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live from washington. this is bbc news. south korean president yoon suk—yeol wraps up his visit to the us, we take a look at the landmark nuclear deal. we'll dive into reaction to yoon�*s trip from china and around the region. and we'll tackle the $2.5 billion netflix investment in south korea. we start here in washington, where president biden spent the week hosting the south korean president yoon suk—yeol for discussions that have global consequences. the two presidents met with the nuclear threat from north korea high on their agenda. south korea and the us laid out
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a new agreement called the washington declaration aimed at deterring an attack on seoul. the bbc�*s seoul correspondent — jean mackenzie — explained what this agreement involves. so this deal is the us stepping up so this deal is the us stepping up its commitment to use nuclear weapons to defend south korea from north korea. you know, the us is responsible for south korea's event and are always up implied it would use nuclear weapons if necessary but recently people here in seoul have questioned that commitment and they needed part of this deal is the us is going to send one of its armed with nuclear weapons to the peninsular. it will be stationed here continually but it will come periodically. they will form the joint nuclear planning group and this allows south korea to be more involved in understanding how and when
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the us would use its nuclear weapons. politicians here essentially have been kept in the dark with little understanding of what would actually trigger the us president to trigger the nuclear button on its behalf but in return for these us commitments soul is being made to promise that it is not going to promise that it is not going to develop its own nuclear weapons because that is something that people here have been calling for in increasing numbers, it is something that has worried people in washington and really, it is the reason that we are seeing these new measures being introduced. these new measures being introduced. as well as the nuclear weapons deal, south korean president yoon suk—yeol also delivered a historic address to us congress. he recevied a warm welcome by bipartisan lawmakers in the chamber. the speech also marked the 70th anniversary of the us—south korean alliance. our reporter carl nasman was watching. a historic speech to a packed bipartisan chamber. give them a
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new era of the alliance. it is the first speech by a south korean president congress in over a decade at a time of heightened tensions with its northern neighbour. a deeply criticised north korea but said he is still open to talks. my government _ he is still open to talks. m government will respond he is still open to talks. mg government will respond to publications. at the same time we will keep the door open for north korea's denuclearisation. a congressman said the us needs to take any security threat seriously. to take any security threat seriously-— to take any security threat seriousl . ~ ., _, seriously. we need to continue to have peace _ seriously. we need to continue to have peace through - seriously. we need to continue| to have peace through strength and the — to have peace through strength and the only way to do that is to have — and the only way to do that is to have a _ and the only way to do that is to have a strong alliance and, yes, — to have a strong alliance and, yes, you _ to have a strong alliance and, yes, you know, they continue to propagate — yes, you know, they continue to propagate but if we are going to fully— propagate but if we are going to fully deter there needs to be stronger economic ties and military— be stronger economic ties and military ties in the region.
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signs— military ties in the region. signs of— military ties in the region. signs of those historic ties are still_ signs of those historic ties are still visible in the us capitah _ are still visible in the us capital. he paid tribute to korean_ capital. he paid tribute to korean or there to entertain the us— korean or there to entertain the us for support over their partnership. south and the us for their— partnership. south and the us for their alliance in the aftermath of world war ii. in 1950, — aftermath of world war ii. in 1950, the two sides fought together, fending off attacks from — together, fending off attacks from the north.— from the north. tens of thousands _ from the north. tens of thousands of _ from the north. tens of| thousands of americans from the north. tens of- thousands of americans died in the korean war and many more koreans. in his speech he thanked the usa that he knows that no matter what, the us stands with career. he also touched on deepening cultural ties with the us. netflix, which produced squid games has announced a multi—billion dollar investment in south korean productions but the speech comes in the wake of intelligence leaks showing the us spying on its ally and questioning commitment to security. the us has rolled out the red carpet in an effort to reassure the koreans and president biden gave a stark
