morning. it was an extraordinary weekend. this morning, on the radio, on the television, said the coronation make you feel proud? what is the story? crowning glory tier 28 million people in the uk watching at its peak. that was when the archbishop of canterbury put the crown on king charles head. a crown to some, a glorified christmas cracker had two others. made of more expensive stuff. what do you think about it all and what does it mean for all of

us? it was a resting ceremony, and there were protesters of course. a0 million people did not watch it. a man in a chair wearing a hat. we want your feelings this morning, a penny for your thought, a penny more urgent for your thoughts even. will it stick with you forever or did it stick? we want to know how you're feeling this morning, a source of great happiness and pride and a sense of togetherness for many of you. for others, less so. what are we as a nation? what does it tell us about ourselves at the start of a new reign. all the music and marching, the amazing ceremony. did it make you feel a bit sick?

bringing a nation together or emphasising what divides us? did the coronation make you proud? there we are and here we go. here is the news. more than 50,000 volunteering events are being held across the uk today to mark the final day of the coronation celebrations. people are being encouraged to take part in the big help out, to build a "lasting volunteering legacy." the king and queen are not expected to attend any events — but other royals will. the metropolitan police says it arrested 6a people in london on saturday, ahead of the coronation. four people have been charged and will appear in court later today. anti—monarchy activists have criticised the approach taken by officers. bbc analysis has found

that the number of pharmacies in england has fallen to its lowest level since 2015. 160 closed over the past two years —— leaving just over 11,000 community chemists. performers at this year's eurovision song contest arrived in liverpool last night. all 37 acts were presented on a turquoise carpet — and thousands of people gathered for the opening ceremony outside st georges hall. it will be very interesting to hear what you think about all of this. i heard a lot of people say we do this better than anyone else in the world. some people said it on social media and then a heated debate ensued. it was an extraordinary

spectacle, though. wasn't it two beautifully filmed. some of the camera, it was lovely. i'm sure you're appreciated that. a lot of people spoke about the wonderful weekend of community and togetherness which has given us a sense of who we are and who we think we are and where we are going. a triumph of everything we are. tell us your moment of moments, what it means to you, what it means to all of us going ahead? what does it say about us a few another happy and glorious chapter in our island's story. 0r glorious chapter in our island's story. or are you less enamoured. the guardian this morning, it is an interesting paragraph, the coronation undoubtedly worked its enchantments on parts of the populous but perhaps for too many others it was an empty conjuring trick and the response was neither

rapturous or inspired, amused curiosity, should monarchy�*s great enemy, indifference. whether you are passionately for or against or passionately for or against or passionately indifferent? what does it mean? marie.— passionately indifferent? what does it mean? marie. good morning. how are ou? it mean? marie. good morning. how are you? i — it mean? marie. good morning. how are you? i am _ it mean? marie. good morning. how are you? i am very — it mean? marie. good morning. how are you? i am very well— it mean? marie. good morning. how are you? i am very well and - it mean? marie. good morning. how are you? i am very well and i - it mean? marie. good morning. how are you? i am very well and i cannot| are you? i am very well and i cannot wait to hear— are you? i am very well and i cannot wait to hear what _ are you? i am very well and i cannot wait to hear what you thought - are you? i am very well and i cannot wait to hear what you thought about j wait to hear what you thought about it all and what your moment was. i just want to bring in sue as well. good morning, sue.— just want to bring in sue as well. good morning, sue. two good morning, sue. good morning. two ureat good morning, sue. good morning. two great enthusiasts. _ good morning, sue. good morning. two great enthusiasts. marie, _ good morning, sue. good morning. two great enthusiasts. marie, what - good morning, sue. good morning. two great enthusiasts. marie, what was - great enthusiasts. marie, what was it all about for you? it great enthusiasts. marie, what was it all about for you?— it all about for you? it was an amazin: it all about for you? it was an amazing experience. - it all about for you? it was an amazing experience. i- it all about for you? it was an amazing experience. i arrived it all about for you? it was an i amazing experience. i arrived on it all about for you? it was an - amazing experience. i arrived on the mall on thursday and camped out for two nights. within a couple of hours of being there, i was not alone. we

made friends from all over the world. all those actions that we had, we were all here for one purpose to celebrate the coronation. it was just the most beautiful, the colour, the pageantry, the symbolism of everything, it was astounding. i cried on several occasions. it was overwhelming. i could not put on my finger on as to why i cried apart from being part of a historic event. 0ne from being part of a historic event. one that i can tell the story to my grandchildren hopefully in the future. it was amazing. you said earlier, we do this kind of thing the best. we absolutely do. to put on a magnificent display of regency.

you cannot put your finger on why you cried, you cried on a number of occasions, try and put your finger on why you cried. which part of it was the most emotional?- was the most emotional? when i saw kin: was the most emotional? when i saw king charles — was the most emotional? when i saw king charles leave _ was the most emotional? when i saw king charles leave buckingham - was the most emotional? when i saw| king charles leave buckingham palace to make his way to the coronation, a plain white outfit, almost like arriving naked, and lowering himself for being crowned. i cried then. i cried when the crown was placed on its head with a single gun salute which made usjump. it was a very emotional moment. and then seeing them coming back in the stunning golden coach and seeing behind,

william and kate and their children, it was so emotional, it was beautiful, yes, it was overwhelming. sssooo, are you sharing these feelings? sssooo, are you sharing these feelinas? ~ ., ., , ., feelings? well done for camping out, i watched it from _ feelings? well done for camping out, i watched it from my _ feelings? well done for camping out, i watched it from my living _ feelings? well done for camping out, i watched it from my living room. - feelings? well done for camping out, i watched it from my living room. i i i watched it from my living room. i absolutely— i watched it from my living room. i absolutely adored it. i was in front of the _ absolutely adored it. i was in front of the tv— absolutely adored it. i was in front of the tv from 9:30am in the morning. _ of the tv from 9:30am in the morning, the whole way we do it, the pageantry, _ morning, the whole way we do it, the pageantry, the celebration, everything was done to perfection. what _ everything was done to perfection. what hits— everything was done to perfection. what hits me is the history. it goes back over_ what hits me is the history. it goes back over 1000 years. what hit me, i found _ back over 1000 years. what hit me, i found some _ back over 1000 years. what hit me, i found some parts quite overwhelming, the music, _ found some parts quite overwhelming, the music, the choir. you are already— the music, the choir. you are already in_ the music, the choir. you are already in a _ the music, the choir. you are already in a zone of this is amazing, _ already in a zone of this is amazing, i cannot believe it, and then— amazing, i cannot believe it, and then the — amazing, i cannot believe it, and then the music hits you. when they

played, _ then the music hits you. when they played. oh. — then the music hits you. when they played, oh, my word, ished then the music hits you. when they played, oh, my word, i shed a tear. for me. _ played, oh, my word, i shed a tear. for me. i_ played, oh, my word, i shed a tear. for me. i am — played, oh, my word, i shed a tear. for me. i am a _ played, oh, my word, i shed a tear. for me, i am a firm believer in the royal— for me, i am a firm believer in the royal family— for me, i am a firm believer in the royal family and the monarchy. it is what makes — royal family and the monarchy. it is what makes as british as far as i am concerned. — what makes as british as far as i am concerned, all the history behind it. concerned, all the history behind it~ if_ concerned, all the history behind it. if people want to be anti—monarchy, that is fine, everyone _ anti—monarchy, that is fine, everyone has their opinion. i agree that the _ everyone has their opinion. i agree that the protesters should have been removed _ that the protesters should have been removed on the day. it is one day of everyone _ removed on the day. it is one day of everyone rejoicing together. just watching — everyone rejoicing together. just watching something amazing play out. i am struggling with words. i loved it. ., , ., , ., it. the right to free protest and ex - ress it. the right to free protest and exnress your — it. the right to free protest and express your opposition - it. the right to free protest and express your opposition to - it. the right to free protest and - express your opposition to someone or something or anything in our country is as much part of what we are as the monarchy, isn't it? i am

are as the monarchy, isn't it? i am a believer— are as the monarchy, isn't it? i am a believer in _ are as the monarchy, isn't it? i am a believer in freedom _ are as the monarchy, isn't it? i am a believer in freedom of— are as the monarchy, isn't it? i am a believer in freedom of speech, you have the _ a believer in freedom of speech, you have the right to offend someone because — have the right to offend someone because the emotion is there, if they— because the emotion is there, if they are — because the emotion is there, if they are offended, not the person who is_ they are offended, not the person who is saying it. but on a day like that, _ who is saying it. but on a day like that, when— who is saying it. but on a day like that, when so much time and effort has gone _ that, when so much time and effort has gone into it, don't get me started — has gone into it, don't get me started on— has gone into it, don't get me started on the military side of things. — started on the military side of things. it _ started on the military side of things, it was beautiful. it is only one day, — things, it was beautiful. it is only one day, yes, protest, but you are not going — one day, yes, protest, but you are not going to — one day, yes, protest, but you are not going to be able to protest where — not going to be able to protest where the world can see it. there were _ where the world can see it. there were protests carrying on elsewhere and that _ were protests carrying on elsewhere and that is _ were protests carrying on elsewhere and that is fine. they are not going to allow— and that is fine. they are not going to allow protest down the mall, in front— to allow protest down the mall, in front of— to allow protest down the mall, in front of the coach, that type of thing _ front of the coach, that type of thing because you cannot. the right to protest— thing because you cannot. the right to protest is important, i agree with— to protest is important, i agree with it. — to protest is important, i agree with it. but _ to protest is important, i agree with it, but on that day, do it somewhere else. we with it, but on that day, do it somewhere else.— with it, but on that day, do it somewhere else. we are hearing wor in: somewhere else. we are hearing worrying rumours _ somewhere else. we are hearing worrying rumours about - somewhere else. we are hearing worrying rumours about what - somewhere else. we are hearingj worrying rumours about what the protesters were doing. it was a relief to hear that they had been arrested. i am all for protest, i

have been on many protest but not anti—monarchy ones obviously. but other protest, but when there are things potentially been done which will put peoples lives in danger, things need to happen. the protest conversation _ things need to happen. the protest conversation is _ things need to happen. the protest conversation is one _ things need to happen. the protest conversation is one we _ things need to happen. the protest conversation is one we will- things need to happen. the protest conversation is one we will return l conversation is one we will return to. it was lively last week. given the events over the weekend, it is something that will run and run. did you find it, the ceremony, that there was something, i don't know if you are religious, but it was sacred? , ., , you are religious, but it was sacred? , ., sacred? sorry, marie, was that atient sacred? sorry, marie, was that patient are _ sacred? sorry, marie, was that patient are you? _ sacred? sorry, marie, was that patient are you? yes, - sacred? sorry, marie, was that patient are you? yes, far- sacred? sorry, marie, was that patient are you? yes, far from | sacred? sorry, marie, was that - patient are you? yes, far from being a christian, — patient are you? yes, far from being a christian, but _ patient are you? yes, far from being a christian, but the _ patient are you? yes, far from being a christian, but the symbolism, - patient are you? yes, far from being a christian, but the symbolism, thel a christian, but the symbolism, the item is king was given, they are

historical. this has been happening at those objects have been given to monarchs since 1066. the symbolism is amazing. i monarchs since 1066. the symbolism is amazinu. .., , , monarchs since 1066. the symbolism is amazinu. , , ., is amazing. i completely agree. i was raised _ is amazing. i completely agree. i was raised church _ is amazing. i completely agree. i was raised church of— is amazing. i completely agree. i was raised church of england, i is amazing. i completely agree. i| was raised church of england, my father— was raised church of england, my father is— was raised church of england, my father is a — was raised church of england, my father is a muslim. he adores everything about the event on saturday, it made him proud. he came here as _ saturday, it made him proud. he came here as an— saturday, it made him proud. he came here as an immigrant in the 605 to id here as an immigrant in the 605 to go to— here as an immigrant in the 605 to go to university. the key reason he came _ go to university. the key reason he came was— go to university. the key reason he came was because britain was renowned _ came was because britain was renowned for education and employment, he is a firm royali5t now _ employment, he is a firm royali5t now it _ employment, he is a firm royali5t now it is — employment, he is a firm royali5t now. it is lovely looking on it from a multicultural point of view because _ a multicultural point of view because it was fully inclusive. 0ne because it was fully inclusive. one of my— because it was fully inclusive. one of my favourite things were the people — of my favourite things were the people there from my childhood that were involved in the event which was iover _ were involved in the event which was iover to _ were involved in the event which was lovely to see. there were people

there _ lovely to see. there were people there that — lovely to see. there were people there that i have known since i was three _ there that i have known since i was three or— there that i have known since i was three or four— there that i have known since i was three or four years old, the presenter— three or four years old, the presenter from play5chool, i had forgotten — presenter from play5chool, i had forgotten all about her. the continuity. _ forgotten all about her. the continuity, people - forgotten all about her. iie: continuity, people we forgotten all about her. "iie: continuity, people we have forgotten all about her. jug continuity, people we have known forgotten all about her. iie: continuity, people we have known all her life. princess was there. the coronation is an outdated ceremony that highlights a divide in this country, so many people cannot afford a weekly food shop and we glorify a man wearing a crown full ofjewels glorify a man wearing a crown full of jewels stolen from the commonwealth. actually very ashamed. just balancing out. didn't watch, monarchy is an affront to modernity. the protesters were arrested, that is worrying. you have sold it to us beautifully, everything that it means to you two, eileen and david.

eileen, you heard the others talking. what was your moment of moments? ~ . . . talking. what was your moment of moments? ~ . ., , , talking. what was your moment of moments?— talking. what was your moment of moments? . , ~y moments? what was my watch? my moments? what was my watch? my moment of moments _ moments? what was my watch? my moment of moments was _ moments? what was my watch? my moment of moments was in - moments? what was my watch? my moment of moments was in the - moment of moments was in the garden because i avoided the whole performance i am pleased to say. good morning, everybody, by the way. i saw some images in the newspapers and online afterwards. and heard about the disgraceful behaviour where peaceful protesters were arrested before anything had even started to protest about. i think it is very concerning that our freedom of speech is being prevented in an aggressive manner when people had agreed beforehand that nothing untoward would happen. and what was untoward would happen. and what was untoward was the behaviour of the metropolitan police. i think that is

shameful. 0ne metropolitan police. i think that is shameful. one thing that stood out, there were one or two comments in there were one or two comments in the newspaper headlines which showed photographs of king charles in his carriage and said why is he so glum? and during the whole circus, he looked thoroughly miserable. the only person who seemed to be enjoying themselves was queen camilla. i got the distinct impression, i am camilla. i got the distinct impression, iam probably camilla. i got the distinct impression, i am probably quite wrong, i got the distinct impression maybe he has realised this fiasco is going to herald the end of the milk monarchy, especially with the current climate of poverty and food banks and people who cannot pay their bills, and one quarter of a has been spent on pomp and circumstance of was not necessary.

interesting times ahead, you raise some issues in terms of the commonwealth for example, the future of the commonwealth, which rose from the dying flames of the empire. are we in the dying flames of the commonwealth two massive challenges. maybe it was solemnity, not misery. i am wondering whether he had actually been pressured into it. i wondered whether if he is as concerned as he professes to be about the plight of many of his citizens, i will not see subjects, citizens, i will not see subjects, citizens of the country, if he was that concerned about it, i think he would not have gone ahead with it. maybe he was pressured by somebody who wanted to get one over on diana.

this is quite a thing. david, good morning, lots of projections going on about who was thinking what and what it all means. basically, the fundamental question this morning, there is loads in it, is what does this say about us? what do you think it says about us, what we saw, or some of us or if you are not in the garden, on saturday, david? the ostentatious _ garden, on saturday, david? the ostentatious display of wealth and privilege _ ostentatious display of wealth and privilege i5 di5ta5teful. in a climate _ privilege i5 di5ta5teful. in a climate of real hardship for a lot of ordinary— climate of real hardship for a lot of ordinary hard—working people. we have working people using food hanks. — have working people using food bank5, choosing between heating and eating _ bank5, choosing between heating and eating and _ bank5, choosing between heating and eating and so forth. i thought it was outrageou5. and? can

eating and so forth. i thought it was outrageous. and?- eating and so forth. i thought it was outrageous. and? can i ask marie? i completely _ was outrageous. and? can i ask| marie? i completely understand, was outrageous. and? can i ask- marie? i completely understand, you know,... marie? i completely understand, you know, . .. inappropriate _ marie? i completely understand, you know, . .. inappropriate is _ marie? i completely understand, you know, . .. inappropriate is what - marie? i completely understand, you know,... inappropriate is what david| know,... inappropriate is what david said. the amount _ know,... inappropriate is what david said. the amount of— know,... inappropriate is what david said. the amount of tourists - know,... inappropriate is what david said. the amount of tourists who - said. the amount of tourists who were in london _ said. the amount of tourists who were in london over _ said. the amount of tourists who were in london over the - said. the amount of tourists who i were in london over the weekend, most of them will be spending most of this week in the uk. so much to communities and employment for people. the amount of stewards and the police from all different parts of the uk. yes, it cost a lot, it is paid back for by the taxpayers but it brought a lot of money into the country. that wouldn't have been without the coronation. i country. that wouldn't have been without the coronation.— country. that wouldn't have been

without the coronation. i think the word inappropriate _ without the coronation. i think the word inappropriate is _ without the coronation. i think the word inappropriate is too - without the coronation. i think the word inappropriate is too strong. i j word inappropriate is too strong. i think— word inappropriate is too strong. i think it _ word inappropriate is too strong. i think it is — word inappropriate is too strong. i think it is wholly appropriate to celebrate the5e think it is wholly appropriate to celebrate these occasions, from my point _ celebrate these occasions, from my point of— celebrate these occasions, from my point of view, it is uplifting. if you are — point of view, it is uplifting. if you are in _ point of view, it is uplifting. if you are in a _ point of view, it is uplifting. if you are in a pocket of society where you are in a pocket of society where you are _ you are in a pocket of society where you are struggling like the gentleman 5aid, you are struggling like the gentleman said, heating or eating, watching _ gentleman said, heating or eating, watching something lovely on tv, some _ watching something lovely on tv, some people might call it entertainment, it is nice and uplifting _ entertainment, it is nice and uplifting. it'5 entertainment, it is nice and uplifting. it's not compulsory. you do not _ uplifting. it's not compulsory. you do not have — uplifting. it's not compulsory. you do not have to watch it. you do not have _ do not have to watch it. you do not have to _ do not have to watch it. you do not have to love — do not have to watch it. you do not have to love and adore it. you cannot — have to love and adore it. you cannot 5tep have to love and adore it. you cannot step away from the fact that it is part _ cannot step away from the fact that it is part of— cannot step away from the fact that it is part of our country and heritage _ it is part of our country and heritage. blank it it is part of our country and heritage. blam— it is part of our country and heritage. blan it is part of our country and heritaue. blan , . , ., heritage. blank it is an escape from reali , it heritage. blank it is an escape from reality. it is — heritage. blank it is an escape from reality, it is the _ heritage. blank it is an escape from reality, it is the marvellous - reality, it is the marvellous pageant. reality, it is the marvellous pageant-— reality, it is the marvellous “aeant. ., �* ., ., pageant. no, we didn't have to watch it, but we pageant. no, we didn't have to watch it. but we had — pageant. no, we didn't have to watch it, but we had to _ pageant. no, we didn't have to watch it, but we had to pay _ pageant. no, we didn't have to watch it, but we had to pay for _ pageant. no, we didn't have to watch it, but we had to pay for it. _ it, but we had to pay for it. ordinary— it, but we had to pay for it. ordinary people paying for that kind of pump—

ordinary people paying for that kind of pump and ceremony, i think it is not acceptable, really. especially when— not acceptable, really. especially when you— not acceptable, really. especially when you are talking about people with wealth and privilege, and then we could _ with wealth and privilege, and then we could start talking about how they do — we could start talking about how they do not pay their taxes, where has their— they do not pay their taxes, where has their wealth come from? i could io has their wealth come from? i could go on _ has their wealth come from? i could go on the _ has their wealth come from? i could go on. the average cost per person, was something per person and goes towards _ was something per person and goes towards the event. that is not the point. _ towards the event. that is not the point. we — towards the event. that is not the point, we have to pay for it when peopie _ point, we have to pay for it when people are — point, we have to pay for it when people are struggling. we have a society— people are struggling. we have a society where our schools are failing. — society where our schools are failing, our hospitals are failing, waiting — failing, our hospitals are failing, waiting lists are incredibly long, the money could have been better spent _ the money could have been better spent somewhere else to be honest. 5pent somewhere else to be honest. you are _ 5pent somewhere else to be honest. you are looking at i55ue5 5pent somewhere else to be honest. you are looking at issues that go

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thousands of years of history but they give a — thousands of years of history but they give a lot _ thousands of years of history but they give a lot back. _ thou5and5 of years of history but they give a lot back. they- thousands of years of history but they give a lot back. they are . they give a lot back. they are servants _ they give a lot back. they are servants i_ they give a lot back. they are 5ervant5. i enjoy— they give a lot back. they are 5ervant5. i enjoy watching - they give a lot back. they are . 5ervant5. i enjoy watching them they give a lot back. they are - 5ervant5. i enjoy watching them and what they— 5ervant5. i enjoy watching them and what they do— 5ervant5. i enjoy watching them and what they do for— 5ervant5. i enjoy watching them and what they do for us _ 5ervant5. i enjoy watching them and what they do for us on _ 5ervant5. i enjoy watching them and what they do for us on the _ 5ervant5. i enjoy watching them and what they do for us on the global. what they do for us on the global stage _ what they do for us on the global stage it— what they do for us on the global stare. ., ., .. what they do for us on the global stare. ., stage. if we look at where the wealth of _ stage. if we look at where the wealth of the _ stage. if we look at where the wealth of the royal _ stage. if we look at where the wealth of the royal family - stage. if we look at where the | wealth of the royal family has stage. if we look at where the - wealth of the royal family has come from we _ wealth of the royal family has come from we would uncover unpleasant truths _ from we would uncover unpleasant truth5. they were born into it, i have _ truth5. they were born into it, i have no— truth5. they were born into it, i have no objection to people working hard and _ have no objection to people working hard and earning money for themselves. i do not think you can them5elve5. i do not think you can ievet— themselves. i do not think you can level that — themselves. i do not think you can level that at our royal family to be honest _ level that at our royal family to be honest. what i rail again5t level that at our royal family to be honest. what i rail against is the hone5t. what i rail against is the rank— hone5t. what i rail against is the rank inequality in society where so many _ rank inequality in society where so many have — rank inequality in society where so many have so little and so few have so much _ many have so little and so few have so much. did many have so little and so few have so much. , , ., many have so little and so few have so much. , y., ., . many have so little and so few have so much. , y., .. ., , many have so little and so few have so much. , .. ., ,., so much. did you watch any of the two no, i didn't. _ so much. did you watch any of the two no, i didn't. i— so much. did you watch any of the two no, i didn't. i saw— so much. did you watch any of the two no, i didn't. i saw the - so much. did you watch any of the two no, i didn't. i saw the old - two no, i didn't. i saw the old icture two no, i didn't. i saw the old picture in _ two no, i didn't. i saw the old picture in the _ two no, i didn't. i saw the old picture in the newspaper. - two no, i didn't. i saw the old picture in the newspaper. ? l two no, i didn't. i saw the old i picture in the newspaper. ? how did it make _ picture in the newspaper. ? how did it make you — picture in the newspaper. ? how did it make you feel? angry, the inequality, the unfairness, angry at

the way— inequality, the unfairness, angry at the way our— inequality, the unfairness, angry at the way our country is going in terms — the way our country is going in terms of— the way our country is going in terms of public services and so on. chronic— terms of public services and so on. chronic underinve5tment in our schools. — chronic underinve5tment in our schools, hospitals. in our social services — schools, hospitals. in our social services. and we can still do things 5ervice5. and we can still do things like that _ 5ervice5. and we can still do things like that. our prioritie5 5ervice5. and we can still do things like that. our priorities are way out of— like that. our priorities are way out of line _ like that. our priorities are way out of line. | like that. our priorities are way out of line-— like that. our priorities are way i out of line._ can out of line. i agree with david. can i ask david — out of line. i agree with david. can i ask david one _ out of line. i agree with david. can i ask david one more _ out of line. i agree with david. can i ask david one more question. i i ask david one more question. welcome, everyone, whatever you want to say, you are all welcome. david has articulated very well one side of the argument, like wise marie the other. this is what we are all about. david, what about the argument, we have not quite nailed it? there is a lot of misery going on, the lavish coronation back in the early 1950s was seen as a way to

have a shining bright diamond in the dung heap of austerity. what an elegant phrase! it was a great thing to have, a moment of happiness and togetherness, optimism, a moment of glory in the depressing post war years coming out of that dreadful time, in the 20th century. do you get that? that it that purpose for people? it get that? that it that purpose for --eole? . . get that? that it that purpose for --eole? ,. ., ,, get that? that it that purpose for n-eole? ,., ., people? it is a massive cone. today, eve hint people? it is a massive cone. today, everything is — people? it is a massive cone. today, everything is the _ people? it is a massive cone. today, everything is the same _ people? it is a massive cone. today, everything is the same as _ people? it is a massive cone. today, everything is the same as yesterday. nothing _ everything is the same as yesterday. nothing has really changed. people have had _ nothing has really changed. people have had a day off.— nothing has really changed. people have had a day off. morley, we have heard david's _ have had a day off. morley, we have heard david's views, _ have had a day off. morley, we have heard david's views, gemma - have had a day off. morley, we have heard david's views, gemma and i heard david's views, gemma and bristol, american puma you came all the way from where to watch this?

