tv Newsnight BBC News May 23, 2023 10:30pm-11:11pm BST
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the like an avocado or mango and the high is to the north of that. thicker cloud and bits of rain to scotland and northern ireland but the vast majority will have clear skies. most city centres between seven and nine but colder in the glens of scotland, possibly down to two celsius. chile first thing. the weather front, two celsius. chile first thing. the weatherfront, notice how it two celsius. chile first thing. the weather front, notice how it slows down as it rides into this area of high pressure. a bit of cloud for northern ireland, scotland, some spots of rain and lots of sunshine to the north of scotland and to the south across england. whoops also worthy of note is the strength of the sun. you may burn, in may the sun is very strong. this is the area of high pressure for the next few days. what happen is it will change its shape. the wind direction will flow around the uk in different ways and it looks like it will drag in a
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little bit of cloud off the north sea, particularly into central and eastern england over thursday. not necessarily sunny all the time was that the outlook for the next few days, beautifully glasgow and belfast. plymouth, sunshine. the tourist board will be thanking me. and in cambridge it's not looking bad at all. temperatures up to the low 20s. we are all off to plymouth! thanks, tomasz. that's it. there's more analysis of the day's main stories on newsnight with kirsty wark, just getting under way over on bbc two. but the news continues here on bbc one, as wejoin our colleagues across the nations and regions for the news where you are. have a very good night. the city of bakhmut — we have a special report from another besieged town in the same province. and we'll try to get to the truth of russian claims that it has stopped a ukrainian incursion into the russia area of belgorod, killing seventy so called insurgents.
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we'll bejoined by a ukranian mp and a senior fellow at the atlantic council. also tonight. borisjohnson has been referred to both the met and thames valley police over more potential breaches to the covid rules. his supporters say its a politically motivated stitch—up and that the world has moved on. how damaging would be be if he is found to have broken the rules again? and as cctv emerges that suggests the cardiff police were following the two teenaged boys on an e—bike who later died in a crash, something the police had denied, we assess the mood in the ely area of the city. good evening. the war in ukraine is about to enter its 16th month — with an increasingly cloudy picture of some aspects of what is happening. the big picture is of a country re—armed ahead of an expected spring counter—offensive — but some developments in recent days
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have suggested forward momentum, of sorts, for vladimir putin. the russian mercenary group wagner has claimed control of the long besieged city of bakhmut — with its leader vowing to transfer control to moscow by earlyjune. but kyiv says its forces remain present in some parts of the city. elsewhere, there is an allegation a group of pro—ukrainian russians crossed the border into the russian belgorod region in attack on russia soil. russia says it was an incursion by armed ukrainian insurgents, 70 of whom they have killed. but what is the truth of belgorod? our colleagues at bbc verify have been studying maps and data, and we'll hear from them in a few minutes, but first newsnight has been filming in an another front line ukrainian city, in avdiika, in donetsk region, just 70 kilometres from bakhmut, which if it falls, has implications for the russian advance in the region. like bakhmut, avdiika is a place all but destroyed by relentless russian bombing, but where two men risk their lives every day to get food and aid
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to the few hundred belguered residents who refuse to leave. here's jack losh's extended report. in ukraine's eastern battlefields, the town of avdiika is under siege. below ground, locals tune into the news from their bomb shelter. as the russian army attempts to encircle avdiivka, ukrainian troops are battling to cling on until their summer counter—offensive begins. amid the siege, two local men are keeping the town's civilian
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in these difficult periods. because igor is very positive. joking every time. even in difficult situation. and this really helps to believe that we will survive. dodging russian bombs on the way into avdiivka each day is bad enough. having to do it in an old banger that seems to break down every other day, even worse. igor and alexey are the last link
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in a chain of international aid that stretches all the way back to western europe. humanitarian supplies are transported across ukraine, then stored at this warehouse just outside of avdiivka. the last leg is down to them — running the final gauntlet to get the crucial cargo to where it's needed most. but it doesn't always go to plan. a stray shell could land at any moment. this is not the place you want to get stuck.
