hello, i'm christian fraser. this is the context. we need a new approach that recognises a flutter is one thing, unchecked addiction is another. everything they're announcing today was ready a year ago. six gambling ministers, four culture secretaries have all promised to publish this white paper imminently. hello, welcome to the programme. the british government has set out the biggest shake up of gambling laws in nearly 20 years. but do these proposed changes go far enough to protect problem gamblers? and why is there so little focus on advertising? the clock is ticking on the ceasefire in sudan —

-- it is —— it is being reported the army in sudan is ready to extend the cease—fire 72 hours. we'll try and confirm that in the next hour. the british government says the evacuation is dependent on whether it holds. we will talk to those who have got out and to those still waiting. a shareholders revolt at bp. some of the uk's biggest pension funds are expressing "deep frustration" with the company's revised climate strategy. and after 2000 years, women finally get the vote. hope francis is women and laypeople will be given greater responsibility in the running of the catholic church, starting in october. we will hear from catholic church, starting in october. we will hearfrom one catholic church, starting in october. we will hear from one of 0ctober. we will hear from one of those who campaigned —— pope francis says women. we are going to start with gambling. the british government has set out today a much delayed review of the rules governing its $18 billion gambling industry, at a time when uk betting companies are exporting their highly successful tactics to the rest of the world.

the new rules are designed to prevent problem gambling. among the changes, a stake limit for online betting, new background checks and a tax to fund research and treatment for problem gamblers. the culture secretary, lucy frazer, explained why the changes were needed. we need a new approach that recognises a flutter is one thing, unchecked addiction is another. so today we are bringing our pre—smartphone regulations into the present day with a gambling white paper for the digital age. but it's taken the government two and half years, and ten different ministers in charge of gambling policy, to produce a white paper that was first promised in 2020. the opposition said it was long overdue. the government has delayed this white paper many times. everything they're announcing today was ready to go a year ago. six gambling ministers, four culture secretaries have all promised to publish this white paper imminently. that being said, madam deputy speaker, we welcome many of the measures in the announcement, which are many of the things we've long been calling for.

the chair of the betting and gaming council, brigid simmonds, defended the industry, pointing to the billions they generate billions for the uk economy. we're a successful industry. we're an industry that supports 110,000 jobs in this country. i we make a contribution- of {7.1 billion to the economy and we pay {4.2 billion in tax. and we have 22.5 million customers |who regularly, on a monthly basis, | take part in betting i and gaming activities. we arejoined tonight by tim farron, former leader of the liberal democrats and mp for westmorland and lonsdale, and alan smith, bishop of st albans who is a vice chair of peers for gambling reform. thank you for being with us this evening. tim, can i start with you. do you think this goes far enough? it does not. there are steps in the right direction, let us not be complete the unfair, but we have waited four years for this white paper in their tiny steps in the right direction. what is in the

white paper... if you sat through the city— arsenal game last night and saw the adverts for gambling, made to look so easy, so trivial, so acceptable, to millions of people, many of whom are young, when you assess that and you compare that against the backdrop of many people i represent who have been the victims of gambling addiction, the families, the lives that are ruined, people driven to suicide, it feels to me that this is... it would compare to what government in the 50s did with smoking. i don't want gambling band, buti 50s did with smoking. i don't want gambling band, but i think advertising certainly should be banned on television and i'm surprise is not even mentioned the. alan smith, why do you think that is? i alan smith, why do you think that is? ~' . , alan smith, why do you think that is? ~' ., , , , is? i think the gambling industry has been very. _ is? i think the gambling industry has been very, very _ is? i think the gambling industry has been very, very stressful - is? i think the gambling industry has been very, very stressful in l has been very, very stressful in lobbying — has been very, very stressful in lobbying. it has been expose one mp who was_ lobbying. it has been expose one mp who was caught offering to help the

gambling _ who was caught offering to help the gambling cause. you'll probably aware _ gambling cause. you'll probably aware the gambling pays more money to mp5. _ aware the gambling pays more money to mp5, consultancies and free tickets. — to mp5, consultancies and free tickets, than any other industry in britain _ tickets, than any other industry in britain today. so there is a real battle — britain today. so there is a real battle going on between an industry which _ battle going on between an industry which makes a huge amount of money which _ which makes a huge amount of money which has _ which makes a huge amount of money which has been brutally clever, it is privatise — which has been brutally clever, it is privatise the profits and nationalise the costs. you and i are picking _ nationalise the costs. you and i are picking up— nationalise the costs. you and i are picking up the 1.27 billion costs that it — picking up the 1.27 billion costs that it is — picking up the 1.27 billion costs that it is to the state. and so that is probably— that it is to the state. and so that is probably why there's been so much slowness. _ is probably why there's been so much slowness, and as tim says, it is a good _ slowness, and as tim says, it is a good start, — slowness, and as tim says, it is a good start, but that is all it is. what — good start, but that is all it is. what confuses a lot of the campaigners, especially given the time we have had to wait for this white paper, is that it is difficult to know what is definitely going to go through and what is still up for consultation. why do we need a consultation. why do we need a consultation when ten different ministers in a two and a half years of debate has elapsed, since we were promised to get a white paper?

absolutely. we had for years, we now have a white paper, half of which is consultations and things that might not happen. yes, i cannot help but think this is a government that has been gotten by the lobbyist, well—funded organisations, and yet i can only look the evidence of my place, people who i know, families whose lives have been devastated, relationships broken, families utterly devastated, people have lost their lives for gambling addiction, and i hear the libertarian organ saying, don't interfere, this is not for the state to intervene. i am not calling for gambling to be banned, but i am calling forfar calling for gambling to be banned, but i am calling for far greater regulation and a regulation that a genuine liberal want to rescue people from being enslaved by summit which is an addiction and an addiction that wrecks families and wrecks lives. is addiction that wrecks families and wrecks lives— wrecks lives. is there a distinction, _ wrecks lives. is there a distinction, enough -

wrecks lives. is there a - distinction, enough distinction, looking at the pitchers to the right of you there, of online slot machines, casinos online? is there enough distinction between that and the sports betting market that a lot of people subscribe to with the online betting companies? i of people subscribe to with the online betting companies? i think there is an _ online betting companies? i think there is an assumption _ online betting companies? i think there is an assumption that - online betting companies? i think there is an assumption that that i online betting companies? i think| there is an assumption that that is somehow more harmless. there are friends of mine who regularly bed, i do not think they have a problem, it is something they have every right to do. with the more compulsive stuff that draws you in, lots of it online, it is easy to lose a lot of money very, very quickly for stub but either wake up looking at major sporting events, let's think of the world cup in the european championships of football. in between, on the commercial television, in between every single half, when you've got enormous family audiences, there is a presentation of gambling as just being ordinary, harmless, and attractive thing, no big deal, and people get drawn in and people don't start by losing loads of money, it

is drip, drip, drip, slow to sometimes desperate, desperate misery. we have to to the balance right. i don't want them went to be banned, much more heavily regulated, maximum stakes reduced, but we have surely got to start with banning tv advertising. surely got to start with banning tv advertisinu. �* . surely got to start with banning tv advertisinu. . . ., surely got to start with banning tv advertising-— advertising. allen, a lot of people watchin: advertising. allen, a lot of people watching the rubble _ advertising. allen, a lot of people watching the rubble think - advertising. allen, a lot of people watching the rubble think this - advertising. allen, a lot of people watching the rubble think this is l advertising. allen, a lot of people watching the rubble think this is a j watching the rubble think this is a very british debate, but the british company suck usually successful and they are exporting this usually successful technique to other countries where they are making enormous profits. it is start to open up in the united states, it has really opened up in europe. do you spot some of that and are you in conversation with people overseas as to what sort of effect this can have? , . , to what sort of effect this can have? , , have? yes, has absolutely mushroomed, _ have? yes, has absolutely mushroomed, particular i have? yes, has absolutely| mushroomed, particular in have? yes, has absolutely - mushroomed, particular in the have? yes, has absolutely _ mushroomed, particular in the states but right— mushroomed, particular in the states but right across europe and in the far east. — but right across europe and in the far east, which is always been hot spot for— far east, which is always been hot spot for gimli. the number of prominent cherries in touch with us, alarm _ prominent cherries in touch with us, alarm see _ prominent cherries in touch with us, alarm see what has happened to us ——

the number of— alarm see what has happened to us —— the number of parliamentarians. the extraordinary social cost, something more _ extraordinary social cost, something more than _ extraordinary social cost, something more than 400 people a year taking their lives— more than 400 people a year taking their lives in this country, more than _ their lives in this country, more than 60,000 teenagers now diagnosed with a _ than 60,000 teenagers now diagnosed with a clinical damping problem for how many— with a clinical damping problem for how many children not even supposed beginning _ how many children not even supposed beginning according to the lot rectally— beginning according to the lot rectally gambling? —— clinical gambling problem. it is pretty much a wild _ gambling problem. it is pretty much a wild west situation. going back to your original question, i think it is very— your original question, i think it is very worrying, some of the things that been_ is very worrying, some of the things that been put out for consultation. i that been put out for consultation. i was _ that been put out for consultation. i was a _ that been put out for consultation. i was a member of the house of lords elect committee on this subject. we have all— elect committee on this subject. we have all the evidence which has been marshaiied _ have all the evidence which has been marshalled already and this is simply— marshalled already and this is simply delaying tactics, sol marshalled already and this is simply delaying tactics, so i am certainly— simply delaying tactics, so i am certainly trying to get a question in the house of lords next week to the government about how quickly we are going _ the government about how quickly we are going to see a move on this, and we witt— are going to see a move on this, and we will certainly be talking with the

gambling commission. the point is, alan, the consultation _ gambling commission. the point is, alan, the consultation is _ alan, the consultation is detrimentalfor alan, the consultation is detrimental for people who want change but also for the industry as well, because if you are speaking to shareholders, speaking to the city about your profits, you need to know what certainty there is going to be for the industry going forward. it does not really benefit anyone. certainly, but it does not benefit the one — certainly, but it does not benefit the one in— certainly, but it does not benefit the one in 1000 people have lost the one in1000 people have lost their— the one in1000 people have lost their lives— the one in 1000 people have lost their lives in the last three years, and this— their lives in the last three years, and this is— their lives in the last three years, and this is notjust affecting a few people. _ and this is notjust affecting a few people. ijr— and this is notjust affecting a few people, 1.4 people “ one —— one point for me people in this country— —— one point for me people in this country affected with another half—million people likely to be. that is— half—million people likely to be. that is something which is touching iarge _ that is something which is touching large numbers of families, and the other— large numbers of families, and the other the _ large numbers of families, and the other the thing is, large numbers of families, and the otherthe thing is, a number of football clubs now are waking up to the fact _ football clubs now are waking up to the fact that some parents do not want _ the fact that some parents do not want their— the fact that some parents do not want their children to watch a premier— want their children to watch a premier division match. the statistics— premier division match. the statistics say if you watch a full match, — statistics say if you watch a full match, you will see about 700

adverts — match, you will see about 700 adverts that time on shirts and on the side _ adverts that time on shirts and on the side of— adverts that time on shirts and on the side of the pitch and so on, so they really— the side of the pitch and so on, so they really have to think about whether— they really have to think about whether placing themselves, some parents _ whether placing themselves, some parents are saying, this is grooming my children — parents are saying, this is grooming my children into something i don't want _ my children into something i don't want. . , . . . want. premier league such a look at it, but not until _ want. premier league such a look at it, but not until 2026. _ want. premier league such a look at it, but not until 2026. tim _ want. premier league such a look at it, but not until2026. tim farron, i it, but not until 2026. tim farron, alan smith, thank you very much —— sent to look at it. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. teachers in england have staged a further day of strikes in their long running dispute over pay. thousands of schools were closed or partially closed due to the action by the national education union, which said it regretted any disruption caused. the education secretary said the strike action was "extremely disappointing". the uk government has won a legal challenge to cut short a nurses strike in england. the industrial action called by the royal college of nursing was planned for sunday night through to end of play on tuesday. but a judge at the high court ruled the union's mandate to strike runs out on monday the 1st of may.

and politicians and unions in northern ireland have described the budget outlined by the westminster government today as brutal and damaging. it would normally be set by stormont, but the democratic unionist party is currently blocking power sharing in protest against post—brexit trading arrangements. the 72 hour cease—fire agreed by the warring factions in sudan ends at midnight. we have had a statement from the army this past hour, saying they are looking to extended for another 72 hours, but that is only a report and we still need to confirm that. downing street says britain's ambassador to sudan is speaking to the two sides, trying to persuade them to keep the ceasefire going. in the last few minutes, we have

been hearing from government ministers, who say they will continue to get those flights out to larnaka as long as they can come as long as the situation on the ground is stable. let's speak to paul adams. i am is stable. let's speak to paul adams. lam pausing because is stable. let's speak to paul adams. i am pausing because there are lots of unknown at the moment. of course the government want to of course the government want to keep going but it does depend on this cease—fire and whether it holds? this cease-fire and whether it holds? ., ., ~' ~' this cease-fire and whether it holds? ., ., ~ ~ ., holds? look, i think we need to understand _ holds? look, i think we need to understand already, _ holds? look, i think we need to understand already, the - holds? look, i think we need to i understand already, the cease-fire understand already, the cease—fire has not been holding in any sense that anyone living in khartoum would really recognise. it has been holding enough for the flights to continue from that airbase when he miles north of khartoum, but that is not the same as a proper cease—fire. residents of the city have talked about violations and a pretty terrifying situation at several times in the course of the day, so there is not much of a cease—fire to renew. but we have this evening is

the sudanese government saying as it indicated last night that it was willing to observe another 72 hour cease—fire, but without any word from the other side, from the rapid support forces, that feels like a slightly empty pledge. and possibly even setting the scene for being able to blame the other side if the fighting continues. i don't think we should get ahead of ourselves here a. should get ahead of ourselves here a, there is not much of a cease—fire in the first place and, b, if one side says it is going to extend the cease—fire, well, that is not very much. cease-fire, well, that is not very much. ~ . . ., ,, much. we have heard from the us secretary of _ much. we have heard from the us secretary of state _ much. we have heard from the us secretary of state that _ much. we have heard from the us secretary of state that the - much. we have heard from the us secretary of state that the us - much. we have heard from the us secretary of state that the us is l secretary of state that the us is heavily involved in this. who else is putting pressure on the two sides, paul? is putting pressure on the two sides. paul?— is putting pressure on the two sides, paul? the united states definitely is. _ sides, paul? the united states definitely is. it _ sides, paul? the united states definitely is. it is _ sides, paul? the united states definitely is. it is not _ sides, paul? the united states definitely is. it is not the - sides, paul? the united states| definitely is. it is not the united states and saudi arabia were instrument in getting that first cease—fire in place two or three days ago was the offer of talks last

night from the government of south sudan was a bit of a gesture by regional players to try and play a role and to try and broker some kind of settlement, or at least a cease—fire, they obviously had an interest in trying to calm the situation at a time when potentially tens of thousands of people are streaming across their borders, and we don't know whether what the army is talking about tonight is a response to that offer or, more likely, a response to pressure from the people that really matter, from the people that really matter, from the united states, saudi arabia and united arab emirates, also a player in this. britain, as you mention in your also involved. everyone trying to make this happen, out of self—interest, extracting foreign nationals, but also out of an acute awareness that if this thing disintegrates and degenerates

further, sudan is in for a very, very difficult time indeed. paul, thank ou very difficult time indeed. paul, thank you for— very difficult time indeed. paul, thank you for that. _ very difficult time indeed. paul, thank you for that. there - very difficult time indeed. paul, thank you for that. there is - very difficult time indeed. paul, thank you for that. there is a i very difficult time indeed. paul, thank you for that. there is a press conference ongoing at the white house at the moment. they are saying the situation is unlikely to be improved. in fact, the situation is unlikely to be improved. infact, it the situation is unlikely to be improved. in fact, it could worsen at any moment. they have appoint additional consular staff to the region, but they are urging americans to leave within the next 24 hours. the british foreign office says eight flights have landed in larnaca, caring and hundred 97 people. —— carrying 897 people. my colleague lewis vaughanjones has been there, watching them come in through the day. bring us up to date. how many flights have you seen coming today and what are they staying there on the ground about how long this can continue? hi the ground about how long this can continue? , . continue? hi there, christian full tub they described _ continue? hi there, christian full tub they described it _ continue? hi there, christian full tub they described it earlier - continue? hi there, christian full tub they described it earlier as l continue? hi there, christian full tub they described it earlier as a | tub they described it earlier as a steady drumbeat of flight arriving here into cyprus, and numbers you said there are the latest official ones. eight flights as of four p:m..

