the home secretary, an action hero, the health of a planet, you will not want in the space. just the health of a planet, you will not want in the space.— want in the space. just as world leaders jetted _ want in the space. just as world leaders jetted to _ want in the space. just as world leadersjetted to japan, - want in the space. just as world leaders jetted to japan, more . leaders jetted to japan, more evidence leadersjetted to japan, more evidence the leaders jetted to japan, more evidence the weather is getting warmer faster. evidence the weather is getting warmerfaster. anxiety among warmer faster. anxiety among business warmerfaster. anxiety among business that government is not doing everything it can to help them go green. the doing everything it can to help them no ureen. , doing everything it can to help them .0 reen, , , , doing everything it can to help them ”oreen. , , , go green. the battery industry has not been able _ go green. the battery industry has not been able to _ go green. the battery industry has not been able to keep _ go green. the battery industry has not been able to keep pace - go green. the battery industry has not been able to keep pace with i not been able to keep pace with level of demand for batteries. watch this sace, level of demand for batteries. watch this space. we _ level of demand for batteries. watch this space, we are _ level of demand for batteries. watch this space, we are very _ level of demand for batteries. watch this space, we are very focused - level of demand for batteries. watch this space, we are very focused on i this space, we are very focused on making _ this space, we are very focused on making sure — this space, we are very focused on making sure the uk gets there. building — making sure the uk gets there. building electric cars, green energy, cleaning up the environment, complaints about delays are all too common. after years, industry has apologised for the unpleasantness apologised for the unpleasa ntness you apologised for the unpleasantness you might encounter when taking a

dip. we you might encounter when taking a di -. ~ ., you might encounter when taking a di ., . ., , you might encounter when taking a di. ~ . , , you might encounter when taking a di. ., y y ., dip. we are very sorry for the sills of dip. we are very sorry for the spills of untreated _ dip. we are very sorry for the spills of untreated sewage i dip. we are very sorry for the l spills of untreated sewage and dip. we are very sorry for the - spills of untreated sewage and have gone into rivers and onto the beaches. . , gone into rivers and onto the beaches-_ gone into rivers and onto the beaches. . , , beaches. excuse me... there is olite beaches. excuse me... there is polite protest — beaches. excuse me... there is polite protest but _ beaches. excuse me... there is polite protest but the _ beaches. excuse me... there is polite protest but the tories - beaches. excuse me... there is| polite protest but the tories are not paying enough attention. bier? not paying enough attention. very nice peeple--- _ not paying enough attention. very nice people... turning _ not paying enough attention. very nice people... turning nasty- nice people... turning nasty sometimes. _ nice people... turning nasty sometimes. we _ nice people... turning nasty sometimes. we have - nice people... turning nasty sometimes. we have one i nice people... turning nasty| sometimes. we have one big nice people... turning nasty- sometimes. we have one big question this morning. how much do politicians really care about the planet? global superstar, politician and climate hero arnold schwarzenegger tells governments to get on with it! the bottom line is people worldwide are angry about government because theyjust have excuses after excuses about why they cannot get it done. so, is our government really going green? none better to answer than therese coffey, the environment secretary, on the planet and, forgive me, poo. labour's plans for the nhs are coming tomorrow. the man who wants to be the next health secretary, wes streeting, is with us from sheffield today.

and with me to help us make our way through the news — the country's number cruncher, martin lewis — what will happen to the energy cap next week? and welcome to fatima ibrahahim — climate activist from the campaign group green new deal rising. and the champion of the north and former conservative cabinet ministerjake berry. morning, morning! saving the planet, saving our rivers from sewage, and how labour says it will save the nhs. a lot to talk about. but first, let's look at the headlines this morning. no surprise, tabloid is phillip schofield's except from the this

morning sofa. the sunday mirror, "they think it's all sofa." the daily star, "we've had our phil." their writers have had some fun this morning. on bbc news, an important and developing story about what's happened in the elections in northern ireland where sinn fein has become the largest party in local government. lots of information for you there. and the political scoop of the weekend on the front of the sunday times — reporter harry yorke's story about the home secretary who asked officials to help her handle her speeding fine. that's also on the front of the mail — claims she was trying to cover it up. welcome to all three of you. jake berry, should there be an investigation into what suella braverman did? i investigation into what suella braverman did?— investigation into what suella braverman did? ., �* ~ ., braverman did? i don't think we have seen enough — braverman did? i don't think we have seen enough about _ braverman did? i don't think we have seen enough about this _ braverman did? i don't think we have seen enough about this story. - seen enough about this story. certainly brings into question the use of civil service and civil servants. i think there is definitely questions to be answered. i guess it will be in the house of

commons, urgent question or statement on monday. this is part of... people get speeding fines, the archbishop of canterbury, public figures, you should not do it in the first place, but if you get caught, take the medicine. let's see where we get to with this case on monday in the commons. fist we get to with this case on monday in the commons.— we get to with this case on monday in the commons. at the core of the sto is in the commons. at the core of the story is what _ in the commons. at the core of the story is what she _ in the commons. at the core of the story is what she did _ in the commons. at the core of the story is what she did and _ in the commons. at the core of the story is what she did and whether l story is what she did and whether she asked officials to cover it up. i want to show you what the prime minister had to say, he was asked at the end of his trip to japan a couple of hours ago. i the end of his trip to japan a couple of hours ago.- the end of his trip to japan a couple of hours ago. i don't know the full details _ couple of hours ago. i don't know the full details of _ couple of hours ago. i don't know the full details of what _ couple of hours ago. i don't know the full details of what has - the full details of what has happened, i have not spoken to the home _ happened, i have not spoken to the home secretary. you can see first-hand — home secretary. you can see first—hand what i have been doing over the _ first—hand what i have been doing over the last day. i understand she has expressed regret for speeding, accepted _ has expressed regret for speeding, accepted the penalty and paid the fine. hee— accepted the penalty and paid the fine. ~ , ., fine. we understand the prime minister did _ fine. we understand the prime minister did not _ fine. we understand the prime minister did not know - fine. we understand the prime minister did not know before i fine. we understand the prime i minister did not know before this story broke last night. someone who is involved in politics in a specific way around climate but generally as a campaigner, fatima,

what does it make think? i generally as a campaigner, fatima, what does it make think?— what does it make think? i think suella braverman _ what does it make think? i think suella braverman is _ what does it make think? i think suella braverman is a _ what does it make think? i think suella braverman is a cruel- suella braverman is a cruel minister. _ suella braverman is a cruel minister, an architect of a cruel immigration system. this isjust an extension— immigration system. this isjust an extension of— immigration system. this isjust an extension of her moral bankruptcy. we expect— extension of her moral bankruptcy. we expect our politicians to abide by the _ we expect our politicians to abide by the law— we expect our politicians to abide by the law and when they make the mistakes _ by the law and when they make the mistakes be honest, not use civil servants — mistakes be honest, not use civil servants to — mistakes be honest, not use civil servants to make —— cover up mistakes. — servants to make —— cover up mistakes. she should have been gone a long _ mistakes. she should have been gone a longtime _ mistakes. she should have been gone a long time ago. | mistakes. she should have been gone a long time ago-— a long time ago. i don't think we know enough — a long time ago. i don't think we know enough detail _ a long time ago. i don't think we know enough detail to _ a long time ago. i don't think we know enough detail to rush - a long time ago. i don't think we know enough detail to rush to i know enough detail to rush to judgment. the ministerial code is clear. if there are breaches to the ministerial code, ministers should resign. whether this is a case where the code has been breached, i cannot say. i am like the prime minister, i do not have enough detail, but i do think we will find out more detail and i am sure the home secretary will come forward and explain her actions, if that is required. thea;r actions, if that is required. they have not denied _ actions, if that is required. they have not denied the _ actions, if that is required. they have not denied the story but we should say there is no suggestion she has broken the law, it is how she has broken the law, it is how she was trying to get people to handle the fine given. something

else, our viewers know you, martin, for helping us save cash, i want to show people something important this week, the energy price cap is changing, set by the regulator ofgem, it has been for an average household more than 0fgem, it has been for an average household more than £3000 but because of the government's energy price guarantee a typical user paying by direct debit pays no more than £2500 a year. predictions are the new price cap will be set at just over £2000 injuly. lots of numbers. what does it mean for people watching? in numbers. what does it mean for people watching?— numbers. what does it mean for people watching? in practicalterms, what ou people watching? in practicalterms, what you pay — people watching? in practicalterms, what you pay from — people watching? in practicalterms, what you pay from july _ people watching? in practicalterms, what you pay from july will _ people watching? in practicalterms, what you pay from july will drop - what you pay from july will drop from _ what you pay from july will drop from 15-20%. _ what you pay from july will drop from 15—20%, pretty— what you pay from july will drop from 15—20%, pretty sure - what you pay from july will drop from 15—20%, pretty sure it - what you pay from july will drop | from 15—20%, pretty sure it isn't that the — from 15—20%, pretty sure it isn't that the next— from 15—20%, pretty sure it isn't that the next price _ from 15—20%, pretty sure it isn't that the next price cap- from 15—20%, pretty sure it isn't that the next price cap comes i from 15—20%, pretty sure it isn't that the next price cap comes ini that the next price cap comes in october. — that the next price cap comes in october, current— that the next price cap comes in october, current production - that the next price cap comes in october, current production and 0ctober, current production and further— 0ctober, current production and further up — 0ctober, current production and further up you _ 0ctober, current production and further up you go— 0ctober, current production and further up you go the _ 0ctober, current production and further up you go the more - 0ctober, current production and i further up you go the more crystal ball gazing — further up you go the more crystal ball gazing at _ further up you go the more crystal ball gazing at is, _ further up you go the more crystal ball gazing at is, it _ further up you go the more crystal ball gazing at is, it will— further up you go the more crystal ball gazing at is, it will drop - further up you go the more crystal ball gazing at is, it will drop a - ball gazing at is, it will drop a little — ball gazing at is, it will drop a little bit — ball gazing at is, it will drop a little bit more _ ball gazing at is, it will drop a little bit more and _ ball gazing at is, it will drop a little bit more and go - ball gazing at is, it will drop a little bit more and go a - ball gazing at is, it will drop a little bit more and go a littlel ball gazing at is, it will drop a i little bit more and go a little bit up little bit more and go a little bit up in _ little bit more and go a little bit up injanuary. _ little bit more and go a little bit up injanuary. but— little bit more and go a little bit up injanuary, but still- little bit more and go a little bit up injanuary, but still roughly. little bit more and go a little bit i up injanuary, but still roughly the amount— up injanuary, but still roughly the amount it — up injanuary, but still roughly the amount it is — up injanuary, but still roughly the amount it is now. _ up injanuary, but still roughly the amount it is now. it _ up injanuary, but still roughly the amount it is now. it is _ up injanuary, but still roughly the amount it is now. it is an- amount it is now. it is an improvement, _ amount it is now. it is an improvement, not- amount it is now. it is an improvement, not the i amount it is now. it is an- improvement, not the biggest amount it is now. it is an— improvement, not the biggest worth remembering —

