this is bbc news, live from london, with continuing coverage of the coronation of their majesties king charles and queen camilla. despite the rain, huge crowds have come to buckingham palace to greet the royal party. earlier, the king had the imperial state crown placed on his head by the archbishop of canterbury at westminster abbey. god save the king. trumpet fanfare camilla was the first queen consort to be crowned since the late queen elizabeth,

the queen mother, in 1937. a personal moment between king and heir — william wishes his father good luck with a kiss. i, william, prince of wales, pledge my loyalty to you and faith and truth i will bear unto you, as your liege man of life and limb. so help me god. the royal couple left the abbey to go back to the palace wearing the full coronation regalia. and the weather causes a scaled down fly—past, but the red arrows delight the crowds.

welcome to buckingham palace. the heavens opened and mercifully we had the fly—past and a waiver from the royal rock before the rain came. there's been no event like it in 70 years. at london's westminster abbey king charles iii has been crowned in a ceremony rich with music and symbolism. the king took an oath promising to do the duties of the monarch. his queen, camilla, was also crowned in a service which included representatives from a range of faiths across the uk and the commonwealth. the coronation was watched by world leaders and celebrities inside the abbey — and by millions around the world. us first ladyjill biden was there, but president biden is not in the uk. french president emmanuel macron and first lady of ukraine olena zelenska were also in the abbey, as were prime minister rishi sunak and leaders of the commonwealth countries. in the most sacred part of the service, the king was shielded from public view by screens, while choristers sang handel's zadok the priest, performed at every coronation

since the early 18th century. prince william also made a pledge of loyalty to king charles, before members of the congregation were invited to offer their own support. thousands of people lined the streets to see the king and queen as they returned to buckingham palace in the gold state coach first used in 1831. the flag—waving crowd cheered as the coach drawn by eight horses drove by. they were accompanied by a procession made up of 4,000 military personnel marching in step. a short while afterwards the new king and queen appeared on the balcony of buckingham palace with other members of the royal family although the king's brother the duke of york — prince andrew — and his son the duke of sussex — prince harry — were not there. the watching royals were treated to a fly past over the palace which included the iconic red arrows. a huge security operation is in place for the event. several hundred anti—monarchy protestors in trafalgar square jeered during the service,

as it was relayed to crowds. an anti—monarchy group said six of their members had been arrested. joining me now is the royal historian and biographer, robert lacey. we have been watching it together and i think if you were to distill the several hours of rich pageantry we have just watched you could probably start with the simple oath the king made right at the beginning of the ceremony. i come here, he said, not to be served but to serve. yes, clearly king charles�*s theme that he is articulating with such feeling. for me it was the expression of feeling that was new in the service. the queen did her duty brilliantly but in some ways elizabeth ii, there was always something rather sinks like about

her. i think people will have identified more with king charles, to see him worried. he seemed agonised, the only person not enjoying what was going on. he seemed to have the cares of the nation on his shoulders. as those clothes were put on him, he became more and more the king, more and more and more the king, more and more start—up. he went out to the crowds in the grand old style. more start-up. he went out to the crowds in the grand old style. there was a sense — crowds in the grand old style. there was a sense of— crowds in the grand old style. there was a sense of destiny _ crowds in the grand old style. there was a sense of destiny about - crowds in the grand old style. there was a sense of destiny about it. - crowds in the grand old style. there was a sense of destiny about it. he has waited his entire life for this moment. do you think until those robes were put on he was still coming to terms with that? fix, 1th robes were put on he was still coming to terms with that? a lot of eo - le coming to terms with that? a lot of --eole sa coming to terms with that? a lot of peeple say he _ coming to terms with that? a lot of peeple say he has _ coming to terms with that? a lot of people say he has been _ coming to terms with that? a lot of people say he has been king - coming to terms with that? a lot of people say he has been king for - coming to terms with that? a lot of people say he has been king for a l people say he has been king for a few months and this ceremony is a bit like an american inauguration, i suppose. we mightjust bear in mind that since the last correlation there have been 13 or 1a american

presidential inauguration is, all costing a fewjohn fortune. it's not cheap at only comes along every generation or so. yes, now he is fully the king and i suppose the crowning peace is appearing on the balcony and the crowds flocking here despite the rain. to balcony and the crowds flocking here despite the rain.— despite the rain. to tens of thousands _ despite the rain. to tens of thousands of _ despite the rain. to tens of thousands of people - despite the rain. to tens of| thousands of people around despite the rain. to tens of- thousands of people around the victoria memorial with thousands more in the mall. the archbishop said it would be a joyful and historic occasion and it proved so despite the weather and torrential rain we've had. find despite the weather and torrential rain we've had.— despite the weather and torrential rain we've had. �* ., , . rain we've had. and so many children will have watched _ rain we've had. and so many children will have watched it. _ rain we've had. and so many children will have watched it. they _ rain we've had. and so many children will have watched it. they have - will have watched it. they have heard about it at school. those are symbols. the orb is such an easy simple to understand. when it comes to one sceptre or another... but seeing the 0rb in the golden coach, it's rather like crown on wheels so

these visual elements bring it home to people. yes, i think we know this man and his wife better than we did before. it’s man and his wife better than we did before. �* , , , ., man and his wife better than we did before. 3 , i. , before. it's interesting you use the word visual. _ before. it's interesting you use the word visual, we _ before. it's interesting you use the word visual, we made _ before. it's interesting you use the word visual, we made the - before. it's interesting you use the word visual, we made the point - word visual, we made the point earlier in the week we are a visual society these days, responding to images. there is so much mystique to the coronation, regalia we only see in the tower of london, what does it mean and what is the relevance? but as you say, the 0rb is the realm in his hand and that's the moment when you realise he is king.— you realise he is king. exactly. and there are monarchies _ you realise he is king. exactly. and there are monarchies all _ you realise he is king. exactly. and there are monarchies all over- there are monarchies all over europe, people say the monarchy is finished but countries that many people would say are the most intelligent, sweden, denmark, they have monarchies but they don't have coronations. they have a very simple oath taking. that's their style and this is ours. it's the sort of thing that someone said we over do so

