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boy band astro. hello from college green in westminster. i am... hello from college green in westminster. iam... thank hello from college green in westminster. i am... thank you for joining us. it is a bright and crisp day here, but the question that is really concentrating minds here is whether this could turn out to be a dark day for dominic raab, deputy prime minister and ukjustice secretary. we are awaiting the results of an inquiry into allegations of bullying from civil servants. just to bring you up to speed. this is an allegation that came more than five months ago about his behaviour as foreign secretary, brexit secretary and during his first stint as justice secretary. backin first stint as justice secretary. back in november prime minister appointed senior employment lawyer to examine these complaints against dominic raab by multiple civil
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servants. the outcome of this inquiry is what we are expecting to see the light of day in the coming hours, after which prime minister rishi sunak will give hisjudgment. he will pass his verdict on the future of his deputy prime minister. let's bring in rob watson, our political correspondent. just give us a flavour of how important this is today? to us a flavour of how important this is toda ? ., ., _, is today? to get it into context, it is today? to get it into context, it is important _ is today? to get it into context, it is important in — is today? to get it into context, it is important in the _ is today? to get it into context, it is important in the sense - is today? to get it into context, it is important in the sense that - is today? to get it into context, it| is important in the sense that rishi sunak now faces a difficult dilemma, depending on how clear—cut the reporters. to look at the dilemma within his own party and government and conservative party, there will be some who wanting to hang tough, unless the report is damning, saying we mustn't give in to political correctness. being a government minister will involve robust exchanges. he will also be under pressure to say, look, if there is evidence of bullying that he wants
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to lead a government that doesn't tolerate that. so there is the management within his own party. if dominic raab does have to go, then there will be questions about, well, hang on a minute, when did you, rishi sunak, know about these rumours about his behaviour? then if dominic raab has to go, they will be questions about who do you replace him with and what, if anything, well that due to the government's view on a justice? and in particular its relationship with the european court of human rights and this whole issue of human rights and this whole issue of how you deal with migrants crossing the channel. {line of how you deal with migrants crossing the channel.- of how you deal with migrants crossing the channel. one of the details in this _ crossing the channel. one of the details in this case _ crossing the channel. one of the details in this case that - crossing the channel. one of the details in this case that really i crossing the channel. one of the | details in this case that really has gotten peoples attention is the fact that the breadth and scale of the complaints, more than a dozen people, eight formal complaints, is that going to be difficult to survive? i that going to be difficult to survive? ~ �* , that going to be difficult to survive? ~ �*, ., ., ., survive? i think it's about to dozen complainants. _ survive? i think it's about to dozen complainants, and _ survive? i think it's about to dozen complainants, and we _ survive? i think it's about to dozen complainants, and we understand, survive? i think it's about to dozen l complainants, and we understand, i think it's important to understand
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from the outset, that dominic raab has very strongly deny this. —— two dozen. there is speculation about this report, the lawyer looking into it, he started in november and i've seen people saying, well, if it was really straightforward, it wouldn't have taken him that long to come to a conclusion and others are saying, well, no, hejust wants to be really thorough and that the report well still come to a strong conclusion. as i was saying, the dilemma rishi sunak will face, if the report isn't super clear—cut, one way or another, as to how he should act. i should say, at the beginning, you asked me and i was hesitating as to how big a deal this is. it is not a huge deal, in the sense that dominic raab is not a household name in british politics, people will know who he is. but i don't think he is somebody that people will be talking about around the dinner tables, but it
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does throw up all sorts of questions of huge interest of, how should politicians behave, how should anyone behave in an office context was of course, it does throw up that third order question about the future of british politics on justice matters. so is he the biggest fish in the british political see?— biggest fish in the british olitical see? ~ , ., biggest fish in the british oliticalsee? ~ , ., , political see? absolutely not. does this look like _ political see? absolutely not. does this look like a _ political see? absolutely not. does this look like a bit _ political see? absolutely not. does this look like a bit of— political see? absolutely not. does this look like a bit of a _ political see? absolutely not. does this look like a bit of a headache i this look like a bit of a headache for rishi sunak? absolutely it is. but worth bearing in mind what for rishi sunak? absolutely it is. but worth bearing in mind what he is t in: to but worth bearing in mind what he is trying to achieve _ but worth bearing in mind what he is trying to achieve it _ but worth bearing in mind what he is trying to achieve it since _ but worth bearing in mind what he is trying to achieve it since the - trying to achieve it since the rather turbulent times of liz truss and borisjohnson is to rehabilitate britain's image abroad, following brexit and also try to reassure voters at home that this is a calm, stable, no fuss, no drama kind of premiership and government. the im act premiership and government. the impact will — premiership and government. the impact will notjust premiership and government. the impact will not just be premiership and government. the impact will notjust be on dominic raab, but also on the prime minister, rishi sunak. thank you,
