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live from london — this is bbc news... the warmest of welcomes forjoe biden — he addresses the irish parliament, only the fourth us president to do so. we believe anything is possible we set her mind to it and we do it together. this is the united states of america and ireland, there's nothing beyond our capacity if we do it together. l115 nothing beyond our capacity if we do it touether. ,, ., nothing beyond our capacity if we do it touether. ,, . ., , nothing beyond our capacity if we do it touether. ,, . . , ., it together. us media names the man the sa it together. us media names the man they say lead — it together. us media names the man they say lead to _ it together. us media names the man they say lead to highly _ it together. us media names the man they say lead to highly classified - they say lead to highly classified documents on the americas worst intelligence breaches. more protest, more protests with police as anger continues to raise france's pension age. aunt mary quandt, the
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revolutionary fashion designer has died. welcome to bbc news. president biden is finishes address to the parliament in ireland. parliament in ireland. is that political violence should never be allowed to take hold again. mr biden is on a tour of the republic of ireland haven't visited northern ireland on wednesday to mark the 25th anniversary of the good friday peace agreement. mr biden entered the chamber, he was met with rapturous applause in open his speech by saying, when he is in ireland he feels he is at home. he said his country was shaped by
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ireland, highlighting the shared values between the two nations before praising ireland's role in internationalforeign before praising ireland's role in international foreign policy. president kennedy said 60 years ago and i quote, "ireland pursues an end of pendant course in foreign policy but it is not neutral between liberty and tyranny and it never will be. thank you for that. the us president then _ will be. thank you for that. the us president then went _ will be. thank you for that. the us president then went on _ will be. thank you for that. the us president then went on to - will be. thank you for that. the us president then went on to speak. will be. thank you for that. the usi president then went on to speak of unity in achieving goals in the future. ~ , ., , , future. we believe anything is ossible future. we believe anything is possible when _ future. we believe anything is possible when we _ future. we believe anything is possible when we set - future. we believe anything is possible when we set our- future. we believe anything is| possible when we set our mind future. we believe anything is - possible when we set our mind to it and we do it together. this is the united states of america and ireland, there's nothing beyond our capacity if we do it together. it would gotta believe that, we got to know that because that's the history of both our countries. this is about defending the values handed down to us by our ancestors without keeping the flame of freedom inherited b cannot connect guide our children and grandchildren. it's a struggle
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we were fit to fight together. now hi tonight how is ireland and the united states? now is their time to beat every child together. i really mean this. to raise together, to rise up in ourjoys and our triumphs. to preserve together and persevere through sorrows and setbacks but to dream together on horizons we can't see. ice setbacks but to dream together on horizons we can't see.— horizons we can't see. joe biden there. horizons we can't see. joe biden there- let's _ horizons we can't see. joe biden there- let's go _ horizons we can't see. joe biden there. let's go live _ horizons we can't see. joe biden there. let's go live to _ horizons we can't see. joe biden there. let's go live to our - horizons we can't see. joe bidenl there. let's go live to our ireland correspondent. emma, this is a deeply moving and quite an emotional speech from joe biden. it deeply moving and quite an emotional speech from joe biden.— speech from joe biden. it was, he covered a lot _ speech from joe biden. it was, he covered a lot of _ speech from joe biden. it was, he covered a lot of ground. - speech from joe biden. it was, he covered a lot of ground. it - speech from joe biden. it was, he covered a lot of ground. it started off as a very warm, very relaxed speech. he was able to crack a few jokes, he had a very warm welcome in the introduction before he started talking. should biden was told you are among friends here, you are one of us. he very much continued that theme about how important his irish
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links were to him. also the wider context of americans with irish ancestry, he said the americans with irish ancestry have been the backbone of building america's civilisation. he talked about the way his own great—grandfather i got on a boat, set sail for america and that barack 0bama is great—grandfather it turns out had set sail on a very similar crossing a few weeks before. and it wasn't a coincidence that the two grandsons to want to become us presidents. you might�*ve thought that was a bit of irish malarkey. moving on from the symbolism of his own irish history, he did cover a lot of political ground for talked about ukraine and thanked ireland for taking in 80,000 ukrainian refugees, commended ireland very much for that saying they were in example to other countries. he thanked ireland for standing alongside the us and standing alongside the us and standing up to russian oppression, standing up to russian oppression, standing against the russian invasion of ukraine. he got onto the