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warning to kim young lynn. its, warning to kim young lynn. a nuclear attack against the united _ nuclear attack against the united states _ nuclear attack against the united states its- nuclear attack against the united states its allies . nuclear attack against the united states its allies or| united states its allies or partisan _ united states its allies or partisan partners - united states its allies or partisan partners is - partisan partners is unacceptable - partisan partners is unacceptable and l partisan partners is . unacceptable and will partisan partners is - unacceptable and will result partisan partners is _ unacceptable and will result in the end — unacceptable and will result in the end of— unacceptable and will result in the end of whatever— unacceptable and will result in the end of whatever regime i the end of whatever regime would — the end of whatever regime would take _ the end of whatever regime would take such _ the end of whatever regime would take such an - the end of whatever regime would take such an action. i the end of whatever regime . would take such an action. he announced — would take such an action. announced a new deal would take such an action.- announced a new deal keeping south korea from developing its own nuclear arsenal. the us will also send a nuclear armed submarine to south korea. a move china quickly condemned as a potential threat to the region but the us is looking to shore up its allies in the region to counter growing chinese influence. share region to counter growing chinese influence. are message to both north — chinese influence. are message to both north korea _ chinese influence. are message to both north korea and - chinese influence. are message to both north korea and china l to both north korea and china is we want to maintain the status quo. the united states are not looking for a confrontation but what we are looking for is a reduction we see north korea. the reduction in aggressiveness in the drc and this find ways to work together. with me now is the bbc�*s carl nasman who was covering the visit and jean lee,
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she was previously the associated press's pyongyang bureau chief and co host what was your biggest takeaway? he also went to the white house? in the mag i did take part in some of the events this weekend i have to say, have to tell you that i'm not biased because i am a korean american and so this week was a celebration in so many different ways.- celebration in so many different ways. celebration in so many different wa s. ., ., , different ways. not only was it a celebration _ different ways. not only was it a celebration of _ different ways. not only was it a celebration of this _ a celebration of this relationship between south korea and the united states. there were also substantive things that came out of i would say it was a beautiful week. it is raining now but it was a beautiful weekend ever so stunning to see all the flags, and it was with the moment for south korea to shine. ls and it was with the moment for south korea to shine.— south korea to shine. is that our south korea to shine. is that your sense? _ south korea to shine. is that your sense? it _ south korea to shine. is that your sense? it was - south korea to shine. is that your sense? it was a - south korea to shine. is that your sense? it was a great i your sense? it was a great reminder— your sense? it was a great reminder of— your sense? it was a great reminder of this _ your sense? it was a great reminder of this alliance . your sense? it was a great - reminder of this alliance which is 70 _ reminder of this alliance which is 70 years old now of course. you _ is 70 years old now of course. you know. _ is 70 years old now of course. you know, everyone going rate
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then— you know, everyone going rate then is— you know, everyone going rate then is to — you know, everyone going rate then is tojust reassert you know, everyone going rate then is to just reassert that this— then is to just reassert that this is— then is to just reassert that this is a _ then is to just reassert that this is a strong partnership. a cell line — this is a strong partnership. a cell line somewhere saying that this is— cell line somewhere saying that this is an — cell line somewhere saying that this is an ironclad relationship but that is also an because iron can rust and if there are _ an because iron can rust and if there are cracks potentially for the _ there are cracks potentially for the first time, south korea is not — for the first time, south korea is not feeling entirely comfortable with a alliance particularly when it comes to security— particularly when it comes to security so that was also a big reason — security so that was also a big reason why this all took place and for— reason why this all took place and for all the of pomp and circumstance each side wanted to reassert themselves especially because of the spate of north— especially because of the spate of north korea hanging over the event _ of north korea hanging over the event. , . ~ of north korea hanging over the event. , ., ,, ., ., event. lets talk about some of the brass _ event. lets talk about some of the brass tacks _ event. lets talk about some of the brass tacks of _ event. lets talk about some of the brass tacks of what - event. lets talk about some of the brass tacks of what we - the brass tacks of what we witnessed this week and something we saw the south korean president actually say today. i will read out a quote from him. he was speaking earlier today and he said a nuclear weapon is notjust nuclear weapon is not just about nuclear weapon is notjust about technology. it is about complex politics and economics. you need to give up many of the values we have been uploading if we decide to develop our own
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weapons. those who say we need to have our own nuclear arsenal are not considering all these factors. jumping in here to this complex statement, what you read from that.— you read from that. ever say that you _ you read from that. ever say that you are _ you read from that. ever say that you are absolutely - you read from that. ever say that you are absolutely rightj that you are absolutely right that you are absolutely right that the military alliance, this mutual defence treaty that we have had for 70 years has to change because the situation has changed. because north korea has developed nuclear weapons and is continuing to develop them and so we saw an upgrade in that agreement by including damage about deterrence and specific concrete details about that relationship. however, ido think that what the president was referring to is that to acknowledge north korea's nuclear power and to allow north korea to continue to develop nuclear weapons would also continue to face discussions in south korea about meeting their own nuclear weapons and needing to protect themselves. and so what we also saw this week was that washington declaration,
