good morning, welcome to breakfast with rachel burden and charlie stayt. our headlines today: the government takes legal action against the royal college of nursing, over its planned two—day strike in england at the end of this month. dominic raab has hit out at what he calls "activist civil servants", after resigning as deputy prime minister over bullying claims. the scammers preying on parents — more than 1,000 people were conned out of £1.3 million last year, a huge moment in the premier league title race, as arsenal stumble again. this time against bottom club southampton, who stunned the league leaders, before arsenal

salvaged an injury time draw. it's saturday april 22nd. our main story: the health secretary has said he is pursuing legal action over the lawfulness of the next strike by nhs nurses in england. steve barclay said he was responding to concerns from nhs employers, who believe the planned walkout at the end of the month would be unlawful. simonjones reports. the bitter dispute between nurses and the government is now heading to the courts. members of the royal couege the courts. members of the royal college of nurses in england have already booked out twice this year and a new strikers plan for the end of this month but there are questions now about whether it is legal. the 48 hour strike is due to begin at 8pm on the 30th of april on affected hospital and scheduled to

end at 8pm on the second of may. but nhs employers say it expires on midnight the first of may, as they believe the ballot close on the second of november. for the second time, the action is set to involve nursing staff from emergency departments, intensive care units and those working in cancer care. it is an escalation of the industrial action after members of the union voted last week to reject a 5% pay increase accompanied by a one—off payment. in a statement, the health and social care secretary steve barclay has said... he said it would seek to protect nurses who could otherwise be asked

to take part in unlawful activity which could put their professional registration at but the rtm has hit back saying it is confident of the lawfulness of the action. they said this is a political and that the government is now desperate to silence nurses rather than address this properly. junior doctors are also considering further action. they will doubtless make seeking a 35% pay increase. the government says that is unreasonable. it is clear the nhs and patients face a turbulent time ahead. simon jones, bbc news. dominic raab has accused "activist civil servants" of trying to block the work of government, following his resignation over bullying claims. the former deputy prime minister stood down yesterday after a report found he'd acted in an intimidating and aggressive manner towards some staff. 0ur political correspondent jonathan blake reports.

from deputy prime minister to backbench mp, dominic raab resigned from government yesterday, but defended his behaviour, and argued against the findings of an inquiry that upheld some of the bullying claims against him. is this a stitch—up? look, i wouldn't describe it that way. i resigned from cabinet today because i said i would if there was any adverse finding from this inquiry, and i'm true to my word — politicians should be. but i do think it sets a very dangerous precedent. if you look at the tolley report, it dismissed almost all of the claims against me. it found i'd never once, in 4.5 years, lost my temper, sworn, shouted, anything of that nature. but it also highlighted maybe two or three instances where i'd been what they described as "unintentionally abrasive". the report by the senior lawyer adam tolley kc found mr raab:

mr tolley also said mr raab was abrasive and described work done for him as: what you've got is the risk here of a very small minority of very activist civil servants with a passive—aggressive culture of the civil service who don't like some of the reforms, whether it's brexit, whether it's parole reform, whether it's human rights reform, effectively trying to block government. that's not on, that's not democratic. the prime minister said he accepted dominic raab�*s resignation with sadness, but there was no sign of rishi sunak in public yesterday as labour accused him of weakness.

the big question for the prime minister is why he was so weak to appoint him in the first place. the second question for the prime minister is why didn't he sack him? and now it's left to dominic raab to resign. replacing dominic raab as justice secretary is this man — alex chalk, and oliver dowden steps into the role of deputy prime minister, as his predecessor's departure sparks a debate about how things get done in government. dominic raab is the third cabinet minister under rishi sunak to resign over their contract. the prime minister who pledged integrity, professionalism and accountability in government won't want to lose any more. jonathan blake, bbc news. the cbi has suspended key activities untiljune, after allegations of rape and sexual assault saw several firms quit the business group. dozens of companies, including john lewis, bmw, and aviva, either left or paused their membership after two women came forward with allegations of rape. the cbi said it shares the shock and revulsion

at the alleged events. a text message scam targeting parents conned people out of more than £1 million last year. new figures from radio 4's moneybox programme reveal more than 1100 people fell for scammers pretending to be the victim's son or daughter in financial trouble, before asking for money. dan whitworth has more. it might seem like a legitimate plea for help but it is nothing of the sort. they are texts from scanners that start with �*hi mum, hi dad' before making a request for money for help. normally accompanied by distressing stories about by the cash is needed quickly. in the last year, more than 1100 people across england, wales and northern ireland reported being targeted by these scams. more than £1.1 million were lost in targeted mums and more than £170,000 to texts targeting dads. a

total of one .3 million. jan was one of the victims after receiving a message she thought was from her son. she said more than £3000 to the person who contacted her. by the time she realised it was not him, it was too late. i time she realised it was not him, it was too late-— was too late. i was 'ust so gutted, i was so, was too late. i was 'ust so gutted, i was so h was too late. i was 'ust so gutted, i was so, so upset _ was too late. i wasjust so gutted, i was so, so upset that _ was too late. i wasjust so gutted, i was so, so upset that someone l i was so, so upset that someone could do this to me because i save so hard, i tried so hard to save money and i watch my pennies that i just felt so gutted that someone could do this to me. i lief just felt so gutted that someone could do this to me.— could do this to me. i let texts re orted could do this to me. i let texts reported to — could do this to me. i let texts reported to action _ could do this to me. i let texts reported to action fraud - could do this to me. i let texts reported to action fraud have l could do this to me. i let texts - reported to action fraud have been counted in the latest figures meaning the number of people affected could be higher. a police officer who works on cases just like this is wanting people to be aware of the dangers. the this is wanting people to be aware of the dangers— this is wanting people to be aware of the dangers. the sorts of people that will be — of the dangers. the sorts of people that will be targeted _ of the dangers. the sorts of people that will be targeted will _ of the dangers. the sorts of people that will be targeted will be - that will be targeted will be parents, mums and dads with children so ultimately this is about loved

ones having their parents or neighbours informed of these sort of scams so more people know about it, the last chance to have become victims of it. the last chance to have become victims of it— the last chance to have become victims of it. the last chance to have become victimsofit. , . . , , victims of it. research suggests 19 eve ten victims of it. research suggests 19 every ten peeple _ victims of it. research suggests 19 every ten people have _ victims of it. research suggests 19 every ten people have received - victims of it. research suggests 19 . every ten people have received scams messages or calls similar to this. if you get one, the advice is to delete or reported straightaway and if you're tempted to give money to but after a text, make sure you speak to them first. dan whitworth, bbc news. have you been a victim of this scam? let us know your experience. you can send us a message on whatsapp — the number is on screen, orjust scan the qr code with your phone's camera and that will automatically start a chat with us. you can still get in touch with us by email, and on twitter as well. some mobile phone customers are facing shocking mid—contract price rises by some of the uk's biggest networks — that's according to research carried out by the consumer group which?

the �*big four�* network companies — 02, ee, vodafone and three — were outperformed in the annual survey of best and worst mobile phone providers. it says smaller phone companies could provide better value for money and customer service. the family of stephen lawrence will hold a memorial service in trafalgar square this morning to mark the 30th anniversary of his death. stephen was just 18 when he killed by a gang in a racist attack at a bus stop in eltham, in south—east london. the metropolitan police commissioner sir mark rowley admitted on friday that the force did not dig deep enough to root out racism since mr lawrence's murder in 1993. a picture of the queen surrounded by some of her grandchildren and great—grandchildren was released yesterday, on what would have been her 97th birthday. the princess of wales took the photograph during a family trip last summer.

it is lovely, actually. it shows young royals, including prince george, princess charlotte and prince louis, smiling with their great—grandmother in balmoral. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. stormy skies behind you, is that the big picture? it stormy skies behind you, is that the bi icture? , , , , big picture? it is. grey skies. there will — big picture? it is. grey skies. there will be _ big picture? it is. grey skies. there will be some _ big picture? it is. grey skies. j there will be some sunshine. big picture? it is. grey skies. l there will be some sunshine. i big picture? it is. grey skies. - there will be some sunshine. i think most areas withjust there will be some sunshine. i think most areas with just a few exceptions could expect a bit of rain at times and the overall story into next week is it isn't turning colder. you will feel that most of all in parts of western scotland and northern ireland. but tomorrow afternoon, temperatures struggling to get into double figures and in the scottish hills that could be a little bit of snow as well. one weather system approaching southern counties bringing some rain.

0utbreaks counties bringing some rain. outbreaks of rain in this area. retreating for much of northern england. most places will brighten up. some dense patches of fog this morning but brightening up. rate was at the south—west and south wales. mist and fog around north—eastern scotland. warmest to the west of scotland. warmest to the west of scotland. turning windier. gail is developing. a few showers pushing into the far north. rain at times towards southern parts of england and wales overnight. it does mean tonight will be not quite as chilly as recent night but tomorrow, get ready, the london marathon, of course. if you're off to spectate and lend your support take something with you a little bit warmer, you can expect rain at times. 0utbreaks spreading northwards and eastwards across much of southern and eastern

england as well as the midlands. some parts of northern england staying dry. running up in northern ireland in south—west scotland. strong two galeforce winds and showers will start to turn wintry on the higher ground. cooler air continues as we go into next week. in fact, monday and tuesday will be much, much colderfor many in fact, monday and tuesday will be much, much colder for many of you. we will see some showers around and again some wintry ones in the hills. in northern england and scotland. 0utbreaks in northern england and scotland. outbreaks of rainfall northern ireland, spreading towards wales and the south—west later on and temperatures will drop for all. more of us sitting in single figures through monday afternoon. a cool night following and then, for next week, quick outlook, it doesn't look like probably tuesday the brightest of the days. it will not be a complete washout of a week but there will be rain at time before things turn milder later on.

thousands of children with severe developmental disorders have finally been given a diagnosis thanks to a landmark study. researchers looked at the genetic code of 13,500 families in the uk and ireland with unexplained disorders, and were able to give a diagnosis to 5,500 of them, finding 60 new diseases in the process. having a diagnosis can lead to better care, but for many of the families involved it's provided some valuable answers, as kevin hay reports. when little mungo fisher was born, mum thought he was perfect but has he missed developmental milestones, she knew something was wrong but doctors could not tell her what. i did not know there were a lot of children without a diagnosis who were going around, known as swans, syndrome without a name. within

going up, it was quite a lonely experience. you do not want to meet other parents with normal children because you are reminded that your child is not meeting those milestones.— child is not meeting those milestones. , ., , ., ., ~' milestones. the fisher family took art in a milestones. the fisher family took part in a long-running _ milestones. the fisher family took part in a long-running genetic - milestones. the fisher family took. part in a long-running genetic study part in a long—running genetic study and mungo was diagnosed with a previously undiagnosed condition. soon jessica was previously undiagnosed condition. soonjessica was in touch with the mother of a little girl in australia with the same condition. when they exchange photographs, jessica new she was no longer alone. that exchange photographs, jessica new she was no longer alone.— exchange photographs, jessica new she was no longer alone. that was a moment, she was no longer alone. that was a moment. more _ she was no longer alone. that was a moment, more than _ she was no longer alone. that was a moment, more than the _ she was no longer alone. that was a moment, more than the diagnosis, l moment, more than the diagnosis, when i looked at a child that looked exactly like him so he does not look like us, his siblings... but alice could have been his sister. and it was wonderful and ruth, in australia, felt the same thing and we both immediately had the same feeling that we might have been on

the other side of the world but we won't no longer isolated. the study involvina won't no longer isolated. the study involving scientists _ won't no longer isolated. the study involving scientists at _ won't no longer isolated. the study involving scientists at exeter - involving scientists at exeter university has helped diagnosed over 5000 people with developmental disorders and discovered 60 entirely new conditions. the disorders and discovered 60 entirely new conditions.— new conditions. the first individual atient new conditions. the first individual patient may _ new conditions. the first individual patient may have _ new conditions. the first individual patient may have taken _ new conditions. the first individual patient may have taken decades i new conditions. the first individualj patient may have taken decades to get diagnosis, now they're getting a diagnosis within a few months it is rapidly accelerating the speed at which people can get some kind of answer. , , , which people can get some kind of answer, �* ,, .,, which people can get some kind of answer. , ,, .,, , which people can get some kind of answer. ,, , ,., answer. jessica has set up a facebook — answer. jessica has set up a facebook group _ answer. jessica has set up a facebook group and - answer. jessica has set up a facebook group and is - answer. jessica has set up a facebook group and is nowl answer. jessica has set up a. facebook group and is now in answer. jessica has set up a - facebook group and is now in touch with 30 families worldwide who have children with mungo's conditions. you always want your child to be unique, had not realised how unique it was the sound out not as unique as i thought. he is very special. we'll have more on this

and just after 8am with the charity genetic alliance uk. will be talking more about that later on. ,, ., will be talking more about that later on, ,, ., ., ., “ will be talking more about that later on. ,, ., ., later on. shall we look at the -a ers? later on. shall we look at the papers? lots— later on. shall we look at the papers? lots are _ later on. shall we look at the papers? lots are leading - later on. shall we look at the | papers? lots are leading with dominic raab's resignation after an investigation upheld some bullying allegation against him. the guardian says that mr raab was forced to quit after rishi sunak "begrudgingly accepted an official inquiry". "raab goes down swinging" is the headline in the times, which carries an interview with the outgoing deputy prime minister. mr raab told the paper that mr sunak�*s government risks being derailed by "a tyranny of subjective hurt feelings". the mail also leads with mr raab's resignation, but also features an iconic image of england football legend bobby moore, with the paper claiming his 1966 world cup winning shirt has gone missing. and one of the most read article on the bbc news website this morning. this features an interview with

wrexham fans. could they be promoted back to the football league? interested in that because of the whole hollywood connection thing. michael will be giving us more details on that in sport. you've probably heard of mountain bikes, bmxs and road bikes, but have you heard of gravel bikes? they're off—road bikes — kind of like a mountain bike — but designed for long journeys with plenty of dirt tracks. they are becoming more popular and one of the largest gravel bike challenges in europe takes place today in northumberland, as alison freeman reports. the wide open spaces of the northumberland landscape, where people get to enjoy all it has to offer in peaceful and often empty surroundings. but this weekend hundreds of cyclists will descend on kielder to participate in the dirty reiver gravel bike event. thea;r

kielder to participate in the dirty reiver gravel bike event. they have sinned u- reiver gravel bike event. they have signed up to — reiver gravel bike event. they have signed up to express _ reiver gravel bike event. they have signed up to express it _ reiver gravel bike event. they have signed up to express it 200 - signed up to express it 200 kilometre route and you can get into some unbelievable wilderness places that you can't do normally in other places in england.— places in england. organisers say all accommodation _ places in england. organisers say all accommodation within - places in england. organisers say all accommodation within a - places in england. organisers say all accommodation within a 40 i all accommodation within a 40 kilometre radius is sold out, showing the ever growing popularity of gravel bikes. it showing the ever growing popularity of gravel bikes.— of gravel bikes. it looks like a road bike. — of gravel bikes. it looks like a road bike, but— of gravel bikes. it looks like a road bike, but it _ of gravel bikes. it looks like a road bike, but it has - of gravel bikes. it looks like a| road bike, but it has elements of gravel bikes. it looks like a i road bike, but it has elements of of gravel bikes. it looks like a - road bike, but it has elements of a mountain bike in there. it appeals to everybody. we will have riders who have written at the highest level of the sport all the way down to people using adaptive cycles and i think that is why gravel bikes have grown. there are so versatile. it allows you to go on any trails, any adventures, just mix it up. they are fantastic bikes. you should get on one yourself. so are fantastic bikes. you should get on one yourself. 50 i are fantastic bikes. you should get on one yourself.— on one yourself. so i did. with chris boardman, _ on one yourself. so i did. with chris boardman, cycling - on one yourself. so i did. with l chris boardman, cycling legend, on one yourself. so i did. with - chris boardman, cycling legend, here to participate for leisure. he says gravel bikes could be the key to

getting people moving.- gravel bikes could be the key to getting people moving. people are worried about _ getting people moving. people are worried about traffic _ getting people moving. people are worried about traffic and _ getting people moving. people are worried about traffic and so - getting people moving. people are worried about traffic and so when i worried about traffic and so when they can get out on 1000 miles of roads like this, traffic free, with their kids, or to go out for a picnic, i think this will take off. what would be your advice to somebody who says they like the look of it, but i start? you somebody who says they like the look of it, but | start?— of it, but i start? you 'ust type it into a seach * of it, but i start? you 'ust type it into a search engine _ of it, but i start? youjust type it into a search engine and - of it, but i start? you just type it - into a search engine and information is available. you come to an organised event you get to trade when somebody else's put it on for you. when somebody else's put it on for ou. , ., . ., , ., when somebody else's put it on for ou. , ., . ., y ., ~ you. chris, how much do you think ou will you. chris, how much do you think you will enjoy _ you. chris, how much do you think you will enjoy the _ you. chris, how much do you think you will enjoy the event? - you will enjoy the event? unfortunately, this beautiful weather for filming, unfortunately, this beautiful weatherforfilming, typically, is going to change tonight. but billy connko going to change tonight. but billy connolly said there is no such thing as bad clothing, just inappropriate clothing. i have appropriate clothing. i have appropriate clothing so i think i'll be fine. the benefits to the area will be more far—reaching than the day. set, more far—reaching than the day. lot of people will spend a week in

northumberland on the back of coming to the dirty reiver. that must be good news for northumberland tourism. ~ , , , good news for northumberland tourism. ~ , , :: :: tourism. will everybody finish 200 kilometres? _ tourism. will everybody finish 200 kilometres? the _ tourism. will everybody finish 200 kilometres? the event _ tourism. will everybody finish 200 kilometres? the event is - tourism. will everybody finish 200 kilometres? the event is designed tourism. will everybody finish 200 i kilometres? the event is designed so there are obvious _ kilometres? the event is designed so there are obvious cut-offs _ kilometres? the event is designed so there are obvious cut-offs and - there are obvious cut—offs and people can ride it slightly different distances. from 65 to 130 to 200 kilometres, there is something for everybody. we are all sitting here thinking that looks beautiful. particularly in that location! _ that looks beautiful. particularly in that location! stunning. - that looks beautiful. particularly in that location! stunning. thatl that looks beautiful. particularly i in that location! stunning. that the forecast isn't _ in that location! stunning. that the forecast isn't so _ in that location! stunning. that the forecast isn't so good _ in that location! stunning. that the forecast isn't so good for _ in that location! stunning. that the forecast isn't so good for the - forecast isn't so good for the event? 200 kilometres is a long way. what is the longest you have written in one day? to what is the longest you have written in one da ? ., what is the longest you have written inoneda? ., , :::: in one day? to the shops, about 400 ards. to in one day? to the shops, about 400 yards- to the — in one day? to the shops, about 400 yards. to the coffee _ in one day? to the shops, about 400 yards. to the coffee place, _ in one day? to the shops, about 400 yards. to the coffee place, to - in one day? to the shops, about 400 yards. to the coffee place, to sit - yards. to the coffee place, to sit down... ., ., , ., yards. to the coffee place, to sit down... . . , ., yards. to the coffee place, to sit down... . . down... have a rest and come back. what ou down... have a rest and come back. what you have _ down... have a rest and come back. what you have for _ down... have a rest and come back. what you have for us? _ still recovering from last night, southampton scrapping for their lives, _ southampton scrapping for their lives, many giving up on their

chances — lives, many giving up on their chances for survival, arsenal desperately wanting to avoid another stumble _ desperately wanting to avoid another stumble as they try to pinch the premier— stumble as they try to pinch the premier league title, raced towards it, premier league title, raced towards it. but— premier league title, raced towards it, but arsenal stunned by southampton, and it would be a significant moment, if you look at the table — significant moment, if you look at the table. arsenal, five points clean — the table. arsenal, five points clean if— the table. arsenal, five points clear. if manchester city win the games _ clear. if manchester city win the games in— clear. if manchester city win the games in hand, they would be top and overtake _ games in hand, they would be top and overtake arsenal. but there is a caveat _ overtake arsenal. but there is a caveat - — overtake arsenal. but there is a caveat — they have to pager other next _ caveat — they have to pager other next week — caveat — they have to pager other next week. arsenal do still have a destiny— next week. arsenal do still have a destiny in — next week. arsenal do still have a destiny in their own hands as they chase _ destiny in their own hands as they chase the — destiny in their own hands as they chase the premier league title, but they will_ chase the premier league title, but they will need to win at second placed — they will need to win at second placed manchester city next wednesday. arsenal could only manage a 3—3 draw in an extarordinary match, against bottom side southampton, at the emirates. the gunners were actually 3—1 down with a couple of minutes of normal time left, before they salvaged a draw. here's our correspondent natalie pirks top versus bottom, with both sides feel the pressure under lights.

arsenal's chose the title has started late and then nerves warren show right from the off. carlos alcaraz couldn't believe his luck as the emirates were stunned into silence. southampton are fighting for their premier league lives, but if arsenal thought it couldn't get worse, the home fans were in disbelief. time for a good talking to. it works. arsenal's deficit was halved in the blink of an eye. but as they pressed hard for the equaliser, they switched off at a crucial moment. 0h, equaliser, they switched off at a crucial moment. oh, boy. exasperation versus elation. the gunners had to go for it, 0a frantic ending. mere seconds later, sacco made it 3—3. a thrilling draw, though, that helped either side, as arsenal's total dream is looking shaky with manchester city up next.

the reaction at the end, well, yes, on the _ the reaction at the end, well, yes, on the floor~ — the reaction at the end, well, yes, on the floor. desperation, but still to play— on the floor. desperation, but still to play on— on the floor. desperation, but still to play on wednesday. manchester city are in the fa cup semi—finals this weekend. later today, they face a sheffield united team who are second in the championship. the campaign to one side, seeking to pull off an almighty cup upset and become the first lower—division team to beat a top—flight club in the semi—finals since 1992. wrexham could be set to get the hollywood ending on saturday — or could a last—minute plot twist spoil the promotion party? they can seal the national league title with a victory over boreham wood at the racecourse ground on saturday evening. stars ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney have

pumped in millions of pounds to try and get the club back to the football league. so this will be followed all over the world by new fans as they try to -et the world by new fans as they try to get back— the world by new fans as they try to get back into the league. she was pivotal in helping england's women footballers win that euro 2022 final at wembley against germany last summer but now captain leah williamson is set to miss this summer's world cup and the rest of the current season with an anterior cruciate ligament injury. acl injuries typically see sports players sidelined for six to nine months. williamson went down injured in the first half of arsenal's i—nil women's super league loss to manchester united on wednesday. she becomes the latest injury setback for the lionesses who are already expecting to travel to the world cup in australia and new zealand without some key players. there had already been quite a bit of back and forth between ronnie 0'sullivan and hossein vafaie ahead of their match at the world snooker championship. then this happened. the qualifier, from iran, astonished the crucible audience when he smashed the pack of reds from the break in the second but the defending champion was far from intimidated and 0'sullivan leads the match by six frames to two. john virgo called what vafaei did "disrespectful".

now, a blow for british hopes at sunday's london marathon — aylish mccolgan is out of the race because of a knee problem. we we re we were speculating about that yesterday. but the knee problem has rolled _ yesterday. but the knee problem has rolled her_ yesterday. but the knee problem has rolled her out. —— ruled. she was one of the stars of the commonwealth games in birmingham last summer when she won the 10,000m. mccolgan is the british half—marathon record holder and she was due to be making her debut in the event that her mum won in 1996. lots of runners will be making their final preparations today ahead of tackling the 26.2 mile route across london — it's the marathon tomorrow and many people will be running to raise money for a cause close to their hearts, like sam wilson hartles, who decided to do it for great 0rmond street hospital, after his friend's two children spent time under their care. olympic gold medallist jessica—ennis hill has been to meet them.

can you tell me a little bit about huxley? can you tell me a little bit about huxle ? , ., , ., , can you tell me a little bit about huxle ? , .,, ., , huxley? huxley was our first born, born with undiagnosed _ huxley? huxley was our first born, born with undiagnosed down - huxley? huxley was our first born, - born with undiagnosed down syndrome, something which we were prepared to, you know, this is her ears, and he is a beautiful little boy, and we will bring up to be a little carried down and give him everything he needs. he down and give him everything he needs. ., , , x' , needs. he got poorly very quickly. and then he _ needs. he got poorly very quickly. and then he had _ needs. he got poorly very quickly. and then he had to _ needs. he got poorly very quickly. and then he had to be _ needs. he got poorly very quickly. and then he had to be rushed - needs. he got poorly very quickly. and then he had to be rushed to l needs. he got poorly very quickly. . and then he had to be rushed to greg norman— and then he had to be rushed to greg norman street for an operation, which _ norman street for an operation, which unfortunately he didn't make it through — which unfortunately he didn't make it through. —— great 0rmond. he was born, fantastic weight,

really thriving, then the nightmare started. he had this lump come up on the back of his head, and as the days went on it was getting bigger and then over the next few days i noticed he started coming up with these little marks on his body. his white blood count was quite high, indicating — white blood count was quite high, indicating some kind of infection. how did — indicating some kind of infection. how did it — indicating some kind of infection. how did it feel when you got the news? ., .., ., news? the doctor came in and said they would — news? the doctor came in and said they would have _ news? the doctor came in and said they would have to _ news? the doctor came in and said they would have to take _ news? the doctor came in and said they would have to take him - news? the doctor came in and said they would have to take him to - news? the doctor came in and said l they would have to take him to great 0rmond _ they would have to take him to great 0rmond street for further investigation. i had to sit on the floor_ investigation. i had to sit on the floor because if i didn't they would have fallen over. you floor because if i didn't they would have fallen over.— have fallen over. you would have -assed have fallen over. you would have passed out- _ have fallen over. you would have passed out- i _ have fallen over. you would have passed out. i couldn't _ have fallen over. you would have passed out. i couldn't be - have fallen over. you would have passed out. i couldn't be in - have fallen over. you would have | passed out. i couldn't be in there. how did you cope? it is horrendous, there is your — how did you cope? it is horrendous, there is your grandson _ how did you cope? it is horrendous, there is your grandson just - how did you cope? it is horrendous, there is your grandson just fighting l there is your grandson just fighting for his life and your children are in bits. and what you do? you just somehow have to find way of getting around it. i

somehow have to find way of getting around it. .., somehow have to find way of getting around it. .. ., , ., somehow have to find way of getting around it. .., ., , ., ., somehow have to find way of getting around it. .. ., , ., ., ., around it. i can imagine you are on around it. i can imagine you are on a massive — around it. i can imagine you are on a massive rollercoaster _ around it. i can imagine you are on a massive rollercoaster of - around it. i can imagine you are on | a massive rollercoaster of emotions in the hospital. how did you manage those hard moments? tote in the hospital. how did you manage those hard moments?— in the hospital. how did you manage those hard moments? we would always make sure the — those hard moments? we would always make sure the room _ those hard moments? we would always make sure the room was _ those hard moments? we would always make sure the room was a _ those hard moments? we would always make sure the room was a good - make sure the room was a good environment. like put the music on, let's, latecomers spend every little minute of the day with ralphie, play with him, and you just do that, and you are in this room, and you are just... you are in this room, and you are 'ust. .. ., , ., you are in this room, and you are 'ust... ., , ., ., ,, just... you try to make it a positive — just... you try to make it a positive environment, - just... you try to make it a - positive environment, won't we? so positive environment, won't we? mother's day positive environment, won't we? ’sr mother's day was positive environment, won't we? 5r mother's day was obviously a very special day for you because you got to ring the bells.— to ring the bells. yes, it was amazing- — to ring the bells. yes, it was amazing- it _ to ring the bells. yes, it was amazing. it was _ to ring the bells. yes, it was amazing. it was anything - to ring the bells. yes, it was amazing. it was anything i l to ring the bells. yes, it was - amazing. it was anything i could have wished for, to be honest. i have wished for, to be honest. i have been best friends with luke for five or— have been best friends with luke for five or six— have been best friends with luke for five or six years now, and it is testament _ five or six years now, and it is testament to them as a couple that

they were _ testament to them as a couple that they were so strong going for it. you chose — they were so strong going for it. you chose to run the london marathon for huxley and ralphie.— for huxley and ralphie. running it for huxley and ralphie. running it for great ormond _ for huxley and ralphie. running it for great ormond street _ for huxley and ralphie. running it for great ormond street hospital, j for huxley and ralphie. running it i for great ormond street hospital, as for great 0rmond street hospital, as in how— for great 0rmond street hospital, as in how incredible they have been for sophie _ in how incredible they have been for sophie and — in how incredible they have been for sophie and luke and i wanted to show my appreciation for great 0rmond street— my appreciation for great 0rmond street hospital and run the marathon violent _ street hospital and run the marathon violent. uncle sam is going through all this— violent. uncle sam is going through all this pain for you, mate. it all this pain for you, mate. means a lot allthis pain foryou, mate. it means a lot to us that he is doing it. to raise money for the cancer centre will be huge for the families who unfortunately will end up having to go there. i who unfortunately will end up having to no there. ., , , , ., to go there. i honestly believe that he is where — to go there. i honestly believe that he is where he _ to go there. i honestly believe that he is where he is _ to go there. i honestly believe that he is where he is today _ to go there. i honestly believe that he is where he is today because i to go there. i honestly believe that he is where he is today because of| he is where he is today because of where _ he is where he is today because of where he was. he is where he is today because of where he was-— he is where he is today because of where he was. seeing everything the great 0rmond _ where he was. seeing everything the great ormond street _ where he was. seeing everything the great ormond street hospital- where he was. seeing everything the great ormond street hospital have l great 0rmond street hospital have done for sophie, luke, and ralphie, is really giving me motivation to push on. fingers crossed they make it through in one piece. so many individual— through in one piece. so many individual stories, _ through in one piece. so many individual stories, and - through in one piece. so many individual stories, and that. through in one piece. so many individual stories, and that is l through in one piece. so many- individual stories, and that is what keeps you going, the causes close to your heart on those training runs, january nodes in the cold, the rain,

