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the us—born singer—songwriter tina turner has died at the age of 83. she was known as the queen of rock and roll. in a statement, her representative says, tina turner, the queen of rock and roll, has died peacefully today at the age of 83. that was after a long illness in her home in zurich near switzerland. with us, david cilento looks back on her life. # when you were a young boy # did you have a puppy # that always followed you around... 1966, river deep mountain high. in yourface, hip shaking, sweat drenched, passionate, pop perfection.
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however, in america, the song was a flop. it would be another 17 years before tina turner truly made it. anna mae bullock grew up in nutbush, tennessee. her family were sharecroppers. she started singing in ike turner's band when she was a teenager. and poor, largely abandoned by her parents, it was, she hoped, her escape. but it was an escape into a different sort of misery. # rolling down a river powerful woman on stage.
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but, the acid queen in tommy was in private, fearful of her violent, controlling husband. finally, in 1976, she walked out. i did try to leave, and the first time was when i had the experience of being whipped with a wire hanger. and then another time was something else. and i realised, "well, you don't go back." # i'm your private dancer # a dancer for money # i'll do what you want me to do.... her career, though, was in the doldrums. however, there was a place that had long been more receptive to the tina turner magic — britain. let's stay together was a collaboration with the creative team behind heaven 17, a new british manager and backing from artists such as david bowie
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helped turbo—charge her career. # what's love got to do got to do with it what followed was hit after hit. # but a second—hand emotion. a film role in mad max. and in the year 2000, she was 60 years old and the biggest selling concert artist in the world. from annie may bullock and the church choir of nutbush baptist church to multi—platinum selling buddhist rock and roll superstar living in switzerland. the extraordinary tina turner.
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tina turner, who has died at the age of 83. well, let's talk to our media and art. david, we heard all the hitch they your piece. 0ne and art. david, we heard all the hitch they your piece. one of the best—selling recording artist in all time. it's hard to know where to even start to assess tina legacy. absolutely. i mean, iwill read even start to assess tina legacy. absolutely. i mean, i will read the statement first. tina turner, the queen of rock and roll has died peacefully today at the age of 83 after a long illness in her home in zurich, switzerland. her manager of 30 years, richard davis, said tina was a remarkable force of nature, immense talent. from the first day i met her in 1980, she believed in herself completely. few are the state of the time. it was a privilege and an honour to have been a close friend as well as her manager for more
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a close friend as well as her managerfor more than a close friend as well as her manager for more than 30 years. i will miss her deeply. and not referenced in 1980, it was a time when she thought it could possibly have been all over for her. when she thought it could possibly have been all overfor her. she didn't have a record deal. she had split from ike turner. an abusive marriage, for so many years. she had had her success in her hips, but many thought of her in america as essentially a vintage act, somebody who was maybe going to go around the clubs but never make another big record again. it was actuallyjust the beginning. when you saw the tens of millions of albums you sold in the 80s and 90s, when they took a rest with her, and they heard let's stay together, and they went to hang on a second, that's a real star. and it really all began in terms of sales in her 405. and there she was, at age 60, the biggest selling
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concert arti5t at age 60, the biggest selling concert artist in the year. it's an extraordinary 5tory. concert artist in the year. it's an extraordinary story. but more than that, there is also the inspirational story of her life. for many people, it is what she endured, how she overcame that, her honesty, her talking about it. inspiring many other people who felt that they had may be experienced something of what she had experienced in the marriage 5uch she had experienced in the marriage such as she had. and the fact that by the end of it, she found real happine55. it is a story that is inspiring. there is no wonder there's a musical about her life on there's a musical about her life on the west end. there's a musical about her life on the west end-— there's a musical about her life on the west end. ~ ,,., , ~ the west end. absolutely, david. and as ou the west end. absolutely, david. and as you said. — the west end. absolutely, david. and as you said. so _ the west end. absolutely, david. and as you said, so many _ the west end. absolutely, david. and as you said, so many artists - as you said, so many artists struggle to make it on the bone after they have been part of a hugely successful group. not only did she make it, she launched what many critics called the greatest comeback in music history. it was, as you said, that 1984 album. absolutely full stop and that sold
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more than 10 million copies. but there were then more than more, the hits kept on coming. there was a hit5 kept on coming. there was a james bond theme, the mad max movie, and she was as compelling in her 605 on stage as she was in her 205. it was the energy. you knew immediately, from the first second, that there is a person with incredible presence. it was one of the things that lead to jealousy from ike a5 the things that lead to jealousy from ike as well, the attention she attracted on stage. when she was under his control. but you want some of that footage from the 19605, and it is compelling. you cannot take your eyes off her. there are many other performers who have said, they've taken her moves. they've watch that and they have taken on
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board. the kennedy centre honour5, board. the kennedy centre honours, in washington, dc, when it was an evening in celebration of tina turner, the culmination walked onto the stage, beyonce 5aid turner, the culmination walked onto the stage, beyonce said there was two people in her life, her mother and tina turner. she does a performance of primary and you watch tina turner say you've got that from one person. you got that from tina turner. it one person. you got that from tina turner. ., , one person. you got that from tina turner. . , , ., , ., , turner. it really is astonishing, isn't it? we — turner. it really is astonishing, isn't it? we are _ turner. it really is astonishing, isn't it? we are just _ turner. it really is astonishing, isn't it? we are just looking . turner. it really is astonishing, isn't it? we are just looking at| isn't it? we are just looking at some footage, without that sound, but just the energy and enthusiasm jumps out of the screen. david, for now, thank you. we will talk to again a little later. but let's take you straight to washington and speak to our correspondent they are, jessica parker. jessica, a5 to our correspondent they are, jessica parker. jessica, as we said with david, it's hard to underestimate the impact that tina turner had on the music industry. how do you think she will be remembered there in the united states? ~ remembered there in the united states? ., _ remembered there in the united states? ~ ., , , , remembered there in the united states? ., _ , , states? will obviously this is huge breakin:
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states? will obviously this is huge breaking news _ states? will obviously this is huge breaking news here _ states? will obviously this is huge breaking news here in _ states? will obviously this is huge breaking news here in the - states? will obviously this is huge breaking news here in the us - states? will obviously this is huge breaking news here in the us as l breaking news here in the us as welt _ breaking news here in the us as well. many networks running those lines that _ well. many networks running those lines that we've had from the representative, calling her the queen— representative, calling her the queen of— representative, calling her the queen of rock and roll. as you've been _ queen of rock and roll. as you've been reflecting there, her life story— been reflecting there, her life story really was quite remarkable. she came — story really was quite remarkable. she came from a rural community in tennessee — she came from a rural community in tennessee. and then she sort of started _ tennessee. and then she sort of started her— tennessee. and then she sort of started her career, having met mike turner~ _ started her career, having met mike turner~ and — started her career, having met mike turner. and then recreated herself, reinventing — turner. and then recreated herself, reinventing herself, despite successive struggles many times. she had not _ successive struggles many times. she had notiust_ successive struggles many times. she had notjust a destructive, abusive relationship with ike turner, which we've _ relationship with ike turner, which we've been— relationship with ike turner, which we've been hearing about, but quite a disruptive — we've been hearing about, but quite a disruptive childhood as well. i think— a disruptive childhood as well. i think for— a disruptive childhood as well. i think for a — a disruptive childhood as well. i think for a lot of people, while remembering her incredible music and of course _ remembering her incredible music and of course, how many artists can really _ of course, how many artists can really claim _ of course, how many artists can really claim that you might name the title really claim that you might name the titie of— really claim that you might name the title of their song something like the best— title of their song something like the best and people will start reciting — the best and people will start reciting the lyrics by heart? she was incredible and that way in terms of her— was incredible and that way in terms of her musical legacy. but the fact that she _ of her musical legacy. but the fact that she didn't have those struggles through— that she didn't have those struggles through an extremely long career,
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and despite the ups and the downs, and despite the ups and the downs, and there _ and despite the ups and the downs, and there certainly were ups and downs— and there certainly were ups and downs to — and there certainly were ups and downs to do that story many times, i think— downs to do that story many times, i think a _ downs to do that story many times, i think a lot _ downs to do that story many times, i think a lot of— downs to do that story many times, i think a lot of people now talking about— think a lot of people now talking about her— think a lot of people now talking about her as a real inspiration, not 'ust about her as a real inspiration, not just because of her music but because of her life story as well and all— because of her life story as well and all the obstacles she overcame. jessica, _ and all the obstacles she overcame. jessica, while you are talking to us, we thought a statement from the building behind you, the white house, saying that the death of tina hou5e, saying that the death of tina turner is incredibly sad news, they say. it's a massive lo55 turner is incredibly sad news, they say. it's a massive loss to the communities who loved her. it's difficult to get a sense of quite how much has changed during the career of tina turner. i'm looking at some of the accolades awarded to her. it also, the first black arti5t, the first woman to be on the cover of rolling stone. rolling stone magazine ranking her among the 100 greatest artists of all time. and the 100 greatest singers of all time. there are so many records and glass ceiling5 that she broke. absolutely. you'vejust
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glass ceiling5 that she broke. absolutely. you've just been listings — absolutely. you've just been listings on there. the fact that the white _ listings on there. the fact that the white house are so quickly issued a statement, — white house are so quickly issued a statement, of course the building that you — statement, of course the building that you see behind me, the fact that you see behind me, the fact thatjust — that you see behind me, the fact thatjust shows you that you see behind me, the fact that just shows you what an iconic figure _ that just shows you what an iconic figure that — that just shows you what an iconic figure that she was here in the us. ithink— figure that she was here in the us. i think because of all the things we've _ i think because of all the things we've just — i think because of all the things we've just been talking about it's going _ we've just been talking about it's going to — we've just been talking about it's going to take a little while to unpack— going to take a little while to unpack the enormity of her legacy. it's unpack the enormity of her legacy. it's really— unpack the enormity of her legacy. it's really interesting. i wasjust reading about her life. at one point, — reading about her life. at one point, she originally set out to become — point, she originally set out to become a _ point, she originally set out to become a nurse, and then ended up being _ become a nurse, and then ended up being this _ become a nurse, and then ended up being this musical icon, musical legend — being this musical icon, musical legend. and as you say, someone who smashed _ legend. and as you say, someone who smashed glass ceilings through her career— smashed glass ceilings through her career postop despite a lot of difficulties. of course, it was difficulties. of course, it was later— difficulties. of course, it was later that _ difficulties. of course, it was later that we learned about the abusive — later that we learned about the abusive relationship that she had suffered — abusive relationship that she had suffered with ike turner, and as well, _ suffered with ike turner, and as well, i_ suffered with ike turner, and as well, i was _ suffered with ike turner, and as well, i was reading about the fact that he was the one who actually changed — that he was the one who actually changed her name. she was born anna mae bullock, but he decided to change — mae bullock, but he decided to change her name without even consulting her. but she kept that name' _ consulting her. but she kept that name. and — consulting her. but she kept that name, and while keeping that name she actually went to forge a career all in _ she actually went to forge a career all in her_ she actually went to forge a career all in her own. and of course,
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become — all in her own. and of course, become a _ all in her own. and of course, become a household name in the us. but much _ become a household name in the us. but much further afield as well. jessica, — but much further afield as well. jessica, for now, thanks. we will get some more from you, will speak to a little later. but for now, jessica parker, live in washington. let's talk to the chief mu5ic jessica parker, live in washington. let's talk to the chief music critic at the times newspaper. well, thank you for being with us. there are so many parts of tina turner's career, singer—songwriter, actress. let's talk about the music first of all, though. so many records, as i was just di5cu55ing there, that tina ju5t di5cu55ing there, that tina turner was awarded. what will be the standout achievement of tina turner's career? this standout achievement of tina turner's career?— standout achievement of tina turner's career? as you mention three or four— turner's career? as you mention three or four times, _ turner's career? as you mention three or four times, if _ turner's career? as you mention three or four times, if you - turner's career? as you mention three or four times, if you think | three or four times, if you think that— three or four times, if you think that when— three or four times, if you think that when she _ three or four times, if you think that when she was _ three or four times, if you think that when she was a _ three or four times, if you think that when she was a kid, - three or four times, if you think that when she was a kid, she i three or four times, if you think. that when she was a kid, she and three or four times, if you think- that when she was a kid, she and ike turner were — that when she was a kid, she and ike turner were performing, _ that when she was a kid, she and ike turnerwere performing, and- that when she was a kid, she and ike turnerwere performing, and in- that when she was a kid, she and ike turnerwere performing, and in the. turnerwere performing, and in the intermission, — turnerwere performing, and in the intermission, during _ turnerwere performing, and in the intermission, during the _ intermission, during the intermission— intermission, during the intermission she - intermission, during the intermission she was . intermission, during the - intermission she was performing intermission, during the _ intermission she was performing and he was _ intermission she was performing and he was blown — intermission she was performing and he was blown away— intermission she was performing and he was blown away by _ intermission she was performing and he was blown away by what - intermission she was performing and he was blown away by what he - intermission she was performing andi he was blown away by what he heard. then with _ he was blown away by what he heard. then with ike — he was blown away by what he heard. then with ike turner— he was blown away by what he heard. then with ike turner made _ he was blown away by what he heard. then with ike turner made those - then with ike turner made those records —
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then with ike turner made those records. proud _ then with ike turner made those records. proud mary. _ then with ike turner made those records. proud mary. and - then with ike turner made those records. proud mary. and then, i then with ike turner made those i records. proud mary. and then, you have _ records. proud mary. and then, you have the _ records. proud mary. and then, you have the full— records. proud mary. and then, you have the full spectre, _ records. proud mary. and then, you have the full spectre, with - records. proud mary. and then, you have the full spectre, with deep - have the full spectre, with deep mountain — have the full spectre, with deep mountain high— have the full spectre, with deep mountain high which _ have the full spectre, with deep mountain high which is - have the full spectre, with deep mountain high which is one - have the full spectre, with deep mountain high which is one of. have the full spectre, with deep i mountain high which is one of the most _ mountain high which is one of the most amazing _ mountain high which is one of the most amazing symphonic - mountain high which is one of the most amazing symphonic pop - mountain high which is one of the i most amazing symphonic pop songs mountain high which is one of the - most amazing symphonic pop songs of all time _ most amazing symphonic pop songs of all time so— most amazing symphonic pop songs of atitime so you — most amazing symphonic pop songs of all time. so you have _ most amazing symphonic pop songs of all time. so you have a _ most amazing symphonic pop songs of all time. so you have a thought, - most amazing symphonic pop songs of all time. so you have a thought, and l all time. so you have a thought, and then you _ all time. so you have a thought, and then you got — all time. so you have a thought, and then you got to — all time. so you have a thought, and then you got to the _ all time. so you have a thought, and then you got to the 70s _ all time. so you have a thought, and then you got to the 70s and - all time. so you have a thought, and then you got to the 70s and you - all time. so you have a thought, and| then you got to the 70s and you have tommy. _ then you got to the 70s and you have tommy. the — then you got to the 70s and you have tommy. the acid _ then you got to the 70s and you have tommy, the acid queen, _ then you got to the 70s and you have tommy, the acid queen, which- then you got to the 70s and you have tommy, the acid queen, which is- then you got to the 70s and you have tommy, the acid queen, which is off| tommy, the acid queen, which is off the scale _ tommy, the acid queen, which is off the scale and the _ tommy, the acid queen, which is off the scale and the terms _ tommy, the acid queen, which is off the scale and the terms of _ tommy, the acid queen, which is off the scale and the terms of this - tommy, the acid queen, which is off the scale and the terms of this kind i the scale and the terms of this kind of mania _ the scale and the terms of this kind of mania and — the scale and the terms of this kind of mania. and then— the scale and the terms of this kind of mania. and then a _ the scale and the terms of this kind of mania. and then a total- of mania. and then a total reinvention and _ of mania. and then a total reinvention and becomingl of mania. and then a total- reinvention and becoming this hundred — reinvention and becoming this hundred million _ reinvention and becoming this hundred million selling - reinvention and becoming this hundred million selling mtv, i reinvention and becoming this - hundred million selling mtv, 1986 r with private — hundred million selling mtv, 1986 r with private answer. _ hundred million selling mtv, 1986 r with private answer. and _ hundred million selling mtv, 1986 r with private answer. and then - hundred million selling mtv, 1986 r| with private answer. and then what's love with private answer. and then what's iove got _ with private answer. and then what's iove got to _ with private answer. and then what's iove got to do — with private answer. and then what's love got to do with _ with private answer. and then what's love got to do with it. _ with private answer. and then what's love got to do with it. so _ with private answer. and then what's love got to do with it. so she - with private answer. and then what's love got to do with it. so she had - love got to do with it. so she had this ability i_ love got to do with it. so she had this ability. i think— love got to do with it. so she had this ability. i think she _ love got to do with it. so she had this ability. i think she was - this ability. i think she was or more — this ability. i think she was or more raw— this ability. i think she was or more raw talent _ this ability. i think she was or more raw talent than - this ability. i think she was or. more raw talent than someone this ability. i think she was or- more raw talent than someone like