happy bank holiday monday. welcome to the nation's forenoon. later on, at ten o'clock, this row about everybody if they want to obviously swirling the author of allegiance at the coronation, the karaoke coronation thing everyone is talking about. not compulsory, but what about. not compulsory, but what about modernity? that's coming up later on. allegiance. an interesting word. are you with the nurses? the biggest strike so

far today in england. the third this year. but the first time some nurses who work in a&e, intensive care and cancer services have joined the picket line. although the union has agreed that staff can be called in for some critical areas. big meeting tomorrow between various health unions, nhs bosses, and the government to discuss a 5% pay offer. the royal college of nursing though have already said no. it says they need to retain and recruit staff. the government says they've come a long way in their pay offer, and that this latest strike will put more pressure on the nhs and be incredibly disruptive for patients. are you a striking nurse? or a patient affected by what's happening? what do you think of the continuing strikes? it's very important we hear from you

this morning was the path of trusts will be affected. this morning are you with the nurses? nhs england... nhs england has warned that staffing levels in some areas of the country will be "exceptionally low" today because of a strike by nurses. it's the first time that a walkout by members of the rcn union will affect critical services, like intensive care. but some staff will be allowed to come off the picket line to help in emergencies. a final rescue flight for british nationals is due to leave sudan later today. it'll fly from port sudan — which is hundreds of miles away from the capital khartoum — where more fighting has been reported as rival military leaders attempt to take control

of the country. us regulators are trying to find a buyer for the troubled first republic bank in california. they're concerned it could become the third american lender to fail this year —— after silicon valley and signature banks. primary schools across the uk will receive packets of wildflower seeds to mark the king's coronation. it's hoped they'll be used to create new areas for bees and butterflies. the biggest nurses strike yet. let's hear from you on this. are you with the nurses? where you never with the nurses? on friday the rcn agreed with nhs england that there would be safety critical mitigations when it comes to saving life and limb, so let's hear from you. the

to saving life and limb, so let's hearfrom you. the nhs pay review body have said the average basic pay per full—time employee 3a,275, a figure from march 2021. the government say the figure was increased to 35,600 by march 2022 and the nurses were given a £1400 increase, which should take the average up to £37,000, but nurses are paid on a graded scale, the most honest —— common grade is banned five which account for 42% of nurses, salaries ranging between 77000 and 32,000 -- 27,000 and nearly 33,000. this is the overriding backdrop of recruitment and retention as well. laura in cornwall. good morning. welcome to

the nation's phoning five live, lucy and antonio in hastings. this joining you from a picket line. we are hearing lots of motorcycles. hopefully they won't choose the moment i'm talking to drive fast. why is this so important to you? it is important because i'm passionate, emotive sites are passing, i'm sorry. emotive sites are passing, i'm sor . , , . sorry. tell me the issue recruitment and retirement. _

sorry. tell me the issue recruitment and retirement. the _ sorry. tell me the issue recruitment and retirement. the rcn - sorry. tell me the issue recruitment and retirement. the rcn have i and retirement. the rcn have been lobbying _ and retirement. the rcn have been lobbying for _ and retirement. the rcn have been lobbying for years _ and retirement. the rcn have been lobbying for years to - and retirement. the rcn have i been lobbying for years to safeguard the outcome. patients are dying because you're so striking, it nurses are striking because patients are dying. we are having a real nursing crisis, we are desperate. one in three nurses are struggling to feed theirfamilies, one in three nurses are struggling to feed their families, the fact of whether inflation goes down or not, food inflation at 19.1%, the greatest percentage of what people are spending their money on a new weekly shop and it is a real struggle. not only that, i'm heartbroken for colleagues not able to be the nurses they are trained to be because of over successive government failure to fund the nhs properly. there is determination to make sure we make this an attractive profession for people to remain in

and to try and get nurses to choose the profession. we are seeing a brain drain, young nurses perhaps going to australia and new zealand where they will have a better life. our overseas nurses we are so 0ur overseas nurses we are so dependent on finding the repercussions of the hospital environment and perhaps leaving to go to countries that offer a better worklife balance, so it is a real crisis, that's why we are on the picket line asking the government to re—enter negotiations this. lots picket line asking the government to re-enter negotiations this.— re-enter negotiations this. lots of eo - le re-enter negotiations this. lots of pebble supporting _ re-enter negotiations this. lots of people supporting nurses, - re-enter negotiations this. lots of people supporting nurses, lots - re-enter negotiations this. lots of people supporting nurses, lots of| people supporting nurses, lots of nurses straight on the phone this morning, perhaps to be expected you are up and about going for the early doors. this all comments welcome, everybody welcome. and another picket line. everybody welcome. and another picket line-— everybody welcome. and another icketline. ., ., , , picket line. good morning, ours is caettin picket line. good morning, ours is getting busy. _ picket line. good morning, ours is getting busy, more _

picket line. good morning, ours is getting busy, more and _ picket line. good morning, ours is getting busy, more and more - picket line. good morning, ours is. getting busy, more and more people coming _ getting busy, more and more people coming now. can't believe we are back_ coming now. can't believe we are back out — coming now. can't believe we are back out again picketing. i can't believe — back out again picketing. i can't believe we are back, the offer that was presented to us by the government was not enough, no recognition for nurses, no recognition for nurses, no recognition for nurses, no recognition for nursing skill and as antonia _ recognition for nursing skill and as antonia just said we are losing nurses— antonia just said we are losing nurses rapidly, haemorrhaging nurses, — nurses rapidly, haemorrhaging nurses, we can't attract them because — nurses, we can't attract them because of the... ultimately patients— because of the... ultimately patients are at risk. the only way to get— patients are at risk. the only way to get our— patients are at risk. the only way to get our voice heard is to be on the picket— to get our voice heard is to be on the picket line. the to get our voice heard is to be on the picket line.— the picket line. the nhs staff council, which _ the picket line. the nhs staff council, which works - the picket line. the nhs staff council, which works on - the picket line. the nhs staff council, which works on an i the picket line. the nhs staff - council, which works on an electoral couege council, which works on an electoral college basis, they are expected to agree, to accept this offer after the gmb union. they backed it. so the gmb union. they backed it. so the pay deal, even though you're voting to reject it? if

the pay deal, even though you're voting to reject it?— voting to re'ect it? if we pass another voting to reject it? if we pass another strike _ voting to reject it? if we pass another strike ballot - voting to reject it? if we pass another strike ballot we - voting to reject it? if we pass another strike ballot we are l voting to reject it? if we pass i another strike ballot we are out voting to reject it? if we pass - another strike ballot we are out on strike _ another strike ballot we are out on strike and — another strike ballot we are out on strike and the government need to come _ strike and the government need to come back— strike and the government need to come back and talk, and the phrase that has— come back and talk, and the phrase that has been used over the past couple _ that has been used over the past couple of— that has been used over the past couple of weeks, the government took us to the _ couple of weeks, the government took us to the high court, took the nursing — us to the high court, took the nursing profession to the high court, — nursing profession to the high court, to— nursing profession to the high court, to take 20 hours of her strike — strike away. that is clearly recognising our worth, they know we are highly— recognising our worth, they know we are highly skilled professionals and without— are highly skilled professionals and without those we can't keep patients safe, so _ without those we can't keep patients safe, so we — without those we can't keep patients safe, so we are not being able to be there. _ safe, so we are not being able to be there. it _ safe, so we are not being able to be there. it is _ safe, so we are not being able to be there, it is going to get worse and worse _ there, it is going to get worse and worse. people get worried and people -et worse. people get worried and people get concerned about strike days on the nhs, _ get concerned about strike days on the nhs, it isn't strike there is that— the nhs, it isn't strike there is that people need to worry about, is non-ere _ that people need to worry about, is non-ere the — that people need to worry about, is non—are the days where things happen, — non—are the days where things happen, but there is not the ability, _ happen, but there is not the ability, no safe two safeguarding laws _ ability, no safe two safeguarding laws it's — ability, no safe two safeguarding laws. it's non—strike days we need

tom _ laws. it's non-strike days we need to... ,., . laws. it's non-strike days we need to... , ., . . laws. it's non-strike days we need to... ., ., ., ., to... important we hear from you and net used to... important we hear from you and get used to — to... important we hear from you and get used to lay _ to... important we hear from you and get used to lay out — to. .. important we hear from you and get used to lay out your— to... important we hear from you and get used to lay out your positions - get used to lay out your positions here. how long could this go on for? unless something happens it could be indefinite? it is unless something happens it could be indefinite? , indefinite? it is in the government's - indefinite? it is in the government's hands. | indefinite? it is in the - government's hands. initially indefinite? it is in the _ government's hands. initially the government's hands. initially the government said there was no money, we went on strike and the government suddenly found money. it's all about political choices, the government had plenty, what is worth more in society to ensure we have that wonderful nhs servicing the population? to ensure we have a healthy working population. we are having people languishing on waiting lists when they could be having ops done. it makes economic sense to pay

the nurses problem and inflation has been spiralling, wages have remained low, so it's a fallacy to say that a nurse pay rise would affect inflation. nurses don't put their money in offshore accounts, they spend their money in the local shops. we treat patients with dignity and respect and surely we should be given dignity and respect, to be able to put food on the table for our children, to be able to put the heating on and respect for the safety critical nurses, the jobs that we do. we risked our lives in covid, any pandemic of unknown origin. quite often inadequate ppe. the government should have applauded us them but they had the audacity to take us to court rather than find a solution. �* . ., solution. but the rcn recommended the steel? the _ solution. but the rcn recommended the steel? the member _ solution. but the rcn recommended the steel? the member of _ solution. but the rcn recommended the steel? the member of the - solution. but the rcn recommended the steel? the member of the trade | the steel? the member of the trade union, the members _

the steel? the member of the trade union, the members are _ the steel? the member of the trade union, the members are the - the steel? the member of the trade union, the members are the ones i the steel? the member of the trade | union, the members are the ones on the ground that cdn and day out what it takes... , ., ., .., it takes... does that not indicate that things _ it takes... does that not indicate that things are _ it takes... does that not indicate that things are moving _ it takes... does that not indicate that things are moving in - it takes... does that not indicate l that things are moving in whatever she says about this potentially being indefinite if the government don't come to the table and negotiate significant movement, this does tend to suggest some might argue a bit of fracturing? i does tend to suggest some might argue a bit of fracturing?- argue a bit of fracturing? i would sa that argue a bit of fracturing? i would say that they _ argue a bit of fracturing? i would say that they meet _ argue a bit of fracturing? i would say that they meet on _ argue a bit of fracturing? i would say that they meet on the - argue a bit of fracturing? i would say that they meet on the picket| say that they meet on the picket line is determined. the members together are the ones experiencing the toll of the collective trauma of clover and letting patients down. i clover and letting patients down. i understand that the picket lines is self—selecting, so let's speak to caroline in derby. hello. abs, self-selecting, so let's speak to caroline in derby. hello.- caroline in derby. hello. a lo. needs to _ caroline in derby. hello. a lo. needs to talk _ caroline in derby. hello. a lo. needs to talk to _ caroline in derby. hello. a lo. needs to talk to you. - caroline in derby. hello. a lo. needs to talk to you. if - caroline in derby. hello. a lo. | needs to talk to you. if people caroline in derby. hello. a lo. - needs to talk to you. if people do get in touch with us, please put

your county or town of origin, where your county or town of origin, where you are calling from and your name. it's really good you have got in touch with us as well. you are a nurse, what do you think about the strike and what would you say to what you have heard already so passionately expressed? thea;r what you have heard already so passionately expressed? they are makin: passionately expressed? they are making good _ passionately expressed? they are making good points _ passionately expressed? they are making good points but _ passionately expressed? they are making good points but i - passionately expressed? they are making good points but i am - making good points but i am absolutely _ making good points but i am absolutely anti—strike. - making good points but i am absolutely anti-strike. if we absolutely anti-strike. wide? if we si . n absolutely anti-strike. wide? if we sin u- to absolutely anti-strike. wide? if we sign up to nursing. _ absolutely anti-strike. wide? if we sign up to nursing, it's _ absolutely anti-strike. wide? if we sign up to nursing, it's a _ absolutely anti-strike. wide? if we sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, | sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, nursing _ sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, nursing in — sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, nursing in the _ sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, nursing in the old _ sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, nursing in the old days— sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, nursing in the old days was - sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, j nursing in the old days was always sign up to nursing, it's a vocation, l nursing in the old days was always a vocation, _ nursing in the old days was always a vocation, it— nursing in the old days was always a vocation, it was _ nursing in the old days was always a vocation, it was never— nursing in the old days was always a vocation, it was never a _ nursing in the old days was always a vocation, it was never a choice, - nursing in the old days was always a vocation, it was never a choice, it. vocation, it was never a choice, it was _ vocation, it was never a choice, it was never— vocation, it was never a choice, it was never something _ vocation, it was never a choice, it was never something you - vocation, it was never a choice, itj was never something you decided vocation, it was never a choice, it. was never something you decided to id was never something you decided to go into— was never something you decided to go into because _ was never something you decided to go into because it— was never something you decided to go into because it was— was never something you decided to go into because it was a _ was never something you decided to go into because it was a degree, - was never something you decided to go into because it was a degree, it. go into because it was a degree, it was something _ go into because it was a degree, it was something you _ go into because it was a degree, it was something you chose - go into because it was a degree, it was something you chose because| go into because it was a degree, it- was something you chose because you love people. _ was something you chose because you love people. you — was something you chose because you love people, you love _ was something you chose because you love people, you love caring _ was something you chose because you love people, you love caring for- love people, you love caring for people — love people, you love caring for people. now. _ love people, you love caring for people. now, while _ love people, you love caring for people. now, while some - love people, you love caring for people. now, while some of. love people, you love caring for| people. now, while some of the love people, you love caring for- people. now, while some of the other colours _ people. now, while some of the other colours of— people. now, while some of the other colours of the — people. now, while some of the other colours of the nurses _ people. now, while some of the other colours of the nurses don't _ people. now, while some of the other colours of the nurses don't get - people. now, while some of the other colours of the nurses don't get paid i colours of the nurses don't get paid enough. _ colours of the nurses don't get paid enough. i'rn — colours of the nurses don't get paid enough. i'rn not— colours of the nurses don't get paid enough, i'm not necessarily- colours of the nurses don't get paid | enough, i'm not necessarily arguing that point— enough, i'm not necessarily arguing that point with _ enough, i'm not necessarily arguing that point with them, _ enough, i'm not necessarily arguing that point with them, but _ enough, i'm not necessarily arguing that point with them, but what - enough, i'm not necessarily arguing that point with them, but what i'm. that point with them, but what i'm seeing _ that point with them, but what i'm seeing is _ that point with them, but what i'm seeing is a — that point with them, but what i'm seeing is a nurse, _ that point with them, but what i'm seeing is a nurse, everyone - that point with them, but what i'm| seeing is a nurse, everyone around me at— seeing is a nurse, everyone around me at work— seeing is a nurse, everyone around me at work with _ seeing is a nurse, everyone around me at work with me _ seeing is a nurse, everyone around me at work with me has _ seeing is a nurse, everyone around me at work with me has cars, - seeing is a nurse, everyone around me at work with me has cars, they| me at work with me has cars, they -et me at work with me has cars, they get their— me at work with me has cars, they get their head _ me at work with me has cars, they get their head uncommonly - me at work with me has cars, they get their head uncommonly go - me at work with me has cars, they get their head uncommonly go onl get their head uncommonly go on holiday. _ get their head uncommonly go on

holiday. they— get their head uncommonly go on holiday, they don't _ get their head uncommonly go on holiday, they don't use _ get their head uncommonly go on holiday, they don't use food - get their head uncommonly go on . holiday, they don't use food banks, and yes, _ holiday, they don't use food banks, and yes, they— holiday, they don't use food banks, and yes, they might— holiday, they don't use food banks, and yes, they might feel— holiday, they don't use food banks, and yes, they might feel they- holiday, they don't use food banks, and yes, they might feel they needl and yes, they might feel they need more _ and yes, they might feel they need more money— and yes, they might feel they need more money for— and yes, they might feel they need more money for what _ and yes, they might feel they need more money for what they- and yes, they might feel they need more money for what they do, - and yes, they might feel they need more money for what they do, but| more money for what they do, but they have — more money for what they do, but they have a — more money for what they do, but they have a reasonable _ more money for what they do, but they have a reasonable lifestyle. l more money for what they do, but l they have a reasonable lifestyle. we are not— they have a reasonable lifestyle. we are not in— they have a reasonable lifestyle. we are not in a — they have a reasonable lifestyle. we are not in a day— they have a reasonable lifestyle. we are not in a day and _ they have a reasonable lifestyle. we are not in a day and age _ they have a reasonable lifestyle. we are not in a day and age where - are not in a day and age where striking — are not in a day and age where striking should _ are not in a day and age where striking should be _ are not in a day and age where striking should be an- are not in a day and age where striking should be an option. l are not in a day and age where - striking should be an option. talk, talk, _ striking should be an option. talk, talk, talk — striking should be an option. talk, talk, talk we _ striking should be an option. talk, talk, talk. we are _ striking should be an option. talk, talk, talk. we are in _ striking should be an option. talk, talk, talk. we are in a _ striking should be an option. talk, talk, talk. we are in a democracy, j talk, talk. we are in a democracy, keep— talk, talk. we are in a democracy, keep talking _ talk, talk. we are in a democracy, keep talking if_ talk, talk. we are in a democracy, keep talking. if the _ talk, talk. we are in a democracy, keep talking. if the government . keep talking. if the government aren't— keep talking. if the government aren't listening, _ keep talking. if the government aren't listening, then— keep talking. if the government aren't listening, then ask - keep talking. if the government l aren't listening, then ask yourself why? _ aren't listening, then ask yourself why? because _ aren't listening, then ask yourself why? because there _ aren't listening, then ask yourself why? because there isn't- aren't listening, then ask yourself why? because there isn't enoughl why? because there isn't enough money— why? because there isn't enough money to— why? because there isn't enough money to go— why? because there isn't enough money to go around. _ why? because there isn't enough money to go around. lots - why? because there isn't enough money to go around. lots of- money to go around. lots of labourers— money to go around. lots of labourers get— money to go around. lots of labourers get paid _ money to go around. lots of labourers get paid far- money to go around. lots of labourers get paid far less . money to go around. lots of. labourers get paid far less than nurses, — labourers get paid far less than nurses, and _ labourers get paid far less than nurses, and i_ labourers get paid far less than nurses, and i see _ labourers get paid far less than nurses, and i see this- labourers get paid far less than i nurses, and i see this gentleman picking _ nurses, and i see this gentleman picking up— nurses, and i see this gentleman picking up litter, _ nurses, and i see this gentleman picking up litter, a _ nurses, and i see this gentleman picking up litter, a lot _ nurses, and i see this gentleman picking up litter, a lot of- nurses, and i see this gentleman picking up litter, a lot of the - nurses, and i see this gentleman| picking up litter, a lot of the time i picking up litter, a lot of the time i drive _ picking up litter, a lot of the time i drive to— picking up litter, a lot of the time i drive to work— picking up litter, a lot of the time i drive to work early— picking up litter, a lot of the time i drive to work early in _ picking up litter, a lot of the time i drive to work early in the - picking up litter, a lot of the time i i drive to work early in the morning and he _ i drive to work early in the morning and he is _ i drive to work early in the morning and he is out — i drive to work early in the morning and he is out in— i drive to work early in the morning and he is out in all— i drive to work early in the morning and he is out in all weathers, - i drive to work early in the morning and he is out in all weathers, he i and he is out in all weathers, he won't _ and he is out in all weathers, he won't be — and he is out in all weathers, he won't be getting _ and he is out in all weathers, he won't be getting a _ and he is out in all weathers, he won't be getting a pay— and he is out in all weathers, he won't be getting a pay rise, - and he is out in all weathers, he won't be getting a pay rise, will| won't be getting a pay rise, will hemonkeys— won't be getting a pay rise, will hemonkeys not— won't be getting a pay rise, will hemonkeys not having - won't be getting a pay rise, will hemonkeys not having one. - won't be getting a pay rise, will| hemonkeys not having one. the won't be getting a pay rise, will- hemonkeys not having one. the more we say, _ hemonkeys not having one. the more we say, the _ hemonkeys not having one. the more we say, the less— hemonkeys not having one. the more we say, the less there _ hemonkeys not having one. the more we say, the less there is _ hemonkeys not having one. the more we say, the less there is for- we say, the less there is for everybody _ we say, the less there is for everybody else. _ we say, the less there is for everybody else. do - we say, the less there is for everybody else. do you - we say, the less there is for everybody else. do you notl we say, the less there is for- everybody else. do you not think with the — everybody else. do you not think with the level _ everybody else. do you not think with the level of _ everybody else. do you not think with the level of responsibility. everybody else. do you not think with the level of responsibility ofj with the level of responsibility of nursingm — with the level of responsibility of nursin: . .. with the level of responsibility of nursinu... ,~ nursing... litter picking, he will not kill someone _ nursing... litter picking, he will not kill someone if _ nursing... litter picking, he will not kill someone if he _ nursing... litter picking, he will not kill someone if he makes i nursing... litter picking, he will not kill someone if he makes a| nursing... litter picking, he will- not kill someone if he makes a drug error but _ not kill someone if he makes a drug error but nursing has a huge responsibility and pay really does not reflect that?—