the sleet, the snow. you keep thinking of what you're doing, and all the way through those 26.2 miles. , . ., . all the way through those 26.2 miles. , _, . ., all the way through those 26.2 miles. , . ., miles. there is concern about some disru -tion miles. there is concern about some disruption due _ miles. there is concern about some disruption due to _ miles. there is concern about some disruption due to a _ miles. there is concern about some disruption due to a row _ miles. there is concern about some disruption due to a row that - miles. there is concern about some disruption due to a row that is - disruption due to a row that is taking place. we'll talk to her glazier about it and then pull ray delivered and you can watch live coverage of the london marathon tomorrow morning, from 8:30am, on bbc one. a change in the law will mean that children conceived as a result of rape will soon be legally recognised as victims in england and wales, giving them better access to information and support services. that's the pledge from the government. but what's it like to know that your child — or even your own existence — came from sexual violence? sammy woodhouse was a victim of the rotherham grooming scandal and fell pregnant to her abuser when she was just 15. and fell pregnant to her abuser when she wasjust 16. she's made a new bbc documentary in which she meets other mothers and children

born from abuse. you may find the following content upsetting. i was conceived by rape, there is no getting around it. she i was conceived by rape, there is no getting around it.— getting around it. she was raped. it was a crime- _ getting around it. she was raped. it was a crime. do _ getting around it. she was raped. it was a crime. do i _ getting around it. she was raped. it was a crime. do i look— getting around it. she was raped. it was a crime. do i look like - getting around it. she was raped. it was a crime. do i look like a - getting around it. she was raped. it was a crime. do i look like a band l was a crime. do i look like a band who rapes — was a crime. do i look like a band who rapes her _ was a crime. do i look like a band who rapes her birth _ was a crime. do i look like a band who rapes her birth mother? - was a crime. do i look like a band who rapes her birth mother? i - was a crime. do i look like a band i who rapes her birth mother? i asked m mother who rapes her birth mother? i asked my mother and _ who rapes her birth mother? i asked my mother and my _ who rapes her birth mother? i asked my mother and my rape _ who rapes her birth mother? i asked my mother and my rape baby? - who rapes her birth mother? i asked my mother and my rape baby? she i my mother and my rape baby? she said, no, you are my baby. no-one wants to talk _ said, no, you are my baby. no-one wants to talk about _ said, no, you are my baby. no-one wants to talk about what _ said, no, you are my baby. no-one wants to talk about what she - said, no, you are my baby. no-one wants to talk about what she is - wants to talk about what she is going through. we should not have to hide it any more. i we should not have to hide it any more. ., , ., ., more. i am putting one of the hardest stories _ more. i am putting one of the hardest stories about - more. i am putting one of the hardest stories about my -

more. i am putting one of the hardest stories about my life | more. i am putting one of the i hardest stories about my life out there and it is petra ffollowing. --it there and it is petra ffollowing. ——it is terrifying. there and it is petra ffollowing. --it is terrifying.— --it is terrifying. literally minutes _ --it is terrifying. literally minutes after _ --it is terrifying. literally minutes after giving - --it is terrifying. literally minutes after giving birth j --it is terrifying. literally i minutes after giving birth to --it is terrifying. literally - minutes after giving birth to him. i just looked so young. i minutes after giving birth to him. i just looked so young.— just looked so young. i was only 14 when i just looked so young. i was only 14 when i met — just looked so young. i was only 14 when i met a _ just looked so young. i was only 14 when i met a man _ just looked so young. i was only 14 when i met a man ten _ just looked so young. i was only 14 when i met a man ten years - just looked so young. i was only 14 when i met a man ten years older| when i met a man ten years older than me and from that moment he began grooming me. at that time, did not see it for what it was. i thought, is how love was supposed to be. i thought, is how love was supposed to be. ., , ' ., , ., be. i was 15 when i got pregnant. i

still remember _ be. i was 15 when i got pregnant. i still remember him _ be. i was 15 when i got pregnant. i still remember him being - be. i was 15 when i got pregnant. i still remember him being in - be. i was 15 when i got pregnant. i still remember him being in my i be. i was 15 when i got pregnant. i. still remember him being in my arms and ijust had that moment, that bond, how a motherfeels. and ijust had that moment, that bond, howa motherfeels. he and ijust had that moment, that bond, how a motherfeels. he is so gentle. i was so excited to be a mum but as i got older, i started to understand what had happened to me. it was deep—rooted don't the ringleader behind... it was deep-rooted don't the ringleader behind. . .- it was deep-rooted don't the ringleader behind... rape after ra ae, ringleader behind... rape after rape. assault — ringleader behind. .. rape after rape, assault after— ringleader behind... rape after rape, assault after assault. - ringleader behind... rape after - rape, assault after assault. sammy woodhouse — rape, assault after assault. sammy woodhouse gave _ rape, assault after assault. sammy woodhouse gave birth _ rape, assault after assault. sammy woodhouse gave birth to _ rape, assault after assault. sammy woodhouse gave birth to a - rape, assault after assault. sammy woodhouse gave birth to a son - rape, assault after assault. sammy| woodhouse gave birth to a son after she was raped. i woodhouse gave birth to a son after she was raped-— woodhouse gave birth to a son after she was raped. i remember when the thou . hts she was raped. i remember when the thoughts first — she was raped. i remember when the thoughts first started _ she was raped. i remember when the thoughts first started running - thoughts first started running through my head. i was panicking about my son, what am i going to tell my son. i could not see a light at the end of the tunnel. my son was only 12 when i had to tell him his

dad had raped and abused me. he did not want to be in his own skin. . i blamed myself and felt so stupid. my bruises healed, my mind did not. we both felt so alone and there was nowhere fast to turn. there must be others out there feeling the same way. i am related to a murderer and also a rapist. pond way. i am related to a murderer and also a rapist-— also a rapist. and i used to think horrible things _ also a rapist. and i used to think horrible things like, _ also a rapist. and i used to think horrible things like, what - also a rapist. and i used to think horrible things like, what if - also a rapist. and i used to think horrible things like, what if i - also a rapist. and i used to think. horrible things like, what if i grow up horrible things like, what if i grow up to be like him? you horrible things like, what if i grow up to be like him?— up to be like him? you feel grief, anaer, up to be like him? you feel grief, anger. shame- — up to be like him? you feel grief, anger, shame. i— up to be like him? you feel grief, anger, shame. i know— up to be like him? you feel grief, anger, shame. i know there - up to be like him? you feel grief, anger, shame. i know there is i anger, shame. i know there is nothin: anger, shame. i know there is nothing i _ anger, shame. i know there is nothing i could _ anger, shame. i know there is nothing i could have _ anger, shame. i know there is nothing i could have done - anger, shame. i know there is nothing i could have done but| anger, shame. i know there is. nothing i could have done but it feels _ nothing i could have done but it feels like — nothing i could have done but it feels like it— nothing i could have done but it

feels like it is— nothing i could have done but it feels like it is my— nothing i could have done but it feels like it is my fault - nothing i could have done but it feels like it is my fault that - nothing i could have done but it feels like it is my fault that i. nothing i could have done but it| feels like it is my fault that i am alive _ feels like it is my fault that i am alive. ., �* , , alive. you're putting yourself in our alive. you're putting yourself in your both _ alive. you're putting yourself in your both mother's _ alive. you're putting yourself in your both mother's shoes - alive. you're putting yourself in your both mother's shoes and l alive. you're putting yourself in i your both mother's shoes and you alive. you're putting yourself in - your both mother's shoes and you are also thinking, am i going to remind her of the person who did this to her? i her of the person who did this to her? ~ , . , ., her? i think it is incredible that she even decided _ her? i think it is incredible that she even decided to _ her? i think it is incredible that she even decided to keep - her? i think it is incredible that she even decided to keep me. | her? i think it is incredible that| she even decided to keep me. i her? i think it is incredible that. she even decided to keep me. i do not think— she even decided to keep me. i do not think i— she even decided to keep me. i do not think i could ever look at that child _ not think i could ever look at that child without thinking of the abuse. to know— child without thinking of the abuse. to know that i am normal, despite where _ to know that i am normal, despite where i_ to know that i am normal, despite where l have — to know that i am normal, despite where i have come _ to know that i am normal, despite where i have come from. - to know that i am normal, despite where i have come from. the - to know that i am normal, despite where i have come from. the worst feelin: is where i have come from. the worst feeling is feeling _ where i have come from. the worst feeling is feeling like _ where i have come from. the worst feeling is feeling like you _ where i have come from. the worst feeling is feeling like you are - feeling is feeling like you are alone. you are questioning everything about yourself. do i look like a rapist? looking in the mirror, i could almost see the man who raped my mother looking back at me. you grow up with all these ideas

about who you are, your kind, you are nice, you are loving, and then you find out you are conceived in a violent, almost hateful way. it pulls the heart out of your world. neil grew up adopted. he traced his birth mother when he was 27. it was then he discovered she was raped by a stranger in a park.— a stranger in a park. when you hear those words. _ a stranger in a park. when you hear those words, it _ a stranger in a park. when you hear those words, it is _ a stranger in a park. when you hear those words, it is almost _ a stranger in a park. when you hear those words, it is almost like - a stranger in a park. when you hear those words, it is almost like a - those words, it is almost like a videogame punched into your chest and it ripped your heart out. ijust broke down and completely and utterly lost it. one of the first things i said to her is if i look like the man who did this to you, walk away, i do not want to bring that back... walk away, i do not want to bring that back- - -_ walk away, i do not want to bring that back. . ._ whatj walk away, i do not want to bring - that back. . ._ what did that back... and upset her. what did she sa ? that back... and upset her. what did she say? she — that back... and upset her. what did she say? she said, _ that back... and upset her. what did she say? she said, it _ that back... and upset her. what did she say? she said, it is _ that back... and upset her. what did she say? she said, it is fine, - that back... and upset her. what did she say? she said, it is fine, you -

she say? she said, it is fine, you do not look like him. that change things for me, it really, really did. ., , ., ., ., things for me, it really, really did. ., i. ., ., ., did. had you ever wanted to confront him and say — did. had you ever wanted to confront him and say why _ did. had you ever wanted to confront him and say why did _ did. had you ever wanted to confront him and say why did you _ did. had you ever wanted to confront him and say why did you do - did. had you ever wanted to confront him and say why did you do this? - did. had you ever wanted to confront| him and say why did you do this? the man who him and say why did you do this? iie: man who did him and say why did you do this? tie: man who did this him and say why did you do this? ti2 man who did this to my birth mother, he'sjust nothing to man who did this to my birth mother, he's just nothing to me. man who did this to my birth mother, he'sjust nothing to me. i cannot be clear enough about this. about how angry i was at him. but, no, i would not want anything to do with him. do not want anything to do with him. do not think of myself as having a birth father. i have my birth mother and that's it and that is enough. for me is what is even hard to listen to is you have all this to deal with and it has affected you so much and you as an adult dealing with these, my son is 12 years old with these, my son is 12 years old with no—one to talk to so i am kind of sitting here thinking, i feel innovate like i failed him. i do not

think ou innovate like i failed him. i do not think you have — innovate like i failed him. i do not think you have at _ innovate like i failed him. i do not think you have at all. _ innovate like i failed him. i do not think you have at all. i _ innovate like i failed him. i do not think you have at all. i think- innovate like i failed him. i do not think you have at all. i think by i think you have at all. i think by being open and honest done the best ljy being open and honest done the best by him. so long as there is love there and you can show that love and explained that how he was conceived was the most unimportant thing in the world, it is you are my son, i love you beyond anything, you are part of me and that is the important thing and we might have to work at it more every day than most families because we are both hurting but we are together and that is the important thing and you are my son. i have tried so hard to be the best mum i could to my son. but no matter how much i love him, he still hasn't this shadow hanging over him and i know he has questions about his dad. ——he still has this shadow. but i do

not know whether the reality will help him. i not know whether the reality will hel- him. ., ~' not know whether the reality will hel- him. ., ~ ., ~ ., help him. i would like to know where help him. i would like to know where he was buried _ help him. i would like to know where he was buried so _ help him. i would like to know where he was buried so could _ help him. i would like to know where he was buried so could go _ help him. i would like to know where he was buried so could go and - help him. i would like to know where he was buried so could go and dance| he was buried so could go and dance on his grave. this monstrous bad that felt he could do that and that it was okayed to do that and it was ok to rape people. i think there 0k to rape people. i think there is a special place in hell for people like that. it a special place in hell for people like that. , ., ., , ., a special place in hell for people likethat. ., , ., ., like that. it is a reality that eva confronted. _ like that. it is a reality that eva confronted. she _ like that. it is a reality that eva confronted. she grew - like that. it is a reality that eva confronted. she grew up - like that. it is a reality that eva i confronted. she grew up adopted, imagining a perfect family she would one day find but when she met her birth mother, the truth was much darker. ,, ., , ., , , ., ., darker. she had been abused from a ounu darker. she had been abused from a mm: are darker. she had been abused from a young age by _ darker. she had been abused from a young age by her— darker. she had been abused from a young age by her father _ darker. she had been abused from a young age by her father and - darker. she had been abused from a young age by her father and she had young age by herfather and she had got pregnant at the age of 14. i was the result of that liaison. it made

me feel unwanted, a freak, but i still wanted to know more. so i rang him and i asked him if he had done the things that he had been accused of and he said, yes, the things that he had been accused ofand he said, yes, he had. and i said to him, do you feel remorse for what you did? and he said, no, i don't. and i said, would you do it again? and he said, yes, he would. i wanted him to pay for what he had done. and the only way that i could see for that to happen was to go to the police. they said they needed

evidence. and i said, well, you have the evidence standing right in front of you, i am living, breathing proof of you, i am living, breathing proof of the evidence that this man raped someone, but they did not seem to care, they did not seem interested. i am glad ifound out where i came from, i needed to know. iloathed i am glad i found out where i came from, i needed to know.— from, i needed to know. what was that driving _ from, i needed to know. what was that driving force _ from, i needed to know. what was that driving force to _ from, i needed to know. what was that driving force to find _ from, i needed to know. what was that driving force to find those - that driving force to find those missing pieces? i that driving force to find those missing pieces?— that driving force to find those missing pieces? i think it does not matter how _ missing pieces? i think it does not matter how horrible _ missing pieces? i think it does not matter how horrible the _ missing pieces? i think it does not matter how horrible the past - missing pieces? i think it does not matter how horrible the past is, i missing pieces? i think it does not matter how horrible the past is, it| matter how horrible the past is, it is like and each that you cannot scratch. —— itch and you just have to know, you have got to know. it helps knowing i did the right thing telling my son the truth but meeting

neal and ava has made me realise we are not the only ones going through this alone and i know i buried a lot of my own feelings because they are just too painful to deal with. there must be other mums out there, feeling the same way. it is must be other mums out there, feeling the same way.— must be other mums out there, feeling the same way. it is like, if ou feeling the same way. it is like, if you inject poison _ feeling the same way. it is like, if you inject poison into _ feeling the same way. it is like, if you inject poison into somebody, | feeling the same way. it is like, if. you inject poison into somebody, it is exactly what happened to me. my father injected our own genes into me. he said all dad did this to their little girls. it me. he said all dad did this to their little girls.— me. he said all dad did this to their little girls. it wasn't 'ust a ra -e and their little girls. it wasn't 'ust a rape and physical�* their little girls. it wasn't 'ust a rape and physical abuse, h their little girls. it wasn'tjust a rape and physical abuse, it - their little girls. it wasn'tjust a rape and physical abuse, it was their little girls. it wasn'tjust a - rape and physical abuse, it was the emotional— rape and physical abuse, it was the emotional abuse. rape and physical abuse, it was the emotionalabuse. | rape and physical abuse, it was the emotional abuse.— rape and physical abuse, it was the emotional abuse. i really wanted to tell what was _ emotional abuse. i really wanted to tell what was happening _ emotional abuse. i really wanted to tell what was happening and - emotional abuse. i really wanted to tell what was happening and i - tell what was happening and i couldn't tell a soul, could not tell anybody what had happened that day, what i went through. i did anybody what had happened that day, what i went through.— what i went through. i did not have any thoughts. _ what i went through. i did not have any thoughts. l _

what i went through. i did not have any thoughts, i was _ what i went through. i did not have any thoughts, i was going - what i went through. i did not have any thoughts, i was going to - what i went through. i did not have any thoughts, i was going to have l any thoughts, i was going to have this child and this troubles was gonna call him daddy as well. and i just felt sick, but what am i going to do? i just felt sick, but what am i going to do? ~ ., , , just felt sick, but what am i going to do? ~ , to do? i felt like i was 'ust so different to i to do? i felt like i was 'ust so different to everybody_ to do? i felt like i wasjust so different to everybody else i to do? i felt like i wasjust so i different to everybody else and i felt so _ different to everybody else and i felt so alone and i was embarrassed and ashamed of myself as a person. if and ashamed of myself as a person. if you _ and ashamed of myself as a person. if you made — and ashamed of myself as a person. if you made me have that baby, i don't think i would have survived, don't think i would have survived, do not think i would be here today. i had to survive, i had to survive to leave — i had to survive, i had to survive to leave i— i had to survive, i had to survive to leave. i packed up my things, for the child, _ to leave. i packed up my things, for the child, some baby milk, put him in the _ the child, some baby milk, put him in the bottom of the pram and walked out the _ in the bottom of the pram and walked out the door. 0n the train, and i

never— out the door. 0n the train, and i never went— out the door. 0n the train, and i never went back. mandy escapes the abuse, but she couldn't escape the consequences. her son was born with a genetic disability. neither of us have ever talked to another mum with a child born from abuse, so this is a first for both of us.— for both of us. good girl. good uirl. do for both of us. good girl. good girl- do you — for both of us. good girl. good girl. do you think— for both of us. good girl. good girl. do you think it _ for both of us. good girl. good girl. do you think it is - for both of us. good girl. goodj girl. do you think it is different for us as mums _ girl. do you think it is different for us as mums having - girl. do you think it is different for us as mums having a - girl. do you think it is different for us as mums having a child, j for us as mums having a child, having gone through abuse, to having children in a happy relationship? yes. ., ., ,, ~ children in a happy relationship? yes. ., ., ~ , yes. how do you think it is different? _ yes. how do you think it is different? when _ yes. how do you think it is different? when i- yes. how do you think it is different? when i had - yes. how do you think it is -

different? when i had children, i knew what _ different? when i had children, i knew what it _ different? when i had children, i knew what it were. _ different? when i had children, i knew what it were. he _ different? when i had children, i knew what it were. he wasn't i knew what it were. he wasn't conceived out of love. he was conceived out of love. he was conceived by a monster. but by god i love him. but yes, yes. i always say i am the survivor, my son is the victim, because he is. even though i carried around in my head, everything that is wrong with him is because of what happened to me. because the crime happened to me, it happened to him as well. find because the crime happened to me, it happened to him as well.— happened to him as well. and this will affect them _ happened to him as well. and this will affect them for _ happened to him as well. and this will affect them for the _ happened to him as well. and this will affect them for the rest - happened to him as well. and this will affect them for the rest of - happened to him as well. and this will affect them for the rest of his | will affect them for the rest of his life? , ., , ., , will affect them for the rest of his life? , ., , .,, , life? yes. i do his meals, his bathing. _ life? yes. i do his meals, his bathing. and _ life? yes. i do his meals, his bathing, and he _ life? yes. i do his meals, his bathing, and he will- life? yes. i do his meals, his bathing, and he will say - life? yes. i do his meals, hisj bathing, and he will say "she life? yes. i do his meals, his i bathing, and he will say "she is life? yes. i do his meals, his - bathing, and he will say "she is my mum, she is my carer". he is my son, always will be, but sometimes you go

there and sometimes no, don't go there. people don't, you know, when they find out, they say "you are discussing" they said is horrible to have an affair with your dad. i didn't. i was 11. have an affair with your dad. i didn't. iwas11. maybe have an affair with your dad. i didn't. i was 11. maybe younger. have an affair with your dad. i didn't. iwas11. maybe younger. the first recollection i have i was 11. was there ever anyone who said this is not your fault? was there ever anyone who said this is not yourfault? ida. was there ever anyone who said this is not your fault?— was there ever anyone who said this is not your fault?- does - is not your fault? no, no. does an bod is not your fault? no, no. does anybody even _ is not your fault? no, no. does anybody even now— is not your fault? no, no. does anybody even now after - is not your fault? no, no. does anybody even now after all - is not your fault? no, no. does i anybody even now after all these years, as an adult, even after him going to prison, as anybody ever said this is in yourfault? ila. going to prison, as anybody ever said this is in your fault? no. i'm auoin to said this is in your fault? no. i'm going to grow now. _ said this is in your fault? no. i'm going to grow now. i'm - said this is in your fault? no. i'm going to grow now. i'm going - said this is in your fault? no. i'm going to grow now. i'm going to | said this is in your fault? no. i'm l going to grow now. i'm going to be the first. going to grow now. i'm going to be the first- it — going to grow now. i'm going to be the first. it isn't _ going to grow now. i'm going to be the first. it isn't your— going to grow now. i'm going to be the first. it isn't your fault. - going to grow now. i'm going to be the first. it isn't your fault. how i the first. it isn't your fault. how

many women — the first. it isn't your fault. how many women sat _ the first. it isn't your fault. how many women sat at _ the first. it isn't your fault. how many women sat at home - the first. it isn't your fault. timon many women sat at home now in the position i was all those years ago thinking "i'm going to be stuck here forever". you need to open the door and get the hell out. i forever". you need to open the door and get the hell out.— and get the hell out. i feel a little bit lost — and get the hell out. i feel a little bit lost for _ and get the hell out. i feel a little bit lost for words. - and get the hell out. i feel a little bit lost for words. i - and get the hell out. i feel a i little bit lost for words. i mean, she has just been through so much, and ijust think she has just been through so much, and i just think she she has just been through so much, and ijust think she is by far one of the bravest if not the bravest people i have ever met in my life.

everyone i've met as felt so alone and there is nothing here to help people like us. i want to see how people like us. i want to see how people elsewhere in the world have changed that. rwanda is one of the only places in the world with specialist counselling for mothers and children born of rape stop amassing a saw a 10th of the population killed. the country suffered a genocide in 1994. women, children, underdone _ suffered a genocide in 1994. women, children, underdone and _ suffered a genocide in 1994. women, | children, underdone and slaughtered. 800,000 people were massacred in 100 days. the 800,000 people were massacred in 100 da s. ~ , 800,000 people were massacred in 100 da s. ~' , ., ., days. the killers were a mixture of reuular days. the killers were a mixture of regular forces _ days. the killers were a mixture of regular forces and _ days. the killers were a mixture of regular forces and hutu _ days. the killers were a mixture of regular forces and hutu militias i days. the killers were a mixture of. regular forces and hutu militias who took to the streets with guns and machetes. their victims were the

minority tenancies.— minority tenancies. rape also a wea aon minority tenancies. rape also a weapon of— minority tenancies. rape also a weapon of the _ minority tenancies. rape also a weapon of the genocide, - minority tenancies. rape also a weapon of the genocide, and i minority tenancies. rape also a - weapon of the genocide, and hundreds of thousands of mainly tootsie women were raped. claire was thrown into a mass grave, among the dead bodies. somehow she lived. but her ordeal wasn't over. she realised she was pregnant by one of her attackers. claire even

thought about killing her baby when it was born, but when she saw her daughter's face for the first time, she knew she couldn't. hi, you must be claire and elizabeth. how are you? and you must be elizabeth. can i give you a hug as well? how are you doing? so good to meet you, yes? lack of the truth hidden for years. it was only when she met other mothers like that she opened up and told her daughter how she was born.

and that is him when he was a little bit older.

as many as 20,000 children were born from rape during the genocide against the tootsie. here they come together to talk about how it has affected them. when i am sat there as a mother, you know... it is like i'm it from the moment, i know what my mum is feeling as well. —— what my son is feeling as well. —— what my son is

feeling as well. what happened here in 1994 is very very different to what happened to me. but we still have so much in common. it has been incredible to see how children and mothers here dealt with their struggles by coming together. ijust wish me and my son and it felt so alone. things between me and my son have always been difficult. and i don't know what the future holds. sit. poor, good. ijust wish me and

my son would have been here to process every thing better than we did. —— paw. buti process every thing better than we did. —— paw. but i am his mum and i love him and i always well and he knows that. since i have been back from rwanda i havejust been thinking about everything i learned there and the people that i met, and one thing that really stood out for me is everybody in rwanda came together through a charity, so taddeo i have invited some of the people from the documentary to come together in sheffield. and for some of us it is going to be the first time that they have ever met, you know, somebody who has been through their situation. know, somebody who has been through theirsituation. so know, somebody who has been through their situation. so today is a really big day for them. talking about this is always going to be painful, but it feels like this is a first step. mr;

painful, but it feels like this is a first ste-. g �*, painful, but it feels like this is a firstste-. g �*, ., , first step. my son's both father is my father- _ first step. my son's both father is my father- l _ first step. my son's both father is my father. i haven't _ first step. my son's both father is my father. i haven't told - first step. my son's both father is my father. i haven't told a - first step. my son's both father is my father. i haven't told a lot - first step. my son's both father is my father. i haven't told a lot of. my father. i haven't told a lot of people that. i think you are the second person. and people said "you will have to adopt them, you can't look after him, it will be a constant reminder all the time" and it isn't. he is my son. it matters to me to do this because abel has been silent and now i am a woman, a fully grown woman, who has a gob on her. and she is going to use it. my son looks like his dad, so... but that doesn't matter to me. ila. he is that doesn't matter to me. no. he is still my boy. that doesn't matter to me. no. he is still my boy- he _ that doesn't matter to me. no. he is still my boy. he is _ that doesn't matter to me. no. he is still my boy. he is your— that doesn't matter to me. no. he is still my boy. he is your boy. - that doesn't matter to me. no. he is still my boy. he is your boy. i - that doesn't matter to me. no. he is still my boy. he is your boy. i said i still my boy. he is your boy. i said that my birth _ still my boy. he is your boy. i said that my birth mother _ still my boy. he is your boy. i said that my birth mother when - still my boy. he is your boy. i said that my birth mother when we - still my boy. he is your boy. i said i that my birth mother when we met, still my boy. he is your boy. i said - that my birth mother when we met, if i that my birth mother when we met, if i remind _ that my birth mother when we met, if i remind her— that my birth mother when we met, if i remind her of him, walk away. we have _ i remind her of him, walk away. we have started — i remind her of him, walk away. we have started talking again. it is lovely —

have started talking again. it is lovel . ., , , , , ., lovely. honestly, every single one of ou, lovely. honestly, every single one of you. honestly. _ lovely. honestly, every single one of you, honestly, i— lovely. honestly, every single one of you, honestly, i think _ lovely. honestly, every single one of you, honestly, i think you - lovely. honestly, every single one of you, honestly, i think you are l of you, honestly, i think you are incredible, anyway. you of you, honestly, i think you are incredible, anyway.— of you, honestly, i think you are incredible, anyway. you don't have to feel alone. _ incredible, anyway. you don't have to feel alone. and _ incredible, anyway. you don't have to feel alone. and confused. - incredible, anyway. you don't have to feel alone. and confused. and i to feel alone. and confused. and scared. because that is how i felt. it isn't that bad. you can feel a lot happier about this subject, you don't always have to feel so sad. not to be ashamed of, nothing to be ashamed _ not to be ashamed of, nothing to be ashamed of— not to be ashamed of, nothing to be ashamed of it all. nobody can stop me.

if you have been affected by any of the issues raised, you can find information and support forwards— find information and support forwards action line. ——at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with rachel burden and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today: the government takes legal action against the royal college of nursing, over its planned two—day strike in england at the end of this month. dominic raab has hit out at what he calls "activist civil servants", after resigning as deputy prime minister over bullying claims. the scammers preying on parents — more than 1,000 people were conned out of £1.3million last year. a huge moment in the premier league title race, as arsenal stumble again. this time against bottom club southampton, who stunned the league leaders, before arsenal salvaged an injury time draw. iam in i am in wrexham, a city on tenterhooks because the local football team who was rescued by two

hollywood superstars. you could not make this stuff up. i will tell you all about it later.— all about it later. some rain at times and _ all about it later. some rain at times and it — all about it later. some rain at times and it will _ all about it later. some rain at times and it will feel- all about it later. some rain at times and it will feel colder. i all about it later. some rain at l times and it will feel colder. the details _ times and it will feel colder. the details right here on breakfast. it's saturday april 22nd. our main story: the health secretary has said he is pursuing legal action over the lawfulness of the next strike by nhs nurses in england. steve barclay said he was responding to concerns from nhs employers, who believe the planned walkout at the end of the month would be unlawful. simonjones reports. the bitter dispute between nurses and the government is now heading to the courts. members of the royal college of nursing in england have already walked out twice this year and a new strike is planned for the end of this month, but there are questions now about whether it is legal. chant: keep our nhs alive! the 48—hour strike is due to begin at 8pm on the 30th of april at affected hospitals.

