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able to self improve, you have the example _ able to self improve, you have the example of— able to self improve, you have the example of the _ able to self improve, you have the example of the google _ able to self improve, you have the example of the google being - able to self improve, you have the example of the google being able| able to self improve, you have the . example of the google being able to teach itself — example of the google being able to teach itself even _ example of the google being able to teach itself even though _ example of the google being able to teach itself even though nobody- teach itself even though nobody knows _ teach itself even though nobody knows how _ teach itself even though nobody knows how it _ teach itself even though nobody knows how it can _ teach itself even though nobody knows how it can do _ teach itself even though nobody knows how it can do that. - teach itself even though nobody knows how it can do that. we i teach itself even though nobody. knows how it can do that. we need teach itself even though nobody- knows how it can do that. we need to have a _ knows how it can do that. we need to have a sensible — knows how it can do that. we need to have a sensible conversation - knows how it can do that. we need to have a sensible conversation about i have a sensible conversation about where _ have a sensible conversation about where the — have a sensible conversation about where the limits _ have a sensible conversation about where the limits are. _ have a sensible conversation about where the limits are. $5— have a sensible conversation about where the limits are.— where the limits are. as the government _ where the limits are. as the government being - where the limits are. as the government being too - where the limits are. as the - government being too complacent? i do not know. my training was in archaeology and the mesopotamian swept _ archaeology and the mesopotamian swept back on al. i need to know more _ swept back on al. i need to know more because this is the future and it is happening. —— did not know much _ it is happening. —— did not know much on — it is happening. —— did not know much on al _ it is happening. —— did not know much on al. this will be affecting the economy in the uk and it is an international thing. we have had much _ international thing. we have had much more regulation and attention on medical— much more regulation and attention on medical ethics around genetic engineering, where we need to have a serious, _ engineering, where we need to have a serious, grown—up debate, that we can issue _ serious, grown—up debate, that we can issue a — serious, grown—up debate, that we can issue a regulation for but politicians need to understand this more _ politicians need to understand this more the — politicians need to understand this more. the same applies here because ai is
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more. the same applies here because al is going _ more. the same applies here because al is going to— more. the same applies here because ai is going to be and is already hugely— ai is going to be and is already hugely powerful and will have implications for crime, for impersonation and disinformation. it is not _ impersonation and disinformation. it is notiust_ impersonation and disinformation. it is notjust the uk needs to do more, the whole _ is notjust the uk needs to do more, the whole world needs to work out how we _ the whole world needs to work out how we will benefit proportionately and legally and safely across the world _ and legally and safely across the world and it will be a huge challenge. world and it will be a huge challenge-— world and it will be a huge challenge. world and it will be a huge challenue. . , , . ., challenge. that is why i am worried about the approach _ challenge. that is why i am worried about the approach this _ challenge. that is why i am worried | about the approach this government is taking because learn the lessons of social media. we did not have much regulation and the world spent a lot of time trying to catch up with the impact as a result, by not working with europe. i take your point about china but i look at the us and europe and the contrast in the way the uk is acting has two implications, one we are setting up the uk to be a single estate on this way you talk about it being a regulatory sandbox which means they will be testing things in the uk first which i am not comfortable with when we do not know what those tests will be. secondly from a
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business perspective, you're setting up business perspective, you're setting up two different regulatory regimes. if you're one of those companies, where he worked as the uk or with the us and european markets which are much bigger with more potential? it makes much more sense to collaborate with you —— my european colleagues and americans like we did not do with social media. now we are trying to catch up. it is exactly how it is used about claims that are going to be made. nobody is more pleased than i am with ed sheeran and his case but there are results impacting on the economy and people's trust and society. acting alone is not the way to protect the public. i alone is not the way to protect the ublic. ., ., ,, . ., public. i do not think we are going alone. i think— public. i do not think we are going alone. i think we _ public. i do not think we are going alone. i think we are _ public. i do not think we are going alone. i think we are doing - public. i do not think we are going alone. i think we are doing it - alone. i think we are doing it differently- _ alone. i think we are doing it differently. doing _ alone. i think we are doing it differently. doing it - alone. i think we are doing it i differently. doing it differently does not mean _ differently. doing it differently does not mean going - differently. doing it differently does not mean going alone. i differently. doing it differently - does not mean going alone. there had been slit _ does not mean going alone. there had been slit splits — does not mean going alone. there had been slit splits between _ does not mean going alone. there had been slit splits between the _ does not mean going alone. there had been slit splits between the us - does not mean going alone. there had been slit splits between the us and .
