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live from washington, this is bbc news. sudan's warring forces start a 72—hour ceasefire after days of intense negotiations. russia's foreign minister faces the un security council i speak to us ambassador to the un, linda thomas—greenfield. and we speak to two of the tennessee three after they meet with president biden to discuss gun control. hello. we start in sudan, where a three—day ceasefire between two rival military groups has come into effect to to allow people to be evacuated, but there are concerns that it may not hold. this as more countries
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are evacuating their diplomats and citizens — this is a member of the dutch military handing out earplugs as they get ready to take off. and this was the scene as the spanish defence ministry helped evacuees get on their plane. we go live now to kalkidan yibetal in the ethiopian capital, addis ababa. what is happening in khartoum at the moment, is the ceasefire holding? at the moment, is the ceasefire holdin: ? ~ ., , holding? well, for the past 24 hours, holding? well, for the past 24 hours. we _ holding? well, for the past 24 hours, we have _ holding? well, for the past 24 hours, we have seen - holding? well, for the past 24 hours, we have seen a - holding? well, for the past 24 i hours, we have seen a decreased degree of fighting, which allowed quite a number of countries to evacuate their citizens. and now with the announcement of this three—day truce between the armed forces and the rapid forces paramilitary group, there is a hope that more and more countries can move out their nationals, their embassy staff from sudan, from khartoum, as well as many sudanese people
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trapped in this violence, who could use that opportunity to increase their food stocks, try to move away from conflict zones and be in safer areas, as well as transporting those people who require medical support. so there are hopes, but it's not the first time there is such a ceasefire. previously they did not hold. so there were also concerns now. ., ., ., now. you mentioned there have been foreign — now. you mentioned there have been foreign evacuations, - now. you mentioned there have been foreign evacuations, but i been foreign evacuations, but what about the sudanese still in khartoum, what is the situation they are facing right now? , ., ., , now? the situation is dire, with each _ now? the situation is dire, with each day _ now? the situation is dire, with each day the - now? the situation is dire, with each day the violence| with each day the violence goes, the humanitarian situation is worse. it looks like the sudanese people are bracing for a really bleak
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situation. on top of that, with increased violence, the number of casualties is likely to grow. with all foreign nationals moving out from the country, maybe sudanese people feel the violence could become more and more intense. there are fears and concerns that things could get even worse. thank you for giving us that update. ukraine is keeping track and accusing russia of serious war crimes. and the president of their supreme court, vsevolod knieziev, wants to prosecute them. on monday, he met with us supreme court chief justicejohn roberts. and on tuesday, he will meet with attorney general merrick garland. he's discussing ways the us can support ukraine's efforts to investigate and prosecute russia president vladimir putin and the thousands of war crimes committed during the russian invasion.
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kniazievjoined me earlier to discuss those meetings. welcome to our show. you discussed with the us chief justice john discussed with the us chief justicejohn roberts today, what came out of your discussion? what help is the us offering? we discussion? what help is the us offerin: ? ~ ., ~ discussion? what help is the us offerinu? ~ . ~ ., offering? we talked about accountability _ offering? we talked about accountability of _ offering? we talked about accountability of the - offering? we talked about i accountability of the russian federation for atrocities it has done in ukraine. we spoke about the immunity of russian president putin and the legal perspectives for bringing him to accountability for the war crimes which were done in the territory of ukraine by russian forces. ~ ., ., , . forces. what was the chief justice's — forces. what was the chief justice's perspective - forces. what was the chief justice's perspective on i forces. what was the chief i justice's perspective on that kind ofjustice? it justice's perspective on that kind ofjustice?_ kind ofjustice? it is a difficult _ kind ofjustice? it is a difficult situation, - kind ofjustice? it is a difficult situation, we | kind ofjustice? it is a . difficult situation, we are both chiefjustices, and we can discuss, but speaking about this case it may be judges will try those cases and adjudicate them, so ijust cannot tell everything what we have discussed. {iii everything what we have discussed.— everything what we have discussed. , , discussed. of course. is there
