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hello and welcome to the programme. whether it is stopping the boats in the uk, stemming the surge in germany or lifting the trump era title 42 in the us, immigration dominates political agendas all around the world. the archbishop of canterbury made his thoughts known today. for how these three countries are dealing with migrants and asylum seekers. on the programme also, protests across pakistan after former president imran khan was detained on corruption charges. it has increased the tension between his supporters and the military with elections due later this year. a day after being found guilty of sexual assault and defamation, donald trump is due to take centre stage at a town hall event in new hampshire. and it's a life—saving drug which millions of americans can't afford.

the ceos of pharmaceutical companies defend the prohibitive cost of insulin to diabetics in the us. first, the archbishop of canterbury has attacked the british government's illegal migration bill is morally unacceptable legislation that will damage the uk interest and reputation at home and abroad. justin welby said it wouldn't fulfil the prime minister rishi sunak�*s pledged to stop the boats and ignored the two key causes of international migration, the climate crisis and war. immigration minister robertjenrick said justin welby was wrong and the bill would be a serious deterrent. here is how justin welby outlined why in his opinion the proposals don't tackle the problem. opinion the proposals don't tackle the problem-— the problem. even if this bill succeeded — the problem. even if this bill succeeded in _ the problem. even if this bill succeeded in temporarily - the problem. even if this bill - succeeded in temporarily stopping the boats, and i don't think it will, it won't stop conflict or climate migration. the ipcc forecast that climate change by itself, let

alone the conflict it is already causing, will lead to at least 800 million more refugees a year in total by 2050. and what if other countries follow suit? the unhcr has warned that the bill could lead to the collapse of the international system that protects refugees. is that what we want? the united kingdom's contribution to be in our leadership? kingdom's contribution to be in our leadershi - ? �* , kingdom's contribution to be in our leadershi? �*, , , ., ~ kingdom's contribution to be in our leadership?— leadership? let's speak to our olitical leadership? let's speak to our political correspondent - leadership? let's speak to our political correspondent ian - leadership? let's speak to our- political correspondent ian watson, in westminster. justin welby didn't hold back, using language like morally unacceptable, damaging the uk's interests at home and abroad... why did he feel the need to make this intervention today? i why did he feel the need to make this intervention today?— this intervention today? i think because he's — this intervention today? i think because he's had _ this intervention today? i think because he's had a _ this intervention today? i think i because he's had a long-standing because he's had a long—standing opposition to the government policy, so when the government announced their intention to deport people who arrive by a legal routes to the

wanda, he suggested the policy was ungodly. —— bya wanda, he suggested the policy was ungodly. —— by a legal routes. he wants the uk to be a safe haven for refugees. he also quoted the bible today and suggested we should be opening our houses to strangers. what he is effectively saying is he worries about people from the poorest parts of the world perhaps being discriminated against here. he does have a seat as the head of church of england in the house of lords so he does have a platform from which to make his arguments. from the government point of view, they think he does not have a monopoly on deciding what is moral and what isn't. their argument is it was perfectly moral for them to say, look, people are losing their lives in the english channel, people coming to this country. people smugglers are profiting from this. they are trying to stop that trade, is a moral and political issue. that argument is going to rage, but what

was important today is the house of lords considering this illegal immigration legislation for the first time, they will scrutinise it line by line towards the end of this month. and it's likely they will make changes which the government in the house of commons, the lower house, managed to see off, including from some of their supporters. two former conservative leaders, theresa may and iain duncan smith, very keen to ensure people who say they are victims of modern slavery, for example, will be taken seriously and be allowed to give evidence against the people they are accusing. they think this bill will see those claims rejected and either be deported back to the country from where they came or ultimately to a wonder. they are worried on that score. lots of worry across the political spectrum. score. lots of worry across the politicalspectrum. —— score. lots of worry across the political spectrum. —— ultimately to the wanda. one ofjustin welby�*s

concerns, it's the attempt to try to increase the number of safe and legal routes into the uk while the house of lords debate this issue in the coming months.— house of lords debate this issue in the coming months. thank you, ian. now to germany. _ the coming months. thank you, ian. now to germany. the _ the coming months. thank you, ian. now to germany. the interior - now to germany. the interior ministers of two states bordering poland have called for the reintroduction of border controls with poland and the czech republic. the state of brandenburg and saxony say there is no under way —— no other way to stem the surge in migration. most migrants are refugees from iraq, syria, yemen and iran travelling from belarus into poland. the eu says the belarus president alexander lukashenko is using migration to undermine the freedoms of the schengen zone. a number of leaders of german states want the federal government to give them more money to pay for the refugees they have already taken in. i am joined by a board

refugees they have already taken in. iam joined by a board member of refugees they have already taken in. i am joined by a board member of a foundation in warsaw that helps people. to leave their own countries and the communities in which they settle. thank you forjoining us. how much of an issue has this become in germany? why are the leaders of these 13 states calling for action to be taken?— to be taken? basically, because since the summer— to be taken? basically, because since the summer 2021, - to be taken? basically, because since the summer 2021, the - to be taken? basically, because| since the summer 2021, the new to be taken? basically, because - since the summer 2021, the new route into europe has been established. the route through polish belarus border. most of people who cross through this path are indeed not willing, not planning to stay in poland. they are mostly heading further into eu. so despite the pushbacks that have been conducted since the beginning of this crisis,

thousands of people cross into germany and further. it thousands of people cross into germany and further. if border controls are — germany and further. if border controls are increased, - germany and further. if border controls are increased, where l germany and further. if border i controls are increased, where will these people go? will they stay in poland? is there room for them in poland? is there room for them in poland? in poland? is there room for them in poland? , ., , ., , poland? is there room for them in poland? , .,, ., , poland? in my opinion, there is room for them poland? in my opinion, there is room forthem in — poland? in my opinion, there is room for them in poland. _ poland? in my opinion, there is room for them in poland. we _ poland? in my opinion, there is room for them in poland. we still - poland? in my opinion, there is room for them in poland. we still have - poland? in my opinion, there is room for them in poland. we still have a i for them in poland. we still have a lot of needs, even ourjob market. so i don't think that's the case of poland doesn't have a place for them or even money for them. the problem is the migrants who cross through this path already know how violent representatives of polish states, border guards, army, police are treating people on the move in the

forests. then, even if they are not pushed back, they are thrown into detention centres for half a year, a year or more. so this is not a warm welcome. and that's why people are trying to avoid being caught by polish representatives, and just cross further into europe without being seen or noticed in any kind of way. being seen or noticed in any kind of wa . ,, , �* ., , way. the eu says the belarus president _ way. the eu says the belarus president alexander - way. the eu says the belarus i president alexander lukashenko is using migration to undermine the freedoms of the schengen zone. how do you respond to that? i freedoms of the schengen zone. how do you respond to that?— do you respond to that? i think that's part _ do you respond to that? i think that's part of — do you respond to that? i think that's part of the _ do you respond to that? i think that's part of the truth. - do you respond to that? i think that's part of the truth. maybe | do you respond to that? i think i that's part of the truth. maybe the other reason also to show eu, poland as well of course, is the one that is just saying that human rights are

important here, are valid, are respected here. while the pushbacks and the violence is so visible on this border. so i think he clearly wants the world to see that this is just a lie, that we are humanitarians. and also, of course, the crisis started before the war in ukraine. and i think part of the reason of why it started then, it was also to create some kind of distraction among eu's eastern border. . ~' , ., , distraction among eu's eastern border. ., ~ , ., , . distraction among eu's eastern border. ., ~ , . ., border. thank you very much for “oininu border. thank you very much for joining us- _ border. thank you very much for joining us. thank _ border. thank you very much for joining us. thank you. _ the united states is facing similar problems at the southern border with mexico, and that could get worse this week, because three years after it was first introduced, the trump policy known as title 42 expires on

thursday. the order, introduced during the covid pandemic, allowed the border authorities to swiftly expel migrants at us [and borders, but without those provisions they are bracing for further influx of migrants. let's go to our correspondent sophie long. how many people are we talking? an influx is a word loaded with meaning, and makes people feel nervous as well. yes, know this is the word. let me just explain exactly where i am. i'm in downtown el paso, a border town a stone throw from one of the three crossings. behind me is the church of the sacred heart. this has been an area where migrants coming from various different countries have congregated over many months. normally it is very busy here. you can see a few people milling around. being served food just by the church. normally there are hundreds

of people here. yesterday morning, those numbers decreased and has been doing throughout the day. two factors at play here. we are told the authorities have been handing out flyers to migrants, encouraging them, if they have come illegally, to turn themselves into the authorities, to the nearest place they can do that. and then the wording is that they will be directed in the right migratory path. it seems that either people have been taking heed of that advice and turning themselves into the authorities or they are hiding in fear of the border patrol agents coming here later today. what we are seeing is the authorities and migrants who have come here preparing for the end of title 42, the covid era policy that has been in place for three years which allowed authorities to expel migrants to much immediately. lots of people are warning of surges, we are already seeing that. on monday according to the authorities, they

counted nearly 10,000 people trying to cross the border. so we are already seeing surges in numbers, as we do every time we expect a change to the policy along the border. president biden was here in el paso injanuary, experiencing similar in january, experiencing similar surges injanuary, experiencing similar surges of numbers of people then coming across. what happens when people hear that there is going to be a change in policy is there is a raised level of anxiety, if you like. more than 150,000 people in camps along the mexican border, the southern border with the united states, waiting to come in. and those numbers are not decreasing. more and more people come every day, so when they hear there is going to be a change, some people think this is their last opportunity to get in. because when title 42 ceases to be used at midnight on thursday, older regulations, title eight will come into effect. we might see summary expulsions stop, but we will see

what they are calling an expedited removal process which will then take effect. �* , . ., , effect. briefly, what actually chances effect. briefly, what actually changes tomorrow _ effect. briefly, what actually changes tomorrow in - effect. briefly, what actually. changes tomorrow in practical effect. briefly, what actually - changes tomorrow in practical terms? in practical terms, come midnight on thursday, title 42 will no longer be used. title eight, a decades old code which governs immigration in the united states, will go back into effect if you like. what will happen then, people will need to demonstrate they have come legally, that they have sought asylum in another country, and then they will go to an interview process called a credible fear interview, where they will have to demonstrate to the authorities that they have a credible reason for coming here to the united states and seeking asylum. the onus will be on them to do that. migrants will now have to demonstrate that they have a right to be here, and to seek asylum, and if they don't, they will be removed from the country. this policy has

already attracted some criticism. because along with that harsher penalty, so if someone does come illegally and they are removed from the country, they will be barred from seeking asylum for five years after that, which didn't exist under title 42. ., after that, which didn't exist under title 42. , ., ,., ., ~ title 42. sophie in el paso, thank ou ve title 42. sophie in el paso, thank you very much — title 42. sophie in el paso, thank you very much for _ title 42. sophie in el paso, thank you very much for the _ title 42. sophie in el paso, thank you very much for the update. i title 42. sophie in el paso, thank i you very much for the update. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. some of the other stories making headlines, flash flooding in southern england has led to a major incident being declared in somerset. the environment agency said some homes had to be evacuated due to mudslides and further flooding is possible. some areas saw more than two weeks' worth of rainfall in the space of a few hours. a baby has been born using three people's dna for the first time in the uk. the pioneering technique is an attempt to prevent children being born with devastating mitochondrial diseases.

the dna came from its two—parent and less than 1% is from a donor woman. the chair of the department store john lewis has said the company will always be owned by its staff, as employees today backed a vote of confidence. dame sharon white was considering bringing outside investment to the group in an effort to boost growth, which led to her leadership being under scrutiny. dame sharon white has ruled out a minority sale for now. you are live with bbc news. republican congressman george santos has been charged with 13 counts of fraud, money laundering and theft of public funds. the new york representative turned himself into authorities today as news of the charges emerged. he has been plagued by scandal since he took office in january. much of his biography was found to be fabricated. if he is convicted, he could face up to 20

years in prison. he previously admitted to being a terrible liar, in an attempt to be accepted by his party, but he has denied any criminal wrongdoing. party, but he has denied any criminalwrongdoing. let's party, but he has denied any criminal wrongdoing. let's go to jessica parker, our correspondent in washington. what do these charges entail? this washington. what do these charges entail? �* , washington. what do these charges entail? ~ , washington. what do these charges entail? a ., , ., entail? as you say, 13 charges that he faces in — entail? as you say, 13 charges that he faces in total. _ entail? as you say, 13 charges that he faces in total. just _ entail? as you say, 13 charges that he faces in total. just to _ entail? as you say, 13 charges that he faces in total. just to boil- entail? as you say, 13 charges that he faces in total. just to boil them | he faces in total. just to boil them down, he is accused of taking unemployment benefit during the pandemic when he in fact had paid employment. he is also accused of taking campaign contributions and then using that money to, amongst other things, withdraw cash, settle personal debts and purchase macro luxury designer items, using that campaign money improperly. he is accused of lying about his financial situation to the house of representatives. he has been appearing in court in long island,

new york state, this afternoon. and he has just emerged from court. new york state, this afternoon. and he hasjust emerged from court. we have heard he has pleaded not guilty to all the charges. this is what he had to say to a huge group of reporters. i had to say to a huge group of reporters— had to say to a huge group of reporters. i know you all have questions. — reporters. i know you all have questions. i _ reporters. i know you all have questions, i know— reporters. i know you all have| questions, i know everybody's reporters. i know you all have i questions, i know everybody's been waiting _ questions, i know everybody's been waiting for— questions, i know everybody's been waiting for the moment, for me to come _ waiting for the moment, for me to come out — waiting for the moment, for me to come out and talk to you guys. this is the _ come out and talk to you guys. this is the beginning... addressing and defending — is the beginning... addressing and defending myself. we have an indictment, we have the information the government wants to come after me. the government wants to come after me i've _ the government wants to come after me. i've been complying throughout this entire _ me. i've been complying throughout this entire process, i have no desire — this entire process, i have no desire not— this entire process, i have no desire not to comply at this point. i'm going — desire not to comply at this point. i'm going to have to go and fight to defend _ i'm going to have to go and fight to defend myself. the reality is, it's a witchhunt. it makes no sense that in four— a witchhunt. it makes no sense that in four months, five months, i'm indicted — in four months, five months, i'm indicted. you have joe biden's entire — indicted. you have joe biden's entire family receiving deposits from _ entire family receiving deposits from nine — entire family receiving deposits from nine family members receiving

members _ from nine family members receiving members from foreign destinations into their— members from foreign destinations into their bank accounts. it's been yearsm _ into their bank accounts. it's been yearsm a— into their bank accounts. it's been yearsm a lot— into their bank accounts. it's been years... a lot of you have reported on them _ years... a lot of you have reported on them and _ years... a lot of you have reported on them. and yet no investigation is launched _ on them. and yet no investigation is launched into them. i'm going to fight _ launched into them. i'm going to fight i'm — launched into them. i'm going to fight. i'm getting back to that... i'm going — fight. i'm getting back to that... i'm going to fight my battle, i'm going _ i'm going to fight my battle, i'm going to — i'm going to fight my battle, i'm going to deliver and fight the witchhunt, i'm going to clear my name _ witchhunt, i'm going to clear my name and — witchhunt, i'm going to clear my name and i_ witchhunt, i'm going to clear my name and i look forward to doing that _ name and i look forward to doing that i _ name and i look forward to doing that. ., �* ~' ., name and i look forward to doing that. ~' ., name and i look forward to doing that. ., �* ~ ., ., ., that. i don't know if you have heard that. i don't know if you have heard that already. _ that. i don't know if you have heard that already, jessica, _ that. i don't know if you have heard that already, jessica, that's - that. i don't know if you have heard that already, jessica, that's the i that already, jessica, that's the first time i heard him speaking today. does it surprise you to hear him denying everything so vehemently? he him denying everything so vehemently?— him denying everything so vehemently? him denying everything so vehementl ? ., , him denying everything so vehementl ? ., ., vehemently? he has really come out swinuain vehemently? he has really come out swinging from _ vehemently? he has really come out swinging from that _ vehemently? he has really come out swinging from that court _ vehemently? he has really come out| swinging from that court appearance. released on $500,000 bond. look, he has been attracting headlines, interest, intrigue for quite some time. basically more or less since he was elected for the first time to congress, to the house of representatives, in november last year. as you mentioned before, he has faced numerous accusations of lying about his background, about

