coral trout where m countries were coral trout is monarch were invited to buckingham palace. it is a little bit dark. the prince of wales, princess kate is there, the duke and duchess of edinburgh, prince hassan, too. a0 attendees, including the british prime minister. rishi sunak had quite a busy morning, meeting with the australian prime minister and the new zealand prime minister, as well. you can see the entering here in the drawing room, then a drinks reception in the music room, followed by lunch in the blue drawing room. iwilljust followed by lunch in the blue drawing room. i willjust post a let that ambulance could buy. very noisy. lots of central london is shutdown to traffic but of course emergency traffic allowed through. sarah campbell, you are seeing these

pictures were the first time. what a day the king has had so far. yes. day the king has had so far. yes, busy day- — day the king has had so far. yes, busy day- the — day the king has had so far. yes, busy day- the day _ day the king has had so far. yes, busy day. the day before - day the king has had so far. ye: busy day. the day before the coronation, arguably the biggest they have his life, he might want to take it easy, but of course he doesn't have that option. there are 100 heads of state will be at his coronation tomorrow. they are all arriving in london today. the princess of wales is there, catherine. there was a special lunch held in buckingham palace. this was a lunch for the realm leaders stand to play. the king, the head of state in the uk, but also 1a other realms around the world. amongst them, the australian prime minister, new zealand prime minister. rishi sunak, as well. a busy day for him, as well. that is sophie, the new

duchess of edinburgh. the duke of edinburgh there are, as well. this is part of the day of meetings essentially, so after this there will be a commonwealth meeting. interesting to see the siblings are talking, prince edward and princess anne. �* ., . ~ ., talking, prince edward and princess anne. �* ., ., ., ~' anne. before getting back to work. we have been _ anne. before getting back to work. we have been talking _ anne. before getting back to work. we have been talking about - anne. before getting back to work. we have been talking about this i we have been talking about this slimmed down monarchy. what is meant in the sense is the duke and duchess of edinburgh, sophie and edward, but also the princess royal had come to deplore —— have come to the fore. we have fewer senior roles because prince harry and megan have stepped back, also prince andrew as well. i think we will see a lot of the work involves over the next three days.

will we see them on the balcony? there is a lot of speculation over who is in and he is out. the days of say 30 or a0 members on the balcony are gone, but how slimmed down we will say to parents. there is the option to have more than one balcony appearance, as there was a 1953. we might see one with just the king and the queen, maybe prince william and his family, maybe the siblings as well of king charles. that is one of the guessing games we have for tomorrow. these are pictures of the mall, of course. i was there last week when they were putting those flags up, it was really quite an extraordinary operation. these are live pictures. there is quite a high police presence there at the moment, it looks like police outriders,

which normally means something is going on. he which normally means something is auoin on. . ., going on. he alerted me earlier today because _ going on. he alerted me earlier today because the _ going on. he alerted me earlier today because the outriders - going on. he alerted me earlier today because the outriders are right outside the abbey and he said any moment now we could possibly see someone. it is any moment now we could possibly see someone. , . , ., any moment now we could possibly see someone. , . ., . someone. it is always a clue when the roads gets _ someone. it is always a clue when the roads gets closed _ someone. it is always a clue when the roads gets closed off, - someone. it is always a clue when the roads gets closed off, the - the roads gets closed off, the whistle start and when you see a lot of blue lights and posh cars. ishilmen of blue lights and posh cars. when ou talk of blue lights and posh cars. when you talk about _ of blue lights and posh cars. when you talk about the _ of blue lights and posh cars. when you talk about the role _ of blue lights and posh cars. when you talk about the role of - of blue lights and posh cars. when you talk about the role of the - you talk about the role of the younger royals how we were talking about how popular they are, what about how popular they are, what about the little ones? we love to see pictures of charlotte, george, charlotte and louis. what role will they be playing?— they be playing? some of that is 0 en to they be playing? some of that is open to question. _ they be playing? some of that is open to question. we _ they be playing? some of that is open to question. we know - they be playing? some of that is open to question. we know that| open to question. we know that prince george, to campus my grandson, will be one of his four pages are born, so he has an

official very important role to play tomorrow. he has very much been part of the rehearsal. what an extraordinary row to undertake at nine years old. i extraordinary row to undertake at nine years old-— extraordinary row to undertake at nine years old. i wonder how they re are nine years old. i wonder how they prepare him _ nine years old. i wonder how they prepare him for — nine years old. i wonder how they prepare him for that. _ nine years old. i wonder how they prepare him for that. how - nine years old. i wonder how they prepare him for that. how do - nine years old. i wonder how they prepare him for that. how do you | prepare him for that. how do you talk to a nine day about the significance of the moment. it is tough asking a nine—year—old. it is tough asking a nine-year-old. it is tou~h. it tough asking a nine-year-old. it is tough- it is— tough asking a nine-year-old. it is tough- it is in _ tough asking a nine—year—old. it 3 tough. it is in their dna, isn't it? when you see the three children, george, charlotte and louis, they all have different personalities. you can forget those lovely pictures of prince louis on the balcony with the queen last year. his hands over his ears. he the queen last year. his hands over his ears. , , , ., . his ears. he is very popular prince louis, he trended _ his ears. he is very popular prince louis, he trended on _ his ears. he is very popular prince louis, he trended on twitter- his ears. he is very popular prince louis, he trended on twitter that l louis, he trended on twitter that day. louis, he trended on twitter that da . ~ ., ., , ., ., day. we were great to see what role the have day. we were great to see what role they have tomorrow. _ day. we were great to see what role they have tomorrow. the _ day. we were great to see what role they have tomorrow. the public- day. we were great to see what role i they have tomorrow. the public would like to say as much of them as

possible because they're part of family, but also their parents are very keen for them to have as much as possible a normal upbringing. at the same time they want them to be part in the event. george and charlotte at the young it were very much part of the funeral in september of last year. that will be quite a moment for them. it is a difficult balance for the prince and princess will is to make sure their children are seen, because the public want them to be seen, but also to protect them.— public want them to be seen, but also to protect them. very difficult balancin: also to protect them. very difficult balancing act _ also to protect them. very difficult balancing act. we _ also to protect them. very difficult balancing act. we saw _ also to protect them. very difficult balancing act. we saw those - also to protect them. very difficult l balancing act. we saw those pictures inside buckingham _ balancing act. we saw those pictures inside buckingham palace _ balancing act. we saw those pictures inside buckingham palace at - balancing act. we saw those pictures inside buckingham palace at the - inside buckingham palace at the heads of state, the prime ministers, so some of these livings here will be those people leaving and going to whichever accommodation there are going to, one would expect. christian fraser is outside buckingham palace and joins us now. christian, what are you saying from

where you are?— christian, what are you saying from where you are? sarah is quite right, once ou where you are? sarah is quite right, once you see _ where you are? sarah is quite right, once you see things _ where you are? sarah is quite right, once you see things sealed - where you are? sarah is quite right, once you see things sealed off- where you are? sarah is quite right, once you see things sealed off here | once you see things sealed off here you know _ once you see things sealed off here you know something is about to happen — you know something is about to happen. i've been the outriders, peeling — happen. i've been the outriders, peeling away one by one. there are zigzag _ peeling away one by one. there are zigzag precision as they transfer these _ zigzag precision as they transfer these governors general and prime ministers _ these governors general and prime ministers from buckingham palace. they are _ ministers from buckingham palace. they are transparent them down to marlborough house, i would think. the commonwealth secretary is holding — the commonwealth secretary is holding an event in an hour. the 56 independent countries that were part of the _ independent countries that were part of the commonwealth, they will gather — of the commonwealth, they will gather. the secretary general, baroness — gather. the secretary general, baroness scotland, is hosting that. kin- baroness scotland, is hosting that. king charles will be there, as well, as will_ king charles will be there, as well, as will the — king charles will be there, as well, as will the prime minister. given it is seated _ as will the prime minister. given it is sealed off here, we are expecting the king _ is sealed off here, we are expecting the king to — is sealed off here, we are expecting the king to shortly emerge at the question— the king to shortly emerge at the question is whether there will be a walk as _ question is whether there will be a walk as there was just after the late queen's, in the run—up to the

late queen's, in the run—up to the late queen's, in the run—up to the late queen's funeral on the mall. people _ late queen's funeral on the mall. people have been waiting very patiently. charlotte gallagher has been up _ patiently. charlotte gallagher has been up and down the mall talking to some of— been up and down the mall talking to some of the hardcore royalist error there _ some of the hardcore royalist error there the — some of the hardcore royalist error there. the sun has come out, which he would _ there. the sun has come out, which he would presume that there could be a walkabout. that is one of the reasons — a walkabout. that is one of the reasons why people do come from the mall for— reasons why people do come from the mall for days, it is for the chance to see _ mall for days, it is for the chance to see the — mall for days, it is for the chance to see the royal family up close. there _ to see the royal family up close. there were — to see the royal family up close. there were huge cheers, claps, people — there were huge cheers, claps, people with their phones out when controls _ people with their phones out when controls drove down. it is as exciting _ controls drove down. it is as exciting for them as the coronation itself~ _ exciting for them as the coronation itself in _ exciting for them as the coronation itself. in central london, soho, the prince _ itself. in central london, soho, the prince and — itself. in central london, soho, the prince and princess of wales visited a pub— prince and princess of wales visited a pub and _ prince and princess of wales visited a pub and it's in a people heard they— a pub and it's in a people heard they were — a pub and it's in a people heard they were in soho the crowds around they were in soho the crowds around the pub— they were in soho the crowds around the pub was— they were in soho the crowds around the pub was huge. they did a very lon- the pub was huge. they did a very long walkabout there. i took selfies, _ long walkabout there. i took selfies, were joking. they were

stroking — selfies, were joking. they were stroking dogs, saying babies. it is an important part of theirjob that they are _ an important part of theirjob that they are seen out with their supporters. they are seen as normal people. _ supporters. they are seen as normal people, they want to relate to the people _ people, they want to relate to the people here such huge supporters them _ people here such huge supporters them if_ people here such huge supporters them. if they do to our royal walkabout today, the people who have come to _ walkabout today, the people who have come to be _ walkabout today, the people who have come to be so excited. they are die hard _ come to be so excited. they are die hard they— come to be so excited. they are die hard. they had tents, waterproofs, chairs, _ hard. they had tents, waterproofs, chairs, everything they could possibly— chairs, everything they could possibly need. i think we have a slight problem with your microphone, which will fix. there is constant —— some concern about the weather. we should talk that. it has not been all that good today. we have had thunder and torrential downpours here. that has implications for tomorrow because we have this fly—past, 68 aircraft that

are due to fly over buckingham palace tomorrow. if the cloud is lower than around 2,000 feet, that will have implications for the formation, which should be a huge shame. �* ,, . ., , ., ., shame. and especially for the royal famil . shame. and especially for the royal family- when _ shame. and especially for the royal family. when they _ shame. and especially for the royal family. when they do _ shame. and especially for the royal family. when they do this _ shame. and especially for the royal family. when they do this fly-pastl family. when they do this fly—past over buckingham palace, the members of the _ over buckingham palace, the members of the family on the balcony really enjoy _ of the family on the balcony really enjoy. there was a famous photo of prince _ enjoy. there was a famous photo of prince louis — enjoy. there was a famous photo of prince louis holding his hands over his ears— prince louis holding his hands over his ears as — prince louis holding his hands over his ears as they flew over. especially when they come information and they spell out symbols — information and they spell out symbols and words, it is so exciting _ symbols and words, it is so exciting. the red arrows, of course. it is exciting. the red arrows, of course. it is a _ exciting. the red arrows, of course. it is a symbol— exciting. the red arrows, of course. it is a symbol of britain. if the weather— it is a symbol of britain. if the weather did affect that, it would be a shame _ weather did affect that, it would be a shame. he weather did affect that, it would be a shame. ~ . ~ ., a shame. he think back to the atrons a shame. he think back to the patrons lunch _ a shame. he think back to the patrons lunch on _ a shame. he think back to the patrons lunch on the - a shame. he think back to the patrons lunch on the mall, - a shame. he think back to the i patrons lunch on the mall, there were 10,000 people out there and there was torrential rain. there was

torrential rain in 1953. torrential rain at the olympics. we are used to this, we are brits! find rain at the olympics. we are used to this, we are brits!— this, we are brits! and the diamond jubilee. horrendous _ this, we are brits! and the diamond jubilee. horrendous weather - this, we are brits! and the diamond jubilee. horrendous weather down | this, we are brits! and the diamond | jubilee. horrendous weather down to river thames. the queen and prince philip _ river thames. the queen and prince philip stood — river thames. the queen and prince philip stood there to take in the atmosphere. they know what can happen _ atmosphere. they know what can happen with the weather here. it is the uk, _ happen with the weather here. it is the uk, it— happen with the weather here. it is the uk, it is— happen with the weather here. it is the uk, it is now. you can have every— the uk, it is now. you can have every season on monday. people say they have _ every season on monday. people say they have brought sunscreen and wellies — they have brought sunscreen and wellies lt— they have brought sunscreen and wellies. , ., . ., wellies. it is a good topic of conversation _ wellies. it is a good topic of conversation when - wellies. it is a good topic of conversation when you're i wellies. it is a good topic of- conversation when you're waiting. it would make that much difference for the armed forces. 7,000 in the procession tomorrow. yes, in ceremonial dress. they are well suited to the bad weather that they might say. let's talk about how important these lunches and meetings are. yes, there is a focus on tomorrow, but there is a very active

debate about the place that they can holt as head of states and some of these countries. we heard yesterday from jamaica that they want to hold a referendum may be as early as the dash as early as next year. these conversations are crucially important. conversations are crucially important-— conversations are crucially important. yes, and it is an important _ important. yes, and it is an important part _ important. yes, and it is an important part of— important. yes, and it is an important part of this - important. yes, and it is an important part of this for i important. yes, and it is an l important part of this for the important. yes, and it is an - important part of this for the king. the commonwealth is hugely important to his mother, that sense of unity. countries — to his mother, that sense of unity. countries can make your own personal decisions _ countries can make your own personal decisions about if they want to remain— decisions about if they want to remain as _ decisions about if they want to remain as part of the commonwealth, have the _ remain as part of the commonwealth, have the king as head of state. but they have _ have the king as head of state. but they have removed the can as head of state _ they have removed the can as head of state there _ they have removed the can as head of state. there is a long history in these _ state. there is a long history in these countries of colonisation, the empire _ these countries of colonisation, the empire it— these countries of colonisation, the empire it is— these countries of colonisation, the empire. it is a very different discussion here than in the uk. | discussion here than in the uk. i think discussion here than in the uk. think i can discussion here than in the uk. i think i can see a vehicle with the royal standard on it over your shoulder. yes, indeed. just looking

through the railings, you can see the outriders in front. i think the royal family might be going down the mall and convoy here, with the king just in front. we will watch intently to see whether the car stops on the mall. most of the crater at the top end of the mall at the moment. crater at the top end of the mall at the moment-— crater at the top end of the mall at the moment. ., ., , . , the moment. you will hear big cheers if the do the moment. you will hear big cheers if they do stop- _ the moment. you will hear big cheers if they do stop- l _ the moment. you will hear big cheers if they do stop. i can't _ the moment. you will hear big cheers if they do stop. i can't actually - if they do stop. i can't actually see from _ if they do stop. i can't actually see from a _ if they do stop. i can't actually see from a position _ if they do stop. i can't actually see from a position he - if they do stop. i can't actually see from a position he is - if they do stop. i can't actually see from a position he is in i if they do stop. i can't actually i see from a position he is in these vehicles. it might be some of the widerfamily. marlborough house is about halfway down the mall. tonight, there is this garden party for many of the guests who will be at the abbey tomorrow, which includes many of the royal family. i saw philippe from belgium come in on the eurostar. the families... for

the eurostar. the families... for the first time, there will be at the coronation. none of the heads of the other royal families were at the coronation of the queen. b. other royal families were at the coronation of the queen. a new experience _ coronation of the queen. a new experience for _ coronation of the queen. a new experience for many _ coronation of the queen. a new experience for many people - coronation of the queen. a new experience for many people in l coronation of the queen. a new i experience for many people in the uk. experience for many people in the uk these — experience for many people in the uk. these nom are stop macro we can see there — uk. these nom are stop macro we can see there at — uk. these nom are stop macro we can see there at the prince and princess of, they— see there at the prince and princess of, they have come out on the mall. that will— of, they have come out on the mall. that will be — of, they have come out on the mall. that will be a real treat for people _ that will be a real treat for eo - le. ., ., , that will be a real treat for --eole. ., ., , , that will be a real treat for --eole. ., , ., people. right at the top is where a lot of people _ people. right at the top is where a lot of people have _ people. right at the top is where a lot of people have pitched - people. right at the top is where a lot of people have pitched their. lot of people have pitched their tents and have waited overnight. some of them have been here three or four days. they will have known, as we knew, about an hour ago, that something was up because everything has been sealed off, which is always a good clue. has been sealed off, which is always a good clue-— a good clue. attempts have been taken down- _ a good clue. attempts have been taken down. i— a good clue. attempts have been taken down. i have _ a good clue. attempts have been taken down. i have had _ a good clue. attempts have been taken down. i have had to - a good clue. attempts have been taken down. i have had to take i a good clue. attempts have been i taken down. i have had to take away their tents _ taken down. i have had to take away their tents because they want as many— their tents because they want as many people as possible to be able to see _ many people as possible to be able to see members of the royal family and take _ to see members of the royal family and take those photos. i think that

lady with— and take those photos. i think that lady with the corgi jumper, i spoke to her_ lady with the corgi jumper, i spoke to her yesterday, she is one of the campers — to her yesterday, she is one of the campers a— to her yesterday, she is one of the campers. a list that she is having a really— campers. a list that she is having a really good — campers. a list that she is having a really good chat with prince william _ really good chat with prince william. i really good chat with prince william. ., �* ~ ., ., william. i don't know if we can hear what they are _ william. i don't know if we can hear what they are saying. _ william. i don't know if we can hear what they are saying. there - william. i don't know if we can hear what they are saying. there is - william. i don't know if we can hear what they are saying. there is the l what they are saying. there is the king, we missed him as he went past us. the king is walking down the right—hand side of the mall. we saw something similar to this at the queen's funeral. the we saw something similar to this at the queen's funeral.— the queen's funeral. the royal family get _ the queen's funeral. the royal family get a — the queen's funeral. the royal family get a lot _ the queen's funeral. the royal family get a lot of _ the queen's funeral. the royal family get a lot of support - the queen's funeral. the royal| family get a lot of support from these _ family get a lot of support from these people when they do these walkabouts. people are giving them -ood walkabouts. people are giving them good luck. — walkabouts. people are giving them good luck, they obviously wouldn't do it if— good luck, they obviously wouldn't do it if i_ good luck, they obviously wouldn't do it if i didn't enjoy them. lets do it if i didn't en'oy them. lets listen in, h do it if i didn't en'oy them. lets listen in, there's— do it if i didn't enjoy them. lets listen in, there's the _ do it if i didn't enjoy them. lets listen in, there's the moment waited for.

he watched these pictures, the light touch of security that surround.

yesterday we saw the prince and princess of wales on the tube and trying as best they can to blend in. it's not always that easy. it must be a slightly nervy time for the security when you're on these work walkabouts. lgale security when you're on these work walkabouts— walkabouts. we saw in york, eggs were thrown _ walkabouts. we saw in york, eggs were thrown at _ walkabouts. we saw in york, eggs were thrown at king _ walkabouts. we saw in york, eggs were thrown at king charles - walkabouts. we saw in york, eggs were thrown at king charles so - walkabouts. we saw in york, eggs were thrown at king charles so i i were thrown at king charles sol think— were thrown at king charles sol think they— were thrown at king charles sol think they have to be prepared for every— think they have to be prepared for every eventuality. he is completely surrounded by security staff. i was 'ust surrounded by security staff. i was just wondering how many hands has shaken _ just wondering how many hands has shaken this— just wondering how many hands has shaken this week? he has taken so many— shaken this week? he has taken so many photos. shaken this week? he has taken so many photos-— shaken this week? he has taken so many photos. plenty more to come throu~h many photos. plenty more to come through the — many photos. plenty more to come through the course _ many photos. plenty more to come through the course of— many photos. plenty more to come through the course of the _ many photos. plenty more to come through the course of the evening i many photos. plenty more to come l through the course of the evening as well. plenty of commonwealth lightweight is really nice to see. i was talking to one commentator here yesterday, they had a 10% increase in visitors in the last week or so coming from the us. people actually

are flying in to be part of this, even though they don't have a monarchy of their own. as is speaking to a lady from arkansas and she was one of the earliest campers. she said shejust she was one of the earliest campers. she said she just loves it so much and a _ she said she just loves it so much and a lot— she said she just loves it so much and a lot of— she said she just loves it so much and a lot of americans talk about the kennedys and said they felt like almost _ the kennedys and said they felt like almost royal family for the us, they love the _ almost royal family for the us, they love the pageantry and the fact that they get— love the pageantry and the fact that they get to see the cane. they're camping — they get to see the cane. they're camping out and they've now got a chance _ camping out and they've now got a chance to — camping out and they've now got a chance to meet the king.— camping out and they've now got a chance to meet the king. some of the news today was _ chance to meet the king. some of the news today was that _ chance to meet the king. some of the news today was that they're _ chance to meet the king. some of the news today was that they're adapting | news today was that they're adapting their service tomorrow. he's down there and he's had to walk through it and he is learning the process, it and he is learning the process, it is not selling at is inspected. they have changed the words in the homage to the people because in the initial draft of the text, it was an instructor to pay homage to the king

but now it is an invitation. the royal family are sensitive to this. they definitely look at public opinion, _ they definitely look at public opinion, look at how they are seen and when — opinion, look at how they are seen and when we saw those newspaper headlines — and when we saw those newspaper headlines it did come across as though— headlines it did come across as though it — headlines it did come across as though it was a instruction to pay on edge — though it was a instruction to pay on edge. there were very negative views— on edge. there were very negative views on— on edge. there were very negative views on social media and newspapers say they— views on social media and newspapers say they are _ views on social media and newspapers say they are very sensitive to the fact that — say they are very sensitive to the fact that they are loved by a lot of people _ fact that they are loved by a lot of people but not everyone wants to get involved _ people but not everyone wants to get involved and it is not an instruction, it is not in order that you have — instruction, it is not in order that you have to— instruction, it is not in order that you have to take part in the coronation.— you have to take part in the coronation. , ., , ., , coronation. some people have very stron: coronation. some people have very strong views _ coronation. some people have very strong views about _ coronation. some people have very strong views about it, _ coronation. some people have very strong views about it, the - strong views about it, the archbishop of canterbury said it is an invitation, if people want to shout at god save the cane it is up to them and that is the eighth invitation that will be extended up to the abbey tomorrow. these are the enthusiastic people who want to be here to catch a glimpse of the king. some other detail out today as well, lots of people you will see them as the king was down the mall as people

who are volunteers. emergency services, a00,000 people will make this work tomorrow and they will all get a coronation medal and we will see some details on how that looks later today. see some details on how that looks later today-— later today. sunday they will have to remember _ later today. sunday they will have to remember for _ later today. sunday they will have to remember for the _ later today. sunday they will have to remember for the rest - later today. sunday they will have to remember for the rest of - later today. sunday they will have to remember for the rest of their | to remember for the rest of their lives, _ to remember for the rest of their lives, taking part, is a hugely stressful— lives, taking part, is a hugely stressful day for many people working — stressful day for many people working but it's a huge honour. i went— working but it's a huge honour. i went to — working but it's a huge honour. i went to wellington barracks a few weeks _ went to wellington barracks a few weeks ago to meet some soldiers who art taking _ weeks ago to meet some soldiers who art taking part, they have been rehearsing for months. they have been _ rehearsing for months. they have been doing — rehearsing for months. they have been doing this for months and months — been doing this for months and months. these are some of the real die hard _ months. these are some of the real die hard royal fans that he is meeting _ die hard royal fans that he is meeting now. the man in the beanie hat, meeting now. the man in the beanie hat. he _ meeting now. the man in the beanie hat. he was— meeting now. the man in the beanie hat, he was the first company pay on the mall _ hat, he was the first company pay on the mall i_ hat, he was the first company pay on the mall. iwas hat, he was the first company pay on the mall. i was at sandringham in december— the mall. i was at sandringham in december for the role christmas and he was _ december for the role christmas and he was there as well sol december for the role christmas and he was there as well so i feel like i he was there as well so i feel like i know— he was there as well so i feel like i know him — he was there as well so i feel like i know him quite well now. that's john! _ i know him quite well now. that's john! i_

i know him quite well now. that's john! ! know— i know him quite well now. that's john! i know! i know him quite well now. that's john! i know i lives as well, where area _ john! i know i lives as well, where area of— john! i know i lives as well, where area of london he lives so you find out a _ area of london he lives so you find out a lot _ area of london he lives so you find out a lot about people. it's very interesting, some people who are here for— interesting, some people who are here for the funeral have actually come _ here for the funeral have actually come back— here for the funeral have actually come back for the coronation including _ come back for the coronation including people from overseas. i met a _ including people from overseas. i met a mum and son from new york state _ met a mum and son from new york state and _ met a mum and son from new york state and they come back for the coronation this time because they absolutely loved being part of it. some _ absolutely loved being part of it. some details today about how the abbey will look tomorrow. i've been talking about kane's blood to your lips —— tulips. the king takes pride in his garden as he does around the country, tomorrow there will be garden flowers in the abbey. seasonal flowers, tulips and also branches from trees at the queen and the duke of edinburgh had planted so a real garden.

the duke of edinburgh had planted so a real garden-— a real garden. there will be two trees in the _ a real garden. there will be two trees in the abbey _ a real garden. there will be two trees in the abbey that - a real garden. there will be two trees in the abbey that will - a real garden. there will be two trees in the abbey that will be l trees in the abbey that will be replanted in the sandringham estate. it's a replanted in the sandringham estate. it's a very— replanted in the sandringham estate. it's a very homely touch i think and the king _ it's a very homely touch i think and the king is— it's a very homely touch i think and the king is really passionate about nature _ the king is really passionate about nature and the environment so it's no great _ nature and the environment so it's no great surprise that he's wanted to keep _ no great surprise that he's wanted to keep it— no great surprise that he's wanted to keep it seasonal and reflecting the uk _ to keep it seasonal and reflecting the uk as— to keep it seasonal and reflecting the uk as it is now.— the uk as it is now. let's listen then, the uk as it is now. let's listen then. l'm _ the uk as it is now. let's listen then. l'm not _ the uk as it is now. let's listen then, i'm not sure _ the uk as it is now. let's listen then, i'm not sure what - the uk as it is now. let's listen then, i'm not sure what mike i the uk as it is now. let's listen | then, i'm not sure what mike is open. let's listen to the cane's microphone. open. let's listen to the cane's microphone-— open. let's listen to the cane's microhone. ., ., ~ open. let's listen to the cane's microphone. i microphone. came from america! i came from — microphone. came from america! i came from bangkok! _

god save the king! jill biden and the first lady of ukraine will be here in the uk. the front line royals will be there but of course, the duke of sussex may not be the, prince andrew might not be there. what you make of that because there are talks of prince harry flying in within 2a hours

quizzed? lute harry flying in within 24 hours cuizzed? ~ ., ., , . quizzed? we are not expecting huge amount of people _ quizzed? we are not expecting huge amount of people coming _ quizzed? we are not expecting huge amount of people coming out - quizzed? we are not expecting huge amount of people coming out on - quizzed? we are not expecting hugej amount of people coming out on the balcony— amount of people coming out on the balcony tomorrow. the focus is very much _ balcony tomorrow. the focus is very much on _ balcony tomorrow. the focus is very much on the — balcony tomorrow. the focus is very much on the cane and different members — much on the cane and different members of the royal family. of course — members of the royal family. of course, prince andrew because of what _ course, prince andrew because of what has — course, prince andrew because of what has happened with him and the relationship with jeffrey epstein, he is _ relationship with jeffrey epstein, he is not — relationship with jeffrey epstein, he is not involved as he once was. interestingly he did make the most about— interestingly he did make the most about insider them at christmas. it is not _ about insider them at christmas. it is not the _ about insider them at christmas. it is not the same, prince harry may not be _ is not the same, prince harry may not be on — is not the same, prince harry may not be on the balcony. he will certainly— not be on the balcony. he will certainly not be there with his children— certainly not be there with his children and his wife, it does seem like a _ children and his wife, it does seem like a shame. there has been focused on saving _ like a shame. there has been focused on saving money, can the uk and the commonwealth, does it want this massive _ commonwealth, does it want this massive royal family various different members of it going at events? — different members of it going at events? it seems to be focused on the working members now.-

events? it seems to be focused on the working members now. we've not had any priced — the working members now. we've not had any priced tag. — the working members now. we've not had any priced tag, it _ the working members now. we've not had any priced tag, it has _ the working members now. we've not had any priced tag, it has been - had any priced tag, it has been estimated around £100 million. they said it was money that was well worth it because a lot of it money does come back into the country, particularly through tourism. i'm told we can hear the prince of wales microphone. i’m told we can hear the prince of wales microphone-— told we can hear the prince of wales microphone. i'm going to be here for five niahts microphone. i'm going to be here for five nights total, _ microphone. i'm going to be here for five nights total, i'm _ microphone. i'm going to be here for five nights total, i'm going _ microphone. i'm going to be here for five nights total, i'm going to - microphone. i'm going to be here for five nights total, i'm going to be - five nights total, i'm going to be here _ five nights total, i'm going to be here tonight _ five nights total, i'm going to be here tonight-— here tonight. there's not much sleein: here tonight. there's not much sleeping on _ here tonight. there's not much sleeping on here! _ here tonight. there's not much sleeping on here! very - here tonight. there's not much sleeping on here! very nice - here tonight. there's not much sleeping on here! very nice to | here tonight. there's not much i sleeping on here! very nice to see you _

princess of wales just following behind and of course their three children, charlotte george and louis will be centre stage tomorrow at some point. particularly important day for prince george because he has got a proper role to play tomorrow. he is one of the pages tomorrow in westminster abbey, and also the grandstands of the queen consort. they are _ grandstands of the queen consort. they are page boys as well. of course — they are page boys as well. of course are _ they are page boys as well. of course are seen as the children come out, people _ course are seen as the children come out, people love seeing them, especially prince louis because he is quite _ especially prince louis because he is quite cheeky, he spelling quite funny— is quite cheeky, he spelling quite funny expressions. at the jubilee concert— funny expressions. at the jubilee concert last year he was looking incredibly— concert last year he was looking incredibly bored, these events are a lot for— incredibly bored, these events are a lot for children. i wouldn't have

sat still— lot for children. i wouldn't have sat still for— lot for children. i wouldn't have sat still for it!— sat still for it! the king is on a walkabout- — sat still for it! the king is on a walkabout. he _ sat still for it! the king is on a walkabout. he is _ sat still for it! the king is on a walkabout. he is meeting - walkabout. he is meeting commonwealth heads of government at marlborough house and we are told that the king is going to retire early tonight. the garden party where camilla will be out, they will be meeting foreign royalty who are starting to arrive in london. please write in, i would _ starting to arrive in london. please write in, i would love _ starting to arrive in london. please write in, i would love to _ starting to arrive in london. please write in, i would love to speak - starting to arrive in london. please write in, i would love to speak to i write in, i would love to speak to you _ write in, i would love to speak to you hello! — write in, i would love to speak to you hello! 0h— write in, i would love to speak to you. hello! oh no, _ write in, i would love to speak to you. hello! oh no, what- write in, i would love to speak to you. hello! oh no, what were . write in, i would love to speak toi you. hello! oh no, what were you doing? _ you. hello! oh no, what were you doing? at — you. hello! oh no, what were you doing? at least _ you. hello! oh no, what were you doing? at least you _ you. hello! oh no, what were you doing? at least you are _ you. hello! oh no, what were you doing? at least you are having. you. hello! oh no, what were you. doing? at least you are having fun.

hello _ doing? at least you are having fun. hello. excited, _ doing? at least you are having fun. hello. excited, a _ doing? at least you are having fun. hello. excited, a bit— doing? at least you are having fun. hello. excited, a bit nervous- doing? at least you are having fun. hello. excited, a bit nervous with i doing? at least you are having fun. hello. excited, a bit nervous with a bil hello. excited, a bit nervous with a big day— hello. excited, a bit nervous with a big day ahead _ hello. excited, a bit nervous with a big day ahead all— hello. excited, a bit nervous with a big day ahead. all good,. - hello. excited, a bit nervous with a big day ahead. all good,. i'm - hello. excited, a bit nervous with a big day ahead. all good,. i'm surel big day ahead. all good,. i'm sure the king _ big day ahead. all good,. i'm sure the king is— big day ahead. all good,. i'm sure the king is looking _ big day ahead. all good,. i'm sure the king is looking forward - big day ahead. all good,. i'm sure the king is looking forward to - big day ahead. all good,. i'm sure the king is looking forward to it i big day ahead. all good,. i'm sure the king is looking forward to it as well _ the king is looking forward to it as well its— the king is looking forward to it as well it's nice _ the king is looking forward to it as well. it's nice to— the king is looking forward to it as well. it's nice to come _ the king is looking forward to it as well. it's nice to come and - the king is looking forward to it as well. it's nice to come and say- well. it's nice to come and say hello— well. it's nice to come and say hello to — well. it's nice to come and say hello to everyone _ well. it's nice to come and say hello to everyone who - well. it's nice to come and say hello to everyone who has - well. it's nice to come and say. hello to everyone who has stayed well. it's nice to come and say- hello to everyone who has stayed up for so _ hello to everyone who has stayed up for so long — hello to everyone who has stayed up for so long it's _ hello to everyone who has stayed up for so long. it's long _ hello to everyone who has stayed up for so long. it's long hours. - thank you!