well. . , . that someone said we over do so well. ., , ., ., . ., well. there was a touching moment in the service- — well. there was a touching moment in the service. there _ well. there was a touching moment in the service. there has _ well. there was a touching moment in the service. there has been _ well. there was a touching moment in the service. there has been a - well. there was a touching moment in the service. there has been a lot - the service. there has been a lot written about the duke of sussex and the relationship with his father but at the moment when prince william swore his allegiance to the new king there was a moment when he touched there was a moment when he touched the crown and kissed his father's cheek and something was whispered between them, such that the king said thank you and there was a bond between the king and air but also father and son. i between the king and air but also father and son.— father and son. i think if one is drawin: father and son. i think if one is drawing positives _ father and son. i think if one is drawing positives from - father and son. i think if one is drawing positives from the - drawing positives from the unhappiness in the family, it's that it has brought william and charles, if one may use their names in that familiar way, together. it had also meant the balcony finally makes sense. people used to say, who are the cousins and uncles and aunties, what are they doing there? now the rule is, working members of the royal family. every royal you see there is paid with taxpayers money to do the job that royals do, encouraging all sorts of

philanthropic aspects of our society. everyone we saw up there is a working royal fulfilling a job. society. everyone we saw up there is a working royalfulfilling a job. we have heard about republicans getting arrested today and protesting. i think that's rather unfair of them. labour people don't go there to the conservative conservative party conference and spoil it. we are a free country but i think today is a day to celebrate the monarchy. clearly people have strong feelings about the right to protest and if nothing else we are a democracy and the right to protest is part of that. we will come back to that because i want to talk about what was on the balcony, a slimmed down royalty. people have said this is a king in a hurry and he understands the royal family has to modernise and adapt. we saw that with elements of the service and ceremony today but also saw it up there on the balcony. but also saw it up there on the balcon . , , ., . balcony. every member of the royal famil u- balcony. every member of the royal family un there _ balcony. every member of the royal family up there with _ balcony. every member of the royal family up there with their— balcony. every member of the royal family up there with their children l family up there with their children gets paid taxpayers money. most

taxpayers pay about 1.50 or so. the monarchy cost around 80 million per year and there are around 40,50 million taxpayers, it costs each of us 1.50 or so. million taxpayers, it costs each of us 1.50 orso. i million taxpayers, it costs each of us 1.50 or so. i think many of us feel we got value for that today. many of them head up many charities. 0ne many of them head up many charities. one of the reasons the british philanthropic section is so strong here compared to other countries in europe is because the royals are behind it with their particular magic. today was all about that magic. today was all about that magic as well.— magic. today was all about that magic as well. let's talk about the homa . e magic as well. let's talk about the homage of — magic as well. let's talk about the homage of the _ magic as well. let's talk about the homage of the people. _ magic as well. let's talk about the homage of the people. there - magic as well. let's talk about the homage of the people. there hasl magic as well. let's talk about the - homage of the people. there has been a lot of controversy about that in the past few days. our good friend jonathan dimbleby said it's a storm in a teacup and the king will find it quite bizarre that people were swearing fealty to him. they have obviously toned it down. what did you make of that? did it hit the right note? i

you make of that? did it hit the right note?— right note? i think originally it hit the wrong _ right note? i think originally it hit the wrong note. _ right note? i think originally it hit the wrong note. people . right note? i think originally it | hit the wrong note. people feel todayis hit the wrong note. people feel today is about the king pledging to serve us. frankly we are a democracy. whenever the king goes to visit parliament, let's not forget, the dog gets slammed in their face. ultimately they are there to do the will of the people so it was right to emphasise the king's pledge to us and to those who want to pledge back could do that as well. lets and to those who want to pledge back could do that as well.— could do that as well. lets mention the procession _ could do that as well. lets mention the procession quickly, _ could do that as well. lets mention the procession quickly, truly - the procession quickly, truly extraordinary with 4000 marching in it. the ability to step off at exactly the right precise moment and stay in step throughout the entirety of the route is something that the brits do very well.— brits do very well. they do. it's more than _ brits do very well. they do. it's more than a — brits do very well. they do. it's more than a mile _ brits do very well. they do. it's more than a mile long - brits do very well. they do. it's more than a mile long and - brits do very well. they do. it's more than a mile long and you | brits do very well. they do. it's - more than a mile long and you saw them at one end, charles was out ready to start, and then by magic

they started in the mall and came all the way down. the armed forces are about service as well and that's why the royal family is closely associated with them.- why the royal family is closely associated with them. there was a ma . ical associated with them. there was a magical moment _ associated with them. there was a magical moment with _ associated with them. there was a magical moment with the - associated with them. there was a magical moment with the princessj magical moment with the princess royal, who seems to disappear through a side door but then came out with a goal stick too much with the band, she is head of the blues and royals. the band, she is head of the blues and royals-— the band, she is head of the blues androals. . and royals. princess anne has always made her own — and royals. princess anne has always made her own special— and royals. princess anne has always made her own special contribution - and royals. princess anne has always made her own special contribution to | made her own special contribution to the monarchy, the hardest working royal for so many years. the monarchy, the hardest working royalfor so many years. she the monarchy, the hardest working royal for so many years. she was special today again. we royal for so many years. she was special today again.— special today again. we will talk -len special today again. we will talk plenty more _ special today again. we will talk plenty more this _ special today again. we will talk plenty more this afternoon, - special today again. we will talk i plenty more this afternoon, thank you for being with us, robert. there is a lot to get through in the course of a two—hour ceremony but our royal editor nicholas witchell has been pulling it together. london.

the 6th of may 2023, coronation day. in an abbey at westminster where these things have been done for nearly a thousand years, a congregation to represent the britain of today had come together with honoured guests from the wider world. the flags of the realms of the 14 other nations of which the british monarch is also head of state, were born in procession. borne in procession. the weather, as predicted, left a lot to be desired. the king and the queen consort left buckingham palace in steady rain. at the abbey, the king's family were taking their places.

the duke of sussex making a brief visit to london without his wife and the duke of york making a brief appearance in public, wearing the robes of a knight of the garter. dressed in his robes of state... the king entered the abbey for his crowning to hubert parry�*s anthem, i was glad. the prince and princess of wales took their places with princess charlotte and five—year—old prince louis. the king was greeted

to his coronation by a chorister. your majesty, as children of the kingdom of god we welcome you in the name of the king of kings. in his name and after his example, i come not to be served but to serve. will you solemnly- promise and swear... the king swore the traditional coronation 0ath to govern the peoples of the united kingdom and his other realms and territories according to their laws. i solemnly promise so to do. there was a special composition from the ascension choir. and then the most sacred moments of the service... # zadok the priest #. the anointing of the monarch

for which the king was divested of his robe and jacket and moved to the coronation chair which had been screened from view to be anointed with holy oil. the king knelt before the altar before being dressed in robes of gold to receive the coronation regalia. the orbs, sceptres and other items, some of which were presented by representatives of other faiths. and then the moment of the king's crowning. god save the king! god save the king.

