them but that does still need bubbly hundreds of british people in a war—torn country with little prospect of the british government being able to get them out. in prospect of the british government being able to get them out. in terms of caettin being able to get them out. in terms of getting the _ being able to get them out. in terms of getting the british _ being able to get them out. in terms of getting the british citizens - being able to get them out. in terms of getting the british citizens out, i of getting the british citizens out, because i have about 30 seconds, whether they going to get the information of the diplomatic staff have left the country? {iii information of the diplomatic staff have left the country?— have left the country? of course, that makes _ have left the country? of course, that makes a _ have left the country? of course, that makes a much _ have left the country? of course, that makes a much more - have left the country? of course, | that makes a much more difficult. there is no hands—on diplomatic presence in sudan any longer. but, of course, there is access to internet to an extent. i understand that the internet has failed quite significantly in sudan at the moment anyway so it will make it much more difficult but the internet is pretty much their only source of information in an extremely chaotic situation. they cannot rely on having any contact with government of sudan itself. the having any contact with government of sudan itself.— of sudan itself. the panel richard kem - ,

of sudan itself. the panel richard kemp. thank _ of sudan itself. the panel richard kemp. thank you _ of sudan itself. the panel richard kemp, thank you so _ of sudan itself. the panel richard kemp, thank you so much - of sudan itself. the panel richard kemp, thank you so much for- of sudan itself. the panel richard | kemp, thank you so much for your insight on bbc news just met colonel richard kemp. we are going to continue the story. so many developments. british diplomats have been evacuated from sudan. more coming up shortly. this is bbc news. so, let's continue their corresponding caroline hawley, who can us more detail and more context. caroline, i would just like to pose and remind viewers if they are just joining us what has taken place. —— to pause. 0bviously, joining us what has taken place. —— to pause. obviously, a lot more people will now be thinking if our diplomatic staff detail have been evacuated from a foreign country something has gone very wrong, so let's go back to the beginning. why has this taken place? it is because the situation on the ground has become so unstable. the fighting a bloody power struggle between two generals, has trapped

people, sudanese people and british nationals. what the foreign office has been saying and the foreign secretary has been saying is that british diplomats were no longer able to discharge their duties in the country so they have now been evacuated in an operation we have been told was rapid, complex and was conducted. it evolved, according to the ministry of defence, 1200 military personnel from the raf and navy. we are not been given exact details of the evacuation. we understand it didn't take place on the military airport in khartoum, the military airport in khartoum, the civilian effort, sorry. that is not any fit state but from an airfield north of khartoum. we do not know the numbers, we know it is diplomats and their families. we believe the numbers to be in the tens rather than anything else. it

leaves british nationals who are still stuck in sudan trapped by fighting and getting increasingly anxious, incredibly frustrated and some of them saying they feel abandoned. another thing to add is the foreign office said it is continuing to run a 2k slasher seven crisis response to support british nationals but there is frustration amongst british nationals who are there. they said they haven't been contacted by foreign office officials, they say other nationals have been contacted by the government from other countries. there is a sense of being abandoned. there is a sense of being abandoned. the diplomats we are told are being taken, orwill the diplomats we are told are being taken, or will be operating from regional countries. we have not been given much more detail, with the idea that from their britain will be able to project our diplomatic support back into sudan. it seems,

at the moment, the solution for british nationals, as far as the government here is concerned is the government here is concerned is the government and diplomats are going to push for a ceasefire and enter this bloody power struggle and that is the hook for the british nationals who are still stuck in sudan. ~ ., ., ., ., . ., sudan. we heard from colonel richard cam ed and sudan. we heard from colonel richard camped and he — sudan. we heard from colonel richard camped and he mentioned _ sudan. we heard from colonel richard camped and he mentioned cobra - sudan. we heard from colonel richard | camped and he mentioned cobra would have been, in his time, part of an evacuation of diplomatic staff or possibly also british civilians from a foreign country. do we know if there was a cobra meeting here in there was a cobra meeting here in the uk? we there was a cobra meeting here in the uk? ~ ~ ., , there was a cobra meeting here in the uk? ~ ~ ., y a, there was a cobra meeting here in the uk? ~ ~ ., , a, a, the uk? we know they have met and there have been _ the uk? we know they have met and there have been intensive _ there have been intensive discussions within government, but also between the british government and allies, we know for example the foreign secretary james cleverley was speaking to regional counterparts, including the foreign

