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live from london, this is bbc news. more than a million nhs staff england are to get a 596 pay rise after health unions backed the government deal. here the uk, lucy b, the nurse accused of murdering seven babies and trying to kill ten others, gives evidence for the first time her trial. the man often called the godfather of artificial intelligence has quit his job at google and told the bbc why he did it. and king charles and queen camilla visit the palace of westminster head of the coronation this weekend.
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hello and welcome to the programme. we start with a big story in the uk. more thani million national health service staff in england will get a 5% pay rise after health unions here backed the deal. ambulance workers, nurses and physios will also get a one—off sum of at least £1655. but the pay deal was signed up at a meeting between the government and 1a health unions, representing all nhs staff above doctors and dentists. one minister said it was time to bring the strikes to an end. the uk health secretary steve barclay said he was pleased with the this is a good day for nhs staff who will benefit from this pay rise, an extra will benefit from this pay rise, an extr ., :: :: :: ., ., , will benefit from this pay rise, an extr ., 11:11: ., ., , ., extra over £5,000 for a ban six and is a paramedical — extra over £5,000 for a ban six and is a paramedical midwife, _ extra over £5,000 for a ban six and is a paramedical midwife, so - extra over £5,000 for a ban six and is a paramedical midwife, so it's - extra over £5,000 for a ban six and is a paramedical midwife, so it's a l is a paramedical midwife, so it's a good day for nhs staff. this is also a good day for patients. it will allow us to move forward now that the initial staff counsel has ratified this deal, and it has been accepted by the majority
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of the staff council, we move forward together, focus on the patients and also make sure the staff get their pay rise sooner than would have been the case in the pay review body process. some unions are not particularly happy— some unions are not particularly happy about this, which means strikes — happy about this, which means strikes will probably keep going. when _ strikes will probably keep going. when you get back around the negotiating table, or is this the final— negotiating table, or is this the final offer? well, it is the final offer, and it's important there's unions recognise the collective decision. this was a decision taken by m health unions. it was a majority decision, negotiated collectively. the rcn were at the negotiating table, and indeed, pat colin recommended this deal is her own members, so it's important that everyone now respects the decision of the nhs staff council. it's an opportunity to now come together. there are further areas where we can work collaboratively in terms of some of the long pay issues we discussed during the negotiations, but i look forward to working with trade union colleagues on those issues. it is a good day for trade
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nhs staff, and patience, a good opportunity to get that pay into their pay packets next month and for everyone to move forward together. the national health officer at unite union, who are rejecting a tougher, spoke to us from the picket line in kent. inflation is running at 13.4% at the moment, — inflation is running at 13.4% at the moment, so— inflation is running at 13.4% at the moment, so this actually represents a pay— moment, so this actually represents a pay cut, _ moment, so this actually represents a pay cut, not a pay rise, for our members. — a pay cut, not a pay rise, for our members. a_ a pay cut, not a pay rise, for our members, a big pay cut for our members _ members, a big pay cut for our members. how unions were members do not think_ members. how unions were members do not think this _ members. how unions were members do not think this deal is good enough. we did _ not think this deal is good enough. we did not— not think this deal is good enough. we did not say that our members should _ we did not say that our members should accept or reject the deal, we said it _ should accept or reject the deal, we said it was — should accept or reject the deal, we said it was their pay, their vote, their— said it was their pay, their vote, their choice~ _ said it was their pay, their vote, their choice. they chose to reject this pay— their choice. they chose to reject this pay offer, so we are going to respect _ this pay offer, so we are going to respect the — this pay offer, so we are going to respect the will of our members stop we have _ respect the will of our members stop we have a _ respect the will of our members stop we have a talk, we have to reopen negotiations, and we have got to see where _ negotiations, and we have got to see where leads us. because we have got to save _ where leads us. because we have got to save our— where leads us. because we have got to save our nhs. our nhs has been run into— to save our nhs. our nhs has been run into the — to save our nhs. our nhs has been run into the ground over the last 13 years—
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run into the ground over the last 13 years from — run into the ground over the last 13 years from a — run into the ground over the last 13 years from a lack of investment, a lack years from a lack of investment, a tack of— years from a lack of investment, a lack of workforce. this government is a byword — lack of workforce. this government is a byword for inaction, laziness and mismanaging the economy. something has to give. nhs workers are hot— something has to give. nhs workers are not going to be sacrificed, and we need _ are not going to be sacrificed, and we need to— are not going to be sacrificed, and we need to make sure we sit down, have _ we need to make sure we sit down, have proper— we need to make sure we sit down, have proper talks, and save our nhs. sara gorton. — have proper talks, and save our nhs. sara gorton, head of health at the unison union, explains why they were one of the unions that accepted the deal. the reason we recommended it to members was that on balance, it was less risky and a better way of getting more money in pockets and in pay packets sooner than waiting for the pay review body process to run out, which, if you remember, in previous years, had taken until the summer to even indicate what the annual pay rise was going to be. so we have a clear majority position to
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accept. as well as being head of health at unison, i am chair of the nhs trade unions. what you saw today... are brave and remarkable military and civilian personnel who have delivered this effort. —— and remarkable personnel. operations at the air base ended in april and our efforts are now focused on port sudan, helping british nationals there who are aiming to leave sudan. in the 1st of may, the uk evacuated 144 people on flights from port sudan. in addition, we helped british nationals to leave in the us navy ship brunswick on a —— one april 30th. navy ship brunswick on a —— one april30th. i navy ship brunswick on a —— one april 30th. i would like to express thanks to our allies in the region for their help. hms lancaster is supporting the evacuation efforts from port sudan, foreign office staff who remain are helping british nationals to leave the country, signposting options for departure.
