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"ow now hoping that ending that. we are now hoping that now we have an endorsed position in england that a similar offer can be put on the table for health workers in northern ireland to resolve the dispute that too. how in northern ireland to resolve the dispute that too.— in northern ireland to resolve the dispute that too. how do you think that government _ dispute that too. how do you think that government handled - dispute that too. how do you think that government handled this? - dispute that too. how do you think i that government handled this? about about a year ago unison under the nhs trade unions was about a year ago unison under the nhs trade union- nhs trade unions was trying to communicate _ nhs trade unions was trying to communicate with _ nhs trade unions was trying to communicate with the - nhs trade unions was trying to communicate with the then - nhs trade unions was trying to i communicate with the then prime minister and to urge and advise him that the pay review body process needed to be set aside and they need to negotiate directly with health unions because we could see this building, and they refused to listen. if you remember, went four months when we were actually in full dispute through the whole process of first morning of strike action to strike action having started in
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seven months of disruption for the public before they agreed to get into a room, so the hope is that the lesson can be working with trade unions can deliver acceptable results to trade union members but also ones that work for the majority of the workforce and the government. let's move forwards and hope the next pay round is not as mired in difficulty. ijust i just heard from ijust heard from somewhere on a picket line in kent from the union unite, and we also heard that the rcn might be re—balloting their members. do you have a message for the other nhs staff workers? i think it's important that all trade unions, we are all part of collective structures as well as individual trade unions, and that on our part, we need to acknowledge that it our part, we need to acknowledge thatitis our part, we need to acknowledge that it is not a unanimous position.
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i do struggle to remember a time when we have had unanimous positions on the staff side. it is very, very rare that you get so many unions in the same position, but the unions that had reject positions, they will need time to consider the outcome from today's staff council meeting. we have now got a clear majority position to accept, and in the light of that, some unions may consider whether they think strike action is the best way to go to secure and increase for their members. that is a matterfor individual increase for their members. that is a matter for individual unions. increase for their members. that is a matterfor individual unions. what matters for all of the unions and for my own in particular, having come out early with a very clear position to accept, is that we've got that endorsement from the staff council today. we've had confirmation from the secretary of state that the money can be implemented and we look to get that in pay packets as soon as we can.
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and this was notjust about pay, was it? what does this contract mean to your members? it is quite a significant change, isn't it? well, what's the subject of the vote that has happened today is the agreement to implement the lump sum to top up last year, so that is a lump sum that starts atjust over £1600 and goes up to over 3700, so thatis £1600 and goes up to over 3700, so that is the additional money to top up that is the additional money to top up for the 22 — 23 pay round. also, new pay rates which will start from the 1st of april, so that is a 5% increase of salary points, apart from at the lowest points, where an above 10% increase will be applied to bring people well over the real living wage at the bottom. i think what you are referring to is the non—pay aspects of the offer, where we got agreement that we will workjointly where we got agreement that we will work jointly with employers where we got agreement that we will workjointly with employers and with government on a range of different
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issues that are related or linked to pay, but notjust the annual pay uplift, so an important aspect of that for us was to get an agreement that for us was to get an agreement that we could work to review the way the pacesetting process itself works. i think what we've shown through this dispute is that the current pay review body processes not working and we need to look at why that is and how we can improve that. there are also some agreements there to look at making apprenticeships a real route in four people who are working in the health service at the moment, and a range of measures to support career progression for people at different stages through their work of the nhs. so there is a lot of work there to do, but the most immediate of thoseis to do, but the most immediate of those is making sure that we can confirm as quickly as possible when that lump sum and the new rates will