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rob, we will come back to you later. just let you know, we are watching door of downing street, just in case anything happens there and we will be able to go there as soon as it does. but, in the meantime, let's bring in professorsjohn curtis, joining us, too. just talk a little bit about what this moment means. rob watson was saying that what rishi sunak faces rob watson was saying that what rishi sunakfaces now is dilemma, do you agree? he rishi sunak faces now is dilemma, do ou auree? ., . rishi sunak faces now is dilemma, do ouauree? ., , . rishi sunak faces now is dilemma, do ou auree? ., , . . you agree? he does face a dilemma, because the — you agree? he does face a dilemma, because the truth _ you agree? he does face a dilemma, because the truth is _ you agree? he does face a dilemma, because the truth is that _ you agree? he does face a dilemma, because the truth is that dominic- because the truth is that dominic raab was one of his chief backers in the leadership bid that rishi sunak ran last summer. in the end he lost to liz truss and then eventually acquired office. indeed, liz truss did indeed not include mr raab in her cabinet, he went back to the backbenches, only then for rishi sunak to put him back into his cabinets, to put it back into the
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position of deputy first minister, despite the fact that there were already claims being made about the ethics of the way mr raab dealt with civil servants in his previous roles as a minister. so to that extent, at least, rishi sunak was repaying a debt, but in so doing, made a pretty important call, given that when the other things british and i was saying when he became prime minister, determined to re—down like a professional government, with integrity, etc. some people are expected but may be reappointing mr raab potentially would compromise the clarity of that objective. now we have to wait to see what the report says, may be the report will exonerate mr raab and british and it would have been shown to have exercised a good adjustments. but the downside is that maybe that is not the case. —— make a good
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judgment. i think another reason why rishi sunak is alternatively based on this is that one of the hopes that the conservative party have for trying to improve their position in the opinion polls is still about 17 points behind labour, election coming up in a couple of weeks, has rested very much on rishi sunak�*s personal popularity, he is still more popular than his party, there are hopes that by leading a competent, effective and honest government that rishi sunak might be able to get his party back out of the electoral doldrums. if indeed he is forced to sack mr raab, then this will be accused against him by the opposition to suggest that actually rishi sunak is no cleaner than some of his predecessors when it comes to appointing friends to office. that is really interesting, _ appointing friends to office. that is really interesting, what you are saying, thank you forjoining us with your thoughts. so no matter which way it goes, prime minister rishi sunak�*sjudgment which way it goes, prime minister rishi sunak�*s judgment on this will itself bejudged. let's
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rishi sunak�*s judgment on this will itself be judged. let's go to our political correspondent, chief political correspondent, chief political correspondent, chief political correspondent, nick eardley, nick, they say westminster as a postcode of rumours, what are you hearing?— you hearing? isn't “ust? what we know at the h you hearing? isn'tjust? what we know at the moment _ you hearing? isn'tjust? what we know at the moment is _ you hearing? isn'tjust? what we know at the moment is that - you hearing? isn'tjust? what we know at the moment is that the i you hearing? isn'tjust? what we - know at the moment is that the prime minister has the report and he is considering it carefully. what does that mean? well, they want say, downing street, when his verdict will be delivered, when he might tell us whether mr raab is keeping hisjob. the fact tell us whether mr raab is keeping his job. the fact that they are not telling us it will definitely be today suggests we may have a bit of time left to wait, in other words, it's not coming before lunchtime. but we are not certain, there is always a bit of a situation which happens when these reports are, or things like them, cemented by downing street doesn't want to give too much away. but westminster is braced for this it has been braced for it for a while and i can tell
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you that i've been chatting to a lot of politicians over the past few days, there are very different views on dominic raab. he has always denied bullying, but there are some politicians, including ministers, including some people who have worked with him who think that the testimony of the people who have given evidence to the senior lawyer who is looking at all of this, that the number of them, some of the testimony that has made its way into bbc reports and newspapers is damning and that mr raab will struggle to survive it. but there is a counterargument, coming from dominic raab allies which is that he can be reversed, yes, he's maybe not always the most friendly person to work for, but that doesn't necessarily make a bully. at the moment, the prime minister is setting in downing street are looking at the report, trying to lay out what it all means for dominic raab's future. ultimately that is rishi sunak�*s decision, he is the man who will make the call here on