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a bit of italian, all sorts of foreign languages there. it's a real skill to get down the line and at the same time make everyone feel special and welcome. but the same time make everyone feel special and welcome.— the same time make everyone feel special and welcome. but they are so aood at it. special and welcome. but they are so good at it- i — special and welcome. but they are so good at it. i imagine _ special and welcome. but they are so good at it. i imagine when _ special and welcome. but they are so good at it. i imagine when catherine | good at it. i imagine when catherine married _ good at it. i imagine when catherine married into — good at it. i imagine when catherine married into the royal family, she received _ married into the royal family, she received training on these kind of events _ received training on these kind of events i— received training on these kind of events. i thought it was really nice the first— events. i thought it was really nice the first shook hands on some of the stewards— the first shook hands on some of the stewards who are working this weekend _ stewards who are working this weekend and he met some of them as well. weekend and he met some of them as well they— weekend and he met some of them as well. they really embraced the digital— well. they really embraced the digital age, they are posing for selfies — digital age, they are posing for selfies. we saw on the cheap trip yesterday. — selfies. we saw on the cheap trip yesterday, there was an influence on the on—board and he met them. the kin- the on—board and he met them. the king and _

the on—board and he met them. the king and queen consort recorded a special— king and queen consort recorded a special message for people taking the cheap this weekend. it�*s a special message for people taking the cheap this weekend. it's a very brave dress — the cheap this weekend. it's a very brave dress the _ the cheap this weekend. it's a very brave dress the princess _ the cheap this weekend. it's a very brave dress the princess of - the cheap this weekend. it's a very brave dress the princess of wales. the cheap this weekend. it's a very | brave dress the princess of wales is wearing given the weather. i'm covered in mud i have to say, we had torrential downpours, it's good to see the sun is out and it is shining at the moment and everyone is having opportunity tojoin. heading back at the moment and everyone is having opportunity to join. heading back to the car as they go to the garden reception for the commonwealth heads of government who are meeting at marlborough house this afternoon. 56 independent countries. i was just saying earlier how important these sorts of meetings are. while there is the debate about the royal family's role. when those leaders

who have flown in, look how magnificent the mall looks and how it will look tomorrow for the big event. you can see the crowd for a five deep in the mouths afternoon. the spirit beginning to build before the event tomorrow. with a talking bout was an asset the princess of wales is to the family. the princess royal will be there tomorrow behind the rail carriage as the commander of the troops will be tomorrow. she has really come to prominence since the funeral of the late queen and people are reminded was an active and busy while she is. she people are reminded was an active and busy while she is.— people are reminded was an active and busy while she is. she is one of the hardest — and busy while she is. she is one of the hardest working _ and busy while she is. she is one of the hardest working members - and busy while she is. she is one of the hardest working members of. and busy while she is. she is one of| the hardest working members of the royal— the hardest working members of the royal family, the hardest working members of the royalfamily, she the hardest working members of the royal family, she does public events across— royal family, she does public events across the _ royal family, she does public events across the uk and foreign tours. she was across the uk and foreign tours. she goes ups— across the uk and foreign tours. she goes ups and downs meeting people and she _ goes ups and downs meeting people and she did play a really prominent role in _ and she did play a really prominent role in the — and she did play a really prominent role in the wake of their mother's death _

role in the wake of their mother's death she — role in the wake of their mother's death. she is a huge asset to the royal— death. she is a huge asset to the royal family. death. she is a huge asset to the royalfamily. she death. she is a huge asset to the royal family. she is very popular as well _ royal family. she is very popular as well she _ royal family. she is very popular as well. she has taken on more prominence. well. she has taken on more prominence-— well. she has taken on more prominence. well. she has taken on more rominence. ., ., ., . �* �* prominence. you are watching bbc news. you an example. in my constituency 30% of the land is flood plain, and liable to flooding, we don't want to build houses where people will get flooded so there are limitations you through have on that, but i think it is right that the government have got rid of the mandatory targets because to tell local authorities what they must be doing isn't what i believe in terms of conservativism. you are going to, labour said they will reinstate the targets but as i say the —— said the councillor in medway said it was because of the target, others are saying we are not building enough. we target, others are saying we are not building enough.— building enough. we are not and sometimes _ building enough. we are not and sometimes you _ building enough. we are not and sometimes you have _

building enough. we are not and sometimes you have to - building enough. we are not and sometimes you have to start - building enough. we are not and| sometimes you have to start with politics _ sometimes you have to start with politics with what the is right thing — politics with what the is right thing to— politics with what the is right thing to do. if you do that, liam, you know— thing to do. if you do that, liam, you know this, nothing will get built — you know this, nothing will get built the _ you know this, nothing will get built. the only pressure against what _ built. the only pressure against what a — built. the only pressure against what a very... but built. the only pressure against what a very- - -— what a very... but not to the scale- -- _ what a very... but not to the scale- -- lt — what a very... but not to the scale... it is— what a very... but not to the scale... it is predicated - what a very... but not to the scale... it is predicated on i what a very... but not to the scale... it is predicated on a| what a very... but not to the - scale... it is predicated on a level of immigration _ scale... it is predicated on a level of immigration half _ scale... it is predicated on a level of immigration half of _ scale... it is predicated on a level of immigration half of what - scale... it is predicated on a level of immigration half of what it - scale... it is predicated on a level of immigration half of what it is, l of immigration half of what it is, and it— of immigration half of what it is, and it will— of immigration half of what it is, and it will expand further. you have to have _ and it will expand further. you have to have something, we are betraying a young _ to have something, we are betraying a young generation of people who are never— a young generation of people who are never going to get on the housing ladder. _ never going to get on the housing ladder, you have a generation of british— ladder, you have a generation of british people who are less well—off than their— british people who are less well—off than their parent, the big part is the housing market, you know, you take that _ the housing market, you know, you take that pressure away, that will not be _ take that pressure away, that will not be built. already with them we werent— not be built. already with them we weren't building enough, the idea you take — weren't building enough, the idea you take away the one bit of the stay that — you take away the one bit of the stay that gave you a backstop to make _ stay that gave you a backstop to make sure — stay that gave you a backstop to make sure something would happen. let me _ make sure something would happen. let me go— make sure something would happen. let me go back to david. hello to you as the outgoing former conservative leader of swindon council, what you have heard particularly from liam fox, do you think anything is going to happen that will change conservative

fortunes? ~ that will change conservative fortunes?— that will change conservative fortunes? ~ ., ., fortunes? well, i do agree, with everything _ fortunes? well, i do agree, with everything liam _ fortunes? well, i do agree, with everything liam said. _ fortunes? well, i do agree, with everything liam said. sorry, - fortunes? well, i do agree, withl everything liam said. sorry, start aaain everything liam said. sorry, start again because — everything liam said. sorry, start again because they _ everything liam said. sorry, start again because they are _ everything liam said. sorry, start again because they are cheering i again because they are cheering behind you i thought they had done the counting but clearly it is still going on 0 the counting but clearly it is still auoin on 0 , the counting but clearly it is still going on 0 yes. you can go. the counting but clearly it is still going on 0- you can go. going on 0 yes. you can go. there is still a few seats _ going on 0 yes. you can go. there is still a few seats to _ going on 0 yes. you can go. there is still a few seats to announce, - going on 0 yes. you can go. there is still a few seats to announce, but, i still a few seats to announce, but, so, housing — still a few seats to announce, but, 50, housing is not a particularly an election— 50, housing is not a particularly an election issue in swindon because we have a _ election issue in swindon because we have a track— election issue in swindon because we have a track record of building lots of new _ have a track record of building lots of new homes and we have been good at doing _ of new homes and we have been good at doing that and swindon is the most _ at doing that and swindon is the most affordable place to buy or rent a house _ most affordable place to buy or rent a house in— most affordable place to buy or rent a house in the south. it is about people's— a house in the south. it is about people's cost of living, and if we can do— people's cost of living, and if we can do something about that, then that is— can do something about that, then that is going to go a long way to improving — that is going to go a long way to improving fortunes.— that is going to go a long way to improving fortunes. david renard, thank ou improving fortunes. david renard, thank you in _ improving fortunes. david renard, thank you in swindon. _ improving fortunes. david renard, thank you in swindon. on - improving fortunes. david renard, | thank you in swindon. on housing, thank you in swindon. 0n housing, sarah 0lney, there is always the claim that liberal democratses are very pro building more houses at a

national level but a bit any mory not in my back yard at a local level? . not in my back yard at a local level? , ., ., , ., level? yes, there are lots of tensions _ level? yes, there are lots of tensions and _ level? yes, there are lots of tensions and we _ level? yes, there are lots of tensions and we see - level? yes, there are lots of tensions and we see that. level? yes, there are lots of- tensions and we see that playing out in elections right across the country, notjust liberal democrats, other parties as well, but you know, there is no doubt we need to be building more, we need to be providing more opportunities for young people, notjust to own a home but at the moment particularly in london we are seeing such a massive increase in rents it is really, really proving impossible now for young people to get any kind of home in london and there are lots of complex reasons why that is the case, but as far as you know, the sort of planning issues in local councils are concerned, i think what we see in the liberal democrats is that currently the way the planning system operates it is pretty much a developers charity, a lot of mps see this in their own patch, there is not enough control that local authorities are able to exert over the process, to be able to sort of say, this is the housing we need here, these are the people who need

it, this is the requirement of our local population, and that is the sort of housing we want to see. they simply get over, over rowed at every stage. lute simply get over, over rowed at every sta . e. ~ simply get over, over rowed at every sta . e. . . ., simply get over, over rowed at every staae.~ ., ., stage. we will come back to that. let us no stage. we will come back to that. let us go to _ stage. we will come back to that. let us go to martin _ stage. we will come back to that. let us go to martin oats. - stage. we will come back to that. let us go to martin oats. hello i stage. we will come back to that. let us go to martin oats. hello to let us go to martin 0ats. hello to you, can you bring us up—to—date on any results that you might have of councils in your region, your patch, or where we are?— or where we are? yes, absolutely. so, or where we are? yes, absolutely. so. torbay — or where we are? yes, absolutely. so. torbay was — or where we are? yes, absolutely. so, torbay was part _ or where we are? yes, absolutely. so, torbay was part of _ or where we are? yes, absolutely. so, torbay was part of the - or where we are? yes, absolutely. so, torbay was part of the yellowl so, torbay was part of the yellow wall that was demolished by david cameron in 2015 so forker tory seat with a liberal democrat mp. the liberal democrats are running this council but as part of a minority administration and it looks a if there won't be much change but much more interesting results in the neighbouring rural devon district so next door in the south hams the liberal democrats have taken the council for the first time ever, now, the south hams, with a couple

of parliamentary constituency, both true blue, one totnes going back to the �*90s when the liberal democrats were on the big rise we on the list of marginals i think that will be viewed with considerable concern by the conservatives, and then to the east of the county, the liberal democrats have done well, they won't take the council but easter yvonne district council and they think they are on course for the first time to gains, sorry since the mid 90s to gains, sorry since the mid 90s to gain a majority on mid devon, those two councils overlap with the tiverton and honiton constituency and that is the seat the liberal democrats took in a spectacular victory in a by—election lastjune following the resignation of neil parish, that being a seat which has been true blue, so i think, we might been true blue, so i think, we might be seeing an answer to the biggest question in west country electoral politics as to whether the liberal democrats after that annihilation in 2015, after the coalition, after brexit, are finally managing to

achieve consistent upward trajectory, and of course, that would be extremely concerning to the conservatives. would be extremely concerning to the conservatives-— conservatives. thank you martin with those results- _ conservatives. thank you martin with those results. i— conservatives. thank you martin with those results. i mean _ conservatives. thank you martin with those results. i mean it _ conservatives. thank you martin with those results. i mean it must - conservatives. thank you martin with those results. i mean it must be - those results. i mean it must be concerning, i mean there does seem to be this blue wall as was, that is being smashed, ed davey took his tractor through former conservative heartland, this pincer movement we are seeing from labour and the liberal democrats but particularly, down in places like the south—west, it is going to make it ever harder for the conservatives, to keep those seat, even at a parliamentary level. we will see s i would look at the turn out and see which voters decided to stay at home. we will have a lot of conservative voters doing that, you are looking at places like torbay, not much change there. we will see aawe the region when we get the results, what the turn out looked like what the swings looked like, what the vote shares looked like, what the vote shares looked like, what the vote shares looked like but i go back to the

point i made earlier, the liberal democrat increase in vote share is only about 1% compared to 2019. sarah? i only about 1% compared to 2019. sarah? ., ., _ only about 1% compared to 2019. sarah? ., ., ,._ i. ., sarah? i wanted to say you mentioned the tractor and — sarah? i wanted to say you mentioned the tractor and our— sarah? i wanted to say you mentioned the tractor and our blue _ sarah? i wanted to say you mentioned the tractor and our blue hay _ sarah? i wanted to say you mentioned the tractor and our blue hay bales, - the tractor and our blue hay bales, that was, i have heard we have taken control, we are delighted.— control, we are delighted. sarah, ou are control, we are delighted. sarah, you are doing _ control, we are delighted. sarah, you are doing the _ control, we are delighted. sarah, you are doing the results - control, we are delighted. sarah, you are doing the results before l control, we are delighted. sarah, you are doing the results before i am. i mean, it is now this pattern of councils, falling, expected to some extent is of councils, falling, expected to some exten— of councils, falling, expected to some exten , ., ., ., , ., some extent is it a lot worse than ou some extent is it a lot worse than you thought- _ some extent is it a lot worse than you thought- no. _ some extent is it a lot worse than you thought. no, in _ some extent is it a lot worse than you thought. no, in 2019 - some extent is it a lot worse than you thought. no, in 2019 the - some extent is it a lot worse than i you thought. no, in 2019 the liberal democrats had a very good year, they won so mps six months later. can i sa we won so mps six months later. can i say we have _ won so mps six months later. can i say we have won — won so mps six months later. can i say we have won three _ won so mps six months later. can i say we have won three in _ say we have won three in parliamentary by—elections since then and — parliamentary by—elections since then and we have bon in parts of the country— then and we have bon in parts of the country where we hadn't previously had mp. _ country where we hadn't previously had mp, we have won them in north shropshire _ had mp, we have won them in north shropshire and in tiverton and honiton, — shropshire and in tiverton and honiton, so, we have shown, you know, _ honiton, so, we have shown, you know. a _ honiton, so, we have shown, you know, a sustained progress in at tractsing — know, a sustained progress in at tractsing new voters and winning seats _ tractsing new voters and winning seats. ., ., , ., tractsing new voters and winning seats. ., ., ., seats. you would accept that local election, seats. you would accept that local election. of _ seats. you would accept that local

election, of course _ seats. you would accept that local election, of course they _ seats. you would accept that local election, of course they are - election, of course they are different to national and general election, it is true the liberal democrats tend to outperform their national poll ratings, in local elections and when it comes to a national election people don't always vote the same way. i would ho -e we always vote the same way. i would hope we can _ always vote the same way. i would hope we can build _ always vote the same way. i would hope we can build on _ always vote the same way. i would hope we can build on the - always vote the same way. i would hope we can build on the excellent results we were getting last night and today and there is more to come, and today and there is more to come, and you know, it will demonstrate to people that in certain parts of the country, you know, the best way, the best way if you want to get the tories out in your area, you need to vote liberal democrat, and that we are the party who are taking the fight to the tories are, right across the country in all sorts of places. across the country in all sorts of laces. . across the country in all sorts of laces, , ., ., “ across the country in all sorts of laces. , ., ., ~ ., ,., across the country in all sorts of laces. , ., ., ., ,,, places. let us look at some analysis on that claim _ places. let us look at some analysis on that claim with _ places. let us look at some analysis on that claim with david _ places. let us look at some analysis on that claim with david wallace - on that claim with david wallace lockhart. he is at the touch screen looking at the liberal democrat performance. the liberal democrats, jo. performance. the liberal democrats, jo, seem to have broad smiles on theirfaces today, and jo, seem to have broad smiles on their faces today, and you can see why, because we are comparing with the 2019 local elections here and the 2019 local elections here and the liberal democrats had a very good set of elections back then, so

fact that they are building on that again, when the bar was quite high already does suggest a good set of results for them. we have the two councils they have taken so far, both from the conservatives, stratford—on—avon which came in the last hour or so and windsor declared this morning, and we can look at stratford—on—avon in warwickshire, this has been conservative since 2000. the liberal democrats though, getting a majority here, 25 seats, the local mp here is nadhim zahawi, former conservative chancellor and liberal democrats are calling it a shakespearean tragedy for him, of course the birthplace of william shakespeare. let us look at the seat, you can see what has happened. the conservative vote down by 1a, the liberal democrats gaining 15, so it does seem to be that shift from conservative to the liberal democrats. we can go to have a look

now at windsor and maidenhead, another big success, that is where ed davey went to celebrate. it has been a conservative seat since 2007. another area with a high profile conservative mp, with a big majority, theresa may former prime minister, liberal democrats getting 22 seats there, squeaking a majority, and we can see how things have changed, it is the conservative going down, down by 16 seats compared to 2019, the liberal democrats up by 13 and another area, still counting, but where the liberal democrats are starting to sound optimistic, is decorum in hertfordshire, the sort of hemel hempstead area, conservative since 2003, but the liberal democrats with slightly over half the seats counted on 23, they need 26 for a majority, so it does appear that they could be heading towards that, let us look at the change familiar store rear, the conservatives down quite significantly, in terms of seats, the liberal democrats being the main

beneficiarieses of that, so, quite similar tails here, prosperous comfort only, safe conservative seats when it comes to the house of commons, now in local elections they seem to be abandoning the conservatives in favour of liberal democrats so not only a worry for the conservatives perhaps about how labour is performing in certain areas but there is that liberal democrat performance as well and if you are i thinking the about potential general election, the fear there for the conservatives would be a sort of pincer movement, with those parties taking mps away from them, of course if we have not gone through your area you go to the bbc website, put in your post codes or on the app and we will tell you what has happened in local elections where you, or stick with us because we are bringing you the results as we are bringing you the results as we get them.

seats to declare, they have 16 seats so far, we might be able to show you pictures from another count norfolk stone, here we are, a suggestion that the greens might be about to take control of that, they did have six before that, that would be an upset there, but what do you make of their performance. we upset there, but what do you make of their performance.— their performance. we weren't expecting _ their performance. we weren't expecting that. _ their performance. we weren't expecting that, mid _ their performance. we weren't expecting that, mid suffolk . their performance. we weren'tl expecting that, mid suffolk was their performance. we weren't - expecting that, mid suffolk was on the radar, they are getting close toes that one. but, this one seems toes that one. but, this one seems to have come from know where in folkestone, we will see if they can get, everyone thinks with the green, they ran brighton, it's the point of being in control, on their own as it were. a lot of similarities in the

way they are campaigning, with how the liberal democrats have approached all of this, which is realising you have to make your base, if you like, you have to really work an area when you are a smaller partyer you won't have the same national coverage as the other two will have, so it is about working hard, building up profiles in those areas and then, in the sense of the liberal democrats, it is translating that into a parliamentary seat, if they can. again, very hard for the greens to do that, you know, they have managed to do it but not in any big sense, so it is for them, think, getting more councillors and if you can start running a couple of councils of more, it is the profile increases a and they can build on that. it is the bedrock _ a and they can build on that. it is the bedrock as _ a and they can build on that. it is the bedrock as parties say of their position if they are in government, or in opposition, is having a strong local base, yours is diminishing, the conservative party's is diminishing, that will make it harder too.

you are still performing badly now. what impact will that have? obviously i want to see us increase obviously i want to see us increase our local— obviously i want to see us increase our local government base but we have _ our local government base but we have been— our local government base but we have been the biggest party in government for a very long time, historically— government for a very long time, historically full stop in 2019 we didn't— historically full stop in 2019 we didn't do— historically full stop in 2019 we didn't do well in the local elections. forthe didn't do well in the local elections. for the year was out we had an— elections. for the year was out we had an 80 — elections. for the year was out we had an 80 seat majority in the house of commons, because they are not the same _ of commons, because they are not the same -- _ of commons, because they are not the same. —— before the year was out. local— same. —— before the year was out. local elections are not the same. in a general— local elections are not the same. in a general election you will end up with. _ a general election you will end up with. let's — a general election you will end up with, let's face it, a labour or conservative government, or we did have a _ conservative government, or we did have a coalition with the lib dems that didn't — have a coalition with the lib dems that didn't do very well for them so i that didn't do very well for them so ! don't _ that didn't do very well for them so i don't imagine we would do that agaih _ i don't imagine we would do that again. that is the difference. in a general— again. that is the difference. in a general election it is a choice of one direction or another for the country. — one direction or another for the country, which is why, and i know we always— country, which is why, and i know we always try— country, which is why, and i know we always try to — country, which is why, and i know we always try to extrapolate local government elections two general elections, but they are very different.

elections, but they are very different-— elections, but they are very different. , ., , , different. they are different but the are different. they are different but they are indications... - different. they are different but they are indications... they - different. they are different but they are indications... they are | they are indications... they are indications. _ they are indications... they are indications. but _ they are indications... they are indications. but also, _ they are indications... they are indications. but also, liam - they are indications... they are | indications. but also, liam fox, they are indications... they are i indications. but also, liam fox, if ou look indications. but also, liam fox, if you look to _ indications. but also, liam fox, if you look to well _ indications. but also, liam fox, if you look to well since _ indications. but also, liam fox, if you look to well since 1995 - indications. but also, liam fox, if you look to well since 1995 the i you look to well since 1995 the parties that really do well in local elections ahead of a general election by a year, 18 months out, do tend to then win, and whether thatis do tend to then win, and whether that is 1995, and i think that is debatable, into 97, i think there wasjust one anomaly debatable, into 97, i think there was just one anomaly where the tories did better than labour but tony blair still went to win a majority in 2005. so there is a relationship. of course they are not the same thing. the other thing about 2019 which we must remind ourselves and viewers, is that that was a tumultuous year and brexit issue, would you agree, is no longer theissueit issue, would you agree, is no longer the issue it was then, which was to some extent which strolled boris johnson's victory at the end of 2019? it johnson's victory at the end of 2019? ., , johnson's victory at the end of 2019? ., _ ., ., 2019? it was obviously part of that election campaign. _ 2019? it was obviously part of that election campaign. that _ 2019? it was obviously part of that election campaign. that has - 2019? it was obviously part of that election campaign. that has gone| 2019? it was obviously part of that i election campaign. that has gone but other issues — election campaign. that has gone but other issues come, and the point i

am making — other issues come, and the point i am making is you simply cannot extrapolate a local government election— extrapolate a local government election into a general election. but there — election into a general election. but there are still questions about the conservative performance and motivating your previous voters to come out, and you might be right, they might be staying at home an they might be staying at home 57"! this occasion, but they also made stay—at—home in a year. there is no guarantee after 30 years... and what has happened... people are looking and going, actually, you know, it's the competence argument, isn't it? i think lots of people will look at the turmoil of the last couple of years and possibly think, "what's the point in re—electing them? we'll give someone else ago", and isn't that the danger for your party, a lot of what your colleagues are worried about? doesn't give someone else a go. i worried about? doesn't give someone else a to. ~ . worried about? doesn't give someone else a to. ~' , ., else a go. i think there is a difference _ else a go. i think there is a difference between - else a go. i think there is a difference between stayingj else a go. i think there is a i difference between staying at else a go. i think there is a - difference between staying at home in a local— difference between staying at home in a local election as a protest and not voting — in a local election as a protest and not voting in a general election where — not voting in a general election where you _ not voting in a general election where you will get a very different -- may— where you will get a very different -- may get— where you will get a very different —— may get a different national government and the one you want which _ government and the one you want which is _ government and the one you want which is why turnout is about twice as high— which is why turnout is about twice as high in— which is why turnout is about twice as high in a — which is why turnout is about twice as high in a general election compared to local elections, so the

point _ compared to local elections, so the point you _ compared to local elections, so the point you have made i think it's partly— point you have made i think it's partly correct, voters may be more liable _ partly correct, voters may be more liable to _ partly correct, voters may be more liable to stay at home in a local election— liable to stay at home in a local election forced i don't think that holds _ election forced i don't think that holds in — election forced i don't think that holds in a — election forced i don't think that holds in a general election. the next _ holds in a general election. the next general election will be quite a choice _ next general election will be quite a choice between the different directions the country wants to take _ directions the country wants to take. therefore i think people will come _ take. therefore i think people will come out — take. therefore i think people will come out and they will vote in that general— come out and they will vote in that general election. | come out and they will vote in that general election.— come out and they will vote in that general election. i absolutely agree it will be a choice _ general election. i absolutely agree it will be a choice and _ general election. i absolutely agree it will be a choice and i _ general election. i absolutely agree it will be a choice and i think - general election. i absolutely agree it will be a choice and i think the i it will be a choice and i think the biggest — it will be a choice and i think the biggest danger. _ it will be a choice and i think the biggest danger, as— it will be a choice and i think the biggest danger, as i— it will be a choice and i think the biggest danger, as i see - it will be a choice and i think the biggest danger, as i see it, i it will be a choice and i think the biggest danger, as i see it, to i it will be a choice and i think the i biggest danger, as i see it, to the country. _ biggest danger, as i see it, to the country. a — biggest danger, as i see it, to the country. a fifth _ biggest danger, as i see it, to the country, a fifth term _ biggest danger, as i see it, to the country, a fifth term of— country, a fifth term of conservative _ country, a fifth term of. conservative government. country, a fifth term of— conservative government. whatever we see in _ conservative government. whatever we see in the _ conservative government. whatever we see in the other— conservative government. whatever we see in the other party— conservative government. whatever we see in the other party results, - conservative government. whatever we see in the other party results, that- see in the other party results, that will be _ see in the other party results, that will be the — see in the other party results, that will be the choice. _ see in the other party results, that will be the choice. one _ see in the other party results, that will be the choice. one of- see in the other party results, that will be the choice. one of the i will be the choice. one of the things— will be the choice. one of the things i— will be the choice. one of the things ! take _ will be the choice. one of the things i take so _ will be the choice. one of the things i take so much - will be the choice. one of the things i take so much heart i will be the choice. one of the i things i take so much heart from from _ things i take so much heart from from what — things i take so much heart from from what we _ things i take so much heart from from what we have _ things i take so much heart from from what we have seen - things i take so much heart from from what we have seen comingl things i take so much heart from i from what we have seen coming in, things i take so much heart from - from what we have seen coming in, on the brexit— from what we have seen coming in, on the brexit point, — from what we have seen coming in, on the brexit point, you _ from what we have seen coming in, on the brexit point, you know, _ from what we have seen coming in, on the brexit point, you know, it - from what we have seen coming in, on the brexit point, you know, it is - the brexit point, you know, it is areas. _ the brexit point, you know, it is areas, whether— the brexit point, you know, it is areas, whether remain- the brexit point, you know, it is areas, whether remain or- the brexit point, you know, it is| areas, whether remain or leave areas. _ areas, whether remain or leave areas. where _ areas, whether remain or leave areas, where labour— areas, whether remain or leave areas, where labour is - areas, whether remain or leave areas, where labour is beating i areas, whether remain or leave i areas, where labour is beating the conservatives. _ areas, where labour is beating the conservatives, and _ areas, where labour is beating the conservatives, and that _ areas, where labour is beating the conservatives, and that is - areas, where labour is beating the conservatives, and that is a - areas, where labour is beating the conservatives, and that is a very. conservatives, and that is a very shifty— conservatives, and that is a very sniffy and — conservatives, and that is a very sniffy and thing _ conservatives, and that is a very sniffy and thing. plymouth, i conservatives, and that is a very- sniffy and thing. plymouth, swindon, blackpool, _ sniffy and thing. plymouth, swindon, blackpool, bringing _ sniffy and thing. plymouth, swindon, blackpool, bringing the _ sniffy and thing. plymouth, swindon, blackpool, bringing the country- blackpool, bringing the country together~ — blackpool, bringing the country together~ -- _ blackpool, bringing the country together~ -- a _ blackpool, bringing the country together. —— a very— blackpool, bringing the country together. —— a very significant. together. —— a very significant thing — together. —— a very significant thing i— together. —— a very significant thing ithink— together. —— a very significant thing. ithinkthat_ together. —— a very significant thing. i think that is— together. —— a very significant thing. i think that is what i together. —— a very significant thing. i think that is what we. together. —— a very significant i thing. i think that is what we need and i_ thing. i think that is what we need and ! think— thing. i think that is what we need and ! think it— thing. i think that is what we need and i think it is — thing. i think that is what we need and i think it is clear— thing. i think that is what we need and i think it is clear labour- thing. i think that is what we need and i think it is clear labour and i and i think it is clear labour and do that — and i think it is clear labour and do that. �* . . and i think it is clear labour and do that. �*, , ,~. and i think it is clear labour and dothat. �*, , , ., ., do that. let's bring you up-to-date with some results, _ do that. let's bring you up-to-date with some results, north _ with some results, north warwickshire, the conservatives have lost it and they will be disappointed with that, they have

lost the council. 17 seats to labour's 15. lost the council. 17 seats to labour's15. it has gone to no overall control. we can see the change of seats. the conservatives down by four, labour up by one, and independence, we mustn't forget there are many thousands of independent councillors across the country in these elections. but anyway they have gained three, and we were just talking about dacorum, and said i was on the money. liberal democrat gain from the conservatives. obviously they have enough, all have been declared. 28 seats for the liberal democrats. they have gained it from the conservatives in hertfordshire, the conservatives in hertfordshire, the conservatives on 18 and you can see they have dropped by 13 seats. labour have increased by three and independence by one. congratulations. another victory for the liberal democrats. just to stick with this issue of brexit, because there is no doubt it isn't the issue it was, some might say, bearing in

mind as you quite rightly point out because we looked at some of the key word analysis on areas that voted heavily to leave and those that voted to remain, do you think you could have talked up and talked a bit more about a closer relationship with europe on the basis that those areas have come out for you even though they voted to leave? i think our position — though they voted to leave? i think our position is _ though they voted to leave? i think our position is the _ though they voted to leave? i think our position is the right _ though they voted to leave? i think our position is the right one - though they voted to leave? i think our position is the right one and i our position is the right one and the results of validating that. i know people feel strongly about this and will not change their minds. it is an important issue, and people felt very strongly about it. i genuinely believe it would be a mistake to re—litigate the whole argument. i think if you look at the terrible performance of business investment in the uk, you create a whole degree of uncertainty getting into that, but the deal is not a good one and i think the kind of things that could improve it, agricultural exports, professional qualifications, the horizon science programme that we should definitely be a member of, labour mobility issues, transport, there is a whole range of things and there will be in the next parliament, the first review period for the trade and