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be on people's pay packets. thank you very much forjoining us here on bbc news. let's go over to our health correspondent nick trickle. nick, big news that the pay deal has gone through. how significant a moment is this for the nhs? it is incredibly significant. we have had a rolling series of strikes since december. nurses have taken industrial action. physios and ambulance staff, combined with the interaction withjunior ambulance staff, combined with the interaction with junior doctors, it has led to more than half a million operations and appointments being cancelled. so what we have two date is not the end of that industrial action, because what has been agreed to date is separate to the british medical association's disputes with the government, which are still ongoing. but that does mean that most of that strike action we have seenin most of that strike action we have seen in the past few months by the
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staff nurses, physios and ambulance workers will come to an end. however, as you have been saying, some of the ia unions that voted on that deal did reject it, and they are continuing to say they will pursue industrial action. 0nly are continuing to say they will pursue industrial action. only one of those, chemical unite, currently has a mandate for strike action. they got a mandate for about 4000 of their members, which is well under 1% their members, which is well under i% of the nhs workforce. so they have got a mandate for strike action in some ambulance services and a few hospitals. but if the royal college of nursing wants to continue to take strike action, they've got to re—ballot their members. they said they will. we will probably get the results of that engine. but more importantly, they carry out a national ballot, which is different to how they have done it previously, which was a series of local workplace ballots, and that makes it harder to get a mandate. it has been dubbed an all or nothing move by the royal college of nursing in one
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last—ditch attempt to get ministers back to the negotiating table. but certainly, it looks like this has shifted the tone of the debate and the industrial dispute, and it seems certain we will see if strikes happening. it does feel like it. thanks for joining us from the newsroom, nick. in the last few minutes, the liberal democrat leader ed davey has spoken to the media while campaigning in hinckley. let's have a listen. we want to bring an end to the strikes. — we want to bring an end to the strikes, what we have really been a land that _ strikes, what we have really been a land that is— strikes, what we have really been a land that is the government have allowed — land that is the government have allowed this situation to start in the first— allowed this situation to start in the first place. for weeks and months. _ the first place. for weeks and months, they have failed to bring this to _ months, they have failed to bring this to an— months, they have failed to bring this to an end, and when we see the vacancies_ this to an end, and when we see the vacancies of— this to an end, and when we see the vacancies of nurses, they have 40,000 — vacancies of nurses, they have 40,000. when we see the real pay for nurses— 40,000. when we see the real pay for nurses declined, you can see that they do— nurses declined, you can see that they do deserve a fair deal. let's — they do deserve a fair deal. let's get _ they do deserve a fair deal. let's get live now to sirjulian hartley, the chief executive of the nhs providers association, which represents nhs trust. this was a
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very bitter dispute, sirjulian, wasn't it? are you relieved? we are relieved, and indeed, yes, it has been the most destructive period in terms of industrial action really in terms of industrial action really in the history of the nhs, and of course, it has had big effects and implications for health trusts have been able to work through all of the preparation, all of the managing those periods of industrial action, and of course, the impact on patient care in terms of waiting a long time for treatment as we try to eat into those back plans of care. and i have to say, the nhs has done an incrediblejob managing to say, the nhs has done an incredible job managing that period, given that we have seen around a 90% reduction in patients waiting over two micro years since the peak in september 2021, so we'd to welcome this, though we are not out of the woods yet, because we want to see all of those disputes resolved so that we can really focus on
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delivering for patients. you said this is the most destructive period in the history of the nhs. do you mean for unions or patients? well, i would say in terms of the level of industrial action and the consequences in terms of around 531,000 appointments, attendances, treatments that have been disrupted as a consequence of that whole period, and we've seen major impact in terms of lengthening times for patients to wait, that i would emphasise that the nhs has worked incredibly hard to rearrange those appointments and indeed to mitigate the impact of strike action, but we do want to see nhs colleagues and workforce come together to work together to see a workforce plan developed by the government that really does see a commitment to a fully funded plan that gives certainty about how we're going to