minister of djibouti, which was mentioned by richard kemp. there will be a lot of coordination between allies and british departments. interesting both the defence secretary and james cleverley came out within about half an hour of each other to give statements to the media talking about this operation which has been described as very difficult but successful. huge questions for the british nationals left behind on what they are going to do now. they have been told to stay put and stay indoors, and to register with the foreign office. when i spoke to the foreign office. when i spoke to the foreign office. when i spoke to the foreign office yesterday i wasn't able to get any sense of how many british nationals are thought to be in sudan and they were unwilling to tell me how many had registered with the foreign office. you tell me how many had registered with the foreign office.— the foreign office. you brought up james cleverley, _ the foreign office. you brought up james cleverley, i _ the foreign office. you brought up james cleverley, i wonder - the foreign office. you brought up james cleverley, i wonder if - the foreign office. you brought up james cleverley, i wonder if we . james cleverley, i wonder if we could play some of what he said

earlier for our viewers. this could play some of what he said earlierfor our viewers. this is the foreign secretary james cleverley making a statement, revealing some of the details about the evacuation of the details about the evacuation of the details about the evacuation of the british embassy. fill" of the british embassy. our involvement _ of the british embassy. our involvement is _ of the british embassy. oi" involvement is limited to trying to engage for the safety of our british nationals but ultimately what we want is a piece to return. that was originally a peace programme where two factions, the sudan armed forces and another military faction were working towards integration. that broke down and that is what caused the conflict. we both urge those parties to get back to the talks and peace. sudan was on the right path and i think we need to continue to support that in whatever way we can and i know the un and international community will be doing their best. i apologised, i community will be doing their best. iapologised, i mentioned community will be doing their best. i apologised, i mentioned we would be hearing from james cleverley but ben wallace did also speak. we will bring you the foreign secretary james cleverley�*s words any moment

but interestingly i still have caroline hawley with me. the british defence secretary they're saying and talking about the country being on the path to peace before this broke out, and speaking earlier the foreign secretary james cleverley also mentioned and talked about trying to get back to peace. he did say the british government was working around the clock to broker international support and the bloodshed in sudan. why is it in british interests that piece is brokered in sudan, why should the uk care? , , ., , brokered in sudan, why should the uk care? , , ., ., care? firstly the uk has nationals there. care? firstly the uk has nationals there- don't _ care? firstly the uk has nationals there. don't forget _ care? firstly the uk has nationals there. don't forget britain - care? firstly the uk has nationals there. don't forget britain had . care? firstly the uk has nationals there. don't forget britain had a i there. don't forget britain had a long history in sudan, ruled it at one point and there are significant interests of all kinds but i think the bigger point is it is in the international interest that this

conflict is resolved before it draws in any more actors, international actors. james cleverley has said the safety and protection of british citizens is the uk's top priority, but what he is not saying is what exactly is going to be done for them now. clearly it is a british and international interest, and international interest, and international partners are working together. it is notjust britain but is now temporarily suspending its operations in sudan, it is also canada and the us. the solution, certainly for the sudanese who are suffering terribly at the moment, and forforeign suffering terribly at the moment, and for foreign nationals stuck there, is it is to firstly broker some kind of ceasefire and then something wider to stop the power struggle that may be extraordinarily complex. struggle that may be extraordinarily comlex. ~

complex. indeed it well. we will hear a little _ complex. indeed it well. we will hear a little bit _ complex. indeed it well. we will hear a little bit more _ complex. indeed it well. we will hear a little bit more about - complex. indeed it well. we willj hear a little bit more about what has been attempted so far from our correspondent in nairobi. first off, i would like to play the foreign secretary james cleverley making a statement revealing some more details about the evacuation of british diplomatic staff. in response to escalating violence in khartoum and because of specific threats and violence directed towards diplomats in khartoum we have taken the decision to temporarily close the british embassy in khartoum to evacuate the british diplomats and their dependents and relocate our diplomatic functions into a nearby diplomatic post. we continue to work directly and through our international partners to call for a ceasefire and an end to this violence.

the safety and protection of british nationals in sudan remains a priority for us, a top priority for us, and we will discharge that duty through our embassies based in the area in close coordination with our international friends and partners. that was the foreign secretary james cleverly making that statement a short time ago. and future plans to broker peace with allies who have been impacted by this growing conflict in sudan. let's return to those attempts, how much mediation, when we talk about mediation, there have been attempts to try and pulse the fighting between these two warring factions.

