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this is bbc news, the headlines... the prime minister of bangladesh gives a rare interview, telling me the one million rohingya who fled there from myanmar should be returned. the un and with other organisations, they should take care of it. that is, in their own country, they are safe. it is their duty to do it, not ours. its site was once considered a challenger to traditional media, but now the company behind vice news files for bankrupty in the us. and members of nigeria's lgbt community speak out after being targeted by criminal gangs on dating apps. welcome back.
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we return now to bangladesh, and our exclusive interview with the country's prime minister, sheikh hasina. earlier, we spoke to her about the fate of the rohingyas currently living in a vast refugee camp on the bangladeshi coastline having fled. but what of the rest of the country? there are elections due injust over six months, with prime minister hasina expected to run again. she was re—elected for a record third term in 2018, and has presided over a period in which bangladesh has seen record economic growth, with millions taken out of poverty. it's also seen the launch of innovative approaches to tackle climate change. but there's also increased concern about allegations of human rights abuses. i sat down with sheikh hasina last week to discuss some of these issues. i mean, your country has been described as a "flawed muslim democracy". and then, there are those who say it's sliding into autocracy under your rule. what went wrong? how could you say "autocracy"?
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in my whole life, i struggle for democracy. and our party, bangladesh awami league, we established democracy in this country. and before that, i told you that we had military rule for 21 years, and then again, military—backed government for another eight years — that was altogether 29 years, out of 50 years. so only this time, these 14 years, we had a true democratic system and stability, and therefore, we could make progress. why then does the un human rights chief raise concerns about allegations of extrajudicial killings, forced disappearances, torture, cracking down on the press? i don't know. but actually, the allegation they brought, but they couldn't prove it that much.
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well, some group, they mentioned a big number. then when we inquire, it was perhaps 5—6 persons. but sometimes people themselves, they hide... actually, some some people hide themselves because of different issues. but extrajudicial killing, we never support. and in our country, i think, i don't know any other country, they have these rules — but in our country, the law is there. if there is anything doing wrong by our law enforcement agency, immediately we bought the book, and they they go for justice. so any organisation, if they have done any misdeed, immediately they get punishment. why did the us impose sanctions then on one
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of your paramilitary organisations? that paramilitary organisation was set up by the us, actually, with their advice, it was established in 2004 and all the training, equipment, everything provided by us. _by —— by the us. and i feel that the way they trained them, now they are acting in such a way. and why put they sanctions, it is really a big question to me. what do you think it is? what do you think the reason for it is? i don't know. maybe they don't want me to continue all the progress we are making for bangladesh. they may not accept it, orsomething... this is my feeling, because you see —
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at one stage, terrorism become a big problem for every country, and in our country, we control terrorism. and we had only one incident after that, no incidents took place. so our law enforcement agencies were working very hard to keep control and also make the progress. i mean, the accusations — i want to pick up on a few things that you said, but the accusations are that before the sanctions in 2018 — this is while you're in power — there were 466 people who were killed by the security forces. in 2019, 388 people killed. in 2020, 188 people killed. then when the sanctions were implemented, it went down to 15. listen — the number they mentioned, they couldn't prove it. mostly it was not that they were, you know,
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killed by their law enforcement agencies, or — because we wanted the evidences to send us. we will look into it. i mean, there are two whistle—blowers from the paramilitary organisation as part of a documentary that was done by dw, who said that the orders come at the highest level, meaning you, kill some of these people. this was a documentary that was done by a german organisation. well, how they made these orders, i don't know. but what is happening in america, you can see. almost every day, even in a school or shopping mall, or restaurants, people are enjoying killing, even the schoolchildren. then other common people being killed by either law enforcement agencies or the killers.
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i think you should look into that, that in their country, what is the situation? this is the children's lives. they are not taking care of that, their own people. but the allegation they brought, or the number they said, we asked them that to give us the evidence. they couldn't place that. and yet they're not lifting the sanctions. well, sanctions and counter—sanctions — this is some kind of game. it is still not clear to me why they put sanctions to our country. i can tell you one thing — look, look at me. my whole family was assassinated. my father, he was the president of the country. then my mother, my three brothers. the younger one was
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only ten years old. my two sisters—in—law, all 18 members. those killers, they got indemnity. that means you cannot punish them. i had no right to ask forjustice. i couldn't file any case against that. that time, they didn't put any sanction. there is still one killer, he took shelter in america. time and again, i'm asking or requesting the government or the president directly, i send a letter to them. why do you think they're not listening? i don't know. i mean, this is you've raised this in parliament, as well, this idea that they want regime change. do you have evidence around that? because you're raising this concern again now.
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well, that is the big question, that why they put this sanction. when the law enforcement agencies is working to control the terrorism. and attacking the violator of human lives. but why they supporting the violators, not the victim or not the people? amnesty international, human rights watch, the un have all expressed concern. i know, all 12 together, they... i mean, bless this, but they couldn't prove. are they lying? i don't know the international game. why would they want to remove you? well, they killed my father. those who killed ourfamily, even our my ten—year—old brother, perhaps those killers or conspirators never wanted that anybody from that family should come to power.