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recruit, retain and ensure that we have got the proper workforce needed to meet the challenges ahead. sounds like you're acting for a reset the unions. if so, how would that work to would you like to see going forwards? we need to make sure that we never again enter a period where we have this length of dispute in this level of disruption. we want to make sure that there is constant ongoing dialogue, that the great work of nhs staff is absolutely recognised, that there is a really strong focus on there is a really strong focus on the experience of staff in terms of the experience of staff in terms of the work that they do, day in, day out, the conditions that colleagues work in, the staffing levels in our nhs being improved, those shortage areas being addressed. so i though it really, we can ensure that we deliver for patients in a way that
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we hope to see the workforce described in the forthcoming plan. but this might not be the end of the disruption? but this might not be the end of the disru tion? ~ ., ., disruption? well, indeed, we wait to see obviously _ disruption? well, indeed, we wait to see obviously at _ disruption? well, indeed, we wait to see obviously at the _ disruption? well, indeed, we wait to see obviously at the moment, - disruption? well, indeed, we wait to see obviously at the moment, junior| see obviously at the moment, junior doctors in dialogue, we also await to see the next steps from some of those unions that have signalled they didn't vote for the offer, so obviously, we have to wait and see where that leaves us. but i think overall we obviously as trusts want to see an end to the industrial action overall, because what's crucial in any health care organisation is the way that staff come together, work together as a team. the nhs absolutely depends on the way that different professions come together to work to deliver for patients. but in orderfor that patients. but in order for that work to continue, what is your message for those groups holding out on this pay deal? ~ ., , ., ., deal? well, that is for them to decide in terms _ deal? well, that is for them to decide in terms of _ deal? well, that is for them to decide in terms of consulting l deal? well, that is for them to i decide in terms of consulting with their members on this. we want to see a resolution to the disputes
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because of the impact on patients, but trust leaders absolutely understand the challenges that staff have been through, and particularly the consequences of the cost of living challenges, and of course want to see a fair settlement for all. but we want to see that resolution quickly for all staff roots, because as i say, depends very much so in terms of the delivery for patients that or other staff are coming together to work together in their interests. julian hartley, chief executive of nhs chemical providers, thanks very much for your reaction to this pay deal we havejust much for your reaction to this pay deal we have just announced much for your reaction to this pay deal we havejust announced on bbc news. and a reminder of this breaking news. there is a new payday of hundreds of thousands of health service staff in england. the government will give all workers, everyone from nurses and parent there were paramedics to porters and cleaners, a 5% pay rise this year and they one—off payment for last year. members of unison, the gmb and the unions representing physios and midwives, are all in favour of the
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government has micro—plans, but there are objections to the deal from the royal college of nursing and unite unions. they have one they will continue to pursue strike action. unite is carrying out a series of local strikes this week. the rcn would need to hold another strike ballot of its members before it does so. the royal college of nursing is the largest nurses�* union, and the unite union represents tens of thousands of hospital workers. separately, junior doctors are still in their own dispute about pay stub that has not been resolved by this. and the health secretary is in talks with the british medical association to see if the two sides can agree a way forward in thejunior see if the two sides can agree a way forward in the junior doctors�* see if the two sides can agree a way forward in thejunior doctors�* pay dispute. the bma are asking for a 35% increase to make up for 15 years of below inflation wage increases. junior doctors have held to strike so far. mr barclay has described their pay claim as unaffordable. he has, of course, though, welcome to day�*s news and this agreement. you are watching bbc news.
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—— welcomed today because i can use. with shops shuttered, news of the death prompt a general strike across the west bank. soon, protests followed. here, palestinian teenagers throwing stones at israeli soldiers, who fired back tear gas. with a state of high alert, it�*s a reminder of how potent the issue of palestinian prisoners remains. some breaking news here in the uk... more than a million national health service staff in england will get a 5% pay rise after health unions he had backed the deal. ambulance workers, nurses and physios will also get a one sum of at least £1655. -- a also get a one sum of at least £1655. —— a one off some. the pay deal was signed off at a meeting between the government on 14 health unions representing all nhs staff apart from doctors and dentists.
