0k, ok, this emergency alert has landed. we can see our reporter on oxford street. this is what the other it looks like on her phone telling people this is just a test, no action is necessary. if you are just joining us this is the test of written�*s new emergency alert system which the government has introduced to try and save lives in the case of serious incidents, natural disasters, terror attacks in that sort of thing. a pity loud siren. it is hard to ignore this, isn't it?

that is for life and death situations intending to make people stop and take protective action, whether evacuating a fling to a safe place. it really will be used as necessary so i really would encourage people not to be too worried about the intrusion into their lives. it is really designed as a public good and, as i was saying before, ithink as a public good and, as i was saying before, i think the media has a very important role to play in helping to sensitise people as to why this is so important.- helping to sensitise people as to why this is so important. thank you very much. — why this is so important. thank you very much. do _ why this is so important. thank you very much, do stick— why this is so important. thank you very much, do stick with _ why this is so important. thank you very much, do stick with is - why this is so important. thank you very much, do stick with is now- very much, do stick with is now here. our reporter alexander mackenzie is in glasgow. the electors sounded and you're on the cannon street. we are here. did it come a bit early? i think we were taking a little bit by surprise there and expecting it to be spot on at three o'clock. there was a bit of noise on the street with people pulling their phones as their pockets to have a look at it and

everything seems to go back to normal very quickly with absolutely normal very quickly with absolutely no force. we do have some people here just to get a bit of reaction. —— no fuss. connie, you're a student here in glasgow, is that light? is that what you're expecting? i saw the news that _ that what you're expecting? i saw the news that they _ that what you're expecting? i saw the news that they did _ that what you're expecting? i saw the news that they did shows - that what you're expecting? i saw-"r" the news that they did shows an alert on the news, what you were expecting but i only saw a little bit of it but i didn't think it would actually happen. mas bit of it but i didn't think it would actually happen. was it quite loud in your — would actually happen. was it quite loud in your phone? _ would actually happen. was it quite loud in your phone? this _ would actually happen. was it quite loud in your phone? this is - would actually happen. was it quite loud in your phone? this is big - loud in your phone? this is big enou:h loud in your phone? this is big enough at _ loud in your phone? this is big enough at different _ loud in your phone? this is big enough at different times. - loud in your phone? this is big. enough at different times. mine loud in your phone? this is big - enough at different times. mine was a bit early and put a new system in my phone from an update. we a bit early and put a new system in my phone from an update.- my phone from an update. we are exectin: my phone from an update. we are exoeeting that? — my phone from an update. we are expecting that? no. _ my phone from an update. we are expecting that? no. did _ my phone from an update. we are expecting that? no. did you - my phone from an update. we are expecting that? no. did you know| expecting that? no. did you know much about the alert before? same much about the alert before? some --eole much about the alert before? some people were — much about the alert before? some people were talking _ much about the alert before? some people were talking about - much about the alert before? some people were talking about it - much about the alert before? some people were talking about it in - people were talking about it in school were mostlyjust people were talking about it in school were mostly just talking people were talking about it in school were mostlyjust talking at how it would be. i saw some years and tiktok that some people were kind of scared about it and some

people were a little shocked and scared about similar sounds. do you think people do have a tendency to not react well to that kind of sounds and it is maybe not a good thing for them as well.— thing for them as well. there are some people _ thing for them as well. there are some people who _ thing for them as well. there are some people who aren't - thing for them as well. there are some people who aren't immune j thing for them as well. there are i some people who aren't immune to loud noises and can get scared kind of ease at the same time it is kind of ease at the same time it is kind of good because this is good for the future as well because something might happen badly. but for some people it can be a little bit nerve—racking for them, yes. this was obviously a test. do to a sudden noise like that would be quite beneficial to no—one emergency is happening? beneficial to no-one emergency is happening?— beneficial to no-one emergency is hauenin~?, _ , happening? definitely because if you need it on your _ happening? definitely because if you need it on your phone _ happening? definitely because if you need it on your phone people - happening? definitely because if you need it on your phone people always| need it on your phone people always on the phone so if something bad happens you can know by your phone and it will give you to help you and you can help someone else with the alarm system as well.—

