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weeks. ok. we are going to have to leave it there _ weeks. ok. we are going to have to leave it there for _ weeks. ok. we are going to have to leave it there for the _ weeks. ok. we are going to have to leave it there for the moment. - weeks. ok. we are going to have to l leave it there for the moment. thank you so much for your insight. to stay with us here on bbc news. plenty more to come about the settling of dominion versus fox news. and let's turn to moscow, where a court has — as expected — rejected the appeal against the pre—trial detention of the us journalist evan gershkovich. have a look at these images of evan gershkovich appearing in court. the russian authorities accuse him of spying — charges which he and his employer, the wall streetjournal, strongly deny. he appeared at the same court where, yesterday, an opponent of president putin was convicted of treason and sentenced to 25 years in prison. i'm joined now by the head of the global magnitskyjustice campaign, bill browder. thank you so much forjoining me.

just want to tell us the latest on the court appearance today, what does it tell us about the situation and about evan gursky vich's prospects? evan gershkovich? it's a hostage exercise and _ evan gershkovich? it's a hostage exercise and they _ evan gershkovich? it's a hostage exercise and they both _ evan gershkovich? it's a hostage exercise and they both sleep --| exercise and they both sleep —— basically plucked evan gershkovich out of thin air because he was in russia. he was a wall streetjournal reporter and they wanted a high—value hostage. i wouldn't even waste time looking at the mechanics of the court case because there is no court case, there is nojustice. this is clearly a kidnapping exercise where they put on this window dressing to make it look

legal. window dressing to make it look leual. .,, , window dressing to make it look leual. , ., , legal. positive news from his la er, legal. positive news from his lawyer. who _ legal. positive news from his lawyer, who said _ legal. positive news from his lawyer, who said that - legal. positive news from his lawyer, who said that he's i legal. positive news from his lawyer, who said that he's a | lawyer, who said that he's a fighting spirit, he's working out and those people are supporting him, so positive in the sense that he looked physically well.- looked physically well. yeah, i don't think _ looked physically well. yeah, i don't think we _ looked physically well. yeah, i don't think we should - looked physically well. yeah, i don't think we should just - looked physically well. yeah, i don't think we should just tell| looked physically well. yeah, i- don't think we should just tell mike draw much comfort for that, he's only been there for a few weeks. russian prisons are designed to grind people down, as you mentioned, my friend vladimir kara—murza, who is in its yesterday, he's been in jail for a little over a year now and he's lost more than 20 kilos of weight. he looks like a skeleton. this is not a good place to be for anybody, and i think it's the intentions of the russians to grind down any of their hostages so that we square more and we're ready to

pay more —— we squirm more. it pay more -- we squirm more. if you could stay — pay more -- we squirm more. if you could stay with _ pay more -- we squirm more. if you could stay with us, _ pay more -- we squirm more. if you could stay with us, but... _ let's speak now to brett bruen — he was director of global engagement in president 0bama's white house and was a us diplomat for 12 years. he now runs the global situation room, a crisis management consultancy. thank you very much for spending some time with us. brett, what will be going on behind the scenes? how will the us government need managing the situation? i government need managing the situation? ., government need managing the situation? . ., , , ., situation? i want to pick up on something _ situation? i want to pick up on something that _ situation? i want to pick up on something that bill _ situation? i want to pick up on something that billjust - situation? i want to pick up on - something that billjust mentioned, which _ something that billjust mentioned, which is _ something that billjust mentioned, which is important here, and that is the fact— which is important here, and that is the fact that — which is important here, and that is the fact that those difficult conditions, the challenge that was placed _ conditions, the challenge that was placed on— conditions, the challenge that was placed on brittney griner before and paul whelen still, plenty in the united — paul whelen still, plenty in the united states, at the heartstrings and adds— united states, at the heartstrings and adds to pressure. we saw how that works —