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been slit splits between the us and europe _ been slit splits between the us and europe about — been slit splits between the us and europe about technology— been slit splits between the us andi europe about technology regulation, the uk _ europe about technology regulation, the uk has _ europe about technology regulation, the uk has been _ europe about technology regulation, the uk has been a _ europe about technology regulation, the uk has been a pioneer— europe about technology regulation, the uk has been a pioneer in - europe about technology regulation, the uk has been a pioneer in some i the uk has been a pioneer in some stages _ the uk has been a pioneer in some stages especially— the uk has been a pioneer in some stages. especially online _ the uk has been a pioneer in some stages. especially online safety. i stages. especially online safety. no, no, — stages. especially online safety. no, no, we _ stages. especially online safety. no, no, we did— stages. especially online safety. no, no, we did it— stages. especially online safety. no, no, we did it independently| stages. especially online safety. - no, no, we did it independently and we were— no, no, we did it independently and we were ahead _ no, no, we did it independently and we were ahead of— no, no, we did it independently and we were ahead of the _ no, no, we did it independently and we were ahead of the eu _ no, no, we did it independently and we were ahead of the eu at- no, no, we did it independently and we were ahead of the eu at that - we were ahead of the eu at that time _ we were ahead of the eu at that time the — we were ahead of the eu at that time. the issue _ we were ahead of the eu at that time. the issue here _ we were ahead of the eu at that time. the issue here is- we were ahead of the eu at that time. the issue here is it - we were ahead of the eu at that time. the issue here is it is - we were ahead of the eu at that time. the issue here is it is not| time. the issue here is it is not just— time. the issue here is it is not just about _ time. the issue here is it is not just about regulatory— time. the issue here is it is not. just about regulatory sandboxing time. the issue here is it is not - just about regulatory sandboxing but allowing _ just about regulatory sandboxing but allowing and — just about regulatory sandboxing but allowing and understanding - just about regulatory sandboxing but allowing and understanding researchj allowing and understanding research facilities, _ allowing and understanding research facilities, not— allowing and understanding research facilities, notjust_ allowing and understanding research facilities, notjust private _ facilities, notjust private business. _ facilities, notjust private business, about- facilities, notjust private business, about the - facilities, notjust private - business, about the potential of ai and releasing _ business, about the potential of ai and releasing that _ business, about the potential of ai and releasing that so _ business, about the potential of ai and releasing that so cambridge . business, about the potential of all and releasing that so cambridge for example. _ and releasing that so cambridge for example, understanding— and releasing that so cambridge for example, understanding what - and releasing that so cambridge for example, understanding what you i and releasing that so cambridge for. example, understanding what you can do to benefit — example, understanding what you can do to benefit society _ example, understanding what you can do to benefit society but _ example, understanding what you can do to benefit society but also - do to benefit society but also understand _ do to benefit society but also understand the _ do to benefit society but also understand the limitations. l do to benefit society but also i understand the limitations. 0n do to benefit society but also - understand the limitations. 0n state regulation _ understand the limitations. 0n state regulation on — understand the limitations. 0n state regulation on these _ understand the limitations. 0n state regulation on these things, - understand the limitations. 0n state regulation on these things, it - understand the limitations. 0n state regulation on these things, it is - regulation on these things, it is state _ regulation on these things, it is state power— regulation on these things, it is state power so _ regulation on these things, it is state power so that _ regulation on these things, it is state power so that is _ regulation on these things, it is state power so that is why - regulation on these things, it is state power so that is why i - regulation on these things, it is l state power so that is why i make the comparison _ state power so that is why i make the comparison with _ state power so that is why i make the comparison with china - state power so that is why i make. the comparison with china because even _ the comparison with china because even on _ the comparison with china because even on social— the comparison with china because