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whether mr raab stays in a job, there are also to prospect of it is really... if it is really bad,, then the bag can choose to work but it has all being weighed up. can you la out in has all being weighed up. can you lay out in what — has all being weighed up. can you lay out in what the _ has all being weighed up. can you lay out in what the choices... - has all being weighed up. can you| lay out in what the choices... what their choices are for rishi sunak, what are the possible scenarios coming out? he what are the possible scenarios coming out?— what are the possible scenarios cominu out? .., . ~ . coming out? he could sack dominic raab and decide _ coming out? he could sack dominic raab and decide that _ coming out? he could sack dominic raab and decide that this _ coming out? he could sack dominic raab and decide that this report - coming out? he could sack dominic raab and decide that this report is l raab and decide that this report is so damning that there is no way mr raab can keep hisjob, that would be a personally difficult moment for the prime minister. simply because dominic raab was at a site throughout the leadership campaign for the conservative leadership last summer. so there is that. one is that mr raab could be told, look, this is bad, you are not going to survive it, fall on your sword, give him the chance to resign. the final prospect is that mr raab keeps his
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job and that he is told that he doesn't need to quit, maybe he needs toissue doesn't need to quit, maybe he needs to issue some sort of apology, may be the report is so grey, not black and white, there are grey areas, that mr raab feels like you can continue and rishi sunak allows him to try and do that in some form in government. but that is a tricky situation, i think, government. but that is a tricky situation, ithink, to government. but that is a tricky situation, i think, to see. government. but that is a tricky situation, ithink, to see. i government. but that is a tricky situation, i think, to see. i will tell you why. when rishi sunak became prime minister, when he stood in downing street and made that speech about how he was going to turn the government around and amid all of the economic and ethics crises using a time, he said professionalism and integrity would be bywords for his government. he said, himself, he set a really high bar. so he will have to judge himself against that bar, because he knows the public and everybody else will as well. so, look, there is a lot for rishi sunak to be weighing up lot for rishi sunak to be weighing up this lunchtime, when it comes to
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dominic raab, do not underestimate how big a moment this is for the government will stop dominic raab is a important man for rishi sunak, his new deputy per minister, probably will see him turn up to other blog on wednesday when rishi sunak is not on wednesday when rishi sunak is not on time for prime minister's questions. he is the man who stands in for the boss of the most important political moments of the week on a wednesday afternoon. he is important in that respect, he has been a key ally of rishi sunak since he announced he wanted to be prime minister and started standing for the tory leadership. and there is just one final thing to bear in mind. if mr raab does go this afternoon, he will be the third minister appointed by rishi sunak who has had to be either sacked, or has quit. gavin williamson, cabinet minister without portfolio, he was forced to resign over bullying claims. nadhim zahawi, tory chairman, he was sacked because he didn't declare that he has settled a
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tax bill with hmrc when he was serving as chancellor. he didn't declare that the prime minister. he was sacked for that. now dominic raab, potentially, could become the third person that rishi sunak has had to let go from his top team. we don't know, we will wait to see what the prime minister's verdict is. as i say, as we speak right now, he is looking over that report.— i say, as we speak right now, he is looking over that report. thank you very much- — looking over that report. thank you very much- just _ looking over that report. thank you very much. just to _ looking over that report. thank you very much. just to talk— looking over that report. thank you very much. just to talk about, - looking over that report. thank you very much. just to talk about, it. very much. just to talk about, it shouldn't be underestimated, saying this is an important moment, a significant choice that the prime minister, rishi sunak, will have to make but his deputy prime minister, having already lost two ministers, gavin williamson and nadhim zahawi, as nick was saying. let's now hear from our uk newsnight editor. i understand you have been getting some background to the situation that we find ourselves in now, particularly speaking to the civil servants who her at the heart of