his business background, his academic background. he has admitted to being dishonest about what he achieved academically, but has dismissed some other claims against him. and as you can see there, he is saying that he is going to fight these charges, he says he wants to clear his name. and we are hearing from his team that he plans to run for the elections. 50 from his team that he plans to run for the elections.— from his team that he plans to run for the elections. so what happens next, for the elections. so what happens next. jessica? _ for the elections. so what happens next, jessica? he _ for the elections. so what happens next, jessica? he will— for the elections. so what happens next, jessica? he will clearly i for the elections. so what happens next, jessica? he will clearly fight| next, jessica? he will clearly fight this case. next, jessica? he will clearly fight this case- he _ next, jessica? he will clearly fight this case. he has _ next, jessica? he will clearly fight this case. he has been _ next, jessica? he will clearly fight this case. he has been released i next, jessica? he will clearly fight i this case. he has been released from custody for the time being. it's interesting to watch what has been going on in terms of the republicans in the house of representatives. many people will know that they are defending a rather slim majority there. kevin mccarthy, the speaker there. kevin mccarthy, the speaker there today, saying he's going to let this court case play out, he doesn't seem keen to move ahead with any suggestion that they could try and expel him. he wants to see the

judicial process play out as well. and from what george santos is saying, he is absolutely not planning on resigning either. jessica in washington, thank you. yesterday he was found guilty of sexual assault and defamation by a jury sexual assault and defamation by a jury in new york. today, the former us president donald trump is being given a high—profile platform at a town hall event in new hampshire organised and televised by cnn. trump, who polls have a front runner for the republican president nomination, will take questions from republicans and independents who say they intend to vote in the new hampshire primary. cnn says all voices should be heard on its network but critics say the town hall format won't hold him to account. i am joined hall format won't hold him to account. iam joined by hall format won't hold him to account. i am joined by philip, hall format won't hold him to account. iam joined by philip, a national columnist at the washington post. do you agree with the critics or will he be held to account at the town hall tonight? i or will he be held to account at the town hall tonight?— town hall tonight? i would count m self town hall tonight? i would count myself among — town hall tonight? i would count myself among the _ town hall tonight? i would count myself among the critics. -

town hall tonight? i would count myself among the critics. i i town hall tonight? i would count myself among the critics. i have | myself among the critics. i have written about this. it certainly is the case that someone running for office, particularly someone in the presidential candidacy, should be asked questions and have an opportunity to respond. the challenge here is we know donald trump is not reliable, he says things that are not true constantly. and has a tendency to stoke a potentially violent reaction as we have seen in the past. you can do this to tape, you can push back, it doesn't have to be just an hour, you can spend a lot of time interviewing him and edit it so you present things which are factually true and push back on his claims, but cnn is not choosing to do that and i think it's probably a bad decision. 50 it's probably a bad decision. so what do you expect to happen tonight? will he come out all guns blazing? how much will he talk about the events of yesterday when he was found guilty by a jury of sexual assault and deformation? it’s found guilty by a jury of sexual assault and deformation? it's going to be fascinating. _ assault and deformation? it's going to be fascinating. donald _ assault and deformation? it's going to be fascinating. donald trump i assault and deformation? it's going| to be fascinating. donald trump has never proven adept at controlling his emotions. this is a situation in

which it would be who him to do so, try to stay calm and not to disparage ejean carroll, the woman he was found of having assaulted. if he was found of having assaulted. if he could do this in a calm and rational way, he could do this in a calm and rationalway, it he could do this in a calm and rational way, it could benefit him. to say the critics were wrong... but i think the odds of him doing that are low. this is not the donald trump that has presented himself to the american public in the last eight years. the american public in the last eight years-— the american public in the last eiuht ears. ., , �* ., eight years. donald trump hasn't had the smoothest _ eight years. donald trump hasn't had the smoothest of _ eight years. donald trump hasn't had the smoothest of relationships i eight years. donald trump hasn't had the smoothest of relationships with l the smoothest of relationships with cnn, he refused to talk to them in the past. why suddenly now are the two is so cosy?— two is so cosy? trump is always opportunistic— two is so cosy? trump is always opportunistic about _ two is so cosy? trump is always opportunistic about these i two is so cosy? trump is always l opportunistic about these things. allegations of fake news, generally timed when people are critical of him. cnn has a big audience, he gets to speak to a lot of people and declare as the centre of attention, which he always likes. it seems likely, based on reporting out

there, that he reached some deal with cnn, an agreement of how this would proceed that was to his liking, perhaps to do it live and not have any interjections from anchors with questions. so for him there is the obvious benefit not only of having this big audience but also being treated as someone credible and viable beyond just fox news and the right—wing media audience, which is something he hasn't had for a long time. the olls hasn't had for a long time. the polls still _ hasn't had for a long time. the polls still have _ hasn't had for a long time. the polls still have him _ hasn't had for a long time. the polls still have him as the frontrunner for the presidential nomination. how did the outcome yesterday affect that or has he not seen a dip at all? i yesterday affect that or has he not seen a dip at all?— seen a dip at all? i would be surprised — seen a dip at all? i would be surprised if— seen a dip at all? i would be surprised if he _ seen a dip at all? i would be surprised if he did. - seen a dip at all? i would be surprised if he did. in i seen a dip at all? i would be surprised if he did. in the i surprised if he did. in the aftermath, for example, of the criminal charges brought against him, his position consolidated. he has done a very good job since late 2016 in preparing his base of support for the expectation that he will be targeted not because he has done anything wrong, but because his political opponents want to stand in

his way. he has framed the charges in new york in this way, this in this way... when you look at his high profile support base, they say, here we go again, coming off the donald trump. many of them buy into the rhetoric that he is standing in the rhetoric that he is standing in the weight of the elite, when they are trying to target his based dad base, and that is how they perceive it. —— standing in the way. i think very little effect on him in a primary, but general election may be a different story. the primary, but general election may be a different story.— a different story. the last question. _ a different story. the last question, how _ a different story. the last question, how many i a different story. the last l question, how many people a different story. the last i question, how many people will a different story. the last - question, how many people will be watching? i presume you will be among that number? i watching? i presume you will be among that number?— watching? i presume you will be among that number? i will own that! it will be heavily _ among that number? i will own that! it will be heavily watched _ among that number? i will own that! it will be heavily watched and - among that number? i will own that! it will be heavily watched and it i it will be heavily watched and it amplifies the risks for cnn. philip, thank ou amplifies the risks for cnn. philip, thank you very _ amplifies the risks for cnn. philip, thank you very much. _ amplifies the risks for cnn. philip, thank you very much. national- thank you very much. national columnist at the washington post. 20 more still to come. —— plenty more. you are watching the context. more

on the bbc website and bbc news app. hello there. well, it's been a day of sunny spells and some heavy showers. certainly the skies look very dark and threatening here in ashbourne, in derbyshire, with a big shower cloud working across the horizon. and we have seen showers widely across the uk today, but most of the day's thunderstorms have tended to concentrate across east scotland, central and eastern parts of england, as well. now it's been another wet month so far, across parts of southern england, we've already had more than the average for may — that makes it the third consecutive month in a row that's been wetter than normal. and across parts of northern scotland, like the last couple of months, it's been drier than normal across the north of the uk. now during this evening and overnight, the area of low pressure responsible for the showers

slips into northern ireland. so there will be further showers here, some keeping going across western parts of england and wales, but otherwise, most of the day, showers will fade away and we'll have some clear spells overnight. temperatures for most between 6—8 celsius. tomorrow, another showery day — those showers with us straightaway in northern ireland. now elsewhere, you'll manage a bit of morning sunshine before those showers really get going across east scotland, eastern england. once they've developed here during the early afternoon, they'll tend to move inland, leaving some of the biggest downpours later in the afternoon across wales and the midlands, as well. temperatures generally reaching about 15—18 celsius, where we have some sunshine, it won't feel too bad. friday does see some weather changes as this area of high pressure builds into the northwest. this area of low pressure pushes a weather front into eastern areas. a so northeasterly winds are changing the wind direction, bringing a lot more in the way of cloud, perhaps more early morning mist patches, as well. the thickest cloud for eastern and central england, thick enough to bring some light outbreaks of rain as we go through the day.

eastern areas, chilly, temperatures around 13—14 celsius — but where we do have some sunshine in the west, temperatures high teens, might even squeeze out of 20 in one or two areas. the weekend — well, we still have that high pressure to start off with, but then for the second half of the weekend, this cold front is going to very gradually push a band of rain into the northwest. so for most of us, saturday's a decent day — could be a few showers around, but most dry with some sunshine, and we could see temperatures reach the low 20s. it's on sunday that more of us will see outbreaks of rain developing, and it'll turn a bit cooler.

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city rivals go head—to—head in a tantalising tie. technically, it's a -- ac —— ac milan. 30 minutes on the clock and there appears to have also now been a penalty given as well. it could even be at 3—0 two what is technically the visiting side, inter milan. the winner will face either real madrid or manchester city. there's been plenty of fallout following the match surprising haaland, who said he was escorted from his seat

following the match at the bernabeu. there have been reports that he had also grown food at the supporters, but he insists that is not true. big night in the english women's super league as the title raise get closer to a thrilling climax. they are thrashing strugglers leicester 5—0. that looks pretty much safely in the bag. also safely in the bag, arsenal, they were in contention. they hammered brighton to keep pace with the top two. they will be five points behind chelsea if things stay this way. worth saying the penalty in that champions league semifinal between inter milan and ac milan has been overturned on the clock. star

striker beth mead said she's ahead of schedule in her acl injury. sarina wiegman said it would be a miracle if mead returned to full fitness. she says she's ok to kick a ball once again, but she admits the final decision will lie with the tournament. —— with sarina wiegman. after all the choosing to bat, tournament. —— with sarina wiegman. after all the choosing to hat, the super kings were unable to make 167, it proves to be northern enough as they fell 28 runs short of their target. —— more than enough. they're just one point behind leaders. another injury setback for tiger woods as he's been rolled out of the

2023 pga championship with an ankle injury. since a car crash in 2021 left him with leg injuries. hoping to return recover in time for the next us open in mid june. plenty of drama as wet weather caused havoc on stage five. first time, came off the bike because of a stray dog. mark cavendish crossed the finishing line sideways after being clipped in a sprint finish or. that's all you're sport for now. back to you. that fall looked pretty nasty, didn't it? pakistan's army has warned it will

take firm action if protesters attack public protesters. there been protesters for a second day after mr khan was detained. you lease a nearly 1000 people have been arrested in a number of people have died —— police have said. mr khan denies the allegations that he sold state gifts during his time in charge. caroline davies reports. burning into the night — protests from lahore, karachi, peshawar. this was the singed aftermath, the reaction to imran khan's arrest yesterday. but the unrest is far from over. morning in islamabad. police blocked roads into the compound where imran khan was due to appear in front of a judge. some party officials were stopped at the gates. have you spoken to him since yesterday? no, we have no access yet. that is why i'm demanding access. we are being denied access. beyond the boundaries of the compound, imran khan's supporters

began to gather. this is the path through towards the police line. that's the police compound. and the supporters of imran khan have broken through, blocked up a large amount of the road, and you can see here the clouds of tear gas as the police are trying to attempt to stop them from getting any closer. imran khan's party, the pti, said they wanted the pti, said they wanted protests to continue, but to be peaceful. we saw supporters arrive with sticks and stones. "they've shelled on us," says this man, referring to the metal tear gas shells. "this is what we've brought to fight against them". "you seem to be prepared," we ask. "we're going to bring shotguns and pistols next time if they keep shelling on us like this", he replies. protests reignited in peshawar, too, too, with the crowd chanting, "imran khan, your supporters are numerous!". supporters are numerous!" in islamabad, behind the police

line, imran khan faced two corruption cases. on one, he was formally charged and pled not guilty. the full trial will now begin. on the second, he was told he would be remanded for eight days in police custody for investigation. against this febrile backdrop, pakistan is waiting to hold national elections while its economy teeters on the brink. the question of who will run pakistan is one neither side is willing to back down from. caroline davies, bbc news, islamabad. pakistan's prime minister has addressed the nation and criticised in ronkonkoma who he refers to as nigh ozzie, blaming him for the state of violence. we nigh ozzie, blaming him for the state of violence.— nigh ozzie, blaming him for the state of violence. we cannot re'oice over any arrests. it i state of violence. we cannot re'oice over any arrests. it is i state of violence. we cannot re'oice over any arrests. it is indeed i state of violence. we cannot re'oice over any arrests. it is indeed a i over any arrests. it is indeed a difficult moment in one's life and something we have experienced numerous times. in such a moment, the true test is of the leader who holds back his supporters from

violating the law. they should ensure the safety of human life and the protection of public and private property, but it is most important that let alone following the legal course, imran and pt! have committed the unforgivable crime of enmity towards the state. we have never witnessed such heartbreaking scenes in the 70 year history of pakistan. let's speak to michael kuhlman, the director of the south asia institute of the wilson centre in washington. thank you forjoining us. are you surprised by the scale of the reaction to imran khan's arrest? not all, he is no ordinary political leader. he enjoys a great support base and he's only grown more popular over the years since his ouster. he's always been able to

capitalise about corruption, and given what happened to him and many of his allies, suggested he's been validated and he's only going to become even more popular. at any rate, since his base is so impassioned, it was not going to be the case with her and sit quietly and do nothing, but of course the concern now is that the protesters are out there and while some leaders from khan's party have caused for them to be peaceful, the concern is them to be peaceful, the concern is the level of violence.— the level of violence. given the scale of the — the level of violence. given the scale of the economic - the level of violence. given the i scale of the economic problems, the level of violence. given the - scale of the economic problems, does imran khan not get any of the blame for that? ~ ; a, , for that? well, certainly, he could have taken — for that? well, certainly, he could have taken a _ for that? well, certainly, he could have taken a very _ for that? well, certainly, he could have taken a very different - have taken a very different direction after he was ousted in a parliamentary no—confidence vote last year. he could have sat back and prepared for the election, which of course is scheduled to happen

this coming october. but he has rejected the no—confidence vote and he had become an activist and reveled in this role of opposition who try to make life difficult for the government and so on. that is then prompted the government to engage the in politics where they've gone after him and his allies, and one can argue that when the need of the hour is to focus on the economic crisis, it's really unfortunate that the political situation became so tense. he decided not to sit quietly. that's not his style and he believes that vote was not legitimate, but here we are indeed. pakistan is very close to defaulting in the next few weeks, and with the political situation so volatile and dangerous, that certainly is not going to encourage external donors and foreign investors to come in and

assist financially.— assist financially. what is the role ofthe assist financially. what is the role of the military _ assist financially. what is the role of the military and _ assist financially. what is the role of the military and all— assist financially. what is the role of the military and all this? - assist financially. what is the role of the military and all this? i - of the military and all this? i think it's played a very direct role, including in the arrest. khan had a falling out with the last army chief. eversince, iwould had a falling out with the last army chief. ever since, i would argue the senior army leadership, including the current chief, don't want khan to be able to return to power. they simply don't want him to be seen. having him arrested takes him out of the picture. of course, it's still possible for him to contest elections from a jail cell. that's what makes me think of the next direction that the army leadership may go in, to build a case to disqualify khan from public office, making it impossible for him to participate in the election. as well as the number of other correction