beyonce _ more raw talent than someone like beyonce who— more raw talent than someone like beyonce who is _ more raw talent than someone like beyonce who is so _ more raw talent than someone like beyonce who is so obviously- more raw talent than someone like . beyonce who is so obviously indebted to her~ _ beyonce who is so obviously indebted to her~ she _ beyonce who is so obviously indebted to her~ she had — beyonce who is so obviously indebted to her. she had this _ beyonce who is so obviously indebted to her. she had this raw— beyonce who is so obviously indebted to her. she had this raw passion. - to her. she had this raw passion. she's— to her. she had this raw passion. she's very— to her. she had this raw passion. she's very much _ to her. she had this raw passion. she's very much rock— to her. she had this raw passion. she's very much rock and - to her. she had this raw passion. she's very much rock and roll. i to her. she had this raw passion. i she's very much rock and roll. but she can _ she's very much rock and roll. but she can write _ she's very much rock and roll. but she can write it _ she's very much rock and roll. but she can write it to _ she's very much rock and roll. but she can write it to the _ she's very much rock and roll. but she can write it to the r&b - she's very much rock and roll. but she can write it to the r&b and i she's very much rock and roll. but i she can write it to the r&b and soul background — she can write it to the r&b and soul background and experience. - she can write it to the r&b and soul background and experience. so - she can write it to the r&b and soul. background and experience. so yeah, ithink— background and experience. so yeah, i think she _ background and experience. so yeah, i think she was — background and experience. so yeah, i think she was probably— background and experience. so yeah, i think she was probably the - background and experience. so yeah, i think she was probably the most - i think she was probably the most important. — i think she was probably the most important. may— i think she was probably the most important, may be _ i think she was probably the most important, may be the _ i think she was probably the most important, may be the most- i think she was probably the most - important, may be the most important female _ important, may be the most important female rock— important, may be the most important female rock and — important, may be the most important female rock and roll— important, may be the most important female rock and roll singer— important, may be the most important female rock and roll singer of - important, may be the most important female rock and roll singer of all - female rock and roll singer of all time _ female rock and roll singer of all time actually _ female rock and roll singer of all time, actually. she's _ female rock and roll singer of all time, actually. she's not - female rock and roll singer of all. time, actually. she's not something necessarily— time, actually. she's not something necessarily to — time, actually. she's not something necessarily to associate _ time, actually. she's not something necessarily to associate with - time, actually. she's not something necessarily to associate with her, i necessarily to associate with her, but i _ necessarily to associate with her, but i think— necessarily to associate with her, but i think she — necessarily to associate with her, but i think she was _ necessarily to associate with her, but i think she was a _ necessarily to associate with her, but i think she was a rock- necessarily to associate with her, but i think she was a rock and - necessarily to associate with her, | but i think she was a rock and roll sinner. ~ �* , ., singer. we've 'ust had further detail singer. we've 'ust had further detanfrom_ singer. we've just had further detail from that _ singer. we've just had further
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detail from that statement. singer. we've just had further i detail from that statement from singer. we've just had further - detail from that statement from the white house, saying that she had so many amazing moments in her career. they describe it as many stages in many moments. in a career. tina turner managed to reinvent yourself over the years and there are very few artists who are able to do that. and do it successfully.— and do it successfully. that's correct. and _ and do it successfully. that's correct. and also, _ and do it successfully. that's correct. and also, she - and do it successfully. that's correct. and also, she did . and do it successfully. that's - correct. and also, she did against the odds — correct. and also, she did against the odds ike _ correct. and also, she did against the odds. ike turner— correct. and also, she did against the odds. ike turner was- correct. and also, she did against the odds. ike turner was i- correct. and also, she did against the odds. ike turner was i think. the odds. ike turner was i think famously— the odds. ike turner was i think famously a _ the odds. ike turner was i think famously a very _ the odds. ike turner was i think famously a very difficult - the odds. ike turner was i think famously a very difficult man. l the odds. ike turner was i think. famously a very difficult man. and it was— famously a very difficult man. and it was a _ famously a very difficult man. and it was a very— famously a very difficult man. and it was a very abusive _ famously a very difficult man. and it was a very abusive relationship i it was a very abusive relationship and she — it was a very abusive relationship and she escaped _ it was a very abusive relationship and she escaped that— it was a very abusive relationship and she escaped that with - it was a very abusive relationship - and she escaped that with absolutely nothing _ and she escaped that with absolutely nothing that — and she escaped that with absolutely nothing. that was _ and she escaped that with absolutely nothing. that was when _ and she escaped that with absolutely nothing. that was when the - and she escaped that with absolutely nothing. that was when the whole, l nothing. that was when the whole, that's— nothing. that was when the whole, that's when— nothing. that was when the whole, that's when the _ nothing. that was when the whole, that's when the beginning - nothing. that was when the whole, that's when the beginning of - nothing. that was when the whole, that's when the beginning of her. that's when the beginning of her superstardom _ that's when the beginning of her superstardom came, _ that's when the beginning of her superstardom came, after- that's when the beginning of her superstardom came, after a - that's when the beginning of her superstardom came, after a few| superstardom came, after a few years _ superstardom came, after a few years but — superstardom came, after a few years but that— superstardom came, after a few years. but that was _ superstardom came, after a few years. but that was the - superstardom came, after a few years. but that was the mtv - superstardom came, after a few- years. but that was the mtv period. so yes, _ years. but that was the mtv period. so yes, she — years. but that was the mtv period. so yes, she kept _ years. but that was the mtv period. so yes, she kept on _ years. but that was the mtv period. so yes, she kept on changing - years. but that was the mtv period. so yes, she kept on changing but i i so yes, she kept on changing but i think— so yes, she kept on changing but i think also its _ so yes, she kept on changing but i think also it's worth _ so yes, she kept on changing but i think also it's worth remembering | so yes, she kept on changing but i . think also it's worth remembering as difficult _ think also it's worth remembering as difficult as _ think also it's worth remembering as difficult as it — think also it's worth remembering as difficult as it is, _ think also it's worth remembering as difficult as it is, i— think also it's worth remembering as difficult as it is, i think— think also it's worth remembering as difficult as it is, i think that - think also it's worth remembering as difficult as it is, i think that a - difficult as it is, i think that a lot of— difficult as it is, i think that a lot of that _ difficult as it is, i think that a lot of that passion _ difficult as it is, i think that a lot of that passion that - difficult as it is, i think that a lot of that passion that we i difficult as it is, i think that a . lot of that passion that we here difficult as it is, i think that a - lot of that passion that we here in the voice — lot of that passion that we here in the voice and _ lot of that passion that we here in the voice and the _ lot of that passion that we here in the voice and the incredible - the voice and the incredible delivery. _ the voice and the incredible delivery. it— the voice and the incredible delivery, it came _ the voice and the incredible delivery, it came from - the voice and the incredible delivery, it came from a - the voice and the incredible. delivery, it came from a very difficult _ delivery, it came from a very difficult place. _ delivery, it came from a very difficult place. it— delivery, it came from a very difficult place. it came - delivery, it came from a very difficult place. it came from i delivery, it came from a veryl difficult place. it came from a delivery, it came from a very- difficult place. it came from a lot of pain i— difficult place. it came from a lot of pain. ithink— difficult place. it came from a lot of pain. i think it's _ difficult place. it came from a lot of pain. i think it's quite - difficult place. it came from a lot of pain. i think it's quite hard toi of pain. i think it's quite hard to have that — of pain. i think it's quite hard to have that depth _ of pain. i think it's quite hard to have that depth of _ of pain. i think it's quite hard to have that depth of delivery -
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of pain. i think it's quite hard to. have that depth of delivery if there isn't a _ have that depth of delivery if there isn't a kind — have that depth of delivery if there isn't a kind of— have that depth of delivery if there isn't a kind of difficult _ have that depth of delivery if there isn't a kind of difficult life - isn't a kind of difficult life behind _ isn't a kind of difficult life behind it _ isn't a kind of difficult life behind it. and _ isn't a kind of difficult life behind it. and that - isn't a kind of difficult life behind it. and that went. isn't a kind of difficult life i behind it. and that went all isn't a kind of difficult life - behind it. and that went all the way back to _ behind it. and that went all the way back to her— behind it. and that went all the way back to her childhood, _ behind it. and that went all the way back to her childhood, when - behind it. and that went all the way back to her childhood, when her- back to her childhood, when her baptist — back to her childhood, when her baptist grandparents— back to her childhood, when her. baptist grandparents really didn't want to— baptist grandparents really didn't want to become _ baptist grandparents really didn't want to become a _ baptist grandparents really didn't want to become a singer- baptist grandparents really didn't want to become a singer that- baptist grandparents really didn't want to become a singer that she became — want to become a singer that she became so — want to become a singer that she became so yes, _ want to become a singer that she became. so yes, it _ want to become a singer that she became. so yes, it was _ want to become a singer that she became. so yes, it was a - want to become a singer that she became. so yes, it was a difficultj became. so yes, it was a difficult iife _ became. so yes, it was a difficult life it _ became. so yes, it was a difficult life it was — became. so yes, it was a difficult life it wasan— became. so yes, it was a difficult life. it was an extremely- became. so yes, it was a difficult life. it was an extremely strong l life. it was an extremely strong person — life. it was an extremely strong person i— life. it was an extremely strong person. ithink— life. it was an extremely strong person. i think it's _ life. it was an extremely strong person. i think it's also - life. it was an extremely strong person. i think it's also the - person. i think it's also the strength— person. i think it's also the strength of— person. i think it's also the strength of character- person. i think it's also the strength of character that i person. i think it's also the i strength of character that is inspiring, _ strength of character that is inspiring, not— strength of character that is inspiring, notjust— strength of character that is inspiring, not just the - strength of character that isi inspiring, notjust the music. strength of character that is - inspiring, notjust the music. will, inspiring, not 'ust the music. will, if we look at — inspiring, notjust the music. will, if we look at her _ inspiring, notjust the music. if we look at her achievements, 100 million records around the world were sold, one of the best—selling recorders artists of all time. 12 grammy awards. three grammy hall of fame award. a grammy lifetime achievement award. the first black artist, the first woman to be on the cover of rolling stone. does any other artist come anywhere close to her achievements? other artist come anywhere close to herachievements? i other artist come anywhere close to her achievements?— her achievements? i mean, ithink ma be her achievements? i mean, ithink maybe she's _ her achievements? i mean, ithink maybe she's comparable - her achievements? i mean, ithink maybe she's comparable to - her achievements? i mean, ithink| maybe she's comparable to people like prince — maybe she's comparable to people like prince a— maybe she's comparable to people like prince. a female _ maybe she's comparable to people like prince. a female artist, - maybe she's comparable to people like prince. a female artist, i- like prince. a female artist, i don't — like prince. a female artist, i don't know _ like prince. a female artist, i don't know i_ like prince. a female artist, i don't know. i find _ like prince. a female artist, i don't know. i find it- like prince. a female artist, i don't know. i find it hard - like prince. a female artist, i don't know. i find it hard to l like prince. a female artist, i- don't know. i find it hard to think of someone _ don't know. i find it hard to think of someone who _ don't know. i find it hard to think of someone who is _ don't know. i find it hard to think of someone who is so _ don't know. i find it hard to thinki of someone who is so pioneering. especially— of someone who is so pioneering. especially in — of someone who is so pioneering. especially in the _ of someone who is so pioneering. especially in the mtv _ of someone who is so pioneering. especially in the mtv period, - of someone who is so pioneering. especially in the mtv period, the| especially in the mtv period, the i980s _
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especially in the mtv period, the i980s this — especially in the mtv period, the 1980s. this was _ especially in the mtv period, the 1980s. this was the _ especially in the mtv period, the 1980s. this was the superstar. 1980s. this was the superstar period — 1980s. this was the superstar period and _ 1980s. this was the superstar period. and she _ 1980s. this was the superstar period. and she was - 1980s. this was the superstar period. and she was one - 1980s. this was the superstar period. and she was one of. 1980s. this was the superstar- period. and she was one of among a handful _ period. and she was one of among a handful i_ period. and she was one of among a handful. i suppose _ period. and she was one of among a handful. i suppose you've _ period. and she was one of among a handful. i suppose you've got- period. and she was one of among a handful. i suppose you've got to - handful. i suppose you've got to springsteen _ handful. i suppose you've got to springsteen, madonna, - handful. i suppose you've got to springsteen, madonna, michael| springsteen, madonna, michael jackson — springsteen, madonna, michael jackson, prince, _ springsteen, madonna, michael jackson, prince, and _ springsteen, madonna, michael jackson, prince, and tina - springsteen, madonna, michael. jackson, prince, and tina turner. that's— jackson, prince, and tina turner. that's it — jackson, prince, and tina turner. that's it so— jackson, prince, and tina turner. that's it. so yeah, _ jackson, prince, and tina turner. that's it. so yeah, she's- jackson, prince, and tina turner. that's it. so yeah, she's deafly. jackson, prince, and tina turner. | that's it. so yeah, she's deafly up there. but— that's it. so yeah, she's deafly up there, but also _ that's it. so yeah, she's deafly up there, but also i— that's it. so yeah, she's deafly up there, but also i think— that's it. so yeah, she's deafly up there, but also i think there - that's it. so yeah, she's deafly up there, but also i think there is- there, but also i think there is something which, _ there, but also i think there is something which, i never- there, but also i think there is something which, i never metj there, but also i think there is- something which, i never met her, but i _ something which, i never met her, but i think— something which, i never met her, but i think there _ something which, i never met her, but i think there was _ something which, i never met her, but i think there was something. something which, i never met her, i but i think there was something that people _ but i think there was something that people warmed _ but i think there was something that people warmed to _ but i think there was something that people warmed to with _ but i think there was something that people warmed to with tina - but i think there was something that people warmed to with tina turner. i people warmed to with tina turner. obviously. — people warmed to with tina turner. obviously. she— people warmed to with tina turner. obviously, she was _ people warmed to with tina turner. obviously, she was taught. - people warmed to with tina turner. obviously, she was taught. but - people warmed to with tina turner. obviously, she was taught. but i. obviously, she was taught. but i think— obviously, she was taught. but i think she — obviously, she was taught. but i think she was _ obviously, she was taught. but i think she was reflective - obviously, she was taught. but i think she was reflective and - think she was reflective and philosophical, _ think she was reflective and philosophical, and - think she was reflective and philosophical, and i- think she was reflective and philosophical, and i think. think she was reflective and l philosophical, and i think that think she was reflective and - philosophical, and i think that is a very important _ philosophical, and i think that is a very important part _ philosophical, and i think that is a very important part of— philosophical, and i think that is a very important part of it— philosophical, and i think that is a very important part of it too, and| very important part of it too, and of course — very important part of it too, and of course the _ very important part of it too, and of course the film, _ very important part of it too, and of course the film, tina, - very important part of it too, and of course the film, tina, what's i of course the film, tina, what's love _ of course the film, tina, what's love got — of course the film, tina, what's love got to _ of course the film, tina, what's love got to do _ of course the film, tina, what's love got to do with _ of course the film, tina, what's love got to do with it, - of course the film, tina, what's love got to do with it, which - of course the film, tina, what's love got to do with it, which isi of course the film, tina, what'sl love got to do with it, which is a really— love got to do with it, which is a really good myopic, _ love got to do with it, which is a really good myopic, i— love got to do with it, which is a really good myopic, i think- love got to do with it, which is a really good myopic, i think that| really good myopic, i think that also opened _ really good myopic, i think that also opened her— really good myopic, i think that also opened her up _ really good myopic, i think that also opened her up to - really good myopic, i think that also opened her up to a - really good myopic, i think that also opened her up to a new i also opened her up to a new generation _ also opened her up to a new generation a _ also opened her up to a new generation, a new— also opened her up to a newj generation, a new audience. also opened her up to a new - generation, a new audience. that reinvention. _ generation, a new audience. that reinvention, i— generation, a new audience. that reinvention, i suppose _ generation, a new audience. reinvention, i suppose amongst generation, a new audience.- reinvention, i suppose amongst an industry that was changing on itself to, give us a sense if you will, will, about an industry that she entered at a very young age and how that changed over the course of her career. �* ,., ,., that changed over the course of her career. ~ ,., ,., ., career. also something worth remembering _ career. also something worth remembering with _ career. also something worth remembering with ike - career. also something worth | remembering with ike turner, although— remembering with ike turner, although history— remembering with ike turner, although history clearly, - remembering with ike turner, although history clearly, he'sl although history clearly, he's knocking _ although history clearly, he's knocking to _