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something — discussed. of course. is there something the _ discussed. of course. is there something the us _ discussed. of course. is there something the us can - discussed. of course. is there something the us can do - discussed. of course. is there something the us can do to l something the us can do to help, though? something the us can do to help. though?— something the us can do to help, though? certainly. first create an _ help, though? certainly. first create an ad _ help, though? certainly. first create an ad hoc _ help, though? certainly. first create an ad hoc tribunal - help, though? certainly. first create an ad hoc tribunal for i create an ad hoc tribunal for bringing to account vladimir in for the crime of aggression. right now there is no international body which can bring him to accountability. ukraine of course cannot do it because vladimir putin has immunity as the head of a state, personal immunity, and the international criminal court also cannot do it because russia haven't signed the rome statute. second, there is the international criminal court, it has nojurisdiction international criminal court, it has no jurisdiction over the crime of aggression. and the crime of aggression. and the crime of aggression is the mother of all war crimes. and it seems like now that if a leader of any country will start an aggressive war, in other country, there will be no mechanism to bring him to accountability. and this i think it is not a good
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situation.— think it is not a good situation. ., situation. so you are saying ou situation. so you are saying you have — situation. so you are saying you have no _ situation. so you are saying you have no avenue, - situation. so you are saying you have no avenue, no - you have no avenue, no international body you can turn to? ., �* , international body you can turn to? . �*, ., �*, , to? that's right, that's why we need to create _ to? that's right, that's why we need to create a _ to? that's right, that's why we need to create a special- to? that's right, that's why we need to create a special ad - to? that's right, that's why we | need to create a special ad hoc tribunal for the crime of aggression. tribunalfor the crime of aggression. and that tribunal will bring tojustice aggression. and that tribunal will bring to justice putin and his allies. will bring to 'ustice putin and his allies. ., will bring to 'ustice putin and his allies.— will bring to 'ustice putin and his allies. ., i , , , his allies. how much support is there for that _ his allies. how much support is there for that kind _ his allies. how much support is there for that kind of— his allies. how much support is there for that kind of idea? - there for that kind of idea? all the european union support this idea and most of the countries of europe, so we need the support of the us right now. ~ ., ., , ., ., ., now. who would be on that ad hoc tribunal? _ now. who would be on that ad hoc tribunal? judges - now. who would be on that ad hoc tribunal? judges from - hoc tribunal? judges from different _ hoc tribunal? judges from different countries, - hoc tribunal? judges from different countries, who l hoc tribunal? judges from i different countries, who will bring to responsibility putin and his allies and ministers. to talk about your justice system, ukraine has registered 80,000 war crimes committed by russian forces. how does your judicial system planned to prosecute so many crimes? in prosecute so many crimes? i�*i ukraine, we introduced the procedure of hearing in absentia, which means a person can be convicted in court
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without personal presence in the courtroom. we are talking about russian soldiers who have done atrocities, killing civilians, raping women, so they are brought to justice in absentia. if they are personally in ukraine, like their captives, they are found guilty, they are convicted, then they are exchanged for ukrainian soldiers. if they are not personally in ukraine, they are adjudicated and convicted in absentia, and they are just like criminals after that. gathering the evidence and going through such a process is long, so how realistic is it to prosecute these crimes. fiur prosecute these crimes. our international— prosecute these crimes. oi" international partners help a lot. there is an international team of prosecutors who collect evidence. prosecutors from different cultures help us, we
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have a very good team of prosecutors to collect the evidence. i prosecutors to collect the evidence-— prosecutors to collect the evidence. ., ., ., , ., evidence. i want to ask you about something _ evidence. i want to ask you about something we - evidence. i want to ask you about something we had i evidence. i want to ask you i about something we had from evidence. i want to ask you - about something we had from the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov who spoke to the un today, heading to new york this week we understand. translation: ~ ., ., , translation: washington and its allies are refusing _ translation: washington and its allies are refusing diplomacy - allies are refusing diplomacy to resolve the disputes on the battlefield. it's all happening within the un, which was created to prevent the horrors of war. ~ ., ., ,, ~' created to prevent the horrors ofwar. ~ ., ., ~ ., of war. what do you think of that statement? _ of war. what do you think of that statement? it - of war. what do you think of that statement? it is - of war. what do you think of that statement? it is very i that statement? it is very hypocritical. _ that statement? it is very hypocritical. the - that statement? it is very hypocritical. the russianl hypocritical. the russian federation starts an aggressive war and then blames other countries. put in the war, when in the un, russia blocks any initiative to stop the war. so it just sounds very strange. d0 itjust sounds very strange. do ou itjust sounds very strange. do you have _ it just sounds very strange. do you have faith in international bodies like the un? russia right now presiding over the un security council.— security council. right, and it can block— security council. right, and it can block any _ security council. right, and it can block any decision - can block any decision according to this war, so it's
