live from washington. this is bbc news. welcome to viewers on pbs in america. a day after he was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation in a civil case, donald trump appears on television in a live question and answer session and hits back against the verdict and his accuser this and his accuser is a fake story, made up story. the former president continually repeated his false claims of election interference and said he would consider pardoning some of those convicted for their actions injanuary 6. and republican congressman george santos pleads not guilty to 13 federal charges, and says he'll run for re—election. democrats and even some

republicans have called on him to resign. a day after he was found liable by a new yorkjury for sexual abuse and defamation, donald trump has faced questions in a live town—hall in the us state of new hampshire. the frontrunner for the 2024 republican nomination for the presidency demeaned his accuser, ejean carroll, reiterated his position the 2020 election was rigged, and if he returned to the white house mr trump said would he pardon many of his supporters who have been jailed for taking part in the january the sixth attack on the us capitol. joining me live are hannah muldavin, who was the spokesperson for the house january 6th committee. and bryan lanza, who served as director of communications for mr trump's presidential transition team. it transition team. is great to see you both.

right it is great to see you both. right off the bat i want to ask about what you thought about what you saw.— about what you thought about what ou saw. . . what you saw. hannah? i was the spokesperson _ what you saw. hannah? i was the spokesperson for _ what you saw. hannah? i was the spokesperson for the _ what you saw. hannah? i was the spokesperson for the january - what you saw. hannah? i was the spokesperson for the january 6 i spokesperson for the january 6 select committee where over 1.5 years we interviewed over 1200 witnesses, hundreds of thousands of pages of documents and we came to the conclusion that we should refer donald trump on four cales to the doj, two of which were inciting an insurrection in the second was conspiracy to make a false statement. i think what you saw tonight, one of the first times we have heard from the former president since our investigation where we showed our evidence to the american people is that he is still lying. as you mentioned he said, continuously, that the election was stolen and rigged and he repeated those claims. i had to take notes because there were a few things he said. he said january 6 was an unbelievable and beautiful day and that he would pardon the rioters. he said he does not

owe mike pence an apology, that mike pence should have returned some electoral votes to the states. this is only a few days after four proud boys were convicted by a federal court for seditious conspiracy, a charge that is not lightly brought. so i think when we look at what has happened today, i am look at what has happened today, iam nervous look at what has happened today, i am nervous about our democracy if donald trump is re—elected. we democracy if donald trump is re-elected-— re-elected. we will talk a little more _ re-elected. we will talk a little more about - re-elected. we will talk a little more about january| re-elected. we will talk a | little more about january 6 re-elected. we will talk a - little more about january 6 but i want to get brian's take first of all about the time whole. what did you think? at whole. what did you think? at the end of the day i thought it was a — the end of the day i thought it was a win_ the end of the day i thought it was a win for the president. he went_ was a win for the president. he went on— was a win for the president. he went on a — was a win for the president. he went on a platform nobody thought it would appear on and i thought— thought it would appear on and i thought he handled the host relatively well, the moderator relatively well, the moderator relatively well. he answered questions, factual and unfixable, he showed up and answered questions and away with_ answered questions and away with it — answered questions and away with it with the general view that— with it with the general view that he _ with it with the general view that he continues to be his own individual— that he continues to be his own

individual man and he went to a hostile — individual man and he went to a hostile environment and survived. i suspect that this townhatt— survived. i suspect that this townhall will only make him stronger— townhall will only make him stronger going forward. that is an interesting _ stronger going forward. that is an interesting point. _ stronger going forward. that is an interesting point. now- stronger going forward. that is an interesting point. now let's| an interesting point. now let's get right to what he said. hannah, you were discussing january 6 and he was asked specifically about his role in the attack at the us capitol and this is what he said. what i was asked — and this is what he said. what i was asked to _ and this is what he said. what i was asked to do, _ and this is what he said. what i was asked to do, i _ and this is what he said. what i was asked to do, i was - and this is what he said. what i was asked to do, i was not l i was asked to do, i was not involved very much, i was asked to come in to make a speech, i made a speech and i said walk peacefully and patriotically, among many different things. i bought a list of things, i don't want to bore the audience, but we can go sentence after sentence of things i said things i put out. brian, let's start with you then because we heard earlier from hannah about this but what do you think of those words on january 6? i think voters care about — i do not care about january 6 anymore. it is not a top—10 issue. so a certain segment of voters common

