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space for discussing big, thought—provoking, intellectual ideas? thought-provoking, intellectual ideas? ~ . thought-provoking, intellectual ideas? . ., , ideas? well, thanks for the layup cuestion. ideas? well, thanks for the layup question- it _ ideas? well, thanks for the layup question. it is _ ideas? well, thanks for the layup question. it is definitely - ideas? well, thanks for the layup question. it is definitely substack because the model supports that kind of thing. a typical social media models are trying to maximise attention and engagement and a peak in emotion. on substack, the model is different, we are trying to maximise money for writers so you try to demonstrate the quality of your board and the nuance of your board and engage in good faith discussions because that is what wins you long time subscribers who are willing to go with you on a relationship. 50 are willing to go with you on a relationship. sol are willing to go with you on a relationship. 50 i think substack is great for that. relationship. so i think substack is great format-— great for that. chris, would you like to see _ great for that. chris, would you like to see bbc _ great for that. chris, would you like to see bbc news _ great for that. chris, would you like to see bbc news for - great for that. chris, would you i like to see bbc news for example stop putting up posts on substack? sure, we would love that. == sure, we would love that. -- start ”uttin sure, we would love that. -- start putting pp- _ sure, we would love that. -- start putting up great. _ sure, we would love that. -- start putting up. great, i— sure, we would love that. -- start putting up. great, iwill_ sure, we would love that. -- start putting up. great, i will have a - putting up. great, i will have a word. thank you for talking to us this evening, chris best and hamish mckenzie and vivian schiller, he used to be at twitter. —— who used

to be. let's look at the front pages, the front page of the times. unions look set to reject the government's pay deal. also, the daily telegraph front page, deaths rise asjunior doctors go daily telegraph front page, deaths rise as junior doctors go on strike. and at the top, farewell, contrary mary. we will have our own tribute to mary ouant in a moment. the guardian dominated by a beautiful black and white photograph of mary quant. their main story, senior tories turn against suella braverman's racist rhetoric. and the fbi arrest 21—year—olds over the leak of defence documents. a guardsman in massachusetts arrested tonight on suspicious —— suspicion of leaking classified documents which laid bare military secrets and upset us relations with key allies. the ft, ernst & young warns uk arm of fresh cut backs after failure to

split. that is it for tonight, i will be back tomorrow, you can e—mail us at newsnight. before we 90, e—mail us at newsnight. before we go, as i said, mary quant, legendary fashion designer, died peacefully at her home this morning aged 93. sleek, streamlined and vibrant, the black—and—white images from 19605 news reels scarcely do justice to the transformational energy she brought to women's clothing that will never, ever go out of fashion. she was best remembered in sadie frost's 2021 documentary, quant. here's a reminder. goodnight. i think the point of fashion is to not get bored looking at somebody. the point of clothes should be one, that you are noticed, two, that you look sexy, and three, that you feel good. mary quant ltd, one of the most astonishing success stories in the world of fashion. she was an innovator, l she was a rule—breaker, she empowered women. # you know you make me want to shout...# english fashion has always been notoriously rebellious.

mary quant turned the miniskirt into a worldwide phenomenon. i think she started - the miniskirt, didn't she? youth, at the time, was about wearing something that older people didn't like. i can't say i particularly approve of some of the stuff. # oh, yeah, come on # throw your head back woooo # come on now # say that you love me # say that you need me...# i think he is also making it clear that he would like to participate in

the process of adopting international structures to their new reality, which explains why for example he and sis on increasingly avoiding the use of the dollar when articulating trade between brazil and china. how do you see the us reacting to all of this because mac notjust reacting to all of this because mac not just the economics reacting to all of this because mac notjust the economics of it, as you were talking about it there, but also the politics of it because mac will come of the united states continues to be important in latin america, but clearly brazil also utilises its deepening ties to china as a way to better manage a profoundly symmetric relationship with washington. i think during the trump administration the us has tried to reduce actively chinese influence latin america, has sought to convince other countries to stop using the chinese telecommunications firm. that has not worked. 50 there is clearly some concern because of the complementarity, the economic complementarity between latin

america and china. i think it will be quite difficult for the united states to retain its dominant role, which it has had in latin america over the past century. fascinating stuff. over the past century. fascinating stuff- oliver. _ over the past century. fascinating stuff. oliver, professor— over the past century. fascinating stuff. oliver, professor at - over the past century. fascinating stuff. oliver, professor at schooll stuff. oliver, professorat school of international relations. thank you so much forjoining us on newsday with your thoughts. thank ou ve newsday with your thoughts. thank you very much- _ around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. wow, look! it's, like, really weird that loads of people are going to see my art alongside all of these other artworks. it was crazy, like, seeing it in a frame and having the little thing beside it with, like, the name and my description that i wrote. atjust i4, chloe has won the rare chance to have a piece of her artwork displayed at the tate modern in london. she was named britain's best young

