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live from london. this is bbc news. putin use his victory day in moscow to warn russians they are in a bilingualfor to warn russians they are in a bilingual for existence. to warn russians they are in a bilingualfor existence. —— battle. to the uk, where the labour leader sir keir starmer refuses to rule out a coalition with the liberal democrats if he fails to win a majority at the next general election. protests erupt across pakistan after its former prime minister imran khan was arrested in connection with a corruption case. social media being suspended in various parts of the country.
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welcome to the programme. russia's leader vladimir putin says civilisation is at a �*turning point�* because of the war in ukraine. he gave a speech in moscow marking the anniversary of soviet victory over the nazis in the second world war, called victory day. but the nomral parade was scaled back. here's our russia editor, steve rosenberg. he speaks russian. they chant in russian. it is the day russia likes to project power and invincibility. military band plays. despite security concerns, the annual victory day parade went ahead on red square to commemorate the defeat of nazi germany.
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but the war in ukraine made this feel a very different may 9th, the 80—year—old t—31i the only tank on display here. modern tanks are normally a feature of the victory day parade. not this year. there was no military fly—past, it was cancelled, and there were fewer soldiers here than normal. watching from the stands, russia's commander—in—chief. vladimir putin is under intense pressure. his invasion of ukraine has not gone to plan, but he continues to blame the west. translation: today once again civilisation is at - a decisive turning point. a real war has been unleashed against our homeland. we have repulsed international terrorism in the past, now we will protect the people
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of donbas, and we will ensure our security. and security has become a problem for those running russia. less than a week ago, this happened — an apparent drone attack on the kremlin. the russian authorities blame it on ukraine. these too. in recent weeks there's been a string of drone on russian territory, and on russian—occupied crimea, as well as bombs targeting the railways and power lines. citing security concerns, several russian regions had cancelled local victory day events. for the kremlin, it was important to keep calm and carry on in the capital, but the red square parade was shorter than normal. what was once a showcase of russian military might this year seemed to highlight military problems more
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than 1a months after the kremlin launched a full—scale invasion of ukraine. steve rosenberg, bbc news. i spoke to melinda haring, a non resident seniorfellow at the american think tank the atlantic council's eurasia centre, about the parade. it was small, sombre, short and solemn. it was not much of a parade at all. it was less than an hour, and as you noted, there was only one soviet tank. there were far fewer soldiers than in the past — 11,000 to 8,000 this year. there are far fewer vehicles as well. there were 131 last year and about 50 this year, so it really shows how degraded the russian military has become. and that's a big problem for putin. this is the biggest day on his calendar and his legitimacy rests as the heir who inherited the army that defeated the nazis, so it is not a good look at all for vladimir putin today.
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and what do you think about the words that he said, his framing, which we've heard from him before, that effectively it's a continuation of the fight against the nazis, his war in ukraine? does that message resonate with people across russia? so the message has resonated in the past and i'm not surprised by the message. he blamed the west. he said the west was responsible for the war in ukraine, which is obviously false. and he said, "we must defend the people in the donbass. so it was this again, "we must defend russian speakers". he doesn't have any new ideas or any new narratives. he's going back to his old talking points. and do you think there is a... you know, the propaganda works by repeating the same message over and over, so perhaps in one hand, there's no surprise in that. but are you getting any sense that there's a fracturing of support across ordinary people in the country? so there are signs that support is starting to fracture.
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levada center, that does independent polls in moscow, just found that most russians don't want to give $12 to $25 a month to support russian soldiers. you know, it's one data point. but again, it's very hard to know what's going on in russia. the society is controlled. it has a stalinist flavour on top of it. media has been tamped down. there's no civil life that's possible, so it's hard to say how russians feel, but we know as more and more body bags come back, the war is less popular. one thing that i found really interesting, lewis, though, this year was that there was no immortal regiment, and this is when families of people who lost soldiers during world war two hold their picture. and this year, authorities were concerned that families would come out with pictures of russian soldiers who were killed in ukraine and that would be an opportunity for real discontent and to show the regime that they didn't like it. but they are very, very concerned about public opinion, and they turned it off immediately.