what has taken place so far and why has it failed?— has it failed? indeed there has been a lot of pressure _ has it failed? indeed there has been a lot of pressure being _ has it failed? indeed there has been a lot of pressure being mounted - has it failed? indeed there has been a lot of pressure being mounted on| a lot of pressure being mounted on the two generals, both abdel fattah al—burhan and hemedti. there has been pressure from the uk, us, japan, saudi arabia, so many countries regionally, kenya, uganda, south africa, they have been pushing the two generals to come to the table. we have been having a lot of push coming from organisations like the african union or the united nations. about when the fighting broke out, two days later ego was... the president of kenya. but so far they have not been able to go in because of how tense the situation is in that, so far no ceasefire has

been able to hold. the main airport, where other planes are supposed to land, is not operating after this —— up land, is not operating after this —— up to this moment. there has been a lot of push and calls and personal phone calls, including from key people like the us secretary of state going out to both general hemedti and abdel fattah al—burhan. so far none of this has borne any fruits. it so far none of this has borne any fruits. , ., .., so far none of this has borne any fruits. , ., _, , , ., fruits. if you could 'ust explain who they _ fruits. if you could 'ust explain who they are and _ fruits. if you could just explain who they are and why - fruits. if you could just explain who they are and why they - fruits. if you could just explain who they are and why they are fruits. if you could just explain - who they are and why they are part of the mediation attempts. it is who they are and why they are part of the mediation attempts. it is the interim governmental— of the mediation attempts. it is the interim governmental authority - of the mediation attempts. it is the interim governmental authority on | interim governmental authority on the development in eastern africa and it looks at countries, including somalia, eritrea, sudan and the development aspect, the correlation aspect of these countries. it is a

great concern when you know it country in one of its regions, looks into its affairs and goes into the conflict of or because there are a lot of ways it goes behind and the burden falls on the regions to be able to be at the economic cost of bringing this country up and sheltering its citizen from lack of food, a lack of economic opportunities and all these things that come as a cost of conflict and war. ~ , ., that come as a cost of conflict and war. ~ i. ., ., ~ ., that come as a cost of conflict and war. ~ i., ., ., 4' ., ,., that come as a cost of conflict and war. ~ i. ., ., ~ ., ,., ., that come as a cost of conflict and war. ~ ., ., , war. when you look at some of its neighbours. _ war. when you look at some of its neighbours, there _ war. when you look at some of its neighbours, there are _ war. when you look at some of its neighbours, there are countries i war. when you look at some of its l neighbours, there are countries that are dealing with its own challenges, humanitarian, climate change, poverty. i know chad closed its borders very early on once the fighting started. explain to us how much pressure there is from sudan's

neighbours that this is resolved and they do not want to pick up the burden of what is taking place. indeed, sudan has a region and then the whole of africa have, if you look at all these countries, they have climate change, conflict, cost of living and they are all making a big impact on these countries. they are struggling themselves, but that aside there is one thing that is very key. in such conflicts, and ethnic militias come out of such conflicts, then we are looking at a security situation. with islamism coming out in this region and being a key burden for the region, it is also a concern that with the rise of ethnic militias and groupings coming out of this fighting, we are going to see an increase in islamism. a lot of things going into these, on

the geographical position of sudan today. we the geographical position of sudan toda . ~ , ., ., today. we will be that therefor enouuh, today. we will be that therefor enough, thank _ today. we will be that therefor enough, thank you _ today. we will be that therefor enough, thank you very - today. we will be that therefor enough, thank you very much l today. we will be that therefor - enough, thank you very much indeed. —— we will leave it there for now. i am joined by robert fox who is the defence editor at the evening standard. i know you have been following events very closely, especially british dramatic moves. what do you make of the latest developments today, in terms of the diplomatic evacuations.— diplomatic evacuations. there have been clarification _ diplomatic evacuations. there have been clarification today _ diplomatic evacuations. there have been clarification today after - diplomatic evacuations. there have been clarification today after some | been clarification today after some kind of model and the defence secretary in the uk, ben wallace, has advanced what is a big operation involving 1200 british military personnel getting out british