cooperation agreement, so these will beissues cooperation agreement, so these will be issues and i think the far more sensible approach we're taking is a route for the country that recognises how important that market will be but doesn't get back into the argument which could potentially go on forever. i the argument which could potentially go on forever-— go on forever. i will come back to this in a moment. _ go on forever. i will come back to this in a moment. my— go on forever. i will come back to this in a moment. my colleague i go on forever. i will come back to i this in a moment. my colleague vicky irwin is in ipswich covering mid suffolk. this is somewhere we have been talking about, vicky, because the greens are ever hopeful of success in your region. what is the latest? well, actually, forever hoping, and anticipation is building here because they are just two seats here because they are 'ust two seats awa from here because they are 'ust two seats away from getting — here because they are just two seats away from getting that _ here because they are just two seats away from getting that magic number, 18, away from getting that magic number, 18. where _ away from getting that magic number, 18, where they— away from getting that magic number, 18, where they would _ away from getting that magic number, 18, where they would take _ away from getting that magic number, 18, where they would take overall i 18, where they would take overall control— 18, where they would take overall control of— 18, where they would take overall control of mid _ 18, where they would take overall control of mid suffolk _ 18, where they would take overall control of mid suffolk council, i 18, where they would take overalli control of mid suffolk council, and we have _ control of mid suffolk council, and we have been_ control of mid suffolk council, and we have been waiting _ control of mid suffolk council, and we have been waiting as— control of mid suffolk council, and we have been waiting as these i we have been waiting as these declarations _ we have been waiting as these declarations have _ we have been waiting as these declarations have come - we have been waiting as these declarations have come in- we have been waiting as these declarations have come in and| we have been waiting as these i declarations have come in and the greens— declarations have come in and the greens have — declarations have come in and the greens have been _ declarations have come in and the greens have been gathering - declarations have come in and the greens have been gathering by. declarations have come in and thei greens have been gathering by the podium _ greens have been gathering by the podium by— greens have been gathering by the podium by the _ greens have been gathering by the podium by the minute, _ greens have been gathering by the podium by the minute, basically, i podium by the minute, basically, waiting _ podium by the minute, basically, waiting for— podium by the minute, basically, waiting for these _ podium by the minute, basically, waiting for these two _ podium by the minute, basically, waiting for these two results i podium by the minute, basically, waiting for these two results to i waiting for these two results to come _ waiting for these two results to come in. — waiting for these two results to come in. and _ waiting for these two results to come in, and it— waiting for these two results to come in, and it is— waiting for these two results to come in, and it is highly- waiting for these two results to come in, and it is highly likely. come in, and it is highly likely they— come in, and it is highly likely they will _ come in, and it is highly likely they will the _ come in, and it is highly likely they will. the mid _ come in, and it is highly likely they will. the mid here - come in, and it is highly likely they will. the mid here is- come in, and it is highly likely| they will. the mid here is very buoyant— they will. the mid here is very buoyant for— they will. the mid here is very buoyant for the _ they will. the mid here is very buoyant for the greens. - they will. the mid here is very buoyant for the greens. this i they will. the mid here is very| buoyant for the greens. this is they will. the mid here is very. buoyant for the greens. this is a council— buoyant for the greens. this is a council that _ buoyant for the greens. this is a council that was— buoyant for the greens. this is a council that was conservative i buoyant for the greens. this is a| council that was conservative run for 20 _

council that was conservative run for 20 years _ council that was conservative run for 20 years and _ council that was conservative run for 20 years and in— council that was conservative run for 20 years and in 2019 - council that was conservative run for 20 years and in 2019 did i council that was conservative run for 20 years and in 2019 did go. council that was conservative run| for 20 years and in 2019 did go to no overall— for 20 years and in 2019 did go to no overall control— for 20 years and in 2019 did go to no overall control with— for 20 years and in 2019 did go to no overall control with a - for 20 years and in 2019 did go to no overall control with a minority| no overall control with a minority council _ no overall control with a minority council conservative _ no overall control with a minority council conservative leader- no overall control with a minority l council conservative leader leading it, council conservative leader leading it. and _ council conservative leader leading it. and even — council conservative leader leading it, and even today _ council conservative leader leading it, and even today they— council conservative leader leading it, and even today they lost - council conservative leader leading it, and even today they lost their . it, and even today they lost their leader_ it, and even today they lost their leader of— it, and even today they lost their leader of the _ it, and even today they lost their leader of the council, _ it, and even today they lost their leader of the council, the - leader of the council, the conservative _ leader of the council, the conservative susie - leader of the council, the i conservative susie morley, leader of the council, the - conservative susie morley, so she has lost _ conservative susie morley, so she has lost her— conservative susie morley, so she has lost her seat, _ conservative susie morley, so she has lost her seat, so _ conservative susie morley, so she has lost her seat, so quite - conservative susie morley, so she. has lost her seat, so quite dramatic scenes _ has lost her seat, so quite dramatic scenes really— has lost her seat, so quite dramatic scenes. really interesting - has lost her seat, so quite dramatic scenes. really interesting to - has lost her seat, so quite dramatic scenes. really interesting to see i scenes. really interesting to see what _ scenes. really interesting to see what happens _ scenes. really interesting to see what happens and _ scenes. really interesting to see what happens and it _ scenes. really interesting to see what happens and it is— scenes. really interesting to see what happens and it is not- scenes. really interesting to see what happens and it is notjust . scenes. really interesting to see i what happens and it is notjust here in mid _ what happens and it is notjust here in mid suffolk— what happens and it is notjust here in mid suffolk but _ what happens and it is notjust here in mid suffolk but it _ what happens and it is notjust here in mid suffolk but it is _ what happens and it is notjust here in mid suffolk but it is wider- in mid suffolk but it is wider suffolk— in mid suffolk but it is wider suffolk two. _ in mid suffolk but it is wider suffolk two. east _ in mid suffolk but it is wider suffolk two. east suffolk - in mid suffolk but it is wider- suffolk two. east suffolk council with 39 — suffolk two. east suffolk council with 39 conservative _ suffolk two. east suffolk council with 39 conservative councillors| suffolk two. east suffolk council- with 39 conservative councillors has also made _ with 39 conservative councillors has also made gains _ with 39 conservative councillors has also made gains for— with 39 conservative councillors has also made gains for the _ with 39 conservative councillors has also made gains for the greens- with 39 conservative councillors has also made gains for the greens sol with 39 conservative councillors has also made gains for the greens so i| also made gains for the greens so i think— also made gains for the greens so i think there — also made gains for the greens so i think there will— also made gains for the greens so i think there will be _ also made gains for the greens so i think there will be a _ also made gains for the greens so i think there will be a change - also made gains for the greens so i think there will be a change in - think there will be a change in suffolk— think there will be a change in suffolk on— think there will be a change in suffolk on the _ think there will be a change in suffolk on the map _ think there will be a change in suffolk on the map which - think there will be a change in suffolk on the map which has| think there will be a change in . suffolk on the map which has so often _ suffolk on the map which has so often been — suffolk on the map which has so often been seen _ suffolk on the map which has so often been seen with _ suffolk on the map which has so often been seen with all- suffolk on the map which has so often been seen with all blue i suffolk on the map which has so i often been seen with all blue with the red _ often been seen with all blue with the red dot — often been seen with all blue with the red dot of— often been seen with all blue with the red dot of ipswich— often been seen with all blue with the red dot of ipswich in- often been seen with all blue with the red dot of ipswich in the - often been seen with all blue with i the red dot of ipswich in the middle and i_ the red dot of ipswich in the middle and i think— the red dot of ipswich in the middle and i think there _ the red dot of ipswich in the middle and i think there will— the red dot of ipswich in the middle and i think there will definitely - the red dot of ipswich in the middle and i think there will definitely be l and i think there will definitely be some _ and i think there will definitely be some green— and i think there will definitely be some green in— and i think there will definitely be some green in there _ and i think there will definitely be some green in there as— and i think there will definitely be some green in there as well. - and i think there will definitely be i some green in there as well. lit'lt�*iilh some green in there as well. with that anticipation _ some green in there as well. that anticipation building some green in there as well. tig-fliiiiliii that anticipation building we some green in there as well. that anticipation building we will leave you for the moment but come back to you when we have a result. vicky erwin there in ipswich. i think we can talk to shelley phelps in north warwickshire. hello, there you are. what is the latest there?

hi, jo. we have had a result. the council going from being controlled by the conservatives to no overall control but the conservatives are the largest party with 17 seats, labour on 15 and independence on three. the conservatives are quite pleased with this result because it was an labour target and earlier on today labour told me they were very confident of taking that council, this council, but that hasn't happened. the conservatives are saying some of this is due to hard—working local councillors come ha rd—working local councillors come on hard—working local councillors come on all of the literature they were saying these are local people working for local people. another factor that has been significant here, both parties are saying, the independents. they got three seats and they took seats from either party, because a key issue here in the campaign has also been the high speed two railway line which goes through part of this district, which has been heavily opposed in some

areas, very controversial.- areas, very controversial. shelley phels, areas, very controversial. shelley phelps. thank _ areas, very controversial. shelley phelps, thank you _ areas, very controversial. shelley phelps, thank you very _ areas, very controversial. shelley phelps, thank you very much. - areas, very controversial. shelley i phelps, thank you very much. let's get your response first ball. disappointed you didn't take north warwickshire? you disappointed you didn't take north warwickshire?— warwickshire? you can't win them all, can warwickshire? you can't win them all. can you? _ warwickshire? you can't win them all, can you? took _ warwickshire? you can't win them all, can you? took on _ warwickshire? you can't win them all, can you? took on that - warwickshire? you can't win them all, can you? took on that famous hrase! all, can you? took on that famous phrase! but _ all, can you? took on that famous phrase! but it _ all, can you? took on that famous phrase! but it was _ all, can you? took on that famous phrase! but it was a _ all, can you? took on that famous phrase! but it was a target. - phrase! but it was a target. laughter so far every single possible place we have gone to around the country with this kind of head—to—head with the conservatives, it has been good news. we want to win them all but you can't do that but there is enough to be happy about. like my i am hearing labour has fallen short in darlington, very much a target —— and i am hearing. very much part of the tees valley and somewhere labour wanted to make progress. as if by magic, there are the seats at the moment. a hung council with labour on 25 seats and the conservatives on 14. on 25 seats and the conservatives on ia. 50 on 25 seats and the conservatives on 14. ., ., 4' on 25 seats and the conservatives on 14. ., ., ~ ., ., yes, on 25 seats and the conservatives on 14-— yes. and - on 25 seats and the conservatives on 14-— yes. and i - 14. so look at that... yes, and i will come _ 14. so look at that... yes, and i will come to _ 14. so look at that... yes, and i will come to the _ 14. so look at that... yes, and i will come to the sea _ 14. so look at that... yes, and i will come to the sea change. i 14. so look at that... yes, and i i will come to the sea change. there is progress for labour in darlington, you have added five and the tories have lost eight, and the greens have added five as well, and

i will come to liam fox in a moment about ben houchen, the metro mayor in the tees valley. not enough obviously to stop you progressing. but that progress perhaps isn't big enoughin but that progress perhaps isn't big enough in an area you own for so long? i enough in an area you own for so lona ? . . enough in an area you own for so lonu? ., enough in an area you own for so [on ? .,, ., r', long? i was in darlington the day before the _ long? i was in darlington the day before the election. _ long? i was in darlington the day before the election. it _ long? i was in darlington the day before the election. it was - long? i was in darlington the day before the election. it was a - long? i was in darlington the day| before the election. it was a place we were very, very interested in. it was also essentially i think the only place conservative cabinet ministers were sent, as far as i can see, in the local election campaign. what you have there is a real five way politics. the danger was always we would gain seats but it wouldn't be enough to win because of the greens, two different independent groups. again, when that comes to a general election and it is labour or conservative i would be quite encouraged by that. in that area on the whole the sensational news yesterday was the middlesbrough morality, which we thought was way beyond... morality, which we thought was way be ond. .. . morality, which we thought was way be ond... . ,, morality, which we thought was way be ond... , i. ., morality, which we thought was way be ond... , ., .,~ ., beyond... yes, you have taken that from an independent, _ beyond... yes, you have taken that from an independent, and - beyond... yes, you have taken that from an independent, and it - beyond... yes, you have taken that from an independent, and it is - beyond... yes, you have taken that from an independent, and it is true | from an independent, and it is true it is split every which way in darlington. there is a problem here, liam fox, because levelling up, the

sort of dividend, as promised by borisjohnson, to a lesser extent rishi sunak, who has spoken less about it, it is not being felt, not being realised, so whatever people like ben houchen are saying is the metro mayor it is these so—called benefits not being felt in these areas and that is why you are losing ground? l areas and that is why you are losing round? . �* . areas and that is why you are losing round? ., �* , ., , ground? i haven't seen the latest results, ground? i haven't seen the latest results. and _ ground? i haven't seen the latest results, and what _ ground? i haven't seen the latest results, and what john _ ground? i haven't seen the latest results, and what john curtice - ground? i haven't seen the latest| results, and what john curtice has results, and whatjohn curtice has been _ results, and whatjohn curtice has been saying about them but the latest _ been saying about them but the latest results we could look at this morning _ latest results we could look at this morning showed the swing to labour was smaller in the north—east, the north— was smaller in the north—east, the north of— was smaller in the north—east, the north of england, then down into the midlands. _ north of england, then down into the midlands, and in elections like walsall— midlands, and in elections like walsall for example where you saw no swing _ walsall for example where you saw no swing effectively to labour at all. but you _ swing effectively to labour at all. but you held walsall. but what about my question about levelling up? stoke—on—trent has gone. that was a part of the world in staffordshire, east staffordshire as well, parts of the world that we are relying and to some extent folding on the issue of levelling up. it hasn't happened and thatis levelling up. it hasn't happened and that is why they have withdrawn support. for

that is why they have withdrawn su ort. ., . ., that is why they have withdrawn su--ort. ., . ., ., ., , support. for a lot of them the money we would have _ support. for a lot of them the money we would have wanted _ support. for a lot of them the money we would have wanted to _ support. for a lot of them the money we would have wanted to put - support. for a lot of them the money we would have wanted to put into - we would have wanted to put into these _ we would have wanted to put into these especially big infrastructure projects— these especially big infrastructure projects have been hit by the big rise in— projects have been hit by the big rise in government debt payments which _ rise in government debt payments which have actually reduced the flexibility the treasury has in terms — flexibility the treasury has in terms of... flexibility the treasury has in terms of. . ._ flexibility the treasury has in terms of... , , , ., terms of... they punish you for it. but still what — terms of... they punish you for it. but still what is _ terms of... they punish you for it. but still what is interesting - terms of... they punish you for it. but still what is interesting is - terms of... they punish you for it. but still what is interesting is the | but still what is interesting is the bigger— but still what is interesting is the bigger swings to labour have been in the south _ bigger swings to labour have been in the south of the country, rather than _ the south of the country, rather than in — the south of the country, rather than in the _ the south of the country, rather than in the north of the country. and they— than in the north of the country. and they really do need to make gains _ and they really do need to make gains up — and they really do need to make gains up there. that is part of why isaid— gains up there. that is part of why isaid at— gains up there. that is part of why i said at the — gains up there. that is part of why i said at the beginning i think if you look— i said at the beginning i think if you look the overall swing of somewhere between 3.5 and 4% now it is well— somewhere between 3.5 and 4% now it is well below the swing required by labour— is well below the swing required by labour to— is well below the swing required by labour to win is well below the swing required by labourto win a is well below the swing required by labour to win a general election. all the _ labour to win a general election. all the caveats we have already talked — all the caveats we have already talked about, that they are not the same _ talked about, that they are not the same thing, but the swing is not as bil same thing, but the swing is not as big as _ same thing, but the swing is not as big as it— same thing, but the swing is not as big as it would need to be, nor do i think. _ big as it would need to be, nor do i think. as _ big as it would need to be, nor do i think. as i — big as it would need to be, nor do i think, as i would have expected had i think, as i would have expected had i been _ think, as i would have expected had i been on _ think, as i would have expected had i been on here at the labour party chairnran. — i been on here at the labour party chairman, saying, we have been in office _ chairman, saying, we have been in office for— chairman, saying, we have been in office for 13 — chairman, saying, we have been in office for 13 years, you had all these — office for 13 years, you had all these little battles last year, suffered from high inflation, whatever the cause, so why is labour not crossing —

whatever the cause, so why is labour not crossing that line? let�*s whatever the cause, so why is labour not crossing that line?— not crossing that line? let's get jonathan to _ not crossing that line? let's get jonathan to respond. _ not crossing that line? let's get jonathan to respond. you - not crossing that line? let's get jonathan to respond. you have. not crossing that line? let's get i jonathan to respond. you have lost everywhere! _ jonathan to respond. you have lost everywhere! north, _ jonathan to respond. you have lost everywhere! north, south, - jonathan to respond. you have lost everywhere! north, south, east, . everywhere! north, south, east, west, and in the places where we have these head—to—head battles labour has won and obviously we are not complacent, we are humble about that, but we couldn't have achieved any more... with getting scotland into more competitive position which you can't have... . ~ competitive position which you can't have... w' . have... vicki is right, there will be a despite — have... vicki is right, there will be a despite about _ have... vicki is right, there will be a despite about it _ have... vicki is right, there will be a despite about it because l have... vicki is right, there will| be a despite about it because as have... vicki is right, there will- be a despite about it because as we know there are places where these elections weren't fought and although when we finally get to it, the projected national share it would be based on everyone in the country voting and the three main parties contesting, we will have a slightly better idea about historic comparisons and where parties were and the percentage vote share they

hold and held in these elections, we will give an indication you both agree you can't say categorically one way or the other. {lit agree you can't say categorically one way or the other.— agree you can't say categorically one way or the other. of course not. richt. one way or the other. of course not. riht. i one way or the other. of course not. right- i would _ one way or the other. of course not. right. i would say... _ one way or the other. of course not. right. i would say... you _ one way or the other. of course not. right. i would say... you are - right. i would say... you are accepting — right. i would say... you are accepting labour— right. i would say... you are accepting labour is - right. i would say... you are accepting labour is largest i right. i would say... you are i accepting labour is largest party on those _ accepting labour is largest party on those numbers. not an overall nraiority— those numbers. not an overall majority necessarily but it's a rejection _ majority necessarily but it's a rejection of the conservative party. i am rejection of the conservative party. i am not _ rejection of the conservative party. i am not the — rejection of the conservative party. i am not the one who came tout say on these results labour is heading for an overall majority in parliament for an overall ma'ority in parliament �* . , for an overall ma'ority in parliamen. �* ., , for an overall ma'ority in parliamen �* ., , ., ., parliament but you are being asked a different question. _ parliament but you are being asked a different question. you _ parliament but you are being asked a different question. you know - parliament but you are being asked a different question. you know on i different question. you know on basis, different question. you know on basis. 49! _ different question. you know on basis, 4% swing, _ different question. you know on basis, 4% swing, it _ different question. you know on basis, 496 swing, it could - different question. you know on basis, 496 swing, it could be. i different question. you know on | basis, 496 swing, it could be. but different question. you know on i basis, 496 swing, it could be. but in basis, 4% swing, it could be. but in 2019. _ basis, 4% swing, it could be. but in 2019. our— basis, 4% swing, it could be. but in 2019, our projected vote shares for the two _ 2019, our projected vote shares for the two national parties the looking across— the two national parties the looking across all— the two national parties the looking across all the elections was 289, 28 for labour. — across all the elections was 289, 28 for labour, they were nothing like the results — for labour, they were nothing like the results. | for labour, they were nothing like the results— for labour, they were nothing like the results. i am coming to sarah, she hasn't — the results. i am coming to sarah, she hasn't had _ the results. i am coming to sarah, she hasn't had a _ the results. i am coming to sarah, she hasn't had a chance. _ the results. i am coming to sarah, she hasn't had a chance. the i she hasn't had a chance. the conservative _ she hasn't had a chance. the conservative party _ she hasn't had a chance. the conservative party is - she hasn't had a chance. tie: conservative party is so she hasn't had a chance. tte: conservative party is so out she hasn't had a chance. tt9: conservative party is so out of touch they don't know when they have lost an election. flan touch they don't know when they have lost an election.— lost an election. can i say liam kee-ain lost an election. can i say liam keeping going _ lost an election. can i say liam keeping going on _ lost an election. can i say liam keeping going on about - lost an election. can i say liam keeping going on about vote i lost an election. can i say liam i keeping going on about vote share but he knows it comes down seats,

both at local elections and general election and conservatives are losing seats everywhere. and am confident you will be here for a bit liam. i am going to get... that is enough. we are going to talk to the bbc�*s political editor chris mason, chris, you may have been hearing some of the discussion in here, it is very much about whether or not taking what we know so far in these local election results are, labour on course to be the largest party, they say on course to win a majority t liam fox for the conservatives is saying oh no, not necessarily. but i think you can talk to us a bit about conservatives assessing their own performance. yes conservatives assessing their own performance-— conservatives assessing their own performance. yes sorry to interrupt that lively discussion, _ performance. yes sorry to interrupt that lively discussion, i _ performance. yes sorry to interrupt that lively discussion, i will - performance. yes sorry to interrupt that lively discussion, i will allow i that lively discussion, i will allow it to resume in a moment or two. what is viking as we see the conservative losses is the beginnings of the recriminations, the sniping that is going on, within the sniping that is going on, within the party, what has been striking in

the party, what has been striking in the last sixth months since rishi sunak became prime minister is how he and the party have managed to put a lid on that outbreak of civil war that happened last autumn. i am not suggesting that is about to restart but we are hearing whisperings of discontent. perhaps inevitable given what has happened overnight and into this afternoon, i want to show you a quote from a figure loyal to boris johnson and liz truss, the two former prime ministers of the last year. let me show you what this figure said to me, rishi has no option but to own these result, he has been chancellor or prime ministerfor has been chancellor or prime minister for virtually all of the last three years, and it was he and his supporters who forced boris and then liz out of office, in order to install him in downing street. the old saying goes, that it is the economy that defines the choice voters have, he was the chancellor who had presided over the stagnation

of the british economy, and hiked taxes to the highest level in 70 years while failing to seize any of the advantages of leaving the european union. it is little wonder, so many previous conservative voters failed to back us yesterday. i so many previous conservative voters failed to back us yesterday.— failed to back us yesterday. i think m one failed to back us yesterday. i think my one word _ failed to back us yesterday. i think my one word analysis _ failed to back us yesterday. i think my one word analysis of _ failed to back us yesterday. i think my one word analysis of that i failed to back us yesterday. i think| my one word analysis of that would be ouch. ~ :. my one word analysis of that would be ouch. ~ :, , :, my one word analysis of that would beouch. ~ :, , :, , be ouch. what we should say, is look, be ouch. what we should say, is look. this _ be ouch. what we should say, is look. this is _ be ouch. what we should say, is look, this is people _ be ouch. what we should say, is look, this is people whispering l be ouch. what we should say, is i look, this is people whispering into the ear of the bbc political editor rather than marching out and saying something similar in front of the cameras which would be on another level. everyone those who are of the view are not suggesting that this amounts to a desire within the conservative party to topple rishi sunak, there is a sense among conservatives that after the last year they have had enough of spectacular firework, year they have had enough of spectacularfirework, civil year they have had enough of spectacular firework, civil war and contemplating oblivion and even his biggest critic, internally, privately acknowledge that rishi sunak is going to take the party

into the next general election, but i think what is striking, when you hear these kinds of noises off, is that for conservative mps this afternoon, looking at where they represent in parliament, mirroring or matching it overlaying the map of how things might have been at their local authority last night and this afternoon, inever tanibly at a human level that will prompt jitters from them. when the jut rears coastguard late, if those ching —— things can when they return after the coronation, how does that mood come together, and how does it express itself, and i think what we are getting a sense off is that the noises off, within the conservative party, mightjust be ratcheting up a bit compared with the publicly at least sense of discipline there has been since october. one final thought, i think what we are seeing this afternoon is almost a reaction on the accelerator to the results we are seeing, because westminster is very aware that there is a small

matter of a coronation coming up in the next 24 hours or so so the long tail of election analysis that trundles on for the entire weekend after a set of local elections or a january election, is going to promptly stop once we get into all things coronation, so, to that extent i think there is a fast forwarding of the stuff that maybe in a conventional post—election few days you might see splashed over the sunday newspaper. irate days you might see splashed over the sunday newspaper-— sunday newspaper. we will resume this next week, _ sunday newspaper. we will resume this next week, it _ sunday newspaper. we will resume this next week, it won't _ sunday newspaper. we will resume this next week, it won't be - this next week, it won't be forgotten, liam fox is laughing here in the studio, at that thought of pressing pause on politics for a few days and returning. chris mason, thank you. let me remind you of some of the lines, rishi has no option but to own these results, he can't say, it was, what were the words, the box set drama of last year because he was chancellor, for a lot of it and it is about the economy, and it was his supporters who forced out borisjohnson and liz truss, in

order to improve conservative fortune, they haven't improved. first of all i have heard these unattributable briefings a lot. i have read in the press... people aren't talking — have read in the press... people aren't talking to _ have read in the press... people aren't talking to you _ have read in the press... people aren't talking to you about i have read in the press... people. aren't talking to you about them? no, people have these, don't whisper anonymously but say it, and we are talking earlier about the quality and honour in politickers i think rishi sunak has brought a competence and confidence back to the parliamentary party, thatjust parliamentary party, that just wasn't parliamentary party, thatjust wasn't there, and this idea that this was a plot, to undermine boris johnson, and then liz truss, they were more than capable of making their own decisions at the time, and i think there is... he their own decisions at the time, and i think there is. . ._ i think there is... he should own the result. _ i think there is... he should own the result, he _ i think there is... he should own the result, he is— i think there is... he should own the result, he is the _ i think there is... he should own the result, he is the prime i the result, he is the prime minister. the result, he is the prime minister-— the result, he is the prime minister. ~ , ., ., minister. absolutely and he will own these results, _ minister. absolutely and he will own these results, and _ minister. absolutely and he will own these results, and the _ minister. absolutely and he will own these results, and the prime i these results, and the prime minister will recognise that these are not great results for the conservative party, but he will... or for him? conservative party, but he will... 0rfor him?— or for him? but he will also recognise — or for him? but he will also recognise that _

or for him? but he will also recognise that when i or for him? but he will also recognise that when a i or for him? but he will also recognise that when a party or for him? but he will also i recognise that when a party has or for him? but he will also - recognise that when a party has been in office for 13 year, everyone if you have only been the prime ministerfor six months you have only been the prime minister for six months there you have only been the prime ministerfor six months there is you have only been the prime minister for six months there is a long hangoverfrom what minister for six months there is a long hangover from what has been there, we know that, we know that there, we know that, we know that the public are not happy about the rate of inflation and the problems they face. but rate of inflation and the problems the face. �* ., , :, they face. but so far he is not changing _ they face. but so far he is not changing the _ they face. but so far he is not changing the weather i they face. but so far he is not changing the weather and i they face. but so far he is not| changing the weather and that they face. but so far he is not i changing the weather and that is point. the point is... i changing the weather and that is point. the point is...— point. the point is... i disagree that. point. the point is... i disagree that- these _ point. the point is... i disagree that. these results _ point. the point is... i disagree that. these results don't i point. the point is... i disagree that. these results don't show| point. the point is... i disagree i that. these results don't show that if this election _ that. these results don't show that if this election had _ that. these results don't show that if this election had been _ that. these results don't show that if this election had been held i that. these results don't show that if this election had been held six i if this election had been held six month pesing a you would have seen an amazing worse set. 50 month pesing a you would have seen an amazing worse set.— an amazing worse set. so it's a less catastrophic— an amazing worse set. so it's a less catastrophic result _ an amazing worse set. so it's a less catastrophic result than _ an amazing worse set. so it's a less catastrophic result than it _ an amazing worse set. so it's a less catastrophic result than it would i catastrophic result than it would have been catastrophic result than it would have bee :. . catastrophic result than it would have bee :, , :, catastrophic result than it would havebee :, , :, ., , have been that is how you would put it. iwould have been that is how you would put it- i would put _ have been that is how you would put it. i would put it— have been that is how you would put it. i would put it as _ have been that is how you would put it. i would put it as the _ have been that is how you would put it. i would put it as the fact - have been that is how you would put it. i would put it as the fact that i it. i would put it as the fact that the prime minister is bringing leadership and confidence and competence. leadership and confidence and competence-— leadership and confidence and com etence. , , . :, , competence. thus these elections where can you _ competence. thus these elections where can you see _ competence. thus these elections where can you see that _ competence. thus these elections where can you see that apart i competence. thus these elections where can you see that apart from competence. thus these elections i where can you see that apart from a couple of places? in where can you see that apart from a coople of places?— couple of places? in walsall, in peterborough. _ couple of places? in walsall, in peterborough. in _ couple of places? in walsall, in peterborough. in those i couple of places? in walsall, in peterborough. in those couple | couple of places? in walsall, in i peterborough. in those couple of lace, peterborough. in those couple of place. that _ peterborough. in those couple of place. that is _ peterborough. in those couple of place, that is one _ peterborough. in those couple of place, that is one or— peterborough. in those couple of place, that is one or two, i peterborough. in those couple of place, that is one or two, we i peterborough. in those couple of| place, that is one or two, we have 230 councils is, we have got labour winning councils, flipping councils in the south—west, we have them in the midlands, we have them in

staffordshire, we have them in the north east, we have the liberal democrats doing it in the south, so... i t democrats doing it in the south, so... i . :, democrats doing it in the south, so... i :, democrats doing it in the south, so...i :, so... i i come back to the same oint. so... i i come back to the same point- if — so... i i come back to the same point. if labour _ so... i i come back to the same point. if labour are _ so... i i come back to the same point. if labour are about i so... i i come back to the same point. if labour are about to i so... i i come back to the same i point. if labour are about to deal a cataclysmic blow to the conservative party, why are they getting a swing of 3.5 to 4%. 50 party, why are they getting a swing of 3-5 to 496-— party, why are they getting a swing of 3.5 to 496. so nothing changes so the conservative _ of 3.5 to 496. so nothing changes so the conservative also _ of 3.5 to 496. so nothing changes so the conservative also do _ of 3.5 to 496. so nothing changes so the conservative also do what i of 3.5 to 4%. so nothing changes so the conservative also do what they. the conservative also do what they have been doing, rishi sunak should keep going on about the five pledges and nothing change, that is not usually the response in politics when you have a terrible set of results he when you have a terrible set of result a a, , l, , results he recognise what is the roblems results he recognise what is the problems are. _ results he recognise what is the problems are, we _ results he recognise what is the problems are, we have - results he recognise what is the problems are, we have got - results he recognise what is the problems are, we have got to i results he recognise what is the l problems are, we have got to get results he recognise what is the - problems are, we have got to get the public finances sorted, we have to get more growth in the economy, we have to got... get more growth in the economy, we have to get - -— have to got... people will think you have to got... people will think you have 13 years _ have to got... people will think you have 13 years of _ have to got... people will think you have 13 years of conservative - have to got... people will think you have 13 years of conservative rule l have 13 years of conservative rule maybe not under rishi sunak, there is one thing i need to bring with jonathan. but, there is one issue, and that is his personal poll rate, his personal ratings aren't that bad. they are more popular, they

aren't that bad compared to the conservative party. interestingly for labour, the labour party seems to do better in its polling with people, than keir starmer personally, does that matter? look, first of all the _ personally, does that matter? look, first of all the rishi _ personally, does that matter? look, first of all the rishi sunak— personally, does that matter? look, first of all the rishi sunak polls - first of all the rishi sunak polls slightly— first of all the rishi sunak polls slightly better than liz truss, what is the _ slightly better than liz truss, what is the bar— slightly better than liz truss, what is the bar people? pick someone at random _ is the bar people? pick someone at random and — is the bar people? pick someone at random and they could say that. second — random and they could say that. second of— random and they could say that. second of all with keir starmer you have someone who has turned round the labour— have someone who has turned round the labour party, in a way which has made _ the labour party, in a way which has made us _ the labour party, in a way which has made us competitive, in a way which let us_ made us competitive, in a way which let us he _ made us competitive, in a way which let us be honest is unprecedented in british— let us be honest is unprecedented in british political history, if we win the next — british political history, if we win the next general election as we think— the next general election as we think we — the next general election as we think we can, i don't think you will think we can, idon't think you will ever— think we can, idon't think you will ever seen— think we can, i don't think you will ever seen it — think we can, i don't think you will ever seen it is like going from 83 to 97 _ ever seen it is like going from 83 to 97 and — ever seen it is like going from 83 to 97 and i— ever seen it is like going from 83 to 97 and i think in keir starmer you have— to 97 and i think in keir starmer you have someone people can recognise _ you have someone people can recognise being the prime minister and do _ recognise being the prime minister and do it— recognise being the prime minister and do it for the right reason, we hevent— and do it for the right reason, we haven't had — and do it for the right reason, we haven't had that for many of the years— haven't had that for many of the years and — haven't had that for many of the years and that is what i think is so exciting _ years and that is what i think is so exciting and — years and that is what i think is so exciting and i would say to everyone in this— exciting and i would say to everyone in this country, come and be part of it.