the prince of wales pledged his loyalty. god save the king! god save king charles. the family watched. harry in the third row from the front. i now invite those who wish to offer their support to do so. the congregation in the abbey recited the homage of the people. i swear that i will pay true allegiance to your majesty and to your heirs and successors according to law. so help me god. and then the queen was crowned, the culmination of the transformation of the former camilla parker—bowles. the coronation was over, king charles and queen camilla

made their way out of westminster abbey. waiting in the rain, the gold state coach. and the parade of more than 4000 members of the armed services which stepped off for buckingham palace. prince george had rejoined his brother and sister after his pageboy duties, the family making their way to the palace past the waiting crowds. and onto the palace balcony for the first time as king came charles iii with queen camilla, joined by the pages and working members of the royal family. through the clouds came the red arrows in a curtailed coronation fly—past. finally, on the balcony, it was just the king and queen. charles, now a crowned monarch, committed to serve his people.

nicholas witchell, bbc news. coming out onto the balcony twice, much to the pleasure of the crowds behind us. joining me now is the canadian high commissioner to the uk, ralph goodale who has just come here straight from the service. how was it? spectacular, a fascinating _ how was it? spectacular, a fascinating connection - how was it? spectacular, a - fascinating connection between history and tradition. and obviously i think a monarch and monarchy trying to modernise and prepare itself for the 21st—century. it was a great privilege to be part of it. you were part of 2200. did you have a good view?— a good view? yes, the high commissioners, _ a good view? yes, the high commissioners, prime - a good view? yes, the high - commissioners, prime ministers and governors generalfrom commissioners, prime ministers and governors general from the 14 countries that are realms of his majesty were positioned just to the right of the area where the thrones were, directly behind the royal

family. it was a pretty good vantage point. i family. it was a pretty good vantage oint. ~' ., family. it was a pretty good vantage oint. ~ ., ,, . family. it was a pretty good vantage oint. ~ ., ., ., point. i know you have attended some ofthe point. i know you have attended some of the events — point. i know you have attended some of the events this _ point. i know you have attended some of the events this week _ point. i know you have attended some of the events this week that _ point. i know you have attended some of the events this week that the - of the events this week that the king has been present at. have you had the opportunity to talk to him? not this week in any detail. but he did have an extremely important meeting from canada's point of view. 0n meeting from canada's point of view. on thursday afternoon he provided an audience for our governor—general with the three elected national aboriginal leaders, the indigenous leaders from canada. indigenous reconciliation is an extremely important canadian issue and one in which his majesty takes a personal interest. it is significant on the eve of his coronation that he would provide an opportunity for the indigenous leadership of canada to meet with him personally to talk about the way forward and to open a dialogue about reconciliation. canada has such a presence here today, notjust in the flags carried

ljy today, notjust in the flags carried by the king's guard, the commonwealth flags, but also represented by the mounties. tell me about the horses. if i'm right, the horses have been gifted by canada to the royal family.— the royal family. there was a long tradition of— the royal family. there was a long tradition of starting _ the royal family. there was a long tradition of starting with _ the royal family. there was a long tradition of starting with her- the royal family. there was a long tradition of starting with her late i tradition of starting with her late majesty back in the 1970s where the rcmp musical ride would gift a horse to the royal stables and her majesty would then gift a horse back. they have been doing this horse trading for 50 years. as it turns out, the five horses here today were the five most recent gifts from the rcmp to her late majesty. and the fifth one was actually gifted to king charles just a week ago yesterday. it's a brand—new one and hopefully he will be riding that horse. brand-new one and hopefully he will be riding that horse.— be riding that horse. there is a whiser be riding that horse. there is a whisper he _ be riding that horse. there is a whisper he might _ be riding that horse. there is a whisper he might well- be riding that horse. there is a whisper he might well ride - be riding that horse. there is a

whisper he might well ride it i be riding that horse. there is a | whisper he might well ride it to be riding that horse. there is a - whisper he might well ride it to the king's birthday. we whisper he might well ride it to the king's birthday-— king's birthday. we will see. he is a treat king's birthday. we will see. he is a great horseman _ king's birthday. we will see. he is a great horseman and _ king's birthday. we will see. he is a great horseman and he - king's birthday. we will see. he is a great horseman and he knows i king's birthday. we will see. he is i a great horseman and he knows how king's birthday. we will see. he is - a great horseman and he knows how to ride and how to handle the animals. noble is the name of the horse, and noble is the name of the horse, and noble is the name of the horse, and noble is a remarkable and very steady and stable mare, not easily spooked. we steady and stable mare, not easily sooked. ~ ., ~ steady and stable mare, not easily sooked. ~ ., ,, .,, spooked. we were talking with robert about the modernising _ spooked. we were talking with robert about the modernising within - spooked. we were talking with robert about the modernising within the - about the modernising within the royal family. of course there are questions about the king's role in the commonwealth and as head of state in the commonwealth realm countries, of which canada is one. what do you think they will have made off today and what message do you carry home about the place of the king as head of state? i you carry home about the place of the king as head of state?- the king as head of state? i think it is only natural _ the king as head of state? i think it is only natural after _ the king as head of state? i think it is only natural after the - it is only natural after the previous monarch had been there so many years, no one virtually knows any other monarch but queen elizabeth. she was much respected

and much loved. and suddenly she's gone and replaced by someone new. i think in that context it's only natural that people will debate the role of the monarchy, the constitutional issues that are involved, the personalities that are involved. but it also provides an opportunity for some very important civic information and education about how a democratic constitutional monarchy works and why it is important to have separation between head of government, where all the political action is, and head of state. the head of state is impartial, is nonpolitical, it represents the unity of the country and the values that pull people together, representing continuity and stability. those things are extremely important in governance. it's nothing to do with politics. but when you are head of state and its also the head of government, it becomes a political role. there is