you can help someone else with the alarm system as well. thank you very much. james. — alarm system as well. thank you very much. james, what _ alarm system as well. thank you very much. james, what happened - alarm system as well. thank you very much. james, what happened with i alarm system as well. thank you very l much. james, what happened with your much. james, what happened with your phone as well? to much. james, what happened with your phone as well?— phone as well? to the gulf? actually turn my phone- _ phone as well? to the gulf? actually turn my phone- i _ phone as well? to the gulf? actually turn my phone. i can _ phone as well? to the gulf? actually turn my phone. i can really - phone as well? to the gulf? actually turn my phone. i can really botheredj turn my phone. i can really bothered with it _ turn my phone. i can really bothered with it -- _ turn my phone. i can really bothered with it. , ., , ., ., turn my phone. i can really bothered with it. , ., ., with it. -- did your phone go off. it was a bit _ with it. -- did your phone go off. it was a bit underwhelming - with it. -- did your phone go off. it was a bit underwhelming to - with it. -- did your phone go off. it was a bit underwhelming to be| it was a bit underwhelming to be honest — it was a bit underwhelming to be honest i— it was a bit underwhelming to be honest. i expected a bit of a panic or something. did honest. i expected a bit of a panic or something-— honest. i expected a bit of a panic or something. did you expect people on the street — or something. did you expect people on the street to _ or something. did you expect people on the street to the _ or something. did you expect people on the street to the exhibit - or something. did you expect people on the street to the exhibit more? i or something. did you expect people on the street to the exhibit more? a| on the street to the exhibit more? a bit of screaming and hollering and stuff like — bit of screaming and hollering and stuff like that. i bit of screaming and hollering and stuff like that.— stuff like that. i was kind of nothing- — stuff like that. i was kind of nothing- it _ stuff like that. i was kind of nothing. it kind _ stuff like that. i was kind of nothing. it kind of - stuff like that. i was kind of nothing. it kind of a - stuff like that. i was kind of. nothing. it kind of a dividend notice. i can _ nothing. it kind of a dividend notice. i can see _ nothing. it kind of a dividend notice. i can see why - nothing. it kind of a dividend notice. i can see why they i nothing. it kind of a dividend | notice. i can see why they are nothing. it kind of a dividend - notice. i can see why they are doing it. i notice. i can see why they are doing it i can— notice. i can see why they are doing it i can say— notice. i can see why they are doing it i can say it— notice. i can see why they are doing it. i can say it is affecting other places— it. i can say it is affecting other places and _ it. i can say it is affecting other places and i don't know how much of a notice _ places and i don't know how much of a notice it— places and i don't know how much of a notice it has been. i guess it went— a notice it has been. i guess it went under— a notice it has been. i guess it went under the radar. you a notice it has been. i guess it went under the radar.- a notice it has been. i guess it went under the radar. you say it went under the radar. you say it went under— went under the radar. you say it went under the _ went under the radar. you say it went under the radar. _ went under the radar. you say it went under the radar. do - went under the radar. you say it went under the radar. do you i went under the radar. you say it i went under the radar. do you think people could have been informed a bit more about it possibly different ways? bit more about it possibly different wa s? �* , ., , , bit more about it possibly different wa s? q ., , , ., bit more about it possibly different was? .,y ways? aye i only fed us on thursday. i was at my — ways? aye i only fed us on thursday. i was at my gran's _ ways? aye i only fed us on thursday. i was at my gran's i _ ways? aye i only fed us on thursday. i was at my gran's i think _ ways? aye i only fed us on thursday. i was at my gran's i think the - ways? aye i only fed us on thursday. i was at my gran's i think the could i i was at my gran's i think the could be i was at my gran's i think the could he a _ i was at my gran's i think the could he a hit _

i was at my gran's i think the could be a bit more advertising or something. i had no idea. what if ou were something. i had no idea. what if you were in _ something. i had no idea. what if you were in an — something. i had no idea. what if you were in an area _ something. i had no idea. what if you were in an area that - something. i had no idea. what if you were in an area that was - something. i had no idea. what if| you were in an area that was badly flooded? will be important to know that was happening is that you think in that sense in that situation it would be a good idea. i in that sense in that situation it would be a good idea.— in that sense in that situation it would be a good idea. i think your ublic would be a good idea. i think your public notice _ would be a good idea. i think your public notice at _ would be a good idea. i think your public notice at first _ would be a good idea. i think your public notice at first rather- would be a good idea. i think your public notice at first rather than i public notice at first rather than on your— public notice at first rather than on your phone? there is something bad on your phone? there is something had going _ on your phone? there is something bad going on here and i will get out of here _ bad going on here and i will get out of here. ., , bad going on here and i will get out of here. . , ., ., ~ i. of here. that is great. thank you very much _ of here. that is great. thank you very much to _ of here. that is great. thank you very much to all _ of here. that is great. thank you very much to all of _ of here. that is great. thank you very much to all of my _ of here. that is great. thank you very much to all of my guests i of here. that is great. thank you l very much to all of my guests here in buchanan street in glasgow. studio: alexander, thank you much. we arejoined by studio: alexander, thank you much. we are joined by the bbc�*s anthony ward he was filming scenes in bristol a short time ago when the alert went off. good to see you and we had one of alexandra's as saying he felt it was a bit underwhelming. how was the reaction in bristol? i would not say that was the case here in the city centre. of the 13 passers—by who kindly agreed to sit on the wall for us here only one person didn't get the alert but for the visit was a very noticeable. did

these people know it was coming under that catch by surprise? mostly did. i under that catch by surprise? mostly did- i asked — under that catch by surprise? mostly did. i asked them _ under that catch by surprise? mostly did. i asked them if— under that catch by surprise? mostly did. i asked them if they _ under that catch by surprise? mostly did. i asked them if they knew- under that catch by surprise? mostly did. i asked them if they knew was l did. i asked them if they knew was coming and most of them did seem to know it was coming. some people dubious about if they might receive it because that perhaps their phones were registered abroad but, as i say, of 13 people, only one didn't get the alert, sol say, of 13 people, only one didn't get the alert, so i think they generally felt it was quite successful.— generally felt it was quite successful. �* ., , ., , generally felt it was quite successful. �* ., , successful. and of the people you soke to, successful. and of the people you spoke to. did _ successful. and of the people you spoke to, did they _ successful. and of the people you spoke to, did they feel _ successful. and of the people you spoke to, did they feel that - successful. and of the people you spoke to, did they feel that this l spoke to, did they feel that this was necessary for the british government to introduce this? or did they feel that this was a step too far? ., , ., , ., �* far? to be honest, i haven't interviewed _ far? to be honest, i haven't interviewed them _ far? to be honest, i haven't interviewed them about - far? to be honest, i haven't . interviewed them about exactly far? to be honest, i haven't - interviewed them about exactly that so i can't say. but i think people were generally positive. when i approached people know he was immediately negative and would just like i know that is happening and people weren't negative about it at all. some people were referring to the possibility of switching off the