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language about south korea upholding its agreement on the nuclear non—proliferation treaty and promising that they would not pursue their own nuclear weapons.— would not pursue their own nuclear weapons. some people were saying — nuclear weapons. some people were saying this _ nuclear weapons. some people were saying this is _ nuclear weapons. some people were saying this is not - nuclear weapons. some people were saying this is notjust - were saying this is notjust about— were saying this is notjust about preventing north korea from — about preventing north korea from getting nuclear weapons, it is about _ from getting nuclear weapons, it is about preventing south korea — it is about preventing south korea from seeking that out and as you _ korea from seeking that out and as you mention, they had the capahiiity_ as you mention, they had the capability and the knowledge. it is capability and the knowledge. it is a — capability and the knowledge. it is a very advanced country when — it is a very advanced country when it— it is a very advanced country when it comes to sign so it would _ when it comes to sign so it would not maybe take long have they decided to go down that road — they decided to go down that road but _ they decided to go down that road but it was something that the united states does not want to see — the united states does not want to see. they don't want to see a tmild-up— to see. they don't want to see a build—up of that tension pointed _ a build—up of that tension pointed that border. they don't want _ pointed that border. they don't want to— pointed that border. they don't want to see another nuclear arms— want to see another nuclear arnrs race _ want to see another nuclear arms race in the world but it is interesting that maybe now he has — is interesting that maybe now he has left the dc spotlight speaking to his base back over a majority_ speaking to his base back over a majority of south koreans actuatiy _ a majority of south koreans actually would support seeing the country building up its own nuclear— the country building up its own nuclear weapons. so slightly different comments now that we're — different comments now that we're hearing from the president now that he is not in dc any— president now that he is not in dc any more. president now that he is not in dc any more-—
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president now that he is not in dc any more. what did you think about that _ dc any more. what did you think about that because _ dc any more. what did you think about that because i _ dc any more. what did you think about that because i saw - dc any more. what did you think about that because i saw some l about that because i saw some commentators debating whether this was a win for south korea, this was a win for south korea, this visit and the washington declaration? element i am sure will be some voices saying this is not enough. that we need the right to build your own nuclear weapons and unhappy that this declaration essentially promises not to do that but of course there are voices on the other side that are saying that there is too much about deterrence here and not enough about talking about diplomacy and how we are going to engage north korea which is what the previous south korean president really focused his presidency on so it is very hard in south korea. it on so it is very hard in south korea. , . , on so it is very hard in south korea. , ., , , . korea. it is a very difficult issue and _ korea. it is a very difficult issue and it _ korea. it is a very difficult issue and it is _ korea. it is a very difficult issue and it is so - korea. it is a very difficult l issue and it is so polarised. so you can be sure that they are going to be unhappy about it. but i do think we should look at this as an upgrade of the defence agreement that we have had for 70 years, taking into account the fact that the nuclear threat is so present
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and continues to grow for north korea. ~ . . , and continues to grow for north korea. ~ ., .,, i. and continues to grow for north korea. ~ ., , , ., korea. what was your sense of how much _ korea. what was your sense of how much trust _ korea. what was your sense of how much trust there - korea. what was your sense of how much trust there is - korea. what was your sense of how much trust there is in - korea. what was your sense of how much trust there is in this| how much trust there is in this relationship between washington and seoul right now?— and seoul right now? saying over the whole _ and seoul right now? saying over the whole thing - and seoul right now? saying over the whole thing was - and seoul right now? saying over the whole thing was a l over the whole thing was a scandal— over the whole thing was a scandal we saw with these leaked _ scandal we saw with these leaked pentagon documents that seem _ leaked pentagon documents that seem to — leaked pentagon documents that seem to suggest that the us has been _ seem to suggest that the us has been the — seem to suggest that the us has been the stinging or spying on what _ been the stinging or spying on what is — been the stinging or spying on what is a — been the stinging or spying on what is a very strong ally, south _ what is a very strong ally, south korea. back home in korea that was— south korea. back home in korea that was not domestically a great — that was not domestically a great thing for the president. it great thing for the president. it