value in having the two separated and the debate, it's natural to take place, and it will give people the opportunity to learn more about what a constitutional monarchy does and how it functions and why it provides the success and stability that it does. . ., , , ., ., the success and stability that it does. , , ., ., . does. our countries share a rich history and _ does. our countries share a rich history and i _ does. our countries share a rich history and i know _ does. our countries share a rich history and i know the - does. our countries share a rich history and i know the royal- does. our countries share a rich . history and i know the royal family have been regular visitors to canada and will be in the near future. the king, since the accession, has not been. what do we know about a forthcoming visit? the been. what do we know about a forthcoming visit?— been. what do we know about a forthcoming visit? the powers that be on both sides _ forthcoming visit? the powers that be on both sides are _ forthcoming visit? the powers that be on both sides are looking - forthcoming visit? the powers that be on both sides are looking at - be on both sides are looking at possible dates. the king when he was prince of wales was in canada about a year ago as part of the platinum jubilee celebrations but they have not had the opportunity to visit in his new role and capacity. i think everybody is anxious to see that visit take place as soon as it can be physically arranged in the proper way and we are looking forward to it

within the course of the next several months. it within the course of the next several months.— within the course of the next several months. . , , ., ., several months. it has been a great honour to talk _ several months. it has been a great honour to talk to _ several months. it has been a great honour to talk to you _ several months. it has been a great honour to talk to you and _ several months. it has been a great honour to talk to you and for - several months. it has been a great honour to talk to you and for you i several months. it has been a great honour to talk to you and for you to j honour to talk to you and for you to come straight from the abbey is a real boon for us. thanks for coming and sharing your thoughts on the big day. and sharing your thoughts on the big da . ., , and sharing your thoughts on the big da . . , ., ., and sharing your thoughts on the big da. ., ., ., ,, and sharing your thoughts on the big da. ., ., ., and sharing your thoughts on the big da _ .,, ., ., ., ~' g, the day. pleasure of a thank you. the hiuh day. pleasure of a thank you. the high commissioner— day. pleasure of a thank you. the high commissioner from - day. pleasure of a thank you. the high commissioner from canada | day. pleasure of a thank you. the | high commissioner from canada to day. pleasure of a thank you. the - high commissioner from canada to the uk, ralph goodale, giving his thoughts on the his experience today. what about those gathered in the mall today, despite the rain and those out here in front of the victoria monument? nancy is out on the mall. who do you have with us? i the mall. who do you have with us? i am standing here with diane, just a few metres from where we saw the king and queen a short while ago. diane, what an incredible moment. it's amazing. it was just... there's it's amazing. it wasjust... there's no words — it's amazing. it wasjust... there's no words for— it's amazing. it wasjust... there's no words for it was stop it makes you wannacry. no words for it was stop it makes you wannacry— no words for it was stop it makes ouwannac . ., ., ., ., , you wannacry. you have come a really lona wa .

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he was allowed 75 pound of baggage. and it has the date.— and it has the date. may the 12th, 1911. he would — and it has the date. may the 12th, 1911. he would have _ and it has the date. may the 12th, 1911. he would have gone - and it has the date. may the 12th, 1911. he would have gone to - and it has the date. may the 12th, | 1911. he would have gone to halifax to get _ 1911. he would have gone to halifax to get the _ 1911. he would have gone to halifax to get the boat over here to march. what _ to get the boat over here to march. what has _ to get the boat over here to march. what has it — to get the boat over here to march. what has it meant for you today, to be here? it what has it meant for you today, to be here? , , ,, what has it meant for you today, to be here? , , i. ., be here? it is beyond the world. there he is _ be here? it is beyond the world. there he is with _ be here? it is beyond the world. there he is with the _ be here? it is beyond the world. there he is with the soldiers - be here? it is beyond the world. there he is with the soldiers he | there he is with the soldiers he had _ there he is with the soldiers he had. �* ., �* , there he is with the soldiers he had. �* . �*, ~ ., there he is with the soldiers he had. �* ., �*, . ., fl had. and that's him there? wow. a very smart — had. and that's him there? wow. a very smart looking _ had. and that's him there? wow. a very smart looking man. _ had. and that's him there? wow. a very smart looking man. i'm - had. and that's him there? wow. a very smart looking man. i'm so - very smart looking man. i'm so beyond — very smart looking man. i'm so beyond proud to know that he was part of— beyond proud to know that he was part of this — beyond proud to know that he was part of this regalia and celebration. to have that in my history. — celebration. to have that in my history. it _ celebration. to have that in my history, it means more to me now being _ history, it means more to me now being here — history, it means more to me now being here and seeing it.- history, it means more to me now being here and seeing it. thank you for sharin: being here and seeing it. thank you for sharing that _ being here and seeing it. thank you for sharing that with _ being here and seeing it. thank you for sharing that with us. _ being here and seeing it. thank you for sharing that with us. christian, i for sharing that with us. christian, that's what it's really about for many people here. it's notjust about the pageantry but also those

deep connections to the old lives and old families and to this nation as well. back to you. the connections _ as well. back to you. the connections we _ as well. back to you. the connections we have - as well. back to you. the | connections we have been as well. back to you. the connections we have been talking about with the high commissioner. we are overdosing on canadians. we had the high commissioner, your guess there with the maple leafs on her head. and lyse doucet, our chief international correspondent has just been presenting a special programme on the world service. the last time i saw you, you were in saudi arabia. from one kingdom to the next. it is a measure of our times that in the middle of what are momentous events for sudan, plunged into violence and lawlessness, the middle of the first peace talks between the rival factions, and at the same time this momentous occasion here in britain. i have to say, when you see this kind of occasion, it's the kind of normalcy, stability, that so many other countries we cover around the world would like to see, and whatever you think of the monarchy,

whether you support it or not. it is an important _ whether you support it or not. it is an important point is that we have had three prime minister, two heads of state. ~ , . , of state. within solid structures. and the stability _ of state. within solid structures. and the stability that _ of state. within solid structures. and the stability that flows - of state. within solid structures. and the stability that flows from | and the stability that flows from that. for example in sudan, they were challenging the very system. for example in sudan, they were challenging the very system. today, people are challenging the system of the monarchy, the constitutional monarchy, the questions will be raised in many of the other 14 realms, whether or not to have a constitutional monarchy. but it is donein constitutional monarchy. but it is done in a way of dialogue not a violent rupturing.— done in a way of dialogue not a violent rupturing. yes, people might ick me u- violent rupturing. yes, people might pick me up on _ violent rupturing. yes, people might pick me up on the — violent rupturing. yes, people might pick me up on the issue _ violent rupturing. yes, people might pick me up on the issue of _ pick me up on the issue of stability, particularly political stability, particularly political stability but it is run peacefully and that is important. let's talk about canada, very recently quebec changed its oath and when you look at the polling, there is a shift. what you think it would have meant to them today? the