san francisco. i came all the way from san francisco.— san francisco. i came all the way from san francisco.- i i san francisco. i came all the way from san francisco.- i have| from san francisco. why? i have been a bi fan from san francisco. why? i have been a big fan of— from san francisco. why? i have been a big fan of the _ from san francisco. why? i have been a big fan of the royals _ from san francisco. why? i have been a big fan of the royals for _ from san francisco. why? i have been a big fan of the royal5 for a very a big fan of the royals for a very long time. i worked in politics and still do occasionally in the united states. i have represented former presidents in the role of media relations and i am doing presidential advance work. i have been involved and familiar with putting on incredibly large event like these such as military parades and things of that sort. i was really impressed by the pageantry and the amount of coordination that went on which must�*ve been planned for a very long time. i was very impressed by how it all came together. i was also impressed by the different people that i met,

along the parade route. i met people from germany, from arizona, six people in front of me from arizona, with a british friend. i met a brit who gave me the context of why these things are important. it was very interesting to me to see from an american perspective and to learn other perspectives about it. hagar other perspectives about it. how interesting- _ other perspectives about it. how interesting. what _ other perspectives about it. how interesting. what is _ other per5pective5 about it. how intere5ting. what is your political interesting. what is your political reaction living in a presidential system and having worked for various presidents? those people in this country who say we want to bill clinton, a president 0bama, we want somebody, someone we can get rid of if we don't like them. what do you think about your system as opposed to the system? i

think about your system as opposed to the system?— to the system? i rather like our s stem to the system? i rather like our system but _ to the system? i rather like our system but we _ to the system? i rather like our system but we have _ to the system? i rather like our system but we have our- to the system? i rather like our system but we have our faults l to the system? i rather like our. system but we have our faults as well. as you know, we have had accusations of elections that have been fixed and things like that which we do not really know whether they were or not. we have a democratic system which we admire and we participate in. however, there are good things about the british system too. i think that it's an amazing thing to watch when you have a royal family who is a monarch for the uk lifestyle and for the way people live. to david's point earlier, ifind it interesting his comments were well pointed out, however, if he wants to be an activist and if he wants to write to the royals, i am certain that they will try to help influence those

items that he is frustrated with. i think his royal majesty is trying to modernise the monarchy and trying to get everywhere around the uk and the commonwealth and to that end, i hope that they are able to impact the public relation side of things and public relation side of things and public action side of things in terms of the environment which they care deeply about, and certainly, i think they care about education. and the elderly. that is not lost on them. i do think they could have a little bit more influence and they could use it well.— could use it well. they have to tread very _ could use it well. they have to tread very carefully. _ could use it well. they have to tread very carefully. i - could use it well. they have to tread very carefully. i know. could use it well. they have to i tread very carefully. i know they cannot cross _ tread very carefully. i know they cannot cross political _ tread very carefully. i know they cannot cross political lines i tread very carefully. i know they cannot cross political lines but i cannot cross political lines but they do have influence and they can use their influence to continue the good work they have been doing. he’s

good work they have been doing. he's a man with a — good work they have been doing. he's a man with a social conscience. he i a man with a social conscience. he could start by paying his taxe5. picking — could start by paying his taxe5. picking up _ could start by paying his taxe5. picking up on another thread, recalling _ picking up on another thread, recalling the head of the church who declares _ recalling the head of the church who declares himself a christian, i am not religious, but one quote from the bible. — not religious, but one quote from the bible, a camel not being ea5y not religious, but one quote from the bible, a camel not being easy to pass through the eye of a needle and so forth _ pass through the eye of a needle and so forth i _ pass through the eye of a needle and so forth. .. pass through the eye of a needle and so forth. ~' ., ., , ., ,., so forth. i think theology and some would argue _ so forth. i think theology and some would argue about _ so forth. i think theology and some would argue about covetousness i would argue about covetousness rather than wealth. chosen by god as interesting. do they cleave to that still? i am interesting. do they cleave to that still? iam not interesting. do they cleave to that still? i am not a religious person, michelle, i had a thought, i do have thoughts sometimes and sometimes they are worthless and this probably

is as well. i had this chosen by god thing. if you are theological, surely you have to believe he was chosen by god because if god is omnipotent, god ordains everything, if god does not know what is going to happen and does not ordain thing, he has less than omnipotent. this is an argument from many years ago. he was chosen in the same way i was chosen to do this show. do not take less out of context? michelle, what would you like to see two {30d less out of context? michelle, what would you like to see two— less out of context? michelle, what would you like to see two god has a [an for would you like to see two god has a plan for all — would you like to see two god has a plan for all of _ would you like to see two god has a plan for all of us. _ would you like to see two god has a plan for all of us. full _ would you like to see two god has a plan for all of us. full of _ would you like to see two god has a plan for all of us. full of mystery. i plan for all of us. full of mystery. i do not claim to know everything. nobody does. all i know is god is love. the plan for charles as well as his wonderful mother who served for 17 years. the queen was an amusing head of state and i think

even people who did not know her, who did not relate to her, rather, i have to say that about her, she was amazing and if charles is half as good as the queen, he will be a good king. he has a larger role to play than me, obviously. but he is also a subject to god, and that is how i see it. ~ ., ,. subject to god, and that is how i see it. ~ ., y., subject to god, and that is how i see it. ~ ., ., subject to god, and that is how i see it. ~ ., ,, ., yes, see it. would you bow to him? yes, 'ust in see it. would you bow to him? yes, just in terms — see it. would you bow to him? yes, just in terms of— see it. would you bow to him? yes, just in terms of etiquette. _ see it. would you bow to him? yes, just in terms of etiquette. he - see it. would you bow to him? yes, just in terms of etiquette. he is i just in terms of etiquette. he is serving god the same way that i believe all christians do. he is the head of the church of england, which for me is important because i am a member of the church of england. for

a christian, it was an uplifting christian service in the beautiful westminster abbey and it brought tears to my eyes with the majestic organ, the beautiful singing, everything resonated. do organ, the beautiful singing, everything resonated. do you think it was touched _ everything resonated. do you think it was touched by _ everything resonated. do you think it was touched by the _ everything resonated. do you think it was touched by the divine? i everything resonated. do you think it was touched by the divine? that| it was touched by the divine? that is between — it was touched by the divine? that is between him _ it was touched by the divine? “i'isgt is between him and the lord. i can't answer that because i don't know what goes on in his head. but the whole ceremony, _ what goes on in his head. but the whole ceremony, did _ what goes on in his head. but the whole ceremony, did you - what goes on in his head. but the whole ceremony, did you feel i what goes on in his head. but the whole ceremony, did you feel the presence of god? was there something supernatural about it? yes. but you would bow for a to prince charles. sorry, i keep saying prince charles! king charles. it's unforgivable. would you bow to other members of

the royal family through etiquette? yes. ~ ., ., . ~ yes. would you bow to prince andrew? that's another — yes. would you bow to prince andrew? that's another story. _ yes. would you bow to prince andrew? that's another story. i _ yes. would you bow to prince andrew? that's another story. i am _ that's another story. i am interested _ that's another story. i am interested in _ that's another story. i am interested in the - that's another story. i am i interested in the genuflection. if it's a matter of etiquette to bow to a king or queen or a prince, would you draw the line at andrew? i probably wouldn't bow to andrew. i got you off the fence! he _ probably wouldn't bow to andrew. i got you off the fence! he has i probably wouldn't bow to andrew. i got you off the fence! he has done | got you off the fence! he has done wron: , got you off the fence! he has done wrong. hasn't _ got you off the fence! he has done wrong, hasn't he? _ got you off the fence! he has done wrong, hasn't he? we _ got you off the fence! he has done wrong, hasn't he? we have - got you off the fence! he has done wrong, hasn't he? we have to i wrong, hasn't he? we have to remember that kings, queens and monarchs canjust as remember that kings, queens and monarchs can just as easily make mistakes as the rest of us. we are all sinners and nobody is perfect. you can't expect him or anybody else to be perfect. it’s you can't expect him or anybody else to be perfect-— to be perfect. it's great getting a reliuious to be perfect. it's great getting a

religious take _ to be perfect. it's great getting a religious take on _ to be perfect. it's great getting a religious take on this _ to be perfect. it's great getting a religious take on this from i to be perfect. it's great getting a - religious take on this from somebody with faith. michelle, thank you. it was steeped in religion. at the heart of it was the supernatural. another one, it was spine tingling and ifeel sorry for the bitter and twisted republicans. the king is a good man, head of state to be proud of. john in southend. king charles was overwhelmed by the solemnity of the situation. he was not glum, says ian in perth. i didn't watch, the whole idea of the monarchy is an affront to anybody who believes in autocracy. i think i have read that one, but it is quite symptomatic of what we are hearing on both sides —— it is an affront to anybody who believes in meritocracy. here is the news. volunteering events are being held across the uk to mark the final

day of the coronation bank holiday weekend. around 50,000 events will form the "big help out" — aimed at creating a "lasting volunteering legacy of the king's crowning". the metropolitan police now says it arrested 64 people in london on saturday, ahead of the coronation. most of them were on suspicion of conspiring to cause a public nuisance. four people have been charged and will appear in court later today. us media are reporting that a gunman who shot dead eight people in texas on saturday had links to far right groups. the 33—year—old was killed by police in a dallas suburb. this year's eurovision song contest kicked off last night with an opening concert featuring the very brief reunion of frankie goes to hollywood. they came on together for the first time in 36 years, played welcome to the pleasure dome, said a brief goodbye, then walked off. katie smith has the sport. arsenal boss mikel arteta says he showed his players footage of them losing to newcastle last season because he wanted them to remember the feeling of not doing enough.

well, it must have worked — they beat newcastle 2—0 to move back within a point of manchester city at the top of the table. ange postecoglou admits he was worried his celtic side may lack hunger to repeat their scottish premiership title—winning feat of last season. they retained their trophy with four games to spare after beating 10 man hearts 2—0 and are a win away from an 8th treble. max verstappen extended his lead in the fi standings to ilipts after an impressive win at the miami grand prix, where he started 9th on the grid — his red bull teammate sergio perez was second. and great britain won 14 medals at the second para—cycling road world cup of the season in belgium — with 7 golds including two apiece for fin graham and fran brown who both won the road race and time trial in their classes.

coming up at ten, our conversation continues. it is an event that means so much to so many, notjust here but across the world. there are some people who are cynical about it. it has its naysayers, but forget them. we are talking about eurovision. at ten o'clock, we have got a eurovision team of experts, a pop—up panel to talk you through everything you want to know and answer your

questions and get you in the eurovision party mood. what makes eurovision party mood. what makes eurovision a winner? it is a huge event, acts arriving in liverpool today. what a superb place to have it, the epicentre of british musical culture and history. a whole week of music and pop magic, building up to saturday's grand final. with me from 10 will be nicki french — she was the uk's entry in 2000, pauljordan, aka dr eurovision, and mans zelmerlow, who won eurovision for sweden in 2015. he hosted it the following year. what do you want to ask them? what

makes eurovision a winner? gemma is in bristol. we have got charlotte coming up as well. and caroline aston, a royal commentator and features writer at majesty magazine. i sense an interest in all this. caroline, welcome. interest in all this. caroline, welcome-— interest in all this. caroline, | welcome._ on interest in all this. caroline, - welcome._ on the day welcome. good morning. on the day after the night _ welcome. good morning. on the day after the night before. _ welcome. good morning. on the day after the night before. what - welcome. good morning. on the day after the night before. what does i welcome. good morning. on the day after the night before. what does it| after the night before. what does it mean? what does it say about who we are and where we are going? what mean? what does it say about who we are and where we are going?— are and where we are going? what it sa s about are and where we are going? what it says about where _ are and where we are going? what it says about where we _ are and where we are going? what it says about where we have _ are and where we are going? what it says about where we have come - are and where we are going? what it| says about where we have come from is the _

says about where we have come from is the fact _ says about where we have come from is the fact that — says about where we have come from is the fact that the _ says about where we have come from is the fact that the coronation - says about where we have come from is the fact that the coronation was . is the fact that the coronation was a historic— is the fact that the coronation was a historic event, _ is the fact that the coronation was a historic event, the _ is the fact that the coronation was a historic event, the 40th - is the fact that the coronation was| a historic event, the 40th monarch to he _ a historic event, the 40th monarch to be crowned _ a historic event, the 40th monarch to be crowned in _ a historic event, the 40th monarch to be crowned in westminster- a historic event, the 40th monarch. to be crowned in westminster abbey and i am _ to be crowned in westminster abbey and i am going— to be crowned in westminster abbey and i am going back— to be crowned in westminster abbey and i am going back to— to be crowned in westminster abbey and i am going back to william - to be crowned in westminster abbey and i am going back to william the l and i am going back to william the first in_ and i am going back to william the first in1066~ — and i am going back to william the first in 1066. yesterday's - first in 1066. yesterday's coronation _ first in 1066. yesterday's coronation was _ first in 1066. yesterday's coronation was about. first in 1066. yesterday's coronation was about the first in 1066. yesterday's - coronation was about the past, first in 1066. yesterday's _ coronation was about the past, with elemerrts— coronation was about the past, with elements of— coronation was about the past, with elements of the _ coronation was about the past, with elements of the present _ coronation was about the past, with elements of the present coming - coronation was about the past, with| elements of the present coming into it, elements of the present coming into it. the _ elements of the present coming into it, the public— elements of the present coming into it, the public recognition— elements of the present coming into it, the public recognition of- elements of the present coming into it, the public recognition of the - it, the public recognition of the king. _ it, the public recognition of the king. who _ it, the public recognition of the king. who of— it, the public recognition of the king, who of course _ it, the public recognition of the king, who of course has - it, the public recognition of the king, who of course has been i it, the public recognition of the i king, who of course has been king since _ king, who of course has been king since september— king, who of course has been king since september the _ king, who of course has been king since september the 8th, - king, who of course has been king since september the 8th, when. king, who of course has been kingi since september the 8th, when his mother— since september the 8th, when his mother died~ — since september the 8th, when his mother died. and _ since september the 8th, when his mother died. and going _ since september the 8th, when his mother died. and going forward, . since september the 8th, when his i mother died. and going forward, the inclusivity. _ mother died. and going forward, the inclusivity. the — mother died. and going forward, the inclusivity, the blend _ mother died. and going forward, the inclusivity, the blend of— mother died. and going forward, the inclusivity, the blend of modern - inclusivity, the blend of modern with old — inclusivity, the blend of modern with old that _ inclusivity, the blend of modern with old that was _ inclusivity, the blend of modern with old that was present - inclusivity, the blend of modern with old that was present in - inclusivity, the blend of modern with old that was present in the| with old that was present in the ceremony _ with old that was present in the ceremony. that— with old that was present in the ceremony. that is— with old that was present in the ceremony. that is indicative - with old that was present in the ceremony. that is indicative ofl with old that was present in the . ceremony. that is indicative of his view— ceremony. that is indicative of his view of— ceremony. that is indicative of his view of what — ceremony. that is indicative of his view of what the _ ceremony. that is indicative of his view of what the future _ ceremony. that is indicative of his view of what the future must - ceremony. that is indicative of his view of what the future must be . ceremony. that is indicative of his view of what the future must be —| view of what the future must be — more _ view of what the future must be — more transparency, _ view of what the future must be — more transparency, inclusivity - view of what the future must be —| more transparency, inclusivity and openness, — more transparency, inclusivity and openness, a — more transparency, inclusivity and openness, a monarch— more transparency, inclusivity and openness, a monarch who - more transparency, inclusivity and i openness, a monarch who represents more transparency, inclusivity and - openness, a monarch who represents a very different _ openness, a monarch who represents a very different society— openness, a monarch who represents a very different society to _ openness, a monarch who represents a very different society to the _ openness, a monarch who represents a very different society to the one - very different society to the one that our — very different society to the one that our late _ very different society to the one that our late queen— very different society to the one that our late queen was - very different society to the one | that our late queen was crowned very different society to the one - that our late queen was crowned over in 1955 _ that our late queen was crowned over in 1955 how— that our late queen was crowned over in 1955 how to— that our late queen was crowned over in 1953. how to do _ that our late queen was crowned over in 1953. how to do it? _ that our late queen was crowned over in 1953. how to do it? that— that our late queen was crowned over in 1953. how to do it? that is- that our late queen was crowned over in 1953. how to do it? that is where l in 1953. how to do it? that is where the debate — in 1953. how to do it? that is where the debate is — in1953. how to do it? that is where the debate is. do— in1953. how to do it? that is where the debate is— the debate is. do we do this better than anyone _ the debate is. do we do this better than anyone else _ the debate is. do we do this better than anyone else in _ the debate is. do we do this better than anyone else in the _ the debate is. do we do this better than anyone else in the world? - the debate is. do we do this better than anyone else in the world? it l the debate is. do we do this better| than anyone else in the world? it is a phrase i heard so much over the

weekend. i a phrase i heard so much over the weekend. ., , , . weekend. i would say pretty much, but we have _ weekend. i would say pretty much, but we have had _ weekend. i would say pretty much, but we have had a _ weekend. i would say pretty much, but we have had a lot _ weekend. i would say pretty much, but we have had a lot of _ weekend. i would say pretty much, but we have had a lot of practice. l but we have had a lot of practice. the glitter, — but we have had a lot of practice. the glitter, the _ but we have had a lot of practice. the glitter, the gold, _ but we have had a lot of practice. the glitter, the gold, the - but we have had a lot of practice. the glitter, the gold, the regalial the glitter, the gold, the regalia fronr _ the glitter, the gold, the regalia from the — the glitter, the gold, the regalia from the dual— the glitter, the gold, the regalia from the dual house. _ the glitter, the gold, the regalia from the dual house. all- the glitter, the gold, the regalia from the dual house. all the - the glitter, the gold, the regalial from the dual house. all the stuff the world — from the dual house. all the stuff the world loves _ from the dual house. all the stuff the world loves to _ from the dual house. all the stuff the world loves to watch. - from the dual house. all the stuff the world loves to watch. and - from the dual house. all the stuff the world loves to watch. and ofl the world loves to watch. and of course, — the world loves to watch. and of course, there _ the world loves to watch. and of course, there has— the world loves to watch. and of course, there has been- the world loves to watch. and of course, there has been a - the world loves to watch. and of course, there has been a lot - the world loves to watch. and of course, there has been a lot of. course, there has been a lot of debate — course, there has been a lot of debate about _ course, there has been a lot of debate about the _ course, there has been a lot of debate about the cost, - course, there has been a lot of. debate about the cost, particularly in terms _ debate about the cost, particularly in terms of— debate about the cost, particularly in terms of security. _ debate about the cost, particularly in terms of security. it _ debate about the cost, particularly in terms of security. it is - debate about the cost, particularly in terms of security. it is also - in terms of security. it is also reckoned _ in terms of security. it is also reckoned that _ in terms of security. it is also reckoned that around - in terms of security. it is also reckoned that around £1- in terms of security. it is also. reckoned that around £1 billion in terms of security. it is also - reckoned that around £1 billion will pour into _ reckoned that around £1 billion will pour into the — reckoned that around £1 billion will pour into the national _ reckoned that around £1 billion will pour into the national coffers - reckoned that around £1 billion will pour into the national coffers by. pour into the national coffers by way of _ pour into the national coffers by way of balance. _ pour into the national coffers by way of balance. the _ pour into the national coffers by way of balance. the world - pour into the national coffers by way of balance. the world is - pour into the national coffers byl way of balance. the world is very interested — way of balance. the world is very interested. there _ way of balance. the world is very interested. there is— way of balance. the world is very interested. there is a _ way of balance. the world is veryl interested. there is a commercial value _ interested. there is a commercial value to _ interested. there is a commercial value to it— interested. there is a commercial value to it and _ interested. there is a commercial value to it and for— interested. there is a commercial value to it and for me _ interested. there is a commercial value to it and for me as- interested. there is a commercial value to it and for me as a - value to it and for me as a historian. _ value to it and for me as a historian. a _ value to it and for me as a historian, a moment- value to it and for me as a historian, a moment of. value to it and for me as a - historian, a moment of supreme pride _ historian, a moment of supreme ride. ~ . historian, a moment of supreme ride, . ., ., historian, a moment of supreme ride. ~ . ., ., ~ pride. what about those who think it 'ust looked pride. what about those who think it just looked a — pride. what about those who think it just looked a bit _ pride. what about those who think it just looked a bit silly? _ pride. what about those who think it just looked a bit silly? well, - pride. what about those who think it just looked a bit silly? well, i - just looked a bit silly? well, i su ose just looked a bit silly? well, i sunpose things _ just looked a bit silly? well, i suppose things that _ just looked a bit silly? well, i suppose things that go - just looked a bit silly? well, i suppose things that go back | just looked a bit silly? well, i - suppose things that go back 1000 suppose things that go back1000 years. _ suppose things that go back1000 years, elements _ suppose things that go back1000 years, elements of— suppose things that go back1000 years, elements of it— suppose things that go back1000 years, elements of it are - suppose things that go back1000 years, elements of it are silly. . years, elements of it are silly. sitting — years, elements of it are silly. sitting there _ years, elements of it are silly. sitting there with _ years, elements of it are silly. sitting there with a _ years, elements of it are silly. sitting there with a linen - years, elements of it are silly. sitting there with a linen shirt| years, elements of it are silly. - sitting there with a linen shirt and the holy oil. from that point of view, i have heard this. i the holy oil. from that point of view, i have heard this.- the holy oil. from that point of view, i have heard this. i am sure ou view, i have heard this. i am sure you have- — view, i have heard this. i am sure you have- but— view, i have heard this. i am sure you have. but if— view, i have heard this. i am sure you have. but if you _ view, i have heard this. i am sure you have. but if you understand l view, i have heard this. i am sure l you have. but if you understand the