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and then, when the military ruler ruled the country, that time, not only ruled the country, they killed so many people — you know, our army, police, even our party. thousands of people have been killed. so that time, we never saw any sanctions. so this is the question also, from me to the international community, that why they were so blind that time? they never put any sanction to the military dictator or the people, those who killed — even in broad daylight, there was an attack on me and 22 members of my party been killed, and nearly 700 people have been wounded. that time, i didn't
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saw any sanctions. but the feeling is that the paramilitary organisation ordered the killings ofjournalists, opposition leaders and dissidents, activists. i mean, there's here — the observer says earlier this year that the police are accused of a coordinated campaign of violence against the opposition. officers have fired on peaceful protests... listen, i was in opposition. i know the ruling party, how they tortured us. we have no right to hold any meeting. but are you saying that at least 20,000 cases have been filed against these supporters of the opposition, the bnp? more than 7,000 members and activists have been arrested. 1,000 people detained — is that what they did? they killed people. they threw molotov cocktail. they set fire in the public bus. about 3,800 public buses been burned out with passengers. they killed common people.
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in trains or private cars — they killed people. so what to do? will you not file a case against them? not only that, they attack. our public meeting or they attack common people. well, that is their movement, they said it is their movement. they kill people, so what to do? so you detained them. and anyone who has been a supporter of the opposition. no, not it is not that supporter. they are the killers. they torture people, they kill people. that's why they got this punishment. all the corrupt... i don't understand why all those organisations do not see what crime they have done.
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so enter next the home secretary, saying they need to fall. albeit not before two protesters from the campaign group extinction rebellion found themselves escorted out for heckling. anyone else? we need to get overall immigration numbers down. and we mustn't forget how to do things for ourselves. there is no good reason why we can't train up enough truck drivers, butchers, fruit pickers, builders or welders. and it is not xenophobic to say that mass and rapid migration is unsustainable in terms of housing supply, public services, or community relations. net migration is the number of people coming here minus those leaving. for years conservative government promised to get it below 100,000 a year, but they failed.
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the number did plummet during the pandemic, but has since rocketed. the challenge is this. loads of employers, not least in farming, are struggling to recruit, that is partly because unemployment is very low, so some say they need to hire immigrants to help keep their business is going. there are simply not enough people unemployed to do the number ofjobs that are available within the sector right now. so that means immigration? that is the logical conclusion? it certainly does. last year, to put it into context, we waited £16 million worth of fruit and vegetables. —— we wasted £60 million worth. are we going to have a realistic immigration policy here whereby we look upon our comity and what it needs and what the people of this country needs? there are not enough people to do this job. and listen to this, the labour leader exasperated as what he sees is the government commentated on its own failure. suella braverman, the home
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secretary, is today making a speech about what she thinks ought to happen on immigration. she is the home secretary. they have been in power for 13 years. if you are in the job, it is yourjob to do it. she is all talk and that is a major party problem. who should be able to walk our streets? expect plenty of debate in the next few weeks about immigration as we also see the return of some conservative jitters about how they and the prime minister are doing. and on that score, one critic of rishi sunak described him to me today as a "reverse firework" — that was not meant as a compliment. there are some who fear he lacks inefficient ways and sparkle to excite the electorate. those around him say he has brought stability to the government and they point to opinion polls which suggest he is more popular than the party. what then about immigration? there is a debate within the government about what the right level is. how high is too high?
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but there is also something else going on here and it is this. one of the consequences of brexit is that policy for immigration lie squarely here and governments and oppositions can no longer blame anyone else like the european union for the numbers, it is down to them. they have to design a policy and then be held to account for it. the company behind the news website vice has filed for bankruptcy in the united states. vice media group was valued at nearly $6 billion in 2017, but it's struggled to make a profit in recent years, and its plans to go public failed. its youth—focused content was once seen as a major challenge to traditional media brands. benjamin mullen is a media reporter for the new york times, and he gave me his reaction to the news. i think fundamentally, a lot of media companies were anxious that their old way of doing things — traditional television, traditional newspapers — were going out of date and they were going out of business, frankly, and vice offered them an alternative to those
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declining business models. and that's why a lot of them decided to invest. and it's had multiple lives in different formats, you know, they've done different deals — whether it was in the middle east or in the united states, of course there was vice news tonight, i think it was called, on hbo. there were hundreds of millions of dollars invested into the company. yeah, one of the really interesting things about vice, it's had so many different lives. it started out as a punk magazine in montreal, and then changed a little bit to become a digital media brand with a tv channel. then i would say it's most recent iteration is this sprawling global company with offices all over the world, so it's really reinvented itself over the course of several decades. and now we're here, where it's filed for bankruptcy — just tell us what that means. so what's happening is what's
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called a bankruptcy sale — so the company has filed for bankruptcy, it's running a 363 process, which basically means the company has a stalking horse bidder, so the company has agreed to acquire vice for $225 million, which is quite haircut compared you're watching bbc news. members of the lgbt community in nigeria have told the bbc about becoming targets for criminal gangs on dating apps, a crime known as kito. nigeria has some of the strictest anti homosexuality laws in africa, with victims falling into the traps of blackmailers who gain their trust by posing online as lgbt people — only to extort them. bbc africa eye gained exclusive access into a civil defence unit hunting down suspected blackmailers. ian wafula reports from lagos. this is a covert operation on the hunt to catch a criminal.