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rate which means we still have this hideous— rate which means we still have this hideous moral— rate which means we still have this hideous moral hazard _ rate which means we still have this hideous moral hazard that - rate which means we still have this hideous moral hazard that the - rate which means we still have this hideous moral hazard that the less| hideous moral hazard that the less you use, _ hideous moral hazard that the less you use, the — hideous moral hazard that the less you use, the less— hideous moral hazard that the less you use, the less you _ hideous moral hazard that the less you use, the less you can- hideous moral hazard that the less you use, the less you can save - you use, the less you can save because — you use, the less you can save because of— you use, the less you can save because of the _ you use, the less you can save because of the way— you use, the less you can save because of the way the - you use, the less you can save because of the way the whole i you use, the less you can save - 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change. thank you for now for giving us your opening thoughts on a - change. thank you for now for giving us your opening thoughts on a range j us your opening thoughts on a range of issues. in a few minutes we will be talking to therese coffey and suella braveman —— environment secretary and suella braveman's cabinet colleague. you can e—mail us, kuenssberg@bbc.co.uk, or use the hashtag turn, whether you want to ask her about environment, her day job —— the hashtag #bbclaurak. he could be kicking back, after several incredible careers — body—builder, movie star and republican governor of california — but the self—professed, boomer arnold schwarzenegger has no time for that. he's using his time, and fame, to tell politicians that, when it comes to saving the planet, they have to get on with it. i went to meet him at the climate conference he puts together every year in vienna and i asked him,

if the story of trying to save the planet was a script or a movie, what stage are we at? i think that it's unlike anything else, because it involves stability, it involves greed, it involves politicians, which means it involves lies and exaggerations and promises. it involves, you know, death, it involves sickness, cancer, it involves money, it involves opportunities. it involves so many different things, i mean, it would be a hell of a movie. i would not even say it should be done as a movie, it should be done as a tv series. where are we in that stage, then? you know, i think we are in a good place because i think that more and more people are recognising the fact that we are in trouble, and that 7 million people die every year because of pollution, and something has to be done about it.

i've seen how we can get things done and move things forward, and how important it is to bring people together and not to fight each other and call each other names. but to bring people together, including the oil companies, the fossil fuel companies, the coal companies. everybody, bring everybody together, the car manufacturers and everything. i think people are waking up finally and they get the message this is about pollution and notjust about climate change. because the word climate change hasn't really meant that much to most people, they don't know what it is. so it's important to talk about pollution and the danger of pollution, how it ruins your health and how you eventually could die because of pollution. politicians, though, sometimes tell people, it's just too expensive. people watching this might think, i don't want wind turbines near my house. there is an expression in the uk, the nimby, not in my back yard. what do you say to people who believe that? well, i think that the nimby is notjust in england but it's all over the world.

no one likes to have, you know, the windmills in their back yard. but i also don't want to have oil drilling going on in my back yard. and that's what they used to have all over california, all over the united states. we have to get off oil, we have to get off coal. it's ludicrous to stop a wind farm and make more room for coal, something like that. i think coal is outdated, i think it's more expensive now to have coal rather than renewables. and we can in fact get off fossil fuels, but we have to speed up the permitting process so we can build green projects. i went through this when i was governor in california. it took me nine years to build a renewable power line that only had green energy. it took me nine years, it normally should have taken two years. so we are basically kind of like killing ourselves with the lack of speeding up the process and stopping all the lawsuits

and the protests and moving forward and getting things done. and here in vienna this morning, we arrived, there were people gluing themselves to the road outside. and the activists involved some times now are taking quite extreme action to cause disruption to people's lives, to raise the cause. is that the right way to go about it? this is a very passionate people, these are people that mean well. they are maybe not going about it in a way that we would like them to go about it. but the bottom line is, people worldwide are angry about government. because they have just have excuses after excuses why they cannot get it done. i mean, think about it, that the world signed an agreement in 2015 in paris, to go and to reduce greenhouse gases by a certain percentage. well, 70% of the countries have not really lived up to that promise.

so, now you live in one of those countries and you say to yourself, wait a minute, including austria, has not lived up to its promise. 70% of the countries that have not lived up to the promise, so people are angry. they say, what can i do? so they go and choose to do anything because they are angry and they are frustrated. so governments always find excuses after excuses why it's expensive, it's this, it's that. i don't know what they're talking about. it's just the will is not there and they're worried about selling out and all of these kind of things, may be disappointing the oil companies or the car manufacturers. it needs leadership and it needs people to come together. times have changed. and we have to change with them. trust me, you don't want to be the old out—of—touch boomer. you said in your speech, though, people shouldn't be boomers. what do you mean by that? do you think there is a group, a generation, that doesn't want to believe what's really going on? well, what i'm basically

saying is that we have to change with the times. i would not want to drive, except maybe for fun, to drive a car that is 50 years old. i don't want to make investments that were really cool 50 years ago. you would lose your shirt today if you make those investments. the same thing, also we do want to go and use beepers. we are using now iphones or whatever phone you have. the technology has changed. we have to change with the technology. it's as simple as that. so, the same as with the environmental movement, we have to get out of that mode of stopping every project from being built, we've got to go and build, build, build all those green projects. would you say to our viewers, bbc viewers, don't be a boomer? hey, i myself am a boomer. i mean, iam, like, horrible. sometimes i am not with the programme when it comes to technology.

but luckily, i have kids that kind of remind me all the time. "daddy, old—fashioned, come on, get out of it. "this is the new technology." they show me the new technology and they push me in that direction, so luckily, i have someone that pushes me away from that old—fashioned way. and do you still have your hummer? i have my hummer, i have one hummer that is electric and i have another hummer that is a biofuel. i want to show that you can have the biggest cars in the world, military vehicles that used to be with the old technology big polluters. you take this engine out, you put the new technology and then all of a sudden, you have no problem. i want to talk about something else that is also close to your heart and what is going on in ukraine. you have spoken so powerfully about the battle the. about the battle there. what goes through your mind when you see president zelensky fighting back, travelling the world, getting western leaders to support him? what do you think when you see him?

the first thing that comes to my mind is he is i think a real hero. i mean, he is very committed, he is very tough, and he is doing an extraordinaryjob for his people. i feel really sorry for the ukrainian people that they have without using unprovoked being thrown into this kind of huge war and so many people have to die because of that. not only ukrainian people but russian people as well. it is just unnecessary death. you said in a recent interview you were worried about people getting sucked into hatred. your own family history, that happened. your father was a nazi. are you worried about what could happen now on this continent? well, i don't think it has much to do with now. i think that when you look at the history of the human race, they always were prejudiced and we always killed each other

because somehow when someone was a little bit different, we hated them. and we went out and just, you know, eliminated them. but human beings, we have a power when we say, well, let's not do that just because someone is different. and i want the people to use that and just say, look, maybe i grew up, like i did, prejudiced. but i don't have to stay there. i can become my own human being, i can create my own world, my own community, and i can change that tradition, and i can change and be more inclusive and more accepting. that doesn't mean that you erase prejudice in your mind, because it's always there. but we can deal with it. many people i think in america worry that that is not the overwhelming feeling in some parts of the republican party, your party, right now. what would it mean for your party if donald trump was to make a comeback and to run again? well, i think prejudice goes both ways. there is no limit when it

comes to politics. there's people that are very hateful that are democrats, there are people who are very hateful that are republicans. it's nothing to do with the party line at all. and i think it's very important thatjust, we just calm this down and not talk about hypotheticals, what is "if trump becomes president", what is if, why don't we deal with the problems we actually have today? rather than, what is if? because to me that's too overwhelming. but this is not a hypothetical question in the united states now, it's a real question, he's trying to run again. but it's a hypothetical question, what is "if he becomes president", that's a hypothetical question. because he is so far away from that, that it's not even funny. because it's like, we are two years, we are still a year and a half away from the presidential election. so no one knows what happens within the next year and a half. you've had the most extraordinary career, four careers, really. fitness revolutionary, politician, movie star

and now climate warrior, you were introduced as on the stage today. i know you havejust made a big series about your extraordinary life, the tag line on your new documentary i think is "heroes don't retire". will you ever step back from the work that you are trying to do when it comes to trying to save the planet, forgive me, i can't help myself, will you always be back? i cannot retire since i don't ever feel like i'm working. from morning to night i'm doing interesting things, always different things and i love it. what should i retire from? from loving what i'm doing? that's not going to happen. so you'll always be back? i always will be back. the extrardoinary arnold. you get the feeling that he doesn't take no for an answer. so, let's get some answers from one of our politicians. therese coffey, the environment secretary, who's with us today for the first time. welcome to the red chair.

his message to governments like ours here in the uk and around the world is, when it comes to climate change, stop coming up with excuses and get on with it. do stop coming up with excuses and get on with it. ,, stop coming up with excuses and get on with it. i. ., stop coming up with excuses and get on with it. , ., ., stop coming up with excuses and get on with it-— i i on with it. do you agree with him? i think we really _ on with it. do you agree with him? i think we really are _ on with it. do you agree with him? i think we really are getting - on with it. do you agree with him? i think we really are getting on - on with it. do you agree with him? i think we really are getting on with l think we really are getting on with it, we had a really successful cop26 and we brought nations together, we can get universal agreement from a couple of countries but i think the acceleration we have seen which is projected is critical and it needs to be because the impact of climate change is becoming ever real. we talked a lot last week in the studio with an energy boss, and we have heard warnings from all sorts of other businesses through the week, that actually when it comes to getting on with things now, the uk is installing a bit, it's hard to get planning permission, the finances there but the government is tying things up in red and people are objecting to local projects. we can see a picture of you with the petition about a proposed building of cables going through your constituency to an offshore wind farm with the land. if you as one of

our political leaders are saying, i don't really want this in my back yard, how are we going to get this done? ., , ., done? the government is getting on with building — done? the government is getting on with building nuclear— done? the government is getting on with building nuclear power- done? the government is getting on with building nuclear power in - with building nuclear power in hinckley and also my constituency with sizewell c so that will be coming through. in with sizewell c so that will be coming through.— with sizewell c so that will be coming through. in many years, nuclear is _ coming through. in many years, nuclear is not _ coming through. in many years, nuclear is not a _ coming through. in many years, nuclear is not a fast _ coming through. in many years, nuclear is not a fast answer. - coming through. in many years, nuclear is not a fast answer. we already have — nuclear is not a fast answer. , already have sizewell b generating electricity as we speak. there is a case of making sure we take full advantage of what we can do and bringing more and more renewables and in particular on a local level, one of the things that i have had concerns about is about how we get coordination of all the different wind farms that are in the north sea and how we can make more sense of that and bring it in preferably on a brownfield site rather than a greenfield site when there are alternatives that. in terms of overall, we are definitely moving ahead, accelerating work on solar power, offshore wind farms, and indeed work happening on onshore wind farms as well. but indeed work happening on onshore wind farms as well.— wind farms as well. but there are two onshore wind farms - wind farms as well. but there are two onshore wind farms built - wind farms as well. but there are two onshore wind farms built last year. we talked about that last