diplomatic staff and their dependents. there had been some criticism because the americans and canadians had been moving forward, and there had been quite a nation with them, but this leaves confusion about a british passport holder or those who can claim protection for their family as british citizens, whether they are dual citizens or not. they are still very much left in the lurch because the latest instructions have been by them to stay—at—home and go into or undercover. stay-at-home and go into or undercover.— stay-at-home and go into or undercover. ., ., , ., ., , undercover. for many, that would be confusin: , undercover. for many, that would be confusing, especially _ undercover. for many, that would be confusing, especially if _ undercover. for many, that would be confusing, especially if there - undercover. for many, that would be confusing, especially if there are - confusing, especially if there are street battles that are taking place. what information are you receiving in terms of the safety within khartoum, because that is where much of the fighting is taking place? it where much of the fighting is taking lace? , , where much of the fighting is taking . lace? , , , ., where much of the fighting is taking lace? , , ., place? it is very unsafe and as you sa , place? it is very unsafe and as you say. peeple _ place? it is very unsafe and as you say. peeple are —

place? it is very unsafe and as you say, people are trying _ place? it is very unsafe and as you say, people are trying to _ place? it is very unsafe and as you say, people are trying to get - place? it is very unsafe and as you say, people are trying to get out i place? it is very unsafe and as you | say, people are trying to get out of what will be a very hazardous journey. they seem to be heading north and i think it is optimistic to say they can make it to the border within a day or a day and a half, because as far as one can see just looking at the map, by that i mean the political military map, a lot of these points on the route north could be under threat, especially from whether you see them as insurgents or not, but from the rapid force militia, the opposing militia to the sudanese armed forces, i am sorry to say i am getting a distinct impression of having a lot of the difficulties and troubles that we saw two years ago with the very scrambled and, in some ways, quite muddled british planning and operation to extract from afghanistan in august 2021. you are

concerned it — afghanistan in august 2021. you are concerned it is _ afghanistan in august 2021. you are concerned it is going _ afghanistan in august 2021. you are concerned it is going to _ afghanistan in august 2021. you are concerned it is going to be - afghanistan in august 2021. you are concerned it is going to be another. concerned it is going to be another repeat of afghanistan? h0. concerned it is going to be another repeat of afghanistan? no, because as our repeat of afghanistan? no, because as your previous _ repeat of afghanistan? no, because as your previous speaker _ repeat of afghanistan? no, because as your previous speaker said - repeat of afghanistan? no, because as your previous speaker said very l as your previous speaker said very eloquently, there are so many different ingredients in this, but the other thing which she didn't mention, which i fear you read from the very close to the grand correspondence, not only from the bbc where you do have a good footprint in the region, but the economist, as your previous correspondent was saying, this is a terrible cocktail of social breakdown, of military is, as well as malicious, with extensive ethnic religious and business interest, and this is being riven and catalysed by a thing of which you hear so little in british planning and military and geopolitical thinking, climate change. climate change really did

have a big role in the catalysing, the taliban advance in afghanistan in 2021, and that is what we are seeing with the distress and a people to population in this most affected part of africa. i people to population in this most affected part of africa.— affected part of africa. i really want to get — affected part of africa. i really want to get this _ affected part of africa. i really want to get this next - affected part of africa. i really want to get this next question j affected part of africa. i really i want to get this next question in and we are running out of time. a toxic cocktail, he said. is there a place forforeign toxic cocktail, he said. is there a place for foreign countries, international allies, to be part of this brokering of peace. should they be involved? i this brokering of peace. should they be involved?— be involved? i think they will have to be because _ be involved? i think they will have to be because one _ be involved? i think they will have to be because one of— be involved? i think they will have to be because one of the - be involved? i think they will have j to be because one of the sponsors be involved? i think they will have i to be because one of the sponsors on one side is russia and we are hearing the militias from libya coming in on one side. i am sorry, you cannot take the international out of this crisis. qm. you cannot take the international out of this crisis.— out of this crisis. ok, thank you very much _ out of this crisis. ok, thank you very much indeed. _ out of this crisis. ok, thank you very much indeed. this - out of this crisis. ok, thank you very much indeed. this is - out of this crisis. ok, thank you very much indeed. this is bbc. out of this crisis. ok, thank you - very much indeed. this is bbc news, we are now going to cross to my