democrat liberal voters other still have folks talking about january 6 but the general conversation of this electorate is that it is europe, the economy and energy security and he is wrong about january 6, it was an assault on the capital but i do want to point out that the four people convicted the other day they were not charged in conspiracy with president trump. everyone was being convicted of conspiracy or sedition, no drum has no connection with these people so there is some level of media overreaction to trumps involved involvement. and this is what we have been investigating. hannah, do you agree that people have forgotten january 6 or have moved past it? i people have forgotten january 6 or have moved past it?- or have moved past it? i think one of the _ or have moved past it? i think one of the most _ or have moved past it? i think one of the most important - or have moved past it? i think. one of the most important parts of our investigation and the witnesses we spoke to was that they were mostly republicans. we had republicans talk to us, sarah matthews is one example.

you play the clip of president trump talking about how he said all these great things on the day and said to be peaceful, she actually left herjob because she did not think he went far enough. it took him until 4:17pm to tell the rioters to go home. we spoke to many rioters who said they would have gone home and did exactly whatever donald trump told them. what happened on january 6 was an atrocity to our country, the fact that he is still talking about there being action is dangerous to our democracy and i think that we cannot let him get near that white house again. he we cannot let him get near that white house again.— white house again. he also discussed _ white house again. he also discussed and _ white house again. he also discussed and was - white house again. he also discussed and was asked i discussed and was asked specifically about the verdict that we saw come in in court yesterday, that sexual abuse verdict and i want to play a clip now of what he said about the case. i clip now of what he said about the case. ., ., ., ., the case. i have no idea who this woman _ the case. i have no idea who this woman is. _ the case. i have no idea who this woman is. this - the case. i have no idea who this woman is. this is - the case. i have no idea who this woman is. this is a - the case. i have no idea who this woman is. this is a fake i this woman is. this is a fake story, — this woman is. this is a fake story. made _ this woman is. this is a fake story. made up— this woman is. this is a fake story, made up story. - this woman is. this is a fake story, made up story. we i this woman is. this is a fake i story, made up story. we had a horrible — story, made up story. we had a horrible clinton— story, made up story. we had a horrible clinton appointed - horrible clinton appointed judge, _ horrible clinton appointed judge, he _

horrible clinton appointed judge, he was— horrible clinton appointed judge, he was horrible - horrible clinton appointed i judge, he was horrible who allowed _ judge, he was horrible who allowed her— judge, he was horrible who allowed her to— judge, he was horrible who allowed her to put- judge, he was horrible who. allowed her to put everything in aitowed _ allowed her to put everything in allowed us _ allowed her to put everything in allowed us to _ allowed her to put everything in allowed us to put - allowed her to put everything in allowed us to put nothing i in allowed us to put nothing in. ~ , . in allowed us to put nothing in-_ - what i in allowed us to put nothing. in._ . what do in. mr president... . what do ou in. mr president... . what do you think _ in. mr president... . what do you think there _ in. mr president... . what do you think there of _ in. mr president... . what do you think there of the - in. mr president... . what do you think there of the formerj you think there of the former president calling this a fake story? i president calling this a fake sto ? ., ., , , , story? i am not surprised. i don't think— story? i am not surprised. i don't think anyone - story? i am not surprised. i don't think anyone would i story? i am not surprised. i- don't think anyone would expect him to say anything different. fake news is something that he coined. i think the american people are tired of this. this is one of many ways he has tied up is one of many ways he has tied up in the courts right now and iam not up in the courts right now and i am not surprised because it is also consistent with the remarks he has made about women over the course of many years. i am tired of this, the american people are tired of it and i don't think anyone is surprised at the remarks he makes tonight.— surprised at the remarks he makes tonight. brian, what do ou makes tonight. brian, what do you think? _ makes tonight. brian, what do you think? you _ makes tonight. brian, what do you think? you got _ makes tonight. brian, what do you think? you got a - makes tonight. brian, what do you think? you got a lot - makes tonight. brian, what do you think? you got a lot of- you think? you got a lot of applause from the people in the crowd when he said you cannot get a fair trial in washington, dc or in new york. he get a fair trial in washington, dc or in new york.— dc or in new york. he is not wronr. dc or in new york. he is not wrong- the _ dc or in new york. he is not wrong. the reality _ dc or in new york. he is not wrong. the reality is - dc or in new york. he is not wrong. the reality is that. dc or in new york. he is not| wrong. the reality is that the judicial— wrong. the reality is that the judicial court system has been corrupt— judicial court system has been corrupt bipartisan politics for