related charges. but i do think that's the next step, particularly the leadership may go in, to try to ensure that khan cannot return to power. at the end of the day, the army leadership has taken the gloves off and is trying to do everything it can to really make it impossible for him to return to power. [30 it can to really make it impossible for him to return to power. do you think these _ for him to return to power. do you think these charges _ for him to return to power. do you think these charges are _ for him to return to power. do you think these charges are purely - think these charges are purely politically motivated? i think these charges are purely politically motivated?- think these charges are purely politically motivated? i mean, we're talkin: politically motivated? i mean, we're talking about _ politically motivated? i mean, we're talking about a _ politically motivated? i mean, we're talking about a large _ politically motivated? i mean, we're talking about a large number - politically motivated? i mean, we're talking about a large number of - talking about a large number of charges here. so, certainly, one could argue that perhaps there could be some truth to some of these corruption —related charges. in pakistan, there is a significant level of corruption within the political class. though relative to so many other political parties and political figures, so many other political parties and politicalfigures, i think khan would not rank very high on the corruption list. certainly, if you look at this on a more detailed

level, khan has been served with many notices to appear in court. he said it's dangerous for him to go to court because he was nearly assassinated last year. from a procedural level, he has not cooperated with court orders, and that certainly is something against him. but i do think most of these charges, especially these most recent ones, i do think we need to look at that in the broader context of the vendetta playing out between the military leadership and khan and this broader goal of trying to generate this pretext to take him out of the picture, so to speak. michael kuhlman, the south asian institute wilson center director in washington. it's been reported that three more presenters work executed in iran this morning, bringing the number to more than 50 in less than two weeks. human rights group said

the prisoners were put to death after being found guilty of drug offences on tuesday. the human rights chief expressed dismay at what he's all the frighteningly high number of execution this year. my guess is the human rights director and iran, andjoins me in new guess is the human rights director and iran, and joins me in new york. do these people have any legal representation at all?— do these people have any legal representation at all? yes, that is the main problem _ representation at all? yes, that is the main problem with _ representation at all? yes, that is the main problem with iranian - the main problem with iranian judiciary and its x divided that penalty across the courts. there is very little due process and you cannot choose your own lawyer. what is really sad is that these death penalty cases are fast tracked and happening very short time. just today, we have of the news that three protesters from last fall, the

court has confirmed their death sentences. i can't talk about due process that we are familiar with. what pressure can the international human rights community and world leaders put on the iranian government in order to carry out due process before these kinds of executions can take place? yes. executions can take place? yes, first, we executions can take place? yes, first. we must— executions can take place? yes, first, we must acknowledge - executions can take place? ike: first, we must acknowledge the islamic republic is fairly isolated, yet has the support of countries like china, russia, an action at the un level or security council very difficult. the international community is failing the iranian people. the intention is only when protests are happening. but let me say that since september, the un special expert on iran has

characterised the atrocities in iran as crimes against humanity. this is as crimes against humanity. this is a really serious charge in this execution continue that trend. the international community needs to understand and use the timeout —— sign up to crimes against humanity. the silence we're hearing is very troubling and we need to get the community involved and hold the government account. is community involved and hold the government account.— community involved and hold the government account. is there still an appetite _ government account. is there still an appetite for — government account. is there still an appetite for protests _ government account. is there still an appetite for protests in - government account. is there still an appetite for protests in iran? l an appetite for protests in iran? we've seen video of brave people taking to the streets and making their voices heard. are people still doing that now in light of these executions? i doing that now in light of these executions?— executions? i would say the attitude. — executions? i would say the attitude, the _ executions? i would say the attitude, the desire - executions? i would say the attitude, the desire and - executions? i would say the attitude, the desire and thej executions? i would say the - attitude, the desire and the want and the need, it's really x essential need by this time by majority of iranians to improve their lives. it is absolutely there, when we talk to people. nothing has changed except everything is in a

holding pattern. for now, the government has used maximum violence to assert itself, but it is temporary. we've seen wave after wave of protests being met with harsh repression, only to have those protests come back in much, much larger scale. protests come back in much, much largerscale. i protests come back in much, much larger scale. i think we're in one of those moments that we should anticipate very large protests in the coming months and this year for sure. ., . ., . , sure. how concerning is the situation — sure. how concerning is the situation for _ sure. how concerning is the situation for iranians - sure. how concerning is the situation for iranians living | situation for iranians living outside the country who have family and relatives there? tier? outside the country who have family and relatives there?— and relatives there? very much, so the 're and relatives there? very much, so they're very — and relatives there? very much, so they're very concerned _ and relatives there? very much, so they're very concerned about even l they're very concerned about even travelling back and forth. it's very tricky for them. if they have a voice in a platform as an opposition, they're in danger. there have been many assassination attempts. most importantly, they worry about their families who have to confront economic, political,

social and environmental crises. this summer we're going to see major water shortages as previous years, drought and environmental disasters on the corner. so the war is for the iranian people, notjust the repression, but all the voices that do not get any attention from the current government.— do not get any attention from the current government. thank you very much for your— current government. thank you very much for your time, _ current government. thank you very much for your time, hadi _ current government. thank you very much for your time, hadi ghaemi, l much for your time, hadi ghaemi, director of the centre for human rights in iran. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. we didn't realise until we open the tv, and we realised there was a war with the sudanese army.— with the sudanese army. reliving their escape _ with the sudanese army. reliving their escape from _ with the sudanese army. reliving their escape from civil _ with the sudanese army. reliving their escape from civil war- with the sudanese army. reliving their escape from civil war - - with the sudanese army. reliving their escape from civil war - the l their escape from civil war — the family from six for our sure was in

sudan to celebrate ramadan when fighting broke out. itill" sudan to celebrate ramadan when fighting broke out.— fighting broke out. our front door was ri ed fighting broke out. our front door was ripped open _ fighting broke out. our front door was ripped open by _ fighting broke out. our front door was ripped open by a _ fighting broke out. our front door was ripped open by a bullet - fighting broke out. our front door was ripped open by a bullet fired | was ripped open by a bullet fired inside the house, and looking enough, there wasn't anyone around the door. since the war started, we just stayed in the middle of the house. ,, just stayed in the middle of the house, ,, , , , house. she escapes the fighting, but needed to leave _ house. she escapes the fighting, but needed to leave the _ house. she escapes the fighting, but needed to leave the country. - house. she escapes the fighting, but needed to leave the country. they i needed to leave the country. they needed to leave the country. they need to get to port sudan for one of the final evacuation flights by the raf. j the final evacuation flights by the raf. ., , the final evacuation flights by the raf. i, , , , raf. i had my husband with my children, raf. i had my husband with my children. is— raf. i had my husband with my children, is thinking _ raf. i had my husband with my children, is thinking about - raf. i had my husband with my children, is thinking about my l children, is thinking about my parents and siblings, my father and mother and brother. you're live with bbc news. piers morgan was editor from 1995-2004. in the trial that piers morgan was editor from 1995—2004. in the trial that started today, the lawyer for prince harry and three other claimants has claimed they have new evidence

linking mr morgan to phone hacking. in an exclusive interview, mr morgan tells the bbc�*s, garage and he denies any knowledge is unlawful. good to see you. how are you? very good. better known now for being a judge on talent shows, or walking off campaigning and influential tabloid newspaper editor. those years are back in the spotlight this week as prince harry and other claimants bring allegations of phone hacking to the high court. have you ever hacked a phone? no. did phone hacking ever take place during your editorship of the mirror? not that i'm aware of. cos what you're is there's no phone hacking at the mirror? no, to be clear, originally, i said i've never had a phone. i've never told anyone to hack your phone, and no story has ever been published in the mirror in my time from hacking the phone. and then somebody pointed out, "well, you can only know the first

two things for sure." all i can talk to is what i know about my own involvement. i never hacked a phone. i wouldn't even know how. let's just state some facts, for some people that don't know the details — there have been dozens of civil hacking cases against the mirror group, and we know at least five who have been awarded damages for phone hacking by the mirror during the period when you were editor. now, those are the ones we know about. we know about cos they came out in court, but most cases so far against mirror group newspapers have been settled. i only worked for the daily mirror. sure. let's be clear, i only worked for the daily mirror. i never had any responsibility for the sunday mirror or sunday mail, of the sunday people, or any other titles. no responsibility at all. in 2015, the trinity mirror group apologised for historic phone hacking and said, "such behaviour represented an unwarranted and unacceptable intrusion into people's lives." i hear what you're saying... i agree with that, by the way. i think phone hacking is completely wrong and shouldn't have been happening, and it was lazy journalists being lazy. but there's evidence that it happened while you were editor. there's no evidence i knew

anything about any of it. i never told anybody to hack a phone. and nobody on the daily mirror or the hundreds and hundreds, thousands, possibly ofjournalists who worked with me on the daily on the daily mirror have ever even been arrested in connection with phone hacking. so there are lots of civil things going on, but as you know, the bar for that is a lot lower than it is for any criminal action. yes, we can keep going over and over and over this, but the police were pretty thorough in their investigation. what i would say is i have not been involved in any of these settlements at all, nobody has even asked me for my which i think says it all. but does it stretch credulity for an editor as hands—on, as energetic, as intricately involved in the paper, as you were to say, "this stuff was going on, but i didn't know about it." i didn't, so i don't care whether it stretches people's credulity or not, but i can be certain about what i knew and what i did, and no—one has ever produced anything to contradict what i'm saying. prince harry is taking legal action against several tabloid newspaper groups. his legal actions include legal

actions which concern claims about your record at the mirror. are you worried? no, not at all. most people, piers, would find that quite... i couldn't give a monkey's cast. why don't you walk around and ask 100 members of the public, you couldn't give a monkey's cast about the fact that you? why don't you walk around and ask 100 members of the public, "do you think do you have any sympathy for prince harry when it comes to privacy now?" zero. this guy, he's got no time for his family, he comes all the way, 5,000 miles, this eco warrior, to come and lecture the media once again about invasion of privacy and intrusion — and yet he's the biggest invader of privacy in royal history. so, no, i'm not going to take any lectures from him, and i don't give a damn what actions he wants to take. good luck to you. but honestly, it's like being lectured on the truth by donald trump. amol rajan, bbc news. there's been the heaviest fighting in months between israel and palestinian militants. —— israel's

army. including rocket and mortar launch sites. it is really media say more than 300 rockets have been fired, of which just over 200 reached israel, 62 intercepted and 3—hit buildings. during the day, six palestinians have been killed and 45 injured, while several israelis were hurt rushing to shelters. 15 people were killed in israeli air strikes in gaza, including three islamic jihad leaders. militants soared to avenge the death. here's our middle east correspondent yolanda nell. could be seen in action, and then

very quickly, renewed air strikes in the gaza strip. israel has ordered some one and a half million residents living close to gaza to stay in or close to their bomb shelters. normal life for people in gazais shelters. normal life for people in gaza is very much on hold as well. meanwhile, you have this effort continuing by egypt, r and the un to mediate some kind of cease—fire —— qatar. benjamin netanyahu saying the country is ready to explain the operation. there was a statement that was put out by the armed groups in gaza accusing israel of aggression and arrogance, saying the resistance is ready for all options. crucially, while hamas, the biggest militant group in gaza was part of

that statement, it has not been firing from its rocket arsenal, and we're not seeing the israeli military going after hamas militants sites. if that changes, things could exploit quickly. sites. if that changes, things could exploit quickly-— sites. if that changes, things could exploit quickly. yolande knell there injerusalem- _ exploit quickly. yolande knell there in jerusalem. you're _ exploit quickly. yolande knell there in jerusalem. you're watching - exploit quickly. yolande knell there in jerusalem. you're watching the l injerusalem. you're watching the context with me on bbc news. thanks for watching. hello there. well, it's been a day of sunny spells and some heavy showers. certainly, the skies look very dark and threatening here in ashbourne, in derbyshire, with a big shower cloud working across the horizon. and we have seen showers widely across the uk today, but most of the day's thunderstorms have tended to concentrate across east scotland, central and eastern parts of england as well. now, it's been another wet month so far across parts of southern england — we've already had more

than the average for may — that makes it the third consecutive month in a row that's been wetter than normal. and across parts of northern scotland, like the last couple of months, it's been drier than normal across the north of the uk. now during this evening and overnight, the area of low pressure responsible for the showers slips into northern ireland. so there will be further showers here, i—2 keeping going across western parts of england and wales, but otherwise, most of the day, showers will fade away and we'll have some clear spells overnight. temperatures for most between 6—8 celsius. tomorrow, another showery day — those showers with us straightaway in northern ireland. now, elsewhere, you'll manage a bit of morning sunshine before those showers really get going across east scotland, eastern england. once they've developed here during the early afternoon, they'll tend to move inland, leaving some of the biggest downpours later in the afternoon across wales and the midlands as well. temperatures generally reaching about 15—18 celsius, where we have some sunshine, it won't feel too bad. friday does see some weather changes as this area of high pressure builds into the northwest. this area of low pressure pushes a weather front into eastern areas, so northeasterly winds are changing the wind direction, bringing a lot more in the way

of cloud, perhaps some more early—morning mist patches as well. the thickest cloud for eastern and central england, thick enough to bring some light outbreaks of rain as we go through the day. eastern areas, chilly, temperatures around 13—14 celsius — but where we do have some sunshine in the west, temperatures high teens, might even squeeze out of 20 in i—2 areas. the weekend — well, we still have that high pressure to start off with, but then for the second half of the weekend, this cold front is going to very gradually push a band of rain into the northwest. so, for most of us, saturday's a decent day — could be a few showers around, but most dry with some sunshine, and we could see temperatures reach the low 20s. it's on sunday that more of us will see outbreaks of rain developing, and it'll turn a bit cooler.