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although history clearly, he's knocking to be _ although history clearly, he's knocking to be one _ although history clearly, he's knocking to be one of- although history clearly, he's knocking to be one of the - although history clearly, he's i knocking to be one of the good although history clearly, he's - knocking to be one of the good guys. at the _ knocking to be one of the good guys. at the same — knocking to be one of the good guys. at the same time, _ knocking to be one of the good guys. at the same time, things _ knocking to be one of the good guys. at the same time, things were - knocking to be one of the good guys. at the same time, things were very. at the same time, things were very difficult for — at the same time, things were very difficult for him _ at the same time, things were very difficult for him because _ at the same time, things were very difficult for him because it - at the same time, things were very difficult for him because it was - at the same time, things were very difficult for him because it was a i difficult for him because it was a very racist— difficult for him because it was a very racist time _ difficult for him because it was a very racist time in _ difficult for him because it was a very racist time in 1950s, - difficult for him because it was a very racist time in 1950s, early. very racist time in 1950s, early 19605 — very racist time in 1950s, early 1960s america. _ very racist time in 1950s, early 1960s america. 50 _ very racist time in 1950s, early 1960s america. 50 tina - very racist time in 1950s, early 1960s america. 50 tina turner| very racist time in 1950s, early- 1960s america. 50 tina turner came into this _ 1960s america. 50 tina turner came into this world, _ 1960s america. 50 tina turner came into this world, and _ 1960s america. 50 tina turner came into this world, and they _ 1960s america. so tina turner came into this world, and they really - 1960s america. so tina turner came into this world, and they really had i into this world, and they really had to forge _ into this world, and they really had to forge their — into this world, and they really had to forge their own _ into this world, and they really had to forge their own path. _ into this world, and they really had to forge their own path. what - into this world, and they really had to forge their own path. what she. to forge their own path. what she did, which— to forge their own path. what she did, which i— to forge their own path. what she did, which i think— to forge their own path. what she did, which i think she _ to forge their own path. what she did, which i think she is— to forge their own path. what she did, which i think she is probablyi did, which i think she is probably one of— did, which i think she is probably one of the — did, which i think she is probably one of the first, _ did, which i think she is probably one of the first, she _ did, which i think she is probably one of the first, she aligned - one of the first, she aligned herself— one of the first, she aligned herself very _ one of the first, she aligned herself very much _ one of the first, she aligned herself very much with - one of the first, she aligned herself very much with the i one of the first, she aligned - herself very much with the rolling stones. _ herself very much with the rolling stones. eric— herself very much with the rolling stones, eric clapton, _ herself very much with the rolling stones, eric clapton, the - herself very much with the rolling stones, eric clapton, the 1960s i stones, eric clapton, the 1960s british— stones, eric clapton, the 1960s british rockers. _ stones, eric clapton, the 1960s british rockers. i— stones, eric clapton, the 1960s british rockers. i guess - stones, eric clapton, the 1960s british rockers. i guess it's- stones, eric clapton, the 1960s british rockers. i guess it's thei british rockers. i guess it's the ruck_ british rockers. i guess it's the ruck movement, _ british rockers. i guess it's the ruck movement, really. - british rockers. i guess it's the ruck movement, really. and i british rockers. i guess it's thei ruck movement, really. and of course, — ruck movement, really. and of course, the _ ruck movement, really. and of course, the who. her- ruck movement, really. and of- course, the who. her performance as the acid _ course, the who. her performance as the acid queen— course, the who. her performance as the acid queen and _ course, the who. her performance as the acid queen and tommy— course, the who. her performance as the acid queen and tommy is- course, the who. her performance as the acid queen and tommy isjust - the acid queen and tommy isjust unbelievable. _ the acid queen and tommy isjust unbelievable. quite _ the acid queen and tommy isjust unbelievable. quite on _ the acid queen and tommy isjust unbelievable. quite on hinge, - the acid queen and tommy isjust unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'di unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'd say. unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'd saw i_ unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'd saw iso— unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'd say. iso she _ unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'd say. i so she probably— unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'd say. i so she probably was- unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'd say. i so she probably was on- unbelievable. quite on hinge, i'd . say. i so she probably was on some drugs _ say. i so she probably was on some drugs when — say. i so she probably was on some drugs when she _ say. i so she probably was on some drugs when she was _ say. i so she probably was on some drugs when she was doing - say. i so she probably was on some drugs when she was doing it. - say. i so she probably was on some drugs when she was doing it. but . say. i so she probably was on some drugs when she was doing it. but it| drugs when she was doing it. but it remains one — drugs when she was doing it. but it remains one of— drugs when she was doing it. but it remains one of the _ drugs when she was doing it. but it remains one of the greatest - remains one of the greatest performances _ remains one of the greatest performances of _ remains one of the greatest performances of all - remains one of the greatest performances of all time . remains one of the greatestl performances of all time and remains one of the greatest. performances of all time and it remains one of the greatest - performances of all time and it is captured — performances of all time and it is captured on — performances of all time and it is captured on film. _ performances of all time and it is captured on film. so _ performances of all time and it is captured on film. so yes, - performances of all time and it is captured on film. so yes, it - performances of all time and it is i captured on film. so yes, it changed a lot captured on film. so yes, it changed a tot but— captured on film. so yes, it changed a tot but at— captured on film. so yes, it changed a tot but at the — captured on film. so yes, it changed a lot but at the same _ captured on film. so yes, it changed a lot but at the same time _ captured on film. so yes, it changed a lot but at the same time she - captured on film. so yes, it changed a lot but at the same time she was i a lot but at the same time she was going with — a lot but at the same time she was going with the _ a lot but at the same time she was going with the changes _ a lot but at the same time she was going with the changes of- a lot but at the same time she was going with the changes of the - going with the changes of the industry— going with the changes of the industry itself. _ going with the changes of the industry itself. and _ going with the changes of the industry itself. and also - going with the changes of the industry itself. and also the i going with the changes of the - industry itself. and also the wider cultural changes. _ industry itself. and also the wider cultural changes. she _ industry itself. and also the wider cultural changes. she was - industry itself. and also the wider cultural changes. she was there l industry itself. and also the wider| cultural changes. she was there at the heart — cultural changes. she was there at the heart of— cultural changes. she was there at the heart of the _ cultural changes. she was there at the heart of the hippie _ cultural changes. she was there at the heart of the hippie revelation. | the heart of the hippie revelation. i the heart of the hippie revelation. iwoutdn't — the heart of the hippie revelation. iwouldn't call—
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the heart of the hippie revelation. i wouldn't call her _ the heart of the hippie revelation. i wouldn't call her happy - the heart of the hippie revelation. i wouldn't call her happy but - the heart of the hippie revelation. i wouldn't call her happy but she i i wouldn't call her happy but she was there — i wouldn't call her happy but she was there during _ i wouldn't call her happy but she was there during that, _ i wouldn't call her happy but she was there during that, and - i wouldn't call her happy but she was there during that, and then| i wouldn't call her happy but she l was there during that, and then of course _ was there during that, and then of course in — was there during that, and then of course in the — was there during that, and then of course in the 1980 _ was there during that, and then of course in the 1980 she _ was there during that, and then of course in the 1980 she embodiedi was there during that, and then of. course in the 1980 she embodied that spirit at _ course in the 1980 she embodied that spirit at the _ course in the 1980 she embodied that spirit at the same _ course in the 1980 she embodied that spirit at the same time, _ course in the 1980 she embodied that spirit at the same time, that - spirit at the same time, that ambition— spirit at the same time, that ambition and _ spirit at the same time, that ambition and scale - spirit at the same time, that ambition and scale that - spirit at the same time, that ambition and scale that we i spirit at the same time, that . ambition and scale that we got spirit at the same time, that - ambition and scale that we got in the i980s~ — ambition and scale that we got in the 1980s. so she _ ambition and scale that we got in the 1980s. so she kept _ ambition and scale that we got in| the 1980s. so she kept changing, ambition and scale that we got in - the 1980s. so she kept changing, and ithink— the 1980s. so she kept changing, and i think she _ the 1980s. so she kept changing, and i think she reflected _ the 1980s. so she kept changing, and i think she reflected the _ the 1980s. so she kept changing, and i think she reflected the times, - the 1980s. so she kept changing, and i think she reflected the times, but i i think she reflected the times, but white _ i think she reflected the times, but white always — i think she reflected the times, but while always being _ i think she reflected the times, but while always being herself. - i think she reflected the times, but while always being herself. i- i think she reflected the times, but while always being herself. i don'ti while always being herself. idon't think— while always being herself. i don't think there's — while always being herself. i don't think there's anyone _ while always being herself. i don't think there's anyone that - while always being herself. i don't think there's anyone that really i think there's anyone that really compares — think there's anyone that really compares to— think there's anyone that really compares to her. _ think there's anyone that really compares to her.— think there's anyone that really compares to her. will, it's been really great _ compares to her. will, it's been really great to _ compares to her. will, it's been really great to get _ compares to her. will, it's been really great to get your - compares to her. will, it's been| really great to get your thoughts and insight they are. appreciate you've been there on the programme with us. the times music critic. well, let's talk to the bbc radio preventer. tony, good to happy with us. i imagine you have played quite a few of tina turner's records in your time. a few of tina turner's records in yourtime. how a few of tina turner's records in your time. how you remember her�*s i'm so sorry to hear the news. i remember her as giving us some wonderful records. she was very ruck. with soul music, slightly softer soul. ruck. with soul music, slightly softersoul. but ruck. with soul music, slightly softer soul. but tina turner, the energy she put in, i loved private dancer, it was one of my favourites.
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and i remember seeing her in 02 and the energy she put into her performance was just absolutely wonderful. ijust adored her. in the image, that big hairand wonderful. ijust adored her. in the image, that big hair and the short skirts and all the rest. but she was just a terrific performer and i loved playing her music and she has given us so many great songs that we can continue playing as well. what can continue playing as well. what was it about _ can continue playing as well. what was it about her _ can continue playing as well. what was it about her music— can continue playing as well. what was it about her music that - can continue playing as well. what was it about her music that managed to transcend obviously different generations? it lasted across many decades. what was it that made it so popular and so universally popular�*s i don't know. that she was 83 years old, and when i remember seeing her i think she must�*ve been about 78 or 79 but she had this amazing energy. and she wasn't dated in any way. she was always up—to—date, a terrific performer. i think that her image was amazing as well. she had a really interesting life. she had a very stormy marriage with ike turner, of course. it is documented
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in the film. she had terrific personality. i think it appeal to all age groups. people who loved soul music, like i do, and people who love ruck music, because she managed to combine both, which was quite unusual, really. so i think that's what it was, really. i think she was an interesting personality. she had wonderful charisma. and she came across on the stage, and her music wasjust second came across on the stage, and her music was just second to none. came across on the stage, and her music wasjust second to none. music was 'ust second to none. tony, ou have music wasjust second to none. tony, you have been _ music wasjust second to none. tony, you have been around _ music wasjust second to none. tony, you have been around long _ music wasjust second to none. tony, you have been around long enough to know that a lot of artist tried to reinvent themselves, don't they? and they're not always successful. she was the queen of reinvention and managed to do so, particularly well, and then called one of the greatest comebacks in music history in the 19805. it was her ability to do that, to change with the times and do something different that kept irrelevant. i do something different that kept irrelevant. ~ . �* . do something different that kept irrelevant. ,, . �* , ., , irrelevant. i think that's really important- — irrelevant. i think that's really important. i've _ irrelevant. i think that's really important. i've been - irrelevant. i think that's really important. i've been around l irrelevant. i think that's really l important. i've been around 60 irrelevant. i think that's really - important. i've been around 60 years
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now. to reinvent yourself sometimes and do things a bit different, and keep up—to—date, that's very important. and she did not. you never, when you saw her on stage, she was always fresh and had so much energy. her music was absolutely wonderful. she didn't try. you never got the feeling that she was trying to be younger. shejust got the feeling that she was trying to be younger. she just was young. in her outlook and her stage performance. it didn't look dated. she could get older and older and older, and was still tina turner on stage with the dynamic personality. it wasn't just the music stage with the dynamic personality. it wasn'tjust the music go either, was a tony? there were so many different facets to it. it was the fashion. it was the energy. it was the movies. and in later years, a stage show. the movies. and in later years, a stage show— the movies. and in later years, a stage show. absolutely. the stage show about _ stage show. absolutely. the stage show about whitney _ stage show. absolutely. the stage show about whitney houston, - stage show. absolutely. the stage show about whitney houston, i . stage show. absolutely. the stage i show about whitney houston, i think is still on in london actually. unfortunately i haven't seen it yet but i must go and see it. the film
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was interesting as well, amazing. she had such a traumatic life. it was an interesting life, apart from anything else. so when you saw her on stage, you are aware she really lived life to the full. that's why i think we all loved her and the music she brought us was just tremendous. i loved it. and what i love about soul music is somebody who, when you hear a singer singing from the heart, not what she did. she sung from the heart. and the amount of energy she put into it was truly wonderful. energy she put into it was truly wonderful-— wonderful. i've mentioned this alread . wonderful. i've mentioned this already- the — wonderful. i've mentioned this already. the number - wonderful. i've mentioned this already. the number of - wonderful. i've mentioned this i already. the number of amazing records that she broke. 100 million records that she broke. 100 million records sold around the world, one of the best—selling recording artists of all time. 12 grammy awards, three grammy hall of fame wards, a grammy lifetime achievement award. tony and i will ask you the same question i asked will. does any other artist compare? and
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same question i asked will. does any other artist compare?— other artist compare? and the other artist to what. _ other artist compare? and the other artist to what, sorry? _ other artist compare? and the other artist to what, sorry? does - other artist compare? and the other artist to what, sorry? does any - artist to what, sorry? does any other artist _ artist to what, sorry? does any other artist compare _ artist to what, sorry? does any other artist compare to - artist to what, sorry? does any other artist compare to that. artist to what, sorry? does any | other artist compare to that sort artist to what, sorry? does any - other artist compare to that sort of achievement tina turner managed to achievement tina turner managed to achieve throughout her career�*si achieve throughout her career's i don't think really, you're talking about the franks and authors and the aretha franklin said and people like that. there have been some wonderful soul singers, that. there have been some wonderful soulsingers, but that. there have been some wonderful soul singers, but the amount of songs that she sold and the amount of records that she sold was quite tremendous. i don't think there's anybody to compare with her and they probably never will be. the state shows were absolutely wonderful. i've seen some wonderful soul singers in my time, shakur karn, they put a lot of energy into it. but it doesn't have that interest. when you see tina turner, you are looking at somebody who, as i said previously, she has lived a lie. she's had an interesting life. and you think, there is somebody who is really lived life to the full. i think she will be sadly missed, but although of course she has left are so many great songs to play. i will
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certainly be playing them for as long as i'm around. you certainly be playing them for as long as i'm around.— certainly be playing them for as long as i'm around. you talk there about a life _ long as i'm around. you talk there about a life well _ long as i'm around. you talk there about a life well lived. _ long as i'm around. you talk there about a life well lived. and - long as i'm around. you talk there about a life well lived. and also, l about a life well lived. and also, such an inspiration to so many different people.— such an inspiration to so many different people. yeah, absolutely. i think she was _ different people. yeah, absolutely. i think she was a _ different people. yeah, absolutely. i think she was a great _ different people. yeah, absolutely. i think she was a great role - different people. yeah, absolutely. i think she was a great role model. i think she was a great role model as well. . there was somebody who kept going. she reinvent ourselves, as you said. and she, she was just fantastic to look at. you thought, this is a really interesting woman. not only are we here in great song from her, that she sings from the heart, i don't think she ever went on stage, and i saw her a couple of times and she never seem to go on stage and just walk through it. she put every single thing into it. sometimes i found her quite exhausting to look at because she was putting so much energy into it. i remember seeing her at the 02, and she was getting on quite a bit. she was amazing in the first time. and then,in was amazing in the first time. and then, in the second half, she had to
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sit down for a little bit.— sit down for a little bit. tony, so aood to sit down for a little bit. tony, so good to talk _ sit down for a little bit. tony, so good to talk to _ sit down for a little bit. tony, so good to talk to you. _ sit down for a little bit. tony, so good to talk to you. thanks - good to talk to you. thanks for sharing those memories. more attributes coming up for you. you are watching bbc news. hello. we've seen some spectacular sunrise and sunset pictures over the last 2a hours, like this one from warwickshire. now, a lot of the cloud you could see here is actually aeroplane contrails — in other words, the water that comes out of the back of aeroplane engines turns to ice crystals to make these clouds. now the contrails can last for many, many hours if there's a lot of moisture in the atmosphere seven miles above our head, the height that aeroplanes fly — that's exactly what's been going on. however, through today, we've seen those contrails blow towards france, at the same time, we've had some drier air seven miles up in the atmosphere working across england and wales. in other words, those contrails are not going to be quite as widespread, nor as long—lived over the next couple of days. now, today, we've seen
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lots of warm weather. the temperatures quite widely across the midlands, south and east wales, southern england reached the low 205, and we've got more of the same to come, as well. now, overnight tonight, we'll keep clear skies, just a few patches of cloud drifting southwards across parts of england. the skies clearing in scotland to give some colder weather here, with temperatures dipping down into low single figures in the coldest areas as we head into the first part of thursday morning. but essentially, the weather won't change a whole lot over the next few days, thanks to this big area of high pressure. the winds continue to come around that from the atlantic, so temperatures aren't going to change a great deal either. thursday then, perhaps a little bit more in the way of cloud across central and eastern england, but still some spells of sunshine. and at the same time, there should be more in the way of sunshine to look forward to in scotland. wherever you are, our temperatures are likely to reach the high teens to low 205 pretty widely, and will likely peak at around 23 for southeast wales, the west midlands, and southwest england. how warm's 23? well, compared with warm spells
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we've seen over recent mays, 23 kind of puts us right at the bottom of the pile. more often than not, warm spells at this time of year bring those two pictures into the mid—to—high 205. now for friday, there's again little overall change in the big weather picture. a lot of dry weather, a lot of sunshine around. this time, probably less cloud for eastern england, a bit more cloud for scotland, where there could be an odd passing spot of rain in the northwest. but for the vast majority, it's dry and its warm in the may sunshine, with temperatures again in high teens to low 205. and this fine, sunny, settled spell of weather is set to last throughout the bank holiday weekend and into the early part of the new week, as well. that's the latest, bye for now.