the last— corrupt bipartisan politics for the last ten years will stop and — the last ten years will stop and what you saw in manhattan, festival — and what you saw in manhattan, festival with the manhattan da stretching the law to try and charge — stretching the law to try and charge trump was a stretch and people — charge trump was a stretch and people saw through the but that is example of a partisan court in our— is example of a partisan court in ourjudicial system. and in this— in ourjudicial system. and in this case, _ in ourjudicial system. and in this case, the laws were changed to give e jean carroll the right— changed to give e jean carroll the right to sue president trump _ the right to sue president trump 30 years ago. they litigated it but the reality is new — litigated it but the reality is new york is 90% democrat. there is no _ new york is 90% democrat. there is no way— new york is 90% democrat. there is no way a — new york is 90% democrat. there is no way a republican is going to get— is no way a republican is going to get a — is no way a republican is going to get a fair trial. just like a democrat will not get a fair triat— a democrat will not get a fair trial and _ a democrat will not get a fair trial and some parts of texas. 0ur— trial and some parts of texas. 0ur politics has corrupted our judicial— 0ur politics has corrupted our judicial system so bad that i would — judicial system so bad that i would not be surprised if the attorney— would not be surprised if the attorney general of florida find — attorney general of florida find some way to indict hunter biden— find some way to indict hunter biden for— find some way to indict hunter biden for some of the activities he may or may not have — activities he may or may not have done in florida. that is just— have done in florida. that is just where _ have done in florida. that is just where our politics is today _ just where our politics is toda . . . just where our politics is toda . ., ., , ., today. hannah can i get your take on that? _

today. hannah can i get your take on that? we _ today. hannah can i get your take on that? we heard - today. hannah can i get your- take on that? we heard mention of hunter biden _ take on that? we heard mention of hunter biden and _ take on that? we heard mention of hunter biden and today, - take on that? we heard mention of hunter biden and today, one | of hunter biden and today, one of hunter biden and today, one of donald trump �*s maga republicans now in congress spoke about investigations into hunter biden and what we have seen time and time again is that nothing about hunter biden has any ties tojoe biden or anything that was done on official business and you continuously see and i think this was started by president trump, some of these republicans grasping at straws in conspiracy theories to try and distract from the real issue here which is that much of the investigation that president trump is tied up in now. one of those is the doj has a special counsel for january 6 and we know that mike penn spoke to them so i think, hopefully, and hopefully yesterday was the first sign of justice in many of these investigations, we will continue to see that. so investigations, we will continue to see that. so he was also asked _ continue to see that. so he was also asked about _ continue to see that. so he was also asked about foreign - continue to see that. so he was also asked about foreign policy|

also asked about foreign policy just towards the end of this hour—long town hall and he was asked about the russian president vladimir putin and did not condemn him. let's listen to that clip. [30 did not condemn him. let's listen to that clip.— listen to that clip. do you want ukraine _ listen to that clip. do you want ukraine to - listen to that clip. do you want ukraine to win - listen to that clip. do you want ukraine to win this | listen to that clip. do you - want ukraine to win this war? i want ukraine to win this war? don't think want ukraine to win this war? i don't think in terms of winning and losing. in terms of getting it settled so we stop killing these people. d0 it settled so we stop killing these people.— it settled so we stop killing these people. do you believe that putin — these people. do you believe that putin is _ these people. do you believe that putin is a _ these people. do you believe that putin is a war— these people. do you believe that putin is a war criminal? | that putin is a war criminal? that— that putin is a war criminal? that should not be discussed now it should be discussed later because right now if you say he is a war criminal it will be much more difficult to make a deal to get this thing stopped. make a deal to get this thing sto ed. �* ,, make a deal to get this thing stoned, �* ., make a deal to get this thing stoned. �* ., ., make a deal to get this thing stoned, �* ., ., stopped. bryan, what do you make of that? _ stopped. bryan, what do you make of that? he _ stopped. bryan, what do you make of that? he said - stopped. bryan, what do you make of that? he said he - stopped. bryan, what do you i make of that? he said he would have the war ended in 2a hours. i think he would, oddly enough. he had — i think he would, oddly enough. he had his — i think he would, oddly enough. he had his floors, very much so but i _ he had his floors, very much so but i think— he had his floors, very much so but i think you would resolve this war— but i think you would resolve this war relatively fast. in ukraine _ this war relatively fast. in ukraine you have to realise you have _ ukraine you have to realise you have spent billions of dollars propping up the military conflict in ukraine similar to what — conflict in ukraine similar to what the _ conflict in ukraine similar to what the americans did in