in this country, come and be part of it will— in this country, come and be part of it will he _ in this country, come and be part of it will he a — in this country, come and be part of it. will be a huge moment of change, these _ it. will be a huge moment of change, these are _ it. will be a huge moment of change, these are the moments where we take these are the moments where we take the country— these are the moments where we take the country forward, and i think we can do— the country forward, and i think we can do that — the country forward, and i think we can do that again.— can do that again. what is interesting _ can do that again. what is interesting is _ can do that again. what is interesting is that - can do that again. what is interesting is that policy l can do that again. what is - interesting is that policy wise, a lot of the proposals being put forward by you and your labour colleagues are much the same as the conservative, broadly speaking, you don't want to rock the boat. that is lame floor 95, 96, you didn't do anything that dramatic at the time he has dropped the pledges to nationalise key utilities, he has decided not to scrap tuition fees with, rightly or wrongly i am not making a judgment about these things, and he, keir starmer, is going to come in with the sort of prospect that says we are going to do what the tories do but better. we have some and the lose hissing dividing — have some and the lose hissing dividing line, you have us for house building _ dividing line, you have us for house building and — dividing line, you have us for house building and home ownership and nimbyism described as we have a close _ nimbyism described as we have a close errelationship with europe, getting _ close errelationship with europe, getting the economy moving, a big green _ getting the economy moving, a big green investment programme similar

to what— green investment programme similar to what the _ green investment programme similar to what the biden administration has done in _ to what the biden administration has done in the _ to what the biden administration has done in the us, we have a return to proper— done in the us, we have a return to proper long—term industrial policy we have _ proper long—term industrial policy we have none of them from the government. we think we the deliver better— government. we think we the deliver better public service, but there will he — better public service, but there will be real choice and say let us bring _ will be real choice and say let us bring that— will be real choice and say let us bring that on what with are seeing the public— bring that on what with are seeing the public are look at the choice and saying we will take labour now. the choice _ and saying we will take labour now. the choice of prime minister is key, and it is because rishi is more popular with the conservative party because he has high ratings on trust and a range of other issues but the labour party have, as we discussed, started to attack him personally, rather than to attack the conservatives and it is this attack, the personal attack, rishi sunak doesn't want to put paedophiles... ridiculous gut irpolitics i think if the labour party don't drop that, then, keir starmerwill the labour party don't drop that, then, keir starmer will be seen to be the king of the sewer in politics the hands will be deeply damaging to his prospects. i the hands will be deeply damaging to his prospects-— his prospects. i think people see in keir starmer _ his prospects. i think people see in keir starmer something, _ his prospects. i think people see in keir starmer something, we - his prospects. i think people see in| keir starmer something, we haven't had enough —

keir starmer something, we haven't had enough of in british poll turk, a working — had enough of in british poll turk, a working class lad who has done well, _ a working class lad who has done well, who— a working class lad who has done well, who wants to make a difference, who has the ability, and having _ difference, who has the ability, and having a _ difference, who has the ability, and having a leader of the opposition people _ having a leader of the opposition people see as a prime minister is a significant — people see as a prime minister is a significant asset s people see as a prime minister is a significant asset 5 it people see as a prime minister is a significant asset s— significant asset s it seems typical ofthe significant asset s it seems typical of the tories _ significant asset s it seems typical of the tories they _ significant asset s it seems typical of the tories they have _ significant asset s it seems typical of the tories they have gone - significant asset s it seems typical of the tories they have gone for i of the tories they have gone for another— of the tories they have gone for another toxic— the king is currently meeting commonwealth heads of state. i met westminster abbey where final preparations for tomorrow's coronation as a clear queen consort attend a final return saw her. the world have organisation says covid—i9 no longer represents a

global health emergency. in the uk, the conservatives have a significant council losses in local election results. in the wagner group hosts a social media video. welcome to bbc news. it is a big day here in london. my colleague cristian fraser is at buckingham palace. ., ., , ., ., , palace. you would struggle to ad'ust appropriately — palace. you would struggle to ad'ust appropriately today. i palace. you would struggle to ad'ust appropriately today. it is i palace. you would struggle to ad'ust appropriately today. it is raining h appropriately today. it is raining and then the sun comes out, it is looking glorious again it was glorious in factjust in the last hour as we saw the king and the

senior members of, heading down the mall, the crowd is four or five deep at the barriers. they have had plenty of warning that to me that this was happening as it is he behind me, everything is being sealed off her ahead of the garden party this evening and the king ali and they have been meeting governors general. iii countries including new zealand, canada and australia. he left the palace on his way down to marlborough house where he is meeting commonwealth leaders this afternoon. got out the car and as you can see, spent about 20 minutes or half an hour shaking hands with people who are queueing patiently at the top of the mall. the prince and princess of wales down the left—hand side and king charles down the right hand side. lots of commonwealth lives, lots of people here flown in

specially for the event today. there is the princess of wales. let's have a listen to some of what was said as they were at the barriers.— they were at the barriers. excited, a bit nervous. _ they were at the barriers. excited, a bit nervous, big _ they were at the barriers. excited, a bit nervous, big day _ they were at the barriers. excited, a bit nervous, big day ahead. - they were at the barriers. excited, a bit nervous, big day ahead. me i they were at the barriers. excited, i a bit nervous, big day ahead. me and william _ a bit nervous, big day ahead. me and william are _ a bit nervous, big day ahead. me and william are all — a bit nervous, big day ahead. me and william are all good,. _ a bit nervous, big day ahead. me and william are all good,. what - a bit nervous, big day ahead. me and william are all good,. what about. william are all good,. what about kin- william are all good,. what about king charles? _ william are all good,. what about king charles? i'm _ william are all good,. what about king charles? i'm sure _ william are all good,. what about king charles? i'm sure he - william are all good,. what about king charles? i'm sure he is- william are all good,. what about l king charles? i'm sure he is looking forward _ king charles? i'm sure he is looking forward to— king charles? i'm sure he is looking forward to it — king charles? i'm sure he is looking forward to it. it's— king charles? i'm sure he is looking forward to it. it's nice _ king charles? i'm sure he is looking forward to it. it's nice to— king charles? i'm sure he is looking forward to it. it's nice to say- forward to it. it's nice to say helio— forward to it. it's nice to say hello to _ forward to it. it's nice to say hello to everyone _ forward to it. it's nice to say hello to everyone who - forward to it. it's nice to say hello to everyone who has l forward to it. it's nice to say- hello to everyone who has stayed out and some _ hello to everyone who has stayed out and some people _ hello to everyone who has stayed out and some people are _ hello to everyone who has stayed out and some people are staying - and some people are staying overnight _ and some people are staying overnight. are _ and some people are staying overnight. are you _ and some people are staying overnight. are you out- and some people are staying - overnight. are you out overnight? yes, _ overnight. are you out overnight? yes. hopefullv_ overnight. are you out overnight? yes, hopefully it _ overnight. are you out overnight? yes, hopefully it will _ overnight. are you out overnight? yes, hopefully it will be _ overnight. are you out overnight? yes, hopefully it will be dry. - overnight. are you out overnight? yes, hopefully it will be dry. it’s l yes, hopefully it will be dry. it's really great- _ yes, hopefully it will be dry. it's really great. yes, an early start but i _ really great. yes, an early start but i think— really great. yes, an early start but i think everyone _ really great. yes, an early start but i think everyone has. - really great. yes, an early start but i think everyone has. very. really great. yes, an early start. but i think everyone has. very nice to see _ but i think everyone has. very nice to see. ., , ., , ., ., .,

to see. lots of nerves ahead of tomorrow _ to see. lots of nerves ahead of tomorrow. of _ to see. lots of nerves ahead of tomorrow. of course _ to see. lots of nerves ahead of tomorrow. of course prince - to see. lots of nerves ahead of - tomorrow. of course prince george, one of the young members of the royalfamily will be one of the young members of the royal family will be playing a role tomorrow, he a page in the ceremony and so he will probably be going through his paces over the next few hours. so he knows what he is doing tomorrow. an exciting role for him tomorrow. an exciting role for him to play. in the 42nd your listing to the princess of wales, we have just seen the car with the royals going past, after attending the gala party at marlborough house. the people who are still on the model b just seen him. who have you got with the? i’zre him. who have you got with the? i've not the him. who have you got with the? i've got the wonderful debbie hoover. you 'ust got the wonderful debbie hoover. you iust saw— got the wonderful debbie hoover. you just saw king charles go past. but you are _ just saw king charles go past. but you are more excited because you got to meet— you are more excited because you got to meet the _ you are more excited because you got to meet the prince and princess of wales? _ to meet the prince and princess of wales? , . ., , , ., ,, ., wales? very excited to speak to them, wales? very excited to speak to them. shake _ wales? very excited to speak to them, shake the _ wales? very excited to speak to them, shake the hand, - wales? very excited to speak to them, shake the hand, asked i wales? very excited to speak to - them, shake the hand, asked about them, shake the hand, asked about the children — them, shake the hand, asked about the children. mentions— them, shake the hand, asked about the children. mentions the - them, shake the hand, asked about the children. mentions the prince . them, shake the hand, asked about the children. mentions the prince isj the children. mentions the prince is

that my— the children. mentions the prince is that my aunt — the children. mentions the prince is that my aunt couldn't _ the children. mentions the prince is that my aunt couldn't come - the children. mentions the prince is| that my aunt couldn't come because she broke _ that my aunt couldn't come because she broke her— that my aunt couldn't come because she broke her foot— that my aunt couldn't come because she broke her foot and _ that my aunt couldn't come because she broke her foot and then - that my aunt couldn't come because she broke her foot and then we - that my aunt couldn't come because she broke her foot and then we had| she broke her foot and then we had in the _ she broke her foot and then we had in the phone — she broke her foot and then we had in the phone to _ she broke her foot and then we had in the phone to kate _ she broke her foot and then we had in the phone to kate and _ she broke her foot and then we had in the phone to kate and she - she broke her foot and then we hadj in the phone to kate and she talked to my— in the phone to kate and she talked to my aunt — in the phone to kate and she talked to my aunt. verv— in the phone to kate and she talked to my aunt. very down _ in the phone to kate and she talked to my aunt. very down to _ in the phone to kate and she talked to my aunt. very down to earth, - in the phone to kate and she talked i to my aunt. very down to earth, very special— to my aunt. very down to earth, very special ladv~ — to my aunt. very down to earth, very special lady-— special lady. you have a wonderful adornment — special lady. you have a wonderful adornment on _ special lady. you have a wonderful adornment on your _ special lady. you have a wonderful adornment on your head. - special lady. you have a wonderful adornment on your head. it - special lady. you have a wonderful adornment on your head. it is - special lady. you have a wonderful adornment on your head. it is not| adornment on your head. it is not the first— adornment on your head. it is not the first royal visit it's hard is it? ~ the first royal visit it's hard is it? . _, the first royal visit it's hard is it? p .. ., the first royal visit it's hard is it? ., ., ,~. the first royal visit it's hard is it? ., ., ~ it? we came to harry and megan's weddina , it? we came to harry and megan's wedding. she _ it? we came to harry and megan's wedding, she had _ it? we came to harry and megan's wedding, she had to _ it? we came to harry and megan's wedding, she had to make - it? we came to harry and megan's wedding, she had to make a - it? we came to harry and megan's. wedding, she had to make a return. it? we came to harry and megan's i wedding, she had to make a return. i was not _ wedding, she had to make a return. i was not wearing _ wedding, she had to make a return. i was not wearing it _ wedding, she had to make a return. i was not wearing it when _ wedding, she had to make a return. i was not wearing it when they- wedding, she had to make a return. i was not wearing it when they came . was not wearing it when they came but maybe — was not wearing it when they came but nrayhe they _ was not wearing it when they came but maybe they will _ was not wearing it when they came but maybe they will see _ was not wearing it when they came but maybe they will see it - was not wearing it when they came l but maybe they will see it tomorrow. he said _ but maybe they will see it tomorrow. he said you _ but maybe they will see it tomorrow. he said you missed _ but maybe they will see it tomorrow. he said you missed your— but maybe they will see it tomorrow. he said you missed your children's . he said you missed your children's birthdays? — he said you missed your children's birthda s? . he said you missed your children's birthda s? , ~ ., ., birthdays? yes, megan can come to the wedding — birthdays? yes, megan can come to the wedding because _ birthdays? yes, megan can come to the wedding because it _ birthdays? yes, megan can come to the wedding because it is _ birthdays? yes, megan can come to the wedding because it is arty's - the wedding because it is arty's birthday— the wedding because it is arty's birthday and _ the wedding because it is arty's birthday and tomorrow- the wedding because it is arty's birthday and tomorrow is - the wedding because it is arty's birthday and tomorrow is also l the wedding because it is arty's l birthday and tomorrow is also my child's— birthday and tomorrow is also my child's birthday— birthday and tomorrow is also my child's birthday so _ birthday and tomorrow is also my child's birthday so i _ birthday and tomorrow is also my child's birthday so i thought - birthday and tomorrow is also my child's birthday so i thought i- child's birthday so i thought i could — child's birthday so i thought i could he _ child's birthday so i thought i could be prince _ child's birthday so i thought i could be prince harry's- child's birthday so i thought i could be prince harry's plus. child's birthday so i thought i- could be prince harry's plus one. it

is great _ could be prince harry's plus one. it is great the — could be prince harry's plus one. it is great. the british _ could be prince harry's plus one. it is great. the british people - could be prince harry's plus one. it is great. the british people are - is great. the british people are wonderful. _ is great. the british people are wonderful, love _ is great. the british people are wonderful, love them. - is great. the british people are wonderful, love them. met- is great. the british people are . wonderful, love them. met some americans— wonderful, love them. met some americans and _ wonderful, love them. met some americans and other— wonderful, love them. met some americans and other countries i wonderful, love them. met some i americans and other countries here. why did _ americans and other countries here. why did you — americans and other countries here. why did you feel _ americans and other countries here. why did you feel it _ americans and other countries here. why did you feel it was _ americans and other countries here. why did you feel it was so _ americans and other countries here. why did you feel it was so importantj why did you feel it was so important to come _ why did you feel it was so important to come all— why did you feel it was so important to come all the way from texas for this? _ to come all the way from texas for this? |_ to come all the way from texas for this? ., to come all the way from texas for this? . ., ., ., , to come all the way from texas for this? . ., ., , ,, this? i am a royalfamily 'unkie. i love the royal * this? i am a royalfamily 'unkie. i love the royal family, h this? i am a royalfamilyjunkie. i love the royalfamily, everything| love the royal family, everything about— love the royal family, everything about it. — love the royal family, everything about it. i— love the royal family, everything about it, i love _ love the royal family, everything about it, i love london. - love the royal family, everything about it, i love london. hobar- love the royalfamily, everything about it, i love london. how much they mean — about it, i love london. how much they mean to _ about it, i love london. how much they mean to you _ about it, i love london. how much they mean to you to _ about it, i love london. how much they mean to you to shake - about it, i love london. how much they mean to you to shake the - about it, i love london. how much i they mean to you to shake the hands of the _ they mean to you to shake the hands of the royal family? | they mean to you to shake the hands of the royal family?— of the royalfamily? i properly won't ever— of the royalfamily? i properly won't ever wash _ of the royalfamily? i properly won't ever wash my _ of the royalfamily? i properly won't ever wash my right - of the royalfamily? i properly won't ever wash my right hand of the royal family? i properly - won't ever wash my right hand again. meant— won't ever wash my right hand again. meant that _ won't ever wash my right hand again. meant that much _ won't ever wash my right hand again. meant that much do _ won't ever wash my right hand again. meant that much do you? _ won't ever wash my right hand again. meant that much do you? so - won't ever wash my right hand again. meant that much do you? so excited, i never thought _ meant that much do you? so excited, i never thought that _ meant that much do you? so excited, i never thought that would _ meant that much do you? so excited, i never thought that would happen. i i never thought that would happen. my mum _ i never thought that would happen. my mum handed _ i never thought that would happen. my mum handed her— i never thought that would happen. my mum handed her phone - i never thought that would happen. my mum handed her phone to - i never thought that would happen. - my mum handed her phone to princess kate and _ my mum handed her phone to princess kate and she _ my mum handed her phone to princess kate and she spoke _ my mum handed her phone to princess kate and she spoke to _ my mum handed her phone to princess kate and she spoke to my— my mum handed her phone to princess kate and she spoke to my answer. - my mum handed her phone to princess kate and she spoke to my answer. a l kate and she spoke to my answer. a si-n kate and she spoke to my answer. a sign that— kate and she spoke to my answer. a sign that and — kate and she spoke to my answer. a sign that and if— kate and she spoke to my answer. a sign that and if you _ kate and she spoke to my answer. a sign that and if you aren't _ kate and she spoke to my answer. a sign that and if you aren't ready - sign that and if you aren't ready believe — sign that and if you aren't ready believe it? _ sign that and if you aren't ready believe it? no, _ sign that and if you aren't ready believe it? no, she _ sign that and if you aren't ready believe it? no, she thought- sign that and if you aren't ready believe it? no, she thought it i sign that and if you aren't ready i believe it? no, she thought it was sign that and if you aren't ready - believe it? no, she thought it was a joke _

believe it? no, she thought it was a joke we _ believe it? no, she thought it was a joke we then— believe it? no, she thought it was a joke. we then hung _ believe it? no, she thought it was a joke. we then hung up— believe it? no, she thought it was a joke. we then hung up the - believe it? no, she thought it was a joke. we then hung up the phone, i believe it? no, she thought it was a . joke. we then hung up the phone, you ready— joke. we then hung up the phone, you ready while _ joke. we then hung up the phone, you ready while speaking _ joke. we then hung up the phone, you ready while speaking to _ joke. we then hung up the phone, you ready while speaking to princess - ready while speaking to princess catherine — ready while speaking to princess catherine. ~ . . ready while speaking to princess catherine. . . ., , ., ready while speaking to princess catherine. . ., , ., catherine. what are your plans for the rest of — catherine. what are your plans for the rest of the _ catherine. what are your plans for the rest of the day? _ catherine. what are your plans for the rest of the day? we _ catherine. what are your plans for the rest of the day? we are - catherine. what are your plans for. the rest of the day? we are prepared for rain. the rest of the day? we are prepared for rain- we — the rest of the day? we are prepared for rain. we are _ the rest of the day? we are prepared for rain. we are just _ the rest of the day? we are prepared for rain. we are just going _ the rest of the day? we are prepared for rain. we are just going to - the rest of the day? we are prepared for rain. we are just going to camp i for rain. we are just going to camp out here _ for rain. we are just going to camp out here for— for rain. we are just going to camp out here for tomorrow. _ for rain. we are just going to camp out here for tomorrow. fire - for rain. we are just going to camp out here for tomorrow.— out here for tomorrow. are you lookin: out here for tomorrow. are you looking forward _ out here for tomorrow. are you looking forward to _ out here for tomorrow. are you looking forward to the - out here for tomorrow. are you . looking forward to the festivities of tomorrow?— looking forward to the festivities of tomorrow? ~ , , , ,, of tomorrow? absolutely, so blessed to be here- — of tomorrow? absolutely, so blessed to be here. debbie _ of tomorrow? absolutely, so blessed to be here. debbie and _ of tomorrow? absolutely, so blessed to be here. debbie and your- to be here. debbie and your wonderful— to be here. debbie and your wonderful swan _ to be here. debbie and your wonderful swan hatch, - to be here. debbie and your wonderful swan hatch, we l to be here. debbie and your- wonderful swan hatch, we cannot thank— wonderful swan hatch, we cannot thank you — wonderful swan hatch, we cannot thank you enough for speaking to us. because _ thank you enough for speaking to us. because as _ thank you enough for speaking to us. because as you can see, there is a lot of— because as you can see, there is a lot of excitement here on the mall for anyone — lot of excitement here on the mall for anyone coming past in their cars or even— for anyone coming past in their cars or even stopping to congratulate and thank— or even stopping to congratulate and thank the _ or even stopping to congratulate and thank the people who have been camping — thank the people who have been camping here for days or even up to a whole _ camping here for days or even up to a whole week in the rain, in the sunshine. — a whole week in the rain, in the sunshine. in— a whole week in the rain, in the sunshine, in the various homunculus edges— sunshine, in the various homunculus edges weather. xlat'erglr sunshine, in the various homunculus edges weather-— edges weather. very special for the -eo . le edges weather. very special for the --eole on edges weather. very special for the people on the _ edges weather. very special for the people on the mall— edges weather. very special for the people on the mall this _ edges weather. very special for the people on the mall this afternoon. . people on the mall this afternoon. we were told that if it rains, that

walkabouts might not go ahead so mercifully the sunshine. plenty going on herejust outside victoria's memorial at the moment. the roundabout is sealed off because we are going to see in the next few hours, guests arriving. there are royal families arriving from all over europe. pictures is afternoon of king philippe from belgium coming in on the eurostar. royals around europe don't have a coronation, they got rid of their combinations many years ago. you are down at the abbey because you have just done a documentary on the european wales and they will be here on forces afternoon?— and they will be here on forces afternoon? , ._ ., ., afternoon? they will may not have their own carnations _ afternoon? they will may not have their own carnations that - afternoon? they will may not have their own carnations that they - afternoon? they will may not have their own carnations that they are | their own carnations that they are more _ their own carnations that they are more than — their own carnations that they are more than happy to attend this one. it means— more than happy to attend this one. it means even more to them to be

included _ it means even more to them to be included in — it means even more to them to be included in a royal ceremony. remember, many of them are related. you start— remember, many of them are related. you start wandering into the european royal palaces and you realise — european royal palaces and you realise how many of them come from the same _ realise how many of them come from the same grandparent or great—grandparents. so it's kind of like turning — great—grandparents. so it's kind of like turning up to your cousin's big do. like turning up to your cousin's big do~ very— like turning up to your cousin's big do. very difficult to know what to wear _ do. very difficult to know what to wear today. we should both be wearing — wear today. we should both be wearing swan hats because that nice woman— wearing swan hats because that nice woman from texas told the whole programme, good for her and getting on the _ programme, good for her and getting on the phone with princess catherine! i have a guess here with me. catherine! i have a guess here with me we _ catherine! i have a guess here with me. we don't have much going on at the abbey— me. we don't have much going on at the abbey right now. of course, tomorrow — the abbey right now. of course, tomorrow huge events. this is where the focus _ tomorrow huge events. this is where the focus will switch to and i'm joined — the focus will switch to and i'm joined by— the focus will switch to and i'm joined by an english historian and an influencer. first of all,

therefore changes of clothes. four different _ therefore changes of clothes. four different outfits are looking? no swan hats but crowns. we will see two different — swan hats but crowns. we will see two different crowns _ swan hats but crowns. we will see two different crowns for— swan hats but crowns. we will see two different crowns for the - swan hats but crowns. we will see two different crowns for the cane, | two different crowns for the cane, one for— two different crowns for the cane, one for the — two different crowns for the cane, one for the queen _ two different crowns for the cane, one for the queen that _ two different crowns for the cane, one for the queen that will- two different crowns for the cane, one for the queen that will be - two different crowns for the cane, | one for the queen that will be very exciting _ one for the queen that will be very exciting say— one for the queen that will be very exciting. say edward's _ one for the queen that will be very exciting. say edward's crown - one for the queen that will be very exciting. say edward's crown is - one for the queen that will be very. exciting. say edward's crown is very rarely _ exciting. say edward's crown is very rarely seen — exciting. say edward's crown is very rarely seen other— exciting. say edward's crown is very rarely seen other than _ exciting. say edward's crown is very rarely seen other than as _ exciting. say edward's crown is very rarely seen other than as a - rarely seen other than as a coronation _ rarely seen other than as a coronation. so— rarely seen other than as a coronation. so it _ rarely seen other than as a coronation. so it will- rarely seen other than as a coronation. so it will be i rarely seen other than as a . coronation. so it will be lovely rarely seen other than as a - coronation. so it will be lovely to see that — coronation. so it will be lovely to see that in — coronation. so it will be lovely to see that in use _ coronation. so it will be lovely to see that in use again. _ coronation. so it will be lovely to see that in use again. that- coronation. so it will be lovely to see that in use again.— see that in use again. that is so heavy that _ see that in use again. that is so heavy that he — see that in use again. that is so heavy that he will— see that in use again. that is so heavy that he will only - see that in use again. that is so heavy that he will only wear - see that in use again. that is so heavy that he will only wear it i see that in use again. that is so . heavy that he will only wear it for the actual— heavy that he will only wear it for the actual coronation.— heavy that he will only wear it for the actual coronation. there are so man who the actual coronation. there are so many who have _ the actual coronation. there are so many who have had _ the actual coronation. there are so many who have had to _ the actual coronation. there are so many who have had to pass - the actual coronation. there are so many who have had to pass up - the actual coronation. there are so many who have had to pass up on. the actual coronation. there are so i many who have had to pass up on that crown _ many who have had to pass up on that crown because — many who have had to pass up on that crown because they— many who have had to pass up on that crown because they have _ many who have had to pass up on that crown because they have been - many who have had to pass up on that crown because they have been able i many who have had to pass up on that crown because they have been able to| crown because they have been able to carry it _ crown because they have been able to carry it on _ crown because they have been able to carry it on their— crown because they have been able to carry it on their heads. _ crown because they have been able to carry it on their heads. the _ crown because they have been able to carry it on their heads.— carry it on their heads. the better the ceremony _ carry it on their heads. the better the ceremony that _ carry it on their heads. the better the ceremony that we _ carry it on their heads. the better the ceremony that we are - carry it on their heads. the better the ceremony that we are not - carry it on their heads. the better. the ceremony that we are not going to see _ the ceremony that we are not going to see is _ the ceremony that we are not going to see is the acknowledgement itself whether— to see is the acknowledgement itself whether king describes as it were into a _ whether king describes as it were into a simple... i'm trying to picture— into a simple... i'm trying to picture what it will be like what he has, picture what it will be like what he has. will _ picture what it will be like what he has. will it — picture what it will be like what he has, will it be like a lead an outline _ has, will it be like a lead an outline or— has, will it be like a lead an outline or something? it is has, will it be like a lead an outline or something? it is sort of like a tunic. _ outline or something? it is sort of like a tunic. a _ outline or something? it is sort of like a tunic, a shapeless - outline or something? it is sort of like a tunic, a shapeless white - like a tunic, a shapeless white tunic — like a tunic, a shapeless white tunic there _ like a tunic, a shapeless white tunic. there is— like a tunic, a shapeless white tunic. there is design- like a tunic, a shapeless white tunic. there is design for- like a tunic, a shapeless white tunic. there is design for it. like a tunic, a shapeless white i tunic. there is design for it has hardly— tunic. there is design for it has hardly changed _ tunic. there is design for it has hardly changed at _ tunic. there is design for it has hardly changed at all _ tunic. there is design for it has hardly changed at all since -

tunic. there is design for it has hardly changed at all since it i tunic. there is design for it has i hardly changed at all since it was introduced — hardly changed at all since it was introduced into _ hardly changed at all since it was introduced into the _ hardly changed at all since it was introduced into the coronation i introduced into the coronation ceremony _ introduced into the coronation ceremony it— introduced into the coronation ceremony. it is _ introduced into the coronation ceremony. it is only— introduced into the coronation ceremony. it is only one - introduced into the coronation ceremony. it is only one of. introduced into the coronation| ceremony. it is only one of the introduced into the coronation - ceremony. it is only one of the most authentic— ceremony. it is only one of the most authentic emotional— ceremony. it is only one of the most authentic emotional parts _ ceremony. it is only one of the most authentic emotional parts of - ceremony. it is only one of the most authentic emotional parts of the - authentic emotional parts of the coronation _ authentic emotional parts of the coronation-— authentic emotional parts of the coronation. �* . , ., , coronation. and that is when he has then helped — coronation. and that is when he has then helped back— coronation. and that is when he has then helped back into _ coronation. and that is when he has then helped back into a _ coronation. and that is when he has then helped back into a different - then helped back into a different set of— then helped back into a different set of robes?— then helped back into a different set of robes? . , , set of robes? that is when he gets into the gold _ set of robes? that is when he gets into the gold robes _ set of robes? that is when he gets into the gold robes that _ set of robes? that is when he gets into the gold robes that we - set of robes? that is when he gets into the gold robes that we will. set of robes? that is when he gets| into the gold robes that we will see him crowned — into the gold robes that we will see him crowned wearing. _ into the gold robes that we will see him crowned wearing. that - into the gold robes that we will see him crowned wearing. that will - into the gold robes that we will see him crowned wearing. that will be. him crowned wearing. that will be the moment— him crowned wearing. that will be the moment he _ him crowned wearing. that will be the moment he transforms - him crowned wearing. that will be the moment he transforms into. him crowned wearing. that will be. the moment he transforms into the monarch _ the moment he transforms into the monarch. . .. the moment he transforms into the monarch. . ~ ., ., i. monarch. talk to me about your tiktok account, _ monarch. talk to me about your tiktok account, we _ monarch. talk to me about your tiktok account, we have - monarch. talk to me about your tiktok account, we have all - monarch. talk to me about your| tiktok account, we have all seen monarch. talk to me about your - tiktok account, we have all seen the poll that _ tiktok account, we have all seen the poll that younger britons are less interested in the royal family than the older— interested in the royal family than the older britons. tiktok, the ultimate _ the older britons. tiktok, the ultimate of young britain's britain. it suggests to me that there is interest? _ it suggests to me that there is interest? in it suggests to me that there is interest? , ~ ., ~' it suggests to me that there is interest? , ~ ., ~ ., . . ., interest? in my tiktok account, i talk a lot about _ interest? in my tiktok account, i talk a lot about historical- interest? in my tiktok account, i talk a lot about historical royal l talk a lot about historical royal fashion — talk a lot about historical royal fashion and _ talk a lot about historical royal fashion and i— talk a lot about historical royal fashion and i think— talk a lot about historical royal fashion and i think there - talk a lot about historical royal fashion and i think there is - talk a lot about historical royal. fashion and i think there is huge interest— fashion and i think there is huge interest from _ fashion and i think there is huge interest from young _ fashion and i think there is huge interest from young people - fashion and i think there is huge interest from young people at. fashion and i think there is huge i interest from young people at the history— interest from young people at the history of— interest from young people at the history of the _ interest from young people at the history of the monarchy. - interest from young people at the history of the monarchy. lots - interest from young people at the history of the monarchy. lots of. history of the monarchy. lots of young _ history of the monarchy. lots of young people _ history of the monarchy. lots of young people are _ history of the monarchy. lots of young people are looking - history of the monarchy. lots of young people are looking to - history of the monarchy. lots of- young people are looking to reclaim,