felt — great thing for the president. it felt like a lot of the issue were — it felt like a lot of the issue were swept aside for this meeting, for the six days. a lot of— meeting, for the six days. a lot of backslapping, handshaking, reaffirming these relationships. so it felt like, if you — relationships. so it felt like, if you are _ relationships. so it felt like, if you are mentioning, this is a strong _ if you are mentioning, this is a strong cultural commitment. a very strong — a strong cultural commitment. a very strong bond and they were pretty— very strong bond and they were pretty willing, i think, to move _ pretty willing, i think, to move past that and leaving the meeting — move past that and leaving the meeting on good terms. speaking of cultural commitments, - meeting on good terms. speaking of cultural commitments, we - meeting on good terms. speaking of cultural commitments, we saw| of cultural commitments, we saw netflix announcing this huge investment in south korea. how important is this for south korea? element one of the things i want to talk about is
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that this meeting this week was about notjust honouring the 70 year relationship that started really on the battlefield during the korean war. but that it has progressed _ during the korean war. but that it has progressed beyond - it has progressed beyond military protection and is one of the economic partnership and we saw a discussion about how south korea has gone from being one of the poorest countries in the world back then, to one of the world back then, to one of the richest and largest and south korea able to work as a partner to the united states but certainly it has gotten so big and it is a reflection of that power. big and it is a reflection of that power-— that power. the president mentioning _ that power. the president mentioning bts, - that power. the president mentioning bts, squid - that power. the president - mentioning bts, squid games, parasite. — mentioning bts, squid games, parasite, the a foreign language film to win the best picture — language film to win the best picture at the oscars a few years— picture at the oscars a few years back and it is amazing what — years back and it is amazing what this— years back and it is amazing what this korean culture has done —
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what this korean culture has done and _ what this korean culture has done and netflix is investing a lot of— done and netflix is investing a lot of money and clearly they think— lot of money and clearly they think that people want more content _ think that people want more content. , , . think that people want more content. , ., . ., content. this is a chance for the united _ content. this is a chance for the united states _ content. this is a chance for the united states to - content. this is a chance for the united states to show i content. this is a chance for. the united states to show how working with the country and supporting a country and nurturing it over all these decades can produce a country like south korea, and so i also see it as strategic. and it is a way to show other countries, listen, side with us and see what you can do.— listen, side with us and see what you can do. great to get both of your _ what you can do. great to get both of your perspectives. - both of your perspectives. we'll have you on a little bit later the interesting point she made there. thank you both. meanwhile, china has responded to yoon's visit to the united states and comments he's made on the trip. nao ming, the spokesperson for china's foreign ministry said: "we oppose deliberately stirring up tension, provoking confrontation, and playing up threats." the response comes as the us ramps up their presence in the region. 0ur asia pacific correspondent laura bicker sent this report from the phillipines. life is fragile in this northern frontier of the philippines. impenetrable limestone cliffs and frequent storms can cut the island off for weeks. but people here face a new threat — caught
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between two superpowers trying to gain supremacy over these seas. cyrus is out to catch flying fish — the islanders�* favourite. but on his days out at sea, fishing in the philippine waters just south of taiwan, he spotted chinese ships getting ever closer. a the chinese fishermen used to harass us. even the chinese coastguard used to roam around the island. chinese coastguard? yes. cock crows the native ivatans have forged a living fishing and farming on this island for centuries, taking only what they need. it's very fresh air. we live here in peace. but their proximity to taiwan has made them both a strategic
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us ally and a vulnerable foe. the us and the philippines held combat drills here to practice defending an island from aggressors — part of the largest military exercises the two allies have ever staged. this is about more than a show of arms. this is about washington building an arc of alliances across asia — south korea, japan, the philippines, australia. the idea is to build a reliable coalition, just in case there's conflict with china. but some fear an increasing us presence will provoke the people's republic of china. we don't want a war with the prc. we do not want that, we do not desire that, we are not provoking that. a war with the prc is good for nobody, including the prc. our method of operation here, and a goal of our campaign