it is scheduled to end at 8pm on the 2nd of may. but nhs employers claim the sick month mandate to strike actually expires at midnight the 1st of may, as they believe the strike ballot closed at midday on the 2nd of november. for the second time, the next strike action by the rcn is set to involve nursing staff from emergency departments, intensive care units and those working in cancer care. it is an escalation of the industrial action after members of the union voted last week to reject a 5% pay increase accompanied by a one—off payment. in a statement, the health and social care secretary steve barclay said... he said it would seek to protect

nurses who could otherwise be asked to take part in unlawful activity which could put their professional registration at risk but the rcm has hit back, it is confident its action is lawfulness based on case law. the rcn secretary pat cummins said... junior doctors too are considering further strike action. they walked out last week seeking a 35% pay increase. the government says that is unreasonable. it is clear the nhs and patients face a turbulent time ahead. simon jones, bbc news. the general secretary of the royal college of nursing, pat cullen, joins us now from belfast. have you made a mistake with the

date? ., ., ., ., ., , ., ,, date? no, we have not made a mistake and our action — date? no, we have not made a mistake and our action has _ date? no, we have not made a mistake and our action has been _ date? no, we have not made a mistake and our action has been legal. - and our action has been legal. everyone knows that. we have had six days of action with the notion of the period of this mandate. let the courts decide. what is happening here? what is happening really with this government? it is a highly unexpected move and i would ask them to put themselves in a position of the nurses who are calling for better pay, for a better day for themselves, better standard of living and to improve the nhs and what does the government do? it slaps them down with a court order. is that a way to treat nurses in england? is that a way to treat nurses in encland? ., , ., ., england? no, it is not. the legal challenges _ england? no, it is not. the legal challenges coming _ england? no, it is not. the legal challenges coming on _ england? no, it is not. the legal challenges coming on the - england? no, it is not. the legal. challenges coming on the initiation of nhs bosses and they are putting themselves in the shoes of the patients who they are definitely concerned about. they will be

withdrawing services from critical departments like intensive care. i led the nhs employees speak for themselves. this action was taken first and foremost by the nhs employers organisations, not the employers. my understanding is that the employers could not reach a position because those employers implied our nurses. and then added to the next point which was to ask steve barclay, the secretary of state, to issue the court order and thatis state, to issue the court order and that is where the position is now. but it doesn't matter who is doing, they are doing it against the nurses that stood up for absolutely everyone of us, every one of us during the pandemic and long before and a health service that has been subject to austerity by this government. the nurses have held it together and what is the answer? to slap them with a court order doctor strictly speaking...

slap them with a court order doctor strictly speaking. . ._ strictly speaking... strictly speaking _ strictly speaking... strictly speaking the _ strictly speaking... strictly speaking the period - strictly speaking... strictly speaking the period that i strictly speaking... strictly l speaking the period that you strictly speaking... strictly - speaking the period that you would be able to deploy strike action does and on midday on the second of may, not at midnight as you have strikes planned fog. could you not simply changes the date or and the strike earlier and eliminate this problem? first of all, it is not plan until midnight on the second of may and we can split hairs and the secretary of state can spend his time splitting hairs with a 300,000 nurses who have participated in this ballad and they can split has about what the six months means and the definition of the six months instead of getting into a negotiating room with ourselves and tried to work besides for the people of england who deserve better, our nurses. but what they are doing is dragging our nursing staff through a court room and ifind this notjust nursing staff through a court room and i find this notjust cruel but totally unacceptable. but and i find this notjust cruel but totally unacceptable.—

and i find this notjust cruel but totally unacceptable. but if the rcn not drivin: totally unacceptable. but if the rcn not driving a _ totally unacceptable. but if the rcn not driving a wedge _ totally unacceptable. but if the rcn not driving a wedge between - totally unacceptable. but if the rcn not driving a wedge between the i not driving a wedge between the nursing staff? you havejust not driving a wedge between the nursing staff? you have just over 50% of rcn members who rejected these latest pay offer. 0ver 50% of rcn members who rejected these latest pay offer. over 40% accepted the offer. an offer you recommended and there are non—union members who will not be struck i wonder if actually now the majority of nursing staff did not support this strike?— of nursing staff did not support this strike? �* . ., , ., this strike? actually, we have the hithest this strike? actually, we have the highest turnout _ this strike? actually, we have the highest turnout on _ this strike? actually, we have the highest turnout on this _ this strike? actually, we have the highest turnout on this ballad - this strike? actually, we have the | highest turnout on this ballad than any ballad conducted by the royal couege any ballad conducted by the royal college of nursing and the royal couege college of nursing and the royal college of nursing and the royal college of nursing and the royal college of nursing is its members. we are member lead and speak in behalf of the members and we are saying it is not good enough. what has this government done as a consequence of rejecting the deal? punishing them for not accepting the offer on the table. we can trade in cells we want from this government,

because there's many of them. on the day this government was all over the media, let's get around a table and not in a cot room at because we all want this to move on and not having another six months of further industrial action. another six months of further industrialaction. —— another six months of further industrial action. —— court room. we want to look after our patients, we do not want to be doing this but this government seems to be on the road to destruction. pat this government seems to be on the road to destruction.— road to destruction. pat cummins, thank ou road to destruction. pat cummins, thank you very _ road to destruction. pat cummins, thank you very much, _ road to destruction. pat cummins, thank you very much, from - road to destruction. pat cummins, thank you very much, from the - road to destruction. pat cummins, l thank you very much, from the rcn. we will also hearfrom labour and the lib dems about the issue. dominic raab has accused "activist civil servants" of trying to block the work of government,

following his resignation over bullying claims. the former deputy prime minister stood down yesterday after a report found he'd acted in an "intimidating and aggressive" manner towards some staff. let's get more on this with our political correspondent helen catt. it is the day after. we know to allegations were upheld, and we know also that dominic raab has lashed out afterwards, saying the british public will suffer because of what has happened from what he says is a flawed investigation. what happens now? ., , ., , flawed investigation. what happens now? ., , , now? certainly there has been quite a bit of reaction _ now? certainly there has been quite a bit of reaction already _ now? certainly there has been quite a bit of reaction already to - now? certainly there has been quite a bit of reaction already to some - now? certainly there has been quite a bit of reaction already to some of| a bit of reaction already to some of those comments, both to the report of what dominic raab said afterwards and that is because there are two major part on how government work. the elected politicians, ministers who set policies and political direction, the civil servants whose job it is to develop those policies and implement them and make them work and both sides need to be able to work together for government to really function. a key part of that is that civil servants, it is part

of their duty as civil servants, to serve the government whatever its political hue and that personal political hue and that personal political beliefs and it is written into the civil servant code which underpins their employment contract. when dominic raab makes the claim that he believes they are a minority of what he calls activist civil servant who believes are trying to obstruct government policies do not like, that is a really explosive claim and he will know that. the fda union which represents civil servants has described what he said as a damaging conspiracy theory and it is only likely to add to some of the ill feelings between ministers and civil servants over the last couple of years. this is only likely to feed further into that. for couple of years. this is only likely to feed further into that.- to feed further into that. for the moment, thank _ to feed further into that. for the moment, thank you _ to feed further into that. for the moment, thank you very - to feed further into that. for the moment, thank you very much. | the cbi has suspended key activities untiljune, after allegations of rape and sexual assault saw several firms quit

the business group. dozens of companies including john lewis, bmw, and aviva, either left or paused their membership after two women came forward with allegations of rape. the cbi said it "shares the shock and revulsion" at the alleged events. a text message scam targeting parents conned people out of more than a million pounds last year. new figures from radio 4's moneybox programme reveal more than 1100 people fell for scammers pretending to be the victim's son or daughter in financial trouble, before asking for money. dan whitworth has more. it might seem like a legitimate plea for help but it is nothing of the sort. they are texts from scanners that start with 'hi mum' or 'hi dad' before making a request for money or help. normally accompanied by a distressing story about why the cash is needed quickly. in the last year, more than 1100 people across england, wales and northern ireland reported being targeted by these scams. more than £1.1 million was lost to texts targeting mums, and more than £170,000 was lost to texts targeting dads.

a total of more than £1.3 million. jan was one of the victims, after receiving a message she thought was from her son, asking for her to transfer money, she sent more than £3000 to the person who contacted her. by the time she realised it was not him, it was too late. i was just so gutted, i was so, so upset that someone could do this to me because i saved so hard, i try so hard to save money and i watch my pennies, that ijust felt so gutted that someone could do this to me. 0nly texts reported to action fraud have been counted in the new figures, meaning the number of people affected could well be higher. a police officer who works on fraud cases just like these is wanting people to be aware of the dangers. the sorts of people who will be targeted will be parents,

mums and dads with children so ultimately this is about loved ones telling their parents or neighbours being informed about these sort of scams so that more people that know about it, the less chance they have to become victims of it. research suggests that 9 in every ten people have received scams messages or calls similar to this. the advice, if you do get one, is to delete or report it straight away and if you're tempted to transfer any money to a loved one after receiving a text, make sure you speak to them first. dan whitworth, bbc news. have you been a victim of this scam? let us know your experience. you can send us a message on whatsapp — the number is on screen, orjust scan the qr code with your phone's camera and that will automatically start a chat with us. you can still get in touch with us by email, and on twitter as well. some mobile phone customers are facing shocking mid—contract price rises by some of the uk's biggest networks,

that's according to research carried out by the consumer group which? it says say smaller providers could offer better value for money, as our business reporter ben king explains. smaller phone companies are outperforming the big fat networks by providing better value for money and good customer service, according to the annual survey of best and most mobile phone providers by consumer group which? tesco mobile was top of the ranking with a score of 80%. gift gaffin smarties beat 02 and ee on 69%. vodafone. fee said it was disappointed at the findings which is not reflect investment it has made improving its customer

service. , , ., ., ,, service. the best value it does seem to be from the _ service. the best value it does seem to be from the smaller— service. the best value it does seem to be from the smaller organisations and i would always recommend looking at some of those flexible rolling contracts. do not try to bake in the price of the handset because often you will be overpaying in the balance. equally, if you are in those flexible contracts, you will avoid those media contract price hikes. .,, avoid those media contract price hikes. . avoid those media contract price hikes. , ., , hikes. those cost providers recommended _ hikes. those cost providers recommended state - hikes. those cost providers recommended state for- hikes. those cost providers recommended state for the hikes. those cost providers - recommended state for the first time in years. 02 has recently increased them and some bills by more than 17%. these price hikes have been criticised, particularly when customers are feeling the cost of living squeeze. the message from which? is there are better deals to be found for those willing to shop around. ben king, bbc news. the family of stephen lawrence will hold a memorial service in trafalgar square this morning

to mark the 30th anniversary of his death. stephen was just eighteen when he killed by a gang in a racist attack at a bus stop in eltham, in south—east london. the metropolitan police commissioner sir mark rowley admitted on friday that the force "did not dig deep enough" to root out racism since mr lawrence's murder in 1993. it is 16 minutes past seven. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. this lovely weather won't continue into the weekend? abs, this lovely weather won't continue into the weekend?— into the weekend? a bit of a giveaway. — into the weekend? a bit of a giveaway. a _ into the weekend? a bit of a giveaway, a bit _ into the weekend? a bit of a giveaway, a bit of _ into the weekend? a bit of a giveaway, a bit of a - into the weekend? a bit of a giveaway, a bit of a murky i into the weekend? a bit of a i giveaway, a bit of a murky start into the weekend? a bit of a - giveaway, a bit of a murky start to the weekend for some this morning. good morning. visit parts of south maslins, southern england, lots of fog around. that will shift and we will see some sunshine. for some it will see some sunshine. for some it will stay grey all day long and there will be rain at times. most of us, not all, but most will see some rain this weekend before things turned colder later. this is the

view from space. pressure chart. there is guys go mist and fog in the south, and its owner ploughed through northern ireland, southern scotland, outbreaks of rain extensively here which will peter out a little into the afternoon. north of that, sunshine again, western scotland. in a fine of these, lots of cloud. rain setting into wales at the south—west later into wales at the south—west later in the day. away from that, many parts of the midlands, east anglia and come at the south of england staying dry. milder than yesterday, but turning cooler across the far north. windy tonight and into tomorrow. the strong winds, particularly across the north of scotland, rain where we have it fizzling out. showers arriving into the north of scotland and outbreaks of rain more extensively down towards the south—west and the channel islands. the rain will be working east tomorrow. if you are off to the london marathon, be prepared as it looks like it will be a soggy race. take some waterproof gear and may be a warm drink as

well. if you are waiting at home to start the race, it may stud road before the rain bushes and, moving across many parts of central, southern, and is in england through the day, every showers into wales as well. brighterforward northern well. brighter forward northern ireland well. brighterforward northern ireland and southern scotland tomorrow, but the showers are putting in into the north, and it is the temperatures, single figures, a big jump from the 18s and 19s the temperatures, single figures, a big jump from the 18s and 195 from earlier this week. colder air more widespread through sunday night and into monday and tuesday, even some winter arenas over the hills and some return of overnight frost. before i go, we had to somewhere warmer, florida, but look at this footage from yesterday. a big waterspout, effectively a tornado over the sea, pushing towards hollywood beach in miami, sending the holidaymakers scattering, but as it reached the shore, thankfully, it is abated, causing very little in the way of damage at all. a few

beach chairs and so on scattered. but this man took a tumble as well. that is how it is looking. back to you too. that is how it is looking. back to ou too. ., ., , ., you too. you would feel fresh after that, you too. you would feel fresh after that. wouldn't _ you too. you would feel fresh after that, wouldn't you? _ a quick way to dry out after a dip in the sea. a quick way to dry out after a dip in the sea-— a quick way to dry out after a dip in the sea. �* ., ., ., in the sea. amazing detail from the camera. in the sea. amazing detail from the camera- that _ in the sea. amazing detail from the camera. that is _ in the sea. amazing detail from the camera. that is extraordinary. - camera. that is extraordinary. brilliant, isn't it?— brilliant, isn't it? does airdrie and shotts. — brilliant, isn't it? does airdrie and shotts, surely, _ brilliant, isn't it? does airdrie and shotts, surely, of- brilliant, isn't it? does airdrie and shotts, surely, of some i brilliant, isn't it? does airdrie i and shotts, surely, of some sort. brilliant, isn't it? does airdrie - and shotts, surely, of some sort. it and shotts, surely, of some sort. [it is a and shotts, surely, of some sort. is a news and shotts, surely, of some sort. it is a news camera that was in the area at the time, from cvs, catching it in action packed glory. —— that is a drone shot, surely. see it in action packed glory. -- that is a drone shot, surely.- is a drone shot, surely. see you soon. it is a drone shot, surely. see you soon- it is _ is a drone shot, surely. see you soon. it is 7.19. _ dominic raab resigned as a minister yesterday after an inquiry found he was "intimidating" and "aggressive" — but he still remains a member of parliament. in an interview with chris mason following his resignation over bullying claims, he accused activist civil servants are trying to block

the work of government. isn't the blunt truth when you read all of this report that a fair—minded person reading it would conclude that, to be true, you are a nightmare to work for?— nightmare to work for? actually almost all _ nightmare to work for? actually almost all of _ nightmare to work for? actually almost all of the _ nightmare to work for? actually almost all of the complaints - nightmare to work for? actually - almost all of the complaints against me were dismissed. what this doesn't give you is a handful of senior —— senior officials, none of the junior complaints that were upheld, and i got on and dealt with hundreds of civil servants, thousands of other people in prison service and the court service, and you have the risk here of a very small minority of very activist civil servants with a passive—aggressive culture of the civil service you don't like some of the reforms, be it brexit or parole reform or human rights reform, effectively trying to block government. that isn't on and isn't democratic. government. that isn't on and isn't democratic-— democratic. lets speak to liberal democrat and — democratic. lets speak to liberal democrat and spokesperson - democratic. lets speak to liberal i democrat and spokesperson munira wilson. i wonder what your

reflections are the day after in connection with the upholding of those two allegations against dominic raab? i those two allegations against dominic raab?— those two allegations against dominic raab? ~ �* ., dominic raab? i think i'm reading the re-ort dominic raab? i think i'm reading the report yesterday _ dominic raab? i think i'm reading the report yesterday we have - dominic raab? i think i'm reading| the report yesterday we have seen that dominic raab is unfit to be a minister and frankly i think he is unfit to be a member of parliament and should be standing down and causing a by—election so that the people can have their say and put in place an mp with integrity and who treats people with respect and with regards to dominic raab's reaction, the lack of contrition, it is just staggering. the resignation letter has to be up there in terms of the history of graceless resignations. and i think his attack on the civil service is deeply concerning and frankly it is the side of a bully when they blame the victims and everybody else around them but themselves.— everybody else around them but themselves. ., ., ., themselves. you say you have read themselves. you say you have read the report- — themselves. you say you have read the report. when _ themselves. you say you have read the report. when you _ themselves. you say you have read the report. when you look- themselves. you say you have read the report. when you look at - themselves. you say you have read the report. when you look at some | themselves. you say you have read i the report. when you look at some of the report. when you look at some of the other things that were said, it

was said that dominic raab has strong principles, is guided by that in practice, his style is inquisitorial, direct, impatient, and fastidious. the presentation by dominic raab is that he was a body who wanted to get things done and there were people in his midst, civil servants, who were actively pausing things and getting in the way. he pausing things and getting in the wa . , . ., ., way. he is quite clear that legitimate _ way. he is quite clear that legitimate constructive i way. he is quite clear that - legitimate constructive criticism is not harassment or bullying so he has looked at the allegations in that light and therefore the fact that he is still with reason to find that dominic raab acted in an aggressive and intimidating and even threatening way on at least two occasions is pretty damning. adam tolley is an experienced barrister, an employment lawyer, kings council, who has vast experience in this area. i don't think you would have

found those findings if there were no grounds to do so. —— king's counsel. the case is clear against him. he has done the right thing by going as a minister. we need to do the right thing and stand down as an mp. . , ., ., the right thing and stand down as an mp. , ., ., , mp. just go through the second part ofthat mp. just go through the second part of that for me. _ mp. just go through the second part of that for me. he _ mp. just go through the second part of that for me. he was _ mp. just go through the second part of that for me. he was acting - mp. just go through the second part of that for me. he was acting in - mp. just go through the second part of that for me. he was acting in a i of that for me. he was acting in a government role in those meetings, working with simple servants. these complaints are specific to those environments. what does that have to do with him representing his constituents?— do with him representing his constituents? . , , ., , do with him representing his constituents? . , , , constituents? well because as i set out in the ministerial _ constituents? well because as i set out in the ministerial crowed --as i out in the ministerial crowed ——as he set out in the ministerial code around how one should behave as one would in any other workplace, where no bullying or harassment would be tolerated, that should also apply to members of parliament, including myself. that kind of behaviour in public office... myself. that kind of behaviour in public office. . ._ public office... that is the ministerial _ public office... that is the ministerial code. - public office... that is the ministerial code. i - public office... that is the | ministerial code. i realise, public office... that is the - ministerial code. i realise, but that is a basic _ ministerial code. i realise, but that is a basic standard - ministerial code. i realise, but that is a basic standard of - ministerial code. i realise, but that is a basic standard of any | that is a basic standard of any workplace. the ministerial codes as we would expect that in any other workplace and so i would therefore

also apply that to members of parliament. we are there as public servants to deal with very vulnerable constituents at times and deal with sensitive matters. so this kind of behaviour that he has been found to be engaged in, i think has no place, when you are serving as a member of parliament. i no place, when you are serving as a member of parliament.— member of parliament. i was 'ust auoin to member of parliament. i was 'ust going to ask. fl member of parliament. i was 'ust going to ask, munira i member of parliament. i was 'ust going to ask, munira wilson, i member of parliament. i wasjust going to ask, munira wilson, is i going to ask, munira wilson, is something positive were to come out of this, it would be that everyone would have a pause for thought and thinks hard. this may be in politics or in any workplace, people could think about their own behaviour and things they have witnessed are not called out. what are your reflections on that? absolutely. i have no problem _ reflections on that? absolutely. i have no problem with _ reflections on that? absolutely. i have no problem with having - reflections on that? absolutely. i have no problem with having a i reflections on that? absolutely. i - have no problem with having a debate about this issue, as you say, i think it is good to have employers and managers, make them think about their behaviours, and although the report talks about dominic raab's

fastidious nature as a manager, i have had many managers who are also fastidious and keen to get things done and driver performance culture. they can be done without being humiliating or degrading to members of staff. i humiliating or degrading to members of staff. , , ., humiliating or degrading to members ofstaff. , ., ~ ., of staff. i suppose in a way, munira wilson, of staff. i suppose in a way, munira wilson. my — of staff. i suppose in a way, munira wilson, my question, _ of staff. i suppose in a way, munira wilson, my question, slightly, - of staff. i suppose in a way, munira wilson, my question, slightly, is i wilson, my question, slightly, is that small blood, in that we can talk in general terms, but have you witnessed things yourself and not done anything? view is — and this is not an accusation, far from it, done anything? view is — and this is not an accusation, farfrom it, but a reality check. a lot of people are saying to themselves "i was in a place once and for this and didn't call this out, and didn't call it outlet is also instead, and seasoning of the time". i think a lot of people would be reflecting on that themselves. you have worked in politics, in harsh environments, with lots of stress. i wonder if you think to yourself now, too, whether times that you have seen things go

do you know people that have been held back from complaining? i’m do you know people that have been held back from complaining? i'm not sure i'm held back from complaining? i'm not sure im aware _ held back from complaining? i'm not sure i'm aware of _ held back from complaining? i'm not sure i'm aware of people _ held back from complaining? i'm not sure i'm aware of people have - held back from complaining? i'm not sure i'm aware of people have been i sure i'm aware of people have been held back from complaining but i can certainly think of a couple of occasions and it wouldn't be right to go into details, both when i worked in business and also when i have been in politics, where i've had a private word about behaviour that i thought was inappropriate. it is fine to drive a performance culture, it isn't fine to intimidate, bully, or harass stub actually, this leads into a wider question, actually, because it has been suggested the prime minister was aware and was made aware by others of this sort of behaviour by dominic raab, and, therefore, i think he has questions to answer in terms of why he appointed dominic raab as hisjustice terms of why he appointed dominic raab as his justice secretary and deputy pm. was it because he was his loyal lieutenant throughout the leadership campaign, even when it was clear that rishi sunak was going to lose to liz truss last summer? if

there were people who were a word with the prime minister about the behaviour, i think he has questions to answer. i know he hasn't been out to answer. i know he hasn't been out to speak to the media since the report was given to him on thursday morning. to answer any questions about what he knew and when. munira wilson, about what he knew and when. munira wilson. thank— about what he knew and when. munira wilson, thank you _ about what he knew and when. munira wilson, thank you for _ about what he knew and when. munira wilson, thank you for your _ about what he knew and when. munira wilson, thank you for your time - about what he knew and when. munira wilson, thank you for your time this i wilson, thank you for your time this morning. munira wilson is the lib dem education spokesperson speaking to us this morning. it isa it is a mystery that remains unsolved nearly 80 years later. who was the woman whose remains were found inside a tree in hagley, in worcestershire? a new bbc sounds podcast series called the body in the tree hopes to shed some light. presenter nicola goodwin tells us more. it was here 80 years ago this week for teenagers were looking for birds eggs but what they found with the skeletal remains of a woman. the

tree is long gone. it was cut down in the 1940s, but bob farmer told his story to the bbc 60 years later. there was a bone protruding from the earth and i think you could see a shoe or a pair earth and i think you could see a shoe ora pair of earth and i think you could see a shoe or a pair of shoes. the woman was thought — shoe or a pair of shoes. the woman was thought to _ shoe or a pair of shoes. the woman was thought to be _ shoe or a pair of shoes. the woman was thought to be aged _ shoe or a pair of shoes. the woman was thought to be aged between i shoe or a pair of shoes. the woman was thought to be aged between 25j was thought to be aged between 25 and 40 and was very short, less than five foot tall. the police investigations led nowhere, but local people believe that her death could be linked to witchcraft, or that she was a spy who landed in the midlands by parachute. graffiti first appeared in 1945, and has been appearing ever since. bob fuller spent 30 years as a police officer. he is determined to try to solve the mystery. it he is determined to try to solve the m ste . , ' . ., he is determined to try to solve the mste. , '. mystery. it is difficult to say exactly who _ mystery. it is difficult to say exactly who it _ mystery. it is difficult to say exactly who it was. -- - mystery. it is difficult to say exactly who it was. -- bob i mystery. it is difficult to say - exactly who it was. -- bob poole. my exactly who it was. —— bob poole. my own ideas is that it was possibly a spy own ideas is that it was possibly a spy who came in during the war and

she was found to be surplus to requirement and was murdered. dr john sandford is a forensic psychiatrist. in our new series, he uses modern science look at the original case files.— original case files. only a small u-rou original case files. only a small a-rou of original case files. only a small group of people _ original case files. only a small group of people can _ original case files. only a small group of people can be - original case files. only a small group of people can be cold - original case files. only a small| group of people can be cold and calculated enough to dispose of the body and it is hard to dispose of the body. what is fascinating in this case is the way the body has been concealed. dhb this case is the way the body has been concealed.— this case is the way the body has been concealed. dna testing could show us where _ been concealed. dna testing could show us where the _ been concealed. dna testing could show us where the woman - been concealed. dna testing could show us where the woman grew i been concealed. dna testing couldl show us where the woman grew up, been concealed. dna testing could - show us where the woman grew up, the country she was from, but her remains have disappeared. unfortunately the museum that they were in when i saw them has been moved to a different location, to two different locations, now. and there is no record of the skeleton at all. , ., , , at all. they were at the university of birmingham — at all. they were at the university of birmingham and _ at all. they were at the university of birmingham and then - at all. they were at the university of birmingham and then at - at all. they were at the university of birmingham and then at the i at all. they were at the university i of birmingham and then at the police training centre at tally—ho, but after the late 1960s, nobody knows where they went, but were determined to find them. can we finally solve the mystery of the body in the tree and give the victim a name, her

name? ., , , ., and give the victim a name, her name? ., , i. ., ., name? the only thing you can do now is rive the name? the only thing you can do now is give the lady _ name? the only thing you can do now is give the lady a _ name? the only thing you can do now is give the lady a decent _ name? the only thing you can do now is give the lady a decent and - name? the only thing you can do now is give the lady a decent and proper i is give the lady a decent and proper burial. you can listen to all eight episodes of the body in the tree on bbc sounds. it is available now. can ijust very quickly, because you will enjoy this, tell you about an updated version of that has been done for the king 's coronation, the etiquette guide? they have given guidance on phone etiquette, in particular, because it is something that they haven't fully embraced previously. that they haven't fully embraced areviousl . ~ ., , that they haven't fully embraced previously-— that they haven't fully embraced i previously._ mobile previously. mobile phones. mobile ahones. i previously. mobile phones. mobile phones- i can _ previously. mobile phones. mobile phones. i can show _ previously. mobile phones. mobile phones. i can show you _ previously. mobile phones. mobile phones. i can show you in - previously. mobile phones. mobile phones. i can show you in the - previously. mobile phones. mobile i phones. i can show you in the paper, but i can show you what they're talking about. do not take photographs in a public places. they are frowned upon at garden parties. which is an issue for you, garden parties. which is an issue foryou, charlie. garden parties. which is an issue for you, charlie. they also say they

should be switched off at funerals. as if you need guidance for that. but some people may. and have you entered the world of whatsapp, charlie? laughter. {elf entered the world of whatsapp, charlie? laughter.— entered the world of whatsapp, charlie? laughter. of course i have. at formal dinners, _ charlie? laughter. of course i have. at formal dinners, this _ charlie? laughter. of course i have. at formal dinners, this is _ charlie? laughter. of course i have. at formal dinners, this is not - charlie? laughter. of course i have. at formal dinners, this is not about i at formal dinners, this is not about mobile phones, adults should avoid novelty ties. take note, both of you. novelty ties. take note, both of ou. ~ ., , ., . you. when i have been at lunch with the eu have — you. when i have been at lunch with the eu have a _ you. when i have been at lunch with the eu have a novelty _ you. when i have been at lunch with the eu have a novelty ties. - you. when i have been at lunch with the eu have a novelty ties. the - you. when i have been at lunch with| the eu have a novelty ties. the ones that light _ the eu have a novelty ties. the ones that light up — the eu have a novelty ties. the ones that light up and flush. you the eu have a novelty ties. the ones that light up and flush.— that light up and flush. you know, when ou that light up and flush. you know, when you say _ that light up and flush. you know, when you say things _ that light up and flush. you know, when you say things like - that light up and flush. you know, when you say things like that, - when you say things like that, people believe you. is when you say things like that, people believe you.— when you say things like that, people believe you. is your phone off? i people believe you. is your phone off? i have _ people believe you. is your phone off? i have not _ people believe you. is your phone off? i have not even _ people believe you. is your phone off? i have not even got - people believe you. is your phone off? i have not even got it with i people believe you. is your phone i off? i have not even got it with me. he asked? — off? i have not even got it with me. he asked? i— off? i have not even got it with me. he asked? ~