artist after she beat 26 other talented youngsters in the cbbc series of the same name. the winning piece is a self—portrait showing chloe wrapping her arms around her home in gateshead. i've lived in this house my whole life so i was like, "oh, well, my house makes me me, i grew up in my house — i learned how to draw in my house." in the painting, it's me hugging my european house. and in the background, it's the african savannah, showing my african heritage. her work is on display at tate modern until the end of the month. you're live with bbc news. when russia began its full scale invasion of ukraine, a second less visible battle in cyberspace got underway. as well as relentless attacks linked to cyber military, armies of vigilante hackers on both sides have caused chaos with websites taken down, private data stolen and broadcasts hijacked. the bbc�*s cyber correspondentjoe tidy travelled to ukraine to speak to those fighting in the cyberwar,

and found that the conflict has blurred the lines between cyber military and cyber criminal activity. from his flat in central ukraine, alexander devotes nearly all his spare time to hacking russia. he's one of the most prominent hackers in the it army of ukraine, a nearly 200,000 strong telegram group, which has been coordinating and celebrating disruptive cyber attacks for over a year. translation:. it's one of the ones i remember as the chesney�*s narcotic. it's the one product authentication system for the whole of russia. we found the target, discovered how it operated, and came up with a way to stop it. manufacturers couldn't ship products. the economic losses, i think, were pretty high. greetings, citizens of russia. large scale hacking by activists, or hacktivists, has been a major element of the cyber war

that few predicted. hello. we are the kill net hacktivist community. this is the leader of the 100,000 strong pro—russian hacking group called kill net. he wouldn't agree to a direct interview, but sent us this video before breaking off communication. we devote 12 hours a day to killnet because the main thing is to monitor the situation in the world. then our actions come. i see no equal in the world to russian hackers. this clip shows a killnet attack on a nato website. at ukraine's cyber defence ho. they deal with cyber attacks from all angles, but say vigilante attacks are getting more sophisticated. they accused the russian military of working directly with vigila nte groups. the russian authorities didn't reply to our emails, but kill milk denied his group is linked to any special services. however, it seems the lines between vigilante hackers and military hackers have been blurred elsewhere, too. roman started as a volunteer hacker, carrying out disruptive criminal attacks as a civilian.

now he's part of the cyber military. but even before he was recruited, he confirms his volunteer group did work with the ukrainian forces. |we were kind of synchronising our| operations and tried to help them. so they basically started to give us some targets and say _ what to do, when to do. mikaela fedorov is minister for digital transformation. as the full scale war broke out, his department controversially set up the telegram group for the it army of ukraine. do you think the lines have been blurred between what is and was criminal hacking, and what is now accepted and encouraged by the government? translation:. i am confident that we have the moral right to do everything to protect the lives of our citizens. some predict that the severity of attacks will increase as russia struggles on the physical battlefield. thankfully, this cyber war has proven to be less destructive than the physical war,

but the conflict is no doubt rewriting the rules of engagement online. joe tidy, bbc news in kyiv. fascinating report there. in other news for you today. in other news for you today. ghana has become the first country in the world to approve a new vaccine against malaria. it's a step forward in fighting a disease that kills thousands of children every year. the drug is considered to be the most effective of its kind that has ever been produced. it's seen as a vital step forward in the fight against a disease that still kills thousands of children every year. a severe storm has made landfall in western australia, bringing heavy rain and damaging winds. forecasters say cyclone ilsa is likely the most destructive storm to hit the state in more than a decade, with winds at its centre reaching nearly 200 kilometres per hour. many residents in the storm's path have already evacuated, while those remaining have been told to seek shelter in their homes. wendy mcwhirter brooks is deputy president

of east pilbara shire, and joins me from the town of marble bar, in the red emergency alert zone. in the first instance, wendy, i hope that you and your family and those that you and your family and those that are close to our say. were you affected and taking shelter overnight? what kind of damage is there where you are? what kind of damage is there where ou are? ., ~ what kind of damage is there where ou are? . ,, i. , what kind of damage is there where ou are? . ,, , . what kind of damage is there where ou are? . ~' , . you are? thank you very much. look, the winds have _ you are? thank you very much. look, the winds have not _ you are? thank you very much. look, the winds have not ended _ you are? thank you very much. look, the winds have not ended up - you are? thank you very much. look, the winds have not ended up being i the winds have not ended up being as high as we thought they would be where we are. i'm to the southeast of marble by tone on the cattle station. and we have found that it hasn't been as destructive winds as were expected. we had 62.8 mm of rain, which is largely welcomed. that will fill the rivers and cause some destruction to transport for a while, but it is not as destructive as it could have been, or we might�*ve expected. i

as it could have been, or we might've expected.- as it could have been, or we might've expected. as it could have been, or we miaht've exected. . . ., . might've expected. i am glad to hear that, and that _ might've expected. i am glad to hear that, and that things _ might've expected. i am glad to hear that, and that things aren't - might've expected. i am glad to hear that, and that things aren't as - might've expected. i am glad to hear that, and that things aren't as bad i that, and that things aren't as bad as they initially seemed. what are you expecting, and can you say in terms of the cyclones path going forward, what forecasters are telling you about the kind of weather you should expect and how people are preparing for this? yes. people are preparing for this? yes, the winds have _ people are preparing for this? yes, the winds have moved. _ people are preparing for this? is: the winds have moved. the cyclone centre has moved past marble bar, onlyjust in the past couple of hours. so the winds have changed from being more of an onshore wind now being wind out of the desert. so it will be a dryer wind, there will be less rain going forward, that will reduce as the day goes forward. 50 the water effect is going to be so the water effect is going to be less. we have open to evacuation centres in the towns of marble bar, and mela gone, and in union. and people have gone to this if they don't consider their own homes quite strong enough to extend the very heavy cuts that we are expecting. so