colleague who is covering the uk's emergency alert that will be taking place for the first time today. this is bbc news. hello, if you havejust tuned into bbc news, we are covering a boring story of the emergency alert text which will be hitting smartphones across the uk at three o'clock at the top of the hour. at 3 o'clock the government will be testing a new emergency alert system, which the government says will be used to warn people about serious risks that could threaten lives. we have got reporters to gauge reaction why this is necessary now. we are joined reaction why this is necessary now. we arejoined by reaction why this is necessary now. we are joined by alistair coleman who can tell us more about what people have been saying online about the alert. good to see you. this is getting quite a bit of attention.— bit of attention. yes, it is and there are _

bit of attention. yes, it is and there are people _ bit of attention. yes, it is and there are people spreading i there are people spreading disinformation and fake news about the alert as it is coming up. what the alert as it is coming up. what is the disinformation? _ the alert as it is coming up. what is the disinformation? what - the alert as it is coming up. what is the disinformation? what are the rumours? ., ,., ., ., rumours? there are some that have been covered _ rumours? there are some that have been covered by _ rumours? there are some that have been covered by your _ rumours? there are some that have been covered by your reporters, - been covered by your reporters, people saying it is an attempt by the government to control your phone and gain access to your phone. it is broadcast only, there is no return leg. there are more lurid ones from people who are much deeper into conspiracy theories saying, and i am not making this up, they are saying it will signal a pathogen in your covid vaccination and that is clearly something which is never going to happen. clearly something which is never going to happen-— going to happen. quite a bit of disinformation _ going to happen. quite a bit of disinformation spreading - going to happen. quite a bit of disinformation spreading and l going to happen. quite a bit of. disinformation spreading and what kind of traction is this getting? i am interested as well in how much attention the uk's emergency alert trial has gotten from people outside britain who shared this conversation space. it britain who shared this conversation sace. . , , britain who shared this conversation sace. , ,, ., ., space. it has been spread across all the ma'or space. it has been spread across all the major platforms, _ space. it has been spread across all the major platforms, twitter- space. it has been spread across all the major platforms, twitter and i the major platforms, twitter and facebook, and we have got some in

telegram as well. 0utside facebook, and we have got some in telegram as well. outside of the uk, i don't think they are really bothered by the uk testing, especially in countries where they already have them. but we have seen them going off in florida, for example, the other day and there have been no ill effects. it rather spoils the british conspiracy theorists saying something awful is going to happen. haifa theorists saying something awful is going to happen-— going to happen. how easy is it to ut these going to happen. how easy is it to put these conspiracy _ going to happen. how easy is it to put these conspiracy theories - going to happen. how easy is it to put these conspiracy theories to i put these conspiracy theories to bed, if one tries to engage with these people online and say this is just a government test and there is no fat in these conspiracy theories. we have been following this thing for about three years since covid took hold and it is very difficult, once somebody�*s mind is made up about not trusting the government an authority and science, they are very difficult to turn back. you have to do it gently and kindly, you have to

help them seek good information, and thatis help them seek good information, and that is why it is important you have people like us searching out these things and giving people trusted news. . ~' things and giving people trusted news. ., ~ , ., ., ., things and giving people trusted news. ., ~ ., ., news. ok, thank you for that. do stick with us. _ news. ok, thank you for that. do stick with us. i _ news. ok, thank you for that. do stick with us. i want _ news. ok, thank you for that. do stick with us. i want to _ news. ok, thank you for that. do stick with us. i want to go - news. ok, thank you for that. do stick with us. i want to go back i stick with us. i want to go back briefly to professor david alexander from the emergency planning department. how much concern as it, there was conspiracy theories alistair was speaking about? i there was conspiracy theories alistair was speaking about? i think it is a serious _ alistair was speaking about? i think it is a serious concern, _ alistair was speaking about? i think it is a serious concern, but - alistair was speaking about? i think it is a serious concern, but not - it is a serious concern, but not merely regarding this sort of alert with respect to any kind of information about risks, threats and emergencies, which is given out to the public. what has to happen all the public. what has to happen all the time is that the government has to earn the trust of the people, they have to do so by being consistent, by providing reliable information that people will come to trust because it is consistent and