however, one thing, quite a while ago, and secondly, we were urged earlier that flights will continue to come in here, because if you think about it, they were playing to operate right into that cease—fire deadline which is, what, three hours away, and even after that, if you take off within that type of you have still got three to four hours orso have still got three to four hours or so after that to come in, so it could still be the early hours and everything under way. the other thing to bear in mind here is that from an operational point of view, yesterday, officials from the army said if conditions are right, we will continue to operate, so the technicalities of that cease—fire potentially less important. that is slightly contrary, but perhaps in the same spirit, as the government today talking about people really making that move to that airfield north of khartoum, within what was nowjust

north of khartoum, within what was now just the north of khartoum, within what was nowjust the next couple of hours, before the technical end of that cease—fire. before the technical end of that cease-fire— before the technical end of that cease-fire. �* ., , , , cease-fire. and we need to stress that peeple _ cease-fire. and we need to stress that people landing _ cease-fire. and we need to stress that people landing in _ cease-fire. and we need to stress that people landing in larnaka - cease-fire. and we need to stress l that people landing in larnaka had a lot of difficult decisions to make in the last 48 hours, whether they need to risk going to the airport and whether to leave people behind. is there a risk that some of those who did make it to the airbase north of khartoum are left on the airfield? . ,., . , of khartoum are left on the airfield? . . , ., airfield? yeah, potentially for we have heard _ airfield? yeah, potentially for we have heard different _ airfield? yeah, potentially for we have heard different stories - airfield? yeah, potentially for we l have heard different stories about people coming. we have seen people arrive here with small children, conflicting with that, we have heard some people who had children who perhaps are not their own, cousins, and had to leave those behind the really, really difficult decisions. 0n the flip side, almost, we have seen people you'rejust 0n the flip side, almost, we have seen people you're just behind 0n the flip side, almost, we have seen people you'rejust behind me from different countries, clearly there is some discussion happening about who comes on and who does not. really difficult decisions being made on the ground. and as for those

eventual numbers, we are still technicallyjust below 1000. that number will probably tick up, but if you think about the original numbers among more than two 2000 uk nationals try to get out in this way, and with it more than double of that actual number of uk passport holders in the country. 0k. passport holders in the country. ok. we will come _ passport holders in the country. ok. we will come back to you, lewis, a fast moving situation. of course, communication in sudan not easy. we are on the line withjerry, any of sudan. i hope you can hear me. —— in the port of sudan. what is your situation? jerry, can you hear me? tell me what your situation is there in the port of sudan? irate

your situation is there in the port of sudan? ~ . yeah, ithink yeah, i think we are going to struggle with that. we will try again. gerry, i struggle with that. we will try again. gerry, lam struggle with that. we will try again. gerry, i am very sorry, we will try again with that line, see if we can make contact with you, but i can tell you that gerry is there, quite a few people in the port of sudan, and he can see a raf plane bringing the quip and into sudan, but we are told the plane is going back to larnaka tonight and refusing to take people with them and the hms lancaster, just off the port hub is not there to evacuate citizens either, so people in the port of sudan to moment being allowed options to get out safely —— being denied options. we will see if we can make contact with gerry shortly.

several international aid groups say they're deeply concerned about how the crisis is having a growing impact in countries neighbouring sudan, including south sudan. joining me now from juba is marie helene verney, the un refugee agency's representative in south sudan. thank you very much for being with us. what sort of changes have you seen there in the last 72 hours? the ast 72 seen there in the last 72 hours? the past 72 hours _ seen there in the last 72 hours? tie: past 72 hours is really when we started to see quite a lot of people arriving in south sudan, at the border. it is a mix of people from sudanese refugees who were living in sudanese refugees who were living in sudan or coming back and also sudanese people who are fleeing into south sudan and a number of other east european and eritrean refugees living in sudan —— ethiopian and rich —— eritrean. we have seen more than 3600 today and arriving in a part of south sudan that is extremely

remote, extremely difficult and that has at the moment no access to any roads, so people... the risk is that people are going to get stuck in a place that is very, very difficult to bring any kind of assistance to. i wonder if you can go back in time and explain the relationship south sudan has with cartoon. —— with khartoum. sudan has with cartoon. -- with khartoum-— sudan has with cartoon. -- with khartoum. ,, . ::" . , khartoum. south sudan until2011 was art of khartoum. south sudan until2011 was part of south — khartoum. south sudan until2011 was part of south sudan. _ khartoum. south sudan until2011 was part of south sudan. south _ khartoum. south sudan until2011 was part of south sudan. south sudan - part of south sudan. south sudan only got its independence from sudan in 2011 and as a result of that there is a lot of from south sudan living in sudan. also south sudan from 2013 to 2016 had a pretty awful civil war, so a lot of from sudanese want to get back in khartoum, so we're talking about at least 800,000 refugees, and right now these people

are coming back in a pretty terrible condition and we have been hearing about the very difficult decisions that people have been having to make in order to leave khartoum and it is the same for these people, and we are seeing every day people arriving much more vulnerable. people have been travelling for seven days to reach the border.— reach the border. naturally of course we _ reach the border. naturally of course we have _ reach the border. naturally of course we have been - reach the border. naturally of course we have been focusing reach the border. naturally of. course we have been focusing on reach the border. naturally of - course we have been focusing on this rather frenetic operation in khartoum and focusing on the due nationals, but there are of course thousands of sudanese heading for neighbouring countries as we say. one would assume that you are repositioning equipment and supplies in south sudan now ready for thousands more to arrive. how much cooperation are you getting from somebody bigger countries, are people helping or are theyjust too many crises around the world at the moment? , , . ., ,., , moment? this is all... nobody expected _ moment? this is all... nobody expected that. _ moment? this is all... nobody expected that. we _ moment? this is all... nobody expected that. we have - moment? this is all... nobody expected that. we have been i moment? this is all... nobody - expected that. we have been seeing the numbers really going up in the

past two, three days. there is a lot of interest and a lot of willingness to support. south sudan is one of the poorest countries in the world. three quarters of the population of south sudan are in need of humanitarian assistance, so obviously arrivals of large numbers of people returning to their homeland nevertheless in conditions that were not planned or prepared is going to be difficult. to make matters more complicated, the entire north of south sudan is dependent on sudan for all sorts of things coming in, food coming in, and also the oil pipeline that goes from south sudan to port sudan, where you are trying to port sudan, where you are trying to contact one person just now. of course... basically one of the major exports south sudan has. apart from the arrival of refugees into south sudan, the situation for the people of south sudan themselves is going

to be quite complex. just of south sudan themselves is going to be quite complex.— to be quite complex. just very briefl , to be quite complex. just very briefly. very — to be quite complex. just very briefly, very briefly, _ to be quite complex. just very briefly, very briefly, only - to be quite complex. just very| briefly, very briefly, only about to be quite complex. just very - briefly, very briefly, only about 30 seconds left, is the un involved in the truce negotiations denied, the cease—fire negotiations? the the truce negotiations denied, the cease-fire negotiations? the mission in khartoum. — cease-fire negotiations? the mission in khartoum. in _ cease-fire negotiations? the mission in khartoum, in south _ cease-fire negotiations? the mission in khartoum, in south sudan, - cease-fire negotiations? the mission in khartoum, in south sudan, we - cease-fire negotiations? the mission in khartoum, in south sudan, we are| in khartoum, in south sudan, we are not involved. in khartoum, in south sudan, we are not involved-— not involved. right, and is there any connection _ not involved. right, and is there any connection between - not involved. right, and is there any connection between south i not involved. right, and is there - any connection between south sudan and the rebel forces? do they have any power to bring to the negotiations that are ongoing? the negotiations that are ongoing? tie: president of south sudan is really trying to bring the two parties to talk together, so he is after working with regional bodies in order to try and broker some kind of cease—fire and peace talks between the two parties. cease-fire and peace talks between the two parties-— cease-fire and peace talks between the two parties. marie helene verne, thank ou the two parties. marie helene verne, thank you very _ the two parties. marie helene verne, thank you very much _ the two parties. marie helene verne, thank you very much for _ the two parties. marie helene verne, thank you very much for your - the two parties. marie helene verne, thank you very much for your work i thank you very much for your work town there. difficult situation in south sudan and all the neighbouring countries at the moment, where many of the refugees are going. do stay with us. we will have a short break.

we will talk about a very stormy shareholders meeting at bp today and also women being given the vote in the catholic church. stay with us. hello there. we've seen a lot of cloud again today, with rain developing more widely. there will be some changes in the next few days. tomorrow, a drier day than today and it's warming up a bitjust in time for the bank holiday weekend, although there will be some sharp showers around as well. earlier on today, it was particularly wet in cornwall, an inch of rain falling in places. since then, that heavier rain has pushed through the midlands towards the south east of england. towards the south—east of england. it's heading up towards east anglia and lincolnshire as well. there'll be a lot of cloud around overnight, but the worst of the rain tending to move away towards the end of the night. it will be a mild start to friday and quite a bit milder than of late actually in scotland. there'll still be some rain left from overnight first thing, especially across northern england.

the worst that moves away out into the north sea. we've got some damp weather heading down with that cloud in scotland. the rest of the uk probably brightening up a bit. some sunshine coming through that could lead to one or two showers, particularly in northern ireland. a few heavy ones here in the afternoon. but temperatures are getting up to 16 degrees here and could make 18 or 19 in the southeast as it brightens up. so, a warmer day, quite widely, compared with today. now, temperatures did get close to 40 degrees in southern parts of spain. we're not tapping into that hot weather. instead, our air is coming more from the azores. it does mean temperatures are going to be higher, but there's still some cold air in place across northern scotland and temperatures will be depressed in scotland and northern england underneath that cloud. england, wales and northern ireland seeing some sunshine, but also a few more showers that could be heavy and thundery. but those temperatures are continuing to rise a bit. could make 20 in the south east of england, but still only around eight in northern scotland. into sunday, and quite a bit of cloud to come, maybe more showers breaking out, again, some of them heavy with the risk of thunder. wetter weather slides across northern ireland

into western scotland. so temperatures probably won't be quite so high, but still better than we've seen over the past few days. by the time we get to bank holiday monday, this area of high pressure is trying to build in from the atlantic. a little belatedly maybe, but there should be fewer showers around on monday. most of those highlighted there across northern scotland, east anglia and the southeast, though one or two could develop elsewhere. but there will be some sunshine around. it's turning drier from the west. the winds will be quite light and temperatures reaching a pleasant 16 or 17 celsius.

hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. the vatican is giving women a vote in a say in how the roman catholic church is run. and we are keeping across those reports from sudan tonight that the army is prepared to extend a 72 hour cease—fire. before we get into all that, let's pause and catch up on the sport. here's qasa. barcelona are into the women's

champions league final after a 1—1 draw with chelsea at the camp nou, and a 2—1win over the two legs. the catalan club took the lead through chelsea's tormentor caroline graham hansen, the norwegian forward who also scored in the first leg. chelsea hit back immediately through cgh's norwegian team—mate guro reiten. the blues pushed for a second goal to send the tie into extra time, but barcelona held on and will face either arsenal or wolfsburg in the final. tottenham are looking to get back to winning ways at home against manchester united in the first match of new caretaker manager ryan mason's tenure. spurs have slipped to seventh place after last week's humiliating six one loss against newcastle that cost christian stellini his job. they're now in danger of missing out on european football, with just one win in five matches. they play fourth place manchester united with a fully fit marcus rashford leading the line. the score is currently 1—0 to united. in the other two premier league matches, everton are currently

1—0 against newcastle. the toffees desperately in need of a win to move out of the relegation zone. and on the south coast, southampton host bournemouth in a relegation derby. the score there 0—0. to italy now, where fiorentina take a 2—0 lead into the second leg of their coppa italia semi final with cremonese. 23 points separate them in the serie a table, with cremonese facing relegation, but surprise wins over roma and napoli have taken them to the final four. currently the score is 0—0, the winner plays inter in the final. 20—year—old chinese si jiahui will take a slender lead into the second session of the first world snooker championships semi final against luca brecel. the belgian who'd never won a match at the crucible before this year's event started nervously and was four one down before rallying to take the next two frame and make it 4—3.

he missed a crucial pink to get back into the break on even terms. si jiahui the opportunity to pinch the frame and take control of the match. and he did so. that match resumes at 9am gmt on friday. the second semi final between mark allen and mark selby got under way about an hour and a half ago. these are live pictures from sheffield's famous crucible theatre. they are currently one frame. andy murray is out of the madrid masters in the first round after losing to qualifier andrea vavassori in straight sets 6—2, 7—6. the three—time grand slam champion has been struggling for form on the clay and was broken twice in the first set. he rallied in the second, but will be having sleepless nights about this missed volley at the net in the tie—breaker. vavassori plays daniil medvedev in the second round.

ahead of this weekends azerbaijan grand prix, ferrari's charles leclerc has refused to rule out a future move to mercedes. the frenchman said there haven't been any conversations but then added coyly, "not yet. not for the moment." mercedes are in contract extension talks with lewis hamilton, who will be 39 next january and whose current deal runs out at the end of this year. but hamilton says he loves his team and is reassured by the progress mercedes have made since he finished second at the australian grand prix at the start of the month. and that's all the sport for now. back to you, christian. thank you very much. it is 70 years since the united states forged an alliance with south korea, in the aftermath of the korean war. and to mark that occasion, the south korean president, yoon suk yeol, today addressing

a joint session of congress. it follows an agreement the white house signed yesterday to give south korea more insight into its nuclear planning. there's a committment to send nuclear armed submarines to south korea for the first time in decades. and in return, seoul has given an assurance it will not pursue a nuclear bomb of its own. mr yoon said the agreement would be critical for south korea as it stares down north korean aggression and chinese expansion in the indo—pacific region. all it has to do is stop its nuclear programme and give a substantive denuclearisation process. i once again urge north korea to seize it provocations and take the right path. korea with the us will continue to work for north korea's denuclearisation.— let's go live to capitol hill, and speak to the bbc�*s carl nasman. good to see you, important day and

week because there's been a lot of uncertainty recently about the relationship between the two countries. relationship between the two countries-— relationship between the two countries. . , , ,., countries. there has been some uncertainty. _ countries. there has been some uncertainty, and _ countries. there has been some uncertainty, and that's - countries. there has been some uncertainty, and that's one - countries. there has been some uncertainty, and that's one of i countries. there has been some. uncertainty, and that's one of the main reasons why yoon suk yeol was here today on capitol hill, finishing that speech a couple hours behind me, trying to drum up some support in his own country as well, to assure south koreans that the us would have its back if there were to be a conflict with north korea. and of course we've been seeing some worries grow about north korea's nuclear capabilities, we saw a record number of nuclear tests last year, so there is some concern there, and the united states has had a lot on its plea internationally as well, there were some concerns if you speak with south koreans at the us might be a bit distracted, so the south korean president here making sure he can reaffirm that commitment. president biden said the

us would be there, and this is called extended deterrence, a fancy way of saying the united states nuclear arsenal and its military will extend as far as it needs to go across the world to defend its allies. �* , , , allies. it's interesting they were so ublic allies. it's interesting they were so public about _ allies. it's interesting they were so public about this _ allies. it's interesting they were so public about this yesterday, l so public about this yesterday, there's obviously a big debate around ukraine and whether the funding will be there after the 2024 election. do you think there is some concern — are you hearing that from the south korean team about whether the south korean team about whether the us can be trusted to deliver a commitment to south korea? this all comes in the — commitment to south korea? this all comes in the wake _ commitment to south korea? this all comes in the wake of— commitment to south korea? this all comes in the wake of those _ commitment to south korea? this all comes in the wake of those leaked i comes in the wake of those leaked sensitive documents the macro pentagon documents, and that was a bit embarrassing for south korea, especially for president yoon, he had to stand by his ally and many of his own followers, and south koreans themselves — president yoon's approval rating has dipped since he was made to look like a lapdog for the united states, at least in terms

of what the headlines in south korea were saying. but this seems to have been smoothed over, i've spoken with a couple different congresspeople after that speech and they both reassured me and south korea that this is a strong alliance, they said that those leaked documents were in the past, and they said they hoped it wouldn't happen again. but in terms of ukraine, president yoon mentioned in his speech that south korea does want to offer some sort of aid for ukraine, he did not mention military aid, but the representatives i spoke to said that this could maybe be a step in the right direction towards a military assistance, as well.— right direction towards a military assistance, as well. what happened after the dinner _ assistance, as well. what happened after the dinner last _ assistance, as well. what happened after the dinner last night? - assistance, as well. what happened after the dinner last night? i - after the dinner last night? i understand he was presented with a guitar by the president. t solar understand he was presented with a guitar by the president.— guitar by the president. i saw a iano, i guitar by the president. i saw a piano. i didn't— guitar by the president. i saw a piano, i didn't see _ guitar by the president. i saw a piano, i didn't see a _ guitar by the president. i saw a piano, i didn't see a guitar, - guitar by the president. i saw a i piano, i didn't see a guitar, and i sawa piano, i didn't see a guitar, and i saw a microphone as well, and it turns out that president yoon — he delivered a 30 minute speech here on capitol hill, but last night he sang some refrains from "american pie at". i was surprised at how good a