significance — you have. but if you understand the significance of— you have. but if you understand the significance of these, _ you have. but if you understand the significance of these, as _ you have. but if you understand the significance of these, as i _ you have. but if you understand the significance of these, as i say, - you have. but if you understand the significance of these, as i say, it. significance of these, as i say, it is part— significance of these, as i say, it is part of— significance of these, as i say, it is part of a — significance of these, as i say, it is part of a historic— significance of these, as i say, it is part of a historic ceremony- significance of these, as i say, it. is part of a historic ceremony that has developed _ is part of a historic ceremony that has developed over— is part of a historic ceremony that has developed over 1000 - is part of a historic ceremony that has developed over 1000 years, i is part of a historic ceremony that i has developed over 1000 years, so is part of a historic ceremony that . has developed over 1000 years, so it does have _ has developed over 1000 years, so it does have meaning _ has developed over 1000 years, so it does have meaning even _ has developed over 1000 years, so it does have meaning even though- has developed over 1000 years, so it does have meaning even though for. does have meaning even though for me, does have meaning even though for me. that _ does have meaning even though for me, that moment— does have meaning even though for me, that moment of— does have meaning even though for me, that moment of the _ does have meaning even though for me, that moment of the anointing i does have meaning even though for. me, that moment of the anointing of the king. _ me, that moment of the anointing of the king. who — me, that moment of the anointing of the king. who i — me, that moment of the anointing of the king, who i thought— me, that moment of the anointing of the king, who i thought looked - me, that moment of the anointing of the king, who i thought looked every year of— the king, who i thought looked every year of his— the king, who i thought looked every year of his almost _ the king, who i thought looked every year of his almost 75— the king, who i thought looked every year of his almost 75 years _ the king, who i thought looked every year of his almost 75 years of - the king, who i thought looked every year of his almost 75 years of age, i year of his almost 75 years of age, he is _ year of his almost 75 years of age, he is the _ year of his almost 75 years of age, he is the oldest _ year of his almost 75 years of age, he is the oldest monarch- year of his almost 75 years of age, he is the oldest monarch after- year of his almost 75 years of age, he is the oldest monarch after the| he is the oldest monarch after the longest— he is the oldest monarch after the longest waiting _ he is the oldest monarch after the longest waiting time, _ he is the oldest monarch after the longest waiting time, he - he is the oldest monarch after the longest waiting time, he looked . longest waiting time, he looked incredibly— longest waiting time, he looked incredibly vulnerable, _ longest waiting time, he looked incredibly vulnerable, stripped i longest waiting time, he looked i incredibly vulnerable, stripped of the crowns — incredibly vulnerable, stripped of the crowns and _ incredibly vulnerable, stripped of the crowns and the _ incredibly vulnerable, stripped of the crowns and the ermine - incredibly vulnerable, stripped of the crowns and the ermine and l incredibly vulnerable, stripped of. the crowns and the ermine and the velvet _ the crowns and the ermine and the velvet he — the crowns and the ermine and the velvet. he looked _ the crowns and the ermine and the velvet. he looked humbled. - the crowns and the ermine and the velvet. he looked humbled. therel the crowns and the ermine and the . velvet. he looked humbled. there has been a _ velvet. he looked humbled. there has been a lot— velvet. he looked humbled. there has been a lot of— velvet. he looked humbled. there has been a lot of comment _ velvet. he looked humbled. there has been a lot of comment about - velvet. he looked humbled. there has been a lot of comment about queen . been a lot of comment about queen camillas— been a lot of comment about queen camilla's demeanour. _ been a lot of comment about queen camilla's demeanour. did _ been a lot of comment about queen camilla's demeanour. did she - been a lot of comment about queen camilla's demeanour. did she look. camilla's demeanour. did she look overwhelmed? _ camilla's demeanour. did she look overwhelmed? yes, _ camilla's demeanour. did she look overwhelmed? yes, at _ camilla's demeanour. did she look overwhelmed? yes, at times. - camilla's demeanour. did she look overwhelmed? yes, at times. i- camilla's demeanour. did she look. overwhelmed? yes, at times. iwould be in _ overwhelmed? yes, at times. iwould be in her— overwhelmed? yes, at times. iwould be in her place — overwhelmed? yes, at times. iwould be in her place. there _ overwhelmed? yes, at times. iwould be in her place. there has _ overwhelmed? yes, at times. iwould be in her place. there has been - overwhelmed? yes, at times. iwould be in her place. there has been a - be in her place. there has been a lot of— be in her place. there has been a lot of rehashing _ be in her place. there has been a lot of rehashing of _ be in her place. there has been a lot of rehashing of the _ be in her place. there has been a lot of rehashing of the more - lot of rehashing of the more difficult _ lot of rehashing of the more difficult elements— lot of rehashing of the more difficult elements in - lot of rehashing of the more difficult elements in the - lot of rehashing of the more | difficult elements in the lives lot of rehashing of the more - difficult elements in the lives of these _ difficult elements in the lives of these two — difficult elements in the lives of these two people, _ difficult elements in the lives of these two people, and - difficult elements in the lives of these two people, and that - difficult elements in the lives ofi these two people, and that must difficult elements in the lives of- these two people, and that must have been at _ these two people, and that must have been at the _ these two people, and that must have been at the forefront _ these two people, and that must have been at the forefront of _ these two people, and that must have been at the forefront of both - these two people, and that must have been at the forefront of both their - been at the forefront of both their minds _ been at the forefront of both their minds with— been at the forefront of both their minds with this _ been at the forefront of both their minds with this public _ been at the forefront of both their minds with this public exposure. i been at the forefront of both their . minds with this public exposure. we are a _ minds with this public exposure. we are a democracy _ minds with this public exposure. we are a democracy. you _ minds with this public exposure. we are a democracy. you pay— minds with this public exposure. we are a democracy. you pay for- minds with this public exposure. we are a democracy. you pay for your. are a democracy. you pay for your money— are a democracy. you pay for your money and — are a democracy. you pay for your money and take _ are a democracy. you pay for your money and take your _ are a democracy. you pay for your money and take your choice. - are a democracy. you pay for your money and take your choice. youl are a democracy. you pay for your.

money and take your choice. you are 'ust money and take your choice. you are just as _ money and take your choice. you are just as entitled — money and take your choice. you are just as entitled to _ money and take your choice. you are just as entitled to want _ money and take your choice. you are just as entitled to want a _ money and take your choice. you are just as entitled to want a republic. i just as entitled to want a republic. up just as entitled to want a republic. up to _ just as entitled to want a republic. up to 25% — just as entitled to want a republic. up to 25% of— just as entitled to want a republic. up to 25% of people _ just as entitled to want a republic. up to 25% of people do. _ just as entitled to want a republic. up to 25% of people do. you - just as entitled to want a republic. up to 25% of people do. you are l up to 25% of people do. you are entitled — up to 25% of people do. you are entitled to — up to 25% of people do. you are entitled to not _ up to 25% of people do. you are entitled to not care. _ up to 25% of people do. you are entitled to not care. do - up to 25% of people do. you are entitled to not care.— up to 25% of people do. you are entitled to not care. do you condemn the arrests? — entitled to not care. do you condemn the arrests? i — entitled to not care. do you condemn the arrests? i am _ entitled to not care. do you condemn the arrests? i am a _ entitled to not care. do you condemn the arrests? i am a bit _ entitled to not care. do you condemn the arrests? i am a bit worried - the arrests? i am a bit worried about the _ the arrests? i am a bit worried about the scale _ the arrests? i am a bit worried about the scale of— the arrests? i am a bit worried about the scale of them, - the arrests? i am a bit worried about the scale of them, but l the arrests? i am a bit worried | about the scale of them, but in another— about the scale of them, but in another sense, _ about the scale of them, but in another sense, that _ about the scale of them, but in another sense, that is - about the scale of them, but in another sense, that is the - another sense, that is the difference _ another sense, that is the difference between - another sense, that is the difference between now. another sense, that is the l difference between now and another sense, that is the - difference between now and 1953, when _ difference between now and 1953, when there — difference between now and 1953, when there was _ difference between now and 1953, when there was innate _ difference between now and 1953, when there was innate respect - difference between now and 1953, when there was innate respect for anything — when there was innate respect for anything royal~ _ when there was innate respect for anything royal. not— when there was innate respect for anything royal. not so— when there was innate respect for anything royal. not so now. - when there was innate respect for anything royal. not so now. theyl anything royal. not so now. they have _ anything royal. not so now. they have to _ anything royal. not so now. they have to be — anything royal. not so now. they have to be seen _ anything royal. not so now. they have to be seen to _ anything royal. not so now. they have to be seen to be _ anything royal. not so now. they have to be seen to be believed. i anything royal. not so now. they- have to be seen to be believed. they are a _ have to be seen to be believed. they are a target— have to be seen to be believed. they are a target for— have to be seen to be believed. they are a target for terrorists, _ have to be seen to be believed. they are a target for terrorists, so - have to be seen to be believed. they are a target for terrorists, so of - are a target for terrorists, so of course — are a target for terrorists, so of course security— are a target for terrorists, so of course security was _ are a target for terrorists, so ofj course security was paramount, are a target for terrorists, so of - course security was paramount, which was why— course security was paramount, which was why there — course security was paramount, which was why there was _ course security was paramount, which was why there was such _ course security was paramount, which was why there was such a _ course security was paramount, which was why there was such a big - course security was paramount, which was why there was such a big cost. i was why there was such a big cost. so i am _ was why there was such a big cost. so i am not — was why there was such a big cost. so i am not surprised. _ was why there was such a big cost. so i am not surprised. a— was why there was such a big cost. so i am not surprised. a little - so i am not surprised. a little perturbed. _ so i am not surprised. a little perturbed, because _ so i am not surprised. a little perturbed, because there - so i am not surprised. a little perturbed, because there is l so i am not surprised. a little perturbed, because there is a so i am not surprised. a little - perturbed, because there is a right to demonstrate _ perturbed, because there is a right to demonstrate which _ perturbed, because there is a right to demonstrate which is _ perturbed, because there is a right to demonstrate which is very - perturbed, because there is a right to demonstrate which is very much perturbed, because there is a right. to demonstrate which is very much we have fought _ to demonstrate which is very much we have fought for — to demonstrate which is very much we have fought for over— to demonstrate which is very much we have fought for over many— to demonstrate which is very much we have fought for over many centuries. yes, have fought for over many centuries. yes. caroline — have fought for over many centuries. yes, caroline. gemma, _ have fought for over many centuries. yes, caroline. gemma, money- have fought for over many centuries. yes, caroline. gemma, money well. yes, caroline. gemma, money well spent? i yes, caroline. gemma, money well

sent? ., �* ~' yes, caroline. gemma, money well sent? ., �* ,, ., yes, caroline. gemma, money well sent? ., �* ~' ., ., yes, caroline. gemma, money well sent? ., �* ,, ., ., ., spent? i don't think so. i am one of the people — spent? i don't think so. i am one of the people who _ spent? i don't think so. i am one of the people who had _ spent? i don't think so. i am one of the people who had to _ spent? i don't think so. i am one of the people who had to watch - spent? i don't think so. i am one of the people who had to watch it - the people who had to watch it because i was at work and i work with people that wanted to watch it. and there were things that were nice. princess cake looks beautiful and charlotte looked beautiful. but generally, the whole thing was wearing. i don't get it. i don't understand why the money had to be spent. the main reason that i see people suffering every day is because they are having to make decisions about where to spend their money. so to decisions about where to spend their money. soto seal this gold and money. soto seal this gold and money being paraded around when down the road, i know there are people starving and homeless from where this happened, it is a bit weird. some people thought it was a bit silly with the crowns and the anointing. is that what you mean?

yeah. , , . , anointing. is that what you mean? yeah. , .,, r. anointing. is that what you mean? yeah. , . , ~ . ., yeah. just a bit alice through the lookin: yeah. just a bit alice through the looking glass — yeah. just a bit alice through the looking glass i _ yeah. just a bit alice through the looking glass. i felt _ yeah. just a bit alice through the looking glass. i felt bizarre - looking glass. i felt bizarre watching- _ looking glass. i felt bizarre watching. if— looking glass. i felt bizarre watching. if i _ looking glass. i felt bizarre watching. if i wasn't - looking glass. i felt bizarre watching. if i wasn't at - looking glass. i felt bizarre l watching. if i wasn't at work, looking glass. i felt bizarre . watching. if i wasn't at work, i would never have chosen to watch it. it was weird. like i said, there were bits that i liked. the choir were bits that i liked. the choir were lovely. but when they covered him up and blocked the view from everyone and whatever, i do represent how a lot of people my age feel and we don't understand it. people keep saying it is bringing money to the economy. where is the actual figure for that? money to the economy. where is the actualfigure for that? i know people have visited and i know london has had a lot of visitors this weekend, but where is the evidence that king charles is going to provide £1 billion of money for us? people are suffering and we

don't need to watch rich people doing all this.— don't need to watch rich people doing all this. andrew is dying to come in, gemma. _ doing all this. andrew is dying to come in, gemma. sorry. - doing all this. andrew is dying to come in, gemma. sorry. don't. come in, gemma. sorry. don't apologise! — come in, gemma. sorry. don't apologise! andrew— come in, gemma. sorry. don't apologise! andrew and - come in, gemma. sorry. don't. apologise! andrew and charlotte, meet gemma, who likes bits of it. she did mention penny mordaunt. but she thought it was a bit silly. iii. she thought it was a bit silly. hi, gemma. she thought it was a bit silly. hi, gemma- how— she thought it was a bit silly. hi, gemma. how are you doing? i am from ghana _ gemma. how are you doing? i am from ghana i— gemma. how are you doing? i am from ghana iwas— gemma. how are you doing? i am from ghana iwasat— gemma. how are you doing? i am from ghana. i was at buckingham palace on saturday— ghana. i was at buckingham palace on saturday with my wife and three children — saturday with my wife and three children who are 11, 13 and 15. yesterday _ children who are 11, 13 and 15. yesterday, me and my wife were at windsor _ yesterday, me and my wife were at windsor castle. gemma, iwent

windsor castle. gemma, i went there and i got _ windsor castle. gemma, i went there and i got my— windsor castle. gemma, i went there and i got my life back. i am saying this because it was so amazing. as a mental— this because it was so amazing. as a mental health campaigner, this environment was so charging. i agree with environment was so charging. i agree with you _ environment was so charging. i agree with you 100%, there should be accountability. i believe people travelled from near and far to come. i bought— travelled from near and far to come. i bought an — travelled from near and far to come. i bought an underground ticket. i bought— i bought an underground ticket. i bought food, and this created jobs and money for someone. it is not going _ and money for someone. it is not going into — and money for someone. it is not going into the monarch's pocket, it is going into the monarch's pocket, it

is going _ going into the monarch's pocket, it is going to — going into the monarch's pocket, it is going to individuals' pockets was to iook— is going to individuals' pockets was to look at— is going to individuals' pockets was to look at the music and the atmosphere. people are lonely. i believe _ atmosphere. people are lonely. i believe this was the true identity of people — believe this was the true identity of people because anywhere you go, they don't— of people because anywhere you go, they don't ask about the prime minister~ — they don't ask about the prime minister. the king, the queen, the monarch _ minister. the king, the queen, the monarch if— minister. the king, the queen, the monarch. if you do it well, it will benefit _ monarch. if you do it well, it will benefit all— monarch. if you do it well, it will benefit all of us.— benefit all of us. you mentioned mental health _ benefit all of us. you mentioned mental health and _ benefit all of us. you mentioned mental health and these - benefit all of us. you mentioned mental health and these are - mental health and these are challenging times for people. the last four years have been horrendous. you felt a tremendous positivity and a coming together and spontaneous happiness, andrew? yeah. there were some _ spontaneous happiness, andrew? yeah. there were some young _ spontaneous happiness, andrew? yeah. there were some young ladies that spoke _ there were some young ladies that spoke to— there were some young ladies that spoke to my wife. my wife is a

midwife — spoke to my wife. my wife is a midwife and they said they would like to— midwife and they said they would like to do— midwife and they said they would like to do a midwifery course. that was the love that we need. i never— that was the love that we need. i never knew — that was the love that we need. i never knew them. they were happy to look at _ never knew them. they were happy to look at my _ never knew them. they were happy to look at my facebook and youtube page and they— look at my facebook and youtube page and they are _ look at my facebook and youtube page and they are following me for my campaign — and they are following me for my campaign on mental health. a campaign on mental health. stranger is my friend, what about that, luke? stranger is my friend, what about that. luke?— stranger is my friend, what about that, luke? ., , ~ that, luke? personally, ithink the r0 als that, luke? personally, ithink the royals take _ that, luke? personally, ithink the royals take more _ that, luke? personally, ithink the royals take more from _ that, luke? personally, ithink the royals take more from society - that, luke? personally, ithink the| royals take more from society than they give _ royals take more from society than they give it's — royals take more from society than they give. it's ridiculous _ royals take more from society than they give. it's ridiculous that - royals take more from society than they give. it's ridiculous that it - they give. it's ridiculous that it is they give. it's ridiculous that it is 2023 — they give. it's ridiculous that it is 2023 and _ they give. it's ridiculous that it is 2023 and you _ they give. it's ridiculous that it is 2023 and you have - they give. it's ridiculous that it is 2023 and you have one - they give. it's ridiculous that it is 2023 and you have one of. they give. it's ridiculous that it| is 2023 and you have one of the wealthiest — is 2023 and you have one of the wealthiest families— is 2023 and you have one of the wealthiest families in _ is 2023 and you have one of the wealthiest families in the - is 2023 and you have one of the| wealthiest families in the world, but we _ wealthiest families in the world, but we still— wealthiest families in the world, but we still pay— wealthiest families in the world, but we still pay the _ wealthiest families in the world, but we still pay the bill - wealthiest families in the world, but we still pay the bill for - wealthiest families in the world, but we still pay the bill for a - but we still pay the bill for a coronation. _ but we still pay the bill for a coronation. and _ but we still pay the bill for a coronation. and the - but we still pay the bill for a coronation. and the other. but we still pay the bill for a - coronation. and the other things, the security— coronation. and the other things, the security and _ coronation. and the other things, the security and the _ coronation. and the other things, the security and the upkeep - coronation. and the other things, the security and the upkeep of. coronation. and the other things, i the security and the upkeep of the palaces. _ the security and the upkeep of the palaces. it — the security and the upkeep of the palaces. it is— the security and the upkeep of the palaces, it is out _ the security and the upkeep of the palaces, it is out of— the security and the upkeep of the palaces, it is out of taste - the security and the upkeep of the palaces, it is out of taste and - the security and the upkeep of the palaces, it is out of taste and it. palaces, it is out of taste and it needs— palaces, it is out of taste and it needs to — palaces, it is out of taste and it needs to change. _ palaces, it is out of taste and it needs to change. but— palaces, it is out of taste and it needs to change.— palaces, it is out of taste and it needs to change. but you 'ust heard from andrew— needs to change. but you 'ust heard from andrew about _ needs to change. but you 'ust heard from andrew about the _ needs to change. but you just heard from andrew about the happiness. l needs to change. but you just heard i from andrew about the happiness. can i come back in again? go _

from andrew about the happiness. can i come back in again? go on. - from andrew about the happiness. can i come back in again? go on. it- from andrew about the happiness. can i come back in again? go on. it made i i come back in again? go on. it made so many people _ i come back in again? go on. it made so many people are _ i come back in again? go on. it made so many people are so _ i come back in again? go on. it made so many people are so happy, - i come back in again? go on. it made so many people are so happy, you i so many people are so happy, you heard from andrew, gemma. first of all, i like listening _ heard from andrew, gemma. first of all, i like listening to _ heard from andrew, gemma. first of all, i like listening to you _ heard from andrew, gemma. first of all, i like listening to you speak, - all, i like listening to you speak, andrew. you sound like an amazing person. foryou andrew. you sound like an amazing person. for you and for many people, the coronation would have brought those feelings, but we cannot deny that for many people, the coronation has brought a lot of bad feelings because they didn't have the privilege to go and be in with all the camaraderie. they couldn't do that. of course, for many, it has done good. but i agree with what luke said. it is not going to outweigh the poverty that people are going through. a ceremony is never going through. a ceremony is never going to change that. i can

understand _ going to change that. i can understand getting - going to change that. i can understand getting carried| going to change that. i can understand getting carried away with the occasion— understand getting carried away with the occasion and _ understand getting carried away with the occasion and the _ understand getting carried away with the occasion and the joy, _ understand getting carried away with the occasion and the joy, but - understand getting carried away with the occasion and the joy, but we - the occasion and the joy, but we have _ the occasion and the joy, but we have people _ the occasion and the joy, but we have people in _ the occasion and the joy, but we have people in this _ the occasion and the joy, but we have people in this country- the occasion and the joy, but we have people in this country whol the occasion and the joy, but we i have people in this country who are suffering. _ have people in this country who are suffering. who— have people in this country who are suffering, who can't _ have people in this country who are suffering, who can't afford - have people in this country who are suffering, who can't afford to - have people in this country who are suffering, who can't afford to eat. suffering, who can't afford to eat or heat _ suffering, who can't afford to eat or heat their _ suffering, who can't afford to eat or heat their homes, _ suffering, who can't afford to eat or heat their homes, and - suffering, who can't afford to eat or heat their homes, and we - suffering, who can't afford to eati or heat their homes, and we have suffering, who can't afford to eat. or heat their homes, and we have a man going — or heat their homes, and we have a man going down _ or heat their homes, and we have a man going down a _ or heat their homes, and we have a man going down a road _ or heat their homes, and we have a man going down a road in - or heat their homes, and we have a man going down a road in a - or heat their homes, and we have a| man going down a road in a carriage worth— man going down a road in a carriage worth £55— man going down a road in a carriage worth £3.5 million. _ man going down a road in a carriage worth £3.5 million. it— man going down a road in a carriage worth £3.5 million.— worth £3.5 million. it doesn't make sense. worth £3.5 million. it doesn't make sense- can — worth £3.5 million. it doesn't make sense- can i— worth £3.5 million. it doesn't make sense. can i ask _ worth £3.5 million. it doesn't make sense. can i ask a _ worth £3.5 million. it doesn't make sense. can i ask a question - worth £3.5 million. it doesn't make sense. can i ask a question to - sense. can i ask a question to nicky? — sense. can i ask a question to nicky? just a quick one. if we abolish— nicky? just a quick one. if we abolish this monarch, are we going to have _ abolish this monarch, are we going to have people going through mental and financial problems, or is everything going to be beautiful? well. _ everything going to be beautiful? well. if— everything going to be beautiful? well, if we abolish the monarchy and the money— well, if we abolish the monarchy and the money that— well, if we abolish the monarchy and the money that we _ well, if we abolish the monarchy and the money that we give _ well, if we abolish the monarchy and the money that we give the - well, if we abolish the monarchy and| the money that we give the monarchy every— the money that we give the monarchy every year. _ the money that we give the monarchy every year. which _ the money that we give the monarchy every year, which is _ the money that we give the monarchy every year, which is hundreds- the money that we give the monarchy every year, which is hundreds of- every year, which is hundreds of millions— every year, which is hundreds of millions of— every year, which is hundreds of millions of pounds _ every year, which is hundreds of millions of pounds from - every year, which is hundreds of. millions of pounds from taxpayers, we could _ millions of pounds from taxpayers, we could put — millions of pounds from taxpayers, we could put that _ millions of pounds from taxpayers, we could put that towards - millions of pounds from taxpayers, we could put that towards causes l millions of pounds from taxpayers, . we could put that towards causes and charities— we could put that towards causes and charities to _ we could put that towards causes and charities to help— we could put that towards causes and charities to help those _ we could put that towards causes and charities to help those people. - we could put that towards causes and charities to help those people. but. charities to help those people. but that is not charities to help those people. that is not a lot per person per