reliable. and like so. however, we have not really learnt how to deal adequately with conspiracy theories, this is something which is very persistent and difficult, and is going to require a great deal of thought and effort in the future, not merely in respect to alerts of this kind. it is completely benign, i think it is a very good idea, absolutely necessary to warn people about things that could occur very rapidly and these are not only necessary terrible impacts, for example when the pope died in rome the whole country received a message, not to come to rome simply because it was full of people. that was what you would colourwhite emergency where it was managed as if it was an emergency in order to stop it was an emergency in order to stop it becoming one.— it was an emergency in order to stop it becoming one. thank you for now, let's cross to — it becoming one. thank you for now, let's cross to glasgow _ it becoming one. thank you for now, let's cross to glasgow and _ it becoming one. thank you for now, let's cross to glasgow and our - let's cross to glasgow and our reporter alexandra mckenzie who is

out on the street. what have people been saying to you in glasgow about this emergency which we are expecting in about six minutes. i am expecting in about six minutes. i am here on buchanan _ expecting in about six minutes. i—n here on buchanan street which is a busy shopping centre in glasgow and i have been speaking to some people this afternoon and most people have said oh, yes, the alert. they seem to have forgotten about it, there is not much fuss about it at all. i popped into the cinema in the shopping centre and they have got a couple of films running through three o'clock and they said they were going to ask people to put their phones on aeroplane mode so they will not hear the alerts. i have grabbed some people from the street to find out what their thoughts are. how much did you know about the alert? i thoughts are. how much did you know about the alert?— about the alert? i have been out of the country — about the alert? i have been out of the country so _ about the alert? i have been out of the country so i — about the alert? i have been out of the country so i only _ about the alert? i have been out of the country so i only became - about the alert? i have been out of| the country so i only became aware of it when_ the country so i only became aware of it when i— the country so i only became aware of it when i came back on friday and listening _ of it when i came back on friday and listening to — of it when i came back on friday and listening to bbc news this morning. i listening to bbc news this morning. i don't _ listening to bbc news this morning. i don't know what is going to happen, _ i don't know what is going to happen, i_ i don't know what is going to happen, i believe other countries use this — happen, i believe other countries use this system. you happen, i believe other countries use this system.—