speaker he was testing her he was, i called him president kroon. he brought the house down, it was impressive. t brought the house down, it was impressive-— brought the house down, it was imressive. ~' . . ~ impressive. i like the name, thank ou impressive. i like the name, thank you very much _ impressive. i like the name, thank you very much indeed. _ some of the uk's biggest pension funds say they will not support the reappointment of bp chairman helge lund, who earlier this year, scaled back the company's targets on climate change. the five funds, who together manage the pensions of a third of british works, said there is a critical "failure of governance". bp said it valued "constructive challenge and engagement". bp's original target was to reduce emissions by 35—40% by the end of this decade, a plan signed off by shareholders in 2022. but in february, bp announced it was now aiming for a 20—30% cut, citing the war in ukraine and concerns about energy security. it's not only the pension funds that find that abhorrent. there were angry protests

at the start of the meeting, climate protesters removed, and others repeatedly interrupted the chairman and the ceo bernard looney. joining us now to discuss further is mike coffin, head of oil, gas and mining at carbon tracker, initiative a think tank which researches the impact of climate change on financial markets. this is a bit of a turn up because all right, these pension funds are barely 1% of the company's total shares, but they manage a third of the money for uk workers, so they have a lot of clout. and maybe this is just a signal that companies will have to pay much more attention to ethical investment? t have to pay much more attention to ethical investment?— ethical investment? i suppose it's an interesting _ ethical investment? i suppose it's an interesting revolution - ethical investment? i suppose it's an interesting revolution today, i| an interesting revolution today, i think what's important is the pension funds ultimately act in their beneficiary's interests, so if they have growing concern over

climate change and they grow awareness of that, investors care about climate and ultimately the asset owners and pension funds acting on their behalf need to take those concerns seriously. not only concerned about climate, but energy transition risk they must be concerned about. so the renewable system creates a challenge for oil and gas companies, and they must ensure that companies are planning for that transition, and one of the key points of that is for planning for oil and gas volumes to reduce in the future. so for oil and gas volumes to reduce in the future. , ., for oil and gas volumes to reduce in the future. i. , . . for oil and gas volumes to reduce in the future-— the future. so you research the im act the future. so you research the impact of _ the future. so you research the impact of climate _ the future. so you research the impact of climate change - the future. so you research the impact of climate change on i impact of climate change on financial markets, and you've long campaigned about the stranded assets, the assets that are there on the balance sheet, but not as a liability for these companies, and they will be of course, will they

not, if the ev industry takes off as we are seeing it take off? t not, if the ev industry takes off as we are seeing it take off?- we are seeing it take off? i think there is two _ we are seeing it take off? i think there is two important _ we are seeing it take off? i think there is two important points, i there is two important points, there's the existing production assets these companies have, but the future revenues from these assets may reduce due to volume impact, but also price impact, and what that does is brings the value of those assets on the books and it may need to be impaired as a result of this. it's really important that companies disclose that information in a transparent way to investors, and the financial system as a whole analyses that to adequately price risk of the future. additionally if companies are seeking to invest new production assets predicated on returns over decades to come, those assets run the risk of becoming stranded, adding to the climate problem but also failing to deliver returns to investors.— problem but also failing to deliver returns to investors. when you watch the meeting — returns to investors. when you watch the meeting today _ returns to investors. when you watch

the meeting today in _ returns to investors. when you watch the meeting today in light _ returns to investors. when you watch the meeting today in light of- returns to investors. when you watch the meeting today in light of what i the meeting today in light of what these five pension companies had said about the reduced targets, what were the rest of the shareholders saying? are they raising red flags about this or putting pressure on the company? tt’s about this or putting pressure on the company?— about this or putting pressure on the coman ? �*, . ., ., the company? it's important to note that bp has — the company? it's important to note that bp has a _ the company? it's important to note that bp has a diverse _ the company? it's important to note that bp has a diverse group - the company? it's important to note that bp has a diverse group of - that bp has a diverse group of shareholders, you've got those who are ethical sustainable investors, those who are long—term investors like the university endowments, and then you have investors you don't care about climate but they do care about the financial impacts of the energy transition. but you also have those investors particularly in north america who don't recognise the energy transition risk, so bp is in a difficult place and trying to keep a diverse group of shareholders happy here. some are pushing for increased production and maximising output and further investment, but other investors are looking to bp and other companies to reduce their exposure to oil and gas into transition to other industries, and bp has set out a strategy to

detergents and the new other areas. they can articulate that new... in the community as a whole can help allocate capital to that to accelerate transition. just quickly, hel: e accelerate transition. just quickly, helge lund. _ accelerate transition. just quickly, helge lund, what— accelerate transition. just quickly, helge lund, what is— accelerate transition. just quickly, helge lund, what is his _ accelerate transition. just quickly, helge lund, what is his future - accelerate transition. just quickly, helge lund, what is his future as. helge lund, what is his future as chairman? t helge lund, what is his future as chairman?— chairman? i think that's difficult to sa at chairman? i think that's difficult to say at this — chairman? i think that's difficult to say at this point, _ chairman? i think that's difficult to say at this point, i'm - chairman? i think that's difficult to say at this point, i'm afraid. l to say at this point, i'm afraid. butjust because they didn't vote for him doesn't necessarily mean he's out? that's the point i'm trying to make. t he's out? that's the point i'm trying to make-— trying to make. i don't think necessarily, _ trying to make. i don't think necessarily, i— trying to make. i don't think necessarily, i wouldn't - trying to make. i don't think necessarily, i wouldn't want| trying to make. i don't think i necessarily, i wouldn't want to trying to make. i don't think - necessarily, i wouldn't want to make a call on that one. i think it's important ultimately that the companies listen to their shareholders and what they want, and articulate strategy and deliver in a consistent way to give investors the information they need to assess that strategy. information they need to assess that strate: . . ~ information they need to assess that strate: . . ,, , ., information they need to assess that strate: . . ,, i. ., information they need to assess that strate: . . ~' ., . ,, ., strategy. thank you for talking to us this evening. _ around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. an update on a story that's gathering pace in scotland, police investigating the murder of a pregnant teacher in glasgow found the body of a man and a reservoir.

nikki schiller is in the newsroom with more. nikki schiller is in the newsroom with more-— nikki schiller is in the newsroom withmore. . with more. police scotland say the body found — with more. police scotland say the body found in _ with more. police scotland say the body found in the _ with more. police scotland say the body found in the reservoir- with more. police scotland say the body found in the reservoir has - body found in the reservoir has yet to be formally identified, but it's believed to be that of david yates, the partner of morel star rock. he was wanted in connection with her murder. officers say the investigation is continuing but at this stage there is no suggestion that anyone else is involved. a car belonging to mr gates was found at the country park near glasgow and an extensive search had been taking place in the area. now she was found dead at her home on tuesday, she was 29 weeks pregnant. she was a teacher at the local primary school in the city, and the head teacher says the whole community is devastated. police liaison officers are supporting herfamily police liaison officers are supporting her family at the moment. thank you very much indeed for that, plenty more on that story on the bbc website and the app. you're live with bbc news.

the us tv hostjerry springer has died at the age of 79. best known for that riotous show where his guests would air disagreements in public, before he stepped in to offer his advice. shows like that ten a penny these days, but no doubt he was the trailblazer. he was born in london in highgate tube station, where his parents were taking shelterfrom a bombing raid in the second world war. soon after, they left for the united states. springer trained as a lawyer, then became the mayor of cincinatti before turning to a career in television. jerry springer�*s representative, bradley singer, said mr springer died peacefully on thursday at his home in chicago. in a statement, jene galvin, a lifelong friend and spokesman for the family, said... mr springer appeared on the bbc�*s hardtalk programme in 2014. stephen sackur asked him

if he looked back on his life with contentment. if you had your time over again, would you choose to have the political career that you tried to have that in the end didn't go national, would you still take the deal that you actually have in tv? if god comes to me and says, "gerald..." just my full name. "gerald, you can have another life and you can sign on for the exact life you've had or take your chances on another one." god, where do i sign? i am the luckiest person in the world. i have no right to complain about anything. i have a privileged, lucky life, and i say luck... i didn't choose to be born, i didn't choose to whom i be born, with what health, with what brain, in what country, i was born here in england, by the way.

so all of this is a gift. life is a gift. sure, i work hard, but lots of people work hard. i don't know why i got lucky. but would i sign on? hell, yeah. joining us now to discuss further is david bianculli, a tv historian and critic he previously interviewed jerry springer on several occasions. welcome to the programme. his legacy on daytime television is without doubt — i wonder if he took on the more difficult issues before the likes of oprah, would that be true? know, but he took them on at first when he showed up on television, he was doing issues, but he wasn't doing them the way oprah or phil donahue before her were doing them in trying to debate them and discuss them, and learn from them. he was, from almost the very beginning,

looking for issues that would have pros and cons, and people who would fight, and that's where he rose to a big stardom was having his people fight sometimes literally on air. tt fight sometimes literally on air. it was that humour to get on with people, and a very quick wit as well, did that come from the politics of the earlier part of his career? ., ., , . , . politics of the earlier part of his career? ., ., , . , career? not only was he a very good olitician career? not only was he a very good politician when _ career? not only was he a very good politician when he _ career? not only was he a very good politician when he was _ career? not only was he a very good politician when he was the _ career? not only was he a very good politician when he was the mayor i career? not only was he a very good politician when he was the mayor of| politician when he was the mayor of cincinnati, but off camera and all in, he was a nice person. off—camera, he sort of was self—deprecating and, like in the clip you'd just played, always talking about how lucky he was. and when he was dealing with his people on camera, he always seemed to be on their side, on camera, he always seemed to be on theirside, even on camera, he always seemed to be on their side, even though what he was doing was polarising the different sides. . �* , . , ., sides. that's an interesting word, polarised. — sides. that's an interesting word, polarised, because _ sides. that's an interesting word, polarised, because he _ sides. that's an interesting word, polarised, because he always - sides. that's an interesting word, - polarised, because he always spotted the polarisation in american society

before he became real. t the polarisation in american society before he became real.— before he became real. i think you are absolutely _ before he became real. i think you are absolutely onto _ before he became real. i think you are absolutely onto the _ before he became real. i think you are absolutely onto the reason - before he became real. i think you are absolutely onto the reason of. are absolutely onto the reason of his success. he was finding wedge issues and hitting that wedge as hard as he could. he had people on so they would come to blows. he's the only talk show i know that had a bodyguard as part of the on—air staff. that tells you what they were after after they did that show. so what is the then, do you think? i hate to say this so bluntly when what is the then, do you think? t hate to say this so bluntly when the man has just died hate to say this so bluntly when the man hasjust died and he hate to say this so bluntly when the man has just died and he seemed to be a very nice man, but the legacy of dragging television down. as a tv historian, i hope it goes like a fulcrum and the pendulum and it will go back and forth, but he did

nothing but reduced it to make a discourse, increase the anger, and stress and magnify the polarisation. you may have noticed this overseas, looking from your perspective, the us is really polarised right now. we cover it now and again on this programme laughter but he was popular, so popular we had a british version of the show over here, as well. david, thanks so much for being on the programme. thank you, and i apologise for my office. tt thank you, and i apologise for my office. ., ., . thank you, and i apologise for my office. . ~ office. it looks much like mine, thank you _ office. it looks much like mine, thank you very _ office. it looks much like mine, thank you very much. _ it has been quite a while coming — 2,000 years. but finally, the vatican is giving women a vote and a say in how the roman catholic church is run. and campaigners would say, "not before time." the church has faced a recruitment crisis in the last 50 years, and over that time it is women who have picked up the mantle,

fulfilling all sorts of leadership roles within the diocese. pope francis recognises that. and so this october, at the synod in rome women will be present. the vatican said 70 priests, consecrated women, deacons and lay catholics willjoin the bishops. half of the new entrants must be women and will have full voting rights. joining us now to discuss further is anna rowlands, professor of catholic social thought and practice at durham university. she works closely with the catholic church on issues to do with women. welcome to the programme. i know you've had some input into this, i'm sure you're one of the people who thinks it's about time.— thinks it's about time. yes, absolutely. _ thinks it's about time. yes, absolutely. and _ thinks it's about time. yes, absolutely. and lots - thinks it's about time. yes, absolutely. and lots of - thinks it's about time. yes, i absolutely. and lots of ways, thinks it's about time. yes, - absolutely. and lots of ways, this is an early fruit of what we think will be even biggerfruit is an early fruit of what we think will be even bigger fruit so believe —— fruits hopefully over october. this has been a really remarkable grassroots listening process around the globe, through the pandemic and its aftermath, clearly on the pit to make agenda of all the continental reports was that women's voices be heard, notjust heard and spoken in

the voice of others, but that they were able to speak in their own voices directly as part of this process. so this is an early fruit i think of that extruder process we've just been living through for the last two years. tt’s just been living through for the last two years-— just been living through for the last two years. it's pretty obvious that when it _ last two years. it's pretty obvious that when it votes, _ last two years. it's pretty obvious that when it votes, its _ last two years. it's pretty obvious that when it votes, its men - last two years. it's pretty obvious that when it votes, its men with i that when it votes, its men with male attitudes who are shaping the vote. how might this change the decision—making of the church? might it's often some of the decisions that it takes?— that it takes? interestingly the church has _ that it takes? interestingly the church has been _ that it takes? interestingly the church has been emphasising i that it takes? interestingly the - church has been emphasising since this announcement yesterday that women are there not to be the equivalent of mps or the general sin odd church in england, they are there is women who have been involved in the grassroots process and all the continents. so they want the memory of these extraordinary global conversations to be brought to rome and ensure that that process is kept honest to the base, to the grassroots, and they are entrusting women with the memory, if you like,

of that base process. and i think they're hoping that certainly there will be a diversity of experience, particularly of global representation, and that it will change the way the church thinks about maybe some of the questions that it faces. but it's the richness and diversity question, really, not just in terms of gender but of the experience of the church in africa, in asia, in oceania that this is not just a kind of european church, and so much decision—making in the past has been really focused — notjust mail, but european focus, as well. it's about a greater global representation, including of young people, as well. you representation, including of young people. as well-— representation, including of young people, as well. you hinted there's ma be people, as well. you hinted there's may be more _ people, as well. you hinted there's may be more to — people, as well. you hinted there's may be more to come, _ people, as well. you hinted there's may be more to come, the - people, as well. you hinted there's| may be more to come, the teaching people, as well. you hinted there's i may be more to come, the teaching of the church obviously has been that priests are god's representatives on earth, consecrating the bread and wine for the eucharist, and i can only be a man. is this the very earliest sign that maybe we are coming to the end of that? th

earliest sign that maybe we are coming to the end of that? in fact, what this really _ coming to the end of that? in fact, what this really is _ coming to the end of that? in fact, what this really is is _ coming to the end of that? in fact, what this really is is realising - coming to the end of that? in fact, what this really is is realising the l what this really is is realising the fruits of the second vatican council which took place in rome in the 19605, which took place in rome in the 1960s, and that council emphasised that in fact, the representatives of christ on earth are all the people of god, all the baptized. so this is a way of drawing the fruits of seeing the dignity of every baptized christian, drawing those fruits through into thinking about the critical issues that face the church from this generation now, and wanting the wisdom of the entire people of god in order to really face some pretty hard and challenging decisions, as well as really thinking about where the church is most vibrant and alive, and where we really need to be learning and placing our hope in the future. tt’s learning and placing our hope in the future. �*, . .,, ., . future. it's october in rome, which i'll watch that — future. it's october in rome, which i'll watch that with _ future. it's october in rome, which i'll watch that with interest. - future. it's october in rome, which i'll watch that with interest. thankl i'll watch that with interest. thank you for your time this evening. our panel are back tojoin us you for your time this evening. our panel are back to join us for the next hour of our show, we'll talk obviously about the situation in

sudan, some word from the army tonight that they are prepared to extend that 72 hour cease—fire, but no word yet from the rebels. stay with us. hello there. we've seen a lot of cloud again today, with rain developing more widely. there will be some changes in the next few days. tomorrow, a drier day than today and it's warming up a bitjust in time for the bank holiday weekend, although there will be some sharp showers around as well. earlier on today, it was particularly wet in cornwall, an inch of rain falling in places. since then, that heavier rain has pushed through the midlands towards the southeast of england. it's heading up towards east anglia and lincolnshire as well. there'll be a lot of cloud around overnight, but the worst of the rain tending to move away towards the end of the night. it will be a mild start to friday and quite a bit milder than of late actually in scotland. there'll still be some rain left from overnight first thing, especially across northern england. the worst that moves away out into the north sea.

