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live from london, this is bbc news. countdown to the end of the sudan's ceasefire with hours to go, country scrambling to get their citizens out. britons trapped in the country continue to arrive in cyprus. the british government is urging people to get out while they can. here in cyprus we are told to expect more planes bringing hundreds of people to safety from sudan in the hours ahead. the bridges government unveils tougher rules on gambling companies to tackle smartphone problem batting. the former us television hostjerry springer, known for is raucous talk shows, has died at the age of 79.
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welcome to bbc news. we start in sudan, where the 72—hour ceasefire is in its final hours. the uk foreign secretary told the bbc that now is the time for people to move. it's totally unclear what happens after the midnight deadline local time — efforts continue to extend the truce. the uk operation, with round the clock flights, has so far evacuated 536 british nationals. many have been speaking about the nightmare of the last few days and the perils of the escape. the flights are only one way people are getting out. thousands more, sudanese and otherforeign nationals, have got to saudia arabia by boat. many others by road to the borders with egypt and djibouti. throughout the next crucial hours, we'll try to establish what is happening on the ground, whether the ceasefire can be extended, look at the exodus of people, and talk to some
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of those left behind. let me bring you the latest from number 10 downing street. rishi sunak�*s spokesman saying britain's ambassador is speaking to the warring parties in sudan and urging of the extension to the ceasefire. the americans, the british ambassador all trying to talk to the various parties in sudan and to get that ceasefire extended. let's go to cyprus. as those diplomatic efforts continue, everyone watching the clock and working out what happens when we get to the end of the deadline. . , ., ~ when we get to the end of the deadline. . , . ~ u, , deadline. that is a ride. a couple hours ago _ deadline. that is a ride. a couple hours ago i _ deadline. that is a ride. a couple hours ago i was _ deadline. that is a ride. a couple hours ago i was on _ deadline. that is a ride. a couple hours ago i was on the _ deadline. that is a ride. a couple hours ago i was on the tarmac i deadline. that is a ride. a couplei hours ago i was on the tarmac on deadline. that is a ride. a couple - hours ago i was on the tarmac on the run right to see the latest plane
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growing around 150 people to safety out of sudan to safety in cyprus, before they get another flight and head onto the uk. this is a real herb of the operation to get british nationals out. hours left until that ceasefire ends, seven hours also. what happens? we don't know, but we do know we are told to continue to expect planes to leave khartoum, come here until that deadline. if, however, there are a number of options that happen, either an extension or potentially it expires but the conditions are still workable, we are told from sources that as long as the conditions on the grounds are allowing the operation to continue, they could well continue even if the ceasefire formally breaks up. if conditions
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change, that is a different issue. the message from the british government, if you are a uk national and are still in khartoum and you want to get out, it is worth making a journey from where ever you are to that airfield 20 miles also north to meet those uk military planes and get out to safety. let's listen to the foreign secretary. the people that we have been speaking to have got to the air base in good order. it is distressing, of course, but they are getting there in good order. we encourage people to do so now. we have flights available, we have capacity available, but none of us can know what will happen when the ceasefire comes to an end late tonight. as to the specific numbers, we aren't getting regular drip feeds of exact numbers of people getting out and arriving here. we will get an update later and will bring it to
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you. if you think it was 500 yesterday evening, hundreds have been incensed, and around 2000 people expressing interest to leave the country in this way. that is surely a number many will want to get to. the process, what they do after is they go to the airport, a functioning and normal airport, so plenty of people on their normal holidays. the crucial step for those people is to get in here. the way they arrive, you may have seen the pictures from earlier, is they arrive in coaches like this one. these are just normal holiday—makers, but the coaches come here and then they head into the airport, check—in, get on the chartered flights and head back to the uk. it is a surreal sight because you have all holiday—makers