happen, i believe other countries use this system. you have spent a bit of time — use this system. you have spent a bit of time in _ use this system. you have spent a bit of time in america, _ use this system. you have spent a bit of time in america, is - use this system. you have spent a bit of time in america, is it - bit of time in america, is it something you had experienced over there? ., . , something you had experienced over there? ., ., , ., ., ., something you had experienced over there? ., ., ., ., there? no, i was in california last ear and there? no, i was in california last year and i — there? no, i was in california last year and i believe _ there? no, i was in california last year and i believe they _ there? no, i was in california last year and i believe they use - there? no, i was in california last year and i believe they use it - there? no, i was in california last year and i believe they use it for. year and i believe they use it for earthquake alerts for wildfires and things— earthquake alerts for wildfires and things like that, it is a really good — things like that, it is a really good idea. things like that, it is a really good idea-— things like that, it is a really good idea. things like that, it is a really ood idea. ~ ., ~ , ., good idea. what you think is going to ha en good idea. what you think is going to happen three — good idea. what you think is going to happen three o'clock? - good idea. what you think is going to happen three o'clock? i - good idea. what you think is going to happen three o'clock? i don't i to happen three o'clock? i don't know, i to happen three o'clock? i don't know. i am _ to happen three o'clock? i don't know, i am expecting _ to happen three o'clock? i don't know, i am expecting my - to happen three o'clock? i don't know, i am expecting my phone to happen three o'clock? i don't i know, i am expecting my phone to make _ know, i am expecting my phone to make a _ know, i am expecting my phone to make a noise and everybody else's around _ make a noise and everybody else's around me — make a noise and everybody else's around me to do the same but we will have to _ around me to do the same but we will have to wait _ around me to do the same but we will have to wait and see. gne around me to do the same but we will have to wait and see.— have to wait and see. one of the eo - le have to wait and see. one of the people around — have to wait and see. one of the people around and _ have to wait and see. one of the people around and about - have to wait and see. one of the people around and about you - have to wait and see. one of the people around and about you is. have to wait and see. one of the - people around and about you is here, how much do you know about the alert? i how much do you know about the alert? ., ~ ., , . , alert? i have known since they announced _ alert? i have known since they announced it _ alert? i have known since they announced it but _ alert? i have known since they announced it but i _ alert? i have known since they announced it but i forgot - alert? i have known since they| announced it but i forgot about alert? i have known since they - announced it but i forgot about it, and it_ announced it but i forgot about it, and it is— announced it but i forgot about it, and it is supposed _ announced it but i forgot about it, and it is supposed to _ announced it but i forgot about it, and it is supposed to go _ announced it but i forgot about it, and it is supposed to go off- announced it but i forgot about it, and it is supposed to go off about| and it is supposed to go off about three _ and it is supposed to go off about three or— and it is supposed to go off about three or have _ and it is supposed to go off about three or have three. _ and it is supposed to go off about three or have three. my- and it is supposed to go off about three or have three. my mum - and it is supposed to go off about i three or have three. my mum texted me to _ three or have three. my mum texted me to remind — three or have three. my mum texted me to remind me— three or have three. my mum texted me to remind me about _ three or have three. my mum texted me to remind me about it— three or have three. my mum texted me to remind me about it because ii me to remind me about it because i have been— me to remind me about it because i have been quite _ me to remind me about it because i have been quite nervous— me to remind me about it because i have been quite nervous about - me to remind me about it because i have been quite nervous about it? i| have been quite nervous about it? i don't _ have been quite nervous about it? i don't really— have been quite nervous about it? i don't really know— have been quite nervous about it? i don't really know much _ have been quite nervous about it? i don't really know much about - have been quite nervous about it? i don't really know much about it, ii don't really know much about it, i am not _ don't really know much about it, i am not looking _ don't really know much about it, i am not looking forward _ don't really know much about it, i am not looking forward to - don't really know much about it, i am not looking forward to it. - don't really know much about it, i am not looking forward to it. i- don't really know much about it, i| am not looking forward to it. 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have been— if my mum never reminded me i would have been like. — if my mum never reminded me i would have been like, what _ if my mum never reminded me i would have been like, what is— if my mum never reminded me i would have been like, what is happening? - if my mum never reminded me i would have been like, what is happening? i. have been like, what is happening? i think it _ have been like, what is happening? i think it is _ have been like, what is happening? i think it is unnecessary— have been like, what is happening? i think it is unnecessary stress - have been like, what is happening? i think it is unnecessary stress and - think it is unnecessary stress and panic. _ think it is unnecessary stress and panic. especially— think it is unnecessary stress and panic, especially for— think it is unnecessary stress and panic, especially for old - think it is unnecessary stress and panic, especially for old people i panic, especially for old people that might _ panic, especially for old people that might not _ panic, especially for old people that might not know— panic, especially for old people that might not know about - panic, especially for old people that might not know about it, i panic, especially for old people i that might not know about it, like they might — that might not know about it, like they might not _ that might not know about it, like they might not be _ that might not know about it, like they might not be on _ that might not know about it, like they might not be on social- that might not know about it, likel they might not be on social media. they will— they might not be on social media. they will hear _ they might not be on social media. they will hear it _ they might not be on social media. they will hear it on _ they might not be on social media. they will hear it on the _ they might not be on social media. they will hear it on the phone - they might not be on social media. they will hear it on the phone andl they will hear it on the phone and be like. _ they will hear it on the phone and be like. what _ they will hear it on the phone and be like, what the _ they will hear it on the phone and be like, what the hell? _ they will hear it on the phone and be like, what the hell? lethal- they will hear it on the phone and be like, what the hell?— be like, what the hell? what if there was _ be like, what the hell? what if there was an _ be like, what the hell? what if there was an incident, - be like, what the hell? what if there was an incident, this - be like, what the hell? what if there was an incident, this is l there was an incident, this is obviously a test, but say in the future there was an incident, do you think it would be a good way of informing people?— think it would be a good way of informing people? 100%. it is going on everyone's _ informing people? 10096. it is going on everyone's phone, _ informing people? 10096. it is going on everyone's phone, only - informing people? 10096. it is going on everyone's phone, only if- informing people? 10096. it is going on everyone's phone, only if you i on everyone's phone, only if you turn _ on everyone's phone, only if you turn your— on everyone's phone, only if you turn your phone _ on everyone's phone, only if you turn your phone off— on everyone's phone, only if you turn your phone off you - on everyone's phone, only if you turn your phone off you are i on everyone's phone, only if you turn your phone off you are not i turn your phone off you are not going _ turn your phone off you are not going to — turn your phone off you are not going to get _ turn your phone off you are not going to get it— turn your phone off you are not going to get it so— turn your phone off you are not going to get it so everyone i turn your phone off you are not going to get it so everyone willj turn your phone off you are not i going to get it so everyone will see it. it going to get it so everyone will see it it is _ going to get it so everyone will see it it is a _ going to get it so everyone will see it it is a good _ going to get it so everyone will see it it is a good way— going to get it so everyone will see it. it is a good way to— going to get it so everyone will see it. it is a good way to keep - it. it is a good way to keep everyone _ it. it is a good way to keep everyone up—to—date i it. it is a good way to keep everyone up—to—date withl it. it is a good way to keep i everyone up—to—date with what it. it is a good way to keep - everyone up—to—date with what is going _ everyone up—to—date with what is going on — everyone up-to-date with what is auoin on. ., . everyone up-to-date with what is ttoin on, ., , ., ., ~' everyone up-to-date with what is ttoin on. ., , ., ., ~' going on. that is great, thank you all very much _ going on. that is great, thank you all very much for— going on. that is great, thank you all very much for the _ going on. that is great, thank you all very much for the moment. i going on. that is great, thank you | all very much for the moment. we will come back to the other guys we have got here just after three o'clock when we have heard that alert on our phones here in glasgow, as it will be around the country. one of the running themes and conversations around us does seem to