even on social media, _ the comparison with china because even on social media, the - the comparison with china becausej even on social media, the difficulty is giving _ even on social media, the difficulty is giving state _ even on social media, the difficulty is giving state power— even on social media, the difficulty is giving state power and _ even on social media, the difficulty is giving state power and authority| is giving state power and authority more _ is giving state power and authority more control— is giving state power and authority more control which _ is giving state power and authority more control which is— is giving state power and authority more control which is a _ is giving state power and authority more control which is a big - more control which is a big question _ more control which is a big question-— more control which is a big cuestion. , . . ~ more control which is a big cuestion. , . . ,, ., question. let me put that back to the professor. — question. let me put that back to the professor, watch _ question. let me put that back to the professor, watch a _ question. let me put that back to the professor, watch a response i question. let me put that back to l the professor, watch a response to what you just heard? that the professor, watch a response to what you just heard?— what you 'ust heard? that quite a lot auoin what you just heard? that quite a lot going on- _ what you just heard? that quite a lot going on. the _ what you just heard? that quite a lot going on. the idea _ what you just heard? that quite a lot going on. the idea that - what you just heard? that quite a lot going on. the idea that we - what you just heard? that quite a l lot going on. the idea that we don't understand enough yet to develop a
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set of regulations, i do not agree with that. a great deal is not already about potential risk and responses we can bring so regulation in terms of for instance requiring these new systems to be transparent so we know what they are doing when they make decisions, for instance decisions about medical treatment or who to hire and fire. we know why they do what they do. there should also be oversight in their use which also be oversight in their use which also means being sure we know how the systems are going to work out there in the wild before we release them out there in the wild which gets to the point whether we want the uk to be a sandbox for testing the uk to be a sandbox for testing the systems are real people. the lesson from social media is very important and lesson from social media is very importantand i'm lesson from social media is very important and i'm glad that was raised. we have seen how disruptive that can be just through its ability to amplify content but with these new ai systems, we now have the ability to generate contact —— content as well. when you put these
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together we are in dangerous territory. i think it is critical to say, the threshold we have crossed, it has been set for a long time ai will come and be disruptive but we have crossed a threshold recently, especially with these language ones. we now have systems which can convert with us as if there are other people. our psychology and make up is not calibrated to deal with these kind of systems. it cannot help but attribute them to things like thinking and believing and we take them seriously, regardless of what is going on under the hood. it does not matter whether they are intelligent or not, we cannot help shooting them in the way we treat other people and that is something we need to be careful of before releasing them into the wild. —— we cannot help treating them. many companies want regulation because it levels the playing field. at the moment the competitive advantage goes to companies less cautious and more willing to try whatever is put out there so regulation i think can help us to
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have a sustainable ai future in the uk. ., ~ , ., have a sustainable ai future in the uk. ., , , ., , have a sustainable ai future in the uk. ., y . ., have a sustainable ai future in the uk. thank you very much for “oining us and i am — uk. thank you very much for “oining us and i am sure i uk. thank you very much for “oining us and i am sure we * uk. thank you very much for “oining us and i am sure we willh uk. thank you very much forjoining us and i am sure we will return - uk. thank you very much forjoining us and i am sure we will return to i us and i am sure we will return to the subject again in the near future. i want to bring you some news, following on from the commissionerfor news, following on from the commissioner for standards who was looking at the prime minister's declaration of interest. we have just been told a newly published list of prime minister —— ministerial interest refers to the child care agency that rishi sunak�*s wife hold sharing following a row over the prime minister's declaration. why has that suddenly appeared? it was the absence that triggered this investigation, why do you —— what you make of that? i do you -- what you make of that? i do not know why _ you -- what you make of that? i do not know why it _ you -- what you make of that? i do not know why it has _ you —— what you make of that? i if not know why it has suddenly appeared, they appear from time to time. it was only a few months ago that rishi sunak became prime minister, he had to declare all interest as i did as a minister. it