week, in england. isn't this precisely the point that when it comes to people's own communities, may be perfectly reasonably like you say, actually i would like a review and i would like to look at different i want everybody to stop and have a think about it. and all the while the climate is warming, we are struggling with energy bills and things are stalling. $5 i are struggling with energy bills and things are stalling.— things are stalling. as i said, nuclear power _ things are stalling. as i said, nuclear power stations - things are stalling. as i said, nuclear power stations are i things are stalling. as i said, - nuclear power stations are going ahead in both somerset and suffolk. and indeed a huge amount of gigawatts to come in to offshore wind. it's about making sure that thatis wind. it's about making sure that that is coordinated. these projects to take some time anyway in terms of the engineering. that's why the government has acted and also increasing the amounts that can beat happening in solar. the look of this i think the uk is leading the way. —— ina i think the uk is leading the way. —— in a lot of this in the uk leading the way, we have just had the g7, we are moving onto the g20 which is why we will continue to work with countries around the world on getting away from coal which we

have done really successfully, and we need to help others with the technology in order to make that transition. ~ .,, transition. while those conversations - transition. while those conversations are - transition. while those | conversations are going transition. while those - conversations are going on with world leaders, we are all at home as we were talking about with martin experiencing energy bills double what they were a couple of years ago. prices are still sky—high for people, the standing charge which everybody has to pay, you don't have a choice, is double what it used to be. what is the government doing now because we know there has been lots of subsidy in the last year so you don't have to remind us of that, but people are still going to be struggling with their bills, aren't they? struggling with their bills, aren't the ? . ., , struggling with their bills, aren't the ? . .,, ., struggling with their bills, aren't the? ., , they? the cost of living support as ou oint they? the cost of living support as you point it _ they? the cost of living support as you point it has — they? the cost of living support as you point it has been _ they? the cost of living support as you point it has been huge, - they? the cost of living support as you point it has been huge, nearly| you point it has been huge, nearly £95 billion over the last couple of years. and indeed will be helping particularly people on the lowest incomes with direct payment support to help with the cost of living challenge to people face. i think it's a case of making sure that we get those new things coming on stream, as i say more nuclear coming, we haven't built a nuclear

power station since the last one was built in suffolk back in the 805 and thati5 built in suffolk back in the 805 and that is the sort of infrastructure, that is the sort of infrastructure, that investment which is actually happening under this government. br; happening under this government. by your own admission, that's going to take years. what are you going to do for people in the next winter about their energy bills which as martin has made very clear, 5till their energy bills which as martin has made very clear, still going to be a very high?— be a very high? historically the whole concept _ be a very high? historically the whole concept has _ be a very high? historically the whole concept has been - be a very high? historically the whole concept has been linked | be a very high? historically the i whole concept has been linked to be a very high? historically the - whole concept has been linked to the gas price which is why the focus and the prime minister renamed the energy department on this, the energy department on this, the energy security and net zero is about how we build more resilient at home. that's why the number of projects are under way, more and more is coming from new renewable5 today, ratherthan more is coming from new renewable5 today, rather than that. there is still a coupling of gas prices worldwide to electricity price5 still a coupling of gas prices worldwide to electricity prices that we see in our bills. there continues to need to be investment. i hear what martin said about standing charges, i expect that we will continue to look at the different ways that those charges are put

through to bill payers, but we have is considerable support helping people particularly with the lowest incomes. a, ., people particularly with the lowest incomes. ., , incomes. martin, to coffey has said that there is _ incomes. martin, to coffey has said that there is support _ incomes. martin, to coffey has said that there is support for _ incomes. martin, to coffey has said that there is support for people - that there is support for people available. ,., ., ., available. the important thing that we will see in _ available. the important thing that we will see in july _ available. the important thing that we will see in july is _ available. the important thing that we will see in july is that _ available. the important thing that we will see in july is that the - we will see in july is that the energy— we will see in july is that the energy price guarantee ends which means— energy price guarantee ends which means that the state subsidy of everyone's bills is ending nine months — everyone's bills is ending nine months earlier than it was predicted to, the _ months earlier than it was predicted to, the expenditure is tens of billions — to, the expenditure is tens of billions less then we thought. there is line _ billions less then we thought. there is line -- _ billions less then we thought. there is line —— money to help those on lower— is line —— money to help those on lower and — is line —— money to help those on lower and middle incomes and it's those _ lower and middle incomes and it's those people above the threshold who don't get _ those people above the threshold who don't get the cost of living help for whom — don't get the cost of living help for whom £2000 a year is unaffordable for energy bills. is there _ unaffordable for energy bills. is there any— unaffordable for energy bills. is there any help for those built who? i there any help for those built who? i havent— there any help for those built who? i haven't heard of it, i haven't had any announcements. the chancellor set out our — any announcements. the chancellor set out our plan _ any announcements. the chancellor set out our plan several _ any announcements. the chancellor set out our plan several months - any announcements. the chancellori set out our plan several months ago on what was happening there, i'm conscious there is only a limited amount of support going to every bill payer. but i think the critical

thing that people will be expecting from the government is getting that electricity pipeline flowing within our own country rather than constantly being reliant on aspects of the link to the gas prices around the world. , ., ., the world. viewers will have had this moment _ the world. viewers will have had this moment you _ the world. viewers will have had this moment you don't - the world. viewers will have had this moment you don't your - the world. viewers will have had this moment you don't your own j this moment you don't your own constituency. this moment you don't your own constituency-— this moment you don't your own constituency. that's the case, we are having _ constituency. that's the case, we are having a _ constituency. that's the case, we are having a nuclear— constituency. that's the case, we are having a nuclear power- constituency. that's the case, we i are having a nuclear power station, there are wind farms —— that's not there are wind farms —— that's not the case. there are wind farms -- that's not the case. ., ,., ., , there are wind farms -- that's not the case. ., ,., .,, , the case. our e-mail inbox has been jam-packed — the case. our e-mail inbox has been jam-packed with _ the case. our e-mail inbox has been jam-packed with sewage _ the case. our e-mail inbox has been jam-packed with sewage and - the case. our e-mail inbox has been jam-packed with sewage and the - jam—packed with sewage and the qualities of our rivers and seas. we can look at the pictures of sewage being spilled into the sea, i hope we are not putting any one of their breakfast. would you go for a swim in that? it’s breakfast. would you go for a swim in that? �*, ., . . ., ., ., ., ., breakfast. would you go for a swim inthat? �*, ., ., ., ., , in that? it's accommodation what is ha enin: in that? it's accommodation what is happening is _ in that? it's accommodation what is happening is coming _ in that? it's accommodation what is happening is coming out _ in that? it's accommodation what is happening is coming out of - in that? it's accommodation what is happening is coming out of the - in that? it's accommodation what is i happening is coming out of the storm overflows, what is going through is when we have a particular rainfall, thatis when we have a particular rainfall, that is when they are supposed to be triggers. the water companies are already under criminal investigation about what has been happening with storm overflows but frankly we would not even know about this if it was not even know about this if it was not for a conservative government

which started to insist on the monitoring and the publication of the data. we are not saying that in scotland and frankly there are on average the frequency of sewage flows is happening far more in wales thanit flows is happening far more in wales than it is in england. mr; flows is happening far more in wales than it is in england.— than it is in england. my question for my viewers — than it is in england. my question for my viewers in _ than it is in england. my question for my viewers in england, - than it is in england. my question for my viewers in england, which | than it is in england. my question i for my viewers in england, which is what you are responsible for, would you go for a swim in that kind of water, what advice would you have four people, the weather is warming up, would you let children going swimming in water like that? we have 400 designated _ swimming in water like that? we have 400 designated bathing _ swimming in water like that? we have 400 designated bathing water- swimming in water like that? we have 400 designated bathing water sites i 400 designated bathing water sites around the country. the good news is that since 2010 we have seen the quality of that baby or to significantly increase. quality of that baby or to sianificantl increase. ~ . . ., ., significantly increase. according to the environment _ significantly increase. according to the environment agency _ significantly increase. according to the environment agency it - significantly increase. according to the environment agency it has - significantly increase. according to the environment agency it has got| the environment agency it has got worse, it is the worst in europe according to the appearance of environmental agency... according to the appearance of environmentalagency... i’m according to the appearance of environmental agency... i'm afraid that's not true. _ environmental agency... i'm afraid that's not true. there _ environmental agency... i'm afraid that's not true. there were - environmental agency... i'm afraid that's not true. there were 76 - environmental agency... i'm afraid. that's not true. there were 76 taken in the middle of covid and that is —— some statistics taken in the middle of covid and that is what the guardian and others pointed to but thatis

guardian and others pointed to but that is when water is not assessed. we have over 90% of bathing water is good or excellent, up from 70% in 2010. there has been investment and work in making sure that the bathing water is green. the work in making sure that the bathing water is green-— water is green. the point is whether it is aood water is green. the point is whether it is good enough. _ water is green. the point is whether it is good enough. people _ water is green. the point is whether it is good enough. people feel- water is green. the point is whether it is good enough. people feel so i it is good enough. people feel so strongly about this. we can show a map of what is happening in england, so many places where people are seeing these outflows. i completely understand. — seeing these outflows. i completely understand, laura, _ seeing these outflows. i completely understand, laura, which _ seeing these outflows. i completely understand, laura, which is- seeing these outflows. i completely understand, laura, which is why - seeing these outflows. i completely| understand, laura, which is why not only are they under criminal investigation by the environment agency, the scourge of sewage has really been unveiled by the fact that it was a conservative governments that put in place that monitoring had to happen. we put powers into our environment act which 0fwat are going to take advantage of and we have insisted on advantage of and we have insisted on a storm overflow environmental action plan. i have asked for a plan by the end of next month on my desk. the water companies have apologised this week and you have pointed out

they are under investigation but what has made a lot of our viewers really cross is notjust as lynn prichard is asking, why has the government over the years allowed sewage to be discharged into rivers and disease, but why, she e—mails, do we as consumers have to pay extra for this to be cleaned up? because, yes, the companies are promising billions on this, but those billions are going to go on to our bills, why should consumers pay? tithe are going to go on to our bills, why should consumers pay?— are going to go on to our bills, why should consumers pay? one thing is really clear. — should consumers pay? one thing is really clear, consumers _ should consumers pay? one thing is really clear, consumers will- should consumers pay? one thing is really clear, consumers will not - should consumers pay? one thing is really clear, consumers will not be i really clear, consumers will not be paying for the penalties of fines... they are paying for the clean—up. that the environment agency can levy and 0fwat as well. there is an element that that had to be taken account, the polluter pays. there has been a record amount of investment since privatisation, i am very conscious there have been dividends, last year it was just under 4% dividends, last year it was just under4% repaid,... mr; dividends, last year it was 'ust under 4% repaid,... my question is, why should — under 4% repaid,... my question is, why should consumers _ under 4% repaid,... my question is, why should consumers have - under 4% repaid,... my question is, why should consumers have to - under 4% repaid,... my question is, i why should consumers have to pay? the water billion companies paid out