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wheeling their suitcases, happily travelling, and also checking in them, these extraordinary people with difficult and dangerous journeys from sudan just a few hours before. we journeys from sudan 'ust a few hours before. ~ ., , before. we will return to lewes throughout _ before. we will return to lewes throughout the _ before. we will return to lewes throughout the programme - before. we will return to lewes throughout the programme for| before. we will return to lewes i throughout the programme for any more developments, but let's turn to the number ten spokesman saying the british ambassador is speaking with the warring parties in sudan, trying to extend that ceasefire. we have only six hours until that ceasefire finishes. 0ur diplomatic correspondence has more from nairobi. irate correspondence has more from nairobi. ~ ., correspondence has more from nairobi. ~ . .,' ., nairobi. we have the offer from the resident nairobi. we have the offer from the president of — nairobi. we have the offer from the president of south _ nairobi. we have the offer from the president of south sudan _ nairobi. we have the offer from the president of south sudan in - president of south sudan in combination with some of his regional allies to host piece talks, talks between the two military leaders. the sudanese army responded
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they were willing to attend such talks. we've had no reply from the rapid reaction forces, and just in the last hour or so, the ministry of foreign affairs in sudan has tweeted, the army would not enter into negotiation, which have no choice to surrender. the prospects for talks seem a little questionable, perhaps even bleak at the moment. but i'm quite sure behind—the—scenes, and awful of people are trying to make sure this ceasefire is extended, partly of course because there are international citizens who come at their government would like to get out while they can. and also to try and stabilise the situation on the ground because there are terrible fears it will simply get worse. that is paul adams _ fears it will simply get worse. that is paul adams on _ fears it will simply get worse. that is paul adams on the _ fears it will simply get worse. that is paul adams on the diplomacy.
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let's return to the human stories we've been hearing about. we can speak now to sarah karrar. her 77—year—old mother went on holiday to sudan for a wedding earlier this month and has been trying to flee the conflict. thank you've being here on the programme. tell me, what has happened to your mother? i programme. tell me, what has happened to your mother? i think like a lot of— happened to your mother? i think like a lot of other _ happened to your mother? i think like a lot of other british - happened to your mother? i think| like a lot of other british sudanese people, she travelled, because it is a holiday with ramadan and wedding season, and she was only there for six days before fighting broke out. she was quite lucky in that you happen to be visiting my aunts at that time and got trapped in her house, so where my auntie lives is less dangerous. but you could still hear bombing in the background when i spoke to her on the phone. we have been thinking about how to get her
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out. initially, whilst people around her were fleeing and going to egypt, we were following the advice given by the british embassy, which was tuesday indoors, because that is the safest thing, and then as time went on, we got more concerned because things were getting worse. it was getting more difficult for her to leave, so buses to the egyptian border were full and expensive, they only took cash. so we were really happy when we heard there were plans to evacuate. we register early on in terms of evacuation, if that were to happen. we were told to wait until we got instructions before going to be airfields. we waited. meanwhile, it was getting more complicated in terms of getting in touch with my mum because the phone lines were on and off. and then, finally, we found
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out through twitter, there was a photo of the tweet saying make your way to the airport. sham photo of the tweet saying make your way to the airport.— way to the airport. am i right in sa in: way to the airport. am i right in saying family — way to the airport. am i right in saying family have _ way to the airport. am i right in saying family have taken - way to the airport. am i right in saying family have taken her. way to the airport. am i right in saying family have taken her to | way to the airport. am i right in - saying family have taken her to the airport, but you are now unclear whether she got on a flight, what has happened to her. is that right? it took seven hours to arrange a car to take care. we borrowed some from a distant relative, and then my cousin dropped her of at the airport. he told her she was fine and she would take off at 5am khartoum time yesterday morning. we assumed she was on the plane, and i think that would have been the third plane landing in cyprus at 9am wednesday, but i haven't heard from her since. wednesday, but i haven't heard from hersince. i have wednesday, but i haven't heard from her since. i have called the fco helpline and they couldn't confirm if she was in cyprus or not. there