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ministers said it was time to bring the strikes to an end. the health secretary steve barclay said he was pleased with the offer.— pleased with the offer. well, this is a aood pleased with the offer. well, this is a good day _ pleased with the offer. well, this is a good day for _ pleased with the offer. well, this is a good day for nhs _ pleased with the offer. well, this is a good day for nhs staff, - pleased with the offer. well, this is a good day for nhs staff, who | is a good day for nhs staff, who will benefit from this pay rise, an extra over £5,000 for a band the six nurse or paramedic or midwife, so it�*s a good day for nhs staff, but it�*s a good day for nhs staff, but it�*s also a good day for patients. it will allow us to move forwards, now the initial staff council has ratified this deal and it has been accepted by the majority of the nhs staff council, and we can now move forward together and focus on the patients, and make sure that staff get their pay rise sooner than would have been the case under the pay review body process.— have been the case under the pay review body process. some unions are not particularly _ review body process. some unions are not particularly happy _ review body process. some unions are not particularly happy about _ review body process. some unions are not particularly happy about this, - not particularly happy about this, meaning — not particularly happy about this, meaning strikes will probably keep going _ meaning strikes will probably keep going. when you get back round the negotiating table, or is this the final— negotiating table, or is this the final offer?— final offer? well, it is the final offer, final offer? well, it is the final offer. and _ final offer? well, it is the final offer. and it — final offer? well, it is the final offer, and it is _ final offer? well, it is the final offer, and it is important - final offer? well, it is the final offer, and it is important that l offer, and it is important that those unions recognise the collective decision. this was a decision taken by 14 health unions. they reached a majority decision,
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negotiated collectively will stop the rcn were at the negotiating table, and pat cullen recommended this deal to her own members, so it�*s important that everyone now respect the decision of the nhs staff counsel. it�*s an opportunity to now come together. there are further areas where we can work collaboratively in terms of some of the long pay issues. i�*m looking forward to working with trade union colleagues on those issues. it�*s a good day for nhs staff and patients, and an opportunity now to get that pay into staff�*s pay packets next month and for everyone to move forward together. let�*s cross now to our political correspondent ian watson at westminster. a good day for nhs staff, according to steve barclay. but is it a good day for the government, given that it has taken this long to get a? the government, given that it has taken this long to get a?— this long to get a? the government has micro-opponents _ this long to get a? the government has micro-opponents are _ this long to get a? the government has micro-opponents are saying - this long to get a? the government has micro-opponents are saying it. has micro—opponents are saying it has micro—opponents are saying it has taken months and months to get here and they should have addressed this issue of pay in the nhs a lot sooner. the government say this is good for patients as well as staff,
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but that is not really the whole story, because there are 14 unions involved in today�*s discussions, and overall, certainly, they accepted this pay offer of 5% for the current year, and one—off payments covering last year. two unions are holding out. the rcn, which represents nurses, around 500,000 of them, rejected the pay offer, and again voted against that pay offer at today�*s meeting. in the last few minutes, they have said that they do intend to go ahead with balloting their members for further strike action later this month. the strikes would then run, if the dispute is not settled, from june until december this year. they are also calling for a meeting and further negotiations on an improved offer from the health secretary, that we were hearing from there, steve barclay. i don�*t know what his response will be to that, but he has certainly made it very clear that he believes this is the final offer to trade unions, and as the majority have now signed up to that other, it
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looks as though he is likely to dig his heels in. i think this calculation will be that if he gets all nhs staff, irrespective of whether they voted for or against this, this same offer, those unions, two of them in particular, that are considering continuing strike action, they might think, is this really worth it, since they have seen their pay go up. but that is a big risk to take, and there is potentially long lasting strike action coming from the nurses. the rcn is holding another ballot, and it looks as if this will be a national ballot. a little bit harder, i guess, to get a strike mandate?— harder, i guess, to get a strike mandate? ., �* , , , harder, i guess, to get a strike mandate? ., �*, , , mandate? that's right, because some areas were against _ mandate? that's right, because some areas were against going _ mandate? that's right, because some areas were against going out - mandate? that's right, because some areas were against going out on - areas were against going out on strike and some voting very clearly in favour of it, and they went ahead in favour of it, and they went ahead in those areas. this is taking place across the whole of england this next national ballot. the consequence for the government of course, if people vote in favour of strike action, it is going to be