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donald trump at a town hall. should cnn give the former president such a high—profile platform the day after a jury found high—profile platform the day after ajury found him high—profile platform the day after a jury found him guilty of sexual assault and deformation? we will discuss that with our panellists, jack blanchard, the politico uk editor, and miles taylor, former chief of the us department of homeland security and author of the forthcoming book blowback. we will talk to our washington correspondent as well. thank you both forjoining us. donald trump, on one of the main cable networks at a town hall. myles, this is blockbuster stuff, isn't it? it myles, this is blockbuster stuff, isn't it? . , , ., isn't it? it really is, and i don't think we _ isn't it? it really is, and i don't think we have _ isn't it? it really is, and i don't think we have any _ isn't it? it really is, and i don't think we have any precedents| isn't it? it really is, and i don't. think we have any precedents for this in american media, where we have a man who is notionally the front runner of one of the political parties for president, a former president, and he'sjust been sanctioned in a very big way for sex

abuse in a very prominent trial. it's putting cnn as a network in a very difficult position. i would be very difficult position. i would be very surprised if they did not open the programme by pressing him on this issue. but it's also raising the question, should he be given this platform? the tough thing is the first point i made. he is the presumptive frontrunner, so it's very difficult for news networks not to have a conversation with and about donald trump, just like we are right now, but i think there is also a responsibility, if they are giving him that platform, they need to hold his feet to the fire on things like this, and that's why this case should be the first thing out of the gate that they bring up. i would strongly suspect this is what they do, bring this up, and in some ways that could be very harmful to donald trump. he has to answer for this criminal behaviour in front of the whole country very soon.- whole country very soon. yes, absolutely. — whole country very soon. yes, absolutely, it's _ whole country very soon. yes, absolutely, it's what _ whole country very soon. yes, absolutely, it's what his - whole country very soon. yes, absolutely, it's what his critics have said, the town hall format

won't be holding him to account. let's bring in our north america correspondent nomia iqbal. what do we expect to see in this town hall event this evening?— we expect to see in this town hall event this evening? yes, the former president donald _ event this evening? yes, the former president donald trump _ event this evening? yes, the former president donald trump will - event this evening? yes, the former president donald trump will be - president donald trump will be having — president donald trump will be having this town hall meeting and it will be _ having this town hall meeting and it will be hosted by caitlin collins, a very well— will be hosted by caitlin collins, a very well known correspondent here, who works _ very well known correspondent here, who works for cnn. a lot of the people — who works for cnn. a lot of the people in— who works for cnn. a lot of the people in the crowd, we understand, will be _ people in the crowd, we understand, will be republican voters and independent voters who lean republican, which has caused a lot of criticism — republican, which has caused a lot of criticism. cnn has already been criticised _ of criticism. cnn has already been criticised for doing this anyway. on twitter. _ criticised for doing this anyway. on twitter. the — criticised for doing this anyway. on twitter, the trending hashtag boycott — twitter, the trending hashtag boycott cnn. there is an insinuation that cnn _ boycott cnn. there is an insinuation that cnn has put on a crowd, a group of people. _ that cnn has put on a crowd, a group of people, that could be sympathetic to donald _ of people, that could be sympathetic to donald trump, and is that why he potentially _ to donald trump, and is that why he potentially agreed to do this town

hall in— potentially agreed to do this town hall in the first? remember, that is a network— hall in the first? remember, that is a network he disparaged during much of his— a network he disparaged during much of his presidency. he called it take. — of his presidency. he called it take. a — of his presidency. he called it fake, a hoax, everything they reported _ fake, a hoax, everything they reported on him. so it is an event that will— reported on him. so it is an event that will be — reported on him. so it is an event that will be controversial in so many— that will be controversial in so many ways. and of course it comes 'ust many ways. and of course it comes just a _ many ways. and of course it comes just a couple — many ways. and of course it comes just a couple of days after this verdict — just a couple of days after this verdict came down on him in the case involving _ verdict came down on him in the case involving e _ verdict came down on him in the case involving e jean carroll. yes, verdict came down on him in the case involving e jean carroll.— involving e jean carroll. yes, a day after he was _ involving e jean carroll. yes, a day after he was found _ involving e jean carroll. yes, a day after he was found guilty _ involving e jean carroll. yes, a day after he was found guilty of- involving e jean carroll. yes, a day after he was found guilty of sexualj after he was found guilty of sexual assault and deformation, how much are we expecting him to make of that? , , , ., .,, that? yes, this “my found he was liable of that? yes, this 'ury found he was liable of sexual— that? yes, thisjury found he was liable of sexual abuse. _ that? yes, thisjury found he was liable of sexual abuse. they - that? yes, thisjury found he was liable of sexual abuse. they did l that? yes, thisjury found he was i liable of sexual abuse. they did not find, _ liable of sexual abuse. they did not find, they— liable of sexual abuse. they did not find, they did not back e jean carrolls— find, they did not back e jean carroll's allegation of rape. i imagine _ carroll's allegation of rape. i imagine it will come up. he released a very— imagine it will come up. he released a very angry— imagine it will come up. he released a very angry video on his social media — a very angry video on his social media account in which he called the whole _ media account in which he called the whole thing a hoax, he said he didn't— whole thing a hoax, he said he didn't know who she was, he had never— didn't know who she was, he had never met— didn't know who she was, he had never met her. using the same lines we have _ never met her. using the same lines we have always seen him use with his base, _ we have always seen him use with his base, that _ we have always seen him use with his base, that he is being politically

persecuted and this is a witch hunt. so i would — persecuted and this is a witch hunt. so i would be shocked if he didn't bring _ so i would be shocked if he didn't bring it— so i would be shocked if he didn't bring it up — so i would be shocked if he didn't bring it up— bring it up. let's bring in our -anel bring it up. let's bring in our panel- jack _ bring it up. let's bring in our panel. jack blanchard, - bring it up. let's bring in our panel. jack blanchard, a - bring it up. let's bring in our - panel. jack blanchard, a question for you, the uk editor of politico, it's hard for people in other countries such as the uk to see events in america and compare it with what could happen in the uk or another european country... it seems inconceivable that a man like donald trump could have the popularity he has in america, in the uk or in other countries in europe. haifa has in america, in the uk or in other countries in europe. how many times have — other countries in europe. how many times have we _ other countries in europe. how many times have we seen _ other countries in europe. how many times have we seen it? _ other countries in europe. how many times have we seen it? this - other countries in europe. how many times have we seen it? this guy - times have we seen it? this guy keeps _ times have we seen it? this guy keeps being _ times have we seen it? this guy keeps being found _ times have we seen it? this guy keeps being found guilty- times have we seen it? this guy keeps being found guilty or- times have we seen it? this guy. keeps being found guilty or being accused _ keeps being found guilty or being accused of— keeps being found guilty or being accused of things _ keeps being found guilty or being accused of things that _ keeps being found guilty or being accused of things that any - keeps being found guilty or being accused of things that any other. accused of things that any other politician — accused of things that any other politician in _ accused of things that any other politician in any _ accused of things that any other politician in any other— accused of things that any otheri politician in any other democracy accused of things that any other. politician in any other democracy i can think— politician in any other democracy i can think of. — politician in any other democracy i can think of. it— politician in any other democracy i can think of, it would _ politician in any other democracy i can think of, it would clearly- politician in any other democracy i can think of, it would clearly be i can think of, it would clearly be the end — can think of, it would clearly be the end of— can think of, it would clearly be the end of their— can think of, it would clearly be the end of their career. - can think of, it would clearly be the end of their career. and - can think of, it would clearly bej the end of their career. and yet can think of, it would clearly be i the end of their career. and yet he keeps _ the end of their career. and yet he keeps on _ the end of their career. and yet he keeps on coming _ the end of their career. and yet he keeps on coming back. _ the end of their career. and yet he keeps on coming back. this- the end of their career. and yet he keeps on coming back. this is- the end of their career. and yet he keeps on coming back. this is thel keeps on coming back. this is the latest _ keeps on coming back. this is the latest in _ keeps on coming back. this is the latest in a — keeps on coming back. this is the latest in a very— keeps on coming back. this is the latest in a very long _ keeps on coming back. this is the latest in a very long line - keeps on coming back. this is the latest in a very long line of- keeps on coming back. this is the latest in a very long line of such l latest in a very long line of such incidents, — latest in a very long line of such incidents, to _ latest in a very long line of such incidents, to the _ latest in a very long line of such incidents, to the point - latest in a very long line of such incidents, to the point where i latest in a very long line of suchl incidents, to the point where you 'ust incidents, to the point where you just kind — incidents, to the point where you just kind of— incidents, to the point where you just kind of get _ incidents, to the point where you just kind of get used _ incidents, to the point where you just kind of get used to— incidents, to the point where you just kind of get used to it - incidents, to the point where you just kind of get used to it with i just kind of get used to it with donald — just kind of get used to it with donald trump, _ just kind of get used to it with donald trump, and _ just kind of get used to it with donald trump, and we - just kind of get used to it with donald trump, and we must i just kind of get used to it with. donald trump, and we must be just kind of get used to it with - donald trump, and we must be careful not to— donald trump, and we must be careful not to do— donald trump, and we must be careful not to do that, — donald trump, and we must be careful not to do that, not _ donald trump, and we must be careful not to do that, not to _ donald trump, and we must be careful not to do that, not to normalise - not to do that, not to normalise this behaviour— not to do that, not to normalise this behaviour and _ not to do that, not to normalise this behaviour and this- not to do that, not to normalise this behaviour and this sort- not to do that, not to normalise this behaviour and this sort of. this behaviour and this sort of incident —

this behaviour and this sort of incident in _ this behaviour and this sort of incident in the _ this behaviour and this sort of incident in the behaviour- this behaviour and this sort of incident in the behaviour of. this behaviour and this sort of- incident in the behaviour of someone who is, _ incident in the behaviour of someone who is, as _ incident in the behaviour of someone who is, as you — incident in the behaviour of someone who is. as you say, _ incident in the behaviour of someone who is, as you say, one _ incident in the behaviour of someone who is, as you say, one of— incident in the behaviour of someone who is, as you say, one of the - incident in the behaviour of someone who is, as you say, one of the front. who is, as you say, one of the front runners— who is, as you say, one of the front runners to — who is, as you say, one of the front runners to be — who is, as you say, one of the front runners to be running _ who is, as you say, one of the front runners to be running the _ who is, as you say, one of the front runners to be running the us- who is, as you say, one of the front runners to be running the us again| runners to be running the us again next year~ — runners to be running the us again next year~ i— runners to be running the us again next year. i think _ runners to be running the us again next year. i think where _ runners to be running the us again next year. i think where it - runners to be running the us again next year. i think where it leaves l next year. i think where it leaves him, _ next year. i think where it leaves him from — next year. i think where it leaves him from my— next year. i think where it leaves him, from my perspective, - next year. i think where it leaves him, from my perspective, is- next year. i think where it leaves him, from my perspective, is he| next year. i think where it leaves . him, from my perspective, is he will use this _ him, from my perspective, is he will use this again — him, from my perspective, is he will use this again to _ him, from my perspective, is he will use this again to drum _ him, from my perspective, is he will use this again to drum up _ him, from my perspective, is he will use this again to drum up this - him, from my perspective, is he will use this again to drum up this idea i use this again to drum up this idea of a witchhunt _ use this again to drum up this idea of a witchhunt against _ use this again to drum up this idea of a witchhunt against him, - use this again to drum up this idea of a witchhunt against him, whichl of a witchhunt against him, which seems _ of a witchhunt against him, which seems to— of a witchhunt against him, which seems to work— of a witchhunt against him, which seems to work well— of a witchhunt against him, which seems to work well with - of a witchhunt against him, which seems to work well with his - of a witchhunt against him, which| seems to work well with his base. of a witchhunt against him, which - seems to work well with his base. he is leading _ seems to work well with his base. he is leading in— seems to work well with his base. he is leading in every— seems to work well with his base. he is leading in every poll— seems to work well with his base. he is leading in every poll of— is leading in every poll of republican— is leading in every poll of republican voters - is leading in every poll of republican voters is - is leading in every poll of republican voters is the i is leading in every poll of- republican voters is the most is leading in every poll of— republican voters is the most likely person— republican voters is the most likely person to _ republican voters is the most likely person to win — republican voters is the most likely person to win the _ republican voters is the most likely person to win the candidacy. - person to win the candidacy. however. _ person to win the candidacy. however. you _ person to win the candidacy. however, you would - person to win the candidacy. however, you would have i person to win the candidacy. however, you would have toj person to win the candidacy. - however, you would have to think that. _ however, you would have to think that. should — however, you would have to think that, should he _ however, you would have to think that, should he do _ however, you would have to think that, should he do so, _ however, you would have to think that, should he do so, the - however, you would have to think that, should he do so, the idea i however, you would have to think. that, should he do so, the idea that he could _ that, should he do so, the idea that he could then — that, should he do so, the idea that he could then be _ that, should he do so, the idea that he could then be elected _ that, should he do so, the idea that he could then be elected presidentl he could then be elected president after this— he could then be elected president after this sort— he could then be elected president after this sort of— he could then be elected president after this sort of thing, _ he could then be elected president after this sort of thing, the - he could then be elected president after this sort of thing, the idea i after this sort of thing, the idea that this — after this sort of thing, the idea that this would _ after this sort of thing, the idea that this would poll _ after this sort of thing, the idea that this would poll well - after this sort of thing, the idea that this would poll well with i after this sort of thing, the ideal that this would poll well with the wider— that this would poll well with the wider public _ that this would poll well with the wider public seems _ that this would poll well with the wider public seems much - that this would poll well with the wider public seems much less i that this would poll well with the i wider public seems much less likely to me _ wider public seems much less likely to me it— wider public seems much less likely to me it feels— wider public seems much less likely to me. it feels like _ wider public seems much less likely to me. it feels like for— wider public seems much less likely to me. it feels like for the - to me. it feels like for the democrats, _ to me. it feels like for the democrats, this— to me. it feels like for the democrats, this might - to me. it feels like for the| democrats, this might end to me. it feels like for the - democrats, this might end up being to me. it feels like for the _ democrats, this might end up being a fairly positive — democrats, this might end up being a fairly positive situation. _ democrats, this might end up being a fairly positive situation.— fairly positive situation. miles, how have the _ fairly positive situation. miles, how have the events _ fairly positive situation. miles, how have the events of - fairly positive situation. miles, i how have the events of yesterday affected his popularity?— affected his popularity? well, i thinkjack really _ affected his popularity? well, i thinkjack really nails _ affected his popularity? well, i thinkjack really nails it - affected his popularity? well, i thinkjack really nails it on - affected his popularity? well, i thinkjack really nails it on the | thinkjack really nails it on the head, as jack always does. pointing out that this is very unlikely to move the needle with donald trump's supporters. i'm a lifelong

republican who worked within his administration and i'm still stunned that people can support him. i spent extensive time with him up close and found him to be a very, very unhinged and quite dangerous person. but his supporters, his core supporters still don't see that, so i would expect very little movement in terms of supporters netting behind donald trump. but as jack alluded to, what is significant is trump's opponents might say that he can win the primary but he cannot win the presidency again with this baggage. likely has opponents will use it against him and if donald trump does emerge from the republican primaries, this will be huge ammunition from the democrats to try to convince independent voters, do not give this man another chance. donald trump cannot win the presidency again if he doesn't win the majority of independent voters, and that is where people will try to use it against him. but in the short—term, little impact. so

use it against him. but in the short-term, little impact. so still --oular short-term, little impact. so still popular among — short-term, little impact. so still popular among his _ short-term, little impact. so still popular among his hard-core - popular among his hard—core supporters. what about his female supporters, do they still root for him too? �* . ., ., , supporters, do they still root for himtoo?�* . ., ., , , supporters, do they still root for himtoo?�* . ., ., , .,., him too? anecdotally i spoke to a coule him too? anecdotally i spoke to a couple today- _ him too? anecdotally i spoke to a couple today. one _ him too? anecdotally i spoke to a couple today. one woman - him too? anecdotally i spoke to a couple today. one woman said i him too? anecdotally i spoke to a couple today. one woman said to | him too? anecdotally i spoke to a - couple today. one woman said to me, it doesn't— couple today. one woman said to me, it doesn't bother her, this verdict. she just _ it doesn't bother her, this verdict. she just thinks that his personal life, she just thinks that his personal life. that — she just thinks that his personal life, that is how she turned it, is nothing — life, that is how she turned it, is nothing to— life, that is how she turned it, is nothing to do with what he does as a public— nothing to do with what he does as a public servant. she said it doesn't disqualify— public servant. she said it doesn't disqualify him from running for the presidential nomination. another woman— presidential nomination. another woman said to us that she didn't believe — woman said to us that she didn't believe e — woman said to us that she didn't believe e jean carroll. she said, unfortunately i don't believe her, and that's— unfortunately i don't believe her, and that's based on what i've read. that is— and that's based on what i've read. that is to _ and that's based on what i've read. that is to quote her. remember, of course. _ that is to quote her. remember, of course, before he became president, there _ course, before he became president, there was— course, before he became president, there was the access hollywood tape in which _ there was the access hollywood tape in which he _ there was the access hollywood tape in which he talked about assaulting women _ in which he talked about assaulting women. that got a pass with a lot of women _ women. that got a pass with a lot of women it's— women. that got a pass with a lot of women. it's hard to say, i think it does _ women. it's hard to say, i think it does come — women. it's hard to say, i think it does come down to the independent voters _ does come down to the independent voters. when it comes down to his base. _ voters. when it comes down to his base. and — voters. when it comes down to his base, and we've seen it so many