be that sense of order overkill, doesn't it?— doesn't it? here the sense is that i'm doesn't it? here the sense is that i'm getting _ doesn't it? here the sense is that i'm getting the — doesn't it? here the sense is that i'm getting the people _ doesn't it? here the sense is that i'm getting the people of- doesn't it? here the sense is that i'm getting the people of either. i'm getting the people of either forgot about it or didn't know much about it, before i left the office, i was speaking to a colleague who works there in edinburgh and we were comparing the cities and saying how we see much information on this? the answer kind of seems no, people have heard on bbc news and on the website, so the information has been there and been on the government sites as well, but i think people are enjoying a sunday afternoon here and not thinking about the three o'clock emergency alert. that and not thinking about the three o'clock emergency alert.- o'clock emergency alert. that is . reat, o'clock emergency alert. that is great. thank — o'clock emergency alert. that is great, thank you _ o'clock emergency alert. that is great, thank you very _ o'clock emergency alert. that is great, thank you very much i o'clock emergency alert. that is great, thank you very much for| o'clock emergency alert. that is i great, thank you very much for now. let's bring in the chief of the un office for disaster. do you think the british government have done a good enoughjob of the british government have done a good enough job of advertising the british government have done a good enoughjob of advertising its test, it feels it is necessary to do this? i

test, it feels it is necessary to do this? .., ., test, it feels it is necessary to do this? ., ., , ., ., this? i cannot really say, i am not in the uk right— this? i cannot really say, i am not in the uk right now _ this? i cannot really say, i am not in the uk right now but _ this? i cannot really say, i am not in the uk right now but what i i this? i cannot really say, i am not in the uk right now but what i will say is this a still new for people and of course there is going to be a bit of concern at the very beginning. but they will soon see this as an essential public good. this is very much part of what a government should be providing to its people so they are better prepared and able to withstand disastrous. we know thatjust 21l hours notice of an impending flood can save damages of up to 30%. there really is very critical reason to invest in this type of technology and i applaud the british government's attempt and the media also plays an important role in sensitising the public. let also plays an important role in sensitising the public.- also plays an important role in sensitising the public. let me 'ust interrupted — sensitising the public. let me 'ust interrupted there, i sensitising the public. let me 'ust interrupted there, we i sensitising the public. let me 'ust interrupted there, we have i sensitising the public. let me just interrupted there, we have heard| sensitising the public. let me just i interrupted there, we have heard the alert going off as you have been speaking, let's go to some of our live shots now, up and down the country of people receiving this alert.

0k, ok, this emergency alert has landed. we can see our reporter on 0xford we can see our reporter on oxford street. this is what the other it looks like on her phone telling people this is just a test, no action is necessary. if you are just joining us this is the test of written's new emergency alert system which the government has introduced to try and save lives in the case of serious incidents, natural disasters, terror attacks in that sort of thing. a pity loud siren. it is hard to ignore this, isn't it?

that is for life and death