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live from london, this is bbc news. anger in paris as france's highest leual anger in paris as france's highest legal authority — anger in paris as france's highest legal authority says _ anger in paris as france's highest legal authority says controversial| legal authority says controversial reforms to the country cosmic pension system can go ahead. a21—year—old member of the us military appears in court charged with leaking secret government documents. and a large scale swap begins between them and's who the rebels and the saudi backed government. welcome back to the bbc news, i'm
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yelled to a large—scale prisoner exchange has begun between yemen's houthi rebels and the country's saudi—backed government. the international committee of the red cross says around 900 prisoners will be reunited with their families during the muslim holy month of ramadan. the detainees will be flown into and out of several cities in yemen and saudi arabia. the exchange has increased hopes of a peace deal between the two sides. earlier i spoke to a political analyst from yemen if he was hopeful analyst from yemen if he was hopeful a peace deal would be struck, have a listen. we a peace deal would be struck, have a listen. ~ . �* , ., , listen. we haven't seen any breakthroughs _ listen. we haven't seen any breakthroughs for - listen. we haven't seen any breakthroughs for the - listen. we haven't seen any breakthroughs for the past | listen. we haven't seen any i breakthroughs for the past few years. for now, for them to agree to sit around the same table and agree to prisoner swaps of this scale is a sign of good but also goes along way in terms of confidence building measures, and it could pave the way for reconciliation. {iii measures, and it could pave the way for reconciliation.— for reconciliation. of course, 'ust a reminderfi for reconciliation. of course, 'ust a reminderto i for reconciliation. of course, 'ust a reminder to our i for reconciliation. of course, 'ust a reminder to our viewers of h for reconciliation. of course, just a reminder to our viewers of the | for reconciliation. of course, just. a reminder to our viewers of the war been raging in yemen for the last
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eight years — anyone who has travelled or reported from yemen and has returned with these horrific images of children starving, a nation starving, the humanitarian crisis that ultimately needed a political solution. it crisis that ultimately needed a political solution.— political solution. it did, the thin . political solution. it did, the thin is political solution. it did, the thing is that _ political solution. it did, the thing is that for _ political solution. it did, the thing is that for a _ political solution. it did, the thing is that for a lot - political solution. it did, the thing is that for a lot of - political solution. it did, the thing is that for a lot of you | political solution. it did, the - thing is that for a lot of you may needs, including myself, we needed a humanitarian break —— for a lot of you manes. we have a huge chunk of the population in need of some age, two thirds are food insecure, we have no clean water or medicine, the basic necessities are gone, and the situation has rapidly been deteriorating because the un could not come up with funding to come up with aid in yemen, especially with the situation in ukraine now, all
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the situation in ukraine now, all the help has gone to ukraine. m50 the help has gone to ukraine. also the help has gone to ukraine. also the war in ukraine _ the help has gone to ukraine. also the war in ukraine has impacted yemen, because yemen was relying so much on ukrainian grain.— much on ukrainian grain. exactly, exactl ! much on ukrainian grain. exactly, exactly! even _ much on ukrainian grain. exactly, exactly! even then, _ much on ukrainian grain. exactly, exactly! even then, we _ much on ukrainian grain. exactly, exactly! even then, we relied - much on ukrainian grain. exactly, exactly! even then, we relied for| exactly! even then, we relied for about 30% of our grain coming from ukraine, and whatever we could buy off the black market, the prices skyrocketed under ukraine and we didn't have the funds for it. so it exacerbated the situation inside the country while in parallel, finding the governments like the uk and others was cut in half —— funding from the governments like the uk. you speak about this being a step towards goodwill, do you think the goodwill came when the president was essentially pushed out, than a council was established, almost like a peace council to try and meet the demands of the houthis?_ demands of the houthis? that's a very excellent _ demands of the houthis? that's a very excellent question _ demands of the houthis? that's a very excellent question and - very excellent question and observation. yes, you're absolutely right. there was some sort of limbo
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with the president — they shook things up with the plc, but also you have to remember that the saudis also shifted the macro shook things up also shifted the macro shook things up ljy also shifted the macro shook things up by a normalising relations with iran and now they are seeking an exit strategy from yemen, but they also want peace south of their border. with that momentum in place, now we are basically hedging our bets that there is some good prospects for a peace agreement in a few months. it is prospects for a peace agreement in a few monthe— few months. it is a competent situation though, _ few months. it is a competent situation though, because - few months. it is a competent situation though, because the i situation though, because the houthis control much of the north, which is where a lot of the population is, and that population is being denied access to banks, money, employment because again, it's controlled by the government which is in the south.— which is in the south. you're absolutely — which is in the south. you're absolutely right, _ which is in the south. you're absolutely right, this - which is in the south. you're absolutely right, this is - which is in the south. you're absolutely right, this is one | which is in the south. you're i absolutely right, this is one of which is in the south. you're - absolutely right, this is one of the reasons why the saudi use were in