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but martin 0degaard, and bukayo saka, both scored in the last 2 minutes to draw level, but they couldn't find a winner. arsenal are 5 points ahead of manchester city, who have two games in hand, with the two sides meeting, at the etihad next wednesday, in a game that will likely be pivotal, in the title race. manchester city are chasing the treble and are in the fa cup semi—finals this weekend. they will be massive favourites against sheffield united of the championship, but city have fallen at this stage, in the last 3 seasons, while tomorrow manchester united face brighton. patrick geary looks ahead to a great fa cup weekend. by by the time yourjourney reaches wembley, it becomes more real. your cup and is out one way or another, you have arrived at your destination. the original wembley was just two years old last time sheffield united lifted the cup. those who watched and won our faces

from another place but the reds up from another place but the reds up from the same one. it has helped give the blades and edge. it must be carried to wembley. the next up is the greatest of all, mighty manchester city.— the greatest of all, mighty manchester ci . ., ., ., manchester city. from our point of view, we manchester city. from our point of view. we are _ manchester city. from our point of view, we are writing _ manchester city. from our point of view, we are writing on _ manchester city. from our point of view, we are writing on the - manchester city. from our point of| view, we are writing on the crest of a wave. the position we have put ourselves in, we can enjoy it and look forward to it. there is nothing to fear or be scared. you might get one shot at it, you might not play a wembley ever again so we will give it everything we have got and take it everything we have got and take it all in. , ., .,. ., it all in. they are faced with a team now _ it all in. they are faced with a team now running _ it all in. they are faced with a team now running at - it all in. they are faced with a team now running at warp - it all in. they are faced with a - team now running at warp speed, 15 games unbeaten, manchester city art riding towards glory. they are looking for the travel. exhilarating but also exhausting. _ looking for the travel. exhilarating but also exhausting. we _

looking for the travel. exhilarating but also exhausting. we have - looking for the travel. exhilarating but also exhausting. we have to i looking for the travel. exhilarating | but also exhausting. we have to be sure that people are in the best condition. it is notjust about this game. we have come from many, many games, a lot of games, three days, four days, with a lot of games and knowing if we lose we are out and the mentalfatigue is big. for knowing if we lose we are out and the mental fatigue is big. for some brirht the mental fatigue is big. for some bright advance, _ the mental fatigue is big. for some bright advance, manchester - the mental fatigue is big. for some bright advance, manchester united | the mental fatigue is big. for some i bright advance, manchester united in the cup takes them back to one fateful moment. in 1983, they would have won their only major trophy instead united one of the replay. 14 years later and brighton's wave is rising again and manchester united is chasing european defeat. history could be repeated. brute is chasing european defeat. history could be repeated.— is chasing european defeat. history could be repeated. we have to love the pressure _ could be repeated. we have to love the pressure and _ could be repeated. we have to love the pressure and feel— could be repeated. we have to love the pressure and feel this - could be repeated. we have to love the pressure and feel this pressure | the pressure and feel this pressure because to play this type of game has to be an honour. this

because to play this type of game has to be an honour.— has to be an honour. this is a, where we _ has to be an honour. this is a, where we have _ has to be an honour. this is a, where we have had _ has to be an honour. this is a, where we have had defeats, i where we have had defeats, performances, we bounce back and i confess _ performances, we bounce back and i confess we _ performances, we bounce back and i confess we have to experience it. some _ confess we have to experience it. some mind — confess we have to experience it. some mind will but a stop further down the line. the prospect of an old manchester final. it's the london marathon tomorrow, and thousands of people will be taking part to raise money for charity. among them is emma bishop — she has a rare form of lung cancer, but the mum—of—two, has undergone treatment, that's delayed the spread of the condition. she's raised more than 65—thousand pounds, for the royal marsden cancer charity, and is taking us, on herjourney to the finish line. here's emma's story.

my my name is emma bishop, i am a 38 years old and a mother of two. my cancer is incurable. last year, in april, after a long period of feeling very unwell, i was finally diagnosed with a mutated form of lung cancer that is quite prevalent in non—smokers and particularly in women. there was a treatment that would work to reduce the cancer and stabilise it for now. we will get these little legs strong. having had cancer in both my lungs, in my spine, my ribs, pelvis and liver on scan currently, there is only a small site in my lungs but it is classed as low—grade active. my great silly idea was that i was keen to run the london marathon and i thought if my professor said i'm going to be well enough then i'm

going to be well enough then i'm going to be well enough then i'm going to do it, to say thank you to the royal marsden hospitalfor everything they do so have been trading since february but i got my final signoff in march to be able to do it because i am having regular scans to monitor the status of the cancer. ijust did not want scans to monitor the status of the cancer. i just did not want to fail, i really want to get that medal and make my family really proud of me. everybody knows that you can do it and we also know it is a hell of a challenge. you're pushing your body to the absolute extreme, as indeed an elite athlete is, you are doing the same. you ask somebody to do something that has never been done is still being quite ill, courage is the word. mr; is still being quite ill, courage is the word. y . is still being quite ill, courage is the word. g . , the word. my children were still suite the word. my children were still quite young _ the word. my children were still quite young so _ the word. my children were still quite young so it _ the word. my children were still quite young so it was _ the word. my children were still quite young so it was difficult i the word. my children were stillj quite young so it was difficult to explain to them. in the beginning i simply said i was resting my batteries. and that mummy needed to

rest. and my husband was absolutely wonderful at kind of stepping up and kind of doing more than he should have been and i was incredibly lucky that he was able to do that. at the moment, we have not had to say a lot more which is again why i am incredibly lucky i am so passionate about this because i've not had to have that conversation yet. i am sure i will one day but i asked my daughter the other day and said you remember when mummy was so ill last year? if she turned around and said, though, so that we go. and i try really hard to keep my energy of four when they are around and i need to go and be on form so i manage myself in and around that as much as possible. i probably shouldn't have always been doing that to be honest but never did so it is a real lesson. ih but never did so it is a real lesson. ., , ._ .,

lesson. in a funny way there are silver linings, _ lesson. in a funny way there are silver linings, some _ lesson. in a funny way there are silver linings, some positivity to come out of this. adjusted routines at home into a more productive, happy place. she has done some running in the past but nothing at all extensive and what i have seen is so many benefits that have come out of it, in terms of the relationships she has made, the support she has had from complete and utter strangers.— and utter strangers. whatever ha-aens and utter strangers. whatever happens after _ and utter strangers. whatever happens after this _ and utter strangers. whatever| happens after this experience, and utter strangers. whatever - happens after this experience, i'm going to hopefully have completed the london marathon and raise lots of money and helped people deal with their own diagnosis and that is something i would cherish forever so there are some silver linings i guess. you can follow her story and all the other runners. and you can watch live coverage of the london marathon tomorrow morning, from 8.30am, on bbc one.

i would not have finished by one o'clock but the better runners would have. you have done it before? a couple of times. a wonderful experience. there is another huge football story. this experience. there is another huge football story-— football story. this is the story that have _ football story. this is the story that have reached _ football story. this is the story that have reached on - football story. this is the story that have reached on beyond, | football story. this is the story - that have reached on beyond, people who have no football experience, what are we talking about? we're talkin: what are we talking about? we're talking about _ what are we talking about? we're talking about wrexham. - what are we talking about? we're talking about wrexham. should i what are we talking about? we're talking about wrexham. should we say to us. _ talking about wrexham. should we say to us. notts _ talking about wrexham. should we say to us, notts county. because they are second _ to us, notts county. because they are second at the moment in that particular— are second at the moment in that particular link so they still have a chance _ particular link so they still have a chance of— particular link so they still have a chance of being promoted ahead of wrexham — chance of being promoted ahead of wrexham. but it could be the fairy tale ending. still

wrexham. but it could be the fairy tale ending-— tale ending. still hours to go until kick-off but _ tale ending. still hours to go until kick-off but the _ tale ending. still hours to go until kick-off but the tension _ tale ending. still hours to go until kick-off but the tension is - tale ending. still hours to go until kick-off but the tension is rising i kick—off but the tension is rising in the fairfield tavern, in a sort of subdued way because at this time of subdued way because at this time of day it is only tea and coffee. but this city is in the mood for celebrating because there club which faced oblivion just a celebrating because there club which faced oblivionjust a couple celebrating because there club which faced oblivion just a couple of years ago was rescued by two hollywood stars, ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney, and now it is one game awake to been promoted. alice is a mad keen wrexham fans. what do you think these two guys are doing? i think it is surreal. it is a fairy tale. the start of a journey. tiara tale. the start of a 'ourney. two hollywood h tale. the start of a 'ourney. two hollywood stars, _ tale. the start of a journey. two hollywood stars, bikie club, what did you think? you hollywood stars, bikie club, what did you think?— did you think? you think it is surreal, and _

did you think? you think it is surreal, and april _ did you think? you think it is surreal, and april fools - did you think? you think it is| surreal, and april fools start. did you think? you think it is - surreal, and april fools start. --by the club. when _ surreal, and april fools start. --by the club. when americans - surreal, and april fools start. --by the club. when americans took - surreal, and april fools start. ——by the club. when americans took over another team with red shorts, the fans were not very keen but this has had the backing of all fans? filth. had the backing of all fans? oh, es, had the backing of all fans? oh, yes, definitely, _ had the backing of all fans? oi, yes, definitely, from the beginning. you can see the effect in the two years they've been here. we have been a close—knit town but it has brought everyone even more together, in the pub all morning having teas and coffees ready to watch the game tonight. we will still be here at 6:30pm. tonight. we will still be here at 6:30am. ., ~' ,, tonight. we will still be here at 6:30am. ., ,, i. , tonight. we will still be here at 6:30am. ., ~ , . 6:30pm. thank you very much indeed. when the news — 6:30pm. thank you very much indeed. when the news was _ 6:30pm. thank you very much indeed. when the news was first _ 6:30pm. thank you very much indeed. when the news was first around - 6:30pm. thank you very much indeed. when the news was first around that i when the news was first around that these two americans were going to buy the club it was a secret but one man here, mark, new before everybody else? i man here, mark, new before everybody else? ., , ., man here, mark, new before everybody else? , , man here, mark, new before everybody else? ., , , else? i was on the supporters board at the time — else? i was on the supporters board at the time and _ else? i was on the supporters board at the time and we _ else? i was on the supporters board at the time and we had _ else? i was on the supporters board at the time and we had to _ else? i was on the supporters board at the time and we had to do - else? i was on the supporters board at the time and we had to do a - else? i was on the supporters board| at the time and we had to do a zoom

meeting and i will be quite honest, when it was announced i did not know who ryan reynolds was. did when it was announced i did not know who ryan reynolds was.— who ryan reynolds was. did you tell him that? i have not _ who ryan reynolds was. did you tell him that? i have not actually - who ryan reynolds was. did you tell him that? i have not actually met i him that? i have not actually met them. i him that? i have not actually met them- i have _ him that? i have not actually met them. i have met— him that? i have not actually met them. i have met rob _ him that? i have not actually met them. i have met rob once. - him that? i have not actually met them. i have met rob once. i - him that? i have not actually met i them. i have met rob once. i think it is fantastic for the club, for the supporters and for the town in general. the supporters and for the town in oeneral. , ., ., , , , general. they have at this tv series aned general. they have at this tv series linked to it. — general. they have at this tv series linked to it, welcome _ general. they have at this tv series linked to it, welcome to _ general. they have at this tv series linked to it, welcome to wrexham. | general. they have at this tv series | linked to it, welcome to wrexham. i drink at another local pub and there are americans, canadians and australians that visit that place and it is just mental. australians that visit that place and it isjust mental. flan australians that visit that place and it isjust mental.— and it is 'ust mental. can local faint and it isjust mental. can local faint aet and it isjust mental. can local faint get in — and it isjust mental. can local faint get in and _ and it isjust mental. can local faint get in and see _ and it isjust mental. can local faint get in and see the - and it isjust mental. can local| faint get in and see the game? and it isjust mental. can locali faint get in and see the game? i think there are 5500 season ticket holders. the club is run on a membership scheme. it is mainly open to members and it is difficult for generalfans to get to members and it is difficult for general fans to get tickets at the moment but with the new stand being

built, it would make that a lot better but 10,000 every week is unheard of. better but 10,000 every week is unheard of-_ better but 10,000 every week is unheard of. :: :: :: , , ., , unheard of. 24,000 sheds sold last ear. this unheard of. 24,000 sheds sold last year- this is — unheard of. 24,000 sheds sold last year. this is that _ unheard of. 24,000 sheds sold last year. this is that you _ unheard of. 24,000 sheds sold last year. this is that you might - year. this is that you might consider a few more shirts. == consider a few more shirts. -- 24.000 _ consider a few more shirts. -- 24,000 sheds. _ consider a few more shirts. -- 24,000 sheds. it is a lot of shirts. you could get promoted, how are you feeling about that? it is you could get promoted, how are you feeling about that?— feeling about that? it is 'ust another game. i feeling about that? it is 'ust another game. yourfi feeling about that? it isjust another game. your home i feeling about that? it is just - another game. your home record is re another game. your home record is pretty good- _ another game. your home record is pretty good- one — another game. your home record is pretty good. one draw, _ another game. your home record is pretty good. one draw, a _ another game. your home record is pretty good. one draw, a late - pretty good. one draw, a late equaliser _ pretty good. one draw, a late equaliser to — pretty good. one draw, a late equaliser to make _ pretty good. one draw, a late equaliser to make it - pretty good. one draw, a late equaliser to make it 2-2 - - pretty good. one draw, a late equaliser to make it 2-2 - i i pretty good. one draw, a late - equaliser to make it 2-2 - i could equaliser to make it 2—2 — i could be wrong. are you confident? locate equaliser to make it 2-2 - i could be wrong. are you confident? we have to be confident. _ be wrong. are you confident? we have to be confident. are _ be wrong. are you confident? we have to be confident. are the _ be wrong. are you confident? we have to be confident. are the rest _ be wrong. are you confident? we have to be confident. are the rest of- be wrong. are you confident? we have to be confident. are the rest of you i to be confident. are the rest of you confident? of course, they. thank you very much indeed. this hat was repurposed in 1967, lived in the cupboard for a few

years, and is shown proudly now. and render these? we will say goodbye from wrexham, goodbye, and up the reds. , , ., reds. dave, next time we see you i want ou reds. dave, next time we see you i want you to — reds. dave, next time we see you i want you to be _ reds. dave, next time we see you i want you to be wearing _ reds. dave, next time we see you i want you to be wearing that - reds. dave, next time we see you i want you to be wearing that hat, i reds. dave, next time we see you i i want you to be wearing that hat, ok? we will look out for a little later on. thank you. i we will look out for a little later on. thank you.— we will look out for a little later on. thank you. we will look out for a little later on. thank ou. ~ , ., on. thank you. i think we should say that any of— on. thank you. i think we should say that any of the _ on. thank you. i think we should say that any of the bevy _ on. thank you. i think we should say that any of the bevy of _ on. thank you. i think we should say that any of the bevy of hollywood i that any of the bevy of hollywood stars that will be passing through the club at various stages, and watching the programme, hollywood stars that want to call into the programme, we would be happy to talk to them. we would do that, wouldn't we? big hollywood stars, they call in? ~ ., we? big hollywood stars, they call in? . ., ., ., yes we? big hollywood stars, they call in?_ yes is - we? big hollywood stars, they callj in?_ yes is the in? we are getting a no. yes is the answer. in? we are getting a no. yes is the answer- we _ in? we are getting a no. yes is the answer. we will— in? we are getting a no. yes is the answer. we will talk— in? we are getting a no. yes is the answer. we will talk to _ in? we are getting a no. yes is the answer. we will talk to matt - in? we are getting a no. yes is the answer. we will talk to matt as - answer. we will talk to matt as well. you can talk, matt, you are allowed. ., ~ well. you can talk, matt, you are allowed. ., ,, , ., , . well. you can talk, matt, you are allowed. ., ,, i. , . allowed. thank you very much. good mornin: allowed. thank you very much. good morning to — allowed. thank you very much. good morning to you- _ allowed. thank you very much. good morning to you. staying _ allowed. thank you very much. good morning to you. staying with - allowed. thank you very much. good morning to you. staying with sport, i morning to you. staying with sport, we know _ morning to you. staying with sport, we know what is happening tomorrow,

the london _ we know what is happening tomorrow, the london marathon, thousands of pairs of— the london marathon, thousands of pairs of feet heading over the bridge — pairs of feet heading over the bridge behind me. but the weather, the fee _ bridge behind me. but the weather, the fee could be soggy. let's go to the fee could be soggy. let's go to the forecast, because plenty of clouds — the forecast, because plenty of clouds outbreaks of rain around, especially— clouds outbreaks of rain around, especially from mid morning onwards. the odd _ especially from mid morning onwards. the odd glimpse of brightness in the afternoon. _ the odd glimpse of brightness in the afternoon, but be prepared, especially for spectators, to be soggy. — especially for spectators, to be soggy, and a little cool, with 11 or 12 at _ soggy, and a little cool, with 11 or 12 at the — soggy, and a little cool, with 11 or 12 at the highest. at least it shouldn't be too windy out there. that is _ shouldn't be too windy out there. that is what is happening in london. for the _ that is what is happening in london. for the rest— that is what is happening in london. for the rest of us, rain at times in most _ for the rest of us, rain at times in most parts — for the rest of us, rain at times in most parts of _ for the rest of us, rain at times in most parts of the uk, some dry weather. — most parts of the uk, some dry weather, some brightness, and one or two spots. _ weather, some brightness, and one or two spots, particularly in western scotland. — two spots, particularly in western scotland, that will be dry. but colder~ — scotland, that will be dry. but colder~ in _ scotland, that will be dry. but colder. in scotland and northern lreland. — colder. in scotland and northern ireland, will notice at most. by the end of— ireland, will notice at most. by the end of the — ireland, will notice at most. by the end of the weekend and into the start— end of the weekend and into the start of— end of the weekend and into the start of next, there could be some winter _ start of next, there could be some winter weather on the tops of the hill. winter weather on the tops of the hill~ the — winter weather on the tops of the hill. the pressure charge, warm weather— hill. the pressure charge, warm weather and clouds spreading to the

south _ weather and clouds spreading to the south. another band in northern lreland. — south. another band in northern ireland, northern england in southern _ ireland, northern england in southern scotland. the rain turning lighter _ southern scotland. the rain turning lighter and — southern scotland. the rain turning lighter and more patchy. it might not reach — lighter and more patchy. it might not reach the north coast and parts of the _ not reach the north coast and parts of the central belt of scotland. mist and — of the central belt of scotland. mist and fog brightening up then rain arriving into south—western wells _ rain arriving into south—western wells later _ rain arriving into south—western wells later on. northern england, away— wells later on. northern england, away from — wells later on. northern england, away from the finals, should brighten _ away from the finals, should brighten up and feel more mild than it does— brighten up and feel more mild than it does this — brighten up and feel more mild than it does this morning. much of scotland _ it does this morning. much of scotland away from the far south will stay — scotland away from the far south will stay dry and bright. luke cloud in the _ will stay dry and bright. luke cloud in the northeast, highs of 16 or 17 in the northeast, highs of 16 or 17 in the _ in the northeast, highs of 16 or 17 in the west— in the northeast, highs of 16 or 17 in the west highlands, where there is extreme — in the west highlands, where there is extreme fire danger this weekend. aided _ is extreme fire danger this weekend. aided and _ is extreme fire danger this weekend. aided and abetted by strong winds tonight— aided and abetted by strong winds tonight and into tomorrow. into tomorrow. _ tonight and into tomorrow. into tomorrow, it shouldn't be too chilly with a _ tomorrow, it shouldn't be too chilly with a touch — tomorrow, it shouldn't be too chilly with a touch of frost in one or two isolated _ with a touch of frost in one or two isolated spots, but most places frost _ isolated spots, but most places frost free. — isolated spots, but most places frost free. 0n isolated spots, but most places frost free. on sunday, there is the rain engine. — frost free. on sunday, there is the rain engine, which might hold off until the — rain engine, which might hold off until the race starts in london, but will spread — until the race starts in london, but will spread across southern england, the midlands, on and off, and into yorkshire — the midlands, on and off, and into yorkshire and lincolnshire by the afternoon. — yorkshire and lincolnshire by the afternoon, heavy showers to the west

of that. _ afternoon, heavy showers to the west of that. bright up north. northern scotland — of that. bright up north. northern scotland with some showers interpreters in the single figures. that is— interpreters in the single figures. that is where the cold there will be by the _ that is where the cold there will be by the finish of sunday. colder everywhere on monday, the wind making _ everywhere on monday, the wind making it — everywhere on monday, the wind making it feel chilly out of the sunshine. _ making it feel chilly out of the sunshine. showers could turn wintry times. _ sunshine. showers could turn wintry times. rain— sunshine. showers could turn wintry times. rain showers spreading from northern— times. rain showers spreading from northern ireland into parts of wales in the south—west first thing. some sunshine _ in the south—west first thing. some sunshine in — in the south—west first thing. some sunshine in between, claudia got some _ sunshine in between, claudia got some parts of england and wales and more widely around seven or 11 celsius— more widely around seven or 11 celsius by— more widely around seven or 11 celsius by and large. following that will be _ celsius by and large. following that will be a _ celsius by and large. following that will be a particularly chilly night. 0ne will be a particularly chilly night. one the — will be a particularly chilly night. one the gardeners don't want to see. a widespread frost is possible through— a widespread frost is possible through monday night and into tuesday— through monday night and into tuesday morning. that is how it is looking. _ tuesday morning. that is how it is looking. back to you. that tuesday morning. that is how it is looking. back to you.— looking. back to you. that is a chance. looking. back to you. that is a change- look _ looking. back to you. that is a change. look at _ looking. back to you. that is a change. look at that, -3, - looking. back to you. that is a i change. look at that, -3, ouch. looking. back to you. that is a - change. look at that, -3, ouch. just change. look at that, —3, ouch. just when you think you are plastered. thank you very much. bhd

when you think you are plastered. thank you very much.— thank you very much. and the bluebells _ thank you very much. and the bluebells are _ thank you very much. and the bluebells are just _ thank you very much. and the bluebells are just emerging i thank you very much. and the bluebells are just emerging as thank you very much. and the - bluebells are just emerging as well. it doesn't feel like the depth of spring, does it? it is 7.49. time now for a look at this week's newswatch. hello and welcome to newswatch. why is a radio 5 live phone in show appearing for two hours every morning on the bbc�*s news channel? and is the breadth of domestic news being sacrificed because of the need to appeal to international audiences, to? nicky campbell has been talking to callers on five live for a quarter of a century, so there is no doubting the success of his radio phone in show, but some viewers of bbc news and bbc two were surprised to see it appear on their screens as a television programme.

good morning. it is the national phonein good morning. it is the national phone in and we're talking about the grand national. there is the question for this morning. whether grand national protests 0k? for grand national protests ok? for televisin: grand national protests ok? for televising of _ grand national protests 0k? for televising of the nicky campbell show is one of many changes be made over the next few months to the bbc�*s news channel which is now a combined operation for both domestic and international audiences, with a dedicated stream for viewers in the during various times of the day and when there is a major breaking news services being introduced in the middle of the middle of a two—year freeze of the licence fee which means the corporation has to make annual savings of 250 —— £258 million by 27—28, which it acknowledges will mean a reduction in the audience offer. even in these straitened circumstances, lucy gough welcomed the channel.

but this view expressed by heather cotton was expressed by a number of viewers. simon groves member was disappointed by a shift that he has detected in the proportion of international as opposed to uk news. home the proportion of international as opposed to uk news.— the proportion of international as opposed to uk news. now when i switch on the _ opposed to uk news. now when i switch on the channel _ opposed to uk news. now when i switch on the channel there - opposed to uk news. now when i switch on the channel there is - opposed to uk news. now when i i switch on the channel there is very little domestic news. it is usually someone else, domestic news from another country, which might be a very worthy but is not of interest to me. ijust find the whole thing as being a bit of a mess. the presenters aren't as competent, the whole production is very clunky, we get snippets of film to plug the gap when adverts are being shown in other parts of the world. itjust isn't what it was. i just find it baffling that the bbc has decided to

downgrade its news presentations. it is really what makes the bbc unique. another issue that has been raised is the loss of the new sticker, the information bar at the bottom of the screen which up until three weeks ago featured the news headlines. now it simply shows bbc .co .uk ford sais news, regretted by a number of viewers, including zaria. i sais news, regretted by a number of viewers, including zaria.— viewers, including zaria. iwould like to ask _ viewers, including zaria. iwould like to ask the _ viewers, including zaria. iwould like to ask the channel - viewers, including zaria. iwould like to ask the channel why - viewers, including zaria. iwould like to ask the channel why they j like to ask the channel why they removes the tickertape running across the bottom of the screen. —— bbc.co.uk/news. it is was handy to have a quick catch up on the news. now i need to switch to sky news today the same thing. is the tickertape ever coming back or has it been permanently, and if so what is the reason why? just it been permanently, and if so what is the reason why?— is the reason why? just before the new stomach _ is the reason why? just before the new stomach new _ is the reason why? just before the new stomach new channel - is the reason why? just before the new stomach new channel launch, j is the reason why? just before the i new stomach new channel launch, we spoke to the man in charge, paul royal, and put to him the concern that uk viewers would get less of

the domestic news they wanted. the end result the domestic news they wanted. ti2 end result is more choice and more flexibility as opposed to a reduction. if we had a big uk story that really didn't feel relevant to the combined global feedback we can go our separate way with the uk feed. we are delivering value for licence fee payers. this is a value for all product, but underpinning it is world—class journalism and our commitment to delivering for all audiences world—class, impartial journalism, which we know that they value and one from the bbc. irate journalism, which we know that they value and one from the bbc. we asked for another chat _ value and one from the bbc. we asked for another chat from _ value and one from the bbc. we asked for another chat from somebody - value and one from the bbc. we asked for another chat from somebody from i for another chat from somebody from the bbc news this week with a response to the new channel but the request was declined. instead we got this statement.

we arejoined now we are joined now by one of the viewers who got in touch with this week, chris merryman. thank you for coming on newswatch. the bbc broadcast some audio on television, like newscast, what is your view of the nicky cambio radio phone in being broadcast on the news channel? —— nicky campbell. there is a dividend between a broadcaster and a

sustaining service by having nicky nodding along to phone callers. i don't feel it is news and especially at that time of day when so much news is potentially breaking, having an opinion showed there doesn't — it doesn't sit well with me, it doesn't feel what the bbc should be doing. nicky is a fine broadcaster and i have no problem with phone in shows, but not on a news channel, at a peak news time. but not on a news channel, at a peak news time-— news time. some viewers have said the liked news time. some viewers have said they liked having _ news time. some viewers have said they liked having more _ news time. some viewers have said | they liked having more international news now, which is part of the make—up of the new channel more broadly. what do you think of the balance between domestic and international coverage?- balance between domestic and international coverage? there is a lot to like about _ international coverage? there is a lot to like about it, _ international coverage? there is a lot to like about it, but _ international coverage? there is a lot to like about it, but equally i lot to like about it, but equally you need to look at the big picture. i feel is the national broadcaster bbc news had a bit of a responsibility, it is the last news channel in the uk that is owned by a

uk company or corporation in this case. and it feels like it should be the bbc should be the flag bearer for a uk focused, and broadcasting to the world from a uk perspective, rather than making allowances for the rest of the world because it has to make money and that is a huge issue, there is a funding gap to fill. but knowing the news channel makes so many allowances to the international audience the way that bbc news as it is now does, sky, they broadcast the uk service with they broadcast the uk service with the odd, you know, extra graphic to replace adverts. we have got the other direction and put welcomes first and before something coming from london, it doesn't feel right and doesn't feel and what the bbc should be doing. the and doesn't feel and what the bbc should be doing.— and doesn't feel and what the bbc should be doing. the bbc might say

the have should be doing. the bbc might say they have seven _ should be doing. the bbc might say they have seven 1/2-hour _ should be doing. the bbc might say they have seven 1/2-hour is - should be doing. the bbc might say they have seven 1/2-hour is a - they have seven 1/2—hour is a dedicated uk content per day. isn’t dedicated uk content per day. isn't that a lot? and — dedicated uk content per day. isn't that a lot? and i— dedicated uk content per day. isn�*t that a lot? and i would say yes, but that a lot? and i would say yes, but thatis that a lot? and i would say yes, but that is simulcast. and the opt outs where we are recording is on friday, the objects we had today have been very good, the odd technical glitch, but very good. but on a normal day, it is seven and a half hours that is available on other channels. it isn't — you have two hours of nicky campbell, three hours of breakfast, then the other bulletins, so most of what they are calling uk content is just simulcast from other channels and then you have these odd little break villas with reports with nobody introducing them, where there are only about three or four in circulation at a time, so if you are watching for a while, you ascend the same report over and over again with no context do it. it doesn't feel like it is serving uk audiences.