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queen of rock and roll and most prominent as the lead singer of the aiken turner career before the watching her solo career. in a representative saying that the queen of rock and roll has died peacefully today at the age of 83. after a long illness in her home near zurich in switzerland. with her at the world loses a music legend at a world model. looking back now at her life, a warning this report does take to flashing images. # when you were a young boy # did you have a puppy # that always followed you around... 1966, river deep mountain high. in yourface, hip shaking, sweat drenched, passionate, pop perfection. however, in america,
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the song was a flop. it would be another 17 years before tina turner truly made it. anna mae bullock grew up in nutbush, tennessee. her family were sharecroppers. she started singing in ike turner's band when she was a teenager. # flatbush city limit... and poor, largely abandoned by her parents, it was, she hoped, her escape. but it was an escape into a different sort of misery. # rolling down a river... there were hits and the world saw a confident, powerful woman on stage.
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but, the acid queen in tommy was, in private, fearful of her violent, controlling husband. finally, in 1976, she walked out. i did try to leave, and the first time was when i had the experience of being whipped with a wire hanger. and then another time was something else. and i realised, "well, you don't go back." # i'm your private dancer # a dancer for money # i'll do what you want me to do... her career, though, was in the doldrums. however, there was a place that had long been more receptive to the tina turner magic — britain. let's stay together was a collaboration with the creative team behind heaven 17, a new british manager and backing from artists such as david bowie helped turbo—charge her career.
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# what's love got to do got to do with it what followed was hit after hit. # but a second—hand emotion... # we don't need another hero... a film role in mad max. but how the world turns one day cock of the walk, next day feathered duster. and in the year 2000, she was 60 years old and the biggest selling concert artist in the world. from annie may bullock and the church choir of nutbush baptist church to multi—platinum selling buddhist rock and roll superstar living in switzerland. the extraordinary tina turner.
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that's tina turner who has died at the age of 83. as you will expect so many tributes pouring in for tina tuner all of the world the latest just from the boss of the music giant bmg. bmg acquired all of the interest in tina tuner interest by carlisle, recordings and music publishing a little earlier, they are just issuing the statement saying that they were only ever be one tina turner her music and life journey touch so many people and we said our condolences to her manager and her husband and all who loved her. we have also heard an update in last hour from the white house saying it is incredibly sad news, tina tuner was an icon, and music icon who had so many stages into many amazing moments in her career. the white house saying it is a massive loss to the communities that loved her and certainly to the music industry. and her music will live
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and will continue to live on. our hearts go out to her family and her friends. more there on the bbc news website. we will return to the breaking story but let's get some of the other may news tonight and news of the united states and from florida with the governor ron desantis has filed paperwork confirming he will run for us president in 202a. he will formally announce on twitter alongside the company boss, elon musk. the 44 is the main bible to donald trump to be the republican candidate —— candidate in next year's presidential election. well ahead of other rivals for the nomination but mr desantis has deduced his role in florida to show off his conservative credentials including extending gun ownership and restricting abortion rights. let's head straight to washington and speak to our north america north
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in. that official announcement we were reading for has been made in the last hour. interesting that he will now do so on twitter as well one would assume that as part of making him more well known to more people outside of his home state of florida but first of all remind us who he is. florida but first of all remind us who he is-_ florida but first of all remind us who he is. a, , ., ., , ., who he is. months and months of speculation _ who he is. months and months of speculation and _ who he is. months and months of speculation and finally _ who he is. months and months of speculation and finally governor. who he is. months and months of. speculation and finally governor ron desantis has filed those papers concerning that he will be throwing his hat into the ring, a very crowded ring of republican candidates vying for the presidential nomination first as he mentioned there he will then give an interview to elon musk, the owner of twitter and that will be followed by a interview with fox news. so very much staying and has safe space, you could say. it was interesting about this is that he is very much testing a few things here. so in florida
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people love him. when you stop and ask people about desantis or trump they like both men but they like the hard—line conservative policies that he has introduced and so this is a test for him to see if that not transfers to a national stage. it is also a real test for the republican party to see if they can move on from donald trump who still dominates the party. speaking of mr trump him and desantis used to be pretty close but they have, desantis doesn't really say to anything to mr trump who takes quite a lot of shots at him. but i would say he is the closest rival, the nearest rival to donald trump at a distant level. if there were a contest right now donald trump much win. but we are about a year and how from the election so quite some time to go, a lot could change. ads, election so quite some time to go, a lot could change.— lot could change. a could change. and ron desantis's _ lot could change. a could change. and ron desantis's big _ lot could change. a could change. and ron desantis's big thing - lot could change. a could change. and ron desantis's big thing is i lot could change. a could change. | and ron desantis's big thing is his antique woke politics. it is all about what he does not like. do we
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know what he does like? as was his message may resonate with a lot of people we don't know much on now on what he stands for do we? the whole anti—woke thing is the whole central plague of his entire anti-woke thing is the whole central plague of his entir— plague of his entire agenda. -- central plank. _ plague of his entire agenda. -- central plank. when _ plague of his entire agenda. -- central plank. when you - plague of his entire agenda. -- central plank. when you speak| plague of his entire agenda. -- i central plank. when you speak to floridians they like his strongman style, some of the policies that he has brought in, restricting transgender rights, immigration, limiting abortion services as well. these are things that they like about him. and i would say that that actually tells you a lot about him. he is seen as a solid conservative, but without the drama around donald trump. whether or not that will help them or not we will have to see. there are so many old converters to
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law —— loyal to donald trump but you get some who like him but are not entirely committed and there are some who are looking for alternative candidates that desantis may be that quy- candidates that desantis may be that guy. one interesting thing about him and this is all in adults that your is that he does not really have that interpersonal style that you can say donald trump has. he has known for being quite aloof. he came to the capital and april to meet lots of donors and some of his former colleagues that they were very in adults coming out such as he worked earbuds to avoid conversation. and so therefore he will be really tested on the national stage of course presidential campaigns are really grueling and involves, politics personal, it involves interacting with people and talking to people so will find more about ron desantis as time goes on. that is the point- — ron desantis as time goes on. that is the point- he _ ron desantis as time goes on. that is the point. he talked about how popular he is in florida, but whether he is tested on the national stage and also whether his appeal goes beyond the state borders.
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that's exactly right. if you go to other states they are still very much loyal to donald trump particularly states were at the election is decided as well. and so it is not a coincidence that ron desantis has a book out and he went on a book tour that took in places like wisconsin and iowa, key states where he will obviously be trying to drum up support but a lot of it is also about the money. the people that campaign you, financier. we know there are a lot of big donors here in miami, in a hotel not far from us actually. we don't know if ron desantis is here or not. there is a whole thing about where is he at the moment, but he does have a lot of backing. he is a huge war chest of the millions that he has accumulated since becoming governor soap money talks as well. so we will have to see exactly what his campaign style is. also the fact that he is going on twitter to
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announce his interest except a third of americans are on twitter but there are also millions of people that you'll instantly be able to appeal to, that you'll instantly be able to appealto, elon that you'll instantly be able to appeal to, elon musk has 150 million follows and a lot of people on twitter are very conservative or certainly very far right. these days because the argument is elon musk has certainly cultivated that sort of base after saying that he was a free speech advocate and so forth. that probably also shows that he is prepared to fight his campaign not just in the town halls and iowa or in cable network news but also online. whether or not donald trump will teach anything, bear in mind, he is back on twitter, but he does not tweet, he has his own social network site. not tweet, he has his own social network site-— not tweet, he has his own social network site. fascinating. we will talk about that _ network site. fascinating. we will talk about that twitter _ network site. fascinating. we will talk about that twitter element i talk about that twitter element later in the programme but for now thank you so much. live in florida for us. let's talk some more to ryan christie former special assistant in a republican and his books return
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for the california democratic party. thank you for being with us and ron let me start with you in that question that we will asked many of times, is ron desantis really going to be the republican nominee? it to be the republican nominee? it remains to be seen. there are so many people here in the states who think that the conventional wisdom is that donald trump is up 25—32 points on the ron desantis. i would remind your viewers around the world that in 1992 we had president george h w bush running for reelection and there was this little—known governor from arkansas from hope of a controlled by the name of bill clinton who got in the race and a gentleman from texas, ross perot who garnered 19% and suddenly clinton won the presidency so with nearly a year and a half ago conventional wisdom would say donald trump would win but desantis is sitting pretty in third place looking to move up. ads,
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in third place looking to move up. a year and have to go for most people that seems like a long time but in american politics is not a lot and a lot can change at that time. robin, we talk there with our correspondent in florida with some of the appeal that ron desantis has particularly that ron desantis has particularly that anti—woke strategy that he is pursuing. do you think it has appealed borders of florida? i pursuing. do you think it has appealed borders of florida? i think it miuht appealed borders of florida? i think it might have _ appealed borders of florida? i think it might have appeal _ appealed borders of florida? i think it might have appeal in _ appealed borders of florida? i think it might have appeal in a _ appealed borders of florida? i think it might have appeal in a gop - it might have appeal in a gop primary— it might have appeal in a gop primary but beyond the borders of florida _ primary but beyond the borders of florida and in a general election i think— florida and in a general election i think that sets him up for failure. there _ think that sets him up for failure. there is— think that sets him up for failure. there is a — think that sets him up for failure. there is a reason that no politician from _ there is a reason that no politician from the _ there is a reason that no politician from the state of florida has ever made _ from the state of florida has ever made it _ from the state of florida has ever made it to — from the state of florida has ever made it to the white house. jeb bush and marco _ made it to the white house. jeb bush and marco rubio included. and i think— and marco rubio included. and i think that — and marco rubio included. and i think that is because the politics of florida — think that is because the politics of florida do not align with the politics— of florida do not align with the politics of the united states of america — politics of the united states of america certainly not here in california _ america certainly not here in california. so it is interesting to me because i think ron desantis is realty— me because i think ron desantis is really try— me because i think ron desantis is really try to present himself as
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anti—establishment while at the same time taking straight from the playbook of donald trump and working on twitter. _ playbook of donald trump and working on twitter, embracing fox news and it's not— on twitter, embracing fox news and it's not like — on twitter, embracing fox news and it's not like elon musk is going to be a _ it's not like elon musk is going to be a hard—hitting journalistic interview. so he is taking the low hanging — interview. so he is taking the low hanging fruit, trying to build this base _ hanging fruit, trying to build this base but— hanging fruit, trying to build this base but i— hanging fruit, trying to build this base but i don't know how that wins a general election. i do think they are going — a general election. i do think they are going to mix it up in the republican primary andi are going to mix it up in the republican primary and i do think that donald trump's sheen has finally— that donald trump's sheen has finally been damaged. he has been tefton _ finally been damaged. he has been tefton for— finally been damaged. he has been teflon for so long and i think the lawsuits— teflon for so long and i think the lawsuits and just the negativity and honestly _ lawsuits and just the negativity and honestly the fact that donald trump has not _ honestly the fact that donald trump has not been defending himself on twitter— has not been defending himself on twitter and places like that have allowed — twitter and places like that have allowed for his brand to get damaged enough _ allowed for his brand to get damaged enough that there is room for marco rubio— enough that there is room for marco rubio in the — enough that there is room for marco rubio in the primary. that enough that there is room for marco rubio in the primary.— rubio in the primary. that is the oint that rubio in the primary. that is the point that robin _ rubio in the primary. that is the point that robin raises - rubio in the primary. that is the point that robin raises there - rubio in the primary. that is the | point that robin raises there that it is straight out of the donald
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trump playbook in some respects and i wonder if desantis is different enough to stand out and what could be a really crowded race. i enough to stand out and what could be a really crowded race.— be a really crowded race. i think it olitics be a really crowded race. i think it politics it is _ be a really crowded race. i think it politics it is about _ be a really crowded race. i think it politics it is about addition - be a really crowded race. i think it politics it is about addition ratherl politics it is about addition rather than subtraction. rather than talking to all of the things that he is against, governor desantis needs to talk about what he is for. is he for strong national defence? is he for strong national defence? is he forfinding a for strong national defence? is he for finding a way to solve the immigration crisis that has plagued the united states and so many millions of people who have come into our country? is he for reducing taxes? we do not know yet. and i think that is also to the detriment of president trump. he spent millions of dollars running ads against ron desantis, against desantis's record but he has not actually made the case thus far of what he is for and what he deserves a second term so for all of the republican candidates getting in. if it were me, i would say, hey, this is what i believe in and this is why
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i believe what i believe and look at my vision, my record and my leadership as to howl my vision, my record and my leadership as to how i can move the party and the country forward other than what i am against. taste party and the country forward other than what i am against.— party and the country forward other than what i am against. we know that domestic issues _ than what i am against. we know that domestic issues play _ than what i am against. we know that domestic issues play high _ than what i am against. we know that domestic issues play high on - than what i am against. we know that domestic issues play high on the - domestic issues play high on the agenda especially coming to a presidential election but does ron desantis have international desa ntis have international experience? desantis have international experience? how does he fit onto a world stage? i’m experience? how does he fit onto a world stage?— world stage? i'm not sure he does fit on a world _ world stage? i'm not sure he does fit on a world stage, _ world stage? i'm not sure he does fit on a world stage, yet. - world stage? i'm not sure he does fit on a world stage, yet. i - world stage? i'm not sure he does fit on a world stage, yet. i do - fit on a world stage, yet. i do think— fit on a world stage, yet. i do think that _ fit on a world stage, yet. i do think that the point is well taken that we — think that the point is well taken that we have to talk about what you are for _ that we have to talk about what you are for but — that we have to talk about what you are for but i— that we have to talk about what you are for but i don't know that donald trump _ are for but i don't know that donald trump has — are for but i don't know that donald trump has ever talked about what he was for _ trump has ever talked about what he was for i_ trump has ever talked about what he was for. i don't know if he ever had eight legitimate platform. people embraced his personality and he was going _ embraced his personality and he was going to _ embraced his personality and he was going to do _ embraced his personality and he was going to do things differently and i think that is what ron desantis is also trying to emulate. so the dynamics— also trying to emulate. so the dynamics i think are interesting. i think— dynamics i think are interesting. i think it _ dynamics i think are interesting. i think it will — dynamics i think are interesting. i think it will change things. i think
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ron desantis is not ready for a world — ron desantis is not ready for a world stage because his view is so floridian— world stage because his view is so floridian and he just has the blinders _ floridian and he just has the blinders on right now. we floridian and he just has the blinders on right now. we will have this debate many _ blinders on right now. we will have this debate many a _ blinders on right now. we will have this debate many a time _ blinders on right now. we will have this debate many a time i'm - blinders on right now. we will have this debate many a time i'm sure i blinders on right now. we will have | this debate many a time i'm sure as the election creeps closer but for now thank you both. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making headlines the uk. the cost of living crisis could be starting to ease albeit slowly. new figures show the inflation, the measure of how quickly prices are rising has fallen to single figures since august. coming in at 8.7% for the year to april. the duchess of edinburgh so she's deeply saddened by the death of a woman who was hit by a motorbike which is part of her police escort. the family of 81—year—old, helen holland say she
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suffered massive internal injuries in the collision in west london two weeks ago. she died in hospital. the police watchdog is investigating what happened. virgin orbit is officially no more. the record company has sold its facility and equipment for a slew of aerospace firms for a sum of $36 million founded by billionaire to salt —— send small satellites into space but filed for bankruptcy last month. you're live with bbc news. let's a to that breaking story news that the us—born singer—songwriter tina turner has died at the age of 83 widely known as the queen of rock and roll and those to prominence of the ike internet review. before launching a successful solo career but a statement saying that the...