£2 billion in dividends to shareholders so why should consumers have to pay to clean up the mess? consumers are not going to be paying for the fines and penalties that that have been levied. there has been ongoing investment in these things. not farfrom here been ongoing investment in these things. not far from here we been ongoing investment in these things. not farfrom here we have the terms of super sewer, a multi—billion pound project which takes over ten years to do, that will eradicate pretty much all of the need to use storm overflows in the need to use storm overflows in the future. i am conscious, that is why we have asked 0fwat or 0fwat has taken advantage of the powers they have asked for two link environmental performance to the payment of dividends. i know several water company chief executives are not taking bonuses. i will say that we will continue to make sure, we have got this plan, water uk have talked about £10 billion, that is the figure we were expecting them to arrest by the end of the decade, and they need to get on with the job and tackle this including storm action overflow plans which i am expecting on my desk at the end of the month.

why did suella braveman try to avoid a public speed awareness course after breaking the speed limit? i have read the same level of detail you have in the newspapers, i am not aware of more specific details, as the prime minister said, she has taken points, she had the option to do a speed course, she has not done it, she regrets the speeding, that is all the information i have. mas is all the information i have. was she t in: is all the information i have. was she trying to _ is all the information i have. was she trying to avoid _ is all the information i have. was she trying to avoid the press or public finding out she had broken the speed limit? i public finding out she had broken the speed limit?— the speed limit? i only have the same information, _ the speed limit? i only have the same information, i— the speed limit? i only have the same information, i do - the speed limit? i only have the same information, i do have - same information, i do have particular extra information to share, apart from what has been said. , , ., , , ., said. this story broke at five o'clock yesterday _ said. this story broke at five o'clock yesterday afternoon, said. this story broke at five - o'clock yesterday afternoon, did you not bother to try to find out what was going on so you could explain to viewers this morning? i was was going on so you could explain to viewers this morning?— viewers this morning? i was briefed in the usual— viewers this morning? i was briefed in the usual way _ viewers this morning? i was briefed in the usual way before _ viewers this morning? i was briefed in the usual way before coming - viewers this morning? i was briefed in the usual way before coming on i in the usual way before coming on shows like this, my understanding is it is exactly what has been shared.

but it is speculation. hang on. forgive me, it is not speculation, the government has not denied this, they have admitted she talk to people in her department about whether or not she had an option to do a speed awareness course on her own rather than having to do something with the public like everybody else. it is not speculation, the government admitted this happen. why do, is a viewer wants to know, they have e—mailed, why do government ministers think they are above the rules and can ask for that kind of special treatment? i don't think they think they are above the rules. as referred to earlier, some people have recently lost their licence, some people get fines, we have seen that across all walks of public life. i think as has been said, what has been written in the newspapers, it is there, the details shared with the public so far, i don't have any more details. pretty much everyone has the option

to pay a fine, take points, go on a course. the precise aspects about the course is what you are trying to speculate but i don't have any more details. �* r' speculate but i don't have any more details. �* ,, speculate but i don't have any more details. �* , ., , speculate but i don't have any more details. , ., , ., details. asking you questions rather than speculating, _ details. asking you questions rather than speculating, you _ details. asking you questions rather than speculating, you have - details. asking you questions rather than speculating, you have made i details. asking you questions rather than speculating, you have made it| than speculating, you have made it plain you don't have more information. lastly, yourfirst time information. lastly, yourfirst time in the studio, extraordinary period of political turmoil, he were liz truss's closest properly political friend and deputy promised a —— you were. your party got hammered in the local council elections a couple of weeks ago and colleagues have told us in the studio and privately the chaos of what happened when you two were there is partly to blame, do you feel like you should apologise for what went wrong to councils, councillors who lost seats, and conservative colleagues? yesterday i met a number— conservative colleagues? yesterday i met a number of— conservative colleagues? yesterday i met a number of former _ conservative colleagues? yesterday i met a number of former councillors i met a number of former councillors in my constituency and i have got no doubt people stayed at home or may have switched as a bit of a view on the first opportunity since the

last... what happened last year. i think nationally we recognise we have to get on the job, that is why the prime minister's five priorities are key. d0 the prime minister's five priorities are ke. the prime minister's five priorities are ke . ~ ., the prime minister's five priorities areke. ~ ., are key. do you think what happened when liz are key. do you think what happened when liz truss _ are key. do you think what happened when liz truss was _ are key. do you think what happened when liz truss was in _ are key. do you think what happened when liz truss was in charge - are key. do you think what happened when liz truss was in charge and i are key. do you think what happened when liz truss was in charge and you were at her side...? i when liz truss was in charge and you were at her side. . . ?_ were at her side...? i know in my art of were at her side...? i know in my part of the _ were at her side...? i know in my part of the world _ were at her side...? i know in my part of the world we _ were at her side...? i know in my part of the world we got - were at her side...? i know in my part of the world we got about i were at her side...? i know in my| part of the world we got about the same number of votes. conservative councillors as we did four years ago. however, the way various local packs happen, there was a reduction in the number of conservative councillors elected. it is more nuanced than has been said in terms of the analysis so far. i am very conscious national government, we want to get on, do the job, you conscious national government, we want to get on, do thejob, you know what the five priorities are. we have heard _ what the five priorities are. we have heard it plenty of times in the studio, we don't have to go back to that. great to have you with us, thank you for taking questions on such a range of subjects. 0n climate, on the controversial home secretary, on clean energy — our panel was listening hard.

listening hard to what the environment secretary had to say. firstly, jake berry, do you think the government will end up having to have an investigation into what happened with the home secretary if only to shut it down? i happened with the home secretary if only to shut it down?— only to shut it down? i simply don't know because _ only to shut it down? i simply don't know because you _ only to shut it down? i simply don't know because you don't _ only to shut it down? i simply don't know because you don't know i only to shut it down? i simply don't know because you don't know what | only to shut it down? i simply don't i know because you don't know what you don't know. at the moment as the secretary of states that we are dealing with speculation. i think all will become clear as parliament comes back next week. thea;r all will become clear as parliament comes back next week. they should have won. comes back next week. they should have won- an _ comes back next week. they should have won. an investigation - comes back next week. they should have won. an investigation will- have won. an investigation will clear— have won. an investigation will clear it — have won. an investigation will clear it up _ have won. an investigation will clear it up. its have won. an investigation will clear it up— have won. an investigation will clear it u -. �* ., ., clear it up. a matter for the prime minister. when _ clear it up. a matter for the prime minister. when i— clear it up. a matter for the prime minister. when i was _ clear it up. a matter for the prime minister. when i was party - clear it up. a matter for the prime i minister. when i was party chairman, liz truss, for all of her brilliant work and all of her faults and we can debate which one we would focus on, she was absolutely clear when the current home secretary formally breached the ministerial code, she took action. what rishi sunak does is a matterfor him. took action. what rishi sunak does is a matter for him.— is a matter for him. interesting, ou are is a matter for him. interesting, you are outspoken _ is a matter for him. interesting, you are outspoken on _ is a matter for him. interesting, you are outspoken on that i is a matter for him. interesting, you are outspoken on that and i is a matter for him. interesting, i you are outspoken on that and had breaches of the ministerial code, if you were still the chair, would you

say, let's have an investigation? ii say, let's have an investigation? if you breached the ministerial code, you breached the ministerial code, you should resign. unless we plan to reserve rewriter, it is not shades of grey. the prime minister says he has confidence in the home secretary. ultimately his decision. let us see what happens. i secretary. ultimately his decision. let us see what happens.- let us see what happens. i think home office _ let us see what happens. i think home office questions - let us see what happens. i think. home office questions tomorrow, i can imagine what yvette cooper will be scribbling in her note pad. you will be getting out the popcorn? you heard it here first. therese coffey was trying to defend the government's pace of moving towards a green economy is, what did you think? i a green economy is, what did you think? ., a green economy is, what did you think? . ., , , , , think? i am not surprised but i don't know _ think? i am not surprised but i don't know who _ think? i am not surprised but i don't know who she _ think? i am not surprised but i don't know who she is - think? i am not surprised but i don't know who she is fooling. j think? i am not surprised but i i don't know who she is fooling. the government— don't know who she is fooling. the government has— don't know who she is fooling. the government has played _ don't know who she is fooling. the government has played a - don't know who she is fooling. the government has played a good i don't know who she is fooling. the i government has played a good game, talking _ government has played a good game, talking about — government has played a good game, talking about commitment _ government has played a good game, talking about commitment to - government has played a good game, talking about commitment to climatel talking about commitment to climate change. _ talking about commitment to climate change. net — talking about commitment to climate change. net zero. _ talking about commitment to climate change, net zero, but _ talking about commitment to climate change, net zero, but the _ talking about commitment to climate change, net zero, but the figures i change, net zero, but the figures are not— change, net zero, but the figures are not there _ change, net zero, but the figures are not there. the _ change, net zero, but the figures are not there. the government i change, net zero, but the figures i are not there. the government has had a _ are not there. the government has had a green — are not there. the government has had a green day— are not there. the government has had a green day a _ are not there. the government has had a green day a couple _ are not there. the government has had a green day a couple of- are not there. the government has| had a green day a couple of months a-o had a green day a couple of months ago and _ had a green day a couple of months ago and provided _ had a green day a couple of months ago and provided no— had a green day a couple of months ago and provided no new— had a green day a couple of months ago and provided no new money, i ago and provided no new money, talking _ ago and provided no new money, talking about _ ago and provided no new money, talking about renewables, - ago and provided no new money, talking about renewables, such i ago and provided no new money, talking about renewables, such a i talking about renewables, such a lon- talking about renewables, such a long wait — talking about renewables, such a long wait list _ talking about renewables, such a long wait list for—