what you think it would have meant to them today?— to them today? the polling is the last conducted _ to them today? the polling is the last conducted said _ to them today? the polling is the last conducted said the _ to them today? the polling is the last conducted said the 5296 - to them today? the polling is the last conducted said the 52% of i last conducted said the 52% of canadians now do not want to see a long—term relationship with the monarchy. and that opposition has been raised in the province of quebec, the largest french—speaking province. i was in canada after the death of queen elizabeth ii and spoke to many canadians at that time. and the criticism was greatest in quebec, notjust the but the greatest of all with the strong french language ancestry, saying that a constitutional monarchy isn't inconsistent with democracy. that in our time, inconsistent with democracy. that in ourtime, it is inconsistent with democracy. that in our time, it is an anachronism. it was interesting, i spoke to mary simon, canada's governor general, representative of the king in canada. she is the first to be of indigenous origin. she said that she needed king charles to develop a

greater attachment of the people of canada. with every generation, people feel more distant. it was really striking in canada and i think in many other realms part of the commonwealth, after the death of queen elizabeth, people made a difference between the individual, for whom there was a great respect and affection, and the institution. and i think, now there is less of a personal relationship with king charles iii, there may be even greater questions posed about the monarchy and there being, in canada, there is a king of his estate. i5 monarchy and there being, in canada, there is a king of his estate. is it eas to there is a king of his estate. is it easy to change _ there is a king of his estate. is it easy to change the _ there is a king of his estate. is it easy to change the constitution is such that they could replace him? canada is a complicated question. we are seeing now the prime minister justin trudeau say that now is not the time for this conversation. to remove the king as head of state, the constitutional change would require the assent of all ten provinces, which would include

prophecies which have more of an attachment to the king, this also includes the indigenous communities which have a torturous history with the crown and they do want to see changes. canada, australia, new zealand, well, all of the commonwealth realms, whether it is slavery or land treaties, there was a dark chapters of history. and prince charles, now king charles was much more open than his mother was. very different style. 0n much more open than his mother was. very different style. on his last trip to canada, when he travelled with mary simon, the governor general, he talked about the need to start this conversation. the commissioner _ start this conversation. the commissioner said - start this conversation. the commissioner said that he was highly sensitive to it. just this week, he accompanied some of the indigenous leaders to a meeting with the king. they said, we want a formal apology, we would like the return of cultural artefacts and treasures. and i said

to mary simon, i spoke to her a few days ago and i said, in orderfor a new relationship to be meaningful, does it have to include reparations, financial compensation and she said... and she was at that meeting with the indigenous leaders, she is of inuit ancestry and she said, let's start the conversation. at a certain point, those uncomfortable questions will be raised but let's start talking. i think amongst many in our programme, we spoke to a memberfirm and indigenous member firm and indigenous representatives memberfirm and indigenous representatives from australia, she was very angry and wanted it now. they have waited so long. you travelled to _ they have waited so long. you travelled to so _ they have waited so long. you travelled to so many _ they have waited so long. you travelled to so many countries around the world when you can't criticise the head of state, where there isn't protest. what do you think or feel about one of the reports today that members of the republic had been arrested at trafalgar square? we have graeme

smith here who leads republic on the programme last night, clearly there has been an open conversation with the police but something shifted such that when they got out of the van today they were immediately picked up. how do you feel about that? ~ ., , ., that? while we would be called a totalitarian _ that? while we would be called a totalitarian society _ that? while we would be called a totalitarian society of _ that? while we would be called a totalitarian society of 99.996 i that? while we would be called a totalitarian society of 99.996 of i that? while we would be called a i totalitarian society of 99.996 of the totalitarian society of 99.9% of the population felt the same way or were forced to express the same view in public. the fact that they were allowed to express their views is a measure of democracy, of diversity. is your question saying, well should they have been allowed to disrupt it? ithink, looking they have been allowed to disrupt it? i think, looking around us all of the metropolitan police, they would say that now is not the occasion. you will have a chance to play or and apply for a licence but today you should not... this is the biggest military operation, it is unprecedented.— biggest military operation, it is unprecedented. there is a time of the lace. unprecedented. there is a time of the place- it _ unprecedented. there is a time of the place. it does _ unprecedented. there is a time of the place. it does raise _ unprecedented. there is a time of the place. it does raise the - the place. it does raise the question — the place. it does raise the

question and _ the place. it does raise the question and they'll- the place. it does raise the question and they'll be i the place. it does raise the i question and they'll be many the place. it does raise the - question and they'll be many critics who why couldn't they protest? there were certainly a lot of protesters who booed all the way through the ceremony, and people here criticise the ceremony. so people are speaking out but not in such a way that they were allowed to come right to the centre here and to basically disrupt and destroy an occasion which has been broadcast right around the world. {a been broadcast right around the world. ., .., been broadcast right around the world. ., ., ,, ., world. co can we talk about the riaht world. co can we talk about the right time _ world. co can we talk about the right time and _ world. co can we talk about the right time and place _ world. co can we talk about the right time and place within i world. co can we talk about the right time and place within a i right time and place within a democracy, that was their decision, we arejust democracy, that was their decision, we are just journalists telling democracy, that was their decision, we are justjournalists telling the story. we will speak to one of the lawyers representing the group later on the programme but for the moment thank you so much. let's get a feel for what is going around the country. we have focused a lot on the mall and the tens of thousands who have been here in london today. many of them came in on the tube this morning. 0thers many of them came in on the tube this morning. others have been

watching the coronation on big screens around the country. let's speak to nikki who is in luton. how is it there? it speak to nikki who is in luton. how is it there?— is it there? it is all going on. we have not is it there? it is all going on. we have got music _ is it there? it is all going on. we have got music playing - is it there? it is all going on. we have got music playing in - is it there? it is all going on. we have got music playing in the i have got music playing in the background, very much enjoying it. i have no doubt that the weather has impacted the numbers today but everything has gone ahead, the parade was this morning that went ahead. that was made up of residents and volunteers and that parade ended up and volunteers and that parade ended up right here where i am at st george's square in luton. that was followed by a flag display. then the coronation was played out on the big screen behind me. and then it really was party time in luton. there's been a whole programme of events. there is face painting and storytelling, they move that forward to try and keep more people here. you can't see this but there is a

