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live from london. this is bbc news: the scramble to get out of sudan gathers pace as the country descends ino further chaos. as the fighting spills into a second week, the eu gets a thousand people out. british nationals complain they feel abandoned. police in kenya find more bodies of suspected followers of a christian cult. almost 60 bodies have now been recovered. and the former strictly head judge len goodman has died at the age of 78. welcome to bbc news. we start with the scramble to evacuate foreign nationals from sudan as intense fighting spills into a second week.
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britons trapped in the country, have talked about feeling abandoned by the uk government. we'll hear live in a moment from one british national who's just got out and hear from another who's still in khartoum. but the rush to get diplomatic staff and civilians out of sudan has gathered pace. the european union says it's managed to extract more than a thousand of its citizens, with france taking the lead in the operation. emmanuel macron said the evacuations on sunday and monday had extracted nearly 400 citizens and diplomats from the country. the dutch military have also played a role in the airlift. germany deployed three planes to move people tojordan. italy and spain have also evacuated citizens, with the spanish mission including people from argentina, colombia, ireland, portugal and poland. others are trying to leave by road, with convoys of buses and coaches heading across land to port sudan on the red sea, as well as north to the border with egypt. turkey has evacuated more
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than 600 people in 13 buses. finally, let me show some of the latest pictures from khartoum. no let up in the fighting in the densely populated capital. so far, the internatioanl push for a ceasefire has come to nothing. the british doctor, iman abu garga, was in khartoum visiting relatives when the fighting broke out and now she has been evacuated to djibouti. thank you so much for being with us thank you so much for being with us on bbc news. tell me first of all how you got out. my on bbc news. tell me first of all how you got out.— on bbc news. tell me first of all how you got out. my son is an irish national and _ how you got out. my son is an irish national and he _ how you got out. my son is an irish national and he received _ how you got out. my son is an irish national and he received an - how you got out. my son is an irish national and he received an e-mailj national and he received an e—mail in the morning to head to the french embassy in one of the areas that was very severely hit. so i decided to take him and his sister, who is not an eu citizen but is british and
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american, to try and get them to take her as well. she did not have her british paperwork on her. they very, very fortunately agreed to take me with them, so i wasjust planning on taking the children and remaining in sudan, but as it happened, they agreed to let me in. there were injured people being taken into the embassy and i told them if i am —— i am taken into the embassy and i told them ifiam ——iama taken into the embassy and i told them if i am —— i am a doctor if they needed any help, and they invited me in, and we were all extracted at the end of the day. how much help did _ extracted at the end of the day. how much help did you get from the british government, if any? we received british government, if any? - received e—mail alerts once or twice a day. it is extremely impersonal, just telling us to shelter, and that they are working on something, but there are no plans at present time. i am in a whatsapp chat group with 71 other nhs doctors who work in
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various parts of the uk. they are destitute, they are desperate, they have no way to get back to their wives, their husbands, their children. theyjust came to visit because of the end of ramadan, to festivities, and now they are trapped. they fear for their safety. there is no cash, everything has gone up in price, you can't buy any food, water has run out, no electricity, you can't charge your phone is, and what the government has done is, it sends this message, if you need psychological support, call this numberfor if you need psychological support, call this number for psychosocial support, and the number is a number in the uk. people don't have credit to make those court.— to make those court. were you expecting _ to make those court. were you expecting to — to make those court. were you expecting to get _ to make those court. were you expecting to get details - to make those court. were you expecting to get details of- to make those court. were you expecting to get details of any| to make those court. were you - expecting to get details of any sort of plan to evacuate, because i have been listening to british ministers
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during the course of the day and they have talked about the internet being down, they have talked about the obvious dangers and difficulties. in terms of an explanation, does that cut any ice with you? explanation, does that cut any ice with ou? ., ., ., . with you? not at all. when you re . ister, with you? not at all. when you register. you — with you? not at all. when you register, you are _ with you? not at all. when you register, you are supposed - with you? not at all. when you register, you are supposed to i with you? not at all. when you i register, you are supposed to give them your local number and your e—mail and also your uk number so there are different modalities to contact you. a lot of people missed being evacuated by the french yesterday because they don't have any internet. they did not receive e—mails. but there are local numbers that have been provided that they could have contacted people on and i spoke to the french consulate yesterday and he was very kind. i said to him, are you happy to take me, iam british, after brexit, are you happy to take me? and he was very kind, he said, yes, you are still with us, you are still with the eu, which i thought was very