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the premier league title race, as the leaders slip up again, this time against bottom club southampton, who stunned arsenal, before arsenal salvaged a late late draw. and in whether, generally more cloud around this weekend, a little bit of rain at times too, and it's going to feel colder. i'll have all the details right here on breakfast. good morning. it's saturday april 22nd. our main story — the health secretary has said he is pursuing legal action over the lawfulness of the next strike by nhs nurses in england. steve barclay said he was responding to concerns from nhs employers, who believe the planned walkout at the end of the month would be unlawful. simonjones reports. the bitter dispute between nurses and the government is now heading to the courts. members of the royal college of nursing in england have already walked out twice this year, and a new strike is planned for the end of this month. but there are questions now

about whether its legal. the 48—hour strike is due to begin at 8pm on 30th april at affected hospitals. it's scheduled to end at 8pm on 2nd may, but nhs employers claim the six—month mandate to strike actually expires at midnight on 1st may as they believe the strike ballot closed at midday on 2nd november. for the first time, the next strike action by the rcn is set to involve nursing staff from emergency departments, intensive care units and those working in cancer care. it's an escalation of the industrial action after members of the union voted last week to reject a 5% pay increase accompanied by a one—off payment. in a statement, the health and social care secretary steve barclay said i have regretfully provided notice of my intent to pursue legal action, to ask the courts to declare the royal college of nursing's upcoming strike action to be unlawful. the government firmly believes in the right to strike, but it is vital that any industrial action is lawful and i have no

choice but to take action. he said it would seek to protect nurses who could otherwise be asked to take part in unlawful activity, which could put their professional registration at risk. but the rcn has hit back. it's confident its action is lawful based on case law. let the courts decide what is happening here. what is really happening with this government? this is a highly unexpected and desperate move by this government. and i would ask them to put themselves in the position of the nurses who are calling for better pay, for a better deal for themselves, better standard of living, and to help improve the nhs. and what does the government do? it slaps them down with a court order. junior doctors, too, are considering further strike action. they walked out last week seeking a 35% pay increase. the government says that's unreasonable. it's clear the nhs and patients face a turbulent time ahead. simon jones, bbc news.

dominic raab has accused "activist civil servants" of trying to block the work of government, following his resignation over bullying claims. the former deputy prime minister stood down yesterday after a report found he'd acted in an "intimidating and aggressive" manner towards some staff. 0ur political correspondent jonathan blake reports. from deputy prime minister to backbench mp, dominic raab resigned from government yesterday, but defended his behaviour and argued against the findings of an inquiry that upheld some of the bullying claims against him. is this a stitch up? look, i wouldn't describe it that way. i resigned from cabinet today because i said i would if there was any adverse finding from this inquiry. and i'm true to my word, politicians should be. but i do think it sets a very dangerous precedent. if you look at the tolley report, it dismissed almost all of the claims against me. it found i'd never once in four

and a half years lost my temper, sworn, shouted, anything of that nature. but it also highlighted maybe two or three instances where i'd been, what they described as unintentionally abrasive. the report by the senior lawyer adam tolley kc found mr raab acted in a way which was intimidating in the sense of unreasonably and persistently aggressive conduct. it also involved an abuse or misuse of power in a way that undermines or humiliates, adding that he went further than was necessary or appropriate in delivering critical feedback and was insulting. mr tolley also said mr raab was abrasive and described work done for him as utterly useless and woeful, a description reasonably understood as insulting personal criticism. what you've got is the risk here of a very small minority of very activist civil servants with the passive aggressive culture

of the civil service who don't like some of the reforms, whether it's brexit, whether it's parole reform, whether its human rights reform, effectively trying to block government. that's not on. that's not democratic. the prime minister said he accepted dominic raab's resignation with sadness, but there was no sign of rishi sunak in public yesterday as labour accused him of weakness. well, the big question for the prime minister is why he was so weak to appoint him in the first place. the second question for the prime minister is why he didn't sack him. and now it's left to dominic raab to resign. replacing dominic raab asjustice secretary is this man, alex chalk and oliver dowden steps into the role of deputy prime minister as his predecessor's departure sparks a debate about how things get done in government. dominic raab is the third cabinet minister under rishi sunak to resign over their conduct. the prime minister, who pledged integrity, professionalism and accountability in government, won't want to lose any more. jonathan blake, bbc news.

let's speak now with our political correspondent helen catt. you are outside downing street, of course. there are questions about rishi sunak in terms of what he knew and when. we know that two claims were upheld and we also know there are questions between the relationship between ministers and civil servants. yes, there are and we have seen in recent years public tensions between some ministers and senior civil servants represented by some of their unions. and this latest episode is unlikely to help that. the way that government works is that you have ministers who set the policies, they set the political direction, and civil servants whose job it is to develop those policies to make them work, to implement

them. and so both of those things need to be working together effectively really for government to work well. so a key part of that is that civil servants sign up to be impartial. it is such an important idea it is actually written into the civil service code that they will impartially serve the government of the day, whatever political persuasion that is at whatever their own beliefs are. dominic raab's accusation that he believes there are what he calls a minority of activist civil servants who are trying to obstruct government policies that they don't like is going to be explosive because it really goes to the very heart of what being a civil servant is. already we have seen a reaction from the union the fda, saying there is a conspiracy theory that will be damaging. it is not going to do anything more to help repair those relations which we have already seen being strained over recent years. helen, thank you. the cbi has suspended key activities untiljune, after allegations of rape and sexual assault saw several firms quit the business group. dozens of companies including john lewis, bmw, and aviva, either left or paused their membership after two women came forward with allegations of rape. the cbi said it "shares the shock and revulsion"

at the alleged events. a text message scam targeting parents conned people out of more than £1 million last year. new figures from radio 4's moneybox programme reveal more than 1,100 people fell for scammers pretending to be the victim's son or daughter in financial trouble, before asking for money. dan whitworth has more. it might seem like a legitimate plea for help, but it's nothing of the sort. they're texts from scammers that start with, "hi, mum" or "hi, dad" before making a request for money or help, normally accompanied by a distressing story about why the cash is needed quickly. in the last year, more than 1,100 people across england, wales, and northern ireland reported being targeted by these scams. more than £1.1 million was lost to text targeting mums to texts targeting mums and more than £170,000 was lost to texts targeting dads —

a total of more than 1.3 million. jan was one of the victims. after receiving a message she thought was from her son, asking for her to transfer money, she sent more than £3,000 to the person who contacted her. by the time she realised it wasn't him, it was too late. i was just so gutted. i was so, so, so upset that someone could do this to me because i save... i save so hard. i try so hard to save money and i watch my pennies but ijust felt so gutted that someone could do this to me. 0nly texts reported to action fraud have been counted in the new figures, meaning the number of people affected could well be higher. a police officer who works on fraud cases just like these is warning people to be aware of the dangers. the sorts of people that will be targeted will be parents, mums and dads with children. so, ultimately, this is about loved ones telling their parents

or neighbours being informed about this sort of scam so the more people that know about it, the less chance they are likely to become victim of it. research suggests that nine in every ten people have received scam messages or calls similar to this. the advice, if you do get one, is to delete or report it straight away. and if you're tempted to transfer any money to a loved one after receiving a text, make sure you speak to them first. dan whitworth, bbc news. some mobile phone customers are facing "shocking" mid—contract price rises by some of the uk's biggest networks — that's according to research carried out by the consumer group which? the big four network companies — 02, ee, vodafone and 3 — were outperformed in the annual survey of mobile phone providers. it says smaller companies could provide better value for money and customer service. the family of stephen lawrence will hold a memorial service in trafalgar square this morning to mark the 30th

anniversary of his death. stephen was just 18 when he was killed by a gang in a racist attack at a bus stop in eltham, in south—east london. the metropolitan police commissioner sir mark rowley admitted on friday that the force "did not dig deep enough" to root out racism since mr lawrence's murder in 1993. a lovely new picture of the queen surrounded by some of her grandchildren and great—grandchildren was released yesterday, on what would have been her 97th birthday. the princess of wales took the photograph during a family trip last summer. it shows the queen surrounded by all of her grandchildren, and the picture was taken in balmoral. name those children. that's a big crowd. how many of those children could you name? you go first.

there is the three key ones, louis, charlotte and george, and across the middle there is the gentles to the left, the two girls with the long blonde hair are the phillips children and the two at the back are sophie and edwards children. is that enough detailfor sophie and edwards children. is that enough detail for you? i'm sophie and edwards children. is that enough detailfor you? i'm not sure i got their titles entirely accurate. very impressive at 8:15am in the morning. i was expecting names, though! i think this is why they haven't chosen before coverage of the coronation! i am rubbish with names and it is —— as it is. however, i am good with weather. sunshine in western scotland, the last of the sunny days for some here. things will change tomorrow. elsewhere there is some fog around, especially in east wales, that will take awhile to clear, then there

will be sunny spells. be prepared for some of you as it will be quite a wet day. on the rain chance there is rain in from the south further east it is fizzling out but in the south—west we will see the wettest conditions and this area in the far north of england and southern scotland and northern ireland will be hanging around these areas all day long. edging a little further northwards, northern ireland, glasgow, in towards the stirling area could just about stay dry. brightening up across the rest of north and england away from cumbria and northumberland later so it will feel warmer here and in the south and east a dry day than yesterday. almost in western scotland, could hit 16 or 17 celsius, down a bit on yesterday because it is more breezy and the breeze will strengthen tonight becoming gale force to take us into tomorrow. elsewhere tonight, varying amounts of cloud, there will be outbreaks of rain here and there, the have your slightly towards the far south—west. any lengthy clear skies, there could be a bit of mist and fog, and the outside chance of frost but nowhere near as much as we have seen in recent nights. into

then sunday, it should be sunday, but saturday, sunday the should be rain spreading across the south of the country, spreading northwards and eastwards, going to affect the marathon. elsewhere we will see showers across scotland which will turn winter relate to and it will feel colder here as we go through the day. they will be a bit of brightness at times, southern scotland, northern ireland and the far north of england where you have the wetter weather today. i will have a full forecast with the right graphics and around half an hour. thanks, matt. thousands of children with severe developmental disorders have finally been given a diagnosis thanks to a landmark study. researchers looked at the genetic code of 13,500 families in the uk and ireland with unexplained disorders, and were able to give a diagnosis to 5,500 of them — finding 60 new diseases in the process. having a diagnosis can lead to better care, but for many of the families involved it's provided some valuable answers, as kevin hay reports.

when little mungo fisher was born mum jessica thought he was perfect. but as he missed developmental milestones, she knew something was wrong. but doctors couldn't tell her what? i didn't know that there are a lot of children without a diagnosis. so were going around known as swans, syndrome without a name. with him growing up, it was quite a lonely experience. you don't want to meet other parents with normal children because you're reminded that your child is not meeting those milestones. knock, knock. who's there? the fisher family took part in a long—running genetic study, and mungo, who was diagnosed with a previously unknown condition,

now named turnpenny—fry syndrome. soon, jessica was in touch with the mother of a little girl in australia with the same condition. when they exchanged photographs, jessica knew she was no longer alone. and that was the moment, more than the diagnosis, when i looked at a child that looked exactly like him, so he doesn't look like us. he doesn't look like his siblings. but alice could have been his sister. and it was wonderful. and ruth in australia felt the same thing. so we both immediately had that feeling of we might have been on the other side of the world, but we were no longer isolated. the study involving scientists at exeter university has helped diagnose over 5,000 people with developmental disorders and discovered 60 entirely new conditions. while the first individual patients may have taken decades to get a diagnosis now they're getting a diagnosisjust within a few months. so it's really rapidly accelerating the speed at which people can get some kind of answer. jessica has set up a facebook group and is now in touch with over 30

families worldwide who have children with mungo's condition. you always want your child to be unique, don't you? i hadn't realised how unique he was, but in some ways he's not as unique as i thought he was. he's very special. we're joined now in the studio by dr siddharth banka, who's a consultant clinical geneticist at the university of manchester and louise fish, who's the chief executive of charity genetic alliance uk, speaking to us from brighton. very good morning. peoplejust watching that report, this see the fish family, mum, jessica, and the relief and emotion of knowing somebody, it doesn't change the day—to—day life and how they have to operate, but it really gives you a sense ofjust how important it is to know something they didn't know before. it know something they didn't know before. ., , ., ., ., ., before. it does and there are around 7000 of these _ before. it does and there are around 7000 of these conditions _ before. it does and there are around 7000 of these conditions and - before. it does and there are around 7000 of these conditions and eight i 7000 of these conditions and eight out of ten of them we think we have

a genetic origin and it means somebody with a change to their genetic code meaning they have a lifelong condition, and some of those conditions are more common and better known, things like cystic fibrosis and down syndrome which many people watching will have heard of. but every year there are around 6000 children born in the uk with a very, very rare change to their genetic code, that means they may be the only person with that change in their genetic code, or one of a handful of people around the world like and go. we call that a syndrome without a name, or a is one condition, where wejust without a name, or a is one condition, where we just don't know enough about what that change to their genetic code means or how it might impact their lives that can be difficult forfamilies might impact their lives that can be difficult for families who find themselves with that comes makes one diagnosis. bhd themselves with that comes makes one dia . nosis. �* ., ,., ., diagnosis. and what we saw in that re oort was diagnosis. and what we saw in that report was that _ diagnosis. and what we saw in that report was that being _ diagnosis. and what we saw in that report was that being connected i diagnosis. and what we saw in that i report was that being connected with someone who has the same condition when probably spent many years thinking it'sjust when probably spent many years thinking it's just you, when probably spent many years thinking it'sjust you, that when probably spent many years thinking it's just you, that in itself is a massive step forward. it is. one of the projects we run at

genetic lives uk is to try and connect s1 families with each other and we work closely with another charity called unique that connects families who do get those very, very rare diagnoses just likejessica got with monger and try connect with other people around the world with that same condition because that connection and ability to connect with some body else who is effectively walking in your shoes is so important for people. dr siddharth banka, do we know why these genetic changes occur? 50 it these genetic changes occur? so it de-ends these genetic changes occur? so it depends on _ these genetic changes occur? so it depends on if— these genetic changes occur? so it depends on if one _ these genetic changes occur? so it depends on if one of _ these genetic changes occur? so it depends on if one of the parents, in some _ depends on if one of the parents, in some conditions, one of the parents might— some conditions, one of the parents might be _ some conditions, one of the parents might be carriers for these genetic changes. _ might be carriers for these genetic changes, and in a large proportion of individuals these changes just occur— of individuals these changes just occur by— of individuals these changes just occur by chance, either in the spurn or the _ occur by chance, either in the spurn or the egg. — occur by chance, either in the spurn or the egg. or— occur by chance, either in the spurn or the egg, or very early on during the development. and how does identifying exactly what has gone on help the _ identifying exactly what has gone on help the kind of further treatment, the life _ help the kind of further treatment, the life chances of the individuals?

so it helps — the life chances of the individuals? so it helps in certain diseases. we know— so it helps in certain diseases. we know there — so it helps in certain diseases. we know there are treatments and if you know _ know there are treatments and if you know exact _ know there are treatments and if you know exact what the genetic change is then— know exact what the genetic change is then you — know exact what the genetic change is then you will be able to start the appropriate treatment for that individual. you may also be able to prevent _ individual. you may also be able to prevent complications because you are able _ prevent complications because you are able to — prevent complications because you are able to put surveillance programmes in place so that those complications are caught in time. in addition. _ complications are caught in time. in addition. as— complications are caught in time. in addition, as you have just mentioned, being able to connect and share _ mentioned, being able to connect and share information, because many of these _ share information, because many of these conditions are so rare that actually— these conditions are so rare that actually the information about them is very— actually the information about them is very limited. so even if a handful— is very limited. so even if a handful of patients around the world. — handful of patients around the world. if— handful of patients around the world, if you can learn from them, it can _ world, if you can learn from them, it can be _ world, if you can learn from them, it can be immensely helpful for patients— it can be immensely helpful for patients and families. this affects a lot of people- — patients and families. this affects a lot of people. we're _ patients and families. this affects a lot of people. we're hearing - patients and families. this affects | a lot of people. we're hearing that 6000 children are born in the uk each year with a syndrome which has no name, so it is a discovery of something that wasn't known before. is that what is happening? absolutely and i think we are living in an— absolutely and i think we are living in an era _ absolutely and i think we are living in an era of— absolutely and i think we are living in an era of unprecedented discoveries in terms of our knowledge about genetic conditions.

there _ knowledge about genetic conditions. there has— knowledge about genetic conditions. there has been a step change in the last five _ there has been a step change in the last five or— there has been a step change in the last five or ten years and the study you just _ last five or ten years and the study you just mentioned on developmental disorders. _ you just mentioned on developmental disorders, orthe you just mentioned on developmental disorders, or the 100,000 genomes project. _ disorders, or the 100,000 genomes project. for— disorders, or the 100,000 genomes project, for example, have made a substantial— project, for example, have made a substantial contribution to our understanding. is it substantial contribution to our understanding.— substantial contribution to our understanding. is it still the case that a lot of _ understanding. is it still the case that a lot of these _ understanding. is it still the case that a lot of these conditions - understanding. is it still the case that a lot of these conditions will remain unknown? how is that described? what does it end up being when there is nothing, no detail, no record of something like that before? what happens to that condition?— condition? usually when, for example. — condition? usually when, for example. we _ condition? usually when, for example, we identify - condition? usually when, for example, we identify a - condition? usually when, for example, we identify a new. condition? usually when, for - example, we identify a new condition there _ example, we identify a new condition there is— example, we identify a new condition there is a _ example, we identify a new condition there is a peer—reviewed publication around _ there is a peer—reviewed publication around that— there is a peer—reviewed publication around that and that makes that as a recognised _ around that and that makes that as a recognised entity. so still, actually. _ recognised entity. so still, actually, probably every month a few dozen _ actually, probably every month a few dozen new— actually, probably every month a few dozen new genetic conditions have been _ dozen new genetic conditions have been described and discovered right now, been described and discovered right now. and _ been described and discovered right now, and it's estimated that a few hundred _ now, and it's estimated that a few hundred genetic conditions remain to be discovered. that hundred genetic conditions remain to be discovered-— be discovered. that is extraordinary but there are _

be discovered. that is extraordinary but there are still _ be discovered. that is extraordinary but there are still so _ be discovered. that is extraordinary but there are still so much - be discovered. that is extraordinary but there are still so much that - be discovered. that is extraordinary but there are still so much that we i but there are still so much that we don't know. louise, when parents go through this, perhaps they begin to see one or two signs of developmental challenges that their babyis developmental challenges that their baby is experiencing, so the warning signs are there, and then they go into this unknown world of what exactly is going wrong. how can you support parents? it must be really frightening process. i support parents? it must be really frightening process.— frightening process. i think it is a really challenging _ frightening process. i think it is a really challenging for— frightening process. i think it is a really challenging for parents. i frightening process. i think it is a i really challenging for parents. when they hear that there is no diagnosis and the studies that have been mentioned, like the 100,000 genomes project, an awful lot of families who have not had a diagnosis previously were able to go through that programme and it's fantastic. it is still only give an answer to one out of four of them, so there is still so much that we still don't know and for those families that even having gone through these incredible programmes to find an answer, don't find out what the condition that the child has and is going to mean for the rest of their lives, i think that uncertainty is

really challenging for families. you know your child has a genetic condition but there is nothing known about it and you don't know whether the impacts you can see with them as a baby or a child, or whether the condition will get worse over time, so if the families dealing with that uncertainty it is really challenging. the other thing that can be really challenging is the lack of understanding from the services that should be there to support them. in some parts of the nhs, perhaps where genetics isn't so well understood, or in schools where children need vital support, people hear that there isn't a diagnosis and think there is nothing wrong, whereas actually this is a child with a very serious lifelong condition who is going to need an awful lot of help to make sure they can reach their potential and live their lives to the full. so that lack of a diagnosis should absolutely not stop people accessing the support they need when they have a syndrome without a name. huge credit to you _ a syndrome without a name. huge credit to you both, _ a syndrome without a name. huge credit to you both, louise - a syndrome without a name. huge credit to you both, louise fish from the genetic alliance, and dr siddharth banka for the work you are doing in this field, thank you very

much. the time is 8.26. tomorrow the london marathon returns to its traditional date in april, having taken place, you might remember, notable for the past three years due to comp locations to do with the pandemic. this year, however, there's a different set of challenges as climate activists plan protests which have the potential to disrupt the race. we'rejoined now from central london by hugh brasher. he's the race director and has been preparing for tomorrow. iam i am looking behind you and i am seeing, where are we in the race? is this the starting point? this seeing, where are we in the race? is this the starting point?— this the starting point? this is the finish line and _ this the starting point? this is the finish line and we _ this the starting point? this is the finish line and we are _ this the starting point? this is the finish line and we are about - this the starting point? this is the finish line and we are about to - this the starting point? this is the i finish line and we are about to have 7000 kids from the age of four macro— 17 and the young people, running either one mile, or 2.6 k, and each one of those will be rewarded by getting £10 for their school for the sports equipment or computer equipment by tcs, so it's an initiative by the london marathon

to inspire activity, which is what we are all about, so we are delighted that's about to start at nine o'clock this morning. 50 nine o'clock this morning. so somewhere around you, i don't know in which direction, there is a bunch of very excited would—be athletes. 0ver that way? of very excited would-be athletes. 0ver that way?— of very excited would-be athletes. over that way? absolutely. they will be comino over that way? absolutely. they will be coming here _ over that way? absolutely. they will be coming here between _ over that way? absolutely. they will be coming here between 9am - over that way? absolutely. they will be coming here between 9am and i over that way? absolutely. they will. be coming here between 9am and about one o'clock today. the team will be trying to control kids. but it's about inspiration and we are here on the mall, buckingham palace in the background, the finishing arches are right in front of me, and it's just all about inspiring activity. right in front of me, and it's 'ust all about inspiring activity. whew, ou and i all about inspiring activity. whew, you and l spoke — all about inspiring activity. whew, you and i spoke on _ all about inspiring activity. whew, you and i spoke on the _ all about inspiring activity. whew, you and i spoke on the bbc- all about inspiring activity. whew, | you and i spoke on the bbc earlier this week and we talked about some of the challenges with the huge presence of protesters in central london this weekend. you explained to me how you have been working with extinction rebellion, and they were very supportive of the marathon, wanted to do everything they could to make sure that the event took place safely. the slightly unknown element was the just stop

place safely. the slightly unknown element was thejust stop 0il protesters. we had one message saying they were not going to do anything to disrupt but then we had subsequently they are not making any guarantees. where do we stand on that at the moment and how are you planning for it? irate that at the moment and how are you planning for it?— planning for it? we have loads of mitigations _ planning for it? we have loads of mitigations in _ planning for it? we have loads of mitigations in place, _ planning for it? we have loads of mitigations in place, we've - planning for it? we have loads of mitigations in place, we've been| mitigations in place, we've been having conversations withjust stop 0il having conversations withjust stop oil and with extinction rebellion. extinction rebellion have been four or five extinction rebellion have been four orfive months, and they've been very clear that it's about they want to get a protest and we have a democracy where people are allowed to protest, and we should be able to coexist on the same streets absolutely. the position they have taken which is just instructing their stewards to look out for any trouble making, should there be any, but i really think the bigger picture here that people have acknowledged is we run these claims for clean air, for amazing causes, over £60 million will be raised for good causes, we have a health and obesity crisis, we are trying to inspire kids, this is what today is

about of this is about doing good for society, and therefore, this is an event that people welcome. {bitten an event that people welcome. given what ou an event that people welcome. given what you have _ an event that people welcome. given what you have said, _ an event that people welcome. given what you have said, and _ an event that people welcome. given what you have said, and i— an event that people welcome. given what you have said, and i take on board the wider message of why people are running them often for environmental reasons, absolutely right, but given what you have said there, how are you feeling about tomorrow in terms of the concern, the genuine concern there has been, about how it might work in practice? there is an absolutely amazing team that work on this event, the support we get from the metropolitan police, royal parks, westminster council, we have, every year, loads and loads of contingency plans in place and we have upped those contingency plans. yes it puts extra pressure on the team but, you know, that's what we are about, putting on these great events that inspire activity. getting people to run, remember causes, whether they've lost a loved

one to cancer, whether it is great 0rmond street hospital, the amazing work they do... we are as confident as we can possibly be in all the amazing work that the team do and that london and the stakeholders have done in supporting us to that effect. ., ~ have done in supporting us to that effect. ., ,, , ., have done in supporting us to that effect. ., ~' , ., , have done in supporting us to that effect. ., ,, i. , . have done in supporting us to that effect. ., , . , , ., effect. thank you very much, best of luck tomorrow, _ effect. thank you very much, best of luck tomorrow, i _ effect. thank you very much, best of luck tomorrow, i hope _ effect. thank you very much, best of luck tomorrow, i hope it _ effect. thank you very much, best of luck tomorrow, i hope it goes - effect. thank you very much, best of luck tomorrow, i hope it goes but. luck tomorrow, i hope it goes but only for you but more importantly all the runners and spectators. cheers! ., ., ~ , ., cheers! yeah, and the kids today. yes, of course! _ cheers! yeah, and the kids today. yes, of course! our— cheers! yeah, and the kids today. yes, of course! our very - cheers! yeah, and the kids today. yes, of course! our very own - cheers! yeah, and the kids today. yes, of course! our very own nickj yes, of course! our very own nick eardley, bbc chief political correspondent is running tomorrow. is he?! i know people take these runs very seriously, they have targets at times in mind, do we know? i targets at times in mind, do we know? . , targets at times in mind, do we know? j, , ., , , targets at times in mind, do we know? , ., , , . know? i reckon he is a pretty decent runner. know? i reckon he is a pretty decent runner- i'm — know? i reckon he is a pretty decent runner- i'm not _ know? i reckon he is a pretty decent runner. i'm not going _ know? i reckon he is a pretty decent runner. i'm not going to _ know? i reckon he is a pretty decent runner. i'm not going to say - know? i reckon he is a pretty decent runner. i'm not going to say what, i | runner. i'm not going to say what, i don't want to put pressure on him! it's not about pressure! h0 it's not about pressure! no pressure. _ it's not about pressure! no pressure. but _ it's not about pressure! no pressure. but i _ it's not about pressure! no pressure. but i am sure you will find out once he resurfaces post marathon. don't forget... and you can watch live coverage of the london marathon

tomorrow morning, from 8.30am, on bbc one. we've been talking about text scams this morning, thank you for getting in touch. specifically the ones that target parents and seemingly from their children. 0ne viewer got in touch to say they fell victim to one of these scams. they said: "i sent almost £2,500 and felt so violated and ashamed. "it was a year ago and i still feel humiliated". that sense of shame once you have been scammed is really common, isn't it? here's another one. cheryl got in touch to say: 0k, ok, that works! clearly, sometimes it is very clear that this is not who it purports to be but other

times they are very clever in the way they target people, the kind of phrases they use. they are believable. the problem with scams is that if people feel ashamed and don't talk about it, the less we know about them. it is always useful to share these experiences. have you been a victim of a scam like this? let us know your experience. you can send us a message on whatsapp — the number is on screen, orjust scan the qr code with your phone's camera and that will automatically start a chat with us. you can still get in touch with us by email, and on twitter as well. the time is 8:33am. dominic raab resigned yesterday following a report into bullying allegations against him, but in his resignation letter, the former deputy prime minister was keen to stress that he felt the bar for bullying was too "low" and "activist civil servants were blocking government reform". that was something he was keen to reiterate during an interview with the bbc�*s political editor chris mason.

if you look at the tolley report, it dismissed almost all of the claims against me. it found i'd never once in four and a half years lost my temper, sworn, shouted, anything of that nature. but it also highlighted may be two or three instances where i'd been what they described as unintentionally abrasive. whether it was speaking very directly to a senior civil servant who had breached a mandate on a very important negotiation, or the language i used was getting basic information for budgetary meeting worth hundreds of millions of pounds. if the bar, the threshold, for bullying is lowered that low, it's almost impossible for ministers to deliverfor the british people. and i think it'll have a chilling effect on effective government and the british people will pay the price. isn't the blunt truth, when you read all of this report, that a fair minded person reading it would conclude that, i mean, to be crude, that you're a nightmare to work for? well, actually, almost all of the complaints against me were dismissed. and what this doesn't give you, it's a handful of very senior officials...

