we re were deemed to be meetings were deemed to be threatening, although the report noted that dominic raab didn't intend to be intimidating and wasn't aware he being intimidating but all of this, to characterise all of this, we need to start with this definition in the report about what bullying actually is. it's not a legally defined terminus of the purpose of this report, the civil service definition of bullying is that "the legitimate, reasonable and constructive criticism of a's performance will not amount to bullying. it is intimidating or insulting behaviour that makes an individual feel uncomfortable, frightened, less respected or put down." that's the key question here. and if wejump down." that's the key question here. and if we jump forward to the conclusions of this report it describes dominic rab�*s conduct during this time as "on occasion as abrasive in the sense of a personal style which is and feels intimidating or insulting to the individual, but is not intended to

be sore." it reports that "his conduct was not abusive and sense of the behaviour that was intended or specifically targeted." making a key distinction. it talks about dominic raab being able to "regulate this kind of abrasive nature." we also have examples here and if i take you to the next page... and we can see here. it says, "i found that the deputy prime minister's connor cannot be characterised as offensive, malicious or insulting. it was experience is intimidating in the sense of excessively demanding and i could not make a finding as to whether it was in fact intimidating in the sense. there was no evidence to suggest any abuse or misuse of power." also, if we go down to the next page, we can see here that we are talking again about intimidating

behaviour. "unreasonably and persistently aggressive conduct in a work meeting." and here we can see that he complained that he needed staff to be giving him the basic information and when he was unhappy with what they were giving him, he talked about being obstructive in of officials and who he believes to be resistant as policies and describing some of their workers as "opt early uses woeful." he says the report goes on to say "that he did not intend by the comet to upset or humiliate or target anyone for a specific type of treatment." that some of the conclusions that have come out of this report but 48 pages and we are going through line by line here. , . ~ ., , line here. this get back to it. this peter william _ line here. this get back to it. this peter william atkinson _ line here. this get back to it. this peter william atkinson who - line here. this get back to it. this peter william atkinson who is - line here. this get back to it. this. peter william atkinson who is from the conservative home. thank you for being here. first of all this your reaction to this which is broken in the last couple of minutes. alex

chalk is replacement. mex. in the last couple of minutes. alex chalk is replacement.— in the last couple of minutes. alex chalk is replacement. alex chalk is well liked, he _ chalk is replacement. alex chalk is well liked, he has— chalk is replacement. alex chalk is well liked, he has a _ chalk is replacement. alex chalk is well liked, he has a slim majority l well liked, he has a slim majority in cheltenham but he has been in the department before having served in a variety ofjunior mr wilson's 2020. he was the minister after rishi sunak became prime so you will know the department while which might serve him well but then dominic raab knew the department well but that didn't stop what seems to be a coordinated number of civil servants aiming to force him out... let’s aiming to force him out... let's stick with _ aiming to force him out... let's stick with dominic _ aiming to force him out... let's stick with dominic raab - aiming to force him out... let's stick with dominic raab then. l aiming to force him out... let's stick with dominic raab then. what you make of what happened? i think ou could you make of what happened? i think you could very _ you make of what happened? i think you could very simply _ you make of what happened? i think you could very simply say _ you make of what happened? i think you could very simply say that - you could very simply say that dominic raab has been bullied out of a job. dominic raab has been bullied out of ajob. from dominic raab has been bullied out of a job. from the looks of it, the standards that were used in this investigation he has pointed out in his article today for the telegraph that they deal with a series of allegations for a period of over

four years or more, most of which have been dismissed, and in every case finds that essentially dominic raab has only been found to have bullied an individual but not embody them but to have acted in the way in meetings which has annoyed people simply by being a relatively demanding boss. iwouldn�*t simply by being a relatively demanding boss. i wouldn't say that's bullying and it seems that budding is very much in the eye of the beholder... the budding is very much in the eye of the beholder...— budding is very much in the eye of the beholder... the prime minister rishi sunak — the beholder... the prime minister rishi sunak said _ the beholder... the prime minister rishi sunak said it _ the beholder... the prime minister rishi sunak said it was _ the beholder... the prime minister rishi sunak said it was right - the beholder... the prime minister rishi sunak said it was right for - rishi sunak said it was right for him to resign so the promise wrong? i would say that perhaps dominic raab shouldn't have resigned and perhaps the prime minister is taking some time to mull this decision and it looks like dominic raab has made the decision for him. i think rishi sunak was generally torn and clear that two allegations, or whatever validity have been upheld by the investigation, it suggests that bullying was going on. but as i say, bullying was going on. but as i say, bullying seems to be in the eye of the beholder so rishi sunak didn't