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sanaa, and one of the things they were discussing was basically unifying the government — and i'm glad you mentioned the money, because one of the sticking points was unifying the central bank from the north, the government controlled areas. so it ensures that salaries areas. so it ensures that salaries are paid in a timely manner, while also ensuring freedom of movement across north and south, and other areas controlled by various factions, but also lifting restrictions from ports across yemen. we depend heavily on importing food and medicine, and with the current restrictions, they've slowed down those imports, complicating the situation on the ground. complicating the situation on the round. ., , ., i. complicating the situation on the round. ., , ., ,, ., ground. ultimately do you feel that the houthis have _ ground. ultimately do you feel that the houthis have the _ ground. ultimately do you feel that the houthis have the upper - ground. ultimately do you feel that the houthis have the upper hand i the houthis have the upper hand here? because this is a war that the saudis have attempted now to extricate themselves from, they want
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to get out of this, and now things are looking better with the iranians, they are finding a way to exit this. will yemen be left in the hands of the houthis? i exit this. will yemen be left in the hands of the houthis?— hands of the houthis? i very much doubt that, the _ hands of the houthis? i very much doubt that, the reality _ hands of the houthis? i very much doubt that, the reality is - hands of the houthis? i very much doubt that, the reality is they - doubt that, the reality is they don't have the upper hand, and this is why you've seen a lot of people, including myself, thinking if we don't tweak this peace agreement, it doesn't have a holistic and comprehensive approach — and let's not kid ourselves, the houthis are a bit of a brutal regime, silencing dissent, they're not very accommodating to the democratic processes. but again, in terms of breaking the deadlock, it's a step in the right direction. the yemeni government have been giving a lot of concessions to the houthis to come
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let's get more from chad sweet. can you hear me, chad? mt; let's get more from chad sweet. can you hear me, chad?— you hear me, chad? my sincere apologies. _ you hear me, chad? my sincere apologies. l— you hear me, chad? my sincere apologies, i was _ you hear me, chad? my sincere apologies, i was thinking - you hear me, chad? my sincere apologies, i was thinking you i you hear me, chad? my sincere| apologies, i was thinking you for the question. the bottom line is this will involve a significant after action report where significant questions will be asked about how he could have gotten this information. in the intelligence community, i served information. in the intelligence community, iserved in information. in the intelligence community, i served in the cia, as well, you compartment information and secure it through clearances, and secure it through clearances, and he clearly had greater access then he should've had at his age and right. if you look at the problem in the clearance process, you take someone like him, give him a one—time background investigation, the us government is backlogged on a number of our investigations and it takes a longtime — once it's done, that's a snapshot in time. we've advocated the chernoff group for continuous monitoring, clearly that broke down here and an improvement needs to be made. tell broke down here and an improvement needs to be made.— needs to be made. tell us about the
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clearance process _ needs to be made. tell us about the clearance process - _ needs to be made. tell us about the clearance process - how _ clearance process — how straightforward is it, how complicated is it? and as you say, because of a backlog, could that have impacted things, as well? you'll remember back when edward snowden had his leak, as well as bradley manning, the united states government has gone back on the background of a sufficient progress. when i was in the cia and dhs, this was something where it's been backlogged for years, and unfortunately it's done now only once every five years, and that frankly is not sufficient. there are things in place to improve that, but there needs to be a faster process and, more importantly, one of the things we do in the private sector where we advise corporations who are facing similar insider threat problems is to have continuous monitoring, and you do things like uba user —— uba, user behaviour analysis, look for signatures of