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were limited staff on the ground in cyprus, and to wait and someone would be in touch. i'm assuming she's in cyprus but i don't know for sure or when she will come to the uk. she may be at stansted at the moment, i don't know. if i don't hear anything, moment, i don't know. if i don't hearanything, i moment, i don't know. if i don't hear anything, i will go up to stansted and wait. i hear anything, i will go up to stansted and wait.— hear anything, i will go up to stansted and wait. i read she is a diabetic as _ stansted and wait. i read she is a diabetic as well _ stansted and wait. i read she is a diabetic as well as _ stansted and wait. i read she is a diabetic as well as being - stansted and wait. i read she is a diabetic as well as being 77. - stansted and wait. i read she is a l diabetic as well as being 77. simply not knowing what has happened to her, given the backdrop all of those had been watching, that must be incredibly alarming. it is stressful, _ incredibly alarming. it is stressful, and _ incredibly alarming. it is stressful, and when - incredibly alarming. it is stressful, and when i i incredibly alarming. it 3 stressful, and when i spoke to her last two days ago, she only had three days worth of medication, my cousin said she left in a borrowed dress from my auntie and a plastic bag. and so i am concerned. i want
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to know she's in cyprus, but i also want to know when she will arrive here so i can be prepared and pick here so i can be prepared and pick her up from the airport. just here so i can be prepared and pick her up from the airport.— her up from the airport. just a brief final— her up from the airport. just a brief final question, _ her up from the airport. just a brief final question, because l her up from the airport. just a brief final question, because i | her up from the airport. just a i brief final question, because i was listening to the foreign secretary in a variety of interviews. he makes the obvious point communications are so difficult, we know the internet goes down, there isn't a lot of power in khartoum. more broadly, what has it been like trying to get information from the foreign office? it has been difficult. i appreciate this is an evolving situation, but it has been difficult. advice has been slow and it has been, you know, at the beginning it was don't go to the airport, and then leicester and two years ago —— two hours later, it was go to the airport. she got there
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after one plane had left off, so she sat in an airfield for seven hours until the next plane took off. i make allowances, it's a war zone, but communication could be better. but i am glad at least she is safe, i think, but i am glad at least she is safe, ithink, i but i am glad at least she is safe, i think, i assume. brute but i am glad at least she is safe, ithink, i assume.— but i am glad at least she is safe, ithink, i assume. i think, i assume. we hope as well. thank you — i think, i assume. we hope as well. thank you for— i think, i assume. we hope as well. thank you for taking _ i think, i assume. we hope as well. thank you for taking time _ i think, i assume. we hope as well. thank you for taking time to - i think, i assume. we hope as well. thank you for taking time to talk. i think, i assume. we hope as well. thank you for taking time to talk to | thank you for taking time to talk to us. it is clearly a difficult time, so we are grateful to you to describe the situation and talk to us on bbc news. let's continue to try and work out what is happening on the ground, just as we were halfway through the interview. i saw the line flick up to khartoum. you have decided to remain a khartoum. thank you for taking the time to
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talk to us. give me an idea of what it is like bear. the obvious question, why you have chosen to stay. question, why you have chosen to sta . ., , . question, why you have chosen to sta. .,, ., , ._ stay. for several reasons, actually. the reason — stay. for several reasons, actually. the reason we _ stay. for several reasons, actually. the reason we chose _ stay. for several reasons, actually. the reason we chose to _ stay. for several reasons, actually. the reason we chose to stay - stay. for several reasons, actually. the reason we chose to stay is i stay. for several reasons, actually. the reason we chose to stay is thatj the reason we chose to stay is that we couldn't guarantee the roads were safe, the evacuation routes were safe. even people who made it out, we were hearing horror stories at the border. some people are taking three days to reach the border and then they are stuck that without food and water or shelter. we chose to stay for several reasons. the sheer logistics, are the road save, how can we get to the border? what happens when we reach the border? my family require entry visas to egypt's. my family require entry visas to egypt's. my mum is with us here, and
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her passport expired. some days we heard they are renewing passports at the border and they will let people in it they have expired, and other days you read the border is overwhelmed, they are taking several days just a process to people actually at the border. i’m daysjust a process to people actually at the border. i'm reading here, 'ust actually at the border. i'm reading here. just a _ actually at the border. i'm reading here, just a message _ actually at the border. i'm reading here, just a message from - actually at the border. i'm reading here, just a message from our- here, just a message from our producer, he was talking to you, even as you are communicating, there has been more fighting, more shelling around you. give us an idea, because we have the ceasefire in place but there are pockets of continued fighting pretty close to you, is that there? i continued fighting pretty close to you, is that there?— you, is that there? i can hear shellin: you, is that there? i can hear shelling right _ you, is that there? i can hear shelling right now. _ you, is that there? i can hear shelling right now. the i you, is that there? i can hear shelling right now. the thing| you, is that there? i can hear i shelling right now. the thing about the ceasefire is that i really don't know where it is happening because everywhere people are reporting that is shelling, military planes flying