we've got some damp weather heading down with that cloud in scotland. the rest of the uk probably brightening up a bit. some sunshine coming through that could lead to 1—2 showers, particularly in northern ireland. a few heavy ones here in the afternoon. but temperatures are getting up to 16 celsius here and could make 18—19 in the southeast as it brightens up. so, a warmer day, quite widely, compared with today. now, temperatures did get close to 40 celsius in southern parts of spain. we're not tapping into that hot weather. instead, our air is coming more from the azores. it does mean temperatures are going to be higher, but there's still some cold air in place across northern scotland and temperatures will be depressed in scotland and northern england underneath that cloud. england, wales and northern ireland seeing some sunshine, but also a few more showers that could be heavy and thundery. but those temperatures are continuing to rise a bit. could make 20 in the southeast of england, but still only around eight in northern scotland. into sunday, and quite a bit of cloud to come, maybe more showers breaking out, again, some of them heavy with the risk of thunder. wetter weather slides across northern ireland into western scotland.

so temperatures probably won't be quite so high, but still better than we've seen over the past few days. by the time we get to bank holiday monday, this area of high pressure is trying to build in from the atlantic. a little belatedly maybe, but there should be fewer showers around on monday. most of those highlighted there across northern scotland, east anglia in the southeast though one or two could develop elsewhere. but there will be some sunshine around. it's turning drier from the west. the winds will be quite light and temperatures reaching a pleasant 16—17 celsius.

hello, i'm christian fraser. this is the context. you see some people really dying for a lot of things. you can even see some bodies. you saw bodies lying in the street? yeah. we couldn't guarantee that the roads were safe, the evacuation routes were safe. and then even people that made it out... then we're hearing the horror stories at the border. a cease—fire is not necessarily a prelude to peace, _ and the situation could deteriorate over the coming days. _ welcome back. the fragile ceasefire in sudan runs

out in just under two hours' time, and then what? there are reports the army is ready to extended for another 72 hours that we are awaiting confirmation to that. our panel to guide us through it tonight, doug heye, former communications director for the republican national committee, and also andrew fisher, who was policy director for labour underjeremy corbyn. we will get reaction to government—planned reforms to the gambling industry, the biggest shake—up in 20 years. can we still trust which are for the news we consume —— can we still trust twitter? 11 new accounts were impersonating the los angeles police department. 2 million people read a verified tweet claiming sudan's rebel leader was dead. we are waiting, hoping the ceasefire in sudan holds. a 72—hour agreement runs out at midnight. the army has said it is prepared to extend it for another 72 hours,

but, as i say, no word yet from the rebel side, the rsf. we must presume that if fighting resumes, and there has been sporadic outbreaks today, that window to evacuate dual nationals will close. the raf have so far flown out nearly 900 people, but that is barely a quarter of those who registered with the foreign office. we are waiting for updated figures. the government said this afternoon it will keep going as long as it can, but quite obviously the evacuations are dependent on the security situation on the ground. let's cross to larnaka. lewis vaughanjones has been watching these planes come in all day. are you getting any update to the reports we are getting about the security situation and how will that affect operations through the night, do you think?— do you think? christian, we were nudted do you think? christian, we were nudged in _ do you think? christian, we were nudged in this — do you think? christian, we were nudged in this general— do you think? christian, we were nudged in this general direction i nudged in this general direction earlier on in the day, that there will continue to be flights coming in here late into the evening. it has just in here late into the evening. it hasjust gone 11pm and in here late into the evening. it has just gone 11pm and there are still plenty of activity here and we

are expecting more flights in. and remember, just on the typical time zone things here, the cease—fire, we have gotten another two hours of that, flights to take off and they still say three to four hours to land here, so it could be the early hours of the morning untilflights which have left while this cease—fire is still under way and could still land here. latest numbers as you said, 897 uk people have been brought here on eight flights. that was true as of 4pm, so when we get updated figures, clearly that number will go up. i wanted to thing why we came back here, a different location to where i spoke to you last hour stop this is the rescue coordination centre. we are a little closer to the annoy too, this is where those who have come off as uk military flights are supported, medical needs processed, helped,

plenty of ambulance is we have seen coming in and out —— closer to the runway. people getting the support they need. just to say, i saw some children by that white coach if you can see it there, and that is why we are keeping our distance a bit, we are keeping our distance a bit, we are keeping our distance a bit, we are keeping away from it, because obviously we don't want to fill many children, the people getting support and various operations till under way here. that and various operations till under wa here. �* ., , and various operations till under wa here. . .,, ., way here. at the top of the programme _ way here. at the top of the programme l _ way here. at the top of the programme i said - way here. at the top of the programme i said we - way here. at the top of the programme i said we had i way here. at the top of the - programme i said we had no word way here. at the top of the _ programme i said we had no word from the rebel side on this cease—fire. in literally the last minute, the rapid support forces have said they are willing to abide by another three a cease—fire in sudan. that is significant. we have seen some sporadic fighting today, and it is fragile, but the fact that the two sides are willing to observe an extension of that is positive news. absolutely, and an interesting addition to that, which is that all day, the uk government have been

urging people with uk passports to use this window of the cease—fire that expires in a couple of hours to get to khartoum, so get to those military plans, to fly out to safety here. however, we heard from the military from yesterday that while thatis military from yesterday that while that is the advice and that is the principal, if the conditions remained stable enough operations will continue, even if that cease—fire elapse without any continuation, so that does suggest that if that news does and up being confirmed and things do hold, if operationally on the ground, the militaryjudgment there on that airstrip north of khartoum is stable enough, then presumably the operations that are going on right here can continue.— here can continue. let's bring in our panel- _ here can continue. let's bring in our panel. there _ here can continue. let's bring in our panel. there is _ here can continue. let's bring in our panel. there is also - here can continue. let's bring in our panel. there is also at - here can continue. let's bring in our panel. there is also at the i our panel. there is also at the moment a press conference going on at the white house, so we've had some updated lines from the press

secretary. she says that the situation on the ground could worsen at any moment, they are urging americans to leave within the 24 hours, but it is a very different strategy from the white house. we don't see the american military on the ground, there is no evacuation efforts similar to what the uk is currently conducting from just north of khartoum. th currently conducting from 'ust north of khartoum.— of khartoum. in fact, we have been watchin: of khartoum. in fact, we have been watching what _ of khartoum. in fact, we have been watching what the _ of khartoum. in fact, we have been watching what the uk _ of khartoum. in fact, we have been watching what the uk government | of khartoum. in fact, we have been i watching what the uk government has been doing _ watching what the uk government has been doing with a lot ofjealousy, and there — been doing with a lot ofjealousy, and there are certainly a lot of questions _ and there are certainly a lot of questions for the biden administration for why they are not acting _ administration for why they are not acting in— administration for why they are not acting in this way. americans are feeling _ acting in this way. americans are feeling stranded, left to the own devices — feeling stranded, left to the own devices. it is not a great situation on the _ devices. it is not a great situation on the ground even with the good news _ on the ground even with the good news of— on the ground even with the good news of an— on the ground even with the good news of an extension possibly on the cease-fire _ news of an extension possibly on the cease—fire and the us government needs— cease—fire and the us government needs to _ cease—fire and the us government needs to act and take care of us citizens. that should be its prime directive — citizens. that should be its prime directive from the embassy. there is clearl an directive from the embassy. there is clearly an inclination _ directive from the embassy. there is clearly an inclination not _ directive from the embassy. there is clearly an inclination not to - directive from the embassy. there is clearly an inclination not to have i clearly an inclination not to have any repeatable we had in kabul and actually the number of american citizens is a very different order actually to uk and europeans. there are 16,000 americans, but that does

necessitate a much bigger operation. does the 72 hour cease—fire, if that is extended, give them a window and opportunity to do that? tt is extended, give them a window and opportunity to do that?— opportunity to do that? it does the opportunity — opportunity to do that? it does the opportunity -- _ opportunity to do that? it does the opportunity -- gives _ opportunity to do that? it does the opportunity -- gives them - opportunity to do that? it does the opportunity -- gives them the i opportunity —— gives them the opportunity —— gives them the opportunity to do so, and if it goes well, _ opportunity to do so, and if it goes well, this— opportunity to do so, and if it goes well, this will not be remembered, but this— well, this will not be remembered, but this runs the risk of being too little. _ but this runs the risk of being too little. too — but this runs the risk of being too little, too late, and that is if it is extended for 72 hours or more, but also _ is extended for 72 hours or more, but also even within that window whether — but also even within that window whether or not they are going to be able to— whether or not they are going to be able to get— whether or not they are going to be able to get this done. what we're hearing _ able to get this done. what we're hearing from americans there is they feel stranded by government, and that is— feel stranded by government, and that is not— feel stranded by government, and that is not the america is back, we are professionals in the biden white house, _ are professionals in the biden white house, in _ are professionals in the biden white house, in the way that the trump white _ house, in the way that the trump white house were not. it shows like afghanistan was a problem for biden and a _ afghanistan was a problem for biden and a global fiasco. he runs the risk of— and a global fiasco. he runs the risk of either doing too little or not being — risk of either doing too little or not being able to accommodate the 'ob not being able to accommodate the job at— not being able to accommodate the job at all _ not being able to accommodate the 'ob at all. �* , �* , job at all. andrew fisher, there's been a bit _ job at all. andrew fisher, there's been a bit of _ job at all. andrew fisher, there's been a bit of a _ job at all. andrew fisher, there's been a bit of a row _ job at all. andrew fisher, there's been a bit of a row here - job at all. andrew fisher, there's been a bit of a row here today i been a bit of a row here today because we have got one british

citizen who has made his way to khartoum airport who was shot, and it seems to be suffering from sepsis at the airport, he is being treated, but he has also got his very elderly mother with him who does not have a visa is not —— and is not eligible, and they are refusing to take her, and so he is refusing and is still at the airfield in khartoum. what do you make of the situation and what you make of the situation and what you think the british government should be doing for those british citizens who have very elderly parents that they are bringing with them? , . ., ., . ,, them? they have got to take them in. it is 'ust a them? they have got to take them in. it isjust a matter _ them? they have got to take them in. it isjust a matter of _ them? they have got to take them in. it isjust a matter of practicality, i it isjust a matter of practicality, really~ _ it isjust a matter of practicality, really. people _ it isjust a matter of practicality, really. people are _ it isjust a matter of practicality, really. people are unlikely- it isjust a matter of practicality, really. people are unlikely to i it isjust a matter of practicality, | really. people are unlikely to get on a plane — really. people are unlikely to get on a plane and— really. people are unlikely to get on a plane and abandoned i really. people are unlikely to get on a plane and abandoned their. really. people are unlikely to get i on a plane and abandoned their close relatives. _ on a plane and abandoned their close relatives, whether— on a plane and abandoned their close relatives, whether it _ on a plane and abandoned their close relatives, whether it is— on a plane and abandoned their close relatives, whether it is their- relatives, whether it is their parents. _ relatives, whether it is their parents, their— relatives, whether it is their parents, their children, i relatives, whether it is theirl parents, their children, their siblings, _ parents, their children, their siblings, they— parents, their children, their siblings, they are _ parents, their children, their siblings, they are not - parents, their children, their siblings, they are not going i parents, their children, their. siblings, they are not going to parents, their children, their- siblings, they are not going to do it, siblings, they are not going to do it. so— siblings, they are not going to do it. so the — siblings, they are not going to do it, so the government _ siblings, they are not going to do it, so the government has - siblings, they are not going to do it, so the government has to i siblings, they are not going to doi it, so the government has to show siblings, they are not going to do. it, so the government has to show a bit of latitude — it, so the government has to show a bit of latitude here _ it, so the government has to show a bit of latitude here and that - it, so the government has to show a bit of latitude here and that would i bit of latitude here and that would be sensible — bit of latitude here and that would be sensible. there _ bit of latitude here and that would be sensible. there is— bit of latitude here and that would be sensible. there is also- bit of latitude here and that would be sensible. there is also a i bit of latitude here and that would i be sensible. there is also a number of people _ be sensible. there is also a number of people who are _ be sensible. there is also a number of people who are british _ be sensible. there is also a numberj of people who are british residents, notable _ of people who are british residents, notable to— of people who are british residents, notable to be — of people who are british residents,

not able to be taken _ of people who are british residents, not able to be taken back _ of people who are british residents, not able to be taken back in, - not able to be taken back in, including _ not able to be taken back in, including those _ not able to be taken back in, including those who - not able to be taken back in, including those who work i not able to be taken back in, including those who work ini not able to be taken back in, i including those who work in our not able to be taken back in, - including those who work in our nhs who are _ including those who work in our nhs who are over there _ including those who work in our nhs who are over there with _ including those who work in our nhs who are over there with different i who are over there with different medical— who are over there with different medical charities _ who are over there with different medical charities and _ who are over there with different medical charities and so - who are over there with different medical charities and so on i who are over there with different medical charities and so on whoi who are over there with different i medical charities and so on who are trying _ medical charities and so on who are trying to— medical charities and so on who are trying to get — medical charities and so on who are trying to get back, _ medical charities and so on who are trying to get back, and _ medical charities and so on who are trying to get back, and so _ medical charities and so on who are trying to get back, and so far- trying to get back, and so far cannot— trying to get back, and so far cannot welcome _ trying to get back, and so far cannot welcome a _ trying to get back, and so far cannot welcome a so - trying to get back, and so far cannot welcome a so there i trying to get back, and so far. cannot welcome a so there are trying to get back, and so far- cannot welcome a so there are some bil cannot welcome a so there are some big issues— cannot welcome a so there are some big issues for— cannot welcome a so there are some big issues for the _ cannot welcome a so there are some big issues for the government i cannot welcome a so there are some big issues for the government to i big issues for the government to resolve, — big issues for the government to resolve, and _ big issues for the government to resolve, and if— big issues for the government to resolve, and if there _ big issues for the government to resolve, and if there is - big issues for the government to resolve, and if there is good i big issues for the government to i resolve, and if there is good news, there is— resolve, and if there is good news, there is another— resolve, and if there is good news, there is another 72 _ resolve, and if there is good news, there is another 72 hour— resolve, and if there is good news, i there is another 72 hour cease—fire, that gives _ there is another 72 hour cease—fire, that gives the — there is another 72 hour cease—fire, that gives the government - there is another 72 hour cease—fire, that gives the government more i there is another 72 hour cease—fire, i that gives the government more scope to get— that gives the government more scope to get people — that gives the government more scope to get people out _ that gives the government more scope to get people out. and _ that gives the government more scope to get people out. and dependents- to get people out. and dependents and relatives— to get people out. and dependents and relatives where _ to get people out. and dependents and relatives where appropriate. i and relatives where appropriate. them _ and relatives where appropriate. them have _ and relatives where appropriate. the... have someone _ and relatives where appropriate. the... have someone on- and relatives where appropriate. the... have someone on the i and relatives where appropriate. - the... have someone on the programme last night. tarig babikir... he was going to come out, and he could not because he also had his parents in khartoum, and so i made contact with him todayjust parents in khartoum, and so i made contact with him today just to parents in khartoum, and so i made contact with him todayjust to see what he was doing and he only had two percent on his phone. he has literally this minute sent me a message. he said, i want to thank the british government and the bbc

for being there. being british is a source of pride and honour and i felt that with the coverage of the news, and after having a second thought today, about getting to the airport again, i thought it would be better if i have my entire family. moving them to the port of sudan and i will work my way out from there as opposed to abandoning them. andrew, this is the point. he was going on a mercy mission, he was going out of the country, find some medicine and financially back into the country to hop his parents, and now he is going to try and move them, but we have spoken to one person tonight, or you're trying to come who was out in the port of sudan and there's nothing for them. there is an rfc 17 there, but it is going back to larnaka empty the ship hms lancaster is not helping people evacuate. do we need for american and uk citizen something of a very different order at the port of sudan? irate