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anomalous behaviour, things like sending out large documents at peculiar times of day from people who wouldn't normally handle that level of data or collection. the second would be drm, digital rights management where you have tools to ensure not only the user is authenticated, but the documents themselves have encryption or other forms of security that prevent them from being forwarded outside of an authorised area.— authorised area. when you think about this particular _ authorised area. when you think about this particular case - authorised area. when you think about this particular case and i about this particular case and story, it appears that this young man is not some spy. but i was speaking earlier to a washington post reporter who has been tracking things back to this gaming website discord, he said they'd been describing the maker interviewing teenagers who described him as a fatherfigure, a role model— this is a 21—year—old man they were referring to as a role model they look up to. and these classified
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documents ended up here in the hands of some teenagers is quite extraordinary. it of some teenagers is quite extraordinary.— of some teenagers is quite extraordinary. of some teenagers is quite extraordina . , ., ., extraordinary. it is, and on the ositive extraordinary. it is, and on the positive side — extraordinary. it is, and on the positive side of— extraordinary. it is, and on the positive side of the _ extraordinary. it is, and on the positive side of the ledger, - extraordinary. it is, and on the positive side of the ledger, it | positive side of the ledger, it doesn't look like he was motivated from any foreign adversary, so he wasn't a spy for a foreign government, and it appears he was doing this to more or less get attention or gain credibility with peers. but if you look at edward snowden, he was young too, so is bradley manning. they all had issues in their own personal life that led them to want to do this to get attention, and that's why it's so important to have things like user behavioural analysis monitoring, because you can see changes in individual behaviour. if you do it once, that's a snapshot in time, and people change over time. and this individual was alone during the pandemic and, not unlike a lot of people, played video games, i think he unfortunately fell victim to wanting to have community and used
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of this access to intelligence as a way to impress other folks and try to get some kind of community affiliation. again, that's the kind of thing that could be detected if you do continuous monitoring, looking for user behavioural... you talk about the _ looking for user behavioural... you talk about the backlog, but wise in that happening given the sensitivities around this classified material? i’iiii sensitivities around this classified material? �* , ., ., sensitivities around this classified material? �* ., ., material? i'll tell you that part of it in the private _ material? i'll tell you that part of it in the private sector _ material? i'll tell you that part of it in the private sector has - material? i'll tell you that part of it in the private sector has to - material? i'll tell you that part of it in the private sector has to do | it in the private sector has to do with —like in the uk, we have very strict privacy rules, so there's limits on how much you can monitor. but in the government, the good news is as a military officer, when i was in the intelligence community or dhs, you sign away certain rights in order to that function. so to be honest with you, it should be easier to do it in the government than the private sector, and in the united states, there will be hearings on
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this. the intelligence community will do a hard look at how they could've improved with this process. so look for more insider threat programmes, after bradley manning and edward snowden, i've been on defence company boards where we've implemented what are called change two gnosis were insider threat programmes that take this to a new level. but that's not permeated throughout our government yet —— change to prognosis. {had throughout our government yet -- change to prognosis.— change to prognosis. chad suite, thank ou change to prognosis. chad suite, thank you for— change to prognosis. chad suite, thank you forjoining _ change to prognosis. chad suite, thank you forjoining us. - change to prognosis. chad suite, thank you forjoining us. thank i change to prognosis. chad suite, i thank you forjoining us. thank you. more now on our top story — france's top court has approved plans by the government of president emmanuel macron to raise the legal retirement age from 62 to 64. let's just show you some live pictures. already, the changes have brought hundreds of thousands of demonstrators on to the streets again, in cities across france. well, in the last hour, i spoke to francoisjoseph schichan, you're looking at hundreds of riot
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police deployed to the streets of paris to bring calm to the situation. we've seen these demonstrators out on the streets for many months now, and the hope now is that from the government side, because this will become law, that the demonstrations will also come to an end. but we've also been hearing from our correspondent on the grounds of the protesters are saying this fight is not over. well, in the last hour, i spoke to francoisjoseph schichan, a former french diplomat on this announcement, and asked about his reaction and what's next for emmanuel macron. yes, absolutely. this was, i think, an expected result that the constitutional council will deem the bill to reform the pension reform bill compliant with the constitution. now, obviously, it's what happens next. and i think the difficulty for union leaders to mobilise people is that they don't have any further hooks to to mobilise people for further demonstrations.