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soldiers, aid runners united by a common cause. then back on the road. shelled every day, this final stretch in is the most dangerous. but once inside the town, the firstjob is to drop off the aid before the next bombardment. this is a policeman from western ukraine, almost 1000 kilometres away, deployed to help the people in this front line town.
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despite the horror, there is one place left in avdiivka that allows people to feel human again, if only for a few hours. in a basement beneath a damaged building, igorand his team of local volunteers run an underground aid hub. here you can have a hot meal, wash your clothes, charge your phone. the simple things, no
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with 70 of the so called "insurgents" killed. vitaliy shevchenko from bbc monitoring and bbc verify is here. vitaliy — what have bbc verify been able to confirm about what happened 7 we have seen a lot of content claiming to be from that area. the easiest videos to verify are from a border post on the border between russia and ukraine. these videos such as this one appear to show military vehicles such as the tank entering the russian border post. these videos came from where? 0nline and social media. here we see what appears to be an american donated vehicle and this is what looks like
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insurgents wearing yellow tape of the type worn by ukraine military and this was published by the russian defence ministry apparently showing them targeting their own border post. he was the aftermath,. so the russians are targeting their own border post because they say these vehicles are from the states? 0nce used by the so—called insurgents which have entered russia. so what do we not know? we do not know how many people have been involved, how many so—called insurgents. we do not know how many of them survived and where they are, how linked they are to ukrainian military. because the kind of equipment they have been using it is true that they have been using humvees, it is not the kind of kit
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that you can get easily. and also there is a lot of speculation about there is a lot of speculation about the objectives of this operation. it is possible that they tried to expose russian vulnerabilities and try to so chaos and panic amongst the russian population and also it cannot be ruled out that this is a distraction than ever while drawing all this attention and russian military resource to belogord ukraine conceivably can hit elsewhere.— ukraine conceivably can hit elsewhere. �* , ~ ., elsewhere. but if it is ukraine insurgents — elsewhere. but if it is ukraine insurgents and _ elsewhere. but if it is ukraine insurgents and ukraine - elsewhere. but if it is ukraine insurgents and ukraine deny i elsewhere. but if it is ukraine - insurgents and ukraine deny that, there's no chance that volodymyr zelensky does not know about it? it's extremely unlikely given the kind of equipment that they've been using and also you cannotjust cross the border with russia that easily. thank you very much.
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and now i'm joined by melinda haring, senior fellow at the atlantic council of us, who is in washington dc. and ukrainian mp inna sovsun, who is in kyiv. melinda, you heard what was said they are, what do you think has gone on in belogord? flarer they are, what do you think has gone on in belogord?— on in belogord? over the past two da s on in belogord? over the past two days we've — on in belogord? over the past two days we've seen — on in belogord? over the past two days we've seen about _ on in belogord? over the past two days we've seen about 300 - days we've seen about 300 insurgents, they are russian nationals who do not like vladimir putin from different militia groups entering russia and trying to take over a couple of villages and also drone attacks on the city of belgrade. there are many unanswered questions but at this point it looks like insurgents have lost but they did lose quite a bit of kit and that was humvees and quite a bit of heavy duty stuff. 50 was humvees and quite a bit of heavy du stuff. , ., , ., duty stuff. so your view is that these are _
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duty stuff. so your view is that these are russians _ duty stuff. so your view is that these are russians acting - duty stuff. so your view is that these are russians acting in i duty stuff. so your view is that - these are russians acting in support of ukraine? , ., ., , , ., of ukraine? these two groups have taken credit — of ukraine? these two groups have taken credit for _ of ukraine? these two groups have taken credit for the _ of ukraine? these two groups have taken credit for the incursion. - of ukraine? these two groups have taken credit for the incursion. the | taken credit for the incursion. the ukrainian government denies they were involved, they put out a clever response and said we are studying it and watching it closely and then they trailed the russians saying russian tanks are available at any store and it is the same kind of language we saw back in 2014 when russia took over crimea. so the russian side is going crazy and are surprised by what happened in belogord. but surprised by what happened in belouord. �* ., i. surprised by what happened in belouord. �* ., ,, ~' surprised by what happened in belouord. �* ., ,, ~ , belogord. but do you think there is now a change _ belogord. but do you think there is now a change of— belogord. but do you think there is now a change of tactic _ belogord. but do you think there is now a change of tactic from - now a change of tactic from volodymyr zelensky? we are expecting this long—awaited spring counteroffensive but what a on russian soul, were they not make right... would attacks on russian soil not make nato nervous? there will be some _ soil not make nato nervous? there will be some difficult _ will be some difficult