year. that is not a lot per person per ear. ., , ., ., ., ., year. people travelled from near and far to visit- — year. people travelled from near and far to visit. we _ year. people travelled from near and far to visit. we have _ year. people travelled from near and far to visit. we have a _ year. people travelled from near and far to visit. we have a statistic - year. people travelled from near and far to visit. we have a statistic of - far to visit. we have a statistic of how much— far to visit. we have a statistic of how much they are raising for the country? — how much they are raising for the count ? , . how much they are raising for the count 7, , ,, , how much they are raising for the count 7 , ,, country? just because things are difficult, doesn't _ country? just because things are difficult, doesn't mean - country? just because things are difficult, doesn't mean you - difficult, doesn't mean you shouldn't put on something that makes people happy and looks magnificent and reflects well on this country and across the world. it doesn't mean we all have to wear sackcloth. it is a bit of escape. do you agree with that, charlotte? i do. personally, ithink you agree with that, charlotte? i do. personally, i think the amount each _ do. personally, i think the amount each of— do. personally, i think the amount each of us — do. personally, i think the amount each of us pays individually towards the royal— each of us pays individually towards the royal family is a negligible amount— the royal family is a negligible amount for most people. like andrew was saying. _ amount for most people. like andrew was saying, the joy that people get from seeing these events, even if

you can't— from seeing these events, even if you can't be there in person, everyone _ you can't be there in person, everyone can be involved through the tv. everyone can have memories, if they want. _ tv. everyone can have memories, if they want. to — tv. everyone can have memories, if they want, to take forward for a lifetime — they want, to take forward for a lifetime and look back and say, i remember— lifetime and look back and say, i remember watching that coronation. it's a _ remember watching that coronation. it's a memory that people can cherish — it's a memory that people can cherish i— it's a memory that people can cherish. i think the royals are such a part— cherish. i think the royals are such a part of— cherish. i think the royals are such a part of national identity. and the cost of— a part of national identity. and the cost of them is so negligible to individuals. i think it is lovely for us — individuals. i think it is lovely for us to— individuals. i think it is lovely for us to have.— individuals. i think it is lovely for us to have. you get bang for our for us to have. you get bang for your buck. _ for us to have. you get bang for your buck. oil— for us to have. you get bang for your buck, oil buckingham. - for us to have. you get bang for i your buck, oil buckingham. people sa it's your buck, oil buckingham. people say it's just — your buck, oil buckingham. people say it'siust a _ your buck, oil buckingham. people say it's just a few _ your buck, oil buckingham. people say it'sjust a few pounds - your buck, oil buckingham. people say it'sjust a few pounds each, i your buck, oil buckingham. people| say it'sjust a few pounds each, but say it's just a few pounds each, but the royal— say it's just a few pounds each, but the royal family_ say it's just a few pounds each, but the royal family are _ say it's just a few pounds each, but the royal family are one _ say it's just a few pounds each, but the royal family are one of- say it's just a few pounds each, but the royal family are one of the i the royal family are one of the wealthiest _ the royal family are one of the wealthiest families— the royal family are one of the wealthiest families in _ the royal family are one of the wealthiest families in their i the royal family are one of the i wealthiest families in their work. they— wealthiest families in their work. they could — wealthiest families in their work. they could afford _ wealthiest families in their work. they could afford the _ wealthiest families in their work. they could afford the whole i wealthiest families in their work. they could afford the whole bill, | wealthiest families in their work. i they could afford the whole bill, so why are _ they could afford the whole bill, so why are we — they could afford the whole bill, so why are we doing _ they could afford the whole bill, so why are we doing it? _

they could afford the whole bill, so why are we doing it?— they could afford the whole bill, so why are we doing it? change on that score isn't going _ why are we doing it? change on that score isn't going to _ why are we doing it? change on that score isn't going to happen - score isn't going to happen overnight. i am score isn't going to happen overnight. lam in score isn't going to happen overnight. i am in farming and he score isn't going to happen overnight. lam in farming and he is a overnight. iam in farming and he is a patron— overnight. iam in farming and he is a patron of— overnight. lam in farming and he is a patron of the countryside fund. and yes. — a patron of the countryside fund. and yes, it's only a drop in the water. — and yes, it's only a drop in the water. but _ and yes, it's only a drop in the water, but no change is going to happen— water, but no change is going to happen overnight. perhaps this is something we will see over his reign in something we will see over his reign in where _ something we will see over his reign in where he — something we will see over his reign in where he takes the monarchy. is he going _ in where he takes the monarchy. is he going to — in where he takes the monarchy. is he going to start supporting more charities— he going to start supporting more charities with that wealth? it is not something we can expect the royals _ not something we can expect the royals to— not something we can expect the royals to change in one go. charlotte, did you say you have meat goats? i thought that was what you said. . i goats? i thought that was what you said-- i want— goats? i thought that was what you said. yes. i want to get to the essence of — said. yes. i want to get to the essence of how _ said. yes. i want to get to the essence of how it _ said. yes. i want to get to the essence of how it made i said. yes. i want to get to the essence of how it made you feel. that was great to hear from andrew about the joy, but charlotte, what

did it make you feel about yourself and us as a country? it did it make you feel about yourself and us as a country?— and us as a country? it makes me feel proud- _ and us as a country? it makes me feel proud- l _ and us as a country? it makes me feel proud. i wasn't _ and us as a country? it makes me feel proud. i wasn't there, i and us as a country? it makes me feel proud. iwasn't there, i- and us as a country? it makes me feel proud. i wasn't there, i was l feel proud. i wasn't there, i was feeding — feel proud. i wasn't there, i was feeding the animals. but when i was younger. _ feeding the animals. but when i was younger. i— feeding the animals. but when i was younger, i went to the royal wedding~ _ younger, i went to the royal wedding-— younger, i went to the royal wedding-_ lt- younger, i went to the royal wedding._ it was wedding. which one? it was incredible. _ wedding. which one? it was incredible. and _ wedding. which one? it was incredible. and seeing i wedding. which one? it was incredible. and seeing the l incredible. and seeing the coronation now, it doesn't impact me in coronation now, it doesn't impact me in my— coronation now, it doesn't impact me in my personal life and it is probably— in my personal life and it is probably never going to. but equally. _ probably never going to. but equally, i think it is incredible and how— equally, i think it is incredible and how amazing are we at this? personally — and how amazing are we at this? personally, i felt ashamed. i am a republican. — personally, i felt ashamed. i am a republican. i— personally, i felt ashamed. i am a republican, i don't _ personally, i felt ashamed. i am a republican, i don't believe - personally, i felt ashamed. i am a republican, i don't believe in i personally, i felt ashamed. i am a republican, i don't believe in a i republican, i don't believe in a monarchy _ republican, i don't believe in a monarchy i— republican, i don't believe in a monarchy. i was _ republican, i don't believe in a monarchy. i was born - republican, idon't believe in a monarchy. i was born into- republican, i don't believe in a monarchy. i was born into a i monarchy. i was born into a working-class _ monarchy. i was born into a working—class background i monarchy. i was born into a i working—class background and monarchy. i was born into a - working—class background and king charles _ working—class background and king

charles was — working—class background and king charles was born _ working—class background and king charles was born into _ working—class background and king charles was born into high- charles was born into high privilege _ charles was born into high privilege he— charles was born into high privilege. he has- charles was born into high privilege. he has not- charles was born into high. privilege. he has not earned charles was born into high- privilege. he has not earned the right— privilege. he has not earned the right to — privilege. he has not earned the right to be — privilege. he has not earned the right to be kind _ privilege. he has not earned the right to be king. the _ privilege. he has not earned the right to be king. the reason i privilege. he has not earned the right to be king. the reason he. privilege. he has not earned the| right to be king. the reason he is kin- right to be king. the reason he is king is— right to be king. the reason he is king is because _ right to be king. the reason he is king is because his— right to be king. the reason he is king is because his mum - right to be king. the reason he is king is because his mum passedl right to be king. the reason he is i king is because his mum passed away. and now— king is because his mum passed away. and now he _ king is because his mum passed away. and now he has — king is because his mum passed away. and now he has this— king is because his mum passed away. and now he has this incredible - and now he has this incredible amount— and now he has this incredible amount of— and now he has this incredible amount of wealth _ and now he has this incredible amount of wealth and - and now he has this incredible| amount of wealth and privilege and now he has this incredible i amount of wealth and privilege and power. _ amount of wealth and privilege and power. and — amount of wealth and privilege and power. and he _ amount of wealth and privilege and power, and he hasn't _ amount of wealth and privilege and power, and he hasn't earned - amount of wealth and privilege and power, and he hasn't earned it, i amount of wealth and privilege and power, and he hasn't earned it, he| power, and he hasn't earned it, he has been _ power, and he hasn't earned it, he has been born— power, and he hasn't earned it, he has been born into _ power, and he hasn't earned it, he has been born into it. _ power, and he hasn't earned it, he has been born into it.— has been born into it. alistair is 'oinini has been born into it. alistair is joining us _ has been born into it. alistair is joining us in _ has been born into it. alistair is joining us in darlington. - has been born into it. alistair is joining us in darlington. good l joining us in darlington. good morning. _ joining us in darlington. good morning, nikki. _ joining us in darlington. good morning, nikki. what - joining us in darlington. good morning, nikki. what do i joining us in darlington. good morning, nikki. what do you | joining us in darlington. good i morning, nikki. what do you think about what — morning, nikki. what do you think about what you — morning, nikki. what do you think about what you are _ morning, nikki. what do you think about what you are hearing? it's l about what you are hearing? it's tuite about what you are hearing? it's quite sad. _ about what you are hearing? it�*s quite sad, really. firstly, ithink the event was spectacular. it highlighted what is best about britain. we are an island race and we can do this on a grand scale. i am proud to be british. this brought out the pinnacle of what we can do, the pageantry, the pump, the military. it emphasised what we are. whether you like the royal family or not, they have been part of history

for thousands of years. they are not going to get written out overnight. these people that want to do away with them, they do bring a lot to the country in terms of tourists and a boost to the economy. the figures for the spending this weekend, it has been a big cost to the country, but it is highlighting the country. and on a personal note, you can see the human touch of the royal family. that moment with him and william, it was poignant and very personal. what was poignant and very personal. what moment was — was poignant and very personal. what moment was that? _ was poignant and very personal. what moment was that? where _ was poignant and very personal. what moment was that? where he - was poignant and very personal. what moment was that? where he pledgedj moment was that? where he pledged alleiiance moment was that? where he pledged allegiance to — moment was that? where he pledged allegiance to the _ moment was that? where he pledged allegiance to the king. _ moment was that? where he pledged allegiance to the king. when - moment was that? where he pledged allegiance to the king. when he i allegiance to the king. when he kissed his dad. _ allegiance to the king. when he kissed his dad. yes, _ allegiance to the king. when he kissed his dad. yes, the - allegiance to the king. when he i kissed his dad. yes, the father-son moment. kissed his dad. yes, the father-son moment- if — kissed his dad. yes, the father-son moment- if you _ kissed his dad. yes, the father-son moment. if you go _ kissed his dad. yes, the father-son moment. if you go back— kissed his dad. yes, the father-son

moment. if you go back to - kissed his dad. yes, the father-son moment. if you go back to the i moment. if you go back to the queen'sjubilee and the concert, when prince louis was on charles' knee, it was a grandad and grandson and we are seeing that human side of them. . ., �* and we are seeing that human side of them. ,, ., �* i. and we are seeing that human side of them. ,, ., �* y., , and we are seeing that human side of them. . ., �* , ., , them. shouldn't you be equally proud ofthe them. shouldn't you be equally proud of the protesters? _ them. shouldn't you be equally proud of the protesters? because _ them. shouldn't you be equally proud of the protesters? because that i them. shouldn't you be equally proud of the protesters? because that is i of the protesters? because that is what we can do in a country, aren't they also the best of british, being allowed to say what they want and have their placards in protest against something that many people find sacred? isn't that wonderful thing about our democracy, does the reaction concern you? i'm incredibly concerned. no, alistair.— concerned. no, alistair. everyone has a right— concerned. no, alistair. everyone has a right to _ concerned. no, alistair. everyone has a right to free _ concerned. no, alistair. everyone has a right to free speech - concerned. no, alistair. everyone has a right to free speech and i concerned. no, alistair. everyone has a right to free speech and to l has a right to free speech and to voice how they feel. but the problem we have had recently is that processes have gone to the next

level, people glueing themselves to roads. people can voice an opinion, they can stand with a placard, but if there is a pension for unrest or disorder that if there is a potential for unrest, these things can be ignited by one person with a strong opinion when people follow that opinion. i have seen it at football matches. so that opinion. i have seen it at football matches.— that opinion. i have seen it at football matches. so you think it could have _ football matches. so you think it could have escalated. _ football matches. so you think it could have escalated. we i football matches. so you think it could have escalated. we will. football matches. so you think it i could have escalated. we will return to that aspect. zoe, you have 30 seconds to enthuse. i to that aspect. zoe, you have 30 seconds to enthuse.— seconds to enthuse. i will try. quickl ! seconds to enthuse. i will try. quickly! it's — seconds to enthuse. i will try. quickly! it's a _ seconds to enthuse. i will try. quickly! it's a wonderful i seconds to enthuse. i will try. i quickly! it's a wonderful programme. i saw it last — quickly! it's a wonderful programme. i saw it last night _ quickly! it's a wonderful programme. i saw it last night all _ quickly! it's a wonderful programme. i saw it last night all over— quickly! it's a wonderful programme. i saw it last night all over again - i saw it last night all over again and i_ i saw it last night all over again and i took_ i saw it last night all over again and i took photographs as it was going _ and i took photographs as it was going on — and i took photographs as it was going on. my husband worked at windsor— going on. my husband worked at windsor castle once. he met the queen _ windsor castle once. he met the queen. she was so funny and

respectful. he was working on the roof as _ respectful. he was working on the roof as a — respectful. he was working on the roof as a carpenter and she told the carpenter's — roof as a carpenter and she told the carpenter's friend to look after her savages _ carpenter's friend to look after her savages in— carpenter's friend to look after her savages in case the dog ate them. very natural lady.— # it's a marvellous 55” it's a marvellous programme, i # it's a marvellous programme, i thouuht # it's a marvellous programme, i thought she _ # it's a marvellous programme, i thought she meant _ # it's a marvellous programme, i thought she meant this _ # it's a marvellous programme, i thought she meant this one, - # it's a marvellous programme, i thought she meant this one, this| # it's a marvellous programme, i l thought she meant this one, this is good, though you will like this. thank you for the magnificent, could i say majestic contributions over the last hour. never mind the coronation, here's an event that brings people together ——

another weekend of parties ahead. is it slightly less contentious? some people are not all for it. what makes eurovision a winner? got a special eurovision team of experts lined up for you for the next hour to talk through everything you need to know, answer your questions and generally get us in the eurovision mood. a huge event. the acts are arriving in liverpool today. a whole week of music and pop magic, building up to saturday's grand final. with me and ready to talk to you nicki french - she was the uk's entry in 2000 pauljordan - aka dr eurovision there is nothing he does not know about this extraordinary phenomenon that has gone through so many evolutionary stages since time began. mans zelmerlow - he won eurovision for sweden in 2015, hosted it the following year.

good morning. here is the news. people across the uk are being encouraged to volunteer at one of the more than 50—thousand charity events marking the final day of coronation celebrations. the big help out aims to replenish the number of charity volunteers, which has been depleted since the pandemic. the metropolitan police says four of the 64 people the force arrested on saturday have been charged. this morning, the head of the anti—monarchy group, republic, told the bbc it was unacceptable to restrict people's right to protest to allow the smooth running of coronation celebrations this weekend. the met says its actions were proportionate. bbc analysis has found just over 11 thousand community chemists remain in england —— the lowest level since 2015.

160 pharmacies closed over the past two years. industry representatives are calling for more funding. the prime minister of the caribbean nation of saint kitts and nevis says the country will begin a public consultation about whether to remove king charles as head of state. dr terrance drew said his country is "not totally free" as long as the king remains in place. that's the music. i've seen all the great acts, i'm hearing the songs and filling excitement. i am seeing penny mordaunt walking to that music. it's a lot of fun and it has

been through many stages of public perception as well over the years. i was thinking about this. when i was a little boy, it was very serious, my first memory is probably sandie shaw, pop it on e string, and it mattered, and it stop mattering. and thenit mattered, and it stop mattering. and then it started to matter again but in an ironic way. and now we have gone full circle, and it really matters again. it still has irony, it still has fun, there is a touch of the post—modern about it. but mostly people love it. the route for their own team. as it were. we have got a special eurovision team of experts and they are brilliant people. to talk through everything you want to talk about and you can ask them anything you want to ask them as well. the uk entry in 2000.

good morning. them as well. the uk entry in 2000. good morning-— them as well. the uk entry in 2000. good morning._ it - them as well. the uk entry in 2000. good morning._ it is l good morning. good morning. it is ureat to good morning. good morning. it is great to see _ good morning. good morning. it is great to see yom _ good morning. good morning. it is great to see you. i _ good morning. good morning. it is great to see you. i cannot - good morning. good morning. it is great to see you. i cannot wait - good morning. good morning. it is great to see you. i cannot wait to l great to see you. i cannot wait to hear about your experience. what a life experience it must have been for you. life experience it must have been foryou. pauljordan life experience it must have been for you. pauljordan is here. good morninu. for you. pauljordan is here. good morning- i — for you. pauljordan is here. good morning- i am _ for you. pauljordan is here. good morning. i am wearing _ for you. pauljordan is here. good morning. i am wearing my - for you. pauljordan is here. good morning. i am wearing my nicky french— morning. i am wearing my nicky french t—shirt. | morning. i am wearing my nicky french t-shirt._ morning. i am wearing my nicky french t-shirt. i left mine in the house and _ french t-shirt. i left mine in the house and i _ french t-shirt. i left mine in the house and i thought, _ french t-shirt. i left mine in the house and i thought, i _ french t-shirt. i left mine in the house and i thought, i have - house and i thought, i have forgotten my nicky french t—shirt! it is a good way to kick of eurovision week.- it is a good way to kick of eurovision week. the winner of eurovision _ eurovision week. the winner of eurovision sought _ eurovision week. the winner of eurovision sought sweden - eurovision week. the winner of| eurovision sought sweden 2015, presents the highly acclaimed eurovision podcast, on bbc sounds. good morning to you. good morning, how are you? — good morning to you. good morning, how are you? we _ good morning to you. good morning, how are you? we can _ good morning to you. good morning, how are you? we can see _ good morning to you. good morning, how are you? we can see you - good morning to you. good morning, how are you? we can see you and - good morning to you. good morning, how are you? we can see you and we can hear you- — how are you? we can see you and we can hearyou- i— how are you? we can see you and we can hear you. i forgot _ how are you? we can see you and we can hear you. i forgot my _ how are you? we can see you and we can hear you. i forgot my nicky - can hear you. i forgot my nicky french t-shirt _ can hear you. i forgot my nicky french t-shirt as _ can hear you. i forgot my nicky

french t-shirt as well. - can hear you. i forgot my nicky french t-shirt as well. lets - can hear you. i forgot my nicky| french t-shirt as well. lets get can hear you. i forgot my nicky - french t-shirt as well. lets get the rate sensitive _ french t-shirt as well. lets get the rate sensitive for _ french t-shirt as well. lets get the rate sensitive for sweden, - french t-shirt as well. lets get the rate sensitive for sweden, we - french t-shirt as well. lets get the rate sensitive for sweden, we are l rate sensitive for sweden, we are going to have a trip down memory lane. we are going to have a look and listen to it. # we are the heroes of our time heroes, hashtag song for you, do not make a sound # and we turn into butterflies and turn the world around in appreciation. you still look fabulous, what pyrotechnics! the animation going on. what was it

like? ht animation going on. what was it like? ., , ., ., animation going on. what was it like? ., ., like? it was a dream come true. i have always _ like? it was a dream come true. i have always been _ like? it was a dream come true. i have always been a _ like? it was a dream come true. i have always been a eurovision . like? it was a dream come true. i l have always been a eurovision fan, watched _ have always been a eurovision fan, watched it— have always been a eurovision fan, watched it with _ have always been a eurovision fan, watched it with my— have always been a eurovision fan, watched it with my family - have always been a eurovision fan, watched it with my family when - have always been a eurovision fan, watched it with my family when i l have always been a eurovision fan, . watched it with my family when i was a child, _ watched it with my family when i was a child, in_ watched it with my family when i was a child, in part— watched it with my family when i was a child, in part of— watched it with my family when i was a child, in part of it— watched it with my family when i was a child, in part of it and _ a child, in part of it and representing _ a child, in part of it and representing my- a child, in part of it andl representing my country a child, in part of it and - representing my country was a child, in part of it and _ representing my country was massive for me _ representing my country was massive for me go _ representing my country was massive for me go down — representing my country was massive for me go down to— representing my country was massive for me. go down to vienna, - representing my country was massive for me. go down to vienna, feeling . for me. go down to vienna, feeling the weight— for me. go down to vienna, feeling the weight of— for me. go down to vienna, feeling the weight of my— for me. go down to vienna, feeling the weight of my country _ for me. go down to vienna, feeling the weight of my country on - for me. go down to vienna, feeling the weight of my country on my- the weight of my country on my shoulders _ the weight of my country on my shoulders. and _ the weight of my country on my shoulders. and then _ the weight of my country on my shoulders. and then actually i the weight of my country on my- shoulders. and then actually winning as welt _ shoulders. and then actually winning as welt i_ shoulders. and then actually winning as well. i remember— shoulders. and then actually winning as well. i remember the _ shoulders. and then actually winning as well. i remember the winners - as well. i remember the winners walk, _ as well. i remember the winners walk, sitting _ as well. i remember the winners walk, sitting down _ as well. i remember the winners walk, sitting down on _ as well. i remember the winners walk, sitting down on stage, - walk, sitting down on stage, preparing _ walk, sitting down on stage, preparing to _ walk, sitting down on stage, preparing to do _ walk, sitting down on stage, preparing to do it _ walk, sitting down on stage, preparing to do it again, - walk, sitting down on stage, preparing to do it again, and thinking _ preparing to do it again, and thinking my— preparing to do it again, and thinking my friends - preparing to do it again, and thinking my friends would i preparing to do it again, and| thinking my friends would be preparing to do it again, and - thinking my friends would be really proud _ thinking my friends would be really proud is _ thinking my friends would be really roud. , . , thinking my friends would be really roud. , ., , , proud. is there a better winner is lookin: proud. is there a better winner is looking old _ proud. is there a better winner is looking old music? _ proud. is there a better winner is looking old music? i _ proud. is there a better winner is looking old music? i not - proud. is there a better winner is looking old music? i not think. proud. is there a better winner is| looking old music? i not think so. the rock and roll hall of fame perhaps. tell me more about the winners walk tingle.— winners walk tingle. there was confetti everywhere, _ winners walk tingle. there was confetti everywhere, the - winners walk tingle. there was| confetti everywhere, the entire arena _ confetti everywhere, the entire arena standing _ confetti everywhere, the entire arena standing up _ confetti everywhere, the entire arena standing up and - confetti everywhere, the entirel arena standing up and everyone confetti everywhere, the entire - arena standing up and everyone was so excited — arena standing up and everyone was so excited and _ arena standing up and everyone was so excited and so _ arena standing up and everyone was so excited. and so was _ arena standing up and everyone was so excited. and so was i, _ arena standing up and everyone was so excited. and so was i, obviously. j so excited. and so was i, obviously. and then _ so excited. and so was i, obviously. and then coming _ so excited. and so was i, obviously. and then coming home _ so excited. and so was i, obviously. and then coming home to _

