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live from washington, this is bbc news. welcome to viewers on pbs in america. a us jury finds former president donald trump sexually abused magazine writer ejean carroll. a standoff in washington with no signs of a deal as the us rapidly approaches default. and ukraine marks �*europe day�* with a showing of eu solidarity. we'll speak to ukraine's ambassador to the us on what comes next. hello, i'm sumi somaskanda. we start in new york, where a jury has found that donald trump sexually abused former magazine columnist ejean carroll, and then defamed her by branding her a liar.
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carroll had accused trump of raping her in the changing room of a luxury department store in 1996. she also claimed that trump defamed her when he called her "a complete con job" after she went public with the allegation in 2019. after three hours of deliberation, the jurors said trump did not rape carroll, though they did uphold her other complaints. the ex—president has been ordered to pay carroll $5 million in damages. his legal team has already said they will appeal the ruling. carroll released a statement following the verdict, saying... we also heard from the former us president. he continued to deny the accusations. he shared this post on his social media platform truth social, saying...
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trump's lawyerjoe tacopina spoke to press outside of court. he's a strong, he's ready to move forward. he wants to fight this on appeal. he was successful with one appeal before, and he thinks he will before, and he thinks he will be successful in the second one. but he's planning, you know, he's moving forward as he always does. joining me live to discuss the verdict is sarah krissoff, former federal prosecutor in the southern district of new york, joe moreno, former federal prosecutor at the department ofjustice, and matt terrill, managing partner at fire house strategies. good evening to all of you, great to see you. joe, what do you make of the verdict? great to see you. joe, what do you make of the verdict? well, i was thinking _ you make of the verdict? well, i was thinking about _ you make of the verdict? well, i was thinking about this - i was thinking about this earlier, and it is stunning in terms of the fact that a person who has just recently been
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president of the united states has been found liable for having sexually assaulted someone. that's amazing. that being said, having watched the trial these last few weeks and keeping up on it, it is not shocking, the claimant was allowed to bring in contemporaneous witness testimony which under the circumstances is pretty powerful, and there was enough propensity evidence, basically statements from other females that mr trump had kissed them, groped them, touched them without consent and that access hollywood tape that the jury felt it was more likely than not that mr trump was liable for having done this so it is not shocking verdict but still it's pretty amazing when you think of the big picture. sara, what do you _ think of the big picture. sara, what do you think? _ think of the big picture. sara, what do you think? listen, i l what do you think? listen, i think ms — what do you think? listen, i think ms carol's _ what do you think? listen, i think ms carol's team - what do you think? listen, i think ms carol's team put i what do you think? listen, i | think ms carol's team put on what do you think? listen, i i think ms carol's team put on a great — think ms carol's team put on a great case, it was a tight
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case, _ great case, it was a tight case, she was expertly prepared. she was prepared for this very— prepared. she was prepared for this very vicious cross—examination she faced, and _ cross—examination she faced, and they— cross—examination she faced, and they corroborated her testimony, the case really came down _ testimony, the case really came down to— testimony, the case really came down to her testimony and her credibility but her team did everything they could to corroborate that so i think she had skilful lawyers and they provided a platform for her to tell her— provided a platform for her to tell her story.— tell her story. matt, you have been what — tell her story. matt, you have been what she _ tell her story. matt, you have been what she they _ tell her story. matt, you have been what she they displayed j tell her story. matt, you have i been what she they displayed a political thaw what did you think of seeing this verdict come down today? i think of seeing this verdict come down today?- think of seeing this verdict come down today? i was at the court when _ come down today? i was at the court when the _ come down today? i was at the court when the jury _ come down today? i was at the court when the jury made - come down today? i was at the court when the jury made this | court when the jury made this verdict — court when the jury made this verdict. your— court when the jury made this verdict. your question - court when the jury made this verdict. your question about i verdict. your question about the politics— verdict. your question about the politics of— verdict. your question about the politics of this, - verdict. your question about the politics of this, given - verdict. your question about the politics of this, given we are in— the politics of this, given we are in the _ the politics of this, given we are in the lead _ the