something of a very different order at the port of sudan?— at the port of sudan? we clearly do. if ou look at the port of sudan? we clearly do. if you look at... _ at the port of sudan? we clearly do. if you look at... there _ at the port of sudan? we clearly do. if you look at... there were - if you look at... there were mistakes _ if you look at... there were mistakes made _ if you look at... there were mistakes made with - if you look at... there were mistakes made with the i if you look at... there were - mistakes made with the evacuation from afghanistan _ mistakes made with the evacuation from afghanistan and _ mistakes made with the evacuation from afghanistan and looks - mistakes made with the evacuation from afghanistan and looks like i from afghanistan and looks like those _ from afghanistan and looks like those lessons _ from afghanistan and looks like those lessons have _ from afghanistan and looks like those lessons have not- from afghanistan and looks like those lessons have not been. from afghanistan and looks like i those lessons have not been fully learned _ those lessons have not been fully learned here _ those lessons have not been fully learned here. it _ those lessons have not been fully learned here. it is _ those lessons have not been fully learned here. it is a _ those lessons have not been fully learned here. it is a different- learned here. it is a different magnitude _ learned here. it is a different magnitude of— learned here. it is a different magnitude of a _ learned here. it is a different magnitude of a very- learned here. it is a differentj magnitude of a very different situation, _ magnitude of a very different situation, but _ magnitude of a very different situation, but still— magnitude of a very different situation, but still it - magnitude of a very different situation, but still it is- situation, but still it is important. _ situation, but still it is important, and - situation, but still it is important, and if- situation, but still it is important, and if youi situation, but still it is- important, and if you look at what _ important, and if you look at what i_ important, and if you look at what i note _ important, and if you look at what... i note the _ important, and if you look at what... i note the interest. important, and if you look atj what... i note the interest of important, and if you look at i what... i note the interest of what doug _ what... i note the interest of what doug was — what... i note the interest of what doug was saying _ what... i note the interest of what doug was saying about _ what... i note the interest of what doug was saying about the - what... i note the interest of what doug was saying about the us, i what... i note the interest of what| doug was saying about the us, but what... i note the interest of what i doug was saying about the us, but if you look— doug was saying about the us, but if you look at _ doug was saying about the us, but if you look at what _ doug was saying about the us, but if you look at what france _ doug was saying about the us, but if you look at what france and - doug was saying about the us, but if| you look at what france and germany were doing. — you look at what france and germany were doing, which _ you look at what france and germany were doing, which was _ you look at what france and germany were doing, which was that _ you look at what france and germany were doing, which was that quitting i were doing, which was that quitting their citizens — were doing, which was that quitting their citizens even _ were doing, which was that quitting their citizens even before _ were doing, which was that quitting their citizens even before the i their citizens even before the cease-fire. _ their citizens even before the cease-fire. in— their citizens even before the cease—fire, in advance i their citizens even before the cease—fire, in advance of- their citizens even before thei cease—fire, in advance of what their citizens even before the - cease—fire, in advance of what we were _ cease—fire, in advance of what we were doing. — cease—fire, in advance of what we were doing. they— cease—fire, in advance of what we were doing, they have _ cease—fire, in advance of what we were doing, they have got - cease—fire, in advance of what we were doing, they have got more i cease—fire, in advance of what we l were doing, they have got more of their citizens — were doing, they have got more of their citizens out _ were doing, they have got more of their citizens out —— _ were doing, they have got more of their citizens out —— evacuating. ii their citizens out —— evacuating. i think— their citizens out —— evacuating. i think there — their citizens out —— evacuating. i think there will— their citizens out —— evacuating. i think there will be _ their citizens out —— evacuating. i think there will be questions - their citizens out —— evacuating. i think there will be questions to l their citizens out —— evacuating. ll think there will be questions to be answered — think there will be questions to be answered by— think there will be questions to be answered by the _ think there will be questions to be answered by the government, - think there will be questions to be answered by the government, and whether— answered by the government, and whether more _ answered by the government, and whether more should _ answered by the government, and whether more should be - answered by the government, and whether more should be done, . answered by the government, and| whether more should be done, but clearly _ whether more should be done, but clearly there's _ whether more should be done, but clearly there's got _ whether more should be done, but clearly there's got to _ whether more should be done, but clearly there's got to be _ whether more should be done, but clearly there's got to be this - clearly there's got to be this latitude _ clearly there's got to be this latitude to— clearly there's got to be this latitude to try _ clearly there's got to be this latitude to try and _ clearly there's got to be this latitude to try and extend i clearly there's got to be this. latitude to try and extend the situation _ latitude to try and extend the situation because _ latitude to try and extend the situation because people - latitude to try and extend the | situation because people have contacts— situation because people have contacts family _ situation because people have contacts family relationships, | situation because people have . contacts family relationships, so this is— contacts family relationships, so this is not— contacts family relationships, so this is not always _ contacts family relationships, so this is not always simple, - contacts family relationships, so this is not always simple, but i this is not always simple, but clearly— this is not always simple, but clearly peorrte _ this is not always simple, but clearly people are _ this is not always simple, but clearly people are not - this is not always simple, but clearly people are not going i this is not always simple, buti clearly people are not going to leave — clearly people are not going to leave their _ clearly people are not going to leave their loved _ clearly people are not going to leave their loved ones - clearly people are not going to leave their loved ones and - clearly people are not going to - leave their loved ones and abandon them _ leave their loved ones and abandon them in _ leave their loved ones and abandon them in a _ leave their loved ones and abandon them in a war— leave their loved ones and abandon them in a war zone, _ leave their loved ones and abandon them in a war zone, so _ leave their loved ones and abandon them in a war zone, so hopefully. them in a war zone, so hopefully with this — them in a war zone, so hopefully with this extra _ them in a war zone, so hopefully with this extra window, - them in a war zone, so hopefully with this extra window, if- them in a war zone, so hopefully with this extra window, if it - with this extra window, if it does happen, — with this extra window, if it does happen, peepte _ with this extra window, if it does happen, peepte can— with this extra window, if it does happen, people can get- with this extra window, if it does happen, people can get out. - with this extra window, if it does happen, people can get out. we| happen, people can get out. we should _ happen, people can get out. we should not— happen, people can get out. we should not forget _ happen, people can get out. we should not forget amongst - happen, people can get out. we should not forget amongst all.

happen, people can get out. we should not forget amongst all of this there — should not forget amongst all of this there are _ should not forget amongst all of this there are sudanese - should not forget amongst all of this there are sudanese peoplei this there are sudanese people living _ this there are sudanese people living there _ this there are sudanese people living there in _ this there are sudanese people living there in the _ this there are sudanese people living there in the middle - this there are sudanese people living there in the middle of. this there are sudanese people living there in the middle of a i living there in the middle of a conflict, — living there in the middle of a conflict, hundreds— living there in the middle of a conflict, hundreds have - living there in the middle of a i conflict, hundreds have already living there in the middle of a - conflict, hundreds have already been kitted _ conflict, hundreds have already been kitted in— conflict, hundreds have already been kitted in the — conflict, hundreds have already been killed in the early— conflict, hundreds have already been killed in the early fighting _ conflict, hundreds have already been killed in the early fighting for - conflict, hundreds have already been killed in the early fighting for the - killed in the early fighting for the cease-fire. — killed in the early fighting for the cease-fire. so— killed in the early fighting for the cease—fire, so this _ killed in the early fighting for the cease—fire, so this is _ killed in the early fighting for the cease—fire, so this is a _ killed in the early fighting for the cease—fire, so this is a horrible . cease—fire, so this is a horrible situation — cease—fire, so this is a horrible situation. which— cease—fire, so this is a horrible situation. which must- cease—fire, so this is a horrible situation. which must not- cease—fire, so this is a horrible. situation. which must not forget about— situation. which must not forget about the — situation. which must not forget about the people _ situation. which must not forget about the people of _ situation. which must not forget about the people of sudan - situation. which must not forget about the people of sudan as . situation. which must not forget. about the people of sudan as well once foreign — about the people of sudan as well once foreign nationals _ about the people of sudan as well once foreign nationals are - once foreign nationals are evacuated~ _ once foreign nationals are evacuated.— once foreign nationals are evacuated. �*, , , ., evacuated. let's pick up that theme. i want to evacuated. let's pick up that theme. i want to say — evacuated. let's pick up that theme. i want to say goodbye _ evacuated. let's pick up that theme. i want to say goodbye to _ evacuated. let's pick up that theme. i want to say goodbye to lewis, - evacuated. let's pick up that theme. i want to say goodbye to lewis, who| i want to say goodbye to lewis, who has been all day there at the airport. we will let you go. we can speak to donald gillies, whose niece, jennifer, has just arrived back in the uk with herfour children but had to leave her sudanese husband behind in khartoum. thank you for being with us this evening. you've probably heard andrew fisher talking about this agonising decision that people had to make. and that is relevant to your family. to make. and that is relevant to your family-— to make. and that is relevant to your family. yes, it is, christian. thank you _ your family. yes, it is, christian. thank you very _ your family. yes, it is, christian. thank you very much _ your family. yes, it is, christian. thank you very much for - your family. yes, it is, christian. thank you very much for inviting | your family. yes, it is, christian. i thank you very much for inviting on the programme. we are so lucky and so gratefulfor so many the programme. we are so lucky and so grateful for so many people around the world that has helped jennifer and the four children get

to safety, but we are also mixed with mohammed, who is a sudanese national, and he is stuck in a perilous situation. it is his choice. he could have got on the fight withjennifer, but he wanted to stay and help. he is a man of peace and he wants to stay and help his country and his family get through this if he can. i am trained to advise him to go to the port of sudan, as previous panelist said, because i think the port of sudan for the majority of refugees, internal refugees that are stuck, if this cease—fire rakes, will have at least some sort of military first aid protection within the country that the two opposing forces maybe not get to them —— i am trying to advise them for they will get some sort of sanction. there is a massive

issue here over and above what the case is in the moment. it is brilliant news, just a minute ago, that the two opposing factions are thinking of or trying to consider another 72 hour window. that will relieve a lot of pressure on the nations that have been, let's be frank, slow in the uptake to protect their citizens, even though there could've been more preparation. we could've been more preparation. we could have had more numbers, we could have had more numbers, we could have had more numbers, we could have had... just could have had more numbers, we could have had...— could have had... just on that oint, could have had... just on that point, donald, _ could have had... just on that point, donald, was _ could have had. .. just on that point, donald, was your- could have had... just on that point, donald, was your niece jennifer on a list? was there a list i was compiled before things went pear—shaped earlier in the week? he. pear-shaped earlier in the week? no. no. pear—shaped earlier in the week? tic. no. jennifer had done after the british citizens had to register on the list, so here is one lesson for the foreign office. if you are in an unstable country you need to have updated lists every two months of

every month, so that you are ready to go and you are ready to protect your citizens. the ambassadors were out of the country! let your citizens. the ambassadors were out of the country!— out of the country! let me “ust a few thoughts i out of the country! let me “ust a few thoughts on i out of the country! let me “ust a few thoughts on that * out of the country! let me “ust a few thoughts on that from h out of the country! let me just a few thoughts on that from our . out of the country! let me just a - few thoughts on that from our panel, because, doug, you will know, the risk assessments are done regularly, but this has been criticism of the foreign office, that there is... there was not this list available that they could jump to as and when things deteriorated. yet. that they could jump to as and when things deteriorated.— things deteriorated. yet, if they don't have _ things deteriorated. yet, if they don't have that, _ things deteriorated. yet, if they don't have that, they _ things deteriorated. yet, if they don't have that, they not - things deteriorated. yet, if they i don't have that, they not updating it regularly, that is a problem. again, — it regularly, that is a problem. again, in — it regularly, that is a problem. again, in the united states, we are looking _ again, in the united states, we are looking at— again, in the united states, we are looking at the job uk government has done with— looking at the job uk government has done with some mv. you have done a tletter— done with some mv. you have done a betteriob _ done with some mv. you have done a betterjob than we have, does not mean _ betterjob than we have, does not mean it— betterjob than we have, does not mean it has— betterjob than we have, does not mean it has been perfect, but the port of— mean it has been perfect, but the port of sudan is smart and interesting. what we have seen this quite _ interesting. what we have seen this quite often — interesting. what we have seen this quite often the evacuation don't happen— quite often the evacuation don't happen through the air, and those can happen too, specifically about when _ can happen too, specifically about when we — can happen too, specifically about when we had to evaporate americans in lebanon. —

when we had to evaporate americans in lebanon, a lot of that happened through— in lebanon, a lot of that happened through marines and naval troops and ships _ through marines and naval troops and ships this— through marines and naval troops and ships. this can happen here as well, and so _ ships. this can happen here as well, and so we _ ships. this can happen here as well, and so we can— ships. this can happen here as well, and so we can have a two prong approach. — and so we can have a two prong approach, but we need both prongs, and at _ approach, but we need both prongs, and at this— approach, but we need both prongs, and at this point with the united states— and at this point with the united states we — and at this point with the united states we are not doing any of that. and the _ states we are not doing any of that. and the other lesson, andrew, and i heard this express today, is how important it is to have really good language speakers on the ground. a lot of the funding for language lessons within the cd0, a lot of that has been whittled away, and it is crucially important because we have an ambassador there who knows his stuff, who has really integrated himself in the politics in khartoum and he is instrument when negotiating a cease—fire, so it shows that actually in these hotspots around the world, it really does pay if you can train people in sandy right people to those areas. yeah, absolutely —— and send right people _ yeah, absolutely —— and send right people if— yeah, absolutely —— and send right people. if you _ yeah, absolutely —— and send right people. if you took— yeah, absolutely —— and send right people. if you look at _ yeah, absolutely —— and send right people. if you look at the - yeah, absolutely —— and send right people. if you look at the fort - people. if you look at the fort office — people. if you look at the fort office budget, _ people. if you look at the fort office budget, as— people. if you look at the fort office budget, as it _ people. if you look at the fort office budget, as it was, - people. if you look at the fort office budget, as it was, over| people. if you look at the fort. office budget, as it was, over the last ten— office budget, as it was, over the

last ten or— office budget, as it was, over the last ten or 12 _ office budget, as it was, over the last ten or 12 years, _ office budget, as it was, over the last ten or 12 years, it _ office budget, as it was, over the last ten or 12 years, it has - last ten or 12 years, it has had massive — last ten or 12 years, it has had massive cutbacks. _ last ten or 12 years, it has had massive cutbacks. i— last ten or 12 years, it has had massive cutbacks. i don't- last ten or 12 years, it has hadl massive cutbacks. i don't know last ten or 12 years, it has had - massive cutbacks. i don't know the numbers— massive cutbacks. i don't know the numbers specifically in _ massive cutbacks. i don't know the numbers specifically in sudan, - massive cutbacks. i don't know the numbers specifically in sudan, the | numbers specifically in sudan, the kind of— numbers specifically in sudan, the kind of staffing _ numbers specifically in sudan, the kind of staffing there, _ numbers specifically in sudan, the kind of staffing there, but - numbers specifically in sudan, the kind of staffing there, but across i kind of staffing there, but across the piece. — kind of staffing there, but across the piece. the _ kind of staffing there, but across the piece, the foreign— kind of staffing there, but across the piece, the foreign office - kind of staffing there, but across the piece, the foreign office has had massive _ the piece, the foreign office has had massive cuts— the piece, the foreign office has had massive cuts to _ the piece, the foreign office has had massive cuts to its - the piece, the foreign office has had massive cuts to its budget. the piece, the foreign office has l had massive cuts to its budget and that is— had massive cuts to its budget and that is bound — had massive cuts to its budget and that is bound to— had massive cuts to its budget and that is bound to have _ had massive cuts to its budget and that is bound to have had - had massive cuts to its budget and that is bound to have had an- had massive cuts to its budget andl that is bound to have had an impact on the _ that is bound to have had an impact on the situation _ that is bound to have had an impact on the situation like _ that is bound to have had an impact on the situation like this _ that is bound to have had an impact on the situation like this as - that is bound to have had an impact on the situation like this as well. i on the situation like this as well. ithink— on the situation like this as well. i think as — on the situation like this as well. i think as well, _ on the situation like this as well. i think as well, there's _ on the situation like this as well. i think as well, there's been - on the situation like this as well. i think as well, there's been a i i think as well, there's been a change — i think as well, there's been a change in _ i think as well, there's been a change in foreign— i think as well, there's been a change in foreign secretary. i think as well, there's been a . change in foreign secretary since afghanistan _ change in foreign secretary since afghanistan. that _ change in foreign secretary since afghanistan. that clearly - change in foreign secretary since afghanistan. that clearly was - change in foreign secretary since afghanistan. that clearly was not well handted _ afghanistan. that clearly was not well handled on _ afghanistan. that clearly was not well handled on the _ afghanistan. that clearly was not well handled on the uk— afghanistan. that clearly was not well handled on the uk side. - afghanistan. that clearly was not well handled on the uk side. and afghanistan. that clearly was not - well handled on the uk side. and i'm not sure _ well handled on the uk side. and i'm not sure what — well handled on the uk side. and i'm not sure what lessons _ well handled on the uk side. and i'm not sure what lessons have _ well handled on the uk side. and i'm not sure what lessons have been - not sure what lessons have been learned — not sure what lessons have been learned there as _ not sure what lessons have been learned there as well, _ not sure what lessons have been learned there as well, and - not sure what lessons have been - learned there as well, and obviously it depends _ learned there as well, and obviously it depends as — learned there as well, and obviously it depends as well— learned there as well, and obviously it depends as well on _ learned there as well, and obviously it depends as well on where - learned there as well, and obviously it depends as well on where our- it depends as well on where our military— it depends as well on where our military assets— it depends as well on where our military assets are _ it depends as well on where our military assets are deployed - it depends as well on where our military assets are deployed as| military assets are deployed as where — military assets are deployed as where the _ military assets are deployed as where the army— military assets are deployed as where the army can _ military assets are deployed as where the army can get - military assets are deployed as where the army can get to - military assets are deployed as where the army can get to in. military assets are deployed as . where the army can get to in quick time _ where the army can get to in quick time as— where the army can get to in quick time as well, — where the army can get to in quick time as well, whether— where the army can get to in quick time as well, whether that - where the army can get to in quick time as well, whether that is- time as well, whether that is getting to _ time as well, whether that is getting to sudan _ time as well, whether that is getting to sudan by - time as well, whether that is getting to sudan by plane . time as well, whether that is getting to sudan by plane or| time as well, whether that is. getting to sudan by plane or by sea as wett~ _ getting to sudan by plane or by sea as wett~ those _ getting to sudan by plane or by sea as well. those are _ getting to sudan by plane or by sea as well. those are all— as well. those are all considerations - as well. those are all considerations that. as well. those are all. considerations that i'm as well. those are all- considerations that i'm sure as well. those are all— considerations that i'm sure will be enunciated — considerations that i'm sure will be enunciated afterwards. _ considerations that i'm sure will be enunciated afterwards.— enunciated afterwards. donald, i must ask you — enunciated afterwards. donald, i must ask you about _ enunciated afterwards. donald, i must ask you about your - enunciated afterwards. donald, i must ask you about your niece, l must ask you about your niece, jennifer. has she got some sleep? what is the mental condition, if you will, of the family? what is the plan now?—