so excited. and so was i, obviously. and then coming home to sweden, i and then coming home to sweden, lreing _ and then coming home to sweden, lreing met — and then coming home to sweden, lreing met at — and then coming home to sweden, lreing met at the _ and then coming home to sweden, being met at the airport _ and then coming home to sweden, being met at the airport by- being met at the airport by thousands— being met at the airport by thousands and _ being met at the airport by thousands and thousands i being met at the airport byl thousands and thousands of being met at the airport by- thousands and thousands of people and coming — thousands and thousands of people and coming to— thousands and thousands of people and coming to my— thousands and thousands of people and coming to my hometown, - thousands and thousands of people i and coming to my hometown, 20,000 people _ and coming to my hometown, 20,000 people meeting — and coming to my hometown, 20,000 people meeting nre _ and coming to my hometown, 20,000 people meeting me. it— and coming to my hometown, 20,000 people meeting me. it was _ and coming to my hometown, 20,000 people meeting me. it was massive. l people meeting me. it was massive. obviously. _ people meeting me. it was massive. obviously, sweden _ people meeting me. it was massive. obviously, sweden loves _ people meeting me. it was massive. obviously, sweden loves eurovision, the festival— obviously, sweden loves eurovision, the festival there, _ obviously, sweden loves eurovision, the festival there, the _ obviously, sweden loves eurovision, the festival there, the national- the festival there, the national selection — the festival there, the national selection show, _ the festival there, the national selection show, nothing - the festival there, the national selection show, nothing else . the festival there, the national- selection show, nothing else matters in that— selection show, nothing else matters in that period — selection show, nothing else matters in that period of— selection show, nothing else matters in that period of time! _ selection show, nothing else matters in that period of time!— in that period of time! paul, was i riaht in in that period of time! paul, was i right in my _ in that period of time! paul, was i right in my assessment _ in that period of time! paul, was i right in my assessment at - in that period of time! paul, was i right in my assessment at the - right in my assessment at the beginning that it mattered, then it didn't matter, then it didn't matter with an ironic twist and it matters completely again with a little bit of twist and a lot of fun? is that an accurate description of how it has over the years? it an accurate description of how it has over the years?— has over the years? it has gone throu . h has over the years? it has gone through peaks _ has over the years? it has gone through peaks and _ has over the years? it has gone through peaks and troughs, - has over the years? it has gone through peaks and troughs, the has over the years? it has gone - through peaks and troughs, the 80s were a _ through peaks and troughs, the 80s were a dark— through peaks and troughs, the 80s were a dark time, viewing figures were _ were a dark time, viewing figures were dipping, perhaps an overstatement, it went through a challenging time, viewing figures

when _ challenging time, viewing figures when down, didn't create the hits. it when down, didn't create the hits. it has _ when down, didn't create the hits. it has become more popular and mainstream now. the pandemic has shown— mainstream now. the pandemic has shown as _ mainstream now. the pandemic has shown as we — mainstream now. the pandemic has shown as we need joy, escapism, eurovision— shown as we need joy, escapism, eurovision offers that in abundance. when _ eurovision offers that in abundance. when ukraine won and we are hosting on behalf— when ukraine won and we are hosting on behalf of— when ukraine won and we are hosting on behalf of them, it becomes more significant — on behalf of them, it becomes more siunificant. ~ ., significant. went to get sagging aaain and significant. went to get sagging again and why _ significant. went to get sagging again and why two _ significant. went to get sagging again and why two in _ significant. went to get sagging again and why two in the - significant. went to get sagging again and why two in the last i significant. went to get sagging l again and why two in the last ten ears, again and why two in the last ten years. people — again and why two in the last ten years, people think— again and why two in the last ten years, people think it _ again and why two in the last ten years, people think it is - again and why two in the last ten years, people think it is special. | years, people think it is special. 0ver— years, people think it is special. over the — years, people think it is special. over the years, people talk about the music— over the years, people talk about the music been terrible, but the same _ the music been terrible, but the same people talking about that terrible — same people talking about that terrible music are not the same people — terrible music are not the same people who watch it, most of the songs _ people who watch it, most of the songs are — people who watch it, most of the songs are pretty good. it's a very stick— songs are pretty good. it's a very stick show. — songs are pretty good. it's a very slick show. people appreciated in a different— slick show. people appreciated in a different way. it is an old tv format. _ different way. it is an old tv format. it _ different way. it is an old tv format, it is nearly 70 years old, people _ format, it is nearly 70 years old, people are — format, it is nearly 70 years old, people are downloading things, but the sit _ people are downloading things, but the sit down and make a date with their— the sit down and make a date with their tv _ the sit down and make a date with their tv set — the sit down and make a date with their tv set at 8pm on a saturday night _ their tv set at 8pm on a saturday night is — their tv set at 8pm on a saturday night. is very special. it is their tv set at 8pm on a saturday night. is very special.— night. is very special. it is a social media _ night. is very special. it is a social media face. - night. is very special. it is a social media face. sam - night. is very special. it is a i social media face. sam ryder night. is very special. it is a - social media face. sam ryder was a tiktok sensation. there was a song

from armenia last year, came 20th, and went on to become a massive hit and went on to become a massive hit and launched a career worldwide. there is life after eurovision too. sam _ there is life after eurovision too. sam ryder— there is life after eurovision too. sam ryder coming second, people say we have a terrible record, but we have won it five times. we we have a terrible record, but we have won it five times.— we have a terrible record, but we have won it five times. we have come second 16 times, _ have won it five times. we have come second 16 times, it's _ have won it five times. we have come second 16 times, it's incredible, - have won it five times. we have come second 16 times, it's incredible, if- second 16 times, it's incredible, if that was— second 16 times, it's incredible, if that was any other country, they would _ that was any other country, they would scream it was a fix. i�*m would scream it was a fix. i'm sor , would scream it was a fix. i'm sorry. these _ would scream it was a fix. i'm sorry, these were _ would scream it was a fix. i�*rn sorry, these were the lean years, nicky, how did it feel at the time in 2002 , ., 4' nicky, how did it feel at the time in 2002 y., ~ y., �* in 2002 you felt like you'd let the country down- — in 2002 you felt like you'd let the country down. i— in 2002 you felt like you'd let the country down. i felt _ in 2002 you felt like you'd let the country down. i felt like - in 2002 you felt like you'd let the country down. i felt like i - in 2002 you felt like you'd let the country down. i felt like i like - in 2002 you felt like you'd let the country down. i felt like i like thej country down. i felt like i like the country down. i felt like i like the country don't _ country down. i felt like i like the country don't come _ country down. i felt like i like the country don't come to _ country down. i felt like i like the country don't come to you - country down. i felt like i like the country don't come to you at - country down. i felt like i like the country don't come to you at that particular point.— country don't come to you at that particular point. after showing sam r der. particular point. after showing sam ryder- everyone — particular point. after showing sam ryder. everyone is _ particular point. after showing sam ryder. everyone is going _ particular point. after showing sam ryder. everyone is going to - particular point. after showing sam ryder. everyone is going to watch i particular point. after showing sam i ryder. everyone is going to watch me sin that ryder. everyone is going to watch me sing that on — ryder. everyone is going to watch me sing that on television. _

ryder. everyone is going to watch me sing that on television. they've - ryder. everyone is going to watch me sing that on television. they've all. sing that on television. they've all not sing that on television. they've all got t-shirts! _ sing that on television. they've all got t-shirts! it — sing that on television. they've all got t-shirts! it kind _ sing that on television. they've all got t-shirts! it kind of— sing that on television. they've all got t-shirts! it kind of was - sing that on television. they've all got t-shirts! it kind of was the - got t—shirts! it kind of was the lean time. mind you, coming straight from katrina winning in 97, and second in 1998, the following year, i think, full, correct me, we were ninth or tenth?— i think, full, correct me, we were ninth or tenth?- i _ i think, full, correct me, we were ninth or tenth? 12th. i remember doinu an ninth or tenth? 12th. i remember doing an interview— ninth ortenth?12th. i remember doing an interview before eurovision and someone said are you going to do better? and i remember saying i hope so. it can't be that bad. and our son was 16th. at the time, it was the worst ever and then it got worse again and again and again. apart from when we were fifth and third, a few decent ones, mostly, it was down the bottom end of the table by the

end of the evening. and last year, sam ryderjust knocked it out of the park. it was superb. he had the best song. he had such great vocals. people loved it and i think single—handedly in a way, he has rejuvenated the interest in the eurovision song contest in this country. eurovision song contest in this count . ~ ., eurovision song contest in this count . ., ~ eurovision song contest in this count . ., ,, country. wow. what was it like, as ou sat country. wow. what was it like, as you sat there. _ country. wow. what was it like, as you sat there, and _ country. wow. what was it like, as you sat there, and you _ country. wow. what was it like, as you sat there, and you realise it i you sat there, and you realise it was all going wrong? it you sat there, and you realise it was all going wrong?— was all going wrong? it was horrible. — was all going wrong? it was horrible, it _ was all going wrong? it was horrible, it was _ was all going wrong? it was l horrible, it was demoralising, they'd go to a different country to get their points, and we would all be looking around the table, the uk table, they'll give us points, this will be and nothing! or two points. the most we got from anyone with six points. the most we got from anyone with six oints. ~ ., .,, ., ., ., |

points. who was that from two i think we got _ points. who was that from two i think we got sweden _ points. who was that from two i think we got sweden and - points. who was that from two i think we got sweden and malta. that's where my knowledge... ? you should _ that's where my knowledge... ? you should know — that's where my knowledge... ? you should know everything! my celebrity sinrain , this should know everything! my celebrity singing. this is _ should know everything! my celebrity singing, this is nothing _ should know everything! my celebrity singing, this is nothing to _ should know everything! my celebrity singing, this is nothing to this, - singing, this is nothing to this, but there is the thing when you are in rehearsal and you see somebody is doing and you think oh, no, they are great! did you get a bit of that? totally. the weirdest thing was the group who won year from denmark, they went on for their rehearsals and they were tv screens all around the hotel we were staying in which was also the venue. and you would watch them rehearse and actually the opposite would happen, you'd think to yourself, oh, no problem with them! and, actually, they ran away

with the title. it was just amazing. they just with the title. it was just amazing. theyjust resonated with the whole public. that year. and fantastic. they were lovely guys. they fully deserved to win. but in rehearsal, you would hear their song and you think, yes, that's all right, and that was it! it think, yes, that's all right, and that was it!— think, yes, that's all right, and that was it! it is so good to see ou. it that was it! it is so good to see you- it is _ that was it! it is so good to see you- it is going _ that was it! it is so good to see you. it is going to _ that was it! it is so good to see you. it is going to be _ that was it! it is so good to see you. it is going to be a - that was it! it is so good to see you. it is going to be a week. that was it! it is so good to see| you. it is going to be a week for you. it is going to be a week for you. it's going to be relentless. let's remind ourselves of your good self. # don't play that song again...

tied changes everything and that's what they say. you know, i think we can revisit this. i think that is good, especially when you say, i wish it was the way it was, there is nothing wrong with wish it was the way it was, there is nothing wrong witt— wish it was the way it was, there is nothing wrong with thank you! wrong? the wizard of — nothing wrong with thank you! wrong? the wizard of oz _ nothing wrong with thank you! wrong? the wizard of oz when _ nothing wrong with thank you! wrong? the wizard of oz when it _ nothing wrong with thank you! wrong? the wizard of oz when it was _ nothing wrong with thank you! wrong? the wizard of oz when it was first - the wizard of oz when it was first made was not successful. it the wizard of oz when it was first made was not successful.- made was not successful. it took many years _ made was not successful. it took many years for— made was not successful. it took many years for it _ made was not successful. it took many years for it to _ made was not successful. it took many years for it to catch - made was not successful. it took many years for it to catch on. - made was not successful. it took i many years for it to catch on. there could be a revision. that's not too bad! ' ~ could be a revision. that's not too bad! ~ ., ., ,., bad! 16th nowadays is all right. nicky vocally — bad! 16th nowadays is all right. nicky vocally was _ bad! 16th nowadays is all right. nicky vocally was brilliant i bad! 16th nowadays is all right. nicky vocally was brilliant and l bad! 16th nowadays is all right. i nicky vocally was brilliant and it's a perfectly good song. but eurovision was changing, the big performance was coming in, nicky was

on early. _ performance was coming in, nicky was on early, denmark blew everyone out of the _ on early, denmark blew everyone out of the water~ — on early, denmark blew everyone out of the water. i am very proud of her and it— of the water. i am very proud of her and it is— of the water. i am very proud of her and it is the — of the water. i am very proud of her and it is the first year we met and it was— and it is the first year we met and it was my— and it is the first year we met and it was my first contest. she was at the after— it was my first contest. she was at the after show party and she was a bit the after show party and she was a hit upset _ the after show party and she was a bit upset but she was there and proud _ bit upset but she was there and proud and — bit upset but she was there and proud and professional. i am bit upset but she was there and proud and professional. iam proud of you _ proud and professional. iam proud of you in— proud and professional. iam proud of you. in that arena, it was held in 2016. — of you. in that arena, it was held in 2016. the _ of you. in that arena, it was held in 2016, the first year i worked on it and _ in 2016, the first year i worked on it and you — in 2016, the first year i worked on it and you were the presenter. it is a little _ it and you were the presenter. it is a little starker.— a little starker. sarah in liverpool. _ a little starker. sarah in liverpool. this - a little starker. sarah in liverpool. this is i a little starker. sarah in liverpool. this is going | a little starker. sarah in l liverpool. this is going to a little starker. sarah in i liverpool. this is going to get a little starker. sarah in _ liverpool. this is going to get very confusinu. liverpool. this is going to get very confusing. when _ liverpool. this is going to get very confusing. when she _ liverpool. this is going to get very confusing. when she said, - liverpool. this is going to get very confusing. when she said, hello, i confusing. when she said, hello, nic , i confusing. when she said, hello, nicky. i thought _ confusing. when she said, hello, nicky, i thought she _ confusing. when she said, hello, nicky, i thought she meant i confusing. when she said, hello, nicky, i thought she meant me. | confusing. when she said, hello, i nicky, i thought she meant me. she meant you- — nicky, i thought she meant me. she meant you- you _ nicky, i thought she meant me. she meant you. you are _ nicky, i thought she meant me. she meant you. you are at _ nicky, i thought she meant me. she meant you. you are at the _ nicky, i thought she meant me. she meant you. you are at the start of i meant you. you are at the start of the show- —

meant you. you are at the start of the show- how— meant you. you are at the start of the show. how excited _ meant you. you are at the start of the show. how excited are - meant you. you are at the start of the show. how excited are you, i meant you. you are at the start of the show. how excited are you, inj the show. how excited are you, in your hometown? the the show. how excited are you, in your hometown?— the show. how excited are you, in your hometown? the city is buzzing, and ou your hometown? the city is buzzing, and you cannot _ your hometown? the city is buzzing, and you cannot miss _ your hometown? the city is buzzing, and you cannot miss it. _ your hometown? the city is buzzing, and you cannot miss it. if _ your hometown? the city is buzzing, and you cannot miss it. if anyone i and you cannot miss it. if anyone thinks _ and you cannot miss it. if anyone thinks you — and you cannot miss it. if anyone thinks you can avoid eurovision in liverpool— thinks you can avoid eurovision in liverpool or — thinks you can avoid eurovision in liverpool or merseyside, forget it. go and _ liverpool or merseyside, forget it. go and find — liverpool or merseyside, forget it. go and find a nice little disused mine _ go and find a nice little disused mine and — go and find a nice little disused mine and leatherneck because you cannot _ mine and leatherneck because you cannot avoid it. the atmosphere is electric _ cannot avoid it. the atmosphere is electric to— cannot avoid it. the atmosphere is electric. to be honest, in liverpool, we love a party and you could _ liverpool, we love a party and you could not— liverpool, we love a party and you could not get a bigger party than eurovision. these things that have been _ eurovision. these things that have been going on, it is not all about liverpool. — been going on, it is not all about liverpool, it is a little bit about liverpool. _ liverpool, it is a little bit about liverpool, but we are hosting it for ukraine, _ liverpool, but we are hosting it for ukraine, there has been a lot going on about— ukraine, there has been a lot going on about the culture in ukraine, a lot of— on about the culture in ukraine, a lot of lands— on about the culture in ukraine, a lot of bands playing over the last

week— lot of bands playing over the last week and — lot of bands playing over the last week and venues, there are so many bands _ week and venues, there are so many bands playing, people have said normally— bands playing, people have said normally in eurovision we can see that and _ normally in eurovision we can see that and that, now, we are having problems — that and that, now, we are having problems i— that and that, now, we are having problems. i want to go and see this event _ problems. i want to go and see this event are _ problems. i want to go and see this event are banned and i want to see that one _ event are banned and i want to see that one but they are on at the same time and _ that one but they are on at the same time and i_ that one but they are on at the same time and i don't how we are going to do it _ time and i don't how we are going to do it it's _ time and i don't how we are going to do it it'siust— time and i don't how we are going to do it. it'sjust literally... there is so _ do it. it'sjust literally... there is so much _ do it. it'sjust literally... there is so much going on, you will end up with whiplash. you need a month in north— with whiplash. you need a month in north wales to recover from all that is going _ north wales to recover from all that is going on. — north wales to recover from all that is going on, we had the official kick-off— is going on, we had the official kick-off to _ is going on, we had the official kick—off to the euro village and build _ kick—off to the euro village and build up — kick—off to the euro village and build up on friday, and we had the submarine — build up on friday, and we had the submarine parade and the euro village — submarine parade and the euro village opened and there is so much going _ village opened and there is so much going on. _ village opened and there is so much going on. i— village opened and there is so much going on, i have not had a chance to absorb _ going on, i have not had a chance to absorb it— going on, i have not had a chance to absorb it all— going on, i have not had a chance to absorb it all but it's even on the street — absorb it all but it's even on the

street part— absorb it all but it's even on the street. part everywhere, the first coat of— street. part everywhere, the first coat of paint the colour of the ukrainian _ coat of paint the colour of the ukrainian flag, and the whole place isiust_ ukrainian flag, and the whole place isjust absolutely ukrainian flag, and the whole place is just absolutely buzzing and we love music, it's in our dna in liverpool. _ love music, it's in our dna in liverpool, we are basically the united — liverpool, we are basically the united nations in the city, music from _ united nations in the city, music from all— united nations in the city, music from all over the world, this is the perfect _ from all over the world, this is the perfect vehicle and event for ukraine _ perfect vehicle and event for ukraine and liverpool to show their links, _ ukraine and liverpool to show their links, and _ ukraine and liverpool to show their links, and our shared love of music because _ links, and our shared love of music because both liverpool and kharkiv have got— because both liverpool and kharkiv have got unesco world music heritage sites~ _ have got unesco world music heritage sites. liverpooland have got unesco world music heritage sites. liverpool and odesa are both ports— sites. liverpool and odesa are both ports and _ sites. liverpool and odesa are both ports and are twinned,... what

sites. liverpool and odesa are both ports and are twinned,...— ports and are twinned,... what a ulorious ports and are twinned,... what a glorious diatribe _ ports and are twinned,... what a glorious diatribe that _ ports and are twinned,... what a glorious diatribe that was. i ports and are twinned,... what a i glorious diatribe that was. diatribe is a negative word. that was fantastic! that was a lovely diatribe. it was a magnificent monologue. in a field near, where are you two north cornwall two one are you two north cornwall two we have are you two north cornwall two we: have been camping are you two north cornwall two w9 have been camping for are you two north cornwall two w9: have been camping for the are you two north cornwall two w9 have been camping for the weekend, i have been camping for the weekend, i have got tickets for the grand final. i have got a unionjack dress, in case there is any doubt who i am supporting, i have got a unionjack hole in my hair, i cannot wait. —— oh in my hair. i might be supporting the uk. i got the tickets in the second release, i went online

and there were 6000 people in front of me. second release, i did exactly the same thing but i got the tickets. i couldn't believe it! hi that's lucky because i have not got a ticket. ., .., ., a ticket. you recommend a restaurant, _ a ticket. you recommend a restaurant, and _ a ticket. you recommend a restaurant, and all- a ticket. you recommend a restaurant, and all your. a ticket. you recommend a i restaurant, and all your friends a ticket. you recommend a - restaurant, and all your friends go there _ restaurant, and all your friends go there and — restaurant, and all your friends go there and you can't get a table. you, _ there and you can't get a table. you, an— there and you can't get a table. you, an expert on all things eurovision who wrote a thesis on this, a dissertation, pauljordan, doctor eurovision, the man who has the encyclopedic knowledge, the exhaustive knowledge, you don't have a ticket! if exhaustive knowledge, you don't have a ticket! . , ., , exhaustive knowledge, you don't have aticket! ., , ., . a ticket! if anyone is watching, i am available — a ticket! if anyone is watching, i am available on _ a ticket! if anyone is watching, i am available on saturday! it's i a ticket! if anyone is watching, i - am available on saturday! it's going to be _ am available on saturday! it's going to be great,... can am available on saturday! it's going to be great-"— to be great,... can you not get access all— to be great,... can you not get access all areas? _ to be great,... can you not get access all areas? when - to be great,... can you not get access all areas? when i - to be great,... can you not get. access all areas? when i worked there,

access all areas? when i worked there. they _ access all areas? when i worked there, they give _ access all areas? when i worked there, they give me _ access all areas? when i worked there, they give me a _ access all areas? when i worked there, they give me a vip - access all areas? when i worked there, they give me a vip pass, | access all areas? when i worked - there, they give me a vip pass, and tickets_ there, they give me a vip pass, and tickets and — there, they give me a vip pass, and tickets and hospitality, it was lovely. — tickets and hospitality, it was lovely, but i don't want to be the luy lovely, but i don't want to be the guy who — lovely, but i don't want to be the guy who asked a favour, but if you don't _ guy who asked a favour, but if you don't ask, — guy who asked a favour, but if you don't ask, you don't get. what was it like when — don't ask, you don't get. what was it like when you _ don't ask, you don't get. what was it like when you realised _ don't ask, you don't get. what was it like when you realised you - don't ask, you don't get. what was it like when you realised you were | it like when you realised you were going and you had the golden ticket to willy wonka's chocolate factory two ., ., , to willy wonka's chocolate factory two ., �*, two i almost couldn't believe it, and then i _ two i almost couldn't believe it, and then i thought _ two i almost couldn't believe it, and then i thought i _ two i almost couldn't believe it, and then i thought i need - two i almost couldn't believe it, and then i thought i need to - two i almost couldn't believe it, | and then i thought i need to sort out the hotel, and on the account it kept saying the ticket was not ready and i wondered if something had gone wrong. yesterday, the tickets came up, you have to have your mobile phone with you and there is a bar code and there are two lines, knight rider style, left to right, a bar code, as soon as that happened yesterday, i am super excited and it feels like it is going to happen and i managed to get a hotel for note at an exorbitant price as well, so that is quite good. i have got a hotel, i've got my outfit, i ready to go!