and adds to pressure. we saw how that works to force president biden into a _ that works to force president biden into a position where they were willing — into a position where they were willing to — into a position where they were willing to negotiate, to release victor— willing to negotiate, to release victor boots in and exchange for correct — victor boots in and exchange for correct greiner. —— viktor bout. in order— correct greiner. —— viktor bout. in order to _ correct greiner. —— viktor bout. in order to secure the release of americans who are unjustly held in places— americans who are unjustly held in places like — americans who are unjustly held in places like russia, but i do worry that we're — places like russia, but i do worry that we're in a situation where vladimir— that we're in a situation where vladimir putin feels like he has leverage — vladimir putin feels like he has leverage and we're seeing him try to use it _ leverage and we're seeing him try to use it. ., ~' leverage and we're seeing him try to use it. ., ,, , . . , use it. you think the precedent has been set, basically? _ use it. you think the precedent has been set, basically? unfortunately| been set, basically? unfortunately so, and i think— been set, basically? unfortunately so, and i think there _ been set, basically? unfortunately so, and i think there is _ been set, basically? unfortunately so, and i think there is an - so, and i think there is an important distinction here, and that is the _ important distinction here, and that is the president and the secretary of state _ is the president and the secretary of state personally got so involved when _ of state personally got so involved when i _ of state personally got so involved when i was a diplomat, and there was a hard _ when i was a diplomat, and there was a hard and— when i was a diplomat, and there was a hard and facts —— fast rule that we do _ a hard and facts —— fast rule that we do not — a hard and facts —— fast rule that we do not negotiate. it's difficult for the _ we do not negotiate. it's difficult for the families, for the american public, _ for the families, for the american public, but — for the families, for the american public, but i think it was an

important stand for us to take because — important stand for us to take because we wouldn't find yourself in a situation _ because we wouldn't find yourself in a situation where people like vladimir— a situation where people like vladimir putin, who is so isolated and looking for anything he can grasp— and looking for anything he can grasp onto, now feels like he's found — grasp onto, now feels like he's found something.— grasp onto, now feels like he's found something. lets bring the anel found something. lets bring the panel members _ found something. lets bring the panel members back _ found something. lets bring the panel members back in. - jessica, your colleagues will be working in russia. how difficult is it now for colleagues of yours, colleagues of ours to work there with this threat to potential hostage situation?- with this threat to potential hostage situation? yeah, it is absolutely — hostage situation? yeah, it is absolutely chilling, _ hostage situation? yeah, it is absolutely chilling, and - hostage situation? yeah, it is absolutely chilling, and just l hostage situation? yeah, it is| absolutely chilling, and just as your— absolutely chilling, and just as your guests _ absolutely chilling, and just as your guests were _ absolutely chilling, and just as your guests were describing, i absolutely chilling, and just as - your guests were describing, what is terrifving _ your guests were describing, what is terrifving about _ your guests were describing, what is terrifying about this _ your guests were describing, what is terrifying about this if— your guests were describing, what is terrifying about this if you _ your guests were describing, what is terrifying about this if you were - your guests were describing, what is terrifying about this if you were a - terrifying about this if you were a journalist — terrifying about this if you were a journalist in _ terrifying about this if you were a journalist in russia _ terrifying about this if you were a journalist in russia trying - terrifying about this if you were a journalist in russia trying to - journalist in russia trying to report— journalist in russia trying to report about _ journalist in russia trying to report about russia, - journalist in russia trying to report about russia, this i journalist in russia trying to - report about russia, this seems like a very— report about russia, this seems like a very arbitrarv _ report about russia, this seems like a very arbitrary journalist _ report about russia, this seems like a very arbitraryjournalist of - report about russia, this seems like a very arbitraryjournalist of pick. . a very arbitraryjournalist of pick. they—