times. _ base, and we've seen it so many times. and — base, and we've seen it so many times, and our guests know this, it doesn't _ times, and our guests know this, it doesn't make much of a difference, there _ doesn't make much of a difference, there is— doesn't make much of a difference, there is no— doesn't make much of a difference, there is no red line. trump hasjust blown _ there is no red line. trump hasjust blown right— there is no red line. trump hasjust blown right through the invisible barrier— blown right through the invisible barrier in— blown right through the invisible barrier in a way no other candidate has ever— barrier in a way no other candidate has ever done before. decades earlier. — has ever done before. decades earlier, joe biden when he wasn't president— earlier, joe biden when he wasn't president was disqualified from a presidential race because he had plagiarised a few sentences in a speech — plagiarised a few sentences in a speech. and now he is president, he is facing _ speech. and now he is president, he is facing an— speech. and now he is president, he is facing an opponent where it looks like, certainly the polls are suggesting, he's not going to be stopped — suggesting, he's not going to be stopped after being found liable of sexual— stopped after being found liable of sexual abuse. whether or not he gets the female _ sexual abuse. whether or not he gets the female voters, that crucial voting — the female voters, that crucial voting block of suburban female voters _ voting block of suburban female voters on — voting block of suburban female voters on board for the election itself. _ voters on board for the election itself. if— voters on board for the election itself, if he does indeed face joe biden. _ itself, if he does indeed face joe biden, that's a whole other issue. we have _ biden, that's a whole other issue. we have yet to see if those voters care. _ we have yet to see if those voters care. not — we have yet to see if those voters care, notjust about we have yet to see if those voters care, not just about this verdict, but remember there care, not just about this verdict, but rememberthere are care, not just about this verdict, but remember there are loads of other— but remember there are loads of other cases that he is facing. he could _ other cases that he is facing. he could potentially be indicted for

january— could potentially be indicted for january 6th place. a lot of legal woes _ january 6th place. a lot of legal woes heading towards donald trump, we will— woes heading towards donald trump, we will see _ woes heading towards donald trump, we will see if any of them make a difference — we will see if any of them make a difference. we we will see if any of them make a difference-— difference. we talked about his --oulari difference. we talked about his popularity at — difference. we talked about his popularity at home, _ difference. we talked about his popularity at home, what - difference. we talked about his| popularity at home, what about abroad? do the events of yesterday and the ongoing court cases nomia talked about affected international standing? i talked about affected international standinu? ., �* ~' talked about affected international standinu? ., �* ~ , standing? i don't think his international _ standing? i don't think his international standing - standing? i don't think his i international standing could standing? i don't think his - international standing could be standing? i don't think his _ international standing could be much lower— international standing could be much lower than— international standing could be much lower than it — international standing could be much lower than it already— international standing could be much lower than it already was, _ international standing could be much lower than it already was, in - international standing could be much lower than it already was, in all- lower than it already was, in all honesty — lower than it already was, in all honesty the _ lower than it already was, in all honesty. the idea _ lower than it already was, in all honesty. the idea of— lower than it already was, in all honesty. the idea of trump - lower than it already was, in all- honesty. the idea of trump returning to the _ honesty. the idea of trump returning to the presidency— honesty. the idea of trump returning to the presidency would _ honesty. the idea of trump returning to the presidency would be _ honesty. the idea of trump returning to the presidency would be greeted l to the presidency would be greeted with universal— to the presidency would be greeted with universal horror— to the presidency would be greeted with universal horror and _ to the presidency would be greeted with universal horror and dismay i to the presidency would be greeted with universal horror and dismay in| with universal horror and dismay in westminsten — with universal horror and dismay in westminster. he _ with universal horror and dismay in westminster. he has— with universal horror and dismay in westminster. he has very - with universal horror and dismay in westminster. he has very few- with universal horror and dismay in westminster. he has very few if. with universal horror and dismay inl westminster. he has very few if any supporters — westminster. he has very few if any supporters. the _ westminster. he has very few if any supporters. the british— westminster. he has very few if any supporters. the british governmentj supporters. the british government doesn't _ supporters. the british government doesn't really— supporters. the british government doesn't really mind _ supporters. the british government doesn't really mind if— supporters. the british government doesn't really mind if it's _ supporters. the british government doesn't really mind if it's a - doesn't really mind if it's a republican— doesn't really mind if it's a republican or— doesn't really mind if it's a republican or a _ doesn't really mind if it's a republican or a democratl doesn't really mind if it's a i republican or a democrat in doesn't really mind if it's a - republican or a democrat in the white _ republican or a democrat in the white house _ republican or a democrat in the white house but _ republican or a democrat in the white house but they— republican or a democrat in the white house but they certainly. republican or a democrat in the - white house but they certainly want someone _ white house but they certainly want someone who — white house but they certainly want someone who is _ white house but they certainly want someone who is straightforward - white house but they certainly want someone who is straightforward to. someone who is straightforward to deal with. — someone who is straightforward to deal with. who _ someone who is straightforward to deal with, who don't _ someone who is straightforward to deal with, who don't go _ someone who is straightforward to deal with, who don't go off- someone who is straightforward to deal with, who don't go off on - someone who is straightforward to. deal with, who don't go off on these bizarre _ deal with, who don't go off on these bizarre rant — deal with, who don't go off on these bizarre rant back— deal with, who don't go off on these bizarre rant back and _ deal with, who don't go off on these bizarre rant back and sudden- deal with, who don't go off on these bizarre rant back and sudden shiftsi bizarre rant back and sudden shifts of policies — bizarre rant back and sudden shifts of policies and _ bizarre rant back and sudden shifts of policies. and all— bizarre rant back and sudden shifts of policies. and all the _ bizarre rant back and sudden shifts of policies. and all the erratic- of policies. and all the erratic decision—making _ of policies. and all the erratic decision—making we - of policies. and all the erratic decision—making we saw- of policies. and all the erraticl decision—making we saw when of policies. and all the erratic- decision—making we saw when he was in power~ _ decision—making we saw when he was in power~ one — decision—making we saw when he was in power. one more _ decision—making we saw when he was in power. one more charge _ decision—making we saw when he was in power. one more charge added - decision—making we saw when he was in power. one more charge added tol in power. one more charge added to his sheet— in power. one more charge added to his sheet doesn't _ in power. one more charge added to his sheet doesn't really— in power. one more charge added to his sheet doesn't really make - in power. one more charge added to his sheet doesn't really make a - his sheet doesn't really make a great _ his sheet doesn't really make a great deal— his sheet doesn't really make a great deal of _ his sheet doesn't really make a great deal of difference - his sheet doesn't really make a great deal of difference from i his sheet doesn't really make a . great deal of difference from that

point _ great deal of difference from that point of _ great deal of difference from that point of view _ great deal of difference from that point of view-— great deal of difference from that oint of view. �*, ., ., ._ ., point of view. let's move away from donald trump- _ point of view. let's move away from donald trump. we _ point of view. let's move away from donald trump. we will— point of view. let's move away from donald trump. we will stay - point of view. let's move away from donald trump. we will stay with - point of view. let's move away from donald trump. we will stay with the us, and us inflation figures for the month of april showed consumer prices rose at a slower than expected pace of li.9%. that's a small fall of 0.1% compared to the previous month, which will provide some relief to the fed that the central bank is succeeding in its fight against inflation. our north america business correspondent is in new york for us. were these figures expected? new york for us. were these figures exected? ., ., ~' ~' �* new york for us. were these figures exected? ., ., .. .. �* . expected? look, i think we've seen the pattern. — expected? look, i think we've seen the pattern. the — expected? look, i think we've seen the pattern, the direction _ expected? look, i think we've seen the pattern, the direction of- the pattern, the direction of travel, it's been evident for a while. inflation is beginning to slow down. the latest figures confirm that. if anything, it was slightly better than people were expecting in terms of the headline figure, 4.9%, compared to a year ago. to give you some context, at the very peak, inflation was 9.1%,

so we are a long way from that. the problem is there is still further to go to get to the fed's desired level, 2.2%. 50 go to get to the fed's desired level. 2.2%.— go to get to the fed's desired level, 2.2%. ., ' , ., , level, 2.2%. so now 4.9%, how is it affecting consumers, _ level, 2.2%. so now 4.9%, how is it affecting consumers, what - level, 2.296. so now 4.996, how is it affecting consumers, what is - level, 2.296. so now 4.996, how is it affecting consumers, what is the i affecting consumers, what is the cost of living light in the states right now? i cost of living light in the states right now?— right now? i mean, it's still expensive- _ right now? i mean, it's still expensive. -- _ right now? i mean, it's still expensive. -- living - right now? i mean, it's still expensive. -- living like. . right now? i mean, it's still. expensive. -- living like. used right now? i mean, it's still- expensive. -- living like. used car rices expensive. -- living like. used car prices went— expensive. -- living like. used car prices went up— expensive. -- living like. used car prices went up again. _ expensive. -- living like. used car prices went up again. we've - expensive. -- living like. used car prices went up again. we've seen | prices went up again. we've seen food prices. the cost of eating at home, you will be pleased to hear, has gone down slightly. but eating out is still very expensive. when i was talking to economists recently, they said you are starting to see that show up in people's behaviour, how they spend. if you are planning to travel this summer in america and you are booking a plane ticket, you are going to get sticker shock, and thatis are going to get sticker shock, and that is making people slowly rethink some of the decisions they are

making. a lot more pack lunches anecdotally around than we did maybe two or three years ago. so that will feed into slowing down the economy, which is what america's central bank wants. they are trying to lower prices to cool the economy, that has been the intention of the rate hike cycle, and they think at least for now maybe they have done enough. let's put this out to the panel. miles, you are living in the states, how are you finding prices, going out and eating, buying dinnerfor the family? out and eating, buying dinner for the family?— out and eating, buying dinner for the famil ? ~ .. ,., the family? well, i can report right now that the _ the family? well, i can report right now that the cost _ the family? well, i can report right now that the cost of _ the family? well, i can report right now that the cost of a _ the family? well, i can report right now that the cost of a diet - the family? well, i can report right now that the cost of a diet coke - the family? well, i can report right now that the cost of a diet coke isl now that the cost of a diet coke is fine. _ now that the cost of a diet coke is fine. it's— now that the cost of a diet coke is fine, it's normal. but look, bigger picture. _ fine, it's normal. but look, bigger picture. i— fine, it's normal. but look, bigger picture, i don't think americans are feeling _ picture, i don't think americans are feeling the — picture, i don't think americans are feeling the relief yet. yes, the trend — feeling the relief yet. yes, the trend lines are slightly better, but we are _ trend lines are slightly better, but we are by— trend lines are slightly better, but we are by no means out of the woods. when _ we are by no means out of the woods. when you _ we are by no means out of the woods. when you dig — we are by no means out of the woods. when you dig into the numbers further. — when you dig into the numbers further, overall prices are continuing to go up of course, but more _ continuing to go up of course, but more specifically if you talk to business _ more specifically if you talk to business leaders, and i met last night _ business leaders, and i met last

night with— business leaders, and i met last night with a group of american ceos, business _ night with a group of american ceos, business leaders are still expressing a lot of alarm, not optimism _ expressing a lot of alarm, not optimism. and that's notjust because _ optimism. and that's notjust because of inflation, but the ongoing _ because of inflation, but the ongoing uncertainty in the banking sector— ongoing uncertainty in the banking sector is— ongoing uncertainty in the banking sector is making people feel very nervous — sector is making people feel very nervous. the jury is still out with whether— nervous. the jury is still out with whether the us federal reserve has .one whether the us federal reserve has gone too _ whether the us federal reserve has gone too far in raising rates to the point _ gone too far in raising rates to the point it— gone too far in raising rates to the point it is— gone too far in raising rates to the point it is catalysing potential bank— point it is catalysing potential bank failures. the fact that ceos are still— bank failures. the fact that ceos are still alarmed about their investment as a trickle—down effect on what _ investment as a trickle—down effect on what happens next. the projections from a lot of folks are still a _ projections from a lot of folks are still a year— projections from a lot of folks are still a year of nervousness, and politically— still a year of nervousness, and politically that has serious implications. policymakers are worried — implications. policymakers are worried and there was a sense that encumbereds, democrats in power, including _ encumbereds, democrats in power, including joe biden in the white house. — including joe biden in the white house. if— including joe biden in the white house, if trends continue, it doesn't _ house, if trends continue, it doesn't look good for him in 2024. —— incumbents. doesn't look good for him in 2024. -- incumbents.— -- incumbents. jack, i will ask you about the — -- incumbents. jack, i will ask you about the uk _ -- incumbents. jack, i will ask you about the uk in _ -- incumbents. jack, i will ask you about the uk in just _ -- incumbents. jack, i will ask you about the uk in just a _ -- incumbents. jack, i will ask you about the uk in just a minute. - about the uk injust a minute. michelle, another question for you. how are people stealing in their

confidence injoe biden and his ability to manage the economy? itrefoil. ability to manage the economy? well, that depends. — ability to manage the economy? well, that depends. i _ ability to manage the economy? well, that depends, i guess, _ ability to manage the economy? -ii that depends, i guess, which side of the political aisle they are, quite frankly. if you talk to republicans, there is a huge degree of concern about spending. you are seeing that playing out in the debate right now about raising the debt ceiling, with republicans calling on the administration to link any vote on the debt ceiling to cutting spending. they have been hammering him over inflation. at the same time, if you listen to the democrats, they will tout the fact that they have seen extraordinary job growth during their time in office. so it really depends which part of the economy you look for. i think certainly some of their policies coming out of the covid pandemic helped to boost the economy. the problem is maybe it made it a little too red—hot and that contributed to the inflation problem we are now dealing with.