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conversations. the acquaintance of sad that they were not behind it and these are russian groups that have been fighting on the side of the ukrainians in the donbas region. so i need we need more answers before we jump to a conclusion. but the broader point is that putin was caught with his pants down and this is a warning that russians are not safe and the same kind of tactics that affect ukrainian civilians in the last 16 months i now happening in russia itself.— in russia itself. before i turned to art ukrainian _ in russia itself. before i turned to art ukrainian nupe, _ in russia itself. before i turned to art ukrainian nupe, in _ in russia itself. before i turned to art ukrainian nupe, in terms - in russia itself. before i turned to art ukrainian nupe, in terms of i in russia itself. before i turned to l art ukrainian nupe, in terms of this spring counteroffensive will be see a dramatic counteroffensive or will it be different this time? i a dramatic counteroffensive or will it be different this time?— it be different this time? i cannot look into my _ it be different this time? i cannot look into my crystal _ it be different this time? i cannot look into my crystal ball- it be different this time? i cannot look into my crystal ball but - it be different this time? i cannot look into my crystal ball but the l look into my crystal ball but the crane inside to send you not expect to see the same kind of games that we had last year when we had dramatic gains in the north and south. they are trying to keep
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expectations lower than before. but yes the ukrainian side is ready to go and has many vehicles and heavy equipment but there's not a lot of low hanging fruit to retake so it is going to be hard—fought. inna going to be hard-fought. inna sovsun, tell _ going to be hard-fought. inna sovsun, tell me _ going to be hard-fought. inna sovsun, tell me do _ going to be hard-fought. inna sovsun, tell me do you - going to be hard—fought. inna sovsun, tell me do you still categorically deny russian claims that it was ukrainian insurgents who attacked in belogord? i that it was ukrainian insurgents who attacked in belogord?— attacked in belogord? i have been listenin: attacked in belogord? i have been listening and _ attacked in belogord? i have been listening and reading _ attacked in belogord? i have been listening and reading russian - attacked in belogord? i have been i listening and reading russian media for the past 24, 36 hours since it started and they have not, there have been given names of people they say that or killed during these battles. and every single person the russian social media show to be one of the insurgents that they killed or captured when russian nationals. even russian social media. so they would claim many of them came to ukraine in 2014 after russia
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attacked ukraine in the beginning but they have not given a single name of the ukrainian national that they claim to have killed or captured in the belogord region. so thatis captured in the belogord region. so that is as much information as i can get from open sources and of course thatis get from open sources and of course that is the ukrainian official position but i was also trying to find additional confirmation number shall social media and could not find a single month that they were ukrainians. but find a single month that they were ukrainians. �* ., , ., ~' find a single month that they were ukrainians. �* ., , ., ~ , ukrainians. but do you think it is art of ukrainians. but do you think it is part of zelensky _ ukrainians. but do you think it is part of zelensky was _ ukrainians. but do you think it is part of zelensky was my - ukrainians. but do you think it is part of zelensky was my plan - ukrainians. but do you think it is part of zelensky was my plan to | ukrainians. but do you think it is - part of zelensky was my plan to poke the bear and actually operate at one level or another inside russia? just to add a bit — level or another inside russia? jut to add a bit of a personal comment here, belogord is the reason bordering the kharkiv region which is my native city. the russians have been selling their for 15 months every single day. the majority of
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people have left the city of almost 2 million before. and the idea that there needs to be a demilitarised zone is something that of course is appealing to me. so do we appreciate the effort, yes. can this be an attempt to destabilise the situation in russia and make them question whether they need this war and whether they need this war and whether this is what they were looking for, that makes sense. but again we have no direct connection so far. j again we have no direct connection so far. ., ., ., ., , so far. i do not want to finish without talking _ so far. i do not want to finish without talking a _ so far. i do not want to finish without talking a bit - so far. i do not want to finish without talking a bit about i so far. i do not want to finish l without talking a bit about our so far. i do not want to finish i without talking a bit about our film and these two men are keeping people safe and alive with medicines and food. it is so important not to lose that area strategically but as important in a way is the morale boosting effect of being able to hold onto it in such circumstances?