especially— young people are looking to reclaim, especially the — young people are looking to reclaim, especially the women _ young people are looking to reclaim, especially the women from - young people are looking to reclaim, especially the women from royal - especially the women from royal history— especially the women from royal history who _ especially the women from royal history who have _ especially the women from royal history who have perhaps - especially the women from royal history who have perhaps been i history who have perhaps been sidelined — history who have perhaps been sidelined to _ history who have perhaps been sidelined to sort _ history who have perhaps been sidelined to sort of— history who have perhaps been sidelined to sort of bring - history who have perhaps been sidelined to sort of bring out. history who have perhaps been i sidelined to sort of bring out their stories— sidelined to sort of bring out their stories so— sidelined to sort of bring out their stories so there _ sidelined to sort of bring out their stories so there is _ sidelined to sort of bring out their stories so there is a _ sidelined to sort of bring out their stories so there is a lot _ sidelined to sort of bring out their stories so there is a lot of- stories so there is a lot of interest— stories so there is a lot of interest that _ stories so there is a lot of interest that is _ stories so there is a lot of interest that is still - stories so there is a lot of interest that is still therel stories so there is a lot of. interest that is still there for young — interest that is still there for young people _ interest that is still there for young people. one - interest that is still there for young people. one of- interest that is still there for young people. one of the i interest that is still there for- young people. one of the things that pulls young _ young people. one of the things that pulls young people — young people. one of the things that pulls young people in— young people. one of the things that pulls young people in his _ young people. one of the things that pulls young people in his in - young people. one of the things that pulls young people in his in these - pulls young people in his in these surveys _ pulls young people in his in these surveys and — pulls young people in his in these surveys and the _ pulls young people in his in these surveys and the data _ pulls young people in his in these surveys and the data that - pulls young people in his in these surveys and the data that has - pulls young people in his in these i surveys and the data that has come out, surveys and the data that has come out. a _ surveys and the data that has come out. a huge — surveys and the data that has come out. a huge body— surveys and the data that has come out, a huge body of— surveys and the data that has come out, a huge body of young - surveys and the data that has come out, a huge body of young people i out, a huge body of young people said that — out, a huge body of young people said that the _ out, a huge body of young people said that the answer _ out, a huge body of young people said that the answer to _ out, a huge body of young people said that the answer to these - said that the answer to these questions _ said that the answer to these questions that— said that the answer to these questions that they - said that the answer to these questions that they don't - said that the answer to these i questions that they don't know said that the answer to these - questions that they don't know how they feel— questions that they don't know how they feel about— questions that they don't know how they feel about the _ questions that they don't know how they feel about the royal _ questions that they don't know how they feel about the royal family- questions that they don't know howl they feel about the royal family and to me _ they feel about the royal family and to n1athat— they feel about the royal family and to me that says _ they feel about the royal family and to me that says there _ they feel about the royal family and to me that says there is _ they feel about the royal family and to me that says there is a _ they feel about the royal family and to me that says there is a sort - they feel about the royal family and to me that says there is a sort of. to me that says there is a sort of communication— to me that says there is a sort of communication issue _ to me that says there is a sort of communication issue whether. to me that says there is a sort of. communication issue whether young people _ communication issue whether young people not— communication issue whether young people not understanding _ communication issue whether young people not understanding why - communication issue whether young people not understanding why they. people not understanding why they should _ people not understanding why they should care — people not understanding why they should care about _ people not understanding why they should care about the _ people not understanding why they should care about the royal - people not understanding why they should care about the royal family| should care about the royal family and what _ should care about the royal family and what the — should care about the royal family and what the royal— should care about the royal family and what the royal family - should care about the royal family and what the royal family means i should care about the royal family. and what the royal family means to them _ and what the royal family means to them so— and what the royal family means to them so i— and what the royal family means to them. so i think— and what the royal family means to them. so i think young _ and what the royal family means to them. so i think young people - and what the royal family means to them. so i think young people are i them. so i think young people are interested — them. so i think young people are interested in— them. so i think young people are interested in and _ them. so i think young people are interested in and is— them. so i think young people are interested in and is trying - them. so i think young people are interested in and is trying to - interested in and is trying to figure — interested in and is trying to figure out— interested in and is trying to figure out whether- interested in and is trying to figure out whether they- interested in and is trying to figure out whether they are i interested in and is trying to i figure out whether they are for interested in and is trying to - figure out whether they are for the monarchy— figure out whether they are for the monarchy or— figure out whether they are for the monarchy or against— figure out whether they are for the monarchy or against the _ figure out whether they are for the monarchy or against the monarchyj monarchy or against the monarchy through— monarchy or against the monarchy through information _ monarchy or against the monarchy through information and _ monarchy or against the monarchy through information and tiktok i monarchy or against the monarchy through information and tiktok is| monarchy or against the monarchy. through information and tiktok is a really— through information and tiktok is a really good — through information and tiktok is a really good way _ through information and tiktok is a really good way of _ through information and tiktok is a really good way of doing _ through information and tiktok is a really good way of doing that. - through information and tiktok is a really good way of doing that. thafl really good way of doing that. that is so interesting. _ really good way of doing that. is so interesting. everyone sees really good way of doing that.- is so interesting. everyone sees the numbers. _ is so interesting. everyone sees the numbers, that becomes a headline, young _ numbers, that becomes a headline, young britons leaving interest in the monarchy. for what you're saying. — the monarchy. for what you're saying, from what you see on social media _ saying, from what you see on social media and _ saying, from what you see on social media and the interactions you have and the _ media and the interactions you have and the way— media and the interactions you have and the way that they are answering these _ and the way that they are answering these questions, it may not actually

that be _ these questions, it may not actually that be that they want to get rid of the monarchy, if it meant that far. we don't _ the monarchy, if it meant that far. we don't know yet how we feel that we have _ we don't know yet how we feel that we have engagement?— we have engagement? there is still the time for — we have engagement? there is still the time for those, _ we have engagement? there is still the time for those, that _ we have engagement? there is still the time for those, that data - we have engagement? there is still the time for those, that data to - the time for those, that data to swaying — the time for those, that data to swaying nray— the time for those, that data to swaying may be _ the time for those, that data to swaying may be a _ the time for those, that data to swaying may be a little - the time for those, that data to swaying may be a little bit - the time for those, that data to| swaying may be a little bit more the time for those, that data to i swaying may be a little bit more in the royal— swaying may be a little bit more in the royal family's _ swaying may be a little bit more in the royal family's favour - swaying may be a little bit more in the royal family's favour but - swaying may be a little bit more in the royal family's favour but the i the royal family's favour but the only way— the royal family's favour but the only way that _ the royal family's favour but the only way that is _ the royal family's favour but the only way that is going _ the royal family's favour but the only way that is going to - the royal family's favour but the only way that is going to happen| the royal family's favour but the l only way that is going to happen is through— only way that is going to happen is through trying _ only way that is going to happen is through trying to _ only way that is going to happen is through trying to speak— only way that is going to happen is through trying to speak and - through trying to speak and communicate _ through trying to speak and communicate a _ through trying to speak and communicate a little - through trying to speak and communicate a little bit- through trying to speak and . communicate a little bit more through trying to speak and - communicate a little bit more where this younger— communicate a little bit more where this younger generation. _ communicate a little bit more where this younger generation.— this younger generation. there coronation. — this younger generation. there coronation, i'm _ this younger generation. there coronation, i'm thinking - this younger generation. there coronation, i'm thinking from | this younger generation. there i coronation, i'm thinking from the moment— coronation, i'm thinking from the moment the king leaves buckingham palace, _ moment the king leaves buckingham palace, the procession to come here, the ceremony itself that we all see in glorious — the ceremony itself that we all see in glorious technicolor which everybody will be, there will be thousands of camera people because everyone _ thousands of camera people because everyone had their phones and filming — everyone had their phones and filming it~ _ everyone had their phones and filming it. when he leaves, i would have thought it major social media nronrent — have thought it major social media moment. green that it will be interesting to see how the royal family— interesting to see how the royal family on— interesting to see how the royal family on their social media channels— family on their social media channels have approached the coronation because they are taking a

more _ coronation because they are taking a more informative approach, they are making _ more informative approach, they are making sure — more informative approach, they are making sure that everybody understands exactly what galea is going _ understands exactly what galea is going to _ understands exactly what galea is going to be used, what each section of the _ going to be used, what each section of the coronation is meant to represent. so that is a really great step in— represent. so that is a really great step in the — represent. so that is a really great step in the right direction and it is really— step in the right direction and it is really going to help people understand what the ceremony as opposed — understand what the ceremony as opposed to mean and what is disposed to represent for the royal family. in to represent for the royal family. in history. — to represent for the royal family. in history, the coronation has been used _ in history, the coronation has been used as— in history, the coronation has been used as an — in history, the coronation has been used as an opportunity _ in history, the coronation has been used as an opportunity to - in history, the coronation has been used as an opportunity to touch - in history, the coronation has been i used as an opportunity to touch base with the _ used as an opportunity to touch base with the population. _ used as an opportunity to touch base with the population. to _ used as an opportunity to touch base with the population. to say - used as an opportunity to touch base with the population. to say this - used as an opportunity to touch base with the population. to say this is i with the population. to say this is how we _ with the population. to say this is how we want— with the population. to say this is how we want to _ with the population. to say this is how we want to go _ with the population. to say this is how we want to go forward - with the population. to say this is how we want to go forward in - with the population. to say this is how we want to go forward in thisj how we want to go forward in this new phase — how we want to go forward in this new phase so— how we want to go forward in this new phase so it _ how we want to go forward in this new phase so it is _ how we want to go forward in this new phase so it is going - how we want to go forward in this new phase so it is going to - how we want to go forward in this new phase so it is going to be - how we want to go forward in this new phase so it is going to be a l new phase so it is going to be a huge _ new phase so it is going to be a huge moment— new phase so it is going to be a huge moment of— new phase so it is going to be a huge moment of education. - new phase so it is going to be a huge moment of education. we have seen that in — huge moment of education. we have seen that in the _ huge moment of education. we have seen that in the last _ huge moment of education. we have seen that in the last couple - huge moment of education. we have seen that in the last couple of - huge moment of education. we have seen that in the last couple of days l seen that in the last couple of days with so— seen that in the last couple of days with so many outings, kate and william — with so many outings, kate and william today and yesterday, the kin- william today and yesterday, the king and — william today and yesterday, the king and queen camilla consult on the mall— king and queen camilla consult on the mall today. you might say, that is tletter— the mall today. you might say, that is better than obvious stunt, they don't _ is better than obvious stunt, they don't always take the cheap, but

they are — don't always take the cheap, but they are taking the cheap and it seems — they are taking the cheap and it seems like a shift, this is a royal family— seems like a shift, this is a royal family that — seems like a shift, this is a royal family that is going to be more accessible? i family that is going to be more accessible?— family that is going to be more accessible? ~ ., accessible? i think the thing that will make that _ accessible? i think the thing that will make that move _ accessible? i think the thing that will make that move more - accessible? i think the thing that. will make that move more impactful and more _ will make that move more impactful and more successful— will make that move more impactful and more successful is— will make that move more impactful and more successful is if— will make that move more impactful and more successful is if they- and more successful is if they really— and more successful is if they really doubled _ and more successful is if they really doubled down - and more successful is if they really doubled down on - and more successful is if they- really doubled down on communicating particularly _ really doubled down on communicating particularly the — really doubled down on communicating particularly the work _ really doubled down on communicating particularly the work that _ really doubled down on communicating particularly the work that they - really doubled down on communicating particularly the work that they do, - particularly the work that they do, notjust— particularly the work that they do, not just that — particularly the work that they do, notjust that they— particularly the work that they do, not just that they go _ particularly the work that they do, not just that they go out _ particularly the work that they do, not just that they go out and - particularly the work that they do, j not just that they go out and great people _ not just that they go out and great people trut— not just that they go out and great people but why— not just that they go out and great people but why it— not just that they go out and great people but why it is _ not just that they go out and great people but why it is important- not just that they go out and great people but why it is important fori people but why it is important for them _ people but why it is important for them to— people but why it is important for them to garden— people but why it is important for them to garden great— people but why it is important for them to garden great evil. - people but why it is important for them to garden great evil. why . people but why it is important forj them to garden great evil. why is people but why it is important for. them to garden great evil. why is it important _ them to garden great evil. why is it important that _ them to garden great evil. why is it important that they _ them to garden great evil. why is it important that they make _ them to garden great evil. why is it important that they make these - important that they make these charities, — important that they make these charities, what— important that they make these charities, what impact- important that they make these charities, what impact does- important that they make these charities, what impact does it . important that they make these i charities, what impact does it have on young _ charities, what impact does it have on young people? _ charities, what impact does it have on young people? it _ charities, what impact does it have on young people? it is _ charities, what impact does it have on young people? it is a _ charities, what impact does it have on young people? it is a step- charities, what impact does it have on young people? it is a step in. charities, what impact does it have| on young people? it is a step in the i’ili'it on young people? it is a step in the right direction — on young people? it is a step in the right direction but— on young people? it is a step in the right direction but there _ on young people? it is a step in the right direction but there is - on young people? it is a step in the right direction but there is a - on young people? it is a step in the right direction but there is a long i right direction but there is a long way to— right direction but there is a long way to go — right direction but there is a long way to go do _ right direction but there is a long wa to no. ,, right direction but there is a long way to go— right direction but there is a long wa toao. ,, , way to go. do think the young people don't know the _ way to go. do think the young people don't know the work _ way to go. do think the young people don't know the work that _ way to go. do think the young people don't know the work that royals - way to go. do think the young people don't know the work that royals do? | don't know the work that royals do? ithink— don't know the work that royals do? i think one — don't know the work that royals do? i think one of the clearest in the is if you — i think one of the clearest in the is if you look— i think one of the clearest in the is if you look at _ i think one of the clearest in the is if you look at king _ i think one of the clearest in the is if you look at king charles- i think one of the clearest in the| is if you look at king charles and the way— is if you look at king charles and the way he — is if you look at king charles and the way he has _ is if you look at king charles and the way he has dedicated - is if you look at king charles andi the way he has dedicated himself is if you look at king charles and - the way he has dedicated himself to, one of— the way he has dedicated himself to, one of those — the way he has dedicated himself to, one of those trig _ the way he has dedicated himself to, one of those big issues _ the way he has dedicated himself to, one of those big issues and - the way he has dedicated himself to, one of those big issues and the - one of those big issues and the environment _ one of those big issues and the environment and _ one of those big issues and the environment and that - one of those big issues and the environment and that is - one of those big issues and the - environment and that is something that young — environment and that is something that young people _ environment and that is something that young people are _ environment and that is something that young people are so _ environment and that is something i that young people are so passionate about _ that young people are so passionate about and _ that young people are so passionate

about and that — that young people are so passionate about and that should _ that young people are so passionate about and that should be _ that young people are so passionate about and that should be a - that young people are so passionate about and that should be a moment| about and that should be a moment for a connection— about and that should be a moment for a connection now— about and that should be a moment for a connection now but _ about and that should be a moment for a connection now but i _ about and that should be a moment for a connection now but i think- for a connection now but i think there _ for a connection now but i think there are — for a connection now but i think there are so _ for a connection now but i think there are so many— for a connection now but i think there are so many young - for a connection now but i think| there are so many young people for a connection now but i think- there are so many young people who don't _ there are so many young people who don't understand _ there are so many young people who don't understand what _ there are so many young people who don't understand what trailblazer - there are so many young people who don't understand what trailblazer he | don't understand what trailblazer he was and _ don't understand what trailblazer he was and the — don't understand what trailblazer he was and the work _ don't understand what trailblazer he was and the work that _ don't understand what trailblazer he was and the work that the _ don't understand what trailblazer he was and the work that the royal - was and the work that the royal family— was and the work that the royal family have _ was and the work that the royal family have actually _ was and the work that the royal family have actually gone - was and the work that the royal family have actually gone and l was and the work that the royal. family have actually gone and done to help _ family have actually gone and done to help those — family have actually gone and done to help those issues _ family have actually gone and done to help those issues and _ family have actually gone and done to help those issues and i- family have actually gone and done to help those issues and i think- family have actually gone and done to help those issues and i think if. to help those issues and i think if that was— to help those issues and i think if that was more _ to help those issues and i think if that was more clearly— to help those issues and i think if- that was more clearly communicated, the real— that was more clearly communicated, the real impact— that was more clearly communicated, the real impact of— that was more clearly communicated, the real impact of the _ that was more clearly communicated, the real impact of the royal- that was more clearly communicated, the real impact of the royal family, . the real impact of the royal family, those _ the real impact of the royal family, those people — the real impact of the royal family, those people who _ the real impact of the royal family, those people who are _ the real impact of the royal family, those people who are on _ the real impact of the royal family, those people who are on the - the real impact of the royal family, those people who are on the fencei those people who are on the fence might— those people who are on the fence might be _ those people who are on the fence might be more _ those people who are on the fence might be more inclined _ those people who are on the fence might be more inclined to - those people who are on the fence might be more inclined to say- those people who are on the fence. might be more inclined to say yeah, i might be more inclined to say yeah, i see _ might be more inclined to say yeah, i see the _ might be more inclined to say yeah, i see the value _ might be more inclined to say yeah, i see the value of— might be more inclined to say yeah, i see the value of the _ might be more inclined to say yeah, i see the value of the royal- might be more inclined to say yeah, i see the value of the royal family. i see the value of the royal family and i_ i see the value of the royal family and i am _ i see the value of the royal family and i am happy— i see the value of the royal family and i am happy to— i see the value of the royal family and i am happy to get— i see the value of the royal family and i am happy to get behind - i see the value of the royal family. and i am happy to get behind them. i see the value of the royal family- and i am happy to get behind them. a si-n and i am happy to get behind them. a signthat— and i am happy to get behind them. a signthat i_ and i am happy to get behind them. a sign that i am — and i am happy to get behind them. a sign that i am presuming _ and i am happy to get behind them. a sign that i am presuming that- and i am happy to get behind them. a sign that i am presuming that the - sign that i am presuming that the work— sign that i am presuming that the work that— sign that i am presuming that the work that kate _ sign that i am presuming that the work that kate and _ sign that i am presuming that the work that kate and william - sign that i am presuming that the work that kate and william have i sign that i am presuming that the - work that kate and william have done on mental— work that kate and william have done on mental health _ work that kate and william have done on mental health issues— work that kate and william have done on mental health issues is— work that kate and william have done on mental health issues is also- work that kate and william have done on mental health issues is also an - on mental health issues is also an issue _ on mental health issues is also an issue that — on mental health issues is also an issue that resonates _ on mental health issues is also an issue that resonates of _ on mental health issues is also an issue that resonates of people - on mental health issues is also anl issue that resonates of people quiz on mental health issues is also an . issue that resonates of people quiz? you can— issue that resonates of people quiz? you can see — issue that resonates of people quiz? you can see that _ issue that resonates of people quiz? you can see that william _ issue that resonates of people quiz? you can see that william and - issue that resonates of people quiz? you can see that william and kate . you can see that william and kate are so _ you can see that william and kate are so much— you can see that william and kate are so much more _ you can see that william and kate are so much more popular- you can see that william and kate are so much more popular and - are so much more popular and especially— are so much more popular and especially with— are so much more popular and especially with shows - are so much more popular and especially with shows like - are so much more popular and especially with shows like the i especially with shows like the crown. — especially with shows like the crown, there _ especially with shows like the crown, there is _ especially with shows like the crown, there is a _ especially with shows like the crown, there is a bit - especially with shows like the crown, there is a bit more - crown, there is a bit more hesitation— crown, there is a bit more hesitation to _ crown, there is a bit more hesitation to side - crown, there is a bit more hesitation to side with - crown, there is a bit more - hesitation to side with charles and camilla _ hesitation to side with charles and camilla said — hesitation to side with charles and camilla said the _ hesitation to side with charles and camilla said the young _ hesitation to side with charles and camilla said the young people - hesitation to side with charles and camilla said the young people are| camilla said the young people are

the ones — camilla said the young people are the ones we — camilla said the young people are the ones we need _ camilla said the young people are the ones we need to— camilla said the young people are the ones we need to tune - camilla said the young people are the ones we need to tune into. i camilla said the young people are l the ones we need to tune into. back to ou, the ones we need to tune into. back to you. you — the ones we need to tune into. back to you. you have — the ones we need to tune into. back to you, you have got _ the ones we need to tune into. back to you, you have got to _ the ones we need to tune into. to you, you have got to breaking news _ to you, you have got to breaking news. ~ ., to you, you have got to breaking news. . . ., ., , . ., news. we are going to peel away from these from the — news. we are going to peel away from these from the coronation _ news. we are going to peel away from these from the coronation because - news. we are going to peel away from these from the coronation because we have got a projected national vote from the local elections. results coming in all the time. let's speak to rob watson. what do you see? let me come straight to them. i will read _ me come straight to them. i will read them — me come straight to them. i will read them out and people will forgive — read them out and people will forgive me for looking down at my phone _ forgive me for looking down at my phone to — forgive me for looking down at my phone to get it right. the projected shares _ phone to get it right. the projected shares is _ phone to get it right. the projected shares is that if it had been a nationwide vote, the conservatives would _ nationwide vote, the conservatives would have — nationwide vote, the conservatives would have got 26%, the main opposition labour party 35%, lib dems— opposition labour party 35%, lib dems 25%— opposition labour party 35%, lib dems 25% and others 19%. compare it to what— dems 25% and others 19%. compare it to what actually happened at the 2019 general election by the conservatives obviously won it with a large _ conservatives obviously won it with a large majority, they got 43.6% of

the vote, _ a large majority, they got 43.6% of the vote, labour on 32.1% and the lib dems — the vote, labour on 32.1% and the lib dems on — the vote, labour on 32.1% and the lib dems on 11.5%. what you pick out from this— lib dems on 11.5%. what you pick out from this is— lib dems on 11.5%. what you pick out from this is two things. the conservatives are in a whole heap of trouble _ conservatives are in a whole heap of trouble and — conservatives are in a whole heap of trouble and that vote share has made a climb _ trouble and that vote share has made a climb very— trouble and that vote share has made a climb very sharply from when they won that _ a climb very sharply from when they won that massive majority —— declined _ won that massive majority —— declined. as you can see from that 35% from — declined. as you can see from that 35% from labour, the idea that they will win— 35% from labour, the idea that they will win from a landslide as tony blair— will win from a landslide as tony blair did — will win from a landslide as tony blair did in— will win from a landslide as tony blair did in 1997, they don't seem to be _ blair did in 1997, they don't seem to be at— blair did in 1997, they don't seem to be at that point yet. they had made _ to be at that point yet. they had made process counts progress but how they sort _ made process counts progress but how they sort of— made process counts progress but how they sort of sell the deal yet? these — they sort of sell the deal yet? these figures suggest they have work to do but— these figures suggest they have work to do but it _ these figures suggest they have work to do but it is a pretty healthy lead. — to do but it is a pretty healthy lead. a — to do but it is a pretty healthy lead, a 9% lead that the labour party— lead, a 9% lead that the labour party have. it lead, a 9% lead that the labour party have-—

lead, a 996 lead that the labour pa have. , . party have. it is important point, labour suffered _ party have. it is important point, labour suffered their _ party have. it is important point, labour suffered their worst - party have. it is important point, | labour suffered their worst result in 2019 and a swing about the other way, they would need something of a result like 1935, 1945 or 1997 like tony blair. do you see that in the figures that you are looking at there, a swing of that kind or is thatjust there, a swing of that kind or is that just as there, a swing of that kind or is thatjust as the leader of there, a swing of that kind or is that just as the leader of the opposition said a few hours ago, it isjust a foundation opposition said a few hours ago, it is just a foundation on which to build? it isjust a foundation on which to build? . . , , . isjust a foundation on which to build? . . , ., . ., build? it certainly is a foundation and whether— build? it certainly is a foundation and whether it _ build? it certainly is a foundation and whether it leads _ build? it certainly is a foundation and whether it leads to _ build? it certainly is a foundation and whether it leads to more - build? it certainly is a foundation | and whether it leads to more than that i_ and whether it leads to more than that i think— and whether it leads to more than that i think we'll have to find out over— that i think we'll have to find out over the — that i think we'll have to find out over the next few months. nobody could _ over the next few months. nobody could say— over the next few months. nobody could say for sure but i think it is interesting — could say for sure but i think it is interesting that they do have this lead _ interesting that they do have this lead it— interesting that they do have this lead it is— interesting that they do have this lead. it is nearly double figures but i _ lead. it is nearly double figures but i would just on this point, yes labour— but i would just on this point, yes labour have — but i would just on this point, yes labour have this lead and yes they have work— labour have this lead and yes they have work to do but in an interesting way and that is a point that has— interesting way and that is a point that has been raised by our great guru _ that has been raised by our great guru that — that has been raised by our great guru that he always used on the bbc,

professor— guru that he always used on the bbc, professorjohn curtis. that is that even _ professorjohn curtis. that is that even if— professorjohn curtis. that is that even if it— professorjohn curtis. that is that even if it is— professorjohn curtis. that is that even if it is not the case that the british— even if it is not the case that the british people have somehow solved on labour. _ british people have somehow solved on labour, they like the look of keir— on labour, they like the look of keir starmer. the conservatives are so unpopular that they lose anyway, that is— so unpopular that they lose anyway, that is a _ so unpopular that they lose anyway, that is a slight different tangent from _ that is a slight different tangent from what you're asking. in other words. _ from what you're asking. in other words. you — from what you're asking. in other words, you could win an election not necessarily— words, you could win an election not necessarily because the most fantastic— necessarily because the most fantastic swing towards your party or perhaps just fantastic swing towards your party or perhapsjust because the others were doing so badly. yes, or perhapsjust because the others were doing so badly.— were doing so badly. yes, you can win but how _ were doing so badly. yes, you can win but how well _ were doing so badly. yes, you can win but how well are _ were doing so badly. yes, you can win but how well are you - were doing so badly. yes, you can win but how well are you going - were doing so badly. yes, you can win but how well are you going to | win but how well are you going to end that is the main question at the moment? of course, the uk viewers will come back to that shortly and if you want to see more these results you can find it on the bbc website and app. i was listening to you talking about coronation dress

and i was reading some interesting comments. not that king charles we were the spurs tomorrow but they will be told later in the week that they could wear their coronation robes which have been in the cupboard for quite some time, some of them are a bit threadbare. some of them are a bit threadbare. some of them are a bit mothy like some of my suit. as i was reading this and it's the detail behind it which i really like is that lord great chamberlain counts chamberlain and he also has a right to severed water and after the coronation is located as has been a ceremonial role throughout the ages. the lord day great chamberlain. i'm sure that is

one thing that is maybe being faded out. let's talk about the lunch then that has been at the palace today because the royals have been entertaining leaders, governors generalfrom the entertaining leaders, governors general from the commonwealth realm and i when we talk about the commonwealth realm, we talk about the 14 countries that have king charles as head of state. ahead of this meeting, there was news from jamaica but they want to fast forward to a referendum and remove the royal family as forward to a referendum and remove the royalfamily as head of forward to a referendum and remove the royal family as head of state forward to a referendum and remove the royalfamily as head of state in jamaica. clearly we don't know the result of that but clearly these meeting have a bearing and they are important occasions for the royal family because they don't happen that often? the family because they don't happen that often? , ., , . that often? the people have described — that often? the people have described king _ that often? the people have described king charles - that often? the people have described king charles as i that often? the people have described king charles as a l described king charles as a convenor, whether it is on the issue of climate _ convenor, whether it is on the issue of climate or— convenor, whether it is on the issue of climate or whatever issue it is that is _ of climate or whatever issue it is that is interested in. all the ship

of the _ that is interested in. all the ship of the countries of which is to monarch _ of the countries of which is to monarch. in summary that is good at bringing _ monarch. in summary that is good at bringing people together to have conversations. the very fact that the moment the coronation, there is basically— the moment the coronation, there is basically a _ the moment the coronation, there is basically a working lunch going on that is— basically a working lunch going on that is deciding how these countries are going _ that is deciding how these countries are going to deal with their future on important issues like whether kin- on important issues like whether king charles is going to stay ahead of their— king charles is going to stay ahead of their realm but he has brought them _ of their realm but he has brought them together for what is quite a, imagine _ them together for what is quite a, imagine if— them together for what is quite a, imagine if this was the g 14 of the old british— imagine if this was the g 14 of the old british empire effectively. these — old british empire effectively. these countries are coming together to have _ these countries are coming together to have these conversations. it feels _ to have these conversations. it feels like — to have these conversations. it feels like it's more thanjust a ceremonial lunch, it feels like it's a welcome — ceremonial lunch, it feels like it's a welcome lunch and with jamaica jamaica — a welcome lunch and with jamaica jamaica it — a welcome lunch and with jamaica jamaica. it is not the thing that is unexpected, this had been anticipated and i was reading tina brown _ anticipated and i was reading tina brown at — anticipated and i was reading tina brown at the palace papers who has pretty— brown at the palace papers who has pretty good sources in buckingham

palace _ pretty good sources in buckingham palace is— pretty good sources in buckingham palace is as charles himself is quite — palace is as charles himself is quite relaxed himself about this, he realises— quite relaxed himself about this, he realises it _ quite relaxed himself about this, he realises it is likely to happen and could _ realises it is likely to happen and could well— realises it is likely to happen and could well happen during the course of his— could well happen during the course of his realm. he is not taking this as a personal stamp. i5 of his realm. he is not taking this as a personal stamp. is interesting is watching — as a personal stamp. is interesting is watching pictures, _ as a personal stamp. is interesting is watching pictures, it _ as a personal stamp. is interesting is watching pictures, it is _ as a personal stamp. is interesting is watching pictures, it is a - is watching pictures, it is a slimmed down royalfamily. that is a linking has brought about. of course we see the new duke and duchess of edinburgh, prince and princess of wales, the princess royal who many people take to their hearts again since the late queen's funeral. this is the call, the heart of the royal family that will take up the royal duties, you don't see prince andrew or the lesser royals taking part in these kinds of events?— or the lesser royals taking part in these kinds of events? now, those wacky wheels _ these kinds of events? now, those wacky wheels are _ these kinds of events? now, those wacky wheels are the _ these kinds of events? now, those wacky wheels are the ones - these kinds of events? now, those wacky wheels are the ones who - these kinds of events? now, those j wacky wheels are the ones who are going _ wacky wheels are the ones who are going to _ wacky wheels are the ones who are going to be — wacky wheels are the ones who are going to be on the balcony tomorrow at buckingham palace. —— working royals _ at buckingham palace. —— working royals. there was question whether there _ royals. there was question whether there will— royals. there was question whether there will be some second balcony

appearance were somewhat extended family. _ appearance were somewhat extended family, just having that one appearance with the working royals is very— appearance with the working royals is very much a message to the country— is very much a message to the country that the monarchy is very different. — country that the monarchy is very different, it is slimmed down monarchy. the travels i've done around — monarchy. the travels i've done around europe and one of the reasons the norwegian monarchy has 18% the norwegian monarchy has18% approval— the norwegian monarchy has 18% approval ratings, the danish monarchy has approval ratings in the 70s is _ monarchy has approval ratings in the 70s is because they have slimmed dow“, _ 70s is because they have slimmed down, they— 70s is because they have slimmed down, they have managed to do things that make _ down, they have managed to do things that make them stay relevant by people _ that make them stay relevant by people have economical problems and that means _ people have economical problems and that means making decisions. this is a bit of the walkabout _ that means making decisions. this is a bit of the walkabout that _ that means making decisions. this is a bit of the walkabout that we - that means making decisions. this is a bit of the walkabout that we saw . a bit of the walkabout that we saw earlier. the rain is starting to reappear. the met office says it's getting cloudy and rainy and of course that has implications for the flyby that is expected around 215 tomorrow afternoon but they will be

in the massed ranks for the coronation. thousands of people expected to turn up up and we will get under way here in the palace. you. these picture, these are greens celebrating in mid suffolk, you may remember— celebrating in mid suffolk, you may remember many hours ago when the programme — remember many hours ago when the programme began, that the greens were predicting this could be the council— were predicting this could be the council that they actually win, and become _ council that they actually win, and become a — council that they actually win, and become a majority party, on and it looks— become a majority party, on and it looks as _ become a majority party, on and it looks as if— become a majority party, on and it looks as if that has happened, hence those _ looks as if that has happened, hence those celebrations, so, this could be the _ those celebrations, so, this could be the first— those celebrations, so, this could be the first time that the greens have _ be the first time that the greens have got— be the first time that the greens have got a — be the first time that the greens have got a majority council, because in brighton _ have got a majority council, because in brighton and hove where they have been running a minority administration, they still have never— administration, they still have never been a majority council, so 'ust never been a majority council, so just to _ never been a majority council, so just to give — never been a majority council, so just to give you a bit of a sense of what _ just to give you a bit of a sense of what is _ just to give you a bit of a sense of what is going on, other parts of the country— what is going on, other parts of the country and — what is going on, other parts of the country and with other party, let