a very arbitraryjournalist of pick. thev picked — a very arbitraryjournalist of pick. they picked someone _ a very arbitraryjournalist of pick. they picked someone who - a very arbitraryjournalist of pick. they picked someone who would | a very arbitraryjournalist of pick. i they picked someone who would be reasonably — they picked someone who would be reasonably hard _ they picked someone who would be reasonably hard profile, _ they picked someone who would be reasonably hard profile, but - they picked someone who would be reasonably hard profile, but the - reasonably hard profile, but the feeling — reasonably hard profile, but the feeling very— reasonably hard profile, but the feeling very much _ reasonably hard profile, but the feeling very much is— reasonably hard profile, but the feeling very much is amongst. feeling very much is amongst colleagues _ feeling very much is amongst colleagues that— feeling very much is amongst colleagues that it _ feeling very much is amongst colleagues that it could - feeling very much is amongst colleagues that it could have | feeling very much is amongst - colleagues that it could have been anvone _ colleagues that it could have been anyone in— colleagues that it could have been anyone in order— colleagues that it could have been anyone in order to— colleagues that it could have been anyone in order to make - colleagues that it could have been anyone in order to make this- colleagues that it could have beeni anyone in order to make this point, in order— anyone in order to make this point, in order to — anyone in order to make this point, in order to extract _ anyone in order to make this point, in order to extract that _ anyone in order to make this point, in order to extract that kind - anyone in order to make this point, in order to extract that kind of- in order to extract that kind of leverage — in order to extract that kind of leverage that _ in order to extract that kind of leverage that a _ in order to extract that kind of leverage that a desperate - in order to extract that kind of- leverage that a desperate president is trying _ leverage that a desperate president is trying to— leverage that a desperate president is trying to use _ leverage that a desperate president is trying to use in _ leverage that a desperate president is trying to use in order— leverage that a desperate president is trying to use in order to - leverage that a desperate president is trying to use in order to do - leverage that a desperate president is trying to use in order to do some| is trying to use in order to do some hostage treating _ is trying to use in order to do some hostage treating. i— is trying to use in order to do some hostage treating. i think— hostage treating. i think journalists— hostage treating. i think journalists were... - hostage treating. i think journalists were... we l hostage treating. i think. journalists were... we saw hostage treating. i think- journalists were... we saw evan hostage treating. i think— journalists were... we saw evan in the roonr. — journalists were... we saw evan in the roonr. guite _ journalists were... we saw evan in the room, quite heartened - journalists were... we saw evan in the room, quite heartened by- journalists were... we saw evan in the room, quite heartened by how| journalists were... we saw evan in i the room, quite heartened by how he seemed _ the room, quite heartened by how he seemed to be — the room, quite heartened by how he seemed to be looking _ the room, quite heartened by how he seemed to be looking and _ seemed to be looking and reasonably -ood seemed to be looking and reasonably good spirited — seemed to be looking and reasonably good spirited although _ seemed to be looking and reasonably good spirited although obviously, - seemed to be looking and reasonably good spirited although obviously, he| good spirited although obviously, he had nrarks_ good spirited although obviously, he had marks on— good spirited although obviously, he had marks on his _ good spirited although obviously, he had marks on his arms— good spirited although obviously, he had marks on his arms that - good spirited although obviously, he had marks on his arms that looked l had marks on his arms that looked like where — had marks on his arms that looked like where there _ had marks on his arms that looked like where there had _ had marks on his arms that looked like where there had been- had marks on his arms that looked . like where there had been handcuffs. it like where there had been handcuffs. it wasn't _ like where there had been handcuffs. it wasn't all _ like where there had been handcuffs. it wasn't all good, _ like where there had been handcuffs. it wasn't all good, i _ like where there had been handcuffs. it wasn't all good, i did _ like where there had been handcuffs. it wasn't all good, i did not _ like where there had been handcuffs. it wasn't all good, i did not file - it wasn't all good, i did not file good _ it wasn't all good, i did not file good news _ it wasn't all good, i did not file good news to— it wasn't all good, i did not file good news to see _ it wasn't all good, i did not file good news to see him - it wasn't all good, i did not file good news to see him —— - it wasn't all good, i did not file . good news to see him —— it didn't feel _ good news to see him —— it didn't feel there — good news to see him —— it didn't feel. there was _ good news to see him —— it didn't feel. there was clearly— good news to see him —— it didn't feel. there was clearly from - good news to see him —— it didn't feel. there was clearly from a - feel. there was clearly from a backing — feel. there was clearly from a backing from _ feel. there was clearly from a backing from the _ feel. there was clearly from a backing from the us - feel. there was clearly from a i backing from the us ambassador feel. there was clearly from a - backing from the us ambassador in the room _ backing from the us ambassador in the room and — backing from the us ambassador in the room and lots _ backing from the us ambassador in the room and lots of _ backing from the us ambassador in the room and lots of german - backing from the us ambassador in the room and lots of german is- the room and lots of german is —— journalists — the room and lots of german is —— journalists sending message - the room and lots of german is —— journalists sending message of. journalists sending message of