afghanistan so this is a time honoured tradition. at the end of the — honoured tradition. at the end of the day— honoured tradition. at the end of the day in the resolution of the afghanistan in the 80s with russia — the afghanistan in the 80s with russia we did not go in and try to build — russia we did not go in and try to build a _ russia we did not go in and try to build a friendship and that becomes an issue where president trumpjust becomes an issue where president trump just does not see the — president trump just does not see the value of rebuilding ukraine _ see the value of rebuilding ukraine considering how corrupt he feels — ukraine considering how corrupt he feels it— ukraine considering how corrupt he feels it is. the vast majority of american people feel that ukraine is a corrupt country _ feel that ukraine is a corrupt country. so president trump is saying — country. so president trump is saying that it is not a strategic ally for us it is not been — strategic ally for us it is not been allowed in nato because of corruption, what are we doing here? — corruption, what are we doing here? we _ corruption, what are we doing here? we did not care for or six years— here? we did not care for or six years ago when they took crimea, _ six years ago when they took crimea, why now so invested? hannah. — crimea, why now so invested? hannah, yourtake on crimea, why now so invested? hannah, your take on this and how you think people feel about the form of president's position on this war? what are the most concerning _ position on this war? what are the most concerning things - position on this war? what are the most concerning things we just heard from the clip was when pressed, if donald trump thought ukraine should win the war he should —— he could not answer that. that is

frightening. i think that when we look at the difference between donald trump and someone likejoe biden it is the difference between democracy and freedom and i think we should make it very clear that we support ukraine and want ukraine to win the war. this is an issue that will trickle down and has trickled down to other republicans as well. this will be the leader, the nominee for the republicans, the next presidential race, should be held accountable for that an all—american should be very concerned about not only democracy here but democracy abroad if donald trump is at the helm. abroad if donald trump is at the helm-— abroad if donald trump is at the helm. that is all we have time for hannah _ the helm. that is all we have time for hannah and - the helm. that is all we have time for hannah and brian i the helm. that is all we have . time for hannah and brian thank you so much for your insights and helping us break down this town hall session. i'm sure we will have you back on the programme very soon. the controversial congressman george santos has pleaded not guilty to a 13—count federal indictment. the charges against him include money laundering and the theft of public funds. santos turned himself into authorities in new york

earlier in the day. iam going i am going to fight, i am going to fight my battle and i will deliver, i will fight and take care of clearing my name and i look forward to doing that. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. it all started in the mid �*505. i got picked out as a decent goalkeeper. football has and always will be a big part of andrew kiln's life. he is one of the oldest referees in the country. when he was told he had a leaky heart valve that could affect his quality of life, he was more than willing to be the first person in the uk to undergo a new valve replacement procedure. it made me feel a little bit special, really. i've got a new lease of life,

i can go to the gym, in a relaxed state and meet my friends there. this procedure typically takes an hour to an hour and a half to do, the patient does not need to go to itu, they can go home the following day or the day after that. andrew says he is now more determined than ever to keep fit and take care of his brand—new valve. you're live with bbc news. the controversial immigration policy known as title 42 is due to expire on thursday. it was introduced by former president donald trump during the covid pandemic to allow border authorities to swiftly expel migrants at us land borders. now with the title 42 expiring soon, the biden administration is ramping up deportation measures, a major pivot from his campaign positions. the new policy, first reported by cbs news, will disqualify migrants for asylum if they can't prove they previously requested