it is a standing ticket, i am five foot four, if anyone is tall, could the stand behind me? would that be ok? ., ., ., ., ., , , ok? you are going to have the best time, it is ok? you are going to have the best time. it is an _ ok? you are going to have the best time, it is an amazing _ ok? you are going to have the best time, it is an amazing atmosphere. | time, it is an amazing atmosphere. and also— time, it is an amazing atmosphere. and also someone in a hat. i time, it is an amazing atmosphere. and also someone in a hat.- and also someone in a hat. i would not be happy- _ and also someone in a hat. i would not be happy. someone _ and also someone in a hat. i would not be happy. someone will- and also someone in a hat. i would not be happy. someone will be - and also someone in a hat. i would not be happy. someone will be in l not be happy. someone will be in front of you _ not be happy. someone will be in front of you in — not be happy. someone will be in front of you in a _ not be happy. someone will be in front of you in a union _ not be happy. someone will be in front of you in a union jack - not be happy. someone will be in front of you in a union jack patch | front of you in a unionjack patch and you will be furious! what front of you in a union jack patch and you will be furious!— front of you in a union jack patch and you will be furious! what do you think what do you think of the chances of the uk _ what do you think of the chances of the uk entry— what do you think of the chances of the uk entry this _ what do you think of the chances of the uk entry this year _ what do you think of the chances of the uk entry this year a few- what do you think of the chances of the uk entry this year a few i - the uk entry this year a few i like the uk entry this year a few i like the son: , the uk entry this year a few i like the song. it's _ the uk entry this year a few i like the song, it's quite _ the uk entry this year a few i like the song, it's quite modern, - the uk entry this year a few the song, it's quite modern, she has done a good job promoting it, i am hoping this year we will properly win it, but you do not know until the public vote comes in because that changed everything last year. as soon as i got the ticket, i had a

eurovision party at my house, sorry we have to cancel the eurovision party, i am going to the grand final. . , , �*, . . final. party paper! let's hear a little bit of _ final. party paper! let's hear a little bit of our _ final. party paper! let's hear a little bit of our entry _ final. party paper! let's hear a little bit of our entry this - final. party paper! let's hear a little bit of our entry this year. # how you did me wrong and we all sell —— singalong instead i wrote a song instead i wrote a song. he sings

it's a good song, don't you think? yes, i can't wait. thank you. en'oy ourself. yes, i can't wait. thank you. en'oy yourself. on. fl yes, i can't wait. thank you. en'oy yourself. oh, that d yes, i can't wait. thank you. en'oy yourself. oh, that particularfi yes, i can't wait. thank you. enjoy yourself. oh, that particular song, i yourself. oh, that particular song, in the pantheon of euro pop two n in the pantheon of euro pop two i think it's my favourite. it's a brilliant _ think it's my favourite. it's a brilliant pop song. it depends on her live — brilliant pop song. it depends on her live performance, and it is the final song — her live performance, and it is the final song of the night. there are 25 sons_ final song of the night. there are 25 sons before her, people might be, they might _ 25 sons before her, people might be, they might miss it, that is when the 'ury they might miss it, that is when the jury comes — they might miss it, that is when the jury comes in. i hope she performs well because it is a good song. going — well because it is a good song. going out— well because it is a good song. going out last is normally a good thing. _ going out last is normally a good thing. so — going out last is normally a good thing. so that— going out last is normally a good thing, so that is _ going out last is normally a good thing, so that is a _ going out last is normally a good thing, so that is a perk, - going out last is normally a good thing, so that is a perk, really. l thing, so that is a perk, really. but i _ thing, so that is a perk, really. but i think— thing, so that is a perk, really. but i think you _ thing, so that is a perk, really. but i think you are _ thing, so that is a perk, really. but i think you are right, - thing, so that is a perk, really. but i think you are right, she . thing, so that is a perk, really. l but i think you are right, she has thing, so that is a perk, really. - but i think you are right, she has a great _ but i think you are right, she has a great song. — but i think you are right, she has a great song. i— but i think you are right, she has a great song, i think— but i think you are right, she has a great song, i think it _ but i think you are right, she has a great song, i think it will— but i think you are right, she has a great song, i think it will come - great song, i think it will come down _ great song, i think it will come down completely— great song, i think it will come down completely to _ great song, i think it will come down completely to the - great song, i think it will come - down completely to the performance and how _ down completely to the performance and how much — down completely to the performance and how much energy— down completely to the performance and how much energy and _ down completely to the performance and how much energy and joy- down completely to the performance and how much energy and joy she i down completely to the performance l and how much energy and joy she has and how much energy and joy she has and how— and how much energy and joy she has and how she — and how much energy and joy she has and how she sings _ and how much energy and joy she has and how she sings it. _ and how much energy and joy she has and how she sings it. what— and how much energy and 'oy she has and how she sings it._ and how she sings it. what about the runnina and how she sings it. what about the running order? _ and how she sings it. what about the running order? how—

and how she sings it. what about the running order? how important - and how she sings it. what about the running order? how important is - and how she sings it. what about the running order? how important is it? | running order? how important is it? i agree with paul. when you are literally the last song of 26, that is quite a tall order. she has been sat around all evening getting more and more adrenaline pumped into her. also, the viewing public are starting to getjaded by 26 songs. however good it is. however exciting and thrilling 80 is, and glamorous, 26 songs is a to sit through. but... lang? that is the whole point, 26 songs. mil lang? that is the whole point, 26 sonrs. �* , lang? that is the whole point, 26 sonrs. ~ , , lang? that is the whole point, 26 sonus. �* , . it lang? that is the whole point, 26 songs— it is - lang? that is the whole point, 26 songs— it is a i songs. all these songs... it is a really good _ songs. all these songs... it is a really good song. _ songs. all these songs... it is a really good song. she - songs. all these songs... it is a really good song. she sang - songs. all these songs... it is a really good song. she sang for| songs. all these songs... it is a i really good song. she sang for us songs. all these songs... it is a - really good song. she sang for us at the london eurovision party recently where all the entrants are invited to perform. and she went on and when

that chorus kicks in, those drums are really sensational! it really makes you want to dance. i agree with paul, i think it is going to score highly, the problem is the public vote because we tend to drop back slightly with the public vote. however, let's hope people are sympathetic because we are hosting on behalf of of ukraine, but are hosting. on behalf of of ukraine, but are hostinu. ~ , , on behalf of of ukraine, but are hostinu. ~,, ~ , ., , on behalf of of ukraine, but are hostinu. m, ~ , ., , hosting. missing key moments, i was at the brit awards, _ hosting. missing key moments, i was at the brit awards, jarvis _ hosting. missing key moments, i was at the brit awards, jarvis cocker - at the brit awards, jarvis cocker mint michaeljackson when i was in the toilet. michaeljackson came on and i was not a great fan and i came back and and i was not a great fan and i came backand! and i was not a great fan and i came back and i said what has happened a few we have got alistair in kent,.

how are you? share few we have got alistair in kent,. how are you?— few we have got alistair in kent,. how are you? few we have got alistair in kent,. how are ou? �* ., ., .. how are you? are we going to win two no, we how are you? are we going to win two no. we are _ how are you? are we going to win two no. we are not— how are you? are we going to win two no, we are not going _ how are you? are we going to win two no, we are not going to _ how are you? are we going to win two no, we are not going to win, - how are you? are we going to win two no, we are not going to win, i - no, we are not going to win, i have not felt enthusiastic since box phase. the question about what makes eurovision a winner, the political element is starting to dissipate, and it has to be what the act looks like, what the song is like. you could go back to the days of eurovision is glam rock in 2020 and thatis eurovision is glam rock in 2020 and that is what people want. we do not want to fall asleep. if you are a member, the fireworks is a great song and a great act, that is what wins eurovision. in the last 20 years, to be honest. i do not think we have got a chance. filth. years, to be honest. i do not think we have got a chance.— years, to be honest. i do not think we have got a chance. oh, dear, not a chance? —

we have got a chance. oh, dear, not a chance? what _ we have got a chance. oh, dear, not a chance? what are _ we have got a chance. oh, dear, not a chance? what are your— we have got a chance. oh, dear, not a chance? what are your musical - a chance? what are your musical highlights? what do you mean over the last... 70 years? the highlights? what do you mean over the last. .. 70 years?— the last... 70 years? the ukraine son: the last... 70 years? the ukraine song from _ the last... 70 years? the ukraine song from last — the last... 70 years? the ukraine song from last year, _ the last... 70 years? the ukraine song from last year, the - the last... 70 years? the ukraine song from last year, the russian | the last... 70 years? the ukraine - song from last year, the russian one from a few years, it looked a bit like the rock band, i can't remember the name, slipknot type band. it has to be a catchy song that stays with you, within the first three minutes, you, within the first three minutes, you will remember it two hours later. but if something to sleep in the first ten minutes you are not going to vote for it. eurovision is all about the noise, what the band sounds like, getting out there to the rest of europe. the political element has dissipated. there is still a little bit here and there, the balkans and the nordic countries,... lang? as a scotsman,

as a scotsman, why is the political cultural element dissipated, people voting for each other, there is a jury voting for each other, there is a jury of experts so is half—and—half two jury of experts so is half-and-half two , , .. jury of experts so is half-and-half two , , ., .. two the 'ury were brought in to get rid of two the jury were brought in to get rid of neighbourly _ two the jury were brought in to get rid of neighbourly voting, - two the jury were brought in to get rid of neighbourly voting, the - two the jury were brought in to get rid of neighbourly voting, the uk i rid of neighbourly voting, the uk and ireland vote for each other, it is the _ and ireland vote for each other, it is the same — and ireland vote for each other, it is the same in sweden, norwegian archers— is the same in sweden, norwegian archers are — is the same in sweden, norwegian archers are known, the same in the balkan _ archers are known, the same in the balkan countries, former yugoslavia, these _ balkan countries, former yugoslavia, these countries were at war and they voted _ these countries were at war and they voted for— these countries were at war and they voted for each other in eurovision! it's voted for each other in eurovision! it's maybe — voted for each other in eurovision! it's maybe not so much a political alignment as musical and cultural empathy, understanding the essence of it in another country, for scotland and england if they were independent, i cannot imagine scotland voting for england or the welsh for that matter. just throwing that one end. i

welsh for that matter. just throwing that one end-— that one end. i can see the proclaimers _ that one end. i can see the proclaimers on _ that one end. i can see the proclaimers on eurovision! | that one end. i can see the | proclaimers on eurovision! i that one end. i can see the - proclaimers on eurovision! i would love to see — proclaimers on eurovision! i would love to see the _ proclaimers on eurovision! i would love to see the proclaimers - proclaimers on eurovision! i would love to see the proclaimers on - love to see the proclaimers on eurovision. it love to see the proclaimers on eurovision-— eurovision. it is all about the son: , eurovision. it is all about the sons, if eurovision. it is all about the song. if you _ eurovision. it is all about the song, if you make _ eurovision. it is all about the song, if you make people - eurovision. it is all about the | song, if you make people fall asleep, they will not vote for you. beautifully inconsistent. who asleep, they will not vote for you. beautifully inconsistent.— beautifully inconsistent. who the winner will be _ beautifully inconsistent. who the winner will be and _ beautifully inconsistent. who the winner will be and what - beautifully inconsistent. who the winner will be and what is - beautifully inconsistent. who the winner will be and what is a - winner will be and what is a eurovision— winner will be and what is a eurovision winner, - winner will be and what is a eurovision winner, it - winner will be and what is a i eurovision winner, it changes winner will be and what is a - eurovision winner, it changes every yeah _ eurovision winner, it changes every yeah and _ eurovision winner, it changes every yeah and i— eurovision winner, it changes every yeah and i agree _ eurovision winner, it changes every year. and i agree with _ eurovision winner, it changes every year. and i agree with the - eurovision winner, it changes every year. and i agree with the politicall year. and i agree with the political element _ year. and i agree with the political element as— year. and i agree with the political element as well. _ year. and i agree with the political element as well. it _ year. and i agree with the political element as well. it feels _ year. and i agree with the political element as well. it feels like - year. and i agree with the political element as well. it feels like thatl element as well. it feels like that is something _ element as well. it feels like that is something we _ element as well. it feels like that is something we have _ element as well. it feels like that is something we have meet - element as well. it feels like that is something we have meet up. l is something we have meet up. because — is something we have meet up. because things _ is something we have meet up. because things have _ is something we have meet up. because things have not- is something we have meet up. because things have not gone i is something we have meet up. . because things have not gone our is something we have meet up. - because things have not gone our way the last— because things have not gone our way the last couple — because things have not gone our way the last couple of— because things have not gone our way the last couple of years, _ because things have not gone our way the last couple of years, i— because things have not gone our way the last couple of years, i do - because things have not gone our way the last couple of years, i do not - the last couple of years, i do not think— the last couple of years, i do not think it _ the last couple of years, i do not think it is — the last couple of years, i do not think it is that— the last couple of years, i do not think it is that political, - the last couple of years, i do not think it is that political, you - the last couple of years, i do not think it is that political, you justl think it is that political, you just need _ think it is that political, you just need to— think it is that political, you just need to have _ think it is that political, you just need to have the _ think it is that political, you just need to have the song - think it is that political, you just need to have the song and - think it is that political, you just need to have the song and the i need to have the song and the performance _ need to have the song and the performance and _ need to have the song and the performance and it _ need to have the song and the performance and it needs - need to have the song and the performance and it needs to l need to have the song and the - performance and it needs to stand out. 1967, sergeant pepper came out, a defining moment in western civilisation. it was flower power, the year of carnaby street. it was the year of carnaby street. it was the year of the hippy, the summer of love. there was a musical explosion of culture in this country. we had

sandie shaw, puppet 0n of culture in this country. we had sandie shaw, puppet on a string. listen to this. # i wonder if one day that you will say that you care. # if you say you love me madly, i would gladly be there like a puppet on a string. # i #imay # i may win on the roundabouts when i lose on the swings. # in our love, there is never a doubt, just who is pulling the strings. #. strings. #-- w5 w ,, m #. to we like that still? it's a classic. #. to we like that still? it's a classic- do — #. to we like that still? it's a classic. do you _ #. to we like that still? it's a classic. do you like _ #. to we like that still? it's a classic. do you like it, - #. to we like that still? it's a i classic. do you like it, alistair? that is the _ classic. do you like it, alistair? that is the type _ classic. do you like it, alistair? that is the type of _ classic. do you like it, alistair? that is the type of song - classic. do you like it, alistair? that is the type of song you - classic. do you like it, alistair? i that is the type of song you need. as i

that is the type of song you need. as i said _ that is the type of song you need. as i said to — that is the type of song you need. as i said to the producer when she called. _ as i said to the producer when she called. you — as i said to the producer when she called, you could put the teletubbies, the one bulls or mr btobby— teletubbies, the one bulls or mr blobby on with a great song and that is what _ blobby on with a great song and that is what will— blobby on with a great song and that is what will attract an audience. that— is what will attract an audience. that is— is what will attract an audience. that is a — is what will attract an audience. that is a great song, nicki, isn't it? �* , ., that is a great song, nicki, isn't it? �*, ., .,, that is a great song, nicki, isn't it? �*, ., ., , that is a great song, nicki, isn't it? , �*, it? it's a fabulous song, but it's old style- _ it? it's a fabulous song, but it's old style. eurovision _ it? it's a fabulous song, but it's old style. eurovision has - it? it's a fabulous song, but it'si old style. eurovision has moved it? it's a fabulous song, but it's i old style. eurovision has moved on from _ old style. eurovision has moved on from that— old style. eurovision has moved on from that sort _ old style. eurovision has moved on from that sort of— old style. eurovision has moved on from that sort of stuff. _ old style. eurovision has moved on from that sort of stuff. we - old style. eurovision has moved on from that sort of stuff. we have i old style. eurovision has moved oni from that sort of stuff. we have got mans' _ from that sort of stuff. we have got mans' song. — from that sort of stuff. we have got mans' song, which _ from that sort of stuff. we have got mans' song, which was _ from that sort of stuff. we have got mans' song, which was so - from that sort of stuff. we have got mans' song, which was so modern i from that sort of stuff. we have got i mans' song, which was so modern and decent _ mans' song, which was so modern and decent it— mans' song, which was so modern and decent it was— mans' song, which was so modern and decent it was a— mans' song, which was so modern and decent. it was a great _ mans' song, which was so modern and decent. it was a great performance, i decent. it was a great performance, great _ decent. it was a great performance, great song. — decent. it was a great performance, great song. great _ decent. it was a great performance, great song, great singing. - decent. it was a great performance, great song, great singing. same i decent. it was a great performance, i great song, great singing. same with sam ryder~ _ great song, great singing. same with sam ryder~ same _ great song, great singing. same with sam ryder. same with— great song, great singing. same with sam ryder. same with quite - great song, great singing. same with sam ryder. same with quite a i great song, great singing. same with sam ryder. same with quite a few. great song, great singing. same with sam ryder. same with quite a few ofi sam ryder. same with quite a few of the last— sam ryder. same with quite a few of the last few— sam ryder. same with quite a few of the last few years. _ sam ryder. same with quite a few of the last few years. you _ sam ryder. same with quite a few of the last few years.— the last few years. you could do a 2023 version _ the last few years. you could do a 2023 version of _ the last few years. you could do a 2023 version of that _ the last few years. you could do a 2023 version of that song. i the last few years. you could do a 2023 version of that song. yeah, | the last few years. you could do a i 2023 version of that song. yeah, but it would have — 2023 version of that song. yeah, but it would have to _ 2023 version of that song. yeah, but it would have to be _ 2023 version of that song. yeah, but it would have to be more _ 2023 version of that song. yeah, but it would have to be more modern. i 2023 version of that song. yeah, but it would have to be more modern. a| it would have to be more modern. tune is a tune. more to come.

here is the news from matthew bone. the much belgian police say they arrested 64 people in london on saturday ahead of the coronation. —— the metropolitan police have arrested 64 people. anti—monarchy activists said the approach taken by officers have been heavy—handed. the met said it was proportionate. bbc analysis has found a number of pharmacies in england has fallen to its lower level since 2015. 160 closed over the past two years, leaving just over community chemists. the caribbean nation of st kitts and nevis is to hold a public consultation on whether to remove king charles as their head of state. the prime minister said his country was not totally free unless that happened. and more than 50,000

volunteering events are being held across the uk to mark the final day of the coronation celebrations. people are being encouraged to take part in the big help 0ut people are being encouraged to take part in the big help out to build a lasting volunteering legacy. the king and queen are not expected to attend any events, but other roles well. katie smith is here with the sport. "we are doing what we have to do", says arsenal boss mikel arteta — and it's pretty simple, they can only win in their last three games if theyre to lift the premier league title — they beat newcastle 2—0 away from home yesterday to close the gap to just a point — city have played a game fewer. today, the focus is at the other end of the table with 4 of the bottom 5 clubs in action — everton and nottingham forest could both move out of the relegation zone if they avoid defeat — you can listen to commentary of fulham leicester city at 3 and brighton everton at 5.30 on 5live. former celtic defender alan stubbs has told 5live premier league clubs will be eyeing up ange postecoglou after the manager guided celtic to a second scottish premiership title since he took charge —

they beat hearts to secure the trophy with 4 games to spare. and max verstappen said he was surprised by his pace advantage over red bull teammate sergio perez — he charged through from 9th on the grid to win the miami grand prix and extend his lead in the title race to 14pts.

the magic of eurovision, that is what we are discussing for obvious reasons. pauljordan, doctor eurovision, is here. he knows everything there is to know that eurovision doesn't have a clue as to how to get a ticket because he's not going. nicki french, former uk entrant in 2000, and another man who knows, mans zelmerlow, who won eurovision fit sweden in 2015. let me bring in a friend of mine, a musical legend and great songwriter because we made an album together. kate robbins, how are you? are you looking forward to this in your home city? looking forward to this in your home ci ? �* �* . ., city? i'm in belgium at the moment. every year. — city? i'm in belgium at the moment. every year. it — city? i'm in belgium at the moment. every year, it reminds _ city? i'm in belgium at the moment. every year, it reminds me _ city? i'm in belgium at the moment. every year, it reminds me of- city? i'm in belgium at the moment. every year, it reminds me of 1980, i every year, it reminds me of 1980, when i was in that group called prima donna. to say it was a trial,

we were at the hague! it was my first television ever. i was incredibly young and there were three boys, three girls. we thought, coming third was awful. we thought, we didn't win! and then we went and got drunk with terry wogan. it was fantastic. but what an experience. people trying to pull red wine over each other�*s white lycra trousers backstage. there was sabotage and all sorts. my dearfriend nicki french, i know her well. all sorts. my dear friend nicki french, i know her well. lovely to hear from — french, i know her well. lovely to hear from you! — french, i know her well. lovely to hear from you! how _ french, i know her well. lovely to hear from you! how are _ french, i know her well. lovely to hear from you! how are you? i i french, i know her well. lovely to | hear from you! how are you? i am doinu hear from you! how are you? i am doing more _ hear from you! how are you? i am doing more acting _ hear from you! how are you? i am doing more acting these _ hear from you! how are you? mn doing more acting these days than singing. it doing more acting these days than sinauin. , ., doing more acting these days than sinauin. ,. ., _, singing. it is a eurovision survivors _ singing. it is a eurovision survivors club. _

singing. it is a eurovision i survivors club. absolutely! my ounuer survivors club. absolutely! my younger sister _ survivors club. absolutely! my younger sisterjane, _ survivors club. absolutely! my younger sisterjane, who i survivors club. absolutely! my younger sisterjane, who is i survivors club. absolutely! my younger sisterjane, who is an i younger sisterjane, who is an eminent artist now, she was about 16 at the time, and dancer girl called sallyanne who was a big west end star and then three guys had all gone off to do music in other areas. one of them is not with us any more, lovely danny. but we did have fun. as soon as we went up there, they dressed us in dutch outfits and we were eating id until it came out of our ears. i kept saying, why are they putting these stupid hats on us? they said, they are dutch hats. every photo opportunity, we had to be just like that and i said, every photo opportunity, we had to bejust like that and i said, can every photo opportunity, we had to be just like that and i said, can we get rid of the dutch outfits? i was already being bossy at that age. but apart from too much edam cheese and the terrible dutch outfits, it was a

real experience. i got terrible flu on arriving. i had to go to bed the day we arrived. i had never been abroad and i was terrified. i was in bed, shaking. something came and gave me an injection in my bottom and it must have been vitamin c. the next day, i was fine!— next day, i was fine! highly suspicious. _ next day, i was fine! highly suspicious. it _ next day, i was fine! highly suspicious. it was - next day, i was fine! highly suspicious. it was very i next day, i was fine! highly| suspicious. it was very odd. next day, i was fine! highly i suspicious. it was very odd. but there was _ suspicious. it was very odd. but there was sabotage _ suspicious. it was very odd. but there was sabotage backstage, | suspicious. it was very odd. but i there was sabotage backstage, people trying to push each other in the corridors and stuff. pauljordan's e ebrows corridors and stuff. pauljordan's eyebrows iust — corridors and stuff. pauljordan's eyebrows just raised _ corridors and stuff. pauljordan's eyebrows just raised to - corridors and stuff. pauljordan's eyebrows just raised to the i corridors and stuff. pauljordan's| eyebrowsjust raised to the skies. eyebrows just raised to the skies. he is a doctorate in eurovision and he mentioned sabotage, people shoving each other. i did he mentioned sabotage, people shoving each other.— he mentioned sabotage, people shoving each other. i did see one airl shoving each other. i did see one girl shelved _ shoving each other. i did see one girl shelved and _ shoving each other. i did see one girl shelved and she _ shoving each other. i did see one girl shelved and she was i shoving each other. i did see one girl shelved and she was wearing | girl shelved and she was wearing white, shiny trousers and the person who shoved her had a glass of red

wine. i rememberthinking, this is going to get a bit tricky. i am sure that doesn't go on these dates. we are talking back in 1833, when i did it. . , , ., , it. that definitely still does ha - en. it. that definitely still does happen- the _ it. that definitely still does happen. the dance i it. that definitely still does| happen. the dance routine, it. that definitely still does i happen. the dance routine, i think! was in therapy _ happen. the dance routine, i think! was in therapy for _ happen. the dance routine, i think! was in therapy for years _ happen. the dance routine, i think! was in therapy for years trying i happen. the dance routine, i think! was in therapy for years trying to i was in therapy for years trying to get over it. it was a very strange dance routine. irate get over it. it was a very strange dance routine.— get over it. it was a very strange dance routine. we can listen and watch. # if there' # s a place in your heart for me # there's a room in my place for you # cos i've got love enough # yes, i've got love enough # love enough for two