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yes, indeed. and i very much appreciate what people are doing and very often there is a very unexpected people. i have a good friend of mine who is a scientist and has a phd in physics and that he is delivering humanitarian aid to the east ukraine. i have a friend who is a former policeman who is now helping the military side. there are people from all ways of life, also former students of mine now providing medical help to people in the region. everyone is trying to get involved as much as they can. thank you both very much. borisjohnson has been referred to police over further potential covid rule breaches during the pandemic. the cabinet office has referred the former prime minister to the metropolitan and thames valley police forces, after a review of documents ahead of the covid public inquiry. the documents relate to potential breaches at downing street and chequers betweenjune 2020 and may 2021. boris johnson was fined last year
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for breaking covid rules in 2020, but denies any wrongdoing in this case. and tonight his office hit back, saying "many will conclude that this has all the hallmarks of yet another politically motivated stitch—up." nick is here. nick, take us through this. well tonight boris johnson is well tonight borisjohnson is at war with the cabinet office and at war with the cabinet office and at war with the cabinet office and at war with the government headed by the man he regards as his nemesis, that is rishi sunak. he gave a flavour of the strength of feeling in the last few hours, this statement from boris johnson's office and it says it appears some within government have decided to make unfounded suggestions both to the police and the privileges committee and as you said, many will conclude that this has all the hallmarks of yet another politically motivated stitch up. i understand that borisjohnson is even considering suing the cabinet office. this is because his legal
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advice states that these events were lawful and his lawyers have told the cabinet office and the police that is theirjudgment. there is a suggestion that the cabinet office appears to have suggested in writing that the events were unlawful and if it can be proved the cabinet office said that i think you may well be finding that borisjohnson will be considering all his legal options. this all kicked off as you said when some entries in his official diary were queried by the cabinet office during a sort of opening exercise for the covid inquiry because those diaries showed visits by friends to the official residence of the prime minister, checkers, during the pandemic. that is the view from the cabinet office as they followed the civil service code which says if there are any questions or possible wrongdoing they would have to refer it to the authorities, in this case the police and the police are making
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an assessment. what happens next? the first thing is to the police go further, does it turn into an investigation, which has not happened yet but may delay the commons privileges committee which is carrying out an inquiry into whether boris johnson is carrying out an inquiry into whether borisjohnson misled parliament when he said all the rules were followed in downing street over those parties. and we were due to see that report possibly in the next six weeks or so, is that now going to happen? borisjohnson picked up in a statement saying for whatever political purpose it is plain a last ditch attempt is being made to lengthen the privileges committee investigation as it was coming to a conclusion and and to undermine borisjohnson. france have been out tonight saying that no rules were broken, jacob rees—mogg saying that he went to see him at chequers. the foreign office ain't no rules were broken because the
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meetings were outdoors and secondly those that were not had unlawful exemption because it involved meetings of course with civil servants and advisers. thank you very much- _ well we've spoken to dozens of conservative mps and members of the house of lords tonight, and have asked borisjohnson's team to point us towards supporters who could join us but nobody was available to address this unfolding story. we are joined though by daisy cooper. she's deputy leader of the liberal democrats. so borisjohnson so boris johnson denies so borisjohnson denies any wrongdoing and his lawyers are adamant no rules were broken? j adamant no rules were broken? i think it is outrageous that we are still having to hear this drip feed of allegations about what may or may not have gone on during the partygate era. the fact is boris johnson has had ample time to set out what did or did not happen during that time. it is outrageous that we are still having to hear it and i think what we're seeing time and i think what we're seeing time