support — journalists sending message of support. there _ journalists sending message of support. there are _ journalists sending message of support. there are obviously. journalists sending message of- support. there are obviously people trying _ support. there are obviously people trying to— support. there are obviously people trying to keep — support. there are obviously people trying to keep spirits _ support. there are obviously people trying to keep spirits up, _ support. there are obviously people trying to keep spirits up, but- support. there are obviously people trying to keep spirits up, but it - support. there are obviously people trying to keep spirits up, but it is i trying to keep spirits up, but it is a debt— trying to keep spirits up, but it is a debt very difficult _ trying to keep spirits up, but it is a debt very difficult situation - trying to keep spirits up, but it is a debt very difficult situation fori a debt very difficult situation for him and — a debt very difficult situation for him and very— a debt very difficult situation for him and very worried _ a debt very difficult situation for him and very worried one - a debt very difficult situation for him and very worried one for- him and very worried one for colleagues _ him and very worried one for colleagues-— him and very worried one for colleagues. him and very worried one for colleauues. ., . ,, colleagues. professor hank i, your thou~hts colleagues. professor hank i, your thoughts on _ colleagues. professor hank i, your thoughts on this? _ colleagues. professor hank i, your thoughts on this? i _ colleagues. professor hank i, your thoughts on this? i think - thoughts on this? i think unfortunately, _ thoughts on this? i think unfortunately, we're - thoughts on this? i think unfortunately, we're in l thoughts on this? i think unfortunately, we're in a thoughts on this? i think - unfortunately, we're in a situation where the fog of war is pretty thick. we know that persona in this particular play, but we don't really know what the screenplay is. now, it's been brought up, the word leverage and hostage and stuff, but economics are always two sides, and maybe the us when they impounded the almost $300 billion of russian central bank research, they were maybe thinking about using that as leverage. maybe there's going to be some trade potential here. bill.

some trade potential here. bill, head of magnitsky, _ some trade potential here. bill, head of magnitsky, what's the next stage in this?— stage in this? well, i think nothing will ha en stage in this? well, i think nothing will happen next. _ stage in this? well, i think nothing will happen next. what _ stage in this? well, i think nothing will happen next. what we're - stage in this? well, i think nothing| will happen next. what we're going to see is this will drag on and it's going to drag on and drag on. and the intention is for everybody in america and other countries to get more and more upset about it. the intention is for evan to look more and more gaunt. the intention is to plug at the heartstrings of american voters so that we eventually give them the most valuable thing that would —— they are asking for. we won't know for a while. one complicating factor is that paul whelan, another american hostage who's done nothing wrong, who's been in jail now between four and five

years, he's first in line to be released in any kind of hostage swap. he should've been released before brittney griner, so that complicates the extent who gets swapped out. it's an ugly, very difficult situation in which putin pretty much holds all the cards here because we don't take hostages reciprocally. it's not like we're going to go and grab a russia today journalist and dip them in super max and agree a trade. we have to do it asymmetrically and it's not clear what retaliation would be. brett, presumably _ what retaliation would be. brett, presumably there'll _ what retaliation would be. brett, presumably there'll be _ what retaliation would be. brett, - presumably there'll be conversations that are in diplomatic channels. how does that work?— does that work? yeah, look, i think