# if there's a time in your life for me # i've got a lifetime to spend with you # cos i've got love enough... # yes, i've got love enough... # love enough for two #it # it isn't every day you meet someone you want to build your wildest dreams upon. love enough for two, what does that mean, kate? i love enough for two, what does that mean. kate?— mean, kate? i don't know. ithink it is by one. — mean, kate? i don't know. ithink it is by one. get _ mean, kate? i don't know. ithink it is by one. get one _ mean, kate? i don't know. ithink it is by one, get one free. _ mean, kate? i don't know. ithink it is by one, get one free. do i mean, kate? i don't know. ithink it is by one, get one free. do you i is by one, get one free. do you think that _ is by one, get one free. do you think that is — is by one, get one free. do you think that is a _ is by one, get one free. do you think that is a prerequisite i is by one, get one free. do you think that is a prerequisite of. is by one, get one free. do you think that is a prerequisite of a | think that is a prerequisite of a relationship?

i have only got love enough for one, that's it. . . , , , that's it. nicky, it was the best exoerience- — that's it. nicky, it was the best experience. to _ that's it. nicky, it was the best experience. to know _ that's it. nicky, it was the best experience. to know that i that's it. nicky, it was the best experience. to know that you i that's it. nicky, it was the best i experience. to know that you were singing live, there was an orchestra in those days, no backing track. and all our harmonies were real. i remember the orchestra pitched it up, but it was a fantastic experience in live performing for me and it was my first time on telly. i think that, i was at the rsc, rochdale social club.- think that, i was at the rsc, rochdale social club. mans, that was a tood rochdale social club. mans, that was a good song — rochdale social club. mans, that was a good song for _ rochdale social club. mans, that was a good song for that _ rochdale social club. mans, that was a good song for that time. _ rochdale social club. mans, that was a good song for that time. it's i rochdale social club. mans, that was a good song for that time. it's a i a good song for that time. it's a treat a good song for that time. it's a great tune- _ a good song for that time. it's a great tune- it — a good song for that time. it's a great tune. it was _ a good song for that time. it's a great tune. it was written i a good song for that time. it's a great tune. it was written by i great tune. it was written by stephanie — great tune. it was written by stephanie de _ great tune. it was written by

stephanie de sykes. i great tune. it was written by stephanie de sykes. she i great tune. it was written by | stephanie de sykes. she was great tune. it was written by i stephanie de sykes. she was born with a smile _ stephanie de sykes. she was born with a smile on _ stephanie de sykes. she was born with a smile on her _ stephanie de sykes. she was born with a smile on her face. - stephanie de sykes. she was born | with a smile on her face. stephanie had written — with a smile on her face. stephanie had written some _ with a smile on her face. stephanie had written some other _ with a smile on her face. stephanie had written some other hits i with a smile on her face. stephanie | had written some other hits before. she said to me, do you know anybody who looks like you who can sing? i said yeah, my younger sisterjane. butjane was doing said yeah, my younger sisterjane. but jane was doing other things at the time. what a funny time that was. she is a serious sculptor now. we can barely remember doing it, it was that long ago. but fantastic. every year, i get nervous if i'm watching. i will be watching in belgium this year, because i am filming over there. every year i get that feeling. i know how they are feeling before they go on. it's a brilliant feeling, nicki french. it brilliant feeling, nicki french. it really is. you did us proud, girl.

mans— really is. you did us proud, girl. mans witt— really is. you did us proud, girl. mans will agree, it's the most exciting — mans will agree, it's the most exciting feeling, representing your country _ exciting feeling, representing your country. as you said, the live vocals — country. as you said, the live vocals is _ country. as you said, the live vocals is why i have always loved eurovision — vocals is why i have always loved eurovision. untilthe vocals is why i have always loved eurovision. until the last couple of years. _ eurovision. until the last couple of years, where they had to get the show— years, where they had to get the show going, so they allowed pre—recorded backing vocals. but before _ pre—recorded backing vocals. but before that, it was always completely live vocals. when the shadows did _ completely live vocals. when the shadows did it, _ completely live vocals. when the shadows did it, when _ completely live vocals. when the shadows did it, when was i completely live vocals. when the shadows did it, when was that? i completely live vocals. when the i shadows did it, when was that? that was 1864! i am _ shadows did it, when was that? that was 1864! i am sure _ shadows did it, when was that? that was 1864! i am sure i— shadows did it, when was that? that was 1864! i am sure i remember- shadows did it, when was that? that i was 1864! i am sure i remember bruce welsh being _ was 1864! i am sure i remember bruce welsh being nervous. _ was 1864! i am sure i remember bruce welsh being nervous. i _ was 1864! i am sure i remember bruce welsh being nervous. i liked _ was 1864! i am sure i remember bruce welsh being nervous. i liked that i welsh being nervous. i liked that sont. welsh being nervous. i liked that son:. i welsh being nervous. i liked that song. i remember— welsh being nervous. i liked that song. i remember the _ welsh being nervous. i liked that song. i remember the slip i welsh being nervous. i liked that song. i remember the slip of i welsh being nervous. i liked that song. i remember the slip of the | song. i remember the slip of the tonaue. song. i remember the slip of the tongue- the _ song. i remember the slip of the tongue. the song _ song. i remember the slip of the

tongue. the song was _ song. i remember the slip of the tongue. the song was supposed | song. i remember the slip of the i tongue. the song was supposed to be let me be the one who is loving you, but it came out as ruving you. tom, how are you doing? i but it came out as ruving you. tom, how are you doing?— how are you doing? i am all white and super — how are you doing? i am all white and super excited. _ how are you doing? i am all white and super excited. this _ how are you doing? i am all white and super excited. this is i how are you doing? i am all white and super excited. this is my i and super excited. this is my christmas. _ and super excited. this is my christmas, basically. - and super excited. this is my christmas, basically. i- and super excited. this is my christmas, basically. i am i and super excited. this is my christmas, basically. lam so| and super excited. this is my- christmas, basically. i am so happy that i_ christmas, basically. i am so happy that i am _ christmas, basically. i am so happy that i am finally— christmas, basically. i am so happy that i am finally going _ christmas, basically. i am so happy that i am finally going to _ christmas, basically. i am so happy that i am finally going to be - that i am finally going to be celebrating _ that i am finally going to be celebrating eurovision- that i am finally going to be celebrating eurovision ini that i am finally going to he| celebrating eurovision in the that i am finally going to be i celebrating eurovision in the uk, which _ celebrating eurovision in the uk, which is — celebrating eurovision in the uk, which is weird _ celebrating eurovision in the uk, which is weird in _ celebrating eurovision in the uk, which is weird in itself, - celebrating eurovision in the uk, which is weird in itself, with- celebrating eurovision in the uk, which is weird in itself, with myl which is weird in itself, with my husband — which is weird in itself, with my husband. ., , .. which is weird in itself, with my husband. . .. which is weird in itself, with my husband. . ., . ., husband. have you got a golden ticket? i have! _ husband. have you got a golden ticket? i have! got _ husband. have you got a golden ticket? i have! got tickets i husband. have you got a golden ticket? i have! got tickets for i husband. have you got a goldenl ticket? i have! got tickets for the . rand ticket? i have! got tickets for the grand final _ ticket? i have! got tickets for the grand final and _ ticket? i have! got tickets for the grand final and tickets _ ticket? i have! got tickets for the grand final and tickets for - ticket? i have! got tickets for the grand final and tickets for a - ticket? i have! got tickets for the l grand final and tickets for a couple of the _ grand final and tickets for a couple of the rehearsals _ grand final and tickets for a couple of the rehearsals of— grand final and tickets for a couple of the rehearsals of the _ grand final and tickets for a couple of the rehearsals of the semifinals�* of the rehearsals of the semifinals as welt _ of the rehearsals of the semifinals as welt my— of the rehearsals of the semifinals as welt my best _ of the rehearsals of the semifinals as well. my best friend _ of the rehearsals of the semifinals as well. my best friend is - of the rehearsals of the semifinals as well. my best friend is coming i of the rehearsals of the semifinals i as well. my best friend is coming up from london — as well. my best friend is coming up from london to— as well. my best friend is coming up from london to join _ as well. my best friend is coming up from london to join me _ as well. my best friend is coming up from london tojoin me for- as well. my best friend is coming up from london tojoin me for one - as well. my best friend is coming up from london tojoin me for one of. from london tojoin me for one of thosa _ from london to 'oin me for one of those. ., ., ., ., ., those. you are going to have the time of your— those. you are going to have the time of your life. _

those. you are going to have the time of your life. coming - those. you are going to have the time of your life. coming from i time of your life. coming from merseyside myself, i think a drink or two might be taken.— merseyside myself, i think a drink or two might be taken. some bucks fizz. i 'ust or two might be taken. some bucks fizz iiust horse _ or two might be taken. some bucks fizz. ijust hope they _ or two might be taken. some bucks fizz. ijust hope they have - or two might be taken. some bucks fizz. ijust hope they have ordered i fizz. ijust hope they have ordered enouah fizz. ijust hope they have ordered enough for _ fizz. ijust hope they have ordered enough for the — fizz. ijust hope they have ordered enough for the rest _ fizz. ijust hope they have ordered enough for the rest of _ fizz. ijust hope they have ordered enough for the rest of the - fizz. ijust hope they have ordered enough for the rest of the week, i enough for the rest of the week, because — enough for the rest of the week, because we are starting tonight. i am because we are starting tonight. am seeing because we are starting tonight. i am seeing you tomorrow night. you are doing _ am seeing you tomorrow night. you are doing a — am seeing you tomorrow night. you are doing a gig— am seeing you tomorrow night. you are doing a gig with— am seeing you tomorrow night. you are doing a gig with a _ am seeing you tomorrow night. you are doing a gig with a dj _ am seeing you tomorrow night. you are doing a gig with a dj called - am seeing you tomorrow night. you are doing a gig with a dj called mr. are doing a gig with a dj called mr darcy, _ are doing a gig with a dj called mr darcy. nicki. _ are doing a gig with a dj called mr darcy. nicki. 1— are doing a gig with a dj called mr darcy. nicki-— are doing a gig with a dj called mr darcy, nicki. i am. fantastic. come and say hello _ darcy, nicki. i am. fantastic. come and say hello. i _ darcy, nicki. i am. fantastic. come and say hello. i will _ darcy, nicki. i am. fantastic. come and say hello. i will do. _ darcy, nicki. i am. fantastic. come and say hello. i will do. have - darcy, nicki. i am. fantastic. come and say hello. i will do. have a - and say hello. i will do. have a ureat and say hello. i will do. have a great time. — and say hello. i will do. have a great time, tom. _ and say hello. i will do. have a great time, tom. he _ and say hello. i will do. have a great time, tom. he will. - and say hello. i will do. have a great time, tom. he will. i - and say hello. i will do. have a. great time, tom. he will. i wish and say hello. i will do. have a i great time, tom. he will. i wish i was u- great time, tom. he will. i wish i was up there- _ great time, tom. he will. i wish i was up there. she _ great time, tom. he will. i wish i was up there. she is _ great time, tom. he will. i wish i was up there. she is filming - great time, tom. he will. i wish i was up there. she is filming with | great time, tom. he will. i wish i l was up there. she is filming with a cast of stars- _

was up there. she is filming with a cast of stars. tom, _ was up there. she is filming with a cast of stars. tom, have _ was up there. she is filming with a cast of stars. tom, have you - was up there. she is filming with a cast of stars. tom, have you been| cast of stars. tom, have you been before? , , , , , ., before? yes. this is my first one in the uk. i before? yes. this is my first one in the uk- iwas— before? yes. this is my first one in the uk- i was a _ before? yes. this is my first one in the uk. i was a teeny _ before? yes. this is my first one in the uk. i was a teeny bit _ before? yes. this is my first one in the uk. i was a teeny bit too - before? yes. this is my first one in the uk. i was a teeny bit too young for birmingham _ the uk. i was a teeny bit too young for birmingham in _ the uk. i was a teeny bit too young for birmingham in 1998. _ the uk. i was a teeny bit too young for birmingham in 1998. but - the uk. i was a teeny bit too young for birmingham in 1998. but i - the uk. i was a teeny bit too young for birmingham in 1998. but i wentj for birmingham in 1998. but i went to turin— for birmingham in 1998. but i went to turin last — for birmingham in 1998. but i went to turin last year. _ for birmingham in 1998. but i went to turin last year. and _ for birmingham in 1998. but i went to turin last year. and i— for birmingham in 1998. but i went to turin last year. and i went - for birmingham in 1998. but i went to turin last year. and i went to . to turin last year. and i went to the one — to turin last year. and i went to the one with _ to turin last year. and i went to the one with a _ to turin last year. and i went to the one with a wonderful- to turin last year. and i went to the one with a wonderful lady. to turin last year. and i went to l the one with a wonderful lady with the one with a wonderful lady with the beard — the one with a wonderful lady with the beard who _ the one with a wonderful lady with the beard who did _ the one with a wonderful lady with the beard who did a _ the one with a wonderful lady with the beard who did a massive - the one with a wonderful lady with the beard who did a massive thing j the beard who did a massive thing for lgbt— the beard who did a massive thing for lgbt rights _ the beard who did a massive thing for lgbt rights across _ the beard who did a massive thing for lgbt rights across europe. - the beard who did a massive thing for lgbt rights across europe. we�* for lgbt rights across europe. we call her for lgbt rights across europe. call her conchita best. for lgbt rights across europe. we call her conchita best. she - for lgbt rights across europe. we call her conchita best. she is - for lgbt rights across europe. we call her conchita best. she is the l call her conchita best. she is the best. did call her conchita best. she is the best- did you _ call her conchita best. she is the best. did you go _ call her conchita best. she is the best. did you go to _ call her conchita best. she is the best. did you go to stockholm, l call her conchita best. she is the - best. did you go to stockholm, tom? no, i best. did you go to stockholm, tom? no. i never — best. did you go to stockholm, tom? no, i never made _ best. did you go to stockholm, tom? no, i never made it _ best. did you go to stockholm, tom? no, i never made it to _ best. did you go to stockholm, tom? no, i never made it to stockholm. - no, i never made it to stockholm. there's _ no, i never made it to stockholm. there's a — no, i never made it to stockholm. there's a chance _ no, i never made it to stockholm. there's a chance that _ no, i never made it to stockholm. there's a chance that sweden - no, i never made it to stockholm. i there's a chance that sweden might win it _ there's a chance that sweden might win it this— there's a chance that sweden might win it this year— there's a chance that sweden might win it this year was _ there's a chance that sweden might win it this year was that _ there's a chance that sweden might win it this year was that that - there's a chance that sweden might win it this year was that that is - win it this year was that that is where — win it this year was that that is where the _ win it this year was that that is where the wind _ win it this year was that that is where the wind seems - win it this year was that that is where the wind seems to - win it this year was that that is where the wind seems to be i win it this year was that that is - where the wind seems to be blowing. the rehearsals — where the wind seems to be blowing. the rehearsals are _ where the wind seems to be blowing. the rehearsals are looking _ where the wind seems to be blowing. the rehearsals are looking 0k. -

where the wind seems to be blowing. the rehearsals are looking ok. but. the rehearsals are looking ok. but my money— the rehearsals are looking ok. but my money is— the rehearsals are looking ok. but my money is on— the rehearsals are looking ok. but my money is on finland. _ the rehearsals are looking ok. but my money is on finland. it's - the rehearsals are looking ok. but my money is on finland. it's crazy, it's everything _ my money is on finland. it's crazy, it's everything that _ my money is on finland. it's crazy, it's everything that eurovision - it's everything that eurovision shoutd — it's everything that eurovision should he _ it's everything that eurovision should be. the _ it's everything that eurovision should be. the guy— it's everything that eurovision should be. the guy is- it's everything that eurovision should be. the guy is in- it's everything that eurovisionl should be. the guy is in bolero jacket — should be. the guy is in bolero jacket with— should be. the guy is in bolero jacket with a _ should be. the guy is in bolero jacket with a shirtless - should be. the guy is in bolero jacket with a shirtless torso . should be. the guy is in bolerol jacket with a shirtless torso and it's perfect _ jacket with a shirtless torso and it's perfect-— jacket with a shirtless torso and it's erfect. ~ . ., ., , it's perfect. what about our entry, what do you _ it's perfect. what about our entry, what do you think? _ it's perfect. what about our entry, what do you think? i _ it's perfect. what about our entry, what do you think? i like - it's perfect. what about our entry, what do you think? i like it. - it's perfect. what about our entry, what do you think? i like it. mae l what do you think? i like it. mae seems really _ what do you think? i like it. mae seems really fun _ what do you think? i like it. mae seems really fun and _ what do you think? i like it. mae seems really fun and energetic. | what do you think? i like it. mae . seems really fun and energetic. she will be _ seems really fun and energetic. she will be a _ seems really fun and energetic. she will be a massive _ seems really fun and energetic. she will be a massive star— seems really fun and energetic. she will be a massive star in _ seems really fun and energetic. she will be a massive star in the - will be a massive star in the future _ will be a massive star in the future i_ will be a massive star in the future i am _ will be a massive star in the future. i am trying - will be a massive star in the future. i am trying not- will be a massive star in the future. i am trying not to i will be a massive star in the l future. i am trying not to get will be a massive star in the - future. i am trying not to get my hopes— future. i am trying not to get my hopes up— future. i am trying not to get my hopes up too— future. i am trying not to get my hopes up too much. _ future. i am trying not to get my hopes up too much. i— future. i am trying not to get my hopes up too much. i don't - future. i am trying not to get my hopes up too much. i don't think last year— hopes up too much. i don't think last year was _ hopes up too much. i don't think last year was a _ hopes up too much. i don't think last year was a fluke, _ hopes up too much. i don't think last year was a fluke, but - hopes up too much. i don't think last year was a fluke, but there. hopes up too much. i don't think. last year was a fluke, but there are so many— last year was a fluke, but there are so many good _ last year was a fluke, but there are so many good things _ last year was a fluke, but there are so many good things going - last year was a fluke, but there are so many good things going on - last year was a fluke, but there are so many good things going on thisi so many good things going on this year that— so many good things going on this year that we — so many good things going on this year that we should _ so many good things going on this year that we should be _ so many good things going on this year that we should be happy- so many good things going on this year that we should be happy to l so many good things going on this i year that we should be happy to get top ten _ year that we should be happy to get top ten~ [_ year that we should be happy to get to ten. ~ , ., top ten. i think she might do it. you know— top ten. i think she might do it. you know about _ top ten. i think she might do it. you know about songs, - top ten. i think she might do it. you know about songs, kate. i top ten. i think she might do it. - you know about songs, kate. nicky cambell, you know about songs, kate. nicky campbell. as _ you know about songs, kate. nicky campbell. as you — you know about songs, kate. nicky campbell, as you pointed _ you know about songs, kate. it £411! campbell, as you pointed out, the course is easy to sing. da—da—da—da!

it's a perfect eurovision song —— the chorus is easy to sing. taste it's a perfect eurovision song -- the chorus is easy to sing. we have to manage — the chorus is easy to sing. we have to manage our _ the chorus is easy to sing. we have to manage our expectation - the chorus is easy to sing. we have to manage our expectation is - the chorus is easy to sing. we have to manage our expectation is a - the chorus is easy to sing. we have to manage our expectation is a bitl to manage our expectation is a bit here _ to manage our expectation is a bit here. did— to manage our expectation is a bit here. , , ., , to manage our expectation is a bit here. , , here. did you 'ust say it was easy to sin in here. did you 'ust say it was easy to sing in any— here. did you just say it was easy to sing in any language, - to sing in any language, da—da—da—da? j to sing in any language, da-da-da-da?_ to sing in any language, da-da-da-da? and this da-da-da-da? i thinki did! and this is wh da-da-da-da? i think! did! and this is wh we da-da-da-da? i think! did! and this is why we love _ da-da-da-da? i think! did! and this is why we love kate _ da-da-da-da? i think! did! and this is why we love kate robbins. - da-da-da-da? i think! did! and this is why we love kate robbins. i- da-da-da-da? i think! did! and this is why we love kate robbins. i have| is why we love kate robbins. i have not to no is why we love kate robbins. i have got to go now- _ is why we love kate robbins. i have got to go now. lovely _ is why we love kate robbins. i have got to go now. lovely having - is why we love kate robbins. i have got to go now. lovely having you i is why we love kate robbins. i have l got to go now. lovely having you on, kate. got to go now. lovely having you on, kate- love — got to go now. lovely having you on, kate- love to — got to go now. lovely having you on, kate. love to the _ got to go now. lovely having you on, kate. love to the family. _ got to go now. lovely having you on, kate. love to the family. i _ got to go now. lovely having you on, kate. love to the family. i was i kate. love to the family. i was lookin: kate. love to the family. i was looking for _ kate. love to the family. i was looking for a — kate. love to the family. i was looking for a segue _ kate. love to the family. i was looking for a segue from i kate. love to the family. i was i looking for a segue from stockholm so that i could say sweden, abba, we have got to have a bit of this.