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gear earlier i spoke to our correspondent who give us the latest. l correspondent who give us the latest. . , ., ., latest. i read the statement. tina turner the _ latest. i read the statement. tina turner the queen _ latest. i read the statement. tina turner the queen of _ latest. i read the statement. tina turner the queen of rock- latest. i read the statement. tina turner the queen of rock and - latest. i read the statement. tina turner the queen of rock and roll| turner the queen of rock and roll has died peacefully at the age of a long illness in her home in zurich switzerland. her manager of 30 years, roger davis said tina was a unique and remarkable force of nature with a strength and incredible energy and immense talent for the first day i met her in 1980 she believes in herself completely. when few others did at the time. it was a privilege and an honour to have been a close friend as well as manager for more than 30 years. i will miss her deeply. and that reference to the 1980. it was a time when she thought it could possibly have been all over for her. when she thought it could possibly
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have been all overfor her. she when she thought it could possibly have been all over for her. she did not have a record deal. she had split from ike turner, an abusive marriage for so many years. she had had her success and her heads but many thought of her in america as a essentially a vintage act. someone who's maybe going to go around to clubs but never bake in the good record again. and it was actually just the beginning. when you saw the tens of millions of albums you sold in the 805 and 905 when they took a risk with her and they heard let's stay together and they went hang on a sec, that's a real star. and it really all began in terms of sales in her 405 and though she was aged 60, the biggest selling concert artist in the year in the planet. it is an extraordinary story. more than that, she has the special story of her life, for many people it is what
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she endured, how she overcame it, her honesty her talking about it inspiring many people who felt they had maybe experience something of what she had experienced in a marriage such as that she had. and the fact that by the end of it she found real happiness. and it is a story that is inspiring. there is no wonder there is a musical about her life on at the west end at the moment. life on at the west end at the moment-— life on at the west end at the moment. ~ ,,., , ., .,, moment. absolutely and as he said some of the — moment. absolutely and as he said some of the artist _ moment. absolutely and as he said some of the artist struggled - moment. absolutely and as he said some of the artist struggled at - moment. absolutely and as he said some of the artist struggled at the | some of the artist struggled at the moment to make it on their own after they have been part of a huge successful group. not only did she make it, she launched what many critics called the greatest comeback of music history. it was as you said, that 1984 album. absolutely. and that sold _ said, that 1984 album. absolutely. and that sold more _ said, that 1984 album. absolutely. and that sold more than _ said, that 1984 album. absolutely. and that sold more than 10 - said, that 1984 album. absolutely. and that sold more than 10 million j and that sold more than 10 million copies. but there were then more and more, the hits kept on coming. there
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was ajames more, the hits kept on coming. there was a james bond theme. there was the mad max movie. and she was as compelling in her 605 on stage as she was in her 205. it was the energy. you knew immediately, from the first second that there is a person with incredible presence. it was one of the things that led to chelsea from ike turner is welcome the amount of attention she attracted on stage. but she was under his control. but you just watch, some of that footage from the 19605 and it is compelling. you cannot take her eyes off of her. there are many other performers who people have said, they have taken her moves. they have watched that and they have taken it on board. there is the kennedy centre honours in washington, dc when it was an evening and celebration of tina turner and the culmination of it,
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walks into the sage beyonce. she said there were two teens —— teen is in her life her mother and tina turner and she does a performance of proud mary and you watch beyonce and go, well, yeah you got that from one person. you got that from tina turner. . turner. our entertainment correspondent _ turner. our entertainment correspondent reflecting i turner. our entertainment| correspondent reflecting of turner. our entertainment - correspondent reflecting of the life of tina turner who died at the age of 83. some pictures there from her greatest comeback in music history as that 19805 comeback of tina turner has been described. she then sold over 100 million records around the world, one of the best—selling recording artists of all time. 12 grammy awards. three grammy hall of fame awards. a grammy lifetime achievement award. the first black artist in the first woman to be on the cover of rolling stone. we and now with some of her most legendary moments. # when you were a young boy did you have a puppy
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# that always followed you around. # flatbush city limits. # flatbush city limits. # flatbush city limit # flatbush city limit # keep on burning # keep on burning # rolling # rolling i'm # rolling i'm your # rolling i'm your private # rolling i'm your private dancer # rolling i'm your private dancer i'm your private ( # rolling i'm your private dancer # credenza for money # credenza for money # do what you want me to do # do what you want me to do # let's stay together # let's stay together # 0h, # let's stay together # oh, what's love got to do with it? # oh, what's love got to do with it? # we don't need another hero # we don't need another hero # we don't need another hero # we don't need to know the way home
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# we don't need to know the way home # better than all the rest # better than all the rest # better than anyone... hello. we've seen some spectacular sunrise and sunset pictures over the last 24 hours, like this one from warwickshire. now, a lot of the cloud you could see here is actually aeroplane contrails — in other words, the water that comes out of the back of aeroplane engines turns to ice crystals to make these clouds. now the contrails can last for many, many hours if there's a lot of moisture in the atmosphere seven miles above our head, the height that aeroplanes fly — that's exactly what's been going on. however, through today, we've seen those contrails blow towards france, at the same time, we've had some drier air seven miles up in the atmosphere working across england and wales. in other words, those contrails are not going to be quite as widespread, nor as long—lived over the next couple of days. now, today, we've seen lots of warm weather.
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the temperatures quite widely across the midlands, south and east wales, southern england reached the low 205, and we've got more of the same to come, as well. now, overnight tonight, we'll keep clear skies, just a few patches of cloud drifting southwards across parts of england. the skies clearing in scotland to give some colder weather here, with temperatures dipping down into low single figures in the coldest areas as we head into the first part of thursday morning. but essentially, the weather won't change a whole lot over the next few days, thanks to this big area of high pressure. the winds continue to come around that from the atlantic, so temperatures aren't going to change a great deal either. thursday then, perhaps a little bit more in the way of cloud across central and eastern england, but still some spells of sunshine. and at the same time, there should be more in the way of sunshine to look forward to in scotland. wherever you are, our temperatures are likely to reach the high teens to low 205 pretty widely, and will likely peak at around 23 for southeast wales, the west midlands, and southwest england. how warm's 23? well, compared with warm spells we've seen over recent mays, 23 kind of puts us right at the bottom of the pile.
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more often than not, warm spells at this time of year bring those two pictures into the mid—to—high 205. now for friday, there's again little overall change in the big weather picture. a lot of dry weather, a lot of sunshine around. this time, probably less cloud for eastern england, a bit more cloud for scotland, where there could be an odd passing spot of rain in the northwest. but for the vast majority, it's dry and its warm in the may sunshine, with temperatures again in high teens to low 205. and this fine, sunny, settled spell of weather is set to last throughout the bank holiday weekend and into the early part of the new week, as well. that's the latest, bye for now.
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hello, i'm ben thompson. you're watching the context on bbc news. tributes pour in for the american—born singer, tina turner, who has died at the age of 83. hello and welcome to the programme. so, the news breaking in the last hour or so is that the us—born singer songwriter, tina turner, has died at the age of 83. she rose to prominence
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as the lead singer of the ike & tina turner revue before launching a successful career as a solo performer. in a statement, a representative says... david sillito looks back on her life. a warning, this report contains flashing images. # when you were a young boy. # did you have a puppy. # that always followed you around... 1966, river deep mountain high. in yourface, hip shaking, sweat drenched, passionate, pop perfection. however, in america, the song was a flop.
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it would be another 17 years before tina turner truly made it. anna mae bullock grew up in nutbush, tennessee. her family were sharecroppers. she started singing in ike turner's band when she was a teenager. # flatbush city limit... and poor, largely abandoned by her parents, it was, she hoped, her escape. but it was an escape into a different sort of misery. # rolling down a river... there were hits and the world saw a confident, powerful woman on stage. but, the acid queen in tommy was, in private, fearful of her violent, controlling husband.
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finally, in 1976, she walked out. i did try to leave, and the first time was when i had the experience of being whipped with a wire hanger. and then another time was something else. and i realised, "well, you don't go back." # i'm your private dancer # a dancer for money # i'll do what you want me to do... her career, though, was in the doldrums. however, there was a place that had long been more receptive to the tina turner magic — britain. let's stay together was a collaboration with the creative team behind heaven 17, a new british manager and backing from artists such as david bowie helped turbo—charge her career. # what's love got to do # got to do with it what followed was hit after hit. # but a second—hand emotion...
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# we don't need another hero... a film role in mad max. but how the world turns one day cock of the walk, next a feather duster. and in the year 2000, she was 60 years old and the biggest selling concert artist in the world. from anna mae bullock and the church choir of nutbush baptist church, to multi—platinum selling buddhist rock and roll superstar living in switzerland. the extraordinary tina turner. tina turner, who's died at the age of 83. live now to our entertainment correspondent colin paterson who is at the tina turner musical
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in central london. call and it will be a particularly emotional night tonight. hater? emotional night tonight. very emotional— emotional night tonight. very emotional night. _ emotional night tonight. very emotional night. it's - emotional night tonight. very emotional night. it'sjust - emotional night tonight. , emotional night. it'sjust reach the emotional night. it's just reach the interval, manyjust finding the news out as they came outside and got reception on their mobile phones. i am joined by a reception on their mobile phones. i amjoined bya man reception on their mobile phones. i am joined by a man who knew tina turner. this is chris road. he's from america. he worked in the tour in 1985. and chris, you are actually in 1985. and chris, you are actually in london for the deaf bag memorial concert which is been on for the last two nights. that's why you're here. l last two nights. that's why you're here. . . . last two nights. that's why you're here. ., . ~ last two nights. that's why you're here. ., ., ,, ., ., here. i was at the rock and roll church. here. i was at the rock and roll church- and — here. i was at the rock and roll church. and you _ here. i was at the rock and roll church. and you came - here. i was at the rock and roll church. and you came here - here. i was at the rock and roll - church. and you came here tonight because you _ church. and you came here tonight because you used _ church. and you came here tonight because you used to _ church. and you came here tonight because you used to work- church. and you came here tonight because you used to work with - church. and you came here tonight| because you used to work with tina turner and knew her very well. i turner and knew her very well. i knew her very well. i toured in 1985 with her— knew her very well. i toured in 1985 with her and — knew her very well. i toured in 1985 with her and we had a stream, just like you _ with her and we had a stream, just like you see — with her and we had a stream, just like you see the first rock and roll tour had — like you see the first rock and roll tour had a — like you see the first rock and roll tour had a screen, and we travelled the world _ tour had a screen, and we travelled the world to — tour had a screen, and we travelled the world to it. everyone wanted to see her— the world to it. everyone wanted to see her legs, so they charge extra
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money. _ see her legs, so they charge extra money, so — see her legs, so they charge extra money, so that was a first—time video was— money, so that was a first—time video was used. money, so that was a first-time video was used.— money, so that was a first-time video was used. ~ . ., , , ,, ., video was used. what was she like to work with's she _ video was used. what was she like to work with's she was _ video was used. what was she like to work with's she was the _ video was used. what was she like to work with's she was the hardest - work with's she was the hardest workin: work with's she was the hardest working person _ work with's she was the hardest working person i _ work with's she was the hardest working person i have _ work with's she was the hardest working person i have ever - work with's she was the hardest | working person i have ever seen work with's she was the hardest i working person i have ever seen in my life _ working person i have ever seen in my life we — working person i have ever seen in my life. we would do five nights, 500 miles — my life. we would do five nights, 500 miles apart, on a bus, all around — 500 miles apart, on a bus, all around the _ 500 miles apart, on a bus, all around the united states. roger davies, — around the united states. roger davies, her manager, it was olivia newton— davies, her manager, it was olivia newtonjohn, i believe. she would add shows— newtonjohn, i believe. she would add shows and say will do six nights! — add shows and say will do six nights! but if tina could do it we did it _ nights! but if tina could do it we did it it's— nights! but if tina could do it we did it. it's funny because when you're — did it. it's funny because when you're 25, _ did it. it's funny because when you're 25, she was 45 at the time, you're lust — you're 25, she was 45 at the time, you're just a — you're 25, she was 45 at the time, you're just a kid seeing finch for the first time. i thought the whole world _ the first time. i thought the whole world was— the first time. i thought the whole world was like california. what's it's not — world was like california. what's it's not. but she lives in a wonderful place in switzerland, and i wonderful place in switzerland, and | -ot wonderful place in switzerland, and i got to— wonderful place in switzerland, and i got to go— wonderful place in switzerland, and i got to go to her house maybe seven, — i got to go to her house maybe seven, eight years ago. and i got to
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see her— seven, eight years ago. and i got to see her there. seven, eight years ago. and i got to see herthere. it was see her there. it was wonderful. she's— see her there. it was wonderful. she's a — see her there. it was wonderful. she's a wonderful lady. she just dances — she's a wonderful lady. she just dances in — she's a wonderful lady. she just dances in your heart. you feel about rhythm _ dances in your heart. you feel about rhythm i've— dances in your heart. you feel about rhythm. i've never seen anybody with the power— rhythm. i've never seen anybody with the power of— rhythm. i've never seen anybody with the power of a microphone so close. i the power of a microphone so close. i was _ the power of a microphone so close. i was right— the power of a microphone so close. i was right on— the power of a microphone so close. i was right on the front stage. and she danced — i was right on the front stage. and she danced with these ramps, and i would fly— she danced with these ramps, and i would fly a — she danced with these ramps, and i would fly a camera crane in the air. it would fly a camera crane in the air. it was _ would fly a camera crane in the air. it was a _ would fly a camera crane in the air. it was a first — would fly a camera crane in the air. it was a first time ever do that. they— it was a first time ever do that. they said — it was a first time ever do that. they said you have a career doing it! paul. — they said you have a career doing it! paul. one _ they said you have a career doing it! paul, one of the best directors, does _ it! paul, one of the best directors, does mccartney struck.— does mccartney struck. you've got this really unique _ does mccartney struck. you've got this really unique view, _ does mccartney struck. you've got this really unique view, getting - does mccartney struck. you've got this really unique view, getting to| this really unique view, getting to watch her night after night on this. herfirst huge tour. watch her night after night on this. her first huge tour. est} watch her night after night on this. her first huge tour.— her first huge tour. 60 and legs, ou know her first huge tour. 60 and legs, you know and — her first huge tour. 60 and legs, you know and l — her first huge tour. 60 and legs, you know and i mean? _ her first huge tour. 60 and legs, you know and i mean? just - you know and i mean? just look—alikes, every night if you go downtown — look—alikes, every night if you go downtown. nebraska, newjersey, tina look-alikes _ downtown. nebraska, newjersey, tina look—alikes. miami, where we went.