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economy too. as you say, emphasising the potential of the two countries working together, talking about the irish companies that are set up and invested in the united states and us companies that are based here in ireland. a lot of what he said will have gone down very well with those listening in the irish parliament. many points he demonstrated his understanding of irish history was the history of oppression in many ways that has sort of helps shape the irish psyche today for the particular news talk about refugee and ireland's generosity in bringing in so many ukrainian refugees was up he said ireland remembers, ireland understands fulton understands what it is like to have to flee around country. of course many people in fled during the famine which led to this mass emigration over to the united states. he said ireland understands what that is likely that we also reference the troubles in
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northern ireland and the 25 years of peace that he was marking when he visited belfast a couple of days ago. a lot of ground covered. a lot emotional, a lot reaching back into the past but also look into the future. it's probably no surprise that he got a great round of applause there at several points during that speech for the aytekin went down very well. bier? during that speech for the aytekin went down very well.— during that speech for the aytekin went down very well. very much so. he soke went down very well. very much so. he spoke about _ went down very well. very much so. he spoke about his _ went down very well. very much so. he spoke about his trip _ went down very well. very much so. he spoke about his trip to _ went down very well. very much so. he spoke about his trip to northernl he spoke about his trip to northern ireland, belfast in the last 48 hours really emphasise the importance of peace. he describes peace as precious needing champions. exactly. he was pretty blunt about his words and referencing the current political situation in northern ireland. whether it's currently no government, no power—sharing working at stormont at the moment. that's one of the trip reason it was much shorter than it might�*ve been and he didn't go to
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stormont, the devolved government there. he said the american companies that want to invest in northern ireland but they are cautious because of the political instability. another notch to the parties to say, look at the rewards if you are able to get power—sharing back up and running. he also said very clearly he thinks that the uk and ireland could work together more in future. another nudge, as a friend as he puts it about some hints and to show even more clearly that he is very keen for power—sharing to get restored in northern ireland. this power-sharing to get restored in northern ireland.— power-sharing to get restored in northern ireland. this for him, he made it quite _ northern ireland. this for him, he made it quite clear _ northern ireland. this for him, he made it quite clear was _ northern ireland. this for him, he made it quite clear was as - northern ireland. this for him, he made it quite clear was as much l northern ireland. this for him, he j made it quite clear was as much a political trip as it was in economic and trade trip. he's brought with him the economics envoy, joe kennedy the third to really talk about the importance of us investment. exactly. he did talk about the
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economics of there's quite a lot. when it comes to the condo potential there is far ireland and the us working together very closely in the future. i think that message will been heard in the houses today. it would have been heard in northern ireland where people are under no illusions that political uncertainty does not create great circumstances for investment. and it can be more potential in future. he emphasised the fact that when a place is doing better economically that helps you build the peace, helps to build prosperity. very clear about the message of support that the us still has for the situation in northern ireland and ford's overall ties between america and the republic of ireland. ., between america and the republic of ireland. . ., ~ ,, . between america and the republic of ireland. . ., ~ . ., ireland. emma, thank you so much for brinuain us ireland. emma, thank you so much for bringing us up — ireland. emma, thank you so much for bringing us up today. _ ireland. emma, thank you so much for bringing us up today. we _ bringing us up today. we are following things very closely in ireland. we are expecting president joe biden to go to dublin castle for an official banquet for that we will
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be bringing you those live pictures. let's go to arlington because the pentagon is holding a news conference are leaked classified documents from the pentagon. you are listening to pat writer, the general two press secretary bringing us up—to—date. two press secretary bringing us up-to-date-— two press secretary bringing us u-to-date. . . , ~ , up-to-date. have a listen. austin are secretary _ up-to-date. have a listen. austin are secretary of _ up-to-date. have a listen. austin are secretary of defence - up-to-date. have a listen. austin are secretary of defence of - up-to-date. have a listen. austin are secretary of defence of the i are secretary of defence of the pentagon. leaders discuss the strength of the us — lafayette defence relationship and ongoing efforts to support ukraine. they also discuss shared security in europe including nato's deterrence and defence posture ahead of the july nato summit in belize. staying on your for july nato summit in belize. staying on yourfor a moment, next july nato summit in belize. staying on your for a moment, next week secretary austin will travel to sweden to be with his counterpart to discuss security related topics shared by our two nations. from there he will travel to germany where he and chairman of thejoint chiefs of staff will host in in person meeting on april 21 of the ukraine defence contact group at ramzi air force base. this will be