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and we've already seen yesterday a very sharp decrease in the number of people on the streets in of protest. so you're likely to see widespread protests tonight and perhaps violence as well. but i suspect in the next few weeks this is going to to die down slowly because there is no any more milestone for the bill, for the process. would president macron see this as a bit of a win for himself because, of course, he based his entire re—election? this was one of the campaign promises. yes, absolutely. i mean, he presented himself as a reformist president. and that was at the heart of the pension reform, was at the heart of his re—election campaign. so i think this is definitely a positive result for the government, because, as i said, essentially the constitution council has deemed
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the bill largely constitutional and it also refused to allow a referendum to take place on the bill. that was a request from some mp5, from opposition mps. and so that is not going to happen. so that will be, i think, hopefully for the president, the end of this difficult process. however, what i would say is that the resentment in the population is probably going to remain forfor the foreseeable future. and that is going to have an impact on the ability of the president to continue to reform the country. and i suspect that, you know, ambitious reforms in the next few months and years are going to be difficult to pass through parliament and to get accepted by the french electorate. he's isn't up for re—election, is he? so in many ways, he was in a position to just force this through in the way that he has, because other french presidents have grappled with this over the years and tried to to push it through. and if you can, just tell our audiences why this was so crucial for president macron, because there are many countries across europe, neighbouring countries, where retirement age is 66—67.
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and of course, in france for many years, it remained 60, and then was moved up to 62. yes, you're absolutely right. it's a critical issue for president macron. i think it's a signal that is sent to its european partners, particularly germany, to the european union, as well, that france is able to reform itself in quite a substantial way. and i would agree with you. i mean, in other member states and in the uk, it's managed much, much higher. but still, it is a step forward, and i think he will want this to demonstrate that that france continues to be able to be reformed, and that's also a signal sent to financial markets at a time when the level of debts across european member states is rising. this will be a tool to reassure basically the economic situation that things are stable in france, and that the country has implemented substantial structural reform of its economic structure. yes, because president macron also
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made the point that we just cannot afford to carry on in this way. and, you know, time is passing and we need to put this reform in place. yes, absolutely. and the president, i think decided that, given the fact that indeed, he cannot seek reelection in 2027, that means that, you know, i think it was an issue of legacy, as well. what is he going to leave behind after his two terms as president? and you want to achieve the to go further on the pension reform, something that all of his predecessors have tried to do. some of them have achieved something, but he is gone a bit further at a very high political cost, i would say. and i think the danger here is, you know, what's going in the impact on the political landscape and particularly particularly far right and far left parties, who are going probably to get a boost from that particular situation. and of course, the other thing
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i wanted to ask you, francois, is how you touched on a little earlier about how this was being received by the electorate. and just give us a sense of of how the far left and the far right are receiving this and using this politically. so the far left is obviously using the pension reform bill as a leverage to increase the protests around the country, to also solidify the left coalition that the far left built after the legislative election last year, and that that is proving quite efficient at the moment. and the far right, on the opposite side, is remaining quite very quiet on the issue and is basically flourishing on that basis because actually i don't think know far—fight leaders are that opposed to the reform deeply, but they will see that as an opportunity because the macron government is in difficulty at the moment.