alerts and one or two did. they had seen some advice think they could switch it off. but i don't think much negativity. generally people were positive about it.— much negativity. generally people were positive about it. anthony ward froze in bristol. _ were positive about it. anthony ward froze in bristol. let's _ were positive about it. anthony ward froze in bristol. let's go _ were positive about it. anthony ward froze in bristol. let's go to _ were positive about it. anthony ward froze in bristol. let's go to oxford i froze in bristol. let's go to oxford street and our reporter. —— anthony ward for us. oxford street is generally a bit dull my busy bustling place. was itjust a cacophony when the siren landed just before 3pm? you cacophony when the siren landed 'ust before 3pm?— before 3pm? you certainly couldn't miss the sound, _ before 3pm? you certainly couldn't miss the sound, that's _ before 3pm? you certainly couldn't miss the sound, that's for - before 3pm? you certainly couldn't miss the sound, that's for sure. . miss the sound, that's for sure. everyone was taking out their phones and looking at them sir comics curiously. no panic of visible anxiety but people will curious and swiping on the phone and reading quite quietly and also people were saying this is going to happen to be honest many of the people i have spoken to since said was a good sound, good alert, something i would pay attention to and that michael here. do you want to share your thoughts? what you think of the

elected eh? i thoughts? what you think of the elected eh?— thoughts? what you think of the elected eh? i think overall it was ositive. elected eh? i think overall it was positive- it _ elected eh? i think overall it was positive. it will _ elected eh? i think overall it was positive. it will be _ elected eh? i think overall it was positive. it will be good - elected eh? i think overall it was positive. it will be good for - positive. it will be good for elderly— positive. it will be good for elderly people with emergencies like flooding _ elderly people with emergencies like flooding or other events so i think it will— flooding or other events so i think it will he — flooding or other events so i think it will be good. it is quite subtle. it wasn't — it will be good. it is quite subtle. it wasn't loud at all so i think it would — it wasn't loud at all so i think it would he — it wasn't loud at all so i think it would be really effective for the elderly — would be really effective for the elderly are especially because they don't want to be startled. it was very— don't want to be startled. it was very calming. in a way, it is being reassured — very calming. in a way, it is being reassured of— very calming. in a way, it is being reassured of what is going on because _ reassured of what is going on because there is a was that uncertainty of what is going on but i think— uncertainty of what is going on but i think the — uncertainty of what is going on but i think the alarm wasn't too loud. it was _ i think the alarm wasn't too loud. it was a _ i think the alarm wasn't too loud. it was a notification and you look at your— it was a notification and you look at your phone. i knew of it from yesterday — at your phone. i knew of it from yesterday but didn't know when and was looking at my phone to see what it would _ was looking at my phone to see what it would he _ was looking at my phone to see what it would be like. you was looking at my phone to see what it would be like.— it would be like. you had heard about it. how— it would be like. you had heard about it. how did _ it would be like. you had heard about it. how did you - it would be like. you had heard about it. how did you hear- it would be like. you had heard i about it. how did you hear about it would be like. you had heard - about it. how did you hear about it? my about it. how did you hear about it? my girlfriend told me there was going _ my girlfriend told me there was going to — my girlfriend told me there was going to be an alarm of some sort. it is a _ going to be an alarm of some sort. it is a sunday so i was keeping an eye out— it is a sunday so i was keeping an eye out for— it is a sunday so i was keeping an eye out for it to see what it would be eye out for it to see what it would he like _ eye out for it to see what it would he like and — eye out for it to see what it would be like and what it was all about so overall— be like and what it was all about so overall i_ be like and what it was all about so overall i think it is going to be positive _

overall i think it is going to be ositive. ., ., , positive. you mention the elderly. what about _ positive. you mention the elderly. what about someone _ positive. you mention the elderly. what about someone like - positive. you mention the elderly. what about someone like yourself| positive. you mention the elderly. i what about someone like yourself if you heard there were severe weather on the way. you heard there were severe weather on the wa . ~ ., you heard there were severe weather onthewa . ~ ., you heard there were severe weather on the way-— on the way. would you find it helful? on the way. would you find it helpful? yes, _ on the way. would you find it helpful? yes, to _ on the way. would you find it helpful? yes, to get - on the way. would you find it helpful? yes, to get to - on the way. would you find it| helpful? yes, to get to safety on the way. would you find it i helpful? yes, to get to safety is on the way. would you find it - helpful? yes, to get to safety is so as possible — helpful? yes, to get to safety is so as possible and everyone was startled —— as soon as possible. you can be _ startled —— as soon as possible. you can be a _ startled —— as soon as possible. you can be a show— startled —— as soon as possible. you can be a show yourself as i know where _ can be a show yourself as i know where to — can be a show yourself as i know where to go and what to do and this is happening so i take action and a quick— is happening so i take action and a quick reminder because everyone is on the _ quick reminder because everyone is on the phone nowadays you can go on your phone _ on the phone nowadays you can go on your phone and have a little luck and it _ your phone and have a little luck and it will— your phone and have a little luck and it will be reassuring in a way of emergency. all and it will be reassuring in a way of emergency-— and it will be reassuring in a way of emergency. all in all a positive review. thank _ of emergency. all in all a positive review. thank you, _ of emergency. all in all a positive review. thank you, michael, - of emergency. all in all a positive review. thank you, michael, for l of emergency. all in all a positive i review. thank you, michael, for that and we have also been speaking to tourists here, some of whom knew this alert was coming but others who had no idea so there was a little bit of surprise among some tourists but a laugh from norway who will will bring in to have a chat with me this was happening. —— olaf from norway. this was happening. -- olaf from norwa . , ., this was happening. -- olaf from norwa . , ~ ., , this was happening. -- olaf from norwa. , ~ norway. yes, i knew was happening. i have been in — norway. yes, i knew was happening. i have been in london _ norway. yes, i knew was happening. i have been in london a _ norway. yes, i knew was happening. i have been in london a few _