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in the region, is to deter conflict from ever occurring. this sleepy town in the far north of the filipino mainland is now part of that deterrent. santa ana is home to a tiny naval base — one of four new filipino sites the us can access — but some fear it could make the area a target. it's really difficult. that's why we trying to provide some inputs, too, about it, and the feelings of our people, so that more superpowers will see, you know, how it is hard and how hard it is for us to choose between the two of them. between a neighbour who has never been our enemy, and between a long ally with so many difficulties, too. but distance from the politics and the rhetoric, the people of these islands try not to dwell on what could be and enjoy what they have. an island life is a simple life, they tell me. with a close eye to the north, they pray daily that it will stay that way. laura bicker, bbc
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news, in itbayat. with me now isjean lee again, co—host of the lazarus heist podcast, and dennis wilder, seniorfellow for the initiative for us—china dialogue at georgetown university, previously served as the nsc director for china. good evening to you. i will start with you. we were seeing this report about the philippines feeling caught between the us and china. how key is the philippines to both players in the region? the philippines _ players in the region? the philippines has _ players in the region? the philippines has not - players in the region? tie: philippines has not been a major player until very recently. for a while, the philippines were sort of standing back from the american alliance but because of aggressive chinese actions in the south china sea the philippines has now decided to allow more us bases, more us
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logistics hubs in the philippines, very close to taiwan. and this has elicited a very strong reaction from beijing. very strong reaction from bei'inu. ~ . , very strong reaction from bei'inu. ~ ., , very strong reaction from bei'inu. ~ . , .,~ very strong reaction from bei'inu. ~ ., , .,~ ., beijing. what is your take on this? the — beijing. what is your take on this? the significance - beijing. what is your take on this? the significance in - beijing. what is your take on this? the significance in the | this? the significance in the philippines for both the us and china? . , philippines for both the us and china? ., , , philippines for both the us and china? . , , , china? certainly seeing my military activity _ china? certainly seeing my military activity by - china? certainly seeing my military activity by the - military activity by the chinese. i think what has been happening as well is that the chinese _ happening as well is that the chinese have been using the pocketbook to gain influence in the region and many countries are now— the region and many countries are now very dependent on trade with china — are now very dependent on trade with china and so it makes it very— with china and so it makes it very hard _ with china and so it makes it very hard for them to stand up to china — very hard for them to stand up to china and so i think we have seen. — to china and so i think we have seen. over— to china and so i think we have seen, overthe to china and so i think we have seen, over the years, to china and so i think we have seen, overthe years, from washington, a concerted effort to try— washington, a concerted effort to try to— washington, a concerted effort to try to deal with and counter that— to try to deal with and counter that growing influence that china — that growing influence that china has exerted notjust in the indo—pacific but around the world — the indo-pacific but around the world. �* , ., ., the indo-pacific but around the world. , ., ., . ., world. because of a particular the aggressive _ world. because of a particular the aggressive posture? - world. because of a particular the aggressive posture? you| the aggressive posture? you think that has really sparked washington's in the philippines? it
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washington's in the philippines?- washington's in the philippines? washington's in the philiuines? philippines? it is all about. it is trying _ philippines? it is all about. it is trying to _ philippines? it is all about. it is trying to make - philippines? it is all about. it is trying to make sure i philippines? it is all about. i it is trying to make sure that they— it is trying to make sure that they have _ it is trying to make sure that they have some influence and control — they have some influence and control i_ they have some influence and control. i don't know if control— control. i don't know if control is the right word but make — control is the right word but make sure that they have influence in that region, in the — influence in that region, in the waters. that is where the indo—pacific. disband the influence the us has in that broader— influence the us has in that broader region in the waters as well _ broader region in the waters as well 0n— broader region in the waters as well. on the island beyond asia — well. on the island beyond asia |f— well. on the island beyond asia. ., ., ~' well. on the island beyond asia. ., ., ., asia. if we look at how china has reacted _ asia. if we look at how china has reacted to _ asia. if we look at how china has reacted to the _ asia. if we look at how china has reacted to the meeting l asia. if we look at how china i has reacted to the meeting that we saw this week, they accuse both the us and south korea of stirring up tensions and the potential there. to think this will inflame tensions with china further? you make the chinese have not liked the president from the day he took office. he president from the day he took office. . , . ~ president from the day he took office. ., , ., ,, ., ., , office. he has taken a fairly hard-line — office. he has taken a fairly hard-line stance _ office. he has taken a fairly hard-line stance towards i ha rd—line stance towards beijing hard—line stance towards beijing on many issues and one of the things he has done recently is to engage in the taiwan issue. now, per south korean president always avoided the taiwan issue for fear of