responsibility and pay really does not reflect that? absolutely, doing thins not reflect that? absolutely, doing thin . s that not reflect that? absolutely, doing things that junior _ not reflect that? absolutely, doing things that junior doctors - not reflect that? absolutely, doing things thatjunior doctors are - things thatjunior doctors are doing. gray i think you know the wages when you go in, you have the option... wages when you go in, you have the 0 tion. .. ., wages when you go in, you have the otion... ., ., .,, ., wages when you go in, you have the otion... ., . .,, ., ., option... you have the option to choose a — option... you have the option to choose a different _ option... you have the option to choose a different career. - option. .. you have the option to choose a different career. i - option... you have the option to| choose a different career. i chose to be _ choose a different career. i chose to be a _ choose a different career. i chose to be a nurse _ choose a different career. i chose to be a nurse because _ choose a different career. i chose to be a nurse because i— choose a different career. i chose i to be a nurse because i passionately care about _ to be a nurse because i passionately care about mental— to be a nurse because i passionately care about mental health. _ to be a nurse because i passionately care about mental health. i- to be a nurse because i passionately care about mental health. i am - to be a nurse because i passionately care about mental health. i am not. care about mental health. i am not leaving _ care about mental health. i am not leaving that — care about mental health. i am not leaving that anytime _ care about mental health. i am not leaving that anytime soon - care about mental health. i am not leaving that anytime soon because| care about mental health. i am noti leaving that anytime soon because i don't _ leaving that anytime soon because i don't feel— leaving that anytime soon because i don't feel i— leaving that anytime soon because i don't feel i am _ leaving that anytime soon because i don't feel i am getting _ leaving that anytime soon because i don't feel i am getting paid - leaving that anytime soon because i| don't feel i am getting paid enough. i live don't feel i am getting paid enough. i live in_ don't feel i am getting paid enough. i live in more — don't feel i am getting paid enough. i live in more tired. _ don't feel i am getting paid enough. i live in more tired. if— don't feel i am getting paid enough. i live in more tired. if i _ don't feel i am getting paid enough. i live in more tired. if i did - don't feel i am getting paid enough. i live in more tired. if i did not- i live in more tired. if i did not feel— i live in more tired. if i did not feel i— i live in more tired. if i did not feel i got— i live in more tired. if i did not feel i got paid _ i live in more tired. if i did not feel i got paid enough, - i live in more tired. if i did not feel i got paid enough, i- i live in more tired. if i did not| feel i got paid enough, i would i live in more tired. if i did not. feel i got paid enough, i would go back to _ feel i got paid enough, i would go back to university, _ feel i got paid enough, i would go back to university, get _ feel i got paid enough, i would go back to university, get a - feel i got paid enough, i would go back to university, get a loan, - back to university, get a loan, study— back to university, get a loan, study something _ back to university, get a loan, study something else, - back to university, get a loan, study something else, get - back to university, get a loan, - study something else, get another 'ob. study something else, get another job we _ study something else, get another job we are — study something else, get another iob~ we are so— study something else, get another job. we are so lucky— study something else, get another job. we are so lucky in— study something else, get another job. we are so lucky in this - job. we are so lucky in this country that we _ job. we are so lucky in this country that we are — job. we are so lucky in this country that we are able _ job. we are so lucky in this country that we are able to _ job. we are so lucky in this country that we are able to do— job. we are so lucky in this country that we are able to do that. - job. we are so lucky in this country that we are able to do that. otherl that we are able to do that. other countries — that we are able to do that. other countries don't _ that we are able to do that. other countries don't have _ that we are able to do that. other countries don't have those - that we are able to do that. other. countries don't have those options, other— countries don't have those options, other cities — countries don't have those options, other cities don't— countries don't have those options, other cities don't have _ countries don't have those options, other cities don't have those - other cities don't have those options _ other cities don't have those options i_ other cities don't have those options. i am _ other cities don't have those options. i am lucky, - other cities don't have those options. lam lucky, i- other cities don't have those options. i am lucky, i am - other cities don't have those options. i am lucky, i am so| options. i am lucky, i am so grateful— options. i am lucky, i am so grateful for _ options. i am lucky, i am so grateful for everything - options. i am lucky, i am so grateful for everything i - options. i am lucky, i am so. grateful for everything i have. options. i am lucky, i am so- grateful for everything i have. and, yes, i_ grateful for everything i have. and, yes, ido— grateful for everything i have. and, yes, i do have _ grateful for everything i have. and, yes, i do have medication - grateful for everything i have. and, yes, i do have medication to- grateful for everything i have. and, yes, i do have medication to deal. yes, i do have medication to deal with, _ yes, i do have medication to deal with. just — yes, i do have medication to deal with, just because _ yes, i do have medication to deal with, just because i— yes, i do have medication to deal with, just because i mental- yes, i do have medication to deall with, just because i mental health does _ with, just because i mental health does not _ with, just because i mental health does not mean _ with, just because i mental health does not mean i _ with, just because i mental health does not mean i am _ with, just because i mental health does not mean i am not _ with, just because i mental health does not mean i am not capable . with, just because i mental health| does not mean i am not capable of making _ does not mean i am not capable of making a _ does not mean i am not capable of making a drug _ does not mean i am not capable of making a drug error, _ does not mean i am not capable of making a drug error, but _ does not mean i am not capable of making a drug error, but you - does not mean i am not capable of making a drug error, but you know what _ making a drug error, but you know what they— making a drug error, but you know what they wages _ making a drug error, but you know what they wages are _ making a drug error, but you know what they wages are when - making a drug error, but you know what they wages are when you - making a drug error, but you know what they wages are when you gol making a drug error, but you know. what they wages are when you go in and we _ what they wages are when you go in and we are — what they wages are when you go in and we are only—

what they wages are when you go in and we are only fairly— what they wages are when you go in and we are only fairly good - what they wages are when you go in and we are only fairly good wage. ii and we are only fairly good wage. i would _ and we are only fairly good wage. i would say— and we are only fairly good wage. i would say perhaps— and we are only fairly good wage. i would say perhaps the _ and we are only fairly good wage. i would say perhaps the band - and we are only fairly good wage. i would say perhaps the band force i and we are only fairly good wage. i. would say perhaps the band force and below _ would say perhaps the band force and below to _ would say perhaps the band force and below to serve — would say perhaps the band force and below to serve a _ would say perhaps the band force and below to serve a pay— would say perhaps the band force and below to serve a pay rise, _ would say perhaps the band force and below to serve a pay rise, end - would say perhaps the band force and below to serve a pay rise, end of. - below to serve a pay rise, end of. side _ below to serve a pay rise, end of. side going — below to serve a pay rise, end of. side going forward _ below to serve a pay rise, end of. side going forward nurses - below to serve a pay rise, end of. side going forward nurses coming into the _ side going forward nurses coming into the profession, _ side going forward nurses coming into the profession, why- side going forward nurses coming into the profession, why on - side going forward nurses coming into the profession, why on earth| into the profession, why on earth would _ into the profession, why on earth would they— into the profession, why on earth would they choose _ into the profession, why on earth would they choose the _ into the profession, why on earth i would they choose the profession... with a _ would they choose the profession... with a wage — would they choose the profession... with a wage that _ would they choose the profession... with a wage that does _ would they choose the profession... with a wage that does not _ would they choose the profession... with a wage that does not match . would they choose the profession... | with a wage that does not match the cost of _ with a wage that does not match the cost of living? do you not think that protecting the future of nursing _ that protecting the future of nursing as a priority here and making — nursing as a priority here and making sure the profession can... and reintroduce the bursary? let me brina in and reintroduce the bursary? let me bring in laura _ and reintroduce the bursary? let me bring in laura as— and reintroduce the bursary? let me bring in laura as well. _ and reintroduce the bursary? let me bring in laura as well. jonty - and reintroduce the bursary? let me bring in laura as well. jonty coming l bring in laura as well. jonty coming up bring in laura as well. jonty coming up as well. lauren —— in cornwall. welcome. i up as well. lauren -- in cornwall. welcome-— up as well. lauren -- in cornwall. welcome. ., �* , ., ., ., welcome. i don't understand that at all, welcome. i don't understand that at all. moving — welcome. i don't understand that at all, moving over _ welcome. i don't understand that at all, moving over the _ welcome. i don't understand that at all, moving over the future - welcome. i don't understand that at all, moving over the future of - all, moving over the future of nursing needs new blood coming into otherwise we will not have anyone,

and it is a degree level now, that's what they've changed it to, people will come out into a job that does not match the wages. why would they choose that when they can go get a job with better benefits, less stress elsewhere? why come into the future of nursing? bringing back the bursary, that will get them through university but it does not get them through the cost of living crisis. free university means everyone else is paying _ free university means everyone else is paying for— free university means everyone else is paying for it — free university means everyone else is paying for it i_ free university means everyone else is paying for it. i don't— free university means everyone else is paying for it. i don't know- free university means everyone else is paying for it. i don't know any- is paying for it. i don't know any pure _ is paying for it. i don't know any pure nurses _ is paying for it. i don't know any pure nurses i_ is paying for it. i don't know any pure nurses. ijust_ is paying for it. i don't know any pure nurses. ijust don't - is paying for it. i don't know any pure nurses. ijust don't know. is paying for it. i don't know any- pure nurses. ijust don't know them. maybe _ pure nurses. ijust don't know them. maybe you _ pure nurses. ijust don't know them. maybe you do — pure nurses. ijust don't know them. maybe you do -- _ pure nurses. ijust don't know them. maybe you do. -- poor— pure nurses. ijust don't know them. maybe you do. —— poor nurses. - pure nurses. ijust don't know them. maybe you do. —— poor nurses. i- pure nurses. ijust don't know them. maybe you do. —— poor nurses. i do, j maybe you do. -- poor nurses. i do. i miaht maybe you do. -- poor nurses. i do. i might wait— maybe you do. -- poor nurses. i do. i might wait a _ maybe you do. -- poor nurses. i do. i might wait a minute, _ maybe you do. —— poor nurses. i might wait a minute, everyone. just a second. i might wait a minute, everyone. just a second-— i might wait a minute, everyone. just a second. jonty. carolyn, did ou sa just a second. jonty. carolyn, did you say you _ just a second. jonty. carolyn, did you say you don't _ just a second. jonty. carolyn, did you say you don't know— just a second. jonty. carolyn, did you say you don't know any - just a second. jonty. carolyn, did you say you don't know any pure | you say you don't know any pure nurses? i you say you don't know any pure nurses? ., �* �* ., , , nurses? i don't. i'm not trying be edantic

nurses? i don't. i'm not trying be pedantic here. — nurses? i don't. i'm not trying be pedantic here, i'm _ nurses? i don't. i'm not trying be pedantic here, i'm only _ nurses? i don't. i'm not trying be pedantic here, i'm only telling i pedantic here, i'm only telling people — pedantic here, i'm only telling people what— pedantic here, i'm only telling people what i_ pedantic here, i'm only telling people what i see _ pedantic here, i'm only telling people what i see —— - pedantic here, i'm only telling people what i see —— one - pedantic here, i'm only telling . people what i see —— one nurses. pedantic here, i'm only telling - people what i see —— one nurses. you io people what i see —— one nurses. you go to— people what i see —— one nurses. you go to a _ people what i see —— one nurses. you go to a car— people what i see —— one nurses. you go to a car park. _ people what i see —— one nurses. you go to a car park, there _ people what i see —— one nurses. you go to a car park, there are _ people what i see —— one nurses. you go to a car park, there are no - people what i see —— one nurses. you go to a car park, there are no old - go to a car park, there are no old cars, _ go to a car park, there are no old cars. most— go to a car park, there are no old cars. most of— go to a car park, there are no old cars, most of the _ go to a car park, there are no old cars, most of the people - go to a car park, there are no old cars, most of the people i- go to a car park, there are no old cars, most of the people i work. cars, most of the people i work with — cars, most of the people i work with they— cars, most of the people i work with... they are _ cars, most of the people i work with... they are not _ cars, most of the people i work with... they are not getting - cars, most of the people i work- with... they are not getting buses, they all— with... they are not getting buses, they all driving. _ with... they are not getting buses, they all driving, they _ with... they are not getting buses, they all driving, they all _ with... they are not getting buses, they all driving, they all get - with... they are not getting buses, they all driving, they all get a - they all driving, they all get a lease — they all driving, they all get a lease scheme, _ they all driving, they all get a lease scheme, actually. - they all driving, they all get a lease scheme, actually. they| they all driving, they all get a . lease scheme, actually. they are they all driving, they all get a - lease scheme, actually. they are not telling _ lease scheme, actually. they are not telling me _ lease scheme, actually. they are not telling me that _ lease scheme, actually. they are not telling me that. i— lease scheme, actually. they are not telling me that. i work— lease scheme, actually. they are not telling me that. i work with - lease scheme, actually. they are not telling me that. i work with them, . telling me that. i work with them, you don't — telling me that. i work with them, ou don't. , ., ., , , ., you don't. they are obviously not auoin to you don't. they are obviously not going to discuss _ you don't. they are obviously not going to discuss their _ you don't. they are obviously not going to discuss their financial i going to discuss their financial situation. we going to discuss their financial situation. ~ ., ., ,, ., situation. we often talk about it, we have a _ situation. we often talk about it, we have a couple _ situation. we often talk about it, we have a couple of— situation. we often talk about it, we have a couple of nurses - situation. we often talk about it, l we have a couple of nurses striking so we _ we have a couple of nurses striking so we often — we have a couple of nurses striking so we often have _ we have a couple of nurses striking so we often have these _ we have a couple of nurses striking so we often have these debates . we have a couple of nurses striking so we often have these debates inl so we often have these debates in our office — so we often have these debates in our office but— so we often have these debates in our office but we _ so we often have these debates in our office but we certainly- so we often have these debates in our office but we certainly are - so we often have these debates in| our office but we certainly are able to tell _ our office but we certainly are able to tell each — our office but we certainly are able to tell each other— our office but we certainly are able to tell each other what _ our office but we certainly are able to tell each other what we - our office but we certainly are able to tell each other what we are - our office but we certainly are able i to tell each other what we are doing for holidays, — to tell each other what we are doing for holidays, and _ to tell each other what we are doing for holidays, and when _ to tell each other what we are doing for holidays, and when we - to tell each other what we are doing for holidays, and when we get - for holidays, and when we get our hair done, — for holidays, and when we get our hair done, when— for holidays, and when we get our hair done, when we _ for holidays, and when we get our hair done, when we have - for holidays, and when we get our hair done, when we have a - for holidays, and when we get our hair done, when we have a new. hair done, when we have a new tattoo, — hair done, when we have a new tattoo, these _ hair done, when we have a new tattoo, these are... _ hair done, when we have a new tattoo, these are. . ._ hair done, when we have a new tattoo, these are... what are you sa in: tattoo, these are... what are you saying antonio? _ tattoo, these are... what are you saying antonio? let _ tattoo, these are... what are you saying antonio? let me - tattoo, these are... what are you saying antonio? let me hear -

saying antonio? let me hear antonio's question. we saying antonio? let me hear antonio's question.— saying antonio? let me hear antonio's question. we want to, we need to be — antonio's question. we want to, we need to be more _ antonio's question. we want to, we need to be more aware _ antonio's question. we want to, we need to be more aware of— antonio's question. we want to, we need to be more aware of maths. i antonio's question. we want to, we i need to be more aware of maths. we have seen a 20% drop in student numbers, 47,000 nurses short. over the next ten years 50% of the nurses will retire. how do we make an attractive profession unless we renew very adequately. this is why there is a direct... food banks with my staff, nurses are struggling but it is notjust nurses, is across the board. public sector, people are struggling, we need to ensure the public sector is something to be proud of and pay them more. let me take this to — proud of and pay them more. let me take this to laura _ proud of and pay them more. let me take this to laura as _ proud of and pay them more. let me take this to laura as a _ proud of and pay them more. let me take this to laura as a band five - take this to laura as a band five nurse, laura, straight by the contention that caroline does not know any pure nurses. i want you to give us an idea of the finances of yourself —— any poor nurses. we read a lot on here a lot. there are

nurses even using food banks. let me tell everyone, we will be joined by maggie heaton, an rcn rep that will take calls, so if you want to speak to her, bear that in mind. i want to play you a bit of steve barclay coming up. as the sirens go by. jonty i will be right with you as well. getting my ducks in a row. what about the money situation? io�*s what about the money situation? 10% an -a what about the money situation? ig�*e/é any pay rise would what about the money situation? 12% any pay rise would just bring us level with inflation, and depending on... top of band five will take home each month 1290—1500 which is not a lot by the time you get your take, yourfamily and everything else each month. housing prices have, but, everything has gone up.

some people might be hiding financial difficulty really well and sweeping through month—to—month. do you know any nurses using food banks? that is a shocking thing when we hear about it. idem; banks? that is a shocking thing when we hear about it.— we hear about it. very sadly i do, and it is not _ we hear about it. very sadly i do, and it is not something _ we hear about it. very sadly i do, and it is not something we - we hear about it. very sadly i do, | and it is not something we should ever hear about.— ever hear about. let's hear about what steve _ ever hear about. let's hear about what steve barclay _ ever hear about. let's hear about what steve barclay the _ ever hear about. let's hear about what steve barclay the secretary | ever hear about. let's hear about i what steve barclay the secretary of state has said. the government have said this recent strike action will still be incredibly disruptive for patients and already is, and this is what he has said. we had days of intensive negotiation with the council, a fair and reasonable settlement, that the nhs staff council recommended to its members the rcn and pat colin herself recommended this deal to her own

members. the staff council is due to meet on tuesday, i'm cautiously optimistic that the council will agree to then vote in favour of the deal but i think it is right to wait until tuesday for the staff council to me and the strike is premature, i think it's disrespectful to the other trade unions, i think the rcn should have waited, they are a member of the staff council, part of the negotiations, and pat colin herself recommended the steel to her members. welcome, maggie. thank you for coming on. what is your reaction to what steve said? the rcn announced the other day when it was all counted up that its members rejected the offer by 54% — 46%. i think the turnout was in the 60s, wasn't it? wasn't resounding. trio. think the turnout was in the 60s, wasn't it? wasn't resounding. no, it wasn't it? wasn't resounding. no, it wasn't resounding _

wasn't it? wasn't resounding. no, it wasn't resounding stop _ wasn't it? wasn't resounding. no, it wasn't resounding stop why - wasn't it? wasn't resounding. no, it wasn't resounding stop why was - wasn't it? wasn't resounding. no, it wasn't resounding stop why was it i wasn't resounding stop why was it recommended? because it would not budge, and on rcn council we felt at the same after long deliberations on this that it was better to put a recommendation out fearing that they may lose that unconsolidated cash bonus on a 22—23 additional 2%, which would have given some money in the pockets at this time. we also knew it wasn't a fair offer, and we also told our members they ultimately decide and we get. like backfire away, john t. we have maggie to respond as well, who is on the rcn council. fire away. i am

maggie to respond as well, who is on the rcn council. fire away.— the rcn council. fire away. i am for o- osed the rcn council. fire away. i am for opposed to — the rcn council. fire away. i am for opposed to any _ the rcn council. fire away. i am for opposed to any form _ the rcn council. fire away. i am for opposed to any form of _ the rcn council. fire away. i am for opposed to any form of strike - the rcn council. fire away. i am forj opposed to any form of strike action by anybody, i work in the private sector, _ by anybody, i work in the private sector, not... ido by anybody, i work in the private sector, not... i do not think educated _ sector, not... i do not think educated people should not have to id educated people should not have to go on _ educated people should not have to go on strike. it is in my dna that you should — go on strike. it is in my dna that you should not strike. to me, is like a _ you should not strike. to me, is like a toddler lying on their floor kicking _ like a toddler lying on their floor kicking leafy in the supermarket. it isiust_ kicking leafy in the supermarket. it is just not — kicking leafy in the supermarket. it is just not what adults should be doing. _ is just not what adults should be doing. it's — is just not what adults should be doing, it'sjust wrong. they have their— doing, it'sjust wrong. they have their unions, nurses and doctors, and they— their unions, nurses and doctors, and they should get back to negotiation forcibly government will come _ negotiation forcibly government will come to— negotiation forcibly government will come to the table and has put striking — come to the table and has put striking is— come to the table and has put striking isjust totally come to the table and has put striking is just totally immoral, like kicking a puppy, should not happen— like kicking a puppy, should not happen anywhere in a civilised society — happen anywhere in a civilised society. my happen anywhere in a civilised socie . g ,, ~y happen anywhere in a civilised socie . g ,, g ,, society. my goodness. my goodness. would ou society. my goodness. my goodness. would you like _ society. my goodness. my goodness. would you like me _ society. my goodness. my goodness. would you like me to _ society. my goodness. my goodness. would you like me to respond? - society. my goodness. my goodness. | would you like me to respond? would ou like to would you like me to respond? would you like to respond? _ would you like me to respond? would you like to respond? i _ would you like me to respond? would you like to respond? i know— would you like me to respond? would you like to respond? i know everyone wants to. ,., ., you like to respond? i know everyone wants to. ., . ., you like to respond? i know everyone wants to. ., i ., ., wants to. good morning, john t. you ma well

wants to. good morning, john t. you may well work— wants to. good morning, john t. you may well work in _ wants to. good morning, john t. you may well work in the _ wants to. good morning, john t. you may well work in the private - wants to. good morning, john t. you may well work in the private sector, | may well work in the private sector, i work in the public sector. you are paid better than we are. late. i work in the public sector. you are paid better than we are.— paid better than we are. no, i'm not. paid better than we are. no, i'm not- how— paid better than we are. no, i'm not- how do _ paid better than we are. no, i'm not. how do you _ paid better than we are. no, i'm not. how do you know— paid better than we are. no, i'm not. how do you know that? - paid better than we are. no, i'm| not. how do you know that? nhs encland not. how do you know that? nhs england advocate _ not. how do you know that? england advocate that we put not. how do you know that?- england advocate that we put food banks in the trust for our staff. how is that proper? you banks in the trust for our staff. how is that proper?— banks in the trust for our staff. how is that proper? you have no idea what level of — how is that proper? you have no idea what level of pay _ how is that proper? you have no idea what level of pay i'm _ how is that proper? you have no idea what level of pay i'm am _ how is that proper? you have no idea what level of pay i'm am one - how is that proper? you have no idea what level of pay i'm am one of- how is that proper? you have no idea what level of pay i'm am one of my i what level of pay i'm am one of my colleagues — what level of pay i'm am one of my colleagues are _ what level of pay i'm am one of my colleagues are on, _ what level of pay i'm am one of my colleagues are on, not _ what level of pay i'm am one of my colleagues are on, not here - what level of pay i'm am one of my colleagues are on, not here to- colleagues are on, not here to discuss — colleagues are on, not here to discuss that, _ colleagues are on, not here to discuss that, that's _ colleagues are on, not here to discuss that, that's not - colleagues are on, not here to discuss that, that's not what i colleagues are on, not here to. discuss that, that's not what my call is _ discuss that, that's not what my call is about _ discuss that, that's not what my call is about. we _ discuss that, that's not what my call is about.— discuss that, that's not what my call is about. ~ . . , ., , call is about. we have had ten years of -a call is about. we have had ten years of pay cuts. — call is about. we have had ten years of pay cuts, which _ call is about. we have had ten years of pay cuts, which is _ call is about. we have had ten years of pay cuts, which is equated - call is about. we have had ten years of pay cuts, which is equated to - call is about. we have had ten years of pay cuts, which is equated to a i of pay cuts, which is equated to a 20% pay, over the ten years. and on top of that, nhs trust have had billions of pounds of austerity cuts. this is why the nhs is in the state it currently is in, we cannot go on any more, ourfight is for safe staffing levels. we