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these complaints?— these complaints? yes, that is ri . ht. a these complaints? yes, that is right- a real — these complaints? yes, that is right. a real sense _ these complaints? yes, that is right. a real sense of- these complaints? yes, that is l right. a real sense of trepidation in some civil servants who have been waiting eagerly for this report, remember it has been months since it was announced, there are those who have made complaints, those who have worked with dominic raab at some point or other want to see whether conclusions are stopped and i understand that some at a senior level are considering resigning if he is not gone by the end of the week. if he has not gone, once this report comes out,. there are others adamant however, that dominic raab is a good man, that isjust assertive and has a dominating style of leadership. but what i can say is that, for civil servants, for some of those i have been speaking to in recent weeks, who have worked alongside him, there is a real sense that whatever happens, what happens, that whatever happens, what happens, that it could dictate their next steps. either professionally or also whether they want to continue working close to him or even
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consider moving to another department. consider moving to another department-— department. with all of the challenges _ department. with all of the challenges the _ department. with all of the challenges the government department. with all of the - challenges the government faces, with all of the problems there are to solve, the last thing you want is a division between the government and white all, the civil service. is this at all indicative of fractures within that relationship? —— white hole. or is this an isolated case? remember, the civil servants are the backbone of the government, these are the people who make government happen. they work alongside them, they were very hard and we also know that there has been strike actions, talk of a further strike action and this will, the government will not want to ruffle any feathers at this point and they will be watching closely as to how these civil servants react when this news comes to light later. i have interviewed some anonymously who have worked closely with dominic raab, interviewed a former civil servant who spoke to me in february, just to
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give you an example of what they said about his behaviour. apparently he expects people to turn up very quickly, without knowing why they are there, treating his private office with contempt and doing so publicly, they talked about long silences which, if you try to continue speaking, he would tell you to wait or stop talking. bullying can be very subjective, it can be sometime sometimes in the eye of the beholder, so there is division here between those who think actually he is a very assertive bass thatjust wants to get the job done and those who feel that his leadership technique is wrong, intimidating and does define as bullying. now it is over to the prime minister will make a decision as to what happens next. what i can say, with authority, is that there are some people who are really watching closely, or who work in government, because whatever happens could dictate the next steps. happens could dictate the next ste s. ., . happens could dictate the next stes. ., . ., . ., ., happens could dictate the next stes. ., . ., ., ., steps. you have touched on one of the interesting _ steps. you have touched on one of the interesting point _ steps. you have touched on one of the interesting point of _ steps. you have touched on one of the interesting point of this - steps. you have touched on one of the interesting point of this case, | the interesting point of this case, the interesting point of this case, the fact that bullying is
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subjective. and people who support dominic raab would say that he is just a demanding boss. and those who have made a complaint would say, no, this amounts to bullying. how you prove that is maybe not as, let's say, tax problems or a tax situation. is there unanimity within civil servants about this? or is the view there as divided as it is outside? ., .,, view there as divided as it is outside?— view there as divided as it is outside? ., �* , ., outside? from those i've spoken to there is a real _ outside? from those i've spoken to there is a real sense _ outside? from those i've spoken to there is a real sense that _ outside? from those i've spoken to there is a real sense that there - outside? from those i've spoken to there is a real sense that there is l there is a real sense that there is something wrong here. however, we have spoken to supporters of him, and i have said earlier, there adamant that he has done nothing wrong. that this is subjective, but it can be up to rishi sunak to interpret what the case says. our understanding is that he will not say whether he will be sacked or not, that'll be up to rishi sunak. and so he will looking at whether what adam tolley says is subjective
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oras what adam tolley says is subjective or as clear—cut. is there and it goesin or as clear—cut. is there and it goes in there that really do interpret as bullying or are they so general that they could be interpreted by one person as bullying but by another being directed? i think rishi sunak will have a toughjob directed? i think rishi sunak will have a tough job here to make that decision, but it is over to him and he will bejudged decision, but it is over to him and he will be judged by many as to how he will be judged by many as to how he handles this. he he will be judged by many as to how he handles this.— he handles this. he will have the final sa . he handles this. he will have the final say- lout — he handles this. he will have the final say. but i _ he handles this. he will have the final say. but i wonder— he handles this. he will have the final say. but i wonder whether i he handles this. he will have the i final say. but i wonder whether you get the sense that no matter which way this goes, this inquiry, will it shed some light or maybe because some changes in how the government does handle cases and claims and allegations like this? i does handle cases and claims and allegations like this?— does handle cases and claims and allegations like this? i think there will be some _ allegations like this? i think there will be some inside _ allegations like this? i think there will be some inside government l allegations like this? i think there i will be some inside government who will be some inside government who will be some inside government who will be pressing for change, who will be pressing for change, who will be pressing for change, who will be saying that as a result of this, perhaps behaviour has to change, the people of the pain in a certain way, but some people find certain way, but some people find certain things offensive —— that the people behave in a certain way. i