jack, in the uk, the economy is going to be a crucialfactor in deciding who wins the next election here. can you compare and contrast with the us right now? the here. can you compare and contrast with the us right now?— with the us right now? the picture is very similar _ with the us right now? the picture is very similar to _ with the us right now? the picture is very similar to what _ with the us right now? the picture is very similar to what we - with the us right now? the picture is very similar to what we were - is very similar to what we were hearing — is very similar to what we were hearing. inflation— is very similar to what we were hearing. inflation remains- is very similar to what we were - hearing. inflation remains sky—high here _ hearing. inflation remains sky—high here if— hearing. inflation remains sky—high here if you — hearing. inflation remains sky—high here if you talk _ hearing. inflation remains sky—high here. if you talk to _ hearing. inflation remains sky—high here. if you talk to people - hearing. inflation remains sky—high here. if you talk to people out in i here. if you talk to people out in the country. _ here. if you talk to people out in the country, and _ here. if you talk to people out in the country, and our— here. if you talk to people out in the country, and our politicians. the country, and our politicians know _ the country, and our politicians know this — the country, and our politicians know this well— the country, and our politicians know this well because - the country, and our politicians know this well because we - the country, and our politicians know this well because we just| the country, and our politicians- know this well because we just had local elections— know this well because we just had local elections last _ know this well because we just had local elections last week— know this well because we just had local elections last week so - know this well because we just had local elections last week so they i local elections last week so they have _ local elections last week so they have been— local elections last week so they have been pounding _ local elections last week so they have been pounding the - local elections last week so they . have been pounding the doorsteps local elections last week so they - have been pounding the doorsteps of the last— have been pounding the doorsteps of the last few — have been pounding the doorsteps of the last few weeks... _ have been pounding the doorsteps of the last few weeks... talk— have been pounding the doorsteps of the last few weeks... talk to - have been pounding the doorsteps of the last few weeks... talk to them i the last few weeks... talk to them and the _ the last few weeks... talk to them and the message _ the last few weeks... talk to them and the message comes _ the last few weeks... talk to them and the message comes back- the last few weeks... talk to them and the message comes back over| the last few weeks... talk to them - and the message comes back over and over again. _ and the message comes back over and overagain. there— and the message comes back over and overagain. there is— and the message comes back over and over again, there is one _ and the message comes back over and over again, there is one thing - over again, there is one thing people — over again, there is one thing people care _ over again, there is one thing people care about _ over again, there is one thing - people care about overwhelmingly in the uk. _ people care about overwhelmingly in the uk. it's— people care about overwhelmingly in the uk. it's the — people care about overwhelmingly in the uk, it's the cost— people care about overwhelmingly in the uk, it's the cost of— people care about overwhelmingly in the uk, it's the cost of living - people care about overwhelmingly in the uk, it's the cost of living and - the uk, it's the cost of living and the uk, it's the cost of living and the difficulty— the uk, it's the cost of living and the difficulty people _ the uk, it's the cost of living and the difficulty people are - the uk, it's the cost of living and the difficulty people are having l the uk, it's the cost of living and| the difficulty people are having in paying _ the difficulty people are having in paying ordinary— the difficulty people are having in paying ordinary household - the difficulty people are having in paying ordinary household bills. i paying ordinary household bills. energy— paying ordinary household bills. energy bills _ paying ordinary household bills. energy bills and _ paying ordinary household bills. energy bills and shopping - paying ordinary household bills. energy bills and shopping bills i energy bills and shopping bills still sky-high _ energy bills and shopping bills still sky—high and _ energy bills and shopping bills still sky—high and no - energy bills and shopping bills still sky—high and no sign - energy bills and shopping bills still sky—high and no sign of. energy bills and shopping bills . still sky—high and no sign of them coming _ still sky—high and no sign of them coming down _ still sky—high and no sign of them coming down quickly. _ still sky—high and no sign of them coming down quickly. that - still sky—high and no sign of them coming down quickly. that is - coming down quickly. that is squeezing _ coming down quickly. that is squeezing people. _ coming down quickly. that is squeezing people. the - coming down quickly. that is squeezing people. the truth| coming down quickly. that is . squeezing people. the truth is, coming down quickly. that is - squeezing people. the truth is, if the economy— squeezing people. the truth is, if the economy feels _ squeezing people. the truth is, if the economy feels in _ squeezing people. the truth is, if the economy feels in a _ squeezing people. the truth is, if the economy feels in a bad - squeezing people. the truth is, if| the economy feels in a bad place, when _ the economy feels in a bad place, when it— the economy feels in a bad place, when it comes _ the economy feels in a bad place, when it comes to _ the economy feels in a bad place, when it comes to general- the economy feels in a bad place, j when it comes to general election time. _ when it comes to general election time. which — when it comes to general election time. which we _ when it comes to general election time, which we expect _ when it comes to general election time, which we expect next- when it comes to general election time, which we expect next year, | time, which we expect next year, then— time, which we expect next year, then history— time, which we expect next year, then history shows _ time, which we expect next year, then history shows the _ time, which we expect next year, then history shows the governingj then history shows the governing party— then history shows the governing party normally— then history shows the governing party normally get _ then history shows the governing party normally get thrown - then history shows the governing party normally get thrown out. then history shows the governing party normally get thrown out of| party normally get thrown out of power~ _ party normally get thrown out of power~ it — party normally get thrown out of power. it tends— party normally get thrown out of power. it tends to _ party normally get thrown out of power. it tends to be _ party normally get thrown out of power. it tends to be that, - party normally get thrown out ofl power. it tends to be that, rather than _ power. it tends to be that, rather than all— power. it tends to be that, rather than all the — power. it tends to be that, rather than all the various _ power. it tends to be that, rather than all the various political- than all the various political fiascoes _ than all the various political fiascoes we _ than all the various political fiascoes we have _ than all the various political fiascoes we have seen -

than all the various political fiascoes we have seen in. than all the various politicall fiascoes we have seen in the than all the various political- fiascoes we have seen in the uk over the last— fiascoes we have seen in the uk over the last few— fiascoes we have seen in the uk over the last few years, _ fiascoes we have seen in the uk over the last few years, which _ fiascoes we have seen in the uk over the last few years, which will- the last few years, which will probably— the last few years, which will probably do— the last few years, which will probably do for— the last few years, which will probably do for the _ the last few years, which will- probably do for the conservatives if they are _ probably do for the conservatives if they are not — probably do for the conservatives if they are not able _ probably do for the conservatives if they are not able to _ probably do for the conservatives if they are not able to turn _ probably do for the conservatives if they are not able to turn that - they are not able to turn that around — they are not able to turn that around. ,, ., , .. .,,, around. similarities across the world, around. similarities across the world. you _ around. similarities across the world, you suspect. _ around. similarities across the world, you suspect. michelle, | around. similarities across the - world, you suspect. michelle, thank you forjoining us. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. dairy farmer oliver said his business is in serious trouble because his water supply was cut twice in three months. we couldn't clean the milking _ twice in three months. we couldn't clean the milking machine - twice in three months. we couldn't| clean the milking machine properly. so that then causes all sorts of different diseases.— so that then causes all sorts of different diseases. last december, his 'erse different diseases. last december, his iersey cows _ different diseases. last december, his iersey cows got _ different diseases. last december, his jersey cows got so _ different diseases. last december, his jersey cows got so thirsty, - different diseases. last december, his jersey cows got so thirsty, he . his jersey cows got so thirsty, he had to call in hampshire fire and rescue and in february the water troughs ran dry again. the knock—on impact has been severe. oliver said he has had to cull 18 six cows. others are no longer producing milk.

in a statement, southern water said it understood the enormous impact this has had. —— sick cows. it said compensation payment had been paid to oliver's landlord and efforts are under way to have those payments released directly to the family. the big question is whether the money will be enough to put oliver's finances back on an even keel. you are watching the context. on our panel, we have myles taylor and jack blanchard. jack, i know we are talking about lots of things american, and we will continue to do so. we have been talking about migration today, in the uk and in germany, and now in the us as well. the trump policy known as title 42 expires tomorrow. the order was introduced during the covid pandemic and allowed the border authorities to swiftly expel migrants at us [and

borders. without those provisions, they are bracing for a further influx of migrants. let's speak again to myles taylor. the word influx, influx of migrants, it sounds loaded, as part of rhetoric as well. how are people in america feeling about, sorry, the relaxing of border controls?— feeling about, sorry, the relaxing of border controls? well, there is a lot of panic — of border controls? well, there is a lot of panic on _ of border controls? well, there is a lot of panic on both _ of border controls? well, there is a lot of panic on both sides _ of border controls? well, there is a lot of panic on both sides of - of border controls? well, there is a lot of panic on both sides of the - lot of panic on both sides of the aisle, among republicans and democrats. notjust about aisle, among republicans and democrats. not just about the political impact, but a sense that if the united states can't control its own borders, then can other government functions persist? and at the same time, i think it brings into sharp relief how broken the legal system is for immigration in the united states. the reason so many people are trying to come in the back door is because it is so hard to come in the front door. that's also causing exasperation in the immediate period it's the

broader community is really feeling enormous impact. the overwhelming majority of people coming in are innocent civilians who want a better life, but they are brought in by dangerous traffickers, drug cartels, human smugglers and other groups, leading to a spike in violence and drug smuggling across the us southern border. that's another big concern. but at the end of the day, this is something that during the trump administration i saw donald trump administration i saw donald trump try to resolve, in some ways that were immoral and potentially illegal. but you are seeing folks a surprise because the biden administration is resorting to other trump policies to try to address the influx because of a lack of options. that's because ultimately it comes down to the legislature to fix this. the executive branch can't fix the situation at the border because what's really happening is the reason so many people are able to get in is they are exploiting loopholes in the law to claim asylum, when many of them don't qualify for asylum. but at the same

time, it's very difficult for them to come in through legal loops. so it is broken in both ways, and the situation has proven for decades to be quite elusive. when i was in the bush administration, we try to solve it and there was a potential deal which increased security at the border. to give immigration status to people who are already here. that slip through george w bush's fingers and since then america has not been close to a compromise in congress on this. the only silver lining i see is the possibility that this crisis increases the pressure on congress to come to accord. but i'm not going to come to accord. but i'm not going to hold my breath.— to hold my breath. some breaking news. we were _ to hold my breath. some breaking news. we were talking _ to hold my breath. some breaking news. we were talking about - to hold my breath. some breaking| news. we were talking about israel and the gaza strip earlier with our correspondent injerusalem. we have just heard that the un chief has condemned indiscriminate launching of rockets from gaza into israel, saying it violates international humanitarian law. that's according to a un spokesman. now moving on, tv

presenter piers morgan was editor of the daily mirin newspaper in the uk from 1995 to 2004. —— the daily mirror. in the trial against mirror group that started today, the lawyer for prince harry says they have evidence linking mr morgan to phone hacking at the mirror. in an exclusive interview recorded before the start of the trial, he told the bbc he denies any knowledge of unlawful activity. jack blanchard, uk journalist, uk unlawful activity. jack blanchard, ukjournalist, uk editor unlawful activity. jack blanchard, uk journalist, uk editor of politico, what do you make of what piers morgan has had to say? he has alwa s piers morgan has had to say? he has always professed _ piers morgan has had to say? he has always professed his _ piers morgan has had to say? he has always professed his innocence - piers morgan has had to say? he has always professed his innocence on i always professed his innocence on this. _ always professed his innocence on this. since — always professed his innocence on this, since the phone hacking story first emerged back whenever it was, the late _ first emerged back whenever it was, the late 2000s. so it doesn't surprise _ the late 2000s. so it doesn't surprise me that that continues to be his— surprise me that that continues to be his position. but clearly what's being _ be his position. but clearly what's being said — be his position. but clearly what's being said in court today makes this a very— being said in court today makes this a very worrying time for him. he won't _ a very worrying time for him. he won't be — a very worrying time for him. he

won't be happy to see these charges re—emerging now. we don't know whether— re—emerging now. we don't know whether there will be fresh evidence or whats— whether there will be fresh evidence or what's going to happen in that trial over— or what's going to happen in that trial over the next few days that might _ trial over the next few days that might put — trial over the next few days that might put further pressure on him. but i'm _ might put further pressure on him. but i'm sure — might put further pressure on him. but i'm sure he will continue to say that he _ but i'm sure he will continue to say that he knew nothing about it and that he knew nothing about it and that will— that he knew nothing about it and that will be his position until anyone — that will be his position until anyone proves otherwise. 30 that will be his position until anyone proves otherwise. so in terms ofthe anyone proves otherwise. so in terms of the phone — anyone proves otherwise. so in terms of the phone hacking _ anyone proves otherwise. so in terms of the phone hacking itself, _ anyone proves otherwise. so in terms of the phone hacking itself, of- of the phone hacking itself, of course it was something that happened some time ago, but the ramifications are still being felt. prince harry certainly has talked at length about the impact it had on him and his family. what do you think they are hoping to achieve by taking this legal action? thea;r think they are hoping to achieve by taking this legal action?— taking this legal action? they want retribution for _ taking this legal action? they want retribution for what _ taking this legal action? they want retribution for what they _ taking this legal action? they want retribution for what they say - taking this legal action? they want retribution for what they say was i retribution for what they say was done _ retribution for what they say was done to— retribution for what they say was done to them, and you can see and hear— done to them, and you can see and hear from _ done to them, and you can see and hear from the way some of these celebrities— hear from the way some of these celebrities and well— known people talk about the impact that phone hacking — talk about the impact that phone hacking had on them, you can imagine how invasive _ hacking had on them, you can imagine how invasive it was and how soul destroying — how invasive it was and how soul destroying it was to see private

information being published, wondering where it was coming from. you hear— wondering where it was coming from. you hear them talk emotively about how they _ you hear them talk emotively about how they suspected some of their closest _ how they suspected some of their closest friends, because of course you would. — closest friends, because of course you would, because who else was possibly— you would, because who else was possibly passing on this sort of very— possibly passing on this sort of very private information to journalists? you can imagine how much _ journalists? you can imagine how much that— journalists? you can imagine how much that would play on your mind and how— much that would play on your mind and how it — much that would play on your mind and how it could destroy personal relationships. however rich and famous — relationships. however rich and famous you might be, those things are still— famous you might be, those things are still really, really meaningful to you _ are still really, really meaningful to you. they certainly have a strong case in _ to you. they certainly have a strong case in terms of how damaging it was personally. _ case in terms of how damaging it was personally, and that's what you have seen these _ personally, and that's what you have seen these big payouts in cases like this before — seen these big payouts in cases like this before. that doesn't mean that will be _ this before. that doesn't mean that will be the — this before. that doesn't mean that will be the case in this specific case. — will be the case in this specific case. the _ will be the case in this specific case, the trial is ongoing, but in terms _ case, the trial is ongoing, but in terms of— case, the trial is ongoing, but in terms of the impact it has had, that cannot— terms of the impact it has had, that cannot be _ terms of the impact it has had, that cannot be doubted. so i'm sure for many— cannot be doubted. so i'm sure for many people, they want retribution, they want— many people, they want retribution, they want recognition in a court of law, they want recognition in a court of law. but— they want recognition in a court of law, but what these newspapers did was so _ law, but what these newspapers did was so terribly wrong. how law, but what these newspapers did was so terribly wrong.— was so terribly wrong. how much traction does _ was so terribly wrong. how much traction does this _ was so terribly wrong. how much traction does this story _ was so terribly wrong. how much traction does this story get - was so terribly wrong. how much traction does this story get in - was so terribly wrong. how much j traction does this story get in the us? it

traction does this story get in the us? .. ., , , us? it actually gets quite significant _ us? it actually gets quite significant traction. - us? it actually gets quite significant traction. i - us? it actually gets quite significant traction. i will| us? it actually gets quite - significant traction. i will concede to having read prince harry's book spare, and one of the conversations that really helped galvanise here is what jack was just alluding to... notjust the dangers what jack was just alluding to... not just the dangers from what jack was just alluding to... notjust the dangers from a safety standpoint of stones being hacked, but also the pretty severe emotional toll it can take on people. —— phones being hacked. regardless of whether they are a prince or a custodian at a high school. i've had this done to me in a similar way, i've had my private information, my digital device hacked, and it can have a disruptive effect on your life, yourfamily, your professional life. it's a very big deal. his book has shone a spotlight on this problem, but also the deficiencies of the potential responses of the legal system and the political system. lawmakers had very bad options in trying to prevent these type of things from happening. agencies have trouble keeping up on

the law enforcement side, with developments in technology. and what we are seeing is the democratisation of digital intrusions and it's really on the companies... i of digital intrusions and it's really on the companies... i have to sto ou really on the companies... i have to stop you there. _ really on the companies... i have to stop you there, stay _ really on the companies... i have to stop you there, stay with _ really on the companies... i have to stop you there, stay with us, - really on the companies... i have to stop you there, stay with us, you i stop you there, stay with us, you are watching bbc news. hello there. well, it's been a day of sunny spells and some heavy showers. certainly the skies look very dark and threatening here in ashbourne, in derbyshire, with a big shower cloud working across the horizon. and we have seen showers widely across the uk today, but most of the day's thunderstorms have tended to concentrate across east scotland, central and eastern parts of england, as well. now it's been another wet month so far, across parts of southern england, we've already had more than the average for may — that makes it the third consecutive month in a row that's been wetter than normal. and across parts of northern scotland, like the last couple of months, it's been drier than normal across the north of the uk. now during this evening and overnight, the area of low pressure responsible for the showers slips into northern ireland.