food truck that has got south indian food truck that has got south indian food which i will definitely have a bit of later. they have had loads of acts on the stage today, dancers and drummers, kenyan dancers, irish dancing. a muslim theatre group. and we did have some current notional theme... honestly quite incredible how they do it is great. but i think the acts have been very reflective about the kind of diverse town that luton is. that the king shows this is one of the first places to visit some of the people here today met him during that visit. it's a wonderful, very damp not so crowded but i am just praying for my hair

because by six o'clock this is going to be massive. bud because by six o'clock this is going to be massive.— to be massive. and watching them over our to be massive. and watching them over your right _ to be massive. and watching them over your right hand _ to be massive. and watching them over your right hand shoulder, i to be massive. and watching them | over your right hand shoulder, beer in one hand and umbrella in the other. they are having a good time. very nice to see you. we may be going to other places around the country over the course of the next few hours. we were just talking about the arrest in central london, the anti—monarchy group republic said that the police had detained six of its demonstrators whilstjust stop oil said that 16 of its members have been arrested. we speak to their criminal defence lawyer who represents defendants in a number of high—profile cases involving the right to protest. thank you very much a being with us. i was just saying that we have graham smith with us from republic last night and he told me that he had had an open conversation with the police about where they were going to be and how they would protest so what went wrong? we they would protest so what went wron: ? ~ ., ., ., , , they would protest so what went wronu? ~ ., ., ., , , ., wrong? we have no idea. it seems an absolutely outrageous _ wrong? we have no idea. it seems an absolutely outrageous arrest. -

absolutely outrageous arrest. initial reports suggest that all they were doing was unloading their placards to protest. let me just correct something that one of your previous speakers said, there is no evidence that has been disclosed out any disruptive protest. what the met seems to adopted is a zero tolerance approach to speaking your mind to saying, i am approach to speaking your mind to saying, iam not approach to speaking your mind to saying, i am not in favour of this coronation, i am saying, i am not in favour of this coronation, iam not saying, i am not in favour of this coronation, i am not in favour of the monarchy and it is quite simply outrageous. braids the monarchy and it is quite simply outrageous-— the monarchy and it is quite simply outrateous, . ., , ., ., outrageous. was it? i have read some ofthe outrageous. was it? i have read some of the reports — outrageous. was it? i have read some of the reports i _ outrageous. was it? i have read some of the reports i have _ outrageous. was it? i have read some of the reports i have not _ outrageous. was it? i have read some of the reports i have not been - outrageous. was it? i have read some of the reports i have not been down i of the reports i have not been down there but one of the concerns was it was things that they were carrying which they thought might have meant that they could lock arms and lock together and that might form a disruptive protest, could that have been it? we disruptive protest, could that have been it? ~ ., ., disruptive protest, could that have been it? ~ . ., , ., been it? we will wait and see and we will wait to see _ been it? we will wait and see and we will wait to see which _ been it? we will wait and see and we will wait to see which evidence i been it? we will wait and see and we will wait to see which evidence the i will wait to see which evidence the met produces but initial reports that we have was that it was placards, from the group republic and what the met have done is arrested a large number of people,

not under even new policing powers but under the old law of breach of the peace and that suggests not to lock arm devices, that suggests that they want to clamp down straightaway.— they want to clamp down straiahtawa . , ., , , straightaway. obviously, you will know that there _ straightaway. obviously, you will know that there are _ straightaway. obviously, you will know that there are new - straightaway. obviously, you will know that there are new laws i straightaway. obviously, you will| know that there are new laws that have been brought in, that were rushed in time for the coronation. do you think the arrests were made under that new law. the information that we have — under that new law. the information that we have is _ under that new law. the information that we have is that _ under that new law. the information that we have is that they _ under that new law. the information that we have is that they weren't i that we have is that they weren't made under the new law but that they were made under older provisions. but the fact that they have got new laws and they already perhaps not using the old laws correctly gives great deal of cause for concern. band great deal of cause for concern. and the letter that _ great deal of cause for concern. and the letter that graham and some of the letter that graham and some of the others were sent earlier in the week about the new police powers act, have you taken a look at that and what do you see in the context of that letter that might be problematic for groups like republic

as they continue to protest.- as they continue to protest. protest is a fundamental _ as they continue to protest. protest is a fundamental human _ as they continue to protest. protest is a fundamental human right. it i as they continue to protest. protest is a fundamental human right. it is| is a fundamental human right. it is not something that the state tolerates or gives to us at appropriate times, it is our human right. both from english common law indeed european human rights. the idea that the state should be warning people about exercising it is simply not appropriate in a modern democracy.— is simply not appropriate in a modern democracy. thank you for brinuain modern democracy. thank you for bringing us _ modern democracy. thank you for bringing us up _ modern democracy. thank you for bringing us up to _ modern democracy. thank you for bringing us up to date. _ modern democracy. thank you for bringing us up to date. good i modern democracy. thank you for bringing us up to date. good to i modern democracy. thank you for i bringing us up to date. good to talk to you. robert, historian and biographer is with me. just let's pick up on that because, look, there are people who feel very strongly on hereditary monarchy being the head of state. but i sense, the vast majority of those who aren't royalists like these people out here are generally indifferent. and that is the challenge for the royal

family. how do they speak and make themselves relevant to a sizeable chunk of people who don't have a feeling one way or the other. i am afraid i couldn't _ feeling one way or the other. i am afraid i couldn't hear _ feeling one way or the other. i —n afraid i couldn't hear what he was saying because it was into your ear are not into mine but democracy, freedom of speech absolutely crucial, they are at the heart of our british constitution that the canadian high commissioner was talking about that applies to us as well as to canada. my own feeling is that there is a time and place for everything. it is one thing perhaps for anti—monarchy is to protest even at the opening of parliament but my personal feeling at the opening of parliament but my personalfeeling is at the opening of parliament but my personal feeling is that coming to an occasion like this is a bit like an occasion like this is a bit like atheist an occasion like this is a bit like a theist going into church and protesting. it is one thing for atheists and christians to debate their faith but when christians are meeting to worship, is it right for atheists to go when? is it right when the labour party is meeting for conservatives to go in and break up