politics of this, given we are in the lead up— the politics of this, given we are in the lead up to - the politics of this, given we are in the lead up to the - are in the lead up to the republican— are in the lead up to the republican primary, - are in the lead up to the republican primary, i. are in the lead up to the i republican primary, i think are in the lead up to the - republican primary, i think you ask many— republican primary, i think you ask many voters _ republican primary, i think you ask many voters in _ republican primary, i think you ask many voters in the - ask many voters in the republican— ask many voters in the republican party- ask many voters in the republican party right| ask many voters in the - republican party right now, many — republican party right now, many of _ republican party right now, many of those _ republican party right now, many of those voters - republican party right now, many of those voters will . republican party right now, . many of those voters will stay in lockstep _ many of those voters will stay in lockstep with _ many of those voters will stay in lockstep with the _ many of those voters will stay in lockstep with the former i in lockstep with the former president _
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in lockstep with the former president. we _ in lockstep with the former president. we looked - in lockstep with the former president. we looked at. in lockstep with the formerl president. we looked at the access _ president. we looked at the access hollywood _ president. we looked at the access hollywood tape - president. we looked at the access hollywood tape backj president. we looked at the . access hollywood tape back in 2016. — access hollywood tape back in 2016. with _ access hollywood tape back in 2016, with eight _ access hollywood tape back in 2016, with eight of _ access hollywood tape back in 2016, with eight of the - 2016, with eight of the impeachment - 2016, with eight of the impeachment of- 2016, with eight of the impeachment of the i 2016, with eight of the - impeachment of the former president. _ impeachment of the former president, the _ impeachment of the former president, the indictment l impeachment of the former. president, the indictment we saw in — president, the indictment we saw in new— president, the indictment we saw in new york _ president, the indictment we saw in new york recently, i president, the indictment we i saw in new york recently, and now— saw in new york recently, and now the — saw in new york recently, and now the reality, _ saw in new york recently, and now the reality, if _ saw in new york recently, and now the reality, if you - saw in new york recently, and now the reality, if you look- saw in new york recently, and now the reality, if you look ati now the reality, if you look at the historical— now the reality, if you look at the historical trend _ now the reality, if you look at the historical trend of- now the reality, if you look at the historical trend of these i the historical trend of these types — the historical trend of these types of— the historical trend of these types of cases _ the historical trend of these types of cases or _ the historical trend of these types of cases or events - the historical trend of these l types of cases or events that have — types of cases or events that have taken _ types of cases or events that have taken place, _ types of cases or events that have taken place, when - types of cases or events that l have taken place, when people -- or whether— have taken place, when people —— or whether people - have taken place, when people —— or whether people believe l have taken place, when peoplej —— or whether people believe it or not. — —— or whether people believe it or not. gop_ —— or whether people believe it or not, gop voters _ —— or whether people believe it or not, gop voters by- —— or whether people believe it or not, gop voters by and - —— or whether people believe it| or not, gop voters by and large will decide _ or not, gop voters by and large will decide who _ or not, gop voters by and large will decide who the _ or not, gop voters by and large will decide who the nominee i will decide who the nominee will decide who the nominee will he, _ will decide who the nominee will he, they— will decide who the nominee will be, they will— will decide who the nominee will be, they will remain - will be, they will remain largely— will be, they will remain largely lockstep - will be, they will remain largely lockstep with - will be, they will remain| largely lockstep with the former _ largely lockstep with the former president. - largely lockstep with the former president.- largely lockstep with the former president. that's an interesting _ former president. that's an interesting point. _ former president. that's an interesting point. joe, - former president. that's an i interesting point. joe, coming interesting point. joe, coming back to you, we saw the former president's lawyers say this is a strange further, it was a rape claim all along the jury rejected it and made other findings, do you agree with that? ~ �* , findings, do you agree with that? ~ 3 ., , , that? well, if there's any bit of aood that? well, if there's any bit of good news _ that? well, if there's any bit of good news here _ that? well, if there's any bit of good news here for- that? well, if there's any bit of good news here for the i that? well, if there's any bit - of good news here for the trump team it is that, he was found liable for rape, it was the lesser claim. but it is consistent with the fact that there were other women who reported being effectively