plan now? jennifer has been unbelievably _ plan now? jennifer has been unbelievably lucky. - plan now? jennifer has been unbelievably lucky. she - plan now? jennifer has been unbelievably lucky. she had| plan now? jennifer has been l unbelievably lucky. she had to plan now? jennifer has been - unbelievably lucky. she had to go through that don't like to get to the airbase and they were under fire to get to the airbase. they were really, really lucky. that was touch and go. there is a story there that is coming later. she is home. the military, everybody has been fantastic. force commit at plymouth gave us an e—mail today to give her a big hug, so they got on great with everybody. she is home in glasgow at the moment, resting, she is not speaking to too many media. the journey to the airbase was overwhelming. so we need to see just how that is going to affect her. we are hoping we'll get her home tomorrow, all dependent on travel arrangements, maybe tomorrow afternoon and that, and her mum and that will look after her and she will be spoiled rotten! we are very worried for the sudanese people, if

this cease—fire collapses. i am really pleased the rdf have put a major force into the north of khartoum stop —— raf. i think i would be a secure location. i hope they keep that, as the american gem and said, the two pronged approach. we have got on the ground, let's get a first aid hospital in there, humanitarian aid in there, let's build on that, so that regardless of the situation on the ground, we can help everybody that is there or as many as we possibly can. donald, thank ou many as we possibly can. donald, thank you for— many as we possibly can. donald, thank you for coming _ many as we possibly can. donald, thank you for coming on - many as we possibly can. donald, thank you for coming on the - thank you for coming on the programme. give our best tojennifer and of course we are sending our best wishes to mow as well. thank you very much. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. they're simple. not entirely without pain

but involve little more than rolling up your sleeve and looking away. now it's hoped that a blood test could help speed up the process of diagnosing and treating lung cancer. a far cry from the current option. it goes with the bronchoscope into your lung and tries to take a piece of tissue. the other option is to do it with a guided biopsy, so the radiologist will go up from outside with a needle to your lung. patients in wales that are diagnosed at the advanced stage, sometimes they become too unwell, even die, before we can get the test results to them. the team at the medical genetics service in cardiff are now conducting trials, involving patients with stage three and four lung cancer, with the hope that, in the future, blood test alone can replace invasive tissue biopsies. you're live with bbc news. the cost of a homemade cheese sandwich hasjumped by over

a third in the past year. the bbc has been costing the price of two slices of white bread, a serving of butter and mature cheddar, and we think it is risen 40p, up 37% over a year. and when you think that 3 billion sandwiches are bought —— and when you think that 3 billion sandwiches are consumed in the uk each year, that's affecting quite a lot of us. doug heye, when i saw this story, i thought of you, and the reason i thought of you is we had a chat the last time you about why president biden's numbers were so low given that the job levels would good, the economy had avoided a recession, inflation was certain to calm down, and you said to me, that is no good if people do not feel it in their pocket, and it is that sort of statistic that i've just laid out for a cheese sandwich that really makes sense to people. i that really makes sense to people. i think absolutely, and in fact people are feeling it in their pockets, peopie — are feeling it in their pockets, people are feeling it here, obviously in the uk as well for my

friend _ obviously in the uk as well for my friend anna — obviously in the uk as well for my friend anna ritchie is one of the offenders of the company, and she had another and then a partner, they sell egg _ had another and then a partner, they sell egg whites —— one of the founders _ sell egg whites —— one of the founders. she has told me for over a year now— founders. she has told me for over a year now about how the supply chain has affected her costs and what she has affected her costs and what she has to _ has affected her costs and what she has to do. _ has affected her costs and what she has to do, and they're struggling like everybody else is in dealing with inflation. it also league is passed — with inflation. it also league is passed on to the customer. and to be completely— passed on to the customer. and to be completely serious and somewhat facetious — completely serious and somewhat facetious at the same time, they are going _ facetious at the same time, they are going to _ facetious at the same time, they are going to be — facetious at the same time, they are going to be a lot of eggs sold over the next week or so, in the uk but also here in— the next week or so, in the uk but also here in the united states, a lot also here in the united states, a tot of— also here in the united states, a lot of people are going to be making the coronation quiche that buckingham palace just put out. and prices _ buckingham palace just put out. and prices are _ buckingham palace just put out. and prices are not what they were three months _ prices are not what they were three months ago, but they are still much more _ months ago, but they are still much more than they were two years ago. peopie _ more than they were two years ago. peopie are _ more than they were two years ago. people are feeling it when we talk about— people are feeling it when we talk about eggs, milk, cheese, bread, on and on. _ about eggs, milk, cheese, bread, on and on. and — about eggs, milk, cheese, bread, on and on, and you see it and feel it every day — and on, and you see it and feel it every day-— every day. yes, the coronation . uiche. every day. yes, the coronation quiche- have _ every day. yes, the coronation quiche. have you _ every day. yes, the coronation quiche. have you made - every day. yes, the coronation quiche. have you made the - every day. yes, the coronation - quiche. have you made the coronation quiche. have you made the coronation quiche. did you send me an e—mail to

say that you had made it? flat quiche. did you send me an e-mailto say that you had made it?— say that you had made it? not yet. laughter but you are right. i am pleased the cheese sandwich has got the headlines and egg and chris has not... we are making light of it, but this is a serious issue. andrew, we have parents switching from sandwiches to school dinners in order to save money.— sandwiches to school dinners in order to save money. yeah, you've also not order to save money. yeah, you've also got a — order to save money. yeah, you've also got a record _ order to save money. yeah, you've also got a record amounts - order to save money. yeah, you've also got a record amounts of- also got a record amounts of children now being fed by food banks, to take it up 11 even more serious, so this is a real problem, and uk currently has the highest rate of inflation both within western europe and within the g7. inflation is going to go down over the coming year, but i think people enjoy understand that does not mean prices are coming down, it means the rate increase is slowing. the prices are going to go up as slightly as lower rate. this is a real problem for people's finances and some of this, yes, it is to do with the global pressures and so on, but some

of this as well is to do with a lot of —— a bit of profiteering with some of the companies. energy committees are making profits at the moment. there is been a massive windfall tax on those, but there's more that can be done. the supermarkets we need to look at, as well as some of the manufacturers. tesco has made £3 billion in profits over the last two years. that is equivalent of £400 in profits from every household that stops at tesco. not just to every household that stops at tesco. notjust to pick on tesco, i have the figures for them on hand. and of course you're seeing rents and mortgages going up as well, so what this means is there is a squeeze right across the economy. people are spending a large amount of the money on basics, on food, on energy, on housing, and that means there's less for the ledger centres, for hospitality, for other things, net means there's a real risk that certain parts of the economy will have big knock on effects.- have big knock on effects. there are. we have big knock on effects. there are- we had _ have big knock on effects. there are. we had reports _ have big knock on effects. there

are. we had reports on - have big knock on effects. there are. we had reports on the - have big knock on effects. therej are. we had reports on the bbc, have big knock on effects. there are. we had reports on the bbc, the health of the nation. we are getting sicker and poor and that it's a knock on effect on the economy. if you're not eating well, if your health is not good, that cost the economy billions.— health is not good, that cost the economy billions. absolutely, and we have record — economy billions. absolutely, and we have record nhs _ economy billions. absolutely, and we have record nhs waiting _ economy billions. absolutely, and we have record nhs waiting list. - economy billions. absolutely, and we have record nhs waiting list. i - have record nhs waiting list. i think 7.22 on waiting list. people who could be in work are not because they have pain in their knee or whatever else —— 7.22 million. intersecting crises. if you drive down people's pay as well, that is having a massive knock on effect there as well.— having a massive knock on effect there as well. . . ,, , ., there as well. 0k, andrew, thank you for that. there as well. 0k, andrew, thank you for that- we — there as well. 0k, andrew, thank you for that. we are _ there as well. 0k, andrew, thank you for that. we are going _ there as well. 0k, andrew, thank you for that. we are going to _ there as well. 0k, andrew, thank you for that. we are going to take - there as well. 0k, andrew, thank you for that. we are going to take a - for that. we are going to take a look at another store that crosses over and that as migrants. president biden saying they are going to set “p biden saying they are going to set up legal safe routes for migrants heading to the mexican border. and can we trust twitter? i!

heading to the mexican border. and can we trust twitter? 1! accounts since they got it of the blue tick impersonating the los angeles police force. we'll talk about that. hello there. we've seen a lot of cloud again today, with rain developing more widely. there will be some changes in the next few days. tomorrow, a drier day than today and it's warming up a bitjust in time for the bank holiday weekend, although there will be some sharp showers around as well. earlier on today, it was particularly wet in cornwall, an inch of rain falling in places. since then, that heavier rain has pushed through the midlands towards the south—east of england. it's heading up towards east anglia and lincolnshire as well. there'll be a lot of cloud around overnight, but the worst of the rain tending to move away towards the end of the night. it will be a mild start to friday and quite a bit milder than of late actually in scotland. there'll still be some rain left from overnight first thing, especially across northern england. the worst that moves away out into the north sea.

we've got some damp weather heading down with that cloud in scotland. the rest of the uk probably brightening up a bit. some sunshine coming through that could lead to one or two showers, particularly in northern ireland. a few heavy ones here in the afternoon. but temperatures are getting up to 16 degrees here and could make 18 or 19 in the southeast as it brightens up. so, a warmer day, quite widely, compared with today. now, temperatures did get close to 40 degrees in southern parts of spain. we're not tapping into that hot weather. instead, our air is coming more from the azores. it does mean temperatures are going to be higher, but there's still some cold air in place across northern scotland and temperatures will be depressed in scotland and northern england underneath that cloud. england, wales and northern ireland seeing some sunshine, but also a few more showers that could be heavy and thundery. but those temperatures are continuing to rise a bit. could make 20 in the south east of england, but still only around

eight in northern scotland. into sunday, and quite a bit of cloud to come, maybe more showers breaking out, again, some of them heavy with the risk of thunder. wetter weather slides across northern ireland into western scotland. so temperatures probably won't be quite so high, but still better than we've seen over the past few days. by the time we get to bank holiday monday, this area of high pressure is trying to build in from the atlantic. a little belatedly maybe, but there should be fewer showers around on monday. most of those highlighted there across northern scotland, east anglia and the southeast, though one or two could develop elsewhere. but there will be some sunshine around. it's turning drier from the west. the winds will be quite light and temperatures reaching a pleasant 16 or 17 celsius.

hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. the sudanese army and the rival rapid support forces have both agreed to extend the truce for another three days, as governments rush to get their citizens out of the country. the biden administration has announced plans to open centres to process immigration applications to the us in latin america. they are due to be set up in colombia and guatemala, where us consular officials would process requests to enter the us, and successful applications would be able to travel on the correct visas. the intention is to reduce the number of people trying to cross illegally into the us and ease

the pressure on the us southern border. it is pretty grim there at the moment _ we are joined by will grant, our mexico and central america correspondent. will, good to see you. so brick—and—mortar processing centres along the route, we've heard a lot about legal channels for migrants to get into the uk. is this perhaps an example for the rest to look at? potentially, i think what's interesting is we have to set it in the context of two things. one of course is the us election, and indeed there are election cycles taking place around central america and latin america too these next 12 months, but also the fact that next months, but also the fact that next month in may, we will see the end of something called title 42, the public health provision which was re—invoked by the trump administration during the covid—19 pandemic and gave special powers to

immigration officials to be able to simply deport people immediately without recourse to the legal system. so with that coming to an end next month, i think this is the biden administration's two pronged approach to deal with those flows at the border. one, telling people that you can apply these weights from your home nations, and there may be more to come in ecuador and costa rica too, and two is clamping down on using law enforcement at the border, and anyone who tries to cross will be picked up and deported. cross will be picked up and deported-— cross will be picked up and deorted. , ., , . , deported. they would disqualify mi . rants deported. they would disqualify migrants from _ deported. they would disqualify migrants from entering - deported. they would disqualify migrants from entering a - deported. they would disqualify migrants from entering a silo i deported. they would disqualify migrants from entering a silo if| migrants from entering a silo if they enter illegally after failing to seek humanitarian protection and a third country— that is exactly with the uk government is saying here —— entering asylum. i with the uk government is saying here -- entering asylum.- here -- entering asylum. i can imaaine here -- entering asylum. i can imagine the — here -- entering asylum. i can imagine the biden _ here -- entering asylum. i can. imagine the biden menstruation here —— entering asylum. i can imagine the biden menstruation will build that end, we need to hear more details on that later this week from

the officials involved, but it wouldn't be in surprised if they include that provision. when i was include that provision. when i was in cuba, they said you could come but only if you go through the correct channels, and we will make those channels a shade easier than they have been, or significantly easier in some cases. but if you don't, we will be ejecting you and you won't be able to come into the country for at least five years. now those correct channels, there is something that exists in cuba which is family reunification, so the cubans who make it to the us can apply to have their family rooms joined them, that is something we might see apply to other nations in latin america too. if might see apply to other nations in latin america too.— latin america too. if the american government were _ latin america too. if the american government were to _ latin america too. if the american government were to deny - government were to deny asylum—seekers entering the country because they turned up at the border, the mexican border, and not applied at one of these brick—and—mortar processing centres, they would be in breach of international law? we need to be careful about mixing up

we need to be careful about mixing up asyium — we need to be careful about mixing up asylum and migration here. a lot of what _ up asylum and migration here. a lot of what the — up asylum and migration here. a lot of what the us is dealing with is economic— of what the us is dealing with is economic migration, is people not fieeing _ economic migration, is people not fleeing particular conflicts where obviously of people showing up on smatt— obviously of people showing up on small boats in the channel from afghanistan and syria, and syria, and iran— afghanistan and syria, and syria, and iran and other places where they face persecution and war at the moment — face persecution and war at the moment. it's important to draw that distinction, — moment. it's important to draw that distinction, but yes... but moment. it's important to draw that distinction, but yes. . .— distinction, but yes... but don't many economic— distinction, but yes... but don't many economic migrants - distinction, but yes... but don't many economic migrants claim | distinction, but yes... but don't - many economic migrants claim asylum? they are distinct categories, there may be _ they are distinct categories, there may be people who are judged to be economic— may be people who are judged to be economic migrants who are trying to claim asylum, that is of course possible — claim asylum, that is of course possible. but asylum—seekers are dealt _ possible. but asylum—seekers are dealt with— possible. but asylum—seekers are dealt with under the refugee convention of 1951, which is our convention of1951, which is our duty— convention of 1951, which is our duty to — convention of 1951, which is our duty to take people who are fleeing war and _ duty to take people who are fleeing war and persecution which we've signed _ war and persecution which we've signed up — war and persecution which we've signed up to. unfortunately the current— signed up to. unfortunately the current government wants to stop that entirely without putting in place — that entirely without putting in place hardly any routes for safe and le-al place hardly any routes for safe and legal routes for people seeking asytum — legal routes for people seeking asylum. for refugees, there have been _ asylum. for refugees, there have

been limited routes for people from syria. _ been limited routes for people from syria, that's been pretty much gone, the afghanistan route isn't working as we've _ the afghanistan route isn't working as we've been hearing from debates in the _ as we've been hearing from debates in the commons and the home affairs select committee. then we've got the ukraine _ select committee. then we've got the ukraine scheme which has worked realty— ukraine scheme which has worked really well, i think it's fair to say — really well, i think it's fair to say but— really well, i think it's fair to say. but there a global refugee crisis. — say. but there a global refugee crisis. and _ say. but there a global refugee crisis, and we have to recognise that britain— crisis, and we have to recognise that britain is playing its role in causing — that britain is playing its role in causing a — that britain is playing its role in causing a lot of these conflicts, both arming dictatorships are the world _ both arming dictatorships are the world as — both arming dictatorships are the world as well as our contribution to climate _ world as well as our contribution to climate change, as well as other big industrial— climate change, as well as other big industrial powers like the us and china, _ industrial powers like the us and china, and — industrial powers like the us and china, and so on. but we need to have _ china, and so on. but we need to have a _ china, and so on. but we need to have a responsibility here, if you took at _ have a responsibility here, if you took at the — have a responsibility here, if you look at the countries taking titeraity _ look at the countries taking literally millions of asylum—seekers, they are not wealthy countries _ asylum—seekers, they are not wealthy countries and they've got millions of people — countries and they've got millions of people within their border. so the few— of people within their border. so the few that do make it to the uk, it's a _ the few that do make it to the uk, it's a realty— the few that do make it to the uk, it's a really small amount compared to the _ it's a really small amount compared to the global crisis we are seeing. doug, _ to the global crisis we are seeing. doug, this— to the global crisis we are seeing. doug, this is the point andrew makes a distinction which exception to the right and proper, and it's important