so there will be further showers here, some keeping going across western parts of england and wales, but otherwise, most of the day, showers will fade away and we'll have some clear spells overnight. temperatures for most between 6—8 celsius. tomorrow, another showery day — those showers with us straightaway in northern ireland. now elsewhere, you'll manage a bit of morning sunshine before those showers really get going across east scotland, eastern england. once they've developed here during the early afternoon, they'll tend to move inland, leaving some of the biggest downpours later in the afternoon across wales and the midlands, as well. temperatures generally reaching about 15—18 celsius, where we have some sunshine, it won't feel too bad. friday does see some weather changes as this area of high pressure builds into the northwest. this area of low pressure pushes a weather front into eastern areas. so northeasterly winds are changing the wind direction, bringing a lot more in the way of cloud, perhaps more early morning mist patches, as well. the thickest cloud for eastern and central england, thick enough to bring some light outbreaks of rain as

we go through the day. eastern areas, chilly, temperatures around 13—14 celsius — but where we do have some sunshine in the west, temperatures high teens, might even squeeze out of 20 in one or two areas. the weekend — well, we still have that high pressure to start off with, but then for the second half of the weekend, this cold front is going to very gradually push a band of rain into the northwest. so for most of us, saturday's a decent day — could be a few showers around, but most dry with some sunshine, and we could see temperatures reach the low 20s. it's on sunday that more of us will see outbreaks of rain developing, and it'll turn a bit cooler.

hello, you're watching the context on bbc news. a blame game between major insolent makers over the affordability is set to take place later on capitol hill. diabetes is an increasing health concern all around the world. in many countries, of cost of insulin needed to treat the condition is paid for by the government, but not usually in america. representatives from a number of firms have been appearing before the senate to

discuss ways to lower the price of insulin. between them, three of those countries control around 9% of the infantile and market in the united states. it can be expensive. some are estimated to be paying out around $1000 a month for medication. let's speak to george huntley, chief executive of the diabetes leadership council. he's been living with type i diabetes for 40 years. thank you very much forjoining us from indianapolis. how much of an impact does the cost of insulin have on your life and that of other people with diabetes?— your life and that of other people with diabetes? . ~ , ., ., ., with diabetes? thank you for having me. i'm fortunate _ with diabetes? thank you for having me. i'm fortunate because - with diabetes? thank you for having me. i'm fortunate because i- with diabetes? thank you for having me. i'm fortunate because i have i with diabetes? thank you for having me. i'm fortunate because i have a | me. i'm fortunate because i have a good health insurance, but for those who do not, it can be devastating. a

vial of insulin can last... if you need three or four months, that adds up need three or four months, that adds up quite quickly. haifa need three or four months, that adds up quite quickly-— up quite quickly. how did you get to the oint up quite quickly. how did you get to the point where _ up quite quickly. how did you get to the point where insulin _ up quite quickly. how did you get to the point where insulin in the - up quite quickly. how did you get to the point where insulin in the us i up quite quickly. how did you get to the point where insulin in the us is| the point where insulin in the us is one of the highest prices across the developed world? the one of the highest prices across the developed world?— developed world? the skyrocketing ha--ened developed world? the skyrocketing happened after— developed world? the skyrocketing happened after rebates _ developed world? the skyrocketing happened after rebates and - developed world? the skyrocketing happened after rebates and the - developed world? the skyrocketing i happened after rebates and the drug price system. if you look at a vial of insulin, a 350 vial of insulin has nearly $280 or more of rebate in it. so the net price and insurance company is playing is probably $50 or less for that same vial of insulin, but the public is being charged list price, which is in some cases 350 or more. bind charged list price, which is in some cases 350 or more.— cases 350 or more. and the blame came cases 350 or more. and the blame name is cases 350 or more. and the blame game is between _ cases 350 or more. and the blame game is between the _ cases 350 or more. and the blame l game is between the pharmaceutical companies and the people who take it out to the pharmacies, isn't it? those are the ones facing off in the

senate today. ii those are the ones facing off in the senate today-— senate today. if the pharmacy benefit managers _ senate today. if the pharmacy benefit managers that - senate today. if the pharmacy benefit managers that are - senate today. if the pharmacy i benefit managers that are driving this up. the rebates are charging towards the manufacturers for access towards the manufacturers for access to the plan formulary. all of us buy our insurance and each plan has its own formulary as to what drugs will be covered. the benefit managers control that. the top three of them - cvs, control that. the top three of them — cvs, optimum rx and... they have a lot of power in that negotiation. they will charge a rebate for access to that formulary, that marketplace, and the one with the highest rebate wins, which is not the lowest price drug, at the highest rebate, because the pharmacy benefit manager is taking a slice of that rebate and keeping it for their own bottom lines. so the drug company, they just raised the list price, they don't care. and the net price is dropping, but the patient is in

seeing it drop. they're only seeing the list price go up.— the list price go up. let's bring in our panel- _ the list price go up. let's bring in our panel. miles, _ the list price go up. let's bring in our panel. miles, what _ the list price go up. let's bring in i our panel. miles, what interventions need to happen to bring down the cost of insulin or other necessary drugs? it cost of insulin or other necessary dru . s? . , . cost of insulin or other necessary dru . s? . , , ., cost of insulin or other necessary druas? . , , ., ., drugs? it really requires the law of larae drugs? it really requires the law of large number _ drugs? it really requires the law of large number here, _ drugs? it really requires the law of large number here, and _ drugs? it really requires the law of large number here, and that - drugs? it really requires the law of large number here, and that is - large number here, and that is negotiations of big entities to drive — negotiations of big entities to drive the cost down. i'll give you an example that the white house gives _ an example that the white house gives. whenjoe biden took an example that the white house gives. when joe biden took office, the cost _ gives. when joe biden took office, the cost was hundreds of dollars for insulin. _ the cost was hundreds of dollars for insulin. but— the cost was hundreds of dollars for insulin, but those who are on medicare _ insulin, but those who are on medicare in the united states managed to lower that price down to $35. managed to lower that price down to $35 that _ managed to lower that price down to $35 that is— managed to lower that price down to $35. that is a combination as i understand of government negotiation, lower rates for the groups. — negotiation, lower rates for the groups, also some element of subsidy here _ groups, also some element of subsidy here but _ groups, also some element of subsidy here but it— groups, also some element of subsidy here. but it really requires movements in the system and as our other— movements in the system and as our other guests are aware, the difficulty here throughout the health — difficulty here throughout the

health care system is that there is a lot of— health care system is that there is a lot of perverse incentives and market — a lot of perverse incentives and market distortion. you solve the problem — market distortion. you solve the problem in — market distortion. you solve the problem in one place, it gets passed along _ problem in one place, it gets passed along and _ problem in one place, it gets passed along and pops up somewhere else. the ultimate into fact is that it does _ the ultimate into fact is that it does become a massive political issue _ does become a massive political issue it — does become a massive political issue. it has long been here. the debate _ issue. it has long been here. the debate over— issue. it has long been here. the debate over drug prices here in the us drove _ debate over drug prices here in the us drove huge political changes during _ us drove huge political changes during the george w. bush administration, and here we are 20 years— administration, and here we are 20 years after— administration, and here we are 20 years after that, still a big topic of debate — years after that, still a big topic of debate in the us.— years after that, still a big topic of debate in the us. jack, in the uk, the of debate in the us. jack, in the uk. the price — of debate in the us. jack, in the uk, the price of— of debate in the us. jack, in the uk, the price of insulin - of debate in the us. jack, in the uk, the price of insulin isn't - of debate in the us. jack, in the | uk, the price of insulin isn't such a big deal, but diabetes is growing in the us and the uk, isn't it? that's right. we were talking about the similarities— that's right. we were talking about the similarities the _ that's right. we were talking about the similarities the two _ that's right. we were talking about the similarities the two countries i the similarities the two countries are experiencing _ the similarities the two countries are experiencing with _ the similarities the two countries are experiencing with inflation. l the similarities the two countries are experiencing with inflation. i| are experiencing with inflation. i was listening _ are experiencing with inflation. i was listening with _ are experiencing with inflation. i was listening with interest - are experiencing with inflation. ij was listening with interest about the trouble — was listening with interest about the trouble with _ was listening with interest about the trouble with immigration- was listening with interest about the trouble with immigration onl was listening with interest about. the trouble with immigration on the southern _ the trouble with immigration on the southern border— the trouble with immigration on the southern border of— the trouble with immigration on the southern border of the _ the trouble with immigration on the southern border of the us. - the trouble with immigration on the southern border of the us. i- the trouble with immigration on the southern border of the us. i was i southern border of the us. i was thinking — southern border of the us. i was thinking how— southern border of the us. i was thinking how similar— southern border of the us. i was thinking how similar it _ southern border of the us. i was thinking how similar it is- southern border of the us. i was thinking how similar it is today l thinking how similar it is today with— thinking how similar it is today with the — thinking how similar it is today with the debates _ thinking how similar it is today

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forward. we're trying for a cap on the cost of insulin in general commercial plans, self—insured employers plans. we're hoping for a similar cap there. we did not get that done last summer, but you need to cap the cost of insulin for the patientjust to cap the cost of insulin for the patient just to eliminate. to cap the cost of insulin for the patientjust to eliminate. this patientjust to eliminate. this patient should never have to pay the out passing through rebates at point of sale won't solve the insulin problem, it will help other drugs. the process of rebates i was describing effects of rebranding drove in the united states, so it's a really important issue. it's not the silver bullet of insulin. you've got to cap that price and you have to have a mechanism for the uninsured, which we have set the way to many of in the united states. capping it in an insurance plan

itself isn't enough, so you've captive and medicare already. we can hopefully cap it in commercial insurance. we still have to do something for the uninsured who are left out in the cold and that can happen. left out in the cold and that can ha en. . . left out in the cold and that can ha ten, ,, ., , ,, left out in the cold and that can hat-en, ,, ., , ,, , left out in the cold and that can hauen.,, ., , ,, , , ,, happen. small steps, but some steps forward. happen. small steps, but some steps forward- george _ happen. small steps, but some steps forward. george huntley, _ happen. small steps, but some steps forward. george huntley, thank- happen. small steps, but some steps forward. george huntley, thank you i forward. george huntley, thank you very much forjoining us. something completely different. jack and miles are going to stay with us. last night, the first semifinal of the eurovision song contest has been held in liverpool. ten acts qualified for the grand final, including favourite to win sweden and finland, and with the uk hosting the event and behalf of ukraine. with a number of acts performing in the city throughout the week, one of them is former 2016 winter from ukraine to monarch, who caught up

with our presenter earlier. there is so much respect and love for ukraine all around liverpool. exactly, i'm so happy to be back to eurovision, especially to liverpool on behalf of ukraine. you hosted so great, gorgeous. everyone is so friendly, and i see a lot of colour of my country. it's happy for us in this tough moment, and i'm so happy to back with the special world premiere of my album, my new album. it's like when i represent my country in 2016 with the one single 1944, it's of course good to, it's a

responsibility of my country, but in this moment, ifeel much, much more because i represent crimea, ukraine with the war and everything. i'm so happy to be here in this moment. you've come a long way from that amazing eurovision win. how did it feel and what's happened since then? how is it changed her life? it turned upside down after... after i became a winner. i can say that even now, in 2023, i have responsibility to sing in a grand final and even

more, i have a responsibility to be everywhere, to meet byte in... i don't know, george cluny, i can speak with everyone. —— george clooney. the most important thing, i can help my country. i can collect money for charity through my songs, through my music. i can release, i can spread about war and it helps, actually. this has really helped to be heard, to spread about everything. be heard, to spread about everything-— be heard, to spread about eve hina. ., ,, everything. tell me about your favourite this _ everything. tell me about your favourite this year. _ everything. tell me about your favourite this year. who - everything. tell me about your favourite this year. who do - everything. tell me about your| favourite this year. who do you prefer? who do you think is going to win? in

prefer? who do you think is going to win? �* . prefer? who do you think is going to win? �* , ., , ., prefer? who do you think is going to win? �*, ., ,~. win? in the end, it's only one song contest in — win? in the end, it's only one song contest in the _ win? in the end, it's only one song contest in the world. _ win? in the end, it's only one song contest in the world. can you - contest in the world. can you imagine? there is no song contest. it's really something outstanding because you have only three minutes to show yourself, express yourself, to show yourself, express yourself, to show your music, stories, everything. they are all gorgeous. for me, nowadays, it's a second time, it's quite great for me to be here as a winner at the same time. do you think you'll come back for a second time?— do you think you'll come back for a second time? no, never! back with a full album. — second time? no, never! back with a full album, not _ second time? no, never! back with a full album, not only _ second time? no, never! back with a full album, not only with _ second time? no, never! back with a full album, not only with one - second time? no, never! back with a full album, not only with one song. i full album, not only with one song. i'm back with a full album.- i'm back with a full album. jumala the are i'm back with a full album. jumala they are speaking _ i'm back with a full album. jumala they are speaking to _ i'm back with a full album. jumala they are speaking to maryam - i'm back with a full album. jumala - they are speaking to maryam moshiri. i was looking at jack and miles's