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sexually assaulted by mr trump. so it seems that the jury was willing to believe ms carroll because in part, in part because in part, in part because of the testimony of other people who experienced what they claim are similar advances by mr trump. so i don't think it is shocking that thatis don't think it is shocking that that is as far as the jury was willing to go, and it's a lesson about how when you flaunt the rules and you show a disregard for the law, as mr trump has done in statements and apparently in actions, eventually that catches up with you. eventually that catches up with ou, ,,., ., eventually that catches up with ou. ,. ., ,�* , eventually that catches up with ou. ., ., ., you. sarah, trump's team are callin: you. sarah, trump's team are calling it — you. sarah, trump's team are calling it a — you. sarah, trump's team are calling it a strange _ you. sarah, trump's team are calling it a strange verdict - calling it a strange verdict and said they will appeal, what are the chances of appeal here? i think the chances are not good — i think the chances are not good for— i think the chances are not good for them on appeal. the judge — good for them on appeal. the judge is— good for them on appeal. the judge is very well respected, he knew_ judge is very well respected, he knew every aspect of this case — he knew every aspect of this case would be analysed in detail— case would be analysed in detail by not only the second
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circuit— detail by not only the second circuit but the press and the media — circuit but the press and the media and all these legal experts like myself, so i think every— experts like myself, so i think every decision here was very well— every decision here was very well thought out and the second circuit— well thought out and the second circuit will be loads to turn, to overturn any part of this judgment. particularly with regard _ judgment. particularly with regard to the evidentiary matters that the judge here has great _ matters that the judge here has great discussion on whether or not to— great discussion on whether or not to admit things pursuant to evidentiary rules. 30 not to admit things pursuant to evidentiary rules.— evidentiary rules. so a lot of observers — evidentiary rules. so a lot of observers have _ evidentiary rules. so a lot of observers have said - evidentiary rules. so a lot of observers have said one - evidentiary rules. so a lot of observers have said one of i evidentiary rules. so a lot of. observers have said one of the turning points in this case was the video of the former president's deposition. what impact do you think that had? i impact do you think that had? i think there are voters who are going — think there are voters who are going to — think there are voters who are going to look _ think there are voters who are going to look at _ think there are voters who are going to look at all _ think there are voters who are going to look at all this - going to look at all this material. _ going to look at all this material, look- going to look at all this material, look at - going to look at all this material, look at this l going to look at all this - material, look at this case, look— material, look at this case, look at _ material, look at this case, look at the _ material, look at this case, look at the video, - material, look at this case, look at the video, the - material, look at this case, i look at the video, the reality is, just— look at the video, the reality is, just speaking _ look at the video, the reality is, just speaking to - look at the video, the reality is, just speaking to the - is, just speaking to the politics— is, just speaking to the politics and _ is, just speaking to the politics and the - is, just speaking to the . politics and the upcoming election. _ politics and the upcoming election, the _ politics and the upcoming election, the primary, - politics and the upcoming election, the primary, by| politics and the upcoming - election, the primary, by and large. — election, the primary, by and large. voters _ election, the primary, by and large, voters either- election, the primary, by and large, voters either like -
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argue _ certainly for those, many would argue there _ certainly for those, many would argue there are _ certainly for those, many would argue there are potential- argue there are potential candidates _ argue there are potential candidates who- argue there are potential candidates who are - argue there are potential. candidates who are declared argue there are potential- candidates who are declared and running. — candidates who are declared and running. they— candidates who are declared and running, they will— candidates who are declared and running, they will likely - candidates who are declared and running, they will likely point i running, they will likely point to these _ running, they will likely point to these ten— running, they will likely point to these ten events - running, they will likely point to these ten events and i running, they will likely point| to these ten events and make the argument _ to these ten events and make the argument that _ to these ten events and make the argument that former i the argument that former president _ the argument that former president trump - 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former president. we looked at data by the people agree or- data by the people agree or not. _ data by the people agree or not. the _ data by the people agree or not, the data _ data by the people agree or not, the data points - data by the people agree or not, the data points show. data by the people agree or. not, the data points show that there — not, the data points show that there is growing _ not, the data points show that there is growing distrust - not, the data points show that. there is growing distrust among many— there is growing distrust among many americans— there is growing distrust among many americans in _ there is growing distrust among many americans in the - many americans in the institutions— many americans in the institutions of- many americans in the institutions of our- many americans in the i institutions of our time, political. _ institutions of our time, political, judicial. - institutions of our time, political, judicial. if- institutions of our time, political, judicial. if you | political, judicial. if you look— political, judicial. if you look at _ political, judicial. if you look at the _ political, judicial. if you look at the data, - political, judicial. if you i look at the data, particularly the gop _ look at the data, particularly the gop primary, _ look at the data, particularly the gop primary, that - look at the data, particularly the gop primary, that the i look at the data, particularly. the gop primary, that the data points. — the gop primary, that the data points. look— the gop primary, that the data points. lookat— the gop primary, that the data points, look at the _ the gop primary, that the data points, look at the history i the gop primary, that the data points, look at the history of l points, look at the history of these — points, look at the history of these kind _ points, look at the history of these kind of— points, look at the history of these kind of events, - points, look at the history of these kind of events, dozenl points, look at the history of i these kind of events, dozen not impact — these kind of events, dozen not impact the _ these kind of events, dozen not impact the former— these kind of events, dozen not impact the former president. i these kind of events, dozen not| impact the former president. we will see — impact the former president. we will see how— impact the former president. we will see how that _ impact the former president. we will see how that plays _ impact the former president. we will see how that plays out - impact the former president. we will see how that plays out but . will see how that plays out but ultimately _ will see how that plays out but ultimately to _ will see how that plays out but ultimately to your _ will see how that plays out but ultimately to your point, - will see how that plays out but ultimately to your point, theyl ultimately to your point, they may— ultimately to your point, they may underline _ ultimately to your point, they may underline his _ ultimately to your point, theyl may underline his electability. serra. — may underline his electability. serra. how— may underline his electability. serra, how long _ may underline his electability. serra, how long do _ may underline his electability. serra, how long do you - may underline his electability. serra, how long do you think. serra, how long do you think this appeals process could last
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as we get closer to the election? it as we get closer to the election?— as we get closer to the election? _, ., ,, ., , election? it could take a very lona election? it could take a very long time- — election? it could take a very long time. part _ election? it could take a very long time. part of _ election? it could take a very long time. part of a - election? it could take a very long time. part of a really i long time. part of a really depends on the parties. but cases— depends on the parties. but cases can take months or years to wind — cases can take months or years to wind their way through the appeal— to wind their way through the appeal process, sol to wind their way through the appeal process, so i wouldn't e>
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regarding stormy daniels which seems really shaky, so when there are cases like the one here where a jury consider reasonable decision, when you have cases that seem overly aggressive, that is giving mr trump ammunition for his hard core supporters to say that the deckis core supporters to say that the deck is stacked against him. so even when he had a good case like this, it seems he is able to undermine confidence in it and that's not good for anybody. and that's not good for anybody-— and that's not good for anybody. and that's not good for an bod . ., , ., ., anybody. really good to have all of your— anybody. really good to have all of your takes _ anybody. really good to have all of your takes on _ anybody. really good to have all of your takes on this, i anybody. really good to have all of your takes on this, a i all of your takes on this, a big story here in the us today, thanks for your analysis. staying in the us — and a showdown in washington. a meeting on tuesday between presidentjoe biden and congressional leaders over the us debt limit resulted in no progress. leaders from both parties blame each other for the looming crisis after the meeting, but have agreed to meet again on friday. the current spending cap stands at roughly $31.4 trillion. if the debt limit is not increased, the government could default on its debts, and run out of money within weeks. shortly after the meeting, biden said he made clear