want to loose debris prime minister, but raab's forces and for him. i don't think dominic raab should have resigned. the don't think dominic raab should have resiuned. , ., don't think dominic raab should have resiuned. ,., w resigned. the report said he acted in a manner— resigned. the report said he acted in a manner which _ resigned. the report said he acted in a manner which is _ in a manner which is intimidating. you don't care? again, intimidation seems to be in the eye of the beholder and from what i know of dominic raab and my experience of him, he is a relatively cold fish in a hard boss, but it seems that the bigger problem here is the fragility of staff within the civil service. there is no suggestion here that he was ever actually aiming to bully someone nor campaign against individuals. it's merely that he demanded high standards of the staff and they refuse to deliver it. there are obviously _ and they refuse to deliver it. there are obviously different _ and they refuse to deliver it. there are obviously different ways - and they refuse to deliver it. there are obviously different ways of - are obviously different ways of demanding high standards, not every single minister who has a demanding high standard has this level of detail and report coming out against them. , , g ,, , detail and report coming out against them. ,, g,, them. yes, but jesse. .. is at the criticism of _ them. yes, but jesse. .. is at the criticism of sabella _

them. yes, but jesse. .. is at the criticism of sabella braverman i them. yes, but jesse. .. is at the | criticism of sabella braverman -- them. yes, but jesse. .. is at the - criticism of sabella braverman -- so criticism of sabella braverman —— so and... we have lots of reports of civil servants disagreeing with the government policies and being uninterested in storing them anything is well known that the department ofjustice is a bit of a basket case ants from the looks of it, dominic raab run up against a lot of internal opposition and he tried to get his department were for him and has led to what seems and he might be justified him and has led to what seems and he might bejustified in him and has led to what seems and he might be justified in saying that it was a coordinated campaign to try and get rid of him. especially as loss of these allegations were not raised in time and it only emerged subsequently either by the media or... what's your evidence for saying there is a coordinated campaign? that's what dominic raab has suggested in his article as to what's going on. he said he was made aware by various officials that there was a campaign in his

department tried to get him out. i think that's what i have read his explanation in the telegraph today. giving you a simple to him, what do you think the future lies for him? about his popularity and the wider party, that is significant, duty does way back?— party, that is significant, duty doeswa back? , j , does way back? yes, they'd probably is. ithink does way back? yes, they'd probably is. i think rishi _ does way back? yes, they'd probably is. i think rishi sunak _ does way back? yes, they'd probably is. i think rishi sunak is _ does way back? yes, they'd probably is. i think rishi sunak is clearly - is. i think rishi sunak is clearly to raab, he wouldn't have made as deputy prime minster as he was a close ally and i think he would be a loyal supporter of the backbenches. however, he does have a small majority in a key target seat for the liberal democrats and from the looks of it, i think he would struggle to bids in the next general election so he will probably spend the next year or so trying to focus on keeping his seat.— the next year or so trying to focus on keeping his seat. william, stay there and we _ on keeping his seat. william, stay there and we will— on keeping his seat. william, stay there and we will show— on keeping his seat. william, stay there and we will show live - there and we will show live pictures. i want to bring you this line which is dropped and our live page. oliver dowden has been

appointed deputy prime minister. what's your reaction to that? i think that's probably a good appointment. he is one of rishi sunak�*s closest allies and all of political friends. sunak�*s closest allies and all of politicalfriends. he is already essentially operating as deputy prime minister, he is doing the coordinating by the sensitive strikes policy and also soon a's for cancer across whitehall and emerging from the... just cancer across whitehall and emerging from the... g , ,., cancer across whitehall and emerging from the... g , i. cancer across whitehall and emerging fromthe... , ~ ., ., from the... just so you know, on the screen next — from the... just so you know, on the screen next to _ from the... just so you know, on the screen next to you _ from the... just so you know, on the screen next to you is _ from the... just so you know, on the screen next to you is some - from the... just so you know, on the screen next to you is some live - screen next to you is some live pictures of the ministry ofjustice where we are expecting dominic raab's successor to arrive at any point soon. they should be walking through those doors but we don't know when. if ijump in and jump across you, that will be why. as we are talking we will leave the pictures up there. oliver dowden, was a surprise... we could have had

a situation where other senior members of the cabinet would act as an informal deputy prime minister. it wasn't an absolute requirement to fulfil that role.— fulfil that role. yes, there is no contribution _ fulfil that role. yes, there is no contribution requirement - fulfil that role. yes, there is no contribution requirement for i fulfil that role. yes, there is no| contribution requirement for the prime minister to have a deputy. we have had a variety of first secretary of states or deputy prime minister is in the sense and is becoming a more regular position. i think the choice of appointing dowden is bringing his effect into the spotlight and i think it allows some coherence and policy. michelle donnellan is about also to go on maternity leave and so they will hope to have may be a mini shuffle to fill her position and also a new ministerfor to fill her position and also a new minister for defence will need to be found to replace alex chalk. that will be a small headache for the prime minister but i think he will hope to make as few changes as possible so that a wider reshuffle