their meeting? there are other functions and forums for debate and so that is the future. but at the heart of it, if the monarchy does not command people's allegiance and commitment, then it is going to fade. ~ ., ., ~ commitment, then it is going to fade. . . ., ,, ., commitment, then it is going to fade. ~ . ., ,, ., ., commitment, then it is going to fade. . ., ,, ., ., fade. we are talking a lot about the modernisation _ fade. we are talking a lot about the modernisation and _ fade. we are talking a lot about the modernisation and the _ fade. we are talking a lot about the modernisation and the reflection i modernisation and the reflection that the king has for the modern way of life, modern multicultural society that we celebrate in the uk and that was certainly reflected today in the ceremony, we saw the red gali brought by different faiths, we saw a recognition from different face as he left the abbey today. what did you make of that? i was very pleased because it happens to coincide with my own feelings about freedom of faith. i think it is wonderful that prince charles, as we still think of him, having worked for so long in this area was finally able to show it and display it to

everybody. when he was prince, he came up with this one defer away of putting it, he doesn't want to be defender of the faith but of faiths. and that is what we saw today. and he tends to actually religious experiences, i wonder how many young english people look at that service with old gentleman reading of cue cards wondered, what has this got to do with me? but still, it was an expression of christian faith and religion and to open that up to our entire multiethnic, multi—faith society was just the right thing it seemed to me.— seemed to me. there is also a renewal which _ seemed to me. there is also a renewal which comes - seemed to me. there is also a renewal which comes from i seemed to me. there is also a renewal which comes from the seemed to me. there is also a i renewal which comes from the new generations of the royal family, renewal which comes from the new generations of the royalfamily, of course, prince william is playing a much more forward facing role now. he was with his father on the mall yesterday. he was in his robes and

mantle today swearing his allegiance and then we have prince george who was carrying the robes at the back, a page today. what do you make of the line and how relevant that is to the line and how relevant that is to the standing of the royal family, notjust here but around the commonwealth? i notjust here but around the commonwealth?— commonwealth? i was a bit disappointed _ commonwealth? i was a bit disappointed that _ commonwealth? i was a bit disappointed that prince i commonwealth? i was a bit i disappointed that prince louis wasn't naughtier, i thought it was too well—behaved. here's a case in point. clearly prince george is destined for royal duties, then there is charlotte and then there is little louis. he is the third in line, does he really have to give up his whole life for the royal family. it is a big question. interestingly, as we know, princess and decided that none of her children should have royal responsibilities. i am not always aware that the new duke of edinburgh and his wife, that is edward and sophie, they have given their children a choice. they have

got the boy and the girl and they said to them, it is up to you what you do when you grow up, start making your mind up when you are 18. it is interesting you say that prince george, if he wants it, do you think we have evolved so much, given what has happened with prince carry that even the first in line to the throne could take a decision whether he wants to be king? i think so. if the person _ whether he wants to be king? i think so. if the person and _ whether he wants to be king? i think so. if the person and that _ whether he wants to be king? i think so. if the person and that is - whether he wants to be king? i think so. if the person and that is not i so. if the person and that is not doing it because they wanted, that would argue in favour of all of the things that are wrong about the monarchy, the fact that it is inherited. the fact that someone like prince george could when the time came say, actually, it's not for me. the monarchy would have an issue but it would be the right issue but it would be the right issue to have.— issue but it would be the right issue to have. �* , , ., issue to have. and because of the chances, issue to have. and because of the changes. it _ issue to have. and because of the changes, it would _ issue to have. and because of the changes, it would directly - issue to have. and because of the changes, it would directly go i issue to have. and because of the changes, it would directly go to i changes, it would directly go to princess charlotte. band changes, it would directly go to princess charlotte.— princess charlotte. and yes it would. that _ princess charlotte. and yes it would. that is _ princess charlotte. and yes it would. that is one _ princess charlotte. and yes it would. that is one of- princess charlotte. and yes it would. that is one of the i princess charlotte. and yes it i would. that is one of the changes in the last century which is the good. we will come back to you. let's get

another view from around the commonwealth. we have heard plenty from the canadians in the last hour. let's speak to across one in jamaica. we have had the prominent news that jamaica wants to rush ahead to a referendum on the future of the monarchy so i wonder how it might have gone down there today. it has been pretty quiet, to say the least. people are doing what they would normally do on a saturday morning. people are going to the supermarket, getting their washing done. and you've also got to bear in mind that time that the actual coronation was taking place. i got an alert from bbc news and i looked across at my phone and groaned because it was about 5am. that sort of thing didn't put it into the public consciousness. as you say, the fact that the jamaican authorities have almost pressed the fast forward button to try and get a referendum moving forward says a lot

about the future role of the monarchy, not only here but in the other realms within the caribbean. there are eight countries within the caribbean you are looking now how these things are going to play out. they are looking at jamaica and barbados that didn't have a referendum. they are looking at holding referendums, bahamas, grenade, to try and decide what they should do in future, do they want a constitutional monarchy order they want to move to be republics? ii constitutional monarchy order they want to move to be republics? if you look at the — want to move to be republics? if you look at the polling _ want to move to be republics? if you look at the polling in _ want to move to be republics? if you look at the polling in the _ want to move to be republics? if you look at the polling in the united kingdom, clearly there is more affection for the royal family among older generations. the problem area is 18 to 24—year—olds. is that reflected in jamaican is 18 to 24—year—olds. is that reflected injamaican society? i think it is interesting that a moment ago you mentioned williams and kate and the kids earlier on. i think here, harry and megan matt, if

they would have a greater role would have an impact. many people look at the way they perceive that meghan has been treated as being indicative of the relationship that they have with the royals. and the relationship that they have with the history of the royals in the caribbean. i think if there was a way to rehabilitate that relationship, let's see how that goes. i think that would play a major role in changing some of the views of some people about the royal family here in the caribbean. just a little earlier— family here in the caribbean. just a little earlier we _ family here in the caribbean. just a little earlier we were _ family here in the caribbean. just a little earlier we were talking - family here in the caribbean. just a little earlier we were talking about the thoughts of the indigenous leaders from canada and they are very sensitive, of course, about discussions about slavery in the history of the royal family in canada. there are elements that the king talks quite openly about, he does reflect on that and is open to conversation about it. is that not recognised in jamaica?