go on any more, our fight is for safe staffing levels.— safe staffing levels. we had austerity caps _ safe staffing levels. we had austerity caps because - safe staffing levels. we had austerity caps because with | safe staffing levels. we had i austerity caps because with all safe staffing levels. we had - austerity caps because with all due respect _ austerity caps because with all due respect probably— austerity caps because with all due respect probably a _ austerity caps because with all due respect probably a lot _ austerity caps because with all due respect probably a lot of _ austerity caps because with all due respect probably a lot of nhs - austerity caps because with all due respect probably a lot of nhs thatl respect probably a lot of nhs that voted _ respect probably a lot of nhs that voted for— respect probably a lot of nhs that voted for labour— respect probably a lot of nhs that voted for labour and _ respect probably a lot of nhs that voted for labour and spent - respect probably a lot of nhs that voted for labour and spent all - respect probably a lot of nhs that voted for labour and spent all the money _ you have bankrupted the country. you have bankrupted the country! you have bankrupted the country. bit of an own goal by liam byrne you have bankrupted the country.- bit of an own goal by liam byrne but others argue austerity was a political decision, you say it was. i think some of the strike action is politically— i think some of the strike action is politically led. _ i think some of the strike action is politically led, everybody- i think some of the strike action is politically led, everybody wants i politically led, everybody wants more _ politically led, everybody wants more money, _ politically led, everybody wants more money, everybody- politically led, everybody wants more money, everybody thinks| politically led, everybody wants - more money, everybody thinks they deserve _ more money, everybody thinks they deserve more — more money, everybody thinks they deserve more money, _ more money, everybody thinks they deserve more money, but _ more money, everybody thinks they deserve more money, but my- more money, everybody thinks they deserve more money, but my point| more money, everybody thinks they. deserve more money, but my point is this is— deserve more money, but my point is this is a _ deserve more money, but my point is this is a political— deserve more money, but my point is this is a political thing, _ deserve more money, but my point is this is a political thing, i'm _ deserve more money, but my point is this is a political thing, i'm not - deserve more money, but my point is this is a political thing, i'm not a - this is a political thing, i'm not a tory— this is a political thing, i'm not a tory but — this is a political thing, i'm not a tory but it's _ this is a political thing, i'm not a tory but it's an _ this is a political thing, i'm not a tory but it's an anti—tory- this is a political thing, i'm not a tory but it's an anti—tory thing i this is a political thing, i'm not a i tory but it's an anti—tory thing and if labour— tory but it's an anti—tory thing and if labour were _ tory but it's an anti—tory thing and if labour were empowered - tory but it's an anti—tory thing and if labour were empowered nursesl if labour were empowered nurses would _ if labour were empowered nurses would not — if labour were empowered nurses would not be _ if labour were empowered nurses would not be earning _ if labour were empowered nurses would not be earning any- if labour were empowered nurses would not be earning any more . if labour were empowered nurses- would not be earning any more money. they did _ would not be earning any more money. they did not _ would not be earning any more money. they did not one — would not be earning any more money. they did not one player _ would not be earning any more money. they did not one player was _ would not be earning any more money. they did not one player was in - they did not one player was in power — they did not one player was in ower. , , ., they did not one player was in ower. , ,, they did not one player was in ower. , i. i. they did not one player was in ower. , , , power. did you bang your dustbin lid, did you _ power. did you bang your dustbin lid, did you cheer, _ power. did you bang your dustbin lid, did you cheer, did _ power. did you bang your dustbin lid, did you cheer, did you - power. did you bang your dustbin l lid, did you cheer, did you applaud the nurses? i lid, did you cheer, did you applaud the nurses?—

the nurses? i think for about five or six weeks. _ the nurses? i think for about five or six weeks. i— the nurses? i think for about five or six weeks, i did _ the nurses? i think for about five or six weeks, i did it _ the nurses? i think for about five or six weeks, i did it for- the nurses? i think for about five or six weeks, i did it for two - the nurses? i think for about five or six weeks, i did it for two and | or six weeks, i did it for two and to be _ or six weeks, i did it for two and to be honest _ or six weeks, i did it for two and to be honest after— or six weeks, i did it for two and to be honest after that - or six weeks, i did it for two and to be honest after that i- or six weeks, i did it for two and to be honest after that i felt- to be honest after that i felt distinctly _ to be honest after that i felt distinctly uncomfortable - to be honest after that i felt| distinctly uncomfortable and to be honest after that i felt- distinctly uncomfortable and stopped doin- distinctly uncomfortable and stopped doing it _ distinctly uncomfortable and stopped doin: it. ~ ., doing it. wide? i did not feel comfortable _ doing it. wide? i did not feel comfortable that _ doing it. wide? i did not feel comfortable that people - doing it. wide? i did not feel| comfortable that people were doing it. wide? i did not feel- comfortable that people were being, in very difficult circumstances... green being paid to do thejob, why do i need to bang a saucepan? who wanted to come back? from the picket line, dress what you are hearing. firstly, striking is always the last resort. we have been campaigning for over ten years for safe staffing levels, lobbying mps, trying all the other ways, so this is a last resort. it is may day today, we are celebrating international workers day, trade unions, if it was not for the trade unions we would not have a two—day weekend, it was not for the trade unions we would not have eight hour working days, it wasn't for the trade unions we would not have health and safety legislation. the trade unions are to protect the

workers regardless of the public or private sector. fine workers regardless of the public or private sector-— private sector. one of my very distant ancestors _ private sector. one of my very distant ancestors was - private sector. one of my very distant ancestors was one - private sector. one of my very distant ancestors was one of l private sector. one of my very i distant ancestors was one of the toll monitors _ distant ancestors was one of the toll monitors transported - distant ancestors was one of the toll monitors transported to - toll monitors transported to australia _ toll monitors transported to australia all— toll monitors transported to australia all those - toll monitors transported to australia all those years - toll monitors transported to. australia all those years ago. toll monitors transported to - australia all those years ago. how do ou australia all those years ago. how do you think _ australia all those years ago. how do you think you _ australia all those years ago. how do you think you are? _ australia all those years ago. do you think you are? that australia all those years ago. hut-a. do you think you are? that is australia all those years ago. do you think you are? that is an interesting phrase, international workers, some people listening of a moderate hue might say that's quite revealing, quite a red position. are revealing, quite a red position. are we not all revealing, quite a red position. fife: we not all workers? are we not all essentially working each day to make our own... for essentially working each day to make our own... :, ,,�* essentially working each day to make ourown... :, a ~ our own... for goodness' sake, let her answer- _ our own... for goodness' sake, let her answer- it _ our own... for goodness' sake, let her answer. it is _ our own... for goodness' sake, let her answer. it is quite _ our own... for goodness' sake, let her answer. it is quite revealing i her answer. it is quite revealing that this gentleman _ her answer. it is quite revealing that this gentleman did - her answer. it is quite revealing that this gentleman did not - her answer. it is quite revealing | that this gentleman did not want her answer. it is quite revealing . that this gentleman did not want to bang the pan because he felt uncomfortable. i wonder if people would have felt uncomfortable in elevating ppe for hours at a time, holding the hands of those dying who were not able to have relatives there, nurses break down in tears,

and i personally think it's insulting because each of us as nurses, we are all patients, i'm sure he has had his loved ones looked after by nurses and doctors and does he begrudge on the dignity they are not having to worry about making ends for theirfamilies? making ends for their families? everyone, making ends for theirfamilies? everyone, regardless of where you're from, to serve the right to live in dignity and have the respect of the profession that we deal with, a safety critical profession. it is an intrinsicjob. during covertly key workers were applauded because we were the ones making society text, and ifind it very were the ones making society text, and i find it very sad, were the ones making society text, and ifind it very sad, but i feel were the ones making society text, and i find it very sad, but i feel i have to emphasise lastly, as i said before, striking is always a last resort. on the picket line, we want to be there, we want to be there in hospital, but must spaghetti starting coming in, we're going to have the backed up ambulance, corridor nursing. we are the sixth—largest economy in the world. since when is corridor nursing a thing? since when... patients are

languishing in hospital. they have not got a proper care system. things have to change. the nhs was created in the government come before it was created patients were dying, suicide rates went down as soon as the nhs was formed, our greatest institution, makes economic sense to ponder properly. and staff it properly. ponder properly. and staff it --roerl. ,. i ponder properly. and staff it n-roerl. ,., i properly. understandably impassioned after ou properly. understandably impassioned after you have — properly. understandably impassioned after you have been _ properly. understandably impassioned after you have been hearing, - properly. understandably impassioned after you have been hearing, getting l after you have been hearing, getting support they are from people driving by. lindsey, where we have maggie heaton, r rcn rep, bearwith by. lindsey, where we have maggie heaton, r rcn rep, bear with me everyone. what would you like to see? i've beena i've been a nurse for 12 years now and when — i've been a nurse for 12 years now and when i — i've been a nurse for 12 years now and when i first started, i worked in the _ and when i first started, i worked in the nhs, because that is where you went — in the nhs, because that is where you went i— in the nhs, because that is where you went. i worked my way up to deputy— you went. i worked my way up to deputy ward manager because i wanted to make _ deputy ward manager because i wanted to make changes because of staff

shortages and things like that. the reason _ shortages and things like that. the reason why i left the nhs six years a-o reason why i left the nhs six years ago wasn't — reason why i left the nhs six years ago wasn't because of the pay, you can earn— ago wasn't because of the pay, you can earn the — ago wasn't because of the pay, you can earn the pay by doing the overtime _ can earn the pay by doing the overtime or doing the shifts, the reason _ overtime or doing the shifts, the reason why i left was because of staff shortages, and the reason why people _ staff shortages, and the reason why people weren't coming into nursing is because — people weren't coming into nursing is because they stop the bursaries, and people — is because they stop the bursaries, and people couldn't afford to do the training _ and people couldn't afford to do the training i_ and people couldn't afford to do the training. lam and people couldn't afford to do the training. i am a private and people couldn't afford to do the training. lam a private nurse now, iwork— training. lam a private nurse now, i work out — training. lam a private nurse now, i work out in — training. lam a private nurse now, i work out in the private sector, and one — i work out in the private sector, and one thing that upset me during the covid _ and one thing that upset me during the covid times, i worked as a deputy— the covid times, i worked as a deputy nursing home manager at the very beginning of the covid, and what _ very beginning of the covid, and what upset me is, mynhs friends who were getting covid, they were getting — were getting covid, they were getting eight weeks off with pay, getting _ getting eight weeks off with pay, getting full pay from the nhs, whenever they became ill for being on set. _ whenever they became ill for being on set. if— whenever they became ill for being on set. if i — whenever they became ill for being on set, if i got covid, i got statutory— on set, if i got covid, i got statutory sick pay, which was £90 a week _ statutory sick pay, which was £90 a week to _ statutory sick pay, which was £90 a week. to live on, with my family. if my husband — week. to live on, with my family. if my husband got covid, we both got

statutory _ my husband got covid, we both got statutory sick pay. that is an income — statutory sick pay. that is an income that is completely gone for our property, so how do you pay your bills then? _ our property, so how do you pay your bills then? but all of mynhs friends -ot bills then? but all of mynhs friends got paid _ bills then? but all of mynhs friends got paid full pay. for being off sick _ got paid full pay. for being off sick. , , ., got paid full pay. for being off sick. , , :, sor , sick. let me 'ust put that... sorry, 'ust one sick. let me 'ust put that. .. sorry, just rast— sick. let me just put that... sorry, just one last thing, _ sick. let me just put that... sorry, just one last thing, i _ sick. let me just put that... sorry, just one last thing, i just _ sick. let me just put that... sorry, just one last thing, i just think- sick. let me just put that... sorry, just one last thing, i just think if. just one last thing, ijust think if they— just one last thing, ijust think if they stopped paying the nhs nurses for pay— they stopped paying the nhs nurses for pay while they were off sick, they— for pay while they were off sick, they would have enough wages to pay nurses— they would have enough wages to pay nurses a _ they would have enough wages to pay nurses a pay rise. let they would have enough wages to pay nurses a pay rise-— nurses a pay rise. let me hear from mac uie, nurses a pay rise. let me hear from maggie. because — nurses a pay rise. let me hear from maggie, because she _ nurses a pay rise. let me hear from maggie, because she has _ nurses a pay rise. let me hear from maggie, because she has got - nurses a pay rise. let me hear from maggie, because she has got to - nurses a pay rise. let me hear from maggie, because she has got to go | nurses a pay rise. let me hear from i maggie, because she has got to go in a couple of minutes. that maggie, because she has got to go in a couple of minutes.— a couple of minutes. that is part of the nhs covid _ a couple of minutes. that is part of the nhs covid terms _ a couple of minutes. that is part of the nhs covid terms and _ a couple of minutes. that is part of. the nhs covid terms and conditions, it was to keep... let the nhs covid terms and conditions, it was to keep. . ._ the nhs covid terms and conditions, it was to keep... let maggie answer. please let me _ it was to keep... let maggie answer. please let me finish. _ it was to keep... let maggie answer. please let me finish. nhs _ it was to keep... let maggie answer. please let me finish. nhs staff- please let me finish. nhs staff counsel agreed this because we were right on the frontline, we were so susceptible of getting covid taking it back to our families,

susceptible of getting covid taking it back to ourfamilies, and we had to try and keep the nhs to ticking. now, they didn't get eight weeks, they got six weeks, sorry, two weeks, until they were clear. that was negotiated through staff counsel, which is nhs employers and the nhs unions working together. now, those covid terms and conditions went, they have gone now, we don't get that now. but what we do have, and you know if you used to work in the nhs, is our nhs terms and conditions, and we will fight vehemently to keep those terms and conditions, because they are part of our pay. so, yes, we do get the full pay, we don't get full pay, we don't get our enhancements that we lose, we don't get paid for bank holidays, but we get better terms and conditions than a lot of private companies. but that is up to your private company and yourselves to negotiate. i private company and yourselves to ne . otiate. :, private company and yourselves to

neuotiate. . i :, :, ~' private company and yourselves to neuotiate. . i :, :, ,, :, ., negotiate. i mean, if you work for a rivate negotiate. i mean, if you work for a private company. — negotiate. i mean, if you work for a private company, you _ negotiate. i mean, if you work for a private company, you take - negotiate. i mean, if you work for a private company, you take those i negotiate. i mean, if you work for a | private company, you take those pay and conditions, i guess that is your considered choice. thank you all so much, so far. 08085 909693, and text us. are you with the nurses? get in touch. good morning, and here is the news. the royal college of nursing says its latest strike the royal college of nursing says its latest strike in the royal college of nursing says its latest strike in england the royal college of nursing says its latest strike in england is the royal college of nursing says its latest strike in england is the biggest yet, with nurses walking out for the first time in critical areas including intensive care and cancer services. senior nhs managers are warning that the situation on wards will still be extremely difficult but union leaders have agreed to provide limited cover in some emergency areas. more fighting has been reported in the sudanese capital khartoum despite the rival military leaders there extending their truce. a final rescue flight for british nationals is due to

leave later today from port sudan hundreds of miles away from the capital. us regulators have announced that the failed bank first republic has been bought byjpmorgan chase. shares in first republic plunged last week after it admitted that customers had withdrawn $1 billion in deposits in march. it is the third us bank to collapse this year. and england's longest national walking trail is to be renamed the king charles iii england coastal path in honour of the coronation. currently named the england coastal path,it currently named the england coastal path, it runs for 2700 miles around the whole of the english coastline. katie smith has got the sport. thank you, good morning. mark selby says the crucible was electric as he put together a maximum break of 147, the first ever in the final of the world championships. selby trails luca brecel by 9—8 in the final, they are backin brecel by 9—8 in the final, they are back in action at 1pm this afternoon, you can watch that on bbc two. liverpool bossjurgen klopp says referee paul tierney appears to have something against his team, it

is after a bonkers 4—3 win over tottenham, spurs thought they had snatched a point after being three nil down after 15 minutes only for diogojota to find a winner 99 seconds after richarlison equalised. jurgen klopp was booked for his conduct, the premier league referees body says, we strongly refute any suggestion that paul tierney�*s actions were improper. manchester city are backed up of the league this morning, after they beat fulham 2-1. this morning, after they beat fulham 2—1. arsenal boss wants his side to repay their afans' fake tonight as the injury hit side hunt for a spot in the women's champions league final hosting wolfsburg at a sold—out emirates stadium. the tie is poised at 2—2. in cycling, adam yates finished safely in the bunch on the final stage take victory in the tour of ii.

there is going to be a bit of a swear—along, on both sides of the divide, at the coronation. this is what we are going to discuss at ten o'clock. we have all been cordially invited to join a chorus of millions, from your living room, and your street party, from wherever you may be. a chorus of millions to swear allegiance to king and his heirs as part of the coronation ceremony, it is known as the homage of the people, which is... i don't

know. and it is one of a number of changes in the ceremony. so, it is not much, i mean, you don't have to say very much, basically, it is, i swear that i will pay true allegiance to your majesty and to your heirs and successors according to law, so help me god. and then there will be a fanfare, the archbishop of canterbury will say god save the king. and all who take part in this, it is not compulsory, some people say, this is north korea! you don't have to do it. then people will be asked to respond, god save king, long live king, made a king live for ever. really? it is the last bit, it is quite curious. so, what do you think? will you be swearing along? will you be doing the oath of allegiance? god is very much involved. she is at the heart of it. so, what do you think of that? that is coming up later on.

we have got katharine da costa, our excellent bbc health correspondent. we will be right with you, can i just take another couple of calls, because i am sure you will be incredibly interested in what people are saying. are you there? yes. incredibly interested in what people are saying. are you there?- are saying. are you there? yes, i am, are saying. are you there? yes, i am. hello. _ are saying. are you there? yes, i am. hello. i _ are saying. are you there? yes, i am, hello, i am— are saying. are you there? yes, i am, hello, i am outside - are saying. are you there? yes, i am, hello, i am outside the - are saying. are you there? yes, i am, hello, i am outside the john | am, hello, i am outside thejohn radcliffe hospital in oxford for you. radcliffe hospital in oxford for ou. ~ , i :, you. we will be right with you. susan in blackpool, _ you. we will be right with you. susan in blackpool, terry - you. we will be right with you. susan in blackpool, terry in i susan in blackpool, terry in swansea, nicola in cole, what a line—up. thanks for hanging on in there, susan, idid line—up. thanks for hanging on in there, susan, i did want to come to you slightly earlier but it's busy. are you with the nurses, susan? yes. are you with the nurses, susan? yes, and no.

are you with the nurses, susan? yes, and no- 0h--- — are you with the nurses, susan? yes, and no- 0h--- my _ are you with the nurses, susan? yes, and no. oh... my husband _ are you with the nurses, susan? yes, and no. oh... my husband and - are you with the nurses, susan? yes, and no. oh... my husband and i - are you with the nurses, susan? yes, and no. oh... my husband and i are i and no. oh... my husband and i are both nhs staff, — and no. oh... my husband and i are both nhs staff, we _ and no. oh... my husband and i are both nhs staff, we are _ and no. oi my husband and i are both nhs staff, we are stressed, and no. “l.. my husband and i are both nhs staff, we are stressed, we are pushed — both nhs staff, we are stressed, we are pushed to our limit, and yes, a little _ are pushed to our limit, and yes, a little bit _ are pushed to our limit, and yes, a little bit more money would be nice, but the _ little bit more money would be nice, but the working conditions, the amount— but the working conditions, the amount of— but the working conditions, the amount of work that is put on us, you know. — amount of work that is put on us, you know. it— amount of work that is put on us, you know, it is getting worse now, and obviously like i said before, normally— and obviously like i said before, normally would be good, caroline in derby— normally would be good, caroline in derby made some amazing comments, i was so _ derby made some amazing comments, i was so glad _ derby made some amazing comments, i was so glad to hear them, that we made _ was so glad to hear them, that we made the — was so glad to hear them, that we made the choice to go into this vocation, — made the choice to go into this vocation, and you know, we have had to cut _ vocation, and you know, we have had to cut our— vocation, and you know, we have had to cut our cloth accordingly, with the cost — to cut our cloth accordingly, with the cost of — to cut our cloth accordingly, with the cost of living crisis, we are the cost of living crisis, we are the same _ the cost of living crisis, we are the same as any other family. we could _ the same as any other family. we could make — the same as any other family. we could make choices to go and work elsewhere — could make choices to go and work elsewhere but we choose not to because — elsewhere but we choose not to because what we chose to do, so probably— because what we chose to do, so probably a — because what we chose to do, so probably a bit more understanding and support from our employees with regards _ and support from our employees with regards to— and support from our employees with regards to stress levels and things would _ regards to stress levels and things would be _ regards to stress levels and things would be beneficial to us,

definitely. would be beneficialto us, definitely.— would be beneficialto us, definitel. : :, ., , i definitely. antonia put it very well earlier on about _ definitely. antonia put it very well earlier on about what _ definitely. antonia put it very well earlier on about what it _ definitely. antonia put it very well earlier on about what it was - definitely. antonia put it very well earlier on about what it was like i definitely. antonia put it very well| earlier on about what it was like on the frontline during covid, for all of you, and how much we admire do and respected you and cherish what you do, do you think there is a discordance between that level of support and affection towards nursing staff and all nhs staff with what some people are seeing as an intransigent attitude now by the government, do you see that contrast or not? , i :, :,, or not? yes, you do see the contrast. — or not? yes, you do see the contrast, but, _ or not? yes, you do see the contrast, but, yes, - or not? yes, you do see the contrast, but, yes, we - or not? yes, you do see the i contrast, but, yes, we worked through— contrast, but, yes, we worked through covid, we came home just the two of— through covid, we came home just the two of us _ through covid, we came home just the two of us together into our home, but as— two of us together into our home, but as i_ two of us together into our home, but as i say, — two of us together into our home, but as i say, this is what we set out to— but as i say, this is what we set out to do — but as i say, this is what we set out to do. we made these choices. the government, if the money isn't there. _ the government, if the money isn't there. then — the government, if the money isn't there, then the money is not there, to give _ there, then the money is not there, to give the — there, then the money is not there, to give the nurses more pay. and we are all— to give the nurses more pay. and we are all struggling, the whole country— are all struggling, the whole country is struggling, our patience are struggling, too. so, yes, you know, _ are struggling, too. so, yes, you know. it — are struggling, too. so, yes, you know. it is — are struggling, too. so, yes, you know. it is a _ are struggling, too. so, yes, you know, it is a difficult vocation to be in, _ know, it is a difficult vocation to be in, working in the nhs, wherever you are, _ be in, working in the nhs, wherever you are, whether you are clerical,

whether— you are, whether you are clerical, whether you — you are, whether you are clerical, whether you are nursing, whatever, then it's _ whether you are nursing, whatever, then it's very— whether you are nursing, whatever, then it's very difficult, and obviously with the covid as well, we're _ obviously with the covid as well, we're all— obviously with the covid as well, we're all struggling from that because _ we're all struggling from that because it was a difficult time. for all of— because it was a difficult time. for all of us _ because it was a difficult time. for all of us that carried on with it, it was— all of us that carried on with it, it was a — all of us that carried on with it, it was a difficult time for the whole — it was a difficult time for the whole country, and a lot of people did stay— whole country, and a lot of people did stay at — whole country, and a lot of people did stay at home and we carried on working. _ did stay at home and we carried on working, but that is what we chose to do _ working, but that is what we chose to do. :, ~ working, but that is what we chose to do. . ,, i :, :, to do. thank you for getting in touch with _ to do. thank you for getting in touch with us _ to do. thank you for getting in touch with us this _ to do. thank you for getting in touch with us this morning, i to do. thank you for getting in - touch with us this morning, susan, terry in swansea, bernie coming up as well, and we will get the considered remarks of nikola and katharine. terry, if the money is not there, the money is not there, terry, you heard it from susan, is she right or not?— she right or not? well, simple method for — she right or not? well, simple method for me, _ she right or not? well, simple method for me, erm, - she right or not? well, simple method for me, erm, and - she right or not? well, simple method for me, erm, and i i she right or not? well, simplel method for me, erm, and i had she right or not? well, simple i method for me, erm, and i had a daughter who worked in the nhs until she retired, is, sacked most of the management. we've got far too much management. we've got far too much management in hospitals. you have a management in hospitals. you have a management for every department and then you have a management for the