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and again is borisjohnson has tried to wriggle out of the whole picture and quite frankly i think this reinforces again that after everything that happened and everything that happened and everything in total we need to consider whether. .. everything in total we need to consider whether... that everything in total we need to consider whether. . ._ consider whether... that is interesting _ consider whether... that is interesting but _ consider whether... that is interesting but his - consider whether... that is i interesting but his supporters say this is a witch hunt and stitch up and it was his lawyers that alerted and it was his lawyers that alerted and handed over saying there was no wrongdoing. so in actualfact boris johnson and his team have been proactive about this? but johnson and his team have been proactive about this?— proactive about this? but i think the response — proactive about this? but i think the response by _ proactive about this? but i think the response by boris _ proactive about this? but i think the response by boris johnson i proactive about this? but i think l the response by boris johnson and the response by borisjohnson and his supporters come straight out of the donald trump playbook, boris johnson could have said today that he strenuously denies the allegations but it could have said he had nothing to hide and he was going to... he he had nothing to hide and he was going ton-— he had nothing to hide and he was going to---— going to... he says he doesn't, clearl . going to... he says he doesn't, clearly- he _ going to... he says he doesn't, clearly. he could _ going to... he says he doesn't, clearly. he could have - going to... he says he doesn't, clearly. he could have said i going to... he says he doesn't, clearly. he could have said he i going to... he says he doesn't, i clearly. he could have said he would work collaboratively _ clearly. he could have said he would work collaboratively with _ clearly. he could have said he would work collaboratively with any - work collaboratively with any investigation but instead he has politicised it and lashed out to
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attack our independent civil service again and he is dragging up politics and dragging it through the mud with these denials. 50 and dragging it through the mud with these denials-— these denials. so the knock-on may be that the — these denials. so the knock-on may be that the privileges _ these denials. so the knock-on may be that the privileges committee i be that the privileges committee takes longer in their deliberations and in the broader sense will that be a problem for the resolution if there is such a thing of the covid era? i there is such a thing of the covid era? ., , there is such a thing of the covid era? ~' , . ., era? i think the privilege committee will take the — era? i think the privilege committee will take the time _ era? i think the privilege committee will take the time they _ era? i think the privilege committee will take the time they need - era? i think the privilege committee will take the time they need to i era? i think the privilege committee| will take the time they need to come to a conclusion and i have confidence that they will do that in the right way. but i do not think it will be an inquiry that brings this to a conclusion, the fact is that the actual inquiry into the handling of the pandemic is just getting going and we have to remember that all of that time we had millions of people making enormous sacrifices who have lost loved ones in this drip feed of allegations again to date will be a trigger for those people who have lost loved ones who will never get back so i think it really is time that borisjohnson