protection in a third country. the rule will only allow migrants who made an appointment through an app to seek asylum, with the exception of unaccompaied children and migrants who have "exceptionally compelling circumstances." for ineligible migrants who crossed the border, they have to go through a more detailed interview to avoid deportation or even a five—year banishment. migrants who repeatedly cross the border after being deported could face criminal prosecution, or evenjail time. this comes as more than 27,000 migrants are in border patrol custody, despite the agency only having capacity for several thousand. let's break it all down with sophie long in texas. good to see you. what does this latest set of _ good to see you. what does this latest set of policies _ good to see you. what does this latest set of policies mean - good to see you. what does this latest set of policies mean for i latest set of policies mean for migrants trying to come to the united states? as you point out, title as you point out, title 42 as you point out, title 42 will as you point out, title 42 will be lifted midni-ht on thursday.

be lifted midnight on thursday. there will be a new system in place. some people are saying it might be even harsher. i think here in border communities like el paso, there is a huge amount of confusion. people fearing there would be a surge in numbers of people crossing. that is already happening. why? a lot of people deported under title 42 have beenin deported under title 42 have been in mexico on the other side of the border for many months, some of them even years. they are desperate to start their new lives in the united states so i think him places like el paso and other border communities, there is a huge amount of communities concerns and there are rumours and many get there news by word—of—mouth, when there are rumoured changes to policy. i'm in downtown el paso at the moment where many migrants have congregated and are sleeping on the streets, for many months. you can see they are not many people on the ground at the moment. liars being handed out to urge them to go to the nearest centre and hand themselves in.—

nearest centre and hand themselves in. ., ~' ., themselves in. you know, there is still expected _ themselves in. you know, there is still expected to _ themselves in. you know, there is still expected to be _ themselves in. you know, there is still expected to be a - themselves in. you know, there is still expected to be a big - is still expected to be a big influx, surgeon migrants, starting tomorrow after title 42 is expected to be lifted. how are the authorities preparing?— how are the authorities re arina ? ~ how are the authorities --rearina? ~ ., ., preparing? we were given a tour of a centre, what _ preparing? we were given a tour of a centre, what they _ preparing? we were given a tour of a centre, what they call - preparing? we were given a tour of a centre, what they call the i of a centre, what they call the welcome centre a bit earlier today and el paso. taking several measures. we spoke to the mayor of el paso who says he's been in touch with the white house and federal authorities two or three times today and he says they are ready. what they don't know is what will happen. what they do know is that people will continue to come so several measures are in place, they have thousands of federal agents who are here to help support the efforts. they have better transportation systems, buses to airports, to help people to enter and they say they are doing everything they can to prepare for whatever happens next.— happens next. sophie long reporting _ happens next. sophie long reporting from _ happens next. sophie long reporting from el— happens next. sophie long reporting from el paso. - and staying with that

story — earlier i spoke with the democratic senator of colorado, senator michael bennett earlier today, let's have a look. senator, thank you forjoining us. title 42 is set to expire tomorrow. is it the right time tomorrow. is it the right time to lift this policy? i tomorrow. is it the right time to lift this policy?— to lift this policy? i don't think we _ to lift this policy? i don't think we should - to lift this policy? i don't think we should be - to lift this policy? i don't| think we should be lifting to lift this policy? i don't i think we should be lifting it now another said that for months and months. i did the biden administration has had an adequate plan to assure the american people that our border is secure. and they have a right to make sure the border of the united states is secure. in fairness, there is a set of issues that predates this administration. i think it would be really useful for democrats and republicans to come together to support the administration in their efforts to try and secure the border but is not the right time to the policy because we don't have an adequate plan. what should the — have an adequate plan. what should the biden _ have an adequate plan. what should the biden administration do, what plan should be in place? abs. do, what plan should be in lace? �* , . do, what plan should be in lace? . ,., , do, what plan should be in lace? . , ., place? a plan in place should be one that _ place? a plan in place should be one that meets _ place? a plan in place should be one that meets the - place? a plan in place should be one that meets the needs| place? a plan in place should i be one that meets the needs of this country when it comes to