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is a very rigorous exercise. you had to declare everything which is declared a bull to the permanent secretary of your department and it is a matter of public record. —— to clear rubble. it will then get published. he declared everything he needed to declare. he abided by the rules, there is nothing to see here. actually, it is true, reading on the as other news about s and that is actually the latest list of ministerial interest has been published but it had not been updated for almost a year so do you accept it was the first opportunity for the prime minister to actually update and he has done so? he. update and he has done so? no, because he _ update and he has done so? no, because he was _ update and he has done so? no, because he was asked on the liaison committee _ because he was asked on the liaison committee directly about the fact we have this _ committee directly about the fact we have this quirky policy on giving people — have this quirky policy on giving people more money to sign up to an agency— people more money to sign up to an agency to— people more money to sign up to an agency to be a childminder than helping — agency to be a childminder than helping people be a childminder because — helping people be a childminder because we need more childminders to
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tackle _ because we need more childminders to tackle the _ because we need more childminders to tackle the childcare crisis. he was asked _ tackle the childcare crisis. he was asked directly if you had any interest— asked directly if you had any interest to declare and he said no he did _ interest to declare and he said no he did not — interest to declare and he said no he did not. obviously his wife is a shareholder. what is more extraordinary is that he has been prime _ extraordinary is that he has been prime minister since november. six prime minister since november. months. we prime minister since november. s months. we have had quite a lot of scrutiny of his wife's business interest and it is extraordinary for most women to have so many business interests you forget what you need to declare which is clearly what happened but it is pertinent to why this government is choosing to give extra funding to agencies, like the one she is a shareholder and, instead of waiving the for a childminder in the first place. he didn't answer in the committee but he has it now. the didn't answer in the committee but he has it now— he has it now. the opposition is alwa s he has it now. the opposition is always going — he has it now. the opposition is always going on _ he has it now. the opposition is always going on about - he has it now. the opposition is always going on about the - he has it now. the opposition is always going on about the fact i he has it now. the opposition is i always going on about the fact the prime _ always going on about the fact the prime minister's wife has a deal of personal— prime minister's wife has a deal of personal wealth. prime minister's wife has a deal of personalwealth. she prime minister's wife has a deal of personal wealth. she has investments no doubt, _ personal wealth. she has investments no doubt, i_ personal wealth. she has investments no doubt, i don't know what they
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are _ no doubt, i don't know what they are now. — no doubt, i don't know what they are. now, we do. in hundreds of things _ are. now, we do. in hundreds of things i— are. now, we do. in hundreds of things. i doubt the prime minister even _ things. i doubt the prime minister even knew— things. i doubt the prime minister even knew she had an investment in a childcare _ even knew she had an investment in a childcare company, he declared everything, it is in the public record — everything, it is in the public record. . . . , everything, it is in the public record. . , ., ., record. that is really how the other half live. hold — record. that is really how the other half live. hold on. _ record. that is really how the other half live. hold on. to _ record. that is really how the other half live. hold on. to suggest - record. that is really how the other half live. hold on. to suggest as i half live. hold on. to suggest as has been made _ half live. hold on. to suggest as has been made here _ half live. hold on. to suggest as has been made here that - half live. hold on. to suggest as has been made here that our - half live. hold on. to suggest as i has been made here that our policy was made — has been made here that our policy was made by government specifically to benefit _ was made by government specifically to benefit a company in which the prime _ to benefit a company in which the prime minister's wife had a direct investment which i doubt he was aware _ investment which i doubt he was aware of. — investment which i doubt he was aware of, come on. so investment which i doubt he was aware of, come on.