is not required so soon after he had one a couple of months ago. i’m one a couple of months ago. i'm aroin to one a couple of months ago. i'm going to put _ one a couple of months ago. i'm going to put you completely unfairly on the spot and completely test your knowledge of current mps and junior ministers because we have a little list here of the confirmation of some of the changes. i'm going to run through them and as you listen just pick up and i will get you to what you think we should point your attention towards... alex chalk, the minister for state and the mod, gareth davies as exchequer secretary for the treasury and the chancellor of the literacy of lancashire oliver dowden who has been appointed debris prime minister as we said in addition and there are a couple of more. michelle donnellan as a minister on leave and there are a few more. what you make of that initial list? i few more. what you make of that initial list? ., �* ~ few more. what you make of that initial list?— initial list? i don't think there are any surprises. _ initial list? i don't think there

are any surprises. it's - initial list? i don't think there are any surprises. it's a - initial list? i don't think there i are any surprises. it's a shuffling of the deck. there are no names that leapt at me particularly. he will have been sad to see raab's departure and he has a new position for insults i'm sure he'll be focused on that.— for insults i'm sure he'll be focused on that. i'm 'ust more widel , focused on that. i'm 'ust more widely. how h focused on that. i'm 'ust more widely, how do _ focused on that. i'm just more widely, how do thing - focused on that. i'm just more widely, how do thing today's l focused on that. i'm just more - widely, how do thing today's affairs leave the conservative party? i imagine it will produce lots of heat and light over the next few hours i don't think it will change the party's dynamics much. raab was perhaps more of an influential figure behind—the—scenes in recent years. if borisjohnson hadn't stood up years. if borisjohnson hadn't stood up he will done better in that race but he has been an effective minister and perhaps too effective. and i think this is not going to change the way anybody votes in the

next general election size from perhaps a few traumatised civil servants. but i think this is not really much of a political affair. and i think the most important thing for rishi sunak is that with departure from government of salim nadeem zahawi, this is a clearing of the deck of these issues liz truss, premiership... and a few scandals that he encounters the more time is to focus on his own agenda and pull off a remarkable victory in october next year. itulle off a remarkable victory in october next ear. ~ . ., off a remarkable victory in october next ear. , ., , off a remarkable victory in october next ear. , . , . ., next year. we shall see. william atkinson from _ next year. we shall see. william atkinson from conservative - next year. we shall see. william i atkinson from conservative home, thank you for coming on the programme. we're going to chew over some of these new appointments that we have. ian watson is standing by. ian, what you make of them? some interesting appointments. alex chalk was very much one of the names in the frame to pick up is just a secretary from dominic raab. he is a very, very narrow parliamentary

majority in his seat in cheltenham, but he does a ministerial experience as defence minister but also crucially a senior lawyer and barrister so he should technically know his stuff. interesting that the job of deputy prime minister and secretary has been split so oliver dowden, the very close ally of rishi sunak, as close an ally of dominic mac raab was. he now becomes deputy prime minister is holding on to his position with the cabinet office or his very much at the heart of government but he will also be taking a strong campaigning role as well. clearly, numberten has decided to effectively make this announcement is at once because we know michelle donnellan, the science and technology secretary, will be going on maternity leave soon so they have announced an interim replacement was chloe smith. that's interesting because their husbands

talk of not enough women around the top table saw one reason or another and comes in. but chloe smith was much closer to liz truss. she was occupational secretary under the brief liz truss regime so to some extent, perhaps rishi sunak also not just rewarding allies but also trying to broaden his base of support and bring chloe smith into government as well. nothing to see her now and the key trying to say in the business of government goes on but there are so many questions about his ownjudgment in reappointing dominic raab to the justice secretary position last autumn and whether he should have allowed dominic raab to resign on his own terms and complaining about the whole process that looked into these allegations of bullying at the heart of government while in fact he should have sacked him given some of the findings... i should have sacked him given some of the findings- - -— the findings... i have to “ump in there because i the findings... i have to “ump in there because we h the findings... i have to “ump in there because we are _ the findings... i have to jump in there because we are out - the findings. .. i have to jump in there because we are out of- the findings... i have to jump in l there because we are out of time the findings... i have to jump in - there because we are out of time to thank you very much for putting that into context for us. this is bbc

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