immigration. in 2013, i was part of the gang of eight read the immigration bill that passed the senate with 68 votes. that will add a pathway to citizenship for the 11 million people undocumented and the most progressive act ever written, it dealt with the serious issue that we are facing right now i'm not having enough agricultural workers in the united states of america and also $40 billion on border security. the biden administration can't do all of that on their own. i need congress to help them do that. i hope, instead of trying to score political points, we are actually going to come together to try to develop something that looks a lot like the plan we passed. that looks a lot like the plan we passed-— that looks a lot like the plan we assed. ~' , _, we passed. think they will come to . ether. we passed. think they will come together- is _ we passed. think they will come together. is there _ we passed. think they will come together. is there room - we passed. think they will come together. is there room right i together. is there room right now with the current senate for a compromise on immigration? it's very difficult. there are people who would rather try to pounded on immigration and solve the issue. we need to

solve the issue. we need to solve this. if you look at the history of the united states, the last 150 years or so, every year we have had 3% gdp growth on average. insomnia is higher, some years, lower. a two—thirds of that has been organic. a third of that is separation so unless we want to cut off the kind of economic growth with historically had, we need to fix our immigration problem. unless you want to have our farms and ranches move south of the border to mexico, we need to fix our immigration system unless we are prepared to say the people who came here, the dreamers, that they will be forever in an abyss. we need to fix it we need to fix it when it comes to actually securing the border that we have with mexico. we had to do a better job. i mexico. we had to do a better 'ob. ., ., ., ., ., job. i want to move onto the debt limit — job. i want to move onto the debt limit negotiations - job. i want to move onto the| debt limit negotiations which are important as well. you said speaker mccarthy is holding economy hostage. there was no

progress made in the meeting congressional leaders had with president biden. there is going to have to be a compromise. what concessions do you think democrats, the biden administration should make when it comes to spending? what administration should make when it comes to spending?— it comes to spending? what i would ask — it comes to spending? what i would ask is _ it comes to spending? what i would ask is for _ it comes to spending? what i would ask is for people, i it comes to spending? what i j would ask is for people, after this deal is cut, because there will be some deal cut. i think there will be. in the end, i think there will be. i hope people make a judgement about whether it was worth threatening united states this deal. i hope people will ask whether it was worth having pupils interest rates, their car payment rates, what they are paying for their student loans, the risk of all that going up. and you asked the question, in a very important way which is what should the concession be to the republican party on debt. there is the question i had. why a guy like kevin mccarthy who has supported tax cuts for the rich, who supported, which you

didn't pay for, who blew up the deficit with george bush, every president from george bush to donald trump. now has standing to say is going to write the physical rules in this country. that's part of problem we have here. it's not about fiscal responsibility, it's about fiscal irresponsibility and the inability of kevin mccarthy and that wing of the republican party to understand the damage they are doing. i party to understand the damage they are doing-— they are doing. i was asking what concessions _ they are doing. i was asking | what concessions democrats might have to make. what do you think this deal will have? i’m think this deal will have? i'm not sure- _ think this deal will have? i'm not sure. we _ think this deal will have? in not sure. we should not be threatening to destroy the full faith and credit of the united states. we shouldn't be doing it. identicalwe states. we shouldn't be doing it. identical we should capitulate about. i don't think should give into that, especially when the people who are doing it are indefinite spend and deficit spend and definite expect deficit spend, just to give the richest people

in america tax cuts. american people can use some help on what kevin mccarthy and his crew are suggesting is just going to make lives more difficult. �* . . difficult. artificial intelligence, i difficult. artificial intelligence, you| difficult. artificial i intelligence, you been difficult. artificial _ intelligence, you been talking about a lot. the capability of technologies like chatgpt has raised concerns among lawmakers and tax experts. what action should congress take? i don't think we should _ should congress take? i don't think we should take - should congress take? i don't think we should take an - think we should take an immediate action. i don't. 0ne immediate action. i don't. one thing we shouldn't do is panic. good and bad with artificial intelligence. two things we could do would be to follow a recommendation that was made by eric schmidt to set up a task force so that the united states and the federal government can determine whether as we adopt ai, we are doing it consistent with our civil liberties, consistent with civil rights, consistent with civil rights, consistent with civil rights, consistent with commitment to privacy. more important than that, we need to create a new federal agency in washington like the fda, like the fcc, to regulate the biggest tech

