hello and welcome to a new spots. the bbc got a big scoop with its elon musk interview, but who was actually calling the shots on this broadcast quest mark and in a documentary nearly half an hour long on the good friday agreement, why did mo mullins will not get a mention because mark. elon musk has not been a source of fascination for the worlds media because of his extreme wealth, his interest in space travel, his controversial

tweets, and has occasional highly unusual behaviour. since he bought twitter in october, that interest has grown with for example a bbc panorama investigation last month into the rise in hate speech on the social media site since moscow took over. he declined an interview for that programme and many other journalist requests. so with the bbc's journalist requests. so with the bbc�*s north america technology reporter, james clayton, sat down with him atjust a few hours notice on tuesday, it was something of a coup. the responses he got were by turns evasive, strongly argued, whimsical, and absurd. i’m turns evasive, strongly argued, whimsical, and absurd.- turns evasive, strongly argued, whimsical, and absurd. i'm not the ceo of twitter. — whimsical, and absurd. i'm not the ceo of twitter. my _ whimsical, and absurd. i'm not the ceo of twitter. my dog _ whimsical, and absurd. i'm not the ceo of twitter. my dog is - whimsical, and absurd. i'm not the ceo of twitter. my dog is the - whimsical, and absurd. i'm not the ceo of twitter. my dog is the ceo. i ceo of twitter. my dog is the ceo. he's a great dog. the pain level of twitter has been extremely high. it hasn't been some sort of party. so, it's been really quite a stressful situation. where there are many mistakes made along the way because mark of course. you mistakes made along the way because mark of course-—

mark of course. you so you don't know what _ mark of course. you so you don't know what you're talking - mark of course. you so you don't know what you're talking about. | mark of course. you so you don't . know what you're talking about. you can even give _ know what you're talking about. wm. can even give me a simple example of content, not even one tweet, but you claim the content was high.— claim the content was high. that's false. claim the content was high. that's false- you — claim the content was high. that's false. you kind _ claim the content was high. that's false. you kind of— claim the content was high. that's false. you kind of sad, _ claim the content was high. that's false. you kind of sad, actually . claim the content was high. that's false. you kind of sad, actually i l false. you kind of sad, actually i don't want to buy twitter any more. then you changed your mind again and you decided to buy it. did you do that because he thought a court of make you do that. yes that because he thought a court of make you do that.— make you do that. yes stop right. yes that is _ make you do that. yes stop right. yes that is the _ make you do that. yes stop right. yes that is the reason. _ make you do that. yes stop right. yes that is the reason. were - yes that is the reason. were literally on _ yes that is the reason. were literally on twitter _ yes that is the reason. were literally on twitter right - yes that is the reason. were | literally on twitter right now. yes that is the reason. were - literally on twitter right now. so it must work. they were literally on twitter, because shortly before the conversation was due to start, elon musk steam had told the bbc but it would be live streamed on their audio service, twitter spaces. that was the condition of the interview going ahead. and it was agreed to with it also being showed live on the bbc news channel. it featured prominently on most bbc outlets throughout wednesday, and audience reaction was mixed, with cal 2105

calling it,. but william oliver added. dave share that sentiment, right in. and louis makin thought. so, the bbc has given elon musk the attention he needed. well, let's go speak to james clayton. thank you so much for coming on new spots. now you were told on very short notice that twitter were going to live screamed that whole interview on twitter spaces. should the bbc have exceeded to that demand because not it meant really for that moment they were essentially running the show, weren't they?— weren't they? yeah it's an interesting _ weren't they? yeah it's an interesting question. - weren't they? yeah it's an interesting question. it's i weren't they? yeah it's an i interesting question. it's one weren't they? yeah it's an - interesting question. it's one i woke up at 4am to ask whether we should go ahead. i guess if you pull out at that point for the bbc, that's also an interesting reputational issue. you've got this

interview with elon musk that is ready to go, and you are not doing it. and what are the editorial sort of issues without too? i think in a way we mitigated it as we said we will put it live to so it's not you could argue editorially. maybe we shouldn't have gone ahead with it. but i think we would've lost the interview. and i think the interview was packed full of lines. i think if you watch the interview, i think 60 minutes, we actually start on for longer than that afterwards which recorded too. they're all sorts of interesting things that you learn about twitter, about elon musk, that we wouldn't have learned if we had done that interview. so we wouldn't have learned if we had done that interview.— we wouldn't have learned if we had done that interview. so watching it, it's clear that _ done that interview. so watching it, it's clear that musk _ done that interview. so watching it, it's clear that musk successfully - it's clear that musk successfully deflected a lot of questions right back at you. were you prepared for that? , ., ., ,., back at you. were you prepared for that? , ., ., ., ., that? yes, i had about four or five hours or so _ that? yes, i had about four or five hours or so to _ that? yes, i had about four or five hours or so to prep. _ that? yes, i had about four or five hours or so to prep. so _ that? yes, i had about four or five hours or so to prep. so i - hours or so to prep. so i prepped the questions. when i hadn't done or had time to do, because it wasn't