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upsetting beijing but yoon suk yeol has spoken out rather strongly. there was a statement while he was in washington on taiwan. the chinese government. they also are angry with him because he really shows no interest in trying to negotiate with the north koreans. he offered a plan for negotiation that was immediately rejected by the north and you will see in the washington conference, that there were no new initiatives in the diplomatic side. so the chinese think he is with the opponent washington at this point and really do not like the government in south korea at this time. do like the government in south korea at this time.— korea at this time. do think that the chinese _ korea at this time. do think that the chinese were - korea at this time. do think- that the chinese were expecting some sort of new initiatives to come out of this meeting? title. some sort of new initiatives to come out of this meeting? no, i think that _ come out of this meeting? no, i think that they _ come out of this meeting? no, i think that they have _ come out of this meeting? no, i think that they have read - think that they have read president yoon suk yeol very well. i do think, my own personal view is that now that the military side has been
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bolstered, there needs to be more creative thinking on the side than we have seen so far out of washington. 0n side than we have seen so far out of washington. on this issue. and out of soul. but i do not think that the chinese were expecting anything at this meeting. is were expecting anything at this meetinu. , , ., meeting. is the president a particularly _ meeting. is the president a particularly large _ meeting. is the president a particularly large thorn - meeting. is the president a particularly large thorn in i meeting. is the president a i particularly large thorn in the side of the chinese? t particularly large thorn in the side of the chinese?- side of the chinese? i think that he is — side of the chinese? i think that he is right. _ side of the chinese? i think that he is right. the - side of the chinese? i think. that he is right. the previous south — that he is right. the previous south korean president prioritised engaging the north koreans and was very unwilling to antagonise china because he felt that— to antagonise china because he felt that china was a key piece to bringing north korea back into those discussions and negotiations. and so what we are seeing is a shift with this south — are seeing is a shift with this south korean president to prioritising the relationship of the _ prioritising the relationship of the united states. sol think— of the united states. sol think that i agree with dennis. also— think that i agree with dennis. also that _ think that i agree with dennis. also that we need to have some creative — also that we need to have some creative thinking when it comes to diplomacy and i do think that— to diplomacy and i do think that china has to be part of that—
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that china has to be part of that discussion if we want to bring — that discussion if we want to bring north korea back to the negotiating table so the united states— negotiating table so the united states is going to have to find a way— states is going to have to find a way to— states is going to have to find a way to work with china and find — a way to work with china and find common ground when it comes— find common ground when it comes to _ find common ground when it comes to north korea. we have not seen — comes to north korea. we have not seen a _ comes to north korea. we have not seen a lot of proposals for that — not seen a lot of proposals for that at— not seen a lot of proposals for that. at the moment, the administration is very keen not to make — administration is very keen not to make any concessions. they said _ to make any concessions. they said the — to make any concessions. they said the door is open to but they— said the door is open to but they won't make any first moves and that— they won't make any first moves and that has been very clear and — and that has been very clear and president yoon suk yeol agrees — and president yoon suk yeol agrees with that. they're very much — agrees with that. they're very much in — agrees with that. they're very much in line with it comes to the approach to north korea but it does— the approach to north korea but it does not leave a lot of room for openings at this point. and so it— for openings at this point. and so it is— for openings at this point. and so it is very hard to see how we're — so it is very hard to see how we're going to make our way out of this — we're going to make our way out of this it— we're going to make our way out of this. , . , of this. it is an interesting oint. of this. it is an interesting point. china _ of this. it is an interesting point. china is _ of this. it is an interesting point. china is needed - of this. it is an interesting point. china is needed to| of this. it is an interesting . point. china is needed to rein in pyongyang but the question is, does china want to? how does china see this build—up we have seen in pyongyang in recent weeks and months? in have seen in pyongyang in recent weeks and months? in the current state _ recent weeks and months? in the current state of _ recent weeks and months? in the current state of us _ recent weeks and months? in the current state of us china - current state of us china relations which are as low as
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i've seen them since the tiananmen crisis of 1989, china does not want to do the united states any favours. and so, in some ways, they have allowed the north koreans to move forward with their missile and nuclear programmes is a thorn in the american side. i do think that getting china into the negotiations is a real necessity. i was part of the negotiations in the bush administration when we had the six party talks which the chinese actually mediated. and we did make some progress in that period dealing with north korea. i think china is central to this problem. china has leveraged over the north koreans that none of us have. the north koreans are very dependent on the chinese economic fee. so there is some room here and if we could get america china relations back a little better track, this would be one of the issues that i would like to see taken up. i would like to see taken up. i do very quickly want to get your take on the phone call