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think there will be more retention of how people behave. notjust in government, wear this story is about other big organisations too and how they behave and how there are questions over conduct. i think we are in an era where that conduct is really in the spotlight and so i don't think it willjust be government that will be looking at that, i think other large organisations will also be assessing how they handle things and how some people do define certain behaviour as bullying, was perhaps an older generation might not necessarily do that. weight those are some of the finer details. that. weight those are some of the finer details-— finer details. thank you for sharing that. let's cross _ finer details. thank you for sharing that. let's cross over _ finer details. thank you for sharing that. let's cross over and - finer details. thank you for sharing that. let's cross over and speak. finer details. thank you for sharing that. let's cross over and speak to | that. let's cross over and speak to a political correspondent with the guardian. as we await the results of this inquiry, eight formal complaints, more than two doesn't complaints, more than two doesn't
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complain is, how do you think it is going to go? == complain is, how do you think it is going to go?— going to go? -- two dozen complaints- _ going to go? -- two dozen complaints. i— going to go? -- two dozen complaints. i think- going to go? -- two dozen complaints. i think this - going to go? -- two dozen complaints. i think this is l going to go? -- two dozen i complaints. i think this is an independent investigation conducted more independently than is usually the case. it was not commission to the case. it was not commission to the ethics adviser, the normal route for such probes. that was because there was no person in that role at there was no person in that role at the time of the investigation beginning five months ago. i think there are really three options that we are going to see play out. first of all, rishi sunak decides to fine dominic raab, second of all, there might decide to fall on his sword and resign, orthird, the two might decide to fall on his sword and resign, or third, the two men decide he is likely going to stay put and deal with the political consequences of him remaining in post both as deputy minister mac and as justice secretary. post both as deputy minister mac and asjustice secretary. as we were reporting overnight. there was a torrent of outrage from visual to commend about his behaviour in the first place. but commend about his behaviour in the first lace. �* ., commend about his behaviour in the first lace. �* . ., . first place. but all of this has already proven _ first place. but all of this has already proven politically - first place. but all of this hasj already proven politically and financially costly for dominic set,
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he is even paying his own legal bills? , ~ , he is even paying his own legal bills? . ~ , ., �* he is even paying his own legal bills? . ~ . ., �* bills? he is. and they don't come chea -. bills? he is. and they don't come cheap- we _ bills? he is. and they don't come cheap- we also — bills? he is. and they don't come cheap. we also know— bills? he is. and they don't come cheap. we also know this - cheap. we also know this investigation is taking a very long time, much longer than most people expected when it was first announced. nearly 150 days, almost five months in the making, this is the crunch moment where his political future, really, the crunch moment where his politicalfuture, really, is on the prime minister's hands. bud political future, really, is on the prime minister's hands. and back in november. — prime minister's hands. and back in november, rishi— prime minister's hands. and back in november, rishi sunak _ prime minister's hands. and back in november, rishi sunak wouldn't i november, rishi sunak wouldn't really say whether he had heard about any informal complaints before this inquiry stop do you think that question will be asked after this? how much he knew about what we find in the results after they are released?— in the results after they are released?_ in the results after they are released? ~ , , h , released? absolutely. it's very difficult circumstances - released? absolutely. it's very difficult circumstances that. released? absolutely. it's very| difficult circumstances that civil servants sometimes find themselves in, where they are reluctance to make official or formal complaints