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thinks about the hurt he has cause to millions of people and when he considers whether he should remain an mp. ., ., considers whether he should remain an mp. ., ,, ,, considers whether he should remain an mp. ., ~' ,, , considers whether he should remain anmp. ., , . the police in cardiff are under scrutiny tonight following the deaths last night of two teenage boys in a crash in the ely area, after cctv footage was released showing two boys on an electric bike being followed by a police van. the police had denied they were pursuing the boys, named as 16—year—old kyrees sullivan and 15—year—old harvey evans, but have now acknowledged the cctv footage, and have made a mandatory referral to the independent police watchdog. it was after the crash that word got round local residents that police were involved and then rioting and arson attacks broke out involving up to 150 people. yasminara khan has spent the day in cardiff. ely, a tight—knit community today trying to come to terms with what happened in their area last night. there is anger at the scenes that took place yesterday evening when riots broke out between protesters and the police
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after a crash that killed two teenage boys. south wales police was called to the fatal crash on snowdon road shortly after 1800 on monday. people started to gather at the scene of the incident and tensions began to rise. at around 2800, police tweeted they were still at the scene of collision but also working to de—escalate ongoing disorder. what followed were scenes of about 100 to 150 protesters clashing with police. vehicles were set alight and missiles were thrown. a local resident had been observing the scenes from early on. at that point, new was a car or bus had hit a scooter. that is what the story was at that point and the police were providing any information, i walked down here because i knew residents would be trying to get into the homes and ended up talking to residents who are frustrated because the police would tell them what was going on
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and had just been told they couldn't put that way and there was no one giving out information or support in place for people who were forced to wait like elderly and disabled people, there was no water provided by the police on a warm day. residents around were quite good but it would have been a nice display from the police to support the community they didn't come out to supporters yesterday. there has been confusion over what caused the riots, and there was speculation on social media that there was a police chase which caused the crash. south wales police and crime commissioner denied this and told radio 4 these were unfounded rumours and the word "caused" was not the right one to use. we are here on frank road where a video analysed by bbc verify timestamp 1759 yesterday shows a police van following two people on an electric bike. the cctv footage was taken on frank road at 5:50 am.pm yesterday, just over half a
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mile away from the site of the suspected pressure on snowdon road. south wales police was close to this location shortly after six bm where two people were given cpr. in the hours that followed violence ensued. the local council told us how many in ely are feeling today. and how it is one of the most deprived areas in wales. i is one of the most deprived areas in wales. ., , is one of the most deprived areas in wales. ~ , ., ., , wales. i think it is sad and has been sadness, _ wales. i think it is sad and has been sadness, the _ wales. i think it is sad and has been sadness, the reaction i wales. i think it is sad and has been sadness, the reaction isl been sadness, the reaction is shocking. disappointment. this is a very close—knit community and people are rightly concerned for their community and the people who p, so it is very sad and our thoughts and prayers are with the families that have lost their loved ones because thatis have lost their loved ones because that is quite shocking and a tragedy. in a statement by south wales police this afternoon they said, "south wales police has also made
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a mandatory referral to the independent office for police conduct to ensure the matter receives independent scrutiny." linda, a local charity worker, who has lived most of her life in ely, described the people protesting last night as outsiders. people who don't even belong to ely, they come from outside ely, and that has angered the community. they have destroyed the good community and the people within it. the ely people would not do this, ely people pulled together at a time like this and i only have to look back on past evidence to see that. this is not what ely is about, honestly. what happened last night was embarrassing for the community itself. tonight, a community is grieving the loss of two teenage boys, still looking for answers. for the police questions remain. i'm joined now by plaid cymru's memberfor south wales central, heledd chhan.