# my, my # at waterloo, napoleon did surrender # oh yeah # and i have met my destiny in quite a similar way # the history book on the shelf is always repeating itself # waterloo, i was defeated, you won the war # waterloo, promise to love you forevermore i remember watching it live. i remember watching the beatles do hey dude on some david frost show in 1968. and i have a memory of that. i was 13 and i remember thinking, genuinely, that is incredible. i love music and i thought, that is a piece of pop. and it has stood the

test of time. the piece of pop. and it has stood the test of time-— piece of pop. and it has stood the test of time. the performance was incredible and _ test of time. the performance was incredible and they _ test of time. the performance was incredible and they really - test of time. the performance was incredible and they really changed| incredible and they really changed eurovision — incredible and they really changed eurovision. they— incredible and they really changed eurovision. they have _ incredible and they really changed eurovision. they have won - incredible and they really changed i eurovision. they have won eurovision and carried _ eurovision. they have won eurovision and carried on— eurovision. they have won eurovision and carried on with _ eurovision. they have won eurovision and carried on with their— eurovision. they have won eurovision and carried on with their careers, i and carried on with their careers, but they— and carried on with their careers, but they have _ and carried on with their careers, but they have carried _ and carried on with their careers, but they have carried on - and carried on with their careers, but they have carried on loving i but they have carried on loving eurovision— but they have carried on loving eurovision and _ but they have carried on loving eurovision and talking - but they have carried on loving eurovision and talking about i but they have carried on loving | eurovision and talking about it. but they have carried on loving i eurovision and talking about it. i'm sure mans — eurovision and talking about it. i'm sure mans knows _ eurovision and talking about it. i'm sure mans knows them. _ eurovision and talking about it. i'm sure mans knows them. a - eurovision and talking about it. i'm sure mans knows them. a lot- eurovision and talking about it. i'm sure mans knows them. a lot of. sure mans knows them. a lot of people — sure mans knows them. a lot of people pretend _ sure mans knows them. a lot of people pretend they— sure mans knows them. a lot of people pretend they have - sure mans knows them. a lot of people pretend they have neverj sure mans knows them. a lot of- people pretend they have never done it afterwards — people pretend they have never done it afterwards. some _ people pretend they have never done it afterwards. some of _ people pretend they have never done it afterwards. some of the _ people pretend they have never done it afterwards. some of the previous i it afterwards. some of the previous artists— it afterwards. some of the previous artists who — it afterwards. some of the previous artists who have _ it afterwards. some of the previous artists who have criticised - artists who have criticised eurovision. _ artists who have criticised eurovision, now- artists who have criticised eurovision, now they- artists who have criticisedl eurovision, now they think artists who have criticised i eurovision, now they think it is coot— eurovision, now they think it is cool and — eurovision, now they think it is cool and they _ eurovision, now they think it is cool and they want _ eurovision, now they think it is cool and they want to - eurovision, now they think it is cool and they want to be - eurovision, now they think it is cool and they want to be part i eurovision, now they think it is| cool and they want to be part of eurovision, now they think it is i cool and they want to be part of it. my daughter— cool and they want to be part of it. my daughter is _ cool and they want to be part of it. my daughter is doing _ cool and they want to be part of it. my daughter is doing history- cool and they want to be part of it. my daughter is doing history at i my daughter is doing history at university and i would recommend to use that line in any of her essays. the history book on the shelf is always repeating itself. ain't that the truth? poetic. and sadly true. louise and st albans, hello? sorry, mans, what were you saying? isn’t louise and st albans, hello? sorry, mans, what were you saying? isn't it remarkable — mans, what were you saying? isn't it remarkable what _ mans, what were you saying? isn't it remarkable what sam _ mans, what were you saying? isn't it remarkable what sam ryder - mans, what were you saying? isn't it remarkable what sam ryder has i mans, what were you saying? isn't it|

remarkable what sam ryder has done for the _ remarkable what sam ryder has done for the contest — remarkable what sam ryder has done for the contest in _ remarkable what sam ryder has done for the contest in this _ remarkable what sam ryder has done for the contest in this country? - remarkable what sam ryder has done for the contest in this country? i- for the contest in this country? i have _ for the contest in this country? i have lived — for the contest in this country? i have lived here _ for the contest in this country? i have lived here for— for the contest in this country? i have lived here for seven - for the contest in this country? i have lived here for seven years. | for the contest in this country? i. have lived here for seven years. it feels _ have lived here for seven years. it feels like — have lived here for seven years. it feels like it— have lived here for seven years. it feels like it has— have lived here for seven years. it feels like it has been— have lived here for seven years. it feels like it has been found - have lived here for seven years. it feels like it has been found upon. feels like it has been found upon earlier— feels like it has been found upon earlier and — feels like it has been found upon earlierand then— feels like it has been found upon earlier and then in _ feels like it has been found upon earlier and then in the _ feels like it has been found upon earlier and then in the last- feels like it has been found upon earlier and then in the last year, | earlier and then in the last year, it has— earlier and then in the last year, it has exploded. _ earlier and then in the last year, it has exploded. it's _ earlier and then in the last year, it has exploded. it's completelyl it has exploded. it's completely different — it has exploded. it's completely different my— it has exploded. it's completely different. my wife _ it has exploded. it's completely different. my wife has - it has exploded. it's completely different. my wife has never- it has exploded. it's completely. different. my wife has never cared at all— different. my wife has never cared at all before, _ different. my wife has never cared at all before, and _ different. my wife has never cared at all before, and now _ different. my wife has never cared at all before, and now she - different. my wife has never cared at all before, and now she is - different. my wife has never cared at all before, and now she is all. at all before, and now she is all over— at all before, and now she is all over it — at all before, and now she is all over it. �* ., , ., over it. along with the rest of the uk! they have — over it. along with the rest of the uk! they have all— over it. along with the rest of the uk! they have all got _ over it. along with the rest of the uk! they have all got tickets i over it. along with the rest of the | uk! they have all got tickets apart from me. uk! they have all got tickets apart from me- i— uk! they have all got tickets apart from me. i don't _ uk! they have all got tickets apart from me. i don't have _ uk! they have all got tickets apart from me. i don't have ticket. i uk! they have all got tickets apart from me. i don't have ticket. 0h!| from me. i don't have ticket. 0h! how much _ from me. i don't have ticket. 0h! how much would _ from me. i don't have ticket. 0h! how much would you _ from me. i don't have ticket. 0h! how much would you give - from me. i don't have ticket. 0h! how much would you give for- from me. i don't have ticket. oh! i how much would you give for tickets? i bet you would love them, because i know you are a massive fan. 1 i bet you would love them, because i know you are a massive fan.- know you are a massive fan. i would love tickets. — know you are a massive fan. i would love tickets, but _ know you are a massive fan. i would love tickets, but i _ know you are a massive fan. i would love tickets, but i have _ know you are a massive fan. i would love tickets, but i have got - know you are a massive fan. i would love tickets, but i have got the i love tickets, but i have got the second prize, which is that this evening, i am going to the 02 to see maneskin. we saw them in milan for her birthday a month ago and they are so good, i wanted to see them again. and that is all thanks to

eurovision because i wouldn't know who they were without it. but the best thing for me is that i remember growing up watching it with my parents and loving the whole thing. and now my daughter, who is 1a, is the same. she tells her friends about it and some of them are like, eurovision, what is that? she is like, you don't know eurovision?! and she tries to get them all into it. we are having herfriends and next week to watch. 50 it's ok to have second prize. taste next week to watch. so it's ok to have second prize.— next week to watch. so it's ok to have second prize. we are lucky to have second prize. we are lucky to have eurovision. _ have second prize. we are lucky to have eurovision. we _ have second prize. we are lucky to have eurovision. we have - have second prize. we are lucky to have eurovision. we have all i have second prize. we are lucky to | have eurovision. we have all grown up have eurovision. we have all grown up with— have eurovision. we have all grown up with it _ have eurovision. we have all grown up with it and — have eurovision. we have all grown up with it and it— have eurovision. we have all grown up with it and it is— have eurovision. we have all grown up with it and it is something - have eurovision. we have all grown up with it and it is something we i up with it and it is something we have _ up with it and it is something we have in— up with it and it is something we have in common. _ up with it and it is something we have in common. you _ up with it and it is something we have in common. you can - up with it and it is something we have in common. you can go i up with it and it is something we have in common. you can go to| up with it and it is something we i have in common. you can go to any other— have in common. you can go to any other country— have in common. you can go to any other country and _ have in common. you can go to any other country and you _ have in common. you can go to any other country and you can - have in common. you can go to any other country and you can meet i other country and you can meet someone — other country and you can meet someone from _ other country and you can meet someone from spain, _ other country and you can meet someone from spain, norway, i other country and you can meet - someone from spain, norway, sweden think that _ someone from spain, norway, sweden think that everyone _ someone from spain, norway, sweden think that everyone has _ someone from spain, norway, sweden think that everyone has heard - someone from spain, norway, sweden think that everyone has heard of- someone from spain, norway, sweden think that everyone has heard of it. i think that everyone has heard of it. they might — think that everyone has heard of it. they might not _ think that everyone has heard of it. they might not like _ think that everyone has heard of it. they might not like it, _ think that everyone has heard of it. they might not like it, but- think that everyone has heard of it. they might not like it, but they i they might not like it, but they have _ they might not like it, but they have heard _ they might not like it, but they have heard of— they might not like it, but they have heard of it. _ they might not like it, but they have heard of it. and _ they might not like it, but they have heard of it. and people i they might not like it, but they i have heard of it. and people have -ot have heard of it. and people have got these — have heard of it. and people have got these memories. _ have heard of it. and people have got these memories. my- have heard of it. and people have got these memories. my mum i have heard of it. and people have - got these memories. my mum remembers sandie _ got these memories. my mum remembers sandie shaw— got these memories. my mum remembers sandie shaw from — got these memories. my mum remembers sandie shaw from 1967. _ got these memories. my mum remembers sandie shaw from 1967. my— got these memories. my mum remembers sandie shaw from 1967. my dad _ sandie shaw from 1967. my dad doesn't — sandie shaw from 1967. my dad doesn't really— sandie shaw from 1967. my dad doesn't really follow _ sandie shaw from 1967. my dad| doesn't really follow eurovision, but he _ doesn't really follow eurovision, but he remembers— doesn't really follow eurovision, but he remembers 1967- doesn't really follow eurovision,| but he remembers 1967 because doesn't really follow eurovision, i but he remembers 1967 because that was the _ but he remembers 1967 because that

was the year— but he remembers 1967 because that was the year celtic _ but he remembers 1967 because that was the year celtic won _ but he remembers 1967 because that was the year celtic won the - but he remembers 1967 because thatj was the year celtic won the european cup. was the year celtic won the european cu -. ., ., was the year celtic won the european cu . _ ., ., ., was the year celtic won the european cu. ., ., ., ., was the year celtic won the european cu. ., ., ., ., ., ., cup. you have got a doctorate in eurovision- _ cup. you have got a doctorate in eurovision. what _ cup. you have got a doctorate in eurovision. what was _ cup. you have got a doctorate in eurovision. what was the - cup. you have got a doctorate in l eurovision. what was the question cup. you have got a doctorate in i eurovision. what was the question on your dissertation? the eurovision. what was the question on your dissertation?— your dissertation? the title of the thesis was. _ your dissertation? the title of the thesis was, nation _ your dissertation? the title of the thesis was, nation branding i your dissertation? the title of the thesis was, nation branding and l thesis was, nation branding and nation—building _ thesis was, nation branding and nation—building in _ thesis was, nation branding and nation—building in estonia - thesis was, nation branding and nation—building in estonia and l nation—building in estonia and ukraine — nation—building in estonia and ukraine through _ nation—building in estonia and ukraine through the _ nation—building in estonia andi ukraine through the eurovision nation—building in estonia and - ukraine through the eurovision song contest _ ukraine through the eurovision song contest it— ukraine through the eurovision song contest. it looked _ ukraine through the eurovision song contest. it looked at _ ukraine through the eurovision song contest. it looked at the _ ukraine through the eurovision song contest. it looked at the eurovisionl contest. it looked at the eurovision was used _ contest. it looked at the eurovision was used as— contest. it looked at the eurovision was used as a — contest. it looked at the eurovision was used as a platform _ contest. it looked at the eurovision was used as a platform for - contest. it looked at the eurovision was used as a platform for these i was used as a platform for these countries — was used as a platform for these countries if— was used as a platform for these countries. if you _ was used as a platform for these countries. if you look— was used as a platform for these countries. if you look at - was used as a platform for these countries. if you look at how i was used as a platform for these i countries. if you look at how these countries _ countries. if you look at how these countries want _ countries. if you look at how these countries want to _ countries. if you look at how these countries want to be _ countries. if you look at how these countries want to be seen, - countries. if you look at how these countries want to be seen, that i countries want to be seen, that tells _ countries want to be seen, that tells you — countries want to be seen, that tells you about _ countries want to be seen, that tells you about what _ countries want to be seen, that tells you about what is - countries want to be seen, that tells you about what is going i countries want to be seen, that| tells you about what is going on within— tells you about what is going on within the — tells you about what is going on within the country— tells you about what is going on within the country itself. - tells you about what is going on within the country itself. these | within the country itself. these countries — within the country itself. these countries were _ within the country itself. these countries were trying _ within the country itself. these countries were trying to - within the country itself. these countries were trying to assert| countries were trying to assert themselves— countries were trying to assert themselves on _ countries were trying to assert themselves on the _ countries were trying to assert themselves on the world - countries were trying to assert. themselves on the world stage. countries were trying to assert - themselves on the world stage. they had been _ themselves on the world stage. they had been independent _ themselves on the world stage. they had been independent from - themselves on the world stage. they had been independent from the i themselves on the world stage. they. had been independent from the soviet union _ had been independent from the soviet union for— had been independent from the soviet union for a _ had been independent from the soviet union for a few— had been independent from the soviet union for a few years _ had been independent from the soviet union for a few years and _ had been independent from the soviet union for a few years and it _ had been independent from the soviet union for a few years and it was - union fora few years and it was about— union for a few years and it was about them _ union for a few years and it was about them saying _ union for a few years and it was about them saying they- union for a few years and it was about them saying they were i union for a few years and it was| about them saying they were not soviet _ about them saying they were not soviet in — about them saying they were not soviet in the _ about them saying they were not soviet. in the case _ about them saying they were not soviet. in the case of— about them saying they were not soviet. in the case of estonia, i about them saying they were not soviet. in the case of estonia, it| soviet. in the case of estonia, it was nordic _ soviet. in the case of estonia, it was nordic 50— soviet. in the case of estonia, it was nordic— was nordic. so it means a lot culturally _ was nordic. so it means a lot culturally and _ was nordic. so it means a lot culturally and musically - was nordic. so it means a lot culturally and musically and l culturally and musically and politically to people in those countries. politically to people in those countries-— politically to people in those countries. . , ~ . , countries. certainly ukraine. they first entered _ countries. certainly ukraine. they first entered to _ countries. certainly ukraine. they first entered to change _ countries. certainly ukraine. they first entered to change their - first entered to change their international— first entered to change their international image. - first entered to change their international image. they . first entered to change their. international image. they won first entered to change their- international image. they won it and then hosted — international image. they won it and then hosted it— international image. they won it and then hosted it and _ international image. they won it and then hosted it and they _ international image. they won it and then hosted it and they lifted - international image. they won it and then hosted it and they lifted their. then hosted it and they lifted their visa restrictions _ then hosted it and they lifted their visa restrictions for— then hosted it and they lifted their visa restrictions for tourists - then hosted it and they lifted their visa restrictions for tourists to - visa restrictions for tourists to come —

visa restrictions for tourists to come in — visa restrictions for tourists to come in for— visa restrictions for tourists to come in for three _ visa restrictions for tourists to come in for three months- visa restrictions for tourists to come in for three months for. come in for three months for eurovision _ come in for three months for eurovision. that— come in for three months for eurovision. that was - come in for three months for eurovision. that was a - come in for three months for eurovision. that was a trial l come in for three months for. eurovision. that was a trial and come in for three months for- eurovision. that was a trial and it is still— eurovision. that was a trial and it is still in — eurovision. that was a trial and it is still in place _ eurovision. that was a trial and it is still in place today. _ eurovision. that was a trial and it is still in place today. so - eurovision. that was a trial and it is still in place today. so that - eurovision. that was a trial and it is still in place today. so that asi is still in place today. so that as an example _ is still in place today. so that as an example of— is still in place today. so that as an example of eurovision- is still in place today. so that as i an example of eurovision changing ukraine's— an example of eurovision changing ukraine's foreign— an example of eurovision changing ukraine's foreign policy. _ an example of eurovision changing ukraine's foreign policy. of- an example of eurovision changing ukraine's foreign policy. of course, we remember _ ukraine's foreign policy. of course, we remember ukraine's _ ukraine's foreign policy. of course, we remember ukraine's kalush - we remember ukraine's kalush orchestra, who were crowned the 2022 winners with their performance of stefania. ~ . . winners with their performance of stefania. ~ . , . ., ., stefania. which is about one of their mothers. _ stefania. which is about one of their mothers. people - stefania. which is about one of their mothers. people talk - stefania. which is about one of i their mothers. people talk about whether— their mothers. people talk about whether that _ their mothers. people talk about whether that was _ their mothers. people talk about whether that was a _ their mothers. people talk about whether that was a political - their mothers. people talk about. whether that was a political thing. ithink— whether that was a political thing. i think it _ whether that was a political thing. i think it was _ whether that was a political thing. i think it was more _ whether that was a political thing. i think it was more about- i think it was more about solidarity _ i think it was more about solidarity. the _ i think it was more about solidarity. the vote - i think it was more about solidarity. the vote was| solidarity. the vote was overwhelmingly - solidarity. the vote was overwhelmingly for - solidarity. the vote was - overwhelmingly for ukraine. solidarity. the vote was _ overwhelmingly for ukraine. there were only — overwhelmingly for ukraine. there were only two _ overwhelmingly for ukraine. there were only two countries _ overwhelmingly for ukraine. there were only two countries that - overwhelmingly for ukraine. therei were only two countries that didn't -ive were only two countries that didn't give it— were only two countries that didn't give it 12 _ were only two countries that didn't give it 12 points. _ were only two countries that didn't give it 12 points, so— were only two countries that didn't give it 12 points, so there - were only two countries that didn't give it 12 points, so there was - were only two countries that didn't give it 12 points, so there was no l give it 12 points, so there was no arguing _ give it 12 points, so there was no arguing with _ give it 12 points, so there was no arguing with that. _ give it 12 points, so there was no arguing with that. and _ give it 12 points, so there was no arguing with that. and ukraine . give it 12 points, so there was no i arguing with that. and ukraine have always— arguing with that. and ukraine have always done — arguing with that. and ukraine have always done well— arguing with that. and ukraine have always done well in _ arguing with that. and ukraine have always done well in eurovision. - arguing with that. and ukraine have always done well in eurovision. it. always done well in eurovision. it is very— always done well in eurovision. it is very popular— always done well in eurovision. it is very popular there. _ always done well in eurovision. it is very popular there. so - always done well in eurovision. it is very popular there. so it's - is very popular there. so it's lovely— is very popular there. so it's lovely that— is very popular there. so it's lovely that we _ is very popular there. so it's lovely that we are _ is very popular there. so it's lovely that we are having - is very popular there. so it's lovely that we are having it. is very popular there. so it'si lovely that we are having it in is very popular there. so it's - lovely that we are having it in the uk on _ lovely that we are having it in the uk on behatf— lovely that we are having it in the uk on behalf of— lovely that we are having it in the uk on behalf of ukraine. - lovely that we are having it in the uk on behalf of ukraine. sam - lovely that we are having it in the . uk on behalf of ukraine. sam ryder said it— uk on behalf of ukraine. sam ryder said it is— uk on behalf of ukraine. sam ryder said it is ukraine's— uk on behalf of ukraine. sam ryder said it is ukraine's party, _ uk on behalf of ukraine. sam ryder said it is ukraine's party, but- uk on behalf of ukraine. sam ryder said it is ukraine's party, but we - said it is ukraine's party, but we are having — said it is ukraine's party, but we are having it— said it is ukraine's party, but we are having it at _ said it is ukraine's party, but we are having it at our— said it is ukraine's party, but we are having it at our house. - said it is ukraine's party, but we are having it at our house. let’s| are having it at our house. let's hear ukraine's _ are having it at our house. let's hear ukraine's stefania. -

music: stefania by kalush orchestra. i loved that funky pan flute. a mixture of tradition and pop music. it's mixture of tradition and pop music. it's a _ mixture of tradition and pop music. it's a good — mixture of tradition and pop music. it's a good mix. _ mixture of tradition and pop music. it's a good mix. it _ mixture of tradition and pop music. it's a good mix, it says— mixture of tradition and pop music. it's a good mix, it says something i it's a good mix, it says something about the country, but it is also contemporary. let's go with another caller. abhishek in liverpool, you went to the opening ceremony last night. tell us about it. it

went to the opening ceremony last night. tell us about it.— night. tell us about it. it was fun. i went night. tell us about it. it was fun. i went with _ night. tell us about it. it was fun. i went with my — night. tell us about it. it was fun. i went with my friends. _ night. tell us about it. it was fun. i went with my friends. i - night. tell us about it. it was fun. i went with my friends. i am - night. tell us about it. it was fun. i went with my friends. i am not l night. tell us about it. it was fun. i i went with my friends. i am not a big fan of music, but it was good connecting with friends. what big fan of music, but it was good connecting with friends. what were the audience _ connecting with friends. what were the audience like, _ connecting with friends. what were the audience like, a _ connecting with friends. what were the audience like, a great - connecting with friends. what were the audience like, a great mix - connecting with friends. what were the audience like, a great mix of. the audience like, a great mix of people? fit. the audience like, a great mix of --eole? �* ., , ., . people? a mix of people from all ethnicities. _ people? a mix of people from all ethnicities. i— people? a mix of people from all ethnicities. i was _ people? a mix of people from all ethnicities. i was standing - people? a mix of people from all ethnicities. i was standing next i people? a mix of people from all| ethnicities. i was standing next to a 90—year—old couple and it was fun to be with them. i really liked jamila, she was amazing. it was heart—warming. the national lottery and eurovision did a wonderfuljob. it was a good crowd. it’s

did a wonderful 'ob. it was a good crowd. �* . . did a wonderful 'ob. it was a good crowd. �* , . ., did a wonderful 'ob. it was a good crowd. �*, . . i. did a wonderful 'ob. it was a good crowd. �* , ., ., , ., ., crowd. it's great that you got in touch, crowd. it's great that you got in touch. thank— crowd. it's great that you got in touch, thank you. _ crowd. it's great that you got in touch, thank you. final- crowd. it's great that you got in | touch, thank you. final thoughts crowd. it's great that you got in - touch, thank you. final thoughts on what is in store, nicki french? what an honour to have you on the programme. an honour to have you on the programme-— an honour to have you on the rouramme. �*, , . ., ., ., , programme. it's been an honour to be here. 20 seconds _ programme. it's been an honour to be here. 20 seconds each, _ programme. it's been an honour to be here. 20 seconds each, what - programme. it's been an honour to be here. 20 seconds each, what are - programme. it's been an honour to be here. 20 seconds each, what are your| here. 20 seconds each, what are your thou . hts here. 20 seconds each, what are your thoughts on — here. 20 seconds each, what are your thoughts on the _ here. 20 seconds each, what are your thoughts on the we _ here. 20 seconds each, what are your thoughts on the we can _ here. 20 seconds each, what are your thoughts on the we can it's _ here. 20 seconds each, what are your thoughts on the we can it's going - here. 20 seconds each, what are your thoughts on the we can it's going to l thoughts on the we can it's going to be mad and glamorous and exciting and thrilling. be mad and glamorous and exciting and thrilling-— and thrilling. let's hope the uk does really _ and thrilling. let's hope the uk does really well. _ and thrilling. let's hope the uk does really well. mans - and thrilling. let's hope the uk - does really well. mans zelmerlow? i am so excited _ does really well. mans zelmerlow? i am so excited that _ does really well. mans zelmerlow? i am so excited that we _ does really well. mans zelmerlow? i am so excited that we are _ does really well. mans zelmerlow? i am so excited that we are hosting i does really well. mans zelmerlow? i am so excited that we are hosting it| am so excited that we are hosting it on behatf— am so excited that we are hosting it on behalf of— am so excited that we are hosting it on behalf of ukraine _ am so excited that we are hosting it on behalf of ukraine this _ am so excited that we are hosting it on behalf of ukraine this year. - am so excited that we are hosting it on behalf of ukraine this year. i- on behalf of ukraine this year. i feel that — on behalf of ukraine this year. i feel that liverpool— on behalf of ukraine this year. i feel that liverpool is _ on behalf of ukraine this year. i feel that liverpool is doing - on behalf of ukraine this year. i feel that liverpool is doing so l feel that liverpool is doing so much — feel that liverpool is doing so much its— feel that liverpool is doing so much. it's going _ feel that liverpool is doing so much. it's going to— feel that liverpool is doing so much. it's going to be - feel that liverpool is doing so much. it's going to be a - feel that liverpool is doing so much. it's going to be a great eurovision— much. it's going to be a great eurovision and _ much. it's going to be a great eurovision and a _ much. it's going to be a great eurovision and a very - much. it's going to be a great eurovision and a very excitingi eurovision and a very exciting finat — eurovision and a very exciting final. �* . eurovision and a very exciting final-_ the - eurovision and a very exciting final._ the people | eurovision and a very exciting| final._ the people of final. and paul? the people of ukraine will— final. and paul? the people of ukraine will obviously - final. and paul? the people of ukraine will obviously be - final. and paul? the people of ukraine will obviously be in . final. and paul? the people of| ukraine will obviously be in our thoughts, but it's also a moment to celebrate, being together after the pandemic. it is escapism and joyous and it's a lot of fun. i am hoping for a close victory and a victory for a close victory and a victory for finland because i have money on them. ~ ., , for finland because i have money on them. ., , . ., . them. who is the traditional scottish singer _

them. who is the traditional scottish singer who - them. who is the traditional- scottish singer who represented the uk in the 19505? scottish singer who represented the uk in the 1950s?— scottish singer who represented the uk in the 19505? ~ . ., uk in the 1950s? kenneth mckenna. he wore a kilt! live from london, this is bbc news. # the eye of the tiger... my my father has always understood that people of all faiths, all backgrounds and all communities deserve to be celebrated and supported. deserve to be celebrated and supported-— deserve to be celebrated and supported. deserve to be celebrated and su--orted. ~ ., , supported. millions of people will take art supported. millions of people will take part in _ supported. millions of people will take part in community _ supported. millions of people will take part in community events i supported. millions of people will- take part in community events across the uk to mark the final day of the coronation celebrations.

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