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humane of him, but they are not making any genuine attempts to rescue these people. 0bviously, what happens in the cobra meetings, what happens in the cobra meetings, what happens behind closed doors, i am not privy to that, i am justjudging by what we received from our end. they talk about looking at every option, they also reference the fact there is no ceasefire on the ground and the added difficulty that creates. just as a final thought, tell me, how close was the fighting to you when you were inside of sudan? and in terms of the dilemma, you got out but you must know other foreign nationals who have not yet. they presumably are trying to weigh up they presumably are trying to weigh up whether to get out themselves or simply take the advice from the british government and stay inside. there were no good or bad decisions, thatis there were no good or bad decisions, that is what i kept saying to everyone who was weighing the
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options, do we stay or do we go? there are only difficult decisions to make. i hope no one ever has to make the decision i had to make. i left my dad, who needs 24—7 k, because the resources we had on the ground, the rationing that was going on, the lack of food and everything, it was better for me not to be dead than to be there, if that makes sense. in terms of —— not to be there than to be there. they are saying there is so much fighting we cannot come in, yet the european union, there were hundreds of soldiers from spain, italy, france. sweden. they coordinated an amazing mission in cooperation with the military. and no one was injured. that was a safe passage. we took a
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2.5 hour bus journey from the central of the city all the way out to a military strip and it went without a glitch. so i cannot imagine that these nations have been able to do that, the americans have been able to do that, that the british government, great britain, is not able to coordinate a mission such as this. we is not able to coordinate a mission such as this-— such as this. we have to leave it there. such as this. we have to leave it there- we _ such as this. we have to leave it there. we are _ such as this. we have to leave it there. we are very _ such as this. we have to leave it there. we are very grateful - such as this. we have to leave it there. we are very grateful for l such as this. we have to leave it. there. we are very grateful for your time. thank you for talking to us from djibouti. it is worth pointing out that we are expecting a statement from the british government in just over an hour's time. the latest in terms of their assessment of what is happening on the ground and perhaps any new details on any rescue plans. earlier in the day, ministers were talking about the turkish attempts to get people out and pointing to the fact that two of the gathering points they had established were fired upon
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yesterday. so they were making that point in earlier interviews. we will carry that statement in the house of commons alive when it happens. let's try and find out a little bit more about what is happening on the ground. live now to farid abdulkadir, from the international federation of red cross and red crescent societies. he's in nairobi. i say that you are in nairobi, you were in sudan a little while ago and just by chance you are in nairobi. tell us a little more. we just by chance you are in nairobi. tell us a little more.— tell us a little more. we had actually come _ tell us a little more. we had actually come to _ tell us a little more. we had actually come to nairobi - tell us a little more. we had| actually come to nairobi with tell us a little more. we had - actually come to nairobi with the secretary general of the sudanese red crescent. coincidentally, this is what happened on the way to sudan. i am stranded in nairobi. but we were supposed to be back by then. the secretary general was landing
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the same day, saturday, that the incident... that was the 15th of april, saturday, so the same flight was not allowed to land and it went back. she has got office space and she is able to operate and communicate to our team on the ground and coordinate from there. tell me what you are hearing from your colleagues on the ground. i think the challenge is still the same as we have been saying. because of the fighting, people are stranded in their houses with very little access to food, water, electricity and also access to health care. people are fearing because there is still gun shots outside and some of the stray bullets are hitting people's houses and damaging property and also putting people's life at risk. share