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over, there are air strikes. the thing about the ceasefire, it is very selective, apparently, because from where i am sitting, there is no ceasefire. ., , from where i am sitting, there is no ceasefire. . , ., ., ceasefire. that is alarming, given we aren't even _ ceasefire. that is alarming, given we aren't even at _ ceasefire. that is alarming, given we aren't even at the _ ceasefire. that is alarming, given we aren't even at the end - ceasefire. that is alarming, given we aren't even at the end of i ceasefire. that is alarming, given we aren't even at the end of the i we aren't even at the end of the official truce. we aren't even at the end of the officialtruce. how we aren't even at the end of the official truce. how much do you worry that in less than six hours' time, intense fighting might resume? it is terrifying, because right now it is terrifying, because right now i was reading the uk embassy in sudanjust put up i was reading the uk embassy in sudan just put up a notice for uk nationals to evacuate or reach evacuation points because the ceasefire will end in a few hours. we are going through it right now, it isn't enough? they are going to pump it up? it is terrifying. i5 pump it up? it is terrifying. is part of the terror, there's so much focus abroad on foreign nationals,
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there is evacuation efforts. 0nce there is evacuation efforts. once there is evacuation efforts. once the majority of that is completed, is the fear for people in sudan that perhaps the outside world begins to forget what is happening for all of you on the ground?— forget what is happening for all of you on the ground? yes, there has been a complete _ you on the ground? yes, there has been a complete disregard - you on the ground? yes, there has been a complete disregard even i you on the ground? yes, there has been a complete disregard even in | been a complete disregard even in the narrative regarding sudanese lives and people at home. i keep saying, just open an airport and letters leave. i understand that has to be negotiated and somehow the parties fighting need to commit to not attacking, whether civilian flights or military flights. for example, if i have an elderly parent, also my dad is stuck at home are not able to get out. even anybody with a chronic disease. i am diabetic, i can't take a three day ride into the unknown, so the thing about forgetting the sudanese
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people, it isjust, like, they haven't been placed in the narrative from where i am setting. nobody is saying, what about the sudanese people question what it is, where are you evacuating to? you are on your own. even if i'm expected to figure it out, i don't have the information, so it is, which roads are safe? then the next day you read, the people were dragged from their cars and shot. the next eight you read, maybe it is a little safer. the next day, there was an air strike which totalled five houses. there is uncertainty and a lack of information. even these people, the warring peoples, having come out and talk to the sudanese people and given us guidelines or updates. so we can decide. it almost
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sounds from — updates. so we can decide. it almost sounds from your _ updates. so we can decide. it almost sounds from your description - updates. so we can decide. it almost sounds from your description that i sounds from your description that the sudanese people are being held hostage by these two factions. just a final quick for because there have been many moments in recent decades weather has been violence in sudan, but never in the capital. and you believe there is this level of intense fighting we've seen over the last couple of weeks and potentially more to come in a capital so densely populated, 6 million people? can you believe it is happening all around you? i believe it is happening all around ou? �* believe it is happening all around ou? , believe it is happening all around ou? �* , ., ., you? i can't believe the total disregard — you? i can't believe the total disregard for _ you? i can't believe the total disregard for in _ you? i can't believe the total disregard for in life. - you? i can't believe the total disregard for in life. i - you? i can't believe the total disregard for in life. i do i you? i can't believe the total i disregard for in life. i do believe we have armed militias prone to violence, we have trigger—happy security forces. that is no surprise. in no way is khartoum more special than where civilians have been targeted for years. at the same