ou can does that work? yeah, look, i think you can expect _ does that work? yeah, look, i think you can expect from _ does that work? yeah, look, i think you can expect from some - does that work? yeah, look, i think l you can expect from some experience working in— you can expect from some experience working in this situation that the opening — working in this situation that the opening offer is going to be outrageous. we may have already received _ outrageous. we may have already received it. — outrageous. we may have already received it, and there will be efforts — received it, and there will be efforts here in washington through othered _ efforts here in washington through othered channels to try to chip away at, othered channels to try to chip away at. one _ othered channels to try to chip away at. one can — othered channels to try to chip away at, one can presume, releasing dozen of russians— at, one can presume, releasing dozen of russians in us prisons, may be related to — of russians in us prisons, may be related to the war in ukraine. i want _ related to the war in ukraine. i want to— related to the war in ukraine. i want to come back to this point of what _ want to come back to this point of what putin's endgame is. he is a master— what putin's endgame is. he is a master of— what putin's endgame is. he is a master of the art of distraction and his goal— master of the art of distraction and his goal here is to stay relevant, stay— his goal here is to stay relevant, stay powerful, so by taking such a prominent — stay powerful, so by taking such a prominentjournalist, what he's prominent journalist, what he's achieving — prominentjournalist, what he's achieving is we are sitting here on the bbc_ achieving is we are sitting here on the bbc talking about it, is that power that he retains, even as his military— power that he retains, even as his military looks so weak on the battlefield. bill

military looks so weak on the battlefield.— military looks so weak on the battlefield. �* . �* . ~ battlefield. bill and brett, thank ou so battlefield. bill and brett, thank you so much _ battlefield. bill and brett, thank you so much for— battlefield. bill and brett, thank you so much for your _ battlefield. bill and brett, thank you so much for your thoughts. | battlefield. bill and brett, thank| you so much for your thoughts. i just want to give you some of the latest from the dominion story we've been talking about. this is a statement come via reuters. fox news are pleased to have reached an amicable settlement with dominion voting systems. that's a statement from the company issued today. they say fox core acknowledge the findings and certain claims to be false. that is a statement after a settlement has been reached with fox news effectively paying dominion $7005 news effectively paying dominion $700.5 million. we will come back to that in a moment with the panel, but

for the moment, i want to move onto another story. the bosses of encrypted messaging services, including whatsapp, have written a joint letter to the government, asking it to make changes to the online safety bill. they're arguing that the proposed law will allow the indiscriminate surveillance of personal messages. the letter said... let's speak now to matthew hodgson, chief executive of british messaging app element, who's signed this letter. element has more than a0 million users worldwide. thank you so much forjoining us. this is a story the government are saying are all about protecting children. it's about being able to uncover images on the internet. why

have you written this letter and why do you think this sets a dangerous precedent? the do you think this sets a dangerous precedent?— precedent? the problem with the online safety _ precedent? the problem with the online safety bill— precedent? the problem with the online safety bill is _ precedent? the problem with the online safety bill is that - precedent? the problem with the online safety bill is that it - precedent? the problem with the online safety bill is that it makes the situation worse, it allows ofcom to mandate some kind of standing technology to be embedded in every single encrypted messaging app in order to detect this particularly obnoxious abusive content. however, by doing this, it's going to expose an entire range of different content and go to allow bad actors and ex—filtrate data, look these scanned messages and offensively be the equivalent to putting a cctv camera into the bedroom of every house in the countryjust in case something bad happens. fundamentally it undermines the secure messaging that some of the privacy that's the point of the apps. is some of the privacy that's the point of the apps-—

of the apps. is there a way to do both? as their _ of the apps. is there a way to do both? as their way _ of the apps. is there a way to do both? as their way to _ of the apps. is there a way to do both? as their way to make - of the apps. is there a way to doj both? as their way to make sure these abuse images are in covered but not disrupt the encryption? know, there isn't. you can't have it both ways, and one of the alarming things is it claims it is possible —— no. the two are a contradiction. you cannot have both. instead, the way to address this abuse is to go and look at the unencrypted footprints of these communities on the internet, whether it's terrorism or child abuse, and go and follow the breadcrumb trail of where that leads rather than go and indiscriminately implement blankets of security. indiscriminately implement blankets of securi . ., indiscriminately implement blankets ofsecuri . . , ., of security. final question, whatsapp _ of security. final question, whatsapp said _ of security. final question, whatsapp said they - of security. final question, whatsapp said they would | of security. final question, - whatsapp said they would rather be blocked in the uk than we can their encryption. what element agreed?