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property and also putting people's life at risk. �* , ., ., , ., life at risk. are you as an organisation, _ life at risk. are you as an organisation, as - life at risk. are you as an organisation, as aid - life at risk. are you as an - organisation, as aid workers, able to do very much distributing of aid, or are you having to keep your work is safe and also holed up somewhere? i think it is a mixture of the two. we have to make sure that the safety of our volunteers and staff is assured, but at the same time, staff and volunteers living near hospitals, they are able to support the hospitals with additional human resources will stop and, fortunately, we had drugs in our warehouse but the entire place was looted, this includes medicines, tents and other equipment that we would use, and we are trying to mobilise some more, but we are operating in around 250—300 volunteers have been mobilised, but the sudanese red crescent, they are spreading 18 branches, they have over 400,000 volunteers that have
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been trained and they can easily mobilise over 40,000 volunteers from all 18 states and any village in sudan. that has not been totally activated. however, we are providing some but to a limited extent. more can be done. i some but to a limited extent. more can be done-— can be done. i was reading one account from _ can be done. i was reading one account from a _ can be done. i was reading one account from a doctor - can be done. i was reading one account from a doctor in - can be done. i was reading one . account from a doctor in khartoum and he was saying they expected to be shot, such were the danger is all around them. what are you hearing in terms of the latest in terms of hospitals being able to actually operate to continue with the lack of medicines, the lack of power? the health medicines, the lack of power? iia: health workers medicines, the lack of power? tia: health workers are medicines, the lack of power? ti2 health workers are staying in communities. they have to go from their houses to the health centres, or they sleep in the health centres, so they are at risk of being shot themselves. to the hospital facilities, because the fighting is presenting a lot of challenges, some of the hospitals are damaged, but
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most of all the electricity is being disconnected, rationed, and some places are totally off, their water supply has been disrupted, so with water supply and electricity, they are trying to run on generators, the fuel is becoming a challenge, and day by day the situation will get worse. the health workers are doing their best. you have seen sudanese coming out more than any time to help sudanese who are in need. this country is based on the kindness of the people and they have demonstrated it, but at the same time, there is less and less as we go along. but they are trying with a little resources and the little they have in sharing and providing these services, but the question is, how long can this be sustained if you don't get additional support and additional supplies? don't get additional support and additionalsupplies? most don't get additional support and additional supplies? most important, access, the humanitarian corridor. thank you so much forjoining us. i want to show you the live pictures
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from the un because the secretary general has been talking in the last little while. .. general has been talking in the last little while... let me tell you what he has been saying. the sudan conflict could engulf the whole region. also making it clear that un staff have relocated hundreds of staff have relocated hundreds of staff members from khartoum and other locations in sudan. reiterating the call on parties to immediately end hostilities and allow the civilian evacuations to take place. antonio guterres talking they are. he has moved slightly away from that topic so we will continue to listen and return to the un and get more on that in the next little while. let's speak to clement sefa—nyarko, a lecturer in security, development and leadership in africa, at king's college london. thank you for being on the programme. when you look at the situation on the ground, we are into
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the second week of fighting, the international community keeps talking about ceasefires but the reality on the ground is that both of these sides think they can win this militarily, don't they? yes. this militarily, don't they? yes, that is the _ this militarily, don't they? yes, that is the sad _ this militarily, don't they? yes, that is the sad side _ this militarily, don't they? yes, that is the sad side of— this militarily, don't they? yes, that is the sad side of the - this militarily, don't they? i2: that is the sad side of the story. it baffles my mind that such brutality happens. even by people who only a few months ago, a few years ago, took power, claiming to be protecting the interests of the sudanese. but again, the question of whether each of them is confident, it is something we need to keep on the table. but as an observer of african political history and politics, it is not surprising that they believe they could win this war because it is the nature of the