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what _ look—alikes. miami, where we went. what would — look—alikes. miami, where we went. what would you like on stage? do know what's i've never seen a woman that way— know what's i've never seen a woman that way in— know what's i've never seen a woman that way in high heels. i heard that she taught — that way in high heels. i heard that she taught mickjagger to dance. she will dance _ she taught mickjagger to dance. she will dance forever in our heart. my heart. _ will dance forever in our heart. my heart. your— will dance forever in our heart. my heart, your heart. every human being that he _ heart, your heart. every human being that he was— heart, your heart. every human being that he was that voice, the power of her voice. _ that he was that voice, the power of hervoice, it— that he was that voice, the power of her voice, it wasjust that he was that voice, the power of her voice, it was just unbelievable. so raw, _ her voice, it was just unbelievable. so raw, so— her voice, it was just unbelievable. so raw, so groovy but then, you can even _ so raw, so groovy but then, you can even save _ so raw, so groovy but then, you can even save blues, because it was like a voice _ even save blues, because it was like a voice that— even save blues, because it was like a voice that came out of a church. seriously. — a voice that came out of a church. seriously, that's all i would say. a gospel— seriously, that's all i would say. a gospel church. that sound that converted _ gospel church. that sound that converted gospel into ruck music. and she's — converted gospel into ruck music. and she's the queen. maybe elton john is— and she's the queen. maybe elton john is the — and she's the queen. maybe elton john is the king and she's the queen — john is the king and she's the queen. by the way, 02 arena, led zeppelin. —
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queen. by the way, 02 arena, led zeppelin. it— queen. by the way, 02 arena, led zeppelin, it was tina. this queen. by the way, 02 arena, led zeppelin, it was tina.— zeppelin, it was tina. this 1985 tour, zeppelin, it was tina. this 1985 tour. private — zeppelin, it was tina. this 1985 tour, private dancer, _ zeppelin, it was tina. this 1985 tour, private dancer, this - zeppelin, it was tina. this 1985j tour, private dancer, this really was the start of one of the most amazing comebacks in ruck history, because she had left ike. she hadn't had a head for years. and then this was the album that really brought her back. when the mean to her? i her back. when the mean to her? i remember we her back. when the mean to her? i rememberwe were up her back. when the mean to her? i remember we were up in stjohn's for six weeks _ remember we were up in stjohn's for six weeks. we were doing rehearsals. it six weeks. we were doing rehearsals. it takes _ six weeks. we were doing rehearsals. it takes six _ six weeks. we were doing rehearsals. it takes six weeks before band comes out. it takes six weeks before band comes out it— it takes six weeks before band comes out it takes— it takes six weeks before band comes out. it takes six weeks, like to play— out. it takes six weeks, like to play with— out. it takes six weeks, like to play with it. like rehearsals of a play _ play with it. like rehearsals of a play so — play with it. like rehearsals of a play. so the rehearsals, she was so communicative to all of her dancers and the _ communicative to all of her dancers and the moves, where they would stand. _ and the moves, where they would stand, where they would block it out. stand, where they would block it out i_ stand, where they would block it out. i would stand, where they would block it out. iwould run stand, where they would block it out. i would run a camera, flying and commerce figuring out how to block _ and commerce figuring out how to block it _ and commerce figuring out how to block it out. when the song comes in, block it out. when the song comes in. when _ block it out. when the song comes in, when she's going to go down the ramps. _ in, when she's going to go down the ramps, when — in, when she's going to go down the ramps, when she isn't, when she turns _ ramps, when she isn't, when she turns and — ramps, when she isn't, when she turns. and she literally was amazing because _ turns. and she literally was amazing because she would almost do every move _ because she would almost do every move on— because she would almost do every move on the spot. you know what i mean's _ move on the spot. you know what i means she — move on the spot. you know what i mean's she would do, how can i say
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it, mean's she would do, how can i say it. it _ mean's she would do, how can i say it. it was _ mean's she would do, how can i say it. it was the — mean's she would do, how can i say it, it was the choreography in her head _ it, it was the choreography in her head she — it, it was the choreography in her head. shejust it, it was the choreography in her head. she just had it, it was the choreography in her head. shejust had her it, it was the choreography in her head. she just had her in her head, the moves — head. she just had her in her head, the moves in — head. she just had her in her head, the moves in her head, the design. i've never shot a human being that wasjust— i've never shot a human being that waslust so— i've never shot a human being that wasjust so unaware i've never shot a human being that was just so unaware of the i've never shot a human being that wasjust so unaware of the camera but so _ wasjust so unaware of the camera but so aware. wasjust so unaware of the camera but so aware-— but so aware. she knew she was doing- never— but so aware. she knew she was doing. never forget _ but so aware. she knew she was doing. never forget it. - but so aware. she knew she was doing. never forget it. i- but so aware. she knew she was doing. never forget it. i had - but so aware. she knew she was doing. never forget it. i had to . but so aware. she knew she was i doing. never forget it. i had to put it u- on doing. never forget it. i had to put it up on us — doing. never forget it. i had to put it up on us page. _ doing. never forget it. i had to put it up on us page, and _ doing. never forget it. i had to put it up on us page, and it— doing. never forget it. i had to put it up on us page, and it turned - doing. never forget it. i had to put| it up on us page, and it turned back in the _ it up on us page, and it turned back in the day— it up on us page, and it turned back in the day but it doesn't now. in a bil in the day but it doesn't now. in a big storm came in. she came around. i big storm came in. she came around. i would _ big storm came in. she came around. i would dance — big storm came in. she came around. i would dance with her, because she would _ i would dance with her, because she would come — i would dance with her, because she would come around and she didn't have _ would come around and she didn't have a _ would come around and she didn't have a ramp. so she had to dance by me. that's when i really got to know her. me. that's when i really got to know her i_ me. that's when i really got to know her ithink— me. that's when i really got to know her ithink it— me. that's when i really got to know her. i think it was three months in the tour — her. i think it was three months in the tour i— her. i think it was three months in the tour. i played tennis with the guitar player. james. how the tour. i played tennis with the guitar player. james.— guitar player. james. how inch rental has _ guitar player. james. how inch rental has she _ guitar player. james. how inch rental has she beenwith - guitar player. james. how inch - rental has she beenwith beyonce? , influential. ., ~' .,
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rental has she beenwith beyonce? , influential. ., ,, ., �*, , influential. you know it's funny. i haven't seen _ influential. you know it's funny. i haven't seen beyonce _ influential. you know it's funny. i haven't seen beyonce live. - influential. you know it's funny. i | haven't seen beyonce live. unless influential. you know it's funny. i i haven't seen beyonce live. unless i have _ haven't seen beyonce live. unless i have but _ haven't seen beyonce live. unless i have. but it's nothing like tina. in my world, — have. but it's nothing like tina. in my world, because i did spend 105 days with — my world, because i did spend 105 days with her. my world, because i did spend 105 days with her-— days with her. what is she like offstage? _ days with her. what is she like offstage? l _ days with her. what is she like offstage? i would _ days with her. what is she like offstage? i would say - days with her. what is she like offstage? i would say she's - days with her. what is she like - offstage? i would say she's probably one of the most _ offstage? i would say she's probably one of the most kindest _ offstage? i would say she's probably one of the most kindest human - offstage? i would say she's probably i one of the most kindest human beings in the _ one of the most kindest human beings in the world _ one of the most kindest human beings in the world. she was so respectful to everyone — in the world. she was so respectful to everyone who worked for her. we were _ to everyone who worked for her. we were treated well. great bonus at the end _ were treated well. great bonus at the end of— were treated well. great bonus at the end of the tour. she were treated well. great bonus at the end of the tour.— were treated well. great bonus at the end of the tour. she gave you a big bonus's — the end of the tour. she gave you a big bonus's yeah. _ the end of the tour. she gave you a big bonus's yeah. in _ the end of the tour. she gave you a big bonus's yeah. in cash, - the end of the tour. she gave you a big bonus's yeah. in cash, or- big bonus's yeah. in cash, or present? _ big bonus's yeah. in cash, or present? a _ big bonus's yeah. in cash, or present? a little _ big bonus's yeah. in cash, or present? a little of - big bonus's yeah. in cash, or present? a little of both, - big bonus's yeah. in cash, or- present? a little of both, actually. it funn . present? a little of both, actually. it funny- when _ present? a little of both, actually. it funny. when we _ present? a little of both, actually. it funny. when we tour _ present? a little of both, actually. it funny. when we tour on - present? a little of both, actually. it funny. when we tour on the - present? a little of both, actually. | it funny. when we tour on the bus, they call— it funny. when we tour on the bus, they call it — it funny. when we tour on the bus, they call it you know what. that's
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ok. i they call it you know what. that's 0k- i know _ they call it you know what. that's 0k- i know you — they call it you know what. that's ok. i know you have _ they call it you know what. that's ok. i know you have to _ they call it you know what. that's ok. i know you have to go - they call it you know what. that's l ok. i know you have to go through they call it you know what. that's i ok. i know you have to go through a lot tonight. she ok. i know you have to go through a lot toniaht. ,, ., lot tonight. she paid for everything- _ lot tonight. she paid for everything. so - lot tonight. she paid for everything. so we - lot tonight. she paid for everything. so we gave | lot tonight. she paid for— everything. so we gave everything we could to _ everything. so we gave everything we could to her _ everything. so we gave everything we could to her back in return. and i would _ could to her back in return. and i would say— could to her back in return. and i would say that she is the kindest. well, _ would say that she is the kindest. well, i_ would say that she is the kindest. well, i went to work for david bowie. — well, i went to work for david bowie, too. of all the performers i've bowie, too. of all the performers i've ever— bowie, too. of all the performers i've ever worked with, david bowie was the _ i've ever worked with, david bowie was the most kindest man, and tina was the most kindest man, and tina was the _ was the most kindest man, and tina was the most kindest man, and tina was the most kindest man, and tina was the most kindest woman. that was kind to _ was the most kindest woman. that was kind to the _ was the most kindest woman. that was kind to the crew, kind to every human — kind to the crew, kind to every human being around her. just amazing _ human being around her. just amazing. she was so spiritual. tonight, — amazing. she was so spiritual. tonight, we have been talking to people coming out. i'm sorry. are you ok? are you ok to continue? i can let you take a minute? i you ok? are you 0k to continue? i can let you take a minute?- can let you take a minute? i came out here just _ can let you take a minute? i came out here just to, _ can let you take a minute? i came out here just to, you _ can let you take a minute? i came out herejust to, you know. - can let you take a minute? i came out herejust to, you know. i - out here just to, you know. i was going _ out here just to, you know. i was going to — out here just to, you know. i was going to smoke a cigar. and i will, tonight _ going to smoke a cigar. and i will, tonight i�*m — going to smoke a cigar. and i will, toniaht. �* . going to smoke a cigar. and i will, toniaht. �* , ., ., _ tonight. i'm just going to say, tonight. i'm 'ust going to say, we been _ tonight. i'm just going to say, we've been speaking - tonight. i'm just going to say, we've been speaking to - tonight. i'm just going to say, | we've been speaking to people tonight. i'm just going to say, - we've been speaking to people who have come out at half—time, and so many people have said how the story of ike turner and what he did to her
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and how she recovered and overcame that, what kind of an inspiration is her whole life story? has that, what kind of an inspiration is her whole life story?— her whole life story? as the crew, one of the — her whole life story? as the crew, one of the first _ her whole life story? as the crew, one of the first things _ her whole life story? as the crew, one of the first things that - her whole life story? as the crew, one of the first things that were i one of the first things that were said to — one of the first things that were said to us — one of the first things that were said to us was don't bring up his name _ said to us was don't bring up his name and _ said to us was don't bring up his name. and we went, oh, ok. it was such— name. and we went, oh, ok. it was sucha— name. and we went, oh, ok. it was such a gift — name. and we went, oh, ok. it was such a gift. she is the biggest gift of my— such a gift. she is the biggest gift of my life — such a gift. she is the biggest gift of my life because she opened up the world to _ of my life because she opened up the world to me. in my dream, my hopes. i world to me. in my dream, my hopes. i never— world to me. in my dream, my hopes. i never thought i would be connected to tina _ i never thought i would be connected to tina i'm _ i never thought i would be connected to tina. i'm sorry. and i'm not connected _ to tina. i'm sorry. and i'm not connected to her right now. 0, chris. connected to her right now. 0, chris- m _ connected to her right now. (1) chris. i'm sorry. maybe connected to her right now. (ie chris. i'm sorry. maybe we connected to her right now. 0 chris. i'm sorry. maybe we should stop. listen, thank you for speaking to bbc and sharing your memories of her. i wasn't coming down here expecting to meet someone who knew her so well. i expecting to meet someone who knew her so well. �* . ., expecting to meet someone who knew her so well. �* _, ., her so well. i didn't come down here to expecting — her so well. i didn't come down here to expecting to _ her so well. i didn't come down here to expecting to hear _ her so well. i didn't come down here to expecting to hear this _ her so well. i didn't come down here to expecting to hear this news. -
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her so well. i didn't come down here to expecting to hear this news. we . to expecting to hear this news. we were to expecting to hear this news. - were expecting to get fans. thank you for sharing. you're really intimate knowledge— you for sharing. you're really intimate knowledge shall be in our hearts forever. _ intimate knowledge shall be in our hearts forever. chris, _ intimate knowledge shall be in our hearts forever. chris, thank - intimate knowledge shall be in our hearts forever. chris, thank you i intimate knowledge shall be in our| hearts forever. chris, thank you for speaking to — hearts forever. chris, thank you for speaking to the _ hearts forever. chris, thank you for speaking to the bbc. _ hearts forever. chris, thank you for speaking to the bbc. that's - hearts forever. chris, thank you for speaking to the bbc. that's chris i speaking to the bbc. that's chris rhodes, who worked with tina turner on more than a hundred dates on the private dancer tour in 1985.— private dancer tour in 1985. collin, thank ou private dancer tour in 1985. collin, thank you so _ private dancer tour in 1985. collin, thank you so much. _ private dancer tour in 1985. collin, thank you so much. and _ private dancer tour in 1985. collin, thank you so much. and our- private dancer tour in 1985. collin, | thank you so much. and our thanks private dancer tour in 1985. collin, - thank you so much. and our thanks to chris. really fascinating to hear from him. and those really intimate moments of him working with tina turner on the tour. thank you, colin. we will let you get back inside. if you'rejustjoining us, you will see there this news on the screen, breaking news that tina turner has died at the age of 83. if you are you familiar view of the context you will also know that we have a panel with us throughout the hour, looking at some of the days top stories. we will introduce you top stories. we will introduce you to them tonight, even though we have that breaking news. lets speak to our panel justine greening — a former transport, education and international development secretary in the uk government — and amanda renteria, the ceo of code for america —
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a non profit organisation working to improve government through the use of technology. good evening to you both. thank you for being with us. even though there is this breaking news tonight, the power of tina turner was that everyone had a connection. everyone had a story. everyone had a favourite track. she translated so so many decades. justine, let me start with you, because i know you are a fan. start with you, because i know you areafan. ~ , are a fan. absolutely. there was the soundtrack to _ are a fan. absolutely. there was the soundtrack to university _ are a fan. absolutely. there was the soundtrack to university growing - are a fan. absolutely. there was the soundtrack to university growing up| soundtrack to university growing up that was tina. i was one of those people who got to know tina turner's music in the 805. i didn't even know about the background to her life before then. i thought she was an amazing performer. and i've we have heard, tough, resilient, hugely compassionate. what a woman. what heard, tough, resilient, hugely compassionate. what a woman. what a woman indeed- — compassionate. what a woman. what a woman indeed. it _ compassionate. what a woman. what a woman indeed. it was _ compassionate. what a woman. what a woman indeed. it was a _ compassionate. what a woman. what a woman indeed. it was a privileged - woman indeed. it was a privileged for people to see her live. i wish i
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had. just throwing that story there, chris, who had worked with herfor so many years, and amanda, simply the best, or the past as it is known, was your favourite song. yes it was. known, was your favourite song. yes it was- and — known, was your favourite song. yes it was- and she _ known, was your favourite song. yes it was. and she is not. i actually grew— it was. and she is not. i actually grew up— it was. and she is not. i actually grew up knowing her back story. we always _ grew up knowing her back story. we always talked about three girls and my family— always talked about three girls and my family and we were cheerleaders, dancers, _ my family and we were cheerleaders, dancers, and — my family and we were cheerleaders, dancers, and athletes. and anytime we would _ dancers, and athletes. and anytime we would hear, my dad would say tina turner— we would hear, my dad would say tina turner was both. she was a cheerleader and an athlete. she was strong _ cheerleader and an athlete. she was strong, graceful, beautiful, and an artist— strong, graceful, beautiful, and an artist all— strong, graceful, beautiful, and an artist all in — strong, graceful, beautiful, and an artist all in one. and i grew up seeing— artist all in one. and i grew up seeing her— artist all in one. and i grew up seeing herasa artist all in one. and i grew up seeing heras a role artist all in one. and i grew up seeing her as a role model. you don't _ seeing her as a role model. you don't have — seeing her as a role model. you don't have to be confined to certain things— don't have to be confined to certain things of— don't have to be confined to certain things of our lives because we are women _ things of our lives because we are women we — things of our lives because we are women. we can be all things, do it with beauty— women. we can be all things, do it with beauty and grace. so when i think— with beauty and grace. so when i think about tina turner it is all that— think about tina turner it is all that energy she exudes to not only who she _ that energy she exudes to not only who she is — that energy she exudes to not only who she is but really showing what women _ who she is but really showing what women can — who she is but really showing what women can do in this country, and in the world. . women can do in this country, and in the world. , ,., . the world. there is so much we will discuss around _
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the world. there is so much we will discuss around the _ the world. there is so much we will discuss around the programme - discuss around the programme tonight. thank you so much for being with us. we will return to you. there are a whole lot of things i want to discuss with you on the panel tonight but for now, thank you. for now, let's bring you some of the attributes that have been flooding in for tina turner. civil rights leaders, martin luther king jr.. rights leaders, martin luther king jr., tweeted simply, good night queen. the musician bryan adams has tweeted, the world hasjust lost queen. the musician bryan adams has tweeted, the world has just lost a powerhouse woman. i will be forever grateful for the time we spent together on tour in the studio and his friends. thank you, he says, for being the inspiration to millions around the world, for speaking your truth and giving us the gift of your incredible voice. he adds his condolences to her husband and tina's family. the rolling stones front man mickjagger
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the uk charity, women's aid, which ends to work mastic abuse, tweeted. let's talk now to the entertaining journalist kevin hughes. kevin, thank you for being with us. how will you remember tina turner? i will remember her like many of your viewers, as simply an outstanding show person, performer, and artist. she was electrifying on stage. hervoice and artist. she was electrifying on stage. her voice demonstrating that power, that resilience, a life lead. she was truthful, she was honest, when it came to her art and
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performance she wasjust when it came to her art and performance she was just magical. it really is heart breaking news tonight. i think she will be reviewed and remembered as simply one of the greatest music and pop artists of all time.— artists of all time. much will be made of her — artists of all time. much will be made of her life _ artists of all time. much will be made of her life story. - artists of all time. much will be made of her life story. and - artists of all time. much will be | made of her life story. and that artists of all time. much will be i made of her life story. and that in itself is so fascinating, overcoming the odds in so many ways. but what is remarkable is her ability to reinvent herself for, it seems, every new decade. she did that astonishingly well. not many artists are able to do that, are they kevin? that's right. it's a testament to her that in her 405, tina turner managed to reinvent her career, all thanks to producers and record label support in the uk, and london in the early 19805. she worked with a production duo who went on to become heaven 17, to put out some incredible singles and sort of mid—805 that transformed the perception of tina turner. she completely reinventing herself as that solar star after enduring 18