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time, i wouldn't think there would be air strikes on a civilian population, on a heavily, densely populated area, and you are having air strikes. populated area, and you are having airstrikes. 0n populated area, and you are having air strikes. 0n apartment buildings, air strikes. 0n apartment buildings, a few doors down from us, it was struck by, i don't know, ground to air missile. that is the only surprise, that they are still doing this, still at it. we surprise, that they are still doing this, still at it.— this, still at it. we are so grateful _ this, still at it. we are so grateful you've _ this, still at it. we are so grateful you've taken i this, still at it. we are sol grateful you've taken time this, still at it. we are so i grateful you've taken time with everything you described, to give is a sense of what it is like right now in khartoum. we are very grateful for that. thank you joining us, as we moved to the live pictures. it was so interesting listening to her saying, talk of a ceasefire is a broad umbrella phrase, because the continued little pocket fighting and
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shelling continuing, and, of course, thatis shelling continuing, and, of course, that is the scene, the skyline in khartoum. behind—the—scenes, as we've been hearing, the british trying to get an extension to the nominal ceasefire, but that the latest there in khartoum and sudan, and of course we will return to that story here on our programme in the next couple of minutes. let's return to the breaking news from the united states, becausejerry springer, best known for his shows whether members of public were encouraged to air their disagreements before he gave advice, he has died at the age of 79. before turning to tv he was the mayor of cincinnati. he was born in london where his parents were taking shelter from a london where his parents were taking shelterfrom a bombing raid in the second world war. we were hearing his description of the family
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background on the programmejust his description of the family background on the programme just a short while ago, but let head to washington and speak to allah corresponded their majestic parker. —— speak to our correspondence jessica parker. he -- speak to our correspondence jessica parker.— jessica parker. he had a hugely influential— jessica parker. he had a hugely influential show, _ jessica parker. he had a hugely influential show, he _ jessica parker. he had a hugely influential show, he topped i jessica parker. he had a hugely influential show, he topped the ratings at one point. he was a culturally significant figure. some people criticise his show as trustee, he hit back at it saying it was elitist. in terms of popularity, you only have to look at how many years to show run four, 27 years, to see how popular it was. we've had a statement from his representative, who said his ability to to connect with people was at the heart of his success in everything he tried,
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whether politics, orjoking with people. he is irreplaceable and is loss hurts, but his memory will live on. he had a long career, at one point he was mayor of cincinnati. he was tied to the democratic party, and to show starting off in the early 1990s and going on for many years after that.— years after that. let's continue to talk about jerry — years after that. let's continue to talk about jerry springer. - years after that. let's continue to i talk about jerry springer. welcome, talk aboutjerry springer. welcome, andre. you were listing there. you are smiling. this man had the show which so dominated us television for a long time, but at its heart, it was all about him and his ability to interact with people. it was all about him and his ability to interact with people.—
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interact with people. it was, and the crazy thing — interact with people. it was, and the crazy thing about _ interact with people. it was, and the crazy thing about it - interact with people. it was, and the crazy thing about it is i interact with people. it was, and the crazy thing about it is before i the crazy thing about it is before reality tv, he would actually go places 0prah reality tv, he would actually go places oprah winfrey would never go. he would go to the heart of certain things, not saying the others did not go, but he would have racists, bigots, men sleeping around. he would really go certain places. but he would always end the show on a positive note. because it was all about really centring it back around to some form of positivity. i look at him more thanjust to some form of positivity. i look at him more than just a tv host, to some form of positivity. i look at him more thanjust a tv host, a politician. he was a businessman, actor. when i was in high school, i met him long before i decided to do this type of work. he would actually come over, we had a store across the street from nbc and he would