norway. yes, i knew was happening. i have been in london a few months - norway. yes, i knew was happening. i have been in london a few months as| have been in london a few months as i heard _ have been in london a few months as i heard of— have been in london a few months as i heard of it _ have been in london a few months as i heard of it for— have been in london a few months as i heard of it for many— have been in london a few months as i heard of it for many channels. - i heard of it for many channels. what _ i heard of it for many channels. what did — i heard of it for many channels. what did you _ i heard of it for many channels. what did you think— i heard of it for many channels. what did you think are - i heard of it for many channels. what did you think are same? i i heard of it for many channels. | what did you think are same? in i heard of it for many channels. what did you think are same? in the store we had — what did you think are same? in the store we had this _ what did you think are same? in the store we had this annoying - what did you think are same? in the store we had this annoying sound and thought— store we had this annoying sound and thought it _ store we had this annoying sound and thought it was — store we had this annoying sound and thought it was some _ store we had this annoying sound and thought it was some theft _ store we had this annoying sound and thought it was some theft protectionl thought it was some theft protection iioii'i thought it was some theft protection going on— thought it was some theft protection going on so— thought it was some theft protection going on so i— thought it was some theft protection going on so i didn't _ thought it was some theft protection going on so i didn't notice _ thought it was some theft protection going on so i didn't notice until- thought it was some theft protection going on so i didn't notice until i- going on so i didn't notice until i -ot going on so i didn't notice until i got out — going on so i didn't notice until i got out that— going on so i didn't notice until i got out that it _ going on so i didn't notice until i got out that it was _ going on so i didn't notice until i got out that it was a _ going on so i didn't notice until i got out that it was a message i going on so i didn't notice until i| got out that it was a message on going on so i didn't notice until i- got out that it was a message on my phone _ got out that it was a message on my hone. ~ ., got out that it was a message on my hone. ~ . got out that it was a message on my hone. . . , , phone. what did the message say? it was a lone phone. what did the message say? it was a long message. _ phone. what did the message say? it was a long message. it _ phone. what did the message say? it was a long message. it was _ phone. what did the message say? it was a long message. it was an i was a long message. it was an emergency test. i realise immediately what it was because i had heard about it already and seen some posters on the subway, the underground, as well. did it get your attention? when i finally checked _ did it get your attention? when i finally checked my _ did it get your attention? when i finally checked my phone - did it get your attention? when i finally checked my phone i i did it get your attention? when i finally checked my phone i did i finally checked my phone i did notice — finally checked my phone i did notice the _ finally checked my phone i did notice the sound _ finally checked my phone i did notice the sound because i finally checked my phone i did notice the sound because it. finally checked my phone i did i notice the sound because it was a noisy— notice the sound because it was a noisy environment. _ notice the sound because it was a noisy environment. —— _ notice the sound because it was a noisy environment. —— i- notice the sound because it was a noisy environment. —— i didn't- noisy environment. —— i didn't notice — noisy environment. —— i didn't notice the _ noisy environment. —— i didn't notice the sand. _ noisy environment. —— i didn't notice the sand. in— noisy environment. -- i didn't notice the sand.— noisy environment. -- i didn't notice the sand. in ten places in euro -e notice the sand. in ten places in europe they _ notice the sand. in ten places in europe they do _ notice the sand. in ten places in europe they do have _ notice the sand. in ten places in europe they do have these i notice the sand. in ten places in | europe they do have these alerts notice the sand. in ten places in i europe they do have these alerts in place but no way is not one of them. i think they have something on a similar— i think they have something on a similar scale. _ i think they have something on a similarscale. i— i think they have something on a similar scale. i think— i think they have something on a similar scale. i think they - i think they have something on a similar scale. i think they have i similar scale. i think they have done _ similar scale. i think they have done some _ similar scale. i think they have done some research— similar scale. i think they have done some research and - similar scale. i think they have done some research and use i similar scale. i think they have done some research and use it similar scale. i think they have i done some research and use it for some _ done some research and use it for some winter— done some research and use it for some winter avalanches _ done some research and use it for some winter avalanches or- done some research and use it for- some winter avalanches or something like that _ some winter avalanches or something like that but — some winter avalanches or something like that but i'm _ some winter avalanches or something like that. but i'm not— some winter avalanches or something like that. but i'm not quite _ some winter avalanches or something like that. but i'm not quite sure. i like that. but i'm not quite sure. perhaps — like that. but i'm not quite sure. perhaps not _ like that. but i'm not quite sure. perhaps not as— like that. but i'm not quite sure. perhaps not as commonly. i like that. but i'm not quite sure. perhaps not as commonly. do i like that. but i'm not quite sure. i perhaps not as commonly. do you think this is a good idea? i perhaps not as commonly. do you think this is a good idea?- think this is a good idea? i don't think this is a good idea? i don't think there _ think this is a good idea? i don't think there has _ think this is a good idea? i don't think there has been _ think this is a good idea? i don't think there has been a - think this is a good idea? i don't i think there has been a large-scale think there has been a large—scale test like _ think there has been a large—scale test like this — think there has been a large—scale test like this at _ think there has been a large—scale test like this at home. _ think there has been a large—scale test like this at home. it— think there has been a large—scale test like this at home. it is- think there has been a large—scale test like this at home. it is the i test like this at home. it is the