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years of hell, of course, with ike turner. and then we weren't sure, and she wasn't sure where her direction would be, but in the 19805 she was the queen of reinvention. she of course landed with so many countless hits and memorable live performances that have become some of the greatest songs of all time. as we do at times like this, kevin, we've been looking at the fascinating trivia of someone's career. just looking here, and correct me if i am wrong, but tina turner only had two weeks to record that hugely successful private dancer album and that was because the record company hurt her do that cover eval greens let's stay together and set actually, you're pretty good, but you've only got two weeks to recover that album, but then went on to sell 10 million copies around the world. it then went on to sell 10 million copies around the world. it really is a remarkable _ copies around the world. it really is a remarkable story _ copies around the world. it really is a remarkable story and - copies around the world. it really is a remarkable story and it's i copies around the world. it really is a remarkable story and it's a i is a remarkable story and it's a story i was watching a few weeks ago myself, at tina, the musical in london. it's incredible that she was so committed to the craft. she spent
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hour after hour in the recording studio in london town and of course that resulted in that incredible ground—breaking album. and the hit singles that followed, leading to, of course, the next project in 89 were of course the album delivered the best, which for many fans will be the song they will attribute to tina tonight. of course, you look at her complete body of work. she's one of the greatest producers and writers, but it's the heart of tina turner story and her music, is her voice and her ability to convey our story and tell it like no other. she was truly special and truly unique. i wanted to ask you that, what is it about her music that made it so universally popular throughout the ages? so many different generations, people discovered it in their own time, in their own way. some may have come to the film before the music and vice versa. it was an incredible achievement, but what was it that brought all of those generations together? l it that brought all of those generations together? i think she
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obviously delivered _ generations together? i think she obviously delivered the _ generations together? i think she obviously delivered the unique i generations together? i think she i obviously delivered the unique magic spark. she was mesmerising on stage. i saw her live four times. she was electrifying to watch on stage. also, she was very clever at working with the right people at the right time, reinventing hersound, time, reinventing her sound, herself, time, reinventing hersound, herself, staying ahead of the curve when it came to music trends, especially from the late 705 through to the mid—905. whether that was working with bono over there that was getting up on stage performing several of the greatest ruck and roller like rod stewart and many more. of course, she was referred by a whole new generation of talent, from janet jackson, a whole new generation of talent, from janetjackson, rihanna, and of course beyonce, who famously paid tribute to the star performing proud mary had a special tribute concert in america about ten years ago. and beyonce back on stage on friday, i'm sure she like many artists will want to pay some sort of homage and tribute to tina, who many regard as the queen of rock and roll. absolutely. the queen indeed. kevin, really good to have it with us
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tonight on the programme. thank you, kevin hughes there. a little earlier i spoke to tony blackburn, of bbc radio. he is a presenter they are, a huge tina turnerfan. he radio. he is a presenter they are, a huge tina turner fan. he told me what he made of the news tonight of her death at the age of 83. tina turner, her death at the age of 83. tina turner. the _ her death at the age of 83. tina turner, the energy _ her death at the age of 83. t “is. turner, the energy she put into it, private dancer was one of my favourites. i remember seeing her at the 02 favourites. i remember seeing her at the o2 and the energy she put into her performance was just absolutely wonderful. ijust adored her. in the image, that big hair, the short skirts, and all the rest. she was just a terrific performer and i loved playing her music. she has given us several great songs that we can continue playing as well. what can continue playing as well. what was in about _ can continue playing as well. what was in about her— can continue playing as well. what was in about her music _ can continue playing as well. what was in about her music that - can continue playing as well. what was in about her music that managed to transcend obviously different generations, and lasted a cross many
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decades? what was it that made it so popular and so universally popular? she had this amazing energy. she wasn'tjaded in any way. she was always up—to—date, a terrific performer. i think that her image was amazing as well. she had a really interesting life. should a very stormy marriage with ike turner of course she had people who loved her so music, and people who love ruck music, because she managed to combine both which was quite unusual, really. so i think that's what it was, really. i think she was an interesting personality. she had wonderful charisma. and it came across on the stage. and her music wasjust second to across on the stage. and her music
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was just second to none. across on the stage. and her music wasjust second to none.— across on the stage. and her music wasjust second to none. tony, you have been — wasjust second to none. tony, you have been around _ wasjust second to none. tony, you have been around long _ wasjust second to none. tony, you have been around long enough i wasjust second to none. tony, you have been around long enough to l wasjust second to none. tony, you i have been around long enough to know that i will a lot of artists try to reinvent themselves, don't die and they're not always successful? she was the queen of reinvention and managed to do so, was the queen of reinvention and managed to do 50, particularly well, and then called one of the greatest comebacks in music history in the 19805. it was her ability to do that, to change with the times and do something different that capture relevant. l do something different that capture relevant. ~ . do something different that capture relevant. ,, ., , do something different that capture relevant. ,, . , ., , relevant. i think that is really important- — relevant. i think that is really important- l _ relevant. i think that is really important. i have _ relevant. i think that is really important. i have been - relevant. i think that is really. important. i have been around relevant. i think that is really i important. i have been around 60 years now. to reinvent yourself sometimes and do things it bit different and keep up—to—date, that's very important. she did that. you never, when you saw her on stage, she was always fresh. she had so much energy. her music was absolutely wonderful.— so much energy. her music was absolutely wonderful. tony blackburn s - eakin . absolutely wonderful. tony blackburn s-ueakin to absolutely wonderful. tony blackburn speaking to me _ absolutely wonderful. tony blackburn speaking to me a _ absolutely wonderful. tony blackburn speaking to me a little _ absolutely wonderful. tony blackburn speaking to me a little earlier. - absolutely wonderful. tony blackburn speaking to me a little earlier. and i speaking to me a little earlier. and of course the awards, the titles forwarded to tina turner are vast, inducted onto the hollywood walk of
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fame. twice been inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame, selling 100 million records, 12 grammy awards, three hall of fame wards, and a lifetime achievement award. you're watching the bbc news. hello. we've seen some spectacular sunrise and sunset pictures over the last 24 hours, like this one from warwickshire. now, a lot of the cloud you could see here is actually aeroplane contrails — in other words, the water that comes out of the back of aeroplane engines turns to ice crystals to make these clouds. now the contrails can last for many, many hours if there's a lot of moisture in the atmosphere seven miles above our head, the height that aeroplanes fly — that's exactly what's been going on. however, through today, we've seen those contrails blow towards france, and at the same time, we've had some drier air seven miles up in the atmosphere working across england and wales. in other words, those contrails are not going to be quite as widespread, nor as long—lived over the next couple of days. now, today, we've seen lots of warm weather.
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the temperatures quite widely across the midlands, south and east wales, southern england reached the low 205, and we've got more of the same to come, as well. now, overnight tonight, we'll keep clear skies, just a few patches of cloud drifting southwards across parts of england. the skies clearing in scotland to give some colder weather here, with temperatures dipping down into low single figures in the coldest areas as we head into the first part of thursday morning. but essentially, the weather won't change a whole lot over the next few days, thanks to this big area of high pressure. the winds continue to come around that from the atlantic, so temperatures aren't going to change a great deal either. thursday then, perhaps a little bit more in the way of cloud across central and eastern england, but still some spells of sunshine. and at the same time, there should be more in the way of sunshine to look forward to in scotland. wherever you are, our temperatures are likely to reach the high teens to low 205 pretty widely, and will likely peak at around 23 for southeast wales, the west midlands, and southwest england. how warm's 23? well, compared with warm spells we've seen over recent mays, 23 kind of puts us right at the bottom of the pile. more often than not,
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warm spells at this time of year bring those two pictures into the mid—to—high 205. now for friday, there's again little overall change in the big weather picture. a lot of dry weather, a lot of sunshine around. this time, probably less cloud for eastern england, a bit more cloud for scotland, where there could be an odd passing spot of rain in the northwest. but for the vast majority, it's dry and its warm in the may sunshine, with temperatures again high teens to low 205. and this fine, sunny, settled spell of weather is set to last throughout the bank holiday weekend and into the early part of the new week, as well. that's the latest, bye for now.
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hello, i'm ben thompson. you're watching the context on bbc news. # did you have a puppy... tributes pour in for the american—born singer, tina turner, who has died at the age of 83. hello and welcome to the programme. so the breaking news tonight is that the us—born singer songwriter, tina turner has died at the age of 83. she rose to prominence as the lead singer of the ike &
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tina turner revue before launching a successful career as a solo performer. in a statement, a representative says... well at the white house press briefing in washington this morning, a tribute to tina turner. a spokesperson said tina turner was a music icon, who had many stages in many amazing moments in her career. they added it was a massive loss to the communities that loved her and the music industry. saying her music will live on, and their hearts go out to her family and friends. well our arts correspondent david sillito took us through the legacy of tina turner. tina turner the queen of rock and roll has died peacefully today at the age of e3 after a long illness in her home near zurich switzerland. her manager of 30 years, roger davis said tina was a unique and
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remarkable force of nature with a strength and incredible energy and immense talent. the first day i met her in 1980 she believes in herself completely. when few others did at the time. it was a privilege and an honour to have been a close friend as well as her manager for more than 30 years. i will miss her deeply. and that reference to 1980, at a time when she thought it could have possibly been all over for her. she did not have a record deal. she had split from ike turner. an abusive marriage for so many years. she had had her success and her heads which many thought of her in america as essentially a vintage act. someone who's maybe going to go around the clubs but maybe never make a good record again and it was actually just the beginning. when you saw the tens of millions of albums she sold in the 805 and 905 when they took a risk with her and they heard let's
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stay together and said, hang on that's a real star and it all began of sales and her age of 405 and the biggest concert selling artist in her 605. it is an extraordinary story. but more than that the inspirational story of her life for many people, it is what she endured, how she overcame it, her honesty, her talking about it. inspiring many other people who felt that they have made the experience something of what she had experienced in a marriage such as it that she had. and the fact that by the end of it she found real happiness. and it is a story that is inspiring. there is no wonder there is a musical about her life on the west end at the moment. absolutely and as he said so
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many artist struggled to make it on their own after they have been part of a hugely successful group. not only did she make it, she launched what many critics called the greatest comeback of music history. it was as he said, that 1984 album. absolutely. and that sold more than 10 million copies. but there were then more and more. the hitsjust kept on coming. there was a james bond theme, the mad max movie and she was as compelling in her 605 on stage as she was in her 205. it was the energy. you knew immediately for the energy. you knew immediately for the first second that there was a person with incredible presence. it was one of the things that lead to jealousy from ike turner as well. the amount of attention she attracted on stage butjust watching some of the footage from the 19605
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and it is compelling. you cannot take your eyes off of her. there are many other performers who people have said, they have taken her moves. they have watched that and they have taken on board. there was they have taken on board. there was the kennedy centre honours in washington, dc when it was an evening in celebration of tina turner and the culmination of it, walks onto the stage, beyonce. she said there were two teen is in her life, her mother and tina turner and she does a performance of primary and watch beyonce and you go, well, yeah, you got that from one person. you've got that from tina turner. our arts and media correspondent there. we'll have more reaction on that breaking story in a moment, but let's get some news out of florida — where the governor, ron desantis, has filed paperwork confirming he will run for us president in 2024.
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he will formally announce his nomination injust over an hour's time, via twitter, alongside the social media site's boss elon musk. the 44—year—old is seen as the main rival to donald trump to be the republican candidate in next year's presidential election. mr trump is currently well ahead of other rivals for the nomination, but mr desantis has used his role in florida to show off his conservative credentials, including extending gun ownership and restricting abortion rights. joining me now is leslie vinjamuri, who's the director of the us and americas programme at chatham house which is a think tank focusing on international affairs. thank you for being with us on the programme. i have touched on it there, the idea that ron desantis is popular at home in his home state of florida but does that translate? does that extend beyond the borders of the state, across the country? i of the state, across the country? i think that is what everyone is
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waiting to see. some people see him as a potentially formidable candidate he is like donald trump and many of his views. but more focused, more serious, more attentive to details. and others simply think that this is a candidate who lacks the charisma to really take that message and garner that kind of popularity beyond the state of florida. but remember, in florida at a time when the republicans really did not do well, thatis republicans really did not do well, that is the us midterm elections last november. this is a governor who won his election by 19 percentage points and also one miami—dade by 11 percentage points, a county that has gone democrat, the hillary clinton wand with a very big margin in 2016.50 he has margin in 2016. so he has performed, he is trying to bill a target the same beast that donald trump has and right now the polls have donald
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trump significantly ahead. especially since that indictment and since his troubles with various legal struggles, since his troubles with various legalstruggles, but since his troubles with various legal struggles, but this is of course a next step as we see, ron desantis make that move to formally declare. it has been widely expected for a long time and a very unusual way of making that moment which is alongside elon musk not very long for now on twitter space. i alongside elon musk not very long for now on twitter space.- for now on twitter space. i want to ask ou for now on twitter space. i want to ask you about _ for now on twitter space. i want to ask you about that _ for now on twitter space. i want to ask you about that because - for now on twitter space. i want to ask you about that because that i for now on twitter space. i want to ask you about that because that is | ask you about that because that is fascinating and whether this is a way of, try saying, i will cut out the middleman and speak directly to my supporters. it is a captive market, easily shareable and also gives him access to the many millions of twitter followers of mr elon musk. what do you make of this? will other politicians be watching this launch on twitter and say hang on, this is something amy think about too. eff
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on, this is something amy think about too-— about too. of course they will. donald trump _ about too. of course they will. donald trump was _ about too. of course they will. donald trump was an - about too. of course they will. i donald trump was an influencer, he really brought politics squarely into twitter and he has been largely off of that platform since he lost power and so there is so me things here and now we have ron desantis coming back onto what was trump's platform. also changes in fox news with tucker carlson leaving and so ron desantis is cleverly from the point of view from what he is trying to achieve, moving away from a set of broadcast options that are slightly more complicated for his base. and moving it right into twitter, as you say, taking advantage of elon musk�*s followers. but for many people this is very complicated piece of course twitter has been a site for all sides of the aisle and this really makes it look
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like it is very much aligned with that republican base that has supported donald trump, that may or may not choose to support ron desantis but the maga right wing of the party. 5m? desantis but the maga right wing of the -a . ,, ., desantis but the maga right wing of the -a . ,, ._ , desantis but the maga right wing of the - . ,, ,., the party. stay with us and let me brin: in the party. stay with us and let me bring in the _ the party. stay with us and let me bring in the rest _ the party. stay with us and let me bring in the rest of _ the party. stay with us and let me bring in the rest of the _ the party. stay with us and let me bring in the rest of the panel. i lets bring in our panel justine greening — a former transport, education and international development secretary in the uk government — and amanda renteria, the ceo of code for america — a non profit organisation working to improve government through the use of technology. thank you both for being with us and thank you for your patience while we cover a lot of other news tonight. amanda, what do you make of what we have seen out of florida, particularly what ron desantis stands for because it seems like what we know a lot about what he does not like but do we know enough about what he does like. what a white house with him as president would look like? first white house with him as president would look like?— would look like? first i should say s-ueakin would look like? first i should say speaking on _ would look like? first i should say speaking on behalf _ would look like? first i should say speaking on behalf of _ would look like? first i should say speaking on behalf of a _
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would look like? first i should say speaking on behalf of a former- would look like? first i should say i speaking on behalf of a former staff campaigner is not as a ceo of a nonprofit in i mention it because i remember the day on the hillary clinton campaign will be announced and that is the truth is when you really start to get into the ring. and i almost get a sense that does is 2016 all over again and that you are seeing ron desantis come into his story with a fight on the front and. with disney, whether it is women's rights or gun rights, he is very much entering the sphere with exactly what you're talking about. with some big punches and utilising a platform in the same kind of way that i remember donald trump entered. shocking and beginning to see someone go directly to people on twitter. this time it is much more explicit in the way that ron desantis is doing it so it is a bit of a set up where he is punching first and he is using a platform where he can talk directly with people. and i think there is going to be the question that he's going to have to answer now that he is on
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the ring is that, what is your vision for america? not the ring is that, what is your vision foramerica? notjust the ring is that, what is your vision for america? notjust what don't you like. and that will be in the coming days and i'm sure his team has to start thinking about it but it is interesting that it is very similar to a start in 2016 to the person that he has to be in the primary. the person that he has to be in the rima ., . , ., the person that he has to be in the rima ., , ., the person that he has to be in the rima ., , i. ., ., primary. justine, you have done this, primary. justine, you have done this. getting — primary. justine, you have done this. getting the _ primary. justine, you have done this, getting the message i primary. justine, you have done this, getting the message out i primary. justine, you have done| this, getting the message out to people, you may have all the best ideas come all of the great policies but translating them and communicating them to the audience who needs to hear them is quite difficult. what you make of this twitter launch? l difficult. what you make of this twitter launch?— twitter launch? i think it is really interesting _ twitter launch? i think it is really interesting and _ twitter launch? i think it is really interesting and i _ twitter launch? i think it is really interesting and i think— twitter launch? i think it is really interesting and i think it - twitter launch? i think it is really interesting and i think it shows i twitter launch? i think it is really i interesting and i think it shows the a-e interesting and i think it shows the age that— interesting and i think it shows the age that we live in. the big question— age that we live in. the big question for ron desantis is can he really— question for ron desantis is can he really out _ question for ron desantis is can he really out trump trump. some have described _ really out trump trump. some have described him as trump without the charm _ described him as trump without the charm and _ described him as trump without the charm and nikki haley, says he is an echo of— charm and nikki haley, says he is an echo of trump rather than a big twist for— echo of trump rather than a big twist for the republican party or the american people. i think the biggest — the american people. i think the biggest issue he has got is to