yes, absolutely. there is no way we would compromise the privacy of our messaging apps used by people like the ukrainian ministry of defence or the ukrainian ministry of defence or the uk ministry of defence, for that matter, as a way to securely communicate by going uncompromising by putting in a mechanism that bad actors can use to go and steal people's private messages. we would have to be blocked as well.— have to be blocked as well. matthew, jessica, it's have to be blocked as well. matthew, jessica. it's a — have to be blocked as well. matthew, jessica, it's a tricky _ have to be blocked as well. matthew, jessica, it's a tricky one. _ have to be blocked as well. matthew, jessica, it's a tricky one. the - jessica, it's a tricky one. the government are wanting to protect children they say, but others say it just can't be done on the systems as they are. just can't be done on the systems as the are. ., ., just can't be done on the systems as the are. . . . ,~ they are. yeah, and when we ask number ten _ they are. yeah, and when we ask number ten about _ they are. yeah, and when we ask number ten about this, - they are. yeah, and when we ask number ten about this, they - they are. yeah, and when we askl number ten about this, they were pretty— number ten about this, they were pretty bullish _ number ten about this, they were pretty bullish and _ number ten about this, they were pretty bullish and said _ number ten about this, they were pretty bullish and said they - number ten about this, they were pretty bullish and said they think. pretty bullish and said they think tech companies _ pretty bullish and said they think tech companies have _ pretty bullish and said they think tech companies have this - pretty bullish and said they think tech companies have this morali pretty bullish and said they think- tech companies have this moral duty to ensure _ tech companies have this moral duty to ensure they're _ tech companies have this moral duty to ensure they're not _ tech companies have this moral duty to ensure they're not blinding -

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ve much legislation comes back. thank you very much to _ legislation comes back. thank you very much to jessica _ legislation comes back. thank you very much to jessica and - legislation comes back. thank you| very much to jessica and matthew. let's return to our breaking story. fox news and dominion voting systems have settled their landmark defamation case over the broadcaster's reporting of the last us presidential election. earlier one of dominion's lawyers, justin nelson and ceo james poulos addressed the media — here's what they had to say. the truth matters. lies have consequences. over two years ago, a torrent of lies swept dominion and election officials across america. to an alternative universe of conspiracy theories, grievous harm to dominion in the country. reaction there to the settlement, and we should say we've heard a

statement from fox news, who acknowledge the court's rulings, finding certain claims to be false. this reflects fox news's commitment to highestjournalistic standards. to highest journalistic standards. what to highestjournalistic standards. what does this tell us about fox's reputation, professor? professor steve, if you wouldn't mind giving your reaction to the statement there? ~ ., . your reaction to the statement there? ~ . , . . your reaction to the statement there? ~ . , .. , ., there? well, as i indicated before, i think there? well, as i indicated before, lthinkthis — there? well, as i indicated before, i think this is — there? well, as i indicated before, i think this is a _ there? well, as i indicated before, i think this is a little _ there? well, as i indicated before, i think this is a little bit _ there? well, as i indicated before, i think this is a little bit of - there? well, as i indicated before, i think this is a little bit of a - i think this is a little bit of a tempest _ i think this is a little bit of a tempest in a teacup kind of problem. fox news— tempest in a teacup kind of problem. fox news is— tempest in a teacup kind of problem. fox news is all over the press all the time — fox news is all over the press all the time and the court found that this was— the time and the court found that this was false news and this particular case doesn't surprise me at all _ particular case doesn't surprise me atall. ,, particular case doesn't surprise me at all. ,, ., particular case doesn't surprise me atall. . .,, at all. jessica, what does it tell us about freedom _