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relationship between the state and society, it is so tilted that whoever gets to power believes that they could trample upon the liberties and rights of people and still get away with it. that is really the point. in still get away with it. that is really the point.— still get away with it. that is reall the oint. , ., really the point. in terms of those who have the _ really the point. in terms of those who have the most _ really the point. in terms of those who have the most leverage, - really the point. in terms of those i who have the most leverage, would that be? who should we be looking towards that potentially can actually make progress in terms of a truce? ~ ., , , ., truce? whoever wins this war, will be able to lead _ truce? whoever wins this war, will be able to lead the _ truce? whoever wins this war, will be able to lead the conversation, i be able to lead the conversation, but i think we need to look at it from the perspective of who should exert the power, the influence, to make them yield or come to the negotiating table. i look at it from
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two perspectives. in the long shot, members of civil society need to mobilise and make it an attractive for any of them to continue to commit the atrocities they are committing, but i think from the international community perspective, international community perspective, in terms of civil society, that is a long—time struggle, you need to make sure politicians and people with power are able to respect people and decide to act in a responsible way. in the meantime, the community need to step in, but i don't think the us or uk would have a lot of leveraged at this point. we need to look at the original east african community. they have been influential in the region in the past few years. we will be looking to see if it is influential in the coming days. we have to leave it there but thank you for joining have to leave it there but thank you forjoining us. i showed you the pictures from new york and the un
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secretary—general, he has been now moving to talk about the war in ukraine and the multilateral efforts that are being made in that huge challenge. we must find a way forward and act now as _ we must find a way forward and act now as we — we must find a way forward and act now as we have ten before to stop the slide _ now as we have ten before to stop the slide towards chaos and conflict _ the slide towards chaos and conflict. it is time to live in cooperation to find common solutions to common _ cooperation to find common solutions to common challenges. members of this council, particularly those that enjoy the privilege of serving permanently, have a particular responsibility to make multilateralism work rather than contribute with dismemberment. competition between states is inevitable, but that should not rule out cooperation way shared interests and the _ out cooperation way shared interests and the greater good are at stake. when _ and the greater good are at stake. when competition escalates to confrontation, the multilateral system — confrontation, the multilateral system founded on the charter of international law is the most effective _ international law is the most effective means to manage this peacefully. we must cooperate. we
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must _ peacefully. we must cooperate. we must adapt multilateral institutions and foster trust where it is most needed — and foster trust where it is most needed and the urgency of global challenges demand is both an swift action— challenges demand is both an swift action and — challenges demand is both an swift action and i thank you. talking _ action and i thank you. talking about multilateral challenges. he started by talking about what is happening in sudan and ended up talking about the war in ukraine and telling the security council meeting, which is chaired by russia at the moment, that the invasion of ukraine was causing massive suffering and devastation. that is the latest from the un in new york. around the world and across the uk, you are watching bbc news. vandals poured salt over the food she was going to give to people in need. but she is bouncing back.
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although she can't deliver food from the allotments, she is still making parcels to give to the vulnerable with the help of her driver, david. this delivery is for salary —— sally who has multiple health conditions and found out last week she had been rejected for a double lung transplant. her condition is now terminal. it makes it hard for her to do shopping. she terminal. it makes it hard for her to do shopping-— terminal. it makes it hard for her to do shopping. she has helped so much people _ to do shopping. she has helped so much people and _ to do shopping. she has helped so much people and that _ to do shopping. she has helped so much people and that is _ to do shopping. she has helped so much people and that is not - to do shopping. she has helped so much people and that is notjust . much people and that is notjust giving people thing is, it is her whole attitude.— giving people thing is, it is her whole attitude. sanity is one of around 1600 — whole attitude. sanity is one of around 1600 people _ whole attitude. sanity is one of around 1600 people fed - whole attitude. sanity is one of around 1600 people fed by - whole attitude. sanity is one of around 1600 people fed by the| around 1600 people fed by the initiative —— sally. and since her post on the allotment went viral on social media, donations page has reached almost £250,000. although somethina reached almost £250,000. although something really _ reached almost £250,000. although something really nasty _ reached almost £250,000. although something really nasty happened, i reached almost £250,000. although i something really nasty happened, you have got— something really nasty happened, you have got to _ something really nasty happened, you have got to make it a positive. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news.