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with mccarthy that the threat of default needs to be off the table. i made clear during our meeting that a default is not an option. i repeated that time and again. america is not a deadbeat nation. we pay our bills and to avoiding default is a basic principle of the us congress. there's a lot at stake here. as we mentioned, if the debt limit is not increased, the us government could run out of money. that's unprecedented and could happen in as little as three weeks if congress doesn't act. experts say a prolonged stand—off could see stock prices fall, cause the economy to contract and result in millions ofjob losses. and it's notjust the us — the impacts of a default would affect global markets, too. if us debt is seen as risky, it'll be charged more to borrow money. those increases would trickle down to the rest of the economy. i literally ask the president personally, do you believe there is any place in
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government we could find savings? i know they said things that were true, not about how we would move forward, and i had to explain the president, the only thing we are asking is that next year we are asking is that next year we spent the same amount of money that we spent five months ago. we'll have more on this story across the evening — next hour we'll hear from north america correspondent, nomia iqbal. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. we realised that their war had started. ~ . ,.. , started. we are in their escape from civil— started. we are in their escape from civil war, _ started. we are in their escape from civil war, the _ started. we are in their escape from civil war, the family i started. we are in their escape from civil war, the family of. from civil war, the family of six from berkshirejincy dunne to celebrate ramadan and eid with relatives in khartoum when fighting broke out. £311" with relatives in khartoum when
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fighting broke out.— fighting broke out. our front door was _ fighting broke out. our front door was shut _ fighting broke out. our front door was shut by _ fighting broke out. our front door was shut by a - fighting broke out. our front door was shut by a bullet i fighting broke out. our front| door was shut by a bullet and be found inside the house. luckily enough there wasn't anyone around the door, because since the war started we just stay in the middle of the house on the floor.— on the floor. they may have escaped _ on the floor. they may have escaped the _ on the floor. they may have escaped the fighting - on the floor. they may have escaped the fighting but i on the floor. they may have i escaped the fighting but needed to leave the country. to do that they had to get to port sudan on one of the final evacuation flights. 1 sudan on one of the final evacuation flights. i hurried back here _ evacuation flights. i hurried back here with _ evacuation flights. i hurried back here with my - evacuation flights. i hurried back here with my husband | evacuation flights. i hurried i back here with my husband and my children. i was thinking about my parents, my siblings, my mother and father. you're live with bbc news. let's turn to pakistan. supporters of the former prime minister, imran khan, have called for nationwide protests following his arrest on corruption charges. mr khan was arrested by the military outside the high court in islamabad. 0ur pakistan correspondent caroline davies reports. this was the moment imran khan was arrested awaiting trial. paramilitary troops, shattered glass, batons, camera phones and confusion.
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marched to a waiting car in a sea of riot police. after two failed attempts to arrest the former prime minister, the authorities were taking no chances. the police say they arrested mr khan on charges of corruption. the chiefjustice of islamabad's high court has said that the arrest was legal. but anger was already palpable in some parts of the country. this is one of the main roads out of islamabad. that way to islamabad, that way to rawalpindi. protesters here have come out in their hundreds to show how angry they are at the arrest. today's arrest left some without hope for pakistan's political system. let there be anarchy, let there be chaos. if there is no imran, there is nothing left in pakistan. 0ther protests were directed at one group, pakistan's powerful military. imran khan has repeatedly criticised its leadership.
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in lahore they broke into the city's highest military official residence, setting it on fire and even taking the army's peacocks. in rawalpindi, they breached the gates of the army's headquarters. pakistan hasn't seen such open attacks by the public on its army in decades. pakistan is due to hold a national election this year. it's politically polarised. imran khan has been accused of whipping up his supporters to avoid the law. we last saw violent protests by his supporters in march. from his armoured car on his way to court, mr khan told me then that he thought the authorities intended to jail him. putting in prison means that they will keep me out of the election race right till the end of the elections so i won't be able to campaign. that's the whole thing. imran khan's party tonight said that they would challenge the arrest in court and tried to distance themselves from any acts of violence. but they intend protests to continue. the country is already caught in a deeply divisive political power struggle.