management and then you have an area management and then you have an area management for the three or four hospitals, why do we need all these people? how much money are they taking away from nursing? is people? how much money are they taking away from nursing?- taking away from nursing? is that not necessary _ taking away from nursing? is that not necessary for _ taking away from nursing? is that not necessary for the _ taking away from nursing? is that not necessary for the operation i taking away from nursing? is that| not necessary for the operation of this extraordinary, gargantuan...? this extraordinary, gargantuan... ? no. this extraordinary, gargantuan...? no. when i was a kid, and i lived in england when i was a kid, i was born in england, the local hospital to me had 1000 beds. it was run by one accountant and three matrons. no management team, just the three matrons and a guy who did the books, basically. i don't see the nhs is any different today. yes, we have more diseases, yes, we have more beds, but do we need...? i know my local hospital has over 500 management team. and it is not... this management team. and it is not... as you say, we have more treatments, we have more patients now as well. but we need have more patients now as well. mt we need more nurses, we don't need

management. we need a few managers. ward sisters, senior ward sisters in particular, are doing thejob ward sisters, senior ward sisters in particular, are doing the job that matrons used to do but they're getting paid less.— matrons used to do but they're getting paid less. bernie, you are in now is. — getting paid less. bernie, you are in now is, what— getting paid less. bernie, you are in now is, what do _ getting paid less. bernie, you are in now is, what do you _ getting paid less. bernie, you are in now is, what do you say - getting paid less. bernie, you are in now is, what do you say to - getting paid less. bernie, you are i in now is, what do you say to that? hello. is in now is, what do you say to that? hello. , :, :, in now is, what do you say to that? hello. , ., ., ,i in now is, what do you say to that? hello. , . ., ,i i hello. is that a point by terry? absolutely- — hello. is that a point by terry? absolutely. far _ hello. is that a point by terry? absolutely. far too _ hello. is that a point by terry? absolutely. far too much - hello. is that a point by terry? - absolutely. far too much management and not _ absolutely. far too much management and not enough nurses, and the nurses— and not enough nurses, and the nurses that _ and not enough nurses, and the nurses that we have got, the morale is really— nurses that we have got, the morale is really poor, and they are not actually — is really poor, and they are not actually valued enough. we need to have a _ actually valued enough. we need to have a look— actually valued enough. we need to have a look at the whole structure, and it _ have a look at the whole structure, and it isn't— have a look at the whole structure, and it isn'tjust about have a look at the whole structure, and it isn't just about the finances, it isn'tjust about and it isn't just about the finances, it isn't just about the money, — finances, it isn't just about the money, which obviously we all need to live _ money, which obviously we all need to live on. _ money, which obviously we all need to live on, but the whole structure of nursing, — to live on, but the whole structure of nursing, how we look after our nursing _ of nursing, how we look after our nursing staff and the conditions that we — nursing staff and the conditions that we work in, all of these things really— that we work in, all of these things really need — that we work in, all of these things really need to be reviewed. so, it isn't _ really need to be reviewed. so, it

isn'tjust— really need to be reviewed. so, it isn'tjust about the really need to be reviewed. so, it isn't just about the money. and vocation— isn't just about the money. and vocation will only take you so far, we all— vocation will only take you so far, we all do — vocation will only take you so far, we all do it— vocation will only take you so far, we all do it because we love the profession, but that isn't going to pay the _ profession, but that isn't going to pay the bills, that is not going to look after— pay the bills, that is not going to look after your mental health if you've — look after your mental health if you've been abused at work or you have _ you've been abused at work or you have caught — you've been abused at work or you have caught an illness from a patient — have caught an illness from a patient. so, it isn'tjust about the money, _ patient. so, it isn'tjust about the money, i— patient. so, it isn'tjust about the money, i totally agree with the last caller~ _ money, i totally agree with the last caller. :, . ., , , , .,, caller. how much abuse is there as ou no caller. how much abuse is there as you go about _ caller. how much abuse is there as you go about your— caller. how much abuse is there as you go about yourjob? _ caller. how much abuse is there as you go about yourjob? i _ caller. how much abuse is there as you go about yourjob? i think- caller. how much abuse is there as you go about yourjob? i think it's. you go about your “ob? i think it's endemic. you go about yourjob? i think it's endemic. unfortunately _ you go about yourjob? i think it's endemic. unfortunately i - you go about yourjob? i think it's endemic. unfortunately i don't. you go about yourjob? i think it's i endemic. unfortunately i don't think the british— endemic. unfortunately i don't think the british public really do value what _ the british public really do value what they have, and there is something about the nhf itself needs to be revamped because people take advantage of it, they don't look after— advantage of it, they don't look after their— advantage of it, they don't look after their own health and then they expect— after their own health and then they expect to _ after their own health and then they expect to come and be cured or looked — expect to come and be cured or looked after, and i think not valuing _ looked after, and i think not valuing the nurses comes with that as well~ _ valuing the nurses comes with that as well. don't value their own health— as well. don't value their own health and they don't value the nhs. isn't health and they don't value the nhs. isn't that _ health and they don't value the nhs. isn't that one of the wonderful,

magical things to be adored about the nhs, the fact that it is there for you even if it is, in inverted commas, your own fault, even if it is, in inverted commas, because of your lifestyle? it is there for everybody at the point of delivery, isn't that the essence?— everybody at the point of delivery, isn't that the essence? well, it was a nice thought _ isn't that the essence? well, it was a nice thought in _ isn't that the essence? well, it was a nice thought in 1948 _ isn't that the essence? well, it was a nice thought in 1948 when - isn't that the essence? well, it was a nice thought in 1948 when people j a nice thought in 1948 when people didn't— a nice thought in 1948 when people didn't have healthcare. it has obviously— didn't have healthcare. it has obviously done an awful lot for the quality— obviously done an awful lot for the quality of— obviously done an awful lot for the quality of people's help in the uk but honestly i think that that whole thing. _ but honestly i think that that whole thing. you — but honestly i think that that whole thing, you know, it really needs to be looked — thing, you know, it really needs to be looked at again, because it encourages people not to cake take care of— encourages people not to cake take care of themselves, because it's free at— care of themselves, because it's free at the — care of themselves, because it's free at the point of, you know, reguest~ — free at the point of, you know, reuuest. , , :, request. there is loads of associated _ request. there is loads of associated issues - request. there is loads of associated issues coming | request. there is loads of l associated issues coming in request. there is loads of - associated issues coming in here. i will speak to katharine and then i will speak to katharine and then i will be right with you. but there are loads of other issues coming into this debate which are so interesting. katharine da costa,

this is brilliant, lots of clauses, lots of subclauses, lots of points about structure, lots of points about structure, lots of points about what the nhs is for, lots of points about vocation or not vocation, where are we? the union announced it rejected the offer by 54% to 46%, pat cullen, head of the rcn, recommended that the deal was accepted, i'll be edging towards these strikes ending or...? toot—toot into the future? the these strikes ending or. . . ? toot-toot into the future? the rcn would say that _ toot-toot into the future? the rcn would say that unless _ toot-toot into the future? the rcn would say that unless they - toot-toot into the future? the rcn would say that unless they get - toot-toot into the future? the rcn would say that unless they get an i would say that unless they get an improved pay offer, and at the moment what is on the table is a 5% pay rise for this year and then a one—off payment to make up for the salaries last year, that is what is on offer in england and the rcn has said that if that is not improved

for nurses than do it intends to re—ballot its members for strike action for another six month mandate which would take us up to christmas but obviously it is down to those members to vote and decide what they want to do. but today's 28 hour strike, it is the third time that rcn members have gone on strike this year. it affects about half of nhs trusts in england, including mental health and community services. and the rcn has said it is going to be the rcn has said it is going to be the most intense so far. some hospital bosses had expressed concern about the impact on patient safety and after talks with the nhs over the weekend, the rcn has agreed to some national exemptions to provide some limited cover for areas such as major emergencies and intensive care, but even with that intensive care, but even with that in place, there is still there is concern with hospital bosses... silenceoz right outside thejohn radcliffe, so bear with me. our

listeners can — radcliffe, so bear with me. our listeners can hear, _ radcliffe, so bear with me. our listeners can hear, and our viewers can see, don't worry about that. 50. can see, don't worry about that. so, there is this — can see, don't worry about that. so, there is this concern that even with those agreements in place, that there is still going to be huge impact for some trusts and they are asking the public to use emergency departments wisely, they are expecting long delays in a&e, thousands of appointments have had to be cancelled to prioritise emergencies, and even when the strike ends at midnight tonight there is expected to be some sort of knock—on effect going into tomorrow and later in the week as things start to get back to normal, and we know over the six months of industrial action, know over the six months of industrialaction, by know over the six months of industrial action, by various different health unions, about half a million appointments and procedures have had to be cancelled and rebooked. and that adds to the pressure to try and tackle long nhs waiting lists, but the nurses say they didn't cause those backlogs, and that actually what is at the heart of the problem is a shortage of staffing, one in nine nursing

posts in england is vacant and that is why the rcn says they are going for the strike action to ask for a higher pay rise to boost recruitment and retention in the profession. find and retention in the profession. and the staff counsel, they are expected to accept the offer, they are meeting tomorrow and stephen barclay says it is bad form to pre—empt that, can you explain the politics of all of that to us?— that, can you explain the politics of all of that to us? yes, so, there are about — of all of that to us? yes, so, there are about 14 _ of all of that to us? yes, so, there are about 14 health _ of all of that to us? yes, so, there are about 14 health unions - of all of that to us? yes, so, there are about 14 health unions that. of all of that to us? yes, so, there i are about 14 health unions that make up are about 14 health unions that make up the nhs staff counsel, they are due to meet tomorrow with ministers and nhs leaders to discuss the pay offer for and nhs leaders to discuss the pay offerfor england. and it's and nhs leaders to discuss the pay offer for england. and its expected that the majority of those unions, we know that unison, gmb and unions representing physios and midwives, have backed the pay deal, and it is expected that the majority will agree to it, and if that is the case, ministers have said that they will implement it. unite and the rcn rejected it and as i said the rcn are saying that if there isn't an

improved offer, pat cullen, the general secretary, improved offer, pat cullen, the generalsecretary, has improved offer, pat cullen, the general secretary, has asked steve barclay to get background the table and talk with them otherwise she is intending to re—ballot members. and as you say the health secretary, steve barclay, has criticised this strike as being premature and disrespect for to the other health unions that are meeting tomorrow, he is optimistic that the deal will be backed. but who knows, this may not be the last of it and it certainly doesn't resolve the dispute with junior doctors in england. they are on a different contract, they are asking for a 35% pay rise, at the moment there are no formal talks with the government, there are no fresh strike dates in the diary so for now we watch and wait to see what happens next. {lilia for now we watch and wait to see what happens next.— for now we watch and wait to see what happens next. ok, and i mean, cancer nurses— what happens next. ok, and i mean, cancer nurses are _ what happens next. ok, and i mean, cancer nurses are on _ what happens next. ok, and i mean, cancer nurses are on strike _ what happens next. ok, and i mean, cancer nurses are on strike for- cancer nurses are on strike for the first time, it is worth pointing that out. you very much, katharine. we are joined

that out. you very much, katharine. we arejoined by nikola in carlton in nottingham. what would you like to say, and thank you? just in nottingham. what would you like to say, and thank you?— in nottingham. what would you like to say, and thank you? just that our situation, what _ to say, and thank you? just that our situation, what with _ to say, and thank you? just that our situation, what with normal- situation, what with normal weekends, strikes, easter and the upcoming bank holidays, i am slightly concerned with welfare. he was in intensive care forfour slightly concerned with welfare. he was in intensive care for four days and came out yesterday and is now thankfully back on a normal ward. i am not saying i don't support the nurses because i don't understand enough about it, but obviously in our boat, that is mostly what we are concentrating on, how it directly affects us. �* concentrating on, how it directly affects us-_ concentrating on, how it directly affects us. �* , , affects us. but everything is ok, our affects us. but everything is ok, your partner. — affects us. but everything is ok, your partner. he _ affects us. but everything is ok, your partner, he is _ affects us. but everything is ok, your partner, he is on _ affects us. but everything is ok, your partner, he is on the - affects us. but everything is ok, your partner, he is on the road, | your partner, he is on the road, or...? on the road to recovery? i or...? on the road to recovery? i believe so, i'm not really sure, i will probably have to think about it in the future. when he went in he had an infected foot and it went from possibly losing a toe to below knee amputation to above knee amputation, and then nearly lost his life. i am not sure how much of the

strikes and actions have had an effect on that, i am not actually suggesting that it was, you know, linked with that because obviously he was very poorly when he went in. if this were to happen now, you would be severely concerned? filth. would be severely concerned? oh, eah. i would be severely concerned? oh, yeah- i mean _ would be severely concerned? oh, yeah. i mean we _ would be severely concerned? oi yeah. i mean we did would be severely concerned? “,i yeah. i mean we did not would be severely concerned? oi, yeah. i mean we did not know what was ahead of us that night we were sat in the a&e for eight hours. we probablyjust thought we sat in the a&e for eight hours. we probably just thought we would be out in a few hours or a day or two. so, all this action is really rather worrying. mi so, all this action is really rather wor inc. : :, . , so, all this action is really rather wor inc. : :,. , worrying. ali in colchester, good morninu , worrying. ali in colchester, good morning, ali. — worrying. ali in colchester, good morning, ali, people _ worrying. ali in colchester, good morning, ali, people like - worrying. ali in colchester, good| morning, ali, people like nikola, extremely worried at the moment, that was just bank holiday weekend, you know, some would say less of a service, some would argue it is a threadbare service, what about now? what would you say to people like nikola?

good morning, nicky. i completely understand their concerns and it really _ understand their concerns and it really is — understand their concerns and it really is worrying times and in no way whatsoever do we want this for our patients, but i don't think the public— our patients, but i don't think the public realise what our trust in essex — public realise what our trust in essex is — public realise what our trust in essex is going through. and it is probably— essex is going through. and it is probably the same across the whole of the _ probably the same across the whole of the uk _ probably the same across the whole of the uk. the direction this government has taken, for example, of scrapping tuition fees, and there for not _ of scrapping tuition fees, and there for not encouraging people in this country— for not encouraging people in this country to— for not encouraging people in this country to take up nursing posts, it'sjust _ country to take up nursing posts, it'sjust diabolical. itjust makes you think. — it'sjust diabolical. itjust makes you think, what are they trying to achieve? — you think, what are they trying to achieve? i— you think, what are they trying to achieve? i mean, i have no qualms with hiring — achieve? i mean, i have no qualms with hiring people from abroad, because — with hiring people from abroad, because without our international colleagues, our nhs wouldn't survive — colleagues, our nhs wouldn't survive. but this takes time and effort _ survive. but this takes time and effort to— survive. but this takes time and effort to train people to british standards in the uk. by scrapping tuition— standards in the uk. by scrapping tuition fees, our students are inundated with significant debts,

and as— inundated with significant debts, and as a — inundated with significant debts, and as a result, the pay at the end is really— and as a result, the pay at the end is really poor, in this day and age, with the _ is really poor, in this day and age, with the current financial crisis for many— with the current financial crisis for many average workers. i also have _ for many average workers. i also have to — for many average workers. i also have to point out in terms of pay, our trust — have to point out in terms of pay, our trust has _ have to point out in terms of pay, our trust has a significant amount of agency— our trust has a significant amount of agency workers, and we do the same _ of agency workers, and we do the same job— of agency workers, and we do the same job as — of agency workers, and we do the same job as agency workers, but are paid a _ same job as agency workers, but are paid a far— same job as agency workers, but are paid a faramount, same job as agency workers, but are paid a far amount, compare to normal nhs workers. and it makes us think, by not _ nhs workers. and it makes us think, by not having the calibre of people within— by not having the calibre of people within the — by not having the calibre of people within the nhs... why by not having the calibre of people within the nhs...— by not having the calibre of people within the nhs. .. why is that, ali? we hear that _ within the nhs. .. why is that, ali? we hear that a _ within the nhs. .. why is that, ali? we hear that a lot, _ within the nhs. .. why is that, ali? we hear that a lot, why _ within the nhs. .. why is that, ali? we hear that a lot, why is - within the nhs. .. why is that, ali? we hear that a lot, why is there . we hear that a lot, why is there that discrepancy?— that discrepancy? with agency workers being _ that discrepancy? with agency workers being paid _ that discrepancy? with agency workers being paid far- that discrepancy? with agency workers being paid far more i that discrepancy? with agency - workers being paid far more than. . . ? workers being paid far more than...? yes _ workers being paid far more than. . . ?

yes. , :, :, , ., , ., yes. there is not enough staff. i am an anaesthetic _ yes. there is not enough staff. i am an anaesthetic practitioner. - yes. there is not enough staff. i am an anaesthetic practitioner. there i an anaesthetic practitioner. there is not _ an anaesthetic practitioner. there is not enough staff officer so it is 'ust is not enough staff officer so it is just at— is not enough staff officer so it is just at a — is not enough staff officer so it is just at a premium? you won't believe how much— just at a premium? you won't believe how much they earn compared to normal— how much they earn compared to normal nhs workers. and this does come _ normal nhs workers. and this does come across, because it comes at a cost: _ come across, because it comes at a cost, because any workers nhs workers — cost, because any workers nhs workers they know the trust, they have _ workers they know the trust, they have been— workers they know the trust, they have been in the trust for a long time, _ have been in the trust for a long time, you — have been in the trust for a long time, you have got someone who comes from another _ time, you have got someone who comes from another district with a don't know— from another district with a don't know the — from another district with a don't know the anaesthetic machine, they don't _ know the anaesthetic machine, they don't know— know the anaesthetic machine, they don't know what drugs we use, they don't _ don't know what drugs we use, they don't know— don't know what drugs we use, they don't know the protocol within our trust _ don't know the protocol within our trust of— don't know the protocol within our trust of how we provide care to that particular— trust of how we provide care to that particular patient. and it's really worrying. — particular patient. and it's really worrying, what direction this is going — worrying, what direction this is going with our hospital. and i can -ive going with our hospital. and i can give you — going with our hospital. and i can give you another example, we have on-call_ give you another example, we have on—call shifts between 8pm and 8am, you know— on—call shifts between 8pm and 8am, you know how much we get for being on standby? — you know how much we get for being on standby? guess. tell you know how much we get for being on standby? guess.— on standby? guess. tell me, ali. i don't know- _

on standby? guess. tell me, ali. i don't know. £15, _ on standby? guess. tell me, ali. i don't know. £15, just _ on standby? guess. tell me, ali. i don't know. £15, just to _ on standby? guess. tell me, ali. i don't know. £15, just to be - on standby? guess. tell me, ali. i don't know. £15, just to be on - don't know. £15, 'ust to be on standby. h don't know. £15, 'ust to be on standby. £15. — don't know. £15, just to be on standby. £15. so, _ don't know. £15, just to be on standby. £15. so, you - don't know. £15, just to be on standby. £15. so, you know, i don't know. £15, just to be on i standby. £15. so, you know, you don't know. £15, just to be on - standby. £15. so, you know, you may be called _ standby. £15. so, you know, you may be called in _ standby. £15. so, you know, you may be called in at — standby. £15. so, you know, you may be called in at four o'clock in the morning. — be called in at four o'clock in the morning, oh, there is an emergency, we need _ morning, oh, there is an emergency, we need to— morning, oh, there is an emergency, we need to open up another theatre or we _ we need to open up another theatre or we need — we need to open up another theatre or we need to transfer a patient from _ or we need to transfer a patient from our— or we need to transfer a patient from our hospital to, let's say, cambridge, it is £15 to be on standby _ cambridge, it is £15 to be on standby. however, if they pay agency, — standby. however, if they pay agency, to be on standby is about £70 or— agency, to be on standby is about £70 or £80, there is a huge discrepancy with the direction of where _ discrepancy with the direction of where the nhs is going, and i don't understand — where the nhs is going, and i don't understand why they seem to pennypinching the nhs but they are happy— pennypinching the nhs but they are happy to— pennypinching the nhs but they are happy to pay agency, locum, a significant _ happy to pay agency, locum, a significant rate. fire happy to pay agency, locum, a significant rate.— significant rate. are you in for the lona significant rate. are you in for the long haul? _ significant rate. are you in for the long haul? i've — significant rate. are you in for the long haul? i've been _ significant rate. are you in for the long haul? i've been in _ significant rate. are you in for the long haul? i've been in the - significant rate. are you in for the long haul? i've been in the nhs l significant rate. are you in for the i long haul? i've been in the nhs for nearly eight — long haul? i've been in the nhs for nearly eight years _ long haul? i've been in the nhs for nearly eight years now, _ long haul? i've been in the nhs for nearly eight years now, i _ long haul? i've been in the nhs for nearly eight years now, i mean, . long haul? i've been in the nhs for nearly eight years now, i mean, i l nearly eight years now, i mean, i truly— nearly eight years now, i mean, i truly enjoy— nearly eight years now, i mean, i truly enjoy myjob, it is my day off today, _ truly enjoy myjob, it is my day off today, i_ truly enjoy myjob, it is my day off today, i am — truly enjoy myjob, it is my day off today, i am tired, i truly enjoy myjob, it is my day off today, lam tired, i had truly enjoy myjob, it is my day off today, i am tired, i had a truly enjoy myjob, it is my day off today, lam tired, i had a busy truly enjoy myjob, it is my day off today, i am tired, i had a busy day yesterday. — today, i am tired, i had a busy day yesterday, but i really enjoy myjob and i_ yesterday, but i really enjoy myjob and i love _ yesterday, but i really enjoy myjob and i love caring for my patients.

and i_ and i love caring for my patients. and i will— and i love caring for my patients. and i will stick with the nhs, but, you know. — and i will stick with the nhs, but, you know, for how long, though? the way things— you know, for how long, though? the way things are going? you know? ermm _ way things are going? you know? ermm but — way things are going? you know? ermm but i — way things are going? you know? erm... but i really hope the government do take on board the viewpoints of people in this country _ viewpoints of people in this country. with pay, with conditions... and we need to get back— conditions... and we need to get back the — conditions... and we need to get back the nhs bursary for student nurses, _ back the nhs bursary for student nurses, because hiring people from abroad _ nurses, because hiring people from abroad can — nurses, because hiring people from abroad can take time to train people up abroad can take time to train people up to— abroad can take time to train people up to the _ abroad can take time to train people up to the standards within the uk. it is up to the standards within the uk. it is not _ up to the standards within the uk. it is not a — up to the standards within the uk. it is not a quick fix getting people from _ it is not a quick fix getting people from abroad, it doesn't work like that, _ from abroad, it doesn't work like that, we — from abroad, it doesn't work like that, we should not look at quantity, _ that, we should not look at quantity, we should be looking at quality _ quantity, we should be looking at auali . : :, quantity, we should be looking at auali .: :, quantity, we should be looking at tuali .“ ., , quality. ali, i am so pleased you not in quality. ali, i am so pleased you got in touch. _ quality. ali, i am so pleased you got in touch, likewise _ quality. ali, i am so pleased you| got in touch, likewise everybody, some great contributions this morning. you raised some really

important issues, ali, thank you so much. texts... my father has, yesterday, my father has yesterday been put on end—of—life, it has been a complete nightmare. one nurse to cover 20 beds. the nurses knew what the pay was like when they went into the pay was like when they went into the profession... all care and compassion has gone out of the system... iam compassion has gone out of the system... i am an engineer and have not had a pay rise for over eight years but i am grateful to have a job, stop this nonsense now, people are suffering. that is from melinda. and this er... i am a trained nurse in cornwall and in answer to the nous who says there are no poor nurses, i struggled last winter with no heating in my house because i could not afford the electric, my car is 20 years old, it is a banger falling apart and for the last week in april before payday i didn't have any food in the house and relied on doughnuts being brought in by reps as my only food. thank you. 08085