— investment which i doubt he was aware of, come on. so your defences the are aware of, come on. so your defences they are so — aware of, come on. so your defences they are so wealthy _ aware of, come on. so your defences they are so wealthy they _ aware of, come on. so your defences they are so wealthy they don't - aware of, come on. so your defences they are so wealthy they don't knowl they are so wealthy they don't know what they are making the money from so could not influence policy? the reason for asking why such a quirky approach of investing in childminding, the prime minister should have been aware of the potential of a conflict of interest. that is what the update is about. this is one of many subjects under the prime — this is one of many subjects under the prime minister had to refer to what _ the prime minister had to refer to what is _ the prime minister had to refer to what is in — the prime minister had to refer to what is in his register in front of
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every— what is in his register in front of every question he answers because his wife _ every question he answers because his wife happens to have a shareholding in something affecting education or health or whatever, it is ridiculous — education or health or whatever, it is ridiculous. he has declared everything he needed to declare, that has— everything he needed to declare, that has been published anti abided by the _ that has been published anti abided by the rules. try to make a conspiracy out of it is pretty desperate. this prime minister was the first— desperate. this prime minister was the first to — desperate. this prime minister was the first to publish his tax returns _ the first to publish his tax returns. he has been more financially transparent than any other— financially transparent than any other prime minister including the label party. i other prime minister including the label -a . . ., other prime minister including the label - . . ., . other prime minister including the labela . . ., . label party. i want to draw your attention to — label party. i want to draw your attention to this, _ label party. i want to draw your attention to this, the _ label party. i want to draw your attention to this, the uk - label party. i want to draw your l attention to this, the uk inflation rate. bbc news story, food prices rise up fastest rate for 45 years. it crucifying people, the chancellor and prime minister has said repeatedly it is their pledge to bring down half the level of roof —— inflation. the obr did say it would be down to 2.9% by the end of the year but it is still in double digit
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figures. year but it is still in double digit fiaures. ~ . . year but it is still in double digit fiaures. . . ,, ., figures. which is concerning. i know absolutely the _ figures. which is concerning. i know absolutely the impact _ figures. which is concerning. i know absolutely the impact it _ figures. which is concerning. i know absolutely the impact it is _ figures. which is concerning. i know absolutely the impact it is having i absolutely the impact it is having on the _ absolutely the impact it is having on the cost of living of my constituents. we need inflation to come _ constituents. we need inflation to come down as far and fast as possible _ come down as far and fast as possible. so come down as far and fast as possible-— come down as far and fast as ossible. , . , , possible. so why are they still risin: so possible. so why are they still rising so fast? _ possible. so why are they still rising so fast? this _ possible. so why are they still rising so fast? this month - possible. so why are they still rising so fast? this month it i possible. so why are they still- rising so fast? this month it would a- ear rising so fast? this month it would appear there _ rising so fast? this month it would appear there is _ rising so fast? this month it would appear there is still _ rising so fast? this month it would appear there is still higher - appear there is still higher inflation on food, milk has gone up 30%. _ inflation on food, milk has gone up 30%, ready— inflation on food, milk has gone up 30%, ready meals up 21% whilst energy— 30%, ready meals up 21% whilst energy and other bills have come down _ energy and other bills have come down i_ energy and other bills have come down. i hope in the next few months we will— down. i hope in the next few months we will see _ down. i hope in the next few months we will see much bigger falls but i don't _ we will see much bigger falls but i don't see — we will see much bigger falls but i don't see in one month's figures any reason _ don't