none of thejunior complaints were upheld. and i got on and dealt with hundreds of civil servants, thousands of other people in prison service and the court service. and what you've got is the risk here, a very small minority of very activist civil servants with the passive aggressive culture of the civil service, who don't like some of the reforms, whether it's brexit, whether it's parole reform, whether its human rights reform, effectively trying to block government. that's not on. that's not democratic. labour mp andrew gwynne is with us this morning on the sofa. there were eight complaints, six were not upheld and two were, dominic raab has resigned, end of the matter?— the matter? well, at face value it is end of the _ the matter? well, at face value it is end of the matter _ the matter? well, at face value it is end of the matter but - the matter? well, at face value it is end of the matter but there - the matter? well, at face value it is end of the matter but there is i the matter? well, at face value it| is end of the matter but there is a serious issue here because there have been issues permeating the corridors of power in westminster for a while now about the alleged

behaviour of dominic raab, notjust in his current department but in previous departments, as well. and, obviously, people have blown the whistle, civil servants have blown the whistle on his behaviour. there's been an investigation and, as you rightly say, he has been found to have been acting in a bullying behaviour in a couple of those instances. there is part of me that thinks, firstly, he shouldn't have been given the privilege of resigning on his own terms will stop his resignation letter is disgraceful. it doubles down on the issues. —— his own terms. it does a complete disservice to those civil servants who blew the whistle on his behaviour but also because those rumours had been very widely known around westminster. time, it does beg the question, firstly, why rishi sunak put him in the position of deputy prime minister in the first

place and why he didn't sack him rather than allowing him to resign on his own terms. it is rather than allowing him to resign on his own terms.— on his own terms. it is all a bit nuanced. _ on his own terms. it is all a bit nuanced, the _ on his own terms. it is all a bit nuanced, the report _ on his own terms. it is all a bit nuanced, the report is - on his own terms. it is all a bit nuanced, the report is not - on his own terms. it is all a bit. nuanced, the report is not black on his own terms. it is all a bit - nuanced, the report is not black or white by any means, it doesn't find him guilty of harassment or intimidation. his approach, his manner, it says, could be abrasive. some people say this is about him as an individual being a very exacting boss, demanding high standards, not the same as being a bully. that’s the same as being a bully. that's true but there _ the same as being a bully. that's true but there is _ the same as being a bully. that's true but there is a _ the same as being a bully. that's true but there is a fine _ the same as being a bully. that's true but there is a fine line. - the same as being a bully. that's true but there is a fine line. it. the same as being a bully. that's true but there is a fine line. it is| true but there is a fine line. it is absolutely appropriate that ministers can expect the correct information that they've asked for, that they can expect the level of detail that they've asked for. if they don't get that... is it ok, then, if you get wrong information to call that work useless or woefully inadequate? the manner by which you do it has to be professional.— which you do it has to be professional. which you do it has to be orofessional. ., , ., ., professional. so, the words that are ok but it is — professional. so, the words that are ok but it is the — professional. so, the words that are ok but it is the delivery? _ professional. so, the words that are ok but it is the delivery? i'm - professional. so, the words that are ok but it is the delivery? i'm not. ok but it is the delivery? i'm not sure the words _ ok but it is the delivery? i'm not sure the words are _ ok but it is the delivery? i'm not sure the words are ok _ ok but it is the delivery? i'm not sure the words are ok either, i ok but it is the delivery? i'm not i sure the words are ok either, there is a way of saying this isn't what i'd asked for without being

threatening or intimidating or making people feel that they are worthless or useless. i do think management style matters a lot. we are very privileged in this country to have an independent civil service, not a political civil service, not a political civil service like, for example, in the united states of america. one that serves governments of all political persuasions. there will be some brilliant civil servants around that serve the governments of tony blair and labour brown. they moved on to the conservative governments of cameron and theresa may and johnson. very briefly liz truss and sunak. it is incumbent on ministers to treat their civil servants with the utmost respect. he their civil servants with the utmost res-ect. ., , �* ~' , respect. he doesn't think every sin . le respect. he doesn't think every single one _ respect. he doesn't think every single one of — respect. he doesn't think every single one of them _ respect. he doesn't think every single one of them is _ respect. he doesn't think every single one of them is as - single one of them is as professional as they could or should be. do you think it is possible that there are some, may be only a handful, a civil servant activist

civil servant, as he describes them, who are obstructive to government policy they don't like? talk to politicians of all colours and they will say at some point in government they may have encountered that. if there are, and i don't know there are, he says that is his perception, should have raised that with the permanent secretary in his department and it should have been dealt with by the permanent secretary in a professional way. it is not the responsibility of the secretary of state or any other minister to belittle and bully and intimidate members of staff of the paid civil service because they think they have their own political motivation. ., . think they have their own political motivation-— motivation. you must have seen behave like _ motivation. you must have seen behave like that _ motivation. you must have seen behave like that before - motivation. you must have seen behave like that before in - behave like that before in westminster! it behave like that before in westminster!— behave like that before in westminster! ., , �* .,~ westminster! it doesn't make it acceptable- _ westminster! it doesn't make it acceptable. but _ westminster! it doesn't make it acceptable. but have _ westminster! it doesn't make it acceptable. but have you - westminster! it doesn't make it acceptable. but have you seen i acceptable. but have you seen anything like that from your own party? i haven't, to be fair, i really haven't but that's not to say that bullying and intimidation doesn't go on, doesn't happen. where

it happens, it has to be called out. and i pay tribute to those civil servants that did blow the whistle on what they felt was inappropriate behaviour. hat on what they felt was inappropriate behaviour. ., , . , ., behaviour. not every civil servant feels that way — behaviour. not every civil servant feels that way and _ behaviour. not every civil servant feels that way and there - behaviour. not every civil servant feels that way and there have - behaviour. not every civil servant i feels that way and there have been behaviour. not every civil servant. feels that way and there have been a number who have come out and said they really enjoy working for him. one quoted in one of the papers who formerly worked under him at the ministry ofjustice who says, "when the stakes are as high as they are at the top of government perhaps ministers should be able to tell people that their work isn't good enough, that is what the people who pay their wages would expect". absolutely. you would expect a minister, if they haven't got the correct detail or the precise things that they had asked for to say, in a professional way, this isn't what i wanted. this is what i want. you don't do it in an intimidating manner. if they feel that the civil servants in question are deliberately not giving the correct information, that's something that you take up with their line manager and that's the permanent secretary. just one nurse is, if we can. the

rcn have doubled down on their intention to strike at the end of april and started making the nhs bosses say they don't believe that this is entirely legal because it just falls outside the six month time period that they are allowed to call strike action from the original ballot. just by a few hours. the rcn had been on this programme this morning and said theyjust think this is underhand tactics from the government. but do you think the rcn should be rethinking those strike dates now?— dates now? look, pat cullen has riuhtl dates now? look, pat cullen has rightly said _ dates now? look, pat cullen has rightly said she _ dates now? look, pat cullen has rightly said she wants _ dates now? look, pat cullen has rightly said she wants to - dates now? look, pat cullen has rightly said she wants to be - dates now? look, pat cullen has rightly said she wants to be in i dates now? look, pat cullen has| rightly said she wants to be in the negotiating room, not the court room. i think this is symptomatic of the failure of the government to leave it a right to the 11th hour to even start negotiations with the nursing unions.— even start negotiations with the nursing unions. even start negotiations with the nursin: unions. , ., �*, ., ., nursing unions. sorry, that's not an answer. nursing unions. sorry, that's not an answer- you _ nursing unions. sorry, that's not an answer. you think _ nursing unions. sorry, that's not an answer. you think the _ nursing unions. sorry, that's not an answer. you think the nurses - nursing unions. sorry, that's not an | answer. you think the nurses should be rethinking — answer. you think the nurses should be rethinking strikes? _ answer. you think the nurses should be rethinking strikes? i— answer. you think the nurses should be rethinking strikes? i don't- answer. you think the nurses should be rethinking strikes? i don't want i be rethinking strikes? i don't want to see any strikes.— be rethinking strikes? i don't want to see any strikes. nobody does. do ou think to see any strikes. nobody does. do you think they _ to see any strikes. nobody does. do you think they should _ to see any strikes. nobody does. do you think they should be _ to see any strikes. nobody does. do you think they should be rethinking l you think they should be rethinking the strike dates?— the strike dates? patients pay the rice. but the strike dates? patients pay the price. but what _ the strike dates? patients pay the price. but what i _ the strike dates? patients pay the price. but what i want _ the strike dates? patients pay the price. but what i want to - the strike dates? patients pay the price. but what i want to see - the strike dates? patients pay the price. but what i want to see is i the strike dates? patients pay the | price. but what i want to see is the government avoid another conflict

with the unions. we've got to get to a position where they nurses feel that they are loved again, that their issues are addressed and it's notjust their issues are addressed and it's not just about pay, their issues are addressed and it's notjust about pay, it is terms and conditions and the workforce pressures and so on. and we are not getting that from rishi sunak and steve barclay. getting that from rishi sunak and steve barclay-— getting that from rishi sunak and steve barcla . �* , , ., ~ steve barclay. andrew gwynne, thank ou ve steve barclay. andrew gwynne, thank you very much- _ steve barclay. andrew gwynne, thank you very much. the _ steve barclay. andrew gwynne, thank you very much. the time _ steve barclay. andrew gwynne, thank you very much. the time is _ steve barclay. andrew gwynne, thank you very much. the time is 8:42am. | tens of thousands of runners will be making their final preparations ahead of the marathon tomorrow and many people will be running to raise money for a cause close to their hearts — like sam wilson hartles. he decided to do it for great ormond street hospital, after his friends two children spent time under their care. olympic gold medallist jessica—ennis hill, has been to meet them. hi. hello. hi, luke. nice to meet you. you ok? yeah, good thank you. good. nice to meet you. nice to meet you, and this must be little ralphie.

can you tell me a little bit about huxley? huxley was our first born. he was born with undiagnosed down's syndrome, which was something that we was prepared to, kind of... this is who he is and he's a beautiful little boy. and we're going to bring him up to be a little character and give him everything he needs. he got poorly very quickly. and then he had to be rushed to great ormond street - for an operation, - which, unfortunately, he didn't make through. baby coos ralphie, he was born, fantastic weight, - really thriving. and then the nightmare started.

he had this lump come up on the back of his head, . and as the days went on, - it was kind of getting bigger. and then over the next few days, i noticed he started then- coming up with these little marks on his body. - his white blood count was quite high, which would have indicated some kind of infection. how did it feel when you when you got the news? the doctor came in to us and said they would like to take ralphie to great ormond street for further investigation. so, i had to sit on the floor because if i didn't, i would have fallen over. you would have passed out. i heard word leukemia and ijust ran out of the room. _ ijust couldn't be in there. how did you cope? it's horrendous. there's your darling grandson just fighting for his life, and your children are in bits, and, you know, what do you do? you just somehow have to find a way of getting round it. so i can imagine you were on a massive roller—coaster of emotions when you were in the hospital. how did you manage

those hard moments? being silly. we would always make sure the room was a good environment. _ like, put the music on. let's spend every little minute of the day with ralphie. - let's play with him. let's do that. and you're just in this room, and all day you're just... - just made it a positive environment, didn't we? yeah. # hello? # hello, hello.# so, mother's day was obviously a very special day for you because you got to ring the bell. yeah, it was amazing. bell rings it was the only thing i could have wished for, to be honest, - to get him home on mother's day. i've been best friends with luke forfive, six years now. it's a testament to luke and sophie as a couple that they were so strong when going through it. you've decided to run

the london marathon in memory of huxley and for ralphie. yeah, exactly. and i think running the london marathon for great ormond street hospital, i've seen firsthand just how incredible they've been for soph and luke. and i really wanted to show my appreciation for great ormond street hospital and run the marathon for them. uncle sam's going through all this pain for you, mate. it means a lot to us that he's doing it, to raise this money for the new cancer centre it'll be huge for the families who, unfortunately, will end up having to go there. i honestly believe that he is where he is today because of where he was. seeing everything the great ormond street hospital have done for sophie, luke, and ralphie has really given me the motivation to push on, so fingers crossed, i'll make it through one piece. i'll make it through in one piece. so lovely. so many stories like that. we were talking to chris a little while ago and you probably know all this, they have the youngsters there. i know all this, they have the youngsters there.— know all this, they have the

youngsters there. i was watching. the are youngsters there. i was watching. they are doing — youngsters there. i was watching. they are doing a _ youngsters there. i was watching. they are doing a mile _ youngsters there. i was watching. they are doing a mile or - youngsters there. i was watching. they are doing a mile or whatever youngsters there. i was watching. l they are doing a mile or whatever it is. i: i: i: i: ., , is. 40,000 individuals with their own causes _ is. 40,000 individuals with their own causes and _ is. 40,000 individuals with their own causes and their _ is. 40,000 individuals with their own causes and their own - is. 40,000 individuals with their| own causes and their own stories is. 40,000 individuals with their - own causes and their own stories but with the collective mass and the support. with the collective mass and the su ort. ., , with the collective mass and the suuort. . , ., ., ., with the collective mass and the suuort. ., , ., ., . ., support. really emotional if you are a sectator support. really emotional if you are a spectatoriust _ support. really emotional if you are a spectatorjust watching. _ support. really emotional if you are a spectatorjust watching. yeah, - support. really emotional if you are a spectatorjust watching. yeah, all| a spectator 'ust watching. yeah, all those a spectatorjust watching. yeah, all those causes. _ a spectatorjust watching. yeah, all those causes, individual _ a spectatorjust watching. yeah, all those causes, individual causes, i those causes, individual causes, driving all those runners on. through the training nights, cold winter nights injanuary all the way to the finish line hopefully tomorrow. you can watch it tomorrow. 8:30am tomorrow morning on bbc one. all the build—up and then the race itself. football. sometimes at this stage of the season, you get these matches that deliver so much and last night, two teams desperate to win for different reasons. southampton bottom and a lot of people have given up on them in terms of staying up. they performed padelli against arsenal, top of the league, needed to win to keep that title charge on course and ended up 3—3, doesn't do either any favours in the end but what drama! what impact it could have at the top and bottom. arsenal do still have their destiny, in their own hands,

as they chase the premier league title, but they will need to win now, at second placed manchester city next week. arsenal could only manage, a 3—3 draw in an extarordinary match, against bottom side southampton, at the emirates. the gunners were actually 3—1 down with a couple of minutes of normal time left, before they salvaged a draw. here's our correspondent natalie pirks. it was top versus bottom, with both sides feeling the pressure under the lights. with both sides feeling the pressure arsenal's gallop to the title has stuttered of late and their nerves were on show right from the off. commentator: arsenal concede! alcaraz! carlos alcaraz couldn't believe his luck as the emirates was stunned into silence. i mean, look at mikel arteta there. southampton are fighting for their premier league lives, but if arsenal thought it couldn't get worse, the home fans were in disbelief. time for a good talking to. it worked. arsenal's deficit was halved in the blink of an eye. but as they pressed hard for the equaliser, they switched off at a crucial moment. caleta—car! oh, boy. exasperation versus elation.

the gunners simply had to go for it. cue a frantic ending. odegaard. mere seconds later saka made it 3—3. a thrilling draw, though, that helped neither side as arsenal's title dream is looking shaky with manchester city up next. natalie pirks, bbc news. manchester city are in the fa cup semifinals this weekend. they chased the treble. they face sheffield united, who are second in the championship, and premier leaue bound it would seem but today, they'll need to pull off an almighty cup upset. sheffield united have upset the odds already this season, defeating tottenham in the fifth round. but this is different — it's manchester city — who are chasing a treble of trophies and are in unstoppable form at the moment, although they have lost at this stage of the fa cup, in the last three seasons. wrexham could be promoted back into the football league

for the first time in 15 years this evening and get the hollywood storyline their film star owners have been aiming for since they took overjust over a couple of years ago. the moment their club can escape non—league football, and they'll achieve that tonight with a victory over boreham wood at the racecourse ground. hollywood stars rob mackle—henney and ryan reynolds have pumped in millions of pounds into the club and theirjourney has been turned into a global tv series, meaning this game will be followed by new fans all over the world. we will go there live hearing from a special fan who came all the way over from alabama, special fan who came all the way overfrom alabama, one special fan who came all the way over from alabama, one of the new fans attracted by the tv series. "don't rattle my cage" is what ronnie 0'sullivan said to his opponent, hossein vafai, ahead of their match at the world snooker championship. it was after the iranian star had said "0'sullivan is a nice guy when he's alseep. guy when he's alseep". and that was all before

they started playing... when they did, the qualifier, from iran, astonished the crucible audience when he just smashed the pack of reds, from the break in the second frame. in a hit and hope shot. this sort of shot you see in a pub, not the world championship. but the defending champion was far from intimidated, and 0'sullivan leads the match by six frames to two. comentatorjohn virgo called what vafaei did, "disrespectful". we were scratching our heads as to why but there is probably a reason because 0'sullivan did that to the opponent last year. lots of needle. but to do that in a world championship on the biggest match in their career to do what you do in their career to do what you do in the pub, hit and hope smash, pot luck where it ends up is just extraordinary. it luck where it ends up is 'ust extraordinary.i luck where it ends up is 'ust extraordina . ., ., ~ extraordinary. it could have worked in his favour— extraordinary. it could have worked in his favour if _ extraordinary. it could have worked in his favour if some _ extraordinary. it could have worked in his favour if some had _ extraordinary. it could have worked in his favour if some had gone i extraordinary. it could have worked in his favour if some had gone in. l in his favour if some had gone in. not against the rocket. didn't phase him at all. ., ~ , not against the rocket. didn't phase him at all. ., ~' ,, , . here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. i'm afraid the sun has gone to be replaced by this! hat i'm afraid the sun has gone to be replaced by this!— i'm afraid the sun has gone to be replaced by this! not for everyone, thouah but replaced by this! not for everyone, though but not _ replaced by this! not for everyone, though but not as _ replaced by this! not for everyone, though but not as much _ replaced by this! not for everyone, though but not as much sunshine l though but not as much sunshine compared to the blue skies of the

week. good morning. the landscape pretty devoid of colour. mist and fog this morning in the midlands, southern england and east wales especially. notjust that, rain in the forecast. some patchy rain pushing into southern coastal counties, mainly the south—west, fizzling out in the south—east but a wetter day to come. far north of england, far south of scotland and northern ireland, on and off through the day. londonderry, derry, may stay dry, glasgow and stirling. north, plenty sunshine away from the north east coasts where there will be low cloud. developing breeze the northwest of scotland, knocking back the temperature a bit but still 16 here. slightly warmer day across the midlands, eastern england and it will be dry and brighter than yesterday. tonight, the rain will fizzle out for some. some works through parts of wales, the midlands, northern england once again and heavier bursts in the south west later. if you see any clear skies, there will be a small, very small, chance of a touch of frost but mostly frost free into

sunday. as for sunday, plenty of cloud around at outbreaks of rain in the south—west edging towards the london area, it will hit the london marathon, rain on and off through the race. the rain spreading to east anglia, parts of england, yorkshire and lincolnshire and some rain at times by the west. the far north of england, southern scotland, northern ireland, one or two showers but brighter than yesterday. far north of scotland, windy with gales and a much colder day. just 7 or 8 degrees. much colder day. just 7 or 8 degrees-— an author who's written a book about climate change for children has teamed up with a very high profile environmentalist — king charles. thanks very much. 8:53am. christopher lloyd's book is called it's up to us and he says the monarch inspired him to write it. it's now been turned into an animated film for earth day. let's take a look. children have a unique curiosity for nature and for this amazing planet we call home. ever since the earth was formed more than 4 billion years ago, its temperature

has been changing. what the world needs is for children all around it to imagine the type of future you want to build. together, we must imagine a brighter future and work together across the world to make it come true. because... all: it's up to us. it's up to us. a children's terra carta. for nature, people, and planet. and christopher or chris, as you've just told us, you prefer chris, don't you?— just told us, you prefer chris, don't you? is don't you? yes, chris is great. is that what — don't you? yes, chris is great. is that what you — don't you? yes, chris is great. is that what you told _ don't you? yes, chris is great. is that what you told king - don't you? yes, chris is great. is that what you told king charles? | that what you told king charles? yes, just call me chris, it's a good line. yes, 'ust call me chris, it's a good line. ~ ., ., , yes, 'ust call me chris, it's a good line. ., ., _. , yes, 'ust call me chris, it's a good line.., ,~ line. what lovely pictures. we were 'ust line. what lovely pictures. we were just saying. — line. what lovely pictures. we were just saying. like _ line. what lovely pictures. we were just saying, like pastels. _ line. what lovely pictures. we were just saying, like pastels. like i just saying, like pastels. like pastels of some kind, i don't know. yes, there are 33 different artists in the book and they all have their own individual styles.— own individual styles. beautiful! usuall , own individual styles. beautiful! usually. in _ own individual styles. beautiful! usually. in a _ own individual styles. beautiful! usually, in a children's - own individual styles. beautiful!

usually, in a children's but i own individual styles. beautiful! usually, in a children's but you. usually, in a children's but you have one artist to keep continuity but this time we wanted as many artists to tell the story through as many different cultural lenses as possible because, of course, the story is all about how it is up to us as a planet, just one people. tell us the story of how it all came to life, the animation.— to life, the animation. indeed, it started off _ to life, the animation. indeed, it started off with _ to life, the animation. indeed, it started off with the _ to life, the animation. indeed, it started off with the idea, - to life, the animation. indeed, it started off with the idea, the i started off with the idea, the prince of wales had had now king charles, of course, for a new treaty with the planet, a terra carta. it was initially aimed at business leaders and i am a children's author. i thought we could have a bigger impact by doing a children's book. because children need to have a conversation, really, with the adults in their lives about how we think more longer term about the planet and the future. that is where the origin of the book came from. now, that has been turned into an animation, which is absolutely fantastic. this animation, which is absolutely fantastic. �* , ., , animation, which is absolutely fantastic. a . , ., fantastic. as we heard, 'ust a moment ago. i fantastic. as we heard, 'ust a moment ago, king i fantastic. as we heard, just a moment ago, king charles i fantastic. as we heard, just a moment ago, king charles is| fantastic. as we heard, just a i moment ago, king charles is the voice. ~ ., , voice. well, he has written the foreword to — voice. well, he has written the foreword to the _ voice. well, he has written the foreword to the book - voice. well, he has written the foreword to the book and i voice. well, he has written the foreword to the book and he i voice. well, he has written the i foreword to the book and he has written some really inspiring words about how children have a unique

curiosity for nature. in a way, children are much more in touch with nature than we are as adults because we sort of lose touch and we become apart from nature. sometimes we need to remind ourselves that we are part of nature and children can be key to making that connection. [30 of nature and children can be key to making that connection.— of nature and children can be key to making that connection. do you think that is the case _ making that connection. do you think that is the case now? _ making that connection. do you think that is the case now? i'm _ making that connection. do you think that is the case now? i'm not - making that connection. do you think that is the case now? i'm not sure i that is the case now? i'm not sure how aware you were as a child of the big picture stuff. do you think there is a generation now of young people who are in an entirely different place? i people who are in an entirely different place?— people who are in an entirely different place? people who are in an entirely different lace? ., . ., different place? i do and from quite an early age- _ different place? i do and from quite an early age. when _ an early age. when children become aware of their surroundings from the age of about five and six and seven, they're able to think about really important and significant things and to care. they care about animals instinctively. they care about being outside and feeling the wind on theirface, they outside and feeling the wind on their face, they want to go to the beach, for a walk in the woods. we lose touch when we are worried about jobs and mortgages. they are the ones who are key to thinking long—term. ones who are key to thinking long-term— ones who are key to thinking long-term. you talk about the involvement _ long-term. you talk about the involvement of _ long-term. you talk about the involvement of the _ long-term. you talk about the involvement of the king. i long-term. you talk about the involvement of the king. we l long-term. you talk about the l involvement of the king. we can long-term. you talk about the i involvement of the king. we can play a special message from king charles, asking children to get involved,

which was actually filmed last year when he was still prince of wales. that's right, yes.— that's right, yes. here's my challenge — that's right, yes. here's my challenge to _ that's right, yes. here's my challenge to you. _ that's right, yes. here's my challenge to you. take i that's right, yes. here's my challenge to you. take out. that's right, yes. here's my| challenge to you. take out a that's right, yes. here's my i challenge to you. take out a blank piece _ challenge to you. take out a blank piece of— challenge to you. take out a blank piece of paper and draw, paint, or write _ piece of paper and draw, paint, or write about — piece of paper and draw, paint, or write about the future you would like to _ write about the future you would like to see. one that puts nature at the heart _ like to see. one that puts nature at the heart of— like to see. one that puts nature at the heart of everything we do. that way we _ the heart of everything we do. that way we can— the heart of everything we do. that way we can share our ideas with as many— way we can share our ideas with as many people as possible.- many people as possible. talking about the way — many people as possible. talking about the way children _ many people as possible. talking about the way children now- many people as possible. talking about the way children now are i many people as possible. talking| about the way children now are so absorbed with the concept of climate change and protecting the planet, it is kind of now part of their dna almost in the things they talk about in school. it almost in the things they talk about in school. , almost in the things they talk about in school.- but _ almost in the things they talk about in school. it is. but sometimes it's 'ust in school. it is. but sometimes it's just about — in school. it is. but sometimes it's just about the _ in school. it is. but sometimes it's just about the pure _ in school. it 3 but sometimes it's just about the pure joy and appreciation of the world around us and i will never forget taking my son out for ourfirst and i will never forget taking my son out for our first sort of exploratory walk beyond our local area during lockdown, when you could go a little bit further away and we went to a nearby woods and he just ran to a tree and wrapped his arms

around it. ., �* , ran to a tree and wrapped his arms around it. . �*, ., .,, . ran to a tree and wrapped his arms around it._ and i ran to a tree and wrapped his arms around it._ and it l around it. that's fantastic. and it was so powerful, _ around it. that's fantastic. and it was so powerful, that _ around it. that's fantastic. and it was so powerful, that moment, l around it. that's fantastic. and it i was so powerful, that moment, but we forget it. taste was so powerful, that moment, but we foruet it. ~ ., , i. , forget it. we do, but you remember it because it — forget it. we do, but you remember it because it was _ forget it. we do, but you remember it because it was your _ forget it. we do, but you remember it because it was your child - forget it. we do, but you remember it because it was your child and i forget it. we do, but you remember it because it was your child and you | it because it was your child and you are witness to it. that is the point of this book, it's up to us is about connecting young people and activating them to celebrate nature in a way that adults sort of stop their normal way of life and think, gosh, this is really important, this is really special. if we can get that dialogue to flow, which is why i think doing this to a children's book and appealing, as the king has just done, to children to write and draw and paint a future that puts nature first, adults may be able to pay more attention, which is of course... d0 pay more attention, which is of course- - -_ pay more attention, which is of course... ., .,, course... do you have to be careful as a children's _ course... do you have to be careful as a children's author— course... do you have to be careful as a children's author not _ course... do you have to be careful as a children's author not to - as a children's author not to patronise children? there is a lot of information out there and they know stuff, maybe more so than we did before! there's a balance to be had, isn't there? making sure you have a message and they will understand it but you're not kind of stating the glaringly obvious. ida. stating the glaringly obvious. no, no. to be honest, _

stating the glaringly obvious. mfr, no. to be honest, i would stating the glaringly obvious. mfr, no. to be honest, iwould never no. to be honest, i would never patronise children. i spent my career going into schools, doing workshops and i learn as much from them if not more. that is interesting.— them if not more. that is interestinu. ~' ,, . ,, ., interesting. like q and a sessions? absolutely- — interesting. like q and a sessions? absolutely. they _ interesting. like q and a sessions? absolutely. they have _ interesting. like q and a sessions? absolutely. they have incredible i absolutely. they have incredible observations. i was in a school the other day talking about climate change and the environment and we had a debate about what the children could do to make a difference. they said maybe we need solar panels on our school route. i said why not? they said i don't know why we don't have them. maybe they cost too much —— school roof. maybe we could raise money? i could make cakes, they started writing their own terra carta and ideas and things they could do to try and convince the adults in their world to actually take action and do something positive for the long term. it’s take action and do something positive for the long term. it's a beautiful book. _ positive for the long term. it's a beautiful book. absolutely, i positive for the long term. it's a beautiful book. absolutely, it i beautiful book. absolutely, it really is, it really is. we will see what climate impact it has. thank you for seeing us. the headlines coming up injust a moment.

good morning welcome to breakfast with rachel burden and charlie stayt. our headlines today. the government takes legal action against the royal college of nursing, over its planned two day strike in england at the end of this month. dominic raab has hit out at what he calls "activist civil servants", after resigning as deputy prime

minister over bullying claims. the scammers preying on parents. more than 1,000 people were conned out of £1.3 million last year. good morning. saints send shock waves through the premier league title race. the bottom club, stunned the leaders arsenal, who stumbled again before salvaging a draw with two goals in the last two minutes. and i'm in wrexham, city on tenterhooks as they wait to see whether the football club will be voted back into the football league after being rescued by two hollywood superstars. you couldn't make this stuff up! what have you got to say to the lads? cheering and in weather, generally more cloud around this weekend, a little bit of rain at times too, and it's going to feel colder. i'll have all the details right here on breakfast.