me, _ country and with other party, let me. let — country and with other party, let me. let me _ country and with other party, let me, let me turn to... it will be interesting to see what happens in brighton, — interesting to see what happens in brighton, i— interesting to see what happens in brighton, i suspect they are not going _ brighton, i suspect they are not going to — brighton, i suspect they are not going to keep brighton because they record _ going to keep brighton because they record is— going to keep brighton because they record is not very good. i going to keep brighton because they record is not very good.— record is not very good. i degree with emily- _ record is not very good. i degree with emily. on _ record is not very good. i degree with emily. on that _ record is not very good. i degree with emily. on that rare - record is not very good. i degree | with emily. on that rare moment record is not very good. i degree i with emily. on that rare moment of agreement--- _ with emily. on that rare moment of agreement... we _ with emily. on that rare moment of agreement... we will _ with emily. on that rare moment of agreement... we will speak - with emily. on that rare moment of agreement... we will speak to - with emily. on that rare moment of| agreement... we will speak to them later on. tewkesbury, conservatives have lost tewkesbury, another council that has gone. looks to, no overall control. liberal democrats had the largest party with 16 seat, conservatives on nine and independents on nine, the greens on four. you can see there, the seat change, again, big drop for the conservatives, just before i come to you susie and natasha, i want to ask you susie and natasha, i want to ask you emily on that bracknell forest result, that was some result, was there evidence of a progressive alliance there? that is what had been talked about, that labour, the greens and the liberal democrats all came together, there, and it worked if that was the care, you know, it was a pet the —— pretty dramatic

result, are you going to do that as a general election? trio. result, are you going to do that as a general election?— result, are you going to do that as a general election? no, we are not doinu a general election? no, we are not doing that. — a general election? no, we are not doing that, what _ a general election? no, we are not doing that, what we _ a general election? no, we are not doing that, what we will _ a general election? no, we are not doing that, what we will do - a general election? no, we are not doing that, what we will do is - a general election? no, we are not doing that, what we will do is we i doing that, what we will do is we will stand candidates up and down the country, there will be no deal, i mean, essentially people will need to vote, if they, the way they want to, and if they want to have an alternative to the conservatives, they should vote labour. and, you know, if we end up with and certainly we hope we will get a majority government, and if, as we have said, if we were to be a minority government we will put forward a queen's speech and budget, it will up to the minority parties to vote for it, if they are representing their constituents properly they would vote for it, if they didn't they would have to face their electorate.— their electorate. susie, your thoughts? — their electorate. susie, your thoughts? as _ their electorate. susie, your thoughts? as far _ their electorate. susie, your thoughts? as far as - their electorate. susie, your thoughts? as far as the - their electorate. susie, your| thoughts? as far as the issue their electorate. susie, your - thoughts? as far as the issue of complacency — thoughts? as far as the issue of complacency would _ thoughts? as far as the issue of complacency would go, - thoughts? as far as the issue of complacency would go, i - thoughts? as far as the issue of complacency would go, i would | thoughts? as far as the issue of i complacency would go, i would say as a general example, my ward, which is up a general example, my ward, which is up for local election, i got two

posters through the door, it's a true blue area in maidstone in kent, you would think that labour and the tories would be in contention or the liberal democrats would think it is part of the blue wall, i got no leaflets or attention from labour or the liberal democrat, nor did we at the liberal democrat, nor did we at the last general election, the conservative candidate who put a letter through, conservative candidate who put a letterthrough, her conservative candidate who put a letter through, her entire list of plans, things she would do in a five year term consisted is of more litter binser that was it the green candidate who came second last time and was in the best chance of beating the tories had a list of stuff like this to do and sol beating the tories had a list of stuff like this to do and so i voted for that guy, and you know, as in mid suffolk it is mushroom tea all round, everyone is happy, the issue is the complacency of well, labour and the tories in that particular tiny district of thinking they, the tories had no ambition of how we can convince people to vote for us. at the local tory councillor, who will by am sure a party activist, one of

the people who is out on the doorsteps bringing people in on the general election, you have lost her herjob because of your complacency. and that happens at local election across the board and there are local issues and national issues that come to the fore, most of the people we have spoken to today, so obviously not that representative, have said it was national issue, it is the national picture that meant as conservatives we lost that council, whether it was as i say swindon or plymouth, or east staffordshire, how difficult is this for rishi sunak? i difficult is this for rishi sunak? i think it is still all to play for, i know it has been more difficult a night for the conservatives than most people would say and i think 24—hours ago, i am not a betting person at all, would have said things would probably go better for the conservative party, i think expectations have been very much managed, that thousand, was it the thousand seat projection, now creeping up towards it, it has been for a while. ihla creeping up towards it, it has been for a while-— creeping up towards it, it has been

for a while. no longer a worse case scenario, definitely _ for a while. no longer a worse case scenario, definitely worse - for a while. no longer a worse case scenario, definitely worse than i scenario, definitely worse than an bod scenario, definitely worse than anybody expected. _ scenario, definitely worse than anybody expected. the - scenario, definitely worse than i anybody expected. the conservative press whatsapp group has been quieter than the labour one this morning but i think it is all to play for and it is very much, it is now labour, labour's sort of, you know, chance now, you have the next year, it's, you are on the right path, right, the conservative party have shown that there is still something to play for for them but labour have shown they can nearly get there and that is why i think it is still all open, rishi sunak has only been in powerfor six month, he hasn't that that much time to show what the policies he has got. he has had a good six months but it will take another year to show they can be delivered. cani can ijust can i just answer your can ijust answer your point about kent? _ can ijust answer your point about kent? i_ can ijust answer your point about kent? i hear what you're saying about— kent? i hear what you're saying about maidstone. in kent we have only had _ about maidstone. in kent we have only had one labour mp, quite recently. — only had one labour mp, quite recently, and there are areas we are now in— recently, and there are areas we are now in contention and we are now

fighting _ now in contention and we are now fighting back. ithink now in contention and we are now fighting back. i think we will see some _ fighting back. i think we will see some quite interesting results and over and _ some quite interesting results and over and deal, quite hopeful about that, _ over and deal, quite hopeful about that, medway, we won seats in central— that, medway, we won seats in central folkestone, three of my friends — central folkestone, three of my friends got elected this morning. thanet, — friends got elected this morning. thanet, canterbury, we have just beaten _ thanet, canterbury, we have just beaten the — thanet, canterbury, we have just beaten the tory leader of the council— beaten the tory leader of the council and canterbury. with the boundary changes _ council and canterbury. with the boundary changes helen - council and canterbury. with the boundary changes helen grant i council and canterbury. with the i boundary changes helen grant the tory is about 400 votes ahead of the labour bout in that area. there is no labour candidate yet. you have the general election in 18 months. chris philp thinks they are going to fix the vote problem... i chris philp thinks they are going to fix the vote problem. . ._ chris philp thinks they are going to fix the vote problem... i think kent is uuite a fix the vote problem... i think kent is quite a good _ fix the vote problem... i think kent is quite a good example _ fix the vote problem. .. i think kent is quite a good example of- fix the vote problem... i think kent is quite a good example of where l fix the vote problem... i think kentl is quite a good example of where we do need _ is quite a good example of where we do need to— is quite a good example of where we do need to come back from a long way and we're _ do need to come back from a long way and we're getting there but i hear what _ and we're getting there but i hear what you're saying and it is important point because we mustn't be complacent. whilst we should rejoice _ be complacent. whilst we should rejoice and how well we have done, we still— rejoice and how well we have done, we still have a long way to to go. in we still have a long way to to go. in terms— we still have a long way to to go. in terms of— we still have a long way to to go. in terms of what you are saying as well, you think there is still time for rishi sunak. our political editor, the bbc political editor, has spoken to a borisjohnson

supporter, saying that he has to own these results. it's about the economy, stupid, and he was the chancellor under borisjohnson, and obviously we heard from this —— they are this person came from politically, ousted liz truss to become prime minister, and these results are worth than we expected. they are, and he does have to own that _ they are, and he does have to own that we _ they are, and he does have to own that we saw — they are, and he does have to own that. we saw him _ they are, and he does have to own that. we saw him earlier— they are, and he does have to own that. we saw him earlier today. i. that. we saw him earlier today. i don't _ that. we saw him earlier today. i don't think— that. we saw him earlier today. i don't think there _ that. we saw him earlier today. i don't think there were _ that. we saw him earlier today. i don't think there were any- that. we saw him earlier today. i. don't think there were any illusions of trying _ don't think there were any illusions of trying to— don't think there were any illusions of trying to mask— don't think there were any illusions of trying to mask exactly _ don't think there were any illusions of trying to mask exactly how- of trying to mask exactly how difficult — of trying to mask exactly how difficult these _ of trying to mask exactly how difficult these have _ of trying to mask exactly how difficult these have been i of trying to mask exactly how difficult these have been for. of trying to mask exactly how. difficult these have been for the conservative _ difficult these have been for the conservative party. _ difficult these have been for the conservative party. you - difficult these have been for the conservative party. you know, i difficult these have been for thel conservative party. you know, in difficult these have been for the i conservative party. you know, in the past few— conservative party. you know, in the past few hours _ conservative party. you know, in the past few hours. we _ conservative party. you know, in the past few hours. we are _ conservative party. you know, in the past few hours. we are obviously- past few hours. we are obviously seeing _ past few hours. we are obviously seeing that— past few hours. we are obviously seeing that as _ past few hours. we are obviously seeing that as these _ past few hours. we are obviously seeing that as these results i past few hours. we are obviouslyi seeing that as these results come in, seeing that as these results come in. but _ seeing that as these results come in. but i _ seeing that as these results come in. but i do — seeing that as these results come in, but i do think— seeing that as these results come in, but i do think a _ seeing that as these results come in, but i do think a year— seeing that as these results come in, but i do think a year out- seeing that as these results come in, but i do think a year out fromi seeing that as these results come | in, but i do think a year out from a general— in, but i do think a year out from a general election, _ in, but i do think a year out from a general election, i— in, but i do think a year out from a general election, ijust _ in, but i do think a year out from a general election, ijust think- in, but i do think a year out from a general election, ijust think it i in, but i do think a year out from a general election, ijust think it is i general election, ijust think it is too early— general election, ijust think it is too early to— general election, ijust think it is too early to predict _ general election, ijust think it is too early to predict exactly- general election, ijust think it is too early to predict exactly what| too early to predict exactly what will happen _ too early to predict exactly what will happen-— too early to predict exactly what will happen. let's get a different voice and speak— will happen. let's get a different voice and speak to _ will happen. let's get a different voice and speak to marianne i will happen. let's get a different i voice and speak to marianne overton, who is in lincolnshire and represents the independent group on the local government association. hello, and thank you very much for waiting patiently. i know it is difficult on these very long days in

local elections. the independents broadly have done about as well as i think they did in 2019, and they did well then, good yearfor think they did in 2019, and they did well then, good year for them. think they did in 2019, and they did well then, good yearfor them. why do you think that is? well then, good year for them. why do you think that is?— do you think that is? independents are local champions. _ do you think that is? independents are local champions. they - do you think that is? independents are local champions. they are i do you think that is? independents i are local champions. they are people in the _ are local champions. they are people in the community— are local champions. they are people in the community who _ are local champions. they are people in the community who have _ are local champions. they are people in the community who have already l in the community who have already done _ in the community who have already done great — in the community who have already done great things _ in the community who have already done great things locally, - in the community who have already done great things locally, so - in the community who have already done great things locally, so it - done great things locally, so it might— done great things locally, so it might be — done great things locally, so it might be running _ done great things locally, so it might be running businesses. done great things locally, so iti might be running businesses or charities— might be running businesses or charities or _ might be running businesses or charities or voluntary— charities or voluntary organisations, - charities or voluntary organisations, and l charities or voluntary organisations, and ii charities or voluntary- organisations, and i think that charities or voluntary— organisations, and i think that is why our— organisations, and i think that is why our members _ organisations, and i think that is why our members get— organisations, and i think that is why our members get elected. i organisations, and i think that is- why our members get elected. they 'ust why our members get elected. they just want— why our members get elected. they just want to — why our members get elected. they just want to do _ why our members get elected. they just want to do more _ why our members get elected. they just want to do more by _ why our members get elected. they just want to do more by working - just want to do more by working through— just want to do more by working through the _ just want to do more by working through the councils, _ just want to do more by working through the councils, and - just want to do more by working through the councils, and of- just want to do more by working. through the councils, and of course with local— through the councils, and of course with local government— through the councils, and of course with local government being - through the councils, and of course with local government being so - with local government being so important. _ with local government being so important. and _ with local government being so important, and i— with local government being so important, and i know- with local government being so important, and i know you - with local government being so| important, and i know you have spoken— important, and i know you have spoken a — important, and i know you have spoken a lot _ important, and i know you have spoken a lot about _ important, and i know you have spoken a lot about the - important, and i know you have spoken a lot about the impact l important, and i know you have. spoken a lot about the impact on hatiohat— spoken a lot about the impact on national government, _ spoken a lot about the impact on national government, but- spoken a lot about the impact onl national government, but actually local government _ national government, but actually local government is _ national government, but actually local government is vital. - national government, but actually local government is vital. if - national government, but actually local government is vital. if you . local government is vital. if you took _ local government is vital. if you took at — local government is vital. if you look at everything, _ local government is vital. if you look at everything, almost - look at everything, almost everything _ look at everything, almost everything outside - look at everything, almost everything outside our- look at everything, almost i everything outside our front look at everything, almost - everything outside our front door or inside _ everything outside our front door or inside is _ everything outside our front door or inside is either— everything outside our front door or inside is either under— everything outside our front door or inside is either under the _ everything outside our front door or inside is either under the control. inside is either under the control or influence _ inside is either under the control or influence of _ inside is either under the control or influence of our— inside is either under the control or influence of our local- inside is either under the control| or influence of our local councils. and people — or influence of our local councils. and people need _ or influence of our local councils. and people need to— or influence of our local councils. and people need to remember. or influence of our local councils. . and people need to remember that when _ and people need to remember that when they— and people need to remember that when they come _ and people need to remember that when they come to _ and people need to remember that when they come to vote. _ and people need to remember that when they come to vote. this - and people need to remember that when they come to vote. this is - when they come to vote. this is about— when they come to vote. this is about who's _ when they come to vote. this is about who's going _ when they come to vote. this is about who's going to _ when they come to vote. this is about who's going to make - when they come to vote. this isj about who's going to make sure when they come to vote. this is - about who's going to make sure you -et about who's going to make sure you get the _ about who's going to make sure you get the irest— about who's going to make sure you get the best possible _ about who's going to make sure you get the best possible services - about who's going to make sure you get the best possible services from i get the best possible services from your counsel — get the best possible services from your counsel locally _ get the best possible services from your counsel locally and _ get the best possible services from your counsel locally and the - your counsel locally and the possible _ your counsel locally and the possible champions. - your counsel locally and the possible champions. voting| possible champions. voting independent, _ possible champions. voting independent, that's-

possible champions. voting independent, that's why . possible champions. voting - independent, that's why people do that. independent, that's why people do that do _ independent, that's why people do that. , ., ~' independent, that's why people do that. , ., ,, , , independent, that's why people do that. i. ,, , , ., that. do you think independents do well in the way _ that. do you think independents do well in the way you _ that. do you think independents do well in the way you have _ that. do you think independents do well in the way you have outlined l well in the way you have outlined because of disillusionment with some of the big parties and perhaps a failure to deal with local services properly? failure to deal with local services --roerl ? ., failure to deal with local services --roerl ? . . , , properly? there are absolutely elements of— properly? there are absolutely elements of that _ properly? there are absolutely elements of that because - properly? there are absolutely elements of that because that | properly? there are absolutely i elements of that because that is what _ elements of that because that is what makes _ elements of that because that is what makes people _ elements of that because that is what makes people look- elements of that because that is what makes people look to - elements of that because that is what makes people look to an i what makes people look to an alternative. _ what makes people look to an alternative, to _ what makes people look to an alternative, to something - what makes people look to an| alternative, to something they what makes people look to an - alternative, to something they may have doubted — alternative, to something they may have doubted before, _ alternative, to something they may have doubted before, so _ alternative, to something they may have doubted before, so they- alternative, to something they may have doubted before, so they are l have doubted before, so they are looking _ have doubted before, so they are looking for— have doubted before, so they are looking for something _ have doubted before, so they are looking for something a - have doubted before, so they are looking for something a bit - looking for something a bit different. _ looking for something a bit different, —— _ looking for something a bit different, —— may- looking for something a bit different, —— may not - looking for something a bit different, —— may not have| looking for something a bit - different, —— may not have voted for before _ different, —— may not have voted for before. independents _ different, —— may not have voted for before. independents do _ different, —— may not have voted for before. independents do tend - different, —— may not have voted for before. independents do tend to - before. independents do tend to provide — before. independents do tend to provide a — before. independents do tend to provide a strong _ before. independents do tend to provide a strong and _ before. independents do tend to provide a strong and fresh - before. independents do tend to i provide a strong and fresh approach which _ provide a strong and fresh approach which means— provide a strong and fresh approach which means they _ provide a strong and fresh approach which means they are _ provide a strong and fresh approach which means they are serving - provide a strong and fresh approach which means they are serving whati which means they are serving what people _ which means they are serving what people need — which means they are serving what people need and _ which means they are serving what people need and want _ which means they are serving what people need and want and - which means they are serving what people need and want and not - which means they are serving what people need and want and not any| people need and want and not any other— people need and want and not any other national— people need and want and not any other national party— people need and want and not any other national party agenda, - people need and want and not any other national party agenda, so i people need and want and not any other national party agenda, so it| other national party agenda, so it much _ other national party agenda, so it much more — other national party agenda, so it much more genuine _ other national party agenda, so it much more genuine and - other national party agenda, so it much more genuine and strong. much more genuine and strong representation— much more genuine and strong representation locally. - much more genuine and strong representation locally. that's l representation locally. that's bringing _ representation locally. that's bringing all— representation locally. that's bringing all those _ representation locally. that's bringing all those resources i representation locally. that's i bringing all those resources that the council— bringing all those resources that the council spend, _ bringing all those resources that the council spend, and - bringing all those resources that the council spend, and people . bringing all those resources that - the council spend, and people forget they do— the council spend, and people forget they do quite — the council spend, and people forget they do quite a — the council spend, and people forget they do quite a lot _ the council spend, and people forget they do quite a lot of _ the council spend, and people forget they do quite a lot of millions - they do quite a lot of millions necessarily— they do quite a lot of millions necessarily because - they do quite a lot of millions necessarily because we - they do quite a lot of millions necessarily because we are l they do quite a lot of millions - necessarily because we are doing so much. _ necessarily because we are doing so much, and _ necessarily because we are doing so much, and that— necessarily because we are doing so much, and that is— necessarily because we are doing so much, and that is why— necessarily because we are doing so much, and that is why it— necessarily because we are doing so much, and that is why it is- much, and that is why it is important _ much, and that is why it is important we _ much, and that is why it is important we make - much, and that is why it is important we make sure l much, and that is why it is. important we make sure we much, and that is why it is- important we make sure we have independent _ important we make sure we have independent councillors - important we make sure we have independent councillors who - important we make sure we have independent councillors who are i independent councillors who are listening — independent councillors who are listening to _ independent councillors who are listening to local— independent councillors who are listening to local people - independent councillors who are listening to local people and - independent councillors who are . listening to local people and really bringing _ listening to local people and really bringing those _ listening to local people and really bringing those resources _ listening to local people and really bringing those resources to - listening to local people and really bringing those resources to focus. listening to local people and really i bringing those resources to focus on the needs— bringing those resources to focus on the needs of— bringing those resources to focus on the needs of local— bringing those resources to focus on the needs of local people, _ bringing those resources to focus on the needs of local people, and - bringing those resources to focus on the needs of local people, and as i the needs of local people, and as you rightly— the needs of local people, and as you rightly recognised _ the needs of local people, and as you rightly recognised there - the needs of local people, and as you rightly recognised there are i

you rightly recognised there are plenty _ you rightly recognised there are plenty at — you rightly recognised there are plenty at the _ you rightly recognised there are plenty at the moment, - you rightly recognised there arej plenty at the moment, certainly you rightly recognised there are i plenty at the moment, certainly on the doorsteps— plenty at the moment, certainly on the doorsteps i_ plenty at the moment, certainly on the doorsteps i can _ plenty at the moment, certainly on the doorsteps i can give _ plenty at the moment, certainly on the doorsteps i can give you - plenty at the moment, certainly on the doorsteps i can give you a - plenty at the moment, certainly on the doorsteps i can give you a fewl the doorsteps i can give you a few things _ the doorsteps i can give you a few things we — the doorsteps i can give you a few things we have _ the doorsteps i can give you a few things. we have had _ the doorsteps i can give you a few things. we have had the - the doorsteps i can give you a few things. we have had the cost- the doorsteps i can give you a few things. we have had the cost of. things. we have had the cost of living _ things. we have had the cost of living but— things. we have had the cost of living but the _ things. we have had the cost of living but the big _ things. we have had the cost of living but the big thing - things. we have had the cost of living but the big thing for- things. we have had the cost of living but the big thing for us i things. we have had the cost of. living but the big thing for us has been _ living but the big thing for us has been access— living but the big thing for us has been access to _ living but the big thing for us has been access to services. - living but the big thing for us has been access to services. people. living but the big thing for us has i been access to services. people see difficulty— been access to services. people see difficulty accessing _ been access to services. people see difficulty accessing their _ been access to services. people see difficulty accessing their gp - been access to services. people see difficulty accessing their gp or - difficulty accessing their gp or difficulty— difficulty accessing their gp or difficulty with _ difficulty accessing their gp or difficulty with hospital- difficulty accessing their gp or difficulty with hospital waiting | difficulty with hospital waiting times — difficulty with hospital waiting times 39 _ difficulty with hospital waiting times. 39 hours _ difficulty with hospital waiting times. 39 hours is _ difficulty with hospital waiting times. 39 hours is not - difficulty with hospital waiting - times. 39 hours is not uncommon. it isjust— times. 39 hours is not uncommon. it isiust not— times. 39 hours is not uncommon. it is just not acceptable, _ times. 39 hours is not uncommon. it is just not acceptable, and _ isjust not acceptable, and ambulances, _ isjust not acceptable, and ambulances, well, - isjust not acceptable, and ambulances, well, they. is just not acceptable, and . ambulances, well, they can't is just not acceptable, and - ambulances, well, they can't make is just not acceptable, and _ ambulances, well, they can't make it at all~ _ ambulances, well, they can't make it at all~ it— ambulances, well, they can't make it at all~ it is— ambulances, well, they can't make it at all. it is really— ambulances, well, they can't make it at all. it is really not _ ambulances, well, they can't make it at all. it is really not good _ ambulances, well, they can't make it at all. it is really not good enough. at all. it is really not good enough because _ at all. it is really not good enough because people _ at all. it is really not good enough because people feel— at all. it is really not good enough because people feel they - at all. it is really not good enough because people feel they are - at all. it is really not good enough. because people feel they are paying the same. _ because people feel they are paying the same. they— because people feel they are paying the same, they have _ because people feel they are paying the same, they have been - because people feel they are paying i the same, they have been continuing on that— the same, they have been continuing on that and _ the same, they have been continuing on that and they _ the same, they have been continuing on that and they did _ the same, they have been continuing on that and they did not _ the same, they have been continuing on that and they did not get - the same, they have been continuing on that and they did not get what - on that and they did not get what they thought _ on that and they did not get what they thought they— on that and they did not get what they thought they were _ on that and they did not get what they thought they were paying i on that and they did not get what. they thought they were paying for. marianne, — they thought they were paying for. marianne, i— they thought they were paying for. marianne, idon't— they thought they were paying for. marianne, i don't know— they thought they were paying for. marianne, idon't know if- they thought they were paying for. marianne, i don't know if you - they thought they were paying for. marianne, i don't know if you havej marianne, i don't know if you have time to stay with us because i will get some reflections on what you have just said from her studio guests. chris, it is interesting the number of independents, the large number of independents, the large number of independent running services, local services, number of independent running services, localservices, because these are local elections, better in many places, as marianne has said. why do you think it is?— why do you think it is? well, there is a certain — why do you think it is? well, there is a certain amount _ why do you think it is? well, there is a certain amount of _ why do you think it is? well, there is a certain amount of fatigue - why do you think it is? well, there is a certain amount of fatigue with | is a certain amount of fatigue with westminster politics generally and i think one _ westminster politics generally and i think one of the ways that can find

expression — think one of the ways that can find expression is by electing independents. clearly, both political parties have baggage of different kinds that divide on positions on national issues, some positive, _ positions on national issues, some positive, some negative, and that applies— positive, some negative, and that applies to — positive, some negative, and that applies to both parties. clearly when _ applies to both parties. clearly when someone runs locally as an independent they don't have any of that national stuff that goes with it, that national stuff that goes with it. so— that national stuff that goes with it, so they can focus exclusively on local _ it, so they can focus exclusively on local issues — it, so they can focus exclusively on local issues. of course there are local issues. of course there are many— local issues. of course there are many conservative and indeed labour local councillors who do a really good _ local councillors who do a really good job — local councillors who do a really good job as well, but i think independents have that sort of advantage. i would say the conservative councillors where they are elected do generally do a better 'ob are elected do generally do a better job delivering better services for lower— job delivering better services for lower council tax and we have seen those _ lower council tax and we have seen those councils, croydon, slough, that labour— those councils, croydon, slough, that labour in the past have bankrupt. that is my diagnosis of why we _ bankrupt. that is my diagnosis of why we see independents doing well. marianne, _ why we see independents doing well. marianne, you're shaking your head. what you want to say? i marianne, you're shaking your head. what you want to say?— what you want to say? i think that is uuite what you want to say? i think that is quite wrong- — what you want to say? i think that is quite wrong. we _ what you want to say? i think that is quite wrong. we have _ what you want to say? i think that is quite wrong. we have had - what you want to say? i think that is quite wrong. we have had some councils— is quite wrong. we have had some councils which— is quite wrong. we have had some councils which have _ is quite wrong. we have had some councils which have failed - is quite wrong. we have had some councils which have failed and - is quite wrong. we have had some| councils which have failed and they have conservative _ councils which have failed and they have conservative run— councils which have failed and they have conservative run was - councils which have failed and they have conservative run was not - councils which have failed and they have conservative run was not one| councils which have failed and they. have conservative run was not one of the things—

have conservative run was not one of the things that — have conservative run was not one of the things that has _ have conservative run was not one of the things that has not _ have conservative run was not one of the things that has not helped - have conservative run was not one of the things that has not helped theml the things that has not helped them is the _ the things that has not helped them is the conservative _ the things that has not helped them is the conservative principle - the things that has not helped them is the conservative principle of- is the conservative principle of encouraging _ is the conservative principle of encouraging councils - is the conservative principle of encouraging councils to - is the conservative principle of encouraging councils to invest| is the conservative principle of- encouraging councils to invest with some _ encouraging councils to invest with some risk — encouraging councils to invest with some risk at— encouraging councils to invest with some risk. at one _ encouraging councils to invest with some risk. at one time _ encouraging councils to invest with some risk. at one time we - encouraging councils to invest with some risk. at one time we were i encouraging councils to invest withj some risk. at one time we were all encouraged — some risk. at one time we were all encouraged to _ some risk. at one time we were all encouraged to take _ some risk. at one time we were all encouraged to take more _ some risk. at one time we were all encouraged to take more risk- some risk. at one time we were all encouraged to take more risk withl encouraged to take more risk with their— encouraged to take more risk with their investments— encouraged to take more risk with their investments so _ encouraged to take more risk with their investments so people - encouraged to take more risk with| their investments so people would make _ their investments so people would make money— their investments so people would make money to _ their investments so people would make money to provide _ their investments so people would make money to provide the - their investments so people would i make money to provide the services ourselves, _ make money to provide the services ourselves, and — make money to provide the services ourselves, and that _ make money to provide the services ourselves, and that was _ make money to provide the services ourselves, and that was the - make money to provide the services ourselves, and that was the policy. i ourselves, and that was the policy. a number— ourselves, and that was the policy. a number of— ourselves, and that was the policy. a number of councils, _ ourselves, and that was the policy. a number of councils, particularly. a number of councils, particularly conservative _ a number of councils, particularly conservative ones _ a number of councils, particularly conservative ones who _ a number of councils, particularly conservative ones who are - a number of councils, particularly . conservative ones who are following what they— conservative ones who are following what they were _ conservative ones who are following what they were encouraged - conservative ones who are following what they were encouraged to - conservative ones who are following what they were encouraged to do, i conservative ones who are following . what they were encouraged to do, has meant _ what they were encouraged to do, has meant they— what they were encouraged to do, has meant they are — what they were encouraged to do, has meant they are now— what they were encouraged to do, has meant they are now in _ what they were encouraged to do, has meant they are now in big _ what they were encouraged to do, has meant they are now in big trouble - meant they are now in big trouble because _ meant they are now in big trouble because of— meant they are now in big trouble because of those _ meant they are now in big trouble because of those investments... meant they are now in big trouble i because of those investments... [tyre because of those investments... i've been because of those investments... been considered about that for a while _ been considered about that for a while and — been considered about that for a while and actually as a backbencher i while and actually as a backbencher l lobbied _ while and actually as a backbencher i lobbied the then chancellor philip hammond to tighten up the rules around _ hammond to tighten up the rules around the public work loans board because _ around the public work loans board because some councils were ridiculously speculating and those rules— ridiculously speculating and those rules have rightly been tightened up —— recklessly speculatively. they were _ —— recklessly speculatively. they were not— —— recklessly speculatively. they were not encouraged. they were wrong to do so— were not encouraged. they were wrong to do so and _ were not encouraged. they were wrong to do so and that is what i personally campaigned against. we had sessions saying, look, you have to be _ had sessions saying, look, you have to be less _ had sessions saying, look, you have to be less risk— had sessions saying, look, you have to be less risk averse... _ had sessions saying, look, you have to be less risk averse... our- to be less risk averse... our council— to be less risk averse... our council didn't— to be less risk averse... our council didn't do— to be less risk averse... our council didn't do it -

to be less risk averse... our council didn't do it but - to be less risk averse... our council didn't do it but a - to be less risk averse... our- council didn't do it but a number dead _ council didn't do it but a number dead. , , ., ., dead. let me bring in emily for a response- _ dead. let me bring in emily for a response. there _ dead. let me bring in emily for a response. there are _ dead. let me bring in emily for a response. there are two - dead. let me bring in emily for a response. there are two things. | dead. let me bring in emily for a - response. there are two things. you don't have the infrastructure —— unabated. but on the other hand you don't have the party political baggage to deal with either. you can just run services in the best way you see fit. i just run services in the best way you see fit-— you see fit. i spent a lot of the time campaigning _ you see fit. i spent a lot of the time campaigning in _ you see fit. i spent a lot of the time campaigning in teesside | you see fit. i spent a lot of the - time campaigning in teesside where there are _ time campaigning in teesside where there are lots of independents and i thought— there are lots of independents and i thought it _ there are lots of independents and i thought it was really interesting talking — thought it was really interesting talking to people about that because, to be honest, in many ways where _ because, to be honest, in many ways where people had got fed up with the tories _ where people had got fed up with the tories last— where people had got fed up with the tories last time they park their bouts — tories last time they park their bouts quite often with independents on teesside, and so there was very little _ on teesside, and so there was very little difference in many ways... some _ little difference in many ways... some stage. little difference in many ways... some stage-— some stage. the mayor in middlesbrough _ some stage. the mayor in middlesbrough has - some stage. the mayor in middlesbrough has gone i some stage. the mayor in - middlesbrough has gone from independent, and we have this lovely luy independent, and we have this lovely guy called _ independent, and we have this lovely guy called chris cook, i mean, seriously, _ guy called chris cook, i mean, seriously, i_ guy called chris cook, i mean, seriously, i have met him. he is not a show— seriously, i have met him. he is not a show off, — seriously, i have met him. he is not a show off, he — seriously, i have met him. he is not a show off, he isjust a genuine, hard—working bloke who is going to make _ hard—working bloke who is going to make a _ hard—working bloke who is going to make a really good mayor. we have 'ust make a really good mayor. we have just won _ make a really good mayor. we have just won back middlesbrough and i presume _ just won back middlesbrough and i presume the reason we have is because — presume the reason we have is because of— presume the reason we have is because of getting rid of a lot of these _ because of getting rid of a lot of these independents, and as i said it was quite _ these independents, and as i said it was quite difficult, and they were supporting the conservatives, quite