talking about renewables, such a long wait list for renewables i talking about renewables, such a long wait list for renewables to i talking about renewables, such a i long wait list for renewables to get online _ long wait list for renewables to get online onto — long wait list for renewables to get online onto the _ long wait list for renewables to get online onto the national— long wait list for renewables to get online onto the national grid, - online onto the national grid, opening — online onto the national grid, opening up— online onto the national grid, opening up new— online onto the national grid, opening up new coal- online onto the national grid, opening up new coal mine i online onto the national grid, opening up new coal mine in. online onto the national grid, - opening up new coal mine in cumbria, failing— opening up new coal mine in cumbria, failing targets — opening up new coal mine in cumbria, failing targets on _ opening up new coal mine in cumbria, failing targets on warming _ opening up new coal mine in cumbria, failing targets on warming homes, i failing targets on warming homes, one of— failing targets on warming homes, one of the — failing targets on warming homes, one of the biggest _ failing targets on warming homes, one of the biggest contributors i failing targets on warming homes, one of the biggest contributors toi one of the biggest contributors to the climate — one of the biggest contributors to the climate crisis _ one of the biggest contributors to the climate crisis is _ one of the biggest contributors to the climate crisis is heat - one of the biggest contributors to the climate crisis is heat leakingi the climate crisis is heat leaking into the — the climate crisis is heat leaking into the sky— the climate crisis is heat leaking into the sky from _ the climate crisis is heat leaking into the sky from homes. - the climate crisis is heat leaking into the sky from homes. we i the climate crisis is heat leakingl into the sky from homes. we are nowhere — into the sky from homes. we are nowhere closer— into the sky from homes. we are nowhere closer to _ into the sky from homes. we are nowhere closer to energy- nowhere closer to energy efficiencym _ nowhere closer to energy efficiency. . ._ nowhere closer to energy efficiency... biggo bale's. .. absolutely. _ efficiency... biggo bale's. .. absolutely. i— efficiency... biggo bale's. .. absolutely. i don't - efficiency... biggo bale's. .. absolutely. i don't know- efficiency... biggo bale's. .. i absolutely. i don't know who she efficiency... biggo bale's. .. - absolutely. i don't know who she is kidding _ absolutely. i don't know who she is kidding when — absolutely. i don't know who she is kidding when she _ absolutely. i don't know who she is kidding when she says _ absolutely. i don't know who she is kidding when she says the - absolutely. i don't know who she is- kidding when she says the government is doing _ kidding when she says the government is doing its— kidding when she says the government is doing its bit— kidding when she says the government is doing its bit -- — kidding when she says the government is doing its bit —— bigger— kidding when she says the government is doing its bit —— bigger bills. - is doing its bit —— bigger bills. the _ is doing its bit —— bigger bills. the uk — is doing its bit —— bigger bills. the uk has _ is doing its bit —— bigger bills. the uk has had _ is doing its bit —— bigger bills. the uk has had a _ is doing its bit —— bigger bills. the uk has had a decent - is doing its bit —— bigger bills. i the uk has had a decent record compare to other countries in terms of moving forward with renewables, is the crown slipping? last of moving forward with renewables, is the crown slipping?— is the crown slipping? last year the us u- to is the crown slipping? last year the us up to investment _ is the crown slipping? last year the us up to investment in _ is the crown slipping? last year the us up to investment in renewables| is the crown slipping? last year the i us up to investment in renewables by 27%, us up to investment in renewables by 27%. germany— us up to investment in renewables by 27%. germany i7%. _ us up to investment in renewables by 27%, germany 17%, in— us up to investment in renewables by 27%, germany 17%, in the _ us up to investment in renewables by 27%, germany 17%, in the uk- us up to investment in renewables by 27%, germany 17%, in the uk fallen i 27%, germany 17%, in the uk fallen by 10%~ _ 27%, germany 17%, in the uk fallen by 10%~ we — 27%, germany 17%, in the uk fallen by 10%~ we are _ 27%, germany 17%, in the uk fallen by 10%. we are falling _ 27%, germany 17%, in the uk fallen by 10%. we are falling behind - 27%, germany 17%, in the uk fallen by 10%. we are falling behind at i 27%, germany 17%, in the uk fallen by 10%. we are falling behind at a i by 10%. we are falling behind at a time _ by 10%. we are falling behind at a time when — by 10%. we are falling behind at a time when the _ by 10%. we are falling behind at a time when the globe _ by 10%. we are falling behind at a time when the globe is _ by 10%. we are falling behind at a time when the globe is warming. i by 10%. we are falling behind at a i time when the globe is warming. the bi est time when the globe is warming. biggest challenge we have, time when the globe is warming. tip; biggest challenge we have, you time when the globe is warming.- biggest challenge we have, you don't need any government subsidies to construct renewables, you can put solar panels in fields, the biggest

challenge people involved in the construction of renewables have is the national grid infrastructure. in parts of the north—west of engen, currently waiting in excess of ten years to get a connection to the grid. you have people who want to develop new review new renewable schemes, they cannot get the electricity... schemes, they cannot get the electricity- - -— electricity... what is the government _ electricity... what is the government doing i electricity... what is the i government doing about electricity... what is the i government doing about it? electricity... what is the - government doing about it? the government _ government doing about it? tue: government needs to focus investment and move away from subsidising other things in the energy industry and focus on grid infrastructure because it is letting our country down. you sa it is it is letting our country down. you say it is letting — it is letting our country down. you say it is letting our— it is letting our country down. you say it is letting our country down. it is. , ., , , , ., it is. the problem is your colleagues _ it is. the problem is your colleagues whenever i it is. the problem is your i colleagues whenever there is... it is. the problem is your _ colleagues whenever there is... the environment secretary herself, petition from the local community saying, not in my back yard. what would your message beta colleagues who are holding up locally? it is who are holding up locally? it is not a crime _ who are holding up locally? it is not a crime to _ who are holding up locally? if 3 not a crime to defend the

who are holding up locally? if 1 not a crime to defend the views who are holding up locally? it 1 not a crime to defend the views of your constituents and i do it with pride for mine. it seems to me in relation to renewable energy the planning system is completely outdated. another example, to put solar panels on the roof of your home, it requires a planning application. absolutely nonsense. that should be what we call permitted development, the sort of what you can undertake on your own home without the expense, cost and time of getting a stand—alone planning application. what is needed to achieve net zero, among other things, reasonable updating of the planning system so those who want to invest in their home particularly can come forward with energy saving measures in a timely and affordable way. measures in a timely and affordable wa . , ., , measures in a timely and affordable way. sometimes really difficult, if ou have way. sometimes really difficult, if you have got _ way. sometimes really difficult, if you have got anything _ way. sometimes really difficult, if you have got anything like - way. sometimes really difficult, if you have got anything like the - way. sometimes really difficult, if| you have got anything like the kind of resource to put in a heat pump, thousands of pounds, you need space, green levies going on to everyone's bills, the costs... the government is in a tricky spot, they want to get on with this, but it is very expensive and people are hard up and

taxes are at historic highs. it will take time- _ taxes are at historic highs. it will take time. we _ taxes are at historic highs. it will take time. we did _ taxes are at historic highs. it will take time. we did not _ taxes are at historic highs. it will take time. we did not plan - take time. we did not plan transition _ take time. we did not plan transition properly. - take time. we did not plan transition properly. we - take time. we did not plan| transition properly. we got take time. we did not plan- transition properly. we got rid of -as transition properly. we got rid of gas storage _ transition properly. we got rid of gas storage too _ transition properly. we got rid of gas storage too early _ transition properly. we got rid of gas storage too early which - transition properly. we got rid of gas storage too early which is . transition properly. we got rid ofl gas storage too early which is why when _ gas storage too early which is why when everyone _ gas storage too early which is why when everyone goes _ gas storage too early which is why when everyone goes on _ gas storage too early which is why when everyone goes on social - gas storage too early which is why. when everyone goes on social media and says. _ when everyone goes on social media and says. the — when everyone goes on social media and says. the spot _ when everyone goes on social media and says, the spot rate... _ when everyone goes on social media and says, the spot rate... it - when everyone goes on social media and says, the spot rate... it does i and says, the spot rate... it does not matter. — and says, the spot rate... it does not matter. we _ and says, the spot rate... it does not matter, we have _ and says, the spot rate... it does not matter, we have got - and says, the spot rate... it does not matter, we have got no - and says, the spot rate... it does i not matter, we have got no storage. like you're _ not matter, we have got no storage. like you're suggesting _ not matter, we have got no storage. like you're suggesting people - not matter, we have got no storage. like you're suggesting people on - like you're suggesting people on twitter— like you're suggesting people on twitter like — like you're suggesting people on twitter like to _ like you're suggesting people on twitter like to be _ like you're suggesting people on twitter like to be smart... - like you're suggesting people on twitter like to be smart... it - like you're suggesting people oni twitter like to be smart... it does not work— twitter like to be smart... it does not work the _ twitter like to be smart... it does not work the way _ twitter like to be smart... it does not work the way people - twitter like to be smart... it does not work the way people think. i twitter like to be smart... it does. not work the way people think. the answer— not work the way people think. the answer was — not work the way people think. the answer was clear— not work the way people think. the answer was clear to _ not work the way people think. the answer was clear to my— answer was clear to my question. no, they will— answer was clear to my question. no, they will not _ answer was clear to my question. no, they will not be — answer was clear to my question. no, they will not be any— answer was clear to my question. no, they will not be any help. _ answer was clear to my question. no, they will not be any help. nice - they will not be any help. nice after— they will not be any help. nice after your— they will not be any help. nice after your questions— they will not be any help. nice after your questions on- they will not be any help. nice i after your questions on sewage they will not be any help. nice . after your questions on sewage to finaiiy— after your questions on sewage to finally be — after your questions on sewage to finally be answered _ after your questions on sewage to finally be answered accurately- after your questions on sewage to finally be answered accurately it l finally be answered accurately it was a _ finally be answered accurately it was a politician _ finally be answered accurately it was a politician definitely - finally be answered accurately it| was a politician definitely talking crao _ crap. we privatised water but with no competition _ crap. we privatised water but with no competition. privatisation - no competition. privatisation without— no competition. privatisation without competition, - no competition. privatisation i without competition, regulatory capture — without competition, regulatory capture the _ without competition, regulatory capture. the regulators- without competition, regulatory capture. the regulators are - without competition, regulatory capture. the regulators are not| capture. the regulators are not working — capture. the regulators are not working well— capture. the regulators are not working well enough _ capture. the regulators are not working well enough and - capture. the regulators are not working well enough and we i capture. the regulators are not| working well enough and we are capture. the regulators are not. working well enough and we are in the position— working well enough and we are in the position we _ working well enough and we are in the position we are _ working well enough and we are in the position we are in. _ working well enough and we are in the position we are in. worst - working well enough and we are in the position we are in. worst of. the position we are in. worst of itoth_ the position we are in. worst of both words— the position we are in. worst of both words macro _ the position we are in. worst of both words macro worlds. - the position we are in. worst of both words macro worlds. we l the position we are in. worst of both words macro worlds. we have one water company — both words macro worlds. we have one water company still _ both words macro worlds. we have one water company still owned _ both words macro worlds. we have one water company still owned by - both words macro worlds. we have one water company still owned by the - water company still owned by the public, welsh water —— the worst of both worlds. we have some of the