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become — biggest issue he has got is to become a presidential candidate he will have _ become a presidential candidate he will have to out trump, trump he will have to out trump, trump he will have — will have to out trump, trump he will have to — will have to out trump, trump he will have to appeal to that maga win- will have to appeal to that maga wing of _ will have to appeal to that maga wing of the party but to be president he will need to be at the centre _ president he will need to be at the centre ground. will he be actually setting _ centre ground. will he be actually setting out a compelling vision that does not _ setting out a compelling vision that does notjust as setting out a compelling vision that does not just as you say, setting out a compelling vision that does notjust as you say, tell people — does notjust as you say, tell people what they hate and present on that but _ people what they hate and present on that but actually for a much broader base on— that but actually for a much broader base on america, of american voters really— base on america, of american voters really talk— base on america, of american voters really talk about solutions to the challenges they face in their lives. one thing — challenges they face in their lives. one thing that he's not shied away from is taking on big business. that massive row with disney in florida, in his home state. that related to the so—called don't say gay bill. that has caused a lot of problems on both sides but particularly for disney. what does it say about his willingness to take on big business and can you win the way as if you do not have big business on site? i think it is a very complicated, he is playing — think it is a very complicated, he is playing a — think it is a very complicated, he is playing a very— think it is a very complicated, he is playing a very complex - think it is a very complicated, he is playing a very complex game. | think it is a very complicated, he i is playing a very complex game. on the one _ is playing a very complex game. on the one hand — is playing a very complex game. on the one hand this— is playing a very complex game. on the one hand this is—
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is playing a very complex game. on the one hand this is slapping - is playing a very complex game. onj the one hand this is slapping disney for taking _ the one hand this is slapping disney for taking the — the one hand this is slapping disney for taking the wrong _ the one hand this is slapping disney for taking the wrong position, i the one hand this is slapping disney for taking the wrong position, in i for taking the wrong position, in his vehicle — for taking the wrong position, in his vehicle on _ for taking the wrong position, in his vehicle on the _ for taking the wrong position, in his vehicle on the culture - for taking the wrong position, in his vehicle on the culture wars. i for taking the wrong position, in i his vehicle on the culture wars. and that the _ his vehicle on the culture wars. and that the culture _ his vehicle on the culture wars. and that the culture wars _ his vehicle on the culture wars. and that the culture wars and _ his vehicle on the culture wars. and that the culture wars and especiallyj that the culture wars and especially as they— that the culture wars and especially as they are — that the culture wars and especially as they are manifest _ that the culture wars and especially as they are manifest in _ that the culture wars and especially as they are manifest in schools i that the culture wars and especially as they are manifest in schools as i as they are manifest in schools as something — as they are manifest in schools as something that _ as they are manifest in schools as something that really _ as they are manifest in schools as something that really divides i as they are manifest in schools as something that really divides thei something that really divides the american — something that really divides the american electorate. _ something that really divides the american electorate. so - something that really divides the american electorate. so he i something that really divides the american electorate. so he is- something that really divides the i american electorate. so he is making a play— american electorate. so he is making a play that— american electorate. so he is making a play that the — american electorate. so he is making a play that the right _ american electorate. so he is making a play that the right seek— american electorate. so he is making a play that the right seek schools i a play that the right seek schools protected — a play that the right seek schools protected from _ a play that the right seek schools protected from woke _ a play that the right seek schools protected from woke culture i a play that the right seek schools protected from woke culture so l a play that the right seek schoolsi protected from woke culture so he a play that the right seek schools . protected from woke culture so he is calculating _ protected from woke culture so he is calculating that — protected from woke culture so he is calculating that wins _ protected from woke culture so he is calculating that wins him _ protected from woke culture so he is calculating that wins him more - calculating that wins him more sunpert— calculating that wins him more sunport than _ calculating that wins him more support than potentially- calculating that wins him more - support than potentially alienating and in _ support than potentially alienating and in a _ support than potentially alienating and in a state _ support than potentially alienating and in a state that— support than potentially alienating and in a state that has— support than potentially alienating and in a state that has been- support than potentially alienating and in a state that has been very. and in a state that has been very friendly— and in a state that has been very friendly to— and in a state that has been very friendly to business _ and in a state that has been very friendly to business that - and in a state that has been very friendly to business that may- and in a state that has been very- friendly to business that may people io friendly to business that may people go to, _ friendly to business that may people go to, for— friendly to business that may people go to, for the — friendly to business that may people go to, for the tax— friendly to business that may people go to, for the tax position. - friendly to business that may people go to, for the tax position. so- friendly to business that may people go to, for the tax position. so i- go to, for the tax position. sol think— go to, for the tax position. sol think this comment _ go to, for the tax position. sol think this comment that - go to, for the tax position. sol think this comment that we - go to, for the tax position. so i. think this comment that we have go to, for the tax position. so i- think this comment that we have just heard _ think this comment that we have just heard that _ think this comment that we have just heard that if — think this comment that we have just heard that if he _ think this comment that we have just heard that if he were _ think this comment that we have just heard that if he were actually- think this comment that we have just heard that if he were actually to - heard that if he were actually to secure — heard that if he were actually to secure that _ heard that if he were actually to secure that nomination - heard that if he were actually to secure that nomination and - heard that if he were actually to secure that nomination and go i heard that if he were actually to i secure that nomination and go to a general— secure that nomination and go to a general election— secure that nomination and go to a general election he _ secure that nomination and go to a general election he is— secure that nomination and go to a general election he is going - secure that nomination and go to a general election he is going to- secure that nomination and go to al general election he is going to have to win _ general election he is going to have to win corporate _ general election he is going to have to win corporate america _ general election he is going to have to win corporate america and - general election he is going to have to win corporate america and many| to win corporate america and many people _ to win corporate america and many people beyond _ to win corporate america and many people beyond the _ to win corporate america and many people beyond the base. _ to win corporate america and many. people beyond the base. remember when donald — people beyond the base. remember when donald trump _ people beyond the base. remember when donald trump won _ people beyond the base. remember when donald trump won the - when donald trump won the presidential— when donald trump won the presidential race _ when donald trump won the presidential race it - when donald trump won the
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presidential race it was - when donald trump won the . presidential race it was largely when donald trump won the - presidential race it was largely not only the _ presidential race it was largely not only the base _ presidential race it was largely not only the base but _ presidential race it was largely not only the base but also _ presidential race it was largely not only the base but also because - presidential race it was largely not only the base but also because he| only the base but also because he promised — only the base but also because he promised tax _ only the base but also because he promised tax cuts _ only the base but also because he promised tax cuts and _ only the base but also because he. promised tax cuts and deregulation to nrany— promised tax cuts and deregulation to many moderate _ promised tax cuts and deregulation to many moderate republican - promised tax cuts and deregulation . to many moderate republican voters. and that _ to many moderate republican voters. and that was — to many moderate republican voters. and that was incredibly— to many moderate republican voters. and that was incredibly appealing. . and that was incredibly appealing. as completed _ and that was incredibly appealing. as completed as _ and that was incredibly appealing. as completed as of _ and that was incredibly appealing. as completed as of the _ and that was incredibly appealing. as completed as of the race - and that was incredibly appealing. as completed as of the race of- and that was incredibly appealing. i as completed as of the race of that was. as completed as of the race of that was i_ as completed as of the race of that was ithink— as completed as of the race of that was i think it— as completed as of the race of that was. i think it is— as completed as of the race of that was. i think it is important- as completed as of the race of that was. i think it is important to - was. i think it is important to note here _ was. i think it is important to note here as _ was. i think it is important to note here as well— was. i think it is important to note here as well is _ was. i think it is important to note here as well is that _ was. i think it is important to note here as well is that ron _ was. i think it is important to note here as well is that ron desantisi was. i think it is important to notel here as well is that ron desantis is 44 years— here as well is that ron desantis is 44 years old — here as well is that ron desantis is 44 years old. that _ here as well is that ron desantis is 44 years old. that puts _ here as well is that ron desantis is 44 years old. that puts him - here as well is that ron desantis is 44 years old. that puts him in - here as well is that ron desantis is 44 years old. that puts him in a . 44 years old. that puts him in a very— 44 years old. that puts him in a very different category - 44 years old. that puts him in a very different category from - 44 years old. that puts him in a - very different category from donald trump, _ very different category from donald trump, a _ very different category from donald trump, a different— very different category from donald trump, a different category- very different category from donald trump, a different category from i very different category from donald i trump, a different category from joe biden— trump, a different category from joe biden in— trump, a different category from joe biden in an _ trump, a different category from joe biden in an election _ trump, a different category from joe biden in an election book— trump, a different category from joe biden in an election book where - trump, a different category from joe biden in an election book where we i biden in an election book where we know— biden in an election book where we know ages — biden in an election book where we know ages of— biden in an election book where we know ages of the _ biden in an election book where we know ages of the debt _ biden in an election book where we know ages of the debt is _ biden in an election book where we know ages of the debt is timed - biden in an election book where we know ages of the debt is timed by i know ages of the debt is timed by a hu-e know ages of the debt is timed by a huge amount — know ages of the debt is timed by a huge amount-— know ages of the debt is timed by a hue amount. . , ., . i. huge amount. really good to have you with us we will — huge amount. really good to have you with us we will talk _ huge amount. really good to have you with us we will talk some _ huge amount. really good to have you with us we will talk some more - huge amount. really good to have you with us we will talk some more in - with us we will talk some more in just a moment. around the world and across the uk this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today there've been more details from south wales police about the events leading to the death of two boys in cardiff — but their account has raised fresh questions. security camera footage showed a police van following two teenagers on an electric bike, moments before the accident. kyrees sullivan, who was 16,
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and 15—year—old harvey evans were both killed. police say they had no vehicles on the road where the crash happened. the cost of living crisis in the uk could be starting to ease — albeit slowly. new figures show that inflation — the measure of how quickly prices are rising — has fallen to single figures for the first time since last august. it came in at 8.7 percent for the year to april. the duchess of edinburgh has said, she's 'deeply saddened' by the death of a woman, who was hit by a motorbike, which was part of her police escort. the family of 81—year—old helen haaland say, she suffered massive internal injuries in the collision in west london two weeks ago. more on the bbc website. you are life with bbc news. now it's time for the panel... you want to talk about the stories that you want to talk about with our
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two panelists tonight but it feels appropriate given that in is that we have seen that tina turner has died at the age of 83 to talk a little more about your memories and some of the stories and the music that have shaped so many lives and similar peoples memories. justine, let me start on thing you you say it shaped your university days and how will your university days and how will you remember the music of tina turner? i you remember the music of tina turner? ~ you remember the music of tina turner? ,, ., , you remember the music of tina turner? ~ ., , ., , turner? i think it was really the ener: turner? i think it was really the energy behind _ turner? i think it was really the energy behind it. _ turner? i think it was really the energy behind it. she _ turner? i think it was really the energy behind it. she was - turner? i think it was really the energy behind it. she was an i energy behind it. she was an incredible performer, but an incredible performer, but an incredible woman. and just the way that even as an older performer she just had this vitality to her. even just had this vitality to her. even just watching those videos, you can see how she would have absolutely dominated every single stage. and i just thought they were the anthems of the 80s and 90s. it was notjust the past it was all of the others that people have mentioned, what's
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love got to do with it. all of them once i remembered with seeing lots of friends and great times. but she was genuinely a real mower model —— role model and a powerfulforce was genuinely a real mower model —— role model and a powerful force for women to see this incredible person doing such brilliant songs butjust a fantastic woman. and clearly brilliant as we heard earlier as the man who worked with her, a genuinely decent person to work with and work for. . , , ., , for. really interesting and it is times like this _ for. really interesting and it is times like this that _ for. really interesting and it is times like this that we - for. really interesting and it is times like this that we learn i for. really interesting and it is| times like this that we learn all for. really interesting and it is i times like this that we learn all of these unusual facts. times like this that we learn all of these unusualfacts. i did not know that that song, the best making it famous and it was her personal story that made people warm to her. that struggle and her earlier years in that reinvention in the later, 80s and 90s and achieving success after the age of 40. shock quarter. that’s
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the age of 40. shock quarter. that's riuht. you the age of 40. shock quarter. that's right- you can _ the age of 40. shock quarter. that's right. you can always _ the age of 40. shock quarter. that's right. you can always do _ the age of 40. shock quarter. that's right. you can always do it _ the age of 40. shock quarter. that's right. you can always do it no - right. you can always do it no matter— right. you can always do it no matter what the age. but she had an authenticity from the start of her career. _ authenticity from the start of her career, on who she was and telling her own— career, on who she was and telling her own story and personal story even _ her own story and personal story even though it was hard and the courage — even though it was hard and the courage she showed in all prior performances i think you got a sense that she _ performances i think you got a sense that she was 100% there. i know when i that she was 100% there. i know when i look— that she was 100% there. i know when i look at _ that she was 100% there. i know when i look at her— that she was 100% there. i know when i look at her that is the embodiment of taking every single minute and living _ of taking every single minute and living it _ of taking every single minute and living it with full passion. and you can see _ living it with full passion. and you can see that is the wish to perform. she was— can see that is the wish to perform. she was everything that she was inch she displayed it night after night and hearing that, even behind the scenes— and hearing that, even behind the scenes she — and hearing that, even behind the scenes she was working hard everything second of the date does not surprise me topics i feel like we all— not surprise me topics i feel like we all got — not surprise me topics i feel like we all got to see that when we saw her on stage and just the way she prevented herself and her life. —— presented — prevented herself and her life. -- presented-— prevented herself and her life. -- resented. ., ,, ., , presented. thank you both for being with us tonight _ presented. thank you both for being with us tonight and _ presented. thank you both for being with us tonight and what _ presented. thank you both for being with us tonight and what better- presented. thank you both for being with us tonight and what better way| with us tonight and what better way than to and the park with some of the psychotic moments.
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# when you were a young boy # did you have a puppy # that always followed you around... # they call it nutbush, little old town # 0h, nutbush # nutbush city limits # big wheels keep on turning # proud mary, keep on burning. # rolling, rolling, rolling on the river. # let's stay together. # let's stay together. # what's love got to do with it # what's love got to do with it # we don't need another hero.
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hello and welcome to the bbc sport centre, i'm paul scott. we start with a cracking game at the amex as premier league champions manchester city travelled to brighton. both sides were in bouyant mood after the seagulls secured european football last time out. but it was city who opened the scoring through phil foden. the home side had two goals disallowed in the first half, but a wonderful strike from julio ensico made it 1—1 at the break. city thought they'd won it through erling haaland but it was ruled out by the var.
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1-1, the 1—1, the final score. a busy night in the scottish premiership, with 24 goals across six matches, hearts salvaged a draw against rangers with a last—minute goal at ibrox, garang kuol taking advantage of several deflections to poke the ball home and earn a crucial point. hearts sit fourth and will have the opportunity to seal europa conference league football next season with a win against hibernian on saturday. elsewhere, aberdeen secure third spot with 3—0 win over st mirren dundee united are on the brink of relegation after 3—0 defeat to kilmarnock and the already crowned champions celtic champions celtic lost 4—2 to hibs. la liga presidentjavier tebas issued an apology to viniciuer ahead of real madrid's clash with rayo vallecano this evening. it follows his comments on social media after the racial abuse the brazilian suffered
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at valencia on sunday. although his red card was rescinded, an injury kept vinicius out of the match tonight. supporters and team—mates showed their support for the forward prior to kick off — with the brazilian joining them on the pitch before taking a seat next to madrid president florentino perez. from there, he witnessed his compatriot rodrygo seal a 2—1 win for carlo ancelotti's side. england manager gareth southgate has handed crystal palace's eberichi eze his first international call—up, as he named his squad ahead of next month's euro qualifers against malta and north macedonia. southgate was unable to call upon brentford's ivan toney who's been issued an eight—month ban from football for breaching football association betting rules. the striker isn't allowed to train
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with his club until mid—september, four months before the playing ban expires. southgate says the door is open to a possible re—call. what bothers me is we got to look after people and he is injured at the moment, what's he do about getting fit and i don't think that's how we should work. i don't think that's how the best rehabilitation programmes would work. but he knows that we picked him because we felt until there was a church, he should be allowed to play. and when he comes back, if he plays well, then we will pick him. we're in to the final stages of the giro d'italia — with hopes still high of a british winner. with four stages to go geraint thomas has retained the leader's pinkjersey after finishing in the peloton today. but, the headlines came at the final sprint, as home favourite alberto dainese
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came out on top in the tighest of finishes. michael redford reports. this year's giro d'italia has been taunted by the weather and its withdrawals. entering its third and final week... but the finish line is now in sight. every stage matters that little bit more, especially for two british writers, geraint thomas has a lead to protect, the pinkjersey to keep hold of. for mark cavendish, a chance of yet another sprint victory. that opportunity would take a while to arrive. for long periods, this was a stage that felt flat, almost futile until the final moment. as the kilometres ticked down, the speed ramped and up. but not for cavendish, he was of the pace. milan definitely wasn't. charging through the field, he splinted for the line —— sprinted for the line. so close! the slowest of stages had suddenly got the most frantic of finishes. it was alberto dainese who edged it just. much more comfortable for thomas who finished
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comfortably in the peloton. he finishes that keeps the overall lead with four stages to go. michael redford, bbc news. chrisjordan's mumbai indians are one game away from the indian premier league final after they thrashed the lucknow super giants by 81 runs in the eliminator. jordan took one wicket as the super giants collapsed to 101 in their chase after mumbai set a target of 183. they'll now play gujarat titans for a place in the final against chennai super kings. and that's all the sport for now.
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# and do i love you, my oh my...# she rose to fame in the 1960s alongside her then husband ike turner — who turned controlling and abusive. # you're simply the best # better than all the rest...# her survival and rise to the status of global superstar made her an icon of resilience as well as raw talent. tonight, the white house said that tina turner was a massive loss to the music industry and to the communities that loved her. also on the programme...
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