we make that a sanction between asylum—seekers and economic migrants. but the problem is that the sympathy and generosity, and charity that many people in america and the uk would always extend to people in trouble who have come from war zones or areas experiencing violence and hardship — that has been mixed up with the economic migration, which is certainly the case at the southern border. does there need to be a change in international law that recognises that, and do we need to find a solution to the economic mikrut problem? solution to the economic mikrut roblem? ~ , ., problem? i think first we need to find a solution _ problem? i think first we need to find a solution to _ problem? i think first we need to find a solution to the _ problem? i think first we need to find a solution to the economic i find a solution to the economic mikrut— find a solution to the economic mikrut problem, _ find a solution to the economic mikrut problem, and _ find a solution to the economic mikrut problem, and why- find a solution to the economic i mikrut problem, and why they're teaving _ mikrut problem, and why they're leaving their _ mikrut problem, and why they're leaving their countries, - mikrut problem, and why they're leaving their countries, what - mikrut problem, and why they're leaving their countries, what we | mikrut problem, and why they're i leaving their countries, what we can do to— leaving their countries, what we can do to enrich— leaving their countries, what we can do to enrich those _ leaving their countries, what we can do to enrich those countries - leaving their countries, what we can do to enrich those countries —— - do to enrich those countries —— mikrut— do to enrich those countries —— mikrut problem. _ do to enrich those countries —— mikrut problem. what - do to enrich those countries —— . mikrut problem. what americans do to enrich those countries —— - mikrut problem. what americans see on tv— mikrut problem. what americans see on tv every— mikrut problem. what americans see on tv every day— mikrut problem. what americans see on tv every day is _ mikrut problem. what americans see on tv every day is waves _ mikrut problem. what americans see on tv every day is waves of— mikrut problem. what americans see on tv every day is waves of people i on tv every day is waves of people crossing _ on tv every day is waves of people crossing the — on tv every day is waves of people crossing the border— on tv every day is waves of people crossing the border in _ on tv every day is waves of people crossing the border in the - on tv every day is waves of people | crossing the border in the democrat iitegatiy, _ crossing the border in the democrat illegally, crossing _ crossing the border in the democrat illegally, crossing from _ crossing the border in the democrat illegally, crossing from mexico, - illegally, crossing from mexico, most _ illegally, crossing from mexico, most of— illegally, crossing from mexico, most of them _ illegally, crossing from mexico, most of them might _ illegally, crossing from mexico, most of them might not- illegally, crossing from mexico, most of them might not be - illegally, crossing from mexico, - most of them might not be mexican, but it— most of them might not be mexican, but it sends — most of them might not be mexican, but it sends a — most of them might not be mexican, but it sends a chilling _ most of them might not be mexican, but it sends a chilling message - most of them might not be mexican, but it sends a chilling message to. but it sends a chilling message to american — but it sends a chilling message to american voters _ but it sends a chilling message to american voters that _ but it sends a chilling message to american voters that our- american voters that our

administration _ american voters that our administration isn't - american voters that our| administration isn't doing american voters that our- administration isn't doing enough american voters that our— administration isn't doing enough — that was— administration isn't doing enough — that was true — administration isn't doing enough — that was true under— administration isn't doing enough — that was true under trump - administration isn't doing enough — that was true under trump and - administration isn't doing enough — - that was true under trump and 0bama, we can— that was true under trump and 0bama, we can go— that was true under trump and 0bama, we can go beyond — that was true under trump and 0bama, we can go beyond that _ that was true under trump and 0bama, we can go beyond that as _ that was true under trump and 0bama, we can go beyond that as well- that was true under trump and 0bama, we can go beyond that as well — - that was true under trump and 0bama, we can go beyond that as well — and . we can go beyond that as well — and it scares _ we can go beyond that as well — and it scares a tot — we can go beyond that as well — and it scares a lot of— we can go beyond that as well — and it scares a lot of americans - we can go beyond that as well — and it scares a lot of americans to see . it scares a lot of americans to see these _ it scares a lot of americans to see these waves — it scares a lot of americans to see these waves of _ it scares a lot of americans to see these waves of people. _ it scares a lot of americans to see these waves of people. and - it scares a lot of americans to see these waves of people. and i- it scares a lot of americans to see these waves of people. and i cani these waves of people. and i can tell you _ these waves of people. and i can tell you having _ these waves of people. and i can tell you having been— these waves of people. and i can tell you having been to _ these waves of people. and i can| tell you having been to calais and seeing _ tell you having been to calais and seeing similar— tell you having been to calais and seeing similar situations - tell you having been to calais and seeing similar situations there . tell you having been to calais and seeing similar situations there of| seeing similar situations there of people _ seeing similar situations there of peopte using _ seeing similar situations there of peopte using that— seeing similar situations there of people using that as _ seeing similar situations there of people using that as a _ seeing similar situations there of people using that as a ready- seeing similar situations there of. people using that as a ready camp seeing similar situations there of- people using that as a ready camp to id people using that as a ready camp to go to— people using that as a ready camp to go to the _ people using that as a ready camp to go to the uk, — people using that as a ready camp to go to the uk, i— people using that as a ready camp to go to the uk, i understand _ people using that as a ready camp to go to the uk, i understand why- go to the uk, i understand why voters — go to the uk, i understand why voters in — go to the uk, i understand why voters in the _ go to the uk, i understand why voters in the united _ go to the uk, i understand why voters in the united states, - voters in the united states, especially— voters in the united states, especially in _ voters in the united states, especially in our— voters in the united states, especially in our southern l voters in the united states, - especially in our southern states, our border— especially in our southern states, our border states— especially in our southern states, our border states feel— especially in our southern states, our border states feel that - especially in our southern states, our border states feel that way. i our border states feel that way. it's our border states feel that way. it's a _ our border states feel that way. it's a political— our border states feel that way. it's a political problem - our border states feel that way. it's a political problem as - our border states feel that way. it's a political problem as well. our border states feel that way. i it's a political problem as well as an economic— it's a political problem as well as an economic problem. _ it's a political problem as well as an economic problem. you- it's a political problem as well as an economic problem.— an economic problem. you think this will work, take _ an economic problem. you think this will work, take some _ an economic problem. you think this will work, take some of _ an economic problem. you think this will work, take some of the - an economic problem. you think thisj will work, take some of the pressure off the border? i will work, take some of the pressure off the border?— off the border? i don't know that it'll take a _ off the border? i don't know that it'll take a great _ off the border? i don't know that it'll take a great deal— off the border? i don't know that it'll take a great deal of- off the border? i don't know that it'll take a great deal of pressure off the _ it'll take a great deal of pressure off the border, _ it'll take a great deal of pressure off the border, but _ it'll take a great deal of pressure off the border, but it _ it'll take a great deal of pressure off the border, but it certainly. off the border, but it certainly won't — off the border, but it certainly won't take _ off the border, but it certainly won't take the _ off the border, but it certainly won't take the political- off the border, but it certainly. won't take the political pressure off the _ won't take the political pressure off the border— won't take the political pressure off the border because - won't take the political pressure off the border because it - won't take the political pressure| off the border because it doesn't change _ off the border because it doesn't change those _ off the border because it doesn't change those images _ off the border because it doesn't change those images that - off the border because it doesn't change those images that we - off the border because it doesn't i change those images that we see, off the border because it doesn't - change those images that we see, it doesn't _ change those images that we see, it doesn't change _ change those images that we see, it doesn't change the _ change those images that we see, it doesn't change the stories _ change those images that we see, it doesn't change the stories of- doesn't change the stories of families— doesn't change the stories of families being _ doesn't change the stories of families being separated - doesn't change the stories of. families being separated which doesn't change the stories of- families being separated which is a whole _ families being separated which is a whole other— families being separated which is a whole other aspect _ families being separated which is a whole other aspect of _ families being separated which is a whole other aspect of this. - families being separated which is a whole other aspect of this. then i families being separated which is al whole other aspect of this. then we -et whole other aspect of this. then we get to— whole other aspect of this. then we get to the _ whole other aspect of this. then we get to the fact — whole other aspect of this. then we get to the fact that _ whole other aspect of this. then we get to the fact that we _ whole other aspect of this. then we get to the fact that we will- whole other aspect of this. then we get to the fact that we will also - get to the fact that we will also be entering _ get to the fact that we will also be entering new— get to the fact that we will also be entering new laws _ get to the fact that we will also be entering new laws because - get to the fact that we will also be entering new laws because some. get to the fact that we will also be. entering new laws because some of the covid _ entering new laws because some of the covid regulations— entering new laws because some of the covid regulations that - entering new laws because some of the covid regulations that went - entering new laws because some ofj the covid regulations that went into place _ the covid regulations that went into place specifically— the covid regulations that went into place specifically on _ the covid regulations that went into place specifically on migration - the covid regulations that went into place specifically on migration will i place specifically on migration will be expiring — place specifically on migration will be expiring in— place specifically on migration will be expiring in congress, _ place specifically on migration will be expiring in congress, both- place specifically on migration will be expiring in congress, both thei be expiring in congress, both the house _ be expiring in congress, both the house and — be expiring in congress, both the house and the _ be expiring in congress, both the house and the senate _ be expiring in congress, both the house and the senate will - be expiring in congress, both the

house and the senate will need i be expiring in congress, both thel house and the senate will need to address— house and the senate will need to address that, _ house and the senate will need to address that, as _ house and the senate will need to address that, as well. _ house and the senate will need to address that, as well.— address that, as well. let's say aoodb e address that, as well. let's say goodbye to _ address that, as well. let's say goodbye to will _ address that, as well. let's say goodbye to will grant, - address that, as well. let's say goodbye to will grant, thanks i address that, as well. let's say i goodbye to will grant, thanks for bringing us that story, an interesting one, certainly a lot of cross here in the uk. you might remember that last week, twitter got rid of the blue tick. the blue tick was originally issued by the company for free to ensure accounts were genuine a way of verifying that accounts, including those belonging to public agencies, were who they said they were. but now that's gone, and the impact of that is already being felt on the platform. in just 24 hours after the tick was removed, at least 11 new accounts began impersonating the los angeles police department, and more than 20 accounts falsely claimed to be federal government agencies. live now to grame brookie. he's senior director of the atlantic council's digital forensic research lab. you've done some work on this, is it a significant problem? people are now paying for blue ticks were not with who they say they are. thanks for havin: with who they say they are. thanks for having me. _ with who they say they are. thanks

for having me, of _ with who they say they are. thanks for having me, of course _ with who they say they are. thanks for having me, of course it's - with who they say they are. thanks for having me, of course it's a - for having me, of course it's a significant problem. while verification matters is it's a move towards... in the previous iteration of twitter, public interest accounts, whether that was large organisations or public officials, could apply for verification. now anyone who pays can be verified. the application is any organisation that has a little bit of money is credible, including accounts that are impersonating, as you just mentioned, accounts that pop up during crisis events. and it's not totally clear that in the roll—out of this policy, which was announced at the beginning of the year, had two failed roll—outs throughout the year up until now, and now has an incomplete roll—out to say the least that they are prepared to deal with the ramifications of impersonation, or the implications of what labelling means for discovery on

platforms, orfor things labelling means for discovery on platforms, or for things like crisis events. ., platforms, or for things like crisis events. . , ., , , events. the real problem with this is a lot of people _ events. the real problem with this is a lot of people use _ events. the real problem with this is a lot of people use twitter - events. the real problem with this is a lot of people use twitter for i is a lot of people use twitter for their news, and there was one instance that you've uncovered where 1.7 million people are following a thread that they think is legit because it's got a blue mark on it, telling them that the leader of the rapid to support dash one in sudan had been killed, when in fact he was still alive —— rapid support forces in sudan had been killed. so they have the impact on the ground. the have the impact on the ground. tie: coordination have the impact on the ground. tte: coordination of have the impact on the ground. t“t9: coordination of this have the impact on the ground. tt9 coordination of this policy have the impact on the ground. t“t9 coordination of this policy hasn't adjusted for the speed at which information travels, so in a crisis event like you just mentioned in sudan where an account that is impersonating a news entity or a credible source of information tweets verifiably false information and it takes a little while to

verify that, then the impact between when that tweet goes out and when the information is able to be verified can create quite a lot of damage in the real world, including in conflict zones like you've just mentioned. in conflict zones like you've “ust mentionedfi in conflict zones like you've “ust mentioned. , :, , , , :, in conflict zones like you've “ust mentioned. , , , :, , mentioned. the problem seems to be to me that eton _ mentioned. the problem seems to be to me that elon musk's _ mentioned. the problem seems to be to me that elon musk's attitude, - mentioned. the problem seems to be to me that elon musk's attitude, i - to me that elon musk's attitude, i would go if people pay for verification, that must be legit." that's a pretty inane argument. t that's a pretty inane argument. i would agree with you, there's a that's a pretty inane argument. t would agree with you, there's a case for wider scale verification of users on platforms to make sure that users on platforms to make sure that users are who they say they are at a wider scale. users are who they say they are at a widerscale. it's users are who they say they are at a wider scale. it's not clear that payment is the best form or version of doing that. there is any number of doing that. there is any number of online platforms that have verification models where you have to prove that you are, such as taking a selfie to verify that you are the actual person you say you are. now all of those types of policies have ramifications — for

instance, if you're a dissident in an authoritarian country, you may not want to verify your identity, your privacy or anonymity protects you. even if you are spreading information that is relevant or useful, so there are pitfalls of verification policies on any given platform, it's not clear that payment — well, it's fairly clear at this point that payment is not the best version of verifying users, but it is certainly a business model that musk is trying out. now i'm not sure they're having much success with that business model thus far. doug, there was a lot of support on the right i think for what elon musk was doing at twitter, the way he was changing the algorithm, scaling back some of those protections that the company had put in place. do you think there is still reassurance about what he's doing, or is there a concern mounting amongst the right? they are reassured and there is