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actually deposit his paycheques personally. he wasjust actually deposit his paycheques personally. he was just so down—to—earth. he was, i am personally. he was just so down—to—earth. he was, iam not jerry springer, i am gerald outside of the show. 50 jerry springer, i am gerald outside of the show— jerry springer, i am gerald outside of the show. so outside was similar to inside? he _ of the show. so outside was similar to inside? he did _ of the show. so outside was similar to inside? he did not— of the show. so outside was similar to inside? he did not talk— of the show. so outside was similar to inside? he did not talk about i of the show. so outside was similarj to inside? he did not talk about the show, he to inside? he did not talk about the show. he was _ to inside? he did not talk about the show. he was a _ to inside? he did not talk about the show, he was a fan _ to inside? he did not talk about the show, he was a fan of _ to inside? he did not talk about the show, he was a fan of the _ to inside? he did not talk about the show, he was a fan of the cubs. i to inside? he did not talk about the show, he was a fan of the cubs. he| show, he was a fan of the cubs. he askedif show, he was a fan of the cubs. he asked if i was a fan. he was a big cubs fan. ., ., . ,., cubs fan. you touched upon it because now _ cubs fan. you touched upon it because now when _ cubs fan. you touched upon it because now when you i cubs fan. you touched upon it because now when you look . cubs fan. you touched upon it | because now when you look at cubs fan. you touched upon it i because now when you look at tv in so many parts of the world, the audience is part of shows like this, but he was a trailblazer. he was the man you put on british television, there are still shows copying what
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he brought to television. but there are still shows copying what he brought to television.- he brought to television. but the difference is, _ he brought to television. but the difference is, going _ he brought to television. but the difference is, going back- he brought to television. but the difference is, going back to i he brought to television. but the difference is, going back to the l difference is, going back to the positive note, it didn't go past that. people came on the show, they out there and then ended it. i know maybe in certain situations, but i don't think anything i heard went past the show, compared to some other shows. we wouldn't have survivor and other shows which came after him. but we would not have the negativity which has followed a sum of these other shows would have taken suit from what he created. andre, we are running out of time. thank you, andre phillips, from chicago. his memories ofjoe springer ——jerry chicago. his memories ofjoe springer —— jerry springer after the news he has died at 79. we will have
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a short break and then bring you the latest from sudan and the latest business news, and internationally and nationally as well. don't go away. hello there. we've had some brightness earlier on across some eastern parts of england, and some sunshine in the northern isles, but on the whole today there's been a lot of cloud around and more of a breeze as well, and that's been blowing in two sets of weather fronts that are bringing areas of thicker cloud and some rain. despite all the cloud, temperatures across some eastern parts of england may be a little bit higher than they were yesterday, but still our top temperature is only 15 degrees. through the afternoon, into the evening, we've still got rain affecting many parts of the country. it could be heavier for a while across some eastern areas of england. the worst of that rain, then, moving out into the north sea, and things become a little bit drier in many places by the end of the night. still a lot of cloud so it's going to be mild, and milder than it has been of late across a good part of scotland. still some rain around to start the day tomorrow.
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a lot of that moves away into the north sea. we've got this increasingly light and patchy rain moving into scotland where it stays cloudy. england and wales, northern ireland, they may brighten up. some sunshine coming through. that'll lead to a few showers, especially in northern ireland where they could be heavy. temperatures here reaching 15 degrees. it could make 19 in the south—east of england perhaps, where we get some sunshine, so its beginning to warm up a little bit. we're not tapping into that extreme heat that's across spain. instead, our weather tending to come more from the azores so it's a warmer direction, the winds more from the atlantic than from the south—west. and it's still going to be cold across northern parts of scotland. elsewhere, we've got a lot of cloud in scotland, northern england, depressing temperatures. england and wales and northern ireland, the chance of some sunshine but also some heavy and perhaps thundery showers. temperatures in the south—east could make 20 degrees. notice in northern scotland it's only around 8 degrees or so. moving into sunday, and again a little bit of sunshine but more showers probably breaking out. heavy and thundery, and some wetter weather sliding into the north—west of the uk.
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temperatures maybe a little bit lower on sunday, around 14—18 celsius. bank holiday monday, and at long last there are signs of an area of high pressure trying to build them from the atlantic. it may arrive a little too late. we still got the chance of some showers on bank holiday monday, particularly for the eastern side of the uk, and top temperatures 16 or 17 degrees. so some wet weather around today. tomorrow looks like it should be drier. it's getting a bit warmer in time for the weekend, but with that warmth we're going to find some heavy showers.
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