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more widespread than before. action will escalate putting more pressure on health service, and the government saying it will put more pressure at risk. but if it becomes more difficult for the union, the rcn, to achieve a positive result in that ballot, a mandate for further strike action, then of course, in effect, although they are still in dispute and have technically rejected this deal, they would not be doing anything about it. thank you very much indeed, ian. let�*s stay with industrial action taking place in the uk. the governor has again stressed it has made a good pay offer to teachers, as thousands of members of the national education union in england staged another strike today. louisa pilbeam is outside the department of education tell us more about this strike action happening today. it is one of the series happening, isn�*t it? yes, well the teachers that were
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here, thousands of them, early at the department for education, have moved on to downing street, where they have made the demand is clear. they want an above inflation pay rise. inflation currently sets a10.1%, but the government have actually given them an offer which they say is fair and reasonable. that offer includes a £1000 one—off payment for this school year, and then from september, it would be a 4.5 on average pay rise. but teachers had turned that down, hence the action today and hence future action, because talks between the two sides have completely broken down, and from the government�*s point of view, they have actually withdrawn that original offer. there was an offer ruth perry killed herself after an 0fsted report said her school was
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the lowest possible rating, so there was a sensitive _ the lowest possible rating, so there was a sensitive moment _ the lowest possible rating, so ieii” was a sensitive moment there, and we were speaking to teachers who said they cannot afford to pay their bills, that they are struggling, and that in theirjobs, they have a huge level of responsibility to teach the future generations. as i said, talks have completely broken down here between the teachers and the government, so there will be more strike action involving the four main education unions. thank you very much indeed. with just a few days to go to the coronation, princess anne has dismissed calls for a slimmed down monarchy, saying it doesn�*t sound like a good idea to her. in an interview with canada�*s cbc, she says the royal family is to discuss how it will stay relevant, but insists the monarchy still has a lot to offer the country. here is our royal correspondent nicholas witchell. in the potteries and other places in the souvenir business, they have been gearing up for this moment for
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months. turning out the mugs, plates, and a host of other goods which commemorate the coronation. it all meansjobs and which commemorate the coronation. it all means jobs and a significant boost for trade. 0n the mall, the first campers have already pitched their tents to be assured of the best view. i their tents to be assured of the best view— their tents to be assured of the best view. ., _, ., , , best view. i have come to support kin: best view. i have come to support king charles _ best view. i have come to support king charles and _ best view. i have come to support king charles and hopefully - best view. i have come to support king charles and hopefully get - best view. i have come to support king charles and hopefully get to | king charles and hopefully get to see him on the balcony. that�*s my main objective. see him on the balcony. that's my main objective.— see him on the balcony. that's my main objective. main ob'ective. these are some of the main objective. these are some of the robes which _ main objective. these are some of the robes which will _ main objective. these are some of the robes which will be _ main objective. these are some of the robes which will be worn - main objective. these are some of the robes which will be worn at. main objective. these are some of| the robes which will be worn at the most solemn moments of the coronation. 0n the left, the supertunica, one at the moment of crowning. and the imperial mantle, a cloth of gold, which was one at the crowning of george first. so, a significant moment for the monarchy and the monarchy. the king�*s sister, princess anne, has been reflecting on canadian television, first about the kind of king charles will be. well, you know what you�*re getting, because he�*s been practising for a bit! and i think he will change. he
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is committed to his own level of service, and that will remain true. did she think the monarchy could remain relevant in today�*s�*s world? it is a moment where you need to have that discussion, but i would just underline that the monarchy provides, with the constitution, a degree of long—term stability that is actually quite hard to come by any other way. we as a family see ourselves is there to support that role. what we do, we hope, contributes to the monarchy. so what about a slimmed _ contributes to the monarchy. so what about a slimmed down _ contributes to the monarchy. so what about a slimmed down monarchy, - contributes to the monarchy. so what. about a slimmed down monarchy, with fewer working royal? weill. about a slimmed down monarchy, with fewer working royal?— fewer working royal? well, i think these slimmed _ fewer working royal? well, i think these slimmed down _ fewer working royal? well, i think these slimmed down was - fewer working royal? well, i think these slimmed down was said - fewer working royal? well, i think these slimmed down was said in l fewer working royal? well, i think these slimmed down was said in a fewer working royal? well, i think- these slimmed down was said in a day when there were a few more people around to make that seem like a justified comment! the world changes a bit. it changes a bit. i mean, it doesn't it changes a bit. i mean, it doesn�*t sound like a good idea from where i am sitting. it has been nearly eight months