first— test like this at home. it is the first evidence _ test like this at home. it is the first evidence of _ test like this at home. it is the first evidence of them - test like this at home. it is the first evidence of them like i test like this at home. it is thel first evidence of them like that. test like this at home. it is the i first evidence of them like that. it is a good — first evidence of them like that. it is a good idea _ first evidence of them like that. it is a good idea i— first evidence of them like that. it is a good idea. i think— first evidence of them like that. it is a good idea. i think it _ first evidence of them like that. it is a good idea. i think it is - first evidence of them like that. it is a good idea. i think it is easy. is a good idea. i think it is easy to get— is a good idea. i think it is easy to get information _ is a good idea. i think it is easy to get information this - is a good idea. i think it is easy to get information this way- is a good idea. i think it is easy- to get information this way because nobody— to get information this way because nobody listens _ to get information this way because nobody listens to _ to get information this way because nobody listens to radio _ to get information this way because nobody listens to radio any- to get information this way because nobody listens to radio any more i nobody listens to radio any more anyway — nobody listens to radio any more anyway i— nobody listens to radio any more anyway. i think— nobody listens to radio any more anyway. i think it— nobody listens to radio any more anyway. i think it is— nobody listens to radio any more anyway. i think it is a _ nobody listens to radio any more anyway. i think it is a good - nobody listens to radio any more anyway. i think it is a good idea. | anyway. i think it is a good idea. thank— anyway. i think it is a good idea. thank you — anyway. i think it is a good idea. thank you for— anyway. i think it is a good idea. thank you for that _ anyway. i think it is a good idea. thank you for that idea. - anyway. i think it is a good idea. thank you for that idea. we i anyway. i think it is a good idea. | thank you for that idea. we have anyway. i think it is a good idea. i thank you for that idea. we have got tourists and vicious alike and reacting to that alert system on oxford street —— tourists and brits alike. certainly got lots of peoples attention and many people curious. if you're just attention and many people curious. if you'rejustjoining us attention and many people curious. if you're justjoining us at about 11 minutes ago more or less every smartphone across the uk sounded an emergency alert. this is part of a test that the government was not organised and announced a few months ago introducing this emergency alert despite a test that the government has organised. it said it could send a message to snap it up and down the country in the event of an incident which had a severe risk to life such as a weather disaster or terror attack. they said today was going to be the test date and the time of the test was actually changed to accommodate the fa cup final and the

alert has been ringing up and in the country. we have beenjoined by the potters across the uk. let's have a listen to what it sounded like. long beep. so that is the emergency alert which sounded about 20 seconds before 3pm. let's go now to chief of the un office for disaster risk reduction. as we heard their speaking to our guests norway, not every country operates something like this. with the mac would the united nations like to see this is standard practice?— united nations like to see this is standard practice? absolutely. we're -ushina standard practice? absolutely. we're pushing very — standard practice? absolutely. we're pushing very hard — standard practice? absolutely. we're pushing very hard for _ standard practice? absolutely. we're pushing very hard for this. _ standard practice? absolutely. we're pushing very hard for this. the i pushing very hard for this. the secretary general has launched an initiative called early warnings for all. we want to see every country in the world covered by effective early warning system the next five years and especially in the least developed countries where we know

that investment such as $800 million which sounds like a lot but is not a lot when you think about the fact that this could save up to $16 billion a year in terms of humanitarian losses and damages to the community so this is a very worthwhile investment and we're really focusing on our attention on those countries in the first line of the climate crisis. the small island developing states. africa, where many countries do not yet have effective early warning systems. this is a big push by the united nations, a priority of the united nations, a priority of the united nations but also the red cross movement which is an important player in this initiative as well. so this is a goal that we certainly hope we will achieve because it will definitely save lives. please continue to stick with us. we can now go to a reporter matt graveling who was as they finished was a day's london marathon. just who was as they finished was a day's london marathon.— london marathon. just like he is at

the finish for _ london marathon. just like he is at the finish for today's _ london marathon. just like he is at the finish for today's london i the finish for today's london marathon. uke signed by thousands of people and it was a noisy when it went on a 3pm. how did people react? that you might expect it is a little bit surprised not that they did and it was coming and everybody has just finished running miles so probably a government alert not highest on their agenda and when it did come it was a minute early and on the screen are people's phone it said this was are people's phone it said this was a test of emergency at. like threatening emergency nearby and when that happened a lot of people did start playing around with their phone and there was quite a lot of noise on the finish line and some people taking their phones out in their pockets. i think possibly the biggest nuisance for people because not everybody here is stopping and having a picture, a selfie if you will. the big london marathon backdrop and obviously we have got there and when they were taking the