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british nationals in port sudan who require support should visit the with our team without delay. but it is ending the violence that remains essential. the prime minister, ministerial colleagues and i continue to coordinate urgently with our international partners to support these efforts. i have just returned from nairobi, where i have had productive conversations with the president of canyon, the chairperson of the african union, and the former sudanese prime minister, amongst others. we must not allow ourselves to forget that the appalling violence in sudan, wrought by these two generals and their forces, wrought by these two generals and theirforces, is having a devastating impact on civilians across the country, with increasing impact for sudan's neighbours. the most vulnerable people in sudan are bearing the brunt of the conflict. aid operations are now at a standstill. even tarian supplies have been looted in and relief
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workers have been targeted in attacks. at least five aid workers have been killed, including other health staff. the warring factions must desist from violence so that aid can reach those who desperately need it. the uk will continue to stand with the united nations, who are leading the international humanitarian response. i commend this statement to the house. shadow minister. thank— shadow minister. thank you, - shadow minister. thank you, mr. shadow minister. - thank you, mr speaker, shadow minister. _ thank you, mr speaker, and i thank the ministerfor thank you, mr speaker, and i thank the minister for advanced sight of his statement. it is very welcome to hear that so many brits have been successfully evacuated. let me put on record label's thanks to our dedicated services and fcd oh personnel who have worked round the clock to make it happen. however, we remain concerned for british residents who still remain in the country, so i asked the minister what assessment the minister has made of the number of nationals and residents still in sudan, and what steps he is taking to make sure they can be evacuated safely and quickly? in the coming days and weeks, it is right we look at how decisions have
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been made during this crisis and ensure that the right lessons have been learned. we know that communications with british nationals have been patchy, that our evacuation started later than many of our allies, and that the government was slow to support british residents. my constituent and her children had to make their own way to the border. so can the minister explain why the beginning of the evacuation was so much lower than our allies' of the evacuation was so much lower than our allies�*? do seefeel it was wise to evacuate our officials before our nationals and residents? i note the international development head was left behind, not the ambassador. and does he feel the lessons of afghanistan have been learnt? mr speaker, so far, ministers have so far spoken about this crisis with regards to brits stuck in this country, and rightly so. however, we have heard little about uk support for the sudanese people themselves his dreams of a peaceful and democratic future are currently being shattered by the fighting. can he say more in his commitment to support the people of sudan should the fighting continued? how will the uk maintain a
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meaningful presence in the country, and what assessment has been made of aid programmes? does he acknowledge the impact made of cuts by his government to the bilateral aid sudan receives, even before the current crisis began? 15 million in sudan were reliant on humanitarian assistance. sadly these figures are only going to increase. what conversations is he having with partners to secure the safety of humanitarian workers, their premises and assets, so life—saving aid can continue? as the un secretary—general antonio gutierrez one, the power struggle is not only putting sudan�*s future at risk, but also lighting a fuse that could detonate across borders, causing immense suffering for years, yet official development assistance to the region are set to face further cuts this year even as sudanese nationals are already fleeing across borders in their tens of thousands. so can the minister please set out whether the government plans to allocate additional humanitarian support to address this crisis this year, and what assessment has the
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government made to the risk of the security of port sudan, given its crucial role in sudan�*s economy and humanitarian response, and providing an evacuation route? finally as he will know, the rs app is like a military power is partly sustained illicit cross—border trade, which is taken hundreds of millions out of sudan�*s formal economy and will continue to bankroll the violence. how will the government seek to crackdown on illicit trade gimmick does he share my concern at the turn away from africa in british foreign and development policy has vacated space which malign actors have sought to exploit? it�*s right that the government�*s this policy has been to secure the safety of as many uk nationals as possible, but we must not allow the world�*s games to turn away from sudan once the airlift had ended. —— the world�*s gaze. i think the shadow development minister very much for her comments at the beginning, and recognise that she is asking questions which require an answer. i noted eight of them, but i miss any of them out, i will certainly like to hear afterwards. she asks first of all