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at the same time as that russian parade ukraine has been celebrating your day. here's a correspondent will stop as victory day celebrations were held in russia president zelensky hosted the head of the eu commission. here president zelensky hosted the head of the eu commission.— of the eu commission. here in key mac a clear— of the eu commission. here in key mac a clear sign _ of the eu commission. here in key mac a clear sign of _ of the eu commission. here in key mac a clear sign of -- _ of the eu commission. here in key mac a clear sign of -- kyiv - of the eu commission. here in key mac a clear sign of -- kyiv break. mac a clear sign of —— kyiv break from russia. he set we need to be... this happened as presidents lenski is moving to shift ukraine marks victory day which is the victory day of nazi germany in 19115. from may the 9th when russia celebrates it to may the 8th the day that western
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countries mark this date. president zelensky says that men —— may the 9th will be a day that ukraine will be celebrating europe. this came hours after kyiv was attacked again, the fifth time in nine days that the capital came under attack. the crean union military said it destroyed 23 of the 25 missiles that russia had launched —— ukrainian. we heard the air raid alert here at four o'clock in the morning and there were no casualties after this latest wave of attacks. we have seen that russia has intensified these attacks with missiles and drones targeting cities and towns away from the front lines. i think the strategy here is to try to test and exhaust the country's air defence systems. as he claims is, it is finishing its preparation for a much dissipated
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counteroffensive. labour leader, sir keir starmer, has refused to rule out a deal with the liberal democrats in the event of a hung parliament after the next election. labour gained more than 500 councillors in last week's local elections, with the lib dems gain over 250 councillors. sir keir did however, categorically rule out a deal with the snp. he made the comments whilst speaking to the bbc�*s political editor chris mason. no, no deal with the snp and i'll tell you why. because there's a fundamental disagreement. i will never do a deal with a party that thinks that the separation of the united kingdom is the way forward and putting a border between scotland and england. i do not believe that that is the way in which the united kingdom will prosper and we'll never do a deal because of that. would you ever do a deal with the liberal democrats? well, look, i want to press on for a labour majority. that's what we're aiming for. this is a hypothetical question. well, so is the snp one. but you answered that directly. but you're equivocal on the lib dem.
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it's a hypothetical question. i what i've been clear i want to press on for a labour majority. that's what i've been aiming for. and the snp is it. but you'll answer one of them clearly and our viewer will say, right, sir keir starmer does not want to do a deal under any circumstances to the snp. that's clear with the liberal democrats, you're not answering that, which suggests that you might. there is this underlying issue with the snp, which is why i'm so clear about that. what about the lib dems? there is no basis for a deal at all with the snp because of their politics of separation. i do not believe it's in the best interests of the united kingdom. now, obviously you asked me about the lib dems and other scenarios. these are hypotheticals for the future. live to our political correspondent, jonathan blake who is in westminster. what you make of that? you can hear for yourselves — what you make of that? you can hear for yourselves the _ what you make of that? you can hear for yourselves the difference - for yourselves the difference between the answers starmer gave in the interview with a possible deal with the scottish national party which you filled out categorically and a possible deal with the liberal democrats the former coalition government which he was far less
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certain about. definitely leaving that open as a possibility. why are we talking about a possible coalition government, possibly 18 months away from a general election towards the end of next year when it will likely be held it is because of those results from the local elections in england last thursday. when the government, the conservative party lost many councils, more than 1000 counsellors. the labour party did well gaining control of several councils and more than 500 counsellors becoming the largest party in local government in england for some time. but the results were not as overwhelmingly successful for labour for them to be able to claim without question that they could form, on the basis of that support, a majority government at the next general election, if that show of support from voters was replicated nationwide. some questioning, although sir keir starmer says it was evidence enough that labour
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could form a majority government, some questioning whether the support is that strong. so that is why we're getting these questions about if the election were to result in a hung parliament, labour, for example being the largest party but not having an overall majority enabling them to form a government on their own. what would happen then. it is clear that sir keir starmer and indeed the liberal deborah cried —— liberal democrat leader are leaving that possibility open at the stage a coalition government could be a possibility in that situation. around the world and across the k this is bbc news. it all started in the mid fifties. i got picked out as a decent goalkeeper. football has and always will be a big part of andrew kiln's life. he's one of the oldest referees in the country. so when he was told he had