selfie pictures they had to stop, wait ten seconds and then take another one because of this government alert so by my reckoning it was a minute early but definitely not for the people here who decided to leave the alert turned off. at to leave the alert turned off. of course with the london marathon today and for more later on that is quite appropriate because as we have seenin quite appropriate because as we have seen in the past or terror attacks both in the uk and elsewhere, the targets of such acts can often be these large—scale events where lots of people have congregated together at the same time. so this really was at the same time. so this really was a good test of the system in terms of how it landed amongst a big crowd of how it landed amongst a big crowd of people, wasn't it? that of how it landed amongst a big crowd of people, wasn't it?— of people, wasn't it? that is correct. _ of people, wasn't it? that is correct. yes- _ of people, wasn't it? that is correct, yes. we _ of people, wasn't it? that is correct, yes. we have - of people, wasn't it? that is correct, yes. we have got i of people, wasn't it? that is - correct, yes. we have got about 47,000 correct, yes. we have got about 10,000 people here today which is the biggest london marathon ever. this event has obviously been on since 1981. of course, people running this event may have had headphones in with music so a few people i spoke to did actually choose to turn the alert off.

obviously, that would be advisable for anybody wanting to... real life situation as you said thousands of people at the fa cup semifinal is also a good testing ground and it definitely did work and it definitely did work and it definitely did work and it definitely did get information to a lot of people very quickly. let’s definitely did get information to a lot of people very quickly. let's go back to our — lot of people very quickly. let's go back to our reporter _ lot of people very quickly. let's go back to our reporter alistair - back to our reporter alistair coleman who covers disinformation for the bbc. this is the alert which for the bbc. this is the alert which for several weeks people have been saying is your sign to run for the hills. has it come to be that way, do you think?— hills. has it come to be that way, do you think? no. i was incredibly underwhelmed _ do you think? no. i was incredibly underwhelmed by _ do you think? no. i was incredibly underwhelmed by it. _ do you think? no. i was incredibly underwhelmed by it. yes, - do you think? no. i was incredibly underwhelmed by it. yes, it - do you think? no. i was incredibly underwhelmed by it. yes, it camej do you think? no. i was incredibly i underwhelmed by it. yes, it came 30 seconds earlier but it was exactly as advertised. some people are actually saying they haven't received it yet and is properly nothing sinister behind that. it's just could be a quirk of the mobile phone tower system. all because you are on your wireless at home. yes,

it has worked. some people haven't got it but nothing dreadful has happened. got it but nothing dreadful has ha ened. ., ., got it but nothing dreadful has ha--ened. ., . , got it but nothing dreadful has ha . ened, ., ., , happened. you have been floating around the — happened. you have been floating around the spaces _ happened. you have been floating around the spaces of _ happened. you have been floating around the spaces of the - happened. you have been floating around the spaces of the internet | around the spaces of the internet that you often keep an eye on. what was people's instant reactions amongst these communities of conspiracy forms.— amongst these communities of conspiracy forms. they have been laruel conspiracy forms. they have been largely quiet _ conspiracy forms. they have been largely quiet about _ conspiracy forms. they have been largely quiet about it. _ conspiracy forms. they have been largely quiet about it. this - conspiracy forms. they have been l largely quiet about it. this happens all the time and conspiracy forums when something they say is going to happen doesn't happen. they usually will say these things take time, wait until the next one and that's what i'm fully expecting is going to happen that they will just move quietly onto the next dreadful thing that the government is going to do to us. �* , ., that the government is going to do to us. �* , . ., ~ that the government is going to do tous.�* h, ., , that the government is going to do tous. .,�*, , . to us. alistair, thank you very much and to stick — to us. alistair, thank you very much and to stick with _ to us. alistair, thank you very much and to stick with us. _ to us. alistair, thank you very much and to stick with us. we're - to us. alistair, thank you very much and to stick with us. we're also - and to stick with us. we're also joined by director of the national centre for disaster preparedness at climate school. good to see you and thank you much for being with us. we've been discussing over the last half hour how these alerts might be used and of course of a big element and there is the climate emergency,

floods, typhoons, hurricane. new talks through the practicality in these situations and white is so important to get a message out there? , ., , , , there? yes, absolutely. getting these messages _ there? yes, absolutely. getting these messages out _ there? yes, absolutely. getting these messages out can - there? yes, absolutely. getting these messages out can range l there? yes, absolutely. gettingl these messages out can range of there? yes, absolutely. getting i these messages out can range of a wide range of things but really essentially boils down to information you need to keep yourself safe. this could be a situation, as you mention, where maybe there is a flood and you need to leave right away, you need to reel to get up and go on it's very time sensitive open i pay on the flip side you need to stay in one place and it is safe to stay in one place and it is safe to stay in one place as we saw the covid—19 pandemic may be getting information out to everyone from the same voice at the same time so there is a range of uses but all that kind boils down to a couple of scenarios and types of actions you might have to take. one of the running themes we have heard from our reporters up and down the country is this is all well and good if you are to british fans and his people who have had the newspaper advertisements and heard the news stories but if it is a foreigner or to british fans and his people who have had the newspaper advertisements and heard the news stories but if it is a foreigner or

tourist us a business trip how the it comes to climate issues. and natural disaster. just the same is true when it comes to... how do you mitigate against being an outsider and not knowing about the system country has in place? tum and not knowing about the system country has in place?— country has in place? two sides to this. one country has in place? two sides to this- one is _ country has in place? two sides to this. one is absolutely _ country has in place? two sides to this. one is absolutely as - country has in place? two sides to this. one is absolutely as people | this. one is absolutely as people enter the country providing information on this making sure those educational campaigns are ongoing but also making sure it is notjust one ongoing but also making sure it is not just one solution ongoing but also making sure it is notjust one solution that everybody is relying on what the service is paired up with other broadcast interruptions and other methods of providing information to people because each type of notification system can reach different cohorts, different groups of people but we should never rely on a single system shared by everyone. wejust rank should never rely on a single system shared by everyone. we just rank it as many as possible and at a couple of different ways. we as many as possible and at a couple of different ways.— of different ways. we heard earlier from nations _ of different ways. we heard earlier from nations representative - of different ways. we heard earlier| from nations representative talking about how this really is a critical tool especially when you look at small island states that are prone to natural disasters.