good morning. it's saturday april 22nd. our main story — the health secretary has said he is pursuing legal action over the lawfulness of the next strike by nhs nurses in england. steve barclay said he was responding to concerns from nhs employers, who believe the planned walkout at the end of the month would be unlawful. simonjones reports. the bitter dispute between nurses and the government is now heading to the courts. members of the royal college of nursing in england have already walked out twice this year, and a new strike is planned for the end of this month. but there are questions now about whether it's legal. the 48—hour strike is due to begin at 8pm on 30th april at affected hospitals. it's scheduled to end at 8pm on 2nd may, but nhs employers claim the six—month mandate to strike actually expires at midnight on ist may as they believe the strike ballot closed at midday on 2nd november. for the first time, the next strike

action by the rcn is set to involve nursing staff from emergency departments, intensive care units and those working in cancer care. it's an escalation of the industrial action after members of the union voted last week to reject a 5% pay increase accompanied by a one—off payment. in a statement, the health and social care secretary steve barclay said, "i have regretfully provided notice of my intent to pursue legal action, to ask the courts to declare the royal college of nursing's upcoming strike action to be unlawful. the government firmly believes in the right to strike, but it is vital that any industrial action is lawful and i have no choice but to take action." he said it would seek to protect nurses who could otherwise be asked to take part in unlawful activity, which could put their professional registration at risk. but the rcn has hit back. it's confident its action is lawful based on case law. let the courts decide what is happening here. what is really happening with this government? this is a highly unexpected and desperate move

by this government. and i would ask them to put themselves in the position of the nurses who are calling for better pay, for a better deal for themselves, better standard of living, and to help improve the nhs. and what does the government do? it slaps them down with a court order. junior doctors, too, are considering further strike action. they walked out last week seeking a 35% pay increase. the government says that's unreasonable. it's clear the nhs and patients face a turbulent time ahead. simon jones, bbc news. a man has been charged with offences under the official secrets act following an investigation by the met�*s counter terrorism command. thomas newsome, who's 36 and a serving member of the uk's armed forces, was initially arrested and detained on tuesday. he has been remanded in police custody and is due to appear at westminster magistrates' court later today. dominic raab has accused "activist

civil servants" of trying to block the work of government, following his resignation over bullying claims. the former deputy prime minister stood down yesterday after a report found he'd acted in an "intimidating and aggressive" manner towards some staff. our political correspondent jonathan blake reports. from deputy prime minister to backbench mp, dominic raab resigned from government yesterday, but defended his behaviour and argued against the findings of an inquiry that upheld some of the bullying claims against him. is this a stitch up? look, i wouldn't describe it that way. i resigned from cabinet today because i said i would if there was any adverse finding from this inquiry. and i'm true to my word, politicians should be. but i do think it sets a very dangerous precedent. if you look at the tolley report, it dismissed almost all of the claims against me. it found i'd never once in four and a half years lost my temper, sworn, shouted, anything of that nature. but it also highlighted maybe two

or three instances where i'd been, what they described as unintentionally abrasive. the report by the senior lawyer adam tolley kc found mr raab acted in a way which was intimidating in the sense of unreasonably and persistently aggressive conduct. it also involved an abuse or misuse of power in a way that undermines or humiliates, adding that he went further than was necessary or appropriate in delivering critical feedback and was insulting. mr tolley also said mr raab was abrasive and described work done for him as utterly useless and woeful, a description reasonably understood as insulting personal criticism. what you've got is the risk here of a very small minority of very activist civil servants with the passive aggressive culture of the civil service who don't like some of the reforms,

whether it's brexit, whether it's parole reform, whether it's human rights reform, effectively trying to block government. that's not on. that's not democratic. the prime minister said he accepted dominic raab's resignation with sadness, but there was no sign of rishi sunak in public yesterday as labour accused him of weakness. well, the big question for the prime minister is why he was so weak to appoint him in the first place. the second question for the prime minister is why he didn't sack him. and now it's left to dominic raab to resign. replacing dominic raab asjustice secretary is this man, alex chalk and oliver dowden steps into the role of deputy prime minister as his predecessor's departure sparks a debate about how things get done in government. dominic raab is the third cabinet minister under rishi sunak to resign over their conduct. the prime minister, who pledged integrity, professionalism and accountability in government, won't want to lose any more. jonathan blake, bbc news.

let's speak with our political correspondent helen catt. it is one of those mornings, it depends who you ask about what they think today. rival parties will say let's talk about rishi sunak and what he knew and others will say let's focus on how ministers work with civil servants. yes, there is discussion going on about how this relates to workplace culture in places outside of the civil service too, so lots of different things being discussed here. that point about the civil service, though, is really central to this, and those particular claims dominic raab has made about the idea that there are activists civil servants actively working to obstruct government policy, that is incredibly explosive and that's because the way the government works is you have ministers who set policy on the political direction, you have civil servants whose job it is to develop it and make it work, and an absolutely key, central part of that

is that civil servants are impartial and they serve the government of the day whatever or whoever that might be. that is such an important principle that it is written into the civil service code. so here you've got someone who is a senior minister in effect questioning whether that is happening. that is quite an accusation, particularly as of course civil servants can't really argue back in public, and certainly their union has described this as a conspiracy theory that they say will be damaging. we have seenin they say will be damaging. we have seen in recent years tensions spill out publicly between ministers and the civil service. i think this is only likely to inflame that. helen, thank ou only likely to inflame that. helen, thank you very — only likely to inflame that. helen, thank you very much. _ the cbi has suspended key activities untiljune, after allegations of rape and sexual assault saw several firms quit the business group. dozens of companies including john lewis, bmw and aviva either left or paused their membership after two women came forward with allegations of rape. the cbi said it "shares the shock and revulsion" at the alleged events. the family of stephen lawrence will hold a memorial service

in trafalgar square this morning to mark the 30th anniversary of his death. stephen was just 18 when he killed by a gang in a racist attack at a bus stop in eltham, in south—east london. the metropolitan police commissioner sir mark rowley admitted on friday that the force "did not dig deep enough" to root out racism since mr lawrence's murder in 1993. the family of the late former england football captain, bobby moore, say the red shirt in which he won the 1966 world cup has gone missing. in an interview with the daily mail, they revealed they last saw the top in the attic of the family home in essex in the late 1980s — and have no idea how it disappeared. more recently, the football association told them the shirt was now in the hands of an anonymous private buyer. bobby moore's first wife, tina moore, told the mail she wanted it returned.

not surprisingly! the search for the famous red strip. we wish them luck with that. it is always difficult, i don't have anything quite so valuable in my attic but when you go to delve for something you after you can be gone for weeks! like what? an old teddy bear... my old copies of the nme, carefully stored away gathering dust. matt, do you keep anything particularly? nothing especially, just stuff i've not been bothered to throw away! i was hoping you add one of those old velcro whether symbols from your old velcro whether symbols from your old days in the attic. i've got a few old stickers and badges but not the old... i'm not that old, rachel! you know, there is more to matt than just the weather. it is not all that

happens in his life. he has more to him. i kind of think he has weather pyjamas. that is one for my birthday list coming up! it has been a foggy start for some, some fog are starting to clear, misty and murky in some areas but we have a lot of cloud for others whilst there is sunshine to the north and a slice of sunshine across the central swathe of england and wales, to the south cloud and outbreaks of rain just pushing in, may be pushing into the south—west of england, and a wet morning across the far north of england, southern scotland and northern ireland were the rain eases into the afternoon, not quite reaching glasgow, may be the north coasts. still some cloud around in the far north—east, the warmest conditions in the west of scotland, up to 16 celsius, not far off that in parts of central and eastern england, and a brighter day than yesterday. tonight, some areas of rain pushing northward through england and wales. rain through southern scotland and northern ireland starts to fizzle out, few

heavy showers in the far north of scotland where the wind will pick up, going to be a windy spell through sunday, gales, if not severe gales in the far north. temperatures should not be as low as some sort this morning. going into tomorrow, most of you heading towards the london area will probably be going to watch the marathon or partake and is going to be a wet one, i'm afraid to say, rain on and off, maybe dry before the race gets under way, but we will see rain spread across the south—east towards east anglia and through parts of the midlands, some lingering across parts of wales into the afternoon. the far north of england, northern ireland, southern scotland, brighter day than today, the far north of scotland much more cloud around. a few showers here and turning colder, just seven or eight celsius into the afternoon. the colder air will seep southwards as we go through sunday night and into monday where we see some showers across the hills and in the north of the uk we could see some snow mixed in and monday night into tuesday, gardeners, take note, there will be a widespread frost. a big change on

the way next week. just before i go, let me take you back to the florida coast if you mist it yesterday, yesterday just off the coast of miami, take a look at this shot taken by a tv news helicopter. this is a water coming in off the atlantic ocean. it is basically a tornado over the water. the beach here, hollywood beach, people scattering as it came on shore. the good news was as it came on sure it dissipated, but it did throw a few of the beach furniture around, just watch this chap here. you wouldn't want to be in that, knocked off his feet quite easily. luckily he got up unharmed and everything else, well, it started to fade. did you see the bike going down the street? he was fine, he was all right. it dissipated by the time it reached him. there you go, an amazing shot. isn't it! him. there you go, an amazing shot. isn't it! it him. there you go, an amazing shot. isn't it! it is fascinating watching what people do.

spying on people. carrying on as normal. it does feel like spying a bit. thank you, matt. this next story might be linked to this, we are doing the emergency alert story happening tomorrow. that is used in many countries in relation to weather events. in the us particularly with tornadoes because it happens at short notice and they need the alerts to happen rapidly and it really does save lives. thanks, matt. this is the emergency alert system which will be tested to sunday at 3pm on all mobile phones in the uk. we are going to play it for you. this is what it is going to be. siren. it is this is what it is going to be. siren. it is quite a sharp nose, you will not be able to avoid it if you have your phone is switched on and

all the settings as normal. the test alert will say: "this is a test of emergency alerts, a new uk government service that will warn you if there's a life—threatening emergency nearby." in a real emergency, it will say follow the instructions in the alert to keep yourself and others safe. this is a test. you do not need to take any action. the message will only be used if there is an immediate risk to life, such as, severe flooding, fires or extreme weather. as matt was saying. joining us now from london is alex woodman, the national fire chief lead for resilience who has been supporting the government on rolling out the alert system. why is it so important? good morning, as you said earlier this is a system that gives us as the emergency services and additional measure to get information out rapidly to the public. and as you said this is about risk to life, so we would only be using this if we were concerned that there was a risk to summary�*s life and wanted the public to take action. ., , ., life and wanted the public to take action. ., i. .,, life and wanted the public to take

action. . ,., .,, ., life and wanted the public to take action. ., i. .,, ., ., life and wanted the public to take action. ., ., ., , action. can you opt out of this service? _ action. can you opt out of this service? you _ action. can you opt out of this service? you can. _ action. can you opt out of this service? you can. i— action. can you opt out of this service? you can. i would i action. can you opt out of this service? you can. i would ask| action. can you opt out of this - service? you can. i would ask people to consider— service? you can. i would ask people to consider very _ service? you can. i would ask people to consider very carefully _ service? you can. i would ask people to consider very carefully whether i to consider very carefully whether they would or not and we are asking people not to do that. but it is quite simple to do it, you can go through the settings on your device and after a couple of clicks you can opt out of the system. the and after a couple of clicks you can opt out of the system.— opt out of the system. the reason ou feel opt out of the system. the reason you feel it — opt out of the system. the reason you feel it is _ opt out of the system. the reason you feel it is so _ opt out of the system. the reason you feel it is so important, - opt out of the system. the reason you feel it is so important, give i opt out of the system. the reason | you feel it is so important, give us some examples of the kind of circumstances in which this might be deployed. i! circumstances in which this might be delo ed. , ., circumstances in which this might be delo ed. ,, circumstances in which this might be delo ed. i. ., ., deployed. if you look at what happened — deployed. if you look at what happened last _ deployed. if you look at what happened last summer, i deployed. if you look at what happened last summer, we l deployed. if you look at what i happened last summer, we had deployed. if you look at what - happened last summer, we had over 800 wildfires across the uk, there were around 50 in one day alone and significant numbers of firefighters deployed to tackle those wildfires, and i think it was the success of our crews stopping any life being lost during that period of time, but i think this is a good scenario last summer when we could use the system to early warn people in the event of a risk to life. to early warn people in the event of a risk to life-— a risk to life. good morning, alex. i su ose a risk to life. good morning, alex. i suppose in _ a risk to life. good morning, alex. i suppose in a _ a risk to life. good morning, alex. i suppose in a way— a risk to life. good morning, alex. i suppose in a way a _ a risk to life. good morning, alex. i suppose in a way a lot _ a risk to life. good morning, alex. i suppose in a way a lot of - a risk to life. good morning, alex. i suppose in a way a lot of these i i suppose in a way a lot of these events you might be talking about are necessarily localised to a degree, aren't they? is it a uk wide system only? or can it be within

certain areas?— certain areas? this is one of the real benefits _ certain areas? this is one of the real benefits of _ certain areas? this is one of the real benefits of the _ certain areas? this is one of the real benefits of the system, i certain areas? this is one of the real benefits of the system, we | certain areas? this is one of the i real benefits of the system, we can either use it on a national level like you will see tomorrow during the test, or we can target this down to a water level and that's the benefit of the cell broadcast technology over something like text message that we have this really targeted function and the speed at which we can get the information out. ., . , out. you said cell broadcast, you are a fire — out. you said cell broadcast, you are a fire chief, _ out. you said cell broadcast, you are a fire chief, not _ out. you said cell broadcast, you are a fire chief, not a _ out. you said cell broadcast, you are a fire chief, not a technical i are a fire chief, not a technical expert. but how is it working? what are the mechanics behind it? the technology _ are the mechanics behind it? tue: technology itself are the mechanics behind it? t'ta: technology itself from are the mechanics behind it? tta: technology itself from the are the mechanics behind it? t'ta: technology itself from the phone, there is something built into devices, this is not something the government or emergency services have added. cell broadcast is something that comes out through the massed directory and it targets a geographic area. if we were to send things through a text message, sometimes it can take up to a couple of days to be received if you send them in that level of bulk. but with this system you can come through and around 4—10 seconds of when we send

the message out. t around 4-10 seconds of when we send the message out-— the message out. i guess the sound has been carefully _ the message out. i guess the sound has been carefully designed - the message out. i guess the sound has been carefully designed so i the message out. i guess the sound has been carefully designed so it. has been carefully designed so it sounds nothing like anything else you might have on your phone. it is. you might have on your phone. it is. it is a unique — you might have on your phone. it is. it is a unique sound _ you might have on your phone. it is. it is a unique sound and _ you might have on your phone. it 3 it is a unique sound and it's about drawing your attention to it. it will override if you are on silent mode and it is there so that we can get a message out to you rapidly if we feel there is a risk to life. yes, it is unique, but designed specifically so that it draws people's attention to it. if specifically so that it draws people's attention to it. if you are talkin: to people's attention to it. if you are talking to somebody _ people's attention to it. if you are talking to somebody on _ people's attention to it. if you are talking to somebody on the - people's attention to it. if you are l talking to somebody on the phone, whether you are faced timing or whatever it might be the sound will still come through? yes. whatever it might be the sound will still come through?— still come through? yes, it will alert ou still come through? yes, it will alert you when _ still come through? yes, it will alert you when we _ still come through? yes, it will alert you when we send - still come through? yes, it will alert you when we send it - still come through? yes, it will alert you when we send it out. | still come through? yes, it will - alert you when we send it out. there are times when if your phone is in aeroplane mode or it is switched off that it will not come through and if you have turned it off in the settings it will not come through to you. but this is about an additional measure available to us. this is not the only measure that we would take, it doesn't take anything away from our normal operational response. thank you very much, alex woodman, national fire thank you very much, alex woodman, nationalfire chief lead

thank you very much, alex woodman, national fire chief lead for resilience, this is 3pm on sunday afternoon. it's a mystery that remains unsolved nearly 80 years later — who was the woman whose remains were found inside a tree in hagley, in worcestershire? a new bbc sounds podcast series — called the body in the tree — hopes to shed some light. presenter nicola goodwin tells us more. it was here 80 years ago this week four teenagers were looking for birds' eggs, but what they found were the skeletal remains of a woman. the tree is long gone. it was cut down in the 1940s, but bob farmer told his story to the bbc�*s inside out west midlands 60 years later. just the head was on the surface and there was a bone protruding from the earth. and there was... i think you could see a shoe or a pair of shoes. the woman was thought to be aged between 25 and 40, and she was very short, less than five foot tall. the police investigations led nowhere, but local people believed that her death could be linked to witchcraft

or that she was a spy who'd landed in the midlands by parachute. graffiti first appeared in191i5 and it's been appearing ever since. bob pooler spent 30 years as a police officer. he's determined to try and solve the mystery. it's very difficult to say who exactly it was. my own ideas are that it was possibly a spy who came in during the war and and she was found to be surplus to requirements and was murdered. drjohn sandford is a forensic psychiatrist. in our new series, the body in the tree, he uses modern science to look at the original case files. it's only a small group of people who can be cold and calculated i enough to dispose of a body. and it's very hard - to dispose of a body. so, what's fascinating in this case is the way that the body- has been concealed. dna testing could show us where the woman grew up, the country she was from, but her remains have disappeared. unfortunately, the museum that they

were in when i saw saw them has been moved to a different location... well, to two different locations now. and there's no record of the skeleton at all. they were at the university of birmingham and then at the police training centre in tally ho. but after the late 1960s, nobody knows where they went. but we're determined to find them. can we finally solve the mystery of the body in the tree and give the victim a name? her name. the only thing you can do now is give the lady a decent and proper burial. joining us now from the radio worcester newsroom is the host of the new podcast series, nicola goodwin. it sounds like a fascinating story, this is something you have known about for years and have been trying to get to the bottom of. tell us a bit more about how you first came to the story? i bit more about how you first came to the sto ? . bit more about how you first came to thesto ? . ., . the story? i saw a newspaper article about 30 years _

the story? i saw a newspaper article about 30 years ago _ the story? i saw a newspaper article about 30 years ago and _ the story? i saw a newspaper article about 30 years ago and i _ the story? i saw a newspaper article about 30 years ago and i thought. about 30 years ago and i thought wow, that's an amazing story. and i actually cut it out and put it into actually cut it out and put it into a scrapbook because i wanted to be a journalist then and i thought, this is a story i'd like to investigate. it has taken me a little bit longer to get around to it than i imagine then, and about two years ago a really good friend of mine nancy billings who is about to celebrate her 100th birthday, she was talking about her time during the second world war, she had worked in munitions factories and she told me about a friend of hers named betty and how they had been a bomb which had the factory in hereford and they had the factory in hereford and they had all run out and after that she didn't see betty again. we know betty wasn't killed in the bomb but it was as if she disappeared off the face of the earth, as nancy said. that got my mind ticking. i thought, gosh, this could be linked to the body in the tree and also how many more women could have been hurt, could havejust more women could have been hurt, could have just chosen to disappear, never saw their friends and family again? you know what it is like being a journalist, two and two linked together and became ten! i linked together and became ten! i don't want to spoil anything for anyone who wants to enjoy the podcast. but how far did you get in

your investigation in working this out? i know part of the reason you are getting the story out there is to try and draw in help from all over the world to try and solve this. . �* , ~ over the world to try and solve this. ., �* , . ., over the world to try and solve this. . �*, ~ ., ., .,, this. that's right. we are almost there, as this. that's right. we are almost there. as you — this. that's right. we are almost there, as you say _ this. that's right. we are almost there, as you say we _ this. that's right. we are almost there, as you say we don't - this. that's right. we are almost there, as you say we don't want| this. that's right. we are almost l there, as you say we don't want to spoil it for anyone listening, but essentially we know where the remains of the woman that were called bella, because that's what the graffiti across the midlands has was referred to her as, we know where her remains were until about 1969-70 and where her remains were until about 1969—70 and she was at the tally—ho police training centre in birmingham and after then, well, it's a mystery, and we are desperate to try and find her remains in any of the exhibits that may have been part of the case because we have one day science to do dna testing. we think potentially somebody was a police officer or worked at tally—ho could have taken them home, or they might have taken them home, or they might have been sold at auction because backin have been sold at auction because back in that time you could sell exhibits at auction, or potentially they could have mis—filed or mis—catalogued and instead of going to the west midlands or west mercia

police they could have ended up in a police archive somewhere else. we are so, so hopeful, everything crossed, that they are there, it is just trying to find them.— crossed, that they are there, it is just trying to find them. what, for ou, is just trying to find them. what, for you. is the — just trying to find them. what, for you. is the key — just trying to find them. what, for you, is the key element _ just trying to find them. what, for you, is the key element of- just trying to find them. what, for you, is the key element of this? l just trying to find them. what, for| you, is the key element of this? is it the remains? i guess in all inquiries that would naturally be the starting point.— inquiries that would naturally be the starting point. exactly that. it is the remains _ the starting point. exactly that. it is the remains of _ the starting point. exactly that. it is the remains of her _ the starting point. exactly that. it is the remains of her and - the starting point. exactly that. it is the remains of her and any - is the remains of her and any exhibits but it is for two main reasons. wouldn't it be wonderful if we could help solve a mystery? everybody loves a mystery and we have such brilliant signs in 2023, we may be able to even take dna from a scrap of clothing or the she was left with the body. but i think also it would be wonderful if we could give her a proper burial, or if she has been laid to rest she might have been interred as what the americans call a jane been interred as what the americans call ajane dough, been interred as what the americans call a jane dough, what we have known in england as an unknown person. she may well have been buried and if she has been buried there is no marker on her grave, so

we might be able to give her headstone and properly lay her to rest. how wonderful it would be if we could find something that we could use the signs to test, and potentially find a country of origin, or even a name. across the world people have put their dna onto databases and we may be able to trace it through and find a relative of her because she may have been a mother, she was definitely a daughter and definitely a woman who would have been missed. and even though it is 80 years on it may be possible that we can let her family and friends know.— possible that we can let her family and friends know. thank you so much, nicola, and friends know. thank you so much, nicola. and — and friends know. thank you so much, nicola, and best _ and friends know. thank you so much, nicola, and best of _ and friends know. thank you so much, nicola, and best of luck— and friends know. thank you so much, nicola, and best of luck with _ and friends know. thank you so much, nicola, and best of luck with your- nicola, and best of luck with your search. really well worth listening to. you can listen to all eight episodes of the body in the tree on bbc sounds now. it is fascinating the rumours that swirled around this story when it first emerged that she was a witch or the victim of an occult ceremony, or the victim of an occult ceremony, or a spy parachuted in from nazi germany. these are the kind of stories that were doing the rounds and people from all over the world, because with these kinds of true crime podcasts you get all of these kind of amateur sleuths who get on

board and try and help you solve it, so people from all over the world are engaged in trying to work out what happened to this woman. amazing. we will see what happens. saturday morning, the time is 9.26 and that is the time when we hand over to matt in the saturday kitchen kitchen. do you know what happened this morning? rachel shared her flapjack with me. how do you feel about flapjacks? about fla pjacks? breaking news about flapjacks? breaking news indeed, is this a euphemism was mac it breaking news indeed, is this a euphemism was mac— breaking news indeed, is this a euphemism was mac it was definitely a fla - 'ack! a flapjack! such a weird direction to go, it was just a flapjack. it was a very gooey, delicious flapjack, and it was very generous of me to give him half. well done, you are. did you enjoy it, charlie? you are. did ou en'o it, charlie? , did you en'oy it, charlie? yes, i did en'o did you enjoy it, charlie? yes, i did enjoy the — did you enjoy it, charlie? yes, i did enjoy the flapjack. - did you enjoy it, charlie? yes, i did enjoy the flapjack. it - did you enjoy it, charlie? yes, i did enjoy the flapjack. it was i did you enjoy it, charlie? yes, i| did enjoy the flapjack. it wasjust did enjoy the flapjack. it was just a flapjack. are you making those sorts ofjokes on the programme this morning? we sorts of jokes on the programme this mornin: ? ~ ., ., , sorts of jokes on the programme this mornin-? ~ ., ., ,

sorts of jokes on the programme this mornina? ., ., , .,. morning? we are not but your voice was sa in: morning? we are not but your voice was saying you _ morning? we are not but your voice was saying you were _ morning? we are not but your voice was saying you were saying - morning? we are not but your voice i was saying you were saying something different. yeah, it was ok, that's what sounded like. i yeah, it was ok, that's what sounded like. . ., , ., yeah, it was ok, that's what sounded like. _, ,, ., yeah, it was ok, that's what sounded like. i. ., ., like. i could tell you more about the flapjack— like. i could tell you more about the flapjack if — like. i could tell you more about the flapjack if you _ like. i could tell you more about the flapjack if you are _ like. i could tell you more about. the flapjack if you are interested, because interestingly, matt, it was made here in the bbc kitchen in salford within the bbc, home—made right here. is salford within the bbc, home-made riaht here. , ., right here. is that right? 0k, well, that's good — right here. is that right? 0k, well, that's good to _ right here. is that right? 0k, well, that's good to know. _ right here. is that right? 0k, well, that's good to know. i'm _ right here. is that right? 0k, well, that's good to know. i'm quite - that's good to know. i'm quite surprised, there are all sorts of health and safety issues with that, i would have thought. h0. health and safety issues with that, i would have thought.— i would have thought. no, i didn't make it in — i would have thought. no, i didn't make it in the _ i would have thought. no, i didn't make it in the kitchens _ i would have thought. no, i didn't make it in the kitchens here. - i would have thought. no, i didn't| make it in the kitchens here. don't worry. this is taking a strange turn. it was a delicious flapjack and i'm glad we have solve that particular mystery! any whenl, nice talking to you, matt. ., �* ., ., i. ., matt. no, i'm going to tell you who is on the show _ matt. no, i'm going to tell you who is on the show today, _ matt. no, i'm going to tell you who is on the show today, number- matt. no, i'm going to tell you who is on the show today, number one | is on the show today, number one bestselling author adam k. i knew we would get there eventually. we are going to talk about your massive, — we are going to talk about your massive, life changing book that you wrote _ massive, life changing book that you wrote some — massive, life changing book that you wrote some time ago now. this massive, life changing book that you wrote some time ago now.—

wrote some time ago now. this is goina to wrote some time ago now. this is going to hurt- — going to hurt. you have a children's book 0ut going to hurt. you have a children's book out as well with an interesting title and well with an interesting title and we will talk more about that today. let's talk more about the food now. what is your idea of food heaven? mac and cheese, the most healthy food, _ mac and cheese, the most healthy food, obviously! find mac and cheese, the most healthy food, obviously!— mac and cheese, the most healthy food, obviously! and what about food hell? anything _ food, obviously! and what about food hell? anything like _ food, obviously! and what about food hell? anything like sweet _ food, obviously! and what about food hell? anything like sweet potatoes i hell? anything like sweet potatoes or parsnips- _ hell? anything like sweet potatoes or parsnips- any — hell? anything like sweet potatoes or parsnips. any of— hell? anything like sweet potatoes or parsnips. any of those - hell? anything like sweet potatoes or parsnips. any of those sort - hell? anything like sweet potatoes or parsnips. any of those sort of. or parsnips. any of those sort of dessert— or parsnips. any of those sort of dessert potatoes! absolutely disgusting, what is the point of that? _ disgusting, what is the point of that? 0r— disgusting, what is the point of that? 0ranything disgusting, what is the point of that? or anything sneaky like raisins— that? or anything sneaky like raisins in— that? or anything sneaky like raisins in a main course. disgusting, perverse! raisins in a main course. disuuustin , erverse! v , disgusting, perverse! 0k. let's see what else disgusting, perverse! ok. let's see what else is— disgusting, perverse! ok. let's see what else is on— disgusting, perverse! 0k. let's see what else is on the _ disgusting, perverse! 0k. let's see what else is on the menu _ disgusting, perverse! 0k. let's see what else is on the menu today. . disgusting, perverse! 0k. let's see i what else is on the menu today. how are you? what else is on the menu today. how are ou? �* ., , what else is on the menu today. how are ou? . . , ., ., what else is on the menu today. how are ou?~ . , ., ., , are you? adam is going to absolutely hate what i'm — are you? adam is going to absolutely hate what i'm about _ are you? adam is going to absolutely hate what i'm about to _ are you? adam is going to absolutely hate what i'm about to cook. - are you? adam is going to absolutely hate what i'm about to cook. i'm - hate what i'm about to cook. i'm makin: hate what i'm about to cook. making putting in a sauce, hate what i'm about to cook.“ making putting in a sauce, which is a beige _ making putting in a sauce, which is a beige and — making putting in a sauce, which is a beige and speciality, we are doing

a beige and speciality, we are doing a pork— a beige and speciality, we are doing a pork belly with those two beautiful aromatics and pickled in its own— beautiful aromatics and pickled in its own gorgeousness and a cornmeal pudding _ its own gorgeousness and a cornmeal pudding that has raisins in it. it pudding that has raisins in it. [11 is hot pudding that has raisins in it. is hot and pudding that has raisins in it. it is hot and sweet and sexy and everything _ is hot and sweet and sexy and everything all _ is hot and sweet and sexy and everything all at _ is hot and sweet and sexy and everything all at once. - is hot and sweet and sexy and everything all at once. i - is hot and sweet and sexy and . everything all at once. i promise not to— everything all at once. i promise not to sneaky _ everything all at once. i promise not to sneaky. the _ everything all at once. i promise not to sneaky-— everything all at once. i promise not to sneaky. the sneaky side of our not to sneaky. the sneaky side of your cooking- _ not to sneaky. the sneaky side of your cooking. first _ not to sneaky. the sneaky side of your cooking. first time - not to sneaky. the sneaky side of your cooking. first time on - not to sneaky. the sneaky side of your cooking. first time on the i your cooking. first time on the show, what have you got for us? irate show, what have you got for us? we are going to do a flapjack! not really — are going to do a flapjack! not really it— are going to do a flapjack! not really if we _ are going to do a flapjack! not really. if we have _ are going to do a flapjack! not really. if we have time - are going to do a flapjack! not really. if we have time we - are going to do a flapjack! not really. if we have time we will| are going to do a flapjack! not. really. if we have time we will do the flapjack— really. if we have time we will do the flapjack afterwards. - really. if we have time we will do the flapjack afterwards. we - really. if we have time we will do the flapjack afterwards. we are l the flapjack afterwards. we are going _ the flapjack afterwards. we are going to — the flapjack afterwards. we are going to use _ the flapjack afterwards. we are going to use some _ the flapjack afterwards. we are going to use some pilau - the flapjack afterwards. we are going to use some pilau rice i the flapjack afterwards. we are i going to use some pilau rice and the flapjack afterwards. we are - going to use some pilau rice and we are going _ going to use some pilau rice and we are going to— going to use some pilau rice and we are going to do— going to use some pilau rice and we are going to do a _ going to use some pilau rice and we are going to do a cauliflower- are going to do a cauliflower version _ are going to do a cauliflower version for— are going to do a cauliflower version for adam. _ are going to do a cauliflower version for adam.— are going to do a cauliflower version for adam. ~ . ., ,., , ., are going to do a cauliflower version for adam. ~ . ., ,., i. i] version for adam. what about you? i have not got — version for adam. what about you? i have not got flapjacks, _ version for adam. what about you? i have not got flapjacks, i _ version for adam. what about you? i have not got flapjacks, i have - version for adam. what about you? i have not got flapjacks, i have a - have not got flapjacks, i have a great _ have not got flapjacks, i have a great value wine, terrific beer and some _ great value wine, terrific beer and some terrific lines to celebrate st george's— some terrific lines to celebrate st george's day tomorrow. i could always— george's day tomorrow. i could always smuggle in a flapjack if you need _ always smuggle in a flap'ack if you need. ~ ., always smuggle in a flap'ack if you need. . . . always smuggle in a flap'ack if you need. ~ . ., ., , ., need. what about flap'ack and wine matches? a — need. what about flap'ack and wine matches? a sign _ need. what about flap'ack and wine matches? a sign that — need. what about flapjack and wine matches? a sign that you _ need. what about flapjack and wine matches? a sign that you could - need. what about flapjack and wine | matches? a sign that you could have a syrupy sweet madeira, sherry, tawny port, you can match a wine with anything. baked beans! i'm like

a rolodex of liquid amazement! laughter brilliant, there we go, we will see you at 10am. amazing, a sweet wine to go with my flapjack. why didn't we think about this morning? bear it mind for next time. 9:30am is the time. a text message scam targeting parents conned people out of more than £1 million last year. new figures from radio 4's moneybox programme reveal more than 1,100 people fell for scammers pretending to be the victim's son or daughter in financial trouble, before asking for money. dan whitworth has more. it might seem like a legitimate plea for help, but it's nothing of the sort. they're texts from scammers that start with, "hi, mum" or "hi, dad" before making a request for money or help, normally accompanied by a distressing story about why the cash is needed quickly. in the last year, more than 1,100 people across england, wales, and northern ireland reported being targeted by these scams. more than £1.1 million was lost

to texts targeting mums and more than £170,000 was lost to texts targeting dads — a total of more than 1.3 million. jan was one of the victims. after receiving a message she thought was from her son, asking for her to transfer money, she sent more than £3,000 to the person who contacted her. by the time she realised it wasn't him, it was too late. i was just so gutted. i was so, so, so upset that someone could do this to me because i save... i'm... i save so hard. i try so hard to save money and i watch my pennies but ijust felt so gutted that someone could do this to me. only texts reported to action fraud have been counted in the new figures, meaning the number of people affected could well be higher. a police officer who works on fraud cases just like these is warning people to be aware of the dangers. the sorts of people that will be

targeted will be parents, mums and dads with children. so, ultimately, this is about loved ones telling their parents or neighbours being informed about this sort of scam so the more people that know about it, the less chance they are likely to become victim of it. research suggests that nine in every ten people have received scam messages or calls similar to this. the advice, if you do get one, is to delete or report it straight away. and if you're tempted to transfer any money to a amloved one after receiving a text, make sure you speak to them first. dan whitworth, bbc news. that was dan whitworth there with that report. he is here and we will talk to him in a moment. we've been hearing some of your stories about text scams this morning, thank you for getting in touch. i appreciate it is not always easy to share this stuff. sharon from braintree said she'd encountered a scammer pretending to be her child: "my son asked to borrow £880 when i was "away for the weekend. i sent the money but my bank