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caroline davies, bbc news, islamabad. in russia, president vladimir putin marked the anniversary of the defeat of nazi germany in a speech, saying the world was at a "turning point" and that russia's future "rests on" its troops. he appeared at a scaled—down celebration of world war two's end in moscow. in contrast, the urkainian president declared this holiday as europe day in ukraine. volodymyr zelensky welcomed eu commission president ursula von der leyen to kyiv for it. earlier today i spoke to the ukrainian ambassador to the united states about where the war in ukraine stands now. welcome to bbc news, thank you forjoining us. there has been a muted ceremony marking europe a muted ceremony marking europe a day which celebrates victory over the nazis in world war ii and i want to ask you about something that the russian president said, he said the following.
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are you concerned that these words show that putin has this resolved to continue the war at all costs? . ~ resolved to continue the war at all costs?— all costs? thank you for having me. i all costs? thank you for having me- i don't _ all costs? thank you for having me. i don't know— all costs? thank you for having me. i don't know what - me. i don't know what fantasyland people who are saying something like this live in to be honest because the whole world sees the truth and the truth is russia attacked us in 2014 and russia attacked us in 2014 and russia attacked us in 2022 asserted a fully fledged war against us. it was unprovoked, it was unjustified, the only aggressors there is russia. and actually this is coming from and then die to —— an indicted war criminal who is wanted for crimes against ukrainian children, he should probably think about something else rather than distorting or continuing to distort the truth. while putin today, together with the russian federation, is waiting another
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aggressive war, no different from what hitler did during the world war ii. irate from what hitler did during the world war ii.— world war ii. we have seen at the same _ world war ii. we have seen at the same time _ world war ii. we have seen at the same time russia - world war ii. we have seen at. the same time russia launching a barrage of drone and long range michel —— missile attacks. the us has also announced up to $1.2 billion more in long—term military aid to bolster defences and stock up to bolster defences and stock up on ammunition. does ukraine have the defences it needs to continue to repel these attacks from russia? irate continue to repel these attacks from russia?— from russia? we are very grateful _ from russia? we are very grateful to _ from russia? we are very grateful to all _ from russia? we are very grateful to all of - from russia? we are very grateful to all of our i from russia? we are very l grateful to all of our friends and allies especially the united states this recent announcement of 1.2 billion, but also for all the previous ones. do we have everything we need of course we need more. to have an enemy like this who has not yet finished or dropped their intent to attack and kill us, we definitely need more, but we are grateful for what we have and we will use everything we have in order to defend our homes. �* . we have in order to defend our homes. . . ., ., ,
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homes. are much more does ukraine need _ homes. are much more does ukraine need to _ homes. are much more does ukraine need to be _ homes. are much more does ukraine need to be able i homes. are much more does ukraine need to be able to i ukraine need to be able to successfully defend? it ukraine need to be able to successfully defend? it depends on when we _ successfully defend? it depends on when we will _ successfully defend? it depends on when we will win _ successfully defend? it depends on when we will win this - successfully defend? it depends on when we will win this war. i on when we will win this war. but even to win it now, you see all these missile attacks, it is clear that we need more air defence, it is clear we need more artillery and ammunition, and while we are preparing to liberate our villages and cities, while we are preparing to free our people, because again, we know what happened to them under the occupation, people are getting killed, raped, civilians are getting murdered and tortured. so we have to liberate as soon as possible all of our territory. and of course after that, we will have to rebuild ukraine and we will have to build the capacity is. and we will have to build the capacity is-— capacity is. what is the immediate _ capacity is. what is the immediate need i capacity is. what is the immediate need that i capacity is. what is the l immediate need that you capacity is. what is the - immediate need that you are asking the biden administration and lawmakers here as you are having a conversation is in washington? all having a conversation is in washington?— having a conversation is in washington? all our partners know very — washington? all our partners know very well _ washington? all our partners know very well what - washington? all our partners know very well what we - washington? all our partners| know very well what we need, washington? all our partners - know very well what we need, we were discussing war
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capabilities literally, there is no capability not discussing. we need more of what we already have on the ground, we need a longer range missiles, we need all elements of air defence including the air support of air defence including the airsupportand of air defence including the air support and aircraft and helicopters, we are discussing all of that. of course i will not be discussing it publicly, as a military would want to surprise russians on the battlefield. but there is a very honest and detailed and very honest and detailed and very frank discussion. i very honest and detailed and very frank discussion.- very frank discussion. i want to ask about _ very frank discussion. i want to ask about something - very frank discussion. i want to ask about something thatl very frank discussion. i want - to ask about something that the un secretary—general said in an interview today, he said... is he right? nobody wants a iece is he right? nobody wants a piece more _ is he right? nobody wants a piece more than _ is he right? nobody wants a piece more than ukraine. i is he right? nobody wants a i piece more than ukraine. our president zelensky has been very clear about it. as early as last year, president zelensky presented our ukrainian peace forum, it is