faces to work out how keen you both are on your vision. jack, you're a big fan? are on your vision. jack, you're a bi fan? �* ., , are on your vision. jack, you're a bi fan? �* .,, ., are on your vision. jack, you're a bi fan? �* ., , are on your vision. jack, you're a biafan? ,, big fan? i'm obliged to be because politico is a _ big fan? i'm obliged to be because politico is a europe-wide - big fan? i'm obliged to be because politico is a europe-wide news - politico is a europe—wide news operation _ politico is a europe—wide news operation that's— politico is a europe—wide news operation that's keen - politico is a europe—wide news operation that's keen to - politico is a europe—wide news operation that's keen to coverl politico is a europe—wide news - operation that's keen to cover this this weekend _ operation that's keen to cover this this weekend. it _ operation that's keen to cover this this weekend. it is _ operation that's keen to cover this this weekend. it is my— this weekend. it is my responsibility- this weekend. it is my responsibility this - this weekend. it is my. responsibility this week to this weekend. it is my— responsibility this week to brush up on eurovision— responsibility this week to brush up on eurovision and _ responsibility this week to brush up on eurovision and become - responsibility this week to brush up on eurovision and become a - responsibility this week to brush up on eurovision and become a keen i responsibility this week to brush up i on eurovision and become a keen fan, which _ on eurovision and become a keen fan, which i _ on eurovision and become a keen fan, which i will— on eurovision and become a keen fan, which i will be — on eurovision and become a keen fan, which i will be for— on eurovision and become a keen fan, which i will be for one _ on eurovision and become a keen fan, which i will be for one night— on eurovision and become a keen fan, which i will be for one night only- which i will be for one night only exactly. — which i will be for one night only exactly. and _ which i will be for one night only exactly, and then _ which i will be for one night only exactly, and then i'll— which i will be for one night only exactly, and then i'll go - which i will be for one night only exactly, and then i'll go back- which i will be for one night only exactly, and then i'll go back tol which i will be for one night only. exactly, and then i'll go back to my normal life! — exactly, and then i'll go back to my normal life! i— exactly, and then i'll go back to my normal life! i think— exactly, and then i'll go back to my normal life! i think it's _ exactly, and then i'll go back to my normal life! i think it's lovely - normal life! i think it's lovely written's _ normal life! i think it's lovely written's doing _ normal life! i think it's lovely written's doing this. - normal life! i think it's lovely written's doing this. i- normal life! i think it's lovely written's doing this. i think. normal life! i think it's lovely i written's doing this. i think it's hilarious — written's doing this. i think it's hilarious that— written's doing this. i think it's hilarious that it's _ written's doing this. i think it's hilarious that it's shaping - 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will nevertheless be a triumph. as you know, the people that love . will nevertheless be a triumph. as you know, the people that love it| you know, the people that love it really— you know, the people that love it really do — you know, the people that love it really do love _ you know, the people that love it really do love it, _ you know, the people that love it really do love it, and _ you know, the people that love it really do love it, and so - you know, the people that love it really do love it, and so it- you know, the people that love it really do love it, and so it does. really do love it, and so it does bring _ really do love it, and so it does bring a — really do love it, and so it does bring a lot— really do love it, and so it does bring a lot of— really do love it, and so it does bring a lot ofi'oy— really do love it, and so it does bring a lot ofjoy to a _ really do love it, and so it does bring a lot ofjoy to a great - really do love it, and so it does- bring a lot ofjoy to a great number of people _ bring a lot ofjoy to a great number of people who _ bring a lot ofjoy to a great number of people who are _ bring a lot ofjoy to a great number of people who are fans _ bring a lot ofjoy to a great number of people who are fans and - 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on with their evening! as they would've _ on with their evening! as they would've done _ on with their evening! as they would've done anyway. - on with their evening! as they would've done anyway. it’s i on with their evening! as they would've done anyway. it's been talked about _ would've done anyway. it's been talked about every _ would've done anyway. it's been talked about every day - would've done anyway. it's been talked about every day for- would've done anyway. it's been talked about every day for a - would've done anyway. it's been | talked about every day for a very time now. how about you, miles? australia actually gets to enter your vision, so do you fancy america trying tojoin one your vision, so do you fancy america trying to join one year?— trying to 'oin one year? look, i'm 'ust trying to join one year? look, i'm just playing _ trying to join one year? look, i'm just playing catch-up _ trying to join one year? look, i'm just playing catch-up here. - trying to join one year? look, i'm just playing catch-up here. i - trying to join one year? look, i'm just playing catch-up here. i only| just playing catch—up here. i only found _ just playing catch—up here. i only found out — just playing catch—up here. i only found out in the past few minutes that you _ found out in the past few minutes that you eurovision is not an eyeglass _ that you eurovision is not an eyeglass 's company, and apparently is a music— eyeglass 's company, and apparently is a music competition. joking aside. — is a music competition. joking aside. one _ is a music competition. joking aside, one thing i actually find great — aside, one thing i actually find great about it is it's been going on forever. _ great about it is it's been going on forever. and — great about it is it's been going on forever, and people still love it, more _ forever, and people still love it, more and — forever, and people still love it, more and more. i feel like this is the ted — more and more. i feel like this is the ted lasso effect a little bit, the ted lasso effect a little bit, the news — the ted lasso effect a little bit, the newsjust so bad in general. i think— the newsjust so bad in general. i think people are gravitating towards uplifting. _ think people are gravitating towards uplifting, exciting content like this _ uplifting, exciting content like this i— uplifting, exciting content like this. i saw bbc had an article about howjens _ this. i saw bbc had an article about howjens e — this. i saw bbc had an article about howjens e is falling in love with euro—

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imagine an entire lifetime lockdown. this is what all these parrots have survived as pets. this sanctuary has recently been inundated with unwanted, and neglected parrots. will be unwanted, and neglected parrots. will he look at all the leg gleanings, it tells us how old they are. there's an awful lot coming from lockdown, so i do think that perhaps the same problem parrots have happened with dogs and cats, people realise there was a lot of hard work. people realise there was a lot of hard work-— hard work. intelligent, social animals - — hard work. intelligent, social animals - to _ hard work. intelligent, social animals - to thrive, - hard work. intelligent, social animals - to thrive, they - hard work. intelligent, sociall animals - to thrive, they need hard work. intelligent, social- animals - to thrive, they need to animals — to thrive, they need to live in a flock. cost of rocketed to over £100,000 a month to feed the flock —— £1000, so today, people can donate or sponsor a bird. it's also about educating the public. these parrots have found a forever home at

last, with space to spread their wings. you're live with bbc news. now it's time for the panel. you jack blanchard, and miles taylor, former chief of the us department of homeland security and author of the forthcoming book blowback. miles, what would you like to talk about this evening? $5 what would you like to talk about this evening?— this evening? as if we're not already talking _ this evening? as if we're not already talking about - this evening? as if we're not i already talking about enough, i this evening? as if we're not - already talking about enough, i want to talk— already talking about enough, i want to talk about artificial intelligence. i'm going to highlight two stories for you. the first story is that _ two stories for you. the first story is that a _ two stories for you. the first story is that a group of doctors and public— is that a group of doctors and public health experts put out a statement saying they would compare artificial _ statement saying they would compare artificial intelligence to nuclear weapons — artificial intelligence to nuclear weapons in the 1980s and they worry about— weapons in the 1980s and they worry about the _ weapons in the 1980s and they worry about the nature harms to human life. about the nature harms to human life at _ about the nature harms to human life at the —

about the nature harms to human life. at the same time, we had a news _ life. at the same time, we had a news story— life. at the same time, we had a news story this week announced that news story this week announced that new al _ news story this week announced that new ai tools can detect pancreatic cancer. _ new ai tools can detect pancreatic cancer. in — new ai tools can detect pancreatic cancer, in some cases, three years or earlier— cancer, in some cases, three years or earlier than the normal means. i think— or earlier than the normal means. i think we _ or earlier than the normal means. i think we need to have a more balanced conversation on al. some people _ balanced conversation on al. some people say— balanced conversation on al. some people say it's going to end our lives _ people say it's going to end our lives. right now, we see evidence of technology— lives. right now, we see evidence of technology saving lives, and it's time _ technology saving lives, and it's time for— technology saving lives, and it's time for a — technology saving lives, and it's time for a more nuanced discussion. there's— time for a more nuanced discussion. there's a _ time for a more nuanced discussion. there's a lot — time for a more nuanced discussion. there's a lot of worry about how iai is the _ there's a lot of worry about how iai is the terminator, but let's also think— is the terminator, but let's also think about it but having the potential to have r2—d2 and c—3 p0 from _ potential to have r2—d2 and c—3 p0 from star— potential to have r2—d2 and c—3 p0 from star wars. it's not doom and gloom _ from star wars. it's not doom and gloom lt's — from star wars. it's not doom and gloom. it's easy to say the robots are going to steal ourjobs and end the world. — are going to steal ourjobs and end the world, but there is good news coming _ the world, but there is good news coming out — the world, but there is good news coming out and we need to figure out how to _ coming out and we need to figure out how to ride _ coming out and we need to figure out how to ride the wave instead of getting — how to ride the wave instead of getting crushed by the waves. great

stuff. miles. — getting crushed by the waves. great stuff. miles, thank— getting crushed by the waves. great stuff. miles, thank you _ getting crushed by the waves. great stuff. miles, thank you very - getting crushed by the waves. (e—t stuff. miles, thank you very much. i believe jack, you want to talk about something that's quite good news for one family. something that's quite good news for one famil . ~ ,,., , something that's quite good news for onefamil. ~ , �* something that's quite good news for one famil . ~ , �* ., something that's quite good news for one famil . ~ , , �* ., ., one family. absolutely. i've got two kids at home. _ one family. absolutely. i've got two kids at home, one _ one family. absolutely. i've got two kids at home, one of— one family. absolutely. i've got two kids at home, one of whom - one family. absolutely. i've got two kids at home, one of whom is - kids at home, one of whom is one—year—old and of whom is three, and i am a very tired man in my 405. struggling and trying to get through the day. when i read this morning that the great robert de niro has just become a father for the seventh time at the age of 79, it was hard to think of something more... after i pick myjaw off the floor and thought about what that was really like, i quite it —— found it quite an inspiring story. in fact i can do it at 79, and he's got loads of kids, what on earth and i whingeing kid5, what on earth and i whingeing about? i redouble my efforts, made my 19th cup of coffee in the morning and carried on looking after the

kids while trying to do myjob at the same time. he's been expiring u5 the same time. he's been expiring us all our lives, but this might be the creme de la creme for me. haifa creme de la creme for me. how hands-on _ creme de la creme for me. how hands-on do — creme de la creme for me. how hands-on do you _ creme de la creme for me. how hands-on do you think- creme de la creme for me. how hands-on do you think he - creme de la creme for me. how hands—on do you think he is a 79—year—old dad? ii hands-on do you think he is a 79-year-old dad?— hands-on do you think he is a 79-year-old dad? if you can 'ust stay awake. fl 79-year-old dad? if you can 'ust stay awake, then i 79-year-old dad? if you can 'ust stay awake, then i'm * 79-year-old dad? if you can just| stay awake, then i'm impressed. 79-year-old dad? if you can just - stay awake, then i'm impressed. my goodness, it is nonstop! you could have 1 goodness, it is nonstop! you could have1 million nannies and everything else, but it will not be anything but relentless for him. i guess one good thing, one positive is of you get older, you need less sleep. that might play into his hands, perhaps. i sleep. that might play into his hands, perhaps.— sleep. that might play into his. hands, perhaps._ this sleep. that might play into his - hands, perhaps._ this is hands, perhaps. i hope so! this is where the — hands, perhaps. i hope so! this is where the narrator _ hands, perhaps. i hope so! this is where the narrator stepped - hands, perhaps. i hope so! this is where the narrator stepped in - hands, perhaps. i hope so! this is where the narrator stepped in and said. _ where the narrator stepped in and said. and — where the narrator stepped in and said, and thenjack had ten more babies! _ said, and then jack had ten more babies! . said, and then jack had ten more babies! ,, ., ., ., ~ babies! still time. i want to thank ou both babies! still time. i want to thank you both very _ babies! still time. i want to thank you both very much. _ babies! still time. i want to thank you both very much. we've - babies! still time. i want to thank you both very much. we've got i babies! still time. i want to thank i you both very much. we've got jack blanchard, uk editor of politico, and miles taylor, joining us. thank

you very much. great to have you watching us here on the context on bbc news. i'm marc edwards with your sport. only one place to start, and in the champions league. enter malan it are one step away from next month's final. they're on track to beat their rivals in the first leg of the semifinal tie. they were at home this meeting —— evening. there are also two goals and a frantic start. that's how it looks like it will finish with four minutes of stoppage

time now. advantage enter malan 2—0. well, the winner of that tie will face either real madrid or manchester city in the final — after they drew 1—1 on tuesday — but there's been plenty of fallout following the match surrounding haaland. not city's striker erling haaland, but rather his dad who has been making the headlines. he says he was escorted from his seat following city's equaliser at the bernabeu. a video on social media appears to show haaland taunting the home fans before being removed. there had been reports that he had also thrown food at the supporters, but he insists that "isn't true." meanwhile, on thursday,it�*ll be a big night for west ham — as the fans continue to dream of their first silverware since 1980. they take on dutch side az alkmaar in the first leg of their europa conference league semi—final at the london stadium — and their manager david moyes admits he'll put on his dancing shoes if his side go all the way and win it. he said you promised him you would dance if the club were to win. are

you practising a dance in front of the mirrors? i you practising a dance in front of the mirrors?— the mirrors? i don't know about that, the mirrors? i don't know about that. but... _ the mirrors? i don't know about that, but... let's _ the mirrors? i don't know about that, but... let's hope - the mirrors? i don't know about that, but... let's hope there's i the mirrors? i don't know about. that, but... let's hope there's an opportunity— that, but... let's hope there's an opportunity to try and do that. that disco _ opportunity to try and do that. that disco fever— opportunity to try and do that. that disco fever in the back. the championship season only finished two days ago, but watford have already began planning for the new season. they've appointed valerien ismael as their new manager. he replaces chris wilder, who was on a short—term contract until the end of the season after taking over in march, and leading them to an 11th placed finish. the title race in the women's super league continues to edge towards a thrilling finish.( to edge towards a thrilling finish. chelsea's hopes of defending their title are very much alive as they thrashed strugglers leicester 6—0. the win keeps chelsea second — but nowjust a point behind leaders manchester united — with a game in hand. arsenal remain in title contention

after they also enjoyed a big win of their own, beating brighton 4—0. the win moves arsenal up to third, six points off top spot. there could be some significant news for england's women — with the world cup just around the corner. star striker beth mead says she's ahead of schedule in her return from an acl injury suffered last november and is still hopeful of making the tournament. england manager sarina wiegman had said it would be a miracle if mead returned to full fitness, but the arsenal forward says she's feeling ok and back to kicking a ball once again — although admits the final decision on her inclusion will lie with wiegman. the tournament begins on thejune 20th. delhi capitals remain rooted to the bottom of the indian premier league table after a disappointing defeat against the chennai super kings. after choosing to hat,

the super kings were only able to make 167 from their 20 overs helped by some big hitting from ms dhoni. but it proved to be more than enough as the capitals fell 28 runs short of their target. they've won just four of their 11 matches this season, whilst the win for the super kings means they're just one point behind leaders the gujerat titans. there's been another injury setback for tiger woods, as he's been ruled out of the 2023 pga championship with an ankle injury. woods has struggled since a car crash in february 2021 left him with severe leg injuries and played just three competitive events last year. woods will be hoping to recover in time for the next major — the us open — which starts in mid june. stage 5 of the giro d'italia was supposed to be a simple day for the sprinters with a straightforward finish. but a day of rain and slippery roads led to multiple crashes. one of those came just before the finish line after british rider mark cavendish was knocked off—balance and slid his way across. former race leader and world champion remco evenepoel

hit the deck twice, the first time after a stray dog ran into the peloton. evenepoel later gave a thumbs—up to the tv cameras — he's still second overall. and the nfl have announced their european schedule from me and the rest of the team, bye—bye. it's quite tricky trying to plan your day at the moment. by the middle of the afternoon, there were plenty of shower clouds and many skies overhead looked like this, quite threatening at times. if we take a look at the radar from wednesday, quite a widespread rash of showers, and some of these turned quite heavy with rumbles of thunder mixed in there as well. in fact, we're not even halfway through the

month of may, and some counties across england have already seen above average rainfall. the exception, highland scotland, where there's not been that much rain so far this month. a low pressure still dominates the story as we go through thursday. that means for the showers to come. high pressure is trying to build in from the west, and it will do so for the first half of the weekend at least. for thursday, we'll start off with some low cloud around, but largely fine and dry, but not long before the sunshine comes through him we start to see some warmth building and showers turn quite widespread into the afternoon. couple that with some low, grey cloud, temperatures in the far northeast disappointing —10—13 degrees. highest values of 18 or 17 degrees. highest values of 18 or 17 degrees. it'll still feel relatively pleasant. high pressure building in from the west, but this little weather front here is going to produce more cloud coming in off the

north the —— north sea, and we'll see some showers running down through lincolnshire, east anglia, further south and west through the day. west will be best for sunshine, and the warmth on friday. we could see temperatures peaking at around 18, possibly19 see temperatures peaking at around 18, possibly 19 degrees, see temperatures peaking at around 18, possibly19 degrees, but see temperatures peaking at around 18, possibly 19 degrees, but where the low grey cloud continues to roll in, on the highs of around 14 celsius. high pressure than moves into the start of the weekend, not a bad start, but already frontal systems pushing and from the northwest. saturday, not a bad day, but as we go through into next week, the showers are set to return, and it will be just a little bit cooler thanit it will be just a little bit cooler than it should be for this time of year.

tonight at ten: are england's mental health services failing children? we follow the case of one 16—year—old girl with autism. molly has spent months in this small general hospital room — when what she's desperately needed is specialised care. the hospital room is like a small box and you are not allowed to leave and there's phones going off, alarms, children screaming. campaigners say there is a crisis in mental health services for children. also on the programme... prince harry claims his relationship with chelsy davy broke up because of illegal intrusion by tabloid papers into his private life. the unsolved murder of private detective daniel morgan in 1987 — the met police apologise for failing to disclose dozens of documents relating to the case.