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to kenya now, where police have recovered 58 bodies, believed to be members of a cult who were told they would go to heaven if they starved themselves to death. the bodies have been found a forest near the coastal town of ma—lindi. date in terms of the numbers of people that they have actually found so far and a bit more about what the president has been saying. tatiana;t so far and a bit more about what the president has been saying. today was the fourth day — president has been saying. today was the fourth day of _ president has been saying. today was the fourth day of the _ president has been saying. today was the fourth day of the exercise - president has been saying. today was the fourth day of the exercise and - the fourth day of the exercise and we understand that 26 more bodies have been retrieved or exhumed from shallow graves. we also understand that eight people were found alive. six women and two men. this brings
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the tally to 73 people found dead in shallow graves in this area. the area is two hours from here and not just the president calling the actions of the cult leader as terrorism, we have also seen the inspector general of police say that pastor mckenzie will have to answer to charges of radicalisation and terrorism as well. we to charges of radicalisation and terrorism as well.— to charges of radicalisation and terrorism as well. ~ . ~ , ., terrorism as well. we are keeping an e e on terrorism as well. we are keeping an eye on that — terrorism as well. we are keeping an eye on that story _ terrorism as well. we are keeping an eye on that story that _ terrorism as well. we are keeping an eye on that story that is _ terrorism as well. we are keeping an eye on that story that is developing i eye on that story that is developing all the while. all of the details are horrifying. thank you very much for the details. could we turn handwritten records of extreme weather of the past into modern models that help us track climate change? a group of reserachers have just done that, comparing storms going back more than 100 years. their study focuses on storm ulysses — a ferocious event in the uk in 1903. 0n re—analysing records of it, they've been able to paint a much clearer picture,
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of its hurricane—force winds. live now to our science correspondentjonathan amos. this is a really fascinating story. take me through it. taste this is a really fascinating story. take me through it.— this is a really fascinating story. take me through it. we have been collectin: take me through it. we have been collecting weather _ take me through it. we have been collecting weather data, _ take me through it. we have been| collecting weather data, obviously, for a few centuries now. pretty consistently in the uk and also in what is now ireland, because we are talking about 1903 before partition, and that data is available to us to examine the past, what exactly happened. the problem is that it is all written down in bits of paper, in books, and to put it in a supercomputer like they have today to make the daily forecasts, you have to put it in a computed friendly format, so they have had volunteers take all these handwritten tables that record temperature, pressure, rainfall, sunshine, all that kind of thing, and put them into spreadsheets that
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can be put into supercomputers, and then the big computer can crunch through it and really understand how a storm works. back in 1902, storm ulysses, because it gets a mention in the famous novel by the irish writerjames joyce, and in the famous novel by the irish writerjamesjoyce, and what in the famous novel by the irish writerjames joyce, and what they have shown is that the winds in this storm are as strong as anything that we have seen in the last 50—60 years. if you look at that modern period that we have very good data or, this storm was just as ferocious. or, this storm was 'ust as ferocious. �* , ., ferocious. and in terms of the applications — ferocious. and in terms of the applications going _ ferocious. and in terms of the applications going forward, i ferocious. and in terms of the i applications going forward, what ferocious. and in terms of the - applications going forward, what are they envisaging? you have these bits of fragments of data, billions of pieces of paper around the world link to weather events, so how do they think it can be used more generally? ii they think it can be used more generally?— they think it can be used more renerall ? , , ., generally? if we see extremes today, and obviously —