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the 11th meeting since this vital form was formed one year ago. the secretary and the generaljoint minister of defence and senior military officials from nearly 50 nations around the world to discuss the ongoing crisis in ukraine and to continue our close coordination in providing ukrainian people with the means necessary to protect themselves against russia's unprovoked and illegal aggression. as we highlighted before, the contact group is been instrumental in identifying, synchronising and ensuring delivery of the military capabilities the ukrainians need to defend their homeland. 0n capabilities the ukrainians need to defend their homeland. on a semi—related note, at the end of this multi—are concerned army national guard 39th infantry gay combat team will replace the new york army nation old guards 27 infantry brigade combat team and assume command of the joint multinational training group for ukraine in germany. the 27th infantry brigade combat team took charge of the gmt gu during a transfer of authority ceremony in
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august of 2022, becoming the first and only unit and its eight—year history to assume the unit mission for a second time. we look forward to the arrival of the 39th and the continuation of the important work to provide ukraine with what it needs in terms of training to defend itself. with that i will be happy to go with your questions.— itself. with that i will be happy to go with your questions. thank you can ou go with your questions. thank you can you confirm _ go with your questions. thank you can you confirm that _ go with your questions. thank you can you confirm that the _ go with your questions. thank you can you confirm that the airman i can you confirm that the airman first class — can you confirm that the airman first class member of the massachusetts it the night air guard is a person— massachusetts it the night air guard is a person of interest in the sleek documents — is a person of interest in the sleek documents case?— documents case? first of all, as i mentioned. _ documents case? first of all, as i mentioned, there _ documents case? first of all, as i mentioned, there is _ documents case? first of all, as i mentioned, there is an _ documents case? first of all, as i mentioned, there is an ongoing l mentioned, there is an ongoing criminal investigation into anything related to that. i'll need to refer you to the doj or fai. can related to that. i'll need to refer you to the d0] or fai.— related to that. i'll need to refer you to the d0] or fai. can you speak at all to if anyone _ you to the d0] or fai. can you speak at all to if anyone has _ you to the d0] or fai. can you speak at all to if anyone has reached - you to the d0] or fai. can you speak at all to if anyone has reached out i at all to if anyone has reached out to this _ at all to if anyone has reached out to this ir— at all to if anyone has reached out to this irvan? at all to if anyone has reached out to this ir van? do you know where he is? there _ to this ir van? do you know where he is? there are — to this ir van? do you know where he is? there are reports that law enforcement are closing in on its
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location — enforcement are closing in on its location poza has everyone be able to reach _ location poza has everyone be able to reach out to him?— to reach out to him? again, i appreciate — to reach out to him? again, i appreciate the _ to reach out to him? again, i appreciate the question - to reach out to him? again, i appreciate the question but l to reach out to him? again, i - appreciate the question but given that this is an ongoing investigation i am not going to be able to talk about the investigation orany able to talk about the investigation or any potential doj action. i would refer ou or any potential doj action. i would refer you to — or any potential doj action. i would refer you to them. _ or any potential doj action. i would refer you to them. in _ or any potential doj action. i would refer you to them. in the _ or any potential doj action. i would refer you to them. in the days - or any potential doj action. i would j refer you to them. in the days after the leaks _ refer you to them. in the days after the leaks came to life, what steps have doj — the leaks came to life, what steps have doj taken to reduce the number of people _ have doj taken to reduce the number of people who have access to not only these — of people who have access to not only these classified briefings but classified material in general? we continue classified material in general? continue to classified material in general? - continue to review a variety of factors as it relates to safeguarding classified materials this includes examining and updating distribution lists, as is and where intelligence is shared in a variety of other steps. i would say it is important to understand that we do have stringent guidelines in place for safeguarding sensitive and classified information. this was a deliberate criminal act, a violation of those guidelines and again, but
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it's important that instead we will continue to ensure that people have a need to know when it comes to this year due to my information have access to that. we are always going to learn from every situation. again, this is something that we will continue to look out for that you are taking steps to tighten that population who might have access to this level of information? that's accurate. we continue to review the lesson update them and make sure there is a need to know. let me emphasise my that this was a... we have rules in place, each of us signed a nondisclosure agreement, anybody that has a security clearance and all indications are again, this was a criminal act, a willful violation. another reason why we are continuing to investigate and support the department of justice is investigation. [30 and support the department of justice is investigation.- justice is investigation. do you have a sense _ justice is investigation. do you have a sense that _ justice is investigation. do you have a sense that this - justice is investigation. do you have a sense that this is - justice is investigation. do you have a sense that this isjust i justice is investigation. do you i have a sense that this isjust the have a sense that this is just the act of—