see in one month's figures any reason to— don't see in one month's figures any reason to be — don't see in one month's figures any reason to be concerned that we will not reach _ reason to be concerned that we will not reach that target by the end of the year _ not reach that target by the end of the year it— not reach that target by the end of the ear. . ~ . not reach that target by the end of the ear. . ,, , , not reach that target by the end of the ear. . ~ , , . , the year. it ticked up but it has come down _ the year. it ticked up but it has come down to _ the year. it ticked up but it has come down to it _ the year. it ticked up but it has come down to it was _ the year. it ticked up but it has come down to it was a - the year. it ticked up but it has come down to it was a couple i the year. it ticked up but it has| come down to it was a couple of months ago, we are still not below the double—digit figures. let me show you the strap —— graph is a comparison. there is the uk at the top compared to italy, germany, france and the us. what would labour do to bring down inflation? there
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france and the us. what would labour do to bring down inflation?— do to bring down inflation? there is all sorts of things _ do to bring down inflation? there is all sorts of things you _ do to bring down inflation? there is all sorts of things you could - do to bring down inflation? there is all sorts of things you could do - do to bring down inflation? there is all sorts of things you could do to i all sorts of things you could do to tackle the inflationary pressures on the economy. it still means prices are still going up. yes. that is what keeps me awake at night, people with debts. you have to tackle the causes of inflation, economy, get growth going, those who don't have shares in company to rely on to pay their bills. you have to tackle personal debt which is why i want to see this government do more about companies profiting.— see this government do more about companies profiting. would labour be able to tackle — companies profiting. would labour be able to tackle it _ companies profiting. would labour be able to tackle it in _ companies profiting. would labour be able to tackle it in any _ companies profiting. would labour be able to tackle it in any significant - able to tackle it in any significant way, the office for national statistics says it is dependent on gas for food production and put —— and bad weather, what could labour do about that? tim and bad weather, what could labour do about that?— do about that? tim spoke against a windfall tax. .. _ do about that? tim spoke against a windfall tax... i— do about that? tim spoke against a windfall tax... i do _ do about that? tim spoke against a windfall tax... i do not _ do about that? tim spoke against a windfall tax. .. i do not but - do about that? tim spoke against a windfall tax. .. i do not butjust - windfall tax... i do not butjust not as— windfall tax... i do not butjust not as high— windfall tax... i do not butjust not as high as _ windfall tax... i do not butjust not as high as you _ windfall tax... i do not butjust not as high as you want - windfall tax... i do not butjust not as high as you want it. - windfall tax... i do not butjust not as high as you want it. letl windfall tax... i do not but 'ust not as high as you want it. let us talk about _ not as high as you want it. let us talk about our _ not as high as you want it. let us talk about our windfall _ not as high as you want it. let us talk about our windfall tax, - not as high as you want it. let us talk about our windfall tax, i - not as high as you want it. let us talk about our windfall tax, i am | talk about our windfall tax, i am glad to hear about a damascene conversion. what would labour do to bring down the headline inflation
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figure? bring down the headline inflation fiuure? . . , ., , figure? there are a number of things ou could figure? there are a number of things you could do. — figure? there are a number of things you could do. you — figure? there are a number of things you could do, you need _ figure? there are a number of things you could do, you need that - you could do, you need that investment, you need to tackle the fact that people cannot afford to feed themselves. most people do not have shares in fancy companies to cover their costs. there are things you can do about growth as well, rebalancing our economy, i am sure of the labour movement for europe and i want a stronger trading relationship with europe to get the money into economy and help businesses who have given up exporting. we have to solve issues in the economy but if you asked me if labour would crash the economy like kwasi kwarteng dead? no, absolutely not. the mess, it's him, you are laughing about it like you love about a lot of things but it is terrifying. a good example for me, one thing i would love to see as the pan—european mediterranean convention which makes it easier to explore and deal with the paperwork.