often _ supporting the conservatives, quite often. where they had been identified with the conservatives they are — identified with the conservatives they are not doing well. a identified with the conservatives they are not doing well.- they are not doing well. a final word from _ they are not doing well. a final word from you _ they are not doing well. a final word from you in _ they are not doing well. a final word from you in response, - they are not doing well. a final - word from you in response, marianne. i think it is absolutely vital independents— i think it is absolutely vital independents are - i think it is absolutely vital . independents are recognised i think it is absolutely vital - independents are recognised for the fact they— independents are recognised for the fact they are — independents are recognised for the fact they are focusing _ independents are recognised for the fact they are focusing on _ independents are recognised for the fact they are focusing on the - independents are recognised for the fact they are focusing on the needsl fact they are focusing on the needs of local— fact they are focusing on the needs of local areas _ fact they are focusing on the needs of local areas. they— fact they are focusing on the needs of local areas. they are _ fact they are focusing on the needs of local areas. they are not - fact they are focusing on the needs of local areas. they are not taking i of local areas. they are not taking some _ of local areas. they are not taking some bigger— of local areas. they are not taking some bigger agenda _ of local areas. they are not taking some bigger agenda and - of local areas. they are not taking - some bigger agenda and implementing it and the _ some bigger agenda and implementing it and the beauty— some bigger agenda and implementing it and the beauty of— some bigger agenda and implementing it and the beauty of focusing _ some bigger agenda and implementing it and the beauty of focusing on - it and the beauty of focusing on local— it and the beauty of focusing on local is— it and the beauty of focusing on local is where _ it and the beauty of focusing on local is where they _ it and the beauty of focusing on local is where they are - it and the beauty of focusing on local is where they are in - it and the beauty of focusing on i local is where they are in councils very often — local is where they are in councils very often they _ local is where they are in councils very often they are _ local is where they are in councils very often they are having - local is where they are in councils very often they are having an - local is where they are in councils i very often they are having an impact that is_ very often they are having an impact that is helping — very often they are having an impact that is helping the _ very often they are having an impact that is helping the council— very often they are having an impact that is helping the council do- very often they are having an impact that is helping the council do a - that is helping the council do a better— that is helping the council do a betteriob _ that is helping the council do a betterjob and _ that is helping the council do a betterjob and actually - that is helping the council do a betterjob and actually in - that is helping the council do a| betterjob and actually in some cases— betterjob and actually in some cases where _ betterjob and actually in some cases where that _ betterjob and actually in some cases where that is _ betterjob and actually in some cases where that is the - betterjob and actually in some cases where that is the case i betterjob and actually in somei cases where that is the case the conservatives— cases where that is the case the conservatives have _ cases where that is the case the conservatives have not - cases where that is the case the conservatives have not had - cases where that is the case the i conservatives have not had such significant — conservatives have not had such significant losses _ conservatives have not had such significant losses because - conservatives have not had such significant losses because the l significant losses because the conservatives _ significant losses because the conservatives have _ significant losses because the conservatives have been... i significant losses because the - conservatives have been... sorry, the conservatives _ conservatives have been... sorry, the conservatives have _ conservatives have been... sorry, the conservatives have not - conservatives have been... sorry, the conservatives have not had i conservatives have been... sorry, l the conservatives have not had the tosses _ the conservatives have not had the losses because _ the conservatives have not had the losses because the _ the conservatives have not had the losses because the independents. the conservatives have not had the . losses because the independents have been helping _ losses because the independents have been helping them _ losses because the independents have been helping them to— losses because the independents have been helping them to get— losses because the independents have been helping them to get it _ losses because the independents have been helping them to get it right. - been helping them to get it right. all right, — been helping them to get it right. all right, marianne _ been helping them to get it right. all right, marianne overton, - been helping them to get it right. | all right, marianne overton, thank you very much for that. we will catch up with some of the other results and get some analysis from david wallace lockhart at the touch screen. david? is. david wallace lockhart at the touch screen. david?— screen. david? jo, we have been talkin: screen. david? jo, we have been talking about _ screen. david? jo, we have been talking about lot _ screen. david? jo, we have been talking about lot about _ screen. david? jo, we have been talking about lot about how- screen. david? jo, we have been i talking about lot about how labour, the conservatives and lib dems have got on but also some good results for the green party as well. let's

look at some of them, starting east hertfordshire. this is sort of red bishops stopford, conservative since 1999, but not any more. the conservatives have lost it and it has gone to no overall control, no party with a majority, and at this point counting is still going on but the greens look like the biggest party on the council. they won't get a majority on this council, out of reach, but very interesting shifts going on. looking at what has happened to the conservative vote in terms of seats, down 25 since 2019, complete collapse there. the greens are the main beneficiaries, up by 16. a more interesting green seat to watch, mid su suffolk, their great hope going into these local elections when they thought they might be able to get a majority for the first time ever —— mid suffolk. we have seen pictures of the celebrations going on that suggest the greens are quite confident about this. our most recent stat suggests

23 out of 3a seats declared so far and the greens on 16, they need 18 for a majority, so things looking quite good for them. look at the history of the seat. conservative going back quite some long time. that would be some story of the greens managed to get a majority there, and we can look at how the seats have changed. quite an easy story to tell. the conservatives so far down by six and the green party up far down by six and the green party up by far down by six and the green party up by six. if we go to darlington in the tees valley, you can see how the greens performing well can have a bit of an impact on the labour party because darlington did used to be a labour council, they lost overall control of it in 2019. perhaps would have been hoping going into the set of local elections to get it back but they got 25 seats and that is one short of the 26 seats they needed to get a majority. looking at the changes, it tells a bit of the story. labour up by five, the

conservative vote down by eight and the greens have also gone up by five so the green party there perhaps denying labour the chance to get that majority. perhaps the two parties now having to work together in darlington. compare that to another result we have heard about in bracknell forest in the home counties, where it looks like on the ground there was an alliance going on between labour, the lib dems and the green party that has meant that council has gone from conservative to labour through the greens perhaps giving labour slightly easier run, not however in darlington where the greens have had quite a good result alongside labour but leaving no party with overall control. if you want to find out what is happening locally in your area regarding these locally in your area regarding these local elections, you can go on the bbc news website, put in your postcode and you will get the latest on local elections where you are, but still more results coming in now and still plenty of councils to keep watching.

and still plenty of councils to keep watchinu. . . watching. david, david wallace lockhart, thank _ watching. david, david wallace lockhart, thank you _ watching. david, david wallace lockhart, thank you for - watching. david, david wallace | lockhart, thank you for bringing watching. david, david wallace - lockhart, thank you for bringing us up—to—date. since we have been talking and you were giving some of the detail and analysis on the performance of the greens we can talk to their co—leader, adrian ramsay. adrian, can you hear me? ah, we can't hear you at the moment. although i can see you can obviously hear me. ah! now we can, don't worry! we will try again. hello, adrian. it looks like you have got a majority in mid suffolk. i think thatis majority in mid suffolk. i think that is what you are setting the hearing. well, congratulations. that is the first time you will have a majority on the council, because as we were talking about before in brighton and hold you run a sort of minority administration. what will you do with it in mid suffolk? weill. you do with it in mid suffolk? well, we are delighted _ you do with it in mid suffolk? well, we are delighted that _ you do with it in mid suffolk? well, we are delighted that residents of mid suffolk— we are delighted that residents of mid suffolk have _ we are delighted that residents of mid suffolk have put _ we are delighted that residents of mid suffolk have put their - we are delighted that residents of mid suffolk have put their trust i we are delighted that residents of mid suffolk have put their trust inj mid suffolk have put their trust in greens, _ mid suffolk have put their trust in greens, as — mid suffolk have put their trust in greens, as they— mid suffolk have put their trust in greens, as they have _ mid suffolk have put their trust in greens, as they have been - mid suffolk have put their trust in greens, as they have been doingi mid suffolk have put their trust in - greens, as they have been doing over the last— greens, as they have been doing over the last 20 _ greens, as they have been doing over the last 20 years _ greens, as they have been doing over the last 20 years. we _ greens, as they have been doing over the last 20 years. we have _ greens, as they have been doing over the last 20 years. we have seen - the last 20 years. we have seen increases — the last 20 years. we have seen increases in _ the last 20 years. we have seen increases in the _ the last 20 years. we have seen increases in the number- the last 20 years. we have seen increases in the number of - the last 20 years. we have seen l increases in the number of greens councillors — increases in the number of greens councillors in _ increases in the number of greens councillors in election _ increases in the number of greens councillors in election after-

councillors in election after election. _ councillors in election after election, people _ councillors in election after election, people putting i councillors in election after. election, people putting their confidence _ election, people putting their confidence in _ election, people putting their confidence in the _ election, people putting their confidence in the green - election, people putting their confidence in the green partyj confidence in the green party because _ confidence in the green party because they _ confidence in the green party because they want _ confidence in the green party because they want green - confidence in the green party- because they want green councillors who work— because they want green councillors who work hard — because they want green councillors who work hard for— because they want green councillors who work hard for their _ because they want green councillors who work hard for their community. who work hard for their community and also _ who work hard for their community and also will — who work hard for their community and also will make _ who work hard for their community and also will make a _ who work hard for their community and also will make a real _ who work hard for their community| and also will make a real difference on issues _ and also will make a real difference on issues such _ and also will make a real difference on issues such as _ and also will make a real difference on issues such as housing - and also will make a real difference on issues such as housing and - on issues such as housing and planning, _ on issues such as housing and planning, things— on issues such as housing and planning, things that - on issues such as housing and planning, things that have - on issues such as housing and i planning, things that have been coming — planning, things that have been coming up — planning, things that have been coming up on _ planning, things that have been coming up on the _ planning, things that have been coming up on the doorstep - planning, things that have been. coming up on the doorstep around protecting — coming up on the doorstep around protecting the _ coming up on the doorstep around protecting the local— coming up on the doorstep around protecting the local environment l protecting the local environment come _ protecting the local environment come around _ protecting the local environment come around ensuring _ protecting the local environment come around ensuring the - protecting the local environmenti come around ensuring the homes protecting the local environment - come around ensuring the homes being built are _ come around ensuring the homes being built are affordable _ come around ensuring the homes being built are affordable to _ come around ensuring the homes being built are affordable to local _ built are affordable to local people _ built are affordable to local people. wett— built are affordable to local people. well they- built are affordable to local people. well they might i built are affordable to local - people. well they might within as much _ people. well they might within as much of— people. well they might within as much of the — people. well they might within as much of the powers _ people. well they might within as much of the powers councils - people. well they might within as much of the powers councils havej people. well they might within as i much of the powers councils have we want to _ much of the powers councils have we want to see — much of the powers councils have we want to see more _ much of the powers councils have we want to see more social— much of the powers councils have we want to see more social housing - want to see more social housing built, _ want to see more social housing built, built— want to see more social housing built, built to— want to see more social housing built, built to a _ want to see more social housing built, built to a high _ want to see more social housing i built, built to a high environmental standards— built, built to a high environmental standards as — built, built to a high environmental standards as well— built, built to a high environmental standards as well so _ built, built to a high environmental standards as well so it _ built, built to a high environmental standards as well so it is _ standards as well so it is affordable _ standards as well so it is affordable to _ standards as well so it is affordable to people - standards as well so it is affordable to people and standards as well so it is - affordable to people and making standards as well so it is _ affordable to people and making sure developers _ affordable to people and making sure developers are — affordable to people and making sure developers are pushed _ affordable to people and making sure developers are pushed into _ affordable to people and making sure developers are pushed into investing| developers are pushed into investing in the _ developers are pushed into investing in the infrastructure _ developers are pushed into investing in the infrastructure you _ developers are pushed into investing in the infrastructure you need - developers are pushed into investing in the infrastructure you need so - developers are pushed into investing in the infrastructure you need so we i in the infrastructure you need so we are building — in the infrastructure you need so we are building communities— in the infrastructure you need so we are building communities as - in the infrastructure you need so we are building communities as well. . are building communities as well. right. _ are building communities as well. right. but — are building communities as well. right. but how— are building communities as well. right, but how will— are building communities as well. right, but how will you _ are building communities as well. right, but how will you do - are building communities as well. right, but how will you do that, l right, but how will you do that, adrian? that is easier said than done when it comes to developers and forcing them, or at least coercing them, into actually building and developing homes that are notjust affordable in a broad sense but that real people can actually afford to live in?

for example in york, and we want to do the same here in mid suffolk, ensure that the homes are built are built to a high environmental stan torpid with renewable energy which keeps peep's bills down, there a certain amount we can do an we have more authorities where greens are in a real position of power an influence, with a majority here in mid suffolk, but there is more that needs to be done at a national level. �* , ., needs to be done at a national level. �* ,, ., , needs to be done at a national level. �* i. ., , . needs to be done at a national level. �* y., ., , ., ., . level. but you only have one mp. well, at this _ level. but you only have one mp. well, at this election, _ level. but you only have one mp. well, at this election, what - level. but you only have one mp. well, at this election, what we i level. but you only have one mp. i well, at this election, what we have seen is a big concentration of green councillors elected in places like here and mid suffolk, enumbers in herefordshire, in bristol where we are the largest party, that paves the way for us to gain more green mps. ~ , ., , ., the way for us to gain more green mps.~ , ., , ., mps. why does it, well, do you not acce -t mps. why does it, well, do you not accept though. _ mps. why does it, well, do you not accept though, history _ mps. why does it, well, do you not accept though, history hasn't - mps. why does it, well, do you not| accept though, history hasn't proven that, if you like, it is still caroline lucas on her own new the

house of commons, and actually people might have decided this time they would like do you run their service but when it comes to a national level, if as other green acts visits have said you want to get the tories out you vote liberal democrat, you don't volt green? well, round here in mid suffolk you would be struggling to find too many labour or liberal democrat people knocking on doors or too many of their candidates, the greens are clearly the main challenger and the same in other areas such as herefordshire where greens are building, so people will know in those places where greens are the main challenger as we are in bristol west for example we are campaigning hard to win the next set of green mps in theirarea. hard to win the next set of green mps in their area. if you look the issues people are raising, cleaner environment, tackling equality, they need more greens elected as a national level so we can make a difference in fight for fairer greener communities.

difference in fight for fairer areener communities. . . . greener communities. adrian ramsay, we are reporting _ greener communities. adrian ramsay, we are reporting that _ greener communities. adrian ramsay, we are reporting that the _ greener communities. adrian ramsay, we are reporting that the greens - we are reporting that the greens have won that majority, in mid suffolk, giving them their first council as a majority, and, any reflections susie, in terms of adrian ramsay feeling this perhaps finally, is you know, a sign that the greens are on the march? think the are the greens are on the march? think they are benefitting _ the greens are on the march? think they are benefitting from _ the greens are on the march? think they are benefitting from the - the greens are on the march? t"! “if. they are benefitting from the same thing that labour is which is how badly the conservatives are doing and someone is picking the other candidate but let us take a second and say, i am going to be really fair and kind and say, i am going to be really fairand kind to and say, i am going to be really fair and kind to rishi sunakfor a bit here, which is that, when he came in, after liz truss and boris johnson, it was a safe pair of hands, and the ministers i have spoken to and the people i have spoken to and the people i have spoken to, the tory grandees they know they won't win the next election, they are not even optimistic they are going to win the next election, the ones i speak to, don't speak to you. laughter. maybe you should.

laughter. ma be ou should. . ., , maybe you should. the idea of rishi cominu in maybe you should. the idea of rishi coming in was _ maybe you should. the idea of rishi coming in was to _ maybe you should. the idea of rishi coming in was to get _ maybe you should. the idea of rishi coming in was to get as _ maybe you should. the idea of rishi coming in was to get as many - maybe you should. the idea of rishi| coming in was to get as many people on the lifeboat, if liz truss was still prime minister, if boris johnson was still prime minister, chris wouldn't be saying he was disappointed he would be openly weeping and begging for it to end. does that mean there is something to play for? because rishi sunak is not borisjohnson, or liz truss, the problem is... i boris johnson, or liz truss, the problem ism— boris johnson, or liz truss, the problem is... i don't think that is the case any _ problem is... i don't think that is the case any more, _ problem is... i don't think that is the case any more, i _ problem is. .. i don't think that is the case any more, i feel- problem is... i don't think that is the case any more, i feel talking | problem is... i don't think that is i the case any more, i feel talking to mp5, there is that hope isjust mps, there is that hope isjust beginning to creep back in there and people are... beginning to creep back in there and people are- - -— people are... they are not the voters. people are... they are not the voters- the — people are... they are not the voters. the election _ people are... they are not the voters. the election was - people are... they are not the voters. the election was lost i people are... they are not the l voters. the election was lost at barnard castle. _ voters. the election was lost at barnard castle. they _ voters. the election was lost at barnard castle. they are - voters. the election was lost at barnard castle. they are losing| voters. the election was lost at i barnard castle. they are losing it in different ways since. i barnard castle. they are losing it in different ways since.— in different ways since. i think there is going _ in different ways since. i think there is going to _ in different ways since. i think there is going to be _ in different ways since. i think there is going to be an - in different ways since. i think i there is going to be an argument in different ways since. i think - there is going to be an argument in there is going to be an argument in the next _ there is going to be an argument in the next year or so, that that is going _ the next year or so, that that is going to — the next year or so, that that is going to fade from people's, from voters' _ going to fade from people's, from voters' minds, think it will be a new— voters' minds, think it will be a new prime _ voters' minds, think it will be a new prime minister making new priorities— new prime minister making new priorities and he will be able to distance — priorities and he will be able to distance himself to make that case at the _ distance himself to make that case at the next — distance himself to make that case at the next general election, he has put that— at the next general election, he has put that behind him. rishi sunak is not boris _ put that behind him. rishi sunak is

not borisjohnson, he is not liz truss. — not borisjohnson, he is not liz truss. he — not borisjohnson, he is not liz truss. he is— not borisjohnson, he is not liz truss, he is making himself clear, clear— truss, he is making himself clear, clear blue — truss, he is making himself clear, clear blue water, there is a big case _ clear blue water, there is a big case for— clear blue water, there is a big case for that, come a year's time. do you _ case for that, come a year's time. do you think— case for that, come a year's time. do you think there will be nervousness from mps in local authority areas, that have gone back to labour, if they were former strongholds of, areas like stoke, three conservative mps but the council has gone back to labour, liam fox was saying it doesn't matter, they are different things, will there be nervousness, pressure put on rishi sunak to change something?— put on rishi sunak to change something? put on rishi sunak to change somethin: ? , ., , something? there should be, the conservatives _ something? there should be, the conservatives need _ something? there should be, the conservatives need to _ something? there should be, the conservatives need to look - something? there should be, the conservatives need to look at - something? there should be, the l conservatives need to look at these results today, and look at what does that mean? labour making gains across the country in the places they need to win another election, i don't think people, you know are arguing with that, i think the conservatives need to look at that and say what are we offering, if we are going to have an election in 12 months' time what do we need to do? there is policies we need to get in place to get that ready and to deliver on the five things, if that

is the case, rishi sunak has very much in tune with people, people keep bringing that up again and again, but if he can't show he can deliver it there will be a problem. let me show you the latest results are, we can show you here councils that we now have results for, gedling is a labour hold. no overall control. woking is a liberal democrat hold, we have been talking about the greens gaining mid suffolk, fylde there, the conservatives have held on to it. ashford in kent is no overall control, a hung council. torbay, we were talking to our correspondent in the south—west, wasn't sure that the conservatives would gain torbay and high peak is a labour gain in derbyshire. let me, let me show you tewkesbury, while torbay is good new, tewkesbury is less so, that is a bad result for the conservatives,

that loss of that council, we can see the liberal democrats are now the largest party and that is because if you look the change in seats they have gained eight. the conservatives have dropped 1a. independents and greens have gained three apiece, taking those two results, chris, you would agree that is a, that is a surprise loss really, in tewkesbury, and torbay, again. really, in tewkesbury, and torbay, aaain. , ,, , , , really, in tewkesbury, and torbay, auain. , ~ ,, _ again. delighted. tewkesbury you have shown _ again. delighted. tewkesbury you have shown the _ again. delighted. tewkesbury you have shown the figure, _ again. delighted. tewkesbury you have shown the figure, very - have shown the figure, very disappointing to lose that although the total number of seats are similar, liberal democrats only a little bit ahead but disappointing to lose it. no question. resulting torbay, fantastic to win that council back, great local mp kevin foster down there as well. not a single labour councillor i notice on that local authority, so delighted to have won one back torbay. obviously, mark harper is in the area of tewkesbury, isn't he, as

conservative mp, in that region, talking about nervousness, do you sense,is talking about nervousness, do you sense, is that right, i thought he was the... i sense, is that right, i thought he was the- - -_ sense, is that right, i thought he was the... ., ,, . , ., was the... i thought mark harper was forest of dean. _ was the... i thought mark harper was forest of dean. you _ was the... i thought mark harper was forest of dean. you maybe _ was the... i thought mark harper was forest of dean. you maybe right. - was the... i thought mark harper was forest of dean. you maybe right. he| forest of dean. you maybe right. he is not far forest of dean. you maybe right. he is rrot far away. _ forest of dean. you maybe right. he is not far away, do _ forest of dean. you maybe right. he is not far away, do you _ forest of dean. you maybe right. he is not far away, do you think- forest of dean. you maybe right. he is not far away, do you think there . is not far away, do you think there will be nervousness where the conservatives have lost strongholds look as an mp of either party is good to have lots of local councillors of your own party because you campaign together on local issue, you try to make a difference, and when it comes to the mechanics of campaigning delivering leaflet l it is good to have local councillors so i think colleagues will be disappointed, as i am, where we have, where we have lost councillors or council, but where we have made gains like in for day, —— torbay, slough. but have made gains like in for day, -- torbay. slough-— torbay, slough. but they are rare. there is no — torbay, slough. but they are rare. there is no question _ torbay, slough. but they are rare. there is no question it _ torbay, slough. but they are rare. there is no question it is - there is no question it is disappointing but without wanting to rehearse the arguments that we had half an hour ago, you know, labour are not performing at the level, that professor sirjohn curtice set

as a benchmark nor at the level that tony blair did in the 90s or david cameron in the late 20005. the tony blair did in the 90s or david cameron in the late 2000s. the point is where there — cameron in the late 2000s. the point is where there are _ cameron in the late 2000s. the point is where there are marginal— cameron in the late 2000s. the point is where there are marginal seats - cameron in the late 2000s. the point is where there are marginal seats we | is where there are marginal seats we need to— is where there are marginal seats we need to win — is where there are marginal seats we need to win for a party majority we are doing _ need to win for a party majority we are doing really well but also you know. _ are doing really well but also you know. you — are doing really well but also you know, you are in trouble in all kinds — know, you are in trouble in all kinds of— know, you are in trouble in all kinds of places, oliver dowden in east hertfordshire, you know, he talked _ east hertfordshire, you know, he talked about his constituency as being. _ talked about his constituency as being, the privet hedges of suburbia, i mean, so but he talked about— suburbia, i mean, so but he talked about the — suburbia, i mean, so but he talked about the private hedges of suburbia, that is what his constituency was, the private hedges of suburbia _ constituency was, the private hedges of suburbia seem to have spoken. spoken _ of suburbia seem to have spoken. spoken. they seem to have said they should _ spoken. they seem to have said they should natt— spoken. they seem to have said they should naff off. last spoken. they seem to have said they should naff off-— should naff off. last year, we had a conservative _ should naff off. last year, we had a conservative mayor _ should naff off. last year, we had a conservative mayor being _ should naff off. last year, we had a conservative mayor being elected l conservative mayor being elected because labour has bankrupted croydon council. ihla because labour has bankrupted croydon council.— because labour has bankrupted croydon council. no matter what colour they _ croydon council. no matter what colour they are, _ croydon council. no matter what colour they are, are _ croydon council. no matter what colour they are, are having - croydon council. no matter what colour they are, are having a - croydon council. no matter what i colour they are, are having a really difficult _ colour they are, are having a really difficult time when it comes to funding, — difficult time when it comes to funding, there is no doubt about it, and i_ funding, there is no doubt about it, and i have — funding, there is no doubt about it, and i have seen a number of

conservative councils being bailed out, and _ conservative councils being bailed out, and we have seen a number of councils— out, and we have seen a number of councils that — out, and we have seen a number of councils that have had a very difficult _ councils that have had a very difficult time. i understand that, everyone — difficult time. i understand that, everyone knows that councils are having _ everyone knows that councils are having a — everyone knows that councils are having a very difficult time and to be honest— having a very difficult time and to be honest the people who have been -ood be honest the people who have been good enough to put themselves forward, — good enough to put themselves forward, are certainly putting themselves forward to represent their communities in difficult times because _ their communities in difficult times because they are getting very little support _ because they are getting very little support. let because they are getting very little su ort. , ., because they are getting very little su . ort, , ., ., because they are getting very little su ort. , ., ., , . support. let us go from the private hedaes support. let us go from the private hed . es of support. let us go from the private hedges of suburbia _ support. let us go from the private hedges of suburbia to _ support. let us go from the private hedges of suburbia to our- support. let us go from the private hedges of suburbia to our studio i support. let us go from the private | hedges of suburbia to our studio not far away and talk to professor sir john curtice for the fun he has promised us with the house of commons projection which we can show you, we talked about it earlier around this is actually sort of calculated from the swing in local level and working out what a result similar swing at parliamentary level would bring. unlessjohn curtice wants to correct me, you need 326 for a majority in the house of commons, labour by this calculation are short, they are on 312, the conservatives on 226, liberal

democrats on a0 and others on 72. so, explain to us how these figures have been reached john? this so, explain to us how these figures have been reached john?— so, explain to us how these figures have been reached john? this is very siml have been reached john? this is very simply done — have been reached john? this is very simply done on _ have been reached john? this is very simply done on the _ have been reached john? this is very simply done on the basis _ have been reached john? this is very simply done on the basis of - simply done on the basis of comparing the numbers in our projected national share, that we unveiled just over half an hour ago, comparing them with what the parties got in december 2019, and basically saying, well, you know, the labour party, if the party is up by three points we assume that party's vote is up by three points, it is, you know, the honest truth is after a very long night, and a very long day, we arejust —— we very long night, and a very long day, we are just —— we just thought it might be interesting to manage a different world, a world in which people voted in general elections in the way they do in local elections and in a sense, it is about reminding people how different the two worlds are, so, just to be absolutely clear, we are not putting

this up, trying in any way to contradict or to confirm labour's claim to be doing well enough on to the basis of these results they have a chance of winning a general election, because in the end, you know, the truth is, we can't give a definitive answers to that question because people don't vote in the same way. it gives you an indication of, what the implications might be if westminster were to be voted for in this way, the point is, even using these numbers, labour nearly there, to 326, even though there are only 35% of the vote but not quite. in this world they might have to talk to the liberal democrats in order to stay a minority administration but rishi sunak will be out on his ear.— administration but rishi sunak will be out on his ear.- so, - administration but rishi sunak will be out on his ear. right. so, you know, be out on his ear. right. so, you know. that _ be out on his ear. right. so, you know. that is _ be out on his ear. right. so, you know, that is what _ be out on his ear. right. so, you know, that is what we _ be out on his ear. right. so, you know, that is what we just - be out on his ear. right. so, you know, that is what we just give l be out on his ear. right. so, you know, that is what we just give you as a little illustration of you know, what the system mightjust look like if the world were different. it

look like if the world were different-— different. it is nice to be transported _ different. it is nice to be transported to _ different. it is nice to be transported to a - different. it is nice to be | transported to a different different. it is nice to be - transported to a different world, thank you professor sirjohn curtice, very much for that house of commons projection, let me get reaction there. labour within striking distance, yes, all those caveats you heard from professor sir john curtice, but they are not far off are they? it john curtice, but they are not far off are they?— off are they? it is all good clean fun, off are they? it is all good clean fun. local _ off are they? it is all good clean fun, local elections _ off are they? it is all good clean fun, local elections are - off are they? it is all good clean| fun, local elections are different to... , we fun, local elections are different to. . .- we have _ fun, local elections are different to. . .- we have seen - fun, local elections are different to. . .- we have seen in . fun, local elections are different| to. . .- we have seen in the to... they r we have seen in the ast to... they r we have seen in the past party. _ to... they r we have seen in the past party. the — to... they r we have seen in the past party, the conservatives - to... they r we have seen in the past party, the conservatives inl past party, the conservatives in 2000 and 200a doing well in local election but going... tana; 2000 and 2004 doing well in local election but going. . ._ election but going... tony blair won, election but going... tony blair won. yes- _ election but going... tony blair won. yes- going _ election but going... tony blair won, yes. going on _ election but going... tony blair won, yes. going on the - election but going... tony blair won, yes. going on the lose . election but going... tony blair won, yes. going on the lose to | election but going... tony blair - won, yes. going on the lose to tony blair on both _ won, yes. going on the lose to tony blair on both occasion, _ won, yes. going on the lose to tony blair on both occasion, the - won, yes. going on the lose to tony blair on both occasion, the question i want answering is where is the swingometer, surely when we looking a them we need to have a swingometer, has the bbc been econmizing,— econmizing, you are trying for distraction _ econmizing, you are trying for distraction tactic, _ econmizing, you are trying for distraction tactic, we - econmizing, you are trying for distraction tactic, we may - econmizing, you are trying for| distraction tactic, we may have econmizing, you are trying for- distraction tactic, we may have one at the general election, you are just short, not as jonathan reynolds said, ihla just short, not as jonathan reynolds said, ., ., ., ., ., said, no we are on a path to winning a ma'ori

said, no we are on a path to winning a majority at — said, no we are on a path to winning a majority at the _ said, no we are on a path to winning a majority at the next _ said, no we are on a path to winning a majority at the next election. - said, no we are on a path to winning a majority at the next election. on i a majority at the next election. on the basis of this we have 72 independents we are not going to have 72 independents, people will need to make a choice between a labour and conservative government and as i said earlier this is the base camp, we have a mountain to climb but the view from here is all right. climb but the view from here is all riuht. ~ .. climb but the view from here is all riuht. ~ ., ., climb but the view from here is all riuht.~ ., ., i. climb but the view from here is all riuht. ~ ., ., ,, ~' climb but the view from here is all riuht. ~ ., ., i. ,, ., right. what do you think of the fiuures right. what do you think of the figures natasha? _ right. what do you think of the figures natasha? keir- right. what do you think of the figures natasha? keir starmer| right. what do you think of the - figures natasha? keir starmer has been saying all day a majority. not the largest party in the... interesting figures and that is sort of where, — interesting figures and that is sort of where, you know i think probably underestimating the conservatives in this swing, _ underestimating the conservatives in this swing, we know that a general election— this swing, we know that a general election is— this swing, we know that a general election is not going to look the same. — election is not going to look the same. but — election is not going to look the same, but yes, this is where i would say if— same, but yes, this is where i would say if i _ same, but yes, this is where i would say if i had _ same, but yes, this is where i would say if i had to— same, but yes, this is where i would say if i had to bet and i don't like betting. — say if i had to bet and i don't like betting, but if i had to bet on a general— betting, but if i had to bet on a general election, think that is where — general election, think that is where we _ general election, think that is where we are heading, you know, labour— where we are heading, you know, labour minority you know, that is where _ labour minority you know, that is where i_ labour minority you know, that is where i think we could be.- labour minority you know, that is where i think we could be. where do ou think, where i think we could be. where do you think. do _ where i think we could be. where do you think. do you — where i think we could be. where do you think, do you think _ where i think we could be. where do you think, do you think they - where i think we could be. where do you think, do you think they are - you think, do you think they are being too bullish about their prospect, this is not scientific in that sense, they are different sets

of elections but it is what politicians and us as westminster watchers like to look at and the voters would like to see. i watchers like to look at and the voters would like to see. i don't think anyone — live from london. this is bbc news. king charles makes a surprise visit to fans waiting on the mall with the prince and princess of wales. excited, bit nervous. obviously a big day ahead but can't wait, actually. a busy afternoon for the king — currently meeting commonwealth heads of state — ahead of a garden party here at the palace later this evening. at westminster abbey, final preparations for tomorrow's coronation as the king and queen consort attend a final rehearsal. the world health organization says covid—19 no longer represents a "global health emergency", a major step towards ending the pandemic. in england, the conservatives suffer