worst pollution of rivers in england and wales there. whether they are private companies... the and wales there. whether they are private companies. . ._ private companies... the way the water industry — private companies... the way the water industry works _ private companies... the way the water industry works is _ private companies... the way the water industry works is a - private companies... the way the water industry works is a good i water industry works is a good thing? — water industry works is a good thing? are _ water industry works is a good thing? are you _ water industry works is a good thing? are you trying - water industry works is a good thing? are you trying to - water industry works is a good| thing? are you trying to cherry water industry works is a good - thing? are you trying to cherry pick one example? _ thing? are you trying to cherry pick one example? what _ thing? are you trying to cherry pick one example? what was _ thing? are you trying to cherry pick one example? what was the - thing? are you trying to cherry pickl one example? what was the benefit thing? are you trying to cherry pick- one example? what was the benefit of privatisation _ one example? what was the benefit of privatisation without _ one example? what was the benefit of privatisation without competition? - privatisation without competition? do we _ privatisation without competition? do we have — privatisation without competition? do we have regulatory... - privatisation without competition? do we have regulatory... is - privatisation without competition? do we have regulatory... is a - privatisation without competition? do we have regulatory... is a that| do we have regulatory... is a that governnient's_ do we have regulatory... is a that government's felt— do we have regulatory... is a that government's felt or— do we have regulatory... is a that government's felt or the - do we have regulatory... is a that . government's felt or the regulator? you say— government's felt or the regulator? you say advertise _ government's felt or the regulator? you say advertise asian _ government's felt or the regulator? you say advertise asian is _ government's felt or the regulator? you say advertise asian is a - government's felt or the regulator? you say advertise asian is a bad - you say advertise asian is a bad thing and has led to a lack of investment —— privatisation is a bad thing. i investment -- privatisation is a bad thin. ., investment -- privatisation is a bad thing. i said we had privatisation without competition _ thing. i said we had privatisation without competition which - thing. i said we had privatisation| without competition which seems thing. i said we had privatisation . without competition which seems to be the _ without competition which seems to be the worst— without competition which seems to be the worst of— without competition which seems to be the worst of both _ without competition which seems to be the worst of both worlds, - without competition which seems to be the worst of both worlds, why. without competition which seems to| be the worst of both worlds, why did we do _ be the worst of both worlds, why did we do one _ be the worst of both worlds, why did we do one without _ be the worst of both worlds, why did we do one without the _ be the worst of both worlds, why did we do one without the other? - be the worst of both worlds, why did we do one without the other? you i we do one without the other? you have _ we do one without the other? you have to _ we do one without the other? you have to have — we do one without the other? you have to have competition - we do one without the other? you have to have competition to - we do one without the other? you have to have competition to make we do one without the other? you - have to have competition to make the markets _ have to have competition to make the markets work — have to have competition to make the markets work or — have to have competition to make the markets work or you _ have to have competition to make the markets work or you have _ have to have competition to make the markets work or you have regulation. | markets work or you have regulation. bil markets work or you have regulation. big ideological— markets work or you have regulation. big ideological debate _ markets work or you have regulation. big ideological debate we _ markets work or you have regulation. big ideological debate we do - markets work or you have regulation. big ideological debate we do not - big ideological debate we do not have a huge amount of time for on a sunday morning. have a huge amount of time for on a sunday morning-— sunday morning. extend the programme- _

sunday morning. extend the programme. two _ sunday morning. extend the programme. two hours - sunday morning. extend the| programme. two hours every sunday morning. extend the - programme. two hours every sunday, that would be — programme. two hours every sunday, that would be great. _ programme. two hours every sunday, that would be great. i _ programme. two hours every sunday, that would be great. i want _ programme. two hours every sunday, that would be great. i want to - programme. two hours every sunday, that would be great. i want to ask - that would be great. i want to ask you about something else, fatima. arnold schwarzenegger was talking about governments getting on with us and a message for people in the environment campaigning, let us have a look at you and what happened. people who go into work every day, those _ people who go into work every day, those are _ people who go into work every day, those are the people whose side we need to— those are the people whose side we need to be — those are the people whose side we need to be on. shouting you on the edge of the pictures being bundled out by security after you heckled liz truss running to become prime minister. i am glad you laughed when you saw the pictures rather than got up and left the room. one of the things... i did rather than got up and left the room. one of the things. .. i did it with conviction. _ room. one of the things. .. i did it with conviction. arnold _ with conviction. arnold schwarzenegger - with conviction. arnold schwarzenegger says l with conviction. arnold i schwarzenegger says the environmental movement has to get with the programme by not blocking, not disrupting, and instead trying to look to the future with a

positive message of building, what do you say? a lot of viewers get hacked off macro when you have protesters in the street, doing a slow walk holding up traffic. protesters are on the street because there _ protesters are on the street because there is— protesters are on the street because there is a _ protesters are on the street because there is a lack— protesters are on the street because there is a lack of— protesters are on the street because there is a lack of action _ protesters are on the street because there is a lack of action and - there is a lack of action and building _ there is a lack of action and building i— there is a lack of action and building. i don't _ there is a lack of action and building. i don't know- there is a lack of action and building. i don't know what| there is a lack of action and - building. i don't know what context he is _ building. i don't know what context he is talking — building. i don't know what context he is talking about. _ building. i don't know what context he is talking about. in _ building. i don't know what context he is talking about. in the - building. i don't know what context he is talking about. in the uk - building. i don't know what context he is talking about. in the uk it- building. i don't know what context he is talking about. in the uk it is. he is talking about. in the uk it is a fringe _ he is talking about. in the uk it is a fringe issue _ he is talking about. in the uk it is a fringe issue environmentalistsl he is talking about. in the uk it is. a fringe issue environmentalists are holding _ a fringe issue environmentalists are holding back— a fringe issue environmentalists are holding back planning. _ a fringe issue environmentalists are holding back planning. we - a fringe issue environmentalists are holding back planning. we do - a fringe issue environmentalists are holding back planning. we do needl a fringe issue environmentalists are i holding back planning. we do need to build _ holding back planning. we do need to build we _ holding back planning. we do need to build we need — holding back planning. we do need to build. we need to _ holding back planning. we do need to build. we need to invest. _ holding back planning. we do need to build. we need to invest. we - holding back planning. we do need to build. we need to invest. we need i holding back planning. we do need to build. we need to invest. we need an industrial— build. we need to invest. we need an industrial strategy— build. we need to invest. we need an industrial strategy creating _ industrial strategy creating billions _ industrial strategy creating billions of _ industrial strategy creating billions of green _ industrial strategy creating billions of green jobs - industrial strategy creating billions of green jobs for l industrial strategy creating - billions of green jobs for british people — billions of green jobs for british people to — billions of green jobs for british people to manufacture - billions of green jobs for british - people to manufacture renewables, to warm our— people to manufacture renewables, to warm our homes, _ people to manufacture renewables, to warm our homes, we _ people to manufacture renewables, to warm our homes, we need _ people to manufacture renewables, to warm our homes, we need an - people to manufacture renewables, to warm our homes, we need an army. people to manufacture renewables, to warm our homes, we need an army of| warm our homes, we need an army of people _ warm our homes, we need an army of people and _ warm our homes, we need an army of people and communities _ warm our homes, we need an army of people and communities retrofitting l people and communities retrofitting homes _ people and communities retrofitting homes so _ people and communities retrofitting homes so we — people and communities retrofitting homes so we can— people and communities retrofitting homes so we can live _ people and communities retrofitting homes so we can live in _ people and communities retrofitting homes so we can live in warm - people and communities retrofitting . homes so we can live in warm homes, bring _ homes so we can live in warm homes, bring down _ homes so we can live in warm homes, bring down energy— homes so we can live in warm homes, bring down energy bills, _ homes so we can live in warm homes, bring down energy bills, contrary- homes so we can live in warm homes, bring down energy bills, contrary to l bring down energy bills, contrary to the climate — bring down energy bills, contrary to the climate crisis. _ bring down energy bills, contrary to the climate crisis.— the climate crisis. what do you say to viewers who _ the climate crisis. what do you say to viewers who have _ the climate crisis. what do you say to viewers who have been - the climate crisis. what do you say to viewers who have been held - the climate crisis. what do you say to viewers who have been held up, frustrated because they was a big just stop oil protest, watching the snooker, got disrupted? i was quite a lot of support _ snooker, got disrupted? i was quite a lot of support for _ snooker, got disrupted? i was quite a lot of support for these _ a lot of support for these activists _ a lot of support for these activists. i— a lot of support for these activists. i think- a lot of support for these i activists. i think politicians a lot of support for these - activists. i think politicians will have _ activists. i think politicians will have us— activists. i think politicians will have us believe _ activists. i think politicians will have us believe the _ activists. i think politicians will have us believe the public- activists. i think politicians will have us believe the public arel activists. i think politicians will - have us believe the public are upset with protests —

have us believe the public are upset with protests but _ have us believe the public are upset with protests but the _ have us believe the public are upset with protests but the vast _ have us believe the public are upset with protests but the vast majority i with protests but the vast majority of people — with protests but the vast majority of people want _ with protests but the vast majority of people want climate _ with protests but the vast majority of people want climate action, - with protests but the vast majorityl of people want climate action, they want the _ of people want climate action, they want the government _ of people want climate action, they want the government to _ of people want climate action, they want the government to do - of people want climate action, they want the government to do more . of people want climate action, they. want the government to do more and support— want the government to do more and support processes _ want the government to do more and support processes and _ want the government to do more and support processes and young - want the government to do more and support processes and young people | support processes and young people fighting _ support processes and young people fighting for— support processes and young people fighting for their— support processes and young people fighting for their futures _ support processes and young people fighting for their futures —— - fighting for their futures —— support_ fighting for their futures —— support protesters. - fighting for their futures -- support protesters. interesting conversation. _ support protesters. interesting conversation. there _ support protesters. interesting conversation. there is - support protesters. interesting conversation. there is real- support protesters. interesting - conversation. there is real concern about the environment and all sorts of ways, energy bills, getting renewables built, just think of the green success at the council elections a couple of weeks ago, may be rising up the political rails. but what is happening in the nhs always has so much sway. labour is promising new ideas coming tomorrow. let us talk to the man who wants to be the next health secretary for labour, wes streeting, from sheffield, god's county. you are suggesting regional waiting lists as an idea. instead of going on the list at a specific hospital, you go on a list for an area. the king's fund who know a thing or two about health say the evidence for the idea is next and inconclusive.