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so this situation benefits both sides of the both the far right and the far left as a movement. and that is bringing more uncertainty and more political instability. after a one—day delay, the european space agency has successfully launched its mission to see if the moon ofjupiter can support alien life. the explorer took off from the european spaceport in french guiana, it will take eight years to reach its destination where it will examine three ofjupiter�*s moons to see if there is hidden oceans of water that could contain microbial life forms. mark sheehan, the guitarist for to make the script, has died at the age 46. he passed
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away today in hospital after a brief illness. you're looking there at those images of mark sheehan. you're watching babies dust bbc news. parents of a ten—month—old baby what are found guilty of his murder. he was placed in care after he was born, but returned to his parents and killed 39 days later and christmas 2020. the parents will be sentenced next month. enough to show hall is in dona ana. this was finley bowden, a happy, giggling baby who, just months after this video was filmed, died in the care of those who should have been protecting him. these are his parents, 30—year—old steven bowden and 22—year—old
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shannon marston. they murdered their baby son on christmas day 2020. the court heard finley was a victim of repeated acts of severe violence at their home in chesterfield. the pair were regular heavy users of cannabis to the jury heard prioritise getting money to spend on the drug over their son's care. this was the state of the home when finley died — child protection concerns meant he was removed from his parents shortly after he was born in february 2020. but later that year he was returned to their care by a court order following an eight year transition —— eight week transition, despite social workers asking for a long period. georgia lived next door to the family. period. georgia lived next door to the famil . ~ period. georgia lived next door to the family-— period. georgia lived next door to the family. was oppositely filthy - the family. was oppositely filthy - the were the family. was oppositely filthy - they were up _ the family. was oppositely filthy - they were up to — the family. was oppositely filthy - they were up to the _ the family. was oppositely filthy - they were up to the filthy, - the family. was oppositely filthy - they were up to the filthy, the i they were up to the filthy, the house was absolute filthy. and my honest first thought was, i didn't understand how they got the kid living in there. this understand how they got the kid living in there.— living in there. this is the house where finley — living in there. this is the house where finley lived _ living in there. this is the house where finley lived after - living in there. this is the house where finley lived after he i living in there. this is the house
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where finley lived after he was l where finley lived after he was returned to his parents — and it's where he was abused in the days and weeks leading up to his death. by the time he died, he had 130 injuries — bruises, burns, and even fractures to his bones. $5 a injuries - bruises, burns, and even fractures to his bones. as a parent, ou have fractures to his bones. as a parent, you have no — fractures to his bones. as a parent, you have no greater— fractures to his bones. as a parent, you have no greater responsibility l you have no greater responsibility to a child — you have no greater responsibility to a child that's in your care. but they— to a child that's in your care. but they couldn't even bring themselves to take _ they couldn't even bring themselves to take poor finley to hospital when he was _ to take poor finley to hospital when he was dutch it was totally clear he was critically ill. they've never given — was critically ill. they've never given a — was critically ill. they've never given a reasonable exultation as to why they— given a reasonable exultation as to why they did not do this, but it appears — why they did not do this, but it appears abundantly clear that their primary— appears abundantly clear that their primary concern was their own freedom _ primary concern was their own freedom. , primary concern was their own freedom-— primary concern was their own freedom. , , ' ., ., ., freedom. finley suffered a fatal colla se freedom. finley suffered a fatal collapse in _ freedom. finley suffered a fatal collapse in the _ freedom. finley suffered a fatal collapse in the early _ freedom. finley suffered a fatal collapse in the early hours i freedom. finley suffered a fatal collapse in the early hours of i collapse in the early hours of christmas morning and was pronounced deadin christmas morning and was pronounced dead in hospital. the cause of death was given us multiple episodes of non—accidental blunt force trauma. as parents, you're supposed to protect, not harm them. you're not supposed to harm your kid. i don't understand it, i really don't. aha,