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that was between the chinese president and the ukrainian president. do you think this changes china's stance on the war in ukraine? l changes china's stance on the war in ukraine?— war in ukraine? i think that there is an _ war in ukraine? i think that there is an opening - war in ukraine? i think that there is an opening here i war in ukraine? i think that i there is an opening here that president zelensky sees trying to move the chinese to a better position. i not think the chinese have moved yet. they continue even with the call to zelensky not call it an invasion. they continue to still have very warm ties with moscow but zelensky might think that there is at least a measure of opportunity here and i think he is very smart to take it up. test the chinese. see if the chinese will move a little bit. see the chinese will use their influence with moscow because it is not in the chinese interest to have this war go on forever. l chinese interest to have this war go on forever.— war go on forever. i 'ust quickly i war go on forever. i 'ust quickly want i war go on forever. i 'ust quickly want to i war go on forever. i 'ust quickly want to get i war go on forever. ijust quickly want to get jean | quickly want to getjean because my take on that. l quickly want to get jean
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because my take on that. i am watchin: because my take on that. i am watching it _ because my take on that. i am watching it closely. _ because my take on that. i am watching it closely. i— because my take on that. i am watching it closely. i think i because my take on that. i am watching it closely. i think it i watching it closely. i think it is interesting watching china wanting _ is interesting watching china wanting to step into the role of a — wanting to step into the role of a global mediator and that is also — of a global mediator and that is also something of old with north— is also something of old with north korea so certainly watching them to see whether this will— watching them to see whether this will amount to anything. i'd this will amount to anything. i'd make _ this will amount to anything. i'd make a very interesting conversation with those of you. good _ conversation with those of you. good evening to both of you and thank— good evening to both of you and thank you — good evening to both of you and thank you forjoining us. and before we go, we want to hand over the microphone to south korean president yoon suk yeol, who dazzled presidentjoe biden and the white house crowd this week with his own rendition of don mclean's classic �*american pie'. enjoy: a long, long time ago... i can still remember how that music is to make me smile. that i could make those people dance and may be they'd be happy for and may be they'd be happy for a while. bad news on the
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doorstep... the bank holiday weekend is upon us, and the weather is looking a little mixed, but, you know, overall, it's not going to be too bad. plenty of sunny spells in the forecast, but one or two showers, and some of them could be heavy. let's have a look at the big picture. across our neck of the woods, so a low pressure in the north atlantic, a large one, and it's helping to draw in a warm atmosphere from the southern climes. infact, milderair coming all the way from the azores. but the very far north of scotland, under the influence of a colder current of air from the north. so here is the forecast for the early morning, for saturday, and it's a sort
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of mild—ish start to the day. it's certainly not frosty out there, 5—10 celsius in some spots. a lot of cloud in the morning, first thing, particularly across the northern half of the uk. and then showers are expected to develop from wales, the midlands, the north—west of england, certainly in northern ireland, maybe one or two in scotland as well. the best of the sunshine and the warmest weather will be across the south. take a look at these temperatures, 19 or 20 celsius in london, about that as far west as cardiff. but in scotland, chilly, only 7 celsius expected in aberdeen. in fact, it will be chilly right along the north sea coast. here's a look at sunday, i think there'll be quite a few showers around, hit and miss, sure, but some thunderstorms are possible in northern ireland, so there could be some downpours. again, the best of the weather on sunday further towards the south and east, temperatures in the high teens, but more typically, it'll be around about 15—16 celsius. so that's the end of sunday. how about the bank holiday itself? well, overall, again,
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not looking bad for most of us. high pressure is close by, particularly out towards the west. but weather fronts also affecting the north of scotland, and also showers are in the forecast for east anglia in the south—east. and, again, there could be one or two downpours. so after a sunny saturday and sunday, showers on the cards for london and the south—east. elsewhere, variable amounts of cloud and actually not looking too bad at all. look at that, 17 celsius in newcastle, around 16 celsius in belfast. let's have a look at the outlook then for the week ahead. so here's that little mixed weekend, and then into next week, i think the temperatures will ease somewhat, but overall the weather isn't looking too bad. bye— bye.
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