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about the efficacy of the evacuation, and i would say to her, along with the americans, we were among the first to pull our own diplomatic staff out of the country, which we did because the situation was extraordinarily dangerous. as i have mentioned before in the house, the embassy and the residences were caught between the two lines, and therefore there was an incredibly dangerous situation. we took the decision, the prime minister took the decision, that of cobra, 3:15am on that saturday morning, that it was essential that we took our staff out, that�*s what we did. it was a very complex operation, but throughout the planning for that, we were also planning to bring out our own citizens, and that operation, i would submit, has been extremely successfully accomplished. she asked me about communications with british citizens, and she�*s right. it�*s extremely difficult, and one day when we are trying to communicate, there was only 2% internet
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availability. she asks about the speed of the evacuation. we of course had more citizens there to evacuate them the french and germans, who started evacuating their citizens before we did, but there was a crisis centre set up immediately in the foreign office, working across government, and i would submit to the house that the evacuation has been extremely successful. she asked if lessons have been learnt from afghanistan. mr speaker, they most certainly have, but of course, this situation was very different from afghanistan. we didn�*t control the ground, there was not a permissive environment, we did not have, as we had in afghanistan, the permission for the taliban to take people out. so the positions are not analogous. she askedif positions are not analogous. she asked if we would learn lessons from the evacuation. of course, we will look very carefully at every decision that was made and make sure that everything possible is learnt from it. she asked about the diplomatic presence. there is a diplomatic presence. there is a diplomatic presence. there is a diplomatic presence at the border
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with egypt, and also at the border with egypt, and also at the border with ethiopian, and she will know that the british ambassador, the excellent british ambassador to khartoum, is now in addis ababa. she asks about the humanitarian spend. i should make it clear that we are able on humanitarian spend to exercise a bit of flexibility, as we always must, and for example, i have announced last thursday that next year, we will spend around 1000 million pounds, or allocate 1000 million pounds, or allocate 1000 million pounds, or allocate 1000 million pounds, to meet humanitarian difficulties or disasters. she quoted the secretary general antonia gutierrez. he is absolutely right and what he has said, and one of the encouraging thing is we are seeing is that the african union and united nations are working in perfect harmony, but delivering precisely the same message, that there must be a ceasefire, these generals must lay down their arms and return their
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troops to barracks. thank you, mr speaker. can i welcome the quite incredible evacuation effort to get so many out, and also from so many of our allied countries? can i also think the sudanese government, it will have played a large role in helping us get these people out? i would also like to thank the ambassador giles, who has come under a great deal of media attention and attacks over the last couple of days, but here over the weekend help tirelessly to work on cases i raised, particularly of british nationals who had been taken hostage. i am concerned that the rs f�*s actions are a categorical reaction of the peaceful transition towards democratic rule in away from military rule. what we meaningfully have that we can use to bring to bear to get them back within this process? because i am struggling to see why, having made this action, having decided they do not support legal transition, they would now come back into the fold and be interested in any sort of transition to democracy. i also asked the minister, i am concerned, mps across
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this house will have this morning received into their inbox a briefing from the rsf press office. this is not some shoddily pulled together briefing but a highly professional, clearly well financed operation, so can the minister please kindly advise, who do we believe is funding this rsf press office, and will be please make representation to them to make sure no british firms are involved? but if it is our allies, that they step back and do not fund the rsf in this way? well, i thank the chair of the select committee for her comments. i thank her particularly for the point that she made about the ambassador, our ambassador, who has worked ceaselessly throughout this crisis and with very great effect. in respect of her final point, i will look into the issue of malign public relations, and will report back on that matter. in terms of the process for ceasefire and peace, i want to
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draw her attention to the statement by formerformer prime draw her attention to the statement by former former prime minister this morning, which we strongly welcome where he made it clear that there will be a global emergency unless this halted immediately, where he demanded an immediate and monitor rubble and permanent ceasefire, and where he said that we need permanent, reliable and secure humanitarian corridors. he mentioned in particular that a the requirements of a transition to democracy and the inclusion of a voice of sudanese civilians in all forums in securing peace. the international community, african union, united nations, everyone, should support the call by the former prime minister of sudan on all four of those points, because they are absolutely essential if we are to stop this growing and dreadful crisis.