"reversed the payment." another told us: "i was scammed out of £1,300. i thought i could spot a scam but when someone impersonated my son "all caution went out the window. "i felt stupid and so vulnerable, still do." a third person got in touch to say they fell victim to this kind of scam. they said: "i was scammed, i still feel ashamed and embarrassed. "i'm sure scammers can get into whatsapp because the chat used "the same phrases and words my son uses." that was something that came up from an earlier message saying that certain terms had been used that only those two people involved kind of knew about. nicknames, that sort of knew about. nicknames, that sort of thing. how is that happening? victims might think that that this is a numbers game. fill. victims might think that that this is a numbers game. filth. these is a numbers game. 0h. these criminals. _ is a numbers game. 0h. these criminals, sadly, are very good at what they do and are brutally efficient. if they send 10,000, 20,000 text messages or whatsapp messages, they only need one or two to hit the right person with the right nicknames, things like that.

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can claw it back possibly and as soon as you have contacted your bank, call the police, called action fraud. if bank, call the police, called action fraud. . , ., bank, call the police, called action fraud. ., i. , bank, call the police, called action fraud. ., , ., bank, call the police, called action fraud. . , . ., fraud. if anyone is asking for mone , fraud. if anyone is asking for money, fundamentally, - fraud. if anyone is asking for money, fundamentally, that| fraud. if anyone is asking for. money, fundamentally, that is a massive red alert. it money, fundamentally, that is a massive red alert.— massive red alert. it is really difficult. massive red alert. it is really difficult- i— massive red alert. it is really difficult. i know! _ massive red alert. it is really difficult. i know! if— massive red alert. it is really difficult. i know! if you - massive red alert. it is really difficult. i know! if you are i massive red alert. it is really difficult. i know! if you are a | difficult. i know! if you are a vulnerable _ difficult. i know! if you are a vulnerable person, - difficult. i know! if you are a vulnerable person, you - difficult. i know! if you are a l vulnerable person, you would probably delete it, it's a numbers game that if you are a vulnerable person, theyjust need one or two people and it is worth their while. in that sense, our viewers have been expressing this morning the shame and embarrassment but you really shouldn't feel like that.— and embarrassment but you really shouldn't feel like that. anyone can let cauaht shouldn't feel like that. anyone can get caught up _ shouldn't feel like that. anyone can get caught up in — shouldn't feel like that. anyone can get caught up in this. _ shouldn't feel like that. anyone can get caught up in this. victims - get caught up in this. victims should feel zero sense of guilt and shame. as a wider society you would think you should delete it, of course! that is not the case, these people are victims of crime and the perpetrators who do this comedy can also carry this out, they are brutal and they are ruthlessly efficient at what they do. i am sad to say they are very good at what they do. the victims are just that, victims, no

guilt, no shame, no embarrassment and they shouldn't feel that way. one way of maybe getting a second opinion could matter, couldn't it? you havejust got opinion could matter, couldn't it? you have just got this thing. whoever you are with, that friend, in that moment, say, what do you think about that? to have that thought process. that is making an assumption in itself that you have someone to reference.— assumption in itself that you have someone to reference. quite. that is im ortant someone to reference. quite. that is important because _ someone to reference. quite. that is important because anything - someone to reference. quite. that is important because anything that - important because anything that breaks the spell that these criminals will try to cast over you, anything that breaks the spell, pausing for a moment, speaking to a friend, one of the members of the audience texted in earlier someone was pretending to be their daughter but their daughter was sat next to them on holiday. anything that can break the spell is so, so important, speaking to a loved one, speak to someone. l speaking to a loved one, speak to someone. . speaking to a loved one, speak to someone. , ., ., ., someone. i wish we had time to go into who is — someone. i wish we had time to go into who is behind _ someone. i wish we had time to go into who is behind these _ someone. i wish we had time to go into who is behind these things, i someone. i wish we had time to go | into who is behind these things, the operation behind them and how you track them down rather than the victim being the ones that have to block it, we need to get to the

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quite a big day for the club. i guess the atmosphere is growing! it's brewing, bubbling along nicely, yes, indeed. they have brought out the bacon butties at the fairhaven tavern, looking after us this morning. we have bacon butties, ducky the duck, the lucky wrexham mascot for this particular pub and wrexham have those two hollywood stars, ryan and rob, who have invested millions in the club, turned around its fortune and now one game away from promotion back into the football league. one guy who has known wrexham in good times and bad is dixie mcneil, a former player and manager. what do you think about what these two actors have done for the club? everything, simle as have done for the club? everything, simple as that- _ have done for the club? everything, simple as that. it _ have done for the club? everything, simple as that. it is _ have done for the club? everything, simple as that. it is what _ have done for the club? everything, simple as that. it is what all- have done for the club? everything, simple as that. it is what all the - simple as that. it is what all the fans— simple as that. it is what all the fans have — simple as that. it is what all the fans have been waiting for four years— fans have been waiting for four years and — fans have been waiting for four years and it is nice for the club to .et years and it is nice for the club to get back— years and it is nice for the club to get back into the football league. i know— get back into the football league. i know we _ get back into the football league. i know we have two games to come but i'm going _ know we have two games to come but i'm going to— know we have two games to come but i'm going to say back into the football— i'm going to say back into the football league now. i can't see us not going _ football league now. i can't see us not going up. it is great for all the fans _

not going up. it is great for all the fans. ., , _, . the fans. lovely confidence. of course, these _ the fans. lovely confidence. of course, these two _ the fans. lovely confidence. of course, these two initially - the fans. lovely confidence. of i course, these two initially people might have thought well, a canadian and american from hollywood, it is a publicity stunt, they won't do anything but they have really worked hard for this club. the? anything but they have really worked hard for this club.— hard for this club. they have. two or three times, _ hard for this club. they have. two or three times, they _ hard for this club. they have. two or three times, they have - hard for this club. they have. two or three times, they have come i hard for this club. they have. two i or three times, they have come over from _ or three times, they have come over from the _ or three times, they have come over from the states to watch a game, etc. from the states to watch a game, etc but. — from the states to watch a game, etc. but, no, i mean, all football clubs— etc. but, no, i mean, all football clubs that— etc. but, no, i mean, all football clubs that are doing well have plenty — clubs that are doing well have plenty of money. thankfully, wrexham after all _ plenty of money. thankfully, wrexham after all this time have two owners willing _ after all this time have two owners willing to _ after all this time have two owners willing to put money forward. as i said. _ willing to put money forward. as i said. we've — willing to put money forward. as i said, we've already got gates with 10.000 _ said, we've already got gates with 10,000 people watching non—league football _ 10,000 people watching non—league football. the club can only go up. it is great — football. the club can only go up. it is great for the town. i believe that a strangely enough it is about 15 years almost to this day that the club went out of the league, isn't that right? club went out of the league, isn't that riuht? ., ., club went out of the league, isn't that right?— that right? today hopefully they will no that right? today hopefully they will go back _ that right? today hopefully they will go back up _ that right? today hopefully they will go back up again? - that right? today hopefully they will go back up again? it - that right? today hopefully they will go back up again? it did. i that right? today hopefully they will go back up again? it did. as that right? today hopefully they. will go back up again? it did. as i said. _ will go back up again? it did. as i said. we— will go back up again? it did. as i said, we never had any money. the trust _ said, we never had any money. the trust took— said, we never had any money. the trust took it — said, we never had any money. the trust took it over. i have to say they— trust took it over. i have to say they did — trust took it over. i have to say they did a _ trust took it over. i have to say they did a brilliant job of trust took it over. i have to say they did a brilliantjob of keeping they did a brilliantjob of keeping the club — they did a brilliantjob of keeping

the club going. a lot of people would — the club going. a lot of people would have thought the club would have faded away but they kept the club going. have faded away but they kept the club anoin. , ., ., two brilliant owners. they have brought brilliant players into the club and the club can go forward. dixie, thanks very much indeed. you were saying in the introduction there that fans are coming from all of the world, including america. we have an american with us. joe, you have an american with us. joe, you have come all the way from alabama and why? reed because i automatically fell in love with the team from the documentary. i even got to the point where i was getting up got to the point where i was getting up at 6am to listen to mark griffiths' amazing commentary. you make this as a documentary streaming around the world and it has put wrexham on the map. you also have another skill, you haven't blinked during this interview. you are a non—blinking specialist. during this interview. you are a non-blinking specialist.- non-blinking specialist. that's correct. undefeated _ non-blinking specialist. that's correct. undefeated at - non-blinking specialist. that's correct. undefeated at a - non-blinking specialist. that's i correct. undefeated at a staring contest! — correct. undefeated at a staring contest! get— correct. undefeated at a staring contest! get a _ correct. undefeated at a staring contest! get a mic— correct. undefeated at a staring contest! get a mic and - correct. undefeated at a staring l contest! get a mic and defeated. correct. undefeated at a staring - contest! get a mic and defeated. how lon- contest! get a mic and defeated. how long can _ contest! get a mic and defeated. how long can you — contest! get a mic and defeated. how long can you go— contest! get a mic and defeated. how long can you go without _ contest! get a mic and defeated. how long can you go without blinking? - long can you go without blinking? queen— long can you go without blinking? queen 55— long can you go without blinking? queen 55 minutes _ long can you go without blinking? queen 55 minutes is _ long can you go without blinking? queen 55 minutes is my- long can you go without blinking? queen 55 minutes is my record. i long can you go without blinking? i queen 55 minutes is my record. you challenge the wrexham squad to take you on in a stare off? we magno

response as of yet! i have even been trying to take one with an ryan reynolds but no response either! —— no response as of yet. reynolds but no response either! -- no response as of yet.— no response as of yet. wrexham is known in various _ no response as of yet. wrexham is known in various parts _ no response as of yet. wrexham is known in various parts of- no response as of yet. wrexham is known in various parts of america. j known in various parts of america. normally people associate manchester united with america but it has become popular? it united with america but it has become popular?— united with america but it has become popular? it is. hugely --oular. become popular? it is. hugely popular- l— become popular? it is. hugely popular- l have _ become popular? it is. hugely popular. i have had _ become popular? it is. hugely popular. i have had so - become popular? it is. hugely popular. i have had so many i become popular? it is. hugely| popular. i have had so many of become popular? it is. hugely- popular. i have had so many of my friends _ popular. i have had so many of my friends state—wide _ popular. i have had so many of my friends state—wide mentioning - popular. i have had so many of my| friends state—wide mentioning that they have — friends state—wide mentioning that they have seen _ friends state—wide mentioning that they have seen me _ friends state—wide mentioning that they have seen me on— friends state—wide mentioning that they have seen me on these - friends state—wide mentioning that they have seen me on these new. they have seen me on these new sources! — they have seen me on these new sources! ~ ., , they have seen me on these new sources! . ., , , ., sources! well, what is your prediction _ sources! well, what is your prediction for _ sources! well, what is your prediction for the _ sources! well, what is your| prediction for the scoreline? wrexham 4—1. prediction for the scoreline? wrexham 44.— prediction for the scoreline? wrexham 4-1. . ., . ., ., ,, wrexham 4-1. wow! what do we think of that, wrexham 4-1. wow! what do we think of that. guys? — of that, guys? applause so, 4—1, you heard it here first. there's a point down the bar for you if you are right! that's the situation here in wrexham, the game is still not kicking off for hours yet but you are all in the mood, aren't you?— aren't you? cheering studio: _ aren't you? cheering studio: can - aren't you? cheering studio: can you - aren't you? cheering studio: can you hear| aren't you? cheering i studio: can you hear us aren't you? cheering - studio: can you hear us still? aren't you? cheering _ studio: can you hear us still? i'm not sure if he can hear us. can you ask your cameramanjust not sure if he can hear us. can you ask your cameraman just to focus in onjoejust ask your cameraman just to focus in onjoe just looking ask your cameraman just to focus in onjoejust looking down ask your cameraman just to focus in

onjoe just looking down the camera for a moment? we are compelled by his eyes! look down the lens. he can do that. his eyes! look down the lens. he can do that- he's — his eyes! look down the lens. he can do that. he's not _ his eyes! look down the lens. he can do that. he's not hypnotising - his eyes! look down the lens. he can do that. he's not hypnotising people | do that. he's not hypnotising people here, this isjust staring. you didn't even blink when they all cheered! ,, , , , ., ., , cheered! studio: i spent two hours with joe on thursday _ cheered! studio: i spent two hours with joe on thursday and _ cheered! studio: i spent two hours with joe on thursday and i - cheered! studio: i spent two hours with joe on thursday and i still - withjoe on thursday and i still haven't seen him blink. in fact, it would put me at ease if he did blink just once, please, joe, to show you can blink! just once, please, joe, to show you can blink! , . ., i. ., can blink! they are asking you to blink 'ust can blink! they are asking you to blinkjust once! _ blinkjust once! applause studio: we are all breathing now! i just think his eyes must be so dry! that's a relief, isn't it? will wrexham blink? they will have seen last night what happens when teams are under pressure. everyone expects wrexham to beat borehamwood in the national play—offs. the uk hollywood town, elstree, arsenal shows what can happen when you are expected to win against southampton last night, the third time in a row they have stumbled. such drama. now attention

turns to wednesday. you couldn't really script the timing better. it's all down to wednesday now when arsenal have to win at manchester city to keep the destiny of the premier league title race in their own hands. anything less and the initiative will be with city. this, then, after arsenal had to rescue a draw at home against bottom club southampton. the leaders have now drawn their last three games, but this time had to fight back, to salvage a point in a thriller at the emirates. the saints went into a 3—1 lead. they are the bottom club but they were playing out of their skins last night. duyay caleta—sar scored. and they looked about to move off the bottom of the table, with a rare win. but martin 0degaard, and bukayo saka both scored in the last two minutes to draw level, but they couldn't find a winner. arsenal are five points ahead of manchester city, who have two games in hand, with the two sides meeting, at the etihad next wednesday, in a game that will likely be pivotal, in the title race. manchester city are chasing

the treble and are in the fa cup semifinals this weekend. they will be massive favourites against sheffield united of the championship, but city have fallen at this stage in the last three seasons while tomorrow manchester united face brighton. they are now out of the europa league. patrick geary looks ahead to a great fa cup weekend. by the time yourjourney reaches wembley, it all becomes more real. your cup run ends here one way or another — you have arrived at your destination. the original wembley was just two years old last time sheffield united lifted the cup. those who watched and won are faces from another age. but the roots are in the same place. bramall lane has been a central character in this second tier team's journey to the semifinals. against wrexham, tottenham and blackburn, it's helped give the blades their edge. that frenzy must be carried to wembley. their next task is the greatest of all, mighty manchester city. from our point of view, we're riding the crest of a wave at the minute. the position we're in in the league, the position we've put ourselves in, we can go on attack saturday and just enjoy it and look

forward to it. there's there's nothing to fear. there's nothing to be scared of. you might only get one shot at it. you might never get to play at wembley ever again. so, soak it all up, take it all in and give it everything we've got. through to haaland. .. they're faced with a team now running at warp speed. 15 games unbeaten, manchester city are hurtling towards glory. the treble is in their sights. in english men's football, something only their rivals manchester united have achieved. exhilarating, but also exhausting. we have to be sure that the people are in minimal conditions. it's not just about this game because we come from many, many, many, many, a lot of games every three days, four days, three days, four days with a lot of games. and knowing that...that if we lose, we are out. and the fatigue, mentally the fatigue always is big. for some brighton fans, manchester united in the cup takes them back to one fateful moment. and smith must score,

and he hasn't scored! had gordon smith scored in 1983, they'd have won their only major trophy. instead, united won the replay. a0 years later, and brighton's wave is rising again. in their path again manchester united, chastened by european defeat. history could be corrected or repeated. we have to love the pressure, this pressure. and we have to... to use to... to feel this pressure, no? because to play this type of game is... has to be an honour. this season, when we had bad defeats, bad performances, we bounced back. and i'm convinced i have a strong belief we can do again because we have the experience. some minds will wander a stop further down the line to the prospect of a first all—manchester final. but the lesson of semifinal history is not to think too far into the future. patrick gearey, bbc news.

brighton and manchester united on bbc one tomorrow afternoon after the london marathon maybe?— london marathon maybe? excellent, thanks. in other _ london marathon maybe? excellent, thanks. in other sporting _ london marathon maybe? excellent, thanks. in other sporting news, - london marathon maybe? excellent, thanks. in other sporting news, my. thanks. in othersporting news, my team against your team in the rugby premiership this afternoon and i bet you a flapjack that sale sharks win! i am duty bound to accept that bet! thank you! you've lost, charlie, i think! it's the london marathon tomorrow, and thousands of people will be taking part to raise money for charity. as we have already been saying. among them is emma bishop — she has a rare form of lung cancer, but the incredible mum—of—two, has undergone treatment, that's delayed the spread of the condition. she's raised more than £65,000 for the royal marsden cancer charity and is taking us on herjourney to the finish line. here's emma's story. my name is emma bishop. i am 38 years old. i am a mother of two — beatrice and edo. my cancer is incurable. last year, in april, after a long period of feeling very unwell,

i was finally diagnosed with a mutated form of lung cancer that is quite prevalent in non—smokers and particularly in women. there was a treatment that would would work to reduce the cancer and stabilise it for now. good. we'll get these little legs strong. how's the glutes feeling? good. just keep pulling your hips down, emma. a year on, having had cancer in both my lungs, in my spine, my ribs, my pelvis, and my liver, on scan, currently, there's now only a small site in my lung, but it's classed as low—grade active. give me some real weights! my grand silly idea was that i was going to run the london marathon and i thought, "well, if my professor says

"i'm going to be well enough, then i'm going to do it" to say thank you to the royal marsden hospital for everything they do. so i have been sort of training since february, but i got my final sign—off in march to be able to do it because i am having regular scans to monitor the status of the cancer. i just don't want to fail. i really want to get round and get that medal and make my family really proud of me. they are already. everybody knows that you can do it, yeah? and we also know that it's a hell of a challenge. i mean, you are pushing your body to the absolute extreme, as indeed an elite athlete is. you are doing the same because you are asking your body to do something it's never done after and still being chronically ill. so, you know, yeah, courage is the word. my children are still quite young, so it was quite difficult to explain to them. so, at the beginning, i simply said that i was resting my batteries. hello, guys! and that mummy needed to rest. and my husband was absolutely wonderful at kind of stepping up and kind of doing more

than he should have been. and i was incredibly lucky that he was able to do that. so, at the moment, we haven't really had to say a lot more, which is, again, why i'm incredibly lucky and why i'm so passionate about this, because i haven't had to have that conversation yet. i'm sure i will one day. but i asked my daughter the other day and i said, "do you remember "when mummy was so ill last year?" and she turned round and she said, "no." so, you know, there we go. and i try really hard to keep my energy for when they're around and when i need to be ready to go and on form. and so ijust manage myself in and around that as much as possible to give when i need to and step back. and, actually, to be honest, i probably should have always been doing that and never did. so, it's a real lesson. in a funny way, there's a lot of silver linings that have come out of the situation, some positivity. and i think we've adjusted routines at home into a sort of more productive, happy place.

she's done some running in the past, but nothing at all extensive. and what i've seen is so many benefits that have come out of it in terms of the relationships she's made, the support she's had from complete and utter strangers. whatever happens after this experience, i'm going to hopefully have completed the london marathon, hopefully have raised lots of money for charity, hopefully have helped other people deal with their own diagnosis, and that's something i will cherish forever. so, there are silver linings, i guess. we wish emma all the best for tomorrow. fantastic story. so many people run and so many good reasons. whatever you do, fantastic. good luck. we have been told she has already increased her total by a few thousand pounds since we played that

video early on, wonderful news, thanks to everyone supporting her. that's a big part of the london marathon, of course. but there are a lot of athletes involved for whom it is just a major sporting lot of athletes involved for whom it isjust a major sporting event. it isjust a major sporting event. it is 20 years since paula radcliffe set a women's marathon world record completing the 26.2 miles injust over two hours and 15 minutes. that record stood for 16 years and was finally broken in 2019. let's remind ourselves. cheering and here in london today, april 13th, if i could stand up i would. i'd stand up and applaud like everybody else, because you are seeing a new world record from paula radcliffe. a fantastic performance, the best yet — 2:15.26. unbelievable from paula radcliffe! and we're very pleased to say that paula radcliffejoins us now

from central london. from the finish line in central london at the mall. i know you couldn't see that clip but hopefully you could hear it. did it take you back to that moment and could you remember how it felt? l back to that moment and could you remember how it felt?— remember how it felt? i can. it doesnt remember how it felt? i can. it doesn't feel — remember how it felt? i can. it doesn't feel like _ remember how it felt? i can. it doesn't feel like 20 _ remember how it felt? i can. it doesn't feel like 20 years - remember how it felt? i can. it doesn't feel like 20 years ago i remember how it felt? i can. it | doesn't feel like 20 years ago to me! i know the colours have changed here a little bit. time has moved on and a lot has happened since then but those memories are still very, very fresh and very special to me. just reminded me again how lucky i am to have been able to take part in am to have been able to take part in a race like the london marathon. to finish iconic play here in front of buckingham palace. and all of those memories that i stored up at the time often come back when i hear those words. from steve. you were there as a — those words. from steve. you were there as a full-time _ those words. from steve. you were there as a full-time athlete, - those words. from steve. you were there as a full-time athlete, of - there as a full—time athlete, of course, but he will understand the emotional investment that all these amateur runners will have, who are getting ready to line up tomorrow

morning. getting ready to line up tomorrow morninu. ~ , , ., getting ready to line up tomorrow mornine. n, , ., , getting ready to line up tomorrow morninu. ~ , ., , , morning. absolutely. that is why we sa there's morning. absolutely. that is why we say there's nothing _ morning. absolutely. that is why we say there's nothing quite _ morning. absolutely. that is why we say there's nothing quite like - morning. absolutely. that is why we say there's nothing quite like the i say there's nothing quite like the london marathon in the way that it brings runners together from all over the world. they spend a lot of time getting ready for it. it's an inspiring moment and inspiring introduction for running for so many. it was for me back in 1985. i came down to watch my dad take part and then i think it was the mars london marathon and christian ingle sun was setting a record and i knew that was the sport i wanted to do, i wanted to be a part of the buzz and atmosphere that will carry people through. people will have put a lot of preparation in, i won't lie, but they will be tough points in the race for them tomorrow but they will get through those because of the crowd, because of the atmosphere and because of the people around them within the race, as well. and all of those reasons why they are running. paula, charlie in the studio here. on the theme of supporters, family members, friends and whatever, who try and... it is quite hard to know

where to go, isn't it? because you don't know how fast people are going to run, you don't know where to be on the route. make sure they hear you when they come past. there are quite a few things to consider to make sure they feel supported. there are. make sure they feel supported. there are- believe — make sure they feel supported. there are. believe me, _ make sure they feel supported. there are. believe me, it _ make sure they feel supported. there are. believe me, it is _ make sure they feel supported. there are. believe me, it is a _ make sure they feel supported. there are. believe me, it is a lot— make sure they feel supported. life are. believe me, it is a lot easier than in 1985 when there were no mobile phones! but you just need to make yourself visible. and keep your eyes peeled. runners, put your name on the front of your vest, it is a great thing to do and will get you a lot of support. carry something bright so people can see where you are. if you are in the crowd, a big banner always helps in making sure that you use the tracking system and you get out there and encourage all of the runners. scream loudly, everybody will take in that support. i remember someone saying, as you said, put your name on very clearly had people who don't know you will just shout out your name as you go past to give you that it'll lift. yeah. and it can really help. if you are going through a difficult spot,

it can really, really help just to hear your name called out. and all of the cheering squad, they will not be a choir point along this route, so if you have your name on your vest, if you have got fresh in your mind the reasons why you are doing it, you will get to this finish line and there is no better moment than that moment of crossing the finish line and knowing that you have achieved what you set out to do and you have been part of something special. it will be history being set tomorrow. they are expecting over a5,000 finishes. shell set tomorrow. they are expecting over 45,000 finishes.— over 45,000 finishes. all are, briefl , over 45,000 finishes. all are, briefly. at _ over 45,000 finishes. all are, briefly, at the _ over 45,000 finishes. all are, briefly, at the front _ over 45,000 finishes. all are, briefly, at the front of - over 45,000 finishes. all are, briefly, at the front of the - over 45,000 finishes. all are, i briefly, at the front of the race, there are some really top quality runners involved tomorrow. == runners involved tomorrow. -- finishers- _ runners involved tomorrow. -- finishers. yeah. on both sides, there are extremely strong field. on there are extremely strong field. on the women's side we have olympic champions over shorter distances making a debut at the olympic champion here bracing. bridget r , the current world record holder, the defending champion. we have the world record holder over the 1500

metres racing here. that isjust to name some of them and i will have missed some of them off. it will be an extremely exciting race and on the men's side as well.— an extremely exciting race and on the men's side as well. thank you so much! you — the men's side as well. thank you so much! you have _ the men's side as well. thank you so much! you have set _ the men's side as well. thank you so much! you have set it _ the men's side as well. thank you so much! you have set it up _ the men's side as well. thank you so much! you have set it up perfectly i much! you have set it up perfectly for us. we will enjoy watching the coverage tomorrow morning from 8:30am here on bbc one. good luck to all of those who are taking part. that's all from breakfast this morning. we'll be back at six tomorrow. goodbye.

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