significant council losses in local election results. and the wagner mercenary group posts a social media video of its leader berating russia for not sending the force enough ammunition. as we look tomorrow's big event. katty is at westminster abbey with me. starting to get a feel that things are building up to the big day. there is a lot of security here, a lot of posh cars going back and forth. i have seen king is arriving at saint pancras station, king philippe arriving on the

eurostar, king isjetting in from all over. kings and queens from all over europe. many of them will be at the palace for a garden party this evening which led king and queen camilla will be hosting. it will get starts at 7pm, and finished only because he wants an early night. is only going to have dinner alone with camillo which is public the best thing to be doing ahead of what is the biggest day of your life. he has got to get up early tomorrow so it is good that he is taking it easy tonight. things are exciting here too at the abbey, all the flowers are inside, hundred and 20 different types of flowers. just a minute we will speak to the bishop of durham who is one of the assistants at the coronation service tomorrow and he was with the king today when he was having that last rehearsal so we can ask him all about what their king

was doing and watch those final rehearsals are looking like. we will also speak to zaki cooper who was a former assistant press assistant to the queen. you are right, the excitement is building. here outside westminster abbey as it has been down on the mound. i have been surprised by how many american voices i had. that wonderful woman earlierfrom texas on voices i had. that wonderful woman earlier from texas on the programme. tonnes of americans down at the mall, they are loving it. i tonnes of americans down at the mall, they are loving it.— mall, they are loving it. i have seen lots _ mall, they are loving it. i have seen lots of _ mall, they are loving it. i have seen lots of commonwealth i mall, they are loving it. i have i seen lots of commonwealth flags as well, people will come specially for the occasion. also the question of course about the cost of the coronation, no price tag put on it yet but there have been some estimates, around £100 million. is that good value? well if you look at the figures and the number of people coming in and the shot on the arm that it gives to their british tourism but london looking with all

the bunting, the mall looks absolutely fantastic and there are people who come specially for this and to see the cane and the prince and to see the cane and the prince and princess of wales meandering down the mall today. it's a real treat and lots of people sending pictures and videos home to people saying, we believe it i'm here and i've met them! what a thrill if you are here to see the royal family! lots of people and plenty of people looking forward to the big day, we are just looking forward to the big day, we arejust hoping looking forward to the big day, we are just hoping that it will keep fine tomorrow, the metal to say that is doomed to rain. lots of clout expected tomorrow. such an impact for later in the day and we get the flyby. for later in the day and we get the fl b . ., �* , for later in the day and we get the fl b . . �* , ., , for later in the day and we get the flb. ,., for later in the day and we get the flb. , ., flyby. that's rain this morning was extraordinary. _ flyby. that's rain this morning was extraordinary. it _ flyby. that's rain this morning was extraordinary. it felt _ flyby. that's rain this morning was extraordinary. it felt like - flyby. that's rain this morning was extraordinary. it felt like the - extraordinary. it felt like the tropics, the rain was pouring down so loud on the tin roof you could

barely hear anything. and then it pass, look at it now outside westminster abbey, absolutely perfect, lovely breeze and sunny. but it may a difference but think back to 1953, when the queen was crowned, it rained then to and that didn't seem to dampen the enthusiasm of the british public and the number of the british public and the number of people who turned out on a much longer parade. i think it was, was at the queen of togo who won the hearts of the crown by not having her cover pulled up on her carriage and rode in an open top carriage even though it was covered in rain. rain rain counts no rain, people will be watching on that, it will no effect to the people we are camped out. i effect to the people we are camped out. .. . effect to the people we are camped out. , , w effect to the people we are camped out. ,, ., ., out. i was speaking about how the 're out. i was speaking about how they're going _ out. i was speaking about how they're going get _ out. i was speaking about how they're going get everybody i out. i was speaking about howj they're going get everybody to out. i was speaking about how- they're going get everybody to the abbey. forthe they're going get everybody to the abbey. for the late queen's funeral, i'm not sure they will be busting

tomorrow but in the last coronation in 1953, the duke of devonshire came and he wanted to be in his carriage and he wanted to be in his carriage and he wanted to be in his carriage and he got lost in saintjames and was another due coming the other way anyone of his carriages and it was a right old men mess. the duke of devonshire got to the abbey trying to wrestle his sword and he cut his tunic! a royal pitcher who stitched up tunic! a royal pitcher who stitched up his breeches before he went to take his seat so let's hope it's a lot calmer tomorrow. i have seen the running orderfor tomorrow, can't running order for tomorrow, can't give running orderfor tomorrow, can't give you much detail about it yet but surprising to say that it is ticked up to precise. so that by 2:15pm, where the 68 aircraft come flying over buckingham palace, everybody in the right place at the right time.

everybody in the right place at the riaht time. ., ,, ., ., , right time. you know who it reminds me of? somebody _ right time. you know who it reminds me of? somebody you _ right time. you know who it reminds me of? somebody you much - right time. you know who it reminds me of? somebody you much of- right time. you know who it reminds me of? somebody you much of it i me of? somebody you much of it something and get their sword messed up something and get their sword messed up and messes up their outfit? i'm struggling to think of somebody else that might happen to... you struggling to think of somebody else that might happen to. . ._ struggling to think of somebody else that might happen to... you mean me! wron: that might happen to... you mean me! wrong code. — that might happen to... you mean me! wrong code. wrong _ that might happen to... you mean me! wrong code, wrong place, _ that might happen to... you mean me! wrong code, wrong place, wrong - wrong code, wrong place, wrong dress, wrong time! that is why moss invited! jiii dress, wrong time! that is why moss invited! , �* ., dress, wrong time! that is why moss invited! �* ., ., , , invited! jill biden who has been invited! jill biden who has been invited has _ invited! jill biden who has been invited has touched _ invited! jill biden who has been invited has touched down. - invited! jill biden who has been invited has touched down. withi invited! jill biden who has been i invited has touched down. with her granddaughter, there were some eyebrows raised about why the first lady of the united states managed to get a plus one but she did get a plus one. and alsojohn kerry, who i think i mentioned yesterday was asking whether he should wear a warning code or a suit. an interesting and vital as anything about prince charles, king charles and his engagement for a long time

now with environmental issues, who was a senior american issues, it is the environments are, that says a lot about king charles's priorities. of course king charles went to the united states when he was 21, he was called over to go to the nixon white house and made a very funny comment about how he had been invited nixon white house and are trying to marry him off with president nixon's daughter, tricia that he was invited because president nixon sent a memo and said we should get prince charles over, the prince of wales because he has a real gem and it would be great for us uk relationship and he makes a very good impression wherever he goes. so americans right back to president nixon have had their eye on now king charles. and saw him as somebody who was a useful diplomatic ally. i am

was a useful diplomatic ally. i am bein: told was a useful diplomatic ally. i am being told that _ was a useful diplomatic ally. i am being told that in _ was a useful diplomatic ally. i am being told that in the _ was a useful diplomatic ally. i am being told that in the last - was a useful diplomatic ally. i am being told that in the last few minutes, the former president donald trump has tweeted on his own social media platform and he said crooked joe biden is not going to the coronation and the uk is not happy. i don't think there is actually any posted for an american president coming to a coronation because the last was in 1953, before the jet age so i don't think anybody will be on duty towards the american president not being here. it's a really important occasion of course for king charles and queen camilla because there are leaders from around hundred countries that for the first time, monarchs, crowned one x actually at the coronation and that didn't happen in 1953 because of the spiritual side of the

coronation because the queen felt it was between her and god. things have been modernised and king charles has invited lots of the european family, who katty has been speaking to. she has been speaking to their side are coming to this event, shall we dip into what we saw a little earlier because the cane and the prince and princess of wales worked at the crown is down at the mall and the prince of wales went down the west side, the came down the right side. let's have a listen in. are you camping? yes, since

wednesday- _ are you camping? yes, since wednesday. i'm _ are you camping? yes, since wednesday. i'm from - are you camping? yes, since i wednesday. i'm from jamaica. i are you camping? yes, since - wednesday. i'm from jamaica. i love you so— wednesday. i'm from jamaica. i love you so much — wednesday. i'm from jamaica. i love you so much we _ wednesday. i'm from jamaica. i love you so much. we love _ wednesday. i'm from jamaica. i love you so much. we love you, - wednesday. i'm from jamaica. i love you so much. we love you, your- you so much. we love you, your majesty! — you so much. we love you, your majesty! sign— you so much. we love you, your majesty! sign that _ you so much. we love you, your majesty! sign that are _ you so much. we love you, your majesty! sign that are you i you so much. we love you, your majesty! sign that are you all. majesty! sign that are you all camping? _ majesty! sign that are you all camping? he— majesty! sign that are you all camuin? , majesty! sign that are you all camina? , ., , majesty! sign that are you all cam-ain? , ., , ., , majesty! sign that are you all camuin? ., , camping? he shook many many hands and on the other— camping? he shook many many hands and on the other side _ camping? he shook many many hands and on the other side of— camping? he shook many many hands and on the other side of the _ camping? he shook many many hands and on the other side of the mall - and on the other side of the mall was the prince and princess of wales, the three children, child counts charlotte, george and louis, they will be playing a key role tomorrow. the princess of wales as she was heading down the mall was asked specifically about whether there are any nerves in the family. so i'm that excited, bit nervous, obviously a big day ahead. abs]!!! so i'm that excited, bit nervous, obviously a big day ahead. all good, ho efull obviously a big day ahead. all good, hopefully relatively _ obviously a big day ahead. all good, hopefully relatively calm _ obviously a big day ahead. all good, hopefully relatively calm on - obviously a big day ahead. all good, hopefully relatively calm on the i hopefully relatively calm on the outside —

hopefully relatively calm on the outside. i'm sure he is looking forward — outside. i'm sure he is looking forward to— outside. i'm sure he is looking forward to it as well so it is nice to be _ forward to it as well so it is nice to be out— forward to it as well so it is nice to be out here and say hello to everyone — to be out here and say hello to everyone who has stayed out for so lon- everyone who has stayed out for so long and _ everyone who has stayed out for so long and will be overnight. are you staying _ long and will be overnight. are you staying out — long and will be overnight. are you staying out tonight? we long and will be overnight. are you staying out tonight?— staying out tonight? we are here every day- _ staying out tonight? we are here every day. hopefully _ staying out tonight? we are here every day. hopefully it _ staying out tonight? we are here every day. hopefully it is - staying out tonight? we are here every day. hopefully it is going i staying out tonight? we are here | every day. hopefully it is going to be dried — every day. hopefully it is going to be dried. ., ., , ., , , be dried. long hours for everybody. an early start _ be dried. long hours for everybody. an early start but _ be dried. long hours for everybody. an early start but i _ be dried. long hours for everybody. an early start but i think _ be dried. long hours for everybody. an early start but i think everybody| an early start but i think everybody has. no— an early start but i think everybody has. ., ., . ., , an early start but i think everybody has. ., .. ., , ., has. no detractors here, all the enthusiasts _ has. no detractors here, all the enthusiasts who _ has. no detractors here, all the enthusiasts who want _ has. no detractors here, all the enthusiasts who want to - has. no detractors here, all the enthusiasts who want to see i has. no detractors here, all the | enthusiasts who want to see just has. no detractors here, all the i enthusiasts who want to see just a bit of it tomorrow. one interesting element of news because there has been so much debate about that, just people that will replace the edge of the peers, obviously once the kmart has been anointed. people don't feel comfortable but swearing that agents

of the king, some of that has been changed. the wording has now been changed. the wording has now been changed and they are being invited to pay their allegiance to shout their allegiance to the king. just softening the lines is a little bit in the running order tomorrow. yes. in the running order tomorrow. yes, it's auoin in the running order tomorrow. yes, it's going to — in the running order tomorrow. yes, it's going to be _ in the running order tomorrow. 12:3 it's going to be interesting to in the running order tomorrow. 19:3 it's going to be interesting to see how that actually pans out. obviously, for disclosure we do not have television cameras inside every home in the uk so we do not know how many people are actually going to do it whether they are sitting on their sofas, they decide suddenly they will make that homage of the cane. maybe it's going to be in garden party events where people are feeling more favourably inclined to the monarchy anyway, that might be where you get it. let's see how that actually works. somebody i'm with can tell us more about that, zaki cooper he is a former assistant press secretary to the queen. there

is nothing in the press secretary's of is that you can do about the weather, you don't have a direct line to the weather gods but i bet it's in you wish you could control? the one thing we can't control is a weather_ the one thing we can't control is a weather which can be frustrated. obviously — weather which can be frustrated. obviously most royal celebrations take place between may and september historically and primarily because of climate — historically and primarily because of climate reasons. take historically and primarily because of climate reasons.— historically and primarily because of climate reasons. take us inside the communications _ of climate reasons. take us inside the communications department l of climate reasons. take us inside | the communications department of buckingham palace before a big state event like this one. what is happening, what are they looking for, what are they responding to? it is an incredibly charged and busy period~ _ is an incredibly charged and busy period~ it — is an incredibly charged and busy period. it is not the last few days, it has_ period. it is not the last few days, it has been— period. it is not the last few days, it has been months and months of meticulous — it has been months and months of meticulous planning. the last palace would _ meticulous planning. the last palace would have _ meticulous planning. the last palace would have noticed that last september after the death of her majesty— september after the death of her majesty the queen that we would have a coronation several months' time so they have _ a coronation several months' time so they have had time to think and plan it ltut— they have had time to think and plan it but clearly a lot of hard work. it is _ it but clearly a lot of hard work. it is exhilarating but is also exhausting. | it is exhilarating but is also exhausting.— it is exhilarating but is also exhaustina. ., it is exhilarating but is also exhaustina. :, , ., exhausting. i wonder whether you think that we _ exhausting. i wonder whether you think that we saw _ exhausting. i wonder whether you think that we saw kate _ exhausting. i wonder whether you think that we saw kate and - exhausting. i wonder whether you | think that we saw kate and william sa taking the cheap, going to the

pub. we saw the king, the prince and princess of wales down at the mall today. there is a messaging shift thatis today. there is a messaging shift that is taking place in the palace as we watch this coronation unsolved counts unfold? the as we watch this coronation unsolved counts unfold?— counts unfold? the connection between the — counts unfold? the connection between the royal— counts unfold? the connection between the royal family - counts unfold? the connection between the royal family and | counts unfold? the connection i between the royal family and the people _ between the royal family and the people. the service at the abbey is a three _ people. the service at the abbey is a three triangle between god, the people _ a three triangle between god, the people and the king but i think this is all about— people and the king but i think this is all about the cane's relationship to the _ is all about the cane's relationship to the people, we have got to know him over— to the people, we have got to know him over 50 — to the people, we have got to know him over 50 years as a working royal — him over 50 years as a working royal he _ him over 50 years as a working royal. he is a familiar figure to all of— royal. he is a familiar figure to all of us — royal. he is a familiar figure to all of us that this is about the relationship between, moving to a new stage — relationship between, moving to a new stage without being accustomed to a new _ new stage without being accustomed to a new king after 70 years queen. ithink— to a new king after 70 years queen. i think people don't obsess over opinion— i think people don't obsess over opinion polls. i think politicians more _ opinion polls. i think politicians more stress over opinion polls, they

are more _ more stress over opinion polls, they are more the — more stress over opinion polls, they are more the background. it is more important _ are more the background. it is more important for the royal family to carry— important for the royal family to carry public opinion with them. i weigh— carry public opinion with them. i weigh the — carry public opinion with them. i weigh the comments by prince philip in l969— weigh the comments by prince philip in 1969 when he spoke about the in1969 when he spoke about the royal— in 1969 when he spoke about the royal monarchy existed because of the people, they have to keep their relationship with the people so it is important but it is about getting on with— is important but it is about getting on with the job to enhance a connection with the people through the royal— connection with the people through the royal family present charitable work~ _ the royal family present charitable work. ., ., ., g , work. you also write for the jewish chronicle and _ work. you also write for the jewish chronicle and jewish _ work. you also write for the jewish chronicle and jewish news. - work. you also write for the jewish chronicle and jewish news. you i work. you also write for the jewish i chronicle and jewish news. you have written on the royal family, we are going to see a different type of service tomorrow obviously from 1953 in terms of inclusivity of other faiths. how far does that go in this king's effort to reach out to a more religiously diverse country? i king's effort to reach out to a more religiously diverse country?- religiously diverse country? i think it has been — religiously diverse country? i think it has been really _ religiously diverse country? i think it has been really well— religiously diverse country? i think it has been really well done. i religiously diverse country? i think it has been really well done. we . religiously diverse country? i think. it has been really well done. we are very different country from the country — very different country from the country of _ very different country from the country of 1953. when we were very much _ country of 1953. when we were very much homogenous society. 70 years later, _ much homogenous society. 70 years later, we _ much homogenous society. 70 years later, we are — much homogenous society. 70 years later, we are much more diverse.

there _ later, we are much more diverse. there are — later, we are much more diverse. there are never going to minority religions. — there are never going to minority religions, they are growing fast, muslims, — religions, they are growing fast, muslims, sikhs, buddhists communities all grew in the last census — communities all grew in the last census it — communities all grew in the last census. it is very important to make a part— census. it is very important to make a part of— census. it is very important to make a part of thing in the context of the church— a part of thing in the context of the church of england service. it is at its _ the church of england service. it is at its heart — the church of england service. it is at its heart is an anglican service but including and acknowledging the fact that _ but including and acknowledging the fact that we live in a very religiously diverse country. there kin . religiously diverse country. there king himself _ religiously diverse country. there king himself has _ religiously diverse country. there king himself has said _ religiously diverse country. there king himself has said that - religiously diverse country. there king himself has said that he i religiously diverse country. there | king himself has said that he sees himself of the defender is notjust the faith but of faiths. is that something that the british public, those who are not christian, you may not even be believers, do you think they feel that, they believe it, is a different from the way they saw the queen? i a different from the way they saw the queen?— the queen? i think the king sees himself as _ the queen? i think the king sees himself as defender _ the queen? i think the king sees himself as defender of _ the queen? i think the king sees himself as defender of and i himself as defender of and appreciating the value that communities bring to society. the can contribution they make to charity— can contribution they make to charity work, voluntary work. we had the bill— charity work, voluntary work. we had the bill to— charity work, voluntary work. we had the bill to help out on monday. i

think— the bill to help out on monday. i think what— the bill to help out on monday. i think what the king sees is that their— think what the king sees is that their communities can bring tremendous value across addressing a whole _ tremendous value across addressing a whole range of cysts social problems. even as work on climate change _ problems. even as work on climate change when he tries to involve the faith communities. i don't think it's exclusive. the king acknowledges not everybody is religious, we live in a very diverse country _ religious, we live in a very diverse count . :, ~ religious, we live in a very diverse count . ., ,, ,., religious, we live in a very diverse count . . ~' ,. , religious, we live in a very diverse count . ., ,, , . ., country. thank you very much for 'oinin: country. thank you very much for joining us- _ country. thank you very much for joining us. interesting _ country. thank you very much for joining us. interesting to - country. thank you very much for joining us. interesting to hear- joining us. interesting to hear about the differences between the service and what is going on in the press service. spare a little thought for the members of the press team because they are working nonstop. you can see the cars going along the mall, streaming for all those final preparations. that reception tonight at buckingham palace. i don't know if that is what all the sleep while driving for. it looks like their rehearsal rivers going into the garden party. they

have for the moment got glorious weather for it so let's hope that holds for the outside event. people including some of the members of the european royalfamilies including some of the members of the european royal families who will be going to the garden party ahead of attending the coronation. a big deal to be invited to this coronation because it is a big step down event. so, we were talking about that religious service and i want to talk to a very important guest. the bishop of durham, whojoins me here. i hear that this morning that you were right behind us in the abbey doing those final rehearsals with the king? doing those final rehearsals with the kina ? , ., doing those final rehearsals with the kinu? , . , ., the king? yes, the final hassles for the king? yes, the final hassles for the kina the king? yes, the final hassles for the king and _ the king? yes, the final hassles for the king and the _ the king? yes, the final hassles for the king and the queen. _ the king? yes, the final hassles for the king and the queen. what i the king and the queen. what actually happens _ the king and the queen. what actually happens in _ the king and the queen. what actually happens in the - the king and the queen. what actually happens in the final. actually happens in the final rehearsals? it actually happens in the final rehearsals?— actually happens in the final rehearsals? . , ., , ., rehearsals? it means rehearsing all

the moves and _ rehearsals? it means rehearsing all the moves and making _ rehearsals? it means rehearsing all the moves and making sure - rehearsals? it means rehearsing all the moves and making sure we i rehearsals? it means rehearsing all. the moves and making sure we know well going _ the moves and making sure we know well going. where all the jewels and the crown _ well going. where all the jewels and the crown. it is myself and the bishop — the crown. it is myself and the bishop of— the crown. it is myself and the bishop of wales who tomorrow morning. — bishop of wales who tomorrow morning, we greet them at the gates, we escort— morning, we greet them at the gates, we escort them in so we walking up aisle, _ we escort them in so we walking up aisle, walking back down. we practice — aisle, walking back down. we practice everything. i�*m aisle, walking back down. we practice everything. i'm going to ask ou practice everything. i'm going to ask you more — practice everything. i'm going to ask you more about _ practice everything. i'm going to ask you more about your - practice everything. i'm going to ask you more about your role i ask you more about your role tomorrow. how did they seem, do they seem nervous?— seem nervous? they were very relaxed. seem nervous? they were very relaxed- very _ seem nervous? they were very relaxed. very pleased - seem nervous? they were very relaxed. very pleased to i seem nervous? they were very relaxed. very pleased to have l seem nervous? they were very i relaxed. very pleased to have the opportunity to do another, it's not the first— opportunity to do another, it's not the first rehearsal we've had. we've had a _ the first rehearsal we've had. we've had a couple of rehearsals with them at buckingham palace and three days this week— at buckingham palace and three days this week where them and then we had not have _ this week where them and then we had not have a _ this week where them and then we had not have a housing without them with people _ not have a housing without them with people standing in their roles. but the people standing in their roles. they didn't people standing in their roles. pm they didn't seem nervous to you? know, they sent seemed fine. you are

bishop assistant. _ know, they sent seemed fine. you are bishop assistant. explain _ know, they sent seemed fine. you are bishop assistant. explain what - know, they sent seemed fine. you are bishop assistant. explain what that i bishop assistant. explain what that role is? for bishop assistant. explain what that role is? ., : , ., bishop assistant. explain what that role is? ., m ., , ., role is? for the bishop of durham it noes role is? for the bishop of durham it aoes at role is? for the bishop of durham it goes at least _ role is? for the bishop of durham it goes at least as _ role is? for the bishop of durham it goes at least as far _ role is? for the bishop of durham it goes at least as far back _ role is? for the bishop of durham it goes at least as far back as - role is? for the bishop of durham it goes at least as far back as richard | goes at least as far back as richard the first _ goes at least as far back as richard the first. but it goes earlier than that but— the first. but it goes earlier than that but it's been consistently sensed — that but it's been consistently sensed which the first. it means that we — sensed which the first. it means that we are the two bishops who escort— that we are the two bishops who escort the — that we are the two bishops who escort the cane everywhere to ensure that he _ escort the cane everywhere to ensure that he is — escort the cane everywhere to ensure that he is on— escort the cane everywhere to ensure that he is on the right place at the film that he is on the right place at the right time — that he is on the right place at the right time. there are moments where the robes _ right time. there are moments where the robes come off and new robes go on so _ the robes come off and new robes go on so it— the robes come off and new robes go on so it is— the robes come off and new robes go on so it is our— the robes come off and new robes go on so it is our responsibility to make — on so it is our responsibility to make sure _ on so it is our responsibility to make sure that they get on and off. are you _ make sure that they get on and off. are you the — make sure that they get on and off. are you the person taking arrives on and off? we assessed, the groom of the robes he was responsible for that overall. sign that there is one moment by the prince of wales is very once all placing a garment on the king. we make sure he is in the

right place on the right time. what's the significance of all the different robes. why have four different robes. why have four different changes of robes? the state robe _ different changes of robes? the state robe in _ different changes of robes? the state robe in and the state robe out are largely. — state robe in and the state robe out are largely, they are ceremonial for the king _ are largely, they are ceremonial for the king. forthe anointing, the king _ the king. forthe anointing, the king takes— the king. forthe anointing, the king takes all his robes of so that the archbishop of canterbury is able to anoint— the archbishop of canterbury is able to anoint him on his hands, on his head _ to anoint him on his hands, on his head and — to anoint him on his hands, on his head and on— to anoint him on his hands, on his head and on his first. he is then robes _ head and on his first. he is then robes and — head and on his first. he is then robes and a _ head and on his first. he is then robes and a very simple white tunic and a _ robes and a very simple white tunic and a very— robes and a very simple white tunic and a very splendid goal tunic although— and a very splendid goal tunic although it is very simple in that sense _ although it is very simple in that sense and — although it is very simple in that sense and his vested with a stall.

there _ sense and his vested with a stall. there is— sense and his vested with a stall. there is something here about recognising that he is the anointed kin- recognising that he is the anointed king and _ recognising that he is the anointed king and this is god's corners life. he has— king and this is god's corners life. he has a _ king and this is god's corners life. he has a deep sense as his deeper mother— he has a deep sense as his deeper mother had — he has a deep sense as his deeper mother had this sense, this is god's calling _ mother had this sense, this is god's callinu. :, �* , mother had this sense, this is god's callinu. :, v , mother had this sense, this is god's callinu. . h , , mother had this sense, this is god's callin. , ., ., ., calling. that's why this coronation, other european _ calling. that's why this coronation, other european countries - calling. that's why this coronation, other european countries do i calling. that's why this coronation, other european countries do not i calling. that's why this coronation, i other european countries do not have any more, are so important to somebody who is not only the king queen of the nation but also the leader of the church of england. it is the religious ceremony, it is mainly an anglican, church of england ceremony? the mainly an anglican, church of england ceremony? mainly an anglican, church of encland ceremon ? ., . ., , england ceremony? the whole ceremony is secificall england ceremony? the whole ceremony is specifically within _ england ceremony? the whole ceremony is specifically within a _ england ceremony? the whole ceremony is specifically within a church _ england ceremony? the whole ceremony is specifically within a church of- is specifically within a church of england — is specifically within a church of england holy communion service. towards _ england holy communion service. towards the end of the service, the kin- towards the end of the service, the king and _ towards the end of the service, the king and the queen receive holy communion. it is hugely significant. it is communion. it is hugely significant. it is one _ communion. it is hugely significant. it is one of— communion. it is hugely significant. it is one of those things that is

lost on — it is one of those things that is lost on us _ it is one of those things that is lost on us as a nation most of the time, _ lost on us as a nation most of the time quite — lost on us as a nation most of the time, quite tile tightly tied the church— time, quite tile tightly tied the church of— time, quite tile tightly tied the church of england and the monarchy and the _ church of england and the monarchy and the constitution are together. do you _ and the constitution are together. do you think the pub british public will be reminded of that tomorrow, even surprise little by what they see tomorrow? i even surprise little by what they see tomorrow?— even surprise little by what they see tomorrow? ,, , .. , see tomorrow? i think because there hasn't been — see tomorrow? i think because there hasn't been a — see tomorrow? i think because there hasn't been a coronation _ see tomorrow? i think because there hasn't been a coronation for - see tomorrow? i think because there hasn't been a coronation for 70 i hasn't been a coronation for 70 years— hasn't been a coronation for 70 years that _ hasn't been a coronation for 70 years that there was no other event like it— years that there was no other event like it that — years that there was no other event like it that a — years that there was no other event like it that a message out so yes, i think— like it that a message out so yes, i think a _ like it that a message out so yes, i think a lot — like it that a message out so yes, i think a lot of— like it that a message out so yes, i think a lot of people will be surprised. i hope that they will find the — surprised. i hope that they will find the death and significance of it -- _ find the death and significance of it -- depth— find the death and significance of it —— depth as they watch and the whole _ it —— depth as they watch and the whole thing speaks about the calling to serve _ whole thing speaks about the calling to serve. the whole service begins, this is— to serve. the whole service begins, this is new. — to serve. the whole service begins, this is new, the chorister coming in and introducing himself on the heart of the _ and introducing himself on the heart of the children of the nation to the kin- of the children of the nation to the king and _ of the children of the nation to the king and the king's responses that i have come — king and the king's responses that i have come to serve the nation in serving _ have come to serve the nation in serving the — have come to serve the nation in serving the king of kings. is

have come to serve the nation in serving the king of kings. is it serving the king of kings. is it ossible serving the king of kings. is it possible with _ serving the king of kings. is it possible with so _ serving the king of kings. 13 it possible with so much preparation in the world's guys in the event for it to retain for the king and perhaps also for you, a sense of independence spirituality. what you have a moment in your brain to be clear to think of that, thinking oh my goodness i hope he doesn't trip and the crown doesn't fall off! xi map inevitably, we will have a thoughts. map inevitably, we will have a thouuhts. ., ., , thoughts. one of the moments we rehearse is — thoughts. one of the moments we rehearse is that _ thoughts. one of the moments we rehearse is that on _ thoughts. one of the moments we rehearse is that on the _ thoughts. one of the moments we rehearse is that on the day - thoughts. one of the moments we rehearse is that on the day you i thoughts. one of the moments we i rehearse is that on the day you know exactly _ rehearse is that on the day you know exactly what you are doing. so you can actually — exactly what you are doing. so you can actually focus on the significance of what is happening. and of— significance of what is happening. and of course, the one piece of the public— and of course, the one piece of the public will— and of course, the one piece of the public will still not see is the anointing. i think for the cane, that— anointing. i think for the cane, that moment which will be very private — that moment which will be very private and personal, that will be the time — private and personal, that will be the time when he knows that he is with his _ the time when he knows that he is with his god and that god is anointing him for the task ahead.

thank— anointing him for the task ahead. thank you — anointing him for the task ahead. thank you very much. so interesting to hear. hello, there. a full forecast for the all—important weekend coming up injust a moment. for today, it is a day of sunshine and showers and the showers are really widespread, so most of you will see a downpour or two at some point this afternoon. the radar picture shows where the showers have been. the heaviest and the ones that have been thundery into the early afternoon have been mostly across east anglia, lots of shower clouds and on the satellite picture, but down towards the south—west is this area of cloud with the weather fronts merging together over the next 2a hours. that will bring outbreaks of rain to threaten the coronation, as we'll see in just a moment.

showery conditions today and that first batch of thunderstorms across east anglia tending to clear away, but i think there's going to be another batch working into south—west england and wales before spreading on to the midlands and central southern england. where the may sunshine pops out, 16 to 18 degrees should feel pleasantly warm. still quite cool though for the north—east of scotland. during this evening showers drift northwards. they will tend to ease later in the night, but by the end of the night we start to see a band of rain approach the south—west of england. with that, temperatures will actually be rising towards the end of the night. it will be quite mild, 11 or 12 degrees as we start saturday. it is these weather fronts on saturday that will drive northwards and eastwards that bring the main threat of rain. for the coronation, there will be a lot of cloud around, i think some outbreaks of mostly light rain and drizzle, some damp weather. there could be one or two heavier bursts mixed in at times, as well. away from that, the heaviest rain will be across wales and south—west england. the wet weather slowly pushing northwards through the day. for scotland and northern ireland it is a different picture. broadly speaking, it's another day of sunshine and heavy showers. still quite cool in aberdeen, but otherwise our temperatures for most between 15 and 17 degrees.

for sunday, it's a day of showers again. the showers are mostly going to be across scotland and eastern areas of england. later in the day we'll start to see a band of rain approach northern ireland. that could turn quite heavy as we head towards the evening time. if we do see some brighter spells, 20 degrees celsius possible across east anglia and south—east england. then, for monday, showers are going to be widespread. they will turn heavy with some hail and some thunder mixed in. so it is an unsettled looking weather pattern, with outbreaks of rain around on saturday and then showers turning increasingly heavy, with an increasing threat of thunderstorms. watchers like to look at and the voters would like to see.

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