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a leaky heart valve that could affect his quality of life, he was more than willing to be the first person in the uk to undergo a new valve replacement procedure. made me feel a little bit special, really. i've got a new lease of life. i can go to the gym in a relaxed state and just meet my friends there. this procedure typically takes an hour to an hour and a half to do. the patient does not need to go to itu. they go home the following day or the day after that. andrew says he is now more determined than ever to keep fit and take care of his brand new valve. you're live with bbc news. in pakistan. the former prime minister imran khan has been arrested in connection with an alleged corruption case. take a look. dozens of para—military
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troops surrounding him. taking him into back of black truck. just a year ago — he was prime minister. let's take another look at that. slowed down. he's at the front — white sleeves. we don't know where he has been taken to, an undisclosed location. the pti party, his party leaders say the premises were attacked by security forces who then arrested mr khan. they have called on his supporters to take to the streets. these are supporters breaking down windows to get to him before he was taken away. these were released by a
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pti official. but when these images were released there were immediately huge protests in cities right across the country. live now to islamabad where we are joined byjournalist asma shirazi. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for coming on the programme-— thank you for coming on the rouramme. ., ~ i. . thank you for coming on the rouramme. ., ~ . programme. thank you so much. the ictures of programme. thank you so much. the pictures of the _ programme. thank you so much. the pictures of the arrest _ programme. thank you so much. the pictures of the arrest are _ programme. thank you so much. the pictures of the arrest are quite - pictures of the arrest are quite extraordinary.— extraordinary. yes, it is interesting, _ extraordinary. yes, it is interesting, there - extraordinary. yes, it is interesting, there was l extraordinary. yes, it isj interesting, there was a extraordinary. yes, it is - interesting, there was a politician arrest this day and before his arrest this day and before his arrest he made it clear to his audience and his party workers that he would be arrested. so i think after there were people expecting that imran khan would be arrested today. so he was arrested and afterwards we have seen an unprecedented, a few people gathered
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around which was unprecedented and gathered and attacked a house in lahore and a few other places so i think these visuals were shocking and unprecedented. we have seen so many presidents and prime ministers who were arrested in the past and almost all like the former prime minister who was very popular at the time when he was arrested but this kind of anger and protest was not there. and it was a number of people was not a big number, but it is really significant that they gathered around phq when they try to enter and they were inside the house in lahore, i think that is a big
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message by the pti pressers. i will say this was a very organised mob. the number was not big but how they attacked really mattered and that matters a lot in history of pakistan actually. matters a lot in history of pakistan actuall . ., , ,, , ., actually. her mind to supply we have one to actually. her mind to supply we have gone to the — actually. her mind to supply we have gone to the stage. _ actually. her mind to supply we have gone to the stage. a _ actually. her mind to supply we have gone to the stage. a former- actually. her mind to supply we have gone to the stage. a former prime i gone to the stage. a former prime minister after all. and a year on from being asked piercing things like this. after one year... on corruption and of course that was the case in the national accountability and arrested imran khan in this case is very clear and obvious where the problem is that imran khan's party saying
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that they are cooperating with them but on the other side they are saying that they are not being cooperative and they are not cooperating with the national accountability bureau. so i think in this case which is related to british national accountability as well and it was settled in pakistan with a business tycoon. it is a very obvious case and obvious leaks that suggest how the first lady previously she was involved with that and that was not challenged by imran khan and he admitted that the oil leak was also cracked. the thing is that the anger and the protests which are still in pakistan i think was unusual. we have seen so many prime ministers in the past as well... �* ., ., �*
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prime ministers in the past as well... �* . . �* ., ., well... i'm afraid we'll have to leave it there _ well... i'm afraid we'll have to leave it there but _ well... i'm afraid we'll have to leave it there but thank - well... i'm afraid we'll have to leave it there but thank you i well... i'm afraid we'll have to l leave it there but thank you very much for your i appreciate it. the metropolitan police commissioner has defended policing of the coronation describing the arrest of six anti—monarchy protesters is unfortunate but stressing that he supports the arresting officers actions. the group detained on suspicion that we were planning to attach themselves legally will face no charges. 0ne arrested was graham smith the head of the campaign group, for public, he says he received a personal apology possesses a full inquiry into what happened needs to take place. earlier the minister for state and crime defended the controversial new law which was used to arrest them. this was a once—in—a—lifetime event and it took place against an intelligence backdrop which suggests that there were multiple well organised pasta quarrels very does serious disruption if proceeding