conversation about it. is that not recognised injamaica? you conversation about it. is that not recognised in jamaica? you could onl , the recognised in jamaica? you could only, the government _ recognised in jamaica? you could only, the government has - recognised in jamaica? you could only, the government has to i recognised in jamaica? you could only, the government has to be i recognised in jamaica? you could i only, the government has to be part of this. and it is great to say, or at least say that this was an abhorrent act, it's great to say that we are going to look into our own family history in regards to slavery but you have to bear in mind, when people, and i have of caribbean descent, when people in jamaica look at the royal family but they look at the pomp and splendour, it makes them remember that therefore bearers were taken from africa in sleeved and were not compensated in any way. —— enslaved. not only is there a move away from the monarchy which is very active but also the idea that these countries looking towards reparations as being true justice for what happened in the past. it is aood to

for what happened in the past. it is good to see — for what happened in the past. it is good to see you again, nick. i'm just looking over your shoulder —— and it is pouring it down here. i think i need to come and join you. yes, it is very different. think i need to come and 'oin you. yes, it is very different.i yes, it is very different. there's a reason that _ yes, it is very different. there's a reason that you're _ yes, it is very different. there's a reason that you're there - yes, it is very different. there's a reason that you're there and i i yes, it is very different. there's a reason that you're there and i am j reason that you're there and i am here, you have got it right. really good to see neck there injamaica. thank you so much. let's bring on robert too is still with us. we are bouncing around the commonwealth. we are getting similar views in some respect and the role of the family that it respect and the role of the family thatitis respect and the role of the family that it is up for debate. i was just saying that the game, particularly when it comes to issues of slavery and the empire and the history of the empire in the realm, he is open to a conversation about it in fact, just yesterday he had some of its leaders in the palace for a lunch and it was discussed.— and it was discussed. there is a very important _ and it was discussed. there is a very important distinction i and it was discussed. there is a very important distinction to i and it was discussed. there is a i very important distinction to make here. you are quite rightly talking

about the way in which the king has said to a researcher who wants to look into the royal archives to investigate links between the family and slavery. he said, be my guest. fair enough. but when it comes to reparations which is a very valid and important issue. that is an issue for the government to decide. the king here can't say, oh, yes, i think we should pay them back. because what has downing street got to say? watch as parliament got to say? it is a fine line to walk. what about the conversation having with the high commissioner obviously, there has been a lot of focus on today in the coronation of course but now plans have to be made for the royal family to go out and for him to go and be king in the realm. do you expect that we will see the king and camilla on the road quite a lot over the next year? i am king and camilla on the road quite a lot over the next year?— king and camilla on the road quite a lot over the next year? i am sure we will and particularly _

lot over the next year? i am sure we will and particularly to _ will and particularly to the caribbean but again, there is a distinction to make. barbados has ended its role as a commonwealth realm. the monarchy is no longer head of state there, but they have stayed in the commonwealth. and as the prime minister is barbados put it, she thinks that that is the way ahead for the caribbean. i think she is right. because she said, imagine any little child in barbados who looks up to the head of state, any child in any society ought to be to aspire to that position. what did they see? they saw this lovely maternal grandmother who was a white lady. that was ok but they could never get there. i am sure that as the years go by, the commonwealth realms will diminish and vanish but that does not end the role of the commonwealth is actually a rather more modern and free and liberated organisation, representing real values in the round. it is organisation, representing real values in the round.— organisation, representing real values in the round. it is going to be very different _

values in the round. it is going to be very different in _ values in the round. it is going to be very different in 1954 - values in the round. it is going to be very different in 1954 when i values in the round. it is going to| be very different in 1954 when the queen was almost permanently away, with the duke of edinburgh off to australia. i think they were away for months. australia. i think they were away for months-— for months. that will be less of a roblem for months. that will be less of a problem with _ for months. that will be less of a problem with planes _ for months. that will be less of a problem with planes and - for months. that will be less of a problem with planes and so i for months. that will be less of a | problem with planes and so long. actually, here, with this new king we have got a very good performer. and i say that in the most sincere way. look at how well he stood there for 30 minutes in germany speaking german, a bit of english, speaking to the bundestag, using words like ukraine. democracy and western defence. he has a persuasive advocate for our values. for the moment thank _ advocate for our values. for the moment thank you _ advocate for our values. for the moment thank you very - advocate for our values. for the moment thank you very much. i advocate for our values. for the i moment thank you very much. we are going to change position from our position here and join from the ali who is helping us in a afternoon coverage. whilst we are doing that. let us replay some of the key moments from the abbey this

afternoon. 0ur royal correspondent nicholas witchell has been watching events. london. the 6th of may 2023, coronation day. in an abbey at westminster where these things have been done for nearly a thousand years, a congregation to represent the britain of today had come together with honoured guests from the wider world. the flags of the realms of the 14 other nations of which the british monarch is also head of state, were borne in procession. the weather, as predicted, left a lot to be desired. the king and the queen consort left buckingham palace in steady rain.

at the abbey, the king's family were taking their places. the duke of sussex making a brief visit to london without his wife and the duke of york making a brief appearance in public, wearing the robes of a knight of the garter. dressed in his robes of state... the king entered the abbey for his crowning to hubert parry�*s anthem, i was glad. the prince and princess

of wales took their places with princess charlotte and five—year—old prince louis. the king was greeted to his coronation by a chorister. your majesty, as children of the kingdom of god we welcome you in the name of the king of kings. in his name and after his example, i come not to be served but to serve. will you solemnly- promise and swear... the king swore the traditional coronation 0ath to govern the peoples of the united kingdom and his other realms and territories according to their laws. i solemnly promise so to do. there was a special composition from the ascension choir. and then the most sacred

moments of the service... # zadok the priest #. the anointing of the monarch for which the king was divested of his robe and jacket and moved to the coronation chair which had been screened from view to be anointed with holy oil. the king knelt before the altar before being dressed in robes of gold to receive the coronation regalia. the orbs, sceptres and other items, some of which were presented by representatives of other faiths. and then the moment of the king's crowning.

god save the king! god save the king. the prince of wales pledged his loyalty. god save the king! god save king charles. the family watched. harry in the third row from the front. i now invite those who wish to offer their support to do so. the congregation in the abbey recited the homage of the people. i swear that i will pay true allegiance to your majesty and to your heirs and successors according to law. so help me god. and then the queen was crowned, the culmination of the transformation of the former camilla parker—bowles.