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thank you, mr deputy speaker, and can i thank the ministerfor thank you, mr deputy speaker, and can i thank the minister for advance sight of his statement? can i also echo the thanks that men and women of the armed forces and other staff involved in the evacuations of uk nationals, as well as those from other countries who immediately stepped up to the plate to evacuate uk citizens along with their own nationals at the start of this escalation of the conflict. yet, mr deputy speaker, this is developing into a full—blown humanitarian crisis with hundreds of thousands of people being displaced with acute food, water and medicinal shortages occurring, and likely to get worse. agencies on the ground who have humanitarian please programmes will need to pivot quickly. so what assistance is the uk government giving to those individual agencies. can the minister give us some details? i didn�*t hear a response
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from the labourfront details? i didn�*t hear a response from the labour front bench about how many uk nationals the government estimate are still in sudan. i wonder could he give us the estimate? i imagine they must have one. the minister said there were more uk citizens in sudan than in other nations. does that not mean that the emphasis should have been and being better prepared and better resourced to move more quickly than those nations that he is talking about? and as violence erupts in darfur, what actions has he agreed with international partners to protect international civilians? finally, mr deputy speaker, the ministerfor finally, mr deputy speaker, the minister for africa finally, mr deputy speaker, the ministerfor africa said finally, mr deputy speaker, the minister for africa said on tv last night that are no safe and legal routes for refugees from sudan. the foreign secretary promised last week that detail would be coming forward shortly stop can he give us that detail now and tell us when there is safe and legal routes will be in place? well, i think the honourable gentleman for his comments, and in
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particular, his comments about the work of the armed forces, which as he says, was absolutely outstanding. he asks about how we elevate our humanitarian response to this crisis. i have to tell him that more than ten, i said in my statement five humanitarian workers, but if you include the wider definition of humanitarian workers, it is over ten have been murdered during the course of this conflict. when humanitarian work to take place, these corridors that the prime minister has called for to operate, there must be a ceasefire, therefore all our efforts are addressed to that. we are working closely with all the humanitarian agencies through the united nations, i guard and the african union to try and secure that. he asked me for an estimate of those who are left, and it is not possible to be precise about that. he will have seen the figures of those who have been evacuated by the royal air force and those who have
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gone from port sudan by sea, but i would say to him that there is no question that those in khartoum, which is where the predominant number worth, will have known about the evacuation and will have been able to go to the airport, so we believe that it is inconceivable that people didn�*t know about this and we think that most of them are out. and finally, he asked me about safe and legal routes. when the prime estimate is very comprehensive statement to the house about how we would stop these boats, these poor people who are coming across the busiest sea lane in the world, putting themselves into the hands of the modern day equivalent of the slave trader, he set out a whole range of measures including that he would introduce in due course safe and legal routes, and that is the answer to his question. thank you, mr deputy speaker. is there any evidence that the wagner
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group�*s links with the rapid support forces have anything to do with the uprising, bearing in mind that a tension of —— attention of government on the ukraine crisis has been taken away by this crisis? when does he agree that if we don�*t wish to see a flood of refugees coming into western europe, such humanitarian aid as we gear has been focused on those surrounding countries nearer to where the dell with this crisis is playing out. he is entirely right on that final point. i have nothing that i can say about the work of russia and wagner in sudan, but i can assure him our attention has not been taken off the wagner group at any point. thank you, mr deputy speaker foster my citrih's _ thank you, mr deputy speaker foster my citrin's father is stuck in sudah _ my citrin's father is stuck in sudah he _ my citrin's father is stuck in sudan. he was refused at the airport
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after spending three days trying to -et after spending three days trying to get there, and despite his wife and daughter— get there, and despite his wife and daughter with uk passports getting on the _ daughter with uk passports getting on the flight, another constituent's wife is _ on the flight, another constituent's wife is also — on the flight, another constituent's wife is also trapped there alone, and six _ wife is also trapped there alone, and six months pregnant. both of them _ and six months pregnant. both of them were — and six months pregnant. both of them were in the process of getting their uk_ them were in the process of getting their uk citizenship sorted out before — their uk citizenship sorted out before this conflict happen. now, they are — before this conflict happen. now, they are running out of food and water— they are running out of food and water and — they are running out of food and water and desperate as fighting is beginning again. how can this heavily— beginning again. how can this heavily pregnant woman and elderly man make _ heavily pregnant woman and elderly man make it out in safety? can i ask the mihister— man make it out in safety? can i ask the minister to commit to doing all he can_ the minister to commit to doing all he canto _ the minister to commit to doing all he can to help my constituents' family— he can to help my constituents' family members get back to a place of safety— family members get back to a place of safety and reunite this family? ithink— of safety and reunite this family? ithihk i_ of safety and reunite this family? ithihk i am — of safety and reunite this family? i think i am right in saying that the honourable lady has raised the specific case with the foreign office, and i will undertake to make sure that efforts are renewed. i have to tell her that the answer to her question, their underlying question, is that an international