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have a sense that this is just the act of one — have a sense that this is just the act of one individual and even if so, wouldn't members of his chain of command _ so, wouldn't members of his chain of command also be held accountable for this last _ command also be held accountable for this last information? | command also be held accountable for this last information?— this last information? i don't want to speculate _ this last information? i don't want to speculate or— this last information? i don't want to speculate or get _ this last information? i don't want to speculate or get a _ this last information? i don't want to speculate or get a head - this last information? i don't want to speculate or get a head of - this last information? i don't want to speculate or get a head of the l to speculate or get a head of the doj investigation. we need to allow that to run its course. i would refer you to them.— that to run its course. i would refer you to them. two questions, one to clarify _ refer you to them. two questions, one to clarify in — refer you to them. two questions, one to clarify in doj _ refer you to them. two questions, one to clarify in doj is _ refer you to them. two questions, one to clarify in doj is efforts - one to clarify in doj is efforts to change — one to clarify in doj is efforts to change the way you do business in terms _ change the way you do business in terms of— change the way you do business in terms of protecting classified information, of part from the stuff you do— information, of part from the stuff you do already, is that dod led or joint _ you do already, is that dod led or joint staff— you do already, is that dod led or joint staff led? who is directing what _ joint staff led? who is directing what on — joint staff led? who is directing what on that? the second question, hypothetically, i know you like hypotheticals. if somebody was to be change, _ hypotheticals. if somebody was to be charge, what would determine whether the military— charge, what would determine whether the military would charge and indict and carry— the military would charge and indict and carry out the legal process against — and carry out the legal process against a — and carry out the legal process against a person or people or doj? 0n against a person or people or doj? on your— against a person or people or doj? on your latter question, you are right, we don't want to get into
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hypotheticals. as always in every case isjudged on its own merits. we need to allow this investigation to run its course. of course they will be more to say on that. on your first question, it's important to understand that this is notjust about dod, this is about the us government, about how we protect and safeguard classified information. as i highlighted, we do have strict protocol in place for them anytime there is an incident, any time there's an opportunity to review that every find it we are of course going to take advantage of defence as you've heard her say, secretary austin has been convening meetings with senior leaders to include chairman to talk about her viewing the scope and the impact of this and also to look at mitigation measures and what we need to do across the department of defence to ensure that we are doing our utmost to reinforce
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existing policies, procedures and rules. if there are any areas where we need to tighten things up we certainly will. that is correct. when i say dod iv the department of defence for the across the entire enterprise. 0k? defence for the across the entire enterprise. ok? you defence for the across the entire enterprise. 0k?— enterprise. ok? you say there are strict protocols — enterprise. ok? you say there are strict protocols in _ enterprise. ok? you say there are strict protocols in place _ enterprise. ok? you say there are strict protocols in place in - enterprise. ok? you say there are strict protocols in place in yet - enterprise. ok? you say there are strict protocols in place in yet a i strict protocols in place in yet a 21—year—old airman was i able to access— 21—year—old airman was i able to access some of the nation's top secrets — access some of the nation's top secrets how did this happen it isn't this a _ secrets how did this happen it isn't this a massive security breach? again, — this a massive security breach? again, we — this a massive security breach? again, we need to allow the investigation to run its course. we will of course no more when that is completed. i would refer you to doj on that. ~ ., , completed. i would refer you to doj on that. ~ . , i. completed. i would refer you to doj onthat. ~ . , completed. i would refer you to doj on that. ~ . , ., on that. what is your message to an one on that. what is your message to anyone who _ on that. what is your message to anyone who might _ on that. what is your message to anyone who might be _ on that. what is your message to anyone who might be thinking . anyone who might be thinking of leaking — anyone who might be thinking of leaking these kind of documents in the future? we leaking these kind of documents in the future? ~ ., , , the future? we have procedures, we have protocols _ the future? we have procedures, we have protocols in _ the future? we have procedures, we have protocols in place _ the future? we have procedures, we have protocols in place with - the future? we have procedures, we have protocols in place with up - the future? we have procedures, we have protocols in place with up we i have protocols in place with up we receive regular training on the proper handling of classified information, as i mentioned, we signed nondisclosure agreements.