people look on there. they are well equipped with bedding, with food supplies, and entertainment and distraction for the people that might be up during the night. so, it's plenty of water supplies and plenty of food supplies are available, and there will be medical supplies close by as well. all of the people who are out in the desert communities who have may be medical conditions or who are frail age have been evacuated down to newman to shelter centres down at newman, so they are well accommodated. so we have a plan. we have a local emergency management plan to cater for this sort of event. so that was activated about three days ago. where there cyclone had crossed at the coast at a premier caravan park and recreation site, that was

evacuated on wednesday. and the ranger and the personnel that live there had moved to safety at marble bar and continued with the efforts to prepare marble bar. 50 —— it’s to prepare marble bar. so -- it's wonderful— to prepare marble bar. so -- it's wonderful to _ to prepare marble bar. so —— it's wonderful to hear that preparation has gone really well for you. i think it really shows the efforts that you have put in the past really coming to bear now. butjust briefly if you don't mind, in terms of the emergency response, how do you think it's gone? i emergency response, how do you think it's one? ~ emergency response, how do you think it's one? ,, . , emergency response, how do you think it's one? ,, ., , , it's gone? i think it has been very well handled. _ it's gone? i think it has been very well handled. by _ it's gone? i think it has been very well handled. by the _ it's gone? i think it has been very well handled. by the shire, - it's gone? i think it has been very well handled. by the shire, by . it's gone? i think it has been very| well handled. by the shire, by the department of fire and emergency services as well. they oversee us, and cooperation from all of the agencies. 50 there is a network of agencies. 50 there is a network of agencies. going forward, we are going to have road repairs that are going to have road repairs that are going to have road repairs that are going to be neat needing to be done. so those state roads need to be repaired but our own shire roads out in the desert communities. but service —— in the desert communities. but service "— in the desert communities. but service --— in the desert communities. but service --~ , �* , .,

in the desert communities. but service-- ,�* , service -- wendy i'm so sorry to cut ou off service -- wendy i'm so sorry to cut you off there — service -- wendy i'm so sorry to cut you off there but — service -- wendy i'm so sorry to cut you off there but that's _ service -- wendy i'm so sorry to cut you off there but that's it _ service -- wendy i'm so sorry to cut you off there but that's it for - service -- wendy i'm so sorry to cut you off there but that's it for our - you off there but that's it for our programme. thanks forjoining us on the programme. and thank you for joining us. please stay with bbc news. many of the showers many of the showers came from hastings, not too far away from kent. the rail heavy down paul which brought two cm of hail, which was reported. temperatures came down to about one celsius as well so sudden drop in temperatures about storm went through. at the moment we still have a few showers left over across scotland, but otherwise some clear spells around. a bit of rain starting to edge back into seven parts of wales. a chilly start to friday with temperatures one to

three degrees. this area of low pressure moves rain across southern wales, southern areas of england and then down into northern france. away from that for scotland and northern ireland it's another day of showers, the showers heavy with hail and thunder and some of them slow—moving as well. across england and wales thatis as well. across england and wales that is that low pressure moves into france it changes the wind flow and we got their zone of convergence with the winds bash together, a big line thunderstorms form. maybe we will get an odd final clown from that kind of area. whether sunshine comes out, even though temperatures will be below average everywhere, it won't feel too bad. cloudy, ten, 11 degrees, that's not going to feel too great. but into the weekend we go and the prospect is the weather is going to turn dryer, sunnier, and a deal warmer as pressure rises and we start to get these milder southerly winds blowing away across the country on saturday and into sunday as well. weather—wise, not a bad start of the weekend. most of us will see some spells of sunshine, a

few showers left over in england, and the threat of it turning a bit cloudierfor northern and the threat of it turning a bit cloudier for northern ireland and the threat of it turning a bit cloudierfor northern ireland into the afternoon, may a patch of rain and the extreme west. it is timely to get warmer and 50 degrees, given the light winds for glasgow and 15 degrees, given the light winds for glasco in london, it should feel pleasant in the sunshine. the emphasis is on a lot of dry and reasonably sunny weather i think for most of us on sunday. that said, a bit more on the way of cloud and western areas with an odd spot of light rain, temperatures climbing 15 in liverpool, manchester, 17 in london area, and that should be a pleasantly warm day. high pressure hangs around so a lot of pressure and april spells of sunshine but very brisk winds developing in the southeast towards the middle part of the week.

this is bbc news. we will have the headlines and all the main stories at the top of the hour as newsday continues straight after hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. there is no mistaking the deep sense of unease hanging over israel. the death toll in the conflict of the palestinians has surged in recent months just as israel's far—right