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very simple, it starts with russia stopping their aggressive war and getting out of ukraine. and of course there are other elements of it, you know, justice, rebuilding of ukraine, getting our people back, all of it, but it can only be possible if russia, who is the only aggressor, there are no both sides, there is one side, it is russia who attacked us, as soon as they will stop being the aggressor, we can start moving into the new phase. untilthen start moving into the new phase. until then ukraine will defend our homes and our loved ones with everything they have not stopped republicans in the house of representatives have become somewhat split over support for ukraine.- support for ukraine. kevin mccarthy _ support for ukraine. kevin mccarthy did _ support for ukraine. kevin mccarthy did make - support for ukraine. kevin mccarthy did make a - support for ukraine. kevin l mccarthy did make a strong speech in favour support for ukraine during a recent trip to israel. do you see bipartisan support possibly weakening, especially in the lead up to the election? i especially in the lead up to the election?— especially in the lead up to the election? i actually see very strong _ the election? i actually see very strong bipartisan - the election? i actually see i very strong bipartisan support and we are very grateful to all
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members of congress and senators, to the strong bipartisan support and we feel the same from american people. there could be different discussions, take a peek up some questions, we are preparing to answer them and we are preparing to provide more information but i do not see support weakening as we are fighting for the values on which the us is built. freedom, democracy, human decency. so we feel the support and again regardless of the discussions i feel it is from both parties very strongly whilst of the us secretary of state spoke a short while ago and he was speaking against —— about grain shipments. speaking against -- about grain shipments-_ shipments. russia has once aaain shipments. russia has once again returned _ shipments. russia has once again returned to _ shipments. russia has once again returned to blocking l again returned to blocking ships _ again returned to blocking ships from south ukraine's supports —— ports to pick up the — supports —— ports to pick up the green, _ supports —— ports to pick up the green, a cynical action that— the green, a cynical action that results in less food get into — that results in less food get into global markets, and to human— into global markets, and to human beings in africa, the middle _ human beings in africa, the middle east around the world, who need that food. fire middle east around the world, who need that food.— who need that food. are you optimistic — who need that food. are you optimistic that _ who need that food. are you optimistic that the _ who need that food. are you optimistic that the un - who need that food. are you optimistic that the un and i optimistic that the un and russia and other negotiators
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will be able to ensure this grain can be exported seamlessly? i grain can be exported seamlessly?- grain can be exported seamlessly? grain can be exported seamlessl ? ~ ., ., ~ ., seamlessly? i know that ukraine has been a _ seamlessly? i know that ukraine has been a very _ seamlessly? i know that ukraine has been a very reliable - has been a very reliable supplier of not only grain food in general to so many countries, not a lot of people until they were realised that ukraine has oase been in the top five producers. we also know it is russia and russia alone that blocked it, it is russia who steals our produce, it is russia who heads specifically for grain stores, and we also know that ukraine is willing to ship and provide and even donate a lot of grain to a number of countries in africa and other parts of the world. so we will do everything possible together with our friends and allies in order to locate it. we are calling on friends and partners including those who will be suffering from russia's actions to join us in pushing for this to be unlocked. us in pushing for this to be unlocked-— us in pushing for this to be unlocked. ., , ., .,
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unlocked. one more question for ou on unlocked. one more question for you on the _ unlocked. one more question for you on the fighting _ unlocked. one more question for you on the fighting in _ unlocked. one more question for you on the fighting in ukraine, i you on the fighting in ukraine, we know moscow has ordered the evacuation of residents from russian occupied areas close to zaporizhzhia. how concerned are you about the safety of the nuclear site?— you about the safety of the nuclear site? well, it is very unsafe for — nuclear site? well, it is very unsafe for a _ nuclear site? well, it is very unsafe for a nuclear - nuclear site? well, it is very unsafe for a nuclear facility l unsafe for a nuclear facility to be occupied by unprofessional aggressive war criminals. .. that's why ukraine is doing everything possible to get organisations to get russians to leave this place is given to the professionals to run it. in this especially we have to join forces with all friends and allies to send a very strong message to russia that they have to leave the station and they have to allow ukrainian personnel to completely manage it under normal circumstances, not under the gun to the head from the russian criminals. thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news.