it's under a number of proposals that keir starmer will be setting up tomorrow. —— it's one of a number of proposals. this has been tried in west yorkshire and given to patients real choice, because notionally patients have a choice about where they are seen but lots of people don't know that and lots of people don't know that and lots of people don't feel the freedom to exercise that choice. what we have seen in west yorkshire has been hospitals working together, to deliver maximum efficiency against the backdrop of understaffing and under resourced and in the nhs which is making their jobs harder, they are pooling resources and getting the weights down faster. we are having to look at a number of immediate short—term things that can be done to address the crisis we see in the nhs today, as well as the asking fundamental

questions that are about how we build an nhs fit for the future, built to be fit for the next 75 years because the nhs is objectively going to the worst crisis in its history, people are rightly anxious about that but we need a serious plan to build an nhs fit for the future and keir starmer will be outlining labour's approach in a speech tomorrow. {lin outlining labour's approach in a speech tomorrow.— outlining labour's approach in a speech tomorrow. on the idea of a re . ional speech tomorrow. on the idea of a regional list. _ speech tomorrow. on the idea of a regional list, if— speech tomorrow. on the idea of a regional list, if people _ speech tomorrow. on the idea of a regional list, if people have - speech tomorrow. on the idea of a regional list, if people have got. regional list, if people have got relatives who are able to drive them to a different city in their region, fine, that might work ok. but how is that fairfor fine, that might work ok. but how is that fair for those who don't, people who have difficulty getting away from their local community, or want to stick with the doctor and the hospital that they know? the crucial thing _ the hospital that they know? the crucial thing is _ the hospital that they know? he crucial thing is that the hospital that they know? tia: crucial thing is that firstly patients would have the choice, and secondly, that you build more capacity in the system by pooling resources so that we can get through the backlog faster. so everyone wins. notionally, there is choice at the moment, and i think the government said they would lay on taxis for people if they have got far to travel.— taxis for people if they have got

far to travel. in far to travel. would you do that? in reali , far to travel. would you do that? in reality. patients — far to travel. would you do that? in reality, patients aren't _ far to travel. would you do that? in reality, patients aren't aware - far to travel. would you do that? in reality, patients aren't aware of- reality, patients aren't aware of that choice or exercising that choice, they are not aware of that choice. and what we want to do is to look at both what we can do now to bring down the backlog, the waiting lists as quickly as possible, at the same time as taking the right long—term decisions to make sure we have got an nhs fit for the future. on that specific point, wes streeting, if people wanted to go to a nearby hospital or they could not afford or didn't have a relative who could drive them, would labour pay for people to travel around the region to get care quickly? that's the situation _ region to get care quickly? that's the situation as _ region to get care quickly? that's the situation as it _ region to get care quickly? that's the situation as it is _ region to get care quickly? that's the situation as it is today, - region to get care quickly? that's the situation as it is today, and l region to get care quickly? that'sl the situation as it is today, and we wouldn't, no plans to change that. the crucial thing is how we build more capacity in the system which is overstretched. people are really frustrated at the moment with the length of the weights, the struggle to get a gp, appointment, for example, and anyone will tell you who works in the nhs, that it is understaffed, under doctored, and

thatis understaffed, under doctored, and that is where the heart of labour's plans, we have announced the biggest expansion of nhs staff in history so the nhs is the sum of 80 need to get patients treated on time. —— the nhs has the staff it needs to get the patients treated on time. it will take time which is why we need to retain the staff that we have got but it is also about using the stretched resources we have in the nhs in the most efficient way to get people seen as quickly as possible. in a range of conditions, especially things like cancer, timing really matters and the time from diagnosis to treatment is crucial. that's why we have got to build a more capacity in the system. {lin we have got to build a more capacity in the system-— in the system. on the question of resources. _ in the system. on the question of resources. you — in the system. on the question of resources, you are _ in the system. on the question of resources, you are also _ in the system. on the question of resources, you are also saying, i in the system. on the question of i resources, you are also saying, like i think every politician i have ever talked about the health service, that you want to shift more caring to the community. but people don't always want to admit that logical conclusion. if you shift more into the community, are you going to take more money and resources away from hospitals? everybody knows resources

are stretched. if there is more caring community, does that mean less care in hospitals? == caring community, does that mean less care in hospitals?— caring community, does that mean less care in hospitals? -- more care in the community? _ less care in hospitals? -- more care in the community? we _ less care in hospitals? -- more care in the community? we want - less care in hospitals? -- more care in the community? we want to - less care in hospitals? -- more care in the community? we want to see. in the community? we want to see three big shifts tomorrow which we will be talking about. the first is to focus —— shift the focus of health care out of the hospital and into the community... health care out of the hospital and into the community. . ._ health care out of the hospital and into the community... does that mean less resources — into the community... does that mean less resources for _ into the community... does that mean less resources for hospitals? - into the community... does that mean less resources for hospitals? i - less resources for hospitals? i think over time, we want to shift the proportion of spending in our health system. i think as i have said before, when you compare the nhs to other countries in the oecd who have much better outcomes than we have here in the uk, the proportions are very different. we underinvested in primary care, community services, mental health, diagnostics, and capital. and we have got a shift that focus. you have got a shift that focus. you have got a shift that focus. you have got to do it over time. i don't think you will speak to a single

hospital chief exec in the land who say they are awash with cash, this is going to be a difficult year for them. you want to shift that focus. the proof of the pudding is despite the pressure they are under, lots of hospital leaders are doing this. they recognise that the pressure we see in hospitals in part is driven by the clogged front door to the nhs in primary care and community services, as well as delayed discharge and social care, and they are spending their own budgets in those areas within the community because they understand that's how you decongest the system... you mentioned _ you decongest the system... you mentioned social _ you decongest the system... you mentioned social care there, you have promised us before, your social care plan. where is it? unless you publish social care plan alongside all of these ideas that are coming tomorrow, a lot of health experts will think you are putting classes on because fundamentally the problem is social care. when will we see your plans that part of the health service? we your plans that part of the health service? ~ . r' your plans that part of the health service? ~ . ., , ., ,

service? we asked the fabian society kit do some — service? we asked the fabian society kit do some thorough _ service? we asked the fabian society kit do some thorough work _ service? we asked the fabian society kit do some thorough work for - service? we asked the fabian society kit do some thorough work for a... i kit do some thorough work for a... where is it? it kit do some thorough work for a... where is it?— where is it? it is going to be published — where is it? it is going to be published in _ where is it? it is going to be published in june. _ where is it? it is going to be published in june. we - where is it? it is going to be published in june. we have i where is it? it is going to be i published in june. we have got where is it? it is going to be - published in june. we have got to published injune. we have got to deal with the social care workforce pressures, particularly recruitment and retention challenges that come through chronic low pay in that sector which means that social care employers are losing staff or struggling to recruit staff because they have got better paid jobs in retail or other parts of the nhs. that's one part of it. we also want to do more to support people in their own homes, going back to our previous discussion.... we their own homes, going back to our previous discussion. . . ._ their own homes, going back to our previous discussion. . .. we have got date on the — previous discussion. . .. we have got date on the social— previous discussion. . .. we have got date on the social care _ previous discussion. . .. we have got date on the social care plan, - previous discussion. . .. we have got date on the social care plan, we - date on the social care plan, we know it is coming injune. i know you want to stop people getting sick in the first place, that's the last important part of your plan for tomorrow. a lot of people in the medical world will think we have to deal with alcohol because it is a huge cost to the public purse when it comes to public health. when you were president of the national union

of students a long time ago, you backed the idea of minimum prices for alcohol. backed the idea of minimum prices foralcohol. some backed the idea of minimum prices for alcohol. some experts say it has worked well in scotland, would you consider minimum pricing for alcohol if you win the election?— if you win the election? there are a number of — if you win the election? there are a number of things _ if you win the election? there are a number of things we _ if you win the election? there are a number of things we are _ if you win the election? there are a number of things we are looking i if you win the election? there are a number of things we are looking at| number of things we are looking at in relation to prevention measures, public health measures, we want to make sure we are not living longer but living more healthily for longer. —— notjust a living longer but to living more healthily for longer. we want to tackle the social determinants of ill health as well as the factors that impact on things like chronic disease.— like chronic disease. could that be minimum prices _ like chronic disease. could that be minimum prices for _ like chronic disease. could that be minimum prices for booze? - like chronic disease. could that be minimum prices for booze? we i like chronic disease. could that be| minimum prices for booze? we are lookin: at minimum prices for booze? we are looking at a — minimum prices for booze? we are looking at a range _ minimum prices for booze? we are looking at a range of _ minimum prices for booze? we are looking at a range of measures, i minimum prices for booze? we are| looking at a range of measures, i'm not prepared to make any commitments one way or another... but not prepared to make any commitments one way or another. . ._ one way or another... but is that one way or another... but is that one of the _ one way or another... but is that one of the things _ one way or another... but is that one of the things you _ one way or another... but is that one of the things you are - one of the things you are considering? {lin one of the things you are considering? one of the things you are considerin: ? , ., ~ ., considering? on smoking, for example. _ considering? on smoking, for example. we _ considering? on smoking, for example, we have _ considering? on smoking, for example, we have said - considering? on smoking, for example, we have said we i considering? on smoking, for i example, we have said we would go considering? on smoking, for - example, we have said we would go a lot further than the government has, notjust lot further than the government has, not just on lot further than the government has, notjust on smoking but on vaping

where we have a whole generation of children and young people being addicted to nicotine on this government's watch. teachers reporting children showing signs nicotine addiction in the classroom. i think it's outrageous the way that this irresponsible industry has behaved, we will come down like a tonne of bricks in terms of marketing for young people. i want to look at product formulation with the food industry and look at people's diet, i would rather do that without the heavy hand of state intervention, but you see nestle marketing new kit kat serial to children and have the audacity to claim its healthy. i want greater responsibility on behalf of the food and drink industry to how they can help us give people the chance to make healthier choices, better choices, so that we can reduce the incidence of chronic disease. briefly, i must also ask about the

home secretary. what does labour think should happen, briefly, please? think should happen, briefly, lease? ., ., , ., , ,, please? for a start, rishi sunak needs to put — please? for a start, rishi sunak needs to put his _ please? for a start, rishi sunak needs to put his money - please? for a start, rishi sunak needs to put his money where l please? for a start, rishi sunak i needs to put his money where his mouth is and show that he stands up for standards in public life and have an immediate investigation under the ministerial code. i thought his performance at the g7 press conference was astonishing. he read out a statement as if he was a hostage reading of the note written for him by his captors. she has accepted the points, and she is treating me well. what is going on in this government? he should never have appointed her in the first place, he has been too weak to sack herfor place, he has been too weak to sack her for incompetent and now he is so weak, he will not even call an inquiry into her conduct. let's see what happens _ inquiry into her conduct. let's see what happens by _ inquiry into her conduct. let's see what happens by the _ inquiry into her conduct. let's see what happens by the end - inquiry into her conduct. let's see what happens by the end of- inquiry into her conduct. let's see what happens by the end of the i inquiry into her conduct. let's see i what happens by the end of the day. thank you for being with us this morning, wes streeting. no kit kat breakfast cereal if labour wins the next election. interesting that wes streeting does not want to ban things but they might be tempted to do it, would you ban vapours,