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and psychologist and lecturer on people and organisation at swansea university, simon williams. good evening to both of you. first of all, heledd, what do you make of the lease full class today? first of all, heledd, what do you make of the lease full class today?— the lease full class today? first of all my articles _ the lease full class today? first of all my articles out _ the lease full class today? first of all my articles out of _ the lease full class today? first of all my articles out of the - the lease full class today? first of all my articles out of the family i all my articles out of the family and friends of the two teenagers that tragically lost their lives and that tragically lost their lives and thatis that tragically lost their lives and that is the trucks of the story here. what we need to now understand and the clarity is if there is any connection between the cctv footage that has emerged and sent the tragic incident that led to the loss of their lives. if there is a connection we need to understand why the police and crime commissioner said this morning there was no police chase and then obviously that seems to be at odds with what emerged this evening. i seems to be at odds with what emerged this evening. i wonder had that cctv footage _ emerged this evening. i wonder had that cctv footage not _ emerged this evening. i wonder had that cctv footage not emerged, i emerged this evening. i wonder had i that cctv footage not emerged, what you think the police approach would have been, you think without that cctv footage which was so clear that
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the police van was following the scooter we might never know what actually happened? we scooter we might never know what actually happened?— scooter we might never know what actually happened? we were told this mornin: actually happened? we were told this morning there — actually happened? we were told this morning there were _ actually happened? we were told this morning there were rumours - actually happened? we were told this morning there were rumours and i actually happened? we were told this| morning there were rumours and they were only rumours, so obviously we need to understand what led to that statement being made by the police and crime commissioner which is an elected road that is there to support communities in terms of their relationship between the community and police. so obviously we need to understand why that statement was made and obviously what happened last night following a very tragic incident that then escalated into a riot, that is the crux of the matter and where we need the independent investigation as a matter of urgency.— the independent investigation as a matter of urgency. simon, there was also a question _ matter of urgency. simon, there was also a question of— matter of urgency. simon, there was also a question of public— matter of urgency. simon, there was also a question of public trust, i also a question of public trust, these are tragic deaths, these parts riots, but what is at play here, is it the community relationship with the police also were as a president said, people that were here last
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night were not from ely? aha, said, people that were here last night were not from ely? a great ruestion night were not from ely? a great question and _ night were not from ely? a great question and i— night were not from ely? a great question and i would _ night were not from ely? a great question and i would also - night were not from ely? a great question and i would also like i night were not from ely? a great question and i would also like to | question and i would also like to offer_ question and i would also like to offer condolences to the family and friends _ offer condolences to the family and friends that were involved with the tragic— friends that were involved with the tragic deaths. we know that it is rarely— tragic deaths. we know that it is rarely down to a group of individuals and violence is never condoned — individuals and violence is never condoned orjustifiable... it should our triggers— condoned orjustifiable... it should our triggers and incidents that sparked — our triggers and incidents that sparked violence and that includes how crowds and police react in the moment_ how crowds and police react in the moment but they're bigger underlying problems— moment but they're bigger underlying problems that create these conditions of unrest and sometimes they spill— conditions of unrest and sometimes they spill over into violence. 0ne they spill over into violence. one of the _ they spill over into violence. one of the things is distrust in authority and we know this has been authority and we know this has been a problem _ authority and we know this has been a problem not in the last few years just. _ a problem not in the last few years just. it _ a problem not in the last few years just. it has — a problem not in the last few years just, it has got worse and there is as little _ just, it has got worse and there is
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as little of— just, it has got worse and there is as little of half people in the uk trust _ as little of half people in the uk trust police so people need to look at how _ trust police so people need to look at how we — trust police so people need to look at how we rebuild. | trust police so people need to look at how we rebuild.— at how we rebuild. i suppose total hones is at how we rebuild. i suppose total honesty is one _ at how we rebuild. i suppose total honesty is one thing _ at how we rebuild. i suppose total honesty is one thing and - at how we rebuild. i suppose total honesty is one thing and what i at how we rebuild. i suppose total honesty is one thing and what she could say is at least a police after cctv fitting today involved in a pursuit of what they were involved in, a pursuit of the boys although they haven't called themselves a pursuit. is there an issue here with the role of social media here, simon? . the role of social media here, simon? , ., ., ., ., simon? there is a role of social media and _ simon? there is a role of social media and when _ simon? there is a role of social media and when we _ simon? there is a role of social media and when we look- simon? there is a role of social media and when we look at i simon? there is a role of social - media and when we look at well-known media and when we look at well— known riots in— media and when we look at well— known riots in 2011 _ media and when we look at well— known riots in 2011 over four that, some of the _ riots in 2011 over four that, some of the underlying conditions are the same _ of the underlying conditions are the same conditions that led to riots in the same _ same conditions that led to riots in the same community, social deprivation, social media is a big thing _ deprivation, social media is a big thing and — deprivation, social media is a big thing and this can be problematic, it can _ thing and this can be problematic, it can he _ thing and this can be problematic, it can he a — thing and this can be problematic, it can be a source of misinformation and there _ it can be a source of misinformation and there can be
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