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not a normal situation. 50 according to this war, so it's not a normal situation. so what is the avenue _ not a normal situation. so what is the avenue you _ not a normal situation. so what is the avenue you see - not a normal situation. so what is the avenue you see going - is the avenue you see going forward, working with the un and the us and your partners to reach the justice you were talking about?— talking about? the international - talking about? the i international criminal talking about? the - international criminal court issued a warrant to arrest putin for his crimes but it's not enough. he should be brought to accountability for his crimes, so we should work altogether, the democratic countries, because it's not just an issue for ukraine and russia. it's an issue for the whole democratic world. when a leader starts an aggressive war in the 21st century and there is no responsibility or mechanism for responsibility for this leader, another leader will start it again in several years. we should think about an international mechanism for bringing those leaders, those dictators to responsibility. and tomorrow you meet the us attorney general merrick garland, what do you hope to achieve? ~ ., garland, what do you hope to achieve? ~ . , , ., ,, ., achieve? we are speaking about the war crimes _ achieve? we are speaking about the war crimes and _ achieve? we are speaking about the war crimes and the - achieve? we are speaking about
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the war crimes and the supportl the war crimes and the support of the united states in investigating war crimes and bringing criminals who committed those crimes to responsibility.— responsibility. president of the supreme _ responsibility. president of the supreme court - responsibility. president of the supreme court of- responsibility. president of. the supreme court of ukraine, thank you for being with us. stand with ukraine, thank you. turning to the un, the russian foreign minister chaired a contentious security council meeting on monday, during which the un secretary general accused the nation of inflicting great suffering through its invasion of ukraine. the us, france and britain were among the nations condemning russia for its waragainst ukraine, saying it struck at the heart of the un charter. mr lavrov, chairing as the current head of the council that rotates monthly, said no—one had appointed the west to speak for all humankind. the us ambassador to the united nations linda thomas greenfield was in the chamber as russia's foreign minister was speaking. i spoke to her earlier. i want to ask you about what russian foreign minister sergei lavrov�*s
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comments today. translation: as was the case in the cold war, we have - reached a dangerous, possibly even more dangerous threshold. the situation has been worsened by the loss of and faith in multilateralism. what do you make of that? if there is any loss of trust in multilateralism, it is russia's fault. we are dealing with some really critical issues. a pandemic, climate change. issues of war and peace. and right at that point, russia invades one of its smaller neighbours. just really challenging the entire foundation of the un charter. challenging all the values that we have all worked on since the founding of the united nations. so if this is an issue for the russians, they are responsible for creating that issue. their hypocrisy today
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was unbelievable. the fact of them calling for a discussion of multilateralism, when they have taken such an aggressive unilateral action as to attack one of their neighbours. observers there at the un see his speech as a direct provocation of the west. how do you deal with that type of provocation? they didn'tjust provoke the west, they provoked the entire un system. they provoked every single member state. and i still think it's important for us to point out that 141 countries condemn their actions. and they heard all 14 members of the security council, in different ways, stand up for the values of the un charter, and condemn their actions as being actions that bring into question
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their own commitment to multilateralism, their own commitment to the un system. their unprovoked aggression against ukraine can't be justified. it can't be put in front of us as a defence of multilateralism. what russia needs to do is pull their troops out of ukraine. and end this war. you accuse russia of violating international law by wrongfully detaining americans, so you called for the release of the wall streetjournal reporter and the ex—marine, and you invited his family to that session today. are you making any attempt to speak to sergei lavrov about these two americans? the secretary of state has spoken to him and i have spoken to my counterpart in new york, their permanent representative, and raised this at that level.