breakfast cereal, anything else? politicians? no, very naughty! we need _ politicians? no, very naughty! we need them! we need to bring back politicians— need them! we need to bring back politicians is a respected, trusted 'ob politicians is a respected, trusted job and _ politicians is a respected, trusted job and we — politicians is a respected, trusted job and we need to start by, when politicians — job and we need to start by, when politicians get things wrong, we need _ politicians get things wrong, we need to— politicians get things wrong, we need to go back to the idea that they resign. and we give some credence — they resign. and we give some credence to the institute of politics _ credence to the institute of politics. most politicians i meet, people _ politics. most politicians i meet, people will be surprised, when you meet _ people will be surprised, when you meet them, they are actually well—meaning party who want —— people _ well—meaning party who want —— people who want to do well. do well-meaning party who want -- people who want to do well. do you fan it? people who want to do well. do you fancy it? absolutely _ people who want to do well. do you fancy it? absolutely 10096 - people who want to do well. do you fancy it? absolutely 100% not, - people who want to do well. do you fancy it? absolutely 100% not, i- fancy it? absolutely 100% not, i would rather _ fancy it? absolutely 100% not, i would rather have _ fancy it? absolutely 100% not, i would rather have my _ fancy it? absolutely 100% not, i would rather have my nipples i fancy it? absolutely 100% not, i. would rather have my nipples wired to electrics, and not in a good way. jake just _ to electrics, and not in a good way. jake just muttered, most politicians would pay for that, i didn't want anyone to miss that! i would pay for that, i didn't want anyone to miss that!— would pay for that, i didn't want anyone to miss that! i don't think it's helpful _ anyone to miss that! i don't think it's helpful to _ anyone to miss that! i don't think it's helpful to talk— anyone to miss that! i don't think it's helpful to talk about - anyone to miss that! i don't think it's helpful to talk about what - anyone to miss that! i don't think it's helpful to talk about what we | it's helpful to talk about what we would _ it's helpful to talk about what we would ban — it's helpful to talk about what we would ban when _ it's helpful to talk about what we would ban when we _ it's helpful to talk about what we would ban when we are - it's helpful to talk about what we would ban when we are talking i it's helpful to talk about what we - would ban when we are talking about a national— would ban when we are talking about a national health _

would ban when we are talking about a national health crisis. _ would ban when we are talking about a national health crisis. where - would ban when we are talking about a national health crisis. where is - a national health crisis. where is buried _ a national health crisis. where is buried the — a national health crisis. where is buried the lead, _ a national health crisis. where is buried the lead, where's- a national health crisis. where is buried the lead, where's the - a national health crisis. where is i buried the lead, where's the money for the _ buried the lead, where's the money for the nhs? — buried the lead, where's the money forthe nhs? -- _ buried the lead, where's the money forthe nhs? —— wes— buried the lead, where's the money for the nhs? —— wes streeting - buried the lead, where's the money. for the nhs? —— wes streeting buried the lead _ for the nhs? —— wes streeting buried the lead they— for the nhs? —— wes streeting buried the lead. they have _ for the nhs? —— wes streeting buried the lead. they have had _ for the nhs? —— wes streeting buried the lead. they have had chronic- the lead. they have had chronic under— the lead. they have had chronic under funding _ the lead. they have had chronic underfunding for— the lead. they have had chronic underfunding forthe— the lead. they have had chronic under funding for the last - the lead. they have had chronic under funding for the last few. under funding for the last few years. — under funding for the last few years. we _ under funding for the last few years, we need _ under funding for the last few years, we need a _ under funding for the last few years, we need a cash- under funding for the last few years, we need a cash boost, | under funding for the last few. years, we need a cash boost, we need a settlement— years, we need a cash boost, we need a settlement for— years, we need a cash boost, we need a settlement for doctors _ years, we need a cash boost, we need a settlement for doctors and - years, we need a cash boost, we need a settlement for doctors and nurses i a settlement for doctors and nurses so they— a settlement for doctors and nurses so they say— a settlement for doctors and nurses so they say in — a settlement for doctors and nurses so they say in the _ a settlement for doctors and nurses so they say in the health _ a settlement for doctors and nurses so they say in the health care - so they say in the health care system, _ so they say in the health care system, so _ so they say in the health care system, so that _ so they say in the health care system, so that they - so they say in the health care system, so that they can - so they say in the health care system, so that they can be i so they say in the health care - system, so that they can be provided to service _ system, so that they can be provided to service and — system, so that they can be provided to service and care _ system, so that they can be provided to service and care that _ system, so that they can be provided to service and care that they- system, so that they can be provided to service and care that they want - to service and care that they want to. to service and care that they want to prevention— to service and care that they want to. prevention and _ to service and care that they want to. prevention and reformation i to service and care that they want to. prevention and reformation is| to. prevention and reformation is really— to. prevention and reformation is really key— to. prevention and reformation is really key part _ to. prevention and reformation is really key part of— to. prevention and reformation is really key part of how _ to. prevention and reformation is really key part of how we - to. prevention and reformation is really key part of how we protect| really key part of how we protect the nhs, — really key part of how we protect the nhs, the _ really key part of how we protect the nhs, the other— really key part of how we protect the nhs, the other half- really key part of how we protect the nhs, the other half is- the nhs, the other half is investment. _ the nhs, the other half is investment.— the nhs, the other half is investment. ., , ., investment. on social care, you asked that _ investment. on social care, you asked that question, _ investment. on social care, you asked that question, my - investment. on social care, you asked that question, my heart i investment. on social care, you - asked that question, my heart always thinks when i hear about social care. the truth is, no one party is going to fix a social care. it's too long—term an issue. we need a long—term an issue. we need a long—term plan which restructures society. we actually need cross—party agreement with what we do with social care. irate cross-party agreement with what we do with social care.— do with social care. we tried, and it all turns _ do with social care. we tried, and it all turns into _ do with social care. we tried, and it all turns into a _ do with social care. we tried, and it all turns into a screaming - do with social care. we tried, and i it all turns into a screaming match. it is a failure of all politics, we need a 20 year solution. irate it is a failure of all politics, we need a 20 year solution. we need a national care _ need a 20 year solution. we need a national care service, _ need a 20 year solution. we need a national care service, we _ need a 20 year solution. we need a national care service, we have - need a 20 year solution. we need a| national care service, we have spent too much _ national care service, we have spent too much money on private care. we

will have too much money on private care. will have a too much money on private care. - will have a discussion injune when the labour party comes up with a plan. what would you ban, conservatives would not like banning things, what would you ban? i would ban --eole things, what would you ban? i would ban people listening _ things, what would you ban? i would ban people listening to _ things, what would you ban? ! would ban people listening to keir- ban people listening to keir starmer's _ ban people listening to keir starmer's speech— ban people listening to keirl starmer's speech tomorrow. ban people listening to keir- starmer's speech tomorrow. what ban people listening to keir— starmer's speech tomorrow. what are they going _ starmer's speech tomorrow. what are they going to — starmer's speech tomorrow. what are they going to do? _ starmer's speech tomorrow. what are they going to do? take _ starmer's speech tomorrow. what are they going to do? take a _ starmer's speech tomorrow. what are they going to do? take a pilot- starmer's speech tomorrow. what are they going to do? take a pilot is- they going to do? take a pilot is that conservatives _ they going to do? take a pilot is that conservatives have - they going to do? take a pilot is that conservatives have had - they going to do? take a pilot is that conservatives have had in. they going to do? take a pilot is- that conservatives have had in west yorkshire _ that conservatives have had in west yorkshire which _ that conservatives have had in west yorkshire which is _ that conservatives have had in west yorkshire which is working - that conservatives have had in west yorkshire which is working and - that conservatives have had in west yorkshire which is working and do i yorkshire which is working and do more _ yorkshire which is working and do more of— yorkshire which is working and do more of that, _ yorkshire which is working and do more of that, their— yorkshire which is working and do more of that, their plan _ yorkshire which is working and do more of that, their plan is - yorkshire which is working and do more of that, their plan is to- yorkshire which is working and do more of that, their plan is to do. more of that, their plan is to do more _ more of that, their plan is to do more of— more of that, their plan is to do more of the _ more of that, their plan is to do more of the conservative - more of that, their plan is to do more of the conservative party, sow _ more of the conservative party, so... �* , , ., ., ., so... i'm sure they would not agree with that. so. .. i'm sure they would not agree with that. labour— so... i'm sure they would not agree with that. labour should _ so... i'm sure they would not agree with that. labour should find - so... i'm sure they would not agree with that. labour should find the i with that. labour should find the mone in with that. labour should find the money in the _ with that. labour should find the money in the next _ with that. labour should find the money in the next 24 _ with that. labour should find the money in the next 24 hours. - with that. labour should find the money in the next 24 hours. thej money in the next 24 hours. the answer is _ money in the next 24 hours. the answer is not — money in the next 24 hours. the answer is not more _ money in the next 24 hours. the answer is not more and more money into the _ answer is not more and more money into the nhs— answer is not more and more money into the nhs because _ answer is not more and more money into the nhs because we _ answer is not more and more money into the nhs because we are - answer is not more and more money into the nhs because we are puttingj into the nhs because we are putting a record _ into the nhs because we are putting a record amount _ into the nhs because we are putting a record amount of— into the nhs because we are putting a record amount of money _ into the nhs because we are putting a record amount of money in - into the nhs because we are putting a record amount of money in there. i a record amount of money in there. you guys _ a record amount of money in there. you guys can— a record amount of money in there. you guys can carry _ a record amount of money in there. you guys can carry this _ a record amount of money in there. you guys can carry this on - a record amount of money in there. you guys can carry this on once - you guys can carry this on once we're out of the studio, it has been such a lively quick final word? that

is the worst _ such a lively quick final word? that is the worst bit _ such a lively quick final word? that is the worst bit of— such a lively quick final word? trust is the worst bit of politics, instead of working together, they throw brickbats at each other. there are no new — throw brickbats at each other. there are no new ideas. _ throw brickbats at each other. there are no new ideas. you _ throw brickbats at each other. there are no new ideas. you are _ throw brickbats at each other. there are no new ideas. you are making i throw brickbats at each other. there are no new ideas. you are making it| are no new ideas. you are making it neaative, are no new ideas. you are making it negative, because _ are no new ideas. you are making it negative, because you _ are no new ideas. you are making it negative, because you should - are no new ideas. you are making it negative, because you should say, i negative, because you should say, they are _ negative, because you should say, they are great ideas, let's work together— they are great ideas, let's work together than them.— together than them. brickbats erha -s together than them. brickbats perhaps but — together than them. brickbats perhaps but charmingly - together than them. brickbats i perhaps but charmingly delivered together than them. brickbats - perhaps but charmingly delivered by all of you. thank you so much to my whole panel, fatima ibrahimi, martinelli's and jake terry. —— martinelli's and jake terry. -- margaret martin jake berry. the ideas of politicians can be knocked off even if temporarily by short—term political nightmares. how the prime minister might address the dilemma of the home secretary's behaviour, wrangling world leaders or the complaints of restless colleagues. that's all before immigration figures that are coming this week which are expected to be at record

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live from london. this is bbc news. as the g7 summit wraps up, president biden announces a new package of military aid for ukraine, including ammunition, artillery and armoured vehicles. in the meantime, a spokesperson for the ukrainian president says that mr zelensky has not confirmed the capture of the eastern city of bakhmut by russia. greek voters head to the polls for the country's parliamentary elections. hello. the us president, joe biden, has announced a new package of military aid for ukraine, including ammunition, artillery and armoured vehicles.