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would have been taken very seriously by this house and been seen around the world. so i don't think one can inferfrom what happened the world. so i don't think one can infer from what happened at the weekend that the recently passed legislation is defective. let's get more with our home editor. remind us about this recently introduced legislation. it is introduced legislation. it is important _ introduced legislation. it is important because - introduced legislation. it 3 important because chris philp is confusing two different things there. there was indeed some intelligence which suggested there was going to be some criminal activity at the coronation but people were going to be throwing paint and tantalising monuments and making loud noises to frighten the horses. and indeed a number of arrests were made using, legislation that has been around for a long time. see three people arrested and are now on bail. entirely separate to that, there were these six arrests as you say which happened
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early on saturday morning. the six people including the head of republican organisation, republic were arrested and we now understand that the arrests were for going equipped to lock on which is one of the new crimes that have been created by the government. in fact, when looking a bit closer at the equipment for locking on were just drops that were being used in a higher demand to hold placards in place. so the police have said that they regret the fact that these six protesters were not able to join a protesters were not able to join a protest which was held quite peacefully on saturday by republicans and opponents of the monarchy. and indeed the commissioner of the metropolitan police that it was unfortunate. so there are two issues here. one is clearly there was a massive policing operation, the biggest ever police lead security operation in this country with a level and have —— 11
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and half thousand officers involved commended from people from all political parties and the london mayor who has some responsibility for policing in london. separate said that there are no questions about whether the new legislation which was only introduced last wednesday, literally days before the coronation, parts of it were introduced early in fact. because the home office said they wanted the police to have these powers available to the to deal with serious disruption of community life which is the new level of where the bar is for an arrest. and yet we now know, police didn't use those new powers. the only time they did to arrest the six people who were subsequently cleared of all charges and we had this sort of semi—apologies from the met. and we had this sort of semi-apologies from the met. several auestions semi-apologies from the met. several questions still — semi-apologies from the met. several questions still remain. _ semi-apologies from the met. several questions still remain. thank - semi-apologies from the met. several questions still remain. thank you - questions still remain. thank you for that. to the us — the latest legal proceedings involving donald trump.
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the jury is about to begin deliberations in the case where a woman ejean carroll alleges the former president raped her in a new york department store in the mid—1990s. he denies this. thejury has been hearing arguments over the past two weeks in a manhattan federal court and is expected to reach a verdict later. live now to our correspondent nada tawfik who is in new york. talk us through what has been happening. the talk us through what has been happening-— talk us through what has been haueninu. , , happening. the 'ury has officially now begun — happening. the jury has officially now begun deliberations. - happening. the jury has officially now begun deliberations. they . happening. the jury has officially i now begun deliberations. they will be pouring over the evidence of the last two weeks with those closing arguments from both sides from yesterday. still fresh in their minds. remember, this is all about an allegation from the writer and former advice column lists, ejean carrol is she saying that donald trump raped her and then defamed her and she says that she is taking this case to get her life back. on the other hand, donald trump has been back on truth social, his social
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media platform again slamming this case as a false accusation. he even made the claim in that post that he has been silenced and unable to defend himself. whichjust has not been the case. he never attended court, but thejudge had given him numerous opportunities to say if he wanted to testify in this case. ultimately he did not. but many clips from his deposition in this case were played out to the jury. so now we have ejean carrol and the 11 witnesses presented and donald trump's words. that is what the jury will consider when deciding who they are more likely to believe. this will consider when deciding who they are more likely to believe.— are more likely to believe. this is sliuhtl are more likely to believe. this is slightly and _ are more likely to believe. this is slightly and a _ are more likely to believe. this is slightly and a possible _ are more likely to believe. this is slightly and a possible question l are more likely to believe. this is l slightly and a possible question but is there a way you can set out any timetable here? i is there a way you can set out any timetable here?— is there a way you can set out any timetable here? i can tell you that the 'u timetable here? i can tell you that the jury has _ timetable here? i can tell you that the jury has been _ timetable here? i can tell you that the jury has been given _ timetable here? i can tell you that the jury has been given a - timetable here? i can tell you that| the jury has been given a form and instructions about how to good through the case. so this is a civil