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ceasefire is absolutely essential. what actions are the neighbouring states taking to make provision for the refugees? is on a possible up—to—date statements on how big a problem we think that is, given the current state? well, the problem, if there is not a ceasefire, the problem will be enormous, and i will tell him that the head of the un agency is in the region and is looking a precise of theissues region and is looking a precise of the issues he raises, and i will keep my right honourable friend in the house informed of the answer to that question as it develops. studio: the uk foreign and development minister there, answering questions about the evacuation of uk nationals out of sudan as the ongoing conflict rumbles on. we can talk to our correspondence in westminster, who has listened in on that. we were
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hoping on some information regarding numbers of people evacuated. he did not deliver on that, certainly defended the uk�*s evacuation efforts, didn�*t he? yes, he did, and there have been some numbers, around 3200 evacuated, and the others are made up of dependents, other nationals evacuated by the uk, and interestingly, one number we did get a little earlier and the house of commons was the foreign secretary james cleverley. he was asked about the situation, which has caused a lot of concern over the recent days, the end of last week on the weekend here in the uk, which was doctors from sudan who work for the national health service here, who were back in sudan when all this started, who were refused or couldn�*t get on the original evacuation flights because they were not uk citizens. the foreign secretary did say that 22 out of 24 identified doctors had now
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been brought out by the uk, and had gone on to it later evacuation flights. also, as you are saying, both of their with the african minister and the foreign secretary defending the uk evacuation efforts, saying it had brought out the largest number of foreign nationals evenif largest number of foreign nationals even if it had started slightly later than some others. he also says there was a uk diplomatic presence on the border of egypt, and that the ambassador also remained in the region. yes, that is the uk ambassador who was in khartoum, who was outside the country when this all began and is now in ethiopia, monitoring things from there. those diplomatic presences are to help people going through the borders, and also port sudan as the other exit. through the foreign secretary james cleverley, he earlier was asked about the assistance to those in sudan and indicated that the uk would be
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increasing assistance to sudan. no more details about what that might involve, how much or when. he talked about the uk working through or with partners like un agencies to deliver help, and were specifically asked about people in sudan. we must leave it there. stay with us on bbc news for all the latest. over the next few days, a big weekend coming up. in the short term, the weather is relatively quiet, dry for most of us, and actually, tomorrow, bright to come from many parts of the uk, but not absolutely everywhere. at the moment, a cloudy height over us. their bright cloud there across more northern and some central areas, round coastal areas, and in particular in the south—west, it has not been too bad at all, some prolonged spells of sunshine. through this evening and overnight, it is more central and southern parts of the uk that get the clear spells. it also turned chilly in some areas. in norwich, two degrees,
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four and hull, some areas. in norwich, two degrees, fourand hull, but some areas. in norwich, two degrees, four and hull, but out towards the less, a little milder and thicker cloud, 9 degrees, for instance, in belfast this thing on wednesday. on wednesday, i think broadly speaking it is the northern half of the uk that will be cloudy most of the time, even some rain there in western parts and central areas of scotland too. the best of the weather out towards the west and the south—west. this is where higher temperatures will be 17—18 c. not bad on the north sea coast, newcastle, around 15. the change occurs on thursday. we see a weather front moving in from the south—west, initially in the morning bringing rain to south—western areas, cornwall, devon, somerset, perhaps into wales and the midlands too during the afternoon. but elsewhere, it should be dry. there will be an easterly breeze, meaning once again quite chilly in places like newcastle and aberdeen. high temperatures will be further south. we will skip now to the weekend, which of course is a very important
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one. low pressure, weatherfront after weather front, one. low pressure, weatherfront after weatherfront, and one. low pressure, weatherfront after weather front, and plenty one. low pressure, weatherfront after weatherfront, and plenty of heavy showers, and the risk of downpours, yes, almost any day, that it is going to be tricky at least at this stage to forecast when the showers will occur. they will be around, no doubt, and if you downpours can be in, but the best advice is just to downpours can be in, but the best advice isjust to be prepared for the showers, because they won�*t occur everywhere. there will be sunny spells, and the weather icons on the website, and on our apps, will change from day to day, because thatis will change from day to day, because that is the nature of shower forecasting. that�*s it from me. goodbye.
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