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i have no plans to meet with lavrov, but he knows our position. and he heard my statement loudly and clearly today in the council. the un security council is supposed to prevent wars like the one we're seeing now. it is a failure of the body that russia has already invaded a country before, with crimea, and can invade another and also preside over this body? it's shaken the confidence of the member states in the council, but the council continues to function. we are continuing to deal with peace and security issues across the globe. we will be meeting tomorrow on the situation in sudan. we have addressed the situation in libya. we met last week on the situation in yemen. so the council functions. in spite of russia's
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unprovoked attack on ukraine. but certainly what they are doing has made the world look at the council in a different way. and it's really impressed upon us how important upon us how important it is to look at security council reform. and to really evolve the security council to take into account the issues of peace and security that we are facing today. many of them different from what we faced almost 80 years ago, when the un was created. what kind of reform would prevent one of the permanent members from invading another country? first and foremost, we need to make the council more representative of the world. so right now, there are no african permanent representatives on the council. no—one from latin america as a permanent representative on the council. so to expand the council
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and make it more representative is one of the things that we would certainly look to do. you mentioned latin america. we know sergei lavrov, previous to his trip to new york, travelled through south and central america, including cuba. are you concerned about russia's influence in the region? we know what russia are trying their best to get as many countries on their side as possible. but the truth of the matter is only five countries have consistently supported russia in the resolutions that brought before the general assembly. so they are in a minority community, and they are fighting to bring more people into their sphere, and they are failing at that effort.
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sojeff is one of the lucky ones. operating a scooter would have been unthinkable without one, training a new puppy now a walk in the park. you're live with bbc news. a group of tennessee lawmakers known as the tennessee three met with president biden and vice president harris in the oval office today to discuss gun control. it comes three weeks after representatives justin jones and justin pearson were expelled by a republican—led legislature for protesting gun violence on the house floor. they were then reappointed on a temporary basis. a third white lawmaker who protested, gloria johnson, narrowly surivived expulsion. and today, the president reaffirmed his support of them. what the republican legislature did was shocking, it was undemocratic, and it was without precedent. turning it around very quickly... look, we passed the most significant gun laws in the past 30 years.
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more to do. i spoke to the two previously expelled members earlier. how was the meeting with the president? we talked about gun violence as a moral issue. we talked about how we need to act in extraordinary ways to protect our kids. it was a productive meeting, we came not on behalf of ourselves but on behalf of the people in our state the majority of whom support gun laws. but also democracy. those are the issues and it was a productive meeting. i think it was a productive meeting and we talked a lot about it being a moment in time and a movement of people, especially young people in tennessee and across the country demanding that people in elected positions do something out of the ordinary, that over 70% of americans agree with, make sure
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there is a ban on assault weapons, background protections and red flag laws. the movement of young people creating change. i understand you wanted to ask the president to make gun violence a public health emergency. did you ask and is it something the president is going to do? we have had more mass shootings in america shootings in america than days, it's a uniquely american problem. he sponsored an assault weapons ban when he was in the senate. we have to use this moment to continue the momentum and do something to elevate the issue and force a conversation, to use what we have in our hands to enact change, because we face a crisis in the us that no other country faces. president biden said he has done everything he can, so what do you expect him to do?