concern — they are reassured and there is concern growing _ they are reassured and there is concern growing on _ they are reassured and there is concern growing on the - they are reassured and there is concern growing on the right. i they are reassured and there is i concern growing on the right. elon musk— concern growing on the right. elon musk was— concern growing on the right. elon musk was on— concern growing on the right. elon musk was on capitol _ concern growing on the right. elon musk was on capitol hill— concern growing on the right. eloni musk was on capitol hill yesterday, met with _ musk was on capitol hill yesterday, met with senator— musk was on capitol hill yesterday, met with senator chuck _ musk was on capitol hill yesterday, met with senator chuck schumer i met with senator chuck schumer amongst — met with senator chuck schumer amongst others, _ met with senator chuck schumer amongst others, but _ met with senator chuck schumer amongst others, but what - met with senator chuck schumer amongst others, but what we've| met with senator chuck schumer i amongst others, but what we've seen is anybody— amongst others, but what we've seen is anybody with — amongst others, but what we've seen is anybody with a _ amongst others, but what we've seen is anybody with a little _ amongst others, but what we've seen is anybody with a little bit _ amongst others, but what we've seen is anybody with a little bit of- is anybody with a little bit of money — is anybody with a little bit of money - _ is anybody with a little bit of money — that's _ is anybody with a little bit of money — that's all _ is anybody with a little bit of money — that's all you - is anybody with a little bit of money — that's all you need| is anybody with a little bit of. money — that's all you need to become — money — that's all you need to become verified, _ money — that's all you need to become verified, you - money — that's all you need to become verified, you don't i money — that's all you need to i become verified, you don't need a lot become verified, you don't need a tot of— become verified, you don't need a tot of it. _ become verified, you don't need a tot of it. so — become verified, you don't need a tot of it. so we _ become verified, you don't need a lot of it, so we are _ become verified, you don't need a lot of it, so we are seeing - become verified, you don't need a lot of it, so we are seeing this i lot of it, so we are seeing this happen— lot of it, so we are seeing this happen time _ lot of it, so we are seeing this happen time and _ lot of it, so we are seeing this happen time and time - lot of it, so we are seeing this happen time and time again, i lot of it, so we are seeing this - happen time and time again, and also with twitter _ happen time and time again, and also with twitter deciding _ happen time and time again, and also with twitter deciding who _ happen time and time again, and also with twitter deciding who will - happen time and time again, and also with twitter deciding who will be i with twitter deciding who will be verified — with twitter deciding who will be verified and _ with twitter deciding who will be verified and not, _ with twitter deciding who will be verified and not, there _ with twitter deciding who will be verified and not, there are - with twitter deciding who will be verified and not, there are lots. with twitter deciding who will be i verified and not, there are lots of stories— verified and not, there are lots of stories that — verified and not, there are lots of stories that aren't _ verified and not, there are lots of stories that aren't terribly- verified and not, there are lots ofi stories that aren't terribly serious about_ stories that aren't terribly serious about basketball— stories that aren't terribly serious about basketball players - stories that aren't terribly serious about basketball players and - about basketball players and celebrities _ about basketball players and celebrities who _ about basketball players and celebrities who have - about basketball players and celebrities who have been i about basketball players and - celebrities who have been verified despite _ celebrities who have been verified despite not — celebrities who have been verified despite not paying _ celebrities who have been verified despite not paying for— celebrities who have been verified despite not paying for it _ celebrities who have been verified despite not paying for it and - celebrities who have been verified despite not paying for it and them saying. _ despite not paying for it and them saying. 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that. . ., �*, ,., that. and that's the thing, can you trust the news _ that. and that's the thing, can you trust the news you're _ that. and that's the thing, can you trust the news you're reading - that. and that's the thing, can you trust the news you're reading on i trust the news you're reading on twitter? if you keep reading this information, very soon you turn away from it. ~ ,,., , information, very soon you turn away from it. ~ , , ., ~ from it. absolutely, and i think this is part _ from it. absolutely, and i think this is part of _ from it. absolutely, and i think this is part of the _ from it. absolutely, and i think this is part of the dutch - from it. absolutely, and i think. this is part of the dutch problem from it. absolutely, and i think- this is part of the dutch problem of the takeover, he overpaid and is trying _ the takeover, he overpaid and is trying to— the takeover, he overpaid and is trying to recoup his investment, and that's— trying to recoup his investment, and that's the _ trying to recoup his investment, and that's the problem. he's tried to monetise — that's the problem. he's tried to monetise twitter to a much greater extent _ monetise twitter to a much greater extent than his previous owners, and he's kind _ extent than his previous owners, and he's kind of— extent than his previous owners, and he's kind of deregulated it. the idea that — he's kind of deregulated it. the idea that someone can set up — theoretically, i won't do this — set ”p theoretically, iwon't do this — set up an— theoretically, i won't do this — set up an account on bbc news, pay my £8 a month, type in whatever i like and hope _ a month, type in whatever i like and hope that— a month, type in whatever i like and hope that people will see a blue tick and — hope that people will see a blue tick and verify it. there's all kinds — tick and verify it. there's all kinds of— tick and verify it. there's all kinds of ramifications about public health— kinds of ramifications about public health and the stock markets, bank runs: _ health and the stock markets, bank runs. att— health and the stock markets, bank runs, all kinds of misinformation you can — runs, all kinds of misinformation you can put _ runs, all kinds of misinformation you can put there that would be commercially damaging to people's health. _ commercially damaging to people's health, just quite traumatising for people. _ health, just quite traumatising for people. as — health, just quite traumatising for people, as well. by health, just quite traumatising for peeple. as well-— people, as well. by and tell you what, people, as well. by and tell you what. that's _ people, as well. by and tell you what, that's a _ people, as well. by and tell you what, that's a really _ people, as well. by and tell you what, that's a really interesting| what, that's a really interesting point, andrew. our corporate

reputation is on the line here, if somebody did that and claimed to be a company that was putting out misinformation, how long before twitter gets sued?— misinformation, how long before twitter gets sued? that's a great cuestion, twitter gets sued? that's a great question. i _ twitter gets sued? that's a great question, i think _ twitter gets sued? that's a great question, i think we're _ twitter gets sued? that's a great question, i think we're about - twitter gets sued? that's a great question, i think we're about to i question, i think we're about to find out very quickly. but in previous iterations of twitter not under elon musk's leadership, twitter was good about taking down accounts impersonating large organisations, there were lots of incidences where the dfr lab found accounts impersonating the bbc itself in countries like africa, and the response time used to be very quick. the response time used to be very auick. ., ., , ., . , ., quick. not any more, which is a problem- i'm — quick. not any more, which is a problem. i'm sure _ quick. not any more, which is a problem. i'm sure we _ quick. not any more, which is a problem. i'm sure we will- quick. not any more, which is a problem. i'm sure we will come quick. not any more, which is a - problem. i'm sure we will come back to this, thanks for coming on the programme, really interesting piece of research, more about that on the website. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. this is a pack of military—grade bandages designed to quickly stop bleeding.

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it's quite ironic that a segment called the panel always shrinks, my timekeeping is awful, i'll start putting this on the clock. let's do two minutes each, doug, an important story yesterday, kevin mccarthy got through a debt agreement with his side, and of course he can only afford to lose five votes on his side, so he got that through, but they'll hold him to it, and clearly they'll hold him to it, and clearly the white house is not ready to negotiate, so where does that leave us? ~ ., negotiate, so where does that leave us? . ., ., , , �* ., negotiate, so where does that leave us? ., ., ,, �* ., ., us? what it means is we've had a first step from — us? what it means is we've had a first step from the _ us? what it means is we've had a first step from the house - us? what it means is we've had a first step from the house of - first step from the house of representatives. and this is significant — forget the policy aspect— significant — forget the policy aspect of it for a moment, it's significant _ aspect of it for a moment, it's significant that mccarthy was able to get— significant that mccarthy was able to get this through on a first vote. when _ to get this through on a first vote. when he _ to get this through on a first vote. when he ultimately won in his 15th vote in— when he ultimately won in his 15th vote in the — when he ultimately won in his 15th vote in the speakership votes back injanuary. — vote in the speakership votes back injanuary, there was a lot of speculation that he wouldn't be able to get— speculation that he wouldn't be able to get anything done or

accomplished, oranything to get anything done or accomplished, or anything through such an _ accomplished, or anything through such an unruly caucus, and he proved them _ such an unruly caucus, and he proved them wrong — such an unruly caucus, and he proved them wrong. now the hard part comes next. and _ them wrong. now the hard part comes next, and that's what we don't know what will _ next, and that's what we don't know what will happen between the house, the senate and the administration, but politically a big win for mccarthy on something a lot of people — mccarthy on something a lot of people thought he couldn't do. to six people thought he couldn't do. six plane to people thought he couldn't do. trr six plane to our viewers, the debt ceiling has to be raised so america can keep paying its bills —— just explained our viewers. it's running on fumes at the moment — if you can't get this through the when it democrats senate, which he won't, and the president won't sign it, and he's not ready to negotiate, where is the common ground? i he's not ready to negotiate, where is the common ground?— he's not ready to negotiate, where is the common ground? i wish i could uive ou a is the common ground? i wish i could give you a better _ is the common ground? i wish i could give you a better answer _ is the common ground? i wish i could give you a better answer than - give you a better answer than shrugging my shoulders, but that's where _ shrugging my shoulders, but that's where washington is. there's a thought— where washington is. there's a thought that we won't breach the debt ceiling because we never have, but that— debt ceiling because we never have, but that kind of thinking here is dangerous. trump and the past five years— dangerous. trump and the past five years of— dangerous. trump and the past five years of politics have shown us that things _ years of politics have shown us that things that — years of politics have shown us that things that are unthinkable are quite _ things that are unthinkable are quite possible.— things that are unthinkable are cuite ossible. �* ., ,, quite possible. andrew, we talked toniuht quite possible. andrew, we talked tonight about _ quite possible. andrew, we talked tonight about bp _ quite possible. andrew, we talked tonight about bp scaling _ quite possible. andrew, we talked tonight about bp scaling back - quite possible. andrew, we talked tonight about bp scaling back its l tonight about bp scaling back its net zero plans, you picked a story

in the guardian about uk investment in the guardian about uk investment in clean energy and the transition falling io% behind the global trend. wejust aren't falling io% behind the global trend. we just aren't performing. falling 1096 behind the global trend. we just aren't performing.- falling 1096 behind the global trend. we just aren't performing. wejust aren't performing. know, and this is really — wejust aren't performing. know, and this is really worrying _ wejust aren't performing. know, and this is really worrying at _ wejust aren't performing. know, and this is really worrying at a _ wejust aren't performing. know, and this is really worrying at a time - this is really worrying at a time where climate change is the biggest issue facing us as a species. and if that doesn't motivate people, that our energy security should. we've just seen what happens to global energy prices when russia invades ukraine, which on the scale of things is world war levels, it's big and disruptive, so being able to invest in our own renewable and sustainable energy is a really vital part of our energy security plan as a country, but it's also really important for climate investment. and at the moment, britain is being left behind in the wake of many other countries in europe. offshore wind is doing _ other countries in europe. offshore wind is doing pretty _ other countries in europe. offshore wind is doing pretty good, - other countries in europe. offshore wind is doing pretty good, which i other countries in europe. offshore l wind is doing pretty good, which has grown substantially, but onshore wind farms have been almost impossible to build in england, which is part of the problem. it's

the change in regulation that came in 2015 under david cameron where they basicallyjust gave local authorities the power to block very easily, any objections can block the establishment of a new onshore wind farm, but they're much cheaper to build onshore than offshore. so it's a real problem and we've gone backwards on that. we've lost a lot of our in country manufacturing as well on wind farms, so we've reported a lot of this stuff, you look at the new nuclear being built, its by the french nationalised in it's by the french nationalised in chinese state, its not being built by british companies. so we use the term green industrial revolution, i think the current labour opposition is using the term green prosperity plan, they're talking about £28 billion of investment in the docket every year if they win the next election, and we will need something like that what we've seen with the

biden plane in the us.— biden plane in the us. they're all aood biden plane in the us. they're all good titles _ biden plane in the us. they're all good titles but _ biden plane in the us. they're all good titles but they _ biden plane in the us. they're all good titles but they need - biden plane in the us. they're all good titles but they need heavy l good titles but they need heavy lifting, and that's true on both sides of the atlantic. thank you both forjoining us this evening, see you sometime tomorrow, good night. hello from the bbc sport centre, i'm qasa alom. chelsea have been knocked out in the semifinals of the women's champions league by barcelona. last year's beaten finalists took a narrow 1—0 lead into the second leg at the camp nou and did enough to qualify at the expense of the british side. jo currie watched the match unfold. a raucous nou camp, a fitting arena for the battle between two european giants. victory for chelsea would arguably be their greatest ever result. but barcelona weren't going to give up theirfirst leg lead easily. an early scare from caroline graham hansen before the referee blew for a handball. other dangerous chances followed, the londoners getting to the break

without conceding, but onlyjust. after the restart, life got tougher, hansen with a cool finish which couldn't be stopped on the line. was chelsea's improbable task now impossible? they definitely needed grit and a goal. sam kerr provided the former, and a moment that gave her side hope. but further opportunities were few and far between, and when they did come, they were wasted. barcelona through to their third final infouryears, english hopes now rest on arsenal, who face wolfsburg on monday. jo currie, bbc news. man united continued to pile on the misery for spurs, beating the north london club 2—1 at the tottenham stadium in caretaker manager ryan mason's first match in charge. marcus rashford brushed past eric dier to score his 29th goal of the season just before half—time. jadon sancho had put the reds ahead in the sixth minute.

pedro porro got one back for the home side, but it wasn't enough as spurs slump to their third defeat in a row. they've just scored a second goal which is proving vitalfor them. song has done it to give the fans something to cheer about. at goodison park, newcastle ran riot again to boost their hopes of champions league football next year, this scorcher from callum wilson the pick of the bunch. joelinton, isak and schaer also on target as they beat everton 5—1. the toffees are in big, big trouble with only five games of the season to go. bournemouth gave their hopes of survival a huge boost with a win over bottom side southampton. marcus tavernier got the crucial goal five minutes after half—time. southampton had a che adams effort ruled out through var minutes from time. the result means bornemouth are seven points clear

of the relegation zone while southampton are six points adrift of safety. newcastle and manchester united remain third and fourth, but united have a game in hand. both clubs have cleared, daylight now between them and the chasing pack searching for champions league football. spurs are seventh. meanwhile southampton and everton's defeat route the two sides firmly of the foot of the table, southampton six points adrift while everton two points off 70, bournemouth up to 14th with that huge win with some much—needed breathing room above the relegation zone. si jiahui has a slender 5—3 lead against luca brecel in their world snooker championship semifinal. si had lead 14—1, but brecel fought back to 4—3 before losing the last frame of the session.

the belgian missed a crucial pink. their second session is on friday morning. meanwhile, mark selby and mark allen have begun their semifinal. these are live pictures from the crucible theatre. you can follow that on bbc four. it's currently 3—3. andy murray is out of the madrid masters in the first round after losing to qualifier andrea vavassori in straight sets 6—2, 7—6. the three—time grand slam champion has been struggling for form on the clay and was broken twice in the first set. he rallied in the second, but will be having sleepless nights about this missed volley at the net in the tie—breaker. vavassori plays daniil medvedev in the second round. finally, britain's ethan hayter sprinted to victory to claim the second stage of the tour de romandie in la chaux de fonds. the ineos grenadiers rider inherits

the yellowjersey from compatriot ethan vernon and now has a six—second lead over norway's tobias foss. it's his second win of the season after he won the opening stage of the tour of the basque country earlier this month. and that's all the sport for now. see you soon. this is a pack of military—grade bandages designed to quickly stop bleeding. the grim factor is you can bleed to death in underfive minutes. so this is for those first vital moments — help's on its way, but this can mean the difference between life and death in those first moments. a charity called a rapaid, run by this former soldier, is now putting putting them in black cabs. that'll apply 40le back of direct pressure, so straightaway that is stemming a serious bleed.

these are the packs that we'll be asking you to carry in the front of the cab. today, the charity's started giving them out to 400 taxis initially. there will come a time, - unfortunately as we all know, when something awful happens —| and if one of these packs is there, it really could save lives. and it's at no cost to anyone, you know, our members - are just carrying the packs, - there's no inconvenience to anyone. this is a real possible life—saving win—win situation for london, - it'sjust great news. hello there. we've seen a lot of cloud again today, with rain developing more widely. there will be some changes in the next few days. tomorrow, a drier day than today and it's warming up a bitjust in time for the bank holiday weekend, although there will be some sharp showers around as well. earlier on today, it was particularly wet in cornwall, an inch of rain falling in places. since then, that heavier rain has pushed through the midlands towards the southeast of england.

it's heading up towards east anglia and lincolnshire as well. there'll be a lot of cloud around overnight, but the worst of the rain tending to move away towards the end of the night. it will be a mild start to friday and quite a bit milder than of late actually in scotland. there'll still be some rain left from overnight first thing, especially across northern england. the worst that moves away out into the north sea. we've got some damp weather heading down with that cloud in scotland. the rest of the uk probably brightening up a bit. some sunshine coming through that could lead to 1—2 showers, particularly in northern ireland. a few heavy ones here in the afternoon. but temperatures are getting up to 16 celsius here and could make 18—19 in the southeast as it brightens up. so, a warmer day, quite widely, compared with today. now, temperatures did get close to a0 celsius in southern parts of spain. we're not tapping into that hot weather. instead, our air is coming more from the azores. it does mean temperatures are going to be higher, but there's still some cold air in place across northern scotland and temperatures will be depressed in scotland and northern england underneath that cloud. england, wales and northern ireland seeing some sunshine,

but also a few more showers that could be heavy and thundery. but those temperatures are continuing to rise a bit. could make 20 in the southeast of england, but still only around eight in northern scotland. into sunday, and quite a bit of cloud to come, maybe more showers breaking out, again, some of them heavy with the risk of thunder. wetter weather slides across northern ireland into western scotland. so temperatures probably won't be quite so high, but still better than we've seen over the past few days. by the time we get to bank holiday monday, this area of high pressure is trying to build in from the atlantic. a little belatedly maybe, but there should be fewer showers around on monday. most of those highlighted there across northern scotland, east anglia in the southeast though one or two could develop elsewhere. but there will be some sunshine around. it's turning drier from the west. the winds will be quite light and temperatures reaching a pleasant 16—17 celsius.

tonight at ten... hopes the fragile ceasefire in sudan may be extended. it is due to expire in an hour, as thousands try to escape. large crowds gather at the airfield outside khartoum, hoping to board raf flights designated for british nationals. for those making it out, enormous relief. terrifying. made us lie on the ground. there were so many children and everything. they shot two people. nearly 900 people have now been brought— nearly 900 people have now been brought out of sudan to cyprus. safety _ brought out of sudan to cyprus. safety for — brought out of sudan to cyprus. safety for them, anguish for those left behind. ., safety for them, anguish for those left behind-— left behind. there are reports the ceasefire could _ left behind. there are reports the ceasefire could be _

left behind. there are reports the ceasefire could be extended - left behind. there are reports the ceasefire could be extended to i left behind. there are reports the i ceasefire could be extended to allow