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those rules are very clear and anyone who has security clearance knows that. anyone who violates those rules is doing so willfully. can you put into context the damage that has _ can you put into context the damage that has been done by this lee? right _ that has been done by this lee? right now— that has been done by this lee? right now we are continuing to assess the scope and impact that his work that will be ongoing. haifa assess the scope and impact that his work that will be ongoing.— work that will be ongoing. how large was the distribution _ work that will be ongoing. how large was the distribution network - work that will be ongoing. how large was the distribution network for - was the distribution network for these _ was the distribution network for these documents prior to last thursday— these documents prior to last thursday when the disclosures came out? are _ thursday when the disclosures came out? are we — thursday when the disclosures came out? are we talking thousands of people _ out? are we talking thousands of people had axes inside the pentagon and outside the pentagon to include european _ and outside the pentagon to include european bases around the united states? _ european bases around the united states? |— european bases around the united states? ., �* ., ., , , , ., states? i don't have any numbers to rovide states? i don't have any numbers to provide you. — states? i don't have any numbers to provide you. as _ states? i don't have any numbers to provide you. as you _ states? i don't have any numbers to provide you, as you can _ states? i don't have any numbers to provide you, as you can sure - provide you, as you can sure appreciate the department of defence and all other components, its global enterprise doing work in all areas of world. certainly we have people who have access to information that they need to do theirjobs. i don't have any numbers for you. you they need to do theirjobs. i don't have any numbers for you. you say it was widespread _ have any numbers for you. you say it was widespread versus _ have any numbers for you. you say it was widespread versus outside - have any numbers for you. you say it was widespread versus outside the i
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was widespread versus outside the pentagon— was widespread versus outside the pentagon to other military installations?— pentagon to other military installations? , ., installations? the department of defence, which _ installations? the department of defence, which conduct - installations? the department of defence, which conduct global. defence, which conduct global operations. intelligence products, operational information products are shared with dod leaders and personnel globally throughout the world. whether it's a component command, whether it's in services the important thing to understand about classified information, it's not i want to have access because i have a clearance, it's all based on need to know. do you have a need to know that information? that typically will grant you access if you have the appropriate clearances. i'm still confused on the access issue — i'm still confused on the access issue you _ i'm still confused on the access issue. you said there were changes that were _ issue. you said there were changes that were made but you also said that were made but you also said that you — that were made but you also said that you are reviewing things. can you tell— that you are reviewing things. can you tell us, — that you are reviewing things. can you tell us, are there less people that have — you tell us, are there less people that have access to this type of information today then there were a week— information today then there were a week ago? — information today then there were a week a . o? �* ., information today then there were a week auo? �* ., �* information today then there were a week ao? �* . �* ., information today then there were a weekauo?�* . �* ., week ago? again, i'm not can you get down to numbers. _ week ago? again, i'm not can you get down to numbers. reviewing - down to numbers. reviewing distribution list, looking at who
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has a need to know, making sure those things are updated, doing due diligence in the wake of these unauthorised disclosures. i want to emphasise that this was a deliberate criminal act to violate those guidelines and rules. in the same way that if you lock your front door and somebody came into your house and somebody came into your house and took something, you follow your procedures and you lock your door but somebody went into your house and took something and put it out on the street, that is what were talking about here. aha, the street, that is what were talking about here.— the street, that is what were talking about here. a couple of questions _ talking about here. a couple of questions on — talking about here. a couple of questions on this _ talking about here. a couple of questions on this and - talking about here. a couple of questions on this and then - talking about here. a couple of. questions on this and then i have talking about here. a couple of- questions on this and then i have a follow— questions on this and then i have a follow on _ questions on this and then i have a follow on to— questions on this and then i have a follow on to something separate. why did it take _ follow on to something separate. why did it take so long to secretary about — did it take so long to secretary about the _ did it take so long to secretary about the leaks? he? he said he was briefed _ about the leaks? he? he said he was briefed on _ about the leaks? he? he said he was briefed on april six. would you classify— briefed on april six. would you classify that delay is a failure of the open — classify that delay is a failure of the open source intelligence teams? absolutely not. we were notified, the department became aware of the fifth, the secretary was briefed hours later in the morning of the six. i