909693. 85058. what about swearing an oath of allegiance? it is something you have been invited to do... what do you think about that? it has caused some shouting on both sides on social media, which i was monitoring, looking out over the weekend. you have been cordially invited to join a chorus of allegiance. a karaoke coronation, kind of. you can swear along. if you all this over the weekend about all this but we love an active community

participation and we have to reiterate this is not compulsory. get in touch. will you be going along with this? will you be swearing allegiance? get in touch. the health secretary has called the nursing strike in england premature, saying it takes place a day before a meeting to discuss a new pay deal. the royal college of nursing says today's walker is its biggest ever unlikely to affect some critical services like intensive care for the first time, but some staff will be allowed off the picket line to help in emergencies. the united nations

is one humanitarian situation in sudan is reaching breaking point, thousands of people attempting to flee the conflict and an evacuation flight for a british nationals is expected to lead from port sudan on the red sea in less than an hour's time. russia has launched a series of artillery strikes at ukraine including the capital kyiv. the ukrainian military assets most of the rockets fired were shut down. more than 200,000 packets of wild flower seeds are to be sent to primary schools across the uk as part of the king was my coronation celebrations. yes, iam yes, i am very interested to know what you think about this. the king will be anointed with holy oil and

from a holy tree. behind a holy screen, holy moly say some. wholly appropriate and rather wonderful say others. what do you see? a big supernatural, religious element in the ceremony. he is a man of faith, faith of course is embedded in our constitution, the very concept of monarchy, and so the archbishop, the royal blood princes, i read, all of them? senior peers will line up to pay homage to the moderate, placing their hands between the king's pay homage to the moderate, placing their hands between the kings and swearing allegiance, touching the crown and kissing the king's right hand. holly and fell at the front of the cave. just a joke. —— holly and phil. and the oil, the oath everyone can swear along to or are being

asked to swear along too. you could have done anyway but it is an official, cordial invitation if, to take part in the sacraments. mysticism, majesty, history, destiny... put your name and where you're from, get in touch. will you be swearing allegiance? rachel in bangor. good morning. debra and alex in kidderminster. i know alex is an raf cadet at 347 squadron in dudley who is serving, military of course, serving erstwhile queen and country, now king and country. she was the boss, he is the boss, that is very important to people who serve in the military, who swear north of allegiance. christine ross, expert, hello. :,

allegiance. christine ross, expert, hello-- what _ allegiance. christine ross, expert, hello.- what is _ allegiance. christine ross, expert, hello.- what is this - allegiance. christine ross, expert, hello.- what is this all - hello. hello. what is this all about? well, _ hello. hello. what is this all about? well, i— hello. hello. what is this all about? well, ithink- hello. hello. what is this all about? well, i think what i hello. hello. what is this all| about? well, i think what we hello. hello. what is this all - about? well, i think what we are seeinu about? well, i think what we are seeing over— about? well, i think what we are seeing over the _ about? well, i think what we are seeing over the last _ about? well, i think what we are seeing over the last few - about? well, i think what we are seeing over the last few months| about? well, i think what we are i seeing over the last few months is really the monarchy fitting into the modern world, and what we've been presented with is the official liturgy from lambeth palace, the archbishop of canterbury's working office, if you will, and the people are responding to it. so many of these rituals are ancient, medieval, and i think people are just finding where does this fit into thousand and 23? :, , :, :, :, and 23? how is it going to work? will be up _ and 23? how is it going to work? will be up there _ and 23? how is it going to work? will be up there on _ and 23? how is it going to work? will be up there on the _ and 23? how is it going to work? will be up there on the screen? l and 23? how is it going to work? i will be up there on the screen? the words? orwill you will be up there on the screen? the words? or will you be required to just read them in the newspaper or, you know, on facebook or wherever? i think it is going to be like one of those great singalong shows we watch where the words are at the bottom of the screen for us but i do expect it will be broadcast on the screen,

easy to reach, and its is entirely optional. is easy to reach, and its is entirely otional. , easy to reach, and its is entirely optional.- absolutely, - easy to reach, and its is entirely optional. is it? absolutely, has been really _ optional. is it? absolutely, has been really stressed _ optional. is it? absolutely, has been really stressed by - optional. is it? absolutely, has been really stressed by the - optional. is it? absolutely, has been really stressed by the church and palace the last few days that the sort of swearing allegiance to the sort of swearing allegiance to the king is completely optional. have they said that? have they actually said this is entirely optional?— actually said this is entirely otional? . , ., , ., ., optional? there was a statement that came out saying. _ optional? there was a statement that came out saying, they _ optional? there was a statement that came out saying, they are _ optional? there was a statement that came out saying, they are invited - optional? there was a statement that came out saying, they are invited to i came out saying, they are invited to do it but by no means is it an obligation or an expectation. this whole homage to the people is an opportunity to bring the people into the ceremony, which has been a consistent theme in this coronation, making it about the people. lourdes and earls who have not been invited and earls who have not been invited and instead we are seeing representatives from charities and children who have raised money for important causes, we are seeing the people in this coronation and this is another in that, throughout that theme. ~ ., :, theme. when he anointed with the hol oil theme. when he anointed with the holy oil from _ theme. when he anointed with the holy oil from the _ theme. when he anointed with the holy oil from the holy _ theme. when he anointed with the holy oil from the holy tree, - theme. when he anointed with the holy oil from the holy tree, he - theme. when he anointed with the holy oil from the holy tree, he will| holy oil from the holy tree, he will be shielded by this partition which

has all sorts of symbolic illustrations on it, and embroidery designs are celebrating the commonwealth and other screens as well, will be in on three sides. people are saying he might be the road, any good way, that he has to take some of his clothes off to be properly anointed. why is it behind a screen? , , properly anointed. why is it behind ascreen? , , a screen? this is really, the purpose _ a screen? this is really, the purpose of _ a screen? this is really, the purpose of the _ a screen? this is really, the purpose of the screen - a screen? this is really, the purpose of the screen is - a screen? this is really, thej purpose of the screen is the a screen? this is really, the - purpose of the screen is the sort of make it easier for broadcasting, because in the 1953 coronation queen elizabeth felt that the anointing was such a holy experience she did not want to be broadcast, wanted to be shielded from the people, even in the church. the anointing really is the church. the anointing really is the holiest most religious part of the holiest most religious part of the service, and if you look back to the service, and if you look back to the 1953 coronation, the only coronation televised, they are sort of holding these sheets on sticks and it looks a bit clunky and

cumbersome, whereas king charles ii! has had the screen commissioned, it's really beautiful, shows a great example of english folk art that we have not seen a lot of before and gives him some privacy during this moment, part of the ceremony, and interestingly, the queen, queen camilla does not get any sort of privacy, but behind the screen king charles will remove the ceremonial robes, based on what we know about queen elizabeth ii's dress, she wore very simple i think weight cotton dress so i imagine king charles will be in something very simple, white cotton, which will be different from his usual 3—piece suit. and then later in the ceremony he has bestowed new robes.- later in the ceremony he has bestowed new robes. edges quai redolent of— bestowed new robes. edges quai redolent of the _ bestowed new robes. edges quai redolent of the medieval - bestowed new robes. edges quai i redolent of the medieval peasantry, sacraments carried out behind the

screen which highlighted in their minds and was meant to highlight in their minds the power and mysticism of the event that they could not see something incredible was going on behind the screen. just a thought. he will remove his crimson robe, sitting king edward's chair, under a canopy of silk or a cloth of gold held by four knights of the garter and the archbishop will use the golden ego —shaped armpit that pours oilfrom its peak and the golden ego —shaped armpit that pours oil from its peak and the 12th century silver gilt anointing spin thatis century silver gilt anointing spin that is the most ancient treasure of the crown jewels, and then he will anointed king in the form of a cross, and having been sanctified, he puts on i think you refer to the sleeveless white garment, a roll of cloth of gold, the super tunic,

presented with a dual sword and gold... i could go on. i'm going on rather too much. rachel and banker, sarah and broughton astley, and our other callers. welcome to all of you. will you be swearing along? more than likely not, no. i cannot imagine me sitting in my house promising my alliance to the king or anything like that, no. now that we've talked about at this morning, quite possibly i could do it for the crack —— craic. a northern irish term. i crack -- craic. a northern irish term. ~ :, ., ,. , term. i know. it transcends the borders of _ term. i know. it transcends the borders of the _ term. i know. it transcends the borders of the emerald - term. i know. it transcends the borders of the emerald isle. i term. i know. it transcends the borders of the emerald isle. al borders of the emerald isle. a couple of sherries and saying why not? i'm going to do this. it could ve well not? i'm going to do this. it could very well happen. _ not? i'm going to do this. it could very well happen, i _ not? i'm going to do this. it could very well happen, i could - not? i'm going to do this. it could very well happen, i could do - not? i'm going to do this. it could very well happen, i could do it. not? i'm going to do this. it could very well happen, i could do it forj very well happen, i could do it for

a laugh, but do i have plans to do it? no, probably not. icannot imagine me sitting in my house watching it, promising that. there are some people _ watching it, promising that. there are some people in _ watching it, promising that. there are some people in your _ watching it, promising that. there are some people in your neck - watching it, promising that. there are some people in your neck of i watching it, promising that. there are some people in your neck of the woods that will be doing it with solemnity. woods that will be doing it with solemni . �* , woods that will be doing it with solemnity— woods that will be doing it with solemni . �* , _, woods that will be doing it with solemni . �* , , solemnity. i'm sure there could be that there will _ solemnity. i'm sure there could be that there will be. _ solemnity. i'm sure there could be that there will be. i _ solemnity. i'm sure there could be that there will be. i can't - solemnity. i'm sure there could be that there will be. i can't speak . that there will be. i can't speak for everyone — that there will be. i can't speak for everyone else _ that there will be. i can't speak for everyone else but _ that there will be. i can't speak| for everyone else but personally that there will be. i can't speak - for everyone else but personally for me, i more than likely might not the and if i did it would probablyjust be in the case ofjoining in for a bit of banter. its. be in the case of 'oining in for a bit of banter.— bit of banter. a bit of banter, a bit of banter. a bit of banter, a bit of banter. a bit of banter, a bit of craic. _ bit of banter. a bit of banter, a bit of craic. i _ bit of banter. a bit of banter, a bit of craic. i love _ bit of banter. a bit of banter, a bit of craic. i love that - bit of banter. a bit of banter, a bit of craic. i love that word. it | bit of craic. i love that word. it seems a bit like game of thrones or something. a, seems a bit like game of thrones or somethina. : :, : seems a bit like game of thrones or somethina. : :, . :, seems a bit like game of thrones or something-— something. a touch of game of thrones about _ something. a touch of game of thrones about it. _ something. a touch of game of thrones about it. talking - something. a touch of game of thrones about it. talking aboutj something. a touch of game of. thrones about it. talking about the thrones about it. talking about the throne and the silver anointing spin, the game of spoons. serra, will you be swearing an oath of allegiance?—

allegiance? definitely i will be swish to see _ allegiance? definitely i will be swish to see if _ allegiance? definitely i will be swish to see if an _ allegiance? definitely i will be swish to see if an oath - allegiance? definitely i will be swish to see if an oath of - swish to see if an oath of allegiance.— swish to see if an oath of allegiance. swish to see if an oath of alleaiance. ~ i , ~ allegiance. why so? sound like the kin: and a allegiance. why so? sound like the king and a royal— allegiance. why so? sound like the king and a royal family _ allegiance. why so? sound like the king and a royal family representsl king and a royal family represents of... :_ i king and a royal family represents of... :,: king and a royal family represents of... .. ,~ ,i ., king and a royal family represents of... :, , ., of... monarchy and history for great britain, i seriously _ of... monarchy and history for great britain, i seriously believe - of... monarchy and history for great britain, i seriously believe they - britain, i seriously believe they are the — britain, i seriously believe they are the backbone of the country and part of _ are the backbone of the country and part of if— are the backbone of the country and part of. if you live in this country and supporting the royal family i think— and supporting the royal family i think is— and supporting the royal family i think is one of those things that you must— think is one of those things that you must see to day because they check— you must see to day because they check and — you must see to day because they check and hate so much money for the country, _ check and hate so much money for the country. do _ check and hate so much money for the country. do so — check and hate so much money for the country, do so much for charity and raise _ country, do so much for charity and raise millions for charity, they make — raise millions for charity, they make you _ raise millions for charity, they make you aware of what is going on. let make you aware of what is going on. let me _ make you aware of what is going on. let me wend — make you aware of what is going on. let me wend you back. winding you back. if you live in this country, i think supporting the monarchy is one of the things you must do? it not must do, of the things you must do? it not must do. we _ of the things you must do? it not must do, we are a democratic

country — must do, we are a democratic country. nobody else has a royal family— country. nobody else has a royal family like great britain and i do think— family like great britain and i do think that — family like great britain and i do think that the royal family bring in a loss— think that the royal family bring in a loss of— think that the royal family bring in a loss of revenue for the country and they— a loss of revenue for the country and they do an enormous amount of goods— and they do an enormous amount of goods and _ and they do an enormous amount of goods and raise so much money for charity— goods and raise so much money for charity as _ goods and raise so much money for charity as well, and raise awareness of different — charity as well, and raise awareness of different people, different things— of different people, different things going on across the country, look at _ things going on across the country, look at the — things going on across the country, look at the princes trust, has helped — look at the princes trust, has helped a _ look at the princes trust, has helped a million young people set up their own _ helped a million young people set up their own businesses. how many other people _ their own businesses. how many other people can _ their own businesses. how many other people can say i set up a million young _ people can say i set up a million young businesses if the country? don't _ young businesses if the country? don't go — young businesses if the country? don't go anywhere, next collar. | don't go anywhere, next collar. i have been sponsored by the princes trust myself — have been sponsored by the princes trust myself and _ have been sponsored by the princes trust myself and i— have been sponsored by the princes trust myself and i can— have been sponsored by the princes trust myself and i can absolutely. trust myself and i can absolutely see the — trust myself and i can absolutely see the benefit, _ trust myself and i can absolutely see the benefit, however- trust myself and i can absolutely see the benefit, however i- trust myself and i can absolutely see the benefit, however i don't|

see the benefit, however i don't think— see the benefit, however i don't think the — see the benefit, however i don't think the symbolism _ see the benefit, however i don't think the symbolism behind - see the benefit, however i don't think the symbolism behind the| think the symbolism behind the pageantry— think the symbolism behind the pageantry is _ think the symbolism behind the pageantry is something - think the symbolism behind the pageantry is something that. think the symbolism behind the pageantry is something that wej think the symbolism behind the - pageantry is something that we are aware _ pageantry is something that we are aware of. _ pageantry is something that we are aware of. the — pageantry is something that we are aware of, the work— pageantry is something that we are aware of, the work the _ pageantry is something that we are aware of, the work the crown - pageantry is something that we are aware of, the work the crown has. aware of, the work the crown has done _ aware of, the work the crown has done i_ aware of, the work the crown has done i agree _ aware of, the work the crown has done i agree with _ aware of, the work the crown has done i agree with the _ aware of, the work the crown has done i agree with the last- aware of, the work the crown has done i agree with the last calleri done i agree with the last caller there _ done i agree with the last caller there is— done i agree with the last caller there is a — done i agree with the last caller there is a law _ done i agree with the last caller there is a law that _ done i agree with the last caller there is a law that has - done i agree with the last caller there is a law that has not- done i agree with the last caller there is a law that has not beenj there is a law that has not been communicated _ there is a law that has not been communicated to— there is a law that has not been communicated to a _ there is a law that has not been communicated to a way- there is a law that has not been communicated to a way that - there is a law that has not been- communicated to a way that resonates with the _ communicated to a way that resonates with the youth — communicated to a way that resonates with the youth -- _ communicated to a way that resonates with the youth -- a _ communicated to a way that resonates with the youth —— a lot. _ communicated to a way that resonates with the youth —— a lot. maybe - communicated to a way that resonates with the youth —— a lot. maybe they. with the youth —— a lot. maybe they only see _ with the youth —— a lot. maybe they only see the — with the youth —— a lot. maybe they only see the front _ with the youth —— a lot. maybe they only see the front page _ with the youth —— a lot. maybe they only see the front page and - with the youth —— a lot. maybe they only see the front page and the - only see the front page and the promise — only see the front page and the promise and _ only see the front page and the promise and expectation - only see the front page and the promise and expectation of- only see the front page and the - promise and expectation of passports afforded _ promise and expectation of passports afforded security— promise and expectation of passports afforded security wherever— promise and expectation of passports afforded security wherever we - afforded security wherever we travel — afforded security wherever we travel be _ afforded security wherever we travel. be this _ afforded security wherever we travel. be this we _ afforded security wherever we travel. be this we are - afforded security wherever we i travel. be this we are expected afforded security wherever we - travel. be this we are expected to si-n travel. be this we are expected to sign or— travel. be this we are expected to sign or swear _ travel. be this we are expected to sign or swear allegiance, - travel. be this we are expected to sign or swear allegiance, what - travel. be this we are expected to sign or swear allegiance, what is. sign or swear allegiance, what is being _ sign or swear allegiance, what is being swarmed _ sign or swear allegiance, what is being swarmed back— sign or swear allegiance, what is being swarmed back to - sign or swear allegiance, what is being swarmed back to us- sign or swear allegiance, what is being swarmed back to us and i sign or swear allegiance, what is- being swarmed back to us and how's that been— being swarmed back to us and how's that been communicated? _ being swarmed back to us and how's that been communicated? you- being swarmed back to us and how's that been communicated? you might wish to explain _ that been communicated? you might wish to explain why _ that been communicated? you might wish to explain why allegiance - that been communicated? you might wish to explain why allegiance is - wish to explain why allegiance is very important to you. deborah, alex. on you go.— very important to you. deborah, alex. on you go.

serving king and country, that your thing? serving king and country, that your thin ? , , .., thing? yes, it is. even in the cadet forces as part _ thing? yes, it is. even in the cadet forces as part of _ thing? yes, it is. even in the cadet forces as part of our _ thing? yes, it is. even in the cadet forces as part of our military - thing? yes, it is. even in the cadet forces as part of our military ethos| forces as part of our military ethos and the _ forces as part of our military ethos and the king is our commander—in—chief so it's an absolute — commander—in—chief so it's an absolute honour and privilege to serve _ absolute honour and privilege to serve as— absolute honour and privilege to serve as part of his military, in the cadet — serve as part of his military, in the cadet forces, and the ethos and spirit _ the cadet forces, and the ethos and spirit and _ the cadet forces, and the ethos and spirit and pride in who you are still— spirit and pride in who you are still is — spirit and pride in who you are still is there and it's a really big part of— still is there and it's a really big part of who you are and goes for everyone — part of who you are and goes for everyone and all of the princess of military, _ everyone and all of the princess of military, with our commander—in—chief, not an important part. commander-in-chief, not an important art. ,., , commander-in-chief, not an important art, , :, commander-in-chief, not an important part. scouts and guides to it, swear an oath of allegiance. _ part. scouts and guides to it, swear an oath of allegiance. have - part. scouts and guides to it, swear an oath of allegiance. have you - part. scouts and guides to it, swear. an oath of allegiance. have you done it? do you have to go through a formal process? i've spoken to lots of people in the military for him

that's very important. i of people in the military for him that's very important.— of people in the military for him that's very important. i don't think it's necessarily _ that's very important. i don't think it's necessarily a _ that's very important. i don't think it's necessarily a formal _ that's very important. i don't think it's necessarily a formal process, i it's necessarily a formal process, as such, — it's necessarily a formal process, as such, but _ it's necessarily a formal process, as such, but definitely everybody will be _ as such, but definitely everybody will be doing it, yeah.— will be doing it, yeah. yeah, deborah, — will be doing it, yeah. yeah, deborah, important? - will be doing it, yeah. yeah, deborah, important? will. will be doing it, yeah. yeah, i deborah, important? will you will be doing it, yeah. yeah, - deborah, important? will you be doing on the day? deborah, important? will you be doing on the day?— deborah, important? will you be doing on the day? absolutely, why not. it is doing on the day? absolutely, why not- it is our— doing on the day? absolutely, why not. it is our country, _ doing on the day? absolutely, why not. it is our country, something i doing on the day? absolutely, why. not. it is our country, something we need to be proud of, other countries swear allegiance, why shouldn't we? to the flag, the big thing in america. to the flag, the big thing in america-— to the flag, the big thing in america. , ~ 3 america. exactly. ithink it's time we saw tips— america. exactly. ithink it's time we saw tips to — america. exactly. i think it's time we saw tips to tap _ america. exactly. i think it's time we saw tips to tap and _ america. exactly. i think it's time we saw tips to tap and were - america. exactly. i think it's time| we saw tips to tap and were proud america. exactly. i think it's time . we saw tips to tap and were proud of who we are in the country we have and maybe this is a chance for people to do that. do and maybe this is a chance for people to do that.— people to do that. do you see continuity, — people to do that. do you see continuity, history, _ people to do that. do you see i continuity, history, spirituality? people to do that. do you see . continuity, history, spirituality? i understand history, don't want to repeat— understand history, don't want to repeat history. _ understand history, don't want to repeat history, and _ understand history, don't want to repeat history, and previous- repeat history, and previous coronations, _ repeat history, and previous coronations, things - repeat history, and previous coronations, things have - repeat history, and previous- coronations, things have changed dramatically—