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about behaviour of prime minister's partly because they are worried about a black mark against the name or think that they can tough it out, that it or think that they can tough it out, thatitis or think that they can tough it out, that it is part of the job to deal with robust, confrontational ministers and sometimes the civil servants feel they will be a for longer than their little masters. so they decide to say nothing official. however, in this case, it seems that the three permanent secretaries at departments where dominic raab worked have been interviewed, suggesting that they have some sort of testimony and evidence to give, for example simon mcdonnell, former secretary at foreign office had spoken to raab on several occasions about how he treated his staff. i think there will be better questions about whether or not the system of complaints in the civil service is fit for both births after this initiation concludes. == fit for both births after this initiation concludes.- fit for both births after this initiation concludes. -- is fit for fact. initiation concludes. -- is fit for fact- civil _ initiation concludes. -- is fit for fact. civil servants _ initiation concludes. -- is fit for fact. civil servants aren't - initiation concludes. -- is fit for fact. civil servants aren't really| fact. civil servants aren't really
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known for her fuss. mandarin speakers, they play their cards close to their chest, is this quite unusual? it close to their chest, is this quite unusual? . ., , close to their chest, is this quite unusual? . . , , , unusual? it certainly is, they retard unusual? it certainly is, they regard themselves _ unusual? it certainly is, they regard themselves as - unusual? it certainly is, they regard themselves as being i unusual? it certainly is, they - regard themselves as being very professional individuals you don't feel that they have to go and complain about conduct every time that they are pushed particular hard. i think the scale of the complaint is very different here, we have heard that there are at least two dozen complaints that have been made about dominic raab since the guardian first uncovered some of the testimony against him. that has snowballed over time, as i think more people feel empowered to come forward and speak about the behaviour that they say they experience. obviously we should say that dominic raab denies all the allegations against him, says he acts perfectly professionally throughout all of this. but there are still people like the former conservative party chair, jake berry, thinks that dominic raab should not be allowed stay in post throughout the time this
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investigation went on. there are also questions whether prose is as well after british sunak is made up his mind about dominic raab. what might we believe there. thank you very much. might we believe there. thank you very much-— might we believe there. thank you ve much. . ~ ., ., , very much. thank you for “oining us. we very much. thank you for “oining us. we continue — very much. thank you for “oining us. we continue to t very much. thank you for “oining us. we continue to wait h very much. thank you for “oining us. we continue to wait for_ very much. thank you forjoining us. we continue to wait for the - very much. thank you forjoining us. we continue to wait for the results i we continue to wait for the results of that inquiry into allegations of bullying by the uk deputy prime minister dominic raab. if you're justjoining us and would like to have some idea of how he came to this, we have the newsroom. dominic rob was first elected in 2010 and served as minister under former he supported rishi sunak in the leadership election. so how can i wear these allegations are back to? the best reporting was on the 11th of november 2022 when the guardian reported that there were concerns that dominic rob oppose my behaviour. a day later the opposition party's and called for an
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investigation into those claims. on the 14th of november the prime minister said that he was unaware of any formal complaints against mr raab, whilst on the 16th of november we heard that he was facing an inquiry over two complaints. indeed, he wrote to the minister mac saying that he wanted an independent investigation. he also said that he had never tolerated any bullying. on the 23rd of november, number ten confirmed the independent investigation would be led by the lawyer adam tolley. that same day, the bbc�*s newsnight reported he could face other claims. the bbc's newsnight reported he could face other claims.- the bbc's newsnight reported he could face other claims. there are more questions _ could face other claims. there are more questions for _ could face other claims. there are more questions for the _ could face other claims. there are more questions for the lefty - more questions for the lefty minister mac dominic raab tonight of his conduct in office. newsnight has been told that several of mr raab was my former private secretaries are preparing to submit formal bullying complaints against him. {lin bullying complaints against him. on the 25th of november we learned that the 25th of november we learned that the investigation extended to a third complaint, whilst on the 14th
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of december number ten said that five more complaints about the justice secretary were being investigated. the guardian published this article on the 25th of january saying that at least 21i civil servants were involved in the complaints against dominic raab. during prime minister's questions on the 1st of february, the prime ministerfaced questions the 1st of february, the prime minister faced questions about what he knew about the claims. that is what he told our political correspondent.