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hours later in the morning of the six. ., �* u. , hours later in the morning of the six. ., �* _, , ., hours later in the morning of the six. ., �* , ., ., hours later in the morning of the six. , ., ., six. i don't consider that a delay. these documents _ six. i don't consider that a delay. these documents were _ six. i don't consider that a delay. these documents were available| six. i don't consider that a delay. - these documents were available long before _ these documents were available long before april five and six. what took so long _ before april five and six. what took so long for— before april five and six. what took so long for dod and the intelligence community to locate these documents? that's_ community to locate these documents? that's something the investigation will tell us. that said, i think it's important to remember that dod intelligence activities are primarily focused internationally. so to the extent that the department collects any information related to us persons, for example or gaming chat rooms, it would have to be conducted in accordance with the law and policy in a manner that protects privacy and civil liberties. we will know more. the combination of this investigation. know more. the combination of this investigation-— investigation. really quickly on the attacks from _ investigation. really quickly on the attacks from march. _ investigation. really quickly on the attacks from march. do _ investigation. really quickly on the attacks from march. do we - investigation. really quickly on the attacks from march. do we have i investigation. really quickly on the attacks from march. do we have a| attacks from march. do we have a final conclusion on the tbi assessments how many us troops received _ assessments how many us troops received tbi as a result of these attacks— received tbi as a result of these attacks was back do you believe the us strikes— attacks was back do you believe the
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us strikes that happened on 3—23, do you believe _ us strikes that happened on 3—23, do you believe they have deterred a running — you believe they have deterred a running of — you believe they have deterred a running of that group from targeting us forces? _ running of that group from targeting us forces? gn running of that group from targeting us forces? �* , ., us forces? on the tbi, i understand additional information _ us forces? on the tbi, i understand additional information is _ us forces? on the tbi, i understand additional information is been - additional information is been collected. we will get that to you and the press team here in terms of deterrence, where going to continue to do everything we need to do it at a time and place of our choosing to determine we are safeguarding our folks. i will leave it at that. thank you. folks. i will leave it at that. thank you-— folks. i will leave it at that. thank ou. ., , , ., thank you. can you 'ust tell us what the mission _ thank you. can you 'ust tell us what the mission of — thank you. can you just tell us what the mission of hundred _ thank you. can you just tell us what the mission of hundred and secondl the mission of hundred and second intelligence wing massachusetts... we are _ intelligence wing massachusetts... we are listening to the press secretary at the pentagon talking about the ongoing criminal investigation, pointing the finger of blame at the new york times reporting saying that the name of the alleged leaker is jack teixeira, a 21—year—old air marshal for the
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viewer listening to brigadier general pat ryder saying the department ofjustice is investigating this. there is an ongoing investigation and we are going to need that investigation to run its course. and we are assessing everything, including strict protocols that we need to put in place with up a lot of questions about how a 21—year—old could potentially access classified documents. let's bring in ryan hillsboro, ex—cia operations officer and expert on insider threats. thank you very much forjoining us on the programme. we are listening to the brigadier general pat ryder talking about the investigation. i suppose it does beg the question, if this is true and reuters news agency is actually reporting that he has come of this potential leaker has been arrested. the question is, how did a 21—year—old acts are such class classified information?