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since the crown passed to charles at the moment of his mother�*s death. his coronation will be a moment of intense international focus, his coronation will be a moment of intense internationalfocus, both on him and the centuries old that he heads. —— the centuries—old institution that he heads. let�*s now look at some pictures that have come into us here at the bbc, incredible footage we have got of a bear. this is a moment when a school head teacher in the us had a run in with a bare! look at this. 0ops! there he is! hejumps out of that trash can, i think they call it. principaljames marsh was standing next to the rubbish dumpster at the elementary school in west virginia when the creature threw itself up and out of the rubbish container. both the bear in the head teacher ran away, as you saw, scuttling off into the wooded area. the principal told a local broadcaster... there it is again! he said it let out a pretty loud roar. ithink is again! he said it let out a pretty loud roar. i think both of us were equally surprised. he went on
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to say that the students at the school wanted to see it, he went on to show it to them and they found it hilarious! i don�*t blame them. i would have found that funny too. before we go, let�*s direct you to our website, before we go, let�*s direct you to ourwebsite, because before we go, let�*s direct you to our website, because there are so much to see, read and learned there, and as you can imagine, the top story today is that nhs pay deal, which has now been signed off for! million staff, and if you want the very latest, a health correspondent has written the story up with all the details. important to point out that not every health union has accepted the deal, and the rcn, the royal college of nursing, is due to ballot members in the coming weeks and we will be getting that result at some point in june. also, if we can go back to the front page, please, i can show you the coronation of king charles iii, a special area that we have dedicated to the coronation, because we love a coronation here on the bbc, and we are going all out. all the latest information on what is
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happening this weekend and where you can read about it. stay with us on the bbc. hello. the rest of the day, i don�*t think there will be much change in our weather. think there will be much change in ourweather. for think there will be much change in our weather. for most of us, a dry day, but actually a fair amount of cloud around. having said that, there are a couple of places where it has so far been really sunny and pleasant, particularly in the south—west of the country. admittedly, we have high pressure over us, but high pressure doesn�*t always mean sunshine, and in fact, farfrom it. you can see how extensive the cloud is across some parts of the country. we have had big breaks in cornwall, devon, parts of wales and also earlier around east anglia, but here too the clouds have been developing. also, quite a spread and the temperatures. 0nly have been developing. also, quite a spread and the temperatures. only i! spread and the temperatures. only 11 degrees in newcastle, but out towards the west, temperatures hit the high teens, early to middle
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afternoon. also worthy of note are the pollen levels, pretty high across the bulk of the country, england, wales and northern ireland. tonight, the weather forecast is pretty straightforward. broadly speaking, across the southern half of the uk, lengthy clear spells. further north, cloudier, more splits and spots of rain, and quite a contrast of the temperatures. where clear sky clear in east tomorrow, the thicker sky will be in northern ireland and scotland, and at times, some rain, may be from glasgow into central scotland in the western isles. elsewhere, sunny spells, and a decent date. the temperature should be a little bit higher in newcastle can be a little bit higher in newcastle too, up to 15, for the south around 17 expected in cardiff. 0n south around 17 expected in cardiff. on thursday, changes are afoot. we will see whether front�*s gradually moving in off the atlantic. that spells wet weather for south—western
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areas. quite an easterly breeze, and for some of us, it will be chili close to the north sea coast, some on the aberdeenshire coastline, maybe not even making double figures. i! in newcastle, and the higher temperatures further south. into the weekend, that rather mixmag continues with weather system sweeping in, but! continues with weather system sweeping in, but i think it will be in the form of showers rather than steady rain, so our apps are likely to update. wherever you see a symbol with sunny spells, that is likely to chop and change through the day and day by day.
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next pay round is not as mired in difficulty.
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