coronations, things have changed dramatically since _ coronations, things have changed dramatically since then. - coronations, things have changed dramatically since then. we - coronations, things have changed dramatically since then. we are i dramatically since then. we are immoral— dramatically since then. we are immoral _ dramatically since then. we are immoral to— dramatically since then. we are immoral ——... to expect- dramatically since then. we are . immoral ——... to expect everyone dramatically since then. we are - immoral ——... to expect everyone to offer— immoral ——... to expect everyone to offer a _ immoral ——... to expect everyone to offer a pledge — immoral ——... to expect everyone to offer a pledge of— immoral ——... to expect everyone to offer a pledge of allegiance - immoral ——... to expect everyone to offer a pledge of allegiance is - immoral ——... to expect everyone to offer a pledge of allegiance is a - offer a pledge of allegiance is a hi-h offer a pledge of allegiance is a high expectation _ offer a pledge of allegiance is a high expectation because - offer a pledge of allegiance is a high expectation because the i offer a pledge of allegiance is a - high expectation because the crown does not _ high expectation because the crown does not relate _ high expectation because the crown does not relate or— high expectation because the crown does not relate or sympathise - high expectation because the crown does not relate or sympathise or. does not relate or sympathise or really— does not relate or sympathise or really speaks _ does not relate or sympathise or really speaks to _ does not relate or sympathise or really speaks to everyone - does not relate or sympathise or really speaks to everyone within| does not relate or sympathise or. really speaks to everyone within the country, _ really speaks to everyone within the country, it _ really speaks to everyone within the country, it seems _ really speaks to everyone within the country, it seems to _ really speaks to everyone within the country, it seems to be _ really speaks to everyone within the country, it seems to be very- country, it seems to be very antiquated, _ country, it seems to be very antiquated, a _ country, it seems to be very antiquated, a position- country, it seems to be very antiquated, a position that i country, it seems to be very- antiquated, a position that does not trickle _ antiquated, a position that does not trickle down — antiquated, a position that does not trickle down to— antiquated, a position that does not trickle down to the _ antiquated, a position that does not trickle down to the common - antiquated, a position that does not trickle down to the common man . antiquated, a position that does not| trickle down to the common man any more _ trickle down to the common man any more i_ trickle down to the common man any more ithihk— trickle down to the common man any more. i think that _ trickle down to the common man any more. i think that is— trickle down to the common man any more. i think that is the _ trickle down to the common man any more. i think that is the biggest- more. i think that is the biggest concern — more. i think that is the biggest concern how— more. i think that is the biggest concern. how can _ more. i think that is the biggest concern. how can we _ more. i think that is the biggest concern. how can we expect - more. i think that is the biggest concern. how can we expect a i concern. how can we expect a religion — concern. how can we expect a religion is — concern. how can we expect a religion is to— concern. how can we expect a religion is to be _ concern. how can we expect a religion is to be pledged - concern. how can we expect a. religion is to be pledged before concern. how can we expect a - religion is to be pledged before we have had _ religion is to be pledged before we have had any— religion is to be pledged before we have had any great _ religion is to be pledged before we have had any great statements? i religion is to be pledged before we| have had any great statements? of what we _ have had any great statements? of what we can — have had any great statements? of what we can from _ have had any great statements? of what we can from the _ have had any great statements? of what we can from the king? - have had any great statements? of what we can from the king? and . have had any great statements? of. what we can from the king? and what we have _ what we can from the king? and what we have been— what we can from the king? and what we have been backing _ what we can from the king? and what we have been backing in— what we can from the king? and what we have been backing in the - what we can from the king? and what we have been backing in the few- we have been backing in the few weeks _ we have been backing in the few weeks reading _ we have been backing in the few weeks reading up— we have been backing in the few weeks reading up to _ we have been backing in the few weeks reading up to this - we have been backing in the few weeks reading up to this is - we have been backing in the few. weeks reading up to this is anything for us _ weeks reading up to this is anything for us to— weeks reading up to this is anything for us to relate _ weeks reading up to this is anything for us to relate quite _ weeks reading up to this is anything for us to relate quite broadly- weeks reading up to this is anything for us to relate quite broadly —— - for us to relate quite broadly —— we've _ for us to relate quite broadly —— we've been— for us to relate quite broadly —— we've been lacking. _ for us to relate quite broadly —— we've been lacking. not- for us to relate quite broadly ——j we've been lacking. not enough information— we've been lacking. not enough information to _ we've been lacking. not enough information to see _ we've been lacking. not enough information to see everyone - we've been lacking. not enough information to see everyone in. we've been lacking. not enough. information to see everyone in this country— information to see everyone in this country has — information to see everyone in this country has a — information to see everyone in this country has a reason _ information to see everyone in this country has a reason to _ information to see everyone in this country has a reason to want - information to see everyone in this country has a reason to want to - country has a reason to want to pledge allegiance _ country has a reason to want to pledge allegiance and - country has a reason to want to pledge allegiance and be - country has a reason to want to pledge allegiance and be a - country has a reason to want to pledge allegiance and be a partj country has a reason to want to i pledge allegiance and be a part of this huge — pledge allegiance and be a part of this huge event— pledge allegiance and be a part of this huge event and _

pledge allegiance and be a part of this huge event and shift- pledge allegiance and be a part of this huge event and shift in- pledge allegiance and be a part of this huge event and shift in our. this huge event and shift in our history — this huge event and shift in our history. unfortunately- this huge event and shift in our history. unfortunately the - this huge event and shift in our history. unfortunately the lack| this huge event and shift in our. history. unfortunately the lack of communication— history. unfortunately the lack of communication in— history. unfortunately the lack of communication in relate - history. unfortunately the lack of| communication in relate ability... you can— communication in relate ability... you can always _ communication in relate ability... you can always watch _ communication in relate ability... you can always watch netflix, - communication in relate ability... you can always watch netflix, is i communication in relate ability... i you can always watch netflix, is not compulsory to watch, but a big event. are you religious? i compulsory to watch, but a big event. are you religious? i am, yes. do ou event. are you religious? i am, yes. do you applaud _ event. are you religious? i am, yes. do you applaud the _ event. are you religious? i am, yes. do you applaud the fact _ event. are you religious? i am, yes. do you applaud the fact that - do you applaud the fact that religion is at the heart of the ceremony?— religion is at the heart of the ceremon ? �* :, , ., , ceremony? i'm not sure if that comes across anyway — ceremony? i'm not sure if that comes across anyway for _ ceremony? i'm not sure if that comes across anyway for most _ ceremony? i'm not sure if that comes across anyway for most people, - ceremony? i'm not sure if that comes across anyway for most people, it. across anyway for most people, it seems _ across anyway for most people, it seems to— across anyway for most people, it seems to be — across anyway for most people, it seems to be pomp _ across anyway for most people, it seems to be pomp and _ across anyway for most people, it| seems to be pomp and pageantry, across anyway for most people, it - seems to be pomp and pageantry, does not seem _ seems to be pomp and pageantry, does not seem to _ seems to be pomp and pageantry, does not seem to be — seems to be pomp and pageantry, does not seem to be symbolism _ seems to be pomp and pageantry, does not seem to be symbolism and - seems to be pomp and pageantry, does| not seem to be symbolism and meaning behind _ not seem to be symbolism and meaning behind everything — not seem to be symbolism and meaning behind everything that _ not seem to be symbolism and meaning behind everything that happens. - not seem to be symbolism and meaning behind everything that happens. it - behind everything that happens. it is not _ behind everything that happens. it is not understood _ behind everything that happens. it is not understood in _ behind everything that happens. it is not understood in the _ behind everything that happens. it is not understood in the way - behind everything that happens. it is not understood in the way it - behind everything that happens. itj is not understood in the way it was previously — is not understood in the way it was previously and _ is not understood in the way it was previously and that _ is not understood in the way it was previously and that is _ is not understood in the way it was previously and that is the - is not understood in the way it was previously and that is the problem| previously and that is the problem with the _ previously and that is the problem with the crown _ previously and that is the problem with the crown today, _ previously and that is the problem with the crown today, it _ previously and that is the problem with the crown today, it is - previously and that is the problem with the crown today, it is not - with the crown today, it is not relatable, _ with the crown today, it is not relatable, not _ with the crown today, it is not relatable, not understood - with the crown today, it is not relatable, not understood by. with the crown today, it is not - relatable, not understood by people. but there _ relatable, not understood by people. but there is — relatable, not understood by people. but there is this _ relatable, not understood by people. but there is this massive _ relatable, not understood by people. but there is this massive sacred - but there is this massive sacred element to this, isn't there? serra, are you still with us? —— sarah. do you note off by heart? state

are you still with us? -- sarah. do you note off by heart?— are you still with us? -- sarah. do. you note off by heart?_ do you note off by heart? we are... do ou want you note off by heart? we are... do you want to — you note off by heart? we are... do you want to have _ you note off by heart? we are... do you want to have a _ you note off by heart? we are... do you want to have a rehearsal? - you note off by heart? we are... do you want to have a rehearsal? i'lli you want to have a rehearsal? i'll do it bit by bit. i swear that i will pay true allegiance to your majesty... i will pay true allegiance to your majesty- - -_ will pay true allegiance to your ma'es , . :, majesty... i swear that i will pay the true allegiance _ majesty... i swear that i will pay the true allegiance to _ majesty. .. i swear that i will pay the true allegiance to your- the true allegiance to your majesty... the true allegiance to your majesty- - -_ the true allegiance to your ma'es :, i :, , ., majesty... into your heirs and successors — majesty... into your heirs and successors according - majesty... into your heirs and successors according to - majesty... into your heirs and l successors according to lord... majesty... into your heirs and - successors according to lord... and our heirs successors according to lord... and your heirs and _ successors according to lord... jific your heirs and successors according to law... 50 your heirs and successors according to law... , your heirs and successors according to law- - -_ so - your heirs and successors according to law..._ so helpl your heirs and successors according i to law..._ so help me to law... so help me god. so help me god. wa to law... so help me god. so help me god- way back — to law... so help me god. so help me god. way back then _ to law... so help me god. so help me god. way back then there _ to law... so help me god. so help me god. way back then there is _ to law... so help me god. so help me god. way back then there is a - god. way back then there is a fanfare, i won't do that. find god. way back then there is a fanfare, i won't do that. and then all asked to _ fanfare, i won't do that. and then all asked to respond _ fanfare, i won't do that. and then all asked to respond god - fanfare, i won't do that. and then all asked to respond god save - fanfare, i won't do that. and then | all asked to respond god save king charles, long live king charles, made a king live forever. i will give you that. god save king charles. ,:, give you that. god save king charles. ., , charles. god save king charles. long live kin: charles. god save king charles. long live king charles. _ charles. god save king charles. long live king charles. long _ charles. god save king charles. long live king charles. long live _ charles. god save king charles. long live king charles. long live king - live king charles. long live king charles. made _ live king charles. long live king charles. made a _ live king charles. long live king charles. made a king _ live king charles. long live king charles. made a king live - live king charles. long live king i charles. made a king live forever. ma be

charles. made a king live forever. may be king _ charles. made a king live forever. may be king live _ charles. made a king live forever. may be king live forever. - charles. made a king live forever. may be king live forever. he - may be king live forever. he definitely won't, obviously. that is a rubbish beck, they shouldn't have done that. ~ :, a rubbish beck, they shouldn't have done that. ~ . ., , done that. what? that is sacrilegious. _ done that. what? that is sacrilegious. nobody - done that. what? that is i sacrilegious. nobody needs done that. what? that is - sacrilegious. nobody needs to live forever, sacrilegious. nobody needs to live forever. do _ sacrilegious. nobody needs to live forever, do they? _ sacrilegious. nobody needs to live forever, do they? we _ sacrilegious. nobody needs to live forever, do they? we thought - sacrilegious. nobody needs to live forever, do they? we thought the | forever, do they? we thought the queen would live forever but nobody does. :, , :, does. the other king lives forever, elvis. he definitely _ does. the other king lives forever, elvis. he definitely lives _ does. the other king lives forever, elvis. he definitely lives forever, i elvis. he definitely lives forever, i seen elvis. he definitely lives forever, i seen him _ elvis. he definitely lives forever, i seen him the _ elvis. he definitely lives forever, i seen him the other— elvis. he definitely lives forever, i seen him the other day - elvis. he definitely lives forever, | i seen him the other day actually. may be is about who lives forever in terms of the continuity of the monarchy, passing the chalice, as it were. the sacred chalice. elizabeth, will you be swearing allegiance? definitely. absolutely i will, yes. wide? _ definitely. absolutely i will, yes. wide? |— definitely. absolutely i will, yes. wide? ~ definitely. absolutely i will, yes. wide? ., �* , definitely. absolutely i will, yes. wide? ., �*, ., i . wide? i think it's a very clever move and _ wide? i think it's a very clever move and a — wide? i think it's a very clever move and a very _ wide? i think it's a very clever move and a very generous - wide? i think it's a very clever i move and a very generous move wide? i think it's a very clever - move and a very generous move on the part of— move and a very generous move on the part of the _ move and a very generous move on the part of the palace because it puts the public—

part of the palace because it puts the public at the heart of the coordination, a line in the national anthem _ coordination, a line in the national anthem to — coordination, a line in the national anthem to sing with heart and voice, and i_ anthem to sing with heart and voice, and i think— anthem to sing with heart and voice, and i think the opportunity for all of us _ and i think the opportunity for all of us to— and i think the opportunity for all of us tojoin in, is aware, that... and— of us tojoin in, is aware, that... and elaine— of us tojoin in, is aware, that... and elaine the rebellious scots but they never sing there any more. never get to verse three, would be a bit awkward. are you religious? it mean something when you say so help mean something when you say so help me god? , �* , :, mean something when you say so help megod? , �*, :, ., i ., :, me god? yes. it's not really an old man in the — me god? yes. it's not really an old man in the sky _ me god? yes. it's not really an old man in the sky typed _ me god? yes. it's not really an old man in the sky typed god, - me god? yes. it's not really an old | man in the sky typed god, although that is— man in the sky typed god, although that is what i grew up with, but it is a feeling — that is what i grew up with, but it is a feeling that we are all part of a continuum, and i do want to take up a continuum, and i do want to take upa—

a continuum, and i do want to take upa point— a continuum, and i do want to take up a point made earlier when it was said he _ up a point made earlier when it was said he does— up a point made earlier when it was said he does not think the royal family, — said he does not think the royal family, does not by the religion, think— family, does not by the religion, think that — family, does not by the religion, think that element works in the coronation and i do want to slightly disagree _ coronation and i do want to slightly disagree with that because i think the royals love this country, spin their— the royals love this country, spin their lives— the royals love this country, spin their lives coming out for those supporting disasters and applaud achievements and do charity and yes they have _ achievements and do charity and yes they have rich and privileged lifestyles but there is a long line of succession that is the their lives — of succession that is the their lives to— of succession that is the their lives to serving the country and i think— lives to serving the country and i think we — lives to serving the country and i think we can vocally support that. do you _ think we can vocally support that. do you support it, kenneth? no, definitely not. _ do you support it, kenneth? no, definitely not. the _ do you support it, kenneth? no, definitely not. the reason being people — definitely not. the reason being people in— definitely not. the reason being people in this _ definitely not. the reason being people in this country _ definitely not. the reason being people in this country have - definitely not. the reason being people in this country have gotl people in this country have got short— people in this country have got short memories. _ people in this country have got short memories. we _ people in this country have got short memories. we were -

people in this country have got. short memories. we were talking people in this country have got - short memories. we were talking not lon- short memories. we were talking not long ago— short memories. we were talking not long ago about — short memories. we were talking not long ago about princess _ short memories. we were talking not long ago about princess diana, - short memories. we were talking not long ago about princess diana, she i long ago about princess diana, she wasiust_ long ago about princess diana, she was just used — long ago about princess diana, she was just used as _ long ago about princess diana, she was just used as a _ long ago about princess diana, she was just used as a breeding - long ago about princess diana, she wasjust used as a breeding cow, i long ago about princess diana, shei wasjust used as a breeding cow, so they could _ wasjust used as a breeding cow, so they could have _ wasjust used as a breeding cow, so they could have a _ wasjust used as a breeding cow, so they could have a succession - wasjust used as a breeding cow, so they could have a succession going i they could have a succession going on. they could have a succession going on it— they could have a succession going on it pains— they could have a succession going on. it pains me _ they could have a succession going on. it pains me to— they could have a succession going on. it pains me to think— they could have a succession going on. it pains me to think that- they could have a succession going i on. it pains me to think that people at one _ on. it pains me to think that people at one time — on. it pains me to think that people at one time were _ on. it pains me to think that people at one time were decrying - on. it pains me to think that people at one time were decrying the i on. it pains me to think that people at one time were decrying the manl at one time were decrying the man and her— at one time were decrying the man and her for— at one time were decrying the man and herforthe _ at one time were decrying the man and her for the disgrace _ at one time were decrying the man and her for the disgrace that - and her for the disgrace that brought— and her for the disgrace that brought upon _ and her for the disgrace that brought upon this _ and her for the disgrace that brought upon this country, i and her for the disgrace that i brought upon this country, and and her for the disgrace that - brought upon this country, and i'm not a _ brought upon this country, and i'm not a religious _ brought upon this country, and i'm not a religious person _ brought upon this country, and i'm not a religious person at _ brought upon this country, and i'm not a religious person at all, - brought upon this country, and i'm not a religious person at all, but ii not a religious person at all, but i could _ not a religious person at all, but i could not— not a religious person at all, but i could not swear. _ not a religious person at all, but i could not swear. if _ not a religious person at all, but i could not swear. if it _ not a religious person at all, but i could not swear. if it had - not a religious person at all, but i could not swear. if it had any- could not swear. if it had any decency— could not swear. if it had any decency about _ could not swear. if it had any decency about him, - could not swear. if it had any decency about him, he - could not swear. if it had any| decency about him, he would could not swear. if it had any- decency about him, he would have stepped _ decency about him, he would have stepped aside _ decency about him, he would have stepped aside and _ decency about him, he would have stepped aside and let— decency about him, he would have stepped aside and let his - decency about him, he would have stepped aside and let his son- decency about him, he would have stepped aside and let his son take | stepped aside and let his son take over~ _ may they cast the first on chris mclean—mack exactly. it is just a feeling i have. . i mclean-mack exactly. it is 'ust a feeling i have. .- feeling i have. . i am not on my own. i discussed _ feeling i have. . i am not on my own. i discussed with _

feeling i have. . i am not on my own. i discussed with a - feeling i have. . i am not on my own. i discussed with a group i own. i discussed with a group of people — own. i discussed with a group of people a — own. i discussed with a group of people a -- _ own. i discussed with a group of people a —— several— own. i discussed with a group of people a —— several days - own. i discussed with a group of people a —— several days ago i own. i discussed with a group of| people a —— several days ago and own. i discussed with a group of- people a —— several days ago and we asked _ people a —— several days ago and we asked if— people a —— several days ago and we asked if you — people a —— several days ago and we asked if you are _ people a —— several days ago and we asked if you are four— people a —— several days ago and we asked if you are four or— people a —— several days ago and we asked if you are four or 558 - people a —— several days ago and we asked if you are four or 558 people i asked if you are four or 558 people it looked _ asked if you are four or 558 people it looked at— asked if you are four or 558 people it looked at me _ asked if you are four or 558 people it looked at me and _ asked if you are four or 558 people it looked at me and said _ asked if you are four or 558 people it looked at me and said yes, i asked if you are four or 558 people it looked at me and said yes, we i it looked at me and said yes, we forgot _ it looked at me and said yes, we forgot all— it looked at me and said yes, we forgot all about— it looked at me and said yes, we forgot all about that, _ it looked at me and said yes, we forgot all about that, and - it looked at me and said yes, we forgot all about that, and i - it looked at me and said yes, we forgot all about that, and i said. forgot all about that, and i said yeah. _ forgot all about that, and i said yeah. but— forgot all about that, and i said yeah, but still— forgot all about that, and i said yeah, but still a _ forgot all about that, and i said yeah, but still a feeling - forgot all about that, and i said yeah, but still a feeling inside i forgot all about that, and i saidl yeah, but still a feeling inside of me that — yeah, but still a feeling inside of me that he — yeah, but still a feeling inside of me that he brought— yeah, but still a feeling inside of me that he brought shame i yeah, but still a feeling inside of me that he brought shame on i yeah, but still a feeling inside of. me that he brought shame on the royal— me that he brought shame on the royal family— me that he brought shame on the royal family as— me that he brought shame on the royal family as a _ me that he brought shame on the royal family as a whole, - me that he brought shame on the royal family as a whole, shame i me that he brought shame on the i royal family as a whole, shame on his mother— royal family as a whole, shame on his mother and _ royal family as a whole, shame on his mother and shame _ royal family as a whole, shame on his mother and shame on- royal family as a whole, shame on his mother and shame on the i royal family as a whole, shame on i his mother and shame on the country. mic in _ his mother and shame on the country. mic in oldham, — his mother and shame on the country. mic in oldham, hello. _ his mother and shame on the country. mic in oldham, hello. kenneth - his mother and shame on the country. mic in oldham, hello. kenneth is i his mother and shame on the country. mic in oldham, hello. kenneth is not. mic in oldham, hello. kenneth is not into swearing an oath of allegiance at all, it is very, i won't so judgmental, but spiky comments about prince charles and his suitability.