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21-year-old acts are such class classified information? whether it's the military or _ classified information? whether it's the military or the _ classified information? whether it's the military or the intelligence - the military or the intelligence community, they get a lot of a trust to their employees. all incoming employees are screened normally polygraph, if you are obtaining a secret clearance. anyone with a secret clearance. anyone with a secret clearance. anyone with a secret clearance has sworn an oath to defend the constitution, to keep classified information secret. there are three lifelong obligations for your security clearance. you need to safeguard and protect information. you need to report unauthorised disclosure disclosure of information for them if you publish anything if there needs to be prepublication review. because of the trust that is given in the background screening thatis given in the background screening that is done, often time peoples even young officers in the military and the intelligence community, they are going to be given access information because of that background screening that has been done and because we need them to be able to use their experience and
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expertise to fulfil different operational goals. the expertise to fulfil different operational goals. the thing that was raised in _ operational goals. the thing that was raised in the _ operational goals. the thing that was raised in the press - operational goals. the thing that i was raised in the press conference and what brigadier general pat ryder said was that any information is on a need to know basis. i suppose we are still getting more information about this potential leaker. and what he drove us. are you saying that anyone who has security clearance potentially has access to any of these documents? ha. clearance potentially has access to any of these documents?- any of these documents? no. it's something _ any of these documents? no. it's something called _ any of these documents? no. it's i something called compartmentalise information. even though you might have a top—secret sci security clearance it is only going to be in the area or it should only be in the area that you are working on. everything is compartmentalise. i do think the us government could do a betterjob of restricting classified information in more ways than one. in my personal and professional opinion it really begs the question,
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how will the us react and adapt to continued leaks? we need to be able to trust our employees. unfortunately, the polygraph is still the primary means of screening incoming government employees... which feels so old—fashioned now. it which feels so old—fashioned now. ft is. the polygraph, it's been around for 75 years plus. the only change is the computerisation of it in the 905. at best it's an interrogation tool. it's only as good as the calligrapher giving the polygraph. we really need to look for new deception detected in... aha, we really need to look for new deception detected in. . .- we really need to look for new deception detected in... a lot to un ack. deception detected in... a lot to unpack- ryan — deception detected in... a lot to unpack. ryan hillsboro - deception detected in... a lot to unpack. ryan hillsboro the - deception detected in... a lot to i unpack. ryan hillsboro the ex-cia unpack. ryan hill5boro the ex—cia talking you for giving us your analysis on this developing story. we are listening to regular general pat ryder at the pentagon talking about those pentagon leaks that have
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emerged in the last week. we will be bringing you the very latest on that. of course president biden5 trip to ireland. stayed with us. hello. after the 5tormy weather some of us had to endure yesterday, thursday things are a little calm. storm noel things are a little calm. storm noel, you can see here on our earlier satellite picture tending to break apart. still some shower clouds left behind. there are heavy showers out there. some of which will contain hail and thunder. smells of sunshine in between. still quite breezy for some, particularly through part5 quite breezy for some, particularly through parts of northern violent, northern england into the midlands and east anglia. not as windy a5 yesterday for the still feeling chilly, nine to 13 degrees with up as we head through the evening and tonight we will continue to see some shower5, bands of showers drifting acro55 shower5, bands of showers drifting across scotland and northern ireland. the archer into wale5, across scotland and northern ireland. the archer into wales, out of this rain band into the southwest of this rain band into the southwest of england, holding temperatures up
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to around 70 degrees in plymouth for the further north one5 to around 70 degrees in plymouth for the further north ones and three5, touch of prosperous arm. tomorrow low pressure 5till touch of prosperous arm. tomorrow low pressure still in charge. this rental system running across the south of the uk will bring some outbreak5 south of the uk will bring some outbreaks of rain, particular through 5outhern counties of england, clipping at the south wales, south midlands, some rain for a time in the channel islands and brisk wind. for the north studies bell5 brisk wind. for the north studies bells and showers for the pure in the afternoon we may see persistent rain developing acro55 part5 the afternoon we may see persistent rain developing acro55 parts of the midlands and up into parts of york shire and lincolnshire. temperature wise, ten, 12 degrees, no great shakes for this point in april. a5 shakes for this point in april. as we had through the weekend things begin to change. high pressure is going to tend to build. that will give more in the way of dry weather, it will give spell5 of sunshine and temperatures will start to pick up a little bit. a slightly warmer field to the weather. this is saturday, early mi5t to the weather. this is saturday, early mist and fog patches around. some patchy cloud a5 early mist and fog patches around. some patchy cloud as well but spell5
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of sunshine, more because generally rolling into northern iraq about maybe rain late in the day. temperatures starting to lift a little bit, 11 to 15 degrees as we head into sunday, split fortune5, there will be a lot of cough and northern ireland, part5 there will be a lot of cough and northern ireland, parts of scotland, maybe the odd shower. some studies bell5 acro55 maybe the odd shower. some studies bell5 across england and wales and also studies bell5 in northeast scotland, which could live temperatures to 70 degrees with up el5ewhere, highs of 14 to 17. a much warmer feeling today that we've been used to of late. that continues into the start of the new week. temperatures likely to be in the mid to high teen5 temperatures likely to be in the mid to high teens with a perhaps the low 205 for some with spell5 of sunshine.
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live from london. this is bbc news. the warmest of welcome5 forjoe biden — he addresses the irish parliament, only the fourth us president to do so. we believe anything is possible we set her mind to it and we do it together. this is the united states of america and ireland, there's nothing beyond our capacity if we do it together. us media names the man they say leaked highly classified documents on the americas worst intelligence breaches. more prote5t, more prote5t5 with police as anger continues to raise france's pension age.
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