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a very busy news evening. enjoy the rest of your evening. shall see her heading out of the champions league this evening. in london, chelsea are taking on real madrid, trying to overturn a 2—0 deficit against the defending champions. it is currently 0—0. despite having several chances to get back into the game, they were hit on the counterattack by real madrid with roderigo ending the contest. chelsea lost the first leg 2—0 last week and, despite having several chances to get back in the game, they were hit on the counter attack by real with rodrygo effectively ending the contest. and chelsea's champions league hopes

were over when valverde left rodrygo with the simplest of finishes for his second of the night. in the night's other match, ac milan are beating serie a leaders napoli. leading 1—0 from the first leg, milan had the chance to go further ahead, but olivier giroud saw his penalty saved. the former arsenal and chelsea man made amends two minutes before the break, though, to put the visitors ahead 2—0 on aggregate. napoli have since missed their own penalty. so it's a real madrid and napoli. meanwhile, manchester city are in germany ahead of their quarterfinal second leg against bayern munich on wednesday. they have a healthy 3—0 advantage from the first leg at the etihad last week. they'll have phil foden available after he returned to training. he's been missing since pulling out of international duty last month to have his appendix removed. ido i do understand the situation that they come here just to defend something, we came here to play football, 11 mins against 11 men's that we tried to do better than the

opening in this specific aim. if you think aboutjust the opening in this specific aim. if you think about just the result, opening in this specific aim. if you think aboutjust the result, what opening in this specific aim. if you think about just the result, what we tried to do, would be a big mistake for us. so bayern munich have it all to do, but striker sadio mane will play some part. the former liverpool forward was suspended at the weekend after an altercation with a team mate following the defeat in manchester, but bayern boss thomas tuchel will include him in the squad. this kind of energy in the dressing room _ this kind of energy in the dressing room shows also the determination and shows— room shows also the determination and shows that it's alive, that the players _ and shows that it's alive, that the players are — and shows that it's alive, that the players are not happy, that the players — players are not happy, that the players are not happy, that the players are angry with themselves, with each— players are angry with themselves, with each other. it can be used... it's with each other. it can be used... its also _ with each other. it can be used... its also kind _ with each other. it can be used... it's also kind of a form of energy. it's also kind of a form of energy. it was _ it's also kind of a form of energy. it was to— it's also kind of a form of energy. it was to a — it's also kind of a form of energy. it was to a certain extent that we don't _ it was to a certain extent that we don't like. it was too much. british number one emma raducanu is out of the stuttgart open after losing to former french open championjelena ostapenko. the world number ten completed the first round win injust 58 minutes — this deep forehand

sealing the victory. it was raducanu's first match of the year on clay and the defeat means she's now without a victory since the beginning of march. the first round match at the world snooker championship between robert milkins and joe perry, which was disrupted by protestors on monday, has resumed. climate protestors threw orange powder on the table, forcing officials to postpone it. these are live pictures from the crucible theatre in sheffield. joe perry leads that one — he's ahead 6—1. the first to ten frames will progress to the next round. you can follow all the scores and reaction on the bbc sport website and bbc sport app. last year's runner—upjudd trump has work to do after falling 6—3 behind against scotland's anthony mcgill. trump led 2—0 and 3—2 against the world number 21, but mcgill rattled off the final

four frames of the session to threaten an upset against the 2019 champion. jonny bairstow says he will be available for england's first test of the summer, after recovering from a broken leg and dislocated ankle. bairstow hasn't played since he injured himself by slipping while playing golf last september. he's won the wisden trophy test award for his performance against india last summer and hopes to be back on the field in the next few weeks. it's not been easy. at all. it's been — it's not been easy. at all. it's been my— it's not been easy. at all. it's been my first _ it's not been easy. at all. it's been my first long—term i it's not been easy. at all. it'si been my first long—term injury it's not been easy. at all. it's - been my first long—term injury over however— been my first long—term injury over however many _ been my first long—term injury over however many years _ been my first long—term injury over however many years i've _ been my first long—term injury over however many years i've now- been my first long—term injury over however many years i've now been| however many years i've now been playing. _ however many years i've now been playing. and — however many years i've now been playing. and just _ however many years i've now been playing, and just dealing _ however many years i've now been playing, and just dealing with i however many years i've now been playing, and just dealing with that| playing, and just dealing with that itself _ playing, and just dealing with that itself has — playing, and just dealing with that itself has been _ playing, and just dealing with that itself has been tricky _ playing, and just dealing with that itself has been tricky at _ playing, and just dealing with that itself has been tricky at times, i playing, and just dealing with that| itself has been tricky at times, but we're _ itself has been tricky at times, but we're getting — itself has been tricky at times, but we're getting through _ itself has been tricky at times, but we're getting through that - itself has been tricky at times, but we're getting through that and i itself has been tricky at times, but we're getting through that and it's| we're getting through that and it's all about— we're getting through that and it's all about this _ we're getting through that and it's all about this summer. _ we're getting through that and it's all about this summer. it's - we're getting through that and it's all about this summer. it's going i we're getting through that and it's. all about this summer. it's going to be a really— all about this summer. it's going to be a really exciting _ all about this summer. it's going to be a really exciting spectacle, - all about this summer. it's going to be a really exciting spectacle, so i be a really exciting spectacle, so it's immanent— be a really exciting spectacle, so it's immanent and _ be a really exciting spectacle, so it's immanent and we're - be a really exciting spectacle, so it's immanent and we're not- be a really exciting spectacle, so it's immanent and we're not far. be a really exciting spectacle, so i it's immanent and we're not far away and things— it's immanent and we're not far away and things are — it's immanent and we're not far away and things are tracking _ it's immanent and we're not far away and things are tracking in— it's immanent and we're not far away and things are tracking in the right i and things are tracking in the right direction —