— what he told our political correspondent. what he told our political corres-ondent. ~ . , . . correspondent. whether any concerns, even informal — correspondent. whether any concerns, even informal once _ correspondent. whether any concerns, even informal once rated _ correspondent. whether any concerns, even informal once rated you - correspondent. whether any concerns, even informal once rated you at - even informal once rated you at conduct of dominic raab before you were appointed official deputy? i don't recognise the characterisations of dominic's behaviour and i also was not and i'm not aware _ behaviour and i also was not and i'm not aware of— behaviour and i also was not and i'm not aware of any formal complaints. i not aware of any formal complaints. i asked _ not aware of any formal complaints. i asked if— not aware of any formal complaints. i asked if there were any informal? there is a formal complaints process and that— there is a formal complaints process and that is— there is a formal complaints process and that is the important thing that people _ and that is the important thing that people should avail themselves of if they have _ people should avail themselves of if they have. did people should avail themselves of if the have. . . ., . , they have. did anyone or any document — they have. did anyone or any document raise _ they have. did anyone or any document raise any - they have. did anyone or any document raise any concernsj they have. did anyone or any - document raise any concerns about his behaviour? i was not and i'm not aware of any formal complaints about dominic's behaviour. {lin aware of any formal complaints about dominic's behaviour.— dominic's behaviour. on the of february dominic— dominic's behaviour. on the of
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february dominic appeared - dominic's behaviour. on the of february dominic appeared on | dominic's behaviour. on the of. february dominic appeared on the dominic's behaviour. on the of- february dominic appeared on the bbc one and said he would resign if the bullying claims were upheld. i5 bullying claims were upheld. is there like a bully? no. - bullying claims were upheld. is there like a bully? no. i'm - there like a bully? no. i'm confident— there like a bully? no. i'm confident i _ there like a bully? no. i'm confident i behave - there like a bully? no. i'm - confident i behave professionally throughout. we know there are a form of conveyance against the jeopardy minister— of conveyance against the jeopardy minister mac, some of those from civil servants and at least 24 people — civil servants and at least 24 . eo . i ~. ., ., , civil servants and at least 24 new; ., ., , ., people are involved. it is worth re-emphasising _ people are involved. it is worth re-emphasising that _ people are involved. it is worth re-emphasising that dominic. people are involved. it is worth i re-emphasising that dominic raab re—emphasising that dominic raab himself has vehemently denied all of the allegations. some very useful background of how we got to this point. let's bring in professorjohn curtis to talk a little bit more about the fact that the bite now stops with rishi sunak. he has to make the judgment, the bite now stops with rishi sunak. he has to make thejudgment, he is the arbiter of what is accepted behaviour —based demo based on this inquiry. does that also mean there is no way he can distance himself from what happens here now? it’s from what happens here now? it's ve
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from what happens here now? it�*s very difficult game to distance himself. partly because we have been saying just like what he said when he became prime minister, that he was going to write administration and that was a professional and focused on integrity. but also because he set a high barfor himself from the fact he is he has also sacked two ministers. i think unless the report is clearly exonerating mr raab that balance of political abide advantage to rishi sunak is in favour of the sacking dominic raab, even though mr raab was a very close ally of the prime minister during last summer's tory leadership crisis. so we shouldn't underestimate the pressure that the prime minister is now feeling. as he reads and decides what to do about this report stop presumably it will tell us in... —— presumably he will tell us in... —— presumably he will tell us in not too long a time of what he's going to do.- tell us in not too long a time of what he's going to do. thank you. we continue to wait _ what he's going to do. thank you. we continue to wait for— what he's going to do. thank you. we
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continue to wait for the _ what he's going to do. thank you. we continue to wait for the results - what he's going to do. thank you. we continue to wait for the results of - continue to wait for the results of that inquiry, we are watching downing street, this is bbc news, do stay with us. rishi sunak has just received the independent report into allegations of bullying against the deputy prime minister, dominic raab.— of bullying against the deputy prime minister, dominic raab. number ten sa s the minister, dominic raab. number ten says the prime _ minister, dominic raab. number ten says the prime minister _ minister, dominic raab. number ten says the prime minister is _ says the prime minister is considering the findings about as deputy and mustjudge whether he broke the ministerial rules. dominic raab has always _ broke the ministerial rules. dominic raab has always denied _ broke the ministerial rules. dominic raab has always denied bullying, i broke the ministerial rules. dominic| raab has always denied bullying, but a leading lawyer was looking into eight formal complaints. the prime minister now has a big call to make. the latest from westminster. also the latest from westminster. also this lunchtime _ the latest from westminster. also this lunchtime and _ the latest from westminster. also this lunchtime and we want? fatai! medical— this lunchtime and we want? fatai! medical leaders say the junior doctor strikes in england are seriously affecting patient care, they urge independent arbitration to end the pay dispute.
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