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we are fortunate for the support of the white house on gun violence, using executive orders to promote this issue and realising that these tragedies that we have in nashville, kentucky, this doesn't have to be the way things are. as we look ahead, we are still expecting and hopeful that the white house is going to use their authority and their power to help move forward and advance the conversations around the end of gun violence. not as a democratic issue, but as an issue all americans care about, because we all want to protect kids over guns, we want to make kids safe at school and make sure banks don't become places where shoot—out happen with the police. it is support to build this movement and listen to the voice of young people to protect communities across the country. you mentioned earlier that you wanted what happened in tennessee to be a movement, but also that tennessee could serve as a model for the rest of the country. what do you expect? your governor is going to hold a legislative session on gun violence, what do you expect
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the legislature to pass with gun control? it is significant is that we have an nra endorsed governor supporting a special session on gun laws. it is because we listen to the demands of our community and called for a special session. it would be extreme for us to do nothing. another shooting in nashville that took the lives of three children and three adults. we have a government supportive of red flag laws but we need to support... this is a uniquely american problem to have these mass shootings time and again. have any of your republican colleagues shown any movement? there are republicans who want red flag laws are passed and support the governor's bill in its current form. we know a special session will help republicans running
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the legislature more like a mob than a democracy, it will help that people are watching to see us past pass the just reforms. there were republicans supportive of what the governor is seeking to do and we believe more people show up across our state will be able to pass more just laws. after being expelled you are both back as temporary representatives. how have you been received by your republican colleagues? we have dealt with similar issues as before. we have an institution all about white supremacy and the patriarchy and voices, that has not changed and our work and present it to do that. we are not there to make friends, we are there to make change. we represent 78,000 people, it is an issue in our state and we fight for our constituents and make sure the children in our district can be children
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and flourish and thrive. you have had a busy last few weeks with everything that happened. how has it been to go from legislating on a local level for your constituents to becoming national figures? i think this is a big moment. the vice president said sometimes people rise to the moment. we are both young. we are the youngest black lawmakers in our state. we come from a community in tennessee where people have a movement to transform america before in the civil rights movement. we are building a multi racial multi—generational coalition and we know this is bigger than us. if we are successful in tennessee, it sets a model for the nation to value the lives of our children over guns. that is exactly right, this is about the people we represent. it was my classmate who was killed by gun violence earlier this year, people whose voices are being elevated on an international
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level, whose demands for change sent us to the state legislature and sent us to the floor as well, and in this moment at this time it is a movement of people who keep showing up and speaking up regardless of what told them not to, we are a part of it, we are notjust leaders in the state house, in our legislature, we are members of this movement alongside folks advocating forjustice and change unfortunate to be a part of it. and fortunate to be a part of it. last question, you are advocating for change. can you move things forward? this generation is going to be a force to be reckoned with, and young people are leading the protests. saying, we want to live in a different america. that gives me hope and it forces my colleagues to act and call a special session. it is a movement being led by young people and that gives me hope. the paradigms is shifting.
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i am eternally optimistic. thank you so much. stay with us here on bbc news. hello there. very few places on monday had a completely dry day and temperatures struggled to get into double figures. we've seen the colder air down from the arctic move down that's firmly in place right now. there are some weather fronts trying to push up from the south—west, but most of the showers that we had earlier on are getting drawn away into the north sea as that low pressure heads towards scandinavia. so as the showers die away, skies are clearing, and with the winds lighter, temperatures are falling quite sharply. it'll be a cold start to tuesday. lowest temperatures, scotland and northern ireland, —4 or —5 celsius. so, a frosty start for much of the country on tuesday. but it should be a bright and sunny one. as is quite typical for this time of the year, through the morning, as temperatures rise, the cloud will bubble up. in the afternoon, it
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spreads out and it becomes increasingly cloudy. very few showers around, mind you, most of them in the north of scotland — again, a touch wintry over the hills — but the winds are a lot lighter here and we'll have light winds elsewhere as well. those temperatures ranging from 7 degrees in northern scotland to only 12 celsius in the south—east of england. so colder weather is in place, these weather fronts trying to move up from the south—west, making very little progress. we are going to see more cloud coming in overnight into wednesday, so the frost is going to be more limited to scotland and northern england. and here, there may well be some sunshine for a while on wednesday, so too northern ireland, but again the cloud will build up, we'll see a few more showers breaking out, mainly across northern england. further south, wales, the midlands and southern england look pretty cloudy. quite a dull day. bit misty over the hills in the south—west, and the clouds thick enough to give a few spots of light rain or drizzle. and those temperatures not really changing very much into wednesday. there is some milder air, as i say, trying to come in from the south—west, but it's making very slow progress, pushing away that
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cold air that we've drawn down from the arctic. and it looks like whilst there could be some sunshine around for a while across northern areas, again, the cloud will increase and it's looking pretty dull further south. the cloud thickening in the south—west to bring with it some outbreaks of rain, into south—west england and south wales. those temperatures creeping up but only by a degree or two. it will be a cold start to this week, a chilly week ahead, certainly, with those early frosts around, before the cloud comes in, limiting the frost, lifting the temperatures just a little bit, but bringing with it later in the week the chance of some rain.
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