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generally? if we see extremes today, and obviously we _ generally? if we see extremes today, and obviously we do, _ generally? if we see extremes today, and obviously we do, we _ generally? if we see extremes today, and obviously we do, we need - generally? if we see extremes today, and obviously we do, we need to - generally? if we see extremes today, and obviously we do, we need to be i and obviously we do, we need to be able to put them in context to understand just how extreme they are. the only way we can do that if you have dense historic data as well to give you that context. and then perhaps you can make some remarks about what might happen in the future. the atmosphere, as we know, it is heating up, getting more energetic. with some of these older storms, if they existed today, would you have stronger winds? would you have more rainfall in them? probably you would. those are the kinds of investigations you can do with this data. and we are going to see an awful lot of it. billions of data points all round the world in little bits of paper and in great tones, dusty tomes on shelves. if we can turnit dusty tomes on shelves. if we can turn it into computers, we can make some very interesting discoveries indeed. ., .,
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some very interesting discoveries indeed. ., ,, , ., some very interesting discoveries indeed. ., . ., ., indeed. thank you so much, jonathan amos. indeed. thank you so much, jonathan amos- when — indeed. thank you so much, jonathan amos- when we _ indeed. thank you so much, jonathan amos. when we are _ indeed. thank you so much, jonathan amos. when we are back, _ indeed. thank you so much, jonathan amos. when we are back, we - indeed. thank you so much, jonathan amos. when we are back, we will. indeed. thank you so much, jonathan i amos. when we are back, we will have the latest on sudan, that exodus across the border heading to egypt. we have got a cold snap of weather on the way certainly for the first half of this week, so gardeners and growers take note because we are likely to see overnight frost. today, a chilly feeling day and we will see showers and longer spells of rain. northern parts of the country will see sunny spells and scattered showers. there will be some sleet and snow over the higher ground. england and wales generally cloudy. 0utbreaks ground. england and wales generally cloudy. outbreaks of rain pushing south eastwards across southern england. temperatures between five in the final full scotland and the low teens in the south. but they fall away quite quickly through tonight. you can see the blue colour is extended across most areas, so a fairly widespread frost for the end of april. down to —4 across parts of
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scotland and the far north of england. it will be a cold and frosty stand for many for tuesday morning but dry and bright, plenty of sunshine around. any mist and fog clearing and it stays fine and sunny throughout the day for most, but we will continue to see showers peppering northern and eastern coasts. some sleet and snow over the mountains. temperatures will recover across the south into the low teens, single figures in the north, and it will feel cold for the time of year. as we head into the middle part of the week, subtle change. these weather fronts in the atlantic will try to start to push their way into southern and western areas, introducing more cloud. there could be a few bursts of rain as well in the south. 0ne be a few bursts of rain as well in the south. one or two showers further north. generally drier across scotland with that area of high pressure. and a cool but chilly feel to things, between nine and 12
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degrees. 0n feel to things, between nine and 12 degrees. on thursday, that milder air slowly pushes northwards and eastwards. a slow process but it looks like england, wales and northern ireland will see thicker cloud. much of scotland, the very far north, will tend to stay dry and quite cold. a little bit of brightness but variable cloud as well. temperatures recovering across the south. still quite cold in the north. but the mild eight days when out into the weekend and with the weather fronts nearby, out into the weekend and with the weatherfronts nearby, it could be fairly unsettled with cloud and rain at times too.
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life in london, this is bbc news. the head of the un warns the sudan conflict could engulf the whole of east africa region, the scramble to get civilians out of the country continues. as the fighting spilled into a second week, the eu gets more than 1000 people out, but british nationals complained they feel abandoned. police and can you find more bodies of suspected followers of a cult. almost 60 have now been recovered. and two weeks before the coronation, a new bbc poll suggests less than a third of young adults in the uk want the monarchy to continue. all of those stories in a moment or
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two. let's round up the sport, first. let head

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