loads of time, is war game so perhaps i wasn't prepared for that comeback in a way that i would've been i had more time. at the same time, elon musk is going to do that. he's very difficult interview. he's very difficult to pin down. i asked him about who he was going to pass the reins to. who's going to be the next chief executive of twitter, and he said i've made my dog chief executive of twitter. he said it over and over again. executive of twitter. he said it overand overagain. how executive of twitter. he said it over and over again. how do you interview someone like that? so elon musk is notoriously difficult if you. and i think generally we had a very interesting chart. he was being very interesting chart. he was being very honest. but there definitely were places i felt where he was trying to go viral. and i also think that he was very much during an interview to try and impress some of his twitter friends on twitter spaces. maybe the tone of the interview might�*ve been different if we weren't on twitter spaces. but

this is elon musk. he has a chaos match. and you have to prepare for anything that might happen. imilieu match. and you have to prepare for anything that might happen. when you asked about hate _ anything that might happen. when you asked about hate speech, _ anything that might happen. when you asked about hate speech, a _ anything that might happen. when you asked about hate speech, a big - asked about hate speech, a big important issue, he asked you for examples. you didn't have any. shouldn't have been better prepared quest mark shouldn't have been better prepared ruest mar , ., ~ shouldn't have been better prepared ruest mar , . ,, .,, shouldn't have been better prepared ruest mar . ~ , quest mark yeah, i think it was 'ust a tactical errorfi quest mark yeah, i think it was 'ust a tactical error for i quest mark yeah, i think it was 'ust a tactical error for me. i quest mark yeah, i think it was 'ust a tactical error for me. i i quest mark yeah, i think it wasjust a tactical error for me. i shouldn't. a tactical error for me. i shouldn't have engaged. i shouldn't have engaged particular question. actually, at the time when i was thinking about it i had tonnes of examples of hate speech that i could have given him, but i didn't want to continue to go down that path because i had already made the tactical error of engagement. i should'vejust said this tactical error of engagement. i should've just said this is not about me, whether twitter is full of hate or not. it's not about my twitter feed. hate or not. it's not about my twitterfeed. but hate or not. it's not about my twitter feed. but we sat down for 90 minutes in total. there are going to be moments when elon musk is very slippery character, where you don't

get the better of him in certain questions. and of course, what elon musk can do because he is the most followed person on twitter, as he could make moments go viral. so people look at those moments and maybe haven't watched the entire interview, which is once again stocked with lines. there are things that we have no idea elon musk thought. and i pushed back on him very hard. in numerous areas. i found it to be a really interesting interview, and it was a real roller coaster in many ways. the kind ever reflected elon mac ones personality at times, quite thoughtful, emotional at times, and then quite aggressive at times. elan emotional at times, and then quite aggressive at times.— emotional at times, and then quite aggressive at times. elon musk said, ask me whatever _ aggressive at times. elon musk said, ask me whatever you _ aggressive at times. elon musk said, ask me whatever you want. - aggressive at times. elon musk said, ask me whatever you want. but - aggressive at times. elon musk said, ask me whatever you want. but you | ask me whatever you want. but you didn't ask about the tie cave dive rescue story, or spray sex, or the controversial things he said about ukraine and all that time that you had. why not? the

ukraine and all that time that you had- why not?— ukraine and all that time that you had. why not? ukraine and all that time that you had. wh not? . ., had. why not? the agreement that we had before is — had. why not? the agreement that we had before is that _ had. why not? the agreement that we had before is that we _ had. why not? the agreement that we had before is that we were _ had. why not? the agreement that we had before is that we were going - had. why not? the agreement that we had before is that we were going to . had before is that we were going to do a six month take on his first six months as chief executive of twitter. we could have stayed and done hours more interview. at that point, firstly, that is not what we had agreed. he point, firstly, that is not what we had agreed-— point, firstly, that is not what we had areed. . . , had agreed. he said ask you anything ou'd like. had agreed. he said ask you anything you'd like- you _ had agreed. he said ask you anything you'd like. you live _ had agreed. he said ask you anything you'd like. you live stream _ had agreed. he said ask you anything you'd like. you live stream to - you'd like. you live stream to it. what would he have done? that was riaht what would he have done? that was riuht if what would he have done? that was ri . ht if the what would he have done? that was right if the start _ what would he have done? that was right if the start of _ what would he have done? that was right if the start of the _ what would he have done? that was right if the start of the interview. - right if the start of the interview. he said we are going to be doing an interview about the first six months of your tenure at twitter. and he said ask me anything you like. so that was about those six months and that was about those six months and thatis that was about those six months and that is what we had agreed to before the interview. i could have asked her more about that. you also get to the point where you have sat down and asked someone for 90 minutes about a certain topic, and you have stacks of news lines, how many more questions do you want and need to ask? you can always say what you didn't ask. but the parameters of