it is notable for its accuracy, but one has— it is notable for its accuracy, but one has to — it is notable for its accuracy, but one has to cast aside and face it with_ one has to cast aside and face it with the — one has to cast aside and face it with the reality that charles is going — with the reality that charles is going to — with the reality that charles is going to become caring and the start he has _ going to become caring and the start he has made strikes me as being impressive. any retrospective programme about his life he said i promise _ programme about his life he said i promise to — programme about his life he said i promise to serve and i think my response — promise to serve and i think my response to this is giving back and i response to this is giving back and iwouid _ response to this is giving back and i would indeed response to this is giving back and iwould indeed be prepared response to this is giving back and i would indeed be prepared to respond — i would indeed be prepared to respond in the simple way asked of us. respond in the simple way asked of us may— respond in the simple way asked of us may i_ respond in the simple way asked of us. may i have a list of kings and queens _ us. may i have a list of kings and queens of— us. may i have a list of kings and queens of this country and england and scotland. and queens of this country and england and scotland-— queens of this country and england and scotland. and since the union of the crowns in _ and scotland. and since the union of the crowns in 1603, _ and scotland. and since the union of the crowns in 1603, quite _ and scotland. and since the union of the crowns in 1603, quite a - and scotland. and since the union of the crowns in 1603, quite a list - and scotland. and since the union of the crowns in 1603, quite a list of. the crowns in 1603, quite a list of moral turpitude, the crowns in 1603, quite a list of moralturpitude, i have the crowns in 1603, quite a list of moral turpitude, i have to say. i

haven't really got a list, see sound effects. you can bejudgmental about quite a lot of them, that's the point. ijust wonder, what do you think, christine, that the office, is that the right phrase for it, he urged chi who sits on the ground transcends personal fallibility? urged chi who sits on the ground transcends personalfallibility? i transcends personal fallibility? i think you are completely right transcends personal fallibility? i think you are completely right that they sort of transcend this from a practical perspective. all british monarchs are... practical perspective. all british monarchs are. . ._ practical perspective. all british monarchs are... practical perspective. all british monarchsare... ., , ,, monarchs are... you strike them off, one by one- — monarchs are... you strike them off, one by one. you would _ monarchs are... you strike them off, one by one. you would have - monarchs are... you strike them off, one by one. you would have a - monarchs are... you strike them off, | one by one. you would have a lengthy list the further back you go, the more suspicious some of these relationships and meetings become, most famously we think about king henry viii who certainly did a lot

of things for love or love acts, completely shifting the monarchy and culture of england as we know it, because he really liked and the lemon, and for other political reasons with the pope in rome but none of them are infallible, that is the problem that as a person they are human, but as a monarch they need to be sort of above all that, and we need to see them almost as infallible, which is impossible, they are human on the human, but as far as public persona, that person has to be infallible in our main what happens if you are an atheist royalists? i what happens if you are an atheist ro alists? ~ . what happens if you are an atheist ro alists? ,, . , . . royalists? i think that is a great ruestion royalists? i think that is a great question in _ royalists? i think that is a great question in terms _ royalists? i think that is a great question in terms of— royalists? i think that is a great question in terms of atheism . royalists? i think that is a great - question in terms of atheism because there is so much conversation lately evenin there is so much conversation lately even in the liturgy release the other day, a repetitive team of serving people of all faiths and beliefs and that they may live

freely and king charles's role is to protect that. it says right there on the archbishop of canterbury... says the archbishop of canterbury... says the king must swear his oath to seek to foster an environment in which people of all faiths and beliefs may live freely, so that would fall under atheism. the king is there to protect these freedoms.— protect these freedoms. atheism is not a faith- — protect these freedoms. atheism is not a faith- it _ protect these freedoms. atheism is not a faith. it is _ protect these freedoms. atheism is not a faith. it is a _ protect these freedoms. atheism is not a faith. it is a belief. _ protect these freedoms. atheism is not a faith. it is a belief. 0k. .. - not a faith. it is a belief. 0k. .. it is not a faith. it is a belief. 0k. .. it is not _ not a faith. it is a belief. 0k. .. it is not believing... _ not a faith. it is a belief. 0k. .. it is not believing... let's - not a faith. it is a belief. 0k. .. it is not believing... let's not i not a faith. it is a belief. 0k. .. i it is not believing... let's not get into that argument. there is a lot of god to you, god at the very heart of god to you, god at the very heart of it, the other thing i was going to ask is the archbishop, i read, royal blood princess then pay homage to the monarch, all of the royal blood princess? because thereby hangs a massive row, christine. this

is interesting. _ hangs a massive row, christine. t'i 3 is interesting, an interesting turn of phrase. traditionally they would have been a lot of royal blood prince' in this from my historical... anyone who thought they might have a right to live thrown swearing allegiance to the king. this is an evolution of ancient medieval historical rituals. now it is simply the prince of wales pledging his fealty to his father as the heir to the throne, is one revolution of this.— the heir to the throne, is one revolution of this. lets cut to the chase, revolution of this. lets cut to the chase. prince _ revolution of this. lets cut to the chase, prince andrew— revolution of this. lets cut to the chase, prince andrew is - revolution of this. lets cut to the chase, prince andrew is a - revolution of this. lets cut to the chase, prince andrew is a blood l chase, prince andrew is a blood prince, right? it is unconscionable that he is going to be out there upfront doing this and kissing beck, isn't it? . , ., ,, ., . isn't it? certainly, we do know that the expectation, _ isn't it? certainly, we do know that the expectation, he _ isn't it? certainly, we do know that the expectation, he has _ isn't it? certainly, we do know that the expectation, he has not - isn't it? certainly, we do know that the expectation, he has not been l the expectation, he has not been mentioned in any of the literature are the preceding hints on what we

will see on this day, he is notably absent. i suspect he will be in the audience not really making a scene of himself. , ., , . . , of himself. this goes against precedent- — of himself. this goes against precedent. previously - of himself. this goes against precedent. previously blood | precedent. previously blood princess, princes have done this. mic in oldham, amanda in edinburgh, good morning. what is your plan for the day? will you be swearing an oath of allegiance? no my and going out to visit some friends and i am having a small coronation party but i will not be swearing any oath of allegiance. i think it is archaic, feudalism does not belong in the 21st century, apart from anything else i am an atheist as well so i would not be taking part in swearing anything that god was involved in. so, yeah, i was quite impressed by rachel in

bangor who said she would do it for the craic for a laugh! shifter bangor who said she would do it for the craic for a laugh!— the craic for a laugh! after you have been _ the craic for a laugh! after you have been at _ the craic for a laugh! after you have been at the _ the craic for a laugh! after you have been at the street - the craic for a laugh! after you have been at the street party, | have been at the street party, amanda, and you have had a couple of proseccos... no!— proseccos. .. no! three proseccos? no! i am proseccos. .. no! three proseccos? no! i am very — proseccos. .. no! three proseccos? no! i am very proudly _ proseccos. .. no! three proseccos? no! i am very proudly scottish, - proseccos. .. no! three proseccos?| no! i am very proudly scottish, and pro independence, had i been undecided on the question of independence, this would have taken me well into the yes camp. because i just think it is not appropriate, to be honest i think it is a bit insulting to scotland and northern ireland. why? not too sure where wales stands, but... the ireland. why? not too sure where wales stands, but...— wales stands, but... the stone of destin is wales stands, but... the stone of destiny is going — wales stands, but... the stone of destiny is going to _ wales stands, but... the stone of destiny is going to be _ wales stands, but... the stone of destiny is going to be there... - wales stands, but... the stone of. destiny is going to be there... yes, and they had _ destiny is going to be there... yes, and they had better _ destiny is going to be there... is: and they had better return it. destiny is going to be there... yes, and they had better return it. they | and they had better return it. they will return it! _ and they had better return it. they will return it! they _ and they had better return it. they will return it! they kept _ and they had better return it. they will return it! they kept it for a long time, and then there of students in the 19505 nicked it from westminster abbey because previous to that, it was a kind of elgin

marbles, parthenon marbles situation, how do they? how do they? but it went home, the stone was coming home, and it went home, and now it goes down once every coronation, so that's fair enough. but that is very much a scottish stone, isn't it? so it is going to be there. but not for you, the swearing of the oath? ihla. be there. but not for you, the swearing of the oath? no, absolutely not. i swearing of the oath? no, absolutely not- i mean — swearing of the oath? no, absolutely not- i mean i— swearing of the oath? no, absolutely not. i mean i am _ swearing of the oath? no, absolutely not. i mean i am interested - swearing of the oath? no, absolutely not. i mean i am interested in - swearing of the oath? no, absolutely not. i mean i am interested in the . not. i mean i am interested in the combination, as a historical event, because i think, you know, i am likely to only see one, having reached the ripe old age of 60, i am likely to only see one. but my mother and herfamily all squeezed mother and her family all squeezed in mother and herfamily all squeezed in to my aunt's living room to watch it on a screen about the size of my ipad mini screen, so i think on a decent—sized screen and in colour and everything will be quite impressive. it is also a chance to have a small party, and meet up with

my friends, but it is not a street party, by the way, just a little party, by the way, just a little party and my friend's house. but thatis party and my friend's house. but that is as far as it goes for me. it is a historical event, i am interested in it, but no, no oath of allegiance, i'm afraid.— allegiance, i'm afraid. thank you very much _ allegiance, i'm afraid. thank you very much indeed. _ allegiance, i'm afraid. thank you very much indeed. so, _ allegiance, i'm afraid. thank you very much indeed. so, will- allegiance, i'm afraid. thank you very much indeed. so, will you l allegiance, i'm afraid. thank you | very much indeed. so, will you be swearing an oath of allegiance on the day? it's a bit of a gimmick, isn't it, christine, last thought from you? i mean we are going to regroup and lots of people are calling and expressing their views on this, is it a gimmick or is it, you know, reaching out to the people, christine, royal expert? it people, christine, royal expert? it is absolutely both. it is a gimmick to reach— is absolutely both. it is a gimmick to reach out to the people, i think! fair enough!— to reach out to the people, i think! fair enough! you know, the people who will like _ fair enough! you know, the people who will like it, _ fair enough! you know, the people who will like it, as _ fair enough! you know, the people who will like it, as we _ fair enough! you know, the people who will like it, as we have - fair enough! you know, the people who will like it, as we have heard, | who will like it, as we have heard, cieariy— who will like it, as we have heard, clearly respond very well to it, like included and like publicly, from _ like included and like publicly, from the — like included and like publicly, from the living room sofa, making that pledge, and the people who don't _ that pledge, and the people who don't like — that pledge, and the people who don't like it will think it is, you

know. — don't like it will think it is, you know. a — don't like it will think it is, you know, a terrible example of archaic rituals _ know, a terrible example of archaic rituals in _ know, a terrible example of archaic rituals in the 21st century that doesn't — rituals in the 21st century that doesn't belong modern britain. and this is— doesn't belong modern britain. and this is definitely not everyone's cup of— this is definitely not everyone's cup of tea, sort of is a situation. but i _ cup of tea, sort of is a situation. but i think— cup of tea, sort of is a situation. but i think the people who do like it will— but i think the people who do like it will really feel honoured to be included — it will really feel honoured to be included. i it will really feel honoured to be included. , ., .. . included. i 'ust love the fact what ou said included. i 'ust love the fact what you said j— included. i just love the fact what you said at the _ included. i just love the fact what you said at the outset, _ included. i just love the fact what you said at the outset, that - included. i just love the fact what you said at the outset, that if- included. i just love the fact what you said at the outset, that if it l you said at the outset, that if it is the case, i have not checked it out, that the church of england has stressed it is not obligatory. thank you very much! will you be swearing allegiance? the sacred numbers, 85058 and 08085 909693, please get in touch! and here is the news, from matthew. thank you very much, nicky. the nhs says staffing levels in some parts

of england will be exceptionally low today because of the strike by nurses, the first time a walkout by members of the rcn union will affect critical services like intensive care but some staff will be allowed to come off the picket line to help in emergencies. a final rescue flight for british nationals due to leave sudan is to go within the hour from port sudan, which is hundreds of miles away from the capital khartoum, where more fighting has been reported between rival military leaders. us regulators say the bank jpmorgan chase is to buy the troubled lender first republic after it became the third american bank to collapse in two months. shares in first republic plunged last week after it admitted customers had withdrawn $100 billion in deposits in march. and the england coastal path, the longest walking trail in the country, is to be renamed the king charles ii! england coastal path, in honour of the coronation. the route runs for 2700 miles around the whole of the english coastline. those are the headlines, katie smith has got the sport. former world champion shaun murphy says it was

crucial that mark selby followed up his historic 147 maximum break by winning the finalframe his historic 147 maximum break by winning the final frame of last night euler succession at the crucible. it means the four—time champion trails luca byjust one frame in the world snooker championship final, they resume at one o'clock with the belgian 9—8 ahead, remember, 18 is the magic number. the pgm are welcome at the body in charge of referees, says after reviewing recordings from liverpool's's 4—3 win over spurs yesterday, they strongly refute that paul tierney�*s actions in the match were improper, jurgen klopp was booked and also seem to pull his hamstring as he berated the fourth official following the winner, he also said the referee said to him which was not ok. leicester and everton are battling tonight, trying to get out of the drop zone. and the arsenal manager wants his side to

repay the faith of the fans tonight in the semifinals of the champions league. the coronation will be televised and radio 5 live as well. some texts...

i will not swear allegiance to camilla, but i would be honoured to swear allegiance to his majesty king and to his heirs and successors. and this one... i swore an oath to the queen when ijoined the raf over 20 years ago as a brownie girl guide leader along with all other leaders and young people in the guiding and scout movement i swear allegiance to the monarch, the late queen and now the monarch, the late queen and now the king. that is from katie in if you text us, put your name and where you text us, put your name and where you are from, that is really helpful, thank you, katie. discussing with my 17—year—old son we wondered why we weren't pledging allegiance to the country, my son said he would pledge allegiance to the world, rather than one man. that is lucy in manchester. it is a curious word, allegiance. does it smack of an age of deference or not? is it about continuity? the sacred continuity and majesty of this realm? i wonder. joe in winchester.

and anna in llantwit major new glamorgan. and we have got these people coming up, hopefully. who have weak got coming up now, colour in bath among others. this is so busy. good morning to all of you, carla, will you be swearing an oath of allegiance to the king, his heirs and successors, and all that? i will]! and successors, and all that? i will be swearing. _ and successors, and all that? i will be swearing, but _ and successors, and all that? i will be swearing, but it _ and successors, and all that? i will be swearing, but it won't _ and successors, and all that? in ll be swearing, but it won't be allegiance. i'm afraid. i have nothing but contempt and disgust for them, i am nothing but contempt and disgust for them, lam having nothing but contempt and disgust for them, i am having a nothing but contempt and disgust for them, lam having a huge nothing but contempt and disgust for them, i am having a huge big nothing but contempt and disgust for them, lam having a huge big picture of di in my living room window with queen of hearts, not queen of tarts,

which the other one is, to me and 90, which the other one is, to me and go, that is stronger that is strong. i think people have short memories. . yes, but you know, isn't it time to move on? _ . yes, but you know, isn't it time to move on? it's _ . yes, but you know, isn't it time to move on? it's a _ . yes, but you know, isn't it time to move on? it's a very _ . yes, but you know, isn't it time l to move on? it's a very disparaging comment, if i may say so. to move on? it's a very disparaging comment, if i may say 50. listen, it's about expressing your view. yes, exactly. it's about expressing your view. yes. exactly-— it's about expressing your view. yes, exactly. this is what this is all about, _ yes, exactly. this is what this is all about. so — yes, exactly. this is what this is all about, so that _ yes, exactly. this is what this is all about, so that is _ yes, exactly. this is what this is all about, so that is fine, - yes, exactly. this is what this is all about, so that is fine, you i yes, exactly. this is what this is i all about, so that is fine, you said it, but it was, nasty, to call her that...? it it, but it was, nasty, to call her that...? ., , it, but it was, nasty, to call her that...? . , . it, but it was, nasty, to call her that---?— it, but it was, nasty, to call her that- - - ?_ ai that...? it was what, sorry? a little bit _ that...? it was what, sorry? a little bit nasty, _ that...? it was what, sorry? a little bit nasty, to _ that...? it was what, sorry? a little bit nasty, to call - that...? it was what, sorry? a little bit nasty, to call camillo| little bit nasty, to call camillo that? ., ., ., ~ that? not at all. i think the nastiness _ that? not at all. i think the nastiness was _ that? not at all. i think the nastiness was what - that? not at all. i think the nastiness was what was - that? not at all. | think the i nastiness was what was going that? not at all. | think the - nastiness was what was going on that? not at all. i think the _ nastiness was what was going on from the word go, even when he said back at the engagement, love, whatever thatis, at the engagement, love, whatever that is, i think was nasty, on her, and the carrying on back then. he never loved her. i— and the carrying on back then. he never loved her. i don't— and the carrying on back then. he never loved her. i don't know - and the carrying on back then. he j never loved her. i don't know how harry feels. _ never loved her. i don't know how harry feels. it _ never loved her. i don't know how harry feels, it is _ never loved her. i don't know how

harry feels, it is his _ never loved her. i don't know how harry feels, it is his mother, - never loved her. i don't know how harry feels, it is his mother, but. never loved her. i don't know how harry feels, it is his mother, but i can only assume that maybe he is not on board with it, his mother... are used to like william, but i think he's selling his soul.— he's selling his soul. selling his soul? that _ he's selling his soul. selling his soul? that is _ he's selling his soul. selling his soul? that is my _ he's selling his soul. selling his soul? that is my opinion - he's selling his soul. selling his soul? that is my opinion on - he's selling his soul. selling his soul? that is my opinion on it. | he's selling his soul. selling his - soul? that is my opinion on it. that is what we — soul? that is my opinion on it. that is what we want, _ soul? that is my opinion on it. that is what we want, absolutely. - soul? that is my opinion on it. that is what we want, absolutely. and . is what we want, absolutely. and carla, you are actually going to be having a picture of diana up there? yes, i am. having a picture of diana up there? yes, lam. yep. i having a picture of diana up there? yes. i am- yep-— yes, i am. yep. i wonder what she would think— yes, i am. yep. i wonder what she would think of _ yes, i am. yep. i wonder what she would think of it? _ yes, i am. yep. i wonder what she would think of it? what _ yes, i am. yep. i wonder what she would think of it? what do - yes, i am. yep. i wonder what she would think of it? what do you - yes, i am. yep. i wonder what she i would think of it? what do you think she would think? it would think of it? what do you think she would think?— she would think? it won't be allegiance. _ she would think? it won't be allegiance, not _ she would think? it won't be allegiance, not to _ she would think? it won't be allegiance, not to them - she would think? it won't be j allegiance, not to them two. she would think? it won't be - allegiance, not to them two. but you will be swearing? _ allegiance, not to them two. but you will be swearing? what _ allegiance, not to them two. but you will be swearing? what do _ allegiance, not to them two. but you will be swearing? what do you - allegiance, not to them two. but you will be swearing? what do you think| will be swearing? what do you think diana would make of it all? i will be swearing? what do you think diana would make of it all?- diana would make of it all? i think she would be. _ diana would make of it all? i think she would be, what _ diana would make of it all? i think she would be, what anyone - diana would make of it all? i think she would be, what anyone would | diana would make of it all? i think - she would be, what anyone would be, what she obviously was back then, incredibly, incredibly hurt. they

were... they didn't split up and then meet one another again in later life, they were doing it from the word go. i have no sympathy or any loyalty to him or her, not at all. you will never forgive? trio. loyalty to him or her, not at all. you will never forgive?- loyalty to him or her, not at all. you will never forgive? no, no, not that, no, you will never forgive? no, no, not that. no. i— you will never forgive? no, no, not that. no. iwon't— you will never forgive? no, no, not that, no, iwon't forgive. _ you will never forgive? no, no, not that, no, iwon't forgive. no. - you will never forgive? no, no, not that, no, iwon't forgive. no. they| that, no, iwon't forgive. no. they don't even register in my world, you know. i see it on the telly, i don't think twice about them. but now that the coronation has come up, it has made me think, no, she is not my queen. she is certainly not my queen. . , ., , queen. she is certainly not my queen. . , , . queen. haidee, will you be swearing alleviance? queen. haidee, will you be swearing allegiance? 0h. _ queen. haidee, will you be swearing allegiance? oh, no _ queen. haidee, will you be swearing allegiance? oh, no way. _ queen. haidee, will you be swearing allegiance? oh, no way. no - queen. haidee, will you be swearing allegiance? oh, no way. no way. - allegiance? oh, no way. no way. thank you! _ allegiance? oh, no way. no way. thank you! why _ allegiance? oh, no way. no way. thank you! why not? _ allegiance? oh, no way. no way. thank you! why not? no, - allegiance? oh, no way. no way. thank you! why not? no, erm...j allegiance? oh, no way. no way. - thank you! why not? no, erm... the ro als thank you! why not? no, erm... the royals have — thank you! why not? no, erm... the royals have so _ thank you! why not? no, erm... the royals have so much _ thank you! why not? no, erm... the royals have so much power, - thank you! why not? no, erm... the royals have so much power, and, -

thank you! why not? no, erm... the royals have so much power, and, i. royals have so much power, and, i mean. _ royals have so much power, and, i mean. they— royals have so much power, and, i mean, they look like it's a parade for tourism — mean, they look like it's a parade for tourism and, you know, all sympathy— for tourism and, you know, all sympathy for the king and the royals. — sympathy for the king and the royals, but don't forget, they receive — royals, but don't forget, they receive a _ royals, but don't forget, they receive a red box full of proposals that are _ receive a red box full of proposals that are going to be discussed in government, andy king, or queen, they can _ government, andy king, or queen, they can influence that, so, for somebody— they can influence that, so, for somebody holding that power, to influence — somebody holding that power, to influence and to keep privilege for his family— influence and to keep privilege for his family and his middle eastern friends _ his family and his middle eastern friends and all that, no way. no way _ friends and all that, no way. no wa . , ~ . , , way. his middle eastern friends, that is an interesting _ way. his middle eastern friends, that is an interesting little... - that is an interesting little... yes, i also, that is an interesting little... yes, ialso, according that is an interesting little... yes, i also, according to the humanist— yes, i also, according to the humanist uk, the majority of the country— humanist uk, the majority of the country is — humanist uk, the majority of the country is not religious, so, if we don't _ country is not religious, so, if we don't believe in a god, and the king and queen— don't believe in a god, and the king and queen are appointed by god, so

how that _ and queen are appointed by god, so how that represents the will of the people? _ how that represents the will of the people? so, they are not good surrender— people? so, they are not good surrender their privileges. appointed, and then anointed, yes, this is god's choice, that's the thing, isn't it, yeah?— this is god's choice, that's the thing, isn't it, yeah? well, god can have them! — thing, isn't it, yeah? well, god can have them! what? _ thing, isn't it, yeah? well, god can have them! what? did _ thing, isn't it, yeah? well, god can have them! what? did you - thing, isn't it, yeah? well, god can have them! what? did you say - thing, isn't it, yeah? well, god can have them! what? did you say god| thing, isn't it, yeah? well, god can - have them! what? did you say god can have them! what? did you say god can have them? — have them! what? did you say god can have them? yes, _ have them! what? did you say god can have them? yes, take _ have them! what? did you say god can have them? yes, take them _ have them! what? did you say god can have them? yes, take them away, - have them? yes, take them away, lease. have them? yes, take them away, please. celebrity _ have them? yes, take them away, please. celebrity parade, - have them? yes, take them away, please. celebrity parade, just - have them? yes, take them away, please. celebrity parade, just to i please. celebrity parade, just to -ain please. celebrity parade, just to gain more — please. celebrity parade, just to gain more popularity with the people. — gain more popularity with the people, all this coronation whatever. no, no allegiance at all. and i_ whatever. no, no allegiance at all. and i don't— whatever. no, no allegiance at all. and i don't feel like my voice is represented there, i believe more in the elections and a government that we have _ the elections and a government that we have representation. the house of

lords _ we have representation. the house of lords and _ we have representation. the house of lords and all — we have representation. the house of lords and all the... | we have representation. the house of lords and all the. . ._ lords and all the. .. i understand. will ou lords and all the. .. i understand. will you be _ lords and all the. .. i understand. will you be watching? _ lords and all the. .. i understand. will you be watching? maybe - lords and all the. .. i understand. | will you be watching? maybe not. ma be will you be watching? maybe not. maybe when _ will you be watching? maybe not. maybe when i _ will you be watching? maybe not. maybe when i am _ will you be watching? maybe not. maybe when i am changing - will you be watching? maybe not. . maybe when i am changing channels, will you be watching? maybe not. - maybe when i am changing channels, i prefer— maybe when i am changing channels, i prefer a _ maybe when i am changing channels, i prefer a movie, to be honest. karen in sheffield. — prefer a movie, to be honest. karen in sheffield, will _ prefer a movie, to be honest. karen in sheffield, will you _ prefer a movie, to be honest. karen in sheffield, will you be _ prefer a movie, to be honest. karen in sheffield, will you be swearing i in sheffield, will you be swearing an oath of allegiance? absolutely. absolutely? _ an oath of allegiance? absolutely. absolutely? absolutely, _ an oath of allegiance? absolutely. absolutely? absolutely, 100%, i absolutely? absolutely, 100%, because i think _ absolutely? absolutely, 100%, because i think people - absolutely? absolutely, 100%, because i think people form i absolutely? absolutely, 100%, - because i think people form somewhat selfish views regarding the royal family, they mistake, you know, they compare the riches that the royal family have two what they haven't got, that is the first thing. and they get personal, and they miss the point that the royal family is the backbone of this country and the impact it has across the world is immense, and this country doesn't