giving enough is being done by the likes of the un, western nations, etc to help this country is that systems up and running? —— to think enough is being done? i running? -- to think enough is being done? ., _ running? -- to think enough is being done? ., , ,., running? -- to think enough is being done? ., , , ., ., done? i would say yes and no. the letter was — done? i would say yes and no. the letter was a _ done? i would say yes and no. the letter was a lot _ done? i would say yes and no. the letter was a lot that _ done? i would say yes and no. the letter was a lot that can _ done? i would say yes and no. the letter was a lot that can be - done? i would say yes and no. the letter was a lot that can be done . done? i would say yes and no. the j letter was a lot that can be done in particular when we look at vulnerability mobility and web attention needs to be done there is attention needs to be done there is a lot of info that improvement —— vulnerability and where the attention needs to go. it is one thing to get the message out and get it to people but it is another thing for people to take the action is needed or be able to take the actions to be able to get out of hands waited as we have seen and hand's waited as we have seen and also tests in various countries including the united states, getting the message out is really only step one in a series of steps on how people interpret and understand their personal situation and actually take actions to get them to safety. actually take actions to get them to safe . ., ~ i, . ., ., actually take actions to get them to safe . ., . ., .,, safety. thank you much now. to stick with us. safety. thank you much now. to stick with us- we — safety. thank you much now. to stick with us. we also _ safety. thank you much now. to stick with us. we also joined _ safety. thank you much now. to stick with us. we also joined by _ safety. thank you much now. to stick with us. we also joined by uk - with us. we alsojoined by uk technologyjournalist with us. we alsojoined by uk technology journalist who with us. we alsojoined by uk technologyjournalist who have been speaking to people about the alert. the deafening. thank you forjoining us. what are people being sent to you? 50 us. what are people being sent to ou? ., ., , . ., ,

you? so far the main piece of use i think... actually _ you? so far the main piece of use i think... actually got _ you? so far the main piece of use i think... actually got the _ you? so far the main piece of use i think... actually got the alert - think... actually got the alert ellis vela came to me that i was getting set up to record the lesson it happened about a0 seconds early for me and i am on the ee network in the uk. what would appear to have any of the underlying story as many people in the network that they have not received the alert. lots of people talk too independently across the country had colleagues next to then go off on different networks on their phone and offensively have not given the alert. —— many people on the network three have not received the network three have not received the alert. i'm following that at the moment and waiting for comments back from the fresh team at three and that appears to be one of the issues and also lots of people expected the desert and haven't silenced it and had the right kind of devices also say they haven't received it does make people who expected the alert. this doesn't look as though it has been completely perfect but that is why they're testing it. that been completely perfect but that is why they're testing it.— why they're testing it. that is why the test why they're testing it. that is why they test a _ why they're testing it. that is why they test a system _ why they're testing it. that is why they test a system like _ why they're testing it. that is why they test a system like this. - why they're testing it. that is why they test a system like this. i - why they're testing it. that is why | they test a system like this. i want to get a bit more into the technology behind this with you. how does this work?—

does this work? simply works by any device that is — does this work? simply works by any device that is connected _ does this work? simply works by any device that is connected to _ does this work? simply works by any device that is connected to a - does this work? simply works by any device that is connected to a mobile | device that is connected to a mobile phone tower. that is where you get your system from. there are thousands of those across the uk and what this can do is use those. we have got all of them for the alert like we had today or once in a specific area. the little town i am in the wiltshire has about four or around this town so you can actually split it up and get pretty close pretty near to proximity if there is an alert of an issue like a flood or an alert of an issue like a flood or a fire or even in central london something like a terrorist attack. this system has been used in lots of other countries to great success. in the us to use it and the column the amber alert system in the years that for missing children. it has been used for active good men in tutors in certain scenarios too. so the system has been used to great effect in other countries. the me, somebody that has tech for so many years i've never seen a starving tech that has divided society in such a way —— in

the us it is used for active shooters in certain scenarios. we are seeing about 50% of people singly like the idea of the snake and keep it on and the other suggesting it is orwellian overreach going into 198a technology will make territory, big brother gone crazy. interesting to hear about the locality of this because you have cities like manchester and edinburgh and london which are potential targets of terrorist attacks but the other parts of the country where you mightjust want to alert a group of people within a specific area. tell us a little bit more about quite how specific and how tightly focused of this can be practised stop it is urel this can be practised stop it is purely based _ this can be practised stop it is purely based on _ this can be practised stop it 3 purely based on proximity to a mobile phone cell tower. i'm afraid i don't have a complete map of those stored in my brain but what i can tell you as it can be fairly specific so for the example for me i know near where i live down in