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businesses are crippled... lgrate explore and deal with the paperwork. businesses are crippled. . ._ businesses are crippled... we have prime minister _ businesses are crippled... we have prime minister questions _ businesses are crippled... we have prime minister questions coming i businesses are crippled... we have | prime minister questions coming up the next few minutes and my colleague oskar bentley will be watching and listening out for any statistics that needs further scrutiny. we will talk to him afterwards. interesting, you will probably remember brexiteers like jacob rees—mogg promising leaving the eu would result in cheaper food? you will have to askjacob why he said that — you will have to askjacob why he said that and ultimately, we will see what— said that and ultimately, we will see what happened when we start to trade with— see what happened when we start to trade with other parts of the world in one _ trade with other parts of the world in one of— trade with other parts of the world in one of the biggest trading agreements we have just done. we agreements we have 'ust done. we will see. agreements we have just done. will see. 8% agreements we have just done. , will see. 8% in our economy that will see. 8% in our economy that will add, that will not help. will see. 896 in our economy that will add, that will not help. you're interruoting- _ will add, that will not help. you're interrupting. interesting, - will add, that will not help. you're interrupting. interesting, what - interrupting. interesting, what explains— interrupting. interesting, what explains the figures at the moment is in this— explains the figures at the moment is in this country historically we've — is in this country historically we've always had cheap food so we have really— we've always had cheap food so we have really good big supermarkets who negotiate good market deals so
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when you _ who negotiate good market deals so when you have got really move food prices _ when you have got really move food prices already, you have the weather conditions _ prices already, you have the weather conditions as well as fuel prices, we are _ conditions as well as fuel prices, we are more susceptible to that and it inflames — we are more susceptible to that and it inflames the difference.— it inflames the difference. clearly about the disappointment - it inflames the difference. clearly about the disappointment of - about the disappointment of consumers and households is now. you look at things going up, obviously there _ look at things going up, obviously there is— look at things going up, obviously there is food, _ look at things going up, obviously there is food, housing _ look at things going up, obviously there is food, housing is - look at things going up, obviously there is food, housing is gone - look at things going up, obviously there is food, housing is gone up| there is food, housing is gone up 25%~ _ there is food, housing is gone up 25%~ part— there is food, housing is gone up 25%~ part of— there is food, housing is gone up 25%~ part of it _ there is food, housing is gone up 25%. part of it is— there is food, housing is gone up 25%. part of it is that— there is food, housing is gone up 25%. part of it is that budget - there is food, housing is gone up 25%. part of it is that budget youj 25%. part of it is that budget you are referring _ 25%. part of it is that budget you are referring to _ 25%. part of it is that budget you are referring to with _ 25%. part of it is that budget you are referring to with liz- are referring to with liz quartering, _ are referring to with liz quartering, sorry- are referring to with liz quartering, sorry liz. are referring to with liz- quartering, sorry liz truss. kwasi kwarteng — quartering, sorry liz truss. kwasi kwarteng and liz _ quartering, sorry liz truss. kwasi kwarteng and liz truss. - quartering, sorry liz truss. kwasi kwarteng and liz truss. we - quartering, sorry liz truss. kwasi kwarteng and liz truss. we are i quartering, sorry liz truss. kwasi i kwarteng and liz truss. we are not building _ kwarteng and liz truss. we are not building enough— kwarteng and liz truss. we are not building enough houses _ kwarteng and liz truss. we are not building enough houses in - kwarteng and liz truss. we are not building enough houses in the - building enough houses in the country — building enough houses in the country do— building enough houses in the count . ,, ,, building enough houses in the count . ,, , ,, , country. do you think rishi sunak is auoin to country. do you think rishi sunak is going to get — country. do you think rishi sunak is going to get and — country. do you think rishi sunak is going to get and achieve _ country. do you think rishi sunak is going to get and achieve his - country. do you think rishi sunak is going to get and achieve his pledge| going to get and achieve his pledge of halving inflation by the end of the year? of halving inflation by the end of the ear? ., u, of halving inflation by the end of the ear? ., _, the year? you could say he will get there but it — the year? you could say he will get there but it is _ the year? you could say he will get there but it is semantic _ the year? you could say he will get there but it is semantic because i there but it is semantic because having _ there but it is semantic because having inflationjust means you're going _ having inflationjust means you're going to _ having inflationjust means you're going to slow the rate of growth so the only— going to slow the rate of growth so the only way to tackle this as wage increases — the only way to tackle this as wage increases. ., ., . , . ,
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increases. you mention wages. prices rise

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