have the title great britain for nothing. it have the title great britain for nothint. . . have the title great britain for nothint. . , . have the title great britain for nothin. ., , ., �* ., nothing. it means greater britain, or bigger- -- _ nothing. it means greater britain, or bigger- -- let — nothing. it means greater britain, or bigger... let me _ nothing. it means greater britain, or bigger. .. let me ask— nothing. it means greater britain, or bigger... let me ask you i nothing. it means greater britain, | or bigger... let me ask you this... it unifies the country. or bigger. .. let me ask you this... it unifies the country.— it unifies the country. what does alleviance it unifies the country. what does allegiance mean, _ it unifies the country. what does allegiance mean, if— it unifies the country. what does allegiance mean, if you - it unifies the country. what does allegiance mean, if you swear. it unifies the country. what doesj allegiance mean, if you swear it, what does it entail, or are they empty words, how will your allegiance manifest itself? mi; allegiance manifest itself? if! allegiance manifest itself? if! allegiance is allegiance manifest itself? ij�*i1: allegiance is that allegiance manifest itself? m1 allegiance is that i support the royal family and what it represents for this country. not me personally, not what it represents for me personally, what it means for this country to keep this country strong, to keep the government in check. you know, without the royal family, the government is just there doing its thing. they have to answer to the crown and go do you think the royal family is a check and balance to the government, i'm not sure...? absolutely. government, i'm not sure...? absolutely-— government, i'm not sure...? absolutel . , . . , absolutely. give me an example. well, it is subtle, _ absolutely. give me an example. well, it is subtle, it _ absolutely. give me an example. well, it is subtle, it doesn't i

absolutely. give me an example. | well, it is subtle, it doesn't mean that the royal family can have a political opinion and enforce it, it is a subtle respect. and that is what has made this country great. and when you remove that, you have a situation like america, and many other countries across the world. but a raised eyebrow in a one—to—one audience with the monarch does not change policy. it}! audience with the monarch does not change policy-— change policy. of course it doesn't, but it is a subtle _ change policy. of course it doesn't, but it is a subtle thing. _ change policy. of course it doesn't, but it is a subtle thing. is _ change policy. of course it doesn't, but it is a subtle thing. is it? i but it is a subtle thing. is it? yes, but it is a subtle thing. is it? yes. that _ but it is a subtle thing. is it? yes, that the _ but it is a subtle thing. is it? yes, that the government i but it is a subtle thing. is it? | yes, that the government has but it is a subtle thing. is it? i yes, that the government has to but it is a subtle thing. is it? - yes, that the government has to go and meet with the king or queen and sit there and know that there is an eye there, you know watching? realize eye there, you know watching? really es, eye there, you know watching? really yes. definitely- _ eye there, you know watching? really yes. definitely- l— eye there, you know watching? really yes, definitely. ithink— eye there, you know watching? really yes, definitely. ithink if— eye there, you know watching? really yes, definitely. i think if people i yes, definitely. i think if people thought that was the case, i think a lot of people would be outraged because they would have thought that was fundamentally incredibly

undemocratic. anna, hello, anna. anna in llantwit major, are you there? anna in llantwit ma'or, are you there? . anna in llantwit ma'or, are you there? , ., anna in llantwit major, are you there?_ hello! i anna in llantwit major, are you there?_ hello! to i anna in llantwit major, are you l there?_ hello! to hear there? yes, hello. hello! to hear karen there. _ there? yes, hello. hello! to hear karen there, it's _ there? yes, hello. hello! to hear karen there, it's really _ karen there, it's really interesting, but karen will be swearing that oath of allegiance because she believed that there is something about the monarchy, the monarch, the king, the queen, that hold things in check and also is stability and continuity, what do you think, anna?— stability and continuity, what do you think, anna? stability and continuity, what do ou think, anna? ~ _, , ., you think, anna? well, could be done b an you think, anna? well, could be done by an elected — you think, anna? well, could be done by an elected head _ you think, anna? well, could be done by an elected head of _ you think, anna? well, could be done by an elected head of state, - you think, anna? well, could be done by an elected head of state, as - you think, anna? well, could be done by an elected head of state, as it i by an elected head of state, as it happens — by an elected head of state, as it happens in — by an elected head of state, as it happens in all of the republics all over the — happens in all of the republics all over the world. and i won't be swearing — over the world. and i won't be swearing any allegiance, apologies for my— swearing any allegiance, apologies for my crooked voice, i also possibly— for my crooked voice, i also possibly will not watch it. —— croaky — possibly will not watch it. —— croaky voice. because it is not about— croaky voice. because it is not about the _ croaky voice. because it is not

about the people, i have had a lot of people — about the people, i have had a lot of people not happy with the person of people not happy with the person of charles _ of people not happy with the person of charles and camilla, for me, it is a question— of charles and camilla, for me, it is a question of principle, and i think— is a question of principle, and i think that _ is a question of principle, and i think that all human beings are equal— think that all human beings are equal and — think that all human beings are equal and i don't want to have something that is there just because of a right— something that is there just because of a right of birth. i want those who— of a right of birth. i want those who represent me to be elected and i think that _ who represent me to be elected and i think that this is democracy, and that is— think that this is democracy, and that is why— think that this is democracy, and that is why i don't believe the monarchy— that is why i don't believe the monarchy is the form of government, the former— monarchy is the form of government, the former state, that we should have. _ the former state, that we should have. we — the former state, that we should have. we have a parliamentary democracy, with a question mark on the house _ democracy, with a question mark on the house of— democracy, with a question mark on the house of lords, again, why couldn't— the house of lords, again, why couldn't we have an elected head of state. _ couldn't we have an elected head of state. an— couldn't we have an elected head of state, an elected head of state is

responsible for everything, you don't _ responsible for everything, you don't need a royal family to do that. _ don't need a royal family to do that. �* . don't need a royal family to do that. . , . , . that. and it is great, this parade of opinion. _ that. and it is great, this parade of opinion. l— that. and it is great, this parade of opinion, i love _ that. and it is great, this parade of opinion, i love it. _ that. and it is great, this parade of opinion, i love it. becky i that. and it is great, this parade of opinion, i love it. becky in i of opinion, i love it. becky in bedworth, hello. and richard in nottingham, king richard, hello, richard. how are youse, 0k? irlice nottingham, king richard, hello, richard. how are youse, 0k? nice to talk to you- — richard. how are youse, 0k? nice to talk to you- becky — richard. how are youse, 0k? nice to talk to you. becky in _ richard. how are youse, 0k? nice to talk to you. becky in bedworth, i richard. how are youse, 0k? nice to talk to you. becky in bedworth, whatj talk to you. becky in bedworth, what do ou talk to you. becky in bedworth, what do you think. — talk to you. becky in bedworth, what do you think, will _ talk to you. becky in bedworth, what do you think, will you _ talk to you. becky in bedworth, what do you think, will you be _ talk to you. becky in bedworth, what do you think, will you be swearing i do you think, will you be swearing an oath of allegiance?— an oath of allegiance? well, i had to do that when _ an oath of allegiance? well, i had to do that when i _ an oath of allegiance? well, i had to do that when i became - an oath of allegiance? well, i had to do that when i became a i an oath of allegiance? well, i had | to do that when i became a british citizen, to become a british citizen, to become a british citizen, you have to swear an oath of allegiance to the royal family before it becomes legal.- of allegiance to the royal family before it becomes legal. talked me throu . h it, before it becomes legal. talked me through it, what _ before it becomes legal. talked me through it, what happened? - before it becomes legal. talked me i through it, what happened? obviously i a- lied for through it, what happened? obviously i applied for british _ through it, what happened? obviously i applied for british citizenship, - i applied for british citizenship, thenit i applied for british citizenship, then it got approved and i got a letterfrom the home then it got approved and i got a letter from the home of his that i had been approved but for it to become effective, you had to go through a citizenship ceremony, during which you have to swear an

oath of allegiance to at that time it was her majesty the queen, her heirs and successors, and also loyalty to the country itself. but it was the whole oath that made it legal because then they signed the certificate to be able to send it to me, so without that, if i had not gone through that citizenship or that oath i would not be a british citizen now. that oath i would not be a british citizen now— citizen now. how did it feel when ou tot citizen now. how did it feel when you got the _ citizen now. how did it feel when you got the letter _ citizen now. how did it feel when you got the letter saying - citizen now. how did it feel when you got the letter saying that i citizen now. how did it feel when | you got the letter saying that you had been approved, was that a good feeling? it had been approved, was that a good feelin: ? . . had been approved, was that a good feelin: ? ., , , had been approved, was that a good feelin? , , , , . feeling? it was, yes, because i have been here 30 _ feeling? it was, yes, because i have been here 30 years, _ feeling? it was, yes, because i have been here 30 years, i _ feeling? it was, yes, because i have been here 30 years, i was _ feeling? it was, yes, because i have been here 30 years, i was also i feeling? it was, yes, because i have been here 30 years, i was also a i been here 30 years, i was also a german citizen, so for me, brexit was a big reason, i know this is home, and so i don't have to worry about coming home, so to speak, so i have now got two passports. your hed . int have now got two passports. your hedging your — have now got two passports. your hedging your bets. _ have now got two passports. your hedging your bets. yes, - have now got two passports. your l hedging your bets. yes, absolutely. what did you _ hedging your bets. yes, absolutely. what did you have _ hedging your bets. yes, absolutely. what did you have to _ hedging your bets. yes, absolutely. what did you have to say, _ hedging your bets. yes, absolutely. what did you have to say, did i hedging your bets. yes, absolutely. what did you have to say, did you i what did you have to say, did you have to say, i swear that i will pay

true allegiance to your majesty and heirs and successors, so help me god? . . . , heirs and successors, so help me god? . , , , . heirs and successors, so help me god? ,~ god? that is pretty much it, yeah. i had no problem _ god? that is pretty much it, yeah. i had no problem with _ god? that is pretty much it, yeah. i had no problem with that. - god? that is pretty much it, yeah. i had no problem with that. it - god? that is pretty much it, yeah. i had no problem with that. it has i had no problem with that. it has been part of my life, i still have big memories of charles�* marriage to diana, for instance, so the royal family has been part of my life, i joined the large queue when her majesty died because having sworn that oath it was just all part of me being british, really. it that oath it wasjust all part of me being british, really.— being british, really. it means a lot to yom _ being british, really. it means a lot to yom it — being british, really. it means a lot to you. it does. _ being british, really. it means a lot to you. it does. i _ being british, really. it means a lot to you. it does. i am - being british, really. it means a lot to you. it does. i am just - lot to you. it does. i am 'ust thinking. iii lot to you. it does. i am 'ust thinking, it seems �* lot to you. it does. i am 'ust thinking, it seems to h lot to you. it does. i am 'ust thinking, it seems to beh lot to you. it does. i am just thinking, it seems to be a i thinking, it seems to be a requirement if you want to become british and so i don�*t see the problem if you are born british to just do the same thing. but that is busilyjust a personal opinion. obviouslyjust a personal opinion is what i crave and cherish, it�*s great. and so will you be oathing

along? great. and so will you be oathing aloni ? .. , great. and so will you be oathing aloni? ~' , , , ., along? likely, because i have already done _ along? likely, because i have already done it, _ along? likely, because i have already done it, and - along? likely, because i have already done it, and because| along? likely, because i have. already done it, and because he along? likely, because i have- already done it, and because he is the heir and successor, so i don�*t have a problem with that. i swore an oath to him the first time, so i don�*t have a problem with it. talking to the tv. mind you, i do that a lot. anyway...! what a lot of nonsense that person is speaking! people do it to me all the time. anyway, alison and richard, that is brilliant, becky, alison and richard, let�*s go alison first, we will be right with you, richard, alison, will you be swearing an oath of allegiance?— of allegiance? that i am not sure about yet. _ of allegiance? that i am not sure about yet. the — of allegiance? that i am not sure about yet, the rest _ of allegiance? that i am not sure about yet, the rest of _ of allegiance? that i am not sure about yet, the rest of my - of allegiance? that i am not sure about yet, the rest of my familyl about yet, the rest of my family will be and i will probablyjoin in because we are having like a party here in our home if that makes sense. ., ., �* ., sense. so, hang on, you're on the sofa, sense. so, hang on, you're on the sofa. how — sense. so, hang on, you're on the sofa. how many — sense. so, hang on, you're on the sofa, how many of _ sense. so, hang on, you're on the sofa, how many of you _ sense. so, hang on, you're on the sofa, how many of you will- sense. so, hang on, you're on the sofa, how many of you will be - sofa, how many of you will be gathered around the cathode—ray

tube? gathered around the cathode-ray tube? . , ., tube? including my two grandchildren, - tube? including my two grandchildren, it - tube? including my two grandchildren, it is - tube? including my two grandchildren, it is like| tube? including my two i grandchildren, it is like an tube? including my two _ grandchildren, it is like an amazing time in history, isn�*t it? grandchildren, it is like an amazing time in history, isn't it?— time in history, isn't it? yeah. the little ones. — time in history, isn't it? yeah. the little ones, maybe _ time in history, isn't it? yeah. the little ones, maybe not, _ time in history, isn't it? yeah. the little ones, maybe not, but- time in history, isn't it? yeah. the little ones, maybe not, but say - time in history, isn't it? yeah. the| little ones, maybe not, but say the adults, and the older kids, will you be doing it altogether, like a chart? , a be doing it altogether, like a chart?- a mantra? - be doing it altogether, like a chart?- a mantra?- be doing it altogether, like a chart?- a mantra? chart? yes. a mantra? i first of all said that i — chart? yes. a mantra? i first of all said that i wasn't _ chart? yes. a mantra? i first of all said that i wasn't necessarily - chart? yes. a mantra? i first of all| said that i wasn't necessarily going said that i wasn�*t necessarily going to join said that i wasn�*t necessarily going tojoin in but i think as time has gone on and as they pointed out to me i have bought so many things for it now, i may as welljoin in. and the more i hear people talking the way they have talked as well, like, about camilla and charles, it makes me want to do it all the more. that is interesting. _ me want to do it all the more. that is interesting, why _ me want to do it all the more. that is interesting, why is _ me want to do it all the more. that is interesting, why is that? confirming your opposition? because basicall , i confirming your opposition? because basically. i think— confirming your opposition? because basically, i think it _ confirming your opposition? because basically, i think it is _ confirming your opposition? because basically, i think it is really _ basically, i think it is really disgusting for people to come on and use of some of the terminology that they have used describing camilla and charles, there is not many families these days that have not got a divorce, separated or something, and so to keepjudging somebody by that i think it is quite

disgusting, actually, and the words they used, that is what made me bring in, if i�*m honest. i they used, that is what made me bring in, if i'm honest.— bring in, if i'm honest. i know which word — bring in, if i'm honest. i know which word you _ bring in, if i'm honest. i know which word you are _ bring in, if i'm honest. i know which word you are referring i bring in, if i'm honest. i know. which word you are referring to, bring in, if i'm honest. i know- which word you are referring to, i didn�*t want to be disrespected to the person who said it but i tried to gently berate, it was very strong, wasn�*t it? it to gently berate, it was very strong, wasn't it?— to gently berate, it was very strong, wasn't it? it was very stroni , strong, wasn't it? it was very strong. i — strong, wasn't it? it was very strong. i saw — strong, wasn't it? it was very strong, i saw your _ strong, wasn't it? it was very strong, i saw your trying - strong, wasn't it? it was very strong, i saw your trying to i strong, wasn't it? it was very | strong, i saw your trying to do strong, wasn't it? it was very - strong, i saw your trying to do that as well, by the way.— strong, i saw your trying to do that as well, by the way. thank you, you are watching. _ as well, by the way. thank you, you are watching, 0k, _ as well, by the way. thank you, you are watching, ok, that's _ as well, by the way. thank you, you are watching, ok, that's good. - as well, by the way. thank you, you are watching, ok, that's good. how| are watching, ok, that�*s good. how old is everyone going to be, from eight to 80, in your front room? in eight to 80, in your front room? in our front room there is going to be myself, 57, and then there is going to be my husband, who is 5a, and then there is our daughter, who has got the day off work, she is 31, and then there is our other daughter, 27, my son—in—law, who is also 27, and my two grandchildren, my grandson who is ten and migrant who is five months. i grandson who is ten and migrant who is five months.— is five months. i would be really interested _ is five months. i would be really interested to _ is five months. i would be really interested to know _ is five months. i would be really interested to know what - is five months. i would be really interested to know what your i interested to know what your ten—year—old grandson legs of the whole thing. because 10—year—olds

are pretty savvy. god save king, long live king, made a king live for ever. quite a few people have picked up ever. quite a few people have picked up on that plea for eternity. i think what you said was white, they are talking about it going on for ever, through the generations, and let�*s face it we all want to live for ever and hope we are passing it down to the generations. brilliantly nut. down to the generations. brilliantly put. richard. _ down to the generations. brilliantly put. richard, good _ down to the generations. brilliantly put. richard, good morning, - down to the generations. brilliantly put. richard, good morning, sir. i put. richard, good morning, sir. good morning. inilnl’iii put. richard, good morning, sir. good morning.— put. richard, good morning, sir. good morning. will you be swearing an oath of allegiance _ good morning. will you be swearing an oath of allegiance on _ good morning. will you be swearing an oath of allegiance on the - good morning. will you be swearing an oath of allegiance on the day? i an oath of allegiance on the day? yes, i will. an oath of allegiance on the day? yes, iwill. ifeel that an oath of allegiance on the day? yes, i will. ifeel that this yes, iwill. i feel that this country— yes, i will. i feel that this country works with the monarchy, it works _ country works with the monarchy, it works with — country works with the monarchy, it works with our system, not only us but the _ works with our system, not only us but the canadians and also the australians, it seems to work for them _ australians, it seems to work for them as— australians, it seems to work for them as well. i think it brings

something above politics into life, we don't _ something above politics into life, we don't really trust, i don't trust. — we don't really trust, i don't trust, politicians, but the monarchy seems_ trust, politicians, but the monarchy seems to— trust, politicians, but the monarchy seems to be — trust, politicians, but the monarchy seems to be trustworthy mother has been some _ seems to be trustworthy mother has been some amazing people, which have fulfilled _ been some amazing people, which have fulfilled the role, george vi, during — fulfilled the role, george vi, during the warand fulfilled the role, george vi, during the war and also the wonderful late queen and charles i'm sure will— wonderful late queen and charles i'm sure will be _ wonderful late queen and charles i'm sure will be an amazing king. i would — sure will be an amazing king. i would hate to see... 50 sure will be an amazing king. i would hate to see. . ._ sure will be an amazing king. i would hate to see... so on the day ou will would hate to see... so on the day you will be — would hate to see... so on the day you will be raising _ would hate to see... so on the day you will be raising a _ would hate to see... so on the day you will be raising a glass - would hate to see... so on the day you will be raising a glass and - would hate to see... so on the day you will be raising a glass and you | you will be raising a glass and you will bejoining in the you will be raising a glass and you will be joining in the oath of allegiance. was that you, anna, in the background? still small voice of calm, or otherwise, camilla...? yes. calm, or otherwise, camilla...? yes, i was 'ust calm, or otherwise, camilla...? yes,

i wasjust commenting _ calm, or otherwise, camilla...? yes, i wasjust commenting that, - calm, or otherwise, camilla...? use: i wasjust commenting that, you i was just commenting that, you know, we don�*t always need a king, or queen, to govern the country. and the other commonwealth countries, they are mainly parliamentary democracy, as i was saying earlier on. , , ., ., on. let me 'ust tell you what lambeth _ on. let me just tell you what lambeth palace _ on. let me just tell you what lambeth palace have - on. let me just tell you what lambeth palace have said. i on. let me just tell you what i lambeth palace have said. that on. let me just tell you what - lambeth palace have said. that is of course the seat, the home, of the archbishop of canterbury, a spokesman philander palace, the archbishop�*s office, said, the homage of the people is particularly exciting because that is brand—new. that is something that we can share in because of technological advances, so, notjust the people in the abbey —— a spokesman for lambeth palace —— but people who are online, on television, who are listening and who are gathered in parks at big screens and churches, our hope is that at that point, when the archbishop invites people tojoin

in, that people, wherever they are, if they are watching at home, on their own, watching the telly, will say it out loud, this sense of a great cry around the nation, around the world, of support for the king. there is nothing in that, i suggested earlier on, by christine, that this is not obligatory, maybe they said that by the by. christine, are you still with us?— are you still with us? yes, i am. just to reiterate _ are you still with us? yes, i am. just to reiterate ruscoe - are you still with us? yes, i am. just to reiterate ruscoe this - are you still with us? yes, i am. just to reiterate ruscoe this is i are you still with us? yes, i am. i just to reiterate ruscoe this is not obligatory, right? just to reiterate ruscoe this is not obligatory. right?— obligatory, right? absolutely not. just obligatory, right? absolutely not. just reassure _ obligatory, right? absolutely not. just reassure people. _ obligatory, right? absolutely not. just reassure people. it _ obligatory, right? absolutely not. just reassure people. it is - obligatory, right? absolutely not. just reassure people. it is not - obligatory, right? absolutely not. j just reassure people. it is not like our tv just reassure people. it is not like your tv licence. _ just reassure people. it is not like your tv licence, we _ just reassure people. it is not like your tv licence, we will _ just reassure people. it is not like your tv licence, we will come - just reassure people. it is not like your tv licence, we will come and find you _ your tv licence, we will come and find you if— your tv licence, we will come and find you if you _ your tv licence, we will come and find you if you don't _ your tv licence, we will come and find you if you don't do _ your tv licence, we will come and find you if you don't do it! - your tv licence, we will come and find you if you don't do it! we - find you if you don't do it! we are iioin to find you if you don't do it! we are going to have _ find you if you don't do it! we are going to have to _ find you if you don't do it! we are going to have to move _ find you if you don't do it! we are going to have to move on. - find you if you don't do it! we are going to have to move on. the i going to have to move on. the continuity and the majesty and the destiny of this programme is for

eternity, i will be here tomorrow as well, so make sure you do the oath, otherwise the beefeaters will get you. thanks very much for listening, thank you very much for watching. this is bbc news. the un pleads with rival military factions in sudan to stick to the latest ceasefire to prevent a humanitarian disaster. ukraine�*s military destroys a wave of russian missiles launched in an early morning attack as air raid sirens blared across the country. and nurses in england say they are holding their biggest strike yet, as nhs bosses warn patients to expect disruptions. hello, i�*m lucy gray. the united nations has warned the humanitarian situation in sudan is reaching breaking point as fighting enters its third week.

the un secretary—general has sent a special envoy to the region to