that is all from the world of sport for now. thanks for watching. hello. so far this month, the weather's been drier, sunny and warmer than average in scotland. and certainly for tuesday, there was loads more sunshine. look at this stunning weather watcher picture for the second day on the run, highland scotland had the day's highest temperature, up to 21 degrees. why is it so warm here at the moment? well, it's down to the scottish mountains. you see, it's quite windy for most parts of the uk, but those mountains high enough to block the winds. and so, with lighter winds here, more of the sun's energy is used to boost temperatures, whereas in those places where it's quite windy, some of that sun's heat get mixed through a larger depth of the atmosphere, so it never gets quite so warm. overnight tonight, we do have cloudy skies for england and wales, developing with an odd shower in the southwest. the clearer skies in scotland, that's where we'll see the lowest temperatures heading into wednesday. now, on the face of it, high pressure stays in charge for at least the next couple of days. still, with the winds coming in from an easterly direction, however, there will be more

in the way of cloud for england and wales on wednesday, an odd shower for the southwest. the best of the sunshine in the morning in scotland and northern ireland, but increasingly we should see sunshine developing elsewhere as we go through the afternoon. it'll continue to feel quite chilly with the onshore winds across the east coast of scotland and northern ireland, the highest temperature in the west and again, in the highlands, temperatures should reach the high teens, if not the low 20s. now, we have some slightly cooler air working in on thursday. again, it's going to be a largely dry day, but in the sunshine, i suppose it will still feel ok if you're out of the wind. it is across the north sea coast where you'll continue to feel a certain chill due to those brisk and gusty onshore winds. beyond that, we start to see a change in the weather patterns through friday and the weekend as pressure starts to fall. this area of low pressure will then develop, bringing outbreaks of rain increasingly, that rain travels northwards into the weekend. so, on friday, still sunny skies for scotland and for northern ireland — little overall change in the weather pattern here. but for england, wales, a much

cloudier day with outbreaks of rain developing, and with less sunshine, still those brisk winds and the rain, it looks like it's going to be quite a chilly day. just 9 degrees in birmingham at 10 for cardiff, but similar kind of weather and temperatures for northern ireland and scotland. on into the weekend, rain does move northwards into scotland and northern ireland, and then into next week, quite cold for april. average temperatures, 15 in london, willjust be 10 early next week.

tonight at ten — the crisis deepens for scotland's ruling party — the treasurer of the snp is the second figure to be arrested. colin beattie was questioned by police investigating the snp's finances, and was released pending further inquiries this evening. just a few weeks ago, the party's former chief executive and husband of nicola sturgeon was arrested as part of the same inquiry — the new party leader says today's development is clearly a serious matter. i've said already that people are innocent until proven guilty. there is change that is needed within the way the party is operated, i have made that absolutely clear. we'll have the latest on the troubles engulfing the scottish national party. also tonight — a sensational development in the us courts.