, this _ moments. around the world and across the uk, this is _ moments. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc - across the uk, this is bbc news.
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he waved to crowds but made no comment. no video cameras were allowed inside the courtroom during his appearance but we have the still photos. this was around an hour later. he left the courthouse from there and boarded a private plane bound for amenoni nasilasila, several hours later, just for 7pm local time, he touched down. here, greeted by supporters as he drove to his home in mar—a—lago. the former us president was allowed to speak about his case. i want to come back to the studio. we were talking about the fact that there has been so much attention paid to donald trump over the last two days. is that surprising to see that we are all still so captivated by his every move and this is a significant moment, the first time a former us president has
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ever been indicted on criminal charges. ever been indicted on criminal charaes. ., , ., , charges. clearly a very important _ charges. clearly a very important historic - charges. clearly a very - important historic moment in the moment when he went to the courthouse was history making. i'm not sure that endless video of a plane sitting on a tarmac with pictures of baggage handlers taking baggage of its history making. nothing was happening, we werejust happening, we were just watching the plane but for donald trump, it was incredibly important because the world's attention, and it wasn'tjust us networks, networks around the world are covering this, there is a spectacle and circus that travels with donald trump that travels with donald trump that he loves. i've seen the photographs, on my phone. what the television screens were like. he was sitting there on the plane, watching the world watching him, which is great campaign publicity for him. it felt like 2016 all over again, the networks covering him. the
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ratings — the networks covering him. the ratings are _ the networks covering him. the ratings are great, the fundraising comes in. if you look— fundraising comes in. if you look at _ fundraising comes in. if you look at what the day started like. — look at what the day started like. it — look at what the day started like, it could have been a very bad _ like, it could have been a very bad day, — like, it could have been a very bad day, horrible images we could — bad day, horrible images we could have seen. probably breaking fundraising records as we speak. breaking fundraising records as we seak. , , ~ we speak. does this feel like 2016 all over _ we speak. does this feel like 2016 all over again _ we speak. does this feel like 2016 all over again to - we speak. does this feel like 2016 all over again to you . we speak. does this feel like 2016 all over again to you as| 2016 all over again to you as well, stephanie? absolutely. i ra that well, stephanie? absolutely. i pray that some _ well, stephanie? absolutely. i pray that some more - well, stephanie? absolutely. i. pray that some more interesting news comes up so that the american news networks won't be so desperate to cover these controversies. he is good for them. if there is anyone who knows how to make lemonade out of lemons, it's donald trump. i'm sure he walked into the courtroom, probably with the sickness in the pit of his stomach, trying to see if there is going to be anything new that he wasn't expecting and once there wasn't, he was off to the races stop it feels very
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similar to what happened before and i'm just hoping we are smart enough not to give him the unowned media.- smart enough not to give him the unowned media. david, “ust to net the unowned media. david, “ust to get yourfi the unowned media. david, “ust to get your thoughts * the unowned media. david, “ust to get your thoughts on i the unowned media. david, just to get your thoughts on this, i to get your thoughts on this, as a former attorney for the southern district of new york, how difficult is it for alvin bragg's office to focus on this case, as we just heard from the panel, he has been able to grab our attention and continues to do so, even if —— even when it comes to this case and charges. when you are a prosecutor, you have blinders on and everything like this speech tonight is white noise, you focus on what you need to do in the courtroom and i'm sure the prosecutors are doing that and will go forward and present the evidence. the end of the day, looks like a very compelling case. what donald trump has been subjected to so far is a political world that he has
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manipulated handling. ithink this was the first case of what is going to find in a courtroom which is an entirely different world stop you maybe able to manipulate the messaging on the outside of the courtroom but when he gets inside, you won't be able to do that. this is the first case and there may be others, in georgia, then the federal cases on the document manipulation, the classified documents, and injanuary 16. documents, and in january 16. is documents, and injanuary16. is going to be a different story to him and difficult to overcome that avalanche of courtroom proceedings. we've talked about _ courtroom proceedings. we've talked about what _ courtroom proceedings. we've talked about what happened, l talked about what happened, let's look at what happens next. a case like this one could take many months to process so let's look at some key dates ahead. may nine is the deadline for prosecution to file evidence and then it is the turn of trump's legal team among later on the 8th ofjune.
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0nce among later on the 8th ofjune. once that is done, his lawyers have until the 8th of august to file any motions including a possible request to dismiss the case altogether. september 19 is the deadline for prosecution to respond to any of those motions and december four, to respond to any of those motions and decemberfour, the key day when the judge will rule on the motions. by the time we get to december, we are weeks away from voters casting their ballots in the republican primaries. ii their ballots in the republican primaries-— primaries. if you wanted to drop something _ primaries. if you wanted to drop something right - primaries. if you wanted to drop something right into l primaries. if you wanted to i drop something right into the political timetable in the united states, you would make sure you have a court hearing around an indictment for the only form of president and presidents of candidates whose been charged in historyjust weeks before the iowa caucus which will be wide open on the republican side. i which will be wide open on the republican side.— republican side. i don't think there will— republican side. i don't think there will be _ republican side. i don't think there will be enough - republican side. i don't think. there will be enough reporters to cover— there will be enough reporters to cover everything later this year~ — to cover everything later this ear. ~ , ., y year. we will try our very best. thank _ year. we will try our very best. thank you - year. we will try our very best. thank you to - year. we will try our very best. thank you to our i year. we will try our very - best. thank you to our guests. david and stephanie as well. as we said, a remarkable day. we've been watching donald
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trump speaking at mar—a—lago and we will continue to cover this story for you right here on bbc. hello there. at this time of year, with light winds and a little bit of shelter, you can just start to feel the strength of the sunshine, but clear skies overnight can still lead to substantial frost. we have —6 celsius in parts of 0xfordshire first thing on tuesday morning, lots of blue sky and sunshine stayed all day, and in kew gardens by the middle of the afternoon, 15 celsius was the high — very nice indeed. the story is changing, though, and it's because of these frontal systems that are pushing in from the north—west. the clearest of the skies over the next few hours will be in the south—east corner here. touch of light, frost possible, but with outbreaks of rain developing and more cloud around, it is going to be a much milder start to the day. but there will be some wet weather around, moving its way out of scotland, pushing into northern england and across wales.
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showery rain to begin with, but another batch of wet weather will start to move in by the middle part of the afternoon. so, clouding over, but it should stay dry in east anglia for much of the day. highs here of 13 degrees. there'll be some showery outbreaks of rain and some heavier bursts pushing into wales and north—west england. a brighter afternoon, though, to close out the day in northern ireland and western scotland as the weather fronts start to drift their way steadily eastwards. still staying relatively mild for the time of year, that rain still has to clear away eastwards, and as it does so, well, we'll see clearer skies and temperatures will be a little bit lower out to the west by thursday morning. but thursday morning, we'll see that rain easing away, and then a little ridge of high pressure will slowly start to build in from the west and quieten things down. so, yes, a cloudy, grey start across eastern areas, a few scattered showers remaining as we go through the day, but an improving picture.
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there will be some sunshine coming through. there will be some light winds still coming from a northwesterly direction on thursday, so that will make it feel just that little bit fresher. temperatures are likely to peak between 8—13 celsius. now, as we move out of thursday into the start of the long easter weekend, high pressure is set to build in for a couple of days at least. these weather fronts trying to push in from the atlantic, but they will take their time in doing so. so, not a bad start to the easter weekend — dry, settled and sunny before the risk of some rain arrives slowly but surely for easter sunday afternoon. take care.
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