the interview were about his first six months as owner and chief executive of twitter.— six months as owner and chief executive of twitter. james clayton, thank ou executive of twitter. james clayton, thank you so — executive of twitter. james clayton, thank you so much _ executive of twitter. james clayton, thank you so much for— executive of twitter. james clayton, thank you so much for coming - executive of twitter. james clayton, thank you so much for coming on i executive of twitter. james clayton, i thank you so much for coming on news watch. last week on his 25th anniversary of the good friday agreement was marked by a number of reports and special programmes across the bbc, including the 26 minute documentary, troubles and peace, commission forthe minute documentary, troubles and peace, commission for the iplayer and also shown on television last saturday. the deal largely ended the largest running conflict in europe 25 years ago. i largest running conflict in europe 25 years ago-— largest running conflict in europe 25 years ago. i thought this is not a conflict that _ 25 years ago. i thought this is not a conflict that has _ 25 years ago. i thought this is not a conflict that has got _ 25 years ago. i thought this is not a conflict that has got anyplace of the new millennium. if a conflict that has got anyplace of the new millennium.— a conflict that has got anyplace of the new millennium. if you want to solve it you have _ the new millennium. if you want to solve it you have to _ the new millennium. if you want to solve it you have to take _ the new millennium. if you want to solve it you have to take that risk l solve it you have to take that risk and talk — solve it you have to take that risk and talk to — solve it you have to take that risk and talk to those who actually control it _ and talk to those who actually control it-_ and talk to those who actually control it. ~ ., ., ., control it. what followed met with the general _ control it. what followed met with the general approval _ control it. what followed met with the general approval of _ control it. what followed met with the general approval of one i control it. what followed met with the general approval of one to i control it. what followed met with i the general approval of one to cook, but she had one major reservation.

it was an excellent account of the part played by so many people who had a difficultjourney made to conclude the peace agreement. however, i was very dismayed that there was no mention made of the part played by mo molen, the den secretary of state for northern ireland. it has been widely recognised that she played a critical role in bringing various parties together around the table to secure the peace agreement. so an otherwise excellent film, but a serious omission, not to make reference to the part played by mo molen, a very brave lady. and reference to the part played by mo molen, a very brave lady.- molen, a very brave lady. and put that oint molen, a very brave lady. and put that point made _ molen, a very brave lady. and put that point made by _ molen, a very brave lady. and put that point made by wendy - molen, a very brave lady. and put that point made by wendy and i molen, a very brave lady. and put i that point made by wendy and another viewer to bbc news, and they told us.

finally, king charles and camilla, the queen consort, have now sent out invitations to the coronation on the 6th of may, or invites, as they have been described on various bbc outlets on television and on the website. jennifer willis was not alone when she wondered, am i the only person who is annoyed at the use of the word invite as a noun's thank you for all your comments this week. we have also been receiving feedback on the new bbc news channel, and we will be returning to that subject in the coming weeks, so please keep those comments coming. if you want to share your opinions about what you see or hear on bbc

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so you select your drink. and send the order through so that brister can make it in advance. in the process name is pete. hello, beat. well, right now, i'm struggling to see the point of him. all he's done is put the cup on to the machine. i'm in seoul, south korea, for the first time since the pandemic, and i'm looking for signs of this hyper—advanced nation's continued push into the future... machine speaks korean ..of which my banana latte is a small sign.

see, in 2020, the government at the time introduced a new policy called untact — — that's the opposite of contact — which aimed to promote economic growth by automating parts of society and removing human contact at the same time. here's a mobile shop where you can buy phones and sign contracts without dealing with a real person. and here's how you get airport information these days. please give me the airline information. i will show you where it is. please wear a face mask for the health of the people around you. it's no surprise this policy was given a boost by covid, when we were all encouraged not to touch anything or be near anyone. mind you, i'm not sure it explains why my chicken was fried by a robot yesterday. how would you want yours done? as one of the most high—tech countries on earth, south korea is in a prime place to make these changes.

with nearly 100% of under—40s online, they love their technology here. and untact was not the first government policy to try and help this nation's rise. in fact, it was a government push towards industry, and later high—tech industry, that's got it to where it is today. in the last 60 years, this country has completely reinvented itself, going from one of the world's poorest nations to an industrial and technological powerhouse. a huge part of its success is down to the massive family—run businesses, called chaebols, that tower over seoul. you'll have heard of a few of them, i'm sure. there's lg, arguably the country's king of home goods and, of course, those bendy tvs. hyundai makes everything from electric cars and robo—taxis