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thank you very much for 'oining us on bbc newsfi thank you very much for 'oining us on bbc news. thank you very much for having _ us on bbc news. thank you very much for having me. _ us on bbc news. thank you very much for having me. thank- us on bbc news. thank you very much for having me. thank you | much for having me. thank you for watching — much for having me. thank you for watching bbc _ much for having me. thank you for watching bbc news, - much for having me. thank you for watching bbc news, we - much for having me. thank you for watching bbc news, we willj for watching bbc news, we will be back at the top of the next hour. stay with us. hello. if, like me, you're a fan of a big cloudscape, tuesday was a day of delight across the uk as we saw towering thunder clouds developing across our skies. northamptonshire tuesday afternoon, worcester, and the clouds were delivering this bolt of lightning, caught on camera late afternoon. in the next few days, more photo ops as well. there'll be some beautiful sunshine for a time for many of us, but then we can anticipate some heavy and thundery showers also developing. a few showers close to the east coast first thing on wednesday. for many, a lot of early sunshine, low pressure swirling around to the north west, though, will mean showers even early on for scotland and northern ireland. but it's some of these home—grown ones across eastern england as we warm up the atmosphere with the sunshine come wednesday afternoon, that will produce,
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i think, the most dramatic scenes. temperatures up to 18 degrees, of course, coming down as the showers develop. they are likely to be accompanied by thunder, hail, lightning and some quite gusty winds at times. and then that low pressure centre just swirls its way south across the uk through thursday. some more organised bands of showers wrapped around it. but also, again, once the sun comes out, we'lljust warm up the quite unstable atmosphere just a little bit more, and pop off some showers. well, a possibility just about anywhere. the difference for thursday, slightly lighter winds. so that will slow down how quickly the showers move across us and could mean some of us see some significantly higher rainfall totals. that low, though, does sink away south for friday. so by friday, it looks like many of us will be under this big area of high pressure and see some quieter dry weather. i can't promise you that much sunshine necessarily, though, because a northeasterly wind is likely to drag in quite a lot of low cloud from the north sea, quite gloomy along many of the north sea coasts. and we've still got the low quite close
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by on the continent. so i think the chance of some showers across southern england from time to time. northwestern areas faring best in terms of any sunshine. into saturday, and the high pressure tries to hang on in there. but it looks like we'll start to see this area of low pressure, particularly as we get into the second half of the weekend, trying to advance some weather fronts in from the northwest. so i think the driest and brightest of the two days this coming weekend will be saturday. sunday starting off with sunshine for many, but look out for some rain as the day plays out.
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us lawmakers wrap up a face—to—face meeting, with no signs of being any closer to breaking a deadlock on the debt ceiling. goldman sachs agrees to pay more than $200 million to settle sex discrimination claims with thousands of women. hello and welcome to asia business report. i'm karishma vaswani. "good news and bad news" — that was the verdict chuck schumer, the democratic leader of the senate, gave to a meeting which has wrapped up a short while ago. top us lawmakers met for about an hour in the oval office, trying to find a way out of a potential debt default. but no agreement was reached.
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