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matter which means the standard of proof is a little lower than a criminal case. thejury proof is a little lower than a criminal case. the jury still has to be unanimous in their decision but they do not have to find beyond a reasonable doubt. theyjust have to find by a preponderance of the evidence. in other words, who they are more likely to believe. ejean carrol or donald trump. but there are several clenched —— questions on the form is notjust a simple up—and—down vote when they get into the room, they have to think about for example if they do believe that he raped her and defamed her and if so how much money they will award e jean carrol in damages to compensate herfor her injuries jean carrol in damages to compensate her for her injuries and how much they would want to if they found donald trump liable, and punitive damages so there is a lot to pour overin damages so there is a lot to pour over in thejury damages so there is a lot to pour over in the jury room.— over in the “my room. thank you very much — over in the jury room. thank you very much for— over in the jury room. thank you very much for that. _ over in the jury room. thank you very much for that. life - over in the jury room. thank you very much for that. life for- over in the jury room. thank you very much for that. life for us i very much for that. life for us there in new york keeping us across the case. as soon as we get any kind of verdict we will bring it to you.
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for the moment this is bbc news. bye—bye. hello there. we've seen a real mixture of weather today, some warm sunshine coming through, but some torrential downpours as well. we had some heavier showers earlier in the day in wales. that was followed by the sunshine as the downpours with some thunder in there as well swept into the midlands and it's been pushing down towards the south—east. and this is where we still have this yellow thunderstorm warning from the met office. so these areas into the evening will continue to get some very heavy rain in places and some thunder and lightning, possibly some hail as well. those downpours in the south—east do slowly fade away overnight. and then we see more cloud coming in from the atlantic. that's going to bring in frequent showers into northern ireland, into western scotland. ahead of that, some clearer skies.
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and so temperatures could be as low as seven or eight degrees into wednesday morning. for many eastern areas, though, it will start dry, but we'll see more showers breaking out and, really, for the next couple of days, we'll continue to see this mixture of sunny spells and some widespread heavy and perhaps thundery showers. we've got the dry start for many eastern areas, but the cloud will build up through the day. we'll see the showers breaking out. those could turn heavy and thundery, more especially across eastern parts of england. before those downpours arrive, temperatures here could reach 18 degrees. but with those frequent showers and more cloud in northern ireland and western scotland, it's only going to be around 15 degrees here. and that same area of low pressure is just going to dawdle its way southwards. come to rest across the uk in time for thursday. the winds probably not quite as strong in the south—west of england by this stage. and elsewhere, the winds are going to be light. so the showers that do develop again through the day more widely will be slow moving, heavy, potentially thundery as well. drying off more in the afternoon in northern ireland with some sunshine but staying quite cloudy
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in the north east of scotland. so cooler here. elsewhere, temperatures will be around 16 degrees. a lot of showers then developing again on thursday. but that main area of low pressure drifts away on friday. high pressure starts to build in, starting to settle things down by the end of the week. now, we're still close enough to low pressure to bring the risk of some showers in the south—east. and there'll be a chilly wind blowing in off the north sea, bringing with it more cloud. the best of the sunshine across northern and western parts of the uk. so temperatures here could get up to 18 degrees again, but rather chilly around those north sea coasts.
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this is bbc news, the headlines. vladimir putin uses his annual victory day parade in moscow to warn russians that they are in a battle for their existence. here in the uk, labour's leader sir keir starmer refuses to rule out a coalition with the liberal democrats if he fails to win a majority at the next general election. as protests erupt across pakistan following imran khan's arrest — social media platforms twitter, facbook, and youtube are being suspended in various regions of the country. london's metropolitan police insists there was reliable intelligence that protesters intended to disrupt king charles' coronation.
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