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understand it, i really don't. a safeguarding review will ask whether moore could've been to protect finley, a boy whose life ended in the cruellest of ways. think of how much has happened in the past 500 days — the threat of covid has diminished, a war is being fought in ukraine, and queen elizabeth has died. all this happened without the knowledge of one spanish endurance athlete, who was kept in the dark by spending all that period in a spanish cave. robin brant takes up the story. applause after a year—and—a—half living deep down in a cave, what would your first thought be when you emerged? "who paid for friday beers" when she was gone was beatriz flamini's question. she was 48 when she went in. she's 50 years old now — celebrating two birthdays alone, 70 metres down in a cave outside
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granada, in the south of spain. "i love you so much," she said, adding... .."please disregard everything i've said down there." but her 500—day—long mission in isolation was closely watched by scientists, hoping to learn more about what extremes we can tolerate. she read, painted... ..shot these videos, exercised and lost track of time after a couple of months. so, is she glad to be out? "i did not want to leave" was her answer. robin brant, bbc news. let's ta ke let's take you back to our top story, and to the streets of paris — as you can see, night has fallen, riot police have gathered in the streets of the capital to try and
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create some kind of semblance of calm, although we haven't seen violence today in the capital, but you can see thousands of demonstrators they are out on the streets following france's top court approving plans by president emmanuel macron to raise the retirement age from 60 —— to 64 from 62. these protesters have been protesting for months now. the government hopes wants this bill becomes law, that the protests will stop. we'rejust looking becomes law, that the protests will stop. we're just looking at life pictures they are from paris of riot police alongside the demonstrators. that's it from me and the team here, but let's get all the latest from the weather, and darrenjoins us. hello there. at long last, the weather will be improving over the next few days. we've ended the week, though,
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on a cold and wet note. lots of showers in northern ireland, in scotland, and a few thunderstorms in the far north of england. further south across england and wales, this blanket of cloud has depressed the temperatures and brought some rain in places, as well. low pressure responsible for that colder, wetter weather will start to push away into continental europe, dragging away most of the rain, as well. but into the night, we'll keep some wet weather going across eastern parts of england and perhaps southeast scotland. the rain becomes lighter and patchy later on in the night, but that cloud will keep temperatures up. other parts of scotland, wales, western england, and also northern ireland will have clearer skies developing and light winds, so it's going to be cold. temperatures will be close to freezing and, like last night in northern ireland, we could see lows of —4 celsius. over the weekend, things do calm down a bit — we'll get some sunshine from time to time, and those temperatures will be steadily rising, as well. but we start the weekend with some cloud, but not much rain for eastern areas. the cloud will thin and break, and as we get some sunshine, that could trigger some showers — those could be on the sharp side come the afternoon.
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further west across the uk, probably going to be dry, a good deal of sunshine around — very pleasant at aintree for the grand national. now temperatures are nothing to shout about, but it's an improvement on the last couple of days, typically i2—i4 celsius. will turn cloudy later in northern ireland and, after dark, a little bit of rain here that'll push its way into western scotland, as well, but that weather front is weakening because high pressure is tending to build in. it won't be as cold to start with on sunday. there's more cloud around. not much rain, though, for western scotland and northern ireland. perhaps the best of the sunshine across some eastern parts of england this time, although there could be some early mist and fog patches. it's a gentle southerly breeze that's picking up, and those temperatures continuing to rise, perhaps up to 15—16 celsius. and into next week, it's going to be high pressure that's dominant — the centre of the high will be across scandinavia, and that'll be significant because it means that we'll have more of an easterly wind picking up during monday, tuesday and into wednesday. so, it'll always be a little bit cooler around some of those north sea coasts,
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hello — i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news... how is your son doing? did you get a chance to speak with him? are you surprised by this? no one, ithink, would have predicted this six months ago. that this kind of leak of this kind of material on such a massive scale would occurfor such, an apparently trivial reason. it's not a matter of trusting 21—year—olds to do whatever they want. it's trusting them to have access to the information, but then controlling and monitoring and preventing any further distribution.
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