companies in america which have gone completely unregulated to this point and ai is going to be a big part of the discussion.- be a big part of the discussion. ., , , ., ., discussion. last question on this. discussion. last question on this- we _ discussion. last question on this. we spoke _ discussion. last question on this. we spoke to _ discussion. last question on this. we spoke to the - discussion. last question on i this. we spoke to the godfather of ai, jeffrey hinton, who spoke about the dangers of inns like authoritarian leaders using ai in the runway china developing this style technology even if it's regulated here.- technology even if it's regulated here. technology even if it's reaulated here. ~ ., ~ ., regulated here. what think of that? i regulated here. what think of that? l think _ regulated here. what think of that? l think we _ regulated here. what think of that? i think we are _ regulated here. what think of that? i think we are in - regulated here. what think of that? i think we are in an i that? i think we are in an competition with authoritarianism and there is, you know, we said, american politicians and the democratic party for many years said the internet is going to democratise china. the internet is going to create a liberal society in china and of course, the opposite has happened. they've used the internet to secure their totalitarian state in ways george orwell could never have imagined and the stuff they've already used which you couldn't have imagined, i telecommunications equipment, they put in place to be able to see whether people not just be able to see whether people notjust in beijing but in

africa are having a bad day. when you put ai africa are having a bad day. when you put al on top of that, totalitarian, in human history, has never seen the cup of capability that xijinping has never seen the cup of capability that xi jinping and putin are going to have at their disposal. it should be a real worry. their disposal. it should be a realworry. 0ur their disposal. it should be a real worry. 0ur concern worrying about that should be making sure that we are using ai in a way that is consistent with our fundamental values. thank you so much for the conversation. that is our show. we will be back next hour with another look at the town hall session with the former president donald trump on the front one of the 2024 republican nomination for the presidency repeated his line that the 2020 election was rigged. he also said if he returns to the white house he would pardon some of his supporters who took part in the january six attack on the capital. it was also asked about the sexual abuse case in new york, he said it was make a

story and he never met his accuser. that is our show, thank you for watching bbc news. her babar bambang marmont bambang it's quite tricky trying to plan your day ahead bambang with the weather at the moment. take, for example, wednesday morning, glorious start in st albans in hertfordshire. but by the middle of the afternoon there were plenty of shower clouds, and many skies overhead look like this, quite threatening at times. in fact, if we take a look at the radar from wednesday, there were quite a widespread bunch of showers that moved in from the west, and some of these turned quite heavy with rumbles of thunder mixed in there as well. in fact, we're not even halfway through the month of may and some counties across england have already seen above average rainfall. the exception, highland scotland, where there's not been that much rain so far this month. but low pressure still dominates the story as we go through thursday. that means further showers to come. high pressure is trying

to build in from the west and it will do so for the first half of the weekend at least. so, for thursday we'll start off with some low cloud around, but largely fine and dry. but it won't be long before the sunshine comes through and we start to see some warmth building and showers turn quite widespread into the afternoon once again. couple that with some low grey cloud temperatures in the far north and east of scotland, disappointing 10—13 degrees. highest values, perhaps around 17 or 18 degrees. dodge the showers. and showers turn quite widespread into the afternoon once again. couple that with some low grey cloud temperatures in the far north and east of scotland, disappointing 10—13 degrees. highest values, perhaps around 17 or 18 degrees. dodge the showers. keep the sun. it'll feel relatively pleasant. now, high pressure is building in from the west. but to complicate the story, this little weather front here is going to produce more cloud coming in off the north sea with a cool northeasterly breeze. and we'll see some showers running down through lincolnshire, east anglia, further south and west through the day. so west will be best for the sunshine and the warmth. on friday, we could see temperatures peaking at around

18, possibly 19 degrees. but where that low gray cloud continues to roll in off the north sea, only highs of around 14 celsius. the high pressure then moves in for the start of the weekend. not a bad start, but already frontal systems pushing in from the northwest will start to bring a change from sunday onwards. so saturday, not a bad day and feeling pleasantly warm. but as we go through into next week, the showers are set to return and it will be just a little bit cooler than it should be for this time of year.

from new aia to cooperation with apple, google reveals plans. disney's newly returned's strides in returning extremely business back to prophet, saying we are on the right path. hi there, welcome to asia business report, with me, mariko 0i. google has announced it is rolling out ai mariko 0i. google has announced it is rolling out al to its cause search at its annual developer conference at silicon valley. the move comes after

microsoft incorporated chatgpt