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i want you guys to just keep your eyes on the ground. on one end of the phone, a suspected blackmailer on the other. a civil defence unit committed to catching him. for months, i've been investigating a form of blackmail that has become so prevalent in nigeria that it's got its own name — kito. when the country passed strict anti—homosexuality laws in 2014, many lgbt people went online to connect with others, hoping to avoid prosecution and violent attacks. but as the community went digital, so did the criminals. 0k. all over nigeria, lgbt people are being targeted by violent gangs who lure them as potential dates, only to kidnap, beat, and extort them. we have protected the identity of some of these victims for their safety.
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there's this guy, we'd been chatting for some time, so dating him, i said, "ok, let me visit". when he came in, he came with three other guys. they made a video of me, like they said, "what's the name of the school you attend? where are you from? what's the name of your parents?" they were telling me that they will kill me if i don't bring the money. while victims of kito have told me that the police are sometimes complicit in the crime, i have been speaking to members of law enforcement helping to fight back. for me, there is nobody that is above the law in the country. blackmailing is a very bad offence. what this officer is doing is legal. but we've agreed to withhold his identity wherever they are. i want to tell them there is no hiding place for a blackmailer in nigeria. this civil defence officer walks
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with a team of activists who pose online as lgbt dates, turning the tables on the blackmailers. once the target has agreed to meet the activists, call on the civil defence unit to arrest the suspect. today, i'mjoining one of the operations. this maroon car is the one that the victim is in. and then, the security officers are in a different cars. it's my hope that we can get to see an actual arrest of a kito—rist, and how it turns out. the suspect and the bait head into the mall. he's fallen straight into the trap. positioned outside in the blue vehicle is a civil defence unit ready to pounce. while today's operation might have ended in success for the unit, lgbt people across nigeria have told me that despite these efforts, they are still feeling unsafe. the police did not respond to the bbc�*s request for comment.
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ian wafula, bbc news, lagos. if you want to hear more on that story, you can find the full film on the bbc news africa youtube page, just search for kito: blackmailing lgbt nigeria. let's get some of stories in the world now. she begged him to help and her life. janice hunter, who was 74 and had cancer, died in december 2021 at home. her 75—year—old husband, david, denies murder. his lawyers say her death was assisted suicide. exams are getting fully under way for most pupils in england, wales and northern ireland. england's exams regulator says the disruption caused by covid will be taken into account. the regulator, 0fqual, says covid cast a long shadow and student should be able to get the same grade they would've
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done. and what's thought to be a world first, driverless buses have entered service in edinburgh. the operator tonic stage coach says the buses have capacity for around 10,000 passengers a week. despite being driverless, two members of staff will still be on board to monitor technology and assist passengers. that's it from me and the team, onto the weather with sabrina. hello there. last week was pretty lively weather—wise — we saw some frequent thundery downpours in places. but this week is looking much quieter weather—wise. we will see those temperatures go up a little bit day upon day — and actually for most of us, not really much in the way of rain in the forecast. today then, it has been on the chillier side, that's because we've got this northwesterly breeze feeding in. and for most, it was a case of some sunny spells and patchy cloud, more scenes like these to come in the coming days. so through the course of tonight, then, i think most of those daytime showers will tend to fade away, leaving large parts of the country
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with some drier, clearer conditions. the only real exception being parts of scotland, where we'll see a bit more cloud and some showery outbreaks of rain. it'll be a chilly one under those clear skies, too, overnight lows, typically around 3—6 celsius across the board, setting us up with a chilly start to the day tomorrow morning, but for many, it does mean it's sunshine from the word go. so through the day we'll expect to see some patchy cloud bubble up and spread out. a few scattered showers developing, too — i think these probably more frequent across parts of scotland, northern england, and a few into northern ireland, too. and those temperatures responding in the sunshine, getting up to around 17—18 celsius in a few places. now, by the time we get to wednesday, we expect this broad area of high pressure to be with us — as you can see, not many isobars on those charts, indicating some lighter winds. so we do expect to see more persistent rain gradually spreading its way into parts of scotland. meanwhile, further south, a few scattered showers developing, i think most of these focused across parts of northern england,
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getting into the midlands, south east england, and east anglia. away from that, more in the way of some sunny spells and patchy cloud, and temperatures getting up into the mid—to—high teens in places. looking further out, then, by the time we get to thursday, we've got some milder air filtering in from the atlantic, and that does mean those temperatures gradually creeping up a touch. we've also got this cold front that'll reintroduce some outbreaks of rain in places. so generally speaking then, through the week ahead, many of us clinging onto some largely dry, settled conditions. those temperatures gradually creeping up day upon day. that's your latest forecast.
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