bristol there is the avonmouth docks, for example, ending avonmouth docks, for example, ending avonmouth docks where oil and goods come in there that a number of cell phone towers and services in that area so there was an issue there he would be hell to have a very specific alert and that is one of the things that is possibly particularly useful about the service. what we have seen with the announcement and alarm going off across the uk it is clear that each network was triggering that each network was triggering that at different times and each network was either slightly clicker or slightly slower than the other. we didn't oversee this alert at the same time —— quicker or slower. networks got different points and it would appear at this stage that people on the three network, many people on the three network, many people have got it at all.— people have got it at all. thank you for 'oinin: people have got it at all. thank you forjoining us- _ people have got it at all. thank you forjoining us. 20 _ people have got it at all. thank you forjoining us. 20 minutes- people have got it at all. thank you forjoining us. 20 minutes past- forjoining us. 20 minutes past three and 20 seconds before three o'clock in an emergency alert sounded up and down the uk on smartphones. this is what it sounded like. repeated long beeps. you can

sit there. this is a test the gun thatis sit there. this is a test the gun that is running introducing this new system where you can send a message in the case of disaster. just make this as a test the government is running. uk governments as it is only going to be used in situations where life is at risk. we can go back to a representative from the united nations. talk to the bit about the chain of command to send an alert like this. surely it is not just one person in the office covering the alert shift in thinking that sounds like we should send an alert. who has to sign this off? it depends on the country but usually there is legislation which will barely dictate who signs it. it is often the meteorological office that will have that responsibility but, interestingly enough, where we have seen failures of the early warning system is where that chain of command wasn't very clear where were disconnects between who had the right to send the message and then

local officials for example who were expected to act on them and didn't necessarily take the right measures and i've seen some examples of this in asian countries where i had previously worked. but every country will have to do make this decision and it should be impossible. part of the legislation so that we can avoid any mistakes being made obviously and to really ensure that the alarm is sounded with absolute authority from the government.— is sounded with absolute authority from the government. thank you very much. we from the government. thank you very much- we can — from the government. thank you very much- we can go _ from the government. thank you very much. we can go back— from the government. thank you very much. we can go back to _ from the government. thank you very much. we can go back to the - from the government. thank you very much. we can go back to the director| much. we can go back to the director of the national centre for disaster preparedness at columbia climate school. we have heard a lot about trusting the government in times of emergency but the reality is when disaster strikes there is quite a lot going on. emergency services are having to act. all sorts of things are being coordinated. you think this isjust adding are being coordinated. you think this is just adding another string to the bow? another thing that governments have to think about when really they should be focusing on

something else? it is really they should be focusing on something else?— something else? it is really important _ something else? it is really important people _ something else? it is really important people do - something else? it is really important people do have l something else? it is really _ important people do have information and it is being put out quickly and authoritative lay to the extent it can be when personal action can lead to personal safety but you bring up an important point which is trust in government and some of the day talked about earlier shows some might not be as high and opted in and it is important to note the quote, single systems that which is everybody. the system is a useful stream and a good way of reaching a lot of people all at once but at the same time there are relationships within communities and other trusted figures outside a government communities may be looking to when they do have that same level of trust so it is an important tool and i think of worthwhile resource but it is just one tool and a much more the tool box need of an effective response. the tool box need of an effective resonse. ~ ., ., ., , ., response. who are 'oining us for new york and this _ response. who are 'oining us for new york and this is — response. who are 'oining us for new york and this is a — response. who are joining us for new york and this is a test _ response. who are joining us for new york and this is a test in _ response. who are joining us for new york and this is a test in the - york and this is a test in the system open draw up and running in

the united states already. do you think you get to me alert in americawhat you think you have the right balance? the americawhat you think you have the right balance?— right balance? the national level and much. _ right balance? the national level and much, much _ right balance? the national level and much, much rarer. - right balance? the national level and much, much rarer. the - right balance? the national level| and much, much rarer. the latest right balance? the national level- and much, much rarer. the latest was and much, much rarer. the latest was a couple of years ago. do get requested, tested occasionally at a local level and that in spain the local level and that in spain the localjurisdiction. in terms of testing the system are making sure it works it seems to be somewhat sufficient —— that seems to be at a localjurisdiction. in terms of people taking proper actions we have seen there and the stakes and alerts can act as tests which were not labelled as tests so sister draw systems and processes came under scrutiny and if you look at the actions people took people did not take actions to prepare themselves as if they were v also brings into question how effectively the lights are of people are not actually taking them paying attention or take them seriously. these alerts are necessary improperly better to have a few more rather than a few less but it is striking a balance between creating familiarity and testing it and also turning people away and

annoying them is a fine line that is something of a moving target. iloathe something of a moving target. who has to si . n something of a moving target. who has to sign these _ something of a moving target. who has to sign these off in america? it depends onjurisdiction has to sign these off in america? it depends on jurisdiction and the national level has very specific news with state run system and local news with state run system and local news my colleague mentioned it varies across different nations. usually it is within the emergency management structure and usually within some sort of elected official authority and delegated authority. 0k authority and delegated authority. ok that is the director of the national centre for disaster preparedness at the columbia climate school. thank you to all our guests have joined us from school. thank you to all our guests havejoined us from up school. thank you to all our guests have joined us from up and school. thank you to all our guests havejoined us from up and down school. thank you to all our guests have joined us from up and down the world and develop this programme. we have been covering the relative uk's emergency alert system. an alarm was soundedin emergency alert system. an alarm was sounded in smartphones across britain just before 3p afternoon. testing the